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Derek Flint compares INDY 4 favorably to WRATH OF KHAN! Plus new trailer in glorious Quicktime HD!
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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Call me optimistic, but this is the first review that we've gotten that gives me a lot of hope for the movie. The themes this movie plays with, according to Mr. Flint, to me signals the kind of movie I was hoping for.
Before you dive into the review, though, scope out trailer #3:
WHIP IT HERE! WHIP IT GOOD!
It's a weird trailer, that adds seconds onto scenes we've already seen with a few interesting glimpses at new footage (like the crop circle spider thing). It's not the best edited trailer... some shots going on for a few seconds too long, but there's some really cool stuff in there.
Okay, now on to Flint's review, which I believe is our first review from a known spy and past contributor. Enjoy!
Only Mild Spoilers
First off, Indiana Jones isn’t my cinematic nirvana. It’s not a seminal movie going experience for me like most people.
Ultimately, what I’ve enjoyed most about the films is revisiting them with groups of friends over the years. Watching “Indy” is a truly fun thing to share.
I enjoyed “Raiders of the Lost Ark.” After all, who doesn’t? Yet, it didn’t engage my emotions in the same way the first two “Superman” movies did or even the original “Star Trek” film series. ROTLA is a thrill ride that’s built for speed. Its classic status is underscored by how well it holds up decades and imitators later.
Aside from the frenetic opening, I found “Indiana Jones & the Temple of Doom” a bore. Kate Capshaw’s performance sunk every scene and Harrison Ford’s line reading of “We… are… going… to die!” still makes me cringe. Nevertheless, I find the film fascinating in retrospect, hearing George Lucas’ proclamation that the dark tone was the result of his wrenching divorce. That explains all the hearts being ripped out.
What I liked most about “Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade” was the father & son relationship between Ford and Sean Connery. I respected the desire to add dimension to the main character and also the resolution, wherein Indy used his wits to save his old man. (Although, I agree with those who say Connery should have taken the knight’s place and stayed behind.)
I never thought I’d see another Indiana Jones film, but after the return of Rocky, Rambo, and McClane… it became inevitable. (Catherine Trammel’s return doesn’t count. Sorry, this is a gentlemen’s club.)
George Lucas should be commended for truth in advertising. He predicted that, after so much anticipation, no movie could ever meet the expectation of a rapid fan whose spent the last two decades imagining the ultimate Indiana Jones adventure in his mind.
Given the iconic place these films hold, Steven Spielberg also didn’t set out to reinvent the wheel and fix what ostensibly isn’t broken. Sorry, a PG-13 “Die Hard” where helicopters explode and occupants pirouette out and land safely isn’t “Die Hard.” It’s “Die Soft.”
During his Comic Con presentation, Spielberg said he was making this film for the fans. He certainly didn’t have to, as he can get any studio in town to greenlight a can of baked beans as a new movie.
So, Mr. Spielberg… thank you. Thank you for making an Indiana Jones film for all those around the world who wanted another one.
Thank you for making a film that fits comfortably within the canon you helped invent.
Thank you for recapturing the spirit of your previous direction of the series, while also adding some subtle meditations that your later “serious” pictures have employed.
Also, thank you for reminding us that Harrison Ford is indeed a major movie star who can hold the screen at any age, just like all the other greats… Marvin, Holden, McQueen and Wayne.
“Indiana Jones & The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” blends many of the divergent elements of the first three. The jeopardy and stakes of the first. The darkness and rituals of the second. The generational differences, relationships and humor of the third.
Oddly enough, the mix reminded me of a non-Indy movie, “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan,” wherein an aging, melancholy hero is galvanized back into action, reclaiming meaning for his latter day existence. It even has a similar relationship with a young man who has a large chip on his shoulder, for very good reasons, and a woman from his past reappearing. Marion Ravenwood’s name carries similar feelings as “Carol Marcus” in this context.
I’ve read another reviewer of this film claiming disappointment the character of Indiana Jones wasn’t accorded the same introspection and ruminations of the last Rocky Balboa outing. The first and last “Rocky” movies, before the sequels became cartoonish caricatures, were both human dramas. They were character pieces heavy on dialogue and building towards inevitable finales in the ring. Indiana Jones is an action adventure series. While Indy acknowledges his advanced age, he does it in the context of how things are handled in “Indiana Jones” fashion. That doesn’t mean halting his exploits to pontificate ostentatiously on mortality. Sorry, "It's not the mileage, it's the years" fits this world. Unlike Rocky, Indy steps into the ring for combat after the first reel.
What I loved most about the 1950s’ milieu KOTCS takes place in, which Lucas still has his “American Graffiti” affinity for, is how Dr. Jones is now truly just a senior member of a college faculty. There’s no way the young people around him could ever imagine this educator to be a world traveler and adventurer. He's the old guy, off in the corner, in the malt shop.
The atomic age motif works like a charm with a sequence set in “Doomtown” being particularly memorable not just for its jeopardy, but also a subversive satirical streak. The Russians more or less act like the Nazis in the first and third film, with a similar trace of historical accuracy underpinning the proceedings.
People have been gunning for Shia LeBeouf’s character from the beginning, but the actor more than holds his own against a formidable leading man. Young Shia adds a lot to the proceedings, is physically adept and enjoys solid interplay with Ford… especially being the brunt of a lot of Dr. Jones’ acerbic sarcasm.
Ray Winstone is a resourceful actor, making more out of his subordinate character than another performer would. Karen Allen is a welcome return as Marion although, I’ll admit, she’s not as pivotal to this film as I’d hoped. The initial dialogue between Indy and his old flame crackles like from the first film, so it comes as no surprise that writer David Koepp in a recent interview acknowledges he sought help from original ROTA screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan for this exchange.
Cate Blanchett’s Soviet Agent Spalko was not at all what I was expecting, especially her being a disciple of the fabled “thought police,” but once again… Russian obsession with ESP and psychic warfare are well documented. Ms. Blanchett engages in a psychological battle with our hero and her performance is so peculiar that on occasion I thought she was being directed by David Lynch. She distinguishes the film from all the others with her singular presence.
The crystal skulls and their extraterrestrial origin are dealt with from an archeological standpoint so, despite outcries that science fiction doesn’t belong in the Indy series, it’s consistent with the previously established mysticism that’s come before. The culmination of this legend during the finale doesn’t have the old style Hollywood theological impact of the first film, nor the emotional payoff of the third, but it’s way better than the second. If anything, a lot of the finale’s destruction and conversion reminded me of “Total Recall,” but don’t take that as a debit. You’ll see what I mean.
Some will say this movie is overstuffed, but I viewed it as a second trilogy all rolled into one. There may never be another Indiana Jones film, so they went for broke with nonstop set pieces that remind us Steven Spielberg can easily best anyone currently making their career as an action director. Some of his “old fashioned” techniques serve as a revelation in the wake of current post "Matrix" styles. His long lasting shots without frenetic cutting are particularly enthralling to behold. Still, I do feel we were bamboozled at bit by their saying CGI was underemployed… especially when one of the villains is dispatched by teeming insects vacationing from “Jurassic Park.”
I also liked the fond, deferential ending a lot, as Indiana Jones movies seem to have a subliminal “To Be Continued…” during their codas. Still, this feels like the last one, but so did “The Last Crusade.” While they did ride off into the sunset there, Harrison Ford reminds us in an interview: "The sun came up the next day."
One thing’s for sure, after the lights come up... true fans and new ones will continue “the man in the hat’s” adventures in their imaginations.
While I can’t profess to know what Indiana Jones movie people will be expecting to see at 12:01 on May 22nd, I can say this about the one Lucas, Spielberg and Ford have given us: I liked it, a lot.
And like all the others, I’ll look forward to seeing it again with friends and having a good time. Sometimes, that’s what a good movie is for.
Derek Flint
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After two lukewarm reviews,
This looks very promising. Hope to see other good reviews -
And first, maybe?
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I wasn't born when the last Indy movie came out, and I've been hoping against hope that this one will turn out well. Plant though this may be, a positive review gives me some more hope going into my midnight screening....
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It's nice to read something so even keeled. that one Merrick put up was more one sided and poorly written. Lets say it kids, they obviously hit some "Classic Indy" 3 pointers. The negs on this are paper thin. Ask yourself if you want to like this movie...
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"Unlike Rocky, Indy steps into the ring for combat after the first reel."
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May 10, 2008 9:11:31 AM CDT
Iknow its early sat, but I want to see those paper thin hater ar
by g-ride9000
what the fuck do I pay the the new ATT for all this band with if nerds sleep in on saturday.
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(robot voice) this movie rules, i am a sexy robot, you are a terd burger, g-ride out.
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who can not be excited about this film. I liked the new trailer. I think extending the scenes add just a little more impact.
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Wow, that is nice, and that is what WE hope to see...
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Sounds like it's gonna do exactly what it says on the tin. Can't wait.
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Big green leafy plant.
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This reveiw seems a lot more legitimate than the first few, and not just because it's more positive-although I can't help but love THAT!! I think all these naysayers that have been pushing their questionable cinematic "wisdom" in recent days are going to be proven wrong in a big way come May 22. I know I'll be grinning, and so will all the other fans of these magnificent action/adventure masterpieces. GO INDY!!!
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May 10, 2008 9:34:53 AM CDT
Remember when people claimed the Pirates of the Carribean...
by rbatty024
trilogy was the new Indiana Jones or new Star Wars. There was also the same talk about The Matrix movies. It's kind of sad that no one has been able to replicate the thrills of the old masters. Both trilogies had terrible second and third installments. There just wasn't enough for more than one film. It'll be nice to have Spielberg back to show the youngsters how it's done.
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Not to get picky, but it was Spielberg that was having the messy divorce.
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the only thing planted on this page is your sense of entitlement. This review makes real points about plot points, cinematography and acting. There is not one unjustified point in the whole artical. You are also a douch.
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To show the national treasure generation how its done.
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The second best from the three.
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Spielberg AND Lucas were both going through/had just been through messy divorces at the time.
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POTC is a trilogy of great adventure movies with an original, but not too original twist and sequels that are both loved and hated by the same amount of people, while the whole thing is some popcultural phenomenon without being THAT big phenomenon that Star Wars is (But seriously: There will never be something like "The next Star Wars", especially not in this cynical time we live in.).
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kind of make sense for the time period the film takes place in, I guess I can buy it now.
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Interesting. Especially considering the not necessarily Indy-loving place Derek Flint is coming from.
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That read less like a review and more like damage control. Of course, right out of the gate, I can't take it seriously because it implies with a straight face that Last Crusade is better than Temple of Doom. Whoops.
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......At least SEE the movie before you plant a positive review on this site. This 'review' is too vague to be real. The negative reviews had far more detail about specific plot points. And this review isn't even positive. It's defensive - and it's asking us not to give poor old KOTCS a hard time over its obvious failings. After all, the people involved are dear old senior citizens. So that excuses them making such a bad movie? They should have known better than to make it in the first place.
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May 10, 2008 10:04:10 AM CDT
the fact that this reviewer didn't like "temple of doom" ...
by toe jam
totally negates any stock i put in his critique.
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Every review is either critical or defending it due to the Indy legacy. But what the hell is actually GREAT about this movie??? Not much, it seems. After 20 years people don't want just another installment, one that's worse than Crusade. For all its flaws TPM certainly wasn't that. I commend Lucas for what he did with TPM (not AOTC and ROTS though, which should have been written and directed by others)
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come on!
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Please explain FUKIN FRIDGE SCENE
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Holy Jesus, I don't believe it. The story's about returning a 'crystal skull' to temple.....? Are you f**king kidding me? THAT'S the mcguffin that Lucas has been holding out for? Holding out FOR TWENTY YEARS? HA HA! Jesus. I've never seen such a lazy, half-hearted trailer. It looks unfinished - edited by people who had better things to do, and who in the end couldn't be bothered. Does ANYONE at Lucasfilm actually care about this franchise? Jesus, they keep using that shot of some kid in an Indy costume swinging off the top of a crate. I thought this movie was about the old Indiana Jones - not Young Indiana Jones. The whole thing's a joke.
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little Suburb Shia to start girlie punching some chicks.
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These are the Lines of Nazca, and aren't alien, my ancestor draw them following constellations to know when harvest.
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Just please don't tell me that Indy gets into the spaceship.
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Scotsman should be banned like that "Russian dancer" extra was cut from the movie.
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is that Janusz Kaminski still insits on smoking out the frame and making all the light glow and halo. I can deal with it in other films. I think it worked well in war of the worlds the way they blended the effects with that look. But goddamn this is an indy film! none of the others look like that and it's just annoying to me now. I'm over it. It should look crisp, you should see the dirt on their faces. the lights should produce animorphic flares as the pass the edges of the frames! just like the other movies! Is this fogging supposed to show that indy is older? that everything is slightly blurred the indy's old eyes? Oh i dunno. Who with me on this??!?! Anyone? no... ok. forget it. YAY INDY
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I liked how pissed off at Willie Scott and I thought it was supposed to be intentionally funny. Anyway this and Harry Steele's review gives me hope. I was actually hoping from what I've read from spoilers about age and father and son and an old flame that it would be like "Wrath of Kahn" in a good way. Star Trek II is the only Trek movie that's as great as the classic series IMO.
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Upon it's initial release? I know in 1989, without much of an internet to speak of, there wasn't a forum for nerd backlash. I was 10 when it came out and I loved it, along with the other Indy movies. But I was young. I didn't react the same way to the Prequels. I liked them but they don't mean as much to me as the original trilogy does. That being said, I have young cousins who love the prequels as much as they love the original trilogy. What am I trying to say? You've grown up, you've aged, you've seen a lot of bad knock-off movies and you're jaded. Indy 4 will never be as good as the original 3 were to you.
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is my fav line! what makes it great is the ridiculous look he gives after it and they hold on it just long enough for it to sink in and become hilarious hahahaha. DOOM is my favorite out of the 3. always has been and probably always will be. I still think it has the best set pieces and the best creepy crawlies.
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WHY ARE YOU YELLING SO MUCH?
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So let's recap: we have four reviews.Two say the movie is awful.One says it's not awful, just mediocre. Great.Now this review apologises for the movie and asks us to give it a chance??Doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Added to that is another of these strangely boring trailers. What are Lucasfilm playing at? Usually, the best scenes are in the trailer (then you go to the movie and discover that it doesn't live up to the promise of the trailer). That's the point of trailers: to hype the movie up and get you excited.But the Indy 4 trailers are different. Are Lucasfilm DELIBERATELY making dull trailers to lower public expectations? wouldn't be surprised - especially after the Phantom Menace disaster.
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no!!!!!!!!!!!
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Yeah, please stop yelling.
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"His long lasting shots without frenetic cutting are particularly enthralling to behold." Yup, the master is back.
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Why the capitals? Why no punctuation or complete sentences? Makes it very hard to understand what you're saying.
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Oh, hoo-Ray! Merriman Lyon is back. And he still has nothing positive or worthwhile to say, as continued predilection for irrelevancy demonstrates. This is gonna be one fun day!
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because that was the entire point of Raiders and the whole thing. A little inside joke that has nostalgic elements at every turn. This jungle serial on steroids was great because its mash-up theme benefited from the modern film techniques and visual effects. Regardless of their plot point choices within the framework, the framework seems to have stayed intact for KOTCS. As far as those plot details, each film has their giant boulders and also their willie scotts. SO STOP HATING AND THINK, HAVE A DISCUSSION.Does this film's choice of plot points work with in the pre-established framework?Do those plot point represent the good taste of the original?LET DISCUSS SOMETHING WORTH WHILE
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Away and watch Speed Racer and Narnia.
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We have to put things in perspective, Raiders is a classic that still holds up today, and TOD & TLC were fun 2-hour rides that hold up pretty well. What makes Indiana Jones iconic......Indiana Jones! I will say it and say it again as to why people didn't love the Prequels, or say movies today that are catered to action and CGI, ITS THE CHARACTERS STUPID!!! When you create an iconic character, you have an affection for that person on screen, and you will atleast enjoy it, whether it is great or good. People had problems with the PT cause they didn't care about Padme & Anakin, and in some ways Kenobi, and if you put Luke, Leia, and Han in those same situations, we may still not love it, but we will atleast care! Indiana Jones is just cool, he is the John Wayne/Steve McQueen/Humphrey Bogart of action films, and that is why people will enjoy this film. John McClaine, John Rambo, Rocky Balboa are all able to have sequels after the fact because they are great characters. I don't think Indy IV will be a cinematic classic, but if you enjoy the series, how can you hate the film?
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Um the first two reviews looked fake. The third was very positive and this one is even more so positive. By my count thats 2-0. Positive reviews win.
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scotsman75 nothing u are saying hasn't already been said
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Just like I expected to see people walk out when they head plastic heads metling/exploding in raiders?
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Just like I expected to see people walk out when they had plastic heads melting/exploding in raiders?
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He didn't see the movie. This review sounds promising.
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I was really harboring hope for this movie, despite Shia LeDouche. With everything more I see.. that hope dwindles more and more. That trailer makes INDY 4 look like about as much fun as LAWRENCE WELK.
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Definitely not as believable as ghosts flying out of the arc. No way, no how.
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it seems like he gets it and isn't too serious about it at the same time.
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(robot voice)U R A ROBOT CUNT>>>YOU USE OIL FOR ROBOT LUBE>>>YOUR GIRLFRIEND IS A MALFUNCTIONING NORTON COMMANDO 850. ADIOS TURD NUGGETS!!!!!!!
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lucas was right -- people expect this to be the second coming. objectively, it probably fits right alongside the rest of the films in terms of action/quality. spielberg did this by design. and, had he not, ya'll would still be complaining. the foregoing notwithstanding, the majority of the movie-going public will completely dig this movie, as this site makes up a .000001% fraction of same.
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YOU'RE A FUCKING ASSHOLE!
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..."Harrison Ford’s line reading of “We… are… going… to die!” still makes me cringe."
Clearly this person has no sense of humor or comedic timing, and sees these films as background noise while he's attempting to read Faulkner or something. I could care less about his opinion on the matter, positive or not. -
There is no competition here. The two films come out nearly TWO months apart, they appeal to different demographics, and they aren't in the same genre. They're both "hero" films, but you can't for one second tell me batman is anything akin to indy. If anything, Indy's main competition is the MUMMY 3. Puh-lease.
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No, the first two reviews are only 'fake' to people who don't like what they say. They are detailed and balanced in tone - and do not show any particular agenda. They are pretty unremarkable, actually. They have been 'called into question' by people who DO have an agenda: fanboys. If those reviews were for any other movie, no one would doubt them for a second.Review no.3 says it's better than the mediocre Last Crusade - but NOT AS GOOD as the equally-mediocre Temple Of Doom. That's not a recommendation to a lot of fans who - like me - think the sequels were very inferior to the original Raiders. I remember that even Spielberg officially apologised for Temple Of Doom in the years following its release.This reviewer compares KOTCS to Wrath of Kahn (a pretty good movie) only in terms of some plot similarities. He does NOT compare it in terms of quality. His overall tone is more one of apology - not of recommendation. And frankly, if I were to question the authenticity of any of these reviews, it would be this one: it's very, very light on specific details.
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suck a turd dick-less wonder. let me know when your indy movie comes out testicle tumor.
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well put, you are a film scholar among dipshit Scotsmen.cameron seems to have that one down, and sometimes de palma. I feel like Ridley had it, then lost it, but now kinda regained that control a little...Your thoughts on these guys....
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that Suburb Shia actually holds his own alongside Ford? I find that hard to believe.
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Those negative reviews were written by film geeks -- agree or disagree? If they posted on this site, they aren't representative of the average filmgoer, nor are they representative of the average critic. Yes?
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And well thought out, everything in the right place. This is actually the first Indy review I've read, and probably the last. This one was nice and level, answered a few questions, gave away a few small bits, but didn't go too far to either side of praise or bashing. Like everyone else, I have my own expectations, and I'd rather go in feeling level, or even positive, than looking out for the negative things I might have read.
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everything that lucas said would happen IS happening. It's almost comical. if raiders came out today, for the first time, I'm sure the people on this site would rip it apart. "the sets look fake," "the arc attacking scene looks corny," "the action's too slow." give me a break. And what's with all of the speed racer love on this site? the critical consensus is that Speed Racer is a cinematic abomination. Yet this site bashes indy? One of the reasons I'm guess this site exists? Huh? And Sarah Marshall is AWESOME? HUH!? I bet if that hill dude from superbad was in shia's role, this reviewers on this site would be lovin' it up.
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Just need to know what goes down in Area 51.
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thats awesome. i love me some eric von doniken truth bombs. alien mythology belongs in indiana jones as much as jesus, moses, atlantis and the indian religion thing. i cant wait, if i was 10 i would love this without any bullshit knickpicking, but i wouldn't be about the movie bneing boring or sow at any points caue you know it's not gonna be that way, any talky scenes are there to move the plot forward.
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'Film geeks' are human beings too. There's nothing about any of these four reviews that suggests they weren't written by reasonably intelligent, articulate adults. Their opinions are valid, just like yours or mine.
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if that had gone down, this site would have been on cloud 9, no doubt.
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That's because nobody here gives a shit about Speed Racer but we do give a shit about Indy. We just don't want to see Lucas and company sodomize the series like we all know he's capable of.
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pretty please?
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...and its horrible. If you don't think Lucas is a hack after this AND the prequels, then you're either delusional or in denial. Everything you'd think is going to be revealed and happen, does. This is a typical Lucas/Spielberg "for the fans" cop-out. Now, the most interesting part of all of this is the excuses fans will make up to defend it. I think Harry and Quint's introductions to these reviews pretty much scream "I'm giving this movie a positive review no matter what!". It'll be fascinating to hear Moriarty's take. But, it'll probably be much of the same "Is it prefect? No. But, damned if I didn't have a great time!" I'm sure we won't be able to count on a comparison of the movie with Frank Darabot's script; that will show the obvious kinks in Lucas' armor. Even though Moriarty is supposedly friends with Darabot, and is already in Lucasfilm's bad graces. Yep, this'll be a typical "If you don't like this movie, then you don't GET movies" senario that's become all too familiar for AICN these past years. Its as if the fanboy community has given up on blockbusters being fun AND extremely well-made like they used to. Just include some throw-backs and homages to those movies, make it "fun", and you'll get a favorable review. I mean, X-MEN 3, TRANSFORMERS, FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER, getting good reviews? Really? Fandom made excuses for the SW prequels the same blindly way that born-again Christians make excuses for the Bush adminstration. I for one, do NOT want to settle for "well, its fun" or "at least it took the source material seriously". I want the same great movies I grew up with. And I don't mean the same FEELINGS I got watching them. I want them just as well-made and original. But, how is that going to happen if we keep giving working film-makers today free passes? Especially the same film-makers who MADE these great movies of yesteryear? Zemekis, ANOTHER Christmas Carol? Really? Cameron, a story about a guy who goes to a planet with giant cats, ala WIZARD OF OZ? Really? Lucas, a clone wars animated feature AND live-action SW TV show? Really? Spielberg, ANOTHER Indian Jones movie where he's old and you have to pair him up with his long-lost son and Marion? Really? Miller, HAPPY-FUCKING-FEET?? And, what do we have in the "up-and-coming" department of blockbuster movie makers? Stephen Summers? Tim Story? The guy from SWINGERS? The guy from THE LAST SEDUCTION. WILLAIM-FUCKING-RIKER from the Next Generation?? Yes, IRON MAN was okay, but, does it really compare to the movies we all grew up with? And again, not in FEELING. Not in HOMAGE. And yes, there's Nolan and Singer (even though he managed to make Superman boring) but, even their movies, that I've seen (haven't see Dark Knight yet), don't compare. They're like very precise intellectual exercises, where they make sure to cover all the rules of screenwriting that Terry Rosiaro has come up with in his Wordplay columns. Which is what Kasdan and all the other great writers and film-makers from the past did as well, but, their films never FELT as if some screenwriter was tacking up index cards on a bulletin board while you watched them. Where's the magic? Do you really think 3-D will save us? Do we really need an IMAX screen to get back to what we all grew up with? I don't think so. I believe a better and less costly way is to criticise these movies that come out now when they don't deliver. No more free passes for "just okay" or "it was fun". Time to get back to work. Break time's over.
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I agree. I'm just saying they're not representative of the average filmgoer. And, of course, I value their opinions. And, of course, I think they'll see this movie in droves -- even if they think it sucks. Same thing happened with the prequels. They're still film fans, at the end of the day.
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All I want to know is, what happens with the ark?
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Go fuck yourself already! nobody wants to read your childish CAPITALIZED rants every other post ok? you clearly have or border on a mental instability to be so worked up over a movie you still have yet to see. Somewhere in your ypbringing someone never taught you haw to temper your disapointment i guess, cause ranting like you are on an internet talk board about a movie that you have predetermined to hate and tear down without any first hand knowledge reeks of a mental problem.
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But the point still stands
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So what happens to it?
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the ufo at the end fucking rocked. scottsman was to busy getting his diaper changed by his dad to understand the significance of what happens at the end.
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It IS about the character, and that, too, was my only concern about the film. But, Ford looks like he's up to the task, and the trailers indicate just that. I can't believe the people on this site wanted someone else cast as Indy. FORD IS INDY. Indy lives with ford and dies with ford -- PERIOD. The reason the character is so awesome is because FORD made him awesome. Many others have tried to play indy (frazier in the mummy, hairless cage in national treasure, jolly in tomb raider, matthew magagsneyey in sahara, etc, etc, etc), and they all failed miserably. MISERABLY. No one is indy BUT ford. Hell, the reason the PREQEULS sucked was because they lacked a Han-solo type of character. They lacked Ford. When ford is on -- he's on.
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I'm sorry that line is awesome. That is all
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I have a problem with 20 + posts in CAPS just spewing out hate and Venom with no intelligent discussion or ctiticism behind it . I doubt Scotsman even tried or wanted to like this movie....just a hunch.
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Seriously, I know you're just pissing on it because you've swallowed too much cum and it's warped your brain, but this sounds fucking tops. Great work cock muncher!
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but "yea, ALL of us" was my favorte delivered line
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You'd think Ford and company was coming to your house and lighting a turn on fire on your front step. All I'm asking for is to be entertained for a while for my $10, which I know Indy will do. Raiders, Temple of Doom and Last Crusade did that back in the day and in a few weeks Crystal Skull will carry forth that legacy. The Indy movies are not some cinematic holy grail (and neither are the original Star Wars films), despite my deep and abiding love for them (and the original trilogy). Its a frakking movie. There are many, many things Hollywood does that will work me into a angry frenzy (talk of remaking Casablanca being #1 on the list) but releasing a new Indiana Jones movie isn't one of them. I know that when I go opening weekend with my two older sons (ages 9 and 12) that we're going to be thoroughly entertained which is the entire reason I watch movies.
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Has anyone ever noticed that Indy never got to keep any of the treasures he was looking for except the cross thing at the beginning of Crusade? Does he finally get to keep a treasure in IJ4?
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I think Spielberg is one of the few who hasn't lost his touch. Catch Me if You can is an absolute classic and I also enjoyed Minority Report despite Tom Cruise. Even when he has a miss, like Terminal, at least it's an interesting movie. He's not afraid of moving away from his comfort zone. I love how he says he made the new Indy movie basically because it would be fun. Hopefully that attitude translates into the final product.
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...and everyone of you nay-saying, "PLANT!"-shouting, failure-cheering, parent's basement-dwelling, overweight, cheetos-scarfing, self-abusing, bearded, goateed...........um, where was I?
Oh yeah.
FUCK YOU!
cunts.
With all my venom.
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SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP , MATE
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May 10, 2008 11:34:21 AM CDT
meesa called mutt williams meesa your humble servant
by larrythecableguy
"that won't be neccesary"
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Why don't you pack up your foul-mouthed ramblings and head to your room. I think your time would be better spent playing with toy phasers in your make-believe engine room. Leave these talkbacks to people who actually give a damn.
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What a total and utter prick.
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Though I do find it funny that he hasn't ripped Shia apart. Could it be true that he actually did a good job in this movie?
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Seriously.
Sorry about that.
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I hear the cloverfield monster makes a cameo in this movie, and then gizmo fights in him Mortal Kombat!
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Let's give Shia, and everykne else in this film and behind the scenes of this film the chance. I'm betting they made a movie that we'll enjoy and that they will be proud of.
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Wouldn't it be cool, and fitting, if the series ends with the fertility idol back in Indy's hands...just the way it all started, from our vantage point? : )
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all the bad reviews seem to "nitpick" and involve their personal feelings while the good ones use context and detail.... just a thought
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than the others.
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May 10, 2008 11:47:05 AM CDT
maybe its the music is more peppy
by lloyd bonafide the korean war veteran
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Megamonki has just put forth what many of us have been thinking since these INDY 4 reviews and talkbacks started. He hits the nail on the head. Why do these people feel the need to tear this film to pieces when it isn't even out yet? I do not lend any credence whatsoever to any of the negative bullshit these fanboy wannabes are putting forth.
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That's exactly what I thought.
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I think this is the first time they appear in a movie, It's a shame Maria Reich is not alive to see it. Probably she would said "For God's sake it's not alien!!" lol
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Hey, Herb, if you're still out there, I have a question for you. How long have you been a voice of reason on these talkbacks?
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I try my best, but it's hard sometimes. :)
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Y'know, it's hard to be civil and try to have an intelligent conversation when you're surrounded by all this unfounded negativity. The crap that some of these numbskulls resort to saying is not intelligent or amusing. Why do they waste their time? I Do enjoy talking with others about film, even when their opinions don't mesh with mine, but that's half the fun of it. But this other stuff goes way far around the bend.
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Well...you just have some clever witicism to offer up on just about everything, don't you. Why don't you go crawl back inside a case of Lucky Charms you useless fuck, and leave the rest of us alone. You're little more than a hemorhoid. Tell me this, Scotty, is it even remotely possible that you might have something useful or halfway intelligent to say?
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the Shia hate. That's good, I guess.
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I thought that Jeff Bridges was great as the villain. He, and the rest of the cast of IRON MAN were excellent. That flick was one helluva great way to kick off the summer movie season.
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Have you seen SPEED RACER yet?
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Ha. Or like my Grandaddy used to say. He's like a carbuncle in the crack of a man's ass.
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even stevens for heisman.
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No I haven't. I really haven't even watched a trailer for it yet. Though if I find it floating around online somewhere it may become mine. Just kidding of course.
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Dude, when are we gonna play POGS? I've been waiting 15 years for our epic re-match.
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I really don't give a rat's left testicle where Lucky Charms comes from, dickhead. You're the one who needs to get his facts straight-everything you have have been putting out here for the masses is nothing but venom-filled, hate-laced garbage. If you'd like to join in and have a pleasant conversation, terrific. Otherwise, shut your stinking pie-hole. You're not funny, just sad. Go play bully somewhere else.
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and the bravest soul I've ever known. we used to roll together is east r'dale. word, scots. 4 lyfe.
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Dude, leave scots alone. Me and him are boys, fo shiz, and I don't like you smack talking him. In high school, Scots was the MC in Cabaret, and he was AMAZING.
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Hey, punk, I'm not insulting Irish folks or Scottish folks-just you. But it doesn't seem to bother you that you spend a vast majority of your time here insulting everyone else. Your brainless ramblings get old MIGHTY quickly. Oh, and the fact that you are able to ype in capital letters doen't impress anyone, either.
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Dude, remember jc? What's he been up to?
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There -- I said it.
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So what happens to the Ark?
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Sebulba. That dude's got the juice, now, grandma.
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It sounds like you get to see the Ark, or at least the crate containing it, for a moment, but nothing more. Maybe Indy will get to make some crack about it. I'm smiling just thinking about it.
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don't fuck with the temple of doom!
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Funny you should mention that. I'm listening to the EPISODE I sscore as we talkback, and the piece of music playing at this very moment is the Flag Parade piece. Nothing beats some good John Williams orchestral goodness. Nw, if that darn INDY 4 score would just come out...
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Did they really stage that whole warehouse part just so we could get a glimpse of the ark and that's it? That's a rip off. I really hoped Indy would be able to keep something for once.
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If I have insulted you, then I beg your forgiveness. But I do find that much of your acid-toned comments are negatively provocative, to say the least. Tell me, ar eyou the fellow who said he just got a copy of the film earlier?
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I agree, Herb. Maybe this time he'll get to keep Marion. Just think, that might give Indy the oncentive to go looking for that Fertility Idol again...
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Of course he couldn't, Telemarketer. That is, unless he gets his hands on one of them big ass TRANSFORMER robots. Then old Iron Monger would be turned into tin foil pretty damn quick!
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May 10, 2008 12:30:05 PM CDT
telemarketer, Sebulba would still win!!!! Even if Uwe Bol joined
by jarjarsjockstrap
Sebulba and Watto are the greatest CGI creations in cinema history. With Watto playing "Mickey" to Sebulba's "Rocky," Mutt, Iron Monger, Jessica Alba, AND Uwe Bol would all be royally screwed. When Sebulba rolls up 'longside ya and flashes his grill -- it's game over.
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Think about it dude, the end of Raiders had vengeance seeking angels that melted faces, exploderised heads and sent fire through peoples stomachs. The end of Crusade had an immortal Knight and death by instant aging. Why should aliens and saucers be a problem? I would certainly find aliens alot easier to believe in than anything remotely biblical, I don't understand your (la)beef. These are not exactly Ken Loach films, ya dig?
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He's replacing them with Snorks!
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That's what I've been saying. You, sir, are the man.
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Chalk one oup for the Telemarketer! The Hemorhoid-sorry-Scotsman has taken another one on the chin!
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That made me laugh. Most people probably don't remember but Marion girl used to have a sweet little ass. http://tinyurl.com/5f9hvr Wonder if she still does.
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Sweet dreams, TM, and may your dreams be as exciting as an INDIANA JONES adventure. Hell, maybe Mutt will be along for the ride!
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That Scotsman is really a Scotsboy.
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Scotsman, I'm shocked. Your mommy actually lets you drink alcohol? Maybe that's what has killed all of your brain cells.
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That the Scotsman is really a Scotsgirl.
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Hey man, opinions are like assholes you know? Everyone's got one and none are less valid. Aliens are cool with me, but if many of the lines are duds, well that's a different matter. Anways, I'm still there Sat 24th.jarjarsjockstrap; you sir, are a gentleman.
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Is the Guinness what is fueling all of your creativity? Ahhh, so sad...
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You negative cunts never fail to amuse me. You hate everything but those cock-sucking hobbits. Kevin Smith was right, an entire trilogy dedicated to walking. FUCK LOTR right up it's tired old ass!
Indy will be a welcomed return! It will be great to see adults in movies again instead of these pussy, liberal, mealy-mouthed, hand-wringing twats who wouldn't know what hero meant was it was tattooed on their taint.
You Prequel bashers can eat some fuck as well as the Star Wars flicks are just fine for the TRUE fans and those that paid attention. If you hate those films you were never that big a fan to begin with, that's the fucking truth!
Indy will be the highest grosser this year, although Dark Knight gives some competition due to it being Ledger's final film, so it could be horserace with the two. And fuck Speed Racer as well, a phony movie for a phony affliction like HDD. Shitty cartoon = shittier movie, makes sense.
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You can take away his Star Wars action figures and Legos, BUT YOU'LL NEVER TAKE HIS FREEEEEDOM!!!!!
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I agree with you man-on most accounts anyway, and perhaps not as vociferously. I dig all six STAR WARS films, the INY films, and I'm sick of prelease film-bashing by people who haven't seen it. BUT...I also liked the LORD OF THE RINGS films, I'm going to see SPEED RACER with an open mind, and I don't particularly care for Kevin Smith or his films. But, I think that we're on the same page, bud!
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I agree with ya Herb. I think I will ignore him. I tried to say sorry, but the guy-or girl-just threw it back in my face. Life goes on. I'm gonna see INDY and that's all that matters!!!
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and I don't think he's actually seen the film. He certainly has an inside source because he is right about certain plot points, but they are a bit out of order and leave's out a few other details. He's either been told things by someone who's seen it or worked on it, or seen pieces somehow... maybe at a trailer house.
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f'n a-man this is gonna be good - and screw all the haters.
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Indy would single handedly whoop every member of the Gates family from National Treasure. Including the little sidekick geek.
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like temple of doom this one will divide the critics but in a year or so it will be considered a classic along with the others (like temple of doom)
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I think the comparison only survives until you consider the impact of Marion's reappearance being exponentially more meaningful. She appeared in a previous movie whereas Carol Marcus was essentially retconned in for plot reasons...
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this I disagree on Indy's "we are going to die!" line is my favorite in the whole series Ford's delivery and the face he makes afterward make laugh everytime
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One good review and some of you are ready to totally fellatiate this guy.
I'll stick with my gut based on the trailer, other reviews and comments from those involved in the film from various interviews that this movie sucks donkey dick.
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What a waste of a life. If there's anything positive about you spending so much time yelling on this board... it's that you're not out in the real world. We all thank you for that!!
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Yes a helicopter exploded and an occupant jumped out to land safely. BUT THE PILOT STILL GOT BURNED TO DEATH AND THE GUY WHO LANDED GOT CRUSHED TO BLOODY PIECES IN AN ICE GRINDER! YOU FUCKING STUPID RETARD ASSHOLE MORON FUCKFACE IDIOT! I'm so sick of the bullshit excuses people make for not liking the best movie of last summer, asshole fuckface retards!
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What was the history of Carol Marcus. Was she a character from the original Star Trek show?
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It's on TV and has just reached the three tests...I've gotta say, it's no Raiders, but it's still a damn fun movie.
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I have no doubt that this is going to be a good movie. Face it, Steven Spielberg doesn't make bad movies. Even things like 1941 and THE COLOR PURPLE (I like the first, not the second) have some redeeming qualities. All of Spielberg's films are well-made. Of course, some are better than others, but that's the case with anyone who directs more than one film. But it's going to take a helluva lot more than screaming juvenile rants to give up on this film. I'll see it for myself and form my own opinion then, thank you very much.
