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First Image Of Samuel L. Jackson As 'The Octopus' In THE SPIRIT!!
Merrick here...
Just like the headline says. The pic comes to us via The San Diego Comic Con magazine which is available online in .pdf form
HERE!!!
For your instant gratification (or...not), here's a considerably smaller version of the image from the document:
There's a whole interview with Frank Miller about the film, starting on page 12 of the .pdf...although the Jackson/Octopus image appears only on the "cover".
NOTE that the .pdf file is rater large...took a few moments to download even with my relatively fast connection.
HERE!!!
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yes!!! please?
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did anyone watch house yesterday? brilliant! and cutty did a striptease! oh lordy!
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It seems like everyone is just patting him on the back telling him he's great and that this movie is so fucking great.I wanted to puke in that panel. He's just copying sin city. Congrats frank. Your about as good a director as a copy machine.
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We're missing out on Sin City 2 for THIS?
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Saw this shit yesterday
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Its taking forever.
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PDF is probably one of the worst formats online today. Here's a pic. http://tinyurl.com/3mc97j
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http://tinyurl.com/6nkbnl
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. . . had no idea Jackson was in this. For fuck's sake, why don't they go ahead and cast him in every damn fanboy role left? And all the voice work too. Every fraggle and every member of G-Force . . .
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That was the sound of my browser crashing. Next time I'm going to read BEFORE I click, so I know if it's some nonsense like this.
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is a total whore. He will do any role if they offer him enough cash. He's a cool guy. I like him as an actor and all but he will take any role no matter how shitty the film may/may not be.
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that says Sam Jackson has to appear in a minimum of 20 movies a year. It's the only thing I can figure.
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There are a bunch here at the bottom of the trailer review. www.stuffdaddy.blogspot.com/
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He's like "Isn't Nick Fury BLACK?" I shook my head and said."You're retarded."just then I saw a couple of old black guys in front of us looking at each other with disappointed eyes. Shit, I am so embarrassed for my buddy.
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will be as cool as SJ's villain character in Jumper. Christ, this movie looks worse and worse every day.
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I really hope it fails.Miller's getting to Hollywood and for years all the producers of this film kept saying is that they will be true to will eisners vision.
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May 13, 2008 11:56:07 AM CDT
You have to look at the dumb ass pics of Sam as the Octopus here
by redbox
www.stuffdaddy.blogspot.com he looks silly!
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But he's been riding on Pulp Fiction for 15 years.
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The Dark Knight Returns is one of my favorite comics ever, but seriously: Frank Miller is the ONLY ONE ON THE PLANET who gives two shits about The Spirit. This will bomb, guaranteed.
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your story doesn't make any sense.
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The trailer looked retarded and the pic of Sam Jackson in a furry coat doesn't help. I forsee this movie bombing at the box office.
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Those green screen pics of Jackson are laughable.
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Miller is a hack, and this bullshit is going to sink faster than a fat man stuffed with rocks.
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...or Jules without the curl... or the McDowell's robber from 'Coming To America' without the dirt fro. That Sam Jackson is a master of disguise. Or not.
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The Spirit is the first great comic series, so screw you, if you don't know shit about it. Some things that came before us actually have more integrity and balls than the shit we get served Today! However, you're all correct, this movie looks like a piece of shit! That's because Miller is a one trick pony and he's doing the Spirit the same way he does everything, make it look like Sin City.
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but there's fucking millions of actors in hollywood. pick another fucking one god dammit
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Stick him in a DC film and he has the TRIFECTA!!! GOOD FOR HIM!!!
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...along with Flash Gordon and Prince Valiant. I know a lot about it. And I also know Frank Miller is a coke-addled has-been who hasn't written anything worth a damn in roughly 20 years. This isn't Eisner's Spirit, which doesn't bother me so much as the fact that it's Frank Miller's Spirit. Which by definition will suck.
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Thanks for that comparison. Like I said, laughable. I guess the runny masquera lines represent the tentacles of the Octopus. Maybe he's born with it?! Maybe it's Maybelline!
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Samuel L Jackson should just play every character in every comic movie! He acts the same in every movie. snore,
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Henceforth, I will miss this film.
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Hahaha, people bitching about PDF format? Hey, maybe you could order a hardcopy on stone tablet.
