May 16, 2008, 3:40 a.m. CST
by Derek Wildstarr
I'm gonna see it, but after the first one im not expecting much.
May 16, 2008, 3:43 a.m. CST
by Derek Wildstarr
Kicks ass. What up Wilson!
May 16, 2008, 3:47 a.m. CST
by Derek Wildstarr
No posts allowed unless it has to do with Road Warrior and how perfect of a film that is.
May 16, 2008, 3:48 a.m. CST
by Derek Wildstarr
Im on some 28 days later shit here. Noone is posting.
May 16, 2008, 3:49 a.m. CST
by Derek Wildstarr
Oh yeah, the narnia sequel. because the buzz is huge on this movie.
May 16, 2008, 3:50 a.m. CST
KIDDING! IJATKOTCS is gonna ROCK at least as much as every INDY film before it. but seriously, Quint is right, go see SPEED RACER! if you GET the movie, you'll love it!
May 16, 2008, 3:51 a.m. CST
by Derek Wildstarr
and i havent even said the word yet. you know what word i mean. i wont say it.
May 16, 2008, 3:51 a.m. CST
May 16, 2008, 3:53 a.m. CST
by Derek Wildstarr
May 16, 2008, 3:54 a.m. CST
btw, ROAD WARRIOR is pretty perfect :-)
May 16, 2008, 3:55 a.m. CST
'cause everyone in america seems to be sleeping...
May 16, 2008, 3:58 a.m. CST
May 16, 2008, 3:59 a.m. CST
by Derek Wildstarr
west hollywood is in the US but i guess i'm a night owl. thanks for keeping me company and keeping the thread alive.
May 16, 2008, 4:03 a.m. CST
you're welcome :-)
May 16, 2008, 4:11 a.m. CST
I loved the narnia stories since I was a kid, and had no idea of its blatant Christian allegories. Then I loved the 70s cartoon of Wardrobe, even the dodgy effects BBC production. But for Aslan's sake, why dont they make The Magicians nephew? Its my absolute favourite. Hopefully Prince Caspian will be a success because I want this series go all the way to the Last battle (forget horse and his Boy). Unlike Dark Material, which the idiots wrecked by stearing clear of anything remotely edgy, Wardrobe stayed faithful, expanded upon and improved on the books.
May 16, 2008, 4:17 a.m. CST
Derek, skynetbauxi, I thought you were in Narnian time too. Guess I was wrong. Hey whats that lamp post doing over there...
May 16, 2008, 4:19 a.m. CST
by barnaby jones
The movie just left me cold though. Caspian will just be on my Lovefilm list.
May 16, 2008, 4:24 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
redundant gibberish. The word your looking for is "train". The Tube/ the Underground is the generic term for the whole network. I know cos I have to get the filthy overpriced rat-infested victorian tardy piece of shit.
May 16, 2008, 4:27 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
Wtf? Hollywood once again maligns the noble bear. Disgraceful. <P>And no love for the Mighty Warwick? Truly a giant among little people.
May 16, 2008, 4:38 a.m. CST
Is that you order Prince Caspian on its initial release, you wont get it until 6 months later. Order a Chaplin film, you'll get that next day. Still it is admittedly a really good library to catch up on films you wouldnt care to buy or see in the cinema and end up discovering some fantastic gems.
May 16, 2008, 4:41 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
well, 2 things is that they keep sending me stuff I did not ask for, and they don't have Army of Darkness.
May 16, 2008, 4:42 a.m. CST
You'd think there would be a few night shift folk about.
May 16, 2008, 4:50 a.m. CST
I definitely like the extended cut of the first film a whole lot better than the theatrical. Just that little bit more violence makes a huge difference. Wonder if there will be an EE of this one. And Road Warrior was pretty good, but I actually like the first Mad Max film better.
May 16, 2008, 5:03 a.m. CST
are the non-US posters.... like us.
May 16, 2008, 5:18 a.m. CST
by Boba Fat
They could do without the criticism and a little more support. Somewhere an ambitious but physically challenged bear is weeping into his picnic basket.