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No she was brought in for TREK II. In my opinion, she was there to try and humanize Kirk a bit. Let's face it. At that point in the TREK saga (1982) Shatner was a bit long in the tooth to be believably bedding down with every 19-year-old Playboy figured space damsel that he came across, as he seemed to do in the original series. Carol Marcus she made Kirk's mid-life crisis sub-plot a bit easier to bite into. But it was one movie and done for Ms. Marcus.
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Carol Marcus and Kirk's son was in both TREK II and III, but he was a bit of a wasted character, especially in TREK III where he was so conveniently killed off by the Klingons in front of Saavik and the young/reborn Spock. Boy, did THAT piss old Kirk off!
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KLINGON BASTARDS, YOU MURDERED MY SON!!!
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Die Hard 4 was a sellout piece of shit. Everyone involved should be ashamed.
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Hopefully Mutt Williams won't get blasted into oblivion by Klingons!
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I wish that LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD had had more of an edge to it, but I still got a big kick out of seeing McClane back in action again.
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but that doesn't mean that all of these revival films-INDY 4, DIE HARD 4, ROCKY BALBOA, RAMBO-aren't still a kick to watch. They may not be as fresh as the originals, but I'd didn't expect that they would be.
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You mean John (chestburster) Hurt, right?
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If he were William Hurt's stepson, wouldn't he be lost in space, or trapped in an isolation tank or something?
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I've been reading your posts and they're both hilarious. keep at it.
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My pleasure. There ain't nothing better to do on a rainy afternoon, after all. Oh, wait a second, I could be watching a movie!!! Damn, why didn't I think of that earlier.
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Does Indy and his posse find him in one of those cells we catch a brief glimpse of in the trailer? He certainly looks like he hasn'r bathed in a year.
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Mutt Williams Vs. Robocop. Who would win?
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Does anyone know if the INDY 4 score has been posted anywhere yet. I heard brief pieces of each of the cuts from the CD on Amazon.com, but I want more!!!!
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Hurt is in the film longer than 6 or 7 min... he's in it almost as much as Karen Allen. And Mutt is not his stepson... that would mean he and Marion were married and they are not. This guy has bits of info he's trying to piece together and say he's seen it.
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Sorry mate.
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why don't you shut the fuck up you little punk . seriously i'd love to run into your little bicth ass on the street so i could slap the fuck outta you . a punch would probably kill your frail ass . you sit hear trying to ruin shit for folks that just want to talk about their hopes for the movie . a lot people put in hard work to make this flick happen and then some douche ( YOU ) gotta try and fuck it up . Please , Please tell me you live in the l.a. area so i can put a uwe boll on you
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I think Scotsman said earlier that he had a copy of the film. I asked about this and got no response. Not to point the finger at him, but a lot of what I've been reading (i.e. the reviews) seem a little lacking in detail. I haven't seen the film, but each day I see something slip out that helps me paint a bigger and more complete picture of what the INDY 4 story is. I enjoy reading this stuff, but until I see the film, I'm going to be taking it all with a grain of salt.
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your witty counter .
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Leave Scotsman75 be. Why the hating? He's hilarious. He's bring out the worst in you all and its very funny stuff to read. keep going Scotty. I'll back you up 100%
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Last night I caught Harrison Ford on Jay Leno. I was a litle ticked off that they showed no clip from the film. Leno and Ford batted about the fact that the film is "veiled in secrecy." What we got to see was the clip of Ford getting slimed at the Kid's CHoice Awards, and his environmentalist spot about the rain forests being chopped down. That let us see Mr. Ford getting his chest waxed. HO HUM!!! I wanted a clip, goddamn it!!!
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GL's excuse was comendable. That a movie that is anticipated this much can never live up to the expectation. He had the fucking audacity to sit there and shit in our collective pockets and tell us it's hailing. What GL was really saying was I know I'm out of touch with reality and I made this movie 15 years too late because now I'm really incredibly bad at making movies because I'm surrounded by people that refuse to tell me no so everything I touch turns to shit and I let Speilberg cast some kid with a jew fro that nobody likes as Indy's bastard son thereby making IJ a deadbeat fucking dad. Get the fuck outta here with that shit.
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wow thanks for the compliment .don't swing that way but hey . listen not hating just want to enjoy the tb without having to sort through all the b.s. but if you want to join sides then fuck you to chief .
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you silly scepo bastard, "Lucky Charms" come on mate you just gave that dirty scotsman more ammo and excuse to spew more of his verbal diarrhea all over this talk back, and like we didn't have enough anyway, the cunt has posted 49 posts of meaningless dribble. But in true yank form you got your countries mixed up.. you'll get him next time. Haggis eating bastard
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I misread you name and called you StuntCock. My bad.
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WRATH OF KHAN still holds up as one of the two top TREK films-the other is, in my humble opinion, FIRST CONTACT. I got the feeling that the comparison has to do with the Older Indy-Older Kirk thing. The one thing that I think Indy 4 will lack is a villain that is as powerful as Khan.
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bruce willis was. die hard 4 was lame.
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is that thing your SUPPOSED to use in your twat to keep away that fishy smell. but you probably enjoy the aroma scotswoman
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May 10, 2008 2:40:33 PM CDT
Spielberg will MURDER the haters with this movie... personally
by proman1984
Indy 4 will rock! Accept no immitators!
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generic, MTV edited, PG-13 cutaway fest.
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no worries .
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Dont take any shit yo! I like where your head is at. StuntCock is a cock!
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From the time I first saw RAIDERS in 1981, I always thought that the ABner Ravenwood thing was something that should have been explored in one of the sequels. I figured that he would somehow turn up, either tracking down Indy for help, or having Indy somehow stumble across him in some far corner of the globe. If all of what I'm reading is true, then the rampant rumors about John Hurt being Abner Ravenwood are rubbish. It's just another one of those ideas that has apparently drifted by the wayside.
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that this is going to be panned on arrival, but in a few years we'll all love and accept it as cannon.
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that this is going to be panned on arrival, but in a few years we'll all love and accept it as cannon.
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that was some bald twat they plucked out of the old folks home and placed beside a used Dildo. That movie was a huge stinking turd. Secondly, GL apparently didn't learn from SR. He must've thought that putting some stinking tampon in a movie playing the bastard son of a beloved character was a great idea. We now have trailer park trash Indy. Congratulations to the duo of stupidity for ruining one more of their cash cows.
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Where did you procure said copy? Please share with the group. Are you MAx Speilberg by chance?
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Okay-so somehow you've gotten your greedy mits on a copy of the movie. I envy you. Answer one question-I've heard a lot about surprise cameos in the film. Are they true, and who are they? And, please, no smart ass crap, just a straight answer. After all, Lucky Charms or not, SPOILERS is what this web site is founded on. So let loose!
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I feel you baby. That Die HArd 4 was a con. Nonsense. Who is less talented and what my good friend. Len Wiseman or the gout faced GL?
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your right i am a cock and i bet you like where his head is at ...if you get my drift .
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Thanks, man. I appreciate it. But I was so hoping for a grown up Short Round or Papa Jones appearance. I guess Sean Connnery wasn't rtying to pull the wool over everyones eyes by saying he was done with acting.
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You have them eating out of your hand. Nice! Again where did you get the copy?
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I guess that I should have given up on Sean Connery when I saw him in that AVENGERS travesty that came out a few years back. I did always think that Connery would have been a kick-ass villain in a new Bond film, though. THAT would have been a masterstroke of casting.
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Fuck all (well, most) of you for being stupid dumbasses!
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CRYSTAL SKULL will be a fun movie. I can say this because I'm working on it in some way (sorry, can't tell how) and I know the story, dialouge and scenes in order, as well as the score and I'm telling you IT'S NO PHANTOM MENACE! Are there some moments when people will say "I wish they hadn't gone there." YES. But that shouldn't detract from the overall fun of one last Indy adventure. People that go in with a pre-concievced notion of what the film "should" be are already sabotaging their experience. The film delivers some great action scenes and funny Indy moments. Is it over the top at times? YES, but all of the films were and that's the fun of them. They are E-ticket rides like Space Mountain at Disneyland... they are meant for thrills and chills and that's the point. George (for all his fuck ups) decided he wanted to make a B SCI-FI film with the Indiana character he created. Steven is a master at directing action and big hollywood set-pieces... what else doo you really think you're going to get? If you want a Star Wars comparison, at the least it will be as good as SITH and at best it will be like JEDI. If you really hate those tow films... don't waste your time, but if your like me and find those film exceptable for what they are and where they fit into their series, then go have fun with Indy one last time. I already have my ticket for the 22nd, see you there!
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May 10, 2008 2:52:30 PM CDT
Crop Circle Spider Things?? Its the NAzCA lines you MORON!!!!
by ethan big nuts mckinley
You Know, Eric Von Daniken - Chariots Of the Gods, Teachers from the stars, alien races having Influence on ancient cultures, Anunaki. Google It dudes.............Its cool
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MAYBE LIKE THE STAR TREK MOVIES... YOU KNOW ODD NUMBERS VS EVEN NUMBERS. MAYBE THE NEW LONG TITLED ONE ARE GOOD AND SHORT BAD??? (Indiana jones and the) RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IM TALKIN' ABOUT
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Fairplay for admitting you are ni fact a penis. More power to you .
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has a new entry...and all we can do is bitch? Before we even see it?
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Your words are full of filmfan wisdom, brother. Comparisons are a dangerous thing when it comes to opinions that are formed before a film's release. INDY 4 will be what it is. I put my trust in Spielberg, and will judge this after I see it on the 22nd. I have no gripes so far, but it sure seems like I am a minority in this. PLEASE, just give this film a chance, people. Don't go into it with negative feelings or expectations that are bound to be dashed. Just go into it to have a good time, and I'll wager that you will come out with a big smile on your faces and a familiar John Williams theme being hummed or whistled from your grinning face. That's what we all want!
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I don't care if there are surprises are in this film or not. What I do know is that it's hard to come up with surprises in film sequels. I just want it to be good. That has nothing to do with the film being full of surprises.
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Get Firefox with built in Spell Check would you? Fuck.
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May 10, 2008 3:04:18 PM CDT
scotsman keeps repeating the same points over and over
by hollywoodsummers
he does not have a copy of the film. his descriptions are pretty close to certain things, but they lack details that even I know from working on it.
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At this point in the game, surprises would be few and far between anyway. Here we are less than two weks away from the film's release. Many who visit this site and participate in these talkback crave the spoilers. I am one. I WANT TO KNOW. I doubt that even Lucas and Spielberg would be able to hide THE BIG SURPRISE from the AICN filmfan community for very long. The word is always out there. It's just that sometimes it's a trick to find it and discern the true from the false.
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Mac doesn't save Indy by sacrificing himself... that's just knot how it goes down man. Scotsman is full of shit.
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we get it. Or at least we may if you'd even attempt to spell for Fuck's sake.
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I worked on it too for 16 weeks. He's close.
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You, sir, get my vote of confidence.
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I've been on this project for months and find my self whistling the Raiders March all the time... even my friends are like "damn, that song again?" I can't help it, I'm deep in Indy world right now. It's fun.
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He is close... but not spot on. I'm not saying he doesn't end up in some form of "hole" if that's what you call it.. but it's the sacrifice part you're off on.
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The Day that the trailer first appeared and that theme came on I had tears in my eyes. I know that sounds lame, but I don't care. I guess it's a nostalgia thing. That and it's a damn good theme! I dig's my John Williams!
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It wouldn't be ethical to do so, (in fact do you really want a play by play before you see a film?) But I will call B.S. here when I see it.
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Fair enough.
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you man ... so you worked on it for 16 weeks huh ? what'd you do on it ? i worked on it for about 6 weeks . hollywood obviously does post work but maybe i know you . just wondering
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If you are truly working in some form or other on the new INDY film, that I am envious of you.
I got a taste of working in the film business many years ago. While in film school, I worked as a production assistant at a majjor special effects studio. It was the best job I ever had. I got to do what I'd always wanted. I got to show a bunch of people who said it would never happen how wrong they were, and I worked on a handful of major films. To this day I'm proud of that. Health issues interfered with me in the long run, but I hope that you feel the way I felt back then. -
I'm assuming you have a few scenes, probably poor quality or unfinished VFX and I'm also guessing no audio. That might explain u'r misconceptions about certain points.
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What do you think of this review? I've read Flint's before and he tends to see things first. This sounded like a fair appraisal of what to expect, which is the expected.
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One of the downfalls to working on films is that you don't always get to work on the best of projects. Of the four films I worked on, three were terrific and one was a steaming pile of crap. But I will say that it was always a blast.
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Gizmo, caca.
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Please I cant say what I did. I'd like to keep working on the show I'm currently on and the next on after that.
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is beyond reviewing an Indiana Jones movie for me so not a single word of his opinion means squat!
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It's the last trailer with a few new shots thrown in. I don't understand what the point of releasing it is
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I think if he's really seen it he's pretty much giving a fair opinion of his feelings. I personally am not a big Star Treck fan, but the one I do own and like most is KAHN, so I think that says something good for the film. My personal thought is, go in to have fun and maybe nit pick a little after, but I'm sure it won't be that punch in the gut sick feeling I got after seeing PHANTOM MENACE the first time.
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May 10, 2008 3:30:53 PM CDT
Yeah, the new trailer is pretty much the same as the last one.
by thebearovingian
Meaning not very good.
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What films did you work on?
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I worked on SUPERMAN IV (YUKKK!), INNERSPACE, ROBOCOP and BEETLEJUICE.
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And what IS good, eh? Wait, wait -- lemme guess: The Dark Knight? Damn, I'm good.
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Doing what I do now is fun, and I know many people who even do what I do would love to get some of the projects that I've been lucky enough to work on... but that said, It's still work.. long hours, short deadlines, and the bigger the profile on a project, the more pressure to blow people away. I'd say it's a solid mix of fun and stress.
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SUPERMAN IV had two major problems. First, the story sucked to begin with. And second, they got so far behind in the fx work that the fx were farmed out to a bunch of facilities so that they would be done in time. The work was rushed, and if you watch the film-which I haven't done for verrrrry Looooong time-there is very little consistency to the effects work. That was mainly due to Warner handing off the film Cannon Films, who were not exactly known for quality. They just wanted everything fast and cheap. They got that, but the quality suffered immensely.
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I hear you, Summers. It seems like the way things work nowadays, in this age of digital filmmaking, they want everything FAST. And that can add a lot of stress to an already heavy workload. Rush jobs are rarely fun. But it's still gotta feel like a priviledge to work on a film like INDIANA JONES.
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May 10, 2008 3:42:38 PM CDT
I'm really looking forward to seeing the action again !
by barnaby jones
So many summers have past in a blur of kicks,jumps and explosions. Yet there was nothing to savour, so thank you Steven, George and Co. Thank you.
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The studios are the ones behind all this rush, rush, rush crap. When you watch movies, you can always tell that this or that would have been better if there had been just a little more time to do something right or fine-tune something. The studio pushes the producer, who pushes the director who pushes the cast and crew, and it can get downright ugly. But, sometimes the payoff is worth it. And then there are a few filmmakers who take the time to do things right-no matter what the studios say. They are the heroes.
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When you are participating in the making of a film, no matter what you're job, it can often take a lot of balls to stand up and say, "wait a second, this isn't right. We need to do..." and sometimes the people you work for are stand-up enough folks to say, "Okay, let's do that." And I can say, both from experience and from things I've heard from others, those kind of people are few and far between. And that is very unfortunate.
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And then he gets into one of his weird-ass fistfights, using some amalgamation of tumbling and martial arts. His shirt gets torn and he beats up the bad guy.
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So if you worked on SUPERMAN IV, then you are at least partly responsible for the death of the franchise which in turn led to Superman Returns and the great idea of a bastard son which in turn probably led to Shia the bastard son in Indy 4. So the way I see it, if Indy 4 fails, it's all because of you. Damn you, Damn you, Solo Bear. ;-)
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It has been special working on Indy. Not just for my love of the films, but because my father worked on the first trilogy and so it feels like a big piece of my family memories, going to see him work, going to wrap parties, etc. He's not working on this Indy, but my godfather is so that's kinda fun to work on a project that he's on too. We also did that on Munich.
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MARVEL fans hated SW fans when Spidey 1 and Ep. II came out within weeks of each other...now I think we have the same MARVEL geeks trashing everything not-comic related. Indy IV will out-gross Iron Man and Dark Knight...but all three won't gross as much as Sex in the City...and unfortunately...I'm not joking!
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Indiana Jones, on the other hand, just draws his gun and shoots the bad guy. It's damn cool, and it doesn't take as much effort. A great method, especially when you're suffering from disintary.
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Sorry, man, I just did what I was told. But the SUPERMAN franchise was on its death bed long before I entered the picture. SUPERMAN III put him in the coffin. #4 was just the nails.
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...and those who have actually seen this movie. I think your answer will let us know if it's worth seeing or not.So far, I've found the trailers strangely unexciting - even a bit boring. Whether you agree with that impression or not, can you answer this:In your view, are the trailers downplaying the movie, i.e. deliberately showing the most uninteresting parts so as not to spoil the REAL fun?Or are the trailers showing some of the BEST and most exciting moments in the movie - in your opinion?You see, whether you personally like the trailers or not, you are in a good position to say hether or not they are truly representative of the movie. Thanking you in advance.
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The core of the problems with the SUPERMAN film lie with several people. It was Ilya and ALexander Salkind, Pierre SPengler and, eventually, Richard Lester who fucked up the Man of Steel. If Warners had just had the forsite to get rid of the Salkinds and Spengler and put the franchise in the hands of Richard Donner, then I think all would have been well. But, I still get goosebumps watching the late, great Christopher Reeve in the first film. He was truly the template for big screen superheroes.
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Of course, I'm joking. The death of the Superman franchise HAD to have been a team effort. But my reasoning makes sense, if you see the world through these eyes. :)
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First off, I haven't seen the final finished film, but I've seen plenty and know the play by play and to answer your question, I think they've given the trailer editors only pieces to work with and been very strict about what they can use. The action scenes are big and the moments you see in the trailer are just snipits of much larger, much longer sequences that go on for quit a while. Hope that helps.
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I know. The strangest thing about that experience for me was that, with the exception of seeing the spfx supervisor Harrison Ellenshaw talking to my boss one time, I had absolutely no contact with anyone else on that film. I remember going to see it with a sense of dread, knowing that, yes I workled on it, but the film sucked. I don't even have the movie, I dislike it so much. And That's not because of the work that was done by the fx studio I worked at, but because the film was so bad. Even good fx wouldn't have saved that movie. It was shit from the get-go.
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There's absolutely nothing "soft" about the action scenes in Live Free or Die Hard.
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I normally don't talk on these boards. But, it seems to me, that the naysayers are predisposed to not liking the movie, and the supporters are predisposed to loving the movie. Here's an idea: why not wait to watch the movie, and develop an opinion of your own? I'm a huge Indiana Jones fan, and the above review is encouraging, but I'm waiting 'till May 22nd before I say ANYTHING about it.
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And all we did on it was some last minute compositing work that others had no time to complete. Liek I said, this film was an on-going train wreck and the wreck didn't come to a complete stop until that film was falling flat on its face in theaters.
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Thanks Solobear!@!!!
Seriously, the people that actually think Spielberg would make a lousy film just need to stay home, but then that's expecting too much. Because the haters like to dump on shit and act as though they are being forced to watch it even though they got dressed, left the house, drove to the theater and plunked down their ten spot just so they can bitch and moan like the dumb whores they are. Enjoy your life for a fucking change!
If Indy 4 offends your delicate little sensibilites, stay inside!
I feel pity for all of those that have been brainwashed into hating the prequels or being forced to choose one series over the other. If you sheeppeople can be suckered into voting for Obama than anything can happen at this point!
Guess what? I like it all, Trek, Jones, Star Wars, Galactica, Buffy/Angel....
This is America, sense when do we have to fucking choose?!
Let us those that have a life and don't hate, enjoy Indy's presumably swan song and have a damn blast!
I swear if I ever encountered any of you crybabies, I would love so very much to kick your ass from one end of the street to the next. -
Scotsman wrong again... he doesn't know the details
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Well, at least it's nice to know that there were franchise killers long before Ratner and Raimi.
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How bout it? What about Hooded Justice's question?
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Have fun talking Indy
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it was a pretty good trailer.
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It seems like things are calming down around here. I'm sure that I just jinxed everything by saying that.
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You can understand why I asked: remember how great the trailers were for TPM? So many movies throw the best moments into the trailer, making the actual movies a disappointment. Still, in this case It's curious that Lucasfilm couldn't dig out a nice moment of snappy dialogue or a kick-ass action shot to sell their movie.
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I remember the trailer for TERMINAtor 2. I loved it. It really got me jazzed to see that movie. But after seeing the film, I really realized what a true masterstroke it was. It got your blood pumping to see Arnold in action again without really blowing anything. I was amazed at all of the stuff that they managed to keep hidden from everyone until they saw the movie. I was completely blindsided by the T-1000. It was great. I think that that was probably the last truly internet-proof blockbuster.
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I was definitely too young to remember the marketing for it, but if I remember correctly most people thought the cop was going to be the hero and Arnold the villain once again.
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what does the paramount logo fade into? ha! ha! biiieeeeaaattch
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Why not save something for a surprise...
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i'm betting on the prairie dog mound. thats sounds legit.
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The trailers are not what you should be judging the film by. In my opinion they hold back quite a bit. There was strict policy not to tell the entire story in the trailers like every other trailer. Several where thrown on the table ads examples. Dont bother asking. I not telling.
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Maybe that was Short Round's last name. Aw, you know I love me some Indy. I just really really hate The Beef.
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Shia is so dis-liked. I can't comprehend it.
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Great to see you back. Did you see my post earlier.? Who would win in Mutt Williams Vs RoboCop?
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Whats the story yo? Do you read anything thats posted?
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took a Krispy Kreme from Rosanne Barr and lived to tell the tale.
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Is telemarketer high? He's fascinated with swords and does appear to read any posts.
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But seeing as I'm not too fond of Shia to begin with, I welcome the lampooning with open arms. That's what the internet is all about, right?
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Nonsense of course they can. if Mutt had a lightsaber he could chop'n'shop Robo. If you cant see this pose a possible match. Mutt Williams Vs ????
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My mother would tear Mutt a new ass and smack iron Monger hard style .
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I missed the ending after the credits. What happened?
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Thats some grim shit. It shows Mutt has guilt though. Mutt Vs The Alien & Predator?
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you're an eejit!!
"Please cease trying to interact with me"
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is that this is a movie that can't stand on its own. It's a movie that has to have excuses made because, while it's not a shitty idea, it was done by two shitty people that unfortunately have become obese and fucking lazy in the work they do. The prequels were utter underwhelming trash. GL was trying for a goddamn mulligan with IJ and instead he stuck black thunder back in his ass and rode it like there's no tomorrow by introducing some shitastic character named Mutt as IJ son. I mean Mutt???? Who didn't stop this fucking douche and tell him that was a bad idea????? Spielberg and Lucas are just two guys sucking each other off over how "genius" they are. Hey look, Shite LeButtfuck is playing some shit character everybody, it worked for transformers why not us? I have a distinct feeling that if Mutt and Indy were real people Indy would cut his fucking dick and balls off for spawning something as douche worthy as Mutt.
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if you can't figure out why Shite LeButtfuck is disliked you've obviously not watched even a minute of this colossal douche bags "work", and I use the word "work" lightly here. This fuckstick has one character that he does in every movie he's in. It's the same cunty dunce why can't I get laid Jew Fro'd shit face aren't I so funny pole smoker character EVERY FUCKING TIME.
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We all know this will be good anyway.
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you mean colossally mediocre and unneeded with a shitty bastard son character just like SR, then yes this movie will be fantastic.
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Do you mean he's a movie star and not an actor? Thats what he's paid to do. I'm not a cockroach by the way.
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Poetic Warrior is a juvenile and jealous fellow. He just wishes he could come up with something that could be one iota as clever or successful as Lucas and Spielberg. Apparently some dumbass in the past named Luke Spielberg rear ended his beat-up VW bug, and Mr. Warrior found out that the guy was uninsured. Now, he is forced to live with a sizeable dent on his rusty car. This has angered him to the point of vicious name-calling. Someone...please help him. For the love of God...DO SOMETHING!!!
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with your head stuck up your ass and you sit around in your under wear playing nintendo in your parents basement and drinking Mt. Dew all day, but coming on here and trying to act like you actually have an imagination of some sort by making some lame retarded supposed insult about what car you think I drive because the zit you had on your nose this morning reminded you of Mutt and you've been jacking off to your homemade fan movie where you've pieced together all the Mutt footage you could get your hands on thereby enabling you to jack off unfettered and you've created a giant ball from all the tissue paper you've been using to catch your diseased puss ridden genetic material, is not a good idea. Fuck you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to waste what you try to call a life on typing some stupid dip shit message to me though you incredible cunty.
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Mr. Warrior is an angry man. Maybe has no "lady friend" and is having too much "Sam time"(transformers joke).
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I've been reading Poetic Warrior's intense criticism of Shia LeBeouf. But I seem to be missing somethin. Poetic Warrior, you are a drama critic for...?
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Next time try to say something worth replying too you fucking cockroach. You just answered your own question as to why there is so much hate you fucking douche bag moron.
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that was so funny damn, wow you really got me there you fucktard, I'm a drama critic for...? Oh man how will I ever recover from that one, phewww!! Man for a minute there I thought I was finished, you emasculated twat.
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Did Shia dump you? You're VERY sore. I think Shia dumped you or you asked him out and he said he was flattered but unfortunatley he wasnt gay like you!
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If you don't sit there cringing and grinding your teeth every time that annoying little chump disgraces your screen you are either a deaf-blind man or else you are his fucking mom.
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You know so little, my mentally challenged friend. I'm actually married. My parent's live over a thousand miles from me, and I do not own a Nintendo, nor a video game system of any kind. I'm sorry to wreck your sick sexual fantasies, young man, but I am unfortunately unable to perform extreme contorionist movements which would allow me to stick my head up my ass. I don't like Mountain Dew, I prefer Diet Lime Coke, personally. And as far as wasting my time, any time I can insult some worthless piece of worm-ridden shit like you is no waste of time at all. It's all strictly for fun, fuckwad. When your daddy and mommy get done changing your diaper. let them know that widdle baby is gwumpy and needs to go beddy-bye before the big talkback monsters eat him alive.
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Do you think they should have GayBots in Transformers 2?
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Your cockroach line is wearing a little thin, you feeb. Have someone hit the dictionary for you and try to find some new words to use.
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That's rich. That's right up the Poetic Warrior's alley, both literally and figuratively.
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I think, reading all your posts, that the hatred is you. You hate yourself and all the bile you type is actually about you and your life. Am I close?
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I think somebody beat up poor P.W. today, and this is his unusual way of trying to find retribution.
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I think PW needs a hug. Do you need a hug PW?
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Well, it seems that, for some reason, our Poetic Warrior has departed for other realms, so I guess it's time to get back to the matter at hand. Here it is, 7:11 p.m. Keee-rist is May 22 ever gonna get here!
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It appears Pw is gone for now. Onward and upward indeed.
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Have you, or are you going to see, SPEED RACER?
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Something something something The Dark Side. Something something something fully operational.
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Are you referring to SPEED RACER?
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but I'm really hoping all the negative feedback about this movie is because the Indy-familiar viewers are watching this as an adult and not as a kid. Any Indiana Jones movie would be awesome if you were 12, (and most everyone here first saw them as a kid). Now re-watch any Indy film as an adult and see how they hold up. I'm really hoping the negative feedback is due to first seeing this film as all grown-up, hence not getting the same kick as a child or young teenager would. I hope I "like it a lot" like Derek.
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he'll be able to answer this question. Indiana Jones cries in this movie-whats the special thing about the scene though?
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..a nail on the head. Well observed.
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Sorry but the movie was getting lukewarm to bad reviews so far, Paramount decided to send in an agent to get people to see the film. Still, I'm gonna wait for Talkback reaction, in otherwords, I'm gonna wait for peer reviews from people who I have flame wars with before I see the film.
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...because you're out there. Crazy like a fox. Maybe a relative of PW perhaps.
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Mongoloid of the year.
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He be cuttin' cabbages with his sword like he cuts the cheese!
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This you can trust!!!
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He posesses Excalibur, the Sword of Power!
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Unless it belongs to MUTT the MIGHTY!
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I have enjoyed films, cinema, the moving image since my parents took me to see Disney films back in the early 70's. I came across this site shortly after joining the internet sometime around Titanic. I find it terribly sad that any real critic or geniune dialogue about film on this site now resides with people who truly have lost site of what film is about. I saw 'Raiders' at the cinema. I was 12 years old. It made a similar impact to Star Wars on my young eyes. So many years later I look forward to number 4. I don't expect, wish or desire anything other than a couple of hours of entertainment. It's not going to change my life. I would truly like to meet the guy who said " George lucas raped my childhood", that sentence sums up all the problems with the present climate of fan obsession. George made my childhood and when Phantom came out I was no longer a kid so I didn't get it the same way kids did. I teach so I have some understanding of current trends and guess what? Kids loved Jar Jar. 30 years ago my father thought Star Wars was complete nonsense, I didn't. What I truly don't understand is the constant bile that some people need to leave on this site. I simply don't believe you truly like films. It's now got to the point that (and this is my first post) I can no longer look at talkbacks. Personally I'd moderate this site and pure nonsense would go in the bin. Sure if you don't like something then tell someone but leave your poor language and diatribe at home. Lucas and Spielberg owe you nothing. You have a choice about film. You don't like something don't go to see it.
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Mutt is a Knight Templar!
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Bravo, my friend. I feel exactly the same way. This place could use A LOT more talkbackers like yourself. It's okay to have some fun-check out the Mutt posts-but insulting others to the point of anger and trash talking movies that haven't even been released yet is a travesty to true film fans. Let these hate omngers spend their coinage elsewhere. I'll rest easier knowing that they and their ilk will not be attending the films I will be enjoying this summer, and for many summers to come.
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I'm out of it for a little while and everybody gets delusions of grandeur.
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I think Spielberg said it best ... He's making this movie for the fans. The problem is that everyone is expecting Indy 4 to be one of the best films of all time and placing those kind of expectations is unfair for this movie.
I think the important thing to remember is that this movie shouldn't be judged by how much better than the previous entries it's going to be but to judge the movie as another journey with our favourite hero.
The important thing to remember is that as long as the dialogue, the story, is decent enough, that fans get another change to join Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones, before he gets too much older and that we'll get the chance to get a long-time coming second trilogy, before Harrison Ford retires from the business.
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Flint always sees things first and is a longtime spy for AICN. He was the one who first broke the news they'd recreated the Raiders warehouse at the Downey Studio. He's no plant.
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I just watched it on USA network and decided to look up info on it on Wiki and it says it is a prequel to Raiders. It is set one year before Raiders. Wow, never knew. Learn something everyday.
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I cannot fathom why people would actively root for a certain film to be bad. TDK is obviously my most anticipated film of 2008, but that doesn't mean I want Indy to fail. On the contrary, I want all of 2008's genre releases to be good. What would happen to some of you if you actually enjoyed something for once? If that is out of the question, perhaps you should take your anger somewhere it can be channeled appropriately. Say Iraq, for instance. Dark Knight Out.
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Wow, a well-written review by a seemingly intelligent and knowledgeable individual...and he liked it!
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Indiana Jones and the 400 Blows, Indiana Jones and the Wild Strawberries,Indiana Jones et un Chien Andalue, Indiana Jones and the Seven Samurai, Indiana Jones and the Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie.
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Why are you fuckers believing all of this shit in the first place?
I don't know about you but I don't allow reviews from assholes who review shit here to influence whether I see a movie or not. Personally, I think AICN Reviewers are full of shit trying to spend their fucking time to convince everyone else not to see the movie because it doesn't meet up with their expectations of what a good movie should be.
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oh man a gay joke, sweet!!! I haven't heard that in like 15 minutes you 10 year old cunt. Man oh man, can you whip out the fucking zingers. I just don't have a chance with the gay jokes and all!! Shit I think I'll give up and never come back you laughable nugget o'shit.
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do you mean to tell me that being on the talkbacks trying to piece together that "wicked" insult you just tossed out there is better than fucking that diseased whore you call a wife???? I don't know exactly how fucking fat that dorito eating bitch is but her ass must look like a bowl of oatmeal when you pull off those specially made panties when you go to fuck that bitch. Tell me, when you take her for a walk do people often tell you after seeing that jiggly ass that it looks like two pigs fighting in a gunny sack? Are you often overwhelmed with wanting to take a spoon to the twats ass with your morning cup of coffee or are you a closet homo that's tired of being married to the pig you used to go shopping with? I know being old your fucking bunions are probably killing you but being an incredible twat on the AICN talkbacks is probably the last thing your rickety ass needs to be doing. In closing, fuck you very much for reading.
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go fuck yourselves. If that ass hat was making something for the "fans" he wouldn't have put TheBeefer in this fucking thing and he wouldn't have it filled with stupid self-aware shitty old fart jokes.
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are busy trading Dirty Sanchez's with each other but I haven't read a bigger pile of steaming bullshit since the last time solobear bothered writing anything. You're so goddamn stupid that you actually think you need to be 12 to enjoy an IJ movie?? I mean goddamn you're a fucking cocksucking ass wart for even starting that kind of apologist bullshit. You're truly a colossal fucking cunty. By the way when solobear arrives for the ass eating train tell him I said 'sup for me would you big guy?
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Jason White!!!
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ALL of the plot points are out- the whole movie is practically online if you know where to look. For example, one spoiler not mentioned yet SPOILER- Indiana Jones cries tears of blood END SPOILER. See? How the hell do I know that? i mustve seen the film! Ummm...no I havent.
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I hope to holy hell that 1. this ridiculous Mutt character is killed off or pulls a disappearing act ala Jar Jar Binks 2. George Lucas is kept clear the hell away from anything even resembling an IJ script 3. Spielberg goes back and watches Raiders so he can understand what the fuck he's trying to do.
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so when you've seen so much bullshit that gives you pause you would have to have no soul, or at least a very dumb one, not to be concerned that IJ has gone the way of Star Wars. Irrelevant bullshit. You would have to be one incompetent fuck to mess this movie up but it looks like it has been done.
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Nice... Could not have said it better myself.
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you just got MUTTROLLED
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The first reviewer a couple days ago sounded like a young punk, doped up on today's quick cut editing style and Matrix sequel CG effects, completely out of his element and having no clue what a serial is ("isn't that what I had for breakfast this morning?") much less the obvious inspiration they had on these films. It also, I might add, seemed as though he were out to derail the film's success. The second seemed more honest and straightforward than the first, but still not quite "getting it". This review is the first I've read that makes the movie sound pretty much as I've expected it to be all along. This guy is objective (a trait sadly lacking in these here parts) and above all he gets it. I can't wait to see it.
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I think too many people return to their childhood favorites looking to revisit the past. Unfortunately that time and place can never be re-earthed. Childhood was fun but it's over. I'll go into an Indiana Jones film looking for a well crafted film that entertains. I will not go in looking for a transcendent life changing experience. These days that kind of art is relegated to the James Joyces and Gertrude Steins of the world, not the, admittedly, well done Spielberg entertainments. This doesn't mean I won't be wary of the craftsmanship of the art, but I won't be looking for a lifechanging experience.
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Lucas: "I'm gonna blow up the franchise, fanboys!" I watched parts of all three of the other IJ movies today (thanks, USA Channel), having not seen any of them in quite some time. Very impressive. "Raiders" is arguably the greatest action-adventure movie of all time, and the other two certainly weren't lacking for humor, excitement, or entertainment value. Why does Lucas go out of his way to poop on not one but TWO great trilogies by cashing in on their clout nearly two decades later with pale imitations? Greedy bastard. I refuse to see this movie, and line that potzer's pockets with any more green.Well, if the SW OT (non-Special Edition) hits Blu-Ray one fine day..... mebbe then.
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This movie will own.
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that yammers on about 12 year olds and Indiana Jones. If that is the extent of your expectations you're an easy to please old twat that died inside a long time ago. If all you expect is a shiny object to "entertain" you for a few minutes go watch speed racer and quit pissing on the rest of us while telling us it's raining because you're full of fucking shit and stupid talking about transcendent life changing experiences you unbelievable emasculated twats.
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Lucas was responsible for deep-sixing Frank Darabont's script, which I'm guessing was a whole lot better than what will be unveiled on May 22nd. This is the same Lucas who insisted on scripting all three of the SW Prequels. His powers of judgement in that department are suspect at best. A bad script will send this new Indy movie right off the rails, and frankly, that's probably what you'll get.BTW, don't add any salt to your popcorn when your dumbass is planted in the theatre on May 22nd, gotham_night. Your tears of disappointment will take care of that quite sufficently.
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After I watched that trailer, I clicked on the ipod version, thinking i'd get the same thing on my ipod, but it's longer, has footage from all 3 trailers(including the tv teaser) and has a bit more dialogue. Marion even gets to speak! Pretty cool.
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I haven't laughed so much in ages as at your put-downs of Solobear & Co. Your posts have more wit and imagination than Lucas has put into Indy 4, that's for sure. Keep 'em coming...Looks like Solobear's wife sat her fat ass down on him to keep him away from the keyboard.
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Bring 'em on! The world has wised-up to Lucas' and Spielberg's latter-day mediocrity. I love the fact that even this one 'positive' review is more like a begging letter asking us not to be too critical of this wheezy old turd of a movie. After the prequels horseshit, people are now fed up with the trash Lucas is feeding us. I think that KOTCS ("Crystal Skull"? WTF?) will probably fail financially AS WELL AS critically. That's ANOTHER prediction from Merriman Lyon. You heard it here first.
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Yes, this review is clearly a plant. You'd have to be a blind, blinkered, Lucas-loving imbecile not to see that. Luckily, there are none of those around.Oh.