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Frozone, Mr. Glass, Nick Fury, The Octopus, Roland (in 'Jumper') and I'm sure I've forgotten a few. Sam mate, like, c'mon... let someone else have a turn. I would say that he's one of the few actors these days who can truly command the screen. Even in total crap the guy is intensely watchable. He has a talent for being able to do the fucking best work... and actually ACT.... and also star in the biggest turds being made, and still gain total respect. Has anyone EVER turned Sam J down for a role?.... Ever?
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Miller is the second coming of god and christ reunited, even drunk and coke up his nose being shagged by three starlets in Cannes, which is what I'm witnessing right now
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No-one gives a damn + movie looks retarded= BOMB.
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Sam Jackson + Frank Miller = the new Star Wars franchise it's going to rock boys !
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a Nigerian Pimp in that pic.
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I remembered Frozone's batshit crazy queer-as-all-hell but cool-as-fuck skating groove that he minces along with in The Incredibles. Probably the fuckin' funniest physicalisation of any character animated or otherwise, in the history of cinema. Go on, grab the DVD guys.... watch his fingers wiggle as he skates along on the ice in the final act of the movie.
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If anything he's copying off himself, Rodriguez used the panels as storyboards.
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Bottom of the page all three glorious Sam L. Octopus pages!! http://tinyurl.com/3o9ncy
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The laughable hate is just noise of the insecure vocal minority. But Miller's interpretation of the Octopus and the Spirit is leaving me frigid and impotent.
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he'll play the octopus like he did the dude in menace II society..."what da fuck you mean you aint got my money yet mutha fucka you best be comin up wit my cash"...
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...until he can start actually saying no to a crap script. He's like a black John Ritter.
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because I had no fucking idea what it was. and I never thought I'd say this because i fucking HATED the movie of Sin City, but this Spirit idea sounds like it could be really good. Miller is someone who totally 'gets' story archetypes; hell that and drawing hot girls and cars are practically the only thing he 'gets.' so it seems to me the only place logical to go after making a movie of the very postmodern Sin City, would be a very premodern crime saga from the 40's.what sucks is that this picture of Samuel L Jackson, and the marketing stuff they have up in NYC, makes it look like they are just making a Sin City retread and it additionally makes me think the movie will suck just like that one did. why Frank Miller feels the need to lend Hollywood his talents and not comics readers like ours truly is a mystery to me.
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I SAID. DOES. HE. YELL. IN. THIS. ONE? WORDS MOTHERFUCKER! DOES HE YELL THEM?
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Has he been in a video game yet? Worn a dress in a movie? If the answer to both of those questions is yes, I officially nominate him as the black Tim Curry.
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...aka a "man-dress". Is that close enough?
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May 13, 2008 1:12:48 PM CDT
Every movie is a shitty one on AICN
by guy who got a headache and accidentally
That's not an exageration or colorful use of fucking speech, find me one talkback where people aren't acting like that movie the worst piece of shit to come out in ages.
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'Iron Man'?
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Far too talented to be saying "yes" to every damn role he's offered.
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For one thing, he's awesome, and for another, I dare you to watch Black Snake Moan and still complain about him.
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...other than that, he looks more like some kind of bizarre Tim Burtonesque-by-way-of Baz Luhrmann updating of Superfly than anything Will Eisner ever did. Frank Miller's The Spirit = Wachowski Sibling's Speed Racer. (You know I'm right!)
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of Black Snake Moan. You know, because it was so goddamned ridiculous.
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You're right, BSM was kind of cool in a weird way. It reminded me of old school Jackson, before he got to that point of playing every character in every movie exactly the same way.
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...just saw the pic Danny Glover's uh...Memberblood linked too. Why the f*** did Miller give Sammy L the same eye makeup Alice Cooper wore on the cover of Killers back in the early 1970s? And why are his henchmen dressed up like old Batman TV show henchmen? Miller needs to quit hanging out at Robert Rodriguez's Texas compound doing massive lines of blow and banging smuggled-in Mexican teenage hookers.
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"The Spirit" is one of those (to me at any rate) peripheral comic book characters - I know what he looks like, suit & domino mask - I know he was created by Will Eisner...but nothing else. Nada, zip, zilch...anybody care to illuminate a poor lost soul ? And who the hell is this Octopus ?
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just Wikipedia it, I knew nothing about The Spirit and found it pretty informative.
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Why waste money on releasing shit ? Miller is the king of con men, his DD was written by Denny O Neil and drawn by Klaus Jansen, he is an usurpator
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actually i'm going to wikipedia the spirit and see what this is about but that picture looks like sin city...