May 16, 2008, 5:22 a.m. CST
by Motoko Kusanagi
That being said, Narnia sucked, too - but on another level. So, I hope this uninspired kiddie bore fest will bomb at the BO.
May 16, 2008, 5:25 a.m. CST
I enjoyed it much more than the first one, there seemed to be a stronger emphasis on humor and action to this story. The bear that Quint mentions in his review got this incredible roar of laughter from the audience tonight and the few times he popped up in the background throughout the rest of the film were met with the same reaction. He's like an animal version of the retarded Matt Damon puppet from TEAM AMERICA. My favorite new character in the film is most definitely the sword fighting mouse, who actually kills a ton of people and gets a few good laughs in before the end.
May 16, 2008, 5:41 a.m. CST
If the bear is as unintentially funny as Psyclops and Quint make out to be, the film makers would be radical to start a "Retarded" Bear merchandise starting with a talking cuddly, keyring, and a cartoon spin-off series!
May 16, 2008, 6:16 a.m. CST
See it at the Imax. Fuck the haters.
May 16, 2008, 6:59 a.m. CST
by just pillow talk
Bears need to unite and rectify this erroneous perception that bears are cuddly, retarded, lovable, etc. There should have been limb tearing and face maulings! <p>Long live the mighty Bear!
May 16, 2008, 7:04 a.m. CST
by Bouncy X
with his ongoing hatred for the bear on his show, i wonder if he'll have a segment about this apparently retarded bear.
May 16, 2008, 7:24 a.m. CST
Go Narnia! Go Dark Materials! More movies need to be made where talking animals battle eachother and stuff.
May 16, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST
just for the talking bear. I'm convinced. If it's anything resembling 'Bear-y' from South Park's 'Woodland Critter Christmas' then fuck, they have my twelve dollars. Well, I guess I'm not expecting a blood orgy.......unless..
May 16, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST
he's just stupid and childish. "He sucks his paws." "I do not!" "WHY, YOU'RE DOING IT THIS VERY INSTANT!!!" The bear whipped its paw out of his mouth and pretended it hadn't heard.
May 16, 2008, 7:47 a.m. CST
I can't wait to see this movie. i hope it meets my expectations. oh, there's this funny new blog on blogspot. it's from this tv producer who's fed up with the entertainment biz. it's called: thebitterproducer. check it!
May 16, 2008, 8:18 a.m. CST
I want in.
May 16, 2008, 8:19 a.m. CST
they have to.
May 16, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST
one year later, it's tore up like it's been 1000 years!
May 16, 2008, 9:11 a.m. CST
Quick and to the point (!)
May 16, 2008, 9:17 a.m. CST
by Nico Toscani
Seriously, I want to see a violent, hardcore fantasy film without stupid "fairy tale" elements. I'm talking stuff like Conan The Barbarian and Excalibur. Fantasy done right with hardcore sword and sorcery is awesome. To me LOTR is for women and Narnia is for kids.
May 16, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST
Lotr is for women but you excalibur is ok? what the fuck? To me you are retarded.
May 16, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST
I think has one of the greatest pay off in movie history. Sitting through the movie I was like BLAH BLAH (Never Ending Story, Never Ending Story, LOTR, man I could've saw Kong again). Then finally the final battle happens. And you know your entire lives you've been waiting to see animals fight like humans, and it was awesome. Like when the cheetah and leapord (i think) lead the pack and clash. You know that you've been wanting to see something like that since you were a kid. It was awesome. The youngest girl, was not though, not by a long shot. Man I wouldn't have minded if Aslan ate her.
May 16, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST
Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe is based on C.S. Lewis' childrens book, so you're not going to have some dark, macabre bloodfest. From what I've seen, the film mirrors the book pretty closesly. So, I don't know what's not to like about it. Is it the shabby CGI? Bad acting? I don't know. It's a movie for younger audiences, and it delivered the goods. If you don't like it, blame C.S. Lewis.