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I really don't understand what people are expecting. I know that I was never expecting a modern update on the franchise with 'Bourne' shaky cameras. I'm not expecting a revamp/reboot or realistic take like the current Batman films. I'm not expecting a deconstruction of our hero like Unforgiven. Hell, I'm hoping to feel the nostalgia, but I'm not expecting Speilberg/Lucas to turn back time to when I was a kid. What I'm looking forward to is another adventure with Indy in the style of last three. These were never high art films with political/social commentary. These were 80's summer blockbusters, some of the first. They're supposed to be fun and entertaining. Besides, if they did any of those things I mentioned and reinvented/updated or deconstructed it people would probably complain anyways. Some people around here are far too invested in these films. I mean to say your childhood was raped is ridiculous. Some people need to get past childhood and fucking grow up.
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Here's an idea kids. Maybe AICN should have a contest and everyone here including the fine people who run this site can submit a spec script or plot summary of what they would have done if they were making another Indy film. Or perhaps a Star Wars film or even maybe something original. Then we can post them and every one can have a shot critiquing our fellow talkbackers work. There might be some really talented people on here. Then again I've read enough fan fiction in my time that it might be good for a laugh. It is so much easier to shit on something then it is to create after all. Alot of people can take an exsisting work and say "well, I would have done this". Can anyone come up with something awe inspiring original? How about it?
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- a blind, blinkered Lucas-loving imbecile is the twerp who's spent the last ten years of his life trying to convince said imbeciles of the fact. If this movie sucks I'll certainly be disappointed but I sure as shit won't be here in 2018 still foaming at the mouth about it the way you inevitably will.
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....but what have YOU done in the last ten years to protect the movie-going public from having their childhoods raped and their wallets fleeced by frauds like Lucas? I have learned to THINK FOR MYSELF. I have FREED MY MIND from the blind, facts-ignoring hope and hero-worship direced at lucas and his dead franchises. AND I have pointed out that the emperor has no clothes so that others can free themselves too. I ask again: what have YOU done - except fall into line and become a Lucas apologist? When you have evolved into an independently thinking organism that is able to judge things independently of marketing campaigns, hype and nostalgia - THEN you will have a right to criticise me.But we both know that's never going to happen. So back to the flock with you. You'll need to get sheared if you're going to survive this hot weather.
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could be a winner
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May 11, 2008 8:25:46 AM CDT
INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CALL FOR THE LUNCH SPECIAL
by bringingsexyback
Shamoan!
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Quack quack!
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May 11, 2008 8:36:12 AM CDT
I love how people like Roccio review films
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
before seeing them. Asshole, it's Spielberg, Lucas, Ford and Williams. This is what geeks should dream of. If you hate Lucas for the prequels, yes you are an asshole. They were made for kids. Always have been, always will be. The fact is parts 4,5 & 6 had better chemistry with the actors. Parts 1,2& 3 had the better plots. Lucas made his movies, not yours. Any cunt who hates on Indy needs his geek status revoked!
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if you think this is gonna lose money you reveal how truly stupid you are.The last one was the biggest hit of the year worldwide. What, is everyone from the 80's dead? Nostalgia alone earns this 500 million worldwide.
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Remember that little slogan from Lucasfilm in 1999. This was before the awfulness of TPM was unleashed on the world. They were so full of themselves that they thought they were making fun of the Godzilla movie - that, bad as it was, was still leagues better than TPM.The prequels had better plots????? Dirtyjokes, I will give you a million dollars if you will have a sticker made with EXACTLY THOSE WORDS, stick it on your forehead, and wear it for the rest of your life.But back here on Planet Earth, teams of archeologists are still trying to unearth even the smallest fragment of a plot in the Star Wars prequels.
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so every time i come on here to track my soon to be new favorite movie your in the tb bagging on george ? i mean i know you got a ton of time on your hands after that restraining order he put on you for threatening to sodomize him but damn man get a fucking grip . and if someone hears from that punk poeticwanker let him know he's a classless little twit . someone oughta stomp him into a puddle of blood .
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if not for Shia. Ryan Reynolds as the son would've been great, or a return of Short Round and Sallah and maybe a love triangle between Indy, Marion and Willie. If you're gonna do nostalgia right and end Indy with a bang, that's how it's done. Not a lesser sequel to Crusade.
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to do a non-Indy movie together. Maybe a present-day political thriller in the vein of Munich.
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May 11, 2008 9:03:59 AM CDT
poeticwarriorII, they ARE making it for the fans....
by jarjarsjockstrap
And, clearly, you are not one. When Indy 4 got greenlit, EVERYONE on these boards was complaining about how if Karen Allen wasn't in it, they'd boycott the film. About how if Marion, Indy's best gal, wasn't in the film, it'd be a complete stinkbomb. So, what'd they do? Ah, gee, nothing -- just cast KAREN ALLEN. I thought everyone here would be pumped about that, because that was CLEARLY done for the fans -- but they weren't. You, and many others, are still complaining about this film. I watched Raiders and Temple of Doom on USA last night, and the action is INCREDIBLY corny, Ford runs like an old man at age 38, the action looks identical to the upcoming film, and the effects looked MISERABLE. That foregoing notwithstanding -- they were still a blast to watch. Indy movies are indy movies. This one looks no different. You just have an incredibly short memory. Most people here do. It's sick.
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Temple the far better movie. Raiders had better cinematography. Marion returning is great, just spoiled by Mutt.
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It's ABUNDANTLY clear why they cast him -- for the kiddies. Look, this is the dude from even stevens, the dude from holes, the dude from transformers. All of the nickelodeon-watching kiddies out there LOVE this guy. Hate him as you may, THEY love him. This move WAS done to get kids to see the movie, and it's going to work. Everyone else knows who indy is, and they're all pumped about it. I havent talked to ONE non-geek who isn't completely jazzed about this film. Indiana Jones is universally loved by almost every film goer on the planet -- seriously. He has no demographic. He appeals to men, women, the young, the old, etc, etc, etc. Rare is a character or a film franchise that has that kind of power. This movie is going to be both ripped apart and praised by critics, and the heavy majority of the film-going public is going to eat it up like candy-coated candy. Like I said before, the short memories of people on this site KILL me. And for the record, PINEAPPLE EXPRESS (can't wait for the 12432342342342342 site reviews on that one) has nothing on Harold and Kumar. Why, you ask? N.P.H.
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When Indy was hanging off the front, why didn't they just all stop and shoot him?
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May 11, 2008 9:13:57 AM CDT
I DON'T THINK INDIANA JONES APPEALS TO THE NEO-NAZI DEMOGRAPHIC
by bringingsexyback
I might be wrong, but I don't think so.
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Same reason there wasn't any blood on the cockpit window of the plane after the nazi brawler got mauled by the propeller....eeven though there was blood in the previous shot. It's a silly movie. But I'll be damned if it's not the best intentional popcorn film ever made.
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Someone's gonna fucking pay.
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I'm just playin'. Although the propeller thing was a bit excessive.
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I don't belong to any "flock", Merriman. I'm nowhere near a "Lucas apologist" (By Christ I'm sick of the moronic fanboyish hyperbole of that term). I told you directly in one of the previous talkbacks that I thought the prequels "blew goats"; surely you can put this insane fantasy of yours that I actually admire George Lucas to bed by now? I just now explained to you that if this film sucks (and I'm adult enough to concede the possibility; I have from the get-go) I will be disappointed. That disappointment will linger about one day. Then? I will get on with my life. I will probably pop by to register my pique with all of you and to be thoroughly entertained in watching you thrill to the fanboys' lamentations while doing a little jiggy-jig in front of your computer, cackling girlishly in surrogate sexual pleasure, secure in your "superiority" over the Lucas-o-logists. (I'm proud to be called the first, you honour me, Great Sage) What a grand achievement that will be! What a Victory! You know, I think you should take this valiant crusade of yours to the streets, Merri. Print up some flyers, scribble your lunatic, irrelevant manifesto about the evils of Lucasfilm onto a moldy sandwich board and hit the multiplexes on May 22. There's plenty more endangered childhood hymens out there in the urban centres for you to save. So get to it, Mighty Saviour! I double fucking dare you. Let's see how far your deranged sermonizing gets you with the man on the street.
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Was AWFUL editing. So, yes, even the the holiness that is raiders had continuity errors. It's just a frigign' popcorn film, and that's why i dont get the hate around here. i DID get the star wars hate, because star wars is a religion to some, and they had an actual plot they had to fill. this film is a sequel that was done for pure fun.
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Probably the most honest and accurate review we'll see on this site about the film, and most entertaining, lol
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You and I have no quarrel then. Perhaps I will take the campaign to the streets. Good idea. I'll still come here though, to smash through the apologists' delusions.Already doing my jiggy dance, Laserbrain - from the moment the reviews started posting. Is my celebration a little premature? Perhaps. But I'm so confident that I was right - and so encouraged by these initial reports - that I have allowed myself to declare victory a week-or-so earlier than planned. But you can't really blame me, can you? After all, this is the culmination of my campaign for the last six months - against the deafening bleating of the die-hard Lucassheep - who have been declaring that this movie" will rock!" from the second it was announced.But when all the other reviews start pouring in next week, by God will I be shouting 'I TOLD YOU SO!' from the rooftops! So be sure to join me here on AICN for my full-blown victory extrazaganza. You ain't seen nothing yet.
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I can't say I agree with you about Raiders not engaging the emotions especially when compared to Superman 2 which is Goofy SHit!
But I just watched Lost Ark again about an hour ago and it's bloody perfect and highly emotionally engaging, well written, performed, directed and just about the best action adventure film ever (star wars pips it if SCi-Fi's your bag) Anyway I'm glad to read things like - ''The crystal skulls ET origins are dealt with from an archeological standpoint so, it’s consistent with the previously established Indy mysticism''''I viewed it as a second trilogy all rolled into one, they went for broke with nonstop set pieces that remind us Steven Spielberg can easily best any current action director''''I’ll look forward to seeing it again with friends and having a good time. Sometimes, that’s what a good movie is for''
Can't wait!
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I think I speak for everyone here who visit AICN once in a while to see what's going on when I say - You need to get a FUCKING life. I just don't understand your glee at saying "I told you so" about a movie "sucking" that you haven't even seen. Even if the movie does "suck" it doesn't make you any less of an idiot. The "I said it sucked first" rationalle that you have regarding Indiana Jones just means that you were the first person to be an annoying pimple of the ass of fandom. So enjoy it while you can. Some of us enjoy these movies for what they are - MOVIES.
BTW I would love to know what your favorite movie is of the last 10 years. And don't go safe with Iron Man, or The Matrix... You know you have some favorites that are all yours. Let us in on what makes Merriman Lyon tick. Obviously you don't enjoy Indiana Jones, in fact you seem to have it out for the man in the hat. Or better yet, inform us of the amazing films that you have been involved in creating... We'd all love to hear about those. -
It's an okay attempt at parody, but it COULD be better. Put a bit of humour in it, will ya? If I had the time to parody your ass, you'd better believe it'd be hilarious!
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I've said it before and I'll say it again - it's the best out of the three. The tone, the look, and the fact that it contains more iconic moments then the other two combined make it one of the most perfect movies of all time.For me, TOD is what took the character into pulp territory. (RAIDERS never had that feel.) And while there are some great set pieces and laugh-out-loud moments (the guy getting knocked out by the sledge-hammer is a personal fave), it's tarnished by a silly badguy, the ever annoying Willie, decidedly rougher violence, and some garish lighting, editing and special effects. I think it's the most uneven of the trilogy and the one responsible for the seeming "turnaround" brought by THE LAST CRUSADE.And with all this early, bad pre-pub for CRYSTAL SKULL, I really don't want to have to wish that CRUSADE's final image would have been Indy's last.
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A good movie is a good movie, and it isn't about being a kid or a nostalgia thing. How come we were all adults and enjoyed LOTR's trilogy? How come people enjoyed The Matrix? The same people that loved Star Wars and Indy loved those movies cause they were good. I know a bad or average movie when I see one. I saw Superman IV in the mid 80's and it sucked then and sucks now, and being a kid and an adult now has not changed my opinion for 20 years. I knew in the late 80's that Raiders was the best of the Indy Trilogy, I knew that Star Wars & Empire were the best, and I knew that the PT was not that great, and was living off the Star Wars name. I am not going to give my opinion on Indy IV til I see it, but please stop telling people they can't judge a movie cause were not kids anymore. There was a reason Star Wars & Raiders were loved by kids in '77 and '81 and still loved now by the 30 somethings: THEY ARE GREAT MOVIES FOR THEIR GENRE!!!!
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Raiders can never be topped because it was original. The sequels have poked a lot of fun at the characters, and while they are still fun movies, they don't take themselves as seriously - but lets face it even Raiders did not take itself too seriously. When Spielberg made Raiders, he was, in my opinion, at the absolute top of his game as an original film maker. To that point, he hadn't made any sequels, or been a part of any sequels.
That said, I still love the Indy sequels because of the fun they have with the character. They still deliver fun set pieces, and excitement. The new one looks to be more of the same... and I mean that in a good way. -
..Now that's what I'm talking about. The image of you in your balerina outfit elicited a chuckle. The rest wasn't bad either.
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You are right - a good movie is a good movie. However, there were a lot of people older than we were when Star Wars came out that just didn't get it - didn't see what the big deal was - to them it was just a movie. There is an ability to accept things in movies when you aren't quite as jaded as we become as adults. If we had been our age now when Star Wars first came out - who knows what we would have thought of them.
Back when I saw Star Wars and Raiders in the theater, I didn't know about film-making techniques, didn't know about the things I sometimes think about when watching movies today. Because of these films, I studied the art of film, and now have different views as to what makes a great film.
They seem fewer and farther between now-a-days, don't you think? But your comparison to LOTR and The Matrix is good, because those were good films that took us beyond the ordinary.
I hate the idea that getting older has changed my views abut movies, but it obviously has a bit. Once in a while something comes along and blows your mind - usually something that was slipped under the radar. I'm totally looking forward to Indy, but I accept that I know too much about it already for it to take me by surprise.
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If it were not for him there would be NO Indiana Jones or Star Wars.. leaving some of you nerds with a very empty, hollow life
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that George and Spilbergo are breaking in TheBeef in this movie so they can pass the Indy reigns onto him afterwards..
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I understand what your saying about older people not getting alot of movies we grew up with, but I have to disagree with you about Star Wars in 1977, EVERY age group loved that movie. Heck, my mom and my older brothers loved it and they HATE Scifi/Fantasy movies, but for some reason Star Wars, and its good vs evil story really touched a nerve.
Now as for getting older, are we more cynical in our older age about sequels/prequels then we would be when we were kids? Yes, alot cause of the interent, alot cause of DVD's, and alot cause we are not naive anymore, as times have just changed. But after I got a DVD, I pretty much bought all the movies I loved as a kid, and I realized the originals of all these series really hold up: Back to the Future, Raiders, Superman:The Movie, and Star Wars, and the rare exception was Empire.
So, in a sense you're right that as a kid, I probably didn't go in with predosposed notions that these sequels would be inferior, but I look back, I felt that way back then, but I guess we didn't have them on DVD/Video sitting on a shelf next to each other and compare. I just watched them on HBO a zillion times, and kinda took them for what they were worth, and realized Return of the Jedi just wasn't as great as Star Wars. -
As for what is a great film, Star Wars/Indy/Superman/BTTF are all from a genre where they are not going to be considered 'artsy' in a sense of that great filmaking, but that doesn't mean their bad movies, or not great movies, they are entertaining in a different style.
Is Schindlers List a better movie then Star Wars? Yes and No, it has better acting, a more deeper story that resonates, but Star Wars is not trying to be that type of drama, so you can't compare the two. Is Schindlers List a great movie, most definitely! If I had a choice on a Sunday afternoon, would what I watch: Star Wars in a second, cause it is a fun AND a well crafted movie with a touch of drama, comedy, and mythology.
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generational boundaries. I think the "you're not a kid anymore" criticism is aimed at people who want the same experience watching these films that they had when they were seven years old. They're chasing the dragon. Looking for that first hit. As the get older and it never arrives they become jaded and cynical. To them everything sucks because it does not pass the nostalgia test.
I agree that a surprising number of my favorites from my childhood hold up, but I enjoy them differently today. I can recognize the craftsmanship and talent involved in these films. However, I no longer go into them looking for the same experience I had when I was younger.
When I go see Indy 4 I'll be looking at how well the film entertains and the talent of the filmmakers. I will not go in looking for the same experience as watching Raiders for the first time as a child. If it's a good movie then that's great, and if it sucks then too bad. I always have the original. What I'm not going to do is make a claim it absolutely sucks long before I've see the film. -
to me at least, this new Indiana Jones film has JURASSIC PARK: THE LOST WORLD and HOOK written all over it, i.e. a lesser Spielberg effort.
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Have we all lost our whimsey!?
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Could be.
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See I don't think we changed, I think movies have changed, unfortunately alot for the worst. Every time period of movies has one great genre: The 40's had the romatic movies like Casablanca, African Queen, the 50's/early 60's had epics like Ben Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, the early 70's had gritty movies like Serpice, French Connection, Dirty Harry, and the late 70's/early 80's had Fantasy without CGI like StarWars, Raiders, and Superman, and post Jurassic Park it is the age of CGI and those movies just aren't made for our generation like Raiders wasn't made for the older generation that loved Casablanca. I still contend that Star Wars/Raiders/Bladerunner/BTTF/Aliens/Wraith of Khan is the best time period of those types of movies where the directors had to have good characters and a good story, cause they didn't have CGI to fall back on. Of course there are still great movies from this genre as I hope Dark Knight could be one of them, but again, there are more CGI-fest movies that are a series of quick edits, stupid humor, and one dimensional characters, and that is what this generation of kids are going to stand by when they are our age.
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I think that people who hate Hook just don't have an affinity for the story. They don't like the idea. It's certainly not bad on the level of cinematography. It's not poorly written. It had a great score. It gave a fresh spin to a familiar story. The performances weren't particularly bad.
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of a statement made by the anthropologist Claude Levi-Strauss. He was talking about old myths compared to modern art and compared them to stone age and bronze age tools. He said that both tools have the same amount of complexity but are merely made out of different material. Therefore, you should judge the complexity of their craft, instead of what they're made out of. I think this applies to entertainments like Star Wars and dramas like Schindler's List. They're just made out of different material, but the craftsmanship can be just as complex in either.
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I'm not sure I agree that Spielberg was "...at the absolute top of his game" when he made ROTLA... Although Raiders is one of my top 5 films of all time and I would have to say that the years from JAWS to IJATTOD was the golden era of Spielberg... the film he made before Raiders, 1942, was a stinker - even Spielberg admits it. It was a real risk for Lucas to hire him for Raiders after the financial and critical mess 1942 was. Many studio execs thought his directing career was done. Raiders was a "comeback" after a career ending stumble.
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I'm a dumb ass... "1942" should read "1941"... I guess that's how forgettable that film was.
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ran the fuck off just when I was getting warmed up. Shit I was hoping solobear would post naked pics of his wife's moose knuckle for us but alas, it is not to be! Perhaps we can both enjoy some solobear ranting later today though!
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miscreant, if by "you're not a fan of IJ" you mean I don't want to see a disaster of a movie like TPM or any of the prequels, or you mean I don't wanna see some useless feminized cunt like Shite LeButtfuck stammer his way through a movie he clearly doesn't belong in, if you mean I don't want to watch a goddamn two hour commercial for the useless twat filled spin-off that if this movie suceeds to earn money will surely come, if you mean I don't enjoy sitting around jacking off to pics of Indy hugging Mutt all day with some shit for brains vaginal prolapse like yourself, if you mean I don't want to see Spielberg and Lucas release one more goddamn ignorant DVD boxset of IJ while shitting on HD, if you mean I think people like you that live life somewhere in your colon next to the twinkie you ate last night while watching Tron for the umpteenth and posting on AICN some diseased pussy bullshit, then yes I am DEFINATELY NOT a fan. But hey you're a true fan so feel free to look like an ignorant bukakke loving ass pirate.
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have certainly been "breaking in" Shia in more than one way during this movie. I'll agree with you that his involvement here smells like an anchovies cunt. They've got plans for the Jew Fro, and those plans are going to be bullshit. And while you can feel free to felate Lucas if you wish, his recent tinkerings have ruined everything he worked so hard to establish. He's negated himself and his work by the abominations he's created over the last 15 years. But yeah, thank god for Lucas.
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You're full of shit when you say more people like the prequels than hated the prequels. You must live life up your ass to spout shit like that fuck nut. If those movies didn't have Star Wars attached to them Lucas never would've had the money to do the other two. If TPM had been done first, Star Wars wouldn't even be a blip on the radar because that goddamn movie was fucking rancid sloppy bullshit that needed a shitload of excuses to support it. Star Wars is DEAD. Stick a fork in that shit. When this shitty cartoon falls on its ass and that goddamn live action series gets canceled after 4 episodes maybe you'll learn, but I doubt it.
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hey obvious dripping PC cunt, how are ya? Jesus, grow a set of balls will you fuckwad. Get a second goddamn job or masturbate more, whatever will help your sorry ass be not offended by every little thing you fucking worthless cunt of a man. You're such a pussy I bet your father castrated himself after he took one look at you, you fucking Jew Fro lover.
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Someone ban this racist fucker please.
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if that is racism to you then you should go over to Yackbackers house and join in with the taint licking party he's throwing today. You're a worthless fucking maggot you easily offended twat. Maybe you two can start your own homo prostitute service, Rim Jobs-R-Us. Fuck you very much for your opinion though you leg humping dip shit.
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You are my f***ing hero at the moment. Tears of laughter are streaming down my face. Now that's what I call telling 'em where to go.
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I think the internet brings out the real hate and love of the Prequels that I don't see in everyday people I talk to. Most people I know don't hate them, nor love em, they have just kinda moved on, and if they were diehard SW fans, they either tried to like them, or thought they were OK. Most people I know think SW & ESB are the best of the bunch, then kinda like ROTJ cause it still has all the characters, probably think ROTS is the best of the PT, only because it has 60% of the backstory(quoted from Lucas) and TPM & AOTC have their moments, but are too cluttered with Jar Jar, Jake Lloyd and that awful romance, and really don't hold replay value. My friends kids don't hate the Prequels, but they dont hate anything at that age! They look at them as 6 movies, but I know for a fact they enjoy the OT more, and the only PT movie they get juiced about is ROTS. SW-fandom is the only one that dissected and second guessed, as most people agree that Godfather III is the worst of the trilogy, Superman III & IV suck, why do people have to defend the PT by saying, "The OT had shitty dialogue and bad acting, etc. If it had that, why would have anyone loved em?
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its not like he said kike-fro
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when they've been marred to the point where they leave a sour taste in fans' mouths. Superman is fucking dead. Die Hard is dead. Parody movies are dead. Star Wars, like it or not, is dead. Any attempts to return them to the pedestals they were once on will fail.
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how to be anything but yammering old women that piss and moan and cry foul then sit around with their fingers in their twats waiting on someone to rescue them from the awful things that have offended their womanly sensibilities. Everything's a fucking offense to these cunts but they all sit around waiting on someone else to do something for them. But I am glad you can get a chuckle at their expense, somebody needs to. They are awfully funny at the end of the day and this is such good sport.
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perhaps I should have said "people with HUGE noses-fro" or "dudes with sweet ass side-burn curls-Fro" or "people against baby Jesus-Fro", you know something more sensitive to the women folk on here. I suppose Heimi-Fro is right out?
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waiting on someone to tell us exactly why and how Jew-Fro is racist, since technically he is Jewish and he does have one massive Fro going on. He looks an awful lot like Kyle Schwartz come to think of it.
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You both make great points. And I agree that all of the films you mentioned still hold up, and I love all of them too. Maybe the problem lies more with the amount of product that has been coming out since the boom in the 80's. A lot less originality, it seems. Or at least you have to sort through a large amount of un-original bad content to get to the good stuff. If that makes any sense, I don't know.
As for 1941 - I actually enjoy that movie for the giant mess it is. There are some pure classic scenes in that movie. Then there is all the other stuff. Maybe not "top of his game," But Jaws, CE3K, Raiders, ET - That is the Wholy Quadfecta - within 6 years, Spielberg created 4 of the greatest theater experience movies in cinema history.
But that was when going to the theater meant something more. I'm just as guilty - I love my home theater, and I have every Spielberg and Lucas film in the library along with classics from every era of film. I'm a film fan to the bone becasue of Spielberg and Lucas's work, and I probably do give them more of a benifit of the doubt - even through the prequels.
I gotta admit, though Iron Man was a great start to the summer. Even with all the glowing reviews here, I still managed to love it. Saw it twice, and would see it again if it werent for there being a new movie out every freakin' week.
Remember when Raiders played for MONTHS. Star Wars actually played for over a full year at the theater that had it where I lived. A full year. Now you get a week. Maybe two.
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confused with your GF's diseased cunt. You know I saw that bitch walking around in the mall the other day and for a second I thought someone was changing her oil, but then I realized it was just her chronic case of The Clap acting up.
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1941 had some funny fucking moments in it despite its flaws. My favorite is when Wild Bill falls trying to get into his Warhawk. Now that was freakin' funny. And while Spielberg and Lucas have done some great things they have done some equally bad if not worse mistakes. Especially with their recent work. It's just gotten so sloppy and I can guarantee you that they surround themselves with people that tell them yes and brown-nose them.
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Pretending to be I am the Terminator or did you tell your mommy to come on here and defend your honor for you? I'm not sure if recycling ones own insult against him is technically an insult back, but if it makes you feel better then OK. I try not to pick on the retarded.
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you are retarded. Let me know when you get something of your own Corky. Until then feel free to sit there with drool running down your chin while you shit yourself.
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you are drippy. Let me know when you get something to mop that up, Drippy. Until then feel free to sit there with leakage dripping out your twat while you shit yourself.NEW AND IMPROVED. AGAIN. PWNED!!!
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Dude, enough. You seem to want this to fail, and I don't get it. yes, I get it that you don't like shia. OH, WELL. The majority of the movie-going public adores him. that's right, hombre -- ADORES him. The nerds on here hate him, but most people genuinely, truly like him. Sorry. Also, stop comparing this to TPM. It's NOT a Star Wars film, first of all. Second, it's being directed by arguably the greatest commercial director -- if not, the greatest director -- of all time. It's in good hands. Thirdly, tres, tre, this is an INDY film. I watched the triology on USA this weekend, and they are incredibly corny, silly, off-the-wall flicks. Yes, even raiders. The bad guys DO pause with confused looks before indy hits 'em with his grandpa punch, and indy runs like he has to take a crap. Dude, these films are pure fun -- nothing more. Raiders was simply groundbreaking, so it gets a lot more love than the rest. In conclusion, the spaghetti monster makes a cameo.
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PUNCH THE KEYS, FOR GOD'S SAKE!
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Snakes are nothing compared to these blood suckers!
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he was awesome in raiders
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That new Harry animation is genius.
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Cate: "We've met before, haven't we?"
Indy: "I don't think so. Where was it that you think we met?"
Cate: "At your house. Don't you remember?"
Indy: "No, no I don't. Are you sure?"
Cate: "Yes, of course. As a matter of fact, I'm there right now."
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"You betrayed Labia! Thum Labia Ke Vishwasth Karthe Ho! You betrayed Labia!"
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will save this movie from shia and his mum being kinda lame. but overall i know i'll love this movie and watch it 50 times on bootleg before it even hits dvd like i did the prequels. i wonder how fans would of reactedif natalie portman was in place of shia like the rumors from long ago?
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during the bridge scene in temple, capshaws temples were fine
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Just a word of warning to everyone on here. Don't waste your valuable time trying to talk/argue with the so-called Poetic Warrior. He either can't or doesn't want to try to hold a decent, halfway intelligent conversation about film, or anything else, for that matter. His sole purpose in being here is to incite bad feelings by trying to insult not only films but the people who make them and those who enjoy them. He has no intelligence whatsoever. And the worst part of it all is that if you get caught up in arguing with this fool, it's not hard to get one up on him, but all that does is fuel his particular form of diseased communication skill. If you don't agree with him, then you are his enemy, and he wills top at nothing to attempt to belittle and/or insult you, your family and the things you enjoy. If this sick freak turns up here again, ignore him. Don't give him the satisfaction of falling into his septic trap. He's just not worth it.
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You can't take anything personally here. Just have fun with it.
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I think you're being a bit harsh towards Poeticwarrior. He may have made some light-hearted references to the size of your wife's behind, but then the girth of our wives'/girlfriends' posteriors is an issue that affects us all.
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you really should go buy some OOPS Vomit Sawdust Absorber for your womans bread making cunt. Her pussy smells like an anchovies twat stuffed with Limburger and left in the sun to rot. Just a hint dude, a foamy bush should not be used like a shaving cream brush. That's bad!
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I don't know how the fuck you come up with a general public adoring Shite LeButtfuck. I mean if you're going to make shit up on the spot there's really no point in talking to you, but then again having a brain pan full of ass chili will sometimes lead to that. This dork is a loathsome annoying prick that has virtually no talent save for being a fellow Jew to Spielberg and having an afro the size of Solobears wife's ass. He plays the same fucking thing in every movie he's in. He's a one note POS that you alone seem to ADORE. So, I'll leave you to ADORE him by your lonesome with nothing but your moms fur coat and jergens. You then say that Indy is no TPM. Right, but if that is your sole claim that this can't be just as fucked up and bad then hombre, your argument is fucked. GL has been fondling and petting this franchise just as long as he has SW and considering both of these guys, and yes that includes your beloved greatest commercial director of all time, have lost what little mind they had left I think you're giving this franchise a little too much credit of being dumb ass proof.
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You come one here spouting so much self-pitying horse shit it boggles the mind how you, being the pussy that you are, was able to find you're wifes hole without first rolling her in flour. You're so full of poor me I can only imagine the disdain your wife feels for you every time you slither into bed and beg for some ass while clutching at her with that casper milquetoast clammy paw. You point fingers at me like you're some bastion of talkback sainthood when I've got news for you shit head, I believe you used the term "word ridden shit" toward me. That's fair enough, go ahead, I'm more than capable of taking up for myself and replying to you in kind. But then when I do your vagina starts hurting and you come in here whining and pissing and moaning like the cunty you are. I can only hope your wife doesn't allow you to pass on the DNA you've been cursed with because the world doesn't need more people devoid of the ability to take care of themselves. We don't need more "men" who have to have their ass wiped by someone else and their twats douched so they don't get cranky and cry like a little bitch. If you can't take it you "divorce waiting to happen" then shut that cum catcher you try to call a mouth and continue crying yourself to sleep.
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OOPS Vomit Sawdust Absorber? BOY, YOU SUCK!!! You know what you should do?you really should go buy some sponges for your drippy twat. Your twat smells like an anchovies twat stuffed with Limburger and left in the sun to rot. Just a hint dude, a drippy twat should not be used like a bathroom mop. That's bad!See how it's done? NEW AND IMPROVED! PWNED!!!!!!!!!!
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That't not a crop circle. Haven't you ever stayed up all night watching cheap, crappy UFO documentaries on the History Channel?
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officially devoid of lady parts. They "get it" why can't you? Thank your mothers and fathers for raising you with some back bone and humor. Some of these guys sound like they are about to hang themselves over this.
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and devoid of any originality in the least, you are still funny in an "I can't believe he just ate his boogers" kinda way. I salute you!
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Er, Solobear, we'd like to hear how you answer the charges regarding your bedtime activities. Is it really as colourful as Poeticwarrior describes? Please let us know.
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and devoid of any usefullness in the least, you are still drippy in an "I can't believe he can't stop his drippy twat" kinda way. I pwn you!NEW AND IMPROVED! PWNED!!!
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I don't really think that's objectivity. Also, what's interesting is that the negative reviews are seen as plants, whereas this one is taken completely at face value.
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those pics of your wifes hairy moose knuckle to uglybushytwat@oopsiknockedherup.com.
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The general public DOES adore Shia. I'm sorry, but it's true. Suburbia, Holes, Transformers, etc. were all hits, and that's the bottom line. Look, I think Julia Roberts is god awful, but the general public doesn't seem to feel the same way. Alls I'm sayin' is that the people who frequent this site are hardcore film geeks comprising .0001% of the film-going public. It's cool that you don't dig shia, but the reason he was cast in this IJ film was his marketability to kid folk and the general public. He's riding a pretty high wave right now -- I'm sorry.
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Randy, nice to have a back and forth argument on the net without the name calling and the insults. I do agree that the theater experience has truly changed. The last film I actually had to wait a couple of days to see because we couldn't get tickets was Batman '89, the luster of waiting is gone, as most movies have a huge opening weekend, an OK second week, and then the next blockbuster is the hit of the week. As much as I love DVD and my home theater system, the fun of waiting for a movie to come on TV is over, and that was really cool growing up. Man, I waited 6 years for Star Wars to come to HBO in 1983, and THEN you would watch them everyday after school. There was something special when you would tune into HBO and you would see see the Lucasfilm logo and then hear the 20th Century Fox Music, now the movie is out on DVD in 4-5 months, and the anticipation is gone. Times have changed, and that's just the way it is I guess.
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I meant disturbia...
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poeticwankerII, the sad part about all your shit talking is i've worked with shia and he would knock your dick in the dirt .no doubt about it . you see you hide behind your computer screen talking smack about folks but your the same little runt that doesn't say shit to anyone out on the street because your still holding on to mommies apron . please , please i hope your sitting in the same theater as me on may 22nd because if you open your mouth i'm going bitch slap you . and lay off people's wives chief ,just cause you still dry hump your pillow don't give you the right to bag on real men getting pussy .
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QUOTE FROM NY TIMES:
"The man who posted as ShogunMaster, reached via the Web site, said he is a theater executive who saw the film at an exhibitors’ screening this week. He spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid reprisal from the studio.
Paramount had shown the film to a handful of theater company executives at its Los Angeles lot and elsewhere."
What a moron!! I mean this guy is promoting negative feedback over a movie that his theater hopes to generate a butt load of cash from - and he pans it. I wonder if ShogunMaster has a chip on his shoulder. Maybe he wasn't invited to the screening and was so pissed - he decided to take revenge.
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May 11, 2008 7:19:37 PM CDT
jarjarsjockstrap, if what you're basically saying to me...
by poeticwarriorii
is that the general public is devised of a bunch of 12 year olds and ignorant twats that wouldn't know one tub of shit from another then yes, I think we can agree on that. That's something I suppose.
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Since Derek Flint wrote a qualified positive review, saying he's not the biggest fan of the series, and just had a good time, people are calling him a plant that's being "defensive?" Sounded like a reasoned, well written review to me. ShogunMaster's review was crude and seemed to come from a low IQ.
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Actually what should happen is the CEO of the theater chain (Regal?) should fire his ass for lowering their profit margin due to his negative comments. Theater owners are just as bad if not worse than the studios themselves.
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you fucked Shite LeButtfuck in the ass, I'm inclined to think you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you're completely full of shit. I'm sure you also told him that those sores on your dick were just a special kind of french tickler, but hey, I understand you're protecting the honor of the ass you used to tag. You're one of those internet tough guys that likes to sound like a total douche by threatening physical violence over the internet and tell people lies about once upon a time I tagged this guy with a jew fro right in his poop chute. Thanks for playing and keep up all the good work twat. By the way tell us all which theater you'll be attending so you can hurt whoever shows up will ya? I'm really really interested fuck stick.
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how completely fucking stupid you sound threatening me with some queer Jew beating me up and that you would help him. I mean, jesus, what are you 10? If only you were actually here, and if only you really knew LeButtfuck, I truly would love to see that.
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hey dipshit don't believe me on either ... but i'll be at the arclight theater on sepulveda and ventura blvd. thur at 12pm thats in sherman oaks you little tool .i must have hurt you feelings though cause you seem real defensive . see you there tough guy .
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Well, the same public did shell out over $100 million to see The Fantastic 4....
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Just watched this absolute piece of shit. Painful & gloomy eperience. Reminded me of PoeticWarrior2. That cunt. There's nothing positive to say about this crap. Nothing. At all. Worst of the 4. Hands down. Its like PW2 mother and GL & SP said. "I wish I didn't have him". Every copy should be burned. Every single one!
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I've thought it through. I'm certain every single
copy of the muck should be burned. Rubbish bordering on pornography at times with hearts being ripped out etc. Simply SHIT. 100% SHIT. The red end credits. Jesus! Steven. Fuck off! And thank god you married her and kept her off the screens as long as possible. No actress there little yo. None at all at all.
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and fuck you again. Temple of doom is awesome and you are a piece of shit. Fuck you you miserable and loathsome bitch.
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You are a class act. I too like discussing film without resorting to "mamma is a ho" and "masturbation in your mamma's basement" garbage... too much of that on talkbacks these days.
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It's Indian fucking Jones, for shit's sake.
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Terrible piece of filmmaking. Its a con. Rubbish. Trash. Crap. Pooh. A mistake.
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not Temple of Doom. Awful gloomy score compared to Temple of Doom's score.
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...instantly makes Temple Of Doom a masterpiece.
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Best line since "Rosebud."
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Pwns you all!
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All your bases are belong to Short Round!
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*Stabs Indy with burning torch*
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"is in a position UNSUITABLE TO GIVE ORDERS!"
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May 11, 2008 10:48:35 PM CDT
t40stunt, in the words of the immortal Ethan Edwards...