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is that your blog you linked to? its pretty good and informative either way.
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or Cold.
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and it looked like SIN CITY 2 in "style".
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Of course Indy IV is going to be a mid-bomb as well -- it'll do okay first weekend, and then disappear. HULK and TDK will prolly both make mad bank though.
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Frank Miller is derivative only of himself. It's not that bad. Name one movie this summer that looks like this both visually and stor..ily. I'll ask again, what was everyone expecting???
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Yesterday's House was brilliant! It was a bit Twin Peaksish wasn't it? For once this season it didn't feel like the writers were phoning it in. I foresee an Emmy nom for this like "Three Stories" a couple of years back. It's hard to keep that show fresh but when they tap into something structurally different...fuck.
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SAMEUL L. JACKSON! Whodathunk
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I'm bored of SLJ.
What's Michael J. Fox doing these day?!
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May 13, 2008 4:12:25 PM CDT
The Most Visually Daring & Insane Movie ofthe Decade Bombed
by laserpants
That is, SPEED RACER. So what chance does this have? Nil. D.O.A.
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It deserved to be a big hit, it should have been a big hit, but it was just too insane, weird, and awesome for mainstream audiences. Its a cult movie all the way. A really expensive cult movie. But, hey, so was BLADE RUNNER.
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hmm since the mysteriois octopus is never fully seen in the comic...we should not only give him an outlandish costume but have him grace the magazine covers!
and a fur coat? seriously? pretty evil...in the 70's when bad guys were pimps or drug dealers.
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and other arguable mediocrity...when given a chance that motherfucker SHINES. aint no actor black or white as cool as him when he's cool.
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That movie was just plain and simple... Insane! my little brother loved it though... how can u go wrong when u have guns, standoffs, karate, ninja assassins, mario kart like races, shadowy and crazy ass villians, and a monkey in a suit! insane!
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...was that you never saw him or knw who he was. Now that the cat is out of the bag; what's the delio?
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but I wish someone would make an incredible Doc Savage movie.
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I looked the link u posted and man sam jackson looks horrible in those pics! I agree though, that by showing the octopuss, when in the comic he was not seen, is a stupid idea...
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a kick-ass Doc Savage movie. Good on, mrfan.
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Miller seems to have completely shifted from comics to film, and has entirely forgotten what is important about comics, and why adapting works is an issue to begin with. It's very seldom that someone switches mediums like this, and says fuck you to what he did before (in a sense). What he's doing with this is absolutely no different at all than if McG or some other hack took a famous property and just made it their own. I loved Sin City, but that's how the comic looked. This is just Miller congratulating himself and building himself up, while sullying Eisner, who he should fucking treasure. And yes, it's also going to lower excitement/interest in Sin City 2.
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...and I mean, not to mention that small detail of how you never see below the bridge of his nose in the comic.
I want to remake ROOTS. I want to cast Jim Carrey as Chicken George, Zach Braff as Young Kunta, Michael Madson as Older Kunta, and Michelle Rodriguez as Kizzy.
I find it EXTREMELY offensive that every white character out there is being turned black. It's an attack on the creators of those characters, truly.
How long did it take for Black Panther to become ANYTHING? All these fucking wannabee bigshots like Russell Simmons - all supposedly real big on comic books and video games - and not one of these cocksuckers thought of partnering to finance any of those great superhero stories headlined by black characters? -
except for his purple gloves. for all we knew, he could have been The Joker.So Miller dumps that in order to cast Mr. glass in te role. That's the degree of cleverness you have come to expect from someone who's still mining that old "lets give him a black costume" cliche.
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The Octopus wore hundreds of disguises, we never saw his real face. He could have been anyone. If ever there was a character that anyone could play it's him. You should take the nipple clamps off, their distracting your brain. But, the fact that we have pictures of a character we never ever saw in the comics, that IS very sad. If Sam wants to play the role in the shadows, great, but why did Miller decide we had to see him? Because Millar is clamping his nipples too. God damn nipple torture sickos!
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I appreciate the compliment.
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The teaser does nothing for me.
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Look kids! Frank Miller CAN do wrong!
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can be gauged by the fact that Rumsfeld and Titties tbs are blowing this topic out of the water. AS WELL THEY SHOULD.
