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You'll HOWL when you hear who's directing McWeeny and Swan's BAT OUT OF HELL!

Published at:  May 15, 2008 4:41:35 AM CDT

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Looks like our own Drew McWeeny and Scott Swan are really on the way to getting their horror project, BAT OUT OF HELL, underway.

Noneother than Joe Dante (HOWLING, GREMLINS, MATINEE) has signed on to direct the flick about the hijackers of a plane who have to deal with something... not all that full of light and sunshine onboard.

Congrats to Moriarty and helluva catch. I've always thought Dante still has it in him. After hearing the horror stories about working with the studio on the god awful Looney Tunes movie, I have faith that you can't lay that turd at his feet. One of the stories, by the way, involved a Warner Bros exec sending a note that said, "Why does the rabbit keep saying "What's up, Doc?" No shit.

Would love to see Dante pull off another great flick... and no matter what, that means we'll get Dick Miller on the silver screen again in some form, so I'm a happy camper.




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  • May 15, 2008 4:44:15 AM CDT

    first?

    by smorgasbord

  • May 15, 2008 4:49:15 AM CDT

    there's something on the wing...

    by icen9ne

    some thing!

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  • May 15, 2008 4:50:10 AM CDT

    Ummm

    by mezzanine

    So is this going to be like Snakes on a Plane with Vampires and / or Vampire bats?

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  • May 15, 2008 4:51:25 AM CDT

    If this movie sounds like what I think it is

    by the guy who slept through everything.

    It could be pretty awesome. Will it have mother fucking snakes?

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  • May 15, 2008 4:54:47 AM CDT

    I for one welcome our new AICN screenwriting overlords

    by industrykiller!

    Congratulations Mori. Really fucking cool. I saw Dante at Edgar Wright's fest at the New Beverly and ever since i've been wondering why he stopped and it's great to see he hasn't. It's about time we started getting back to the 80's sensibilities of horror.

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  • May 15, 2008 5:00:08 AM CDT

    That girl getting her head shaved...

    by bubba gillman

    in Frontier(s) is cute, but why does that trailer keep harrassing me? It won't close. Oh, and congrats Mori. The 'Burbs rules!

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  • May 15, 2008 5:05:25 AM CDT

    If any WB exec...

    by james westfall

    ... does not know why the rabbit keeps saying "What's up doc?" then that exec needs to be fired, instantly, on principle. That's like working for NASA and not knowing Mars is a fucking planet.

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  • May 15, 2008 5:07:46 AM CDT

    Westfall FTW

    by therealmoriarty

  • May 15, 2008 5:15:23 AM CDT

    This movie sounds gay

    by ingloriousjedi

    ..unless they land/crash the plane half way through the film in Iraq and the monsters escape and then the hero/s have to fight the bat/monsters AND iraqi's with guns.

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  • May 15, 2008 5:30:17 AM CDT

    JOE DANTE MAKES NEW MOVIE

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Best news since Jim Cameron's return. Hooray!!!!!!!!!

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  • May 15, 2008 5:31:45 AM CDT

    Looney Tunes wasn't great

    by kwisatzhaderach

    but it did have the inspired running through the art museum sequence, and Timothy Dalton.

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  • May 15, 2008 5:32:39 AM CDT

    But Jerry Goldsmith is dead!

    by musicballs

    Here's hoping Brian Tyler is available.

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  • May 15, 2008 5:34:11 AM CDT

    I hope the ad campaign for this doesn't upset Moriarty or his ch

    by filmcritic3000

    Just joshing you, Drew.

    In all seriousness, congratulations. Here's hoping this is the return to form for Joe Dante that we'll all been hungry to see for years.

    And I totally agree - Dick Miller back on the big screen is a present in and of itself.

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  • May 15, 2008 5:34:23 AM CDT

    Not Allen Ginsberg?

    by thebige

    Because that was my first guess. I guess Dante is ok too.