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"That'll be the day.", I know you've never seen that movie because you're an illiterate bastard but hey, you're the tough guy mongoloid here. I also just figured you out Rocky, you're the poor dumb bastard with the shitty fucktard father that used to call him a pussy everyday because you'd come home with some big bull queers nut sack sweat all over your chin from being "forcibly" sodomized. I say "forcibly" because apparently there was an extra added measure of guilt because way down deep inside in places you don't talk about at parties you relished being taken by the back of the head and skull fucked. I know, don't cry big guy, it's not often someone looks deeply into another's soul and sees their gut wrenching pain and guilt so clearly, but I could tell by the way you were flirting with me and giving me your location you really did miss those days. Sadly for you I don't swing that way but you can't have everything. Now, down to brass tacks. Since you enjoy name dropping so much tell us all just what project you worked on with TheQueef? I'm interested and so are all of the talkback readers in seeing your work. If not, I understand a twat like you has to make himself feel special somehow. And since you're so free with personal info, drop your name and address in here so the next time I'm in Cali I can come by and knock out your old ladies front teeth with my cacker. It'll be more dick than the sweaty pigs had in a while I'm sure. And in case you were wondering your empty douche bag threats are cracking me up. In the history of twats on AICN you are certainly the twatiest. You're toolness is EPIC... EPIC shit bag. And for those of you who live in Cali, feel free to pay this shit heel a visit and have a laugh on him. He'll be the one out front shitting in his hand and throwing it at people.
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"they will be found! YOU WON'T!!! HA HA HA HA!!!"
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Can't fucking wait
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hunting the cat that shit in your mouth? I'm sure you did because of the ass eating contest you and solobear had with each other last night. I know you're a colossal cunty that enjoys being gagged with huge black dildo's and all, but you should really keep your self-loathing pent up a little more instead of coming on here and yammering on with lame ass "insults". You're nearly as bad at it as I am the Terminator. And he's making a concerted effort at being bad. And I don't know what kind of fucking snuff porn your pathetic ass is jerking off to but godddamn you should really go to a different store if that's what your getting shit bag. You're going to make your mother cry when she finds the tapes you've got stuffed under your mattress and really that's not fair to the whore.
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to be my new friend?
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perfectly, although Alex is more like an enema than an abortion. Just saying...
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You will ... you will be ... a true believer ...
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just treying to add to the conversation. star jones married a gay man. ha ha!!
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LOL ... scroll up for actual incantation ...
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"you will not do that!"
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if I get caught with a group that wants to go see it, I probably won't be the loan dissenting twat. But it won't be something I call people up to get them to go see. My anticipation bottomed out as soon as I saw that TheQueef was in it. Maybe if I was 10 again his smarmy "oh look at me I'm the quintessential American teenager" bit wouldn't wear me the way it does. But this motherfucker does one thing and one thing only and the only reason he's in this is because Spielberg has a fascination with untalented Jewish people.
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He no nuts. He cwazy!
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Quit dripping your twat all over this website.
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"hahahahahahah!" rolls into secret compartment ....and goodnight.
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TheQueef will somehow look more like Shortround. That would be much more entertaining than watching him donkey punch his way to a broken wrist.
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dude you guys are cracking me up.
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poeticwarriorII will somehow look more like Willie Scott. Then it would be much more entertaining to watch him fist fuck his drippy twat.PWNED!!!
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how was your mothers day?
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instead of cursing every other word while attacking other people he wouldn't be so useless. Until then, he'll have to keep dabbing his drippy twat. Pee-yuu!!
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how was your drippy twat day?PWNED!!!
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"Spielberg has a fascination with untalented Jewish people."BOO!!! That's just wrong and you should apologize. That is if you can stop your drippy twat.
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acting like you're 12 or retarded or incredibly eerily homosexual we'd pay attention to you more. As it is you just look like the cunt of the week yearning for someone to pay any kind of attention to you. By the way, did I tell you you're a cunt?
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his smarmy "oh look at me I'm the quintessential American drippy twat" bit wouldn't wear me the way it does.NEW AND IMPROVED. PWNED!!!
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Which colossal fuck wad are you normally since you're too much of a cockroach to use your normal handle?
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what a fuck up!
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say it with me why can't I quit you?
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As it is you just look like the cunt of the week yearning for someone to pay any kind of attention to you.Hey, we have something in common! That's exactly what I think when reading every single one of your posts. By the way, did I tell you you're a drippy twat?
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but your drippy twat mouth won't let you, will it. Oh, you're gonna love me.PWNED!!!
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The point I meant to get across in my comment wasn't that adults can't enjoy Indy films, just that they can't get the same kick from seeing them for the first time as they did as a kid. It's not that I don't still enjoy Indiana Jones, I'm just saying I don't think I'm going to get the same kick from this new one that I got from the original Indy films I first watched when I was in grade school.
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May 11, 2008 11:44:08 PM CDT
Arclight Theater, Sepulveda and Ventura Blvd, Thursday, High No
by irritable
EXT.THEATRE DAY
- A morbidly obese 40+ chainsmoking derelict glances nervously at a slightly built, heavily acned teenager in an INDIANA JONES SUX t-shirt. They sidle up to each other.
"Hey, are you, um, er, poetic ...."
"Yeah. Warm isn't it."
"Anyway man, seeya."
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Finally, someone who has a great attitude about the movie and who has posted a sensible review. Too many "armchair quarterbacks" as reviewers... -slamming a film, as if they themselves were PROFESSIONAL SCREENWRITERS and DIRECTORS. Anyone can sit back and take pot shots at *any* film and start pointing out why it wasn't good, or "why didn't they do THIS!?" --the "This" being what the reviewer wanted to happen. My answer to that is, WRITE YOUR OWN SCREENPLAY, get it made, and then sit back and smile when someone takes pot shots at your screenplay. Sure, nothing will ever compare to what we imagine the ultimate Indy (or any) film will be. My point is that these reviewers shouldn't slam films in such an arrogant fashion until they themselves have written their own stories. They should realize that a blank sheet of paper (or blank computer screen) is an intimidating thing. Writers are pulling this stuff from their imaginations; it simply didn't exist beforehand. I challenge anyone to write a good Indy screenplay --anyone who is slamming the film for "this" or "that." Write your own instead of wasting words criticizing the exciting work of others. Armchair quarterbacks... please step back. Imaginative writers/directors, I applaud you.
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I realize you had a busy day of ass fisting your mother during your deliverance like holiday, but butting that brown stained lump you call a nose in where it doesn't belong is pretty fucking retarded at this point. Not only that but holy shit couldn't your dumb ass possibly think of something a little more original than the same shit sniffing stuff that's been said on here a thousand times, are you that goddamn dumb to regurgitate shit for the umpteenth time and expect people to laugh at it?
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Careful, I'll taunt you again!!!
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because I know the fist time was so horrible I almost didn't make it, quit being such a cunty that's what Terminator is for. Fuck you for trying though, you unoriginal twat.
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especially after having been disappointed with those god awful prequels, had I not been so thoroughly pleased with Iron Man. Maybe those guys have gotten so old and so lazy that they just don't give a shit anymore. Whatever it is, their latest work has been less than stellar. Fuck, I hope I'm wrong. I hope I don't know what the hell I'm talking about but from watching those trailers and seeing TheQueef in full on Wild One, I'm not holding out any such hope. I have a bad feeling this is TPM all over again. Maybe it's just my intense hatred for TheQueef causing it, but I just can't help the dread of knowing he's horribly miscast in this as some bastard child of Indy. It's a forced ploy trying to capitalize on his "notoriety" and based solely on that. It's got nothing to do with his talent. And quite honestly I get the feeling that this entire movie is forced and pathetic from square one.
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hey i'm only 30. oh wait, you were talking about someone else. shit.
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lol, until the morrow then.
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Sounds like plural to me. Who are the other ones?
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Temple of Doom haters fail at life in the most basic sense.
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Strangely, I watched Iron Man earlier tonight. I'm not a fan of the comic book movies, but the cast kept me interested (Downey and The Dude were a lot of fun to watch, and Gwen was very pretty). And, yeah, Shia just pisses me off (despite the fact I can't think of one thing I have against him). More to the point, however, Harrison Ford is in his sixties: it's not the best time to bring up a son character/subplot angle into the franchise. But I'm not disagreeing about the forced aspect, I'm just hoping most of the negativity stems from people first seeing an Indy film as an adult, and not a 4th grader. Not like any of this matters, I'm still going to watch the flick within the first couple weeks.
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oh here we go, another dumb cunt that can't control himself when he "senses" someone with his pseudo-racist radar. Buddy, fuck off and die, you're two leg humping buddies already tried this once today so feel free to join them in their taint tickling party you yeast ridden pussy.
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...who are the other ones?
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I dislike is the fact that he's done the same thing in every movie he's ever been in. He always plays this douche that feels out of place in the world and responds by stammering and yammering some silly shit supposedly meant to be funny. That's it, that's all he does. I've never seen him do ANYTHING else. He's going to do the same thing in IJ and quite frankly watching how Spielberg tries to force that kind of character into this movie is going to be painful. A shoe horned son plot coupled with gee I'm so old my prostate hurts comments throughout is just not what an Indy movie should be. It could've been more but it's not because GL still thinks he's smart.
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eat shit and fuck off you PC cunty. Tell your two bf's I said hello when you get there twat.
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your tongue limbered up, solobear said his asshole needs a deep cleaning you PC tree hugging cunt.
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Pottymouth
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I thought you fell asleep? Are you having trouble letting go? Maybe your mommy will hug you and make you forget the bad man.
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I grudgingly give Shia some respect for that golf movie of his, cause I don't really have anything against the movie all in all. On the other hand, I just felt ashamed for typing that first sentence. And, yeah, Shia will be painful to watch in this movie, and so will Indy's interactions with him, and so on and so on. I just hope I can get past all that bullshit and enjoy a new Indiana Jones movie. DO NOT RESPOND TO THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS (I don't want to debate it, and I know it will anger most of this site's regulars): but, I've never felt any loyalty to Lucas or Spielberg. Yeah, they've made some really cool films, but they aren't the end all be all of coolness... they just have certain (fanboy-dedicated) corners of that room.
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It's like being pecked to death by a duck.
(The "pecks" being, in this case, your modest lexicon of Cut'N'Paste poo taunts).
GOODFUCKINGNIGHT all.
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i really do too. I love Raiders and this is another IJ dammit. But I know if this is more TPM than Raiders enjoying it is going to be really hard to do. I feel the same way about Spielberg and Lucas. They've done some great things but damn have they turned around and screwed it all up! These franchises would've been better had these guys had someone who wasn't afraid of telling them they just had a really bad idea when revisiting them.
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should give him a hug too.
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...is that his "fascination" is limited to a total of one "talentless Jew", yes?
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Love flying everywhere.....
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Interesting that this compares to Wrath Of Khan. Perhaps there will be another sequels with similarities to Trek?
Indy V: The search for the colostomy bag
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is that your two ass buddies were on here earlier trying to pull the same stupid shit as you, you fucking twat. We've been through this already although you're like a bitch I used to date that would sit around with her thumb in her twat trying to figure out what was going on and then she'd pop in and say some bitchy useless twatty thing and then she'd get pissed when nobody would pay attention to her. But it's a nice try, perhaps when your vagina quits hurting you and you learn how to google you won't be such a little whining bitch.
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just because I won't be baited into naming names so I have to listen to you and your slutty sisters pissing and moaning about racism and Jew Fros for the next 10 goddamn days does not mean there is only one, you get it shit for brains, or do I need to spell it out for you a little more? Now please continue your cock sucking and ass eating. And way to wait until you think I'm ignoring you before you post cunt.
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...from someone who thought Superman I, II and the fucking Star Trek films were better than Raiders.
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I see that although you're late to the party you can't seem to refrain from opening that bukakke machine you call a mouth to spew out some old tired fag joke. If you can't do any better than that I suggest you go back to picking the crotch crickets out of your minge and leave the jokes others. I'm glad you piped up though cunt, it was getting boring in here.
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You are damn right. Common sense does not exist in AICN
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You need to have sex. NOW.
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All of us love that movie. The characters walked into a giant space worm. That´s not less stupid than the fridge stuff in Indy IV.
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was busy ass fisting the mail man when I drove by. Maybe, I'll leave a deposit with the dirty whore tomorrow. But I'm glad to see you're paying attention while your not busy sucking someones nut sack shit bag.
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you're the lamest twat I've ever seen. Do another line of coke and stick that black thunder dildo back in your ass before your prolapse drops out again.
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yo clownfuck ... listen trying to pick a fight with you actually makes me feel bad . your like that little brother that tries to hide the fact that he's a raging homo and lets it all out on the world . to answer one of your above questions lets just say i'm real biased towards this flick . now i know you ain't going believe me but just read the last five letters in my login name and piece it into what i just said . thats how i know labeouf . yeah i know its hard to wrap your mind that industry folk are on here but hey we love movies just like anyone else and feel just as strongly in our opinions . one of mine is still the fact that he could stomp the crap outta you ...just saying . so go ahead call me a lair but find me on hear somewhere on the 23rd and i'll give you any info you might want and its unfortunate that you don't live in cali cause i'd have loved to rip off your stick arms and beat you down with them . maybe you can find someone on here that might want to defend your honor though . plesant dreams my little bitch
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...is that there are, in fact, no other "talentless Jews" you can think of in this regard, right?
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that enjoys lying about butt fucking celebrities, but you're also the most cunty "tough guy" I've ever seen. Is your twat hurting you again deary, is that why you're whining and crying and talking about how big and scary you are douche? Bwahahahahahaah, find you on here on the 23rd eh? Is that so you can post links to pictures with TheQueefs cock hanging out of the side of your mouth or are you going to tell us more insipid lies about who you're blowing next? Goddamn your the dumbest pussy I've ever seen. Go rub your clit a little more sissy and maybe you'll feel a little more like your old cunty self shit bag. And by the way you fucking redneck hillbilly I'm still waiting on your address so I can fuck your fat ass old lady while you're blowing your way to the top Hollywood. What a retard. And yeah you just keep posting shit heel I'll be waiting so very anxiously to hear what you've got to say. God know's I'll still remember your stupid ass by then you rancid pile of shit.
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go ahead and lick your own asshole if that makes you feel better, but you're still a fucking cunt whose father cries every time he sees what his loins created and you're still not baiting me into that fuck nugget. If you've got google use it you illiterate fuck and quit fucking t40stunt's ass so much.
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I'll have iced tea then, with a slice of lemon.
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that Terminator fuck wad because you just can't quit me either. So just keep running that shit hole mouth of yours goat fucker.
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Indy: "I'll have two roast beef sandwiches. Wait, I have coupon."
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don't you know lies make baby jesus cry, irritable says so. Are you so fucking deluded that you can come in here spouting shit about yourself that isn't true? Do you actually believe the lies you tell as you cry yourself to sleep. And hey dicknose, don't wait until the 23rd if you're so goddamn tough up your name and address right now. Go ahead Hollywood flash it right up there, I mean hey you're the big bad used tampon lets see it Hollywood. You should at least post your phone number so I can call that fat pig your fucking and tell her I'm on the way you bucket of pig vomit. I'll be waiting with bated breath ass hat.
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"Spielberg's penchant for talentless Jews"?
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oh man what a put down phew, man that was funny I think I feel another laugh coming on, wait.... wait.... ok no that was just gas. I didn't stall I just told you I wasn't going to get into it you stupid cunt. You wanted to know all the untalented Jewish actors he's worked with so google it motherfucker. I don't have to qualify a fucking thing to your cunty ass, nothing. I don't have to dignify one goddamn thing to you, nothing. Your just pissed off because you can't get me started on it cunt so get back to cleaning your vagina or whatever it is you do with your skanky minge when you're not looking like a dumbass on here.
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or that terminator fuck you were pretending to be earlier. Tell me, why are you so worried about it, do you possess a jew fro as well dick wart?
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* Boards plane marked "El Borak" *
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Just remember the wise words of Confucius: "He who farts in church, sits in his own pew."
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May 12, 2008 6:24:16 AM CDT
I DON'T WANNA GET INTO YOUR FLAME WAR BUT GOT 2 WORDS:
by bringingsexyback
Jeff Goldblum.
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That Confucious sure was wise.
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can't help themselves. It's like an impulse to open their mouths. It's really because they're my fan base and they just love to hate me. I'm basically the new J.R.
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PoeticWarrior. You wouldn't dare say that to me in the real world, child. Fucking behave yourself, you racist, immature, whiny little brat. I know the difference between politically correct and correct. You are neither. Now go have a wank and calm down.
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...called and stalled.
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Since the fighting has a 7th-grade-ish feel to it, we'll have to resort to a 7th grade form of correction:
The next person to post something harsh against PoeticWarrior (or anyone else for that matter) is openly admitting that they have regular sex with Bea Arthur and the like to lick the skidmarked boxers of Tom Arnold. -
I wasn't going to go there, but since you insist. Ben Kingsley is pretty god damn shitty most of the time, Christ his line-up of work reads like a what's what of schizophrenic decisions. Harrison Ford, while good as Han or Indy is pretty fucking terrible in everything else. Perhaps stevie brings out the best in him. And how about that Richard Dreyfuss? With the exception of Matt Hooper he's pretty much been a what exactly? Best actor for being a Jew in a shitty movie and a coke head? I'm pretty sure he's gotten batshit crazy in the last few years as well but that was probably from all the drugs. David Paymer, hey he's a real wiz bang right? I mean shit he's AWESOME!!! That dude is on everyone's A list. Jeff Goldblum as BSB stated, hasn't exactly been burning up any theater screens lately. Adam Goldberg, hey now, he's waiting to bust out right Pazuzu? Sacha Cohen, and yes I'm aware that you think this fucking guy is funny, but acting like a half-wit is not grounds for theatrical genius. But hey DocPazuzu you ignorant fuck just keep on dry humping t40's leg there buddy.
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fuck nut. TheQueefer is just the tip of the ice berg dumb ass. But thanks for playing anyway. Next time perhaps you'll stay in the corner sucking your thumb instead of wading in over your head pig vomit. You and Hollywood are just about on the same level.
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you next. you don't know what you've started. Can't you see how many times I tried to smoke that dumb bastard out? It was to no avail.
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you see one asshole starts and the cunts start falling out of the woodwork. MY FANS!!!!
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I wish I knew how to quit you! Come on give it that whiny ass voice you reserve only for your sneaky Uncle over Xmas break!!!
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Oh! You cut me to the quick! Such a wordsmith. Actually, everything you type means nothing, PoeticWarrior. Nothing. Except that you show yourself out to be a Nazi troll. I've nothing more to say to your vapidity. Outta here.
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Since we got a positive review, it's a FACT that this will be good, right genius?
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especially to you you overreacting cunt. If it didn't you wouldn't be on here insisting I converse with you. You'd shut the fuck up and ignore me, but you can't. I'm in your blood Talcy. I'm there to stay fuck wit. You can say "Outta Here" all you want. But you'll be back. Just like Pazuzu, you'll be back. You two can't quit me and you know it.
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I didn't read the review, I can't bear with any more spoilers, not with less than 10 days to go...
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and fellow warciples. How was your baseball game on Friday? Rained out? Ours was good--the pitching matchup between Sabbathia and Halladay was a good one. Sadly, we left in the 7th because our kids were restless, and that's when the Indians bats decided to wake up. Yesterday's game was rained out. They could have gotten it in, and should have, because it's raining worse today
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Nah, it was rained out, so they double dipped it on Saturday (didn't go). I saw that you went to a hell of a pitching match-up before the tribe slugged them. I'm very jazzed to see this...
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It was my daughter's birthday. She had a good time. Turns out Rick Manning (ex-Indians, and now broadcaster for Sportstime Ohio) sent out birthday wishes to her, so that was cool. But my son is only four, and he was more interested in Slider (the Indians mascot) and Cracker Jack. He caught on after a while and whenever a vendor would come into our section and yell, my kid's hand would shoot up. Beer, peanuts, hot dogs--didn't matter. His hand would go up and he'd be smiling. We had some Blue Jays fans in our section. A couple were drunk, but some were cool. One of them gave my kid a ball from batting practice, so that was nice of him. I'll probably check out another game this week, and again the 23rd
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I've found that the drunks generally aren't as bad at baseball games as at football games, so you can bring kids to the game. Except Saturday afternoon games.
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the Nazca lines. Look them up on wikipedia or answers.com
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I'll probably be at a midnight show on the 21st, then take my daughter sometime on the 22nd. I keep going back and forth about the midnight thing, but who am I kidding? I'll be there.
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I see the Doc in embroiled in another war!
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I can hardly wait.Toad, how goes it? Yeah, poetic is starved for attention it seems.
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I saw Speed this weekend, I enjoyed it - for what it was.
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I'm a lot like the reviewer. I like the Indy films, but I'm not a die hard fan. It's probably been 7 - 10 years since I've watched any of them. I liked Raiders, didn't really care much for Doom, and really liked Crusade (probably because it was the first of the films that I saw in a theater).
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Did you see what we had to deal with in the Harry Steele thread with Merriman? Oh, and check out thread 36667...check out who posted near the end there. Jarv will be so disappointed. You've had some rather unpleasant run-ins with him as well...
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Doubt I'll ever check it out, but good to hear you enjoyed it Toad.
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Our summer is off to a good start...
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But, I channeled my inner child, and said 'WTF?' This really will be an extraordinary summer for movies - both on the radar and below it.
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When it comes to the Star Wars prequels and Indy 4 the "it's for the kids" argument is complete and utter shit. The "kids" of today weren't even an itch in their daddies pants when the original movies were released. The "kids" who saw those movies then are adults today and their kids, if they have seen the originals, probably think their lame because of the crappy FX as compared to modern movies for "the kids" today.
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So a ...um....friend of a friend (sounds like BS already doesn't it?) saw Indy 4. I've kown this person for over 10 years. Older person. Loved Raiders and liked the other two somewhat as well. This person's review is basically that the movie is really good. The time flies by. Can't wait to see it again (hardly ever sees movies more than once). Would have changed a thing or two here and there. Blanchet is very good. Shia is very good. Its just really fun and "better than the last ones" not sure if that means TOD and LC or not. Other person who saw it also said the same thing, but this one know it all person said he didn't really like it, but LOVED Speed Racer....
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pooethic is a troll who's been here forever. I normally don't engage him but got bored and decided to poke him with a spoon. The guy is really a non-entity. Google his username and in virtually every talkback he partakes in, he'll jump in and say something vaguely obnoxious and toothless and be met with a wall of silence. Considering that this is AICN, where even a mild provocation will mostly result in a torrent of verbal abuse and sometimes threats of sexual violence, that's really saying something about how much of a failure this guy is.
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The audience for the movie doesn't exist anymore. The 7 - 13 year old kids who loved it in the 80s are a bunch of cynical adults now, and the kids of today are used to Michael Bay-action and CG animated cartoons. (Seriously, I sat and watched ROTLA with some 12 year olds recently and they were annoyed by the fact that Indy's punches don't seem to connect with the bad guys' faces.)
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What is this "Harry Steele thread with Merriman" you speak of?
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I saw the whip it good link and thought that it would be really funny, if "Give me back my family" and the brothers Jew have Memorial sized weekend openeing. That in the following TV spots that play that song with clips of indy whipping shit, showing peoples reactions and showing the box office gross with Divo playing over it all. You know how they used to do for movies that do well, they don't do those types of tv-spots anymore. That would be great.
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Yes, I know what you mean. Most of the time i just 'walk away' but sometomes the level of stupidity is so great that one can not help but to respond. I found myself doing so - half-heartedly, with Morbid and his justifying of the Iraq war. He does not have the brain power to be really offensive, or back it up - and I say that without rancor, but still I was bored that day and so I took the bait. It is pointless with people like him though, because they really do not have the capacity to see beyond a narrow minded point of view.
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I may be a cynical adult, but I'm still an Indy fan and I've already bought a couple tix for the show. And my kids are comin' with me to one of those showings. They love the Raiders' series. I think if kids today don't "get" Raiders, it says more about the kid than the movie, which EVERYONE knows is great. Even Nazis.
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He was basing the negative reviews as "fact" that Indy was going to suck.
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Seriously. Has that guy ever done anything in Talkback besides call people cunts and threaten to shit down their throats? Talk about your waste of bandwidth.He reminds of that once loser-troll, harrysuxafatone. That guy did the exact same thing until he walked straight into the Ban Hammer. And it was a glorious site to behold.
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What does thy Book of Burt say about pathetic douchebags like, po?I humbly await your wisdom, guidance, and action.
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I can't speak to how the kids of today will react to a new Indy movie, but I'm with Abom & Orcus above, I'm gonna be seeing this one, without a doubt. And I'm really looking forward to this further adventure of Indy.
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A thousand pencils will rain down upon thy cretin poeticwarriorII, and stab thee into thy mouth with glee, teaching thy shitheel the error of his trolling ways. A call will go to the heavens, and a FLAMING LEG KICK will knock the drippy whore asunder, awakening thy shitheel from his trollish ways and converting him to a loyal servant of the Church of Chang.
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Basically, Lucas and Spielberg are "damned if they do, damned if they don't." Personally, I'm glad they gave Indy one last hurrah. Heck, I would have been happy if his movie adventures had never stopped after 1989.
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and deals with them at a time He sees fit.It's supposed to rain today...Burt's stache is angry with poeticwarriorII...
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...I see the truth of it. And I believe po will as well once he receives his first FLAMING LEG KICK to the face.I kneel before the Warciple's ancient and secret knowledge. Long may it spank po'warrior senseless, anon.
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I wonder if Dan Akroyd ever got that gin??
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I pop in here whenever I can, but I am always a little disappointed by the paltry number of threats of sexual violence I receive.Clearly, I am not sufficiently attractive to the AICN crowd.What, because I'm English I'm not good enough to be threatened with rape? For shame, Ain't It Cool friends. For shame!P.S. This is a good summer so far. Hopefully, Indy will do his part and not suck.
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I think kids of today will appreciate any well made, entertaining movie. Just like we did when we were kids. Yes, times change, tastes change, but the reason some movies made almost 80 years ago are still enjoyable today, is becuase they where well made. I truly beleive that if Indy IV is well made and entertaining, it will have no problem conencting.
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but before the greatness of the holy trinity and their message...We are the keepers of the divine knowledge, so sayeth our lords..Burt, Ash, and Warwick...amen.
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Frankie... For instance, say something like "Indy will kick TDK's ass and eat out it's mom's pussy for dinner, eat shit haters!" Or "The FF movies are very underrated, and if you can't see that you don't know fuck about what makes a good, fun movie. Fucking fanboys..."
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Now, gather thy Warciple brothers and give that idiot fucker what for.RIDE AND FEAR NO DARKNESS!!!
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How's that? I was going for a Gabriel Grey-ish vibe. I miss that guy. He was so hilariously angry.
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That will ignite a holy war!
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to incite anger in. The Hulk is an easy one, just choose a side: pro-Lee or anti-Lee. It really takes care of itself once you have chosen a side...
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he finds poeticwarriorII funny.
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The Church of Chang has faith that the gods of all that constitutes manliness (as embodied by the likes of such onscreen icons as Bruce Campbell, Tony Jai, Sean Connery, Charles Bronson, Fred Ward, Michael Gross, Fred Ward, Harrison Ford, and Tyrone Powell)will rain unholy vengeance upon all nonbelievers in as manifested in a maelstrom of sharpened No. 2 pencils and flaming leg kicks.
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He's THAT important to the good work of the Holy Trinity.....Jack Burton is our porkchop archangel, and goes where no one else will: to the bowels of evil where only trolls reside and whispers of spamming ring throughout one's ears...
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Count him once for his work in Tremors, and again for his work in Remo Williams + Timerider.
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in the Church of Chang, for his contributions in Tango and Cash, Snake Plissken, Jack Burton, Executive Decision and yes, Captain Ron. And the dude he played in "Dreamer." If ever you're in doubt about what a man would do in a given situation, it's time for a Kurt Russell movie night.
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"Velociraptors! Why did it have to be velociraptors?!"
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“We… are… going… to die!” THATS MY FAVORITE PART!..hilarious look on his face.
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and especially for his work in Big Trouble in Little China, The Thing, Escape from New York.
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I cannot and WILL NOT convert until Ace Hunter is canonized. Anything less is heresy, heresy!
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May 12, 2008 10:19:59 AM CDT
It's been years since I watched Big Trouble in Little China
by hawaiian organ donor
The way you guys have been going on about it lately, I'm going to have to rent it this week. I don't remember a single scene so it will be like watching it again for the first time.And Kurt Russell proved he's still relevant with Stuntman Mike.And for the people who keep saying Lucas and Senior Spielbergo are damned if they do, damned if they don't, please stop, because a child and a box of kittens somewhere in the world dies every time such inane utterances are spoken.
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ACE HUNTER!! Deeds not words! And a pastel purple headband!
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My son is only 4, and he is totally digging on Indy right now, thanks to his geeky dad. He won't be seeing Indy 4 until it's on video (and with his parents fast-forwarding through the really violent parts), but we will be taking him to Disney World this winter. I can't wait for him to see Indy "live and in person" at the stunt show.
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My 4-year old son calls my Cleveland Indians golf hat the "Indy hat." The other day he insisted a cut him a piece of kite string about four feet long. Not knowing why he wanted it, I did. Then he ran around the house swinging the string like a whip, saying he was Indiana Jones. Sigh...I'm so proud.
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Buckeroo banzai!
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that movie is pure action si-fi cheese glory
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for conversion. And we just may have to accept that Kurt Russell is, in fact, God.
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honestly.
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I have no problem with accepting Ace Hunter with open arms into the Church of Chang.While sadly I have never witnessed this remarkable champion of good, he certainly seems to stand up next to the Chang grading system. I shall receive 30 FLAMING LEG KICKS for my lack of knowledge in this matter..
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Duly noted.
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I would second his (aka Peter Weller - Robocop) nomination. His inclusion could be the point of conversion for me. Because with the combined knowledge, wisdom, and power of the Church of Chang AND the Banzai Institute...peace, justice, and ass-kickery would truly reign!Hail, my fellow Blue Blaze Irregulars!
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man what a fun movie that was...
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Peter Weller, has long been over-looked for his contributions to the canon.
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fred ward was awesome in miami blues. kurt russel awesome in anything, i enjoyed breakdown.
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it looks like he finally passed out, what a joke. Wow dude you have the dirtiest fastest retorts, you must be so proud. I'm gonna do yoga right now so I can learn to felate myself, and practice over and over till I can suck your dick better than any man ever has!! cause baby you are on fire and I want some of that fire juice. GIVE IT TO ME BITCH!!!!
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Is that you, Braffed? EVERYONE knows Spidey 2 is better than 3. People may disagree on just how great (or not) 2 is, but EVERYONE knows it tops 3.
Pillow, yeah Barry Bostwick in a form-fitting gold lame jumpsuit with feathered hair, a purple headband, and Kenny Loggins beard. On a flying motorcycle with machine guns and missiles! Plus, whenever he makes a point to a chick, he KISSES HIS THUMB and holds it out to her. Megaforce may be so bad it's good, but there is no refuting the greatness that is ACE HUNTER, and no dispute that he knows how to keep his ladies in line. -
"Decepticons! Why did it have to be Decepticons?!"
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huge bag of burning pit bull cum. What I mean to say is that he is the bag, and his rants and ideas are the fore spoken "burning pit bull cum".
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It always accepts valid entries into its halls. Peter Weller is most definitely a case where the Holy Trinity smiles upon him.See, where like the Hall of Fames, except cooler and our members can wipe them out with a single thought.
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May 12, 2008 11:26:35 AM CDT
I just cannot look at Barry B and not throw toast at screen
by toadkillerdog
Or hot dogs either.
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"A rap song. Why'd it have to be a rap song...with a drum sample from 'Jamie's Crying?'"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eHJlTgp-do&feature=related
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Spidey 2 and 3. Numero tres had way too many WTF moments in it. And one cannot say that it was more "fun" than two, cause it was most definitely not.
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for Robocop if not Buckaroo. And his cool asshole villain in the movie "First Born."
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I'm hungry, time to eat!
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The enlightenment of the COC is truly a wonder to behold.
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May 12, 2008 11:36:38 AM CDT
"It's the pelvic thrust - that really drives em insaaaaane"
by toadkillerdog
Lets do the time warp - agaiiin!
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Lee Marvin, Bill Holden, Steve McQueen...? I thought a while back that these "mens-men" icons (you can add Charles Bronson and Clint to the mix) of the '60s and '70s have no equivalent in todays films. Guys that look like they've been around the block and would beat the snot out of you if you tried to bullshit them.Harrison Ford, as much as I've enjoyed his performances over the years, doesn't to me, seem to fit that description. Of course, Ford never really played the "tough guy" role, more of the everyman forced to action. Maybe someone like Tommy Lee Jones..
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to all members:1) Ability to wage pencil jihad at a moment's notice on any infidels and shitheels. 2) Gives you x-ray vision. 3)You give off more of a manliness stench. (big hit with the ladies, which leads us too...)4) Hear the lamentation of the women.
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"Of Unknown Origin." Watch a well to do yuppie banker go insane as a giant RAT makes a mess of his townhouse and his life.
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4 things.
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sometimes the lamenting "clucking of the tongues" gets old, and it's time for them to give us some sugar
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I don't know how Harrison could describe being dragged behind a truck as "another useless experience." Frankly, that's a valuable life skill I've called upon on many a harrowing occasion
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economic times. Some may call that freeloading or crazy.I call it looking out for the environment.
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Adding the ability not to do math actually takes the count up to five things.
Math Major Stan -
Maybe I should quantify that by saying that the CoC enriches everyone's lives (even non-members), and the number of things that the CoC provides to the world, nay, life itself, can never have a number associated with it.
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For example, single-handily I have declared pencil jihad on many of my fellow employees and our auditing firm. To date, I have impaled 17 employees and 3 auditors with my #2 pencil. That's keeping the unemployment rate down, increasing pencil production, and keeping funeral homes busy. Good for the overall economy.
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You are correct about the lack of a 'Man's Man' in film today. Nothing to really compare with the action starts of the early sixties through mid 70's.
Arnold, Willis, Stallone, Ford, never really took on that mantle -even when their respective movies kicked ass. Some of that may be simply due to the previous generation having fought in and survived WWII -this added a hardened lustre to their performances. But before we lament that no more such stars exist,look at McQueen. In his early work, he was not what you would call a Man's man, he was a teen rebel -of a sort. He grew into the role, and there very well may be actors now, who will fit that mold. -
SPOILERs don't look if you don't want to see an image from the new movie. SPOILERs
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You too can initiate pencil jihad in the confines of your own office!
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out of today's actors. I mean, who qualifies as a young actor who fits the "action" star category? Statham? I don't think of him as a bad ass though, and I really think it's because of the type of action movies that are typically made now. Don't get me wrong, I like him, but I just don't get that "bad-ass" feeling with him. Damon? No way, and I love the Bourne movies.Affleck? Um, next...Daniel Craig? Nah, no proven track record, though I love his take on Bond.Who could possibly take up the mantle?
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Shit, no--I'm just kidding.
Downey was good in Iron Man. I could see Matthew Fox doing some action shit. Heck, if they'd give me a call, I'm in as well. As a card-carrying member of the CoC, I am administering pencilpocalypse at any given moment anyways. -
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Shakedown, bitches! With Sam fucking Elliott!
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The first thing I would do is look at the current crop of movie villains - always a source of bad assness. I need to rack the brainpan for some though.
As for the current crop of good guys who can 'make the leap', in no particular order:
Damon
Pitt (once his looks fade)
Gyllenhall
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Elliot and Weller rocked in that one!
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with a few more years under his belt, and a few more lines to crease his face, I could see Christian Bale. Its a sense of gravitas that that earlier generation had, and I could see Bale inheriting that.
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pretty-pretty, instead of ugly-pretty. No one could accuse Lee Marvin or Charles Bronson of being a male model type. Unless they wanted to gargle with their teeth.
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pwned
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and Jon Heder will be the new Harrison Ford.
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running full force toward camera in slow motion......ohh yeaaaaaaaa
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The mantle - in a few years. Just like all of the ones I mentioned on my list.
As for Damon - I realize that will be a stretch - but consider -he totally kicked ass as Bourne, and no one saw that coming. The older he got, the more believable he seemed. Give him a few more roles - and years, and he may very well assume the mantle. But my real money is on a the dark horse Gyllenhal. -
I truly beleive you must look at the anti-hero's and or villains to find who may emerge as the next big 'mans man.'
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is bullshit. i loved this film as a kid, it still stands well today. no more parachute. monkeybrains. kali ma.. they took our siblings! c'mon so many great scene, such a great film. there is a snobish tendency to follow the crowd and say it was pants. bt having watched this the other day, i can still confirm its a fucking great film
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will feature all the pitfalls of the first Raiders movie, starting with the "give me the whip" jump over the chasm, and the boulder dash for life and limb.
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Which is good and bad. For every enjoyably cheesy Arnold film of the eighties there were plenty of terrible knockoffs. These days most actors can't sustain a career on only action vehicles. I also don't think most want to. They want to do the big blockbuster in between their artistic projects. Stratham is the closest we've got to an action star and most of those films are pretty bad. I also agree with whoever mentioned that too many actors these days are pretty boys. If I'm not mistaken Clint Eastwood made Spaghetti Westerns because no one in Hollywood would hire because of his looks. It would have been a shame to lose Eastwood as an actor.
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and I was struck by how well they handled the relationship between Indy and Short Round. I loved the scene when they're talking to the village elder and Short Round is mimicking Indy's mannerisms. I also love how Indy doesn't leave the temple trap because he realizes he would have to leave Short Round in the trap alone. There are a bunch of little moments throughout the film that make the relationship between the two touching without being sappy. It's a wonderful example of show don't tell.
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May 12, 2008 1:00:46 PM CDT
Errol Flynn proved that you can be a pretty boy but still Manly
by toadkillerdog
That is why I think Pitt has a chance to wear the mantle - for a little while at least.
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The Holy Trinity smiles upon thee with great satisfaction! Damn, now I know what the X-files 2 title refers to: 2for2true!!!
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in 2true? YES. Yes you do.
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I love Sammy getting on the plane's wheel...right? With Petey driving the car...
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Thanks for the link. Don't know how I missed that 2true post. I see pillow witnessed the blessed event of the "Denouncement of the Gayheads." Glorious!