May 16, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST
About as exciting as watching a fish sleeping.
May 16, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST
by Yotz Von Frelnik
I was getting a little despondent hearing that Indy was looking lame and a review that said Caspian was "boring" and a couple other movie early reviews that were seriously throwing water on my super-exciting Summer movie season. I'm relieved to know you gave it a fair blessing. Whew! I'm upbeat a little more again.
May 16, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST
Washington Post, New York Times, EW, People, USA today, MSN, LA times, RT.com has it at 70% fresh right now.<p>That doesn't mean everything, but this review by Quint (who's not even a fan of the first film or the series) and the other positive review on here by Capone are really exciting me, as a fan of the series who enjoyed the last one with the whole fam.<p>This will do well, I predict: 60-70 mil opening weekend.
May 16, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST
Movie and slap some religious BS on it, so I can get a bunch of money. I am not bad mouthing Narnia, but this whole surgence of religious people, who probably don't really watch movies all come out of the woodwork for shit like this. Like this buddy of mine who was about to get underway, I asked him if he wanted to see anything before he went underway. And he said he wanted to see Expalled? And he hadn't seen Ironman or Speed Racer. And i was like???? Are you reliegious, and he said yes. I was like, your lame. Yeah blah blah different opions and I am douche for being made at him. But come on? REALLY? Hey I am gonna be out to sea for a couple of months, I REALLY want to see some shitty propaganda documentary over Ironman or Speed Racer. And I am 22 years old? Thats just fucked up. I don't care if your religious or not, my boss is and he even saw Ironman, and he never goes to the theaters.
May 16, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST
And I actually like Narnia. The reason, aside from the kickass fantasy battles, is that I think Narnia actually undermines the Christian argument rather than bolstering it. The Lion, the Witch, and The Wardrobe dilute the Christ story down to the "old magic" and standard fantasy ideals, and underline the fact that the Christ story is just another god-king resurrection myth, as is found in various other religions and cultures. I see absolutely nothing about it that can't be found in ANY culture's mythological stories. Hell, I see WAY more Roman, Greek, Norse, Sumerian, and ancient Egyptian allegory than I do Christian allegory when it comes to Narnia. Lewis ripped off older religions a lot more than he was inspired by Christianity. <p> I think that's the joke of it. Christians watch/read it because they think it's all about their faith, and in fact it's standard fantasy with the same influences that Tolkien drew from. Maybe there's a bit of L. Frank Baum's influence in Narnia (every animal talks) and even some Oz-isms can be found. <p> I mean, so what if there's a "king" who sacrifices himself to save his followers, only to be resurrected later? That theme is common in myths that existed LONG before Christianity stole it from them. They weren't the first to have a demigod rise from death after a sin-absolving sacrifice. <p> SO in my opinion, supporting Narnia actually points out that Christianity is just another farie tale, just another myth.
May 16, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST
Fairy, Faery, etc. It's still not any more Christian than Greek mythology.
May 16, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST
From Little Britain fame. The Bulgy Bear character is a fan-favorite from the books and Walliams' one line reading is pitch perfect.
May 16, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST
Am I supposed to take you seriously? When you write like a 5th grader? Honestly, disregarding the religion aspect, your rant was almost incomprehensible.
May 16, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST
...is a crap movie. Stop pretending that this turd is any good.
May 16, 2008, 12:55 p.m. CST
The best thing he's done so far has been his bit in 'Ocean's 13', and he was just strutting about doing his 'hip and groovy' voice in a goatee. Getting into computer mainframes using 'the back door': password 'Jeff-Jeffedy-Jeff'. He's awful.