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  • May 15, 2008 5:35:50 AM CDT

    Dante and Goldsmith

    by kwisatzhaderach

    were the perfect partnership.

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  • May 15, 2008 5:36:28 AM CDT

    MATINEE

    by acorvey25

    Just caught it again on HD Net. Good stuff.

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  • May 15, 2008 5:37:59 AM CDT

    Just got off the phone with Kurt Russell...

    by motoko kusanagi

    ...and he's still laughing...I guess...

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  • May 15, 2008 5:42:50 AM CDT

    Bats on a Plane?

    by darthbakpao

  • May 15, 2008 5:47:07 AM CDT

    Dick Miller

    by photoboy

    Yeah I hope Dante finds a role for him, you can't do a Dante film without Mr Futterman in there somewhere!

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  • May 15, 2008 6:13:37 AM CDT

    Mori...

    by seph_j

    Congratulations. You're living the dream mate. Any tips?! Pleeeeeease?! I take it Joe Dante ain't on your speed-dial list. Seriously though... I'm happy as hell for ya.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:17:23 AM CDT

    ... and....

    by seph_j

    make sure you get to stick around during production. You can't leave these filmmakers alone with a script for five minutes. Now if only you can get your PS3 fixed, everything will be great.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:19:24 AM CDT

    dick miller is fucking god!!!

    by billyhitchcock

    watched explorers yesterday for the first time! fucking quality.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:21:42 AM CDT

    Terrific!

    by psychedelic

    Wonderful news for Drew, Scott, and Joe. Best of luck, guys. I hope the final cut is a lot of fun.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:23:12 AM CDT

    Congrats.

    by psyclops

    The idea sounds interesting enough and anything that can bring Joe Dante out of his hibernation is reason enough to celebrate. Hope this "dream team" delivers a fun horror movie, God knows we need them right about now.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:27:23 AM CDT

    Meat Loafs on a Plane

    by rost

    ...maybe?

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  • May 15, 2008 6:28:45 AM CDT

    Great News

    by evil chicken

    Congratulations to ALL. It sounds like fun and I’m looking forward to checking it out.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:31:45 AM CDT

    Must be hard for a good movie reviewer to write

    by creasybear

    a script, though. Every line of dialogue and element of story structure you write that sucks for whatever reason, you KNOW it sucks, and are thus obligated and compelled to fix it. After meticulously picking through hundreds of other people's movies, you have to be putting your own script through the same process. Sounds frustrating. Ebert's approach is safer (though he did famously write that one pseudo-porn, right?)

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  • May 15, 2008 6:38:20 AM CDT

    Yes YES YES!!! And now interview him!

    by derlanghaarige

    We love Dante!

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  • May 15, 2008 6:39:40 AM CDT

    PS: www.trailersfromhell.com

    by derlanghaarige

    I can't advertise this enough: Joe Dante, John Landis, Edgar Wright and others speak audiocommentaries for any kind of old movietrailer! It's free, it's interesting and the trailers are even watchable without the commentaries.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:40:10 AM CDT

    the trouble is nobody KNOWS their script

    by seph_j

    sucks... I don't think anybody sets out to write a particularly shitty movie. Even if you have written something you think is great, its very possible that you are wrong. And often, if you come back to it the next day, you'll see that what you wrote was laughable. Thats why when you first start writing, even finishing a screenplay is so fucking difficult. You almost have to NOT CARE that its crap... just so you can finish it! Then of course... try to make it less crap.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:41:15 AM CDT

    PPS: I like Looney Tunes:Back In Acion

    by derlanghaarige

    At least it's not Space Jam.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:46:31 AM CDT

    Now someone pick up MORTAL KOMBAT!!

    by umaga

    FUCKING HELL.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:56:13 AM CDT

    Yeah, why does he keep saying "What's Up Doc?"

    by boba fat

    It's a good point. It needs updating to something like "Yo Mo Fo's! What's the Schiz?" Then that movie would have been a hit! Warner Bros call me! I have updates for Foghorn (lose the stutter) and Daffy. Let's face it, the name's offensive to hyperactive kids, how about making him ADD Duck!!
    Congrats to Mori and that other guy and Joe Dante. I love that choice!!! looking forward to any updates.