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I'm not sure I would call him a man's man, but he did of course play the hero part well. I don't know if I could include him in the above group. It's not like when I would see him I would think "he could kick someone's ass just by staring at them. The stare cannot be underestimated in its importance of kickassery.
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May 12, 2008 1:13:16 PM CDT
2for2true golden nugget for all warciples and such...
by just pillow talk
"Goddam Hollywood turd burglars...
Would have loved to have been in the room when this douchefest was pitched... "See, it's all about a high school coach...WITH A MASSIVE, OH GOD, STOP ME FROM GOOIN'MYSELF, HUGE, FREAKIN' SCHLONG, AND, AND, AND well, thassit. Whaddya think?" Hey 'BO - We don't want any more shitty sex shows. Give us quality drama, like Carnivale, 6 feet Under, Deadwood, and Sopranos. Put down the blow, get your collective gayheads outta the closet and quit fuckin' off. That is all." -
that memories-of-murder is back. That's who I saw post before Doc..Jarv will be sooooooo happy.
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I imagined what it would be like if he and Queefer where to share the same space at the same time.
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Flynn was the very first 'bad boy' of cinema. His real life adventures -before during and sadly after, his career, made him the kind of man that men of his generation wanted to be. ' In like Flynn' was coined because of his sexual prowess. Wayne may have been the Manly man of the 40's, but Flynn carved out his own niche.
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No problem man. And the very fact that you would remember to say thank you for a week old post, goes to show the type of person you are, and why I am proud to call you a 'brother-in-arms.'
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We have hypothesized on the outcome of appearances by 2for2true and Queefer Bukkake, and, as you say, the impact is frightful to say the least. One would think the universe would be sucked unto itself and existence, as we know it, would cease to be.And I hear ya on the Flynn thing, but when I look at him, I just don't get than manly vibe, regardless of his real life escapades.
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as wishing you well on your next deployment. As those sane talkbackers (I'm borderline) know, your presence is always welcomed in any thread.Now since we've been gushing appreciation, etc in your direction....Mets took two outta three baby! (hadn't seen you in a bit to mention that)
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Which thread is that?
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Its Indy, Its Nostalgia. It's something the whole family can watch. You know you're not going to get any gratuitous sex and violence. It's wholesome clean fun. and its fucking ford, Lucas and Spielberg. there's a long enough gap that people remember how good the old films are and will want to see this new adventure.
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damn man your to easy ..calm yourself down. you ask for an answer to who i am and how i know labeouf and i gave it to you . not asking your pathetic ass to believe me cause i really can give a shit . i just find it funny that between your shifts at mc'ds cleaning the shitters that you come on here trying to talk your big shit . your just another punk kid thats got no class or self respect . even if i was fucking a fatty it'd be a hell of a lot better than what you could get . i know your spending your evenings in random public mens restrooms tapping your foot to give the signal only to go home with a black eye and a gaped rectum . donkey punches daily gotta suck huh? thats alright keep taking it out on here . we all think your a joke anyway and i'm pretty sure thats how everyone else in your life views you too . oh yeah genius let me just go ahead and post my personal info up on here . why don't you go mix yourself up some koolaid and rat poison and do the world a huge favor . i'll be waiting for your oh so poetic response you fucking asshat .
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testicle wart! How ya been cunt? I see you couldn't resist popping your head out of your ass long enough to make a stupid retort. Now open wide so I can shit down your neck.
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This is the fuckin review im gonna believe. Can't believe all the geeks ragging on this movie. From day 1 of this film being announced i knew there would be negative reviews from previews..sure as egss are eggs.. that was gonna happen. Im just pissed so many are jumping on the bandwagon..ok..so i havent seen it myself yet but ive seen enough from the trailers and tv spots and stuff ive read that this will be a fun adventure. People have missed the point with the trailers completely..think moriarty or someone else on here was dissing the trailers coz of the pace issues and so on..what people forget is that spielberg has treated this film differently from any other film put out there as he doesnt want to give anything away about the plot/story,so the trailers dont have a linear structure like most others do. Secondly..for all those Lucas haters out there..THIS IS A STEVEN SPIELBERG MOVIE ! ..lucas did not direct this or write the script and apart from the brief story outline originally conceived by said beard, had NO CREATIVE INPUT in this thing whatsoever!!!. If Lucas was directing this from his own script..then sure id be worried too but i have total faith that we are going to see one last fun adventure for indy.
Im in my mid 30's,so i can remember when last crusade came out in 89 and was originally disappointed with it amongst other friends of mine who felt the same way too..of course over the yrs ive grown to love it more and more and i suspect it will be the same with this new one.
Just give this movie a chance..Lucas got one thing spot on when he said peoples anticipations about KOTCS was way over the top..if you'd have waited say 20 yrs for LOTR "ROTK" to have come out after the first two,people would have knocked that as well.
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but it defies the laws of physics. The truck hood would be crushed, damaging the engine and bringing the vehicle to a stop.
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with the assorted words misspelled, and the phrase "perceived similiaritudes ", but it does seems rather low key. And of course, the lack of Bay bashing...
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congratulations on earning yourself a ticket on the twat train asshole. And tell me something, couldn't you come up with something better than burning pitbull cum or was that a strain on the brown matter you've got stuffed between those ears? Really, burning pitbull cum?? That's it? I also like how you two douche bags wait until I leave for a while to start coming in here and yammering on about how you like people to shit down your neck and you're a big fan of sucking your own cock. My advice is don't waste money on the Yoga lessons becuase 1. You're already capable of sticking your head in your ass and 2 I know you're trying really hard to impress me but there's not a chance in hell you're getting within 10 miles of my cacker you cum catching queer bait. But thank you for being a loyal fan!!!! If you'd like to be a PWII fan drop an email to eatshit@yourealoser.com. Be patient though, there's quite a few in line.
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Xiphos is going back to Iraq. I believe at the end of this month.
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Xi, are you heading back to Afghanistan or somewhere else?And I see that in the scriptgirl thread (yes, she does have a nice rack, particularly the 4/25/08 report..more of those shirts please), mirajeff lost his black box. Now THAT'S funny!poeticwarriorII, stop trying to do the violent thing. You do not even approach the creativity of Queefer Bukkake or 2for2true. Bow now before your superiors.
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He may be easing back to his 'old' self, pacing himself before he becomes the annoying twat we know.
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is pretty funny. The cloud of blood that comes out upon impact is genius.
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Wow, that's a real funny website name you came up with poeticwarrior. It's a wonder you have time to post here since you must deal with so many responses on your website.
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just hopped the twat train to fuck you town!! Who asked you shit bag? I don't recall directing one word to you cunty, yet you just can't help yourself can you? You're effeminate fingers just had to tap away your little bitchy shit filled response right??? You fucking jerk-off.
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I didn't say it wasn't funny--it is, and I like it. I was just nitpicking, like a geek would. Take for instance those truck headlights. You wouldn't see those boxy lights on a 1950s truck. But I do dig the mist of blood.
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...and he's proving my point in its entirety. Way to go, po'. You are just as predictable as you are worthless and impotent.
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with g-9000 tell him I said hello will you. I'm sure he'll be hurt if he thinks I don't care. That'll give you an opening so you can go over and practice the correct stroke speed with each other! I know... you can thank me later JTP.
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...that's definitely him. The handle is the same. And yes, Lost Jarv is going to lose his muthafuckin' mind!
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arguing with you at all. I knew you thought it was funny or you wouldn't have bothered posting about it.
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I'm surprised you can breathe with all that shit in your mouth! Congratulations buddy, WAY. TO. GO! I know you've been working on your retorts lately, and I applaud you, really I do, but do try a little harder will you? You're getting boring.
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Though you're really infringing on messi, since he throws around cunt more than anyone else. But you've really got to go with a little bit more of variety in your foaming-at-the-mouth bit. The "twat train" just isn't cutting it.
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That is disturbing....
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Lst I heard he was hitting the pub. Must be on one helluva bender!
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What about Hugh Jackman, Clive Owen, Colin Farrell, Viggo Mortensen, Josh Brolin, Javier Bardem, Karl Urban, Josh Lucas or Benicio Del Toro? I think any one of these guys is one role away from being the guy who steals your wife before breakfast, beats up a boxcar full of ninjas, jumps from the airlock of an exploding space shuttle and lands feet first on the White House lawn, karate chops his way through an army of Secret Service agents en route to bitch slapping the President and is on a beach in Southern France by dinnertime getting your wife to bark like a dog and other stuff she hasn't done to you since you put that two months salary rock on her finger.
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cunt. You can't seem to ignore it so it obviously is making a dent in that bucket of pig vomit you try to call a skull. I understand though, you're like the proverbial bitch that can't leave her bf that beats her. No matter how hard you try you know way down deep inside you deserve it, you want it, you need it. You ask what my fascination is with shit? Well shit for brains, perhaps you could try reading a little more and sucking Mr.NG a little less you incredible cunty. Or are you just an illiterate fuck stain? Next time you think about picking up the keyboard at least try typing something with a little more than I know you are what am i will you fuck wad? Either that or forget it and continue smearing your face with shit and flinging poo at the neighborhood kids who aren't retarded.
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Rickey knew a guy like that back in college. The guy liked to poop on the bathroom floor and refused to own up to it. Weird dude. Maybe it's poeticwarriorII.
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Rickey knew a guy like that back in college. The guy liked to poop on the bathroom floor and refused to own up to it. Weird dude. Maybe it's poeticwarriorII.
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Josh Brolin is the only one out of that entire list who has the possibility of being anything more than a faded star. The rest of those guys have had their chance and they never gained traction.
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Speaking of boring...ZZZzzzZZZFYI - you need to look up the meaning of the word "retort" and how it doesn't apply to my post @ 09:09:15 AM.Thanks for your worthless rejoinder all the same. Keep dancing, fucktart.
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Funny post, dude. Now about your picks:
Jackman - I like him, and he is great as Wolverine. Compares to Eastwood - at least faciallly. But he seems more intent on expanding his acting chops, and not doing straight up actioners.
Owen - Great tough guy actor, he could make the leap but will he get the opportunity? Maybe.
Farrell? - Nope.
Viggo - Yes. He could do it, but he is getting old. It will have to be very soon, or it will be too late.
Brolin - late bloomer. But I have not seen enough if him to have a true opinion. Intrigung though.
Bardem - I think he is more interested in character than action.
Urban - No clue.
Lucas - I do not see it.
Del Toro -As an Aging badass - yes.
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bwahahahahahahahahahaah... oh man wait you're killing me.... no wait.... oh man a guy that shit on the floor of the bathroom... bwahahhahaahaha..... ok I'm getting control now.....bwahahahahahaah.... maybe that's me... bwaaahaaahahah...... comedic genius folks!!!!!!! What a cunt.
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aging bad asses, but I'm not a fan of Owen being a bad ass, nor Jackman. I think they're pretty damn good, but like Toad said with Jackman, more with expanding their acting chops.
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way to go little buddy, worthless and devoid of meaning but you're chugging away at both JPT's cock and typing worthless shit heel talkback posts. Way to multi-task cunt!!! Are you enjoying the gentle swaying of the twat train?
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when you are walking down the street, or are you a scared little bastard who has to type random violent threats to people you don't even know? Did you get beaten a lot at school when you were growing up? And the nonsense you type doesn't qualify as "picking up the keyboard".
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Yes, you are po'warriorII. And you continue to berate yourself in favor of proving my earier point. Thank you!!!Now, dance some more, fucktart.
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...because as you so subtlely point out, only the most vulgar & mean spirited messages qualify as funny. How's that working out for you so far?
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Here's my Indy review. I'll make this quick maybe.
First of all, after reading some of the other reviews, I found myself wondering if they were legit or not. I am a huge fan of Raiders, really enjoyed Last Crusade, but don't enjoy TOD like I did when I was younger (though the scene where Indy knocks the baddie out and sends him sliding in the gravel get me everytime) Anyway, I was pretty good about avoiding spoilers, figuring I'd have a chance to see the film early anyway. So, as far as verifying the other reviews, well I just couldn't be sure. Come to think of it, even after seeing it, I still can't be sure, but all I can say I have strong doubts as I'm sure some will have about my own review. What I won't do I post spoilers here to convince you. I went in spoiler free and I think they may have a lot to do with my opinion of the film:
What is that opinion? Well, I left the theater excited at the thought that I just watched the best Indy movie since Raiders. Yes, it is that good. In fact it is very good. Is it perfect? No, but then I don't think Raiders is a perfect film either (though its flaws are quite minor). TOD and LC have bigger problems here and there, but remain great regardless and more than worthy follow ups to Raiders. So, yes, considering all of this KOTCS fits nice and snug after Raiders.
Let's start with the bad news. There are some one liners that don't quite work like they should. Second, the links to the other movies (besides Marion) could have been handled better. I'm glad that they're there, but I didn't get the same smile on my face as I did with the Ark in LC. Suffice to say there are similar thinks at work here (very similar in fact). Also, the climax of the film will split fans and viewers right down the middle. It happened to work for me, but may piss off others. Those afraid that the alien angle would diminish the magic of the other films - don't worry. It's actually referenced somewhat and handled quite well.
Okay, now the good stuff. Ford has en energy on screen that I haven't seen in a decade or more. The trailers are edited quite poorly especially with the dialog, but in the film it works for the most part (minus the few one-liners mentioned above). Also, I read one review saying there was a major death and that is not true. It's not a minor death either, but it does have a nice impact considering how well the character worked in this universe. Shia is not the character you think he is in the trailers. He does a great job in this and those who disagree even after seeing the film will at least love the trick in the end. I won't spoil it, but suffice to say there will be sighs of relief and big smiles in the audience. Let's just say it invlves "torches". Spalko is really odd here and though it took a few minutes to get used her, I ended up enjoying this villain more than any other (minus Belloq of course).
What else. The action has a nice weight to it. The stunts are amazing. The set pieces (there are many) are clever and well thought out. The critter scene (big ants and another surprise!) is creepy and, yet again, second only to Raiders. Blows the socks of the rats in LC. The campus chase was very fun and even gives a nod to Marcus along the way. Most of all, the reunion of Indy and Marion was perfect. This is the scene I had been waiting for and it just hits the damn mark dead on. As does the relationship between Indy and Mutt. It reminded of LC for obvious reasons, but takes a different angle that adds to the whole package - even the action. The last review I read said it better than I could and was spot on. Also, let me say that Hurt and Broadbent get the job done well also. I was worried Hurt's character would try to be to eccentric and goofy, but I was pleasently surprised. Broadbent does pretty much play Marcus, but fits in as well as he could.
Wow I am really rambling here. In the end I expect this will make a decent dollar (to say the least) and the reviews will be around 85% positive, which is better than the other two sequels. Again, I can't say that the other reviews weren't legit. Hell, maybe the positive ones are fake and the bad ones are real. What I can say is do yourselves a favor and don't read too many spoilers before hand. You have less than 12 days left to wait and I know first hand that going in with barely a clue as to what I would see paid off big. Oh and I forgot about the score - great as well, but you can go to amazon and see that for yourselves.
So Raiders remains the king (a 10). Skull is second (a solid 9). Then LC (8.5) and TOD (8) pulling up the rear. Tonally I'd say a mix of them all.
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wow pwank these older guys are really making you look like the cumstain you are . you do remind me of those little organ grinder monkeys ...dancing and posturing tough ...i always wanted to kick one of those fuckers . anyways man wheres the love ? you got me on here hooked like the coke i snorted off your mom and sister back before i made them go down on each other .
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thanks for the good review man . stoked to finally see it play out and yeah the stunts are amazing .
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ROTS was out way before the CD I seem to remember.
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have I threatened cunt?... right nobody, illiteracy is a bad thing dumb ass. Oh, and eat shit shit nugget.
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is a classic. Perhaps this guy doesn't know what in the hell he's talking about?
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God your dumb.
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you cunts can't seem to get enough of it, so yeah, I'd say it's doing exactly what it's meant to do. If it wasn't you'd go back to jacking off and throwing your body fluids at innocent onlookers. MY FANS!!!!
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"We are going to die". There's no need for that. I'm not even sure what the fuck he's trying to say? How did he want Ford to say it?
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"We are going to die". There's no need for that. I'm not even sure what the fuck he's trying to say? How did he want Ford to say it?
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Not sure if anyone has posted it, but it's screening at Mann's Chinese Theater on Wednesday, May 14. The link: http://www.theraider.net/news/fullstory_miscellaneous.php?id=763
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so are your ass eating train partners here. You can't get enough and you also make shit up that makes no sense and then you sit around patting yourselves on the back like the useless cunts you are when you've done absolutely nothing. You twats are like a microcosm of Congress. A collection of old worn out, easily manipulated diseased old assholes who stand around and clap at the slightest accomplishment. But I digress, you've gone and worn yourself out earlier trying to think of something to type. Way to go Hollywood, way to go! MY FANS!!!
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I don't post much. I've lurked on here for years. Trying to read the posts for this particular talk back, I'm amazed at some of the writings of a few posters, most noteably, PoeticWarriorII. It just makes me wonder if we met him in RL, on the street, and started a conversation with him, would be be littering the discussion with cuss words and digusting references to body parts. Or would he be the shy type that barely speaks, and only gets to come out of his shell through the anonymity of Talkback. Makes you wonder. I digress.
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looking for. Nor do I understand his apparent lack of humor. Most people think it's pretty damn classic IJ. I don't think I've EVER heard anyone complain about that before. Very Strange.
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don't let the twat train leave you behind you shit eating testicle wart. You're so fucking dumb I'm surprised your mother didn't smother you as a child with one of her fat droopy tits. It's called literacy asshole, try reading a few posts before you open your shit hole next time fucktard. I'm glad I've got a new fan though. They just keep piling up. MY FANS!!!
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your shell, it's ok. We'll get t40 to rub out your sore hurting twat! Everything was going so well to. :(
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cause your shit is weak pwank . really it is, no imagination other than some of the bad words you find on the cover of daddy's porn tapes . let me know where i can send my fan mail money so i can show up and plant my size 10 boot in your ass . i'm sure you won't feel much as your used to inserting random objects up there .ain't you late for that 10 man cum slam you were talking about earlier ...powarrior gotta eat . enjoy making your cash the hard way ho .
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You're making my case for me. I don't even have to respond. I bet if we met you in RL, you'd be at a loss of words and could only mumble "yes" or "no". I'm sure dating for you is a lot of fun. You sound good to the ladies online, but when they meet you, all you do is nod and say "do you like star trek or star wars better?"
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you keep feeling your pride and self-esteem fall every time you read something hence your impulse to type a reply. You can sit and say it's weak or whatever. I really don't care because in the end, your actions speak louder than your words ever could. I'm still waiting on you to post your shit Hollywood. You're the one that's so big and bad, so post it up cunt. You're old lady was telling me how she wanted the corn on the cob through a tennis racket treatment the next time I was out tere anyway. Poor Holllywood, his dreams were always bigger than his reality.
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Until we hit 1,000 total so don't stop now, fellas. Pull every insult out of your bag and let's derail this TB to the point we'll need hip waders to walk through this sewage.
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Cunts who can't think of anything but yet believe reposting the same tepid shit they've posted before somehow makes it more relevant really piss me off. Fuck you ST you useless shit eating cunt. Come back when you've got something more creative shit for brains. Either that or get back to your guidance counselor job and molest some more children.
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We all have a different experience watching the films, which is why I don't care if every single word written about KOTCS is shit, I will still go, have my own experience and form my own opinion. Some of you have read 'Death Of The Author' right?
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talkback that should be very easy to do. MY ADORING FANS!!!!
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this is a job for the Cunt Brigade!!! You know you can't quit me yet!!! I've got better fans than this!!!
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oh shit , your hurting my self esteem pwank ...please stop ...no ! all i want to know is if you like Indy or not. if so can i count you in on buying it on dvd to help with that nice residual check i'll be getting next year . then i can laugh all the way to the bank and worry about my big dreams and how you crushed them cause you think i'm lying . you in ..good . by the way my old lady could kick your scrawny little ass so i'd get to save myself from getting your teeth embeded in my knuckles . your right though i am bad .
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"We are going to die" - great line from Temple of Doom.
Poetic: I'm spouting the same stuff over and over? Have you looked back at any of your posts? All you do is pull out your MadLibs and create new comebacks that say the same thing.
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on here i am sorry if i keep entertaining our buddy pwank . not one for tb's but when i saw this guy talking smack i had to join in the fun . so please enjoy all the goodness that indy fans deserve sans this little turd .
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it's called pride, and it's fucking with you. Pride never helps, it only hurts!! BWahahaahhaahahah, poor Hollywood, he thinks he was in IJ. Unless... TheQueef, is that you? Or have your meds worn off and you just think you're TheQueefer? By the way, point proved. I knew you wouldn't let me down Hollywood. I knew it!
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are the last people on the face of the earth I would ever worry about impressing you old worn out douche bag.
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play the poor tortured soul now. Oh you're so sorry for not being able to control yourself to the point you impulsively continue to look like a fool. Poor you, you're such an abused little cunt. Is you're fat ass old lady repulsed by how much of a pussy you are or do you keep her coked up so she doesn't notice how much of a loser you are?
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Since you are on here morning, noon, and night, you must feel some affection towards the people of Talkback? You must want to feel loved in some capacity.
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what point did you prove boss ? and its not a matter of thinking ,its about knowing ...you just can't except that . i know its tough to think that only dorks like you come on here but its just not true . most of the folks come here to see how some people feel about a project . so keep living in that little box and denying what you really know is true . but i do like the name hollywood so thanks for that . you are a funny little shit if it makes you feel better though .
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May 12, 2008 4:21:59 PM CDT
STLost, while I know your job as a guidance counselor...
by poeticwarriorii
is boring and leaves you with little inner satisfaction, save for all the children you molest, but coming on here trying to "analyze" me is probably not the way you wanna go champ. Nice try though cunt. However, since you can't help but continue typing responses I can safely say you certainly are enjoying the attention Ace. This is real easy for you dumb asses, ignore me and I'll go away. But you can't, your simple minds won't allow it. You just can't quit me. This has turned into an interesting experiment. Next...
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you would know exactly what you just stepped into. But since you're the Forrest Gump type I didn't expect you to "get it". You are threatening physical violence over the internet, you're a fucking fool. A cunt and a fool. That's a great combo to be dumb ass. You just can't stop can you? You have absolutely no control over what you do, do you?
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Since I've been lurking at AICN since it's inception, and have now only recently registered to join in on discussions, I certainly do not need any attention. I'm afraid that honor is all yours. Who will get more attention, a post talking about the actual topic on hand, or someone like you, posting insults, off-topic digressions and just general immaturity.
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bwahahahahahahahhah... oh man pwank..... bwahahahahaha.... that is just too funny Hollywood. Too funny, shit you oughta be in movies Hollywood.
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Is it starting to throb like your balls do when the children run out to play at lunch time? You'll be back, even when you know what to do, you just can't stop. You love the attention, no matter what kind it is don't you you old fuck?
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Hallelujah, that guy was creeping me out.
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thanks man glad you found that funny . your right man i oughta be in movies ...oh wait i already am . thats just gotta be fucking with you to . its alright just keep dishing out the hate my little man . my threats to you are done , you've wore me out kinda like when me and your girl get toghether . i know your a chicken shit little bitch and that is satisfaction enough .
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This TB is now offically dead.
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you're just like a less creepy STLost. I would like to think you're done, and thank GOD ST is, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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is ian mcdiarmand in it?
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You betrayed Shiitake! Hold onto your portobellos!!
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"an the thuggees will be all powerful!!!"
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Hated movies DO NOT continue to make money. And if you are one of those who hated TPM and AOTC and then crossed your fingers in hopes of the third being "good" then fuck off and die. Seriously, only an abusive girlfriend/wife is dumber than you. That logic makes about as much sense as going to "Speed Racer" by choice or watching that Moriarty episode of "Masters of Horror."
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It's like me saying "Remember TOD? That was awesome except for when Short Round said 'Holy Smoke! Crash landing!'. He CLEARLY didn't understand his character"
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Cause of death? po'warriorII.ZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZ...
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That's a negative. Unless I just didn't notice him...
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Holy shit this is the best one so far!
http://tinyurl.com/62zj6l
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No Narnia avatar or did I miss that one? If I didn't, thanks for not doing one. Seriously. I don't like it when my movies feel and act like clips from Final Fantasy games.
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TLC starts off with some guy whose not Ford gaining all the indy attributes in an evening's worth (scar, whip, fear of snakes) in an evening's worth. Meanwhile TOD begins as a musical, Bogart meets James Bond looking Indy in white tux with red flower like Bond in Goldfinger's opening, a fight in th club, chase through Shanghai, into an airplane with a feathery breather and sledding down to India.
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In TLC he looks pissy-faced and is awfully angry and annoyed at everything around him. And his "DAAD DAAAAAAAD" is another one Spielberg's "why did daddy leave me" pictures.
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They decide to have Connery, because he's James Bond, the father of Indiana Jones right?!! Except they go 180 on James Bond, confident, suave, badass, NOPE, hey let's make him a whiny doofus annoying old man. GREAT IDEA! NOW LETS NURTURE OUR BEARDS SOMEMORE. Short Round on the other hand, is probably the most lovable child sidekick in movie history. So a true rarity how an asian kid sidekick can be more likable than Sean Connery? TOD mananged to pull it off.
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Indiana Jones goes to the Utah desert! A middle eastern desert that suspiciously looks like a US desert again! Nazi Germany! Lets setit at new york while were at it. oh right. Meanwhile TOD is in exotic rough country like Raiders before it, Shangai and India.
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forgot to add that to teh argument, Ford at his most primal, cynical badassness, starts out as a greedy asshole and ends as savior of children and lowly plebes. Good character growht.
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anyone remember who was in TLC? i dont either. some nazi bitch. real bland and forgettable. Meanwhile the whiny Cate Capshaw, well at least she had a personality and was something new instead of another Marion.
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TOD had indy enter a subterranean hell fighting the henchmen of kali mola ram is the scariest badguy of the trilogy. mule mean. meanwhile TLC had guys in fezes, a stupid greedy guy who makes Belloq look like Indy, better left to command AT-ATs then seek relics. And a nazi commander out of a mel brooks film.
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not a ufo.
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Kinda surprised I didn't get more feedback on my review posted above. Or at least the fact that I rated LC higher than TOD
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to be posting here lately.
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That's hilarious, you had a witty retort for each colorful layer of hurtful words I jammed up your culo. But seriously can I blow you? now cause your words are hotter than a front row ticket to Celine Dion. YEAH!
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Thanks for the review. I'm starting to let myself get excited about this one again. Can you tell me what the Paramount Logo dissolves into?
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Jones1899 Thank you so much. Nothing CAN STOP REAL REVIEWS
by proman1984
Nothing CAN STOP REAL REVIEWS. This movie will clean up.
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Flint's review already nailed it and was the best written in ages.
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Speed Racer was badass. Sorry, it was. Some reviews(just picking titles out of my head): Raiders was a masterpiece. Iron Man was near great. Spider-Man 2 was near great. The Indy sequels were badass. I, Robot was shit. Batman Begins was near great. Any other movies you'd like a review for? Heh.
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It's 1957, Sputnik's about to be launched, and somebody has to rub magic alien juice retrieved from South America all over it so it flies right.
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sometimes my PMS acts up and I get sensitive as well. No hard feelings, I rub people the wrong way sometimes. I'm an abrasive fucker, I can't help it.
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I aprreciate your felatious advances, really I do and I'm sure you're a handsome bastard. But really, I don't swing that way. t40 left his location on the 23rd for you though. If you live in Cali you're set big guy! You two love birds knock yourselves out!
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So let me get one thing clear, a friend of a friend saw it? Then you decide to some time later casually inform us you've seen it yourself?
You advise us to avoid spoilers, yet load your review to the rafters with spoilers?
Finally there's a duplicate posting on Indy fansite forum The Raven of exactly the same initial review you posted here.
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I'm ill for a few days and that obnoxious little hypocrite returns. Fucking hell, it took ages of TB kicking to get rid off the pustule in the first place.
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I thought he'd relaxed as well
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and I was thinking about peter weller for ages, just for getting high on insecticide. Such disregard for your own wellbeing is a good sign.
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Prossor: Great comparisons between TOD and TLC. Really shows why TOD is a lot better than TLC. Also, TOD is a not the average "search for the relic" film. While TLC retreads RAIDERS, TOD fleshes out a competely different adventure. And Indy going from "fortune and glory" to helping the village is awesome.
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Just because it is Harrison Ford playing Indy, with the Indy soundtrack and a whip and shit, thats it. The concept of an adventuring archeologist is genius, and thats what makes these films so good.
My fvaourites change order all the time, except Raider, it's alwasy no 1, I go on or off Temple and Crusade.
I loved the humour between Connery and Ford in Crusade, but the action was a little more boring I thought. Temple had best action scenes and best bugs, but the humour was not all that funny (at points) and the overall story arc was a little weaker.
Even this being the worst of them all would still be shit hot IMO.
It will still be bettre than any action film except Batman Begins in last few years, or even longer in some cases.
I am a huge Indy fan, and I wnat to love this, I dont care about neg reviews, I am still going to see it, if I dotn like it I will be surprised and dissapointed, but I wont cry about it.
Lucas has the right as does Spielberg to fuck this up, its their thing they invented from scratch, all they can do is make what they feel works best, as they did with all other ones, and hope the audience agrees.
Why even read a review for soemthing as big as a new Indy film, you are all going to see it anyway, so review it for yourself, if its soemthing new or obscure, then read reviews and decide to spend money on it or not, you dont do that for Indy, SW, Batman, Superman or LOTR, you just go and see it anyway, then judge from there -
he's hates everybody(especialy his abusive dad/mom person). Hey dude I decided that helping you cum wouldn't turn u into lees of a internet prick. My bad, sorry to get you all worked up like that big boy. I've got something that might work though...You need to get down to hollywood....right now pathetic warrior! Scotsman 75 is waiting and you two get a meeting will Speilburg and Lucas(via webcast). They want to know all you shit opinions right away! This could be the moment that turns your life out of the gutter! Oh yea! I forgot there's a passphase, It's "pathetic warrior's ducky cunt"just keep saying that. Something craptacular will happen.
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Why do people who want to be really abusive to each other, (you all know who you are, I dont have to say)on a movie news forum.
Isnt a regular chat forum more the place for that kind of thing.
Does this site not have any moderators at all, like almost every other site I have ever been on?
There dont seem to be any rules or behaviour codes in here, that is why this place ends up being a vacuum for all the people who want to type bad words into the computer for a laugh.
Perhaps they should make some no swearing, or abuse rules or you get banned
Just a thought
I just think its annoying that 2 thirds of this room is people abusing each other.
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It is written in the Ain't It Cool charter that two thirds of any talkback MUST be abusing each other at all times. Non compliance if penalised by a severe juggfuckling. Either that or TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION. That, sir, is the AICN way!I don't even like insulting people, but I do it from time to time just to keep the numbers up. Got a quota and all that. Cunt.
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May 13, 2008 9:54:47 AM CDT
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by lost jarv
Good Lord! What a horrible suggestion- that would truly rip the heart out of AICN. What Noob's like you don't understand is that vitriol and hatred are part and parcel of the Talkback- and better than that, are frequently highly amusing. What is astounding, though, is that despite 2/3 of each talkback being given over to abuse, underneath it all there is some great film chat. Unless memories-of-cock is involved. He has no chat, filmic or otherwise.
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Talking crap about films amidst a barrage of juvenile poo flinging is the heart of the AICN experience.That's why I keep coming back. That and all the opportunities for sarcasm, of course.
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I am not a Noob by the way, been coming here for ages and I do post, but only on the films/TV projects I am interested in, and only while at work normally, so dont get much time.
I was just bored trying to pick out all the actual discussions on Indiana Jones from all the butt fucking and what not.
Just not my thing, perhaps I should find another site where they just discuss the story...any suggestions?
Not trying to put anyone down, its obvious I am alone in my argument
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Agreed and well said. Although, I admit that I wouldn't mind a little more board moderation...or at least a Mod bitch-slap every once in awhile.
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Slap up a site where anyone and everyone can express an opinion and the inevitable result is a certain amount of shit to wade through. Teenagers, deviants, angry assholes, people with mental health issues, Transformers fans (redundant, I know) - all can and will rush to vent a little venom. Nothing wrong with it, you just learn to either filter it out or make fun of them.There may well be another site with heavier moderation, but those are usually pretty anodyne and, well, boring. Try calling a few people cunts, SKULL1138, you might like it.
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Try CHUD. Those guys started screaming like little girls after recently trying a talkback-alike for a bit.
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Now i just cant be bothered...I have not liked other sites in the past,
Maybe I just have to put up with it and filter out the abuse to get to the interesting stuff, which is usually ok in here.
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I needed that.Now, what's wrong with the BSG TBs?
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If you like AICN- the Zone is TB-lite. Now where is that little cockend? Come back Memories, all is forgiven.... *crosses fingers*
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...even remotely as mad and hilarious and rewarding and infuriating as AICN talkback.
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that makes it easier to pile abuse on people. Luckily, there's also something about the internet that makes it easy to ignore. If you can wade through the insults there are some people who are actually pretty knowledgeable about film.
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But that is what makes these talkbacks unique. Are you going to run across drippy little whores from time to time? Absolutely.But you take the good with the bad, and there are those whose opinions I always like to hear on various subjects (non-movie related as well). Ah, fuck CHUD too. When you have NoDiggity being the most reasonable on their message boards, that's all you need to know.
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...filmic insight and furiously obscene abuse that's so fucking great here.
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You all sent back good replies...
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that may, no fuck that- WILL, grow to become the most important movement in the 21st Century.
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See, abusing adolescent languange is fun for all the family!Also, DocP is right. When the talkbacks are on form, there is nothing quite like it and very little so funny. Vern Vs Chaos, for example, or Vern Vs Horsefucking. In fact, Vern has some kind of magical talkback improvement power. The man even summoned Bruce motherfucking Willis. Where else in the world might you accidently exchange words with Bruce motherfucking Willis?
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What are your thoughts on Fantastic Four and Fantastic Four 2: Holy Shit That Is A Nude Silver Man On A Flying Surfboard? I only ask because all of us clever posters know them to be masterpieces.
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Nicking off like that.What a cunt. ;p
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Ah, I see. No worries. Daft cunt.
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Have you seen Herc's latest DVD TB installment? There has been another sighting...
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Yup, seen him. He only appears every now and again to drop a solitary pearl of wisdom that we must decipher over time. Dude's crazy- I mean, he is god and everything, but he's still madder than a box of frogs.
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I've got to go and sharpen up my TB rapier. And Franklin that horsefucking TB was hysterical if only for the moment when DocP broke down, his trademark eloquence deserted him, and he posted "Dude, you fuck animals" or something to that effect. It was brilliant because there really was no getting round it.
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all in stride Jarv.
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full swing. I really wanted to smite Merriman Lyons last week. That muthafucking cunt was driving me insane.
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it is irritating me because what do the likes of him, diggers etc want from us? "Oh you were right, oh filmic sages of the talkback. Can I suck your cock now?"
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Spread your word. Let deaf ears hear your message....Though if you were a devout follower of the CoC, you would see the error in your misguided ways....cunt.
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I know and it's weird. M-O-M just showed up out of nowhere in one of the other INDY 4 TBs: http://tinyurl.com/3qou8dI thought he had been banned but that does not appear to be the case.And yes, the Equinas Horsefucking TB is hilarious...but it's also the most disturbing TB I've ever seen on AICN. That Equinas guy is a monster.
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really, really poo. And not in a good way. I hated the first one so much that I refused to watch the sequel.
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he was on the receiving end of a psuedo-banning (deletion but still intact username). He's like AnimalNazi- just unkillable.
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I remember that horsefucking TB. That may have been the first time I posted - and because it was so damn strange, it was the last time I posted for quite a while. He fucks horses, and is proud of it.
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On that pleasant, non-deviant in any way note I'm outta here. Horsefucking. Bizarre.
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I still have five hours of work ahead of me before I pound some ale!
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I see you are behaving yourself so far...Were you on a self-imposed ban or what?
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Now then, I agree/disagree with you on your TOD post above. While I generally prefer TOD over TLC, I can't say that TLC doesn't 'feel' like an Indy movie. It's still part of the Indy mythos, there's just parts that I don't like. But I still really enjoy TLC, just prefer TOD. Probably because it is different than Raiders. Now, I'm not sure how you can say the latest Indy film doesn't seem like a "genuine" Indy film. We haven't seen it yet, though from the latest trailers, I got the Indy vibe. And you feel skeptical, I do not. Perhaps it's the hope of seeing another quality Indy adventure, but I'm going to go into the next Indy looking forward to it. If it disappoints, I won't sugar-coat it and say it was a great, fun movie when it was not.You should do the same. Can you do that? You say another solid Indy adventure would make you happy, so then throw out the skepticism for now, and wait to see the movie before making a judgment about it.
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I think what bothers me the most about TLC is how they portray Brody and Sallah. Brody for the first half of the movie was pretty much on target, then his character sort of derails and becomes a bumbling sidekick. Sallah just seems like he's added for a throwback to Raiders and mainly and cheaply, for laughs. Granted he was a little dopey in a few scenes in Raiders, but here he is just played for schtick.
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I have said it before and I will say it again, so many people on here claim to be movie fanatics, but they are anything but, I have never seen a group of people who say they love movies so much but hate so many movies. This nonsense of judging a movie based on trailers and word of mouth is ridiculous. Do you people (the haters) have your own minds? Obviously not because you make judgements on movies that you have not even seen, you are just going by word of mouth or trailers or supposedly legit "reviews" from people who claim to have seen the movie. Here's a radical idea, go see the fucking movie, then if you hate it your argument and criticisms will have some basis in fact. Until you have the brains to do that, do us a favor and shut the fuck up with your stupid hateful nonsensical rantings about movies you have not even seen.