May 16, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST
Yeah I know my shit comes off bad. I always think it sounds good then I go back and re-read it and I realize all the typos and misspellings and bad grammar. But bad grammar aside (its TB not English Lit) the main problem is that I am at work, and have to rant without getting caught. So I can't review my post to make sure it makes sense. So you don't have to take me seriously, but AICN should not be a place to grade other people ability to write. I am not going to type something on word, edit it then copy and past it back here. Sometimes I'll do it real quick but usually I don't. <P> I mean what do you expect of me? My mom edited all my papers all the way through college. She's a fucking school teacher. When ever she didn't edit my work the remarks were always. Well you had a lot of great ideas but your grammar was terrible.
May 16, 2008, 1:04 p.m. CST
Is in this. Sold. When is their HBO show going to start?
May 16, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST
Lewis loved myth, and the story he tells of a key moment of conversion came from a deep discussion with his friend Tolkien, and he presented the very same argument you are giving against Christianity to Professor Tolkien, that Christianity is just another myth, pointing out the fact that it came much later than myth. What Tolkien got him to see is the Truth that myths represent: the Truth lies in the reflection of the deepest and truest human desire, but without any direction or benefit of direct revelation. The Gospels, therefore, look similar to such myths, and contain many elements because it is the true fulfillment of those past myths, the true fulfillment of the true desires reflected in myth. Christianity, Tolkien points out to Lewis, is the one true myth, the fairy tale that has come true, a point which both make in much of their writings. A key element in most myth, a truth reflected is a desire for redemption from man's Fall. Man has always sensed some sort of fall from grace, that is why he always cries out for justice. The elements of our state of grace in Christianity is a paradise where man, in the image of God, is the ruler and is at peace with the world around him, even with the nature that existed, the animals, the creatures. Lewis was convinced of the logic that such mythological creatures could have existed in the paradise that existed before man's fall, hence the emphasis on being 'sons of Adam and daughters of Eve'. Lewis also points out in much of his apologetic writing how Christianity is much different from other myths in the figure of Christ, as both the redeemer, the hero, and the Creator Himself; the paradox of the Incarnation, God become man. That is where Christiantiy clearly distinguishes itself form other myths and religions. So, you're way off Zerocorpse about the message, but you're right that many can enjoy Narnia on the same level any human is moved by authentic mythology: a reflection of objective human desire. The tragedy for our modern times is that we have the benefit of the truth already being revealed to us, but we refuse to see it. Actually, one of the lessons in the movie and the reasons Peter and Susan couldn't see Aslan. Lucy answers with a question: "were you looking for Him?". The Christian theme: those who seek shall find. One pont that Quint gets exactly right: the witch scene is downright scary, a couple of kids I noticed bolted out of the theater. This film is much darker.
May 16, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST
Have to go see this now.
May 16, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST
by Hive Mind
That's all I need to know to make my ticket buying decision...
May 16, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST
... for me Quint, that says that Caspian is very good and worth my time.<br><br>Because Speed Races was a total and utter piece of shit.<br><br>You owe me $10.00 you piece of shark bait, because the only reason I went to go see that movie was because of your review. Like I'd trust Harry's review, I mean, he had Emil's cum driping off his chin he blew that movie so hard like a good whore.<br><br>Let's just say that the members of AintItCool I trust now numbers one.
May 16, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST
If the second half of this is as good as the first half of the first then i'll chop em in half, stick em together and make a good/confusing mishmash!<P>WHAt the pleb is a Reepicheeper?
May 16, 2008, 3:50 p.m. CST
when's the last time a film has been #1 three weeks in a row? Phantom Menace?
May 16, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST
The first one was pretty much as faithful a filmed adaptation as one could possibly expect. Caspian is pretty well made as too and doesn't pander at all - and it is better than the first for all the reasons Quint mentioned. I think people could be a bit more grateful that the source material is being shown respect. As for Adamson I've grown to appreciate his understated style - it suits the material well and frankly Narnia is beautiful in this movie. People like to complain too much. This stuff could be filled with shots to character's groins and "oops I stepped in poop" moments that studios most often seem to think what films of this type need. These aren't cinematic milestones but they are quality films - they are doing an excellent job with these so far.
May 16, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST
What? Are you kidding? I mean, sure, women like them to, but [i]made[/i] for them?