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  • May 15, 2008 6:57:48 AM CDT

    Congrats Mori!

    by robfrombackeast

    Looking forward to seeing it...

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  • May 15, 2008 7:04:48 AM CDT

    Dante

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Piranha, The Howling, the cool segment of Twilight Zone The Movie, Gremlins, Explorers, Innerspace, The 'Burbs, Gremlins 2, Matinee, Small Soldiers - all great flicks. Gremlins, Explorers and Innerspace are three of my favourite films, made with heart.

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  • May 15, 2008 7:28:38 AM CDT

    Whats wrong with

    by series7

    Back in Action? I liked it. Whatever. What is this movie about? Snakes? On a plane?

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  • May 15, 2008 7:31:16 AM CDT

    Thanks in advance

    by talcy

    Congrats on selling your script and landing Joe Dante. I've missed him. So thanks for helping to bring him back to us as well. Now, where's that Gremlins 3 spec of mine....? ;)

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  • May 15, 2008 7:34:15 AM CDT

    James Westfall

    by messi

    "That's like working for NASA and not knowing Mars is a fucking planet." - best ever.

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  • May 15, 2008 7:41:15 AM CDT

    Congrats, guys.

    by knuckleduster

    This is a huge step forward.

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  • May 15, 2008 8:14:53 AM CDT

    Isn't "Bat Out of Hell" the name of the...

    by dredwardmorbius

    ...second Jeepers Creepers flick??? Anyhoo, I find their writing to be pretty good, I really liked Cigarette Burns and have been a huge Carpenter fan for decades (yes, an elder is actually posting on AICN). I am quite interested in seeing this work, hoping it holds up to that bar. (Someone say bar? I'll have a beer...) The demon-baby one was good, but Nicotero's physical effects kinda' took me outta' that story...especially the baby itself which looked rather...well...bad. At the very least, I trully appreciate someone aiming for the fences and giving it originality and effort, so thanks to both of you for your work and I look forward to your successes in the near future. And the busted tee girls are still super hot and make me tickle in my no spot...

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  • May 15, 2008 8:24:57 AM CDT

    Can you guys write anything that doesn't involve horror ripoffs?

    by nate champion

    Twilight Zone meets Executive Decision. Suck it, Moriarty. Just make sure you get to use the Meat Loaf song on the soundtrack or else it really won't be worth it.

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  • May 15, 2008 8:28:28 AM CDT

    Great to hear Joe's back from the Wilderness!

    by killakane

    It's criminal that he'd fallen by the mainstream wayside for so long, like many other stalwarts of the 80's. Hope he knocks it out of the park and gets back into business, loved his films growing up, certainly rooting for him on this one.

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  • May 15, 2008 9:06:30 AM CDT

    Holy $#!T

    by johnspartan

    Is Dick Miller still alive?!?!

    This site won't tell me:

    http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com

    BTW,

    http://www.deadoraliveinfo.com/dead.nsf/bnames-nf/Busey+Gary

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  • May 15, 2008 9:13:55 AM CDT

    Joe Dante back to work

    by mrpapshmere

    I saw Robert Picardo at Chiller Con last week, and I asked him if Joe Dante was doing anything, and he said he didn't know. Glad to see Joe back at work. I hope others like John Hughes also return, we could certainly use them now with all this crap Hollywood keeps putting out.

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  • May 15, 2008 9:31:31 AM CDT

    Meat Loaf should be in it.

    by rev. slappy

  • May 15, 2008 9:31:48 AM CDT

    "Flight of the Living Dead"

    by thick mcrunfast

    ...was already made and blissfully went straight to video. I foresee a similar fate for a similar concept.

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  • May 15, 2008 9:46:39 AM CDT

    Set it in the late 1970s

    by fiester

    Obviously Meatloaf is the supernatural evil that cannot be stopped. He is unkillable because he sold his soul to the devil for a musical career. Wait...is this a documentary?