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Miller had one good hit, Dark Knight Returns and some Daredevil issues. His other shit is too over the top. Dark Knight 2 was a re-tread of DK1 and it sucked soooo much! Sin City and 300 were pieces of shit. Dialogue so fucking bad. I swear to god, His characters are like Powdered toast man but without the irony. So serious that it's shite!
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May 13, 2008 11:06:24 PM CDT
I like Sam Jackson... but isn't he getting over-exposed?
by prof. pop-cult
It seems like he's everywhere -- showing up playing a bad-ass mofo who will fuck your shit up if you cross him... but deep down he's an all right guy you respect. He's become like the African-American Gene Hackman (who throughout the 1990s seemed to appear in almost every other movie).
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who knew?? even eisner didnt know
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I really like the guy, too, and don't mean to knock him. But I have to agree that he seems to be the easy go-to guy when you want instant bad-assery in your genre movie.
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I would've loved to see The Shadow remade instead. That character has a lot of potential on the big screen. Too bad the Alec Baldwin movie wasn't that great. I'd say, adapt Howard Chaykin's version of the book from the 80's and you have a great movie.
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Why did Frank Miller have to choose the PERFECT CAPTAIN AMERICA, Gabriel Macht, of all people, to star in this misguided (and likely doomed) adaptation of The Spirit? Why?! Is it terrible of me to hope that this utterly fails under-the-radar so Macht is free to play Cap?
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Give Me Liberty... which was drawn by Dave Gibbons, who drew Watchmen. Check it out.. http://tinyurl.com/2ldld9
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I have every issue, and I did work for Will Eisner in the 90's. The Octopus was a white guy with red hair. He's seen, n the very first panel of the "Origin of the Octopus" as a small, white boy with glasses reading a book (but the lower half of his face was hidden by the book.) His mom is also white. And yes, you do see his hands, and the upper part of his face. Just not "below the bridge of his nose" as Eisner wrote in his character notes. He's bald - that's about all they got right. Maybe you two should read the fucking comic book before you open your stupid cumholes.
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http://tinyurl.com/3ll42l
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May 14, 2008 7:19:03 AM CDT
Here're snippets of Einer's "The Origin of the Octopus"...
by ambush_bug
His hair was sandy as a boy... not red. For some reason I remembered it as red. But other than that, I was absolutely, undisputably correct...
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Miller is such a fucking hack. Screw him and his lame ass chicken scratch "art" The Spirit is gonna suck colossal nuts. The teaser for the flick is the worst I've ever seen.
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I like Frank Miller in comic books and even in Robocop 2, but this movie looks uninspired.
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Sin City's poor cousin.
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Reading is more than just saying the words in your head! There is also the concept of understanding! You are referring to a much later story 'The Life Story of The Octopus' which I would argue is not much more than a fun 'retcon.' If you think one picture of a kid with glasses who had his face in a book, written 30-40 years after the character was created, is the basis of your argument of racial purity, you are a super duper Klansman SUPREME! I can't believe you think that is a cogent argument. What did you do under Eisner's employ? Build a porch on his house? Anyone want to see for themselves? http://tinyurl.com/4hm5ox two thirds down the page. You racist ninny!!
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http://tinyurl.com/6zd7yr
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Dude, seriously. You are fucking retarded. That's the exact same link I posted. See the kid with his face in a book? See his mom? See him in the radiation scene? How about reading the fucking comic jackass? That may help! And I'm not racist, I just think it's wrong to change the ethnicity of a character just to sell more tickets. My example was a good one too, but you're obviously too stupid to comprehend it. If a character of any other ethnicity was changed to caucasian/anglo - people would have a shit fit and start screaming racism - like you did with my example of an all-white cast for ROOTS. But it's the same fucking thing they've done to Mr. Eisner's character... and who knows if he would have like this rendition or not... but goddamn it, this is NOT The Octopus. This is not The Spirit. This is a trainwreck.
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...and, jackass, before you open your stupid fucking yap again, read this -
http://tinyurl.com/6zd7yr - it's the story those clips were taken from, and it's Eisner '67, which makes it official. As for my work with him, I helped out with projects for him and another artist - mostly non-comic based, like "The Bartenders Guide", which Eisner either published or had the publishers as one of his many freelance accounts. I remember one discussion in particular where he was just sitting there and drawing in a newspaper. He'd flip a few pages, and doodle some more. I found about three sketches in there (which I actually have saved in one of my sketchbooks somewhere), where he redrew three illustrations - in the exact same styles they were drawn - but with small changes, for example, in the way a hand was posed. To me, this was a sign of his respect for the original art... taking it, recreating it, but also respecting the original artist and "tributing" them as opposed to trying to outdo them. That's why Samuel L Jackson is wrong for this role - and Frank Miller give me douche chills the likes of which I only get when I hear the name "Uwe Boll" when it comes to him handling anything other than his own original work.
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For the record, I am very unhappy with the way this movie is shaping up. Also for the record, I think you didn't address my points at all. Perhaps I teased to to much and sent you off in a tizzy. My bad, it takes away from the point which is that the character existed for decades without this back story, that shows a couple of panels that define him as possibly white (with grey and the red hair, what ethnic group is that?). So most folks see this character as an enigma, but because one story, in the late 60's defines him as a pale child, you feel that artistic license has expanded beyond reason. Look, I got very angry when John Constantine was transmogrified into a brunette Californian, I understand that the Black Widow should never be portrayed as an Irish middle aged housewife, but the essential Octopus is that he is "unknown" and to most Spirit fans, he is best left that way. Why Miller wanted to take away the mystery and why you would want to have them stay true to a couple of later panels, is really beyond me. Do you feel that those panels add illumination to a character that is important? I find that hard to believe. The Octopus is an enigma, and he should stay one. Like "V for Vendetta," we should never, ever see him. I called you a racist. That word gets thrown around too much nowadays, but I just don't know why you would argue that the Octopus' ethnic background is the important thing here. Honestly, you leave me baffled. This is like arguing that Peter Parker is the clone, and they ruined the movies by not showing Ben Reilly. Just because someone chose to retcon. Sometimes it matters what the character's race or ethnicity is, but not always. It's not always a slap in the face. Sometimes it's not a big part of the characters definition. I really have no idea why three panels written way after the cannon seems so important to you. My guess was that like a lot of white folks, you just wanted a reason to cry, another name to put on the Nick Fury, Kingpin list. (I'm white so I know exactly how we are) Maybe you have a better reason. Please, for the love of Eisner, who I think we both worship, let me in on the secret! Why do you care so much about his race and seem completely fine that they have taken him out of the shadows, which seems much more criminal.
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You really aren't reading my posts are you? I posted the same link to the complete story. Look at the post titled "Here's the whole story!!" Jeez..
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Peter Parker ain't fuckin' Iraqi, Ben Grimm ain't fuckin' Russian, Lex Luthor ain't fuckin' Mongolian, Storm ain't fuckin' Irish, and The Octopus ain't fuckin' Black. It is not this one isolated incident that angers me, but it is one of the most unnecessary changes - and yes, now it's fuckin' Samuel L Jackson... and it ain't the Octopus anymore. Just like Nick Fury is Samuel L Jackson too now apparently. I mean... seriously. If someone took 'The Black Panther' and casted Johnny Depp... you don't think the Black Defamation League would be up that producers ass? C'mon. And I provided that link so you would actually READ the content you linked to. Derrrrrr!
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I believe I mentioned that in a previous post. I hate how this movies coming out - and there's one thing I know Mr. Eisner would have HATED... and it's Denny's wardrobe color change. But THERE is yet another reason why Jackson is a horrenous choice for the role... because they need to show his face to get their money's worth. Why hire him and not get the whole package of "crazy angry black man quipster"... because, you know, that's what he's bound to be be since - and god love him, but - Samuel Jackson cannot act worth a shit. There, I said it. Samuel L Jackson cannot act worth a shit.
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One large, pissed off redneck white guy to another.. You have a very basic statement, which you have mentioned many times; you hate when they change the race of characters. I asked you a more complex question, a question of relevancy. I asked you several times. You answer was to restate your premise and at times to repeat back to me things that I have put forth, not as if there is a meeting of the minds but as if you have said these things just now and given birth to them. You seem to be an absolutest, the method and the context not as important as the action, so lets just say we both don't like the way this movie is coming out and I'll leave you to your other arguments. God love you.. One other thing, Sam Jackson has played many roles and many of them are subtle and complex, like his characters in "The Red Violin" or "Unbreakable" or "A Time to Kill." You pigeon hole him as a "crazy black man" because that's what you think of when you see him. That's all you think he can bring to the film. That's because black people are a joke to you. Sure you know a few and you think you are friends with them maybe, but you look at them completely differently, you think they got the jobs the got because someone else who was better was pushed out of the way, you think they complain too much about racism this and racism that. Even your favorite comic characters are becoming "non-white." Now, you have to put up with these people taking your beloved characters and changing them completely because Need Leeds on the new Spider-man cartoon is now Asian instead of white. Or the Kingpin! Or Nick Fury! Or The Octopus!! Who we see as white for two seconds in a retcon!! You are so right! Let's start a protest! These characters are now so damn tainted because the aren't white any more! you can't relate to them now! Nick Fury is Black! How can you sleep at night! I am so sick of this shit. I am so sick of pompous idiots who think that this issue is soo big a deal! The truth, somethings it matters, because ethnicity adds to the flavor of the character (DareDevil is Catholic) but what is Peter Parker? Is he Christian? Is he Jewish? His creators were Jewish. But since it's never been that important to the story, does it matter? Only when these things are intrinsic does it matter. It's not a principal, its the art of adapting, modernizing while keeping the essence. It's not about race! It's about what works and what doesn't. You can't see that because you take it as a personal offense. There you are, standing proud for the white race, protecting cartoon characters from being tainted and ruined.. They ought to make a statue to you. You little twit. Evolve already.
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bravo redbox and ambush bug bravo. You guys have made blogging history carrying on a very entertaining blogging war. I would like to chime in if I may even though I knew absolutely nothing about this spirit character until I read these posts. I think most people will agree that showing the Octopusses face is a mistake period. If the character's face was never seen in any of original comics then showing his face in the movie destroys the sense of mystery created in the comic. Even the character were played by that smug redheaded white guy from CSI Miami it would still be wrong. So having the character being played by Samuel L. Jackson is not wrong because he's black, but because its so a huge betrayal to the original character and also because it doen't feel right. Also why does he have to wear a fur coat and look like a pimp--come on can't they be more creative than that. Speaking of SLJ let me digress for a minute. Anyone who hates ALL of SLJ's movies and ALL of Frank Miller's work is an idiot, should have their head checked and think about blogging on the friends or fraiser fanclub websites.Especially if they use the word Frankified. Now lets get back the racial aspect of the conversation, because it is a tricky subject to discuss. Sometimes I don't have a problem with the racial switch sometimes I do. Just for the record white actors have played roles based on black people. In HangEm High Clint Eastwood's character was based on a real life blackman. Also in the Flash Gordon TV show they decided to make Ming the Merciless a blonde haired blue-eyed Aryan and finally in the pokermovie 21 that just came out a few weeks ago they replaced the asian guy whose life story the movie is about with a whiteguy. Hollywood has a long history with replacing minority characters with white actors--look it up! Also I like Will Smith,but his movies suck, but for those who like his movies some of his characters were based on white characters. I don't have a problem with that. If the role is good why can't a black, hispanic or asian guy play the part. Having said that, I'm also a huge comic book fan and changing the racial makeup of certain key charcters kind of bothers me. Love Michael Clark Duncan, he did a great job in Daredevel, but Kingpin is not black period. And neither is Nick Fury. On a gut level for me certain characters need to remain intact. If they made a Spiderman movie with a blackguy as the Rhino or Electro I would not be as bothered, but keeping all the white comic characters white for the sake of the racial integrity of the characters is stupid to me. Sometimes the role should go the actress who can best portray the character. To me Eartha Kitt was the best Catwoman ever until Michelle Pfiffer stole the title, but Halle Berry was the worst Catwoman.
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Yes... that is all I'm saying.. thanks for saying it!
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...that has to resort to calling me a racist to get people on his side. You obviously don't have the intelligence to separate the subject of "changing characters ethnicity" from "black people are evil" - and it shows how absolutely ignorant you are. I read what you write, but it's nonsense because it's all about being correct... and that's not what I'm doing, I'm just stating an opinion that it isn't right to change a character's ethnicity for a movie - especially if the reason is to use a B-level actor as the main selling point of that movie. I used a harsh example , but it made a great example of how offensive it is on the other end of the spectrum. BTW, racism - for your information - is not a one way street, fella. I mean, I can go into a long list of casting/continuity fuck ups - but, I mean, don't they even want to make any of these fucking movies like the comic books? Especially the ones that have been around for sixty-five years, reprinted dozens of times in several formats? The reason you're making a fuckin' movie in the first place is because the source material was good enough to create a loyal fanbase - so what do they do... change the formula. well LICK MY HAIRY BEAN BAG - in the words of Brad Bird, "You invited me to a banquet, and all you're serving is hot dogs."
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