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Moriarty Interviews Joel Silver About SPEED RACER! Plus A Scoop On Who’s Directing SGT. ROCK!

Hey, everyone. “Moriarty” here. One of the best moments of the press weekend for SPEED RACER was sitting down opposite Joel Silver, my first interview with this producing legend. I’ve loved as many of his films as I’ve hated over the years, but I’ve always loved Silver himself as a sort of giant personality, a kind we don’t often see in producers. I’m fond of his cameo in ROGER RABBIT, for example, where he ribs his own press persona with his performance as the director yelling at poor Roger. I’ve had many meetings as a writer on projects at his company over the years, and they’ve even taken me into the studio a few times, but it’s never worked out for me to get hired. But in all that time, I’ve never really spent any significant time talking to Silver directly, and so it was worth the drive to Long Beach on a Friday afternoon through crazy traffic to where Warner was using the Long Beach Grand Prix as the backdrop for their junket. I had twenty minutes with Silver all to myself in one of the many rooms Warner Bros. had commandeered at the conference center. As we walked in, we talked about the screening the night before, where my son had gone completely apeshit for it. On the way out of the theater, Toshi was telling everyone how much he liked it, including Silver, who was standing by one of the doors. “I like the movie,” he said as he walked by Silver, and the producer beamed down at him. “Thank God,” he replied as Toshi just kept walking. I told Silver how much his reaction had made me laugh, and he told me he really was pleased to hear such an obviously unfiltered reaction from exactly his target audience. Moriarty: It’s crazy. This is the first time he’s been hyped for a film, where he’s nuts about the trailer and asks about it every day. This and WALL-E this summer are pretty much all he’s about right now. It was strange, though... he knows the characters now, so when he ran into [John] Goodman at the end of it, he just sort of casually said, “Hey, Pops,” and kept going. He just accepted him as real. At what point did the Wachowskis know they were going to make this as a family film?

Joel Silver: Well, it came from them. They knew I had SPEED RACER, and we’d talked about it in the past when we’d get together and I... I hadn’t looked at it in the while, and after we finished V, they called me one day and they said, uh, “What are you doing with that SPEED RACER thing?” I said, “I’m struggling.” And they said, “Well, weeeeeee have an idea.” “Go for it.” And the studio put up the dough and they went and made this five minute pre-viz of... it’s really one race, and it’s funny, because there are actually... we were discussing this a few days ago, but there are some shots that were in that pre-viz that made it through to the finished movie.

Moriarty: Really?

Joel Silver: Not exactly the way they were, but those precise ideas got through. So they sat with Dan Glass and John Gaeta, our team, and they created this pre-viz, which was, you know, kind of a composite of all the races. It was just to show me and the studio what they wanted to do. So it took about six or eight weeks, and I remember, it was December of ’06, and we showed it to everybody in a screening room on the lot, and the lights go down and the projector goes on and they watch this... race. And the lights go up, and... you know... they were kind of... there was... they were perplexed. And they said, you know, “Is it ROGER RABBIT? I mean, what is this? Is it live-action? Is it animation?” And the Wachowskis said, “Well, the idea is that it’s live-action anime.” “And that’s... what, exactly?” (laughs) So they explained what their intention was, and the studio said, “Let’s go for it.”

Moriarty: Well, it is one of the most aggressively visual films I’ve seen in a long time, and about ten minutes in, my wife actually leaned over and said, “Is the whole thing going to look like this?” By the end of it, though, she found it all quite beautiful. I think it does take a few moments to sort of adjust to that world...

Joel: That’s what happened when the first trailer came out. I mean, people... I mean, I was happy that Harry really got it and loved it. I think [he] referred to the clip as “chocolate-covered pussy juice,” I think he said. Which, by the way, I was happy to see that he said he liked that... but there were a lot of people that didn’t quite get it. “What is it exactly?” You know, what do you need? A couple of journalists I showed it to, they... which, by the way, they were very... one guy said, “Well, is CGI BETTER? What is wrong with the old kind of movie making?” These are older journalists, and it is hard to shake them of the golden age of CHINA SEAS, but... CHINA SEAS, by the way, if you look at that movie, which is a Clark Gable movie, they shot all the wide shots on the back lot, but they went back into the studio to shoot the close-ups. So they took... they took still... you know, er, rear projection, and they took close-ups on the stage. They could’ve shot the wide shots and the close-ups together [on location], but they felt they had more control on the close-ups on a soundstage.

Moriarty: I don’t think it’s necessarily that... it’s not that you’ve broken a big technical barrier, that no one’s shot a movie with similar ideas. I mean, this does go back to the golden age of Hollywood where you created the whole world, and I think that is what I really respect about it. It is a world that from the beginning to the end is very persuasive, and I like that it’s sort of an alternate history, and you can see where it diverges from the real world. Um, I get the sense that they laid out a real history, like they know exactly where the steps were where they got from our reality to this one.

Joel: Sure.

Moriarty: Um, but I think its very childlike in the way it treats the racing and the physics. It’s not that it disregards this reality, it just sets its own sort of rules. Um... was it a... was it difficult imparting that to the cast? Sort of what the tone of this world is gonna be because that’s... it is sort of a leap for them.

Joel: Well, I mean, they... they... film makers like Larry and Andy, they know what they want. They go into the, the, into the day knowing what they want. I watched them in the visual effects review and they’re, they have seen in their heads what they want it to look like, and they are directing the visual effects guy to give them what they want, so they knew the tone and they were really fans of the show. They liked the show...

Moriarty: Oh, it’s obvious, too, it’s obvious that they must really love the characters and the world and...

Joel: ... and they wanted to keep the tone, and the fun, and the aesthetic of the show and... and they wanted to make, again, a family movie. It is important that you like it as your son likes it. They want families to go together and love this picture. There are things in there that maybe older kids may not LOVE, but little kids would love, and things that little kids may not get and the older people would get, so they, it’s kind of a mixture like that... but they kept the tone the way they wanted it, and that’s... and, and, and when they cast the movie they got the people they felt would give them what they wanted. I mean they, they saw every young hot actor in Hollywood and they really felt that Emile was the guy. They felt that he was Speed. He, he was honest, and forthright, and ambitious, and he was... he had the wholesome quality that Speed had to have. And they felt, they felt that Christina looked like Trixie so... and and and John Goodman, and Susan Sarandon, and Matthew... and they really wanted them all to be the characters and they wanted them all to watch the show and see what it was...

Moriarty: I think that Matthew does some of his best work ever in this. He really... he is... the way he buys the reality of it, it reminds me of the best moments in THE MATRIX, where you get the sense that those actors love that world, and they love being in it, and they love playing with the toys of it.

Joel: They commit. They commit to it.

Moriarty: Matthew gives... I don’t know if I’ve ever seen him so loose and funny... I felt...

Joel: He worked on the voice a lot. He wanted to get Racer X’s voice, ya know? He wanted that authority that Racer X has, and he did it.

Moriarty: The film makers that I always enjoy you working with are the guys who I think you... you are the only person who protects them the right way, and it seems like there are some film makers that you really click with. I think the Wachowskis, you obviously have a great rapport with them. Um, I think Shane Black, the fact that now as a director you’re really... you’ve enabled him to take that step... ummm...

Joel: He is writing another script right now for us.

Moriarty: ... his voice finally is, that’s the Shane Black that we’ve loved on the page, and I finally felt like I saw that in a film. As a producer, is that your role when you find an artist that you love, to really support their voice and their vision?

Joel: Well my job as a producer is always to support the director, y’know? I, it’s up to the director to make the movie, he has to make the movie. I mean, I like to be involved in these kind of giant movies that allow me to make a contribution, allows me to be involved in the process and, you know, do what I do, which is keep it all going. And there are problems on a movie every day, and my job is to kind of solve those problems, but I serve the director, and I have to get ‘em what he needs and get everybody what they want and support their vision and, and, you know, I work with directors I believe can benefit from that relationship. And, uh, those have been the most successful movies that I’ve done. And Larry and Andy, we’ve been together almost... for over 10 years now and I mean, I, I am so proud every day I work with them. I mean, they, they are consummate professionals. They understand... I mean, I sit with them and watch these effects reviews, and I don’t know how they understand the systems, the process so well... they understand every aspect of color correcting, and density and focus, and focal length, and filters, and they understand everything, and they know what they want. You work with a lot of directors that DON’T understand that process at all, who look for help...

Moriarty: Right, or they will lean on a great supporting team or a tech team...

Joel: But, but these guys are as good as it gets.

Moriarty: I think what surprised me most is that they are funny...

Joel: ... very funny...

Moriarty: ... and we’ve never seen funny from them, really, in their films before. Uh, but some of the best stuff in this movie is... well, you guys found the right kid... I think Paulie Litt is the kid.

Joel: I mean, he is great, he is what Spritle was, y’know? And we’re concerned if we do make more of them, that... you know... I don’t know if you can find a kid who is the same age, and we have to move quickly if we want to see Paulie again...

Moriarty: Yeah, I know... but that was, I think, that’s the area that normally, like... I think that there are some people who are going to be too cynical for the film. I think the film is really sincere and it’s very sweet and, um... it seems like, especially right now, almost all of pop culture is kind of sarcastic and snarky, and, um, how conscious were the Wachowskis that they were making something that kind of stands apart from that?

Joel: They wanted to make a family movie. They wanted a movie that everybody would enjoy, and, look, we...

Moriarty: Even, like, Dreamworks... they make everything kind of sarcastic and one step removed, and make everything into a “hip” movie for kids...

Joel: ... but, but Pixar movies... THE INCREDIBLES and RATATOUILLE... those movies aren’t that snarky and, like, they... I mean, you know, it was no mistake that Michael Giacchino came onboard...

Moriarty: ... awwww, his work is fantastic.

Joel: I mean, it’s genius, and someone told me the whole score is online now...

Moriarty: It is. Yesterday, it premiered...

Joel: People are, like, loving it. I don’t know why they put the whole score on...

Moriarty: It’s more like a big sampling. I think it’s like about an hour of music, an hour ten of music...

Joel: But it’s so... it makes it all so... magical. The movie, I mean... he, that last reel, the end of that race when he goes into that music, it just takes... takes your breath away.

Moriarty: I really, I found it very emotional, the stuff they say about family, about watching your kids start to succeed and become what they want to be. There is real value in that, and I like how they portray it.

Joel: What I was saying before was... if I can finish what I was saying... is that some of these... yes, some of these, the more kind of, you know, teen-oriented or older movies tend to be very sarcastic, and tend to be, you know, um, you know, “wink wink nudge nudge,” y’know, where we get the jokes. But the purpose of this movie was to interest my six year old, interest your three year old, as well as interest adults. So we had to make a movie wouldn’t go over their heads, and I mean there are sometimes jokes... I remember in the first TOY STORY, where, you know, Don Rickles’s character is “Ahhh, you hockey puck,” and it really is a hockey puck...

Moriarty: Yeah.

Joel: There are things like that, that are designed for a different aesthetic, but primarily we are talking about a family movie that needs to have that warmth and that enveloping quality, and I think this movie has that.

Moriarty: Well I think there is a movie, in a lot of the, I mean, everything now seems to be a pre-existing property, seems to be a remake, or seems to be a reinvention or something. There seems to be a move with a lot of it that I feel is very calculated, that, like, they buy it because it has a lot of name recognition. This doesn’t feel like that at all. This doesn’t feel like, “Okay, SPEED RACER. This demographic likes it.” The people who are most nostalgic for it are in their 40s...

Joel: Sure...

Moriarty: ... and kids just like it because of the innate thing of fast cars...

Joel: That’s... that’s the whole thing. I mean, Favereau told me the story, he was, um, working on IRON MAN, and Hasbro called him and said, “Is there a car in the movie?” And he says, “No, it’s IRON MAN. He’s Iron Man.”

Moriarty: He is the car. (laughing)

Joel: “But is there a car?” And he says, “No, he’s Iron Man. He flies around. He’s Iron. Man.” And they said, “Well, could there be a car?” So he says, “No, there is not a car.” So, when he told me the story, I said, “Well, I have a car.” ‘Cause kids like cars. Mattel...

Moriarty: The wall of Hot Wheels for this movie is AMAZING.

Joel: ... but, um, Mattel says their CARS... the Pixar CARS... was huge. Successful... huge... and this idea, this worked out because we were able to give the files of these cars, the computer files of these designs, to Mattel before we started the movie. I mean, they had them even before we started making the picture. So they were able to do a really aggressive, y’know, a program on this, on the Mach 5. They said “It is a white car with a red M, y’know? How do we feel about it?” I said, “We’re going to be fine.” I walked into Toys’R’Us a few days ago, and you walk in and the entire place is just SPEED RACER. I never had... I mean, being a R-rated guy... I’d walk into Toys’R’Us and see THE LION KING or ENCHANTED or some big Disney movie. I’d never see one of our pictures, so to walk in there and see that, and they are telling me a lot of toys for movies, they come out nine weeks before and sit, and people are like “What’s happening? These cars aren’t moving.” And they are like “Wait till the movie opens.” This stuff is going off the shelves now, it’s moving right now. It’s already moving and they’re like, “If this movie works and people go to see it and if it has the effect it seems to have, it will be a success for everyone.”

Moriarty: When I told my friend, this guy who is actually older than me, when I told him that I’d seen the wall at the toy store, and the Mach 5 had a trunk that opens that you could put Spritle and Chim Chim in, he was like, “Okay... I’m buying one. I don’t care... I HAVE to have that.” Cause those are the logical toys they’ve never really done for SPEED RACER fans before.

Joel: As my son would say to me, because I gave my son the show to watch, “Are they gonna have Spritle and Chim Chim in the trunk?” Because he... and by the way, we put them in the trunk because there is one scene where he slams the trunk down with them still in it. You think, “OH MY GOD there is a kid in the trunk! You are leaving him in the Trunk?!” But I mean, that’s the idea. The idea is to, is to take what we love about the show, use that, but then bring it to a whole new audience.

Moriarty: Now, I know that there are a few of these other properties... by the way, Devin from CHUD... I was talking to him, and he told me you confirmed that it looks like JUSTICE LEAGUE is done now... (transcribers note…yay!)

Joel: No. I just said that it seems to be...

Moriarty: ... it’s, uhhh...

Joel: ... postponed.

Moriarty: That’s one of those that... really... I hope that they get it right, rather than get it soon. Um, because these are... how long have you been attatched to SPEED RACER? I know Patrick Reed Johnson, I talked to him about it years and years ago, and he wasn’t the only one who took a shot at it, certainly. It’s been how long?

Joel: Almost 20 years.

Moriarty: That’s amazing, and it feels like you finally found the perfect...

Joel: Look, we struggled with it a long time, and it really... until... y’know, I remember, I...

Moriarty: But you do that with properties. You stick by them, like SGT. ROCK. You have developed that for a long time now...

Joel: I’m going to make that. I’m going to make that very soon. With Guy Ritchie, I think.

Moriarty: Really?!

Joel: I hope so. Yeah, um, but, um, I remember at one point it got close. I mean, there were a lot of people attached to SPEED RACER over the years. Um, no real actors. They never got that close. I remember at one point some production designer was working on something for Julien Temple or somebody. They were designing a car that would cost a million dollars which, at that time, was a huge amount of money, and the car was all going to be chrome, and you could shoot it from any angle. You had to have special lenses. I don’t even know what they were doing, but you know... but the idea of having SPEED RACER with a real car... it could never do what we want the car to do. I mean it couldn’t do that “Car-Fu,” as we are calling it...

Moriarty: That’s so great.

Joel: ... and the reality of being able to do that, to let the car spin in the air and do all those things, and to see the tires re-inflate, and all that stuff that couldn’t exist without the computer, and it couldn’t be done until right now.

Moriarty: To wrap up because I know you’ve had a long day so far... um, I think for a while, a lot of people had an idea of what a Joel Silver film was. Especially, I think, defined by the action stuff you did in the ‘80s and the early ‘90s. Do you feel like you continue to redefine for yourself what a Joel Silver film is? ‘Cause this is a totally different audience than you’ve ever had, and I think it could work. I think they will fall in love with this...