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Amen brother. Though it does seem like the number of people who actually already *hate* the new Indy movie isn't that many, it's just a few who are VERY vocal and pointy headed, and refuse to listen to any valid and reasonable points.STLost, I completely agree, and I think that's a valid criticism of TLC. I've always been sort of torn with Connery's part in it. A little too much comic relief, but for me, these are minor gripes as I would never, ever, shut off TLC if I come across it on cable.
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Okay, now we are getting somewhere...First Iron Man. I too never really got into IM when I used to read Marvel, he was always a 'fringe' hero for me, but again, it has all to do with the casting decision of RDJ. I enjoyed the hell out of it, and while I need to see it a second time to properly put it into perspective, off off the first viewing it was my favorite Marvel origin movie.And you're on a roll, cause I also enjoyed M&C, Perfume, and BB. Perfume was recommended to me by Frankie T. Marmoset, and that was a good movie. Probably my favorite Dustin role in a long time. And the other two, well I thought M&C was a solid movie, and I love BB.And I can completely see your view (and others) on Crusade. It rubs people the wrong way in a number of aspects. Again, I can still enjoy the movie for what it is.
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you're not satisfied until you make a cunt out of yourself and let everyone know it. Unfortunately, you're such a colossal fuck up and your posts lack any imagination or humor, you're not very good at that either. So, just let me set the record straight for some of you that have yet to realize that g-ride is in fact a bleeding torn cunt! In the future please put more effort into your posts as I know you're the kind of guy that enjoys being shit on and quite frankly there's not a whole lot there to work with.
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I appreciate your honesty, it's nice to see someone on here who thinks a movie looks bad yet actually wants to be proven wrong, as most of the haters are pig headed assholes who pre-judge a movie and will maintain their hatred, even if they actually liked the film, just so they don't look like even bigger assholes. They will come and say "See i was right (movie title) sucked like i said it would", meanwhile they love it and have seen it 5 times. I'm willing to bet a lot of haters are like that but we won't ever know it because they are too busy trying to make the world think they are so smart when in fact they are as stupid as they come.
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While I do have problems with TLC, I do still watch it and think it fits in the Indiana Jones mythology. I just feel it's the weakest of the three.
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hate just for the sake of hating, who immediately have made up their mind about a move before seeing it. They let someone else's opinion totally guide them into making a pre-determined judgment on a particular movie. And it's their mission to tell everyone that they are wrong, that the movie will suck, and that they are right. The "I told you so" gets kind of old when no one has seen the movie yet.
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multiple-viewed movie for me, much like Batman Begins. I also like the Burger King placement, which I found to be pretty hysterical for being so blatant.
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What about "King Solomon's Mines"? Or "Alan Quartermain and the Lost City of Gold"? Who can forget these Indy clones.
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And yes, Transformers still sucks, as I just caught it for the second time a couple of nights ago. That movie should have been trimmed down 30 - 40 minutes, and that's just dealing with the time issue, not the horrendous characters. And I really like everything Nolan has done, probably insomnia being my least favorite. I am extremely excited to see TDK, as I think that will probably top every other previous comic book adaption. From my perspective, I cannot for the life of me understand the hate that Nolan receives in general, or the hate Batman Begins receives specifically.
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Yawn! You make me sleepy.
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May 13, 2008 1:51:59 PM CDT
yes, if it's on cable, I'll give another movie a shot
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Because there are times where I'll grow to like a movie after seeing it a second time. Transformers is not one of them.I never saw The Island, though I would watch it to see Scarlet run...and run...and run.And I certainly get the feeling that TDK will surpass BB in every regard, cause I just love everything I've seen so far.
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and I found it an enjoyable little movie. I never watched Firefly, but found it entertaining enough.
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Yeah that irrirated Rickey a bit... Are the ad people even trying at this point? That's kind of offensive (to the Islamic culture) and flat out lazy. Screw those brown people in Afghanistan--this is the home of The Whopper!
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The Godfather part 2 is a truly excellent movie and along with The Godfather, they are 1a and 1 (at least this week, next week they may reverse yet again). My point is that part 2 does not put Godfather 'out of the water' as you say. They swim side by side.
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It made me wonder if I missed the boat with the short-lived series, though I suppose I would have just been pissed off that they canceled it (I'm thinking JourneyMan here...).
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Not pork.
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You're the first poster to mention his age. Odd....
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And it was neither subtle nor funny. But hey, this is a film that uses dying Afghanistan villagers as a plot device to enable Robert Downey Jr's heroic awakening, so why should be expect any less? Here's the thing: politically, IRON MAN is a complete mess of a film. It's all over the place, going from treating Afghanis as helpless people in need of paternalistic U.S. intervention, or flat out vilifying them as mindless terrorist savages. Sure the movie was fun, but it was also pretty mindless and silly too. Not too far removed from Transformers.
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I have to disagree. I did not have a problem with them using Afghanistan as the place where Stark gets wounded. It makes sense using a current real world "hot-spot". Now, as Stark didn't really care about the nitty-gritty of how his weapons were used before, I'm not sure why you have a problem with his "awakening". He realized that his own weapons were being used against American soldiers, and that innocent Afghani's were being harmed by those who took his weapons. Now just like any other action movie, it's easy to vilify a group to make them the movie's main bad guys. So what's the problem?
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In any case, that doesn't change what I said yesterday.
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Nathan was great in that role, though I would not want any further adventures of Indy without Harrison. In this case, for me anyways, this is not like Bond where different actors can step into the role. Indy is Harrison, and the character goes the way of the dodo bird once Harrison is done with him.
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It's not a huge deal--overall, the movie was pretty entertaining. The whole real world angle just rubbed Rickey the wrong way, that's all. Rickey aint to keen on the idea of a 10 year old sitting down in the movie theater and being convinced that deploying Iron Man in the Middle East is the answer to all our problems. Fuck NATO, Iron Man's on the job! See what Rickey's getting at? The movie is fun and whatnot, but in it's own way, it's just as unabashedly patriotic as a Michael Bay movies. It's a parable about snazzy military technology being deployed to solve out problems in the Middle East. Yes, they villify Stark's company for selling arms illegally, but that's a very shallow and facile characterization of the situation. If it only WERE that simple, we would've busted a company like Halliburton years ago. In reality, the situation is more complex. Rickey's point is that you can't toss issues like this into a big budget comic book movie and expect em to work or be even remotely effective. And yes, the original Iron Man origin had Stark in Vietnam, Rickey understands that. They should've left out the subtext--just Rickey's two cents.
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to the Middle East problems. Nor did I take it as overly patriotic. Stark decided enough was enough, and had to just *act* on his feelings of what he, and his company, had done to American soldiers and innocent Afghani's. Where do you think the movie was overly patriotic Rickey?
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The part where Iron Man drops out of the sky to rescue Afgahni villagers seemed like a parable for "Shock and Awe". But maybe that's just Rickey reading into it a bit much.
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That's pretty funny Orcus...action grandpa.Later boys, time to go home.
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It is Iron Man, and he does need to make a dramatic appearance being a superhero and all. It's under section 3.2, paragraph 3 of "How to be a Superhero".
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Heh, alright, maybe Rickey took it too far by comparing it to Transformers (let's not say things we can't take back here, right?). Rickey's point is that the pro-America message is subtle, but it's definitely there. Superheros going out to battle the Taliban just seems like very a dangerous thing to show a kid, that's Rickey's take on it. Yes, they're part of the 12 Rings, but for all intensive purposes (as as far as a kid is concerned) they're the Taliban.
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Rickey just enjoys being occasionally contrarian, that's all. When a movie like Iron Man comes along and gets a bazillion glowing reviews here on AICN, Rickey'g gotta go out and find SOME issues with it, you know? Otherwise, what's the point of coming here anyway? The internet is for complaining about stuff, isn't it?. In sumnation, Iron Man was great, but Rickey's a bit more psyched for TDK and Indy. As the key villian in Iron Man said in another flick, "well... that's just like your opinion... man."
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Rickey sat down and watched it last night and is ever so glad he didn't pay money to see it. What an awful awful awful fucking movie. They even went so far as to imitate 2001 at the end. Ugh.
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all i can remember is that he criticised me for being to uptight and judgmental of him. yeah him the horse guy. i really thought my mind was breaking on that one.
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The Wachowski's are rapidly becoming the most revolting screen writers in Hollywood. Just how long can they hang on to the glory of the first Matrix. Everything they've touched after that has been utter dung.
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agreed w/ your TOD/TLC analysis. especially about how TLC didnt have a personality, damn straight it felt like some gnarled and shriveled 3rd leg of Raiders. And it didnt have standout scenes like Temple did, the bugs, the spike room, the dinner, the mine carts, "water, water WATER!!!", and the bridge scene shows Indy at his most badass incarnate. How many times have we seen that iconic picture of a sleevless Ford holding whip and sword? Thats iconistry.
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Memories-Of-Murder & pROSEER...FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT!!!!!!
by ethan big nuts mckinley
Thank God someone finally took a stand For Temple of Doom.
You Guys are sooo Right. Temple In many ways Is an even purer version of the serials its homaging and an even purer version of Raiders. Its a non-stop ride, from James Bond style Indy at the start, all those iconic moments "No one's flying the plane!!", Diner Time, Spike room, Heart rip scene,, Its so 1940's style EC comics Horror Pulp, You could Argue IIt's even closer to the Serials and paperback fiction that inspired it existance in the 1st place! -
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What a heap of garbage. I remembered it being a bit mediocre but I actually thought I might enjoy it as a piece of escapism. I was wrong. It's truly awful. The kids are annoying, Willie Scott is incredibly annoying (what a let-down after the brilliant Karen Allen character) and the plot is mind-numbingly unengaging. Add to that the childish jokes and pranks - and I can't believe this was made by professional filmmakers. Having said that, I saw Raiders a few weeks ago - and it was brilliant: It's one of the best adventure movies - along with The Man Who Would Be King and Last Of The Mohicans (Michael Mann version). With Raiders they got the 'magic' just right. And where does this magic come from? Not even the creators of ROTLA seem to know - as they never managed to bottle it again.
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Thank God someone finally took a stand For Temple of Doom.
You Guys are sooo Right. Temple In many ways Is an even purer version of the serials its homaging and an even purer version of Raiders. Its a non-stop ride, from James Bond style Indy at the start, all those iconic moments "No one's flying the plane!!", Diner Time, Spike room, Heart rip scene,, Its so 1940's style EC comics Horror Pulp, You could Argue IIt's even closer to the Serials and paperback fiction that inspired it existance in the 1st place!
Also Indiana Jones Is "INDIANA JONES" In this. from his totally badass trade off of the diamond, to his total 24 carrot male chauvinism when he is about to seduce Willy..."years of field work"...He is in the tradition of those 30's/40's film stars - Clarke Gable, Charlton Heston, Steve McQueen, he'll save the world and probably try and shag your sister. But also t has great heart to (Indy and Shorty Exchanging Hats, when shorty stops "evil" Indy) and the end, Oh my god!! How fucking bad-ass Is Indiana Jones???!! He risks the lives of A woman and child just so He can Fucking Kill Mola Ram!!! THAT FOLKS, IS THE INDIANA JONES FROM THE CONCEPT PAINTINGS. A total mercenary grave robber alfa male whip cracking superhero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So onto "CRUSADE"...... like r"return of the Jedi", The film makers Terrified that they went to Dark, Different direction and edgy with second Instalment, End up Re hashing all the elements from the first movie, (Death Star destruction / Nazi's Religious artifact race) As for "CRUSADE" It did'nt have a great pre-movie adventure (Boy scout Indiana Jones?? puurrleez!!) A lot of the set pieces a poor knock offs of Raiders and much of the film takes place in very dull set based rooms and does'nt have the epic cross-continent sweep the previous two seemed to have in spades. It even looks like it was done on a fraction of the budget, The aeroplane sequence, the boat sequence, filmed in Londons docklands, Looks just that. AND THE END...Melting/ageing Nazi, Blah, Blah, Blah..
But You know what I have been unduely harsh. I Love All films, Even their weakest moments stand head and shoulders over any action adventure made today.
I just want this silly hate of TEMPLE OF DOOM to STOP! jUST COS SPIELBERG SAYS ITS HIS LEAST FAVOURITE, YOU ALL JUMP ONT HE BANDWAGON. WELL HE AND YOU MY FRIENDS ARE WRONG. CRUSADE INDY IS A PUSSY. BUT ITS STILL A GREAT FILM.
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Thank God someone finally took a stand For Temple of Doom.
You Guys are sooo WRONG!!!!. "Temple", In many ways Is an even purer version of the serials its homaging and an even purer version of Raiders. Its a non-stop ride, from James Bond style Indy at the start, It's episodic structure, fast pace all those iconic moments "No one's flying the plane!!", Diner Time, Spike room, Heart rip scene,, Its so 1940's style EC comics Horror Pulp, You could Argue IIt's even closer to the Serials and paperback fiction that inspired it existance in the 1st place!
Also Indiana Jones Is "INDIANA JONES" In this. from his totally badass trade off of the diamond, to his total 24 carrot male chauvinism when he is about to seduce Willy..."years of field work"...He is in the tradition of those 30's/40's film stars - Clarke Gable, Charlton Heston, Steve McQueen, he'll save the world and probably try and shag your sister. But also t has great heart to (Indy and Shorty Exchanging Hats, when shorty stops "evil" Indy) and the end, Oh my god!! How fucking bad-ass Is Indiana Jones???!! He risks the lives of A woman and child just so He can Fucking Kill Mola Ram!!! THAT FOLKS, IS THE INDIANA JONES FROM THE CONCEPT PAINTINGS. A total mercenary grave robber alfa male whip cracking superhero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yeah Willy IS annoying but she is a one dimensional High society spoiled bitch ( a art deco Paris Hilton if you will....) So deal with it, she was meant to be that way!!! in total opposition to Marion's two fisted tomboy Character from the first.
So onto "CRUSADE"...... like "return of the Jedi", The film makers Terrified that they went to Dark, Different direction and edgy with second Instalment, End up Re hashing all the elements from the first movie, (Death Star destruction / Nazi's Religious artifact race) As for "CRUSADE" It did'nt have a great pre-movie adventure (Boy scout Indiana Jones?? puurrleez!!) A lot of the set pieces a poor knock offs of Raiders and much of the film takes place in very dull set based rooms and does'nt have the epic cross-continent sweep the previous two seemed to have in spades. It even looks like it was done on a fraction of the budget, The aeroplane sequence, the boat sequence, filmed in Londons docklands, Looks just that. AND THE END...Melting/ageing Nazi, Blah, Blah, Blah..
But You know what I have been unduely harsh. I Love All films, Even their weakest moments stand head and shoulders over any action adventure made today.
I just want this silly hate of TEMPLE OF DOOM to STOP! jUST COS SPIELBERG SAYS ITS HIS LEAST FAVOURITE, YOU ALL JUMP ONT HE BANDWAGON. WELL HE AND YOU MY FRIENDS ARE WRONG. CRUSADE INDY IS A PUSSY. BUT ITS STILL A GREAT FILM.
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At the end of the movie RAIDER OF THE LOST ARK when Indy and Marcus are being told the Ark is being worked on by "Top Men".
Look In the Background of the Room they are in.
The old man In glasses overseeing the meeting is the very same man that is at the autopsy of the sharks first victim conducted by Richard Dreyfuss!!!
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I mean come on! For years Harrison Ford and Spielberg have talked about how progress on the fourth installment was stalled because no one could come up with a script that Lucas would approve of. Lucas, whose taste in stories has been questionable at best over the past 20+ years but especially the past 10, was insistent upon a storyline or theme like the one that ended up as the one for KOTCS, but Ford and Spielberg pooh-poohed on it because it wasn't "Indy material". Well George got his way and now we will all reap the disastrous results.
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Different guy. Sorry. The medical examiner in Jaws was a local man from Martha's Vineyard. The guy in Raiders is a different guy.
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iM SURE ITS THE SAME GUY, IMDB IS NOT BARING ANY FRUIT ON THIS
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Eat it bitches
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My only worry about the new one is the RUSSIANS(nazi's) racing to get to the finish line plot is being recycled again. I love the Roswell angle, tho. perhaps It should have been the U.S. goverment he was against this time. that would have been a cool twist
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Thank God someone finally took a stand For Temple of Doom.
You Guys are sooo WRONG!!!!. "Temple", In many ways Is an even purer version of the serials its homaging and an even purer version of Raiders. Its a non-stop ride, from James Bond style Indy at the start, It's episodic structure, fast pace all those iconic moments "No one's flying the plane!!", Diner Time, Spike room, Heart rip scene,, Its so 1940's style EC comics Horror Pulp, You could Argue IIt's even closer to the Serials and paperback fiction that inspired it existance in the 1st place!
Also Indiana Jones Is "INDIANA JONES" In this. from his totally badass trade off of the diamond, to his total 24 carrot male chauvinism when he is about to seduce Willy..."years of field work"...He is in the tradition of those 30's/40's film stars - Clarke Gable, Charlton Heston, John Wayne, he'll save the world and probably try and shag your sister (and succeed). But also Temple has great heart to (Indy and Shorty Exchanging Hats, when shorty stops "evil" Indy) and the end, Oh my god!! How *beep* bad-ass Is Indiana Jones???!! He risks the lives of A woman and child just so He can *beep* Kill Mola Ram!!! THAT FOLKS, IS THE INDIANA JONES FROM THE CONCEPT PAINTINGS. A total mercenary grave robber alfa male whip cracking superhero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yeah Willy IS annoying but she is a one dimensional High society spoiled bitch ( a art deco Paris Hilton if you will....) So deal with it, she was meant to be that way!!! in total opposition to Marion's two fisted tomboy Character from the first.
So onto "CRUSADE"...... like "return of the Jedi", The film makers Terrified that they went to Dark, Different direction and edgy with second Instalment, End up Re hashing all the elements from the first movie, (Death Star destruction / Nazi's Religious artifact race) As for "CRUSADE" It did'nt have a great pre-movie adventure (Boy scout Indiana Jones?? puurrleez!!) A lot of the set pieces a poor knock offs of Raiders and much of the film takes place in very dull set based rooms and does'nt have the epic cross-continent sweep the previous two seemed to have in spades. It even looks like it was done on a fraction of the budget, The aeroplane sequence, the boat sequence, filmed in Londons docklands, Looks just that. AND THE END...Melting/ageing Nazi, Blah, Blah, Blah..
But You know what I have been unduely harsh. I Love All films, Even their weakest moments stand head and shoulders over any action adventure made today.
I just want this silly hate of TEMPLE OF DOOM to STOP! jUST COS SPIELBERG SAYS ITS HIS LEAST FAVOURITE, YOU ALL JUMP ONT HE BANDWAGON. WELL HE AND YOU MY FRIENDS ARE WRONG. CRUSADE INDY IS A PUSSY. BUT ITS STILL A GREAT FILM.
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when GEORGE LUCAS, of all people, apologizes for it, which is exactly what he did with Temple of Doom. I mean, this guy "gave" us the Star Wars prequels, and what does he feel the need to apologize for? Temple of Doom. I kid, I actually like all the Indy movies (and yeah, I do like The Last Crusade more than Temple of Doom.), but I did think that was ironic.
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You may be getting an inexplicable pass from everyone here, but you are still the basest hypocrite ever to post. "makes the people who didn't get it not look the best to wear, i'm affraid." You are talking about the matrix sequels- 2 eternal sacks of crap. And no this had nothing at all to do with me missing classes or being an idiot. These are woeful, pretentious, poorly executed efforts that paste phoney intelligence over deeply flawed narratives. They have wooden acting, massive holes in the plots and are utterly, utterly dismal. Now dickhead, tell me again how "good" AvP:R is. I remember you exploding in an orgasmic spray of random letters at the prospect of this cinematic gold. And you think Indy 4 will be shit. How on earth is it more of a cash grab, with worse constituent parts, than AvP:R which you were excited about?
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Just to say in all my time online, I have never seen such a congregation of pathetic, low-life, lock-in cunts in my life. If there is still any wonder why AICN has earned such a dubious reputation, look no further than here. Fucking losers.
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...and was even more outraged than the first time I saw it. I can't remember the last time a movie made me so enraged and offended. Everyone responsible for that cynical, miserable piece of offal should go to prison for crimes against pop culture.
Oooooooh, I can't wait for Meg to open so that shithole Shane Salerno can come back here and defend his "work".
Speaking of which, remember all those talkbackers defending AvP:R? Has anyone seen them since? Didn't think so.
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...rightful priase and zeitgeist slavery"
"Your reasoning is fawlty. What you reckon would be the attitude of what in your mind would be a real movie fan is alike a religious fanatic, where everythign is dandy and good about their religion, and there's no flaw in it. That's fanaticism, of the unreasonable kind."
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As a great fan of the original 2 movies, I must say I'm tempted to watch this just to sample how outrageously bad it is.
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If you do, your username will instantly become more accurate.
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Don't. I can't say this enough. It is to be avoided like the plague. I'm sorry to say, I own the fucker. One of my friends gave it to me as a "joke" present as he knew how much I despised it. And yet, I can't bring myself to throw it out. Maybe I'll just give it to my sister for her birthday, but I'm such a completist nerd that I must.... own..... them..... all.......
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Jarv, have you seen some of the fan preservation DVDs available online? They are collections of footage and documentaries fans have collected from all over the globe and put together in very impressive DVD packages for free, the so-called "Alien Appendix" series.
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...actually makes AvP look good. Really good. That's how fucking awful it is on every level.
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but the missus threatened me with Divorce over it. She can be quite unreasonable sometimes. AvP:Rectum is AvP with a level of sadism that is out of place for Alien. GIVE ALIEN 5 TO NEIL MARSHALL!!!!
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How was Doomsday?
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Sadly I managed to land myself with Heatstroke on saturday so spent Yesterday and Sunday being ill. I'm going this weekend though.
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At the very end of Raiders, after the obnoxious military intelligence guy insists "Top Men", we cut to the outside of the building where a HATLESS Indy is being stopped by someone who has followed him out and is handing him his HAT, that he FORGOT, presumably because he was so angry he left without it. Another example of Indy being cavalier and careless with his Hats!
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...it's proof that his hat catches up with him no matter what. Thank you for giving substance to my speculation that Katanga sent his gear to him after his adventure.
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In which I merely pointed out that in RAIDERS Indy apparently goes through several hats. He replaces the one we see him wearing in the beginning (and soaking into shapelessness in the river) replaces it with a new one that we see him wearing on the plane (and which becomes filthy by the time he reaches Marion's bar), loses one Katanga's boat (along with the jacket and arguably the whip, neither of which are on him when he climbs on board the submarine), and is finally seen with another brand new hat at the very end of the film. So, by the end of the film, he is on his third hat, and almost loses that one! This seemed to upset the devotees of the Magic One Hat faith.
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pointy head hell. You're still a fucking hypocrite snob memories, nowt has changed, and you can backpedal as hard as you like over your hypocrisy (you've even posted your usual crap in this TB), when it is patently obvious you choose to spend your free time furiously masturbating to Michael Bay/ Brett Ratner films.
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... it was one cool Hat.
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I can't summon up my usual level of hatred to deal with memories today. *Sigh* I'll go and ask the trinity for help.
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It is a great movie. But I cringe every time that damn monkey shows up. Worst moment in the movie, the monkey saying "uh oh". Okay, I'll give the monkey this .. he was effective in the scene where Indy thinks Marion is dead, and is getting drunk, and the monkey is all sad too.
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And never Appologized for it either. Yes, he did say certain things but he was never quite THAT extreme. And he better fucking not do it because I'll be fucking pissed, I love Spielberg to pieces but he's in no position to critisize his fucking masterpieces!
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I come back this morning and Merriman posts his dribble yet again, No Diggity brings up the hat yet again, and Ethan Big Nuts forgot to take his medication.
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That's an easy one to answer M-O-M. Your prior dealings with certain posters (which is why you had multiple users questioning whether you were the real M-O-M or not) have left a very bad taste in their mouth. So there's going to be a certain level of 'trepidation' from them. I'm not going to lambast you from the get-go when I see no need to. As you can tell from this particular thread, I agree with you on many points. And No Diggity has driven many a talkbacker insane.
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He's like a bad penny, I tells ya!
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No Diggity.
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Interesting doings on the boards lately.
All the nutters are returning to the roost- and a few new ones have joined in.
Some very funny posts over in the Rumsfelf thread, some dude named Liberalwarrior was laying the smacketh down on BraneRobot chrism, gotham et al. Very funny stuff.
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Yes, I was wading through that gobble-dee-gook this morning. It's always amusing to see sane, rational people try and converse with complete nutjobs. I posted to that thread early on when braneballs posted something like the Dems were using fear. That creature (borrowing DocP's classification of him) is very, very scary.
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I was out yesterday. I joined my daughter's class on a field trip. Believe me, I'd have rather been here. Yesterday night the kids and I watched ToD again. NICE TRY, LAO CHE!!
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But he damn sure is funny!
Came up with some doozies over there. I like his 'Motarded' , which is more than retarded. 'Diseased armadillo twat' was prety cool too.
I did see G100 and Colonel Act trying to be rational with the likes of Morbid and Brane.
It appeared Brane finally lost any cool he might have and started ranting. I think BSB set him off.
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... don't you think that it's a cool Hat ?
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Don't feel guilty for owning AVP:R. I too am a completist, at least of certain franchises. Owning ALL the titles in a series doesn't mean you have to like 'em
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There are some titles I refuse to complete. Blade 3, will never be purchased.
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if you cringe simply at the Raiders monkey going, Uh-Oh, then Temple of Doom must send you into convulsions. Which isn't to say I don't like Temple of Doom. But that movie has more of those slapstick moments, like when the big thuggee guard (Pat Roach) yanks the sledgehammer from Indy and throws it, and it lands on another guard's head with a DANG! Or when Willie is trying to get on her elephant, and the village women are gawking at her. Or when Willie is sprayed off the elephant. Or when Indy pushes on the boobs of the fresco to open the secret door. Or...there's just too many.
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yeah, I wasn't talking specifically about liberalwarrior.And I have not problem NOT completing a series when I know one of the entries is utter shit: Spidey 3, Blade 3 is a good example, anything after Alien 3...
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with a spirit. And he has several of them. That explains why they keep coming back, or don't seem to sustain any damage. In fact, they were manufactured by the extraterrestrials you will see in "Crystal Skull" and were teleported back in time to a hat store near Marshall College.
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Raiders only had the monkey. The monkey going "uh oh", the implication that the monkey actually conversed with Eye-Patch, the monkey telling on Marion. But the monkey had good moments, as when he Sieg-Heiled the Nazis and they stupidly Seig-Heiled back. But Doom? Groaners from beginning to end.
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there should be a "passing of the torch" symbolic moment where Indy gives his leather jacket...to Arthur Fonzarelli. Admit it, you want to see that happen now.
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the monkey Sieg-Heil was a nice touch. That's one thing my kid doesn't understand about Raiders that I have to explain repeatedly. She thought the monkey belonged to Sallah's family. I always have to explain that no, the monkey is a "bad guy" and belongs to the eye-patch guy. And she'll ask, well what's THAT guy's name? And I'll say, I dunno, he's just eye-patch guy. He's a spy for the bad guys, and his monkey helps him be bad. You know it's not Sallah's monkey, because his wife asks Marion and the group of kids where it came from. And sadly, the Seig-Heil simian pays the ultimate penalty for running with the Nazis. He expires from "bad dates."
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May 14, 2008 9:06:23 AM CDT
What movies would be on a list of the best 'third' movie in a fr
by toadkillerdog
Ok, some of these movies cannot be described as 'best' but off top of my head this is what i come up with.
Goldfinger
Return of the King
Return of the Jedi
Rocky III
Another Thin Man
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Is what i meant
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Should have bought the 'i' instead of the 'a'...
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The "business/travel" grey and the "adventuring" brown.Just thought I'd mention it, since we're talking about the hat again.
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That surpassed the previous two
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Not that it surpassed Evil Deads, but fuck if I don't love that movie....goodie little two shoes..
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in the Rumsfeld thread.
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although not quite reaching the heights of Space, Da Hood and Back to Da Hood, is still worth a mention. Tremors 3 for giving the world ass-blasters and theres nothing irrational about my hatred of you, you filthy piece of Eurotrash.
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Dylan is clearly a futuristic changian. Can there be anything more manly than taking on a xenomorph with your bare hands?
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It depends on who is considered the star. I like em both though!
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Never saw it though...
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HOLYHEAD, Wales - A man who dressed up as Darth Vader, wearing a garbage bag for a cape, and assaulted the founders of a group calling itself the Jedi church was given a suspended sentence Tuesday.
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Arwel Wynne Hughes, 27, attacked Jedi church founder Barney Jones — aka Master Jonba Hehol — with a metal crutch, hitting him on the head, prosecutors told Holyhead Magistrates' Court.He also whacked Jones' 18-year-old cousin, Michael Jones — known as Master Mormi Hehol — bruising his thigh in the March 25 incident, prosecutors said.The two cousins and Barney Jones' brother, Daniel, set up the Church of Jediism, Anglesey order, last year. Jedi is the faith followed by some of the central characters in the "Star Wars" films.The group, which claims about 30 members, says on its Web site that it uses "insight and knowledge" from the films as "a guide to living a better and more worthwhile life.""We all love the films and what they stand for. Obviously some people are going to laugh about it," the Wales on Sunday newspaper quoted Barney Jones as saying last month. "But a lot of people do take it seriously."Unfortunately for Hughes, his March attack was recorded on a video camera that the cousins had set up to film themselves in a light saber battle."Darth Vader! Jedis!" Hughes shouted as he approached.
Hughes claimed he couldn't remember the incident, having drunk the better part of a 2 1/2-gallon (10-liter) box of wine beforehand."He knows his behavior was wrong and didn't want it to happen but he has no recollection of it," said Hughes' lawyer, Frances Jones.District Judge Andrew Shaw sentenced Hughes to two months in jail but suspended the sentence for one year. He also ordered Hughes to pay $195 to each of his victims and $117 in court costs.In the 2001 United Kingdom census, 390,000 — 0.7 percent of the population — listed Jedi as their religion. -
because without Kevin Bacon or Fred Ward, the movie became a vehicle for Burt Gummer (Michael Gross).
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Thanks for that strosmer. I'm sure that 0.7% get all the ladies...
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I just read Branes last spasm, damn that boy is starting to fall apart in front of our eyes!
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0.7% listed JEdi Knight, something like 1.5% put football. There were also a suspicious amount of Rastas (LEGALISE DOPE!!! FREE THE WEED!!!!) The whole things was a farce. I'm a one-legged, African, Single mother, Lesbian, etc. A waste of time and money.
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May 14, 2008 10:19:11 AM CDT
drunk the better part of a 2 1/2-gallon (10-liter) box of wine
by strosmer
I've got tears in my eyes laughing. Garbage bag cape, piss drunk, wacking people with his crutch, yelling "Darth Vader! Jedis!" Oh, man. Too much. Somebody do a viral video of this, please.
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strosmer, think of the impact this may have had on the younglings!
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they'd leave wales. Shithole of a country full of bastards.
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May 14, 2008 10:25:08 AM CDT
I would have 'no recollection' of the planet I lived on
by toadkillerdog
If I drank 10 liters of box wine!
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perhaps after drinking the wine his face really looks like Vader now.
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gets props for taking on a dog-alien (or bull, depending on which version you saw) on behalf of his "sistah" in A3.
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http://tinyurl.com/4mf4bg
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Thanks.And it's 'owe' not own. Own means to possess something..like an idol for instance. :-)
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he'll only then say that he only takes English lessons from an English native. Dirty piece of psuedo-snob Eurotrash.
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Hopefully there's only one 'Jarv' in the zone.Fucking zone.
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I just like saying that.
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Mola Ram. Now...he is a TRUE BELIEVER. Too bad, because in the original script for "Crystal Skull," Purvi was going to play Simon Peter Ram. That's right. Mola Ram's BROTHER.
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Naw, that was a lame Die Hard 3 joke.
The way I interpret Indy's relationship with Henry Jones Sr. is that he doesn't have issues anymore, he's gotten past his dad's obsession with the grail and gone on with his own life. However, he is forced to confront his father, and his father's issues, in Crusade because his father goes missing while in search of the grail. The issue comes to head, I think, during that scene on the motorcycle where Indy tells his dad, "I never understood it. Neither did mom." They patch things up nicely with Henry Sr. showing he's willing to let his obsession go, and he likewise tells Indy at the end to "Let it go," meaning BOTH the grail and whatever lingering resentment he may have had toward ol' pops. And they ride off into the sunset with a newfound respect and fondness for each other. What was it Henry Sr. told Indy? "Following you on your adventures has been...illuminating?" Or was it enlightening? Something like that. -
I just want to go on record as well, saying I love Temple Of Doom, always have, always will. They could have just gone and made a clone of ROTLA, but they didn't and I applauded them for that, it wasn't some grand threat to the world like in ROTLA, just and adventure that fell into Indy's lap, and that's part of what makes it great.
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I have noticed (how can you not...lol) that a lot of people hate Michael Bay, and I do mean hate him and his movies. Now, I don't profess that the guy makes movies of substance and great cinematic art, but I seem to be in the minority of people who have enjoyed most of his movies. Maybe it's because I take his movies for what I see them as, mindless popcorn entertainment. Characters that are nothing special (for the most part, Sean Connery as John Mason in THE ROCK was an awesome character IMO), just about the same music in each of his movies, and loud busy action sequences that try to distract from the shallowness of the movie. Like i said, I guess i'm in the minority by saying, so what? However flawed his movies are, and trust me I know they are, they entertain. Now some may call me shallow, or someone who has no true love of cinema, or simple minded with low expectations, but that is simply not true. There are some directors that I expect great things from, others i have low expectations for, same with actors. I guess what i'm saying is that I have never really seen anyone take the time to explain WHY Bay is such a "hack" or whatever you think he is. Don't get me wrong, we are all entitled to our opinions, and i'm not flaming anyone for hating Bay, i'm just curious to know exactly why you hate him.
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Orcus, I just joined this party (damn I missed alot on here this week while I was on business travel!), but I think Abom was joking about the "original" KOTCS script. All par of the Die Hard 3 parody from a few posts before.
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The Finkernator, the Finkmeister, the Fink-o-ramma!
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two-fold: Whenever I read or see an interview with him, he comes off like a popmpous guy who thinks he's the raddest thing in Hollywood (next to Brett Ratner, of course), and that he knows better than anyone else hwo to make a movie, so we should all be kissing his ass and thanking him for his films. That kind of attitutde doesn't earn any respect from me. 2) I just do't really enjoy his films. And this is where 75% of my dislike for Bay comes from. Armageddon, Pearl Harbor, The Rock (which I actually did enjoy when I saw it in the theater as a teenager) - these movies are cut from a fabric specifically made to cater to the mass moron theater audiences. Hollyood studios and producers love it b/c it helps mitigate the risk of them not making a windfall on the movie (easier to market, potentially wider "target" demographic). But that rarely makes it a good quality film. The characters typically come off shallow or underwritten, the films are all about BANG and BOOM without much regard to story or character development, and they often include the "latest" hip rock songs, which certainly makes sense from a cross-promotional standpoint, but is fucking ridiculuous for movies which don't pertain to rock music. It's like he wants to make a rock nroll action flick everytime. But is only concerned with the "action" part and nothing else. That kind of film isn't satifying to me as a viewer. I know it obviously works for many theater-going boobs because they apparently eat it up, which just encourages the cycle and annoys me even more. I do't begrudge his success at all, just the insulting quality of his movies.
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Granted, I only saw Last Crusade twice, once in the theater, and once a month ago on VHS. But the thing is, even as a pastiche, it was, of the two sequels, the one that seemed to care about honoring RAIDERS most. The goofy moments were higher than RAIDERS, but less than DOOM. There was a genuine sense of history and awe and reverence towards the past (and the unceremonious dumping of Richard the Lionheart's bones into the water, when his coffin is needed for protection, is a very Indyish moment). And I felt all the things you do now about the forced Father Son bonding crud, back then, but this time I didn't mind. Indy seemed like himself, even if he did have play second fiddle to Sean Connery. So, suck as it might compared to Raiders, it was a hell of a lot more in the spirit of Raiders than Doom was.
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what's doing, bro? That's awesome that you sat the kids down for some Indy time last night. I think as a kid I didn't fully get who the monkey was with, but I knew in the end he ratted out Marion. But I still used to feel bad that he died. It shoulda been the monkey man who trained him and was truly the one responsible for it that got the bad date. And, as I said in a post last week, "Nice try, Lao Che!" is the best line in ToD ("Prepare to meet Kali" is 2nd and "Shorty, where's my razor?!" is third....er, not really.)
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a couple of the department heads threatened to get rid of "dress down casual days." In my best Mola Ram voice I said, "They will be found. YOU WON'T!" And then I let fly the pencils.
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Pretty much all you said about Bay is what i said, but does that make me a "theater going boob" because I enjoy his movies? I have never seen an interview with the man so I cannot comment on that, but I will say that the attitude you say he displays in interviews I don't like either, but I try not to let things like that intrude on my enjoyment of a movie. I don't pretend his movies are anymore that what I said they are, and maybe that's why I enjoy them. All i know is that I am not a "theater going boob", just someone who enjoys mindless fun once in a while. Thank you for your response, I respect your views. I still want to hear from other Bay haters though.
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I abso-fuckin-lutely eat up just about every line that guy has in Raiders right up until he fuckin melts into a bloody puddle. "Good evening, fraulein.....We are, heh, we are not thirsty." "Do you still have it?....Oh, almost certainly....Let me show you...what I am used to." And the coat hanger moment is fantastic and not even a word spoken! "Now, what shall we talk about?"
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Sorry, didn't mean to hijack the thread, i just kept seeing references to Transformers and it just sparked interest in why Bay is so hated, my apologies.
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"Shoot them, shoot them both" that guy does have great lines.