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  • May 15, 2008 10:33:29 AM CDT

    It won't be called Bat out of Hell

    by bitterman23

    Someone mentioned Jeepers... no, it wasnt called that. they wanted to use it as the subtitle (Jeepers Creepers 2: Like A Bat out of Hell, if memory serves) and Jim Steinman (writer/sort of producer of the album, Loaf was a glorified hired gun) blocked them from doing so. Mori and Swan have even less of a chance since they want it as the full on title. Judging from the response of some TBers, the proof WHY is already there - people will think its Loaf related. Even though it was a phrase, when it comes to pop culture it is associated with one and only one thing.

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  • May 15, 2008 10:50:59 AM CDT

    I thought Dick Miller died

    by beezbo

    But I don't know where I read that. I'm glad I was wrong!

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  • May 15, 2008 10:54:00 AM CDT

    Joe Dante is not retired.

    by gristle

    Joe Dante isn't coming down from the mountains to do this. He's been somewhat active in the last few years (five since his last movie), most notably the two most biting episodes of Masters of Horror, "Homecoming" and "The Screwfly Solution".

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  • May 15, 2008 10:56:10 AM CDT

    How about some info on who's vying to direct Metal Gear?

    by johnno

    Konami's Aki Saito revealed at the MGS4 Completion party to Kotaku that Paul Thomas Anderson was interested in directing Metal Gear Solid. Though that's just a potential possibility at this point...

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  • May 15, 2008 11:02:59 AM CDT

    Sounds just like..

    by cagliostro

    Dan O'Bannon's original WWII Gremlins script that wound up getting turned into Alien and part of Heavy Metal.

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  • May 15, 2008 11:17:00 AM CDT

    So if I write a song called "For The Love Of God"

    by seph_j

    does that mean that even though God has supposedly existed since the dawn of time, and the phrase has been around for thousands of years, I can still stop people from using the phrase in films or making reference to God's love in publications? For example Church Prayer books and hymn sheets? Mwwwha haa haa haa. I know
    Why don't we ask the man himself. I'm sure he's around here somewhere. Mori... did you consider the possibility that the title may be unavailable... and how important to you is it that the title remains... I mean... is the film actually about a BAT which has come from out of HELL, or is it just a scary name and therefore another title could well be used instead?

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  • May 15, 2008 11:24:18 AM CDT

    Now I know what was so bad about Back In Action

    by derlanghaarige

    Jenna Elfman

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  • May 15, 2008 11:45:45 AM CDT

    Flight Of The Living Dead

    by skimn

    WAS an entertaining B-movie with another "______ On A Plane" plot, and a classic B-level cast that Dante (or Rob Zombie) would appreciate. Has this idea been played out? Kinda, but would like to see the spin Dante and crew can put on it.BTW, at first thought this was another ep of Masters Of Horror, but Dante back on the big screen where he belongs? Huzzah!!

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  • May 15, 2008 12:06:42 PM CDT

    Moriarty, here's an idea that you should think about.

    by stereotypical evil archer

    You should post the "Bat Out of Hell" script in pdf and have daily postings on AICN about production (if you're a part of the production, you know, like a journal or blog. My point is that all of us here could see the movie making process through a writer's eyes and words from spec script through release. You should persue this and make a book deal to publish the script and journal that could coinside with the film's marketing and be part of the DVD package. We come to this site because we love movies and this is a good chance to learn more about the art and collaborative process of filmmaking.

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  • May 15, 2008 12:11:15 PM CDT

    Good idea, Archer

    by bitterman23

    I'd read that... the book about M Night's process of making Lady in the Water is far more entertaining than the film itself.