Joel: I mean, I hope so. I hope you are right. I hope you will project that to your vast audience of, uh, of readers and writers. Um, look, I, I, there are things that inspire me. There are things that I want to do. We are starting NINJA ASSASSIN in three weeks, y’know? I always wanted to do a movie like ENTER THE DRAGON. I always wanted to do a full martial arts movie. And since THE MATRIX, I’ve been pushing the guys, the Wachowski brothers, to do something like that because THE MATRIX had a lot of martial arts in it, but it was a much bigger movie, much bigger ideas, like the visual effects... but I want to do, like, a Bruce Lee movie, a really strong martial arts film. And we’re starting that. I mean, Rain is going to be this incredible character. It’s a Ninja movie, it’s full martial arts. It’s fantastic, and I’ve always wanted to do that kind of movie, and I‘ve always talked about it. I’ve just never... I mean, I did ROMEO MUST DIE. I did some martial arts pictures, but never like what I am saying this will be like. I have a lot of interests. I have a lot of things that excite me. So, you know, this ROCKNROLLA movie I just did with Guy Ritchie is fantastic. It is raw, it is funny, it is dark, it is great. It is great. And I liked his first movie, LOCK STOCK, and I liked SNATCH, and I think it’s the best movie he’s ever made. I’ve always wanted to do a movie with him. I mean, I still get excited about things. There are things I still want to do. I don’t know if there is an imprint that I can say, “That is a movie that I made,” but my contribution is in the movie, and I support the boys and it is their vision, you know?

Moriarty: Right.

Joel: But I think I am doing everything I can to make it as good as I can make it. So I got a lot of movies ahead of me. I’ve produced, I think, 55 movies in my life, and I want to keep going till I produce 55 more or whatever, and I wanna just have a lot of stories to tell, and I want to tell them.

Moriarty: I always tell my friends that one of the great geeks spots that you have to visit at some point when you’re in Los Angeles is the waiting room of your office on the Warner lot, with the Predator and the Matrix stuff and all those posters, because it really is crazy when you stand there and you realize everything you’ve had your hands on over the years.

Joel: Well, I am happy that we can keep going. I’ve been doing this, I’ve been there for 22 years. I’ve been there for a long time, and I don’t feel like it’s been that long but... you figure the LETHAL WEAPON movies, the DIE HARD movies. PREDATOR. THE MATRIX. There is a lot of product we’ve done. I’m proud of everything I’ve done... I’m proud of them all, even the ones that didn’t work. I’m proud of them, too, so...

Moriarty: I’m just glad to see you trying new things.

Joel: Sure.

Moriarty: ... because, uh, the nostalgia’s fine, but I love that you are taking a chance on some things like this now.

Joel: And I love that you guys are aggressive with getting people to go to the movies and see what we are doing.

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And before you guys get started yelling at me about the box-office of SPEED RACER over the weekend and why am I still talking about this one and "it's a bomb so move on already"... ... I don’t care. I really don’t. I don’t get vocal about it when something I love makes money, and I don’t cry about it when it doesn’t. All I can do is tell you what I think it genuinely worth seeing and spending time and money on, and I think SPEED RACER is absolutely a bigscreen trip worth taking. And SPEED RACER would overload your eyes and ears in any format, but buying a ticket to see it in IMAX is like buying a ticket to actually step into this candy-colored car-crazy world the Wachowskis have built. SPEED RACER: THE IMAX EXPERIENCE is completely immersive and ridiculously fun. And if you’re absolutely determined to skip it in the theaters, I’m equally determined to keep reminding you just how much fun I think it is. I’m not alone. There are people sending us e-mails like this one all weekend long:
“Harry... I've noticed a lot of negative reactions flying around regarding the Wachowski brother's new Speed Racer film. While everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I never expected there to be a general consensus that Speed Racer was a staggering work of cinematic genius, I feel that many of the reviewers are missing the point entirely. I am forty-eight years old, and I literally grew up watching Speed Racer, and loving every poorly-animated minute of it. Speed was like marijuana...a "gateway" drug that led me to seek out and devour any and all Japanese anime series I could find on television, and there were plenty back in the day: Astro Boy, Marine Boy, Kimba the White Lion, The Amazing Three, The Eighth Man...I loved them all, but Speed was a particular favorite. Why? Perhaps it was my love of race cars that got me hooked. Or perhaps it was the intensity of the action, which was far different than anything any American animation studio was producing at the time. Maybe it was because the gadgetry in the Mach 5 was just way too cool for my sensitive young brain to wrap itself around. Whatever the reason, I was definitely one of Speed's biggest fans. That is why I feel so strongly about Speed Racer the film, and why I think my opinion has value. So without further ado, here are the 'points' I'd like to make to those who didn't like the film. I'm not necessarily trying to change anyone's mind about it, but rather to help them understand why Speed Racer is better and far more important than they are making it out to be: 1) This film is aimed at two primary targets: A) Those (like me) who grew up watching Speed Racer on television and loving it, and B) Kids. Everyone else just isn't all that important. Now I realize that the previous sentence isn't one that a studio exec would utter even under duress, but I don't think the Wachowski's would disagree with it. They are obviously fans of the show, and wanted to do exactly what they wound up doing...bringing the world of Speed Racer to life, and doing it with a love and respect for the source material. Which brings me to point #2: 2) It's a CARTOON, people! Which means that (and I know this is hard to believe) it has to LOOK and FEEL like the cartoon! One of the things that pisses me off the most about Hollywood is that they find a popular book or TV show or whatever that is beloved by millions of people, and, instead of saying "Well, gosh darn it! All of these folks absolutely LOVED this thing because it's just perfect the way it is, so let's just film it exactly that way so we don't disappoint anyone and make a kazillion dollars!" they instead go ahead and say "Well, we could make it even better!" and it tanks at the box office and they don't know why. This is why Speed Racer the film is so groundbreaking: they filmed it to look, sound and feel EXACTLY like the cartoon! Brilliant! Complain all you want about how strange the visuals seem, or how chaotic the race choreography is (though I found it quite easy to follow) or how over-the-top some of the acting is, but that's what made Speed Racer so much fun to watch as a kid. Kids don't care about production values or how mind-blowing the acting is, they just wanna be entertained! 3) Never underestimate the intelligence of your audience, no matter how young they are. Some people (like Capone, who I love with all my Hometown Chicago little heart) complain that the non-action scenes slow the film down too much. What? This is one of the reasons I love this film so much! If you want to fully appreciate Speed's victories, you gotta fully appreciate what he's up against.Yes, Royalton (the villain) does go into quite a lot of detailed information about the nature of the corporation's insatiable desire for money and power and all that, but this ups the stakes for the audience. Speed isn't just racing against a few other drivers, he's racing against entire corporations...corporations who place little or no value on human life and are willing to kill to get what they want. Given the situation in today's world where corporations seem to own and control the very heart of our democracy, this thought is frightening enough. To a kid, it's even more so, and I know because two kids in the audience I saw the movie with came out of the showing mentioning how scary Royalton was. This is another example of what the Wachowski's did right: they didn't talk down to their audience, and I think the film works better for it. 4) Finally, the sense of family that permeates every frame of the film. The Racer family places honor, honesty and fair play above all else, but it's interesting to me that the film never approaches these themes in a preachy manner. It's just there and it feels good that it's there. Once again, these are qualities that seem to be vanishing in our world today, and the fact that they play such an important part in the overall scope of Speed Racer is to me a brave and wonderful thing. Perhaps they won't notice it, but the young kids who will see this film are being given a worthwhile message that I hope will take root somewhere deep inside of themselves and someday bear good fruit. But then again, it's just a movie. right? Well Harry, I could go on, but you get the idea. There is more to Speed Racer than meets the eye, and I hope that eventually it will be seen for what it really is...a film as groundbreaking as The Matrix, but with a heart of gold. Go Speed Racer Go, indeed! If you decide to print this, call me Quasimike!”
So obviously it’s affecting some viewers. I’m also getting plenty of e-mails that read like this, though, to be fair:
“Harry? Are you fucking insane? "...SPEED RACER represents the single greatest “TRIP” on screen since Kubrick’s stargate sequence at the end of 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY.." That's like comparing a shit sandwhich to an expertly prepared Prime Ribwhich lightly toasted on a Sourdough ("mmm Sourdough!") with just the right about of melty Provolone cheese, thinly sliced tomatoes, red onions and Chipotle Mayonnaise! Have you really, seriously, completely gone out of your fucking gourd man?!“
Any movie that inspires passions this strongly is worth discussion in my book, and I hope if I keep prodding, some of you who are resistant will decide to see if I’m right after all. I’ll have another interview tomorrow, with Speed Racer hisself, so I’m not done talking about this one yet. Thanks to Warner Bros and Anne for putting me together with Joel for some one on one time, and to my new intern Saffy for the first of what I hope are many transcriptions. Considering how fast Joel Silver and I both talk, she deserves some sort of combat pay for wading through that recording.


Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles

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  • May 12, 2008, 6:07 a.m. CST

    Uhhhhh, Guy Ritchie???

    by poeticwarriorII

    Is this the right guy for Sgt. Rock?

  • May 12, 2008, 6:08 a.m. CST

    Hey Silver

    by Sebilrazen

    I have some ideas for turning Ultraman into an overpriced franchise, you know where to find me.

  • "Sexual identity is fundamentally used in the service of sexism," says Marx; however, according to Buxton, it is not so much sexual identity that is fundamentally used in the service of sexism, but rather the meaninglessness, and subsequent dialectic, of sexual identity. Lyotard uses the term 'Sontagist camp' to denote the role of the poet as participant. It could be said that Marx uses the term 'dialectic precapitalist theory' to denote a mythopoetical totality. In a sense, Bataille suggests the use of cultural neostructural theory to challenge hierarchy. Foucault's critique of semiotic theory states that reality comes from communication. The main theme of Speed Racer is the defining characteristic, and subsequent absurdity, of dialectic narrativity. The example of subcapitalist narrative depicted in Speed Racer is also evident in Melrose Place. However, the subject is contextualised into a cultural neostructural theory that includes sexuality as a paradox. But if semiotic theory holds, we have to choose between dialectic precapitalist theory and cultural neostructural theory. "Society is unattainable," says Sartre. Bataille uses the term 'semiotic theory' to denote the difference between society and sexual identity. It could be said that Derrida promotes the use of dialectic precapitalist theory to deconstruct society. "Class is a legal fiction," says Baudrillard; however, according to Humphrey, it is not so much class that is a legal fiction, but rather the economy, and some would say the rubicon, of class. Thus, many discourses concerning semiotic theory may be found. In Speed Racer, the Watchowski brothers affirm cultural neostructural theory; in Melrose Place, though, Spelling analyses textual theory. Lyotard uses the term 'dialectic precapitalist theory' to denote not narrative, but postnarrative. The characteristic theme of Pickett's analysis of cultural neostructural theory is the role of the artist as participant. The main theme of Bailey's essay on semiotic theory is a cultural reality. Dialectic precapitalist theory implies that narrativity is used to reinforce the status quo. In a sense, the subject is interpolated into a Lacanist obscurity that includes consciousness as a whole. In the works of the Watchowski brothers, a predominant concept is the distinction between opening and closing. Debord promotes the use of cultural neostructural theory to challenge capitalism. Therefore, Sontag uses the term 'semiotic theory' to denote the role of the writer as poet. The characteristic theme of the works of the brothers is not, in fact, deappropriation, but predeappropriation. If one examines dialectic precapitalist theory, one is faced with a choice: either reject semiotic theory or conclude that the law is intrinsically used in the service of outdated, sexist perceptions of culture. Thus, Marx promotes the use of capitalist neocapitalist theory to attack capitalism. Sartre uses the term 'cultural neostructural theory' to denote the difference between sexual identity and language. Several situationisms concerning the collapse of conceptual society may be found. But de Selby holds that we have to choose between dialectic precapitalist theory and substructural discourse. If cultural neostructural theory holds, the works of Pynchon are empowering. "Class is meaningless," says Foucault; however, according to Werther , it is not so much class that is meaningless, but rather the fatal flaw, and eventually the failure, of class. The subject is contextualised into a semiotic theory that includes art as a paradox. Dialectic precapitalist theory implies that the significance of the reader is significant form. Alternatively, one could argue that Speed Racer is simply a giant piece of crap.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Who is Sgt. Rock?

    by DerLanghaarige

    Help a clueless German. Is this some kind like GI Joe?

  • May 12, 2008, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Damn You Michael Bay

    by MCMLXXVI

    Damn You Michael Bay

  • May 12, 2008, 6:27 a.m. CST

    ALTERED CARBON

    by sagebirt

    Whats happening with that film? Silver bought the rights years ago of this geat book, anyone know?

  • May 12, 2008, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Intern?

    by RenoNevada2000

    You're not going all Bill Clinton on us, are you? ;)

  • May 12, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST

    SPEED RACER #1 at the BO

    by Mace Tofu

    in Korea. Who would of thunk it? I do like what they did with the movie Joel.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:01 a.m. CST

    Wachowski Hatred

    by kgerm

    They make The Matrix and you all praise them as Gods. They finish the series by giving you what you wanted -- two films of insanely epic proportions that are dense with information and emotion...and you shit on them for being too deep or "pretentious." They make Speed Racer and then you hate them for not being deep enough. Make up your minds.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:02 a.m. CST

    um..ahh...like...y'know...errr

    by lex romero

    Seriously you too hardly got any words in between all the umming and arring, it sounded like you were two schoolkids on a first date too nervous to talk to each other.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:04 a.m. CST

    I was with Silver till Guy Ritchie

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    This man pips Richard Kelly by one film before a flop of such gargantuan proportions stopped them dead.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:05 a.m. CST

    Danny Boyle >>>>>>>Guy Ritchie

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    at least Boyles failures are interesting.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Er,no...

    by chuffsterUK

    .....it's NOT a cartoon-it's a film BASED on a cartoon. If they wanted it to look so much like a cartoon,they should have made one. You don't go to see a movie based on a book and expect to see to hours of printed word on the screen!

  • May 12, 2008, 7:15 a.m. CST

    Silver is a great producer....

    by travis-dane

    DAMN!The man produced some of the best action movies ever made!

  • May 12, 2008, 7:18 a.m. CST

    Only Matthew Fox got the characters...

    by m_prevette

    He GOT Racer X and nailed the voice, his performance is the standout in the overstuffed movie. I was waiting for someone else to do at least one breathless rush of dialogue delivery, but no one else really "got" it. I'm 46, I watched Speed each day after school,I salute what everyone tried to do here, but the movie was too long, the plot too confusing, and it was never really funny. Somehow in the last 30 minutes it all DID come together into great moviemaking, but that was at the end of a long, uneven ride.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:19 a.m. CST

    This movie was dull!

    by FILMFUNK

    and when it wasn't waffling on about fixed races and the usual exposition heavy Wakowski Bullshit it was chucking a mental with such a CG overload it seemed intent on making the audience vomit their e-numbers in the aisles. I'm fucking sick of Greenscreen FX overloaded movies!<P>The only OK things in this were the chimp and Susan Sandon, and when it finally ended.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:22 a.m. CST

    DerLanghaarige...

    by poeticwarriorII

    Sgt. Rock is a comic book character set during WWII. He was produced by DC comics so if you're interested you could probably go on their site and find something. It's actually a pretty damn good comic.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    Too bad this thing went down for the count.

    by rbatty024

    Well, I guess it's not too bad. It did get awful reviews after all. I was going to see it despite the reviews but eventually they got to me and I decided to go see Standard Operating Procedure instead. Maybe on DVD Speed Racer.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST

    I Love the Coda

    by Aquatarkusman

    In the words of Dionne Warwick, Elton John, Gladys Knight, and Stevie Wonder, "That's what shills are for!"

  • "Oh, I'd say about 9:30 last night."

  • May 12, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST

    MCMLXXVI...

    by BiggusDickus

    Don't you think it's getting a little tired now, fella?<p>Have you not got anything else to contribute? Come on, I'll make it easy for you. "Speed Racer is shit!" There. Your turn...

  • May 12, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Even Harry has bailed on Speed Racer:

    by fiester

    Notice his Speed Racer GIF vanished about the same time the weekend box office results started making the rounds. Coincidence?

  • May 12, 2008, 7:41 a.m. CST

    Instead of Speed Racer...Wacky Races!

    by BiggusDickus

    Now that would've worked!