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LOL. Next time, just stand up, chuckle, and look at the guy who says that bullshit and say Nice try, Lao Che!" then throw a fiery pencil-harpoon across the room into this right hand man's chest (who will then screamm and pop off a couple of wanton gun shots into the the air), run toward the nearest gong, karate chop it off it's ropes, and make for the closest window to jump from - all the while running behind the cover of the rolling gong. Or, instead of all that, just smile, nod, and silently think "go get hit by a car this evening, you facist fuck!"
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Your question in no way, shape, or form was hijacking the thread. In fact, like you stated, it was all related since Transformers was mentioned above. And at this point, with the number of posts, it is most definitely not hijacking at this late in the game. Numerous other movies have been discussed and mentioned (right M-O-M????), so do not worry about it. This is fucking talkback.Oh, and the holy trinity smiles upon thee loyal warciples Abom and Finky.
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I wouldn't say that merely being able to enjoy one of Bay's movies makes one a theater going boob. Off-topic, I will say that the only GOOD theater going boobs are the ones that will appear in the theaters showing Jennifer's Body. I enjoyed the Rock, though it's been a long, long time since I watched it. I saw the Island and it was just "okay", but in Bay's fashion it became much more about the action than the characters development as the film progressed. The "theater going boobs" of which i referred are the same people that laughed aloud at the Love Guru trailer in front of Iron Man. The same people who claim Bay's transformers was a great movie just because it had big robots who destroy shit and will pay money to see it because they don't care if anything else works in the film. Mindless fun can be a good thing, but the difference between "theater going boobs" and non-t-g-b's is that the former will expressly want to see a movie just for the mindless fun (or dumbed down comedy) vs the latter group, which at least expects more from a decent film. Doesn't mean they can't enjoy a mindless film - just that it's not what they seek from movies. Check YouTube for some Bay interviews from Transformers.
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about shooting the two swordsmen in ToD is that ToD was a prequel, which means that shooting (or attempting to shoot) the two thugee swordsmen becomes the reference point to shooting the swordsman in Raiders, not the other way around. But any way you take it, the little "joke" is that Indy's prefered way of dealing with dudes with swords would be to shoot the fuckers, and thus not have to deal with 'em at all. Now, if they have a scene where he shoots (or tries shooting) a bunch of sword dudes, I'll probably puke
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I've coined a term for my brother and I. Whenever we go out to see a movie, I call it a "Geek Loser Movie Night." Which is self-effacing, I know, and tongue in cheek, given that we see a lot of superhero / sci-fi / adventure fare. But unlike "TGBs" this particular "geek loser" (me) DOES care about the quality of a story, character exposition, etc. That is why, say, Transporter 2 will never rise above the level of guilty pleasure. Whereas Iron Man does. Rocky Balboa did. Cloverfield did not. Etcetera
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a quick musical cue for the two swordsmen, which recalls Williams' music for the Raider's swordsman.
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"What do you want?"
"The same thing your friend Dr. Jones wanted, surely he told you there would be other interested parties"
"Must have slipped his mind"
"The man is nefarious, I hope for your sake he has not yet acquired it"
"Why are you willing to offer more?"
"Oh almost certainlly"
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great line, indeed! And seriously, AICN talkbacks have never been about "staying on topic". Especially when they have been going on this long. It's one thing to try and hijack with title-spamming or something, but a guy legitimately posing a question like that is BS. Besides, M-O-M ain't no moderator. I enjoy Indytalk as much as the next dedicated Indyfan, but if I don't care about a side conversation in a TB, I just don't read it. But let's not get "too off topic" here talking about stuff like "getting off topic."
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and I hope it's like star wars, with geeks running up and down the aisles dressed like Indy, with boulders rolling after them, or being chased by their buddies (dressed as Hovito indians).
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May 14, 2008 2:28:46 PM CDT
Pillow, what's up? Feel like it's been a million since I've been
by finky089
My hard drive died this mornig, so I'm in a vacant office using what must be the shittiest late-90's mouse and keyboard in the entire company, so my typing now eiher sucks or takes three times as long because not all the keys work well and the mouse's rollerball desn't seem to like to move left.
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I'm glad you guys brought up that quote--"shoot dem both," because I've always wanted clarification on that.
When Toht says "Shoot dem both," does he mean, shoot Indy and Marion, or does he mean "Screw all this nonsense--shoot Jones and the guy he's tangling with." Because that's one bad dude if he's willing to waste his own men if it takes out his enemy. -
on finky's slow, bullshit, late 90s mouse in the vacant office. DIE mouse, DIE, and your piece of shit won't roll left rollerball DIE
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as a kid, I thought Toht meant "Shoot Jones and the girl," but as an adult I figured he probably meant, "Just shoot Jones and the other dude, then let's get the piece and get out of here." You'll notice watching it again, that Indy doesn't have to work all that hard to "force" the adversary he's grappling with to aim his gun at the other villain and shoot, seeing that now BOTH of them were in danger of being killed
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The CoC will ring the bell for your hard drive...
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I love all three of these flicks and am dying to see the new one regardless of how many come forward stating it was shit. I'll judge for myself thanks. But in terms of the sequels as I've seen to date? Temple of Doom, the one I can't understand for the life of me why it is so reviled, was the most fun I can even remember in a theater. To. This. Date. I don't particularly care how much hate or 'nuh uh, you wrong, you don't know films!' it brings - TOD was a genuine thrill ride that went from beginning to end the way serials should. As the poster above me stated, everything goes.
Last Crusade on the other hand, while I still liked it a lot, is the lesser of the 3 films. It just relies too much on Raiders and the plot device (the Grail) just bored me to tears. I loved the ending and some of the more Raider's-esque moments, but TOD was much more entertaining to me.
And I will even say this - I think Raiders is by far the more competent and damn near a perfect film, BUT I would watch TOD 20 times more in a lifetime just for sheer entertainment. Just my $.02
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Anything goes, like:
an opening musical number
a chorus line on a stage that can't possibly fit in that club
eyeball soup
giant bug appetizer
a diamond lost on a floor in a scattering of ice cubes
chilled monkey brains
Indy NOT banging Willie right there, but rather arguing with her about research of "nocturnal activities," then going to separate rooms to see who gives in first
trying to shoot two swordsmen
a kid driving a car
a raft as a parachute
a rolling gong for a shield
a flaming shishkabob as a spear
Lao Che and his surviving son laughing at Indy as he boards the plane, even though the other son was just skewered to death and there's no reason to be jovial
snake surprise
alive after having heart ripped out
a thriving thugee cult after 100 years of non-existence
No burns on Willie after being lowered into volcanic shaft, even though the cage appeared to be metal and it must have been about 1000 degrees down there
Indy slapping a child (Shorty)
child slaves being whipped
Dan Ackroyd as charter plane guy
Indy voodoo doll
rollercoaster mine car race
mine car "Bridge Out" track jump
various animals scaring Willie at camp
whipping Indy and Shorty (a kid)
Naive indian villagers who worship one sankara stone, when having two or more will mean some SERIOUS JUJU magic, which at least Mola Ram seems to grasp
Thuggee archers who apparently couldn't shoot an arrow into the side of a barn, certainly not if Indiana jones were climbing a ladder against said barn
Willie re-activating the spike trap that Indy and Shorty just got out of
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is like someone taking your baby elephant and tossing it through a window
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check in tomorrow for more Indy merriment
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That coat hanger gag is one of the greatest comedy moments in a non-comedy film ever. I seem to recall reading somewhere that it was a spur of the moment thing, much like Indy shooting the swordsman.
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Excellent use of the word "pastiche". I do believe it's a first for an Ain't It Cool talkback.
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May 14, 2008 3:28:02 PM CDT
I was boggled by a Last Crusade Hater who loved the BEGINNING!
by nodiggity
Because it provided all these "facts" about Indy. The worst part of the movie was that horrible boy-scout intro.
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May 14, 2008 3:31:58 PM CDT
Being Roman Catholic, I was delighted to find out Indy was.
by nodiggity
Henry Jones Sr.: DON'T BLASHPHEME! (slaps Indy).
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I know the question wasn't directed at me, but here are the things I love about Last Crusade:
-Sean Connery
-The whole beginning with River Phoenix ("Everybody's lost but me!")
-The boat chase
-The fact they were actually searching for the HOLY GRAIL
-EVERYTHING at the Grail site (the trials, the stakes, the immortality, everything)
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TLC is not good because Sean Connery is in it. TLC is good because Sean Connery is AWESOME in it. I normally don't even like him unless he's playing Bond, but this movie was an exception. His delivery of "I'm sorry son, they got us," still makes me chuckle to this day. Oh, and it's also good for all the other reasons I listed. The trials certainly didn't seem like Jeopardy to me. I'm not gonna bash TOD, now, simply because while I do think it has the most flaws, I like the whole series.
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I agree with everything you said (minus "annoying"), only, not sarcastically. I do think that makes him an awesome character. Was he supposed to be some kind of super-dad? He had a great balance of positive (brilliant, quirky, hard-ass) & negative (clueless about his own son, so blindly dedicated to a religious quest), which made him an interesting and complex human being. And "annoying" is all subjective, since I found 2 main characters in TOD far more annoying than Sean Connery in TLC, who I found damn entertaining.
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A trademark of the Indy films is that they are all tongue-in-cheek. To nitpick the historical inaccuracies of these films is to miss the point of the films entirely, is it not? I pose the question with all due respect, you really do have some intelligent insights in your posts.
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Don't be hatin' on Lethal Weapon 2 or I'll have to declare a pencil jihad on you.
Lethal Weapon 2 is awesome.
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Check out all the Master and Commander man-love under Harry's DVD picks for the week.
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he's just still mad because somebody dropped a house on his mother.
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Just throught I should tell you since you're so up on being correct and all.
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M-o-M : AICN Talkbacks as Michael Bay : Movies Just thought I'd stay relevant to something that was discussed here today. Why do you act like you are THE source of all that is correct and good when you're as stubbornly biased as many of the others here?
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Hey Folks! New Poster! Glad to join!
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I'm fucking done with this TB. Enjoy your TB fiefdom, M-o-M. We bow to your greatness!
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ever. Because he already knows the truth about everything.
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You sure you don't mean the third one. Now that was shit sandwich!
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I'm ducking out of here for the mudslinging, but I just wanted to say, it's not just "man-love" for Master and Commander! I unabashedly adore that movie, and said so on the thread along with everyone else. :)
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Because when I saw it recently, my apathy and disgust for the daddy-issues stuff had worn off. I'm not saying it's great or anthing, but at least it wasn't OBNOXIOUS, the way Temple of Doom was. I mean, you could relax while watching it and say "Hey, that wasn't too bad". But with Temple of Doom the thing shouted loudly at you like a retarded child with ADD. Can you forgive the brilliant plan to kill Indy by letting a valuable airplane crash into a mountain? Wow, what a diabolical mastermind, Lao Che was! Hey, Indians like to eat gross stuff, like LIVE snakes! Monkey brains? That's not "verve" that's a childish gross-out. Willie running around being scared by obviously tame animals did not demonstrate "verve". Ceiling fans don't have the power to strangle anyone. Any film that asks us to believe that someone came along and , for no reason, bent the track just before the gap in the track, so that Indy's car would perfectly jump and land on the track past the break, is not showing "verve" but utter contempt for it's audience, which it assumed were 8 to 10 year old boys and too stupid to care. They threw in some sex stuff for the 12 year old boys when Willie and Indy discussed sleeping together, but that's it. So all we have left is Mola Ram and his heart-ripping, and sacrifice by lava, and then Mola Ram retardedly marches himself and Willie and Short Round onto the rope bridge, for NO REASON except that Indy needed him to be there when he cut the ropes to the bridge. It had the "verve" to awkwardly cut to scenes of crocodiles eating things in the river that were supposed to be bad guys, but the cuts were REALLY lazy and awkward. God, I dislike Temple of Doom SOOO much. It's action in the mines, with the kiddies (Ewoks) fighting the slave drivers went on for SO long, with some of John Williams' worst music trying to inject some real tension into it (not Williams' fault, how could anyone have been inspired by that?). Anyway, when I watched Temple and Crusade back to back, Temple annoyed me as much as it had ever done, while Crusade was much more enjoyable than I remembered it.
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or That exactly what M-o-M's parents said about him or Is that your simplistic review of Last Crusade? or "What are the top 3 reasons no one will date M-o-M?"
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Just going for a good-hearted laugh with the "man-love" statement, being it takes place at sea and all. Cheers.
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I can understand. Whenever the main baddie is on screen I want to fucking curl up in a ball and cry. One of the worst villains in action history. I also don't think Riggs needed a permanent love interest. One lady per movie I say!
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How can you suspend disbelief for Raiders and Last Crusade but not Temple of Doom?
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A benchmark of modern cinema.
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I no worries, I meant that pretty tongue-in-cheek, as well. Sometimes the guys here seem to forget that there are female talkbackers, so I like to point it out whenever I can. :)
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At least that's one thing we agree on! Cheers.
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Thanks, I'm not worried about M-o-M. Just enjoying a healthy debate.
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May 14, 2008 5:13:52 PM CDT
i dig it but, it's hard to enjoy anything that involves M-o-M
by puddleglum
Go debate the fuck outta him, though. He gets off on it even more when he doesn't agree with you.
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Why does anyone have to be "right" or "wrong" for liking one more than another? Why disdain ANY of them if you are a true Indiana Jones fan??? I'm just looking for a pretty good, solid argument. I'm waiting.
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I enjoyed the return of Sallah and Marcus. (Marcus' bizarre change of character aside.) I enjoyed the LACK of Willie Scott and the fact that they didn't feel the need to give Indy a romantic interest. (One roll in the hay with a German spy does not a love interest make.) I enjoyed the LACK of slapstick that took me out of Temple of Doom (the thrown sledgehammer hitting the Thuggee in the head, the smoking boots and Indy saying "water...water" only to turn and see a tunnel full of it coming at him, etc.) I enjoyed the tank scene almost as much as the truck chase in Raiders and more than ANY of the action scenes in Temple of Doom.
I'm not saying I didn't like Temple of Doom. I loved that movie, too. It's a non-stop, balls to the wall, full on, action extravaganza from scene one. But I enjoyed the pacing of Last Crusade more, a pacing that reminded me more of Raiders and certainly not in any sort of "pastiche" manner.
But most of all I truly enjoyed Indy's relationship with his father. I felt it humanized his character. And unlike what they did with McClane in Die Hard 4 which was to make him even less human and more SUPER human, I felt that the humbling of Indy when he interacted with his father made me like his character even more. Indy, out of bullets and finally out of ideas on the beach, is genuinely surprised and impressed with his father's ability to take down the German plane with his umbrella. In turn, Henry is so proud of his son when Indy reveals that he found the knight's tomb. The hug they both share when Henry realizes that Indy didn't go over the cliff with the tank. The argument they have about Indy's mother on the motorcycle. The two truly grew to appreciate each other over the course of the movie and I liked that.
On the whole I just enjoyed Last Crusade more. It gives me a warm feeling whenever I watch it. The same kind of feeling I'm picking up from with the Crystal Skull trailers.
I think the exchange with between Indy and his dad when they're being shot at by the planes sums it up nicely:
Henry: These people are trying to kill us!
Indy: I KNOW, Dad!
Henry: This is a new experience for me.
Indy: It happens to me all the time.
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No, you're totally right. I was just responding to his, "don't worry about M-o-M." As I said, I'm not worrying, just enjoying a healthy debate about movies we love, which, as you said, is exactly why we come here.
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Warts an all.
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Met him one. Nice guy. Capitally nice!
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I think it was more of an "out of his element" kinda thing rather than a change of character. Once he was there I think he was just excited to be on an adventure with his friends than stuck at the college.
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Let's just stop the insults and crap, and realize that we all have our own opinions, and that we are all entitled to them no matter how much they may differ from someone else's. I enjoy Michael Bay's films, M-O-M doesn't, and I don't bash him or anyone else with the same opinion, because our views and opinions are what makes us individuals, so let's just talk about movies people!!!
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but the fact is that every one of the regulars around here knows about you and how you operate. You're not fooling us. ANyone who just joined the party can look back at this TB or any of the others you were in (go back a few months or to 2007 since you haven't been around much lately).Just because you're putting on a subtle mask of minor sanity and semi-logical thought today doesn't fool any of us who have been around. On that note, kudos, your therapy must be working!
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So you think I should be uncivil to someone who hasn't said anything rude to me? Yes, we were having a healthy debate. I have no clue what's gone down in the past, and I don't care. The conversation I was having in this thread was a totally civil debate.
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If Satan were an Indy fan, I'd be willing to have a civil debate with him, too. Certainly wouldn't want to piss him off.
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Thank God someone finally took a stand For Temple of Doom.
You Guys are sooo WRONG!!!!. "Temple", In many ways Is an even purer version of the serials its homaging and an even purer version of Raiders. Its a non-stop ride, from James Bond style Indy at the start, It's episodic structure, fast pace all those iconic moments "No one's flying the plane!!", Diner Time, Spike room, Heart rip scene,, Its so 1940's style EC comics Horror Pulp, You could Argue IIt's even closer to the Serials and paperback fiction that inspired it existance in the 1st place!
Also Indiana Jones Is "INDIANA JONES" In this. from his totally badass trade off of the diamond, to his total 24 carrot male chauvinism when he is about to seduce Willy..."years of field work"...He is in the tradition of those 30's/40's film stars - Clarke Gable, Charlton Heston, John Wayne, he'll save the world and probably try and shag your sister (and succeed). But also Temple has great heart to (Indy and Shorty Exchanging Hats, when shorty stops "evil" Indy) and the end, Oh my god!! How fucking bad-ass Is Indiana Jones???!! He risks the lives of A woman and child just so He can Fucking Kill Mola Ram!!! THAT FOLKS, IS THE INDIANA JONES FROM THE CONCEPT PAINTINGS. A total mercenary grave robber alfa male whip cracking superhero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yeah Willy IS annoying but she is a one dimensional High society spoiled bitch ( a art deco Paris Hilton if you will....) So deal with it, she was meant to be that way!!! in total opposition to Marion's two fisted tomboy Character from the first.
So onto "CRUSADE"...... like "return of the Jedi", The film makers Terrified that they went to Dark, Different direction and edgy with second Instalment, End up Re hashing all the elements from the first movie, (Death Star destruction / Nazi's Religious artifact race) As for "CRUSADE" It did'nt have a great pre-movie adventure (Boy scout Indiana Jones?? puurrleez!!) A lot of the set pieces a poor knock offs of Raiders and much of the film takes place in very dull set based rooms and does'nt have the epic cross-continent sweep the previous two seemed to have in spades. It even looks like it was done on a fraction of the budget, The aeroplane sequence, the boat sequence, filmed in Londons docklands, Looks just that. AND THE END...Melting/ageing Nazi, Blah, Blah, Blah..
But You know what I have been unduely harsh. I Love All films, Even their weakest moments stand head and shoulders over any action adventure made today.
I just want this silly hate of TEMPLE OF DOOM to STOP! jUST COS SPIELBERG SAYS ITS HIS LEAST FAVOURITE, YOU ALL JUMP ONT HE BANDWAGON. WELL HE AND YOU MY FRIENDS ARE WRONG. CRUSADE INDY IS A PUSSY. BUT ITS STILL A GREAT FILM.
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Here are two of the ones i think you mean when folks drew the line and started backing TOD kind of like that I AM SPARCATUS scene from the titled movie. http://tinyurl.com/2b5es9 and http://tinyurl.com/3z5b3w
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What do you all think of that, you lot of empty-headed animal food trough water? I'm going to watch them on my video projector 100" screen 7.1 surround system cranked to the maximum babies. I will watch zem, watch zem both. And then next week I will go see a new Indy film and later, get drunk, get stoned, and have sex with a woman person! Ah, yes, it is a foreign concept to many of you this sex, but I assure you it does not compare to the thrills of any given Indiana Jones film. Mark my words, fanbabies, you shall rue the day that, gyahhhhhhh!Ladies and gentleman, it saddens me to inform you that this poster has just been shot with a bullet square in his sphincter hole. Pardon me while I go wipe my bottom. This may take awhile, so please be patient. I shall return.
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They made a Short Round figure! Awesome!
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Guess this TB is finally dead. Good thing to. Twas silly.
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AAAAAAAAAANGEEEEEEER!!!!!!!!
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May 15, 2008 3:08:45 AM CDT
Memories of Murder ... Nostalgia doesn't affect YOUR love for DO
by nodiggity
Are you sure? How old were you when you saw it? Who did you see it with? A lot of the DOOM fans saw it very young, many with their Dads, or something, and it was the very first INDY movie they saw.
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with the exception of a few Talkbackers, this has turned into the memories fan club. But don't worry, I know you, I know you're foul MO, and I know that you are incapable of keeping up the facade. So next time you slip, fucknut, I'm going to nail you to the TB wall, you fucking horrible piece of Eurotrash. And for the record, dirt merchant, I don't bury the hatchet. psuedo-snob means false/phoney snob, and in your case this is la mot juste. You attempt to bandy your gargantuan intellect around, and to set yourself up as some all-knowing arbiter of taste when really you are nothing more than an excrutiating little wank with a man-crush on Shia.
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In my circle of friends it's always RAIDERS vs. CRUSADE (with me fighting for the former while they stick by the latter). I find it frustrating when they insist that CRUSADE is the better film when RAIDERS is clearly superior in every way. It's validating to learn that RAIDERS is considered the de facto standard among TRUE Indy fans. As far as the DOOM vs. CRUSADE argument is concerned, I love both films and find no point in tearing either one apart to defend a simple preference. All three (and hopefully four) films are great and explore different aspects of the Indiana Jones concept and character.
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don't play semantics with me. Especially when English is not your first language. I won't play semantics with you in Portuguese, so do me the same favour. Calling someone Eurotrash is not xenophobia either. It refers to a specific character type, not a race. I could do with a cup of tea, though.
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M-o-M and Jarv going at it like rutting pigs (good to see you can still muster up the old hate, Jarv ;D), a stupid-ass hat debate - IT'S A MOVIE! THE HAT FOLLOWED HIM BECAUSE THE FUCKING COSTUME DEPARTMENT KEPT PICKING IT UP AFTER THE BEARD SHOUTED "CUT!"!!!! - and plenty of offensive language. Loving every minute.
Oh, and Jarv - sorry to see your nemesis has returned. No sign of my TB-stalker Tegujai Batir for ages now, but then there's no gay agenda in Dr Who any more, so what would I argue about with him if he DID return?
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Raiders, Temple, Crusade, Kingdom. Because that is when they were released.
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I'll have the aforementioned cup of tea. Tegujai will return, have no fear. I missed who last weekend, and do not feel bad about this in the slightest as it has all been so "meh".
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I'll type this really clearly: Psuedo-snob, in your case= someone that is both a phoney and a snob- the attempt at condescension is there, but the ability is completely missing- hence fake. Psuedo does not mean false in the way you think it does. This is one of the nuances of the language that you miss.
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Less than a week until I can see this movie and incorporate it into my aggregate experience as a moviegoer and life observer. Only then might I be able to think clearly again...
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I can only pray that no shitheel ruins the experience for me next week...or else face the fury of pencil jihad waged at a scale the human race cannot fathom...
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There is a prince caspian thread,a nd the review has mentioned the Holy Trinity's sacred messenger and bestower of goodness. We have to sabotage it.
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where "Spike" hurls barbs at Wolverine in the woods? I'm kind of like that at the office with my No. 2 pencils. Only I can't grow them spontaneously out of my arm. I have to order them bulk and store them in a quiver. But the throwing technique is more or less the same, although I do incorporate sliders, change-ups and knuckle-pencils, where the pencil achieves a hypnotic eraser-over-point spiral before finding its mark deep in the sternum of an unsuspecting drippywhore shitheel.
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Yeah, I'll probably take my daughter to Caspian, like we did with Lion-Witch. But personally I'm hardly as excited about it as I am over Iron Man / Indy / Bats this summer. One of my professors from Bowling Green State University 15 years ago is apparently a national expert on C.S. Lewis and Narnia. Google Dr. Bruce Edwards.
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I agree that this is a wholly incomprehensible position. Personally, I like Crusade better than Temple but Raiders is hands down the best. Raiders has become a cultural icon and no Indy film will ever beat it.
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As good as Crusade is, the action sequences were not particularly memorable. What's the best stunt in Crusade? You have to kinda think about it for a while. Whereas with Raiders, not only do you get a cool story and the intro of one of cinema's greatest hero's, but you also get a bunch of jawdropping, unforgettable, classic stunt sequences: The hovito temple / boulder escape, the gunfight in Marion's pub, the 'propeller' fight with Pat Roach, the mindblowing truck chase, etc. The intro / train sequence of Young Indy at the beginning of Crusade was sort of cool, but let's face it--we've seen stuff like that before. We've certainly seen things like boat and motorcycle / jeep / tank chases in Bond movies and other action movies. There was nothing much unusual about them. Which isn't to say they weren't fun, they just weren't as mindblowing. Even 'Doom' had cooler action pieces, with the Club Obi Wan exploit, the raft as parachute, the mine car race, the suspension bridge, blah blah blah
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X3 marks the spot.
For talkbacker discontent, that is. Sorry to bring up bad memories. Just wanted to use an analogy for demonstrating pencil jihad. -
May 15, 2008 7:53:00 AM CDT
I waged an inadvertent pencil jihad - have I committed blasphemy
by toadkillerdog
I had an ultra sharp No.2, and I was madly gesticulating - to a co-worker who is not a member of the toadkillerdog fan club, when I inadvertently poked him in the arm. Mumbled half-hearted apologies, quickly backed out of cube before overcome with laughing fit, that would have signaled a fight to the finish.
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is better than raiders. But they're hopeless.
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must be called on all shitheel co-workers who do not accept the authority of the 2true faith. It can get a bit messy, and we're on our 24th new temp in 24 days though. THe guy in purchasing now comes in in a home made Iron suit. He thinks that will protect him! FOOL!
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I would feel better knowing that I acted in good faith, and not breached any protocols.
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apologised. You never apologise for a pencil jihad. A pencil Jihad by its very neature is always righteous.
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He probably did not even hear it, due to his own screaming about 'infections and lawsuits', and begging for polysporin, and cries of 'mommy'
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but it is actively encouraged. Smite your co-worker, and know you hand will be encompassed by the truth and knowledge that is the CoC.
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"gentlemen, theyre both so good."
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The CoC is indeed enlightened. I may start flipping pencils in the air over my cube wallls just to see who screams!
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... drturing for "Indiana Jones and the Unbearable Lightness of Being" - the movie we really wanted Lucas to make.
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May 15, 2008 8:21:24 AM CDT
Flipping pencils over the cube walls to hear the screams of the
by toadkillerdog
It is good brothers.
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It should have said.
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they disperse like mice when they hear the sharpening of a #2 pencil...
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Indiana Jones Day. Free Comic Book Day is also more important to me and my kids than, say, Valentines Day or St. Pats (and we're full Irish). Let all nonbelievers of the sacred day receive a Laddy to the mandible!
I think we can all accept that there are very few movies that surpass Raiders, it is certainly at the paramount (pun) of its genre, and anyone who argues that Doom or Crusade are BETTER are likely spouting blasphemy. Which isn't to say the sequels aren't GOOD. They're just not AS good. NICE TRY LAO CHE!! -
And the eve of May 21st, I will restrict all my speech to retorts like, "Nice try Lao Che," "You know what a cautious fellow I am," "Truck--what truck?" "Adios, Satipo," "He was good. He was very VERY good," "I don't know, I'm making this up as I go," "Are you developing a sense of humor, or am I going DEAF?" "Those aren't big birds sweetheart. They're GIANT VAMPIRE BATS." "Shorty, quit messin' around with that kid!" "You betrayed Shiva...Shiva kut-tay-oh! Prepare to meet KALI...in HELL!"
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A damn fine instrument to reign down death and destruction on the infidel.
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as I wait in line for the midnight show, I'm going to randomly yank people out of line and say "No ticket!" to all the bystanders who look at me like I'm crazy. Which I am.
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and you want something more along the lines of impalement, I use one of these. It's like jousting for infidels...
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appropriate ammunition must be used. This is how Burt taught us. In an office situation, anything from the supply cupboard (with the exception of erasers- unless you can get really creative) is totally deemed appropriate. I have had much success with a paperclip and an elastic band.
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I shall furnish them to all, including brother TKD, and they shall truly know the magnificense that is the Changian way. Unfortunately it is taking me a long time to complete as work are being very difficult, nay truly cuntish, and I need my salary to buy Attack Packs.
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they can be insane, but are never dull.
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That seems to be the nuclear scorched office option.
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have been used to great effect (I'm talking the wireless ones). Also, do not dismiss the power of a stapler.Abom, is that the T-1000 model? I broke mine while impaling a customer service rep who was taking too long to decide what to have at the cafeteria. I still don't agree with the "HR sitdown" I had....
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A MRV in my office cupboard! I can reign down multiple death and destruction on the infidel with a single launch MRV! The joys of infidel smiting are truly without peer!
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I recommend the new album by Asia, "Phoenix." Asia first got together in 1981, which is the year Raiders was released. There, back on topic. Proceed.
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I sneak into the ladies toilet and sellotape copies of M-O-M's post of May 14th, 2008
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toad...You will *know* when you have found the proper instrument of destruction for the non-believers...
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Have I blasphemed again asking who Burt is?
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I recommend buying any Coldplay album. If you need an ashtray, or Shuan of the Dead style weaponry, but for the love of Ash don't listen to it. That can cause brain damage, cancer and stunt your growth
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Burt Gummer appears in the "Tremors" movies. He's played by Michael Gross (the dad from "Family Ties"). He is an expert tactician and firearms specialist. If you watch the "Tremors" films, you will learn many things about being a man, from Kevin Bacon, Fred Ward--and Michael Gross. Gummer is the only main hero in all the Tremor movies. In the fourth installment, he plays an ancestor version of himself, Hiram Gummer, who must learn the ways of Manhood in the Church of Chang in order to defeat Graboids.
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That was the first post I read of MOM, where I could tell English was not his first language. Does he filter his posts through some type of translator? Did it break the last time? Most of his others posts have little in the way sunyax errors that would indicate he is not a native English speaker. Very strange.
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Gummer, or Earl Basset, or Tremors at Stampede entertainment and find what you need to know. Or do a wiki search on Burt Gummer, or simply visit here and be amazed...
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He laughably thinks he has better English than me, DocP (Who he patronisingly dismisses with "I learnt my English from a native"), and pretty much every other poster. On a different note, I just had a look at that Rumsfeld Tb and saw this: "I am easily one of the smartest people on these boards". From BraneRobot. How funny.
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in a disgusting, disturbing, sickening way.
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You get to choose your 'angel' as to whom you will pattern your life after. As you can tell, I've chosen Ash as my 'sponsor'. I've become adept at using a chainsaw as a weapon, though I haven't gone so far as to lop of my hand...yet.
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Fu Yien Chang: Mr Gummer, I fixed your wheel.
Hiram Gummer: Impossible, it's a complete loss.
Fu Yien Chang: Nope.
Hiram Gummer: Well I... my that's remarkable. Thank You. Thank You very much.
Fu Yien Chang: That'll be five dollars please.
Hiram Gummer: Now listen here, no workman would dare ask more than two bits.
Fu Yien Chang: I'm the only wheel fixer in town! No one else till Carson City.
Hiram Gummer: That's highway robbery.
Fu Yien Chang: A word of advice, Mr Gummer. Anyone can be taken advantage of. And if you can, do.
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in Tremors 2 when he blames the collapse of communism for his Divorce from the virgin Reba.
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the .07 mm mechanical pencil...the jericho missile of leaden death from above.
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but didn't Hiram Gummer first tell the kid that lesson about taking advantage of people? Remember when he promised the kid some bread if the kid did something, but then Gummer ate the kid's bread anyway? Scha-weet.
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So much wisdom, and only one measly lifetime to absorb it all. And we haven't even got on to the contributions of Ash and Kurt.
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and I don't mean the WMD type of intelligence.
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for a changian TB? We must be in with a good shout of beating it with this one. Could have been bears, SATC, or the first church one. I'm not sure.
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to do some poster art for Tremors 5. The movie's not done yet; Kloipy is still working on the script. But I need to see some Struzan versions of Burt and Earl, like 10 years ago.
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Didn't we have like 1,600 posts?Braneballs makes me throw up in my mouth a little bit each time...
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I don't think I've ever seen you slap someone as badly as that. Including Braffed.
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It'll never sink into that creature's skull. Trolls are one thing, harmless creatures who permeate the boards. It's another when someone spouts such anger and hatred towards people like Braneballs. It is a disease.
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Truly, he is a shitheel.
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He probably just did his usual shit of not confronting any points made, and then just calling everyone a liberal shithead. Nonetheless, he is the most intelligent one on these boards...heh-heh...
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Reasonable news, dreadful reviews. Unless you think Emmerich is worth an average of 3 1/2* for a body of work that includes The Patriot, ID4, The Day After Tomorrow, Universal Soldier and others.
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why did you have to bring me into it again? I thought we were at a truce...no?
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Not starting up again. And if you note, I did not call you a troll.
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one of the worst films I've ever seen.
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I was the one who suggested that the Raiders stunts rule. I'm not disagreeing that Crusade didn't have cool set pieces; I just liked Raiders more and yeah, I think those are the ones that even "lay people" (non-geeks) remember most. And the bridge from ToD. Shit, I wish there were bridges like that in my town. You know, so I could cut them.
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I'll have to check outta here soon. I'm going to see my doctor about not smoking any more, so he can yell at me for NOT not smoking, which I wasn't supposed to do (smoke anymore). And when he asks, "Why haven't you quit?" I'll tell him, NICE TRY, LAO CHE!! (actually, it's Dr. Hasan) then I'll bolt out of the office and down the hallway, leaping copiers and gurneys in my path.
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A lot of my hatred for the patriot is that I'm English and Mel elevating a slave owning rapist to hero status pissed me right off. And I fucking despise transformers. Empire do not understand their own star system- the worst example is still the Star Wars PRequels where they gave AOTC 5* because they'd given TPM 4. Stupidest reason for a rating I've ever seen.
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throttle the do-gooder with his stethoscope.
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they had to change his name- because the actual guy (although a great guerilla warrior) was a fucking complete lowlife. I think they should have had the balls to show him as a scumbag of his times.
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in a shitty sleazy way. Dolph is underrated.
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It's a horrible, stupid film, and if you're going to make one of those you should at least have the decency to throw in a nude silver guy on a surf board or a hilarious homicidal leprechaun or somesuch.I don't mind Emmerich, but only when he's at his dumbest. Independence Day being his masterpiece of Dumbhouse, of course, or that one where Jake Gyllenhaal was running away from weather.Anyone got any thoughts on 10,000 BC? I haven't seen it yet, but I get the feeling it could be pretty funny.
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this is fundamentally dishonest. And I'm not generalising. I'm talking about the man it was based on. I also think it is full of bad acting, DREADFUL writing, more cliches than you can shake a shitty stick at, and didn't find it exciting. I'd call it a feature length pantomime. This is a very, very typical non-American reaction to it.
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I've got that good bad feeling with 10,000 BC. The reviews seemed to hold such promise for silliness.Oh, and I finally caught Slither last night. It in no way came close to matching Night of the Creeps, sadly. Not that it wasn't entertaining, but clearly it wasn't stupid enough.
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That's right, The Thing, as brought to you by John Carpenter, stands in with that slew of cinema golden greats from the '75-'85 era. The Patriot I saw once, and it's just silly. When will the Revolutionary War be done proper on film? And I think Transformers was silly. When will giant robots be done proper on film? They certainly got shapeshifting aliens done proper, and that was over 20 years ago. Just don't make no sense.
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And on Emmerich v Bay- Bay's worst is worse than Emmerich's, but Bay's best is also better. It's a fucking tough call, but I think I'd rather watch The Rock over anything Emmerich has done. And I also think I'd rather watch anything Emmerich has done (even Godzilla) over Pearl Harbour. Not easy when you are at that level of suckitude.
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No matter how stupid Roland's movies are, they are much more entertaining for me than Bay's. I wasn't crazy about the Patriot, but I would most certainly watch that than any of Bay's movies.
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You're right there. Pretty enjoyable in it's own way, though.On a similar theme, have you seen the full length Planet Terror? I thought it was actually pretty damn good, and more enjoyable than Death Proof. Rodriguez did a solid job of capturing the feel of those eighties video exploitationers I remember from my teen days. He overdid it a bit with all that scratchy/grainy melarkey, but otherwise I liked it more than I expected to.
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And what about the fact that it is pretty much a straight rip off of Braveheart (except without being half as good)? I was going to say Heath Ledger was shit in it as well, but he wasn't. He was average. Mel was pretty bad.
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I'll have to eventually check it out then. I do have to say that I like Nathan Fillion, and really needs to be in more films like Slither and Serenity. Maybe more films that being with 'S'.
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here. I'd have gone. I'd have also regretted it. And Planet Terror lubes up DeathProof and fucks it right up the arse. Deathproof- HOW COULD YOU DO THAT TO OUR KURT, TARANTINO YOU CUNT, HOW? It makes me so fucking angry
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It's a long time since I've seen it and all I can remember is that, at the time, I thought it was a horrible, stupid film. I accept your disagreement in good faith.As a side note, I went to Wikipedia to refresh my memory of The Patriot a little (too long to read it all, can't be bothered) and the best I got was a nice little chuckle. Someone has edited the listing to say: Benjamin Martin (Mel Gibson) The GAY BUTT PIRATE. Seriously, all in capitals like that. Childish, I know, but I laughed all the same.
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and rammed with shitty, hackneyed cliches? fuck me, every character in it comes from the moron's book of scriptwriting. It is not a good film. We'll agree to differ though as I'm leaving work. Slither was also not good- not even in a so-bad-it's-good-way and I'll tell you why tomorrow. Although Fillon was funny.