May 16, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST
sorry..."too" not "to".
May 16, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST
the tropic thunder trailer. Quint just made this movie a must see for me!
May 17, 2008, 12:12 a.m. CST
no fanboy hype. No nostalgic Indiana Jones-like hype. But they deeply touch the audience, and the depth that they do is almost inexplicable. Adamson has succeeded in making two heart-wrenching films, especially the endings, and they seem to come out of nowhere. He doesn't make the final scenes overdramatic, or sappy with constant flowing tears,as perhaps PJ did when Frodo sailed away, yet when the Pevensees leave Narnia, it is heartwrenching. It tugs at the desire of the heart. The moron above who said that this is not real fantasy, that Narnia is for kids and LOTR for women is actually right about this not being 'real fantasy', its much deeper than fantasy, it is myth, and the only way a mythical story can be told in a time when no one not only believes them, but dismisses any possibility of them holding any truth at all. But myth accomplishes something greater than the modern fantasy of today. It touches on truth and the deepest, authentic human desires. There is a reason the good magic in the Narnia films is called Deep Magic. It is magic used with the proper Authority. In the film Caspian is tempted to use the other kind of magic in a very scary scene involving the White Witch. That is why the Potter films are so shallow and walk a fine line because the characters in Potter essentially use the type of magic the white Witch tempts Caspian to use. An unnatural magic that seeks to manipulate nature rather than nature being the willing servant of the proper Authority, the One who created nature. That is why both Lewis and Tolkien point out in their writings the very close link between Black magic and modern technology. They seek to manipulate Nature with no respect for its Creator. To use the dark magic is to continue the rebellion of the Original sin, to rebel against God, and fool ourselves that we don't need Him, when what he offers is a rightful dominion and power, but it requires our growth and understanding. In Caspian, Adamson is able to touch on all these themes while creating an overall entertaining film with some genuinely moving moments. I thought the Pevensee children were great again, never understood the criticism of their acting, and the portrayal of the Narnians was also exceptional, and great casting. Caspian himself was adequate, and had some good moments, but what could have been possibly the fault of the script, he didn't really stand out. But the drama between the characters work, and Adamson truly does bring the book to life.
May 17, 2008, 12:38 a.m. CST
I love the fact that Susan unmercifully rejects Harry Potter in this film when he tries to hit on her. She also kicks ass in this film, literally, being in some of the better action scenes. I love Adamson's sense of humor, though , sticking that Harry Potter character in there at the beginning, that was hilarious, along with the retarded bear, yes that was laugh out loud funny.
May 17, 2008, 1:45 a.m. CST
Very rousing with better integration of the special effects and a wittier script. The introduction of Reepicheep was awesome as were the Walking Trees (which were done RIGHT unlike Peter Jacksons stupid walking stick men). Even the "additional" castle raid was more than just a superfluous action sequence--it contributed directly to Peter's character arc. The tone was extremely faithful to the original story and the ending was almost verbatim what happens at the end of the novel.
May 17, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST
...and I'll see them as an adult. I don't know what to expect as they are all produced, but the Chronicles were my generation's "Harry Potter" (and much better written, imo). I don't really care if they are "kiddie" movies, for its about time they were given the attention that they deserve (vs low-budget public TV reproductions). I enjoyed the first one. That's all that matters to me, tbh. I'll be watching "Caspian" tomorrow (or is it today? Hell... IDK. I blame the vodka.
May 17, 2008, 2:54 a.m. CST
Actually.. not my generation, for it was written 30 years before I was born. But hell, its still the biggest epic that I can recall atm that I read as a child. Don't think I could have understood LOTR at that age. ^^
May 17, 2008, 3:11 a.m. CST
by Motoko Kusanagi
May 17, 2008, 3:54 a.m. CST
Does the bear get a medal for showing up?
May 17, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST
You sound brainwashed.
