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Derek Flint compares INDY 4 favorably to WRATH OF KHAN! Plus new trailer in glorious Quicktime HD!

Published at: May 10, 2008, 8:52 a.m. CST by quint

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. Call me optimistic, but this is the first review that we've gotten that gives me a lot of hope for the movie. The themes this movie plays with, according to Mr. Flint, to me signals the kind of movie I was hoping for. Before you dive into the review, though, scope out trailer #3: WHIP IT HERE! WHIP IT GOOD! It's a weird trailer, that adds seconds onto scenes we've already seen with a few interesting glimpses at new footage (like the crop circle spider thing). It's not the best edited trailer... some shots going on for a few seconds too long, but there's some really cool stuff in there. Okay, now on to Flint's review, which I believe is our first review from a known spy and past contributor. Enjoy!

Only Mild Spoilers First off, Indiana Jones isn’t my cinematic nirvana. It’s not a seminal movie going experience for me like most people. Ultimately, what I’ve enjoyed most about the films is revisiting them with groups of friends over the years. Watching “Indy” is a truly fun thing to share. I enjoyed “Raiders of the Lost Ark.” After all, who doesn’t? Yet, it didn’t engage my emotions in the same way the first two “Superman” movies did or even the original “Star Trek” film series. ROTLA is a thrill ride that’s built for speed. Its classic status is underscored by how well it holds up decades and imitators later. Aside from the frenetic opening, I found “Indiana Jones & the Temple of Doom” a bore. Kate Capshaw’s performance sunk every scene and Harrison Ford’s line reading of “We… are… going… to die!” still makes me cringe. Nevertheless, I find the film fascinating in retrospect, hearing George Lucas’ proclamation that the dark tone was the result of his wrenching divorce. That explains all the hearts being ripped out. What I liked most about “Indiana Jones & The Last Crusade” was the father & son relationship between Ford and Sean Connery. I respected the desire to add dimension to the main character and also the resolution, wherein Indy used his wits to save his old man. (Although, I agree with those who say Connery should have taken the knight’s place and stayed behind.) I never thought I’d see another Indiana Jones film, but after the return of Rocky, Rambo, and McClane… it became inevitable. (Catherine Trammel’s return doesn’t count. Sorry, this is a gentlemen’s club.) George Lucas should be commended for truth in advertising. He predicted that, after so much anticipation, no movie could ever meet the expectation of a rapid fan whose spent the last two decades imagining the ultimate Indiana Jones adventure in his mind. Given the iconic place these films hold, Steven Spielberg also didn’t set out to reinvent the wheel and fix what ostensibly isn’t broken. Sorry, a PG-13 “Die Hard” where helicopters explode and occupants pirouette out and land safely isn’t “Die Hard.” It’s “Die Soft.” During his Comic Con presentation, Spielberg said he was making this film for the fans. He certainly didn’t have to, as he can get any studio in town to greenlight a can of baked beans as a new movie. So, Mr. Spielberg… thank you. Thank you for making an Indiana Jones film for all those around the world who wanted another one. Thank you for making a film that fits comfortably within the canon you helped invent. Thank you for recapturing the spirit of your previous direction of the series, while also adding some subtle meditations that your later “serious” pictures have employed. Also, thank you for reminding us that Harrison Ford is indeed a major movie star who can hold the screen at any age, just like all the other greats… Marvin, Holden, McQueen and Wayne. “Indiana Jones & The Kingdom of the Crystal Skull” blends many of the divergent elements of the first three. The jeopardy and stakes of the first. The darkness and rituals of the second. The generational differences, relationships and humor of the third. Oddly enough, the mix reminded me of a non-Indy movie, “Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan,” wherein an aging, melancholy hero is galvanized back into action, reclaiming meaning for his latter day existence. It even has a similar relationship with a young man who has a large chip on his shoulder, for very good reasons, and a woman from his past reappearing. Marion Ravenwood’s name carries similar feelings as “Carol Marcus” in this context. I’ve read another reviewer of this film claiming disappointment the character of Indiana Jones wasn’t accorded the same introspection and ruminations of the last Rocky Balboa outing. The first and last “Rocky” movies, before the sequels became cartoonish caricatures, were both human dramas. They were character pieces heavy on dialogue and building towards inevitable finales in the ring. Indiana Jones is an action adventure series. While Indy acknowledges his advanced age, he does it in the context of how things are handled in “Indiana Jones” fashion. That doesn’t mean halting his exploits to pontificate ostentatiously on mortality. Sorry, "It's not the mileage, it's the years" fits this world. Unlike Rocky, Indy steps into the ring for combat after the first reel. What I loved most about the 1950s’ milieu KOTCS takes place in, which Lucas still has his “American Graffiti” affinity for, is how Dr. Jones is now truly just a senior member of a college faculty. There’s no way the young people around him could ever imagine this educator to be a world traveler and adventurer. He's the old guy, off in the corner, in the malt shop. The atomic age motif works like a charm with a sequence set in “Doomtown” being particularly memorable not just for its jeopardy, but also a subversive satirical streak. The Russians more or less act like the Nazis in the first and third film, with a similar trace of historical accuracy underpinning the proceedings. People have been gunning for Shia LeBeouf’s character from the beginning, but the actor more than holds his own against a formidable leading man. Young Shia adds a lot to the proceedings, is physically adept and enjoys solid interplay with Ford… especially being the brunt of a lot of Dr. Jones’ acerbic sarcasm. Ray Winstone is a resourceful actor, making more out of his subordinate character than another performer would. Karen Allen is a welcome return as Marion although, I’ll admit, she’s not as pivotal to this film as I’d hoped. The initial dialogue between Indy and his old flame crackles like from the first film, so it comes as no surprise that writer David Koepp in a recent interview acknowledges he sought help from original ROTA screenwriter Lawrence Kasdan for this exchange. Cate Blanchett’s Soviet Agent Spalko was not at all what I was expecting, especially her being a disciple of the fabled “thought police,” but once again… Russian obsession with ESP and psychic warfare are well documented. Ms. Blanchett engages in a psychological battle with our hero and her performance is so peculiar that on occasion I thought she was being directed by David Lynch. She distinguishes the film from all the others with her singular presence. The crystal skulls and their extraterrestrial origin are dealt with from an archeological standpoint so, despite outcries that science fiction doesn’t belong in the Indy series, it’s consistent with the previously established mysticism that’s come before. The culmination of this legend during the finale doesn’t have the old style Hollywood theological impact of the first film, nor the emotional payoff of the third, but it’s way better than the second. If anything, a lot of the finale’s destruction and conversion reminded me of “Total Recall,” but don’t take that as a debit. You’ll see what I mean. Some will say this movie is overstuffed, but I viewed it as a second trilogy all rolled into one. There may never be another Indiana Jones film, so they went for broke with nonstop set pieces that remind us Steven Spielberg can easily best anyone currently making their career as an action director. Some of his “old fashioned” techniques serve as a revelation in the wake of current post "Matrix" styles. His long lasting shots without frenetic cutting are particularly enthralling to behold. Still, I do feel we were bamboozled at bit by their saying CGI was underemployed… especially when one of the villains is dispatched by teeming insects vacationing from “Jurassic Park.” I also liked the fond, deferential ending a lot, as Indiana Jones movies seem to have a subliminal “To Be Continued…” during their codas. Still, this feels like the last one, but so did “The Last Crusade.” While they did ride off into the sunset there, Harrison Ford reminds us in an interview: "The sun came up the next day." One thing’s for sure, after the lights come up... true fans and new ones will continue “the man in the hat’s” adventures in their imaginations. While I can’t profess to know what Indiana Jones movie people will be expecting to see at 12:01 on May 22nd, I can say this about the one Lucas, Spielberg and Ford have given us: I liked it, a lot. And like all the others, I’ll look forward to seeing it again with friends and having a good time. Sometimes, that’s what a good movie is for. Derek Flint

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  • May 10, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST

    First?

    by TRON

  • May 10, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST

    I always have wanted to do that

    by TRON

  • May 10, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Promising..Khan comparison? WOW

    by TRON

    After two lukewarm reviews, This looks very promising. Hope to see other good reviews

  • May 10, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Good to hear

    by Gd00

    And first, maybe?

  • May 10, 2008, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Well, that makes me feel better

    by GregoryHarbin

    I wasn't born when the last Indy movie came out, and I've been hoping against hope that this one will turn out well. Plant though this may be, a positive review gives me some more hope going into my midnight screening....

  • May 10, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    This review seems a little defensive/ but informative

    by g-ride9000

    It's nice to read something so even keeled. that one Merrick put up was more one sided and poorly written. Lets say it kids, they obviously hit some "Classic Indy" 3 pointers. The negs on this are paper thin. Ask yourself if you want to like this movie...

  • May 10, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    thank you

    by bluebottle

    "Unlike Rocky, Indy steps into the ring for combat after the first reel." <p></p> the whole comparison to rocky balboa was beautifully put.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Iknow its early sat, but I want to see those paper thin hater ar

    by g-ride9000

    what the fuck do I pay the the new ATT for all this band with if nerds sleep in on saturday.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    haters, come and get it

    by g-ride9000

    (robot voice) this movie rules, i am a sexy robot, you are a terd burger, g-ride out.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    I don't understand...

    by rbatty024

    who can not be excited about this film. I liked the new trailer. I think extending the scenes add just a little more impact.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Top Poster

    by mvckalel

    Wow, that is nice, and that is what WE hope to see...

  • May 10, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Finally, a POSITIVE review.

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Sounds like it's gonna do exactly what it says on the tin. Can't wait.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Plant

    by fiester

    Big green leafy plant.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST

    HELL YES!!!

    by solobear

    This reveiw seems a lot more legitimate than the first few, and not just because it's more positive-although I can't help but love THAT!! I think all these naysayers that have been pushing their questionable cinematic "wisdom" in recent days are going to be proven wrong in a big way come May 22. I know I'll be grinning, and so will all the other fans of these magnificent action/adventure masterpieces. GO INDY!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 9:34 a.m. CST

    Remember when people claimed the Pirates of the Carribean...

    by rbatty024

    trilogy was the new Indiana Jones or new Star Wars. There was also the same talk about The Matrix movies. It's kind of sad that no one has been able to replicate the thrills of the old masters. Both trilogies had terrible second and third installments. There just wasn't enough for more than one film. It'll be nice to have Spielberg back to show the youngsters how it's done.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    The Divorce

    by robotdevil

    Not to get picky, but it was Spielberg that was having the messy divorce.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    fiester, no brainer, no plant

    by g-ride9000

    the only thing planted on this page is your sense of entitlement. This review makes real points about plot points, cinematography and acting. There is not one unjustified point in the whole artical. You are also a douch.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    Indy is coming

    by pepino

    To show the national treasure generation how its done.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST

    The trailer:

    by THT3000

    The second best from the three.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:46 a.m. CST

    phaedrus007

    by Jay Jay

    Spielberg AND Lucas were both going through/had just been through messy divorces at the time.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Basically POTC is this generations Indy.

    by DerLanghaarige

    POTC is a trilogy of great adventure movies with an original, but not too original twist and sequels that are both loved and hated by the same amount of people, while the whole thing is some popcultural phenomenon without being THAT big phenomenon that Star Wars is (But seriously: There will never be something like "The next Star Wars", especially not in this cynical time we live in.). <br> Can't wait for Indy 4!

  • May 10, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    science fiction elements

    by kafka07

    kind of make sense for the time period the film takes place in, I guess I can buy it now.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    by AllieJamison

    Interesting. Especially considering the not necessarily Indy-loving place Derek Flint is coming from. <br> I just hope Neill Cumpston already has his tickets.

  • May 10, 2008, 10 a.m. CST

    I guess the check cleared.

    by Karl Hungus

    That read less like a review and more like damage control. Of course, right out of the gate, I can't take it seriously because it implies with a straight face that Last Crusade is better than Temple of Doom. Whoops.

  • May 10, 2008, 10 a.m. CST

    Hey, Planty McPlant...

    by Merriman Lyon

    ......At least SEE the movie before you plant a positive review on this site. This 'review' is too vague to be real. The negative reviews had far more detail about specific plot points. And this review isn't even positive. It's defensive - and it's asking us not to give poor old KOTCS a hard time over its obvious failings. After all, the people involved are dear old senior citizens. So that excuses them making such a bad movie? They should have known better than to make it in the first place.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    the fact that this reviewer didn't like "temple of doom" ...

    by Toe Jam

    totally negates any stock i put in his critique.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST

    No-one has said anything was great about it yet!

    by performingmonkey

    Every review is either critical or defending it due to the Indy legacy. But what the hell is actually GREAT about this movie??? Not much, it seems. After 20 years people don't want just another installment, one that's worse than Crusade. For all its flaws TPM certainly wasn't that. I commend Lucas for what he did with TPM (not AOTC and ROTS though, which should have been written and directed by others)

  • May 10, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    “We… are… going… to die!” that was a great line!

    by BMacSmith

    come on!

  • May 10, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    FUKIN FRIDGE SCENEscotsman75

    by Herb West

    Please explain FUKIN FRIDGE SCENE

  • May 10, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    That's it? THAT"S what this movie's about???

    by Merriman Lyon

    Holy Jesus, I don't believe it. The story's about returning a 'crystal skull' to temple.....? Are you f**king kidding me? THAT'S the mcguffin that Lucas has been holding out for? Holding out FOR TWENTY YEARS? HA HA!<p> Jesus. I've never seen such a lazy, half-hearted trailer. It looks unfinished - edited by people who had better things to do, and who in the end couldn't be bothered. Does ANYONE at Lucasfilm actually care about this franchise?<p> Jesus, they keep using that shot of some kid in an Indy costume swinging off the top of a crate. I thought this movie was about the old Indiana Jones - not Young Indiana Jones. The whole thing's a joke.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    I can't wait for .....

    by Herb West

    little Suburb Shia to start girlie punching some chicks.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    LOL!! crop circle spider thing?

    by peruboy

    These are the Lines of Nazca, and aren't alien, my ancestor draw them following constellations to know when harvest.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Herb West

    Just please don't tell me that Indy gets into the spaceship.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:16 a.m. CST

    Cunt

    by keanho_in_nyc

    Scotsman should be banned like that "Russian dancer" extra was cut from the movie.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    One thing i see in the trailers

    by red_weed

    is that Janusz Kaminski still insits on smoking out the frame and making all the light glow and halo. I can deal with it in other films. I think it worked well in war of the worlds the way they blended the effects with that look. But goddamn this is an indy film! none of the others look like that and it's just annoying to me now. I'm over it. It should look crisp, you should see the dirt on their faces. the lights should produce animorphic flares as the pass the edges of the frames! just like the other movies! Is this fogging supposed to show that indy is older? that everything is slightly blurred the indy's old eyes? Oh i dunno. Who with me on this??!?! Anyone? no... ok. forget it. YAY INDY

  • May 10, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    I liked the way Indy said "WE ARE GOING TO DIE!"

    by Tacom

    I liked how pissed off at Willie Scott and I thought it was supposed to be intentionally funny. Anyway this and Harry Steele's review gives me hope. I was actually hoping from what I've read from spoilers about age and father and son and an old flame that it would be like "Wrath of Kahn" in a good way. Star Trek II is the only Trek movie that's as great as the classic series IMO.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    How was Last Crusde received

    by Jor-El23

    Upon it's initial release? I know in 1989, without much of an internet to speak of, there wasn't a forum for nerd backlash. I was 10 when it came out and I loved it, along with the other Indy movies. But I was young. I didn't react the same way to the Prequels. I liked them but they don't mean as much to me as the original trilogy does. That being said, I have young cousins who love the prequels as much as they love the original trilogy. What am I trying to say? You've grown up, you've aged, you've seen a lot of bad knock-off movies and you're jaded. Indy 4 will never be as good as the original 3 were to you.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    WE ARE GOING TO DIE

    by red_weed

    is my fav line! what makes it great is the ridiculous look he gives after it and they hold on it just long enough for it to sink in and become hilarious hahahaha. DOOM is my favorite out of the 3. always has been and probably always will be. I still think it has the best set pieces and the best creepy crawlies.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by g-ride9000

    WHY ARE YOU YELLING SO MUCH?

  • May 10, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    This does not sound good...

    by Hooded Justice

    So let's recap: we have four reviews.<p>Two say the movie is awful.<p>One says it's not awful, just mediocre. Great.<p>Now this review apologises for the movie and asks us to give it a chance??<p>Doesn't exactly inspire confidence. Added to that is another of these strangely boring trailers. What are Lucasfilm playing at? Usually, the best scenes are in the trailer (then you go to the movie and discover that it doesn't live up to the promise of the trailer). That's the point of trailers: to hype the movie up and get you excited.<p>But the Indy 4 trailers are different. Are Lucasfilm DELIBERATELY making dull trailers to lower public expectations? wouldn't be surprised - especially after the Phantom Menace disaster.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of Plants!!!!!!

    by ludmir88

    no!!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by Herb West

    Yeah, please stop yelling.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    SOUNDS FUCKING GREAT

    by kwisatzhaderach

    "His long lasting shots without frenetic cutting are particularly enthralling to behold." Yup, the master is back.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    I appreciate your contribution, scotsman75, but...

    by Hooded Justice

    Why the capitals? Why no punctuation or complete sentences? Makes it very hard to understand what you're saying.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Merriman Lyon...

    by solobear

    Oh, hoo-Ray! Merriman Lyon is back. And he still has nothing positive or worthwhile to say, as continued predilection for irrelevancy demonstrates. This is gonna be one fun day!

  • May 10, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST

    Has any heard of "Tounge and Cheek"

    by g-ride9000

    because that was the entire point of Raiders and the whole thing. A little inside joke that has nostalgic elements at every turn. This jungle serial on steroids was great because its mash-up theme benefited from the modern film techniques and visual effects. Regardless of their plot point choices within the framework, the framework seems to have stayed intact for KOTCS. As far as those plot details, each film has their giant boulders and also their willie scotts. <p><P><P><P><P>SO STOP HATING AND THINK, HAVE A DISCUSSION.<P><P>Does this film's choice of plot points work with in the pre-established framework?<P>Do those plot point represent the good taste of the original?<P>LET DISCUSS SOMETHING WORTH WHILE

  • May 10, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Away and watch Speed Racer and Narnia.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    I recently watched the Indy Trilogy in the past few weeks

    by romanocc

    We have to put things in perspective, Raiders is a classic that still holds up today, and TOD & TLC were fun 2-hour rides that hold up pretty well. What makes Indiana Jones iconic......Indiana Jones! I will say it and say it again as to why people didn't love the Prequels, or say movies today that are catered to action and CGI, ITS THE CHARACTERS STUPID!!! When you create an iconic character, you have an affection for that person on screen, and you will atleast enjoy it, whether it is great or good. People had problems with the PT cause they didn't care about Padme & Anakin, and in some ways Kenobi, and if you put Luke, Leia, and Han in those same situations, we may still not love it, but we will atleast care! Indiana Jones is just cool, he is the John Wayne/Steve McQueen/Humphrey Bogart of action films, and that is why people will enjoy this film. John McClaine, John Rambo, Rocky Balboa are all able to have sequels after the fact because they are great characters. I don't think Indy IV will be a cinematic classic, but if you enjoy the series, how can you hate the film?

  • May 10, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Hooded Justice...

    by jones1899

    Um the first two reviews looked fake. The third was very positive and this one is even more so positive. By my count thats 2-0. Positive reviews win.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    indy throws a football over those mountains

    by LarryTheCableGuy

    scotsman75 nothing u are saying hasn't already been said

  • May 10, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    Walk out....?

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Just like I expected to see people walk out when they head plastic heads metling/exploding in raiders?

  • May 10, 2008, 10:52 a.m. CST

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Just like I expected to see people walk out when they had plastic heads melting/exploding in raiders?

  • May 10, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    scotsman75 saw the Topps cards

    by FlyingToupee

    He didn't see the movie. This review sounds promising.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    That's too bad.

    by neverhed

    I was really harboring hope for this movie, despite Shia LeDouche. With everything more I see.. that hope dwindles more and more. That trailer makes INDY 4 look like about as much fun as LAWRENCE WELK.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    oh, no -- aliens!

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Definitely not as believable as ghosts flying out of the arc. No way, no how.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST

    i like this review

    by El Borak

    it seems like he gets it and isn't too serious about it at the same time.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:56 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by g-ride9000

    (robot voice)U R A ROBOT CUNT>>>YOU USE OIL FOR ROBOT LUBE>>>YOUR GIRLFRIEND IS A MALFUNCTIONING NORTON COMMANDO 850. ADIOS TURD NUGGETS!!!!!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 10:56 a.m. CST

    give me a break, guys...

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    lucas was right -- people expect this to be the second coming. objectively, it probably fits right alongside the rest of the films in terms of action/quality. spielberg did this by design. and, had he not, ya'll would still be complaining. the foregoing notwithstanding, the majority of the movie-going public will completely dig this movie, as this site makes up a .000001% fraction of same.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:56 a.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by The Dubliner

    YOU'RE A FUCKING ASSHOLE!

  • May 10, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Stopped reading at...

    by yesiamaplant

    ..."Harrison Ford’s line reading of “We… are… going… to die!” still makes me cringe." Clearly this person has no sense of humor or comedic timing, and sees these films as background noise while he's attempting to read Faulkner or something. I could care less about his opinion on the matter, positive or not.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    ALSO -- indy v. dark knight.....

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    There is no competition here. The two films come out nearly TWO months apart, they appeal to different demographics, and they aren't in the same genre. They're both "hero" films, but you can't for one second tell me batman is anything akin to indy. If anything, Indy's main competition is the MUMMY 3. Puh-lease.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Jones...

    by Hooded Justice

    No, the first two reviews are only 'fake' to people who don't like what they say. They are detailed and balanced in tone - and do not show any particular agenda. They are pretty unremarkable, actually. They have been 'called into question' by people who DO have an agenda: fanboys. If those reviews were for any other movie, no one would doubt them for a second.<p>Review no.3 says it's better than the mediocre Last Crusade - but NOT AS GOOD as the equally-mediocre Temple Of Doom. That's not a recommendation to a lot of fans who - like me - think the sequels were very inferior to the original Raiders. I remember that even Spielberg officially apologised for Temple Of Doom in the years following its release.<p>This reviewer compares KOTCS to Wrath of Kahn (a pretty good movie) only in terms of some plot similarities. He does NOT compare it in terms of quality. His overall tone is more one of apology - not of recommendation. And frankly, if I were to question the authenticity of any of these reviews, it would be this one: it's very, very light on specific details.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    hey scotsman

    by El Borak

    suck a turd dick-less wonder. let me know when your indy movie comes out testicle tumor.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    SK229

    by g-ride9000

    well put, you are a film scholar among dipshit Scotsmen.<P><P>cameron seems to have that one down, and sometimes de palma. I feel like Ridley had it, then lost it, but now kinda regained that control a little...Your thoughts on these guys....

  • May 10, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST

    But is it true....

    by Herb West

    that Suburb Shia actually holds his own alongside Ford? I find that hard to believe.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST

    Hooded Justice

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Those negative reviews were written by film geeks -- agree or disagree? If they posted on this site, they aren't representative of the average filmgoer, nor are they representative of the average critic. Yes?

  • May 10, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Wow, that was like, well written

    by Jaka

    And well thought out, everything in the right place. This is actually the first Indy review I've read, and probably the last. This one was nice and level, answered a few questions, gave away a few small bits, but didn't go too far to either side of praise or bashing. Like everyone else, I have my own expectations, and I'd rather go in feeling level, or even positive, than looking out for the negative things I might have read.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Point is....

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    everything that lucas said would happen IS happening. It's almost comical. if raiders came out today, for the first time, I'm sure the people on this site would rip it apart. "the sets look fake," "the arc attacking scene looks corny," "the action's too slow." give me a break. And what's with all of the speed racer love on this site? the critical consensus is that Speed Racer is a cinematic abomination. Yet this site bashes indy? One of the reasons I'm guess this site exists? Huh? And Sarah Marshall is AWESOME? HUH!? I bet if that hill dude from superbad was in shia's role, this reviewers on this site would be lovin' it up.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST

    Is there an atom bomb going off in one part?

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Just need to know what goes down in Area 51.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:09 a.m. CST

    flying over the aztec spider

    by LarryTheCableGuy

    thats awesome. i love me some eric von doniken truth bombs. alien mythology belongs in indiana jones as much as jesus, moses, atlantis and the indian religion thing. i cant wait, if i was 10 i would love this without any bullshit knickpicking, but i wouldn't be about the movie bneing boring or sow at any points caue you know it's not gonna be that way, any talky scenes are there to move the plot forward.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    er, jarjarjockstrap...

    by Hooded Justice

    'Film geeks' are human beings too. There's nothing about any of these four reviews that suggests they weren't written by reasonably intelligent, articulate adults. Their opinions are valid, just like yours or mine.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    seth rogan as indy!!!!

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    if that had gone down, this site would have been on cloud 9, no doubt.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    jarjarsjockstrap

    by Herb West

    That's because nobody here gives a shit about Speed Racer but we do give a shit about Indy. We just don't want to see Lucas and company sodomize the series like we all know he's capable of.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    someone ban this cock

    by El Borak

    pretty please?

  • May 10, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Hooded justice...

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    I agree. I'm just saying they're not representative of the average filmgoer. And, of course, I value their opinions. And, of course, I think they'll see this movie in droves -- even if they think it sucks. Same thing happened with the prequels. They're still film fans, at the end of the day.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    It Belongs in a Museum!

    by Herb West

    All I want to know is, what happens with the ark?

  • May 10, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Scottsman 75

    by Evil_Imp

    Go fuck yourself already! nobody wants to read your childish CAPITALIZED rants every other post ok? you clearly have or border on a mental instability to be so worked up over a movie you still have yet to see. Somewhere in your ypbringing someone never taught you haw to temper your disapointment i guess, cause ranting like you are on an internet talk board about a movie that you have predetermined to hate and tear down without any first hand knowledge reeks of a mental problem.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:18 a.m. CST

    excuse my spelling errors...

    by Evil_Imp

    But the point still stands

  • May 10, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST

    THE ARK

    by Herb West

    So what happens to it?

  • May 10, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST

    I Was at the Same Screenin As scottsman 75

    by SantosLHalper

    the ufo at the end fucking rocked. scottsman was to busy getting his diaper changed by his dad to understand the significance of what happens at the end.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    SK229 is correct

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    It IS about the character, and that, too, was my only concern about the film. But, Ford looks like he's up to the task, and the trailers indicate just that. I can't believe the people on this site wanted someone else cast as Indy. FORD IS INDY. Indy lives with ford and dies with ford -- PERIOD. The reason the character is so awesome is because FORD made him awesome. Many others have tried to play indy (frazier in the mummy, hairless cage in national treasure, jolly in tomb raider, matthew magagsneyey in sahara, etc, etc, etc), and they all failed miserably. MISERABLY. No one is indy BUT ford. Hell, the reason the PREQEULS sucked was because they lacked a Han-solo type of character. They lacked Ford. When ford is on -- he's on.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    We are going to die line makes your cringe?

    by gwarwilleatyou

    I'm sorry that line is awesome. That is all

  • May 10, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    I have no problem with someone disliking this movie

    by Evil_Imp

    I have a problem with 20 + posts in CAPS just spewing out hate and Venom with no intelligent discussion or ctiticism behind it . I doubt Scotsman even tried or wanted to like this movie....just a hunch.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Scotsman75 - Cheers, mate. Sound amazing.

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Seriously, I know you're just pissing on it because you've swallowed too much cum and it's warped your brain, but this sounds fucking tops. Great work cock muncher!

  • May 10, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    "we.. are.. going to die" was awesome

    by LarryTheCableGuy

    but "yea, ALL of us" was my favorte delivered line

  • May 10, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Regardless, I'm there.

    by Grendel745

    You'd think Ford and company was coming to your house and lighting a turn on fire on your front step. All I'm asking for is to be entertained for a while for my $10, which I know Indy will do. Raiders, Temple of Doom and Last Crusade did that back in the day and in a few weeks Crystal Skull will carry forth that legacy. The Indy movies are not some cinematic holy grail (and neither are the original Star Wars films), despite my deep and abiding love for them (and the original trilogy). Its a frakking movie. There are many, many things Hollywood does that will work me into a angry frenzy (talk of remaking Casablanca being #1 on the list) but releasing a new Indiana Jones movie isn't one of them. I know that when I go opening weekend with my two older sons (ages 9 and 12) that we're going to be thoroughly entertained which is the entire reason I watch movies.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST

    It Belongs in a Museum!

    by Herb West

    Has anyone ever noticed that Indy never got to keep any of the treasures he was looking for except the cross thing at the beginning of Crusade? Does he finally get to keep a treasure in IJ4?

  • May 10, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Regarding those seventies directors...

    by rbatty024

    I think Spielberg is one of the few who hasn't lost his touch. Catch Me if You can is an absolute classic and I also enjoyed Minority Report despite Tom Cruise. Even when he has a miss, like Terminal, at least it's an interesting movie. He's not afraid of moving away from his comfort zone. I love how he says he made the new Indy movie basically because it would be fun. Hopefully that attitude translates into the final product.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST

    I am so looking forward to this flick...

    by Mistahtibbs

    <p>...and everyone of you nay-saying, "PLANT!"-shouting, failure-cheering, parent's basement-dwelling, overweight, cheetos-scarfing, self-abusing, bearded, goateed...........um, where was I?</p> <p>Oh yeah.</p> <p><b>FUCK YOU!</b></p> <p></p> <p>cunts.</p> <p>With all my venom.</p> <p>MT</p>

  • May 10, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST

    SCOTSMAN........

    by Evil_Imp

    SEEK PROFESSIONAL HELP , MATE

  • May 10, 2008, 11:34 a.m. CST

    meesa called mutt williams meesa your humble servant

    by LarryTheCableGuy

    "that won't be neccesary"

  • May 10, 2008, 11:36 a.m. CST

    Hey Scotty..

    by solobear

    Why don't you pack up your foul-mouthed ramblings and head to your room. I think your time would be better spent playing with toy phasers in your make-believe engine room. Leave these talkbacks to people who actually give a damn.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:37 a.m. CST

    Will someone please shoot Scotsman75!

    by alucardvsdracula

    What a total and utter prick.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    solobear

    by Herb West

    Though I do find it funny that he hasn't ripped Shia apart. Could it be true that he actually did a good job in this movie?

  • May 10, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST

    Apologies for my language...

    by Mistahtibbs

    <p>Seriously.</p> <p>Sorry about that.</p> <p>No excuses. Just apologies but the sentiment remains the same.</p> <p>MT</p>

  • May 10, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST

    CLoVERFIELD MONSTER!!!!!!!

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    I hear the cloverfield monster makes a cameo in this movie, and then gizmo fights in him Mortal Kombat!

  • May 10, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Give it a chance...

    by solobear

    Let's give Shia, and everykne else in this film and behind the scenes of this film the chance. I'm betting they made a movie that we'll enjoy and that they will be proud of.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    RE: It Belongs in a Museum!

    by Mission Code Z

    Wouldn't it be cool, and fitting, if the series ends with the fertility idol back in Indy's hands...just the way it all started, from our vantage point? : )

  • May 10, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST

    I noticed something

    by Megamonki

    all the bad reviews seem to "nitpick" and involve their personal feelings while the good ones use context and detail.... just a thought

  • May 10, 2008, 11:45 a.m. CST

    that trailer is WAAAAY better

    by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran

    than the others.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST

    maybe its the music is more peppy

    by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran

  • May 10, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST

    THE TRUTH...

    by solobear

    Megamonki has just put forth what many of us have been thinking since these INDY 4 reviews and talkbacks started. He hits the nail on the head. Why do these people feel the need to tear this film to pieces when it isn't even out yet? I do not lend any credence whatsoever to any of the negative bullshit these fanboy wannabes are putting forth.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST

    Mission Code Z

    by Herb West

    That's exactly what I thought.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    LINES OF NAZCA

    by peruboy

    I think this is the first time they appear in a movie, It's a shame Maria Reich is not alive to see it. Probably she would said "For God's sake it's not alien!!" lol

  • May 10, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    HERB WEST

    by solobear

    Hey, Herb, if you're still out there, I have a question for you. How long have you been a voice of reason on these talkbacks?

  • May 10, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    solobear

    by Herb West

    I try my best, but it's hard sometimes. :)

  • May 10, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    I Hear Ya!

    by solobear

    Y'know, it's hard to be civil and try to have an intelligent conversation when you're surrounded by all this unfounded negativity. The crap that some of these numbskulls resort to saying is not intelligent or amusing. Why do they waste their time? I Do enjoy talking with others about film, even when their opinions don't mesh with mine, but that's half the fun of it. But this other stuff goes way far around the bend.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    IRON MONGER

    by solobear

  • May 10, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Scotsman...

    by solobear

    Well...you just have some clever witicism to offer up on just about everything, don't you. Why don't you go crawl back inside a case of Lucky Charms you useless fuck, and leave the rest of us alone. You're little more than a hemorhoid. Tell me this, Scotty, is it even remotely possible that you might have something useful or halfway intelligent to say?

  • May 10, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    At least we've risen above ....

    by Herb West

    the Shia hate. That's good, I guess.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST

    Jeff Bridges

    by solobear

    I thought that Jeff Bridges was great as the villain. He, and the rest of the cast of IRON MAN were excellent. That flick was one helluva great way to kick off the summer movie season.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Herb...

    by solobear

    Have you seen SPEED RACER yet?

  • May 10, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    You're little more than a hemorhoid

    by Herb West

    Ha. Or like my Grandaddy used to say. He's like a carbuncle in the crack of a man's ass.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST

    shia is amazing

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    even stevens for heisman.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:13 p.m. CST

    solobear

    by Herb West

    No I haven't. I really haven't even watched a trailer for it yet. Though if I find it floating around online somewhere it may become mine. Just kidding of course.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:13 p.m. CST

    scotsman75!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Dude, when are we gonna play POGS? I've been waiting 15 years for our epic re-match.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST

    Who gives a damn?

    by solobear

    I really don't give a rat's left testicle where Lucky Charms comes from, dickhead. You're the one who needs to get his facts straight-everything you have have been putting out here for the masses is nothing but venom-filled, hate-laced garbage. If you'd like to join in and have a pleasant conversation, terrific. Otherwise, shut your stinking pie-hole. You're not funny, just sad. Go play bully somewhere else.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST

    scotsman75 is the king of kings...

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    and the bravest soul I've ever known. we used to roll together is east r'dale. word, scots. 4 lyfe.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:17 p.m. CST

    SOLOBEAR!!!...shut up

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Dude, leave scots alone. Me and him are boys, fo shiz, and I don't like you smack talking him. In high school, Scots was the MC in Cabaret, and he was AMAZING.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Insults

    by solobear

    Hey, punk, I'm not insulting Irish folks or Scottish folks-just you. But it doesn't seem to bother you that you spend a vast majority of your time here insulting everyone else. Your brainless ramblings get old MIGHTY quickly. Oh, and the fact that you are able to ype in capital letters doen't impress anyone, either.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST

    scotsman75 and me in high school...

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Dude, remember jc? What's he been up to?

  • May 10, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    scotsman75, I love you.

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    There -- I said it.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Enough

    by Herb West

    So what happens to the Ark?

  • May 10, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST

    telemarketer, the winner would be...

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Sebulba. That dude's got the juice, now, grandma.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:22 p.m. CST

    The Ark

    by solobear

    It sounds like you get to see the Ark, or at least the crate containing it, for a moment, but nothing more. Maybe Indy will get to make some crack about it. I'm smiling just thinking about it.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST

    "we are going to die" is a great fucking line

    by darwinmayflower

    don't fuck with the temple of doom!

  • May 10, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    Sebulba...

    by solobear

    Funny you should mention that. I'm listening to the EPISODE I sscore as we talkback, and the piece of music playing at this very moment is the Flag Parade piece. Nothing beats some good John Williams orchestral goodness. Nw, if that darn INDY 4 score would just come out...

  • May 10, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    That's what I was afraid of...

    by Herb West

    Did they really stage that whole warehouse part just so we could get a glimpse of the ark and that's it? That's a rip off. I really hoped Indy would be able to keep something for once.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    Scotsman...

    by solobear

    If I have insulted you, then I beg your forgiveness. But I do find that much of your acid-toned comments are negatively provocative, to say the least. Tell me, ar eyou the fellow who said he just got a copy of the film earlier?

  • May 10, 2008, 12:27 p.m. CST

    Herb...

    by solobear

    I agree, Herb. Maybe this time he'll get to keep Marion. Just think, that might give Indy the oncentive to go looking for that Fertility Idol again...

  • May 10, 2008, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Iron Monger

    by solobear

    Of course he couldn't, Telemarketer. That is, unless he gets his hands on one of them big ass TRANSFORMER robots. Then old Iron Monger would be turned into tin foil pretty damn quick!

  • May 10, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    telemarketer, Sebulba would still win!!!! Even if Uwe Bol joined

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Sebulba and Watto are the greatest CGI creations in cinema history. With Watto playing "Mickey" to Sebulba's "Rocky," Mutt, Iron Monger, Jessica Alba, AND Uwe Bol would all be royally screwed. When Sebulba rolls up 'longside ya and flashes his grill -- it's game over.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    scotsman75

    by DirkD13"

    Think about it dude, the end of Raiders had vengeance seeking angels that melted faces, exploderised heads and sent fire through peoples stomachs. The end of Crusade had an immortal Knight and death by instant aging. Why should aliens and saucers be a problem? I would certainly find aliens alot easier to believe in than anything remotely biblical, I don't understand your (la)beef. These are not exactly Ken Loach films, ya dig?

  • May 10, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Spamster, you moron...

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    He's replacing them with Snorks!

  • May 10, 2008, 12:34 p.m. CST

    DirkD13"...

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    That's what I've been saying. You, sir, are the man.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST

    SCORE!!!

    by solobear

    Chalk one oup for the Telemarketer! The Hemorhoid-sorry-Scotsman has taken another one on the chin!

  • May 10, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    go looking for that Fertility Idol again...

    by Herb West

    That made me laugh. Most people probably don't remember but Marion girl used to have a sweet little ass. http://tinyurl.com/5f9hvr Wonder if she still does.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    And A Good Night To You, Telemarketer...

    by solobear

    Sweet dreams, TM, and may your dreams be as exciting as an INDIANA JONES adventure. Hell, maybe Mutt will be along for the ride!

  • May 10, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST

    I get the feeling

    by Christopher3

    That Scotsman is really a Scotsboy.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST

    What?

    by solobear

    Scotsman, I'm shocked. Your mommy actually lets you drink alcohol? Maybe that's what has killed all of your brain cells.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    I Get The Feeling-Part II

    by solobear

    That the Scotsman is really a Scotsgirl.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    scots

    by DirkD13"

    Hey man, opinions are like assholes you know? Everyone's got one and none are less valid. Aliens are cool with me, but if many of the lines are duds, well that's a different matter. Anways, I'm still there Sat 24th.<p>jarjarsjockstrap; you sir, are a gentleman.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:41 p.m. CST

    Alcohol...

    by solobear

    Is the Guinness what is fueling all of your creativity? Ahhh, so sad...

  • May 10, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Eat shit, crybabies! Go die Hobbit lickers!

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    You negative cunts never fail to amuse me. You hate everything but those cock-sucking hobbits. Kevin Smith was right, an entire trilogy dedicated to walking. FUCK LOTR right up it's tired old ass! Indy will be a welcomed return! It will be great to see adults in movies again instead of these pussy, liberal, mealy-mouthed, hand-wringing twats who wouldn't know what hero meant was it was tattooed on their taint. You Prequel bashers can eat some fuck as well as the Star Wars flicks are just fine for the TRUE fans and those that paid attention. If you hate those films you were never that big a fan to begin with, that's the fucking truth! Indy will be the highest grosser this year, although Dark Knight gives some competition due to it being Ledger's final film, so it could be horserace with the two. And fuck Speed Racer as well, a phony movie for a phony affliction like HDD. Shitty cartoon = shittier movie, makes sense. As for the bashers, you can kiss my hairy yellow ass!

  • May 10, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    OK, Lay off of Scotsman now....

    by Herb West

    You can take away his Star Wars action figures and Legos, BUT YOU'LL NEVER TAKE HIS FREEEEEDOM!!!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Yelnick...

    by solobear

    I agree with you man-on most accounts anyway, and perhaps not as vociferously. I dig all six STAR WARS films, the INY films, and I'm sick of prelease film-bashing by people who haven't seen it. BUT...I also liked the LORD OF THE RINGS films, I'm going to see SPEED RACER with an open mind, and I don't particularly care for Kevin Smith or his films. But, I think that we're on the same page, bud!

  • May 10, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Herb...

    by solobear

    I agree with ya Herb. I think I will ignore him. I tried to say sorry, but the guy-or girl-just threw it back in my face. Life goes on. I'm gonna see INDY and that's all that matters!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    I've read all of scotsman's post...

    by hollywoodsummers

    and I don't think he's actually seen the film. He certainly has an inside source because he is right about certain plot points, but they are a bit out of order and leave's out a few other details. He's either been told things by someone who's seen it or worked on it, or seen pieces somehow... maybe at a trailer house.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    rock on Indy, rock on

    by aboriginal

    f'n a-man this is gonna be good - and screw all the haters.

  • May 10, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    I know one thing....

    by Herb West

    Indy would single handedly whoop every member of the Gates family from National Treasure. Including the little sidekick geek.

  • May 10, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    I have a feeling

    by Megamonki

    like temple of doom this one will divide the critics but in a year or so it will be considered a classic along with the others (like temple of doom)

  • May 10, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    Carol/Marion

    by g0dai

    I think the comparison only survives until you consider the impact of Marion's reappearance being exponentially more meaningful. She appeared in a previous movie whereas Carol Marcus was essentially retconned in for plot reasons... Hearing that they underutilized Karen Allen is a major disaappointment. Maybe John Hurt's appearance will help offset that, but I've barely heard a peep about that!

  • May 10, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    and another thing

    by Megamonki

    this I disagree on Indy's "we are going to die!" line is my favorite in the whole series Ford's delivery and the face he makes afterward make laugh everytime

  • May 10, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Let the dick sucking begin. Oh it already has.

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    One good review and some of you are ready to totally fellatiate this guy. <BR> <BR> I'll stick with my gut based on the trailer, other reviews and comments from those involved in the film from various interviews that this movie sucks donkey dick. <BR> <BR> Those of you with your head in the sand who have HUGE expectations for this movie don't forget to swallow as no one likes a spitter.

  • May 10, 2008, 1:21 p.m. CST

    scotsman75 - HAHAHAHA!!!

    by Mako

    What a waste of a life. If there's anything positive about you spending so much time yelling on this board... it's that you're not out in the real world. We all thank you for that!!

  • May 10, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST

    That Die Hard 4 comment Derek made is retarded

    by TheMcflyFarm

    Yes a helicopter exploded and an occupant jumped out to land safely. BUT THE PILOT STILL GOT BURNED TO DEATH AND THE GUY WHO LANDED GOT CRUSHED TO BLOODY PIECES IN AN ICE GRINDER! YOU FUCKING STUPID RETARD ASSHOLE MORON FUCKFACE IDIOT! I'm so sick of the bullshit excuses people make for not liking the best movie of last summer, asshole fuckface retards!

  • May 10, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Carol Marcus

    by Herb West

    What was the history of Carol Marcus. Was she a character from the original Star Trek show?

  • May 10, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    I'm watching Last Crusade right now

    by vadakinX

    It's on TV and has just reached the three tests...I've gotta say, it's no Raiders, but it's still a damn fun movie. <p> If Indy IV is even close to Last Crusade or Temple of Doom, it will be worth it.

  • May 10, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    WORTH IT

    by solobear

    I have no doubt that this is going to be a good movie. Face it, Steven Spielberg doesn't make bad movies. Even things like 1941 and THE COLOR PURPLE (I like the first, not the second) have some redeeming qualities. All of Spielberg's films are well-made. Of course, some are better than others, but that's the case with anyone who directs more than one film. But it's going to take a helluva lot more than screaming juvenile rants to give up on this film. I'll see it for myself and form my own opinion then, thank you very much.

  • May 10, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Carol Marcus

    by solobear

    No she was brought in for TREK II. In my opinion, she was there to try and humanize Kirk a bit. Let's face it. At that point in the TREK saga (1982) Shatner was a bit long in the tooth to be believably bedding down with every 19-year-old Playboy figured space damsel that he came across, as he seemed to do in the original series. Carol Marcus she made Kirk's mid-life crisis sub-plot a bit easier to bite into. But it was one movie and done for Ms. Marcus.

  • May 10, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    Carol Marcus part II

    by solobear

    Carol Marcus and Kirk's son was in both TREK II and III, but he was a bit of a wasted character, especially in TREK III where he was so conveniently killed off by the Klingons in front of Saavik and the young/reborn Spock. Boy, did THAT piss old Kirk off!

  • May 10, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    KIRK AND SON

    by solobear

    KLINGON BASTARDS, YOU MURDERED MY SON!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    mcflyfarm

    by kolchak

    Die Hard 4 was a sellout piece of shit. Everyone involved should be ashamed.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Speaking of sons...

    by solobear

    Hopefully Mutt Williams won't get blasted into oblivion by Klingons!

  • May 10, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    DIE HARD 4

    by solobear

    I wish that LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD had had more of an edge to it, but I still got a big kick out of seeing McClane back in action again.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    Maybe you can't go home again...

    by solobear

    but that doesn't mean that all of these revival films-INDY 4, DIE HARD 4, ROCKY BALBOA, RAMBO-aren't still a kick to watch. They may not be as fresh as the originals, but I'd didn't expect that they would be.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    William Hurt???

    by solobear

    You mean John (chestburster) Hurt, right?

  • May 10, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST

    William Hurt

    by solobear

    If he were William Hurt's stepson, wouldn't he be lost in space, or trapped in an isolation tank or something?

  • May 10, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Solobear & Scotsman75

    by Alex Trevelyan

    I've been reading your posts and they're both hilarious. keep at it. PS Die Hard 4 was crap.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    HAPPY TO OBLIGE!!!

    by solobear

    My pleasure. There ain't nothing better to do on a rainy afternoon, after all. Oh, wait a second, I could be watching a movie!!! Damn, why didn't I think of that earlier.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    John Hurt

    by solobear

    Does Indy and his posse find him in one of those cells we catch a brief glimpse of in the trailer? He certainly looks like he hasn'r bathed in a year.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Telemarketer you're funny too..

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Mutt Williams Vs. Robocop. Who would win?

  • May 10, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Here's a question a little off the subject...

    by solobear

    Does anyone know if the INDY 4 score has been posted anywhere yet. I heard brief pieces of each of the cuts from the CD on Amazon.com, but I want more!!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST

    scotsman is wrong

    by hollywoodsummers

    Hurt is in the film longer than 6 or 7 min... he's in it almost as much as Karen Allen. And Mutt is not his stepson... that would mean he and Marion were married and they are not. This guy has bits of info he's trying to piece together and say he's seen it.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    I'm calling B.S. on scotsman

    by hollywoodsummers

    Sorry mate.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    hey scotsman

    by t40stunt

    why don't you shut the fuck up you little punk . seriously i'd love to run into your little bicth ass on the street so i could slap the fuck outta you . a punch would probably kill your frail ass . you sit hear trying to ruin shit for folks that just want to talk about their hopes for the movie . a lot people put in hard work to make this flick happen and then some douche ( YOU ) gotta try and fuck it up . Please , Please tell me you live in the l.a. area so i can put a uwe boll on you

  • May 10, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    The Legitimacy of the Scotsman

    by solobear

    I think Scotsman said earlier that he had a copy of the film. I asked about this and got no response. Not to point the finger at him, but a lot of what I've been reading (i.e. the reviews) seem a little lacking in detail. I haven't seen the film, but each day I see something slip out that helps me paint a bigger and more complete picture of what the INDY 4 story is. I enjoy reading this stuff, but until I see the film, I'm going to be taking it all with a grain of salt.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    be waiting for

    by t40stunt

    your witty counter .

  • May 10, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Lay off the Scotsman Stuntcock

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Leave Scotsman75 be. Why the hating? He's hilarious. He's bring out the worst in you all and its very funny stuff to read. keep going Scotty. I'll back you up 100%

  • May 10, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    LENO

    by solobear

    Last night I caught Harrison Ford on Jay Leno. I was a litle ticked off that they showed no clip from the film. Leno and Ford batted about the fact that the film is "veiled in secrecy." What we got to see was the clip of Ford getting slimed at the Kid's CHoice Awards, and his environmentalist spot about the rain forests being chopped down. That let us see Mr. Ford getting his chest waxed. HO HUM!!! I wanted a clip, goddamn it!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    This douche just told us...

    by poeticwarriorII

    GL's excuse was comendable. That a movie that is anticipated this much can never live up to the expectation. He had the fucking audacity to sit there and shit in our collective pockets and tell us it's hailing. What GL was really saying was I know I'm out of touch with reality and I made this movie 15 years too late because now I'm really incredibly bad at making movies because I'm surrounded by people that refuse to tell me no so everything I touch turns to shit and I let Speilberg cast some kid with a jew fro that nobody likes as Indy's bastard son thereby making IJ a deadbeat fucking dad. Get the fuck outta here with that shit.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    stuntcock huh ?

    by t40stunt

    wow thanks for the compliment .don't swing that way but hey . listen not hating just want to enjoy the tb without having to sort through all the b.s. but if you want to join sides then fuck you to chief .

  • May 10, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Solobear

    by _SnakePlissken_

    you silly scepo bastard, "Lucky Charms" come on mate you just gave that dirty scotsman more ammo and excuse to spew more of his verbal diarrhea all over this talk back, and like we didn't have enough anyway, the cunt has posted 49 posts of meaningless dribble. But in true yank form you got your countries mixed up.. you'll get him next time. Haggis eating bastard

  • May 10, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    Sorry T40Stunt...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    I misread you name and called you StuntCock. My bad. poeticWarrior-interesting observations. GL is some producer of shit. Remarkably tasteless man. What direction would you have taken the film?

  • May 10, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    INDY/TREK

    by solobear

    WRATH OF KHAN still holds up as one of the two top TREK films-the other is, in my humble opinion, FIRST CONTACT. I got the feeling that the comparison has to do with the Older Indy-Older Kirk thing. The one thing that I think Indy 4 will lack is a villain that is as powerful as Khan.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    mccain wasnt back in action

    by LarryTheCableGuy

    bruce willis was. die hard 4 was lame.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    douche

    by t40stunt

    is that thing your SUPPOSED to use in your twat to keep away that fishy smell. but you probably enjoy the aroma scotswoman

  • May 10, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Spielberg will MURDER the haters with this movie... personally

    by Proman1984

    Indy 4 will rock! Accept no immitators!

  • May 10, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    its 53 posts now btw

    by _SnakePlissken_

  • May 10, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Die Hard - gore - profanity - catchphrase =

    by kolchak

    generic, MTV edited, PG-13 cutaway fest.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Trevelyan

    by t40stunt

    no worries .

  • May 10, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Go Scotsman. I love you baby..

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Dont take any shit yo! I like where your head is at. StuntCock is a cock!

  • May 10, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    The John Hurt stuff

    by solobear

    From the time I first saw RAIDERS in 1981, I always thought that the ABner Ravenwood thing was something that should have been explored in one of the sequels. I figured that he would somehow turn up, either tracking down Indy for help, or having Indy somehow stumble across him in some far corner of the globe. If all of what I'm reading is true, then the rampant rumors about John Hurt being Abner Ravenwood are rubbish. It's just another one of those ideas that has apparently drifted by the wayside.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    I agree with the aforementioned sentiment

    by kolchak

    that this is going to be panned on arrival, but in a few years we'll all love and accept it as cannon.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    I agree with the aforementioned sentiment

    by kolchak

    that this is going to be panned on arrival, but in a few years we'll all love and accept it as cannon.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    First off, that wasn't McClane in LFODH...

    by poeticwarriorII

    that was some bald twat they plucked out of the old folks home and placed beside a used Dildo. That movie was a huge stinking turd. Secondly, GL apparently didn't learn from SR. He must've thought that putting some stinking tampon in a movie playing the bastard son of a beloved character was a great idea. We now have trailer park trash Indy. Congratulations to the duo of stupidity for ruining one more of their cash cows.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    Scotty...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Where did you procure said copy? Please share with the group. Are you MAx Speilberg by chance?

  • May 10, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST

    Scotsman

    by solobear

    Okay-so somehow you've gotten your greedy mits on a copy of the movie. I envy you. Answer one question-I've heard a lot about surprise cameos in the film. Are they true, and who are they? And, please, no smart ass crap, just a straight answer. After all, Lucky Charms or not, SPOILERS is what this web site is founded on. So let loose!

  • May 10, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    PoeticWarrior2 is on the money yo...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    I feel you baby. That Die HArd 4 was a con. Nonsense. Who is less talented and what my good friend. Len Wiseman or the gout faced GL?

  • May 10, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Trevelyan

    by t40stunt

    your right i am a cock and i bet you like where his head is at ...if you get my drift .

  • May 10, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    Scotsman

    by solobear

    Thanks, man. I appreciate it. But I was so hoping for a grown up Short Round or Papa Jones appearance. I guess Sean Connnery wasn't rtying to pull the wool over everyones eyes by saying he was done with acting.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Scotty ...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    You have them eating out of your hand. Nice! Again where did you get the copy?

  • May 10, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    SEAN CONNERY

    by solobear

    I guess that I should have given up on Sean Connery when I saw him in that AVENGERS travesty that came out a few years back. I did always think that Connery would have been a kick-ass villain in a new Bond film, though. THAT would have been a masterstroke of casting.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    The fanboys are unworthy of this movie

    by Proman1984

    Fuck all (well, most) of you for being stupid dumbasses!

  • May 10, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    LOOK BOTTOM LINE IS...

    by hollywoodsummers

    CRYSTAL SKULL will be a fun movie. I can say this because I'm working on it in some way (sorry, can't tell how) and I know the story, dialouge and scenes in order, as well as the score and I'm telling you IT'S NO PHANTOM MENACE! Are there some moments when people will say "I wish they hadn't gone there." YES. But that shouldn't detract from the overall fun of one last Indy adventure. People that go in with a pre-concievced notion of what the film "should" be are already sabotaging their experience. The film delivers some great action scenes and funny Indy moments. Is it over the top at times? YES, but all of the films were and that's the fun of them. They are E-ticket rides like Space Mountain at Disneyland... they are meant for thrills and chills and that's the point. George (for all his fuck ups) decided he wanted to make a B SCI-FI film with the Indiana character he created. Steven is a master at directing action and big hollywood set-pieces... what else doo you really think you're going to get? If you want a Star Wars comparison, at the least it will be as good as SITH and at best it will be like JEDI. If you really hate those tow films... don't waste your time, but if your like me and find those film exceptable for what they are and where they fit into their series, then go have fun with Indy one last time. I already have my ticket for the 22nd, see you there!

  • May 10, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Crop Circle Spider Things?? Its the NAzCA lines you MORON!!!!

    by Ethan Big Nuts McKinley

    You Know, Eric Von Daniken - Chariots Of the Gods, Teachers from the stars, alien races having Influence on ancient cultures, Anunaki. Google It dudes.............Its cool

  • May 10, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    STAR TREK

    by Ethan Big Nuts McKinley

    MAYBE LIKE THE STAR TREK MOVIES... YOU KNOW ODD NUMBERS VS EVEN NUMBERS. MAYBE THE NEW LONG TITLED ONE ARE GOOD AND SHORT BAD??? (Indiana jones and the) RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK INDIANA JONES AND THE KINGDOM OF THE YOU KNOW WHAT THE FUCK IM TALKIN' ABOUT

  • May 10, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    StuntCock...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Fairplay for admitting you are ni fact a penis. More power to you .

  • May 10, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    The greatest adventure series of all time

    by kolchak

    has a new entry...and all we can do is bitch? Before we even see it? Come on, gents. Be happy.

  • May 10, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST

    BRAVO HOLLYWOODSUMMERS!!!

    by solobear

    Your words are full of filmfan wisdom, brother. Comparisons are a dangerous thing when it comes to opinions that are formed before a film's release. INDY 4 will be what it is. I put my trust in Spielberg, and will judge this after I see it on the 22nd. I have no gripes so far, but it sure seems like I am a minority in this. PLEASE, just give this film a chance, people. Don't go into it with negative feelings or expectations that are bound to be dashed. Just go into it to have a good time, and I'll wager that you will come out with a big smile on your faces and a familiar John Williams theme being hummed or whistled from your grinning face. That's what we all want!

  • May 10, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    eric von doniken raped my chilhood

    by LarryTheCableGuy

  • May 10, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    SUPRISES

    by solobear

    I don't care if there are surprises are in this film or not. What I do know is that it's hard to come up with surprises in film sequels. I just want it to be good. That has nothing to do with the film being full of surprises.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Holy Fuck ,Man.....

    by Herb West

    Get Firefox with built in Spell Check would you? Fuck.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST

    scotsman keeps repeating the same points over and over

    by hollywoodsummers

    he does not have a copy of the film. his descriptions are pretty close to certain things, but they lack details that even I know from working on it.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Part of AICN

    by solobear

    At this point in the game, surprises would be few and far between anyway. Here we are less than two weks away from the film's release. Many who visit this site and participate in these talkback crave the spoilers. I am one. I WANT TO KNOW. I doubt that even Lucas and Spielberg would be able to hide THE BIG SURPRISE from the AICN filmfan community for very long. The word is always out there. It's just that sometimes it's a trick to find it and discern the true from the false.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    B.S. control...

    by hollywoodsummers

    Mac doesn't save Indy by sacrificing himself... that's just knot how it goes down man. Scotsman is full of shit.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST

    And one post is enough...

    by Herb West

    we get it. Or at least we may if you'd even attempt to spell for Fuck's sake.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Hey Hollywoodsummers...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    I worked on it too for 16 weeks. He's close.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Hollywood Summers is legit

    by kolchak

    You, sir, get my vote of confidence.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST

    solobear

    by hollywoodsummers

    I've been on this project for months and find my self whistling the Raiders March all the time... even my friends are like "damn, that song again?" I can't help it, I'm deep in Indy world right now. It's fun.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Alex Trevelyan

    by hollywoodsummers

    He is close... but not spot on. I'm not saying he doesn't end up in some form of "hole" if that's what you call it.. but it's the sacrifice part you're off on.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:12 p.m. CST

    Right On Hollywood!

    by solobear

    The Day that the trailer first appeared and that theme came on I had tears in my eyes. I know that sounds lame, but I don't care. I guess it's a nostalgia thing. That and it's a damn good theme! I dig's my John Williams!

  • May 10, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    I'm not here to give any specifics...

    by hollywoodsummers

    It wouldn't be ethical to do so, (in fact do you really want a play by play before you see a film?) But I will call B.S. here when I see it.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Hollywoodsummers...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Fair enough.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    Trevelyan

    by t40stunt

    you man ... so you worked on it for 16 weeks huh ? what'd you do on it ? i worked on it for about 6 weeks . hollywood obviously does post work but maybe i know you . just wondering

  • May 10, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Hollywoodsummers...

    by solobear

    If you are truly working in some form or other on the new INDY film, that I am envious of you. I got a taste of working in the film business many years ago. While in film school, I worked as a production assistant at a majjor special effects studio. It was the best job I ever had. I got to do what I'd always wanted. I got to show a bunch of people who said it would never happen how wrong they were, and I worked on a handful of major films. To this day I'm proud of that. Health issues interfered with me in the long run, but I hope that you feel the way I felt back then.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    scotsman

    by hollywoodsummers

    I'm assuming you have a few scenes, probably poor quality or unfinished VFX and I'm also guessing no audio. That might explain u'r misconceptions about certain points.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    To Hollywoodsummers

    by DangerMan

    What do you think of this review? I've read Flint's before and he tends to see things first. This sounded like a fair appraisal of what to expect, which is the expected.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Working in the film business...

    by solobear

    One of the downfalls to working on films is that you don't always get to work on the best of projects. Of the four films I worked on, three were terrific and one was a steaming pile of crap. But I will say that it was always a blast.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    I heard the gremlins make a cameo...

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Gizmo, caca.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:23 p.m. CST

    t40stunt

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Please I cant say what I did. I'd like to keep working on the show I'm currently on and the next on after that. HSummers i agree with your last statement. Sounds like an assembly edit, workprint or effects playblast.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Anyone who doesn't like Temple of doom..

    by CeejayNightwing

    is beyond reviewing an Indiana Jones movie for me so not a single word of his opinion means squat!

  • May 10, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    NEW TRAILER? Not really

    by Orionsangels

    It's the last trailer with a few new shots thrown in. I don't understand what the point of releasing it is

  • May 10, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST

    DangerMan

    by hollywoodsummers

    I think if he's really seen it he's pretty much giving a fair opinion of his feelings. I personally am not a big Star Treck fan, but the one I do own and like most is KAHN, so I think that says something good for the film. My personal thought is, go in to have fun and maybe nit pick a little after, but I'm sure it won't be that punch in the gut sick feeling I got after seeing PHANTOM MENACE the first time.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Yeah, the new trailer is pretty much the same as the last one.

    by thebearovingian

    Meaning not very good.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    solobear

    by Herb West

    What films did you work on?

  • May 10, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    HERB...

    by solobear

    I worked on SUPERMAN IV (YUKKK!), INNERSPACE, ROBOCOP and BEETLEJUICE.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    thebearovingian

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    And what IS good, eh? Wait, wait -- lemme guess: The Dark Knight? Damn, I'm good. Dude, get over it. Go watch National Treasure and Cage's house of 100 hair pieces.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    solobear

    by hollywoodsummers

    Doing what I do now is fun, and I know many people who even do what I do would love to get some of the projects that I've been lucky enough to work on... but that said, It's still work.. long hours, short deadlines, and the bigger the profile on a project, the more pressure to blow people away. I'd say it's a solid mix of fun and stress.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    SUPERMAN IV

    by solobear

    SUPERMAN IV had two major problems. First, the story sucked to begin with. And second, they got so far behind in the fx work that the fx were farmed out to a bunch of facilities so that they would be done in time. The work was rushed, and if you watch the film-which I haven't done for verrrrry Looooong time-there is very little consistency to the effects work. That was mainly due to Warner handing off the film Cannon Films, who were not exactly known for quality. They just wanted everything fast and cheap. They got that, but the quality suffered immensely.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Summers...

    by solobear

    I hear you, Summers. It seems like the way things work nowadays, in this age of digital filmmaking, they want everything FAST. And that can add a lot of stress to an already heavy workload. Rush jobs are rarely fun. But it's still gotta feel like a priviledge to work on a film like INDIANA JONES.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    I'm really looking forward to seeing the action again !

    by barnaby jones

    So many summers have past in a blur of kicks,jumps and explosions. Yet there was nothing to savour, so thank you Steven, George and Co. Thank you.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    STUDIOS ARE SATAN!!!

    by solobear

    The studios are the ones behind all this rush, rush, rush crap. When you watch movies, you can always tell that this or that would have been better if there had been just a little more time to do something right or fine-tune something. The studio pushes the producer, who pushes the director who pushes the cast and crew, and it can get downright ugly. But, sometimes the payoff is worth it. And then there are a few filmmakers who take the time to do things right-no matter what the studios say. They are the heroes.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Filmmaking

    by solobear

    When you are participating in the making of a film, no matter what you're job, it can often take a lot of balls to stand up and say, "wait a second, this isn't right. We need to do..." and sometimes the people you work for are stand-up enough folks to say, "Okay, let's do that." And I can say, both from experience and from things I've heard from others, those kind of people are few and far between. And that is very unfortunate.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Kirk

    by solobear

    And then he gets into one of his weird-ass fistfights, using some amalgamation of tumbling and martial arts. His shirt gets torn and he beats up the bad guy.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    solobear

    by Herb West

    So if you worked on SUPERMAN IV, then you are at least partly responsible for the death of the franchise which in turn led to Superman Returns and the great idea of a bastard son which in turn probably led to Shia the bastard son in Indy 4. So the way I see it, if Indy 4 fails, it's all because of you. Damn you, Damn you, Solo Bear. ;-)

  • May 10, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    solobear

    by hollywoodsummers

    It has been special working on Indy. Not just for my love of the films, but because my father worked on the first trilogy and so it feels like a big piece of my family memories, going to see him work, going to wrap parties, etc. He's not working on this Indy, but my godfather is so that's kinda fun to work on a project that he's on too. We also did that on Munich.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Why the "Movie" competition??

    by hoorayforeric

    MARVEL fans hated SW fans when Spidey 1 and Ep. II came out within weeks of each other...now I think we have the same MARVEL geeks trashing everything not-comic related. Indy IV will out-gross Iron Man and Dark Knight...but all three won't gross as much as Sex in the City...and unfortunately...I'm not joking!

  • May 10, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Indy

    by solobear

    Indiana Jones, on the other hand, just draws his gun and shoots the bad guy. It's damn cool, and it doesn't take as much effort. A great method, especially when you're suffering from disintary.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Herb...

    by solobear

    Sorry, man, I just did what I was told. But the SUPERMAN franchise was on its death bed long before I entered the picture. SUPERMAN III put him in the coffin. #4 was just the nails.

  • May 10, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Question for Scotsman, Hollywoodsummers, Trevelyan...

    by Hooded Justice

    ...and those who have actually seen this movie. I think your answer will let us know if it's worth seeing or not.<p>So far, I've found the trailers strangely unexciting - even a bit boring. Whether you agree with that impression or not, can you answer this:<p>In your view, are the trailers downplaying the movie, i.e. deliberately showing the most uninteresting parts so as not to spoil the REAL fun?<p>Or are the trailers showing some of the BEST and most exciting moments in the movie - in your opinion?<p>You see, whether you personally like the trailers or not, you are in a good position to say hether or not they are truly representative of the movie. Thanking you in advance.

  • May 10, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    The Superman Disease...

    by solobear

    The core of the problems with the SUPERMAN film lie with several people. It was Ilya and ALexander Salkind, Pierre SPengler and, eventually, Richard Lester who fucked up the Man of Steel. If Warners had just had the forsite to get rid of the Salkinds and Spengler and put the franchise in the hands of Richard Donner, then I think all would have been well. But, I still get goosebumps watching the late, great Christopher Reeve in the first film. He was truly the template for big screen superheroes.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:01 p.m. CST

    Thanks for liking it!

    by Orionsangels

  • May 10, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    solobear

    by Herb West

    Of course, I'm joking. The death of the Superman franchise HAD to have been a team effort. But my reasoning makes sense, if you see the world through these eyes. :)

  • May 10, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Hooded Justice

    by hollywoodsummers

    First off, I haven't seen the final finished film, but I've seen plenty and know the play by play and to answer your question, I think they've given the trailer editors only pieces to work with and been very strict about what they can use. The action scenes are big and the moments you see in the trailer are just snipits of much larger, much longer sequences that go on for quit a while. Hope that helps.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Herb

    by solobear

    I know. The strangest thing about that experience for me was that, with the exception of seeing the spfx supervisor Harrison Ellenshaw talking to my boss one time, I had absolutely no contact with anyone else on that film. I remember going to see it with a sense of dread, knowing that, yes I workled on it, but the film sucked. I don't even have the movie, I dislike it so much. And That's not because of the work that was done by the fx studio I worked at, but because the film was so bad. Even good fx wouldn't have saved that movie. It was shit from the get-go.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Die Soft

    by AlwaysThere

    There's absolutely nothing "soft" about the action scenes in Live Free or Die Hard.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    EVERYBODY

    by CITIZENKANE

    I normally don't talk on these boards. But, it seems to me, that the naysayers are predisposed to not liking the movie, and the supporters are predisposed to loving the movie. Here's an idea: why not wait to watch the movie, and develop an opinion of your own? I'm a huge Indiana Jones fan, and the above review is encouraging, but I'm waiting 'till May 22nd before I say ANYTHING about it.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Herb

    by solobear

    And all we did on it was some last minute compositing work that others had no time to complete. Liek I said, this film was an on-going train wreck and the wreck didn't come to a complete stop until that film was falling flat on its face in theaters.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Crybaby Haters- STAY HOME!

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Thanks Solobear!@!!! Seriously, the people that actually think Spielberg would make a lousy film just need to stay home, but then that's expecting too much. Because the haters like to dump on shit and act as though they are being forced to watch it even though they got dressed, left the house, drove to the theater and plunked down their ten spot just so they can bitch and moan like the dumb whores they are. Enjoy your life for a fucking change! If Indy 4 offends your delicate little sensibilites, stay inside! I feel pity for all of those that have been brainwashed into hating the prequels or being forced to choose one series over the other. If you sheeppeople can be suckered into voting for Obama than anything can happen at this point! Guess what? I like it all, Trek, Jones, Star Wars, Galactica, Buffy/Angel.... This is America, sense when do we have to fucking choose?! Let us those that have a life and don't hate, enjoy Indy's presumably swan song and have a damn blast! I swear if I ever encountered any of you crybabies, I would love so very much to kick your ass from one end of the street to the next.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:17 p.m. CST

    "indy places the 13th skull"

    by hollywoodsummers

    Scotsman wrong again... he doesn't know the details

  • May 10, 2008, 4:17 p.m. CST

    solobear

    by Herb West

    Well, at least it's nice to know that there were franchise killers long before Ratner and Raimi.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Scotsman, Trevelyan

    by Herb West

    How bout it? What about Hooded Justice's question?

  • May 10, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    got to role out

    by hollywoodsummers

    Have fun talking Indy

  • May 10, 2008, 4:27 p.m. CST

    Anyway....

    by Herb West

    it was a pretty good trailer.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    I feel the breeze...

    by solobear

    It seems like things are calming down around here. I'm sure that I just jinxed everything by saying that.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Thanks, Hollywoodsummers

    by Hooded Justice

    You can understand why I asked: remember how great the trailers were for TPM? So many movies throw the best moments into the trailer, making the actual movies a disappointment. Still, in this case It's curious that Lucasfilm couldn't dig out a nice moment of snappy dialogue or a kick-ass action shot to sell their movie.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    T2

    by solobear

    I remember the trailer for TERMINAtor 2. I loved it. It really got me jazzed to see that movie. But after seeing the film, I really realized what a true masterstroke it was. It got your blood pumping to see Arnold in action again without really blowing anything. I was amazed at all of the stuff that they managed to keep hidden from everyone until they saw the movie. I was completely blindsided by the T-1000. It was great. I think that that was probably the last truly internet-proof blockbuster.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Re: T2

    by blindambition238

    I was definitely too young to remember the marketing for it, but if I remember correctly most people thought the cop was going to be the hero and Arnold the villain once again.

  • May 10, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST

    COME WITH ME IF YOU WANT TO LIVE

    by solobear

  • May 10, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST

    if scotsturd has seen this..

    by El Borak

    what does the paramount logo fade into? ha! ha! biiieeeeaaattch

  • May 10, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    C'mon...

    by solobear

    Why not save something for a surprise...

  • May 10, 2008, 5:01 p.m. CST

    paramount logo

    by LarryTheCableGuy

    i'm betting on the prairie dog mound. thats sounds legit.

  • May 10, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    The Trailers...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    The trailers are not what you should be judging the film by. In my opinion they hold back quite a bit. There was strict policy not to tell the entire story in the trailers like every other trailer. Several where thrown on the table ads examples. Dont bother asking. I not telling. They trailers are merely a starter. You'll have to show up on the 22nd for the main course.

  • May 10, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    "KHAAAAAAAAN!"

    by fiester

    Maybe that was Short Round's last name. Aw, you know I love me some Indy. I just really really hate The Beef.

  • May 10, 2008, 5:20 p.m. CST

    Absolutely adrift as to why....

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Shia is so dis-liked. I can't comprehend it.

  • May 10, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST

    Yo Yo Telemarketer!

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Great to see you back. Did you see my post earlier.? Who would win in Mutt Williams Vs RoboCop?

  • May 10, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    TeleMarketer...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Whats the story yo? Do you read anything thats posted?

  • May 10, 2008, 5:50 p.m. CST

    I heard Mutt Williams once

    by kolchak

    took a Krispy Kreme from Rosanne Barr and lived to tell the tale.

  • May 10, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    Kolchak...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Is telemarketer high? He's fascinated with swords and does appear to read any posts.

  • May 10, 2008, 5:55 p.m. CST

    Im not sure.

    by kolchak

    But seeing as I'm not too fond of Shia to begin with, I welcome the lampooning with open arms. That's what the internet is all about, right?

  • May 10, 2008, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Nice to see you respond T..

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Nonsense of course they can. if Mutt had a lightsaber he could chop'n'shop Robo. If you cant see this pose a possible match. Mutt Williams Vs ????

  • May 10, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST

    Mutt...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    My mother would tear Mutt a new ass and smack iron Monger hard style .

  • May 10, 2008, 6:04 p.m. CST

    IronMan...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    I missed the ending after the credits. What happened?

  • May 10, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Telemarker

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Thats some grim shit. It shows Mutt has guilt though. Mutt Vs The Alien & Predator?

  • May 10, 2008, 6:12 p.m. CST

    TeleM...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    you're an eejit!! "Please cease trying to interact with me" Then you pose me a question. Not to bright are we?

  • May 10, 2008, 6:19 p.m. CST

    What it really comes down to...

    by poeticwarriorII

    is that this is a movie that can't stand on its own. It's a movie that has to have excuses made because, while it's not a shitty idea, it was done by two shitty people that unfortunately have become obese and fucking lazy in the work they do. The prequels were utter underwhelming trash. GL was trying for a goddamn mulligan with IJ and instead he stuck black thunder back in his ass and rode it like there's no tomorrow by introducing some shitastic character named Mutt as IJ son. I mean Mutt???? Who didn't stop this fucking douche and tell him that was a bad idea????? Spielberg and Lucas are just two guys sucking each other off over how "genius" they are. Hey look, Shite LeButtfuck is playing some shit character everybody, it worked for transformers why not us? I have a distinct feeling that if Mutt and Indy were real people Indy would cut his fucking dick and balls off for spawning something as douche worthy as Mutt.

  • May 10, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    Alex Trevelyan, you cockroach...

    by poeticwarriorII

    if you can't figure out why Shite LeButtfuck is disliked you've obviously not watched even a minute of this colossal douche bags "work", and I use the word "work" lightly here. This fuckstick has one character that he does in every movie he's in. It's the same cunty dunce why can't I get laid Jew Fro'd shit face aren't I so funny pole smoker character EVERY FUCKING TIME.

  • May 10, 2008, 6:25 p.m. CST

    GEEZ, WAIT FOP OFFICIAL REVIEW PEOPLE

    by Proman1984

    We all know this will be good anyway.

  • May 10, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST

    If by good...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you mean colossally mediocre and unneeded with a shitty bastard son character just like SR, then yes this movie will be fantastic.

  • May 10, 2008, 6:29 p.m. CST

    WOW Poetic Warrior

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Do you mean he's a movie star and not an actor? Thats what he's paid to do. I'm not a cockroach by the way.

  • May 10, 2008, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Poetic Warrior...

    by solobear

    Poetic Warrior is a juvenile and jealous fellow. He just wishes he could come up with something that could be one iota as clever or successful as Lucas and Spielberg. Apparently some dumbass in the past named Luke Spielberg rear ended his beat-up VW bug, and Mr. Warrior found out that the guy was uninsured. Now, he is forced to live with a sizeable dent on his rusty car. This has angered him to the point of vicious name-calling. Someone...please help him. For the love of God...DO SOMETHING!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 6:48 p.m. CST

    solobear I realize you've been living life...

    by poeticwarriorII

    with your head stuck up your ass and you sit around in your under wear playing nintendo in your parents basement and drinking Mt. Dew all day, but coming on here and trying to act like you actually have an imagination of some sort by making some lame retarded supposed insult about what car you think I drive because the zit you had on your nose this morning reminded you of Mutt and you've been jacking off to your homemade fan movie where you've pieced together all the Mutt footage you could get your hands on thereby enabling you to jack off unfettered and you've created a giant ball from all the tissue paper you've been using to catch your diseased puss ridden genetic material, is not a good idea. Fuck you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to waste what you try to call a life on typing some stupid dip shit message to me though you incredible cunty.

  • May 10, 2008, 6:50 p.m. CST

    I agree Solobear...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Mr. Warrior is an angry man. Maybe has no "lady friend" and is having too much "Sam time"(transformers joke).

  • May 10, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Shia...

    by solobear

    I've been reading Poetic Warrior's intense criticism of Shia LeBeouf. But I seem to be missing somethin. Poetic Warrior, you are a drama critic for...?

  • May 10, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST

    WOW Alex Trevelyan...

    by poeticwarriorII

    Next time try to say something worth replying too you fucking cockroach. You just answered your own question as to why there is so much hate you fucking douche bag moron.

  • May 10, 2008, 6:54 p.m. CST

    solobear WOW buddy that was awesome...

    by poeticwarriorII

    that was so funny damn, wow you really got me there you fucktard, I'm a drama critic for...? Oh man how will I ever recover from that one, phewww!! Man for a minute there I thought I was finished, you emasculated twat.

  • May 10, 2008, 6:56 p.m. CST

    PoeticWarrior2...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Did Shia dump you? You're VERY sore. I think Shia dumped you or you asked him out and he said he was flattered but unfortunatley he wasnt gay like you!

  • May 10, 2008, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Naw, PoeticWarrior is spot on about The Beef.

    by fiester

    If you don't sit there cringing and grinding your teeth every time that annoying little chump disgraces your screen you are either a deaf-blind man or else you are his fucking mom.

  • May 10, 2008, 6:59 p.m. CST

    Ah, Warrior

    by solobear

    You know so little, my mentally challenged friend. I'm actually married. My parent's live over a thousand miles from me, and I do not own a Nintendo, nor a video game system of any kind. I'm sorry to wreck your sick sexual fantasies, young man, but I am unfortunately unable to perform extreme contorionist movements which would allow me to stick my head up my ass. I don't like Mountain Dew, I prefer Diet Lime Coke, personally. And as far as wasting my time, any time I can insult some worthless piece of worm-ridden shit like you is no waste of time at all. It's all strictly for fun, fuckwad. When your daddy and mommy get done changing your diaper. let them know that widdle baby is gwumpy and needs to go beddy-bye before the big talkback monsters eat him alive.

  • May 10, 2008, 7 p.m. CST

    Yo Poet W2!

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Do you think they should have GayBots in Transformers 2?

  • May 10, 2008, 7 p.m. CST

    Oh...

    by solobear

    Your cockroach line is wearing a little thin, you feeb. Have someone hit the dictionary for you and try to find some new words to use.

  • May 10, 2008, 7:02 p.m. CST

    Gaybots...

    by solobear

    That's rich. That's right up the Poetic Warrior's alley, both literally and figuratively.

  • May 10, 2008, 7:03 p.m. CST

    By The way GAyBot poet...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    I think, reading all your posts, that the hatred is you. You hate yourself and all the bile you type is actually about you and your life. Am I close?

  • May 10, 2008, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Trevelyan

    by solobear

    I think somebody beat up poor P.W. today, and this is his unusual way of trying to find retribution.

  • May 10, 2008, 7:08 p.m. CST

    Yes Mr. Solobear...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    I think PW needs a hug. Do you need a hug PW?

  • May 10, 2008, 7:12 p.m. CST

    Onward...

    by solobear

    Well, it seems that, for some reason, our Poetic Warrior has departed for other realms, so I guess it's time to get back to the matter at hand. Here it is, 7:11 p.m. Keee-rist is May 22 ever gonna get here!

  • May 10, 2008, 7:15 p.m. CST

    Yes indeed

    by Alex Trevelyan

    It appears Pw is gone for now. Onward and upward indeed.

  • May 10, 2008, 7:17 p.m. CST

    SPEED RACER

    by solobear

    Have you, or are you going to see, SPEED RACER?

  • May 10, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Shia The Beef is a live-action Jar Jar Binks.

    by fiester

    Something something something The Dark Side. Something something something fully operational.

  • May 10, 2008, 7:21 p.m. CST

    Soylent

    by solobear

    Are you referring to SPEED RACER?

  • May 10, 2008, 7:40 p.m. CST

    I know I said this before...

    by Stevie Grant

    but I'm really hoping all the negative feedback about this movie is because the Indy-familiar viewers are watching this as an adult and not as a kid. Any Indiana Jones movie would be awesome if you were 12, (and most everyone here first saw them as a kid). Now re-watch any Indy film as an adult and see how they hold up. I'm really hoping the negative feedback is due to first seeing this film as all grown-up, hence not getting the same kick as a child or young teenager would. I hope I "like it a lot" like Derek.

  • May 10, 2008, 7:45 p.m. CST

    If scotsman HAS really seen the movie

    by misnomer

    he'll be able to answer this question. Indiana Jones cries in this movie-whats the special thing about the scene though?

  • May 10, 2008, 7:53 p.m. CST

    Stevie Grant Has hit...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    ..a nail on the head. Well observed.

  • May 10, 2008, 7:55 p.m. CST

    PLANT, MUTHAFUCKA!!!!!!!!`

    by Han Cholo

    Sorry but the movie was getting lukewarm to bad reviews so far, Paramount decided to send in an agent to get people to see the film. Still, I'm gonna wait for Talkback reaction, in otherwords, I'm gonna wait for peer reviews from people who I have flame wars with before I see the film.

  • May 10, 2008, 8:04 p.m. CST

    I believe you....

    by Alex Trevelyan

    ...because you're out there. Crazy like a fox. Maybe a relative of PW perhaps.

  • May 10, 2008, 8:06 p.m. CST

    scotsman75 and the capitol letters

    by CuervoJones

    Mongoloid of the year.

  • May 10, 2008, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Mutt Williams is da MAN!

    by solobear

    He be cuttin' cabbages with his sword like he cuts the cheese!

  • May 10, 2008, 8:08 p.m. CST

    MUTT'S SWORD

    by solobear

    This you can trust!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 8:09 p.m. CST

    MUTT IS KING!

    by solobear

    He posesses Excalibur, the Sword of Power!

  • May 10, 2008, 8:10 p.m. CST

    The pen is mightier than the sword...

    by solobear

    Unless it belongs to MUTT the MIGHTY!

  • May 10, 2008, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Do you like films?

    by Mr-J

    I have enjoyed films, cinema, the moving image since my parents took me to see Disney films back in the early 70's. I came across this site shortly after joining the internet sometime around Titanic. I find it terribly sad that any real critic or geniune dialogue about film on this site now resides with people who truly have lost site of what film is about. I saw 'Raiders' at the cinema. I was 12 years old. It made a similar impact to Star Wars on my young eyes. So many years later I look forward to number 4. I don't expect, wish or desire anything other than a couple of hours of entertainment. It's not going to change my life. I would truly like to meet the guy who said " George lucas raped my childhood", that sentence sums up all the problems with the present climate of fan obsession. George made my childhood and when Phantom came out I was no longer a kid so I didn't get it the same way kids did. I teach so I have some understanding of current trends and guess what? Kids loved Jar Jar. 30 years ago my father thought Star Wars was complete nonsense, I didn't. What I truly don't understand is the constant bile that some people need to leave on this site. I simply don't believe you truly like films. It's now got to the point that (and this is my first post) I can no longer look at talkbacks. Personally I'd moderate this site and pure nonsense would go in the bin. Sure if you don't like something then tell someone but leave your poor language and diatribe at home. Lucas and Spielberg owe you nothing. You have a choice about film. You don't like something don't go to see it.

  • May 10, 2008, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Sir Mutt

    by solobear

    Mutt is a Knight Templar!

  • May 10, 2008, 8:15 p.m. CST

    Mr.J

    by solobear

    Bravo, my friend. I feel exactly the same way. This place could use A LOT more talkbackers like yourself. It's okay to have some fun-check out the Mutt posts-but insulting others to the point of anger and trash talking movies that haven't even been released yet is a travesty to true film fans. Let these hate omngers spend their coinage elsewhere. I'll rest easier knowing that they and their ilk will not be attending the films I will be enjoying this summer, and for many summers to come.

  • May 10, 2008, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Wow

    by Herb West

    I'm out of it for a little while and everybody gets delusions of grandeur.

  • May 10, 2008, 8:40 p.m. CST

    You still here Solobear?

    by Herb West

  • May 10, 2008, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Indy Returns

    by kenichi tanaka

    I think Spielberg said it best ... He's making this movie for the fans. The problem is that everyone is expecting Indy 4 to be one of the best films of all time and placing those kind of expectations is unfair for this movie.<br><br> I think the important thing to remember is that this movie shouldn't be judged by how much better than the previous entries it's going to be but to judge the movie as another journey with our favourite hero.<br><br> The important thing to remember is that as long as the dialogue, the story, is decent enough, that fans get another change to join Harrison Ford as Indiana Jones, before he gets too much older and that we'll get the chance to get a long-time coming second trilogy, before Harrison Ford retires from the business.<br><br> I'm just going to be happy to join Indy for another adventure and hope that we get two more sequels to round off the series.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Our Man Flint

    by DangerMan

    Flint always sees things first and is a longtime spy for AICN. He was the one who first broke the news they'd recreated the Raiders warehouse at the Downey Studio. He's no plant.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:51 p.m. CST

    I didn't know Temple of Doom was a prequel..

    by King Conan

    I just watched it on USA network and decided to look up info on it on Wiki and it says it is a prequel to Raiders. It is set one year before Raiders. Wow, never knew. Learn something everyday.

  • May 10, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST

    I want every film I see to be good

    by Dark Knight Lite

    I cannot fathom why people would actively root for a certain film to be bad. TDK is obviously my most anticipated film of 2008, but that doesn't mean I want Indy to fail. On the contrary, I want all of 2008's genre releases to be good. What would happen to some of you if you actually enjoyed something for once? If that is out of the question, perhaps you should take your anger somewhere it can be channeled appropriately. Say Iraq, for instance. Dark Knight Out.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Derek Flint

    by malpaso

    Wow, a well-written review by a seemingly intelligent and knowledgeable individual...and he liked it! Are we supposed to believe this one, or the extremely negative mouth-breather reviewers from the past few days?

  • May 10, 2008, 10:17 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Seventh Seal

    by irritable

    Indiana Jones and the 400 Blows, Indiana Jones and the Wild Strawberries,Indiana Jones et un Chien Andalue, Indiana Jones and the Seven Samurai, Indiana Jones and the Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie. <p> Come on Lucas, you cunt, get serious!

  • May 10, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Grow up You Fucking Naysayers

    by kenichi tanaka

    Why are you fuckers believing all of this shit in the first place?<br><br> I don't know about you but I don't allow reviews from assholes who review shit here to influence whether I see a movie or not. Personally, I think AICN Reviewers are full of shit trying to spend their fucking time to convince everyone else not to see the movie because it doesn't meet up with their expectations of what a good movie should be.<br><br> I can you that the only influence AICN reviews have on me is their ability to a story of fiction. It makes for a good laugh.

  • May 10, 2008, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Alex Trevelyan, BWAAAAAHHAHAHAAHA...

    by poeticwarriorII

    oh man a gay joke, sweet!!! I haven't heard that in like 15 minutes you 10 year old cunt. Man oh man, can you whip out the fucking zingers. I just don't have a chance with the gay jokes and all!! Shit I think I'll give up and never come back you laughable nugget o'shit.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:06 p.m. CST

    solobear, you old fuck...

    by poeticwarriorII

    do you mean to tell me that being on the talkbacks trying to piece together that "wicked" insult you just tossed out there is better than fucking that diseased whore you call a wife???? I don't know exactly how fucking fat that dorito eating bitch is but her ass must look like a bowl of oatmeal when you pull off those specially made panties when you go to fuck that bitch. Tell me, when you take her for a walk do people often tell you after seeing that jiggly ass that it looks like two pigs fighting in a gunny sack? Are you often overwhelmed with wanting to take a spoon to the twats ass with your morning cup of coffee or are you a closet homo that's tired of being married to the pig you used to go shopping with? I know being old your fucking bunions are probably killing you but being an incredible twat on the AICN talkbacks is probably the last thing your rickety ass needs to be doing. In closing, fuck you very much for reading.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:08 p.m. CST

    kenichi tanaka you and Spielberg can both...

    by poeticwarriorII

    go fuck yourselves. If that ass hat was making something for the "fans" he wouldn't have put TheBeefer in this fucking thing and he wouldn't have it filled with stupid self-aware shitty old fart jokes.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:14 p.m. CST

    Stevie Grant I realize you and Alex Trevelyan...

    by poeticwarriorII

    are busy trading Dirty Sanchez's with each other but I haven't read a bigger pile of steaming bullshit since the last time solobear bothered writing anything. You're so goddamn stupid that you actually think you need to be 12 to enjoy an IJ movie?? I mean goddamn you're a fucking cocksucking ass wart for even starting that kind of apologist bullshit. You're truly a colossal fucking cunty. By the way when solobear arrives for the ass eating train tell him I said 'sup for me would you big guy?

  • May 10, 2008, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Mutt williams is this years...

    by poeticwarriorII

    Jason White!!!

  • May 10, 2008, 11:27 p.m. CST

    anyone could write a convincing review

    by misnomer

    ALL of the plot points are out- the whole movie is practically online if you know where to look. For example, one spoiler not mentioned yet SPOILER- Indiana Jones cries tears of blood END SPOILER. See? How the hell do I know that? i mustve seen the film! Ummm...no I havent.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:39 p.m. CST

    If there are to be more of these...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I hope to holy hell that 1. this ridiculous Mutt character is killed off or pulls a disappearing act ala Jar Jar Binks 2. George Lucas is kept clear the hell away from anything even resembling an IJ script 3. Spielberg goes back and watches Raiders so he can understand what the fuck he's trying to do.

  • May 10, 2008, 11:59 p.m. CST

    There is no reason at all for this to suck...

    by poeticwarriorII

    so when you've seen so much bullshit that gives you pause you would have to have no soul, or at least a very dumb one, not to be concerned that IJ has gone the way of Star Wars. Irrelevant bullshit. You would have to be one incompetent fuck to mess this movie up but it looks like it has been done.

  • May 11, 2008, 12:28 a.m. CST

    Mr-J

    by codymr

    Nice... Could not have said it better myself.

  • May 11, 2008, 12:35 a.m. CST

    SWISH

    by kolchak

    you just got MUTTROLLED

  • May 11, 2008, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Now THAT'S what I expected...

    by Disgustipitated

    The first reviewer a couple days ago sounded like a young punk, doped up on today's quick cut editing style and Matrix sequel CG effects, completely out of his element and having no clue what a serial is ("isn't that what I had for breakfast this morning?") much less the obvious inspiration they had on these films. It also, I might add, seemed as though he were out to derail the film's success. The second seemed more honest and straightforward than the first, but still not quite "getting it". This review is the first I've read that makes the movie sound pretty much as I've expected it to be all along. This guy is objective (a trait sadly lacking in these here parts) and above all he gets it. I can't wait to see it.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:02 a.m. CST

    Mr. J. too true, too true.

    by rbatty024

    I think too many people return to their childhood favorites looking to revisit the past. Unfortunately that time and place can never be re-earthed. Childhood was fun but it's over. I'll go into an Indiana Jones film looking for a well crafted film that entertains. I will not go in looking for a transcendent life changing experience. These days that kind of art is relegated to the James Joyces and Gertrude Steins of the world, not the, admittedly, well done Spielberg entertainments. This doesn't mean I won't be wary of the craftsmanship of the art, but I won't be looking for a lifechanging experience.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Jones: "I'm gonna blow up the Ark, Rene!"

    by Rocco Curioso

    Lucas: "I'm gonna blow up the franchise, fanboys!" I watched parts of all three of the other IJ movies today (thanks, USA Channel), having not seen any of them in quite some time. Very impressive. "Raiders" is arguably the greatest action-adventure movie of all time, and the other two certainly weren't lacking for humor, excitement, or entertainment value. Why does Lucas go out of his way to poop on not one but TWO great trilogies by cashing in on their clout nearly two decades later with pale imitations? Greedy bastard. I refuse to see this movie, and line that potzer's pockets with any more green.<P>Well, if the SW OT (non-Special Edition) hits Blu-Ray one fine day..... mebbe then.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Reminder: Ownage starts in 11 days

    by Proman1984

    This movie will own.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:56 a.m. CST

    Mr J is full of shit and so is anyone else...

    by poeticwarriorII

    that yammers on about 12 year olds and Indiana Jones. If that is the extent of your expectations you're an easy to please old twat that died inside a long time ago. If all you expect is a shiny object to "entertain" you for a few minutes go watch speed racer and quit pissing on the rest of us while telling us it's raining because you're full of fucking shit and stupid talking about transcendent life changing experiences you unbelievable emasculated twats.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:32 a.m. CST

    gotham_night

    by Rocco Curioso

    Lucas was responsible for deep-sixing Frank Darabont's script, which I'm guessing was a whole lot better than what will be unveiled on May 22nd. This is the same Lucas who insisted on scripting all three of the SW Prequels. His powers of judgement in that department are suspect at best. A bad script will send this new Indy movie right off the rails, and frankly, that's probably what you'll get.<P>BTW, don't add any salt to your popcorn when your dumbass is planted in the theatre on May 22nd, gotham_night. Your tears of disappointment will take care of that quite sufficently.

  • May 11, 2008, 4:46 a.m. CST

    Ipod trailer has even more footage!!!

    by pokadoo

    After I watched that trailer, I clicked on the ipod version, thinking i'd get the same thing on my ipod, but it's longer, has footage from all 3 trailers(including the tv teaser) and has a bit more dialogue. Marion even gets to speak! Pretty cool.

  • May 11, 2008, 6:10 a.m. CST

    You're a true warrior-poet, Poeticwarrior...

    by Merriman Lyon

    I haven't laughed so much in ages as at your put-downs of Solobear & Co. Your posts have more wit and imagination than Lucas has put into Indy 4, that's for sure. Keep 'em coming...<p>Looks like Solobear's wife sat her fat ass down on him to keep him away from the keyboard.

  • May 11, 2008, 6:17 a.m. CST

    Let's have more reviews!

    by Merriman Lyon

    Bring 'em on! The world has wised-up to Lucas' and Spielberg's latter-day mediocrity. I love the fact that even this one 'positive' review is more like a begging letter asking us not to be too critical of this wheezy old turd of a movie. After the prequels horseshit, people are now fed up with the trash Lucas is feeding us. I think that KOTCS ("Crystal Skull"? WTF?) will probably fail financially AS WELL AS critically. That's ANOTHER prediction from Merriman Lyon. You heard it here first.

  • May 11, 2008, 6:49 a.m. CST

    Greenhouse effect

    by Merriman Lyon

    Yes, this review is clearly a plant. You'd have to be a blind, blinkered, Lucas-loving imbecile not to see that. Luckily, there are none of those around.<p>Oh.

  • May 11, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST

    seriously...why so serious?

    by nefarius1

    I really don't understand what people are expecting. I know that I was never expecting a modern update on the franchise with 'Bourne' shaky cameras. I'm not expecting a revamp/reboot or realistic take like the current Batman films. I'm not expecting a deconstruction of our hero like Unforgiven. Hell, I'm hoping to feel the nostalgia, but I'm not expecting Speilberg/Lucas to turn back time to when I was a kid. What I'm looking forward to is another adventure with Indy in the style of last three. These were never high art films with political/social commentary. These were 80's summer blockbusters, some of the first. They're supposed to be fun and entertaining. Besides, if they did any of those things I mentioned and reinvented/updated or deconstructed it people would probably complain anyways. Some people around here are far too invested in these films. I mean to say your childhood was raped is ridiculous. Some people need to get past childhood and fucking grow up.

  • May 11, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST

    AICN got talent

    by nefarius1

    Here's an idea kids. Maybe AICN should have a contest and everyone here including the fine people who run this site can submit a spec script or plot summary of what they would have done if they were making another Indy film. Or perhaps a Star Wars film or even maybe something original. Then we can post them and every one can have a shot critiquing our fellow talkbackers work. There might be some really talented people on here. Then again I've read enough fan fiction in my time that it might be good for a laugh. It is so much easier to shit on something then it is to create after all. Alot of people can take an exsisting work and say "well, I would have done this". Can anyone come up with something awe inspiring original? How about it?

  • May 11, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Merriman, one thing sadder than -

    by Laserbrain

    - a blind, blinkered Lucas-loving imbecile is the twerp who's spent the last ten years of his life trying to convince said imbeciles of the fact. If this movie sucks I'll certainly be disappointed but I sure as shit won't be here in 2018 still foaming at the mouth about it the way you inevitably will.

  • May 11, 2008, 8:10 a.m. CST

    Well, it's easy to criticise, Laserbrain...

    by Merriman Lyon

    ....but what have YOU done in the last ten years to protect the movie-going public from having their childhoods raped and their wallets fleeced by frauds like Lucas? I have learned to THINK FOR MYSELF. I have FREED MY MIND from the blind, facts-ignoring hope and hero-worship direced at lucas and his dead franchises. AND I have pointed out that the emperor has no clothes so that others can free themselves too. I ask again: what have YOU done - except fall into line and become a Lucas apologist? When you have evolved into an independently thinking organism that is able to judge things independently of marketing campaigns, hype and nostalgia - THEN you will have a right to criticise me.<p>But we both know that's never going to happen. So back to the flock with you. You'll need to get sheared if you're going to survive this hot weather.

  • May 11, 2008, 8:25 a.m. CST

    Indiana Jones and the Shawshank Redemption

    by kwisatzhaderach

    could be a winner

  • May 11, 2008, 8:25 a.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST CALL FOR THE LUNCH SPECIAL

    by BringingSexyBack

    Shamoan!

  • May 11, 2008, 8:27 a.m. CST

    HOWARD THE DUCK KNIGHT RETURNS

    by BringingSexyBack

    Quack quack!

  • May 11, 2008, 8:36 a.m. CST

    I love how people like Roccio review films

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    before seeing them. Asshole, it's Spielberg, Lucas, Ford and Williams. This is what geeks should dream of. If you hate Lucas for the prequels, yes you are an asshole. They were made for kids. Always have been, always will be. The fact is parts 4,5 & 6 had better chemistry with the actors. Parts 1,2& 3 had the better plots. Lucas made his movies, not yours. Any cunt who hates on Indy needs his geek status revoked!

  • May 11, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    oh and merryberry lion

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    if you think this is gonna lose money you reveal how truly stupid you are.The last one was the biggest hit of the year worldwide. What, is everyone from the 80's dead? Nostalgia alone earns this 500 million worldwide.

  • May 11, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST

    Hey, Dirtyjokes, PLOT DOES MATTER

    by Merriman Lyon

    Remember that little slogan from Lucasfilm in 1999. This was before the awfulness of TPM was unleashed on the world. They were so full of themselves that they thought they were making fun of the Godzilla movie - that, bad as it was, was still leagues better than TPM.<p>The prequels had better plots????? Dirtyjokes, I will give you a million dollars if you will have a sticker made with EXACTLY THOSE WORDS, stick it on your forehead, and wear it for the rest of your life.<p>But back here on Planet Earth, teams of archeologists are still trying to unearth even the smallest fragment of a plot in the Star Wars prequels.

  • May 11, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST

    merriman

    by t40stunt

    so every time i come on here to track my soon to be new favorite movie your in the tb bagging on george ? i mean i know you got a ton of time on your hands after that restraining order he put on you for threatening to sodomize him but damn man get a fucking grip . and if someone hears from that punk poeticwanker let him know he's a classless little twit . someone oughta stomp him into a puddle of blood .

  • May 11, 2008, 9 a.m. CST

    I'D BE A HELL OF A LOT MORE EXCITED

    by BringingSexyBack

    if not for Shia. Ryan Reynolds as the son would've been great, or a return of Short Round and Sallah and maybe a love triangle between Indy, Marion and Willie. If you're gonna do nostalgia right and end Indy with a bang, that's how it's done. Not a lesser sequel to Crusade.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    I WOULD LOVE FOR SPIELBERG AND FORD

    by BringingSexyBack

    to do a non-Indy movie together. Maybe a present-day political thriller in the vein of Munich.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    poeticwarriorII, they ARE making it for the fans....

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    And, clearly, you are not one. When Indy 4 got greenlit, EVERYONE on these boards was complaining about how if Karen Allen wasn't in it, they'd boycott the film. About how if Marion, Indy's best gal, wasn't in the film, it'd be a complete stinkbomb. So, what'd they do? Ah, gee, nothing -- just cast KAREN ALLEN. I thought everyone here would be pumped about that, because that was CLEARLY done for the fans -- but they weren't. You, and many others, are still complaining about this film. I watched Raiders and Temple of Doom on USA last night, and the action is INCREDIBLY corny, Ford runs like an old man at age 38, the action looks identical to the upcoming film, and the effects looked MISERABLE. That foregoing notwithstanding -- they were still a blast to watch. Indy movies are indy movies. This one looks no different. You just have an incredibly short memory. Most people here do. It's sick.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:07 a.m. CST

    REWATCHED RAIDERS AND TEMPLE TOO

    by BringingSexyBack

    Temple the far better movie. Raiders had better cinematography. Marion returning is great, just spoiled by Mutt.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:11 a.m. CST

    ANd about Shia!.....................!!!!!!

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    It's ABUNDANTLY clear why they cast him -- for the kiddies. Look, this is the dude from even stevens, the dude from holes, the dude from transformers. All of the nickelodeon-watching kiddies out there LOVE this guy. Hate him as you may, THEY love him. This move WAS done to get kids to see the movie, and it's going to work. Everyone else knows who indy is, and they're all pumped about it. I havent talked to ONE non-geek who isn't completely jazzed about this film. Indiana Jones is universally loved by almost every film goer on the planet -- seriously. He has no demographic. He appeals to men, women, the young, the old, etc, etc, etc. Rare is a character or a film franchise that has that kind of power. This movie is going to be both ripped apart and praised by critics, and the heavy majority of the film-going public is going to eat it up like candy-coated candy. Like I said before, the short memories of people on this site KILL me. And for the record, PINEAPPLE EXPRESS (can't wait for the 12432342342342342 site reviews on that one) has nothing on Harold and Kumar. Why, you ask? N.P.H.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:11 a.m. CST

    DURING THE TRUCK SCENE IN RAIDERS

    by BringingSexyBack

    When Indy was hanging off the front, why didn't they just all stop and shoot him?

  • May 11, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    I DON'T THINK INDIANA JONES APPEALS TO THE NEO-NAZI DEMOGRAPHIC

    by BringingSexyBack

    I might be wrong, but I don't think so.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack....

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Same reason there wasn't any blood on the cockpit window of the plane after the nazi brawler got mauled by the propeller....eeven though there was blood in the previous shot. It's a silly movie. But I'll be damned if it's not the best intentional popcorn film ever made.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    IF MUTT USES ANY OF SHORTY'S LINES IN THIS MOVIE

    by BringingSexyBack

    Someone's gonna fucking pay.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST

    JARJARJOCKSTRAP

    by BringingSexyBack

    I'm just playin'. Although the propeller thing was a bit excessive.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Jesus Christ, Merri, you're gone, gone, gone.

    by Laserbrain

    I don't belong to any "flock", Merriman. I'm nowhere near a "Lucas apologist" (By Christ I'm sick of the moronic fanboyish hyperbole of that term). I told you directly in one of the previous talkbacks that I thought the prequels "blew goats"; surely you can put this insane fantasy of yours that I actually admire George Lucas to bed by now? I just now explained to you that if this film sucks (and I'm adult enough to concede the possibility; I have from the get-go) I will be disappointed. That disappointment will linger about one day. Then? I will get on with my life. I will probably pop by to register my pique with all of you and to be thoroughly entertained in watching you thrill to the fanboys' lamentations while doing a little jiggy-jig in front of your computer, cackling girlishly in surrogate sexual pleasure, secure in your "superiority" over the Lucas-o-logists. (I'm proud to be called the first, you honour me, Great Sage) What a grand achievement that will be! What a Victory! You know, I think you should take this valiant crusade of yours to the streets, Merri. Print up some flyers, scribble your lunatic, irrelevant manifesto about the evils of Lucasfilm onto a moldy sandwich board and hit the multiplexes on May 22. There's plenty more endangered childhood hymens out there in the urban centres for you to save. So get to it, Mighty Saviour! I double fucking dare you. Let's see how far your deranged sermonizing gets you with the man on the street.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    The propeller thing...

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Was AWFUL editing. So, yes, even the the holiness that is raiders had continuity errors. It's just a frigign' popcorn film, and that's why i dont get the hate around here. i DID get the star wars hate, because star wars is a religion to some, and they had an actual plot they had to fill. this film is a sequel that was done for pure fun.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Thanks Scotsman

    by AntoniusBloc

    Probably the most honest and accurate review we'll see on this site about the film, and most entertaining, lol

  • May 11, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST

    Okay, Laserbrain....

    by Merriman Lyon

    You and I have no quarrel then. Perhaps I will take the campaign to the streets. Good idea. I'll still come here though, to smash through the apologists' delusions.<p>Already doing my jiggy dance, Laserbrain - from the moment the reviews started posting. Is my celebration a little premature? Perhaps. But I'm so confident that I was right - and so encouraged by these initial reports - that I have allowed myself to declare victory a week-or-so earlier than planned. But you can't really blame me, can you? After all, this is the culmination of my campaign for the last six months - against the deafening bleating of the die-hard Lucassheep - who have been declaring that this movie" will rock!" from the second it was announced.<p>But when all the other reviews start pouring in next week, by God will I be shouting 'I TOLD YOU SO!' from the rooftops! So be sure to join me here on AICN for my full-blown victory extrazaganza. You ain't seen nothing yet.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    Good review! and pretty spoiler free too.

    by FILMFUNK

    I can't say I agree with you about Raiders not engaging the emotions especially when compared to Superman 2 which is Goofy SHit! But I just watched Lost Ark again about an hour ago and it's bloody perfect and highly emotionally engaging, well written, performed, directed and just about the best action adventure film ever (star wars pips it if SCi-Fi's your bag) Anyway I'm glad to read things like - <P>''The crystal skulls ET origins are dealt with from an archeological standpoint so, it’s consistent with the previously established Indy mysticism''<P>''I viewed it as a second trilogy all rolled into one, they went for broke with nonstop set pieces that remind us Steven Spielberg can easily best any current action director''<P>''I’ll look forward to seeing it again with friends and having a good time. Sometimes, that’s what a good movie is for'' <P>Can't wait!

  • May 11, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Merriman...

    by Rando Calrisian

    I think I speak for everyone here who visit AICN once in a while to see what's going on when I say - You need to get a FUCKING life. I just don't understand your glee at saying "I told you so" about a movie "sucking" that you haven't even seen. Even if the movie does "suck" it doesn't make you any less of an idiot. The "I said it sucked first" rationalle that you have regarding Indiana Jones just means that you were the first person to be an annoying pimple of the ass of fandom. So enjoy it while you can. Some of us enjoy these movies for what they are - MOVIES. <br> <Br> BTW I would love to know what your favorite movie is of the last 10 years. And don't go safe with Iron Man, or The Matrix... You know you have some favorites that are all yours. Let us in on what makes Merriman Lyon tick. Obviously you don't enjoy Indiana Jones, in fact you seem to have it out for the man in the hat. Or better yet, inform us of the amazing films that you have been involved in creating... We'd all love to hear about those.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Agent Johnson...

    by Merriman Lyon

    It's an okay attempt at parody, but it COULD be better. Put a bit of humour in it, will ya? If I had the time to parody your ass, you'd better believe it'd be hilarious!

  • May 11, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST

    RAIDERS cannot be topped.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I've said it before and I'll say it again - it's the best out of the three. The tone, the look, and the fact that it contains more iconic moments then the other two combined make it one of the most perfect movies of all time.<P>For me, TOD is what took the character into pulp territory. (RAIDERS never had that feel.) And while there are some great set pieces and laugh-out-loud moments (the guy getting knocked out by the sledge-hammer is a personal fave), it's tarnished by a silly badguy, the ever annoying Willie, decidedly rougher violence, and some garish lighting, editing and special effects. I think it's the most uneven of the trilogy and the one responsible for the seeming "turnaround" brought by THE LAST CRUSADE.<P>And with all this early, bad pre-pub for CRYSTAL SKULL, I really don't want to have to wish that CRUSADE's final image would have been Indy's last.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:52 a.m. CST

    speilbergs and lucas's KOCS will own you!

    by Anakin_Piecocker

  • May 11, 2008, noon CST

    Im tired of people telling me Im not a kid anymore

    by romanocc

    A good movie is a good movie, and it isn't about being a kid or a nostalgia thing. How come we were all adults and enjoyed LOTR's trilogy? How come people enjoyed The Matrix? The same people that loved Star Wars and Indy loved those movies cause they were good. I know a bad or average movie when I see one. I saw Superman IV in the mid 80's and it sucked then and sucks now, and being a kid and an adult now has not changed my opinion for 20 years. I knew in the late 80's that Raiders was the best of the Indy Trilogy, I knew that Star Wars & Empire were the best, and I knew that the PT was not that great, and was living off the Star Wars name. I am not going to give my opinion on Indy IV til I see it, but please stop telling people they can't judge a movie cause were not kids anymore. There was a reason Star Wars & Raiders were loved by kids in '77 and '81 and still loved now by the 30 somethings: THEY ARE GREAT MOVIES FOR THEIR GENRE!!!!

  • May 11, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    You are absolutely correct, Mr. Nice Gaius

    by Rando Calrisian

    Raiders can never be topped because it was original. The sequels have poked a lot of fun at the characters, and while they are still fun movies, they don't take themselves as seriously - but lets face it even Raiders did not take itself too seriously. When Spielberg made Raiders, he was, in my opinion, at the absolute top of his game as an original film maker. To that point, he hadn't made any sequels, or been a part of any sequels. <br> <br> That said, I still love the Indy sequels because of the fun they have with the character. They still deliver fun set pieces, and excitement. The new one looks to be more of the same... and I mean that in a good way.

  • May 11, 2008, 12:16 p.m. CST

    Agent Johnson...

    by Merriman Lyon

    ..Now that's what I'm talking about. The image of you in your balerina outfit elicited a chuckle. The rest wasn't bad either.

  • May 11, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    romanocc

    by Rando Calrisian

    You are right - a good movie is a good movie. However, there were a lot of people older than we were when Star Wars came out that just didn't get it - didn't see what the big deal was - to them it was just a movie. There is an ability to accept things in movies when you aren't quite as jaded as we become as adults. If we had been our age now when Star Wars first came out - who knows what we would have thought of them. <br> <br> Back when I saw Star Wars and Raiders in the theater, I didn't know about film-making techniques, didn't know about the things I sometimes think about when watching movies today. Because of these films, I studied the art of film, and now have different views as to what makes a great film. <br> <br> They seem fewer and farther between now-a-days, don't you think? But your comparison to LOTR and The Matrix is good, because those were good films that took us beyond the ordinary. <br> <br> I hate the idea that getting older has changed my views abut movies, but it obviously has a bit. Once in a while something comes along and blows your mind - usually something that was slipped under the radar. I'm totally looking forward to Indy, but I accept that I know too much about it already for it to take me by surprise. <br> <br> AICN is great to talk to other fans about film, but it also kind of ruins some of the excitement of going into a film blindly. A tradeoff, I guess.

  • May 11, 2008, 12:40 p.m. CST

    Why does everyone shit on Lucas

    by _SnakePlissken_

    If it were not for him there would be NO Indiana Jones or Star Wars.. leaving some of you nerds with a very empty, hollow life

  • May 11, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    My biggest fear is...

    by _SnakePlissken_

    that George and Spilbergo are breaking in TheBeef in this movie so they can pass the Indy reigns onto him afterwards..

  • May 11, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Rando Calrisian

    by romanocc

    I understand what your saying about older people not getting alot of movies we grew up with, but I have to disagree with you about Star Wars in 1977, EVERY age group loved that movie. Heck, my mom and my older brothers loved it and they HATE Scifi/Fantasy movies, but for some reason Star Wars, and its good vs evil story really touched a nerve. Now as for getting older, are we more cynical in our older age about sequels/prequels then we would be when we were kids? Yes, alot cause of the interent, alot cause of DVD's, and alot cause we are not naive anymore, as times have just changed. But after I got a DVD, I pretty much bought all the movies I loved as a kid, and I realized the originals of all these series really hold up: Back to the Future, Raiders, Superman:The Movie, and Star Wars, and the rare exception was Empire. So, in a sense you're right that as a kid, I probably didn't go in with predosposed notions that these sequels would be inferior, but I look back, I felt that way back then, but I guess we didn't have them on DVD/Video sitting on a shelf next to each other and compare. I just watched them on HBO a zillion times, and kinda took them for what they were worth, and realized Return of the Jedi just wasn't as great as Star Wars.

  • May 11, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Rando Calrisian (part 2)

    by romanocc

    As for what is a great film, Star Wars/Indy/Superman/BTTF are all from a genre where they are not going to be considered 'artsy' in a sense of that great filmaking, but that doesn't mean their bad movies, or not great movies, they are entertaining in a different style. Is Schindlers List a better movie then Star Wars? Yes and No, it has better acting, a more deeper story that resonates, but Star Wars is not trying to be that type of drama, so you can't compare the two. Is Schindlers List a great movie, most definitely! If I had a choice on a Sunday afternoon, would what I watch: Star Wars in a second, cause it is a fun AND a well crafted movie with a touch of drama, comedy, and mythology. Movies like Independence Day are the movies that are pure crap and all eye candy, and those are the problem with this genre, not Star Wars.

  • May 11, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    Romanocc, I agree completely that a film can cross...

    by rbatty024

    generational boundaries. I think the "you're not a kid anymore" criticism is aimed at people who want the same experience watching these films that they had when they were seven years old. They're chasing the dragon. Looking for that first hit. As the get older and it never arrives they become jaded and cynical. To them everything sucks because it does not pass the nostalgia test. <p> I agree that a surprising number of my favorites from my childhood hold up, but I enjoy them differently today. I can recognize the craftsmanship and talent involved in these films. However, I no longer go into them looking for the same experience I had when I was younger. <p> When I go see Indy 4 I'll be looking at how well the film entertains and the talent of the filmmakers. I will not go in looking for the same experience as watching Raiders for the first time as a child. If it's a good movie then that's great, and if it sucks then too bad. I always have the original. What I'm not going to do is make a claim it absolutely sucks long before I've see the film.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    I love Spielberg movies but for some reason,

    by Orbots Commander

    to me at least, this new Indiana Jones film has JURASSIC PARK: THE LOST WORLD and HOOK written all over it, i.e. a lesser Spielberg effort.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    Why does everyone shit on Hook?

    by kolchak

    Have we all lost our whimsey!?

  • May 11, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Because Hook is a mediocre movie, at best?

    by Orbots Commander

    Could be.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Rando Calrisian

    by romanocc

    See I don't think we changed, I think movies have changed, unfortunately alot for the worst. Every time period of movies has one great genre: The 40's had the romatic movies like Casablanca, African Queen, the 50's/early 60's had epics like Ben Hur, Lawrence of Arabia, the early 70's had gritty movies like Serpice, French Connection, Dirty Harry, and the late 70's/early 80's had Fantasy without CGI like StarWars, Raiders, and Superman, and post Jurassic Park it is the age of CGI and those movies just aren't made for our generation like Raiders wasn't made for the older generation that loved Casablanca. I still contend that Star Wars/Raiders/Bladerunner/BTTF/Aliens/Wraith of Khan is the best time period of those types of movies where the directors had to have good characters and a good story, cause they didn't have CGI to fall back on. Of course there are still great movies from this genre as I hope Dark Knight could be one of them, but again, there are more CGI-fest movies that are a series of quick edits, stupid humor, and one dimensional characters, and that is what this generation of kids are going to stand by when they are our age.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST

    On what level?

    by kolchak

    I think that people who hate Hook just don't have an affinity for the story. They don't like the idea. It's certainly not bad on the level of cinematography. It's not poorly written. It had a great score. It gave a fresh spin to a familiar story. The performances weren't particularly bad.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Also, Romanocc, what you just wrote reminded me...

    by rbatty024

    of a statement made by the anthropologist Claude Levi-Strauss. He was talking about old myths compared to modern art and compared them to stone age and bronze age tools. He said that both tools have the same amount of complexity but are merely made out of different material. Therefore, you should judge the complexity of their craft, instead of what they're made out of. I think this applies to entertainments like Star Wars and dramas like Schindler's List. They're just made out of different material, but the craftsmanship can be just as complex in either.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    Rando Calrisian

    by codymr

    I'm not sure I agree that Spielberg was "...at the absolute top of his game" when he made ROTLA... Although Raiders is one of my top 5 films of all time and I would have to say that the years from JAWS to IJATTOD was the golden era of Spielberg... the film he made before Raiders, 1942, was a stinker - even Spielberg admits it. It was a real risk for Lucas to hire him for Raiders after the financial and critical mess 1942 was. Many studio execs thought his directing career was done. Raiders was a "comeback" after a career ending stumble.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    OK...

    by codymr

    I'm a dumb ass... "1942" should read "1941"... I guess that's how forgettable that film was.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Merriman Lyon, I can't believe they...

    by poeticwarriorII

    ran the fuck off just when I was getting warmed up. Shit I was hoping solobear would post naked pics of his wife's moose knuckle for us but alas, it is not to be! Perhaps we can both enjoy some solobear ranting later today though!

  • May 11, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    jarjarsjockstrap, you dick wart biting...

    by poeticwarriorII

    miscreant, if by "you're not a fan of IJ" you mean I don't want to see a disaster of a movie like TPM or any of the prequels, or you mean I don't wanna see some useless feminized cunt like Shite LeButtfuck stammer his way through a movie he clearly doesn't belong in, if you mean I don't want to watch a goddamn two hour commercial for the useless twat filled spin-off that if this movie suceeds to earn money will surely come, if you mean I don't enjoy sitting around jacking off to pics of Indy hugging Mutt all day with some shit for brains vaginal prolapse like yourself, if you mean I don't want to see Spielberg and Lucas release one more goddamn ignorant DVD boxset of IJ while shitting on HD, if you mean I think people like you that live life somewhere in your colon next to the twinkie you ate last night while watching Tron for the umpteenth and posting on AICN some diseased pussy bullshit, then yes I am DEFINATELY NOT a fan. But hey you're a true fan so feel free to look like an ignorant bukakke loving ass pirate.

  • May 11, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    _SnakePlissken_, Spielberg and Lucas...

    by poeticwarriorII

    have certainly been "breaking in" Shia in more than one way during this movie. I'll agree with you that his involvement here smells like an anchovies cunt. They've got plans for the Jew Fro, and those plans are going to be bullshit. And while you can feel free to felate Lucas if you wish, his recent tinkerings have ruined everything he worked so hard to establish. He's negated himself and his work by the abominations he's created over the last 15 years. But yeah, thank god for Lucas.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST

    I'll tell you what Coughlins Laws...

    by poeticwarriorII

    You're full of shit when you say more people like the prequels than hated the prequels. You must live life up your ass to spout shit like that fuck nut. If those movies didn't have Star Wars attached to them Lucas never would've had the money to do the other two. If TPM had been done first, Star Wars wouldn't even be a blip on the radar because that goddamn movie was fucking rancid sloppy