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jpt - Planet Terror is well worth a go when approached with the right spirit. People kept talking about it as a tribute to John Carpenter (and there's an element of that), but I thought it was more reminiscent of stuff like Night Of The Creeps, Return Of The Living Dead, and Class Of Nuke 'Em High. If you liked those, Planet Terror works as an enjoyable tribute. Also, if you like Fillion, how in god's name have you not checked out Firefly?Jarv - Tarantino did let Kurt down, I think. I liked the character (especially during the first half), but what the fuck happened in the second half? He was hardly in it. A real disappointment, that one.
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But Russell's character was the thing I liked most about the film, so I kind of missed him during the second section. It didn't help that the girls in the second half were a little too annoying (and not at all sympathetic), so it felt like a potentially cool character was at first ignored and then, out of nowhere, turned into a ridiculous cry-baby.It's a shame about Death Proof, because I like the first half a lot. Russell did a great job of being cool and yet also creepy and kind of pathetic. But I slowly lost interest in the film during the second half.
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But I certainly enjoyed Serenity.
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You owe it to yourself to give Firefly a go. Well worth a watch, especially for Fillion, Adam Baldwin, and the utterly adorable Jewel Staite. It's a bittersweet experience, what with the cancellation and all, but worth it, I reckon.
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Does sci-fi ever broadcast them, what 12 episodes or so? And I do have to admit that he's got some hot chicks in his crew. As Captain, I would have to sample all of them...for the good of the ship of course.
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Well if the series was like the movie, then I would definitely enjoy it. Finding a good sci-fi show is priceless, and if it's as good as you guys say it was, then that makes me very sad. I don't understand why, say Sci-fi, wouldn't pick it up? Budget constraints? Because clearly the shit they put out sucks ass (I'm excluding Battlestar Galactica, which has a huge following. I was never able to get into it..).
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I never saw it on the telly (borrowed the box set from a friend), and I don't know too much about where it's shown.Sorry, buddy.As for samples... too right. Jewel Staite, Mrs Fishburne, Morena Baccarin, and even Summer Glau, who is hot in a 'possibly half a re-re' way. Also, Fillion's character accidentally marries a smoking hot evil redhead. Who doesn't love a smoking hot evil redhead?
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Nothing can touch it. Nothing.
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FUCK, I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS MYSELF!
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Having administered my first pencil jihad against a co-worker, with a Papermate classic HB 2, and subsequently gaining enlightenment on all that is Burt, I have been inducted into the CoC. Jarv, is indeed working on the holy scriptures, but has been interrupted by the foul exigencies of his salaried position. We can only await the Word.
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for me are:
1.TOD Bridge Scene- humor, badassery, awesomeness, heart pumping all wrapped into one.
2.Raiders opening- logo turns into mountain with lowly plebes trekking thru jungle with that awesome suspenseful music playing
3.TOD opening- Jones appears in white tux and red rose just like Bond in Goldfinger's opening, musical, fight, car chase, airplane, snow-sledding, cliff jump, holy shit! whta an opening -
You Guys are sooo WRONG!!!!. "Temple", In many ways Is an even purer version of the serials its homaging and an even purer version of Raiders. Its a non-stop ride, from James Bond style Indy at the start, It's episodic structure, fast pace all those iconic moments "No one's flying the plane!!", Diner Time, Spike room, Heart rip scene,, Its so 1940's style EC comics Horror Pulp, You could Argue IIt's even closer to the Serials and paperback fiction that inspired it existance in the 1st place!
Also Indiana Jones Is "INDIANA JONES" In this. from his totally badass trade off of the diamond, to his total 24 carrot male chauvinism when he is about to seduce Willy..."years of field work"...He is in the tradition of those 30's/40's film stars - Clarke Gable, Charlton Heston, John Wayne, he'll save the world and probably try and shag your sister (and succeed). But also Temple has great heart to (Indy and Shorty Exchanging Hats, when shorty stops "evil" Indy) and the end, Oh my god!! How fucking bad-ass Is Indiana Jones???!! He risks the lives of A woman and child just so He can Fucking Kill Mola Ram!!! THAT FOLKS, IS THE INDIANA JONES FROM THE CONCEPT PAINTINGS. A total mercenary grave robber alfa male whip cracking superhero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And yeah Willy IS annoying but she is a one dimensional High society spoiled bitch ( a art deco Paris Hilton if you will....) So deal with it, she was meant to be that way!!! in total opposition to Marion's two fisted tomboy Character from the first.
So onto "CRUSADE"...... like "return of the Jedi", The film makers Terrified that they went to Dark, Different direction and edgy with second Instalment, End up Re hashing all the elements from the first movie, (Death Star destruction / Nazi's Religious artifact race) As for "CRUSADE" It did'nt have a great pre-movie adventure (Boy scout Indiana Jones?? puurrleez!!) A lot of the set pieces a poor knock offs of Raiders and much of the film takes place in very dull set based rooms and does'nt have the epic cross-continent sweep the previous two seemed to have in spades. It even looks like it was done on a fraction of the budget, The aeroplane sequence, the boat sequence, filmed in Londons docklands, Looks just that. AND THE END...Melting/ageing Nazi, Blah, Blah, Blah..
But You know what I have been unduely harsh. I Love All films, Even their weakest moments stand head and shoulders over any action adventure made today.
I just want this silly hate of TEMPLE OF DOOM to STOP! jUST COS SPIELBERG SAYS ITS HIS LEAST FAVOURITE, YOU ALL JUMP ONT HE BANDWAGON. WELL HE AND YOU MY FRIENDS ARE WRONG. CRUSADE INDY IS A PUSSY. BUT ITS STILL A GREAT FILM.
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anm email in the zone- and I'll send you the early one, the later one is still mired in development hell. (I've always wanted to say that), and it is unlikely to be resolved until half term when I have a whole load of uninterrupted time. (Joys of working in Education)
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...but so is LAST CRUSADE. It has the wittiest and most quotable dialog of the trilogy (Kasdan's dialog in RAIDERS is also outstanding, but is stylistically different than what appears in CRUSADE). Just listen to any of the banter between Ford and Connery: Henry: "I'm as human as the next man." Indiana: "Dad, I WAS the next man." Also: Henry: "These people are trying to kill us!" Indiana: "I know, Dad! Henry: "This is a new experience for me." Indiana: "It happens to me all the time." The dialog scenes are just as thrilling as the action-packed ones due to Spielberg's expert staging and direction. In addition to being funny, the dialog also gives great insight into the relationship between Henry and Indiana (isn't dialog meant to reveal character as well as entertain?) and speaks to the relationship between a father and son in general. This funny (and truthful) dynamic between is what makes CRUSADE heartfelt and moving in a way that both RAIDERS and DOOM were not.
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...let my armies be the rocks and the trees and the birds in the sky.
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Apparently, Tom Stoppard did a polish on the dialog which sufficiently explains the level of quality. The way I see it, RAIDERS has the best balance (action, humor, etc.) and is the best overall film. DOOM has the best action sequences (Spielberg was firing on all cylinders). And CRUSADE has the best humor and the most heart (that final shot of the Knight waving to Henry as the temple collapses gets me every time).
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Damn you to hell! In other news: Temple of Boredoom sucked. Heavily.
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I think Crusade is probably the eakest of the 3 in some ways...But its still a really good movie, much better than some of the rubbish thats out there or was at the time.
Some people think the humour is not very good in this film, I love it, so many good moments, like charelmagne above, or the plane going by in the tunnel. I just loved the interaction between Ford and Connery, some people dont, I loved it.
Doom... I hate willie scott a lot in this movie, but in some ways the action and patter is right on in this film,I just think the McGuffin is not great in Doom.
Probelm is, they did the Ark of the Covenant first, you dont really get any better than that, its probably the most desired archeological artifact known to man, what else is there in real world, the grail is probably quite big one, who has ever heard of Sankara stones?
Skull... well reality is they are just more modern than they were initially claimed to be, not much mystery there, but its how they tell it in the story.
Aliens I agree with some that this is more plausible in some ways than Gods radio box in Raiders, but it depends on your rel;igious views I suppose, me being an atheist doesnt amke me think that the ark story is silly, Indy Jones is not real life.
Even as an atheist I admit that religions and beliefs are still probably the greatest stories ever told.
Aliens...Hell no one minds in SW, MIB, CETK, ID4 etc etc. So why mind in Indiana Jones. I acvtually quite like the idea, what else would they ahve done?
Can anyone here as we are all such great screen writers think of anything that would have been better as the McGuffin set in Indian Jones Circa 1950's, then let us know?
The flim may be rank for all I know, all I have seen is the trailers, but I have looked forward to this more tha anything other than SW prequels in last 20 years. Yeah...they were not as good aswe all wanted them to be, but if I was George Lucas and it was my imiagination that came up with SW, I would do my own thing as well, if we dont like it, well thats just too bad. I did not dislike them, just did not have the same affection as I did for original Trilogy, still better than ID4 or MIB or any of that shat IMO.
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eh? *puts on best hooligan voice* COME AND HAVE A GO IF YOU THINK YOU'RE HARD ENOUGH Yes, I am bored
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1) Kurt in Deathproof: This is Snake Plissken, Jack Burton, Mac, and no end of other badasses made into a crying little ingrate bitch that gets his arse handed to him by WOMEN. THIS IS NOT OUR KURT. Kurt is a badass and one of the ambassadors of the one 2true faith. I will not see his arse kicked by 3 annoying, pretentious cows that talk utter shite, before leaving their friend to be raped and murdered by a banjo playing redneck so they can play silly buggers with a muscle car. Outrageous. Deathproof is a terrible film that proves once and for all that Tarantino cannot write for women.2)Slither. Complete crap- it's a shame, because they got it tonally right- it is gloriously po-faced, but the monster wasn't shit enough, the psuedo-orgasming with the tentacles is embarrasing, and if you are going to show a nekkid chick getting terrorised in the bath by worm things, then show her TITS. This is not hard. And worms are rubbish. Even leech-like worms. 3)Changian TB's are the best. I feel it necessary to convert Brother Danny- despite liking the patriot.
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That is the word I am looking for. Kurt in Deathproof was emasculated- THIS IS NOT OUR KURT
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I will drop you a line in the Zone for a copy of the Word
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The one I've got at the moment is a bit behind the one I hide at home (It's too big to hide on the system at work), but I'll sling it to you anyway
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I could not find a Lost Jarv
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That will lead you to salvation toad...
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Not on the boards or home page
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I have sinned!
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http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36744
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Your training is incomplete....
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I have not received it yet.
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use this tool, and you will open doors that have been closed to you before....http://www.aintitcool.com/tracker
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Because the Zone won't let you send documents. And my stupid PDF converter is taking ages as well. Basically, when I took this old one out of work, I emailed it to myself and then deleted all tracks of it incase the unbelievers found it and scourged me for my beliefs. Although I'm pretty certain that's against some article of the European Convention on Human Rights. Anyhoo- it's the old version, as I tend to just do a couple of parables on the sly (and collected from TB's) and then take them home to fit in the new one. It's getting quite unweildy now, but so much material keeps appearing.
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So I'm sure the section on infidels and shitheels has expanded ten fold...
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where the fuck is the PDF-stupid fucking cyberspace. Just 'cos I don't want to die of old age waiting for it to upload. Annoying beyond belief.
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Thanks for the lin JPT, I have indeed been further enlightened.
Jarv, I sent you a PM
What does pwned mean? I keep seeing that. I am assuming it is some sort of ' I own you' short hand. It also seems to be derided as childish on this site. Please explain. -
We must expand our pencil jihad into cyberspace, and destroy slow servers and whatnot. Totally unacceptable.
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The guy who came up with that first needs a smack up side his head, fucking fraggle.
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You sound like a Rangers fan in Manchester, hooligan indeed.
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over his devoted warciple Jarv in any contest of wills skull...You have been warned.
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Sorry about the reference. True, profanity is a prerequisite for acceptance here.
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Indy day is getting close, and I'm consciously avoided articles online and on the newstand that might tell me more about "Skull" than I want to know. Yesterday my daughter received a kids' LEGO catalog, and even THAT depicted a new line of toys based on the film, along with a comic strip that I could tell was based on the storyline and certain plot devices. SPOILER One Hint: amphibious vehicle. I can't wait to just see the movie. It could be the worst of the series, and I'll still love it. I just want to see it so I can get past it and regain focus again, because I tend to geek out when a cool geek "event" movie comes along. And after 19 years, Indy certainly qualifies. Hell, they could have made this two years after "Crusade" and it still would have qualified as an anticipated event movie. I'm rambling now.
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What part would Connery have had in Skull if he had agrred to do one more film do you think?
Yes...Indiana's Da, thats not what I mean, would they have rewritten it to give him a small cameo or a bigger part on the quest?
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It's been sent, I couldn't resist the warciple email address when I found it was available.
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enjoy the sacred scrolls with your favorite coffee or alcohol beverage. Don't be surprised if a hole spontaneously opens in your roof as you read, and brilliant light shines down upon you from the heavens.
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You *can* make it to next week Abom...So I was able to get my wife to watch the original War of the Worlds with me last night, and she came to the conclusion that the original was better than Steve and Tom's....heh-heh...I've also gotten her to watch Beast from 20,000 fathoms, but alas, she felt At the Earth's Core was "too silly". I don't see why, when that's the exact point of watching such fare....
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"Nerdish word created and readily used by people that get kicks out of flaming chat areas with poor spelling and/or bad typing errors. Sadly, typing "pwnd" gives them a greater sense of achievement over typing "owned"." I'm being ironic when I use it, as I find that kind of thing embarrassing. I only ever use it on assholes like Branecell.
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Abuse that power most unwisely...
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It's just as well Connery isn't in it. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy, but George and Steve may have used to cameo to kill of Henry Sr. in some maudlin scene designed to intentionally pull heartstrings.
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Agreed
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Whilst I was on quota time she sabotaged the Lovefilm list. Occasionally something good does get through- Day of The Dead is coming today, but Less Than Zero (stupidest fucking title for anything, ever) is also coming. I'm gutted, because I'd priority listed classics like Hawk the Slayer and now I have to wait. Mostly because I can't remember the stupid password to the damn thing.
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you will probably have attained the power of invisibility at will
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May 16, 2008 7:46:14 AM CDT
such is the ongoing battle with lovefilm, netflix, etc
by just pillow talk
when the significant other CLEARLY has inferior movie tastes...
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Now come on, when has he ever done that (every fucking film since Jaws)?
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Perhaps, think it would ahve been better to just ahve him be there at the beginning for one secene, but is clearly too old to go adventuring.
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being immersed in the "grand vision" of the holy trinity. I'll have to fedex a package of pencils to toad. I don't even need to know his address and the package will find him, guided by the will of the CoC.
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One film was enough. The focus should be on Indy.
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you may notice significant growth in the Stache area. heh.
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anyone remember that from the 80's, I loved it as a kid, watched it recently and it just was not the same.
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go and visit him in an old age home and feet him tapioca pudding with a plastic spoon, change his colostomy bag and then sit him down in front of wheel of fortune. No, it's much better that he isn't in it.
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pah, I'm undecided as to whether or not it's funnier than Deathstalker though.
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Yeah, but a small cameo would ahve been ok I think, then the focus is still on Indy and his son.
Its ironic how Indy hated his dad for years and yet his dad was alwasy there for him, just very old fashioned and strict.
Indy just feks off and leaves his son till he is old enough to come on adventures with him.
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"That'sshh for blasshhphemy!"
Yeah, I agree pillow the movie should focus on Indy, with a little emphasis on his age, and the passage of time (like Rocky Balboa did pretty well, without embarrassing the actor or the character (IMO)). If Connery were to appear, the only way they could have made a dignified cameo is to have him killed off right away, like a Highlander beheading. Then Indy could run around whipping and shooting people saying, "Jesus, I'm pissed now." -
If a grown-up Short Round appeared, and beat up Shia. Just because.
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Cant remember seeing that one?
Dont know how i missed it.
This guy who was well dodgy used to come round our street renting out pirate videos from the back of his motor in the early 80's we used to get all those cheesy 80's action movies, cos I loved them? -
Was the best 80's cheap action movie. Best one liners ever, that movie sums up what was great about Ahnuld. John Matrix, Hardest man in movie history
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*sigh* Britain in the 80's. A more simple time.
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Indy day indeed will be a festive occasion.
I am recalling how I felt at the premieres of big movies in my lifetime. I saw Jaws and Star Wars in the theater - at tender ages, and I remember the enormous buzz surrounding them. What may surprise the younger crowd is that Jaws was the first summer blockbuster, and the first movie I recall that had the entire country buzzing - and avoiding the beaches - not kidding. For quite a while beach traffic dried up as shark hysteria was unleashed. Star wars, on the other hand, built slowly, I remember the first time i saw it, the theater was mostly empty- but it did grow into a phenomenon that I have yet to see duplicated. Close Encounters, was massively hyped, because it came after the success of Star wars and was by the director of Jaws. I liked it, but felt let down that the big effects had no warring spaceships.Superman was hyped for two years before it bowed. I believed a man could fly, but I also believed that a movie could be too long and boring. Star Trek the movie, had a big build up, and enormous expectations. It failed miserably. The 'bigger is always worse' argument had a new standard. Although Empire was the best, Return of the Jedi got the most hype - because it was the 'last' of the three. Time magazine, Newsweek, etc. I enjoyed saying 'goodbye' to the characters. One note, Empire, as great as it was, truly ticked people off, because SPOILER, Han Solo was frozen and the movie ended, and it would be three long years before Jedi. Raiders was enormously hyped - because it was a throwback to serial action flicks, and starred Ford, who was the biggest star at the time, and teamed the two most powerful and richest directors/producers in hollywood. It was awesome, and totally delivered! Batman -89, was massively hyped -and it was the first movie, outside of Rocky Horror, that I saw a midnight screening of. Huge debates about Keaton being miscast, and the 60 million bucks Jack earned (part of profit) The last mega hyped movie I recall was Phantom Menace. Enough said about that - but I did enjoy the pod race! -
I was only 7-9 years old between 1977-79. I recall being taken to the movies to see "Superman" and "Close Encounters" and though I liked them, I also distinctly remember being bored in spots, because there were parts in there that are just too long for kids. With "Close Encounters," the entire concept probably went over my head at the time. Much the same way an alien ship went over Neary's truck as he sat at the railroad crossing. Of course now I love both movies, esp CEOT3K
For me, seeing "Raiders" at the cinema was cool because I had NO IDEA what is was about. I only knew, hey--it's the guy from Star Wars! Walking in cold, and being ten years old, I was doubly blown away. -
I stand in awe of your achievement with the scared scrolls. I have only read the first few chapters, but already I have gained the power of remote control over all No 2 pencils within a 50 cubicle radius! I have unleashed office wide pencil jihad!
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I am sure that the little snowcones will be in for the same great movie memories we had at the premieres.
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Damn dyslexia!
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I think Tarantino fucked up the writing with Stuntman Mike more than with the girls (although the second batch were painfully annoying). QT gives him a scene in the first half (where he has the balls to cooly elicit a lapdance from a hot chick who clearly doesn't want to do it) and then casually turns him into a one-note cry-baby joke in the second half. Stupid, stupid, stupid. I would have bought it if he'd bothered to write some sort of progression in the character, but he turns from badass to wimp after, what, one bump from another car? Are we really supposed to believe he never anticipated anyone fighting back? It also robs the women of any real acheivement, since they didn't actually break him down - the writer just contrived to turn him into a weiner.Anyway, a week to go until (hopefully) we get a slice of Indy goodness. My expectations are still low, but the Summer got off to a great start with Iron Man and I hope it continues.
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I was only 8 or so at the time, so that movie completely bored the shit out of me, even though I was familiar with the characters from reruns of the TV series. It was just too slow. But again, now I really like that movie. My favorite Star Trek after II and IV
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I only like II and VI.
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Yep, I make a point of taking my daughter to all the cool movies, as long as they're age-appropriate. I also take her to some movies that I think she'd like, but I really didn't know anything about going in (like Spiderwick, Golden Compass, etc). So we'll likely be seeing Narnia together next week, and definitely Indy (but I'll have seen that one already at a midnight show). She enjoyed Iron Man. Although I told her that Tony merely stunned those human-shield terrorists with "knockout darts" and didn't actually shoot them dead.
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I have a friend who's nuts about it (all versions) and he's always trying to get me to watch an episode or film or whathaveyou. It's not that I hate it - it just bounces right off me. No reaction at all.I remember my parents taking me to see the first Star Trek film (I was loony for Star Wars at the time) and I, also, was bored to tears by it.
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Switched the telly on when I got home and the first thing I saw was a trailer for Five's big film this weekend - The Patriot!I'll probably end up watching it, too, just to see if it's as bad as I remember. Or maybe Mr Dickblood is right. Maybe it's a misunderstood masterpiece...
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but when you need to replace the actress who played Saavik (Kirstie Allie) in a part that is fairly significant to the plot, it IS a big deal and fans won't like it (I didn't). And the movie did seem pretty campy. Christopher Lloyd was good. And I have to give the writers props for having the balls to 1) kill David and 2) DESTROY THE ENTERPRISE. Although I suspect they didn't have to debate much to kill off David, because that's what drives Kirk in the latter half of the film. Overall though, III lacks the power of II, which was great
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As for Star Trek the motion picture, well, I was slightly older than you at the time, and I was a big fan of the series because I saw it in reruns for years - and was proud that I was one of the first in my school to be a huge fan of the show before it really took off after syndication. I was not only bored by the movie, I hated what they did to the characters. Bigger is truly not always better. And as much as I liked a bald-headed Persis Khambatta, I thought that adding so many new characters really detracted from the movie and the characters we had grown up with. But that could have been overcome, except for the truly bone-headed mistake of trying to cater to the hardcore TV crowd by making a 'message' movie instead of an adventure movie. i.e. no big fights - not fights at all. In the wake of Star Wars - which was why the movie was greenlighted, and given the enormous budget and build-up, to turn in that boring of a movie - reminds me of (close your eyes Jarv) Superman Returns.
Wrath of Khan, is one of my all time favorites, so at least the got the ship (pun intended) righted. -
Rewatching the original ST movie, I appreciate it a lot more, but it's still problematic in that the two main people are Ilea and the new Enterprise captain (Steven Collins, or whatever his name was). They both did really well, I thought--but the problem is it left Kirk and Spock somewhat detached from the, uh, macguffin of the movie. And in the end, it's Ilea and Collins who merge to "complete" VGER, leaving our favorite Trek heroes in frankly, not a whole lot of jeopardy. At least, not palpable imminent jeopardy. They just stand around VGER, acting more or less as a greek chorus, a la "It wants to be more HUMAN...it needs to be COMPLETE..." Kirk and the others weren't personally involved in the thrust of the story, I guess is what I'm saying. I guess it really was a BRILLIANT idea to bring back a near-forgotten villain from the show (Khan) for the sequel, because you can't get much more personal than revenge
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The Patriot is laughable, but in a good way I think. Mel does do his Braveheart thing by hacking Redcoats left and right, and the main villain is quite cartoony.
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because Khan represents everything done right.
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I am not surprised by your reaction. For me, when I discovered Star Trek - in reruns, it was the first space, science fiction show, I ever saw. So, naturally it became my favorite. I was too young at the time to understand the social nuance, but i knew what I liked. It was not all about action either, it was the characters. They were distinct. That, in major part is why the first movie was bad. I have not watched it in a long time, maybe I will -on some boring rainy day, give it another shot.
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I can't honestly say any of his films are that good, but I've enjoyed most of them. I'd rather my entertainment wasn't stupid, but if it has to be, you can usually count on Emmerich to do a good job with it. That's why my hopes are high for 10,000 BC. It just looks fucked-up stupid. Renny Harlin stupid.Still, I don't remember too much about The Patriot other than I didn't enjoy it. Ah, what the hell else am I going to do on a Sunday evening? Of course I'm going to watch it.Jesus, I have to get a life...
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A six foot six inch cow in England!
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Next up, he will be attempting to unify the heavyweight division. Since Audley Harrison has so pitifully pissed away his chance at the big time, he is to be replaced by Chilli the six foot cow, a placid beast with explosive power in both fists.You are the new queen of our hearts, Chilli!
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Farmer Stan.
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Clearly..which of the other wimps in the HW division could knock out a cow man?
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Silliness can conquer all.Tis a shame I'm not home today, as it is a rainy, shitty day out, and would be a perfect 'cheese' day to watch Them!....
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Come on, every good fight fan knows cows are not permitted to use their rear hooves in championship matches. It just wouldn't be fair!
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The Bates has been spotted in England? British citizens, high alert! high alert! Run for your lives! There is no stopping The Bates! Even pencil jihad cannot stop....it!
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Cirian is decsribed as ' A cow that walks like a woman'.
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And all I have to look forward to tonight (since I am broke and not joing in with the drunkening) is a VHS tape with Intolerable Cruelty on it. Intolerable Cruelty! The only blot on the Coen's record. They should have known no good would come from working with Catherine Zeta-Jones. She is evil, pure and simple. Evil.
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Frankie, that's all you have? There must be something else that you can watch if you will not be partaking in the intake of adult beverages? Surely you have something else lying around that can give you a few chuckles?
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It's a warm up match, of course, but I reckon it'll be worth a watch. Giant cow Vs demented wrestling director. Who will emerge victorious?
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I think its shit boring, apart from Khan alone, because that was what Star Trek should have been like every film?
I hated TNG, I rather enjoyed DS9 simply because it had an angoing storyline, and was generally about more than one ship, it was about the Alpha quadrant in general. But then Trekkies dont like that one... go figure.
The only things that left me mesmerised by their brilliance as a kid for me were SW, Jaws and Indy, and the only ones that as an adult I could re watch and actually like them better, unlike Romancing the Stone for example, loved it pre teenager, a bit boring now.
Only film I have watched (Action big budget film) since Crusade that captured my attention like those ws Batman Begins, fucking love that movie, so yu can imagine I am pumped for this years movies.
as a huge SW fan I was salivating like everyone else for TPM, it let me a down a little, AOTC was total gash in some l;aces and some things were good, ROTS almost reddemed AOTC because I actually realy enjoy Sith, but overall they were not the second coming I think we were all hoping for
I think what Lucas got wrong, was that with TPM he tried to get a new kids audience, but when you ahve so many fans already who are all now adult, he should have went a bit harder edged with all the prequels.
But Indy, if they do it just like they did with the others will always work, its actuallt quite a difficult thing to bugger up, thats why I can understand some of the pre movie criticism, even a shitty director, if they were allowed to use Ford, the Whip, the Hat and use Williams score, would probably make a decent movie, because the foundations are so strong and the character is one of the best ever created.
So I am pumped and will only go to the cinema twice this year as I have a young son, Indy and TDK, anything else can wait for DVD or some guy to drive round my block with DVD's in his boot, only now he is Chinese instead of Scottish, how times change Jarv eh? -
Worst fucking excuse for a boxer these Islands ever produced. And I don't give a fuck about the olympic gold.
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Bizarrley the wife likes it. Could be worse.
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There, I tied the subject at hand back to the topic of the TB!
As for the Marquis of Queensbury rules: I see nothing that prohibits a Cow from using all the hooves God gave him or her.
1.To be a fair stand-up boxing match in a twenty-four foot ring or as near that size as practicable.
2. No wrestling or hugging allowed.
3. The rounds to be of three minutes duration and one minute time between rounds.
4. If either man fall through weakness or otherwise, he must get up unassisted, ten seconds be allowed to do so, the other man meanwhile to return to his corner; and when the fallen man is on his legs the round is to be resumed and continued until the three minutes have expired. If one man fails to come to the scratch in the ten seconds allowed, it shall be in the power of the referee to give his awart in favour of the other man.
5. A man hanging on the ropes in a helpless state, with his toes off the ground, shall be considered down.
6. No seconds or any other person to be allowed in the ring during the rounds.
7. Should the contest be stopped by any unavoidable interference, the referee (is) to name the time and place as soon as possible for finishing the contest, to that the match can be won and lost, unless the backers of the men agree to draw the stakes.
8. The gloves to be fair-sized boxing gloves of the best quality and new.
9. Should a glove burst, or come off, it must be replaced to the referee's satisfaction.
10. A man on one knee is considered down, and if struck is entitled to the stakes.
11. No shoes or boots with springs allowed.
12. The contest in all other respects to be governed by the revised rules of the London Prize Ring.
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that's one big fucking burger. Where's my ketchup. Franklin, Intolerable Cruelty is shit, but is better than the Ladykillers. Which proves that even someone as gifted as the Coens should not attempt a remake.
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except it didn't go so well that one. HAve to go, my Quota time has kicked in. Bastards.
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You know somethings wrong, when there is a big nasty enemy looming and instead of flying into the super structure to knock out the main reactor, they fire a tacion beam at it and it just goes away peacefully.
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I actually liked TNG show, and First Contact. Never really watched DS9, but I do know I did not like the Fereghi.I love Batman Begins as well, and TDK I believe will be extraordinary for those that enjoyed Nolan's first take.And I pretty much agree with you on the prequels. TPM was a hallow piece of movie, with really nothing going on. AOTC was very hit and miss, with only a few parts working (I like Obi's confrontation with Fett), and I too thought Sith was the most enjoyable, but the groundwork really wasn't laid down enough for Anikan to turn like he did. And you would really, really have to try hard to fuck up Indy.
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that TPM was the only movie where I waited in line in advance just to buy the tickets for the movie, which wasn't due to screen till a couple weeks later. I enjoyed the movie at the time, really loved Neeson and MacGregor, loved Maul and the final duel. Everything else was weak, and as the years have passed I came to realize just how weak. I liked Jango in AOTC, but not much else. Hated the way he was killed off quickly. I liked Sith as well, but even by AOTC in 2002 I saw TPM for what it was and didn't expect a whole lot. JAWS remains one of my all time faves, if not THE fave, and to this day I am profoundly afraid of swimming in the ocean. Just last week that one dude got mauled by a great white and lived to tell about it only because he had the sense to poke the fucker in the eye and get him to let go.
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I'm trying to keep my composure about "Crystal Skull." I want to go in expecting to have FUN, not to experience THE RAPTURE (although that would be cool). My best analogy would be Rocky Balboa, where I loved all the priors in the series and went in expecting to revisit a fond old friend after many years. I didn't expect the movie to give me the equivalent of cinema fellatio, and ended up really enjoying it. I have high confidence that Harrison and Stevey Boy will accomplish that for me (and others) with Skull.
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I really think this will be another quality Indy movie. I really wish it was out today and not next week...
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It really was shit, you know 80% of what comes out of Hollywood every year is pure shiteness, some years its more, if only I ruled the world.
You know, they never sacka director for ebing shite do they, once you ahve made one movie, someone will let you do another for the rest of your puff, they should be sacked for being shit. -
will resend it
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I've had no end of IT problems all day.
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a changian TB has climbed up to number 2. I'm just back from seeing how well our IT dork "interfaced" with a #2pencil
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Topps is making "Skull" trading cards, and has reissued "Heritage" cards from the previous films? Over on eBay, anything "Skull" related is fetching beaucoup $$$$
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IT nerds do not interface well with pencils. They bleed and cry.
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An IS helpdesk person takes a dirt nap.
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I'm going to staple an HR person to their desk now.
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They somehow have lost the ability to use the English language, whilst being patronising. Second only to web designers.
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I loved those cards...
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Human Resources or the IT group...It flip-flops on a daily basis here.
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May 16, 2008 10:23:33 AM CDT
I now have total control over MRV Multiple reentry vehicle
by toadkillerdog
0.7mm of leaden death from above.
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THAT is what you can trust...
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I have card #1 taped to my computer monitor. It's been there for years. The one that sort of inaccurately describes Indy as "freelance adventurer."
I dispatched a clerk with a tape dispenser today and used a staple remover to snag an IT guy by the skin between his nostrils. I yanked his head down, then administered a flaming leg kick. -
now we have FLAMING LEG KICK drills since I've burned down several cubicles by accident when taking out non-believing employees. For being too hot under the collar....
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is my Dr. Evil and Austin Powers talking heads.
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taped around the perimeter of my monitor, and on the tower. Cards include Indy, Roy Scheider as Cheif Brody from Jaws 2, Rocky II, Gene Simmons "Demon" kiss card, Ghostbusters, Toy Story, Batman, Batman Returns, The Beatles, Jango Fett, a Cylon from Battlestar Galactica, and Jones from Alien. And some pictures of my kids.
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That's strange. At my last misreable temp job I burned down several veal fattening pens (best description of cubicles ever) with Flaming Leg Kicks on purpose. I'm off to staple the IT dorks tie to a piece of paper and then run the cunt through the office shredder. Be back soon.
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Yup, you had sent us a pic of the Abom working area. A "shrine" if you will....You should also have the pic of Burt's room too.
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BEcause I refuse to personalise this fucking place in any way. Fuck that. I come in, work, then bugger off and hopefully keep my soul intact in the process. This is quite a good job, so I'm not really complaining- compared to working for the NHS it's like I'm a Beer Taster.
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a picture of burt as a screensaver. They think I'm being ironic, fools, they do not understand that this is the path to enlightenment
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Mostly with pics of my daughter, the aforementioned talking heads, a miniature Shea stadium, some pics of the wife, some Uconn stuff, and a pic of the old dude who played Blue in Old School.Oh, and I have a stuffed monkey called Mr. Giggles who harasses the women (old, fat, ugly, he doesn't care) and drinks way too much.
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I've smited two auditors with it.
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about de-personalizing my workspace. I've been looking for a better gig for a few years, and thought perhaps depersonalizing my desk would remind me that I don't really belong here. But then I figure, fuck it--as long as I'm here, I may as well spruce it up so that anyone who came by would KNOW unmistakably it's my place.
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on my desk, ready to do the Holy Trinity's bidding. When someone asks what's with the 3 pencils, they suddenly have one stuck in the side of their neck. They quickly pick up on not asking stupid questions anymore.
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Just stop fucking complaining about me abusing internet access and get me off Quota time . YOU FUCKING INFIDEL CUNT
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but couldn't locate it. I did, however, find this holiday card I made for coworkers in MS Paint. I made up my own Care Bear
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explaining in words of one syllable why I'm going to hurt his pets if he doesn't take me off quota time. It drives me mad, who gives a fuck if I'm defrauding our employer?
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You'll feel a lot better.
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He's been fucking intransigent about it. I've just pointed out that I'm the most productive person here and the cunt had the fucking temerity to say "imagine how productive you could be if you didn't tit about on the internet". The hell of 1000 graboids is waiting for him
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your IT person would be if they left you the hell alone and found something constructive to do!
Chances are, I'd be limited to bandwidth at work too if our job didn't rely so much on the 'net and looking up case dispositions on court websites and shit. I see the 'net as more or less a communication tool. Accusing me of using the 'net for personal stuff is sort of dumb; it'd be like yelling at me for writing a personal letter with a work-issued pen. It's like, it's a PEN, that's what it's FOR. Same with the 'net. It's a tool. Granted, it can get unreasonable, and there's shit out there that isn't appropriate for work. you know, photos of boobs and shit. I dig it. -
May 16, 2008 11:01:49 AM CDT
I sense a new wariness in my co-workers when i walk around now
by toadkillerdog
The wrath of the toadkiller, has always been feared, but now, it is something more.
Could it be my enlightenment from the CoC and the Holy scriptures has changed my outward mien? -
that his time is up. Clearly he doesn't realize he is talking to a warciple. The CoC network shall find his place of living and deal with him in the appropriate manner, ie a very violent, disgusting way.
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Its on Huffington Post and a couple other outlets. Says Harrison takes Connery-like role. Weak!
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You too are protected with a force shield that is infidel and shitheel proof. Go forth and wreak havoc on the non-believers toad!Off to lunch now...have a good one Jarv.
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The graboids here in the office are keeping me busy up til the very last moment before I leave for a few weeks. All I want to say is Peace, Love, and Gummer! And fuck GL for even trying to pretend like a Shia LaJones series of movies is a good idea. Fuck him in the ear with a No. 2 pencil!
your new co-workers that spending time on AICN is crucial to a balanced work environment.)
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I have no problem with this. The Indy movies are not a saga, after all -- they're separate adventures which happen to feature the same character. If GL continues on with Mutt, and the movies suck, it will not diminish my appreciation for the original 3 (or 4 -- jury's still out). I have a feeling, though, that I would enjoy a Shia-centered series, though I know it would be different in tone from the classic Indy movies.
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Unleash the knowledge on time.
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Wage the holy war on your office graboids...take no prisoners.
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As long as we get a good fourth Indy film, I could give a fuck then. The rest will be dead to me.I do like Joseph Gordon Levitt though.
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Temple of Doom was by far my favorite Indiana Jone's Film out of the trilogy. I remember watching it in the theater as a kid and loving every minute of it. It was way better than Last Crusade because it had a whole lot more believable tension to it. Just as Raider's did.. I will go see this new movie but have little hope that it will be as good as the first two films since adding Shia as his son to me is even worse than having Sean Connery in the third.. They should have short-round if anything make a cameo in the fourth, and make a a mixture of Raiders and Doom in terms of feel.. I know the movie is already made and at this point it is too late, however I truly hope an Indy 5 with Shia in it as the star never ever makes it into production...
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You have to wonder what the fuck is wrong with George.
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And if he is just running around in a tight t-shirt...oh, man...you have no idea what that will do to me!
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Danny boy will not be happy with you, imposter!
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Check out this article: http://tinyurl.com/58yldo Definitely implies there has been no screenings!! Where these reviews are coming from is anyone's guess. AICN has been duped!!
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And truly, I'm not trying to incur anyone's wrath on this TB. But I was underwhelmed by the first Matrix and I certainly didn't wish the sequels never got made just because I disliked part 1. So I'm a little unsure why some of you are dreading a movie you don't HAVE to see. It certainly won't ruin the Indiana Jones films if we see his son in a movie. Mutt Williams travelling the world could be cool. He doesn't have to become iconic like Jones. And an interview with Shia talked about his desire not to become the smug hollywood "IT" guy. I believed him.
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it has nothing on Star Wars so comapring "The Dark Knight" to "Empire Strikes Back" is just wrong and stupid.
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And come on, give the guy some credit too! He did create Star Wars.
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