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  • May 15, 2008 12:15:59 PM CDT

    I agree...

    by seph_j

    it would be a great read... to see the process of bringing a film to life destroy Mori's work, change his vision and dishearten us all. But seriously it would be a good chance to do this... and would probably sell too. But Mori won't post the script. Of course he doesn't want us knowing the story before we go into the cinema! My God, what kind of film-lovers would the AICN staff be if they told us PLOT DETAILS before the films release!!!

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  • May 15, 2008 12:43:32 PM CDT

    Now they just need to get around Jim Steinman...

    by lenny nero

    ...who I thought had the trademark on the title "Bat Out Of Hell." Or am I mistaken?

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  • May 15, 2008 12:47:07 PM CDT

    Lenny - Yes, he does

    by bitterman23

    And since a movie actually based on the album IS being developed, there's no way in, heh, Hell, that he will suddenly change his mind now.

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  • May 15, 2008 1:16:58 PM CDT

    Jim Steinman and Meat Loaf will sure you quicker than you can

    by proman1984

    HOWL! Sorry, but this will probably be true.

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  • May 15, 2008 1:47:43 PM CDT

    I knew there's a "Bat Out Of Hell" play...

    by lenny nero

    ...coming out some time in late 08/early 09, but I have heard nothing about a movie. Let's see how the stage version works, then they can give it to me so I can direct.

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  • May 15, 2008 1:48:53 PM CDT

    Ahhh...I see an "in development" entry...

    by lenny nero

    ...on imdb. Hope it makes it. I was just listening to Part I yesterday, and it definitely got me through the day (and the random Bay Area heat wave). I should be putting on Part II to get me through this lousy day of work in about an hour.

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  • May 15, 2008 1:52:05 PM CDT

    So its BATS ON A PLANE???

    by mike_d

  • May 15, 2008 1:58:18 PM CDT

    Sounds like that made-for-tv movie

    by drunken rage

    some 20-30 yrs ago where a castle or haunted house or something had been dismantled and was being flown from England to the US and it brought its ghosts with it. It sucked.

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  • May 15, 2008 2:12:50 PM CDT

    Please be Piranha-esque!

    by super rabbi

    Loved that movie!

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  • May 15, 2008 2:30:18 PM CDT

    Dante...

    by the true pinback

    While Joe Dante isn't the greatest director walking the face of our miniscule planet, he DOES have some awesome films under his belt. I think his good ones far outweigh his bad ones, and it's about damn time that this guy get back behind the camera. His films are always packed with winks and nods that make filmfans smile. I've been hoping we'd see some more from this guy.

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  • May 15, 2008 2:48:18 PM CDT

    Yeah the Bat movie is supposedly being written by Stu Beattie

    by bitterman23

    Steinman said as much on his blog about a year or so ago, but nothing has been heard about it since. Hopefully the stage musical happens, things are looking good. Anything to wash the stink of 3 (which is a decent enough Meat Loaf album, but not a Bat album by any stretch of the imagination) out of the public's ears...

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  • May 15, 2008 5:20:40 PM CDT

    Grats guys!

    by supersize

    Pretty effin sweet!

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  • May 15, 2008 6:07:30 PM CDT

    Holy CRAP!

    by archive

    Dude, that's fantastic! And this just after that evening at the Beverly? Serendipity! Drew, you're just working your way down your list of childhood heroes! Totally rad. All my blessings!

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  • May 15, 2008 7:19:12 PM CDT

    Seph_J

    by gwai lo

    You're so on point about screenwriting and writing in general in what you wrote above. No one ever thinks their own work sucks, I think good writers have to always hate their work instinctively (or atleast be able to look at it critically) so they can push themselves to do something better each time out. I have written two screenplays that are still in early draft stages, and I'm just letting them sit now as I gain more experience and knowledge of the craft. They will both get rewritten at some point, but since I wrote them with much less knowledge than I have now they're a bit of a mess, structurally. Meanwhile now, for my third screenplay, I'm writing a massive treatment with reminders from Robert McKee and the like scattered throughout, making sure the frikkin' treatment is a masterpiece before I write word one of the actual screenplay. It's tough to get valuable feedback on your work when you're just starting out too, because you either get the unadulterated love from people that like you too much to be honest, or insanely off base criticism from people who can't be constructive (I have watched feedback turn sour from other writers as soon as I say a negative word about THEIR work.) Anyway, congratulations Mori, hope this moves forward with all deliberate speed.