May 17, 2008, 10:04 p.m. CST
...and I liked the first Narnia instalment. I have nothing AGAINST religion either so I don't get my panties in a bunch when a movie has some Christian sub text in it. Lots of intolerant TBer's (ZERO CORPSE etc) like to point out similarities between other faiths, legends, myths etc...and think that disproves something. Read some Socrates and Plato mororns...these are common, timeless universal themes...THAT IS WHY THEY POP UP ALL THROUGHOUT HISTORY,STORIES etc. Just because you think TV evangelists and loathesome pedophile priests are the sum total of what spirituality is shows me you are a very shallow thinker.
May 18, 2008, midnight CST
This one was better then the first in my opinion. Darker, the action was better, and it clipped along at a nice pace. I am not a very picky movie fan. I like my popcorn and some entertainment. The fact that this movie is based off of Christian beliefs doesn't mean anything to me. It isn't going to make people Christian by seeing it, just as "The Golden Compass" wasn't go to stop people from following their respective faith. Thinking that a movie is going to have that impact is silly. For those looking for another entertaining film of the summer and likes fantasy, give it a shot.
May 18, 2008, 12:16 a.m. CST
My wife made me see the first one and this one. I doubt I would have seen either otherwise, but I found the first one to be passible, I liked this one quite a bit more. Retarded Bear was a kick ass moment, and Dink did indeed bring "it". I will probably see the next one as much for me as for my wife who would otherwise force me to see it.
May 18, 2008, 2:34 a.m. CST
Very interesting interpretation there, at least from a Christian perspective. Though I definitely have a problem with calling the Potter films 'shallow' because they don't conform to that Christian worldview (they may be shallow for other reasons, but that's a different discussion). In many ways, the Potter films are scarier (or happen in a scarier world) because you don't have an Aslan, an Authority, to save the day and judge you for your actions. It's up to you to figure out the reasons you use magic: to control or protect. You may have your Dumbledores or Voldemorts, but ultimately, the decision is up to you as are the consequences. And those aren't always clearly laid out. I think you're underestimating the moral dilemmas there. You're right in that the Narnia films/books are more about myth, where things happen on a grander scale and emotions are more broad. <p>But also, I think that most people who are complaining about the 'flat' performances from the kids are missing the mark. I think the script and the kids (at least Peter and Susan) did an excellent job of portraying the sadness, frustration and (with Peter) even desperation of balancing Narnia and the 'real world' without hitting us over the head with it. Once you've been King of Narnia, it's pretty tough to deal with the mundanities of petty bullying. His desperation to lead the battle again directly comes out of his desire to prove his adulthood. Susan displays a great sense of isolation, and her sadness of knowing that even when she gets back Narnia, it will only be temporary. This of course comes back at the end. I remembered the book simply saying that Peter and Susan are too old to return (it's been a while since I read it, though), but in the movie Aslan explains that they have to integrate what they've learned in Narnia with their soon-to-be adult lives in the real world. That kinda hit home for me. The non-existent movie/book in my head is following Peter and Susan in their non-Narnian lives and seeing if they can actually do it and how. <p>While the first film/book is a more straightforward parallel to elements of the Jesus story, this film feels more 'religious' in a mature way, in that it deals with questions of faith and what happens to a cultural belief over time (especially after the culture that originated that belief has faded). And like others have mentioned, this is not necessarily a Christian thing, but a universal thing. But it is a religious (even theological) thing. Or call it cultural if you like. But again, even these issues don't overtake the film in any kind of preachy or didactic way. <p>And yeah, Dinklage is awesome. One of my favorite actors around today. The guy can say so much with just his eyes. <p>And yeah, that one-line bear was pretty ridiculous. That's the only moment that took me out of the movie. Well, that and all the teenager gangbanger-wannabes laughing at inappropriate places at the viewing I attended. I would have rather seen it with a bunch of kids. Sheesh. <p>Anyway, my summer movies (Iron Man, Speed Racer, Caspian) are 3 for 3 so far. I kinda have a bad feeling about Indy though. We'll see.
May 26, 2008, 2:14 a.m. CST
by retard bear