  • May 12, 2008, 7:45 a.m. CST

    Guy Richie:

    by fiester

    I would not trust anyone who thought it was a good idea to marry Madonna with anything. Their sense of judgment is obviously fatally flawed.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Wacky Races

    by Mace Tofu

    I'd go see it lol.

  • "the Mach 5 had a trunk that opens that you could put Spritle and Chim Chim in...Cause those are the logical toys they’ve never really done for SPEED RACER fans before. " Sorry but that was done a decade ago at the Resaurus toy company and that is still the best Mach 5 toy ever produced.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:56 a.m. CST

    I Totally Loved It & IMAX Is Def. the Way To Go

    by LaserPants

    Its a shame that this didn't become a blockbuster, but its doing okay. I'm sure it will turn a decent profit eventually with overseas and dvd and the like. Like I said, I totally loved it, but thats because I love the show, and really LOVED it as a kid. I think if ur not all that into the concept, it won't fly. This is a cult movie all the way; a cult movie on a blockbuster budget. I really wish everyone would stop hating and give it a chance, but, oh well. When the blu-ray comes out and everybody's watching at home and orgasming about how amazing it looks, and regretting that you skipped IMAX, remember that ur chance is NOW! Go see it. If you love insane psychedelic pop art and over-the-top lunatic action, see it. SEE IT!

  • May 12, 2008, 7:58 a.m. CST

    I Have The New 1:24 Scale Hot Wheels MACH 5

    by LaserPants

    The real nice $25 one? All die cast and pro and collectory. Its a beauty.

  • May 12, 2008, 8 a.m. CST

    On the Cartoon Network This Weekend

    by Aquatarkusman

    About 199,000 commercials for Speed Racer toys. Like kids are going to know who the fuck this is (it hasn't been on in national syndication for years, as far as I can tell) apart from the movie, which they apparently aren't seeing.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Speed Racer - Future classic

    by dastickboy

    Saw it Friday night, with just myself and girlfriend, plus some other couple in the entire cinema. (although that was down to the cinema screwing up their listing). So it was difficult to gauge what the larger audience would think of this film, but I for one loved it. It's clearly a devisive film, moreso having seen it. Having not seen the original show I can easily relate to the "live-action anime" nature of the film, but also the Wachowskis have built on this and it's much more a film of multiple layers. I think this is where a lot of people will be turned off, as that first layer is all blazing colour and hyper-kinetic action, and at times it can be dizzying. But the plot with Royalton, which in turn establishes the Pops/Rex story definitely puts some meat on the bones, and continues to add weight to Speed's actions and to a larger degree the message of family that's continually referred to (but not pounded into) the entire story. It really is a shame that this film won't be seen by all as there are some unbelievable shots throughout the film that do confirm this film as a work of art. I defy anyone to watch the final sequence of Speed racing down the final straight, (Giacchino's music built to a climax) as the lights blaze onto Speed's crash helmet in close-up and say that it's not future piece of pop iconography.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:02 a.m. CST

    I have to wait 'till June 6th for IMAX

    by Mace Tofu

    but plan to catch it tonight at a regular theater.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:02 a.m. CST

    This movie blew my fucking mind

    by Iamagoodguy

    And people who have not seen it, don't to the reviews. Go see it and make up your own mind.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:04 a.m. CST

    Speed Racer = awesome movie that stodgy critics don't get

    by Rindain

    Judging by the reactions of my 4:20 pm Saturday audience (a mix of all ages), this movie could have great word of mouth. The critics just don't seem capable of accepting the cartoon/anime aesthetic. Too bad for them.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:05 a.m. CST

    doomed since first trailer

    by darth rod

    Push it all you want, this movie is polarizing, after the first trailer that was it, you either liked the over the top look or you hated it. The mayority plain hated the fake hyper stylized look, and thats all there is to this movie, lots of style zero substance. The problem is that if is it suposed to be a family movie, why the punishing length? where are the jokes for adults? where are the characters to care abaout? Next time if the producers are invoking pixar as a template, pay atention it ain't the visuals that sells tickets, it's a good story and solid characters, things that are sorely missing with this one.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:13 a.m. CST

    In time people will come to enjoy Speed Racer for its aesthetics

    by Shub-Wankalot

    Critics panned the Eastwood spaghetti westerns back in its day, but now make a complete reversal in their view. Time will forgive Speed Racer

  • May 12, 2008, 8:14 a.m. CST

    To put it simply, this film is

    by Paulseta

    nearly as bad as being strapped down and being force-fed neon glowing liquid gopher shit again and again... and when you pass out a giant monkey kicks you in the balls until you wake up screaming, and then more shit is sprayed into your mouth, but this time from an incontinent skunk. Shortly after that, two massive airhorns are constantly and repeated blasted into your ears while a donkey with AIDS spits in your face, multiple spotlights and focused at you blinking on and off, while rancid onions are peeled under you eyes and then shoved up your nose. At the same time, Stephen Hawking reads Harry Potter in backwards order while you are sodomized by a retarded elephant that keeps drooling on the back of your head. Then repeated for 2 hours and 20 minutes.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    It was pretty damn cool.

    by AgentArchangel

    The Wachowskis had the guts to make a living, breathing comic book/cartoon, and they had the guts to go all out with the visuals. It's crazy, it's hyper kinetic and super colorized, and you get to see cars do things they were not meant to do on God's green earth. Plus in IMAX, the film's just amazing. Still, liking this film is dependent on a person's inner child, so if that inner child is gone then save your money and go see something else. If you're open to a fun popcorn movie, then by all means this is the film for you.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:26 a.m. CST

    A question for Joel

    by Luscious.868

    Joel, with the cinematic abortions that were the Matrix sequels and now speed racer, how many more box office disasters will the brothers be allowed to perpetrate upon you before you stop allowing them to make films?

  • May 12, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST

    Harry and Mori are clearly on the take. They rarely ever contin

    by Luscious.868

    They are clearly being paid to try and get people to see this turdfest or they wouldn't continue to promote it after it's opening weekend.<br> <br> <b>Do not waste your money on this film.</b>

  • May 12, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST

    Wow that was interesting

    by godzillasushi

    You know, I completely agree. If you reviewed the reviews for the movie you would find a lot of people are probably out of touch. It's like, until younger people become more prominent in that way, these movies will always be cast aside. CGI seems to be a negative for those older writers, no matter the context. I think when people complain about the movie they stifle the creativity we all want. Those are probably the same people that hate remakes, etc. But they are facilitating that by trashing anything that's different. We don't get many movies that take chances throughout the year. This is rare.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:41 a.m. CST

    I'm going to disagree with those who say this is generational.

    by rbatty024

    I haven't seen Speed Racer so I can't speak to the quality of the film. However, I can note that similar films that make use of CGI and green screen did well with these old stodgy critics. Sin City, Sky Captain, and 300 (even though I personally hated it) all received favorable reviews. I think critics are more open than you think. It's not the technique they're attacking, it's how it was implemented. I actually like what I've seen of Speed Racer, but the reviews have given me pause.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST

    Wacky Races...

    by TroutMaskReplicant

    I'd love to make a live action Wacky Races film and actually make it good. The Wacky race film has yet to have it's finest hour I think. Like sure there's the Cannonball Run films and Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines, but there could be so much more!

  • May 12, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST

    A question for Luscious.868

    by BartholomewNeff

    So we all have to like what you do or we're on the take? I was never a fan of the show and only knew the theme song and not much else before going to see this. I loved it. It's sweet. It's genuine. It's trippy. I had a blast. Several of my friends and I saw it over the weekend, none of them knew what to expect and they all loved it. I've never seen anything like it. Not everyone has your tast Luscious and I think Moriarty explained exactly why he liked it. I'm wondering if you've even seen it or perhaps you are one of those countless people that rag something without ever even seeing it. If you don't like it, fine. Others do. Joel Silver attepted to make a family film here and he's done it. It's not for everyone, it's totally different than anything we've seen before and if you don't like it don't watch it. But I have a feeling you've already done that anyway.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:47 a.m. CST

    RE: rbatty024

    by godzillasushi

    It's a good point you make. But in the same way, those three movies you listed seem to be pretty different from Speed Racer. Hard to lump them all together. They are attacking how it's implemented. Definitely. But at least it's something different. And they don't seem to be giving very good reasons for not liking it. To say it's candy-colored-this, or cotton-candy-that doesn't do anyone any favors. They give reasons, but not very good ones IMO. Still, you bring up a great point about other GS movies. Much more adult skewing movies, but GS nonetheless.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Box Office numbers don't mean anything...

    by The Curious Dr Humpp

    ... until you realize what they represent: audience interest in a particular film. So in Speed Racer's case: nobody seemed to care. Not even during opening weekend. Which is kind of odd for such a heftily marketed film. Then again, my guess is Warners pretty much expected this kind of turnout for Speed Racer, as this film tracked extremely poorly these past weeks. The receipts are likely to fall 50 to 60% next weekend, after which the film will disappear into oblivion. Which, in my honest opinion, is exactly where it belongs. There are probably some countries in Asia where it'll do reasonably well, but Speed Racer being succesful in Europe would be like American Football or baseball becoming popular over here. It's just not gonna happen. So there. Think what you will about the B.O. numbers, they're just saying what most people are thinking: this film just isn't worth your time and money. It won't become a cult classic. It won't be 'rediscovered' and appreciated in the future. It'll die a silent death and that'll be the end of it. Sorry.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Nah, Its Already This Generations TRON

    by LaserPants

    I think SPEED RACER already has cult status. Its not going to last in the mainstream (cept amongst kids, especially when its on dvd), but as cult pop-art explosion, it will live on. Sort of like TRON. That 'bombed' too. Now its a beloved cult classic.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:08 a.m. CST

    yeah, but...

    by Shoegeezer

    ...Tron was a good movie, a family movie not something aimed squarely at kids and obese adults.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:11 a.m. CST

    The New Tron or this weeks

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Superman Returns. Most people think it's gabage, but it's supporters claim it will be seen as a classic years later, but then years later most people still think it's awful.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:12 a.m. CST

    I hope this doesn't stop the Wachowskis

    by Samuel Fulmer

    from making a Laugh-O-Lympics movie. Scooby Doobies all the way!

  • May 12, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST

    Keep talking dipshits, I'm going twice

    by g-ride9000

    I like this movie, even the crony parts. Why, because I'm a corny little kid inside. Are you? It's also because I love my family and think about the times my dad supported me even though I was an insubordinate teen. So who cares if it bombs. They'll make a martial arts film, Ironman IV will upset most of you due to it's similarity to the first, and people will still pan this crazy, sweet, wild film.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:18 a.m. CST

    Superman is no speed racer

    by g-ride9000

    All the complaints about Superman were based on the fact that it disregarded the source and it was visually unoriginal and flat. Speed racer is being shunned for being way to close to the original material (stilted dialog, anime look) and being way to original.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Totally Agree, G-Ride9000

    by LaserPants

    I totally agree and I can totally relate to being that corny little kid on the inside. And I'm going to see it at IMAX again before it disappears.<br><br> Shoegeezer, I'm not a kid, and not an obese adult. I'm in my 30s, have a job and house and a girlfriend and totally completely and utterly loved this movie. Seems to me that opinion is pretty much a 50/50 split. Either you love it or hate it.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    If it's a kids movie, why is it 2 hour 15 minutes?

    by robogeek.com

    Unfortunately, the movie's about half an hour too long for a family film, which really hurts it. (This alone may have cut its earning potential in half.) Plus, to work as a family film you have to connect with moms, and the marketing almost went out of its way to alienate moms with its (perceived) freakiness and male-centricity... oh, and then it's released on Mother's Day weekend? Wow. I can't help but wonder if anyone running this (sinking) ship is a parent (particularly a mom), but then again we are talking about the studio whose production chief has been accused of fostering institutionalized sexism (I refer you to Robinov's infamous alleged statement that Warners will no longer make movies with female leads). But I digress...

  • May 12, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    Speed Racer > Superman Returns

    by LaserPants

    Especially if you love the characters. SPEED RACER is pretty much a dead-on translation of the show in terms of the characters, tone, and generalized insanity. I mean, yeah, the races and cars reflect a retro-modeled superfuture version of same, but one that seemed right in step with the show. It immediately captured and held my inner 5 year old in rapture for its entirety. <br><br>Superman Returns, on the other hand, seemed more about Singer's raging gay-emo-martyr complex. The Supes of SR wasn't Supes, he was some whiny, wanky, too skinny Waif of Steel, or Metrosexual of Steel. AND a stalker AND a dead beat dad to boot! Superman's not about angst, he's about optimism and universal justice from a thankfully friendly space-man-god. Superman Returns was, from a fan of the character's standpoint, a disaster. In contrast, as a life long fan of the show and character, Speed Racer hit all my buttons perfectly.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST

    RE: Shoegeezer

    by godzillasushi

    What a dumb thing to say. Really. Why you would come to that conclusion, then grace us all with your thoughts is beyond me. I know the internet is this anonymous place where anyone can lay ignorant comments out but give me a break. Does the movie bother you enough to insult anyone who saw it? Geeze...I get sick of that crap man.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    TroutMaskReplicant...

    by BiggusDickus

    Absolutely. And if a live-action Wacky Races film is too mainstream for the sniffy, oh-so-intellectual pseuds out there, I for one would take a Bailey's Comet's movie.<p>We could even have Christina Ricci in hotpants. Again.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    So Joel

    by Series7

    How many marketing people are going to lose their jobs because of this flopping? Seriously, that was my question after leaving the film. Don't get me wrong I really liked the film and think its a much bigger achievement in film then Iron Man (come on, who didn't leave Iron Man thinking, Jesus Christ 3-Spidermans/X-Men's 2-FF, a Daredevil and Ghost Rider later and they finally get it spot on). I felt that way because this movie is was going to get its money from 12-18 year old kids, and grow men who still enjoy kids movies. The problem is that anyone over 14 thinks that this movie is too childish for them, and kids under 14 can't convice their parents to drive them to it. Though really this movie should be aimed at everyone. Its better then Alvin and the Chipmunks, Transformers and Horton Hears a Who combined. But the marketing sucked, and it really was no ones fault. I think they did the best job they could. The only problem was they didn't get John Goodman out their. I never saw his ass on any of the couches last week. And he's gotta be in every late night host top ten favorite guest (he was on Conan's first show?), he loves to host SNL (SHIA????). He is one of America's most likable actors, and yet, I bet for the most part no one knew he was in the film. No one gives a shit yet about Emile, and Ricci isn't that big a draw either. I guess the big man, who man Flinstons (a very VERY similar movie) a success over 10 years ago, couldn't strike gold twice.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Tron is probably worse than Speed Racer...

    by TroutMaskReplicant

    No sane person could say that the visuals in Tron aren't great and memorable, but the story telling was half assed. The first half hour of the movie is about boring corporate espionage! It's a shame that Tron could only be a cult movie and no more. Actually I think one of the special effects guys for Tron is having a lecture near me. I should go see it.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    E.T.'s running time is 120 minutes

    by DerLanghaarige

    Same with The Incredibles and who could forget the almost epic runtime of the Harry Potter movies? So if you are attacking Speed Racer for being "too long for a kids movie", you better look for another target. :)

  • May 12, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    hahahaha boring corprete espionage

    by g-ride9000

    so you don't like mamet either!

  • May 12, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    In time people will enjoy Speed Racer 4 its aesthetics

    by quantize

    Oh yeh? like what? Like Moulin Rouge, which was similarly hyper real gaudy design and hackneyed melodrama? I dont think so....nooooooooo

  • May 12, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    BTW Mori:

    by DerLanghaarige

    Almost every movie inspires passions this strongly. Just take your average Adam Sandler-comedy and see how the opinions go from "The funniest movie of the year" to "I didn't even smiled for one second".<br> I know what you mean, but basically every movie is loved and hated that much, only that most of these movies aren't designed to be the potential Summerblockbuster of the year.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Paulseta, you are batshit

    by g-ride9000

    crazy, and learn to use the<P><P><P>< P > function just take out the spaces

  • May 12, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    Guy Ritchie? URRRRRRRRRGH.

    by Steve Rogers

    His movies are shit on toast.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    I expected to HATE it.

    by cinemixtape.com

    And I fucking loved it. I kind of hate myself for enjoying it so much. On paper, everyone involved with it would make for a film experience from hell, at least for me. But I seriously had a great time. Fuck the critics. This film has heart and thrills to spare. This was so much more fun than that derivative, over-hyped current blockbuster, also known as Iron Man. GO SEE IT. I wish I could see it in Imax.