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  • May 15, 2008 8:05:27 PM CDT

    AICN = Unethical Wonderland

    by laudnergomez

    I'm sure this film will be handed some awfully sweet coverage over the next year, before its debut on Starz.

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  • May 15, 2008 9:23:48 PM CDT

    Bat Out of Hell 3 is a great album

    by chrth

    Give Meat Loaf some love and get him a cameo in this flick.

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  • May 15, 2008 11:20:46 PM CDT

    Gawi Lo... thats because

    by seph_j

    my name is Shane Black. But no really... the only way to get screenplays written is to pretend to yourself that you are Ted Elliot or Terry Rossio, and that your film is GOING to get made. You've already been payed for it. And you are writing it to a deadline. That way, your less inclined to just give up after you write something stupid! At least thats how I manage it. Dialogue is the killer though. It's not hard to see why people like George Lucas and Michael Bay don't give a flying fuck about what their characters say... because writing dialogue IS difficult. Screenwriters who can put words into peoples mouths convincingly and interestingly have my respect. Mori where are you?

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  • May 16, 2008 1:53:59 AM CDT

    Some of Bat 3 is great

    by bitterman23

    I really love Blind as a Bat and Alive. And his covers of Its All Coming Back and Bad For Good are decent enough. But its like Couldnt Have Said It Better 2, not Bat 3. It doesn't even feel like a real ALBUM, just a collection of (uneven) songs.

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  • May 16, 2008 1:58:24 AM CDT

    BAT OUT OF HELL 2: MO' BATTY ON A TRAIN

    by bringingsexyback

    Congrats Mori!

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  • May 16, 2008 2:03:39 AM CDT

    Seph_J

    by gwai lo

    I agree that you should have boundless optimism when you're writing your first draft, but when you type that FADE OUT you have to instantly switch into I'm-Akiva-Goldsman-and-I-just-wrote-Batman-and-Robin-mode. I think as long as you have the passion to keep writing, if it's your obsession, then nothing is going to stop you from doing it, least of all the suspicion that you're no good. As for dialog, it's amazing how phoney it sounds when you leave a script for a month or two and then go back and read it. And I consider dialog to be one of the things I do fairly well... But I still notice seriously cringe-worthy lines and whole chunks of pure exposition with a bit of objective distance.

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  • May 16, 2008 4:16:11 AM CDT

    Gremlins, marvelous.

    by dingbatty

    Howling, really embarrassing.

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  • May 16, 2008 5:32:04 AM CDT

    Gwai Lo

    by seph_j

    he he, If only Akiva Goldsman had gone into "I'm-Akiva-Goldsman-and-I-just- wrote-Batman-and-Robin-mode".
    Then we'd all have lives that were just that little bit less sad. To be honest, I'm not sure what I'd consider to be something I do well. Certainly ain't dialogue. All my characters speak the same when I write. Don't really write action scenes... because in a script you can't do it in much detail. I think I write transitions and parentheticals very well... lol. And, may I ask... whats with the Cantonese name?

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  • May 16, 2008 12:59:38 PM CDT

    Seph_J

    by gwai lo

    Not Cantonese myself. Someone told me the literal translation of Gwai Lo (which is a derogatory term for white people) is "pale ghost faced person", which describes me pretty well. Well not right now actually, as I managed to sunburn one side of my body yesterday, so now I look like Two Face.

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  • May 16, 2008 1:35:10 PM CDT

    I live in the Cantonese part of China

    by seph_j

    and just find it ususual to see your name. Sunburn is impossible over here... in the worlds of Charlton Heston... the smog 'creates a suffocation blanket of dust that the sun was powerless to penetrate for a thousand years'. Keep up the writing mate...

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