  • May 12, 2008, 10 a.m. CST

    Silver should get Bale as "Rock" or STALLONE

    by ABking

    I mean, if Silver wanted to solve the problem of SGT.ROCK the movie getting flack for an all American character like Rock being hated on by foreign audience, he would have waited for Arnie to come back and use the old idea of Sgt.Rock being half American half German. But Arnie is governor and Silver wants to rush SGT.ROCK...given that...Christian "T4" Bale would do a great job. I'd say Stallone too but Silver would do better to ask Sly to direct SGT.ROCK and make it a bad ass war film in the vien of the last RAMBO film...ah well, I at least have the Rambo trilogy and Predator!

  • May 12, 2008, 10:11 a.m. CST

    ABKING

    by chuffsterUK

    RAMBO trilogy? I thought you were a fan-for one,there are four films featuring Rambo,two,if it was still a trilogy,surely it would be the First Blood trilogy?

  • May 12, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    It's a great movie

    by Kraken

    But even I was REALLY skeptical going in. But the movie was a thrill ride. It really upsets me that people aren't even giving this one a shot. It's the kind of movie you really have to see in the theater to get the full experience.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    Apologizing for Speed Racer I see

    by jimmy_009

    Sorry, but this was a giant dud from the get go. The only people that would want to sit through that eye rape are those that have already had their brain rotted by Japanese mind rot already. No thanks, give me Iron Man anyday.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Guy Ritchie is a horrible fucking choice...

    by Sledge Hammer

    ...for Sgt Rock. And have you seen his last couple of films? Talk about flash in the pan. The man is on a bigger downward spiral than Michael Jackson. I think being married to (pri)Madonna has sucked any creativity right out of the man, and probably much of his will to live as well. And anyway, the last thing an icon like Sgt Rock needs is an "oh-so-hip" directorial approach. Maybe he'll surprise me, but honestly, I dread this choice.<p>As for who should play Rock, I'd say Kiefer Sutherland. He's the right age, he's got the right kind of gravelly voice, and we know he can convince as a stoic, never-say-die 'man of action'. He'd be my choice anyway.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST

    Kraken

    by Series7

    Yeah totally agree about, its a theater experience. People are like, well I'll wait for DVD. Seriously? Unless you got a sweet Blu-Ray set up this movie will be lacking on the small screen (just like Sunshine). But I mean these are the same people that will be first in line for the upcoming Sandler movie. Nothing agahinst Sandler movies, but they play the same at home/on my Zune/or at the theater. Speed won't.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Saw it... Enjoyed it.

    by Rando Calrisian

    So far the Summer is 2 for 2. I wasn't even a big SR fan, but went for the experience. This is the kind of movie that needs to be seen in a theater. It's fun, loud cinematic candy. What's not to like? <br> <br> After the movie, kids were running up and down the theater halls making vroom-vroom sounds, crashing into eachother and giggling the whole time. <br> <br> Seems some people can't just let go and be entertained. If you went into this film expecting great cinema, or high art - you kind of missed the point. This is bold, flashy and kind of reminded me of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in parts (Gene Wilder version, thank you). A good, strong, family film, that will be enjoyed by little boys for many years to come.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:55 a.m. CST

    Rando...

    by Aquatarkusman

    "After the movie, kids were running up and down the theater halls making vroom-vroom sounds, crashing into eachother and giggling the whole time." Either that was the worst endorsement of all time, or a brilliant passive-aggressive/sarcastic insult.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    The length of the movie is a problem

    by Series7

    Because unlike E.T. and Harry Pots, the trailers make it come off as a zany WAKA WAKA Pokemon cartoon and parents aren't going to want to sit through 2 hours of that. They are saving their kids to the movie time for next week with Narnia, which plays out like a movie Adults could enjoy. This movie comes off looking like Torqued which scares older people away. I mean think of any one you know over 20, yeah they can be down for 300 or Iron Man, but neo-color looking happy fun time? Thats the main problem with the film, its immpossible to market. Its just one of those, you gotta see it. Just like trying to get your friends to see U23D, none of them wanted to pay $11 to see a U2 concert in a movie theater, but had they gone they would've realized how cool it was. They should have sold Speed Racer more toward adults. Adults would have seen it and realized that they could bring their kids.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST

    I'm just saying the kids got the "point"

    by Rando Calrisian

    Aparently, Aquatarkusman, you don't remember having fun watching cartoons as a kid. Or acting out, and expressing that fun you just had experiencing something you'd never seen before. The kids in the theater ate this movie up. They were cheering at the end, and continued laughing and cheering outside of the theater. When was the last time you ran around pretending to be a race car... too long, aparently.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:04 a.m. CST

    DerLanghaarige

    by darth rod

    E.T. was successful in 1982 but flash forward 20 years and the rerelease bombed at the box office. tastes change through time. The Incredibles was aimed to all targets of the family, Speed Racer is just aimed at male children and fans of the series, neglecting as it has been said: the mothers, sisters, teens, fathers. Harry Potter has a huge installed fan base, that guarantees it success.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Guy

    by CuervoJones

    I don´t like MTV directors or Tarantino wannabes like him.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    I'm over 20, and I enjoyed the flick

    by toadkillerdog

    Marketing be damned. If I want to see a movie - regardless of the marketing or reviews, i will do so. <p> If a movie is good, it will find an audience - sooner or later. <p> Perhaps that audience will be the DVD market and not at the theater. <p>

  • May 12, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    ET rerelease bombing

    by Samuel Fulmer

    Would probably have to do with the fact that it doesn't have the same following as something like Star Wars, but I also think the hardcore film fans weren't happy when they found out about the Walkie/Talkies and C.G.I. ET that wasn't needed.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Go Speed Racer!

    by greenstyle92

    Go Speed Racer! Go Speed Racer GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!<br> <br> Thanks mori. I KNEW I wasn't crazy for liking this movie! Although Yackbacker brings up another possibility! Maybe I AM spiritually enlightened! Yay!

  • May 12, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    The hate makes me want to see it more

    by Harry Weinstein

    Buying two tickets for this in IMAX while I still can, one for me and one for whoever I can actually convince to go see this beautiful catastrophe. The seven minutes that turned up online sold me on the film - and the largely condescending tone adopted by the people who hate the film sealed the deal. It's clearly the most batshit insane slice of utter madness to come from a major studio since FREDDY GOT FINGERED - and like FGF, a lot of the hate is apparently coming from folks who either didn't see it or didn't understand it, or both. Look at those numbers - clearly, not many people actually DID see it. The overly literal-minded needn't bother (and were clearly not invited to this party in the first place).

  • May 12, 2008, 11:16 a.m. CST

    I enjoyed it too

    by MattmanReturns

    Speed Racer was very entertaining, and that's all I expected of it. It also had some hilarious stuff in it, like the ninja fight.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Cuervo Jones

    by DerLanghaarige

    I wouldn't call Ritchie a Tarantino wannabe. He isn't constantly ripping off/stealing scenes from movies, that are now known as "Grindhouse" movies and even has his own, pretty unique visual style. (Yes, I know, quick cuts and stuff like that isn't really unique, but he has his own way to use them.)<br> And while I definitely won't defend everything he made (Snatch was okay, but just Lock Stock V2.0 and I avoided Swept Away till today), calling him a Tarantino wannabe, just because he made mostly movies about gangsters, is bullshit.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Please give it a Chance

    by bravojo

    I saw this yesterday with my 6 year old son. We were already big fans owning all the toys and entire series so he knew all about it. This movie is so worth your money. Having seen Iron man last week and Speed Racer this week, there was actually more substance to Speed Racer. The visuals should not be the only reason you don't go see this. there is a really good story and great acting happeing inside those crazy visuals! Matthew Fox looks like he stepped out of the cartoon as Racer X. He nailed that performance the way Christopher Reeve nailed Superman! When people say this movie has a lot of heart, you can't understand that until you see the family dinamic of the film. In this sinacle world, where family doesn't hold the place it once did, this movie dares to offer a little glimps of the togetherness and perseverance a family can achieve. If you look up to your dad or bibg brother or wish you could this movie will put a tiny lump in your throat.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    The good news for those who liked this flick:

    by fiester

    Is you'll be able to see it again for $1.00 next week at the cheap theater on a double bill with Drillbit Taylor.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST

    MattmanReturns - TV characters that should be killed

    by toadkillerdog

    I just chuckled through the whole thing, and Chim Chim cracked me the hell up. <p> Sprittle was anoying, but he was annoying in the cartoon as well. <p> There are many TV/movie characters that should be killed before they are ever allowed to cause any more trouble.<p> When I was a child, my top three where: Sprittle <p> Giligan <p>Dr. Smith.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:52 a.m. CST

    Speed Racer and the Walmart deal...

    by DarkCouncilus

    Shit, It's SAD to see all those aisles and counters full of unsold SR crap at Walmart: cups, candy, toys, clothes, etc.... bet it was the idea of a Inner-children Speed Racer Yaysayer to greenlight that deal. The Speed Racer movie, a "pop masterpiece with a hint of nostalgia" (aka shameless denial) that bombed as a business in every conceivable way.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Going wednesday....

    by Quake II

    I've been on call all weekend so no movies but this wednesday I am taking my 6 year old...I will solve the mystery of Speed Racer in 3 days (the mystery is "Does it suck or rock?")

  • May 12, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer = an awful movie that people denied

    by DarkCouncilus

    Expect a desperate for money special edition DVD in two months.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    I'm starting to think there are TWO Speed Racer movies

    by greenstyle92

    out there. Obviously I, Moriarty, Harry, and several other talkbackers saw the GOOD one. The one with cool action and great characters. But there must be the OTHER Speed Racer movie out there that Capone and 65% of the Rotten Tomatoes critics and several talk backers saw and MOST talk backers who haven't seen talk about that was really sucky and weak or something. That's the only way to explain it, because I have no idea how people can hate this movie!

  • May 12, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    The only problem with it Speed Racer is it's too long

    by ck37

    I thought the movie was amazing to watch visually. The story was great but just went on and on. If they cut about a half hour off the film kids and parents would even love it more. Look any parent knows kids won't sit there in theater seats for two hours without being bored or anxious. The producers should know this. It will probably fair better on DVD, but it is a shame it's getting crucified in the reviews. It is a good movie.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    It was a very good movie.

    by Toonol

    And the Tron comparisons are totally correct. Tron bombed at the box office, but is iconic. In ten years, everybody will own Speed Racer on Blu-Ray.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer killed Iron Man for me

    by Hikaru Ichijo

    Iron Man looks cool, but doesn't need my help, so I took mom to Speed Racer. I figure as a kid I made her sit through hours and hours of it anyhow, so what's two more? We both really enjoyed it. Super hero flicks, on the other hand, are getting really old. Every new superhero flick comes out to the highest praise and gradually becomes annoying, thus necessitating the next one, and they're all pretty much the same. I like Samuel L. too, but that move makes me think the flick is actually NOT getting things the way they should. I want a proper superhero flick like we've never been offered, and I think Speed Racer is the closest thing yet. People that haven't seen Speed Racer, but are already drawing comparisons to Iron Man are actually hurting their film, since there CAN'T be any comparison. It should be taken on it's own merit, and if you haven't seen it, I promise you have no idea what you're talking about. I'm headed to an IMAX screen before it's too late, while Iron Man is sounding more and more like something that I'll learn to take for granted on a 72" flat screen.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Thanks Joel et al.

    by vaterite

    Watching speed racer made me incredibly happy. That's all that needs to be said. I am sorry for you if you can't enjoy it.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:18 p.m. CST

    Wachowskis killed Speed Racer for good.

    by DarkCouncilus

    End of the road apologists, no matter how much you want to flip this movie flop (claiming it's instant cult classic, a pop iconography, masterpiece with a hint of nostalgia or whatever) you can't force people (specially through this website) into suddenly liking it. Tell how good this bomb is to those involved (that are not the Wachowski Bros.) that are more likely to have their careers and jobs run over by it's failure.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    Haunted Tank?

    by diverdan

    If Sgt Rock does get made it'd be nice to see the Haunted Tank and its crew in it even if it is just a drive through.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    How many apologists does it take for SR to be a success?

    by DarkCouncilus

    None, that shipped has sailed.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Good point Darkcouncils

    by ganymede3010

    I can't believe that AICN is pushing this movie. Despite that, the numbers still sucked.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Here's the thing I've noticed Darkcouncils

    by greenstyle92

    First off, I think all the fans of the movie admit that that ship has sailed. We are dealing with it fine.<br> <br> What I've noticed is the Bashers just love to shove the RT score and box office in our face, then get flummoxed when the vocal 1/3 minority say "fuck that, it was still great." and all continue to high-five each other and celebrate the movie and Moriarty posts interviews and such. It's YOU guys who won't let it go, just keep saying "It sucks! It sucks! Why won't you guys give it up, it sucks!" It's a little bit like the end of Grinch who stole Christmas, that way. You know, you're sure you've broken the film, but the whos down in whosville just keep celebrating it anyway. Though I'm sure "Your heart growing 3 sizes" won't happen, though we kinda hope it will. Instead, you keep trying to find ways to still convince us that it sucked.<br> <br> Face it dude. You lost. We won. The movie is awesome. deal with it.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    UnknownUser

    by Series7

    Whatever Polaski got an Oscar. And his thing is more well known the the Tranny thing. Even though I guess the girl is "over it", he never got in trouble for what he did.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    WB - "Unfortunately it didn't perform to our expectations"

    by DarkCouncilus

    How is that damage control? <p> Dude should learn from the AICN's inner-children cult on how to properly turn a phrase, "This year's TRON!" now that is denial level that I'm talking about.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    speed racer not the equal of tron

    by bacci40

    why did tron become a cult classic? because as pc's became widespread,and video game consules showed up in peoples homes, everyone finally understood the lingo of the film...it surpassed the geek culture that originally fell over itself for the flick...speed racer aint the same...its a kids film that kids dont get...2 hr plus movies dont become cult classics..there wont be word of mouth, because tracking numbers say there wont...i hope that bitch silver loses his job over this...fuck him....this movie was a mess, and not one of you can make me change my opinion...and i was one of the kids that used to run home after school to make sure i didnt miss an epi...oh, and let me add this...it is well apparent that the wachowskis never watched speed as kids...they probably didnt first see it until their 20s...there is no sense of nostalgia anywhere in the movie..and thats another reason it blows...so fuck off generation x and y, you have made the world of entertainment a shit place to be in

  • May 12, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST

    UnknownUser

    by Series7

    Yeah i know. Viva la France. Just saying. Most celeberties do fucked up shit. I mean look at Bert.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST

    UnknownUser, there's one big thing your...

    by poeticwarriorII

    missing out on here. Short Round had far more personality and acting ability compared to TheQueef. His character was also not some contrived forced smarmy bastard son popping up out of nowhere. We all saw how that turned out for supes.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    Um this um, I mean, you know, ummm

    by Underoos Hero

    Like this interview, umm kinda, you know, made my head hurt, and umm it was kinda like umm, well, I really had to stop reading it after the umm second question because umm. FOR GOD'S SAKE DID YOU REALLY HAVE TO TRANSLATE THE INTERVIEW VERBATIM?!!!!!!! FUCKS SAKE MAN!!!!!!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Saw it.

    by Laserhead

    Wooden acting, ridiculously flat characterization, a dull, dull story, and most importantly, the action was not well done-- it just looked like a giant videogame, no sense of danger or threat or even consequence to any of it. If your inner child is moved by this, then I feel pity for your inner child, because your inner child is a retarded monkey who is pleased by the mere presence of bright colors and loud noises.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    I do BELIEVE there is a GREAT FUTURE in the LIVING CARTOON.

    by JDanielP

    Yeah, I "was" going to take the wife and kid on this family outing, with "SPEED RACER" being kid friendly...and the visual style being especially interesting (to me). But between the majority of the reviews and my wife being resistant, having little interest (in it) herself, I gave my young son the choice between "SPEED RACER" and the local fast-food Playland. (Guess which one he chose.) And it's funny...because I've been unusually resistant to the negative reviews. Maybe it's because I'm a believer in this technology...while I also figure my young son will enjoy it. --In my mind's eye, I've long been miles ahead of this blending and morphing of both (digital) film and computer animation. I even see a day when live action will be morphed/altered into artistic style (unique styles at that) and perhaps even imitating the work of famous artists, living or dead. But based on how this movie hasn't opened well, it may only reinforce the belief that live action and computer generated imagery (CGI) should remain as separated as possible. (Movies like "TRANSFORMERS" and "IRON MAN" do a great job of bridging the gap with practical effects...though, to be fair, "SPEED RACER" looks to be something else entirely, like a living cartoon.) I can't help but wonder if computer technology will bring us closer to a more life-like cartoon before Hollywood finds true success in such blending of the real and the unreal, as "SPEED RACER" obviously tries to do. Anyway, I want to give special thanks to those whom shared their more positive experiences with "SPEED RACER", despite the negative press. I'm very tempted to take the wife and son on a surprise outing next weekend. From what I understand, if my wife can get even a little amusement out of "B.C." (which I passed over), she could most certainly make it through the "SPEED RACER" whirlwind for a couple of hours. (heh,heh) I'm not tellin' 'em! I'm just takin' 'em! (hahahahahaha)

  • Which makes me that what Moriarty and others saying is right - that it really is only for fans of the show and kids, for better or for worse. I plan on checking this out on Imax this week, with expectaitions firmly in check.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    *of the show

    by wash

  • May 12, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Just Curious Mori

    by oogabooga

    If you had posted a review last week saying you thought it was a piece of shit would you still have gotten to interview Joel Silver??

  • May 12, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    Sgt. Rock will fail and here's why

    by ArcadianDS

    It will be in Iraq during the Kuwait Liberation War. The character of Sgt. Rock will be a weasly 'i dont like my country much, but its my duty and it beats painting houses' kind of guy. The 'bad guy' will be a Republican Senator from Tennessee (or they'll just refer to him as Senator and not even pin a state to him) who shows up near the end to reveal that the whole war was just an effort to get re-elected, and then Sgt. Rock punches his face. Also, it will suck because some schlub will spend 30% of the movie doing his best Rob Schneider impression.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    There is more than enough plastic and metal from SR paraphernali

    by DarkCouncilus

    To make a very neat metal case for the Speed Racer DVD special edition, which most likely will be out in 2 months or less.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    SR - Domestic $18,561,337, Foreign: $12,600,000

    by DarkCouncilus

    This bomb left charred chunks of "pop masterpiece with hints of nostalgia" all over the place. SAD.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Oogabooga...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... I interviewed him before I posted a review, but it's not about "would I have been allowed?" I turn down interviews all the time for films I don't believe in. I made the choice to go to Long Beach because I had seen the movie and wanted to offer it further support. I'm offered far more things to do than time will allow, so I'm the one doing the picking and choosing.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Unknown User...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... thanks for playing, but you're a big fat liar! No set visit! No ILM trip! And if you think an interview that I had to drive two hours on the 405 to do is a "special treat," you are a goddamn moron. That Film Threat hit piece did exactly NOTHING to us because it was a personally motivated piece of printed spite. I hear the author of the piece has a lovely career now in the cocksucking-for-money business, since he's definitely not doing any work online anymore. So, to quote Speed Racer, "Keep that weak shit off my track."

  • May 12, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Yeesh, Those Numbers Are Not Good

    by LaserPants

    Wow. I really loved the movie, really wish it would catch on, but it doesn't look good. Oh well, I'm definately going to see it on IMAX one more time before it disappears. Man, I really wish this would go over big, but it just didn't. Its just too weird, experimental, extreme, super happy / naive, and obscure for mainstream audiences.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:26 p.m. CST

    THANK YOU, Moriarty

    by antonphd

    Speed Racer was just plain unlucky to open the week after Iron Man, which nobody saw coming. This film is one of the great ones and should be seen on the big screen. Speed Racer is Tron for this generation of kids and adults who still have the heart of a kid. And, I might add, artists who can appreciate the brilliant brave work done in this film. Some art just isn't going to be popular with the general audience. This will be a cult favorite when the kids who are crazy for it right now grow up.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST

    Sgt. Rock will fail and here's why

    by hank henshaw

    It shares the same initials as Speed Racer and Superman Returns. "SR", I see a pattern there.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:43 p.m. CST

    "Apologists"

    by Harry Weinstein

    I apologize for not a goddamn thing. That's just a word people who don't like something use to denigrate people who did. (Or in my case, suspect they might enjoy, as I haven't even had the chance to catch this film yet.) It's usually used against those who like something unpopular. You know, because the crowd is always right and shit. Mob mentality FTW. I apologize only for not having the technology to reach through my LCD and bitch-slap people who call people with different opinions than their own "apologists". And for that, I am TRULY sorry.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Brunomac...Great tag line for Speed Racer....

    by Quake II

    "Teenagers and Mexican families agree, Speed Racer is too long"

  • May 12, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    First Question Joel

    by Orionsangels

    So the movie flopped. What's your next project?

  • May 12, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Moriarty, a "journalist"?

    by La Frog

    I see you Mister Moriarty reacts quite violently to the talkbackers who question your integrity, and of course in very vulgar term (it seems to become the norm among you people). What i don't understand is how you even dare to do so. After all, aren't you a screenwriter yourself, doing at the same time interviews with a big producer? where do you draw the line between being a sell-out and keeping your integrity as a writer and a journalist? There is a time where you must choose your side I think. Those sweet lenghty questions where you praise the movie to mister silver don't seem like "chocolate coated pussy juice to me" (congrats to mister Knowles for this new vulgarity, real class here) but read like a valet kissing his master's behind. Forgive me, but that is pathetic, no matter if you love the movie or not.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Quake II - ditto on Brunomac's on SR audience

    by DarkCouncilus

    I HATE a late night movie were there are big families with children (It doesn't matter if they are Mexican or not, they always manage to be annoying) and/or teenagers (there is always a loud asshole with ADD among their groups). I'm a weekdays movie goer, If I like the movie I watch it again on the weekend with friends, but always trying to have a peaceful viewing first.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:16 p.m. CST

    blatant subversive subtext

    by theresaRussell

    Ok I really liked speed racer. But whats surprising is that I respect it. We all know that V was basically a wachowski film. They pulled the strings without being responsible for the grunt work so I count it. So they've made four films that are doing their damndest to introduce some really counter-cultural ideas to a mainstream public. Bound-SameSex love, Matrix-the world is a construct of your own psyche,V-terrorism is just a matter of what side of the fence your standing on,Speed Racer-Corporations are evil and destroy everything pure in art and humanity. The great thing about Speed Racer is that its for three year olds. The wachowskis have decided to introduce their candy coated pessimism in early gestation. I realize they barely scratch the surface of the topics they are approaching but the important thing is the sort of viral marketing of enlightenment they are attempting. Ok the matrix sequels suck, so yeah it is important to make a watchable film, I also fucking hate bound. But I dont think this is unwatchable. A little too long but still got a good pace and GREAT actors something you cant say about the matrix or bound. The message is a small portion of the equation but speed racer delivers its entertainment in its simplicity of story and the absolutely staggering visuals. Even while giving the film a decided pan the new york times admits the film broken into projections in a gallery would make a very satifying afternoon.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Speed crashes

    by The Killer Goat

    Brunomac, regarding the "safety foam bubbles", I only recall seeing those used in the 'Formula Racing' tracks in the cities. I don't think those were required for the more dangerous and hazardous Crucible race (desert, mountains, etc). There were plenty of crashes where you didn't see anyone make it out alive and there was no safety-foam (damn that sounds contraceptic) to save them. Obviously they skipped past those scenes fast. So there were crashes aplenty. But no fatalaties reported for that (illegal) race. However you may recall the crash in the middle race where Speed was 'locked' by that other racer, they flipped and both cars were totalled. Speed made it out safely, the other driver did not. Which was part of the negative buzz and media circus that Royalton had 'promised' would happen.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Pops' inventions (Spoiler???)

    by The Killer Goat

    Aside from designing and building all his own cars, Pops also built that 'convergenator' (more sex talk) to power the Mach 6. Unique, and apparently more powerful than the Royalton designs.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Wow. Speed Racer is this year's Superman Returns...

    by ckane123

    That's the last flick that drew such opposite and INCREDIBLY emotional reax. Calm down folks. Some people loved it, some people hated it. Where did this movie fail? It failed to get enough people interested in it. Is that a marketing failure? A result of bad buzz? Or both? No idea, but I think it may be a little bit of both. Anyway, I spent $20 on the giant Mach 5 toy, which would never have been possible for me to do had this flick not been made. So it's got that going for it.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Contraceptic

    by The Killer Goat

    As in, to prevent sewage. Or, to make up a lame excuse for a typo. Where's my Damn No-Prize???

  • May 12, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer is like the Popeye movie?

    by ckane123

    WOW. That actually makes me more interested in seeing it. Seriously. Popeye is underrated.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:31 p.m. CST

    LaFrog...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... easy to say from your position of anonymity. Who am I trying to fool? I was quite direct about my vague ties to Silver professionally at the start of the piece, so my conscience is clean. If it bothers you, though, you see my name on the byline... feel free to skip it.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:40 p.m. CST

    What happens next (predictions)

    by ckane123

    - We will get no Wonder Woman film produced by Joel Silver, due to the budget spent on SR - We MAY get a (medium-budget) Sgt. Rock - if G.I.Joe makes mucho bank. - Some marketing people will hit the streets - Emile Hirsh just fired his agency; he may never get a lead role in a big-budget film again - People will complain that Moriarty and Harry in the pocket of the studios (I won't) - Iron Man will hit 275 mill - I will buy lots of Speed Racer toys for my sons on clearance - Speed's box office will drop 70% next weekend - Extra prints are being run right now for Kung Fu Panda, to fill the screens that Speed will vacate very soon - The Wachowskis will stick with producers - Finally, know-it-all internet message board posters (like me) will make predictions. Try it! It's fun!

  • May 12, 2008, 6:48 p.m. CST

    conscience?

    by La Frog

    it is fine Mister Moriarty, after all it is only movies. But it seems to me very normal for readers to question the credibility of journalists who have ties (even "vague" ones) with the industry they are supposed to write about. Saying those ties are real doesn't change anything I believe, but if that cleans your conscience, that's great. Don't take it bad though. There is no shame in being a valet. If done properly, it can be a very elegant occupation.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:50 p.m. CST

    The Killer Goat

    by Zybon

    It was a "Bernoulli Convergenator," meaning it wasn't built by pops, he just had it on hand. A product from one of the companies that went under due to the fixed races.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:03 p.m. CST

    UnknownUser...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... I disagree. Going to a set isn't some fabulous experience that makes us all so giddy and girly that we'll automatically just LOVE anything that we see. Maybe that would be your reaction, but to me, a set is a workplace. Period. A chance to look at how a particular crew or cast works together. Some of the most fun sets result in unwatchable films, and sets that are tense and miserable sometimes result in classics. The film is the film. The set is the set. None of this is like winning a prize in a game show. I've been doing this for 12 years. I have a body of work both critical and about the process itself. That's why I don't have any problem doing both, and the longer I do it, the less I see any connection between reviewing and covering the process. If someone else can't do both, that's their faulty wiring, and not my problem. <P>And no, I don't mean the "average citizen" sucks cock. I mean Ron Wells, author of that hitpiece, is a syphillic cocksucker. That's what I mean.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Popeye underperformed, twas not a 'bomb'

    by ckane123

    Cost 20+ million, made almost $50 mil in the US alone ($6.3 mill opening weekend). It had horrible reviews and was expected to do better but it did not bomb. If Speed made over a third of its budget back in its opening weekend, like, say $55 mill, it would probably hit $170 domestic. It did not, so your looking at maybe $50 -60 mill total - the same amount Popeye made, unadjusted for inflation, 28 years ago. THAT is a bomb. And I love that a Speed Racer message thread is referencing Robert Altman's Popeye.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Still haven't seen enough evidence to disprove that story

    by harper54

    http://www.kaichang.net/2005/05/meet_the_author.html ...their silence on this matter is just to incriminating.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Harper54...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... their silence is just silence. That's all. That crazy woman's claims were dismissed when she failed to provide ONE SINGLE PIECE of evidence in court, and when she skipped her own court dates. Here's a simple one... let's see that ad the Wachowskis allegedly placed. That would be step one. <P>It's amazing what gullible people will swallow whole as long as it's printed on the internet. That woman is a fraud. Period.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:58 p.m. CST

    cult classic

    by theresaRussell

    not like plan 9. As mori said like tron.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:08 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer is worth seeing folks.

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    I was on the hate train prior to and I won't even deny that. I blasted this movie left and right because I thought it would be shit with wheels. I was wrong, very very wrong. Now I did smoke a spliff before going so that did have an influence but really the movie is quite amazing. It's a visual artistic masterpiece and one of those films that you will truly regret not seeing on the big screen down the road. Go see it and ignore the negative reviews.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:13 p.m. CST

    deliciouscowbell

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    I feel the same way. Totally sucks because it means it won't be in the theater for much longer. I am going again before the end of the week and may go twice actually just to get my fix of it on the big screen. I am trying to get word of mouth around to as many friends as possible to go see it.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:23 p.m. CST

    I still don't know.

    by harper54

    If you look it up, there's a lot of folks who think otherwise and in the off chance that it were true, I could see a global media conglomerate suppressing a story and/or buying the woman out. And by the way, I most assuredly do not believe everything I read on the interwebs... http://tinyurl.com/5doz4g

  • May 12, 2008, 8:49 p.m. CST

    Harper54...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... so a lot of people still think a lot of things that are total bullshit. <P>The burden of proof is on her. She's the one making the accusations. The only "evidence" that exists are things she said. Other than that, not ONE SINGLE BIT of corroboration has come to light. Like I said... where's this ad the Wachowskis placed? How about some verification of that first piece of evidence that supposedly ties this all together? <P>It's a lie. She's a liar. She had no proof and she had to skip out on her court date, and the case was dismissed. That's the truth, and just because some gullible saps didn't get the memo, it doesn't make her story true.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:08 p.m. CST

    Speed racer was a fucking blast

    by greentealite

    I just got home from this movie. It was ten times better than iron man. Apologists talking about 'need an inner child' shit, yeah, maybe. But you know what you can also have? A FUCKING IMAGINATION! AND A FUCKING HEART! This movie packs in so much of both, I loved it. Going to see it one or two more times before it goes out of theatres.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:10 p.m. CST

    also

    by greentealite

    I fucking HATE anime but this movie was fucking BETTER than anime. Because it had SUBSTANCE. SUBSTANCE. Something anime COMPLETELY LACKS.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Mori, Ron Wells has Herpes, not syphilis

    by Mace Tofu

    Don't want you spreading any misinformation about him.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:12 p.m. CST

    The amount of apologists for this terrible film

    by Interficium

    For this movie is getting to the level of "Transformers" from last summer. The only difference is that Speed Racer is twice as bad as Transformers, something previously thought to be impossible.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:30 p.m. CST

    This is awesome movie and you shouldn't be threatened by it

    by Proman1984

    It rocks!

  • May 12, 2008, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Holy Christ!

    by supersize

    There's a lot of asshole's in here

  • May 12, 2008, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Any examples Mori?

    by Lyghthouse

    Of films that were fun to visit but ended up being terrible movies? If you don't want to name name's thats fine. I find it totally believable though. I have a theory that many of the worst movies were a lot of fun to make. It's why you see so many great actors in terrible films(besides money).

  • May 12, 2008, 10:13 p.m. CST

    I've read almost all these Speed Racer talkbacks..

    by Quake II

    and the one thing I've noticed is that 98% of you that say Speed Racer is shit haven't actually SEEN IT. You're basing a movie review on OTHER CRITICS and commercials. I also notice that 75% of the people on here that actually SAW Speed Racer either like it or love it. Call me crazy but I tend to believe the people who saw the film over those who didn't (or won't). I'm going this week for sure. These talkbacks have made me more curious than ever.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah....and Popeye

    by Quake II

    was an awesome movie. A cartoon fully realized and turned into a live action film. Shelley Duvall as Olive Oyl (yes, that's how you spell it) was a fucking genius casting move!

  • May 12, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Racer X Flips His Car Over a Bad Guy's Car

    by Slugworth

    And punches the dude in the face. Fucking cool.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:38 p.m. CST

    You're Cute, Brane

    by drew mcweeny

    I like how you start by trying to claim I'm homophobic, then finish by accusing me of liking a movie because of tranny sex. Classssssssssy.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST

    QuakeII

    by drew mcweeny

    Don't bring up the fact that most of the venomous remarks here are from people who haven't seen the film. That ruins their momentum. <P>One of my best friends... the godfather of my son... my executive producer on my feature this summer... went with me to the IMAX screening last week, and he didn't care for the film much at all. "Didn't get it," he said. And that's fine. At least he saw it and gave it a chance. <P>But it cracks me up how someone can try to connect the idea that a mediocre box-office weekend means "everyone has decided this film is terrible." It means everyone has decided not to see the film. Those who have seem to be enjoying themselves, for the most part. I can totally understand not liking something you've seen, but I'll never understand this sort of black-hearted venom for a film you haven't.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:01 p.m. CST

    And Moriority....

    by Quake II

    Obviously very few people DID see Speed Racer this weekend as it had shockingly poor box office. But I could care less. I'm taking my son wednesday and if it's fun, I may go again before it leaves the big screen. And I am excited about Indy, Hellboy II and The Dark Knight as well. I tend to actually watch films before I shit all over them. But I'm not your typical talkbacker (I moved out of my parents house at 17 (20 years ago) and never went back).

  • May 12, 2008, 11:01 p.m. CST

    And Moriarity....

    by Quake II

    Obviously very few people DID see Speed Racer this weekend as it had shockingly poor box office. But I could care less. I'm taking my son wednesday and if it's fun, I may go again before it leaves the big screen. And I am excited about Indy, Hellboy II and The Dark Knight as well. I tend to actually watch films before I shit all over them. But I'm not your typical talkbacker (I moved out of my parents house at 17 (20 years ago) and never went back).

  • May 12, 2008, 11:02 p.m. CST

    I tried to correct the name spelling before it posted

    by Quake II

    and got a double post. Ooops.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:14 p.m. CST

    QuakeII...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... you should be excited about HELLBOY 2. Not that I've seen it, mind you. But if I had... I'd tell you to be very, very excited because it rocks incredibly hard. But that's if I'd seen it. Which I'm sure I haven't.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:18 p.m. CST

    JUST SEE THE FUCKING MOVIE.

    by polyh3dron

    It ranks up there with some of my greatest cinematic experiences in my LIFE seeing this movie at the Grauman's Chinese.. It really blew me the fuck away... I never saw much Speed Racer as a kid, maybe 2 or 3 episodes tops, so I was never a Speed Racer fan but this movie made me one. I have never experienced such a sensory overload from a movie.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:19 p.m. CST

    Also, Giacchino's score deserves a fucking Oscar.

    by polyh3dron

    Yes I said it.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST

    This will be such a cult classic in the future

    by polyh3dron

    and Blu-ray sales of this movie are going to go through the roof.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Oh, I Get It!

    by drew mcweeny

    "Apologists" is the way some of you douchebags say "fans." If you like something, you are a "fan" of it. Not an "apologist." Now that I understand that, it makes so much more sense.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Box office reminds me (slightly) of Grind House

    by Lyghthouse

    Lots of people loved it, including myself, but I think WB bet a little too much on this movies appeal. Its a 100+ million dollar movie based on a 40 year old cartoon my own parents used to watch as a kid. If they could have scaled back the budget to under 100 mil and released it in December instead of summer, I think it could have performed better. The movie may be fantastic, but I can entirely see why it failed at the B.O.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:45 p.m. CST

    I'm taking my 3 year old nephew thursday.

    by greenstyle92

    My sister (his mother) and I have been pimping my Nephew on Speed Racer for the past month. And it was her suggestion! I brought over my DVD of the first season and he loves, she's been buying him speed Racer clothes and a couple of the smaller cars, I've been showing him the trailers for the movie, and he's going nuts! He's got the 3 year old movie equivalent of Speed Racer blue balls and he'll never forgive me if I don't come through and actually take him! Then I think I'll get him that Hot wheels Mach 5 and Racer X 9 car set. should be fun.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:48 p.m. CST

    The term apologist...

    by greenstyle92

    actually has it's roots in Christian Theological study. It's an old discipline that tried to argue why God and the divinity of Jesus should be considered more plausible, not less plausible.<br> <br> Which means using it in film context of people who like movies is really fucked up.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:50 p.m. CST

    As for the film making it's money back...

    by greenstyle92

    If we count DVD sales, Pay per view sales, and premium channel and network tv deals, it's almost impossible that Speed Racer WON'T eventually make it's money back. And if I recall, it took Wizard of Oz something like 10 years before it made it's money back. Think about it.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:58 p.m. CST

    Wizard of Oz wasn't supposed to be a franchise

    by Lyghthouse

    At least I don't think it was. It's also a completely different era of movies. I don't know. When you account for marketing, theater chains cut of the box office, and other fees, the DVD sales would have to be pretty spectacular to get it's money back. Right now, breaking even looks difficult. Foreign box office isn't doing that well either.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:06 a.m. CST

    I would have liked a sequel.

    by greenstyle92

    I really would have. but the movie is at least good enough to stand on it's own two feet and be enjoyable on it's own.<br> <br> And while I have been very hesitant to count my chickens before they hatch, I for one think that "cult status" is plausible for this film, but it may take 5 years before we know. (And in an insanely good outcome, it's blue ray sales may be high compared to it's box office. It's possible, but I'm not saying that's what will happen.) So I think that when the kiddies who enjoy the movie today become greasy teenagers, there will be talk of this movie. I wouldn't be surprised if talks of a sequel start to rear there head in, say, a decade. At which time they'd have to decide whether to get the old cast back or go for another re-boot.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:09 a.m. CST

    To be fair, it hasn't been release in Japan yet

    by Lyghthouse

    Where I expect it will be huge.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:09 a.m. CST

    Now watch Darkcouncils...

    by greenstyle92

    snidely start proclaiming "Speed Racer 2 set for 2018! You heard it here first!" I mean, I would if I were him...

  • May 13, 2008, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Will the release it in Japan as "Mach Go Go Go?"

    by greenstyle92

    The japanese were confused as all hell last year when the leader of the autobots was named "Optimus Prime" in Transformers. In japan, he's always been known as "convoy."<br> <br> Though, Speed Racer is probably a much truer adaption of the source than "Godzilla" and "Transformers" were.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:25 a.m. CST

    "Hellboy II probably rocks incredibly hard."

    by Quake II

    ----Moriarity. AINT IT COOL NEWS. Great DVD cover quote (lol).

  • May 13, 2008, 12:25 a.m. CST

    Why SPEED RACER is ultimately a winner

    by Chishu_Ryu

    **spoilers**<p> 1. Speed Racer may not be a critical or financial success right now, but aesthetically, it succeeds with flying colors. Literally.<p> 2. The Wachowski Nutjobs took the Speed Racer concept and mixed it with Frank Capra's "It's a Wonderful Life","TRON", Brian DePalma/Martin Scorsese film trickery, Little Orphan Annie, Japanime, Bruce Lee movies, Tex Avery cartoons, state of the art CGI, and special sauce to create the ultra-kinetic wacky insane heartfelt goodness currently playing at a theater near you.<p> 2. It experiments cinematically. It takes risks. It dares to boldly go where no movie has gone before. "Child-drawn" animation and b&w newsreel footage in the same movie? Crazy! And the scene transitions make the ones in Ang Lee's Hulk look like baby food. Does the experimentation work? For me, it does. I like how the film didn't let me settle into a particular gear, but kept shifting on me, keeping me off balance. I wasn't sure if I was going to get Speed Racer seriousness or Spritle/ChimChim goofiness from one moment to the next! Way to take the viewer out of his/her comfort zone! I like it! <p> 3. Beneath the digital slickness, the flash, the dazzle, the corporate crookery, Speed Racer does indeed have heart, that is, emotional depth. You do feel the love the Racer family members have for each other, the regret of Racer X. Admittedly, I did lose a little emotional connection during the longer expositories at the film's beginning, but the ending made up for that in spades.<p> 4. The ending. I have probably just seen the nearest cinematic equivalent to one's first orgasm ever put to screen. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if that's how the Wachowski Nutjobs directed the digital animators and the editors to create this amazing sequence. Orgasm. Not just any orgasm, but the first one. Like a virgin. At the end of it, I was nearly as breathless as Speed.<p> 5. Speed Racer is a trilogy rolled into one film. Actually, the film is two films. Like back to back episodes of the old cartoon comprising a larger story arc. The first one ends with the Casa Cristo race. The second one begins with the Grand Prix. I think the Wachowskis might have helped their cause if they even literally divided the film into these two episodes, just like the old cartoon.<p> 6. "Get that weak shit off my track!" What a great line. Much better than "I drink your milkshake."<p> 7. A great cast. The kid playing Spritle even looks like John Goodman. Emile brings the intensity. Matt Fox brings the coolness. Susan Sarandon brings the MILFness. Ms. Ricci brings the same weird hotness she's brought to everything I've seen her in since Buffalo 66. Oh, and ChimChim, too. <p> 7. The ending credit sequence is maybe the best ending credit sequence ever. <p> I'm not going to call "Speed Racer" cinematic genius. Maybe cinematic brilliance. And how brilliant it is...and colorful...

  • May 13, 2008, 12:43 a.m. CST

    Japan and SPEED RACER

    by Harry Weinstein

    That July release date in Japan seems catastrophically far away now that this is a grade-A flop. I'm going to see it Wed - but barring a miracle or the best word of mouth of all time, neither of which will realistically happen, it's a flop. And Japanese audiences get to watch this remake of one of their own shows tank in country after country after country in the months before they get to see it themselves. The title over there, by the way, is SPEED RACER (spelled out phonetically), not MACH 5 GO GO GO. This, in my opinion, is very, very stupid. Logically, the Japanese version of SPEED RACER should have been handled the same way the American version of MACH 5 GO GO GO was; dubbed, with character names and title changed (back). I'm surprised (a little) that the Brothers didn't insist on it - they have the clout to do so, and I certainly would have insisted on it. Japan is just getting a subtitled American movie called SPEED RACER. How seemingly inappropriate...

  • May 13, 2008, 12:45 a.m. CST

    Why SPEED RACER is ultimately a winner

    by Chishu_Ryu

    **spoilers**<p> 1. Speed Racer may not be a critical or financial success right now, but aesthetically, it succeeds with flying colors. Literally.<p> 2. The Wachowski Nutjobs took the Speed Racer concept and mixed it with Frank Capra's "It's a Wonderful Life","TRON", Brian DePalma/Martin Scorsese film trickery, Little Orphan Annie, Japanime, Bruce Lee movies, Tex Avery cartoons, state of the art CGI, and special sauce to create the ultra-kinetic wacky insane heartfelt goodness currently playing at a theater near you.<p> 2. It experiments cinematically. It takes risks. It dares to boldly go where no movie has gone before. "Child-drawn" animation and b&w newsreel footage in the same movie? Crazy! And the scene transitions make the ones in Ang Lee's Hulk look like baby food. Does the experimentation work? For me, it does. I like how the film didn't let me settle into a particular gear, but kept shifting on me, keeping me off balance. I wasn't sure if I was going to get Speed Racer seriousness or Spritle/ChimChim goofiness from one moment to the next! Way to take the viewer out of his/her comfort zone and keep them on the edge whether they like it or not! <p> 3. Beneath the digital slickness, the flash, the dazzle, the virtual hyperreality, Speed Racer does indeed have heart, that is, emotional depth. You do feel the love the Racer family members have for each other, the regret of Racer X. Admittedly, I did lose a little emotional connection during the longer expositories at the film's beginning, but the ending made up for that in spades.<p> 4. The ending. I have probably just seen the nearest cinematic equivalent to one's first orgasm ever put to screen. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if that's how the Wachowski Nutjobs directed the digital animators and the editors to create this amazing sequence. Orgasm. Not just any orgasm, but the first one. Like a virgin. At the end of it, I was nearly as breathless as Speed.<p> 5. Speed Racer is a trilogy rolled into one film. Actually, the film is two films. Like back to back episodes of the old cartoon comprising a larger story arc. The first one ends with the Casa Cristo race. The second one begins with the Grand Prix. I think the Wachowskis might have helped their cause if they even literally divided the film into these two episodes, just like the old cartoon.<p> 6. "Get that weak shit off my track!" What a great line. Much better than "I drink your milkshake."<p> 7. A great cast. The kid playing Spritle even looks like John Goodman. Emile brings the intensity. Matt Fox brings the coolness. Susan Sarandon brings the MILFness. Ms. Ricci brings the same weird hotness she's brought to everything I've seen her in since Buffalo 66. Oh, and ChimChim was great, too. Can't go wrong cinematically with monkeys.<p> 8. Nice fitting musical score that incorporates the original theme song brilliantly.<p> 9. The ending credit sequence is maybe the best ending credit sequence ever.<p> I'm not going to call "Speed Racer" cinematic genius. How about cinematic brilliance? And how brilliant it is...and colorful...

  • May 13, 2008, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Photos of Megan Fox Topless (plus ass-shots)

    by Hellofadrug

    http://tinyurl.com/5u6su5 aww, yeah.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:22 a.m. CST

    Shout out to Moriarty

    by CaptainHendry

    Just wanted to say you are so right about this film. I almost didn't go because of the reviews but I'm so glad I did. I had as much fun at this film as I did at Iron Man. I think people just didn't expect a pure-hearted family film from the W's but that's what this is and it's probably the best kid film in a long while, maybe since Incredibles. My 7 year old laughed hysterically at chim-chim and even my usually fidgety 4 year old watched the entire film and told me how much she loved the racing parts. Seriously, this film is a minor masterpiece which I fully intend to buy on Blu-ray. The naysayers are missing out. Anyway, Joel made a great film no matter what the dopey reviewers are saying.

  • May 13, 2008, 3:28 a.m. CST

    Moriarty is aggressive

    by La Frog

    but i do like how he defends his masters when people criticize Speed Racer or spread those silly rumors about that crazy woman pretending to have written Matrix. You are right, Monsieur Moriarty. Don't shrug it off with a smile. Be offended like a lovely dedicated valet should be. Is cinema such a blinding mistress that it makes you lose all sense of decency? Go on like this though, you'll get your candy.

  • May 13, 2008, 4:44 a.m. CST

    Chimp-The Movie sucked even more than I expected.

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    And I expected nothing.<p>The makers should be shot for including that fat-kid-with-chimp jokes. I mean, WTF?!?!

  • May 13, 2008, 6:27 a.m. CST

    People who say they 'hate' it are just trolling

    by greentealite

    You already don't have my respect, so your opinion means jack shit. All the normal people who actually saw the movie thought it was a blast. And I'm not some douche sack who loves shit-on-a-stick like Transformers or other geek shit, I like French new wave, Bergman, Jarman, Cocteau, Jarmusch, Scorcese, etc etc. In other words, I have taste. And as someone with taste, I can definitely say this movie falls under the 'spectacular' category. And the chimp in this movie should get an award.

  • May 13, 2008, 7:21 a.m. CST

    Anyone who knows the SR series...

    by JackinNYC

    Knows that Speed Racer is only partly about racing. He and his family got into many adventures and predicaments that Speed and the Mach V got them out of. Racing almost became a side plot in many of the episodes. Mammoth Car, Supersonic Car etc…I bet if they had gone this direction and came up with a cool take on any one of the original episodes, the film would have been much more fun. And more successful. As a kid, that’s what I remember. Not the ‘racing’. I mean come on, how boring is it to just watch a car race? Albeit a colorful one. ZZZZZZZZ.

  • May 13, 2008, 7:37 a.m. CST

    Fucking piece of shit

    by Series7

    IMAX near me doesn't show movies, just all those nature docs IMAX always makes. And that is two hours away, there used to be one in town but it closed down last year. Even though I went to see Harry's Potter like in week 5 of release on some random weekday and it had a good number of people there. So how the fuck does the IMAX 2 hours away stay in buisness just showing nature docs all day?????

  • May 13, 2008, 8:03 a.m. CST

    You know the funny thing about buzz

    by Series7

    You know when a movie is going to be a hit if you work in a cube ville office. For those of you grown up enough to move out of the basement, and spend all day alt tabbing as to not get caught posting on geek websites know what I mean. <P> People who work in offices don't often have that much creativity outside of the box (i am talking about standard offices non of this fancy learning company shit, like corporation places) and you can get the sense as to if a movie is going to be a hit or not within your office. Like before Iron Man came out, I heard people talking about it, or whenever I said anything about it, someone would say "Oh that looks bad ass". Now when Speed Racer came out, the exact opposite reaction happened. And usually 99% of the time half these people never even see the film, they just like to make small talk. Its just a funny thing you kids and high schoolers don't notice yet. You kind of see it in college, but you still have the option to be in your own little world there. In a office your forced to interact with whoever. And the most geekiest thing in my office next to my sweet Robocop 3-D poster that everyone likes, is some dudes Star Ward collage. And I don't really talk to him, and I know he is a geek like me because I he puts up the free posters they give away at the theater and local comic book shop in his cube. I try to hid my geekness. Though i wouldn't mind a sweet small Mach 5 die cast hotwheel to dick around with whilst on the phone.

  • May 13, 2008, 8:31 a.m. CST

    Also

    by Series7

    Since I seem to be the only one still posting on this TB. <P> I slub a dubed my childhood favorite cartoon in the ole DVD the other night, after watching some Speed Racer cartoons on Myspace. I realized that I was not a huge fan of the original series (I was before my time and I had been tainted by better animation). But my favorite cartoon is Inspector Gadget, and watching the cartoon and thinking about the Cool as Ice directed movie, I am jealous of the people who's favorite cartoon is Speed Racer. Because you have a sweet bookend to your beloved series, while I got a Gadgets back story and got to see Claw's gay british face. OH and Andy dick. Plus you got probably one of the top ten animal performances, we get probably the lamest cartoon to movie animal until odie. We got a talking (convertable) gadget mobile. The only thing where Speed and Gadget are equal is the score, the gadget was very well done, and just like speed it had music with touches of the original theme song in it.

  • May 13, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST

    OH!

    by Series7

    I fergot to mention the kicker. While the gadget movie was a shit take on the show, and Speed was an excellent transition and modernization of the show.... Gadget ended up being somewhat of a hit, it made its money back. Also most cartoon movies don't play out well over seas <P> Also funny thing, in looking into gadget I came across a cartoon I had been trying to find for AGES! Samurai Pizza Cats, please tell me I am not the only one who remembers this? Any of you British blokes remember it being on in the mid 90's, I saw it on some sky channel there in the monring, like 7am. That would be a sweet movie. <P> http://tinyurl.com/4pd97e

  • May 13, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Your the only one posting, but we're reading.

    by godzillasushi

    That's what they call the watercooler man. Movies and TV shows people talk about in the office, possibly at the watercooler!

  • May 13, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Haahaha

    by Series7

    Inspector Gadget was written by Zak Penn, no wonder X-men turned out the way they did, he doesn't give a shit about source material. Seriously I wonder how gets the final say on these films (well, duh production companies). But even still Marvel let him re-write the new Hulk movie? This guy is only famous because they some how gave him the right to play with already awesome franchises and take them down a notch. This guys other movies (Suspect Zero and Behind Enemy Lines were Meh at best, can't say anything about the Grand). Also how is he friends with Herzog. <P> Another thing about speed is that fans got two hours and 15 minutes, while a little long. At least they got their moneys worth. Gadget was an hour 20. <P> Another Samurai Pizza Cats clip. <P> http://tinyurl.com/2btnkj

  • May 13, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    God damn!

    by Series7

    Awesome. Good news for all you Samurai Pizza Cats fans. <P> http://tinyurl.com/4u6nbu <P> Come on pay day.

  • May 13, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    Just Saw the IMAX version

    by bravojo

    Wow, go see it in IMAX beofre they pull it which I'm sure is soon. It was way better on the bigger screen!<p> Also, I have come to realize that just because I loved the movie I am not going to be able to say anything on a talkback to change anyone else's mind who don't want to go see it. I know what they are missing and you know what they are missing and I can just be happy that I saw it and loved it and my son loved it.<p> About the toys, they really do suck. The cars are ok, but it was a waist to not make better action figures. I was hoping for a cool Racer X figure and a full size Shooting Star to go with the Mach 5. Hell, I am customizing a Marvel Legend cyclops to the movie Racer X this weekend.

  • May 13, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Speed Racer was OK; could have been a lot better

    by Mr Incredible

    I didn't hateit, but I didn't like it as much as I wanted to. I'm sure it will make a nice cult film in the future, but man, did Warner Bros. screw up on this one with releasing it now instead of April or August, or even around Christmas.

  • May 13, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    SPEED RACER was GREAT. Loved it. This is from a fan

    by Mace Tofu

    who watched the original 'toon first run. I went last night with some friends and I thought the movie was great. At one time I worked on another version of SR that never went anywhere but I can say that even with this new movie doing it in a way I would not of gone I can't say they didn't nail all the elements I wanted to see in a Speed Racer movie. I was happy and didn't have to do any of the work. What I was working on would of been more real world in style but I can't complain with the style choice made by the Wachowskis. JackinNYC, They worked in a Mammoth Truck and a GRX supersonic car into the movie, they had a gang of Ninjas (Ya gotta have Ninjas in a SR movie). Guns, Blood!?, Fights. They even had the sink from Speeds kitchen in the movie. What more did you want or didn't you see the movie yet? I read about 50 negative reviews before seeing the movie and just don't get what all the bitchin' is about. Did we see the same movie? The movie I saw was about 110% Speed Racer. Maybe I'm just too close to the source material but after waiting 40 years for this movie I give it a 5 out of 5. Great job. Really. I'm 2 for 2 with this and IRON MAN, will Indy make 3? Then HULK. Oh I saw THE CLONE WARS trailer on this. It didn't look too bad and JW SW music was nice to hear in the theater again (had my DARTH MAUL jacket on lol but hey I still go out in public wearing STAR WARS shirts 2 or 3 times a week : )

  • May 13, 2008, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Has anyone played the video game

    by Series7

    For Speed yet? I heard it was pretty good for a movie video game, unlike Iron Man, which we were told was going to be revolutionary.

  • May 13, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST

    Or

    by Series7

    Since we are talking about live action animie movies. Does anyone know anything about the Death Note movie playing this week?

  • May 13, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    CHOCOLATE COVERED DEFLATED BALLOONS

    by ArcadianDS

    Comments, Harry?

  • May 13, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Score

    by RenoNevada2000

    Where's the score online?

  • May 13, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    Visionary--Don't Believe the Reviews...Judge For Yourself.

    by Lone_Wolf_McQuaalude

    I couldn't agree with Moriarty and Harry more. 'Speed Racer' is just, indescribable. The Wachowskis are continuing, as filmakers, to create WORLDS. Look at the way the world looks...the faces, the colors. Global cinema. These guys are making movies for the 21st century.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Such a fresh story over the rehash super hero plot

    by lodoss900

    One of the few films I will see twice. Such a fresh story over the rehash super hero plot that is done in disney esque forumla way. How many times can you re tell the Idenpendence day story line. ID4 + Robots The film finally gave the Racer family a heart. The scene where Speed is about to walk away from the Racer family ala Rex. Then Pops has that talk with him. Oh shit? did these characters grow through out the film in a realistic way? It was such a welcome change from the dysfunctional fmaily over dose we get from every screwed up family film were led to believe populates this world. Its a intelligent story, with several plot lines and story archs. Which has the balls to take its time and wrap them up nicely. Thank you for this film

  • May 13, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    YOU WILL READ MY BIG DAMN REVIEW OF THIS MOVIE

    by Johnno

    Alright,I finally managed to go check this film out in IMAX last night. And when I came out of it I was enraged, I was fucking eraged and angry and here's why...<br><br> Attention critics at Rotten Tomatoes, this is for you. YOU FUCKED UP! YOU FUCKED UP LARGE!!! And I am pissed and angry and all of you! Well, not all of you, some of you, some like Ebert and Roeper and those that did this film good, are in my good book. But by and large Rotten Tomatoes is no longer going to be taken seriously by me anymore, hell I think I might stop giving a fuck about that beta site altogether!<br><br> Since it's a prerequisite for reviewing anything on this site these days so everyone knows where I'm coming form. I'm a big anime fan, but I've never watched the original Speed Racer, not as a kid, not now, not likely ever. I know it by reputation I've seen a few clips on the net and that's it. When teh first screens and trailer for this movie came out, I was one of those that got excited. I like seeing some cool new things put to screen. I like how films like Sin City and 300 try to present us with slick new visuals and style. Speed Racer is that same category. But whereas 300 and Sin City faithfully brought to life the exact visuals referenced from the comics, the Wachowskis had a much more difficult task of taking the shitty ass animation from a dated Japanese cartoon and creating a style and cinematic moments that are magnificiently wonderful and uniquely theirs while at the same time maintaining that spirited faithfulness to the original material. Since I'm not familiar with the original show I'll leave it to fans to tell you how a good a job they did in that department, but still even if I'm not one of those fans, I can still see perfectly where they're coming from and what they're doing with this movie.<br><br> I will give some advice to you concerning the visuals of this film and the best way to experience them. The IMAX experience is really something, but no doubt the amount of things that happen in this movie are batshit insane and there are moments where I felt very overwhelmed due tot eh amount of stuff happening and the size of the screen I was watching it on. This could certianly disorient and piss some people off. Speed Racer suffers somewhat in the visuals department for some of the same reasons and complaints levied against Transformers, Batman Begins and the Bourne Supremacy and Cloverfield in terms of the theatrical experience. The size of the screen compared to the amount of information the viewer can retain during the action sequences can be overwhelming. However unlike Transformers, Batman Begins, Bourne and Cloverfield, Speed Racer dpesn't resort to 'shaky cams.' The Wachowskis like their past films know how to give us smooth clean paning, trucking and tracking shots. It's just that this time is is truly a lot happening! Cars are careening in the backgrounds, debris and wreckage is flying and cars run ramphant on loop de loops and all manners of death defying ridiculous raods and scenery. I watched those first 7 mins WB released on my flat screen monitor over and over a couple of times and loved it and had absolutely no problems, it's was coherent and beautiful. However those first 7 mins blown up in IMAX were pretty damn overwhelming even for me! So here's my advice. If you're already convinced that you love the way this looks and you want to have that crazy an experience, stick to your plans and check it out in IMAX. For the rest of you if you want to still catch this in theatres and you're uneasy about this film's visuals, a regular theatre will probably be best and go grab a seat in the back row. But if anything I do feel that Speed Racer will definately be for most nauseous audiences best seen in the comfort of their home on a nice big HDTV with surround sound on blu-ray! I know I'm definately grabbing this on blu-ray day 1! This film will be stunning and perhaps like the Matrix become the first title to really push sales on a new format. I'm guessing that parents these days would rather just rent or buy movies for their kids than take em to the theatre. They just visit each other's houses on playdates and sit down on bean bags and horse around and talk and comment to their heart's content while watching the film and borrow more from each other. Better than forcing them to be quiet in the theatre anyway. This is that film best enjoyed as a group!<br><br> Let's get some legitimate complaints out of the way. And frankly there's only a few of them. The biggest one is that at around the 2/4 the film does drag a bit until the halfway point. The Wachowskis seem to have this tendency in all their flicks. For the first Matrix, many people might get bored with some of the time spent aboard the Nebuchadnezzar in the real world until they head back into the Matrix again to visit the oracle. If we consider Reloaded and Revolutions as one film again there's the lengthy portion spent in Zion that tends to hang because the Wachowskis use this time to set up character personalities, relationships and other insights and explanations into how the world works and its technology and history etc. They seem to want to get that stuff out of the way, and once that groundwork is done they shoot us out right back into the action and excitement. I'd agree there are better ways to do this, but if you're patient enough to get through a few minutes of that, the Wachowskis always pay it off in spades! The ass-kickery comes back and we're left astounded and teh things we see and in some crazy way everything seems to behave as if it were the msot natural thign int he world as if we're convinced that it's the way things work. Our belief has been suspended and replaced by the reality of this world and we're going along for the ride!<br><br>The other complaint would be that sometimes the Squirtle and Chimp scenes aren't always funny, they're about 50/50... well at least for adults anyway, kids should get a kick out of them 100% of the time, but for me cootie jokes are cliche and I don't even think kids believe that anymore, there's probably some new equivalent for all I know... so anyway it's a minor complaint as there are some especially hilarious moments in there. Other than that, I honestly can't think of anything else that's wrong with this movie, and I'm trying very hard here. Well I suppose the expository rant about stocks and race fixing may be a little over the heads of many and could've just gotten to the point, but it lasts all but a couple of minutes and is over before you know it.<br><br> One thing worth mentioning that critics have lambasted is the way the Wachowskis presented the material by occasionally 'jumping back and forth between scenes and moments in time. However this is a piss poor complaint by critics here. Yes, it is a very untraditional way of filmaking and telling a story, but I insist that the Wachowskis pulled it off to perfection here! At the start of the film it's a bit jarring (see the first 7 mins) but it eases you into it, it is consistent and sure enough you'll soon fit right in there. But the whole movie isn't always like this. There are plenty of times the movie plays out at a usual pace with traditionally shot scenes that don't involve fancy camera work or compositing effects. The Wachowskis know the right scenes to use it in adn when to restrain the style to focus on important things.<br><br> What important things? Well how about the family and characters. Here's where critics seriously fucked up. The characters are all lovable. Their relationships with each other and heartwarming and delightful. Even the main villan is lovable. The acting goes for that campy style and cartoon over the topness, but even I'm surprised at some of the straightforward and touching moments. If anything the acting fits, it fits in nicely and is believable in a way that you actually feel you're watching characters and villians in a Disney cartoon. They're expressive and entirely charming. The Wachowskis want you to feel a certain way about a character and they accomplish precisely that. Even some of the children in the film like young Speed and Trixie are especially darlings that are simply too cute to brush aside. Audiences will love those moments although alas they are too short... I honestly wish I could see more cute moments from the childhoods of Speed and Trixie. I would especially pay money to see little Trixie puch all the critics that panned this film right in the balls.<br><br> Now let's deal with some sceptical shit. Some of you have brought up concerns about how the driving adn racing are so unrealistic and 'anything happens' that there's no feeling that the character will be in any danger. And I'm here to tell you that this is flat out wrong and anyone who ever tells you that hasn't seen the film or is flat out lying due to some strange vendetta. There are some concrete rules in this world. And while bubble escape pods can rescue you in teh event that you car is about to explode or crash and never recover it's not something that's always able to protect you. There are thigsn that happen that would practically kill you and lop your head right off. The closed legitimate circuit roads in the city may have some form of protection and adherence to strict rules. But the cross country circuits are not holding back with any restrictions and fucking up your competition is encouraged. Also Speed's car has gadgets but he has a limited arsenal of things he can do which doesn't account for everything that can possibly happen to him. There are some other surprisingly bloody and violent moments in here that convince you that the bad buys mean it. But at the same time it's remarkably balanced with something comedic and cartoony so it's a film that always manages to bring us back whenever things tend to become too sorrowful or too serious. What the film doesn't stop you from feeling is that you wholeheartedly want to cheer for Speed and his family... not so much from overcoming the corporations and politics of the world, but to opvercome the personal tragedy that the family has been through. You want them to heal themselves and comfort each other. When they are down you want them to cheer up and come back to life!<br><br> You've no doubt heard many comparisons drawn about this film. Harry's reference to 2001 is apt for this films' climatic moments. I was at the edge of my friggin seat throughout that entire segment! Of course it's not the same thing as 2001 you idiots, but I bet that if Stanley Kubric could he'd rise form the grave and personally shove a copy of 2001 up your asses for being so anal about this lighthearted lovable film. There is absolutely nothing wrong with this film for it to receive the ire that it has. At worst, it is an alright children's campy movie wth some over the top acting and effects with a servicable story. But it isn't that. I personally insist that it is a remarkable achievement the likes of which we haven't seen and will be damn lucky to ever experience again. Its plot, despite how light it is and its characters are leagues better than 300 and Sin City which you all fawned over and threw petals in their paths. When Harry compared Pops to Neo he was just being hyperbolic, it's not the same but Pops is definately a badass and steals the fight scenes! The few martial arts moments in this film are also very entertaining and funny. There appear to be plenty of throwback moments to old school kung fu, and driving films and anime. The lights on Speeds helmet, the camera flashes and lights on the cars and stuff are definately things anime enthusiasts will recognize from moments in Akira, Macross Plus and various others. This is indeed a cartoon come to life. I highly disagree with the unvisionaries amongst us who say shit like they should've just made a cartoon or some shit. No, fuck you! If this was a cartoon it wouldn't be the same, it wouldn't feel the same. Having live action actors here lends it something cartoons don't. The merger between live action and animation moments casts some extraordinary spell over the viewer. The Wachowskis use it for moments that are memorable, emotional, comedic, serious, deadly and even outright 'laugh with me and at me' cheesy!<br><br> I'm an unashamed fanboy of the Matrix Trilogy. I make it known openly. But even I can find agreement with those who criticize those films for their problems. However with Speed Racer, they are flat out wrong! I'm actually astonished at the bullshit said about this movie by those rotten tomatoes fuckers. In fact I'm angry and I've never felt this way before. All I can think about right now is this movie and when I can find a chance to watch it again. If poor box office means this will come out to blu-ray sooner then I'll be pretty damn happy to get my hands on it... but I honestly believe this movie deserves a chance. For those that are still akeptical about seeing it, try and catch it at a matanee or something. Heck even if you prefer to wait for DVD, then fine... But when you do get an opportune moment try and give this film a chance. You might be insanely delighted. If for some reason you genuinely didn't dig this movie, then I'm going to have to say that I just don't understand that at all and you and I simply have remarkably different tastes that we will never compromise on. But a bad and terrible movie this is not. It's got to be the overwhelming nature of this on the large screen that might be too much for some people to tolerate. But I'd advise even those people to give it another chance on DVD or definately blu-ray. You might find yourself liking it a lot more than you remember.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST

    ^ Sorry for spelling mistakes and whatever

    by Johnno

    That's what happens when you use notepad instead of Microsoft Word and the lights are dim and your fucking keyboard is black with white letters that you can hardly see!

  • May 13, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Speed has badly flopped in Europe in it's opening weekend

    by Wayne6000

    In addition to it's weak North American opening weekend where Iron Man clobbered it, Warner Bros must be hugely disappointed at how SR badly flopped in it's opening weekend in Europe. It should do better on DVD, but any hopes Warner had of a Speed franchise have gone down the toilet.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST

    "From the Creators of The Maligned Classic SPEED RACER!"

    by Blue_Demon

    Think we'll see that on a poster soon?<p>This movie is done.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Wow...it really underperformed. Too bad.

    by BLEST

    I did think I'd want to watch it (unless it was a free ticket to IMAX and I was high. That would be cool, just for the experience) based on the trailers.<p>I watched the first 7 minutes, and I actually liked the stuff with kid Speed and his brother, and the look of the characters. I always dug Dick Tracy as a kid and I liked what they were doing with this film.<p>It's the actual race scene that turned me off. It looks fake, with no depth or weight to it. Truly, it looks like F-Zero or Mario Kart, and not like a real race.<p> I'd said this in many talkbacks: "It'll be the surprise bomb of the summer. 45 mil tops, then comes Narnia and Indy IV to dominate the next 2 weekends"<p>But even I didn't think it would do this bad. Sucks for them. I wasn't too keen on it, but I respect them for trying to do a new thing. Oh well, I'll catch it on Blu-ray.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Above first line should read:

    by BLEST

    "I DIDN'T think I'd want to watch it."

  • May 13, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    Johnno = Plant

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    What a fucking pathetic review. Well, at least that fits that pathetic "movie" you "reviewed".<p>@ Salemslut: I am a big fan of anime, I love THE MATRIX and BOUND and I do not "hate" on CHIMP-THE MOVIE because it bombed at the BO (which it did) but because I've seen that crappy, infantile, overblown, sidefucked borefest and am pissed that the Wachowskis and Joel Silver and the great cast couldn't do better. Plus, I've wasted over two hours of my precious time. AND STOP REFERRING TO 2001, YOU DUMBASSES. Comparing SPEED RACER to 2001 is not only downright silly but a true outrage!

  • May 13, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Motoko Kusanagi = Rival Studio Plant

    by Johnno

    I don't need to hear this from a jackass like you. You've been in every talkback doing your best to hate on the flick. I bet right now you're wacking off to the nude pages of Ghost in the Shell: Man Machine Interface. Now there's a pretentious jargon filled colourful mess with action sequences that no one can follow. And I'll compare this movie to 2001 twenty-one thousand times if I have to! The chimp sequences in that movie are hilariously bad. Speed Racer's chimp flings shit all over it and you! Are you outraged yet??? C'mon Motoko you big titted mechanical bitch, tell us again what a masterpiece Transformers is! Let's do virtual battle online just like Section-9 does!

  • May 13, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST

    Speed Racer video game????

    by Series7

    Anyone??? I've heard good things? Anyone actually played it?

  • May 13, 2008, 1:22 p.m. CST

    that fat-kid-with-chimp jokes

    by The Killer Goat

    You mean... like in the fucking cartoon? God forbid.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:45 p.m. CST

    Thanks for the correction, Zybon

    by The Killer Goat

    I guess they stole more of Pop's thunder than I thought. Well, at least he was a mechanic and car designer.

  • May 13, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    BLEST, if it helps...

    by Johnno

    Why not just think of it as an F-Zero or Mario Kart movie??? The races in Speed Racer are unrealistic and there will never be racing or cars or tracks like it... I don't think being like a game is a bad thing though most people use that comparison as a derogatory. Hell they are hot wheels tracks! You shove the car through the gate and it goes all the way through the loops and everything using the same physics in our world and then some... This movie is like that. So if you want to think of it as being based on a video game, then go right ahead!

  • May 13, 2008, 2:11 p.m. CST

    When is

    by Series7

    Pixar going to make the Mario Brothers movie?

  • May 13, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    A word to the wise Moriarty

    by Call me Hal

    Never argue with an idiot, its impossible to win. This movie was incredible. It was exactly what it should neh, needed to be. Im glad it didnt do well. Now, we wont get 2 shitty sequels ala the Matrix.

  • May 13, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    The 2001 "shot" was like 5 seconds long in Speed

    by Mace Tofu

    so I think it was a homage to 2001. Before I went to the movie some reviews said there was an hour of talking before the race or the "2001" ending was 30 minutes long. Another review said the movie stopped at one point to stage a big fight with the actors in Still photos. Did that happen? Again it was a shot or two in a 5 minute fight but the reviewer made it sound like the whole fight was done with stills of the actors. Reading 4 days worth of reviews before seeing SR I went in with the list of their complaints but what the movie is and what most of those reviews bitched about are two different things. The worst thing you can really say about SR is it is a rip-off Speed Racer the cartoon. Pretty much everything in the movie was stolen from the cartoon. The only thing missing was a Dragon sub and some giant monkeys and panthers running around. Johnno, I do agree with you about those 7 minutes. I watched them about 10 times on a 42 inch LCD and the action was easy to follow but in the theater I lost my geography when the M6 was riding the rails. I definitely noticed that happened and I knew what was going on screen but still enjoyed it.

  • May 13, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST

    SGT. Rock

    by Munro Kelly

    I remember when Silver wanted to do it around 91. John McTiernan was going to direct. That would have been great. First Arnold was starring than talks of Bruce Willis. I wish Silver would work with directors like McTiernan again. I think he's getting carried away with the Bros. I think it's time they part company. I think Guy Ritchie is the wrong choice for SGT. Rock.

  • May 13, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    This SHOULD Have Been A Huge Hit

    by LaserPants

    But it wasn't. I'm sad about that, but not surprised. SPEED RACER isn't really all that well known. People have vague memories of it, but, for them most part, it was always leaning more towards cult then mainstream. Making this one of the most expensive cult movies in history. Then again, maybe history will be kind to this. TRON and BLADE RUNNER were both flops in their time, and are now regarded as classics (more so for BLADE RUNNER, but I've heard many film fans going apeshit with love for TRON as well). As much as it saddens me that the movie failed, I'm glad it got made, and I'm glad that I'll be able to own it on DVD one day soon. Also, I'm glad that the toys will be going on sale for dirt cheap soon! I have the 1:24 scale one, now I wanna get all the little Hot Wheel dealies.

  • May 13, 2008, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Mace Tofu

    by Series7

    So does that mean you liked it?

  • May 13, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Munro Kelly

    by Series7

    I don't think McTiernan would make a good movie from behind bars? And if he's out of prison, his movies have sucked as of late.

  • May 13, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Motoko Kusanagi

    by JackinNYC

    You are sooooo right. What a pretentious, shilling, jackass. As for Speedie…I was very disappointed. For many reasons, stated many times on many sites. Suffice to say, when a film is all about the ‘look’ and becomes the story instead of servicing the story it is bound to fail. Watching this movie was like looking through a kaleidoscope for over 2 hours. There – nuff said. I don’t need to write a ‘war & peace’ diatribe to make my point, Mr. Plant.

  • May 13, 2008, 4:28 p.m. CST

    But SPEED RACER Does Have A Good Story!

    by LaserPants

    You've got your family versus corporate control, you've got your brother emulating brother, you've got your tragic family secrets, you got your kid and monkey like candy, you got your sweet chaste romance with a crazy hot girl in wholesome (yet crazy sexy) fetish wear, you got everything! AND YOU MISSED IT! Duh! Run, don't walk to the nearest IMAX and see it before they replace it with something that actually does suck, not one of the most visually daring and insane movies of the decade.

  • May 13, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

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    by Chishu_Ryu

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  • May 13, 2008, 4:52 p.m. CST

    There was plenty good enough story JackinNYC

    by Johnno

    And more importantly, characters too! But you're so busy looking for plants with roots shoved up your ass that you can't see the forest for the trees!

  • May 13, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Sorry about above post

    by Chishu_Ryu

    My own version of Spritle/ChimChim got a hold of the computer when I wasn't looking....

  • May 13, 2008, 5:32 p.m. CST

    How the hell did he get two lines in the header?

    by Chishu_Ryu

  • May 13, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST

    IWonderIfYouCanGetTwoLinesInTheHeaderIfYouDon'tUseSpacesLikeYouD

    by LaserPants

    I wonder.

  • May 13, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    Was totally ready to see this

    by Bass Ackwards

    but for whatever reason its not playing in IMAX in my city. I'll watch just about any movie IMAX, was dissapointed to see this one was skipping my town.

  • May 13, 2008, 9:19 p.m. CST

    Its a shame this film is financially a flop

    by TRON

    I wouldn't call this a Waterworld by box office figures yet... I think it's a shame when a film is carefully thought out not "slapped" together, but still flops. Will the Wachowski brothers get the financial backing for their next adventure? tune in next time.......

  • May 13, 2008, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Hey was...

    by JackinNYC

    Well I am a big fan of the show, Watched it as a kid. And my review is all over here - u must not be looking hard enough (read others as well) or u are just another shill. The movie was so much worse than the cartoon I remember. For all the reasons I mentioned. Period.

  • May 14, 2008, 1:11 a.m. CST

    I am sitting here angry.

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    I just cannot believe this movie tanked. Those of you who are dissing this movie and have not seen it need to shut the fuck up. <BR> <BR> Look I am not excited about the new Indy movie. I think it looks like shit. I also thought that Speed Racer was going to be total shit and I was wrong, dead fucking wrong. Speed Racer was amazing. Indy still looks like a total turd. But I will go see it and if it's good I will say it was good and that the trailer did not do it justice. My gut tells me it's going to suck. <BR> <BR> What sold me on Speed Racer and what I thought was a smart move was that 7 mins of the film they put on the internet. Prior to I was not really that interested from the trailers but the 7 mins made me realize what they were going for and that the movie had some heart. I still think the trailers for Speed Racer are terrible. Who ever edited those IMO didn't take the parts of the movie they should have tried to sell but that's just me. <BR> <BR> It is a real shame this movie tanked. I hope it does get a HUGE cult following on Blu-ray and I can't wait to hear the whiners who cry they wish they would have seen it on the big screen when they had a chance. Boo fucking hoo. <BR> <BR> BTW the one idiot poster who made a comment that those who loved Speed Racer loved the Prequels to Star Wars is wrong. The prequels were and always will be total shit. Fuck George Lucas and his Star Wars mess and fuck you to that poster who assumes that we are all alike as movie fans.

  • May 14, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    What would have helped this movie

    by Series7

    I think is if they didn't push the FROM THE DIRECTORS OF THE MATRIX so hard in the marketing. I bet there was some backlash from that, I know it can't be blamed for the entire low numbers. I still say that they should have waited till December to release this. Something to counter award season fair. And it wouldn't have wound up with all the second week of the summer backlash, where critics can't handle having two great movies in a row, they needed a failure.

  • May 14, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    mmmmmm??

    by pinklunch

    just came home from watching it at an imax theatre, and haven't quite made my mind up what i made of it. never having seen the original cartoon and not being a child obviously hindered the experience somewhat, and there times where i had to cringe in disbelief at what i was putting myself through, but overall i think it was an incredibly brave movie and also totally groundbreaking in its visual style. the main problem for me is that the majority of the inspiring visuals were so intense, complex and creatively thought out, (many obviously inspired by early experimental avant garde animation etc), it kinda conflicted with the very simple, childlike plot, cartoon acting and hyper-real fisher price style of the rest of the movie. sometimes watching it u ask yourself why bother even having real actors in it at all!?...and i'm sure if it was totally lacking in 'real people' perhaps it wouldn't be getting all the bad press its ultimately doesn't really deserve. yes its a confusing film, far from perfect, but nothing close to a disaster, and at times definitely breathtaking.

  • Yeah, I'd say that's how a lot of people read that promotional tag...

  • May 14, 2008, 9:22 p.m. CST

    shark"

    by ckane123

    That's what that last message header should have said. Sorry. Loses its effectiveness, now. Ahem.

  • May 18, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Joel Silver producer of Jumpin' Jack Flash

    by 1922

  • May 19, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    "SPEED RACER" would've benefited greatly with a shorter cut.

    by JDanielP

    Even though I appreciate how "less is more" applies to art, I'm usually not in the camp for cutting motion pictures to a shorter length...unless you want to argue over editing. Peter Jackson's "KING KONG" has been mentioned (in previous AICN talkbacks) as a flick that needed trimming. But Jackson's "KING KONG" happens to be a personal favorite of mine. --Sorry, I'm getting off subject. Anyway, "SPEED RACER" was okay. If you're looking for a report card, I could only give it a grade C. (My wife already had low expectations but in the end, gave it more credit than I did. And our child enjoyed it, well enough.) But I must say that...I really feel that..."SPEED RACER" would have benefited greatly with a much leaner cut. I also feel that both the story and acting could have been elevated to something more...which is, quite frankly, a huge challenge when blending reality with the unreal. In fact, I would argue that the greatest challenge is the resistance of an audience to accept such a visual blending,...as such visual style does fight what we know is real. The story and the words and the acting need to feel REAL (or to the high standards of a Pixar animation or the original "MEN IN BLACK", for example), while the visual interpretation has the freedom to take on a different life. In a movie like this, I think it's about elevating the material for adults while catering to the family unit,...knowing where and how to self-censor,...and make such an unreal reality all a world of it's own. --I've said before that my favorite comic books are those that feel REAL, even within such a fantasy (world) and the visual artistry on every page. To me, "BATMAN BEGINS" is a success in how it feels more REAL,...in that it does not "distance us" from the fantasy material. (Judging from the what I've seen thus far, "THE DARK KNIGHT" looks to do the same.) However, I'm always looking for the uncanny ability (in a director) to retain this feeling of reality...while giving us the incredible visuals and movement (via camera and choreography) that we crave. Sure, eye-candy is just eye-candy. Without the meat of a story, you've got nothing. But when we get a full meal with a dessert to top it off,...then THAT becomes something else entirely. So, I'll end this with asking all of Hollywood, "What kind of restaurant studio are you?"

  • May 21, 2008, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Flash minus coherence = absolute bullshit

    by TallBoy66

    Sure, they did a live-action anime. A few shots are cool, I get it. But the movie is not as cool as it pretends to be, simply whizzing by chaotically for 2 hours does not a visual extravaganza make. In the end, the movie is simply just irritatingly overindulgent. And it had a monkey flinging crap joke. Fuck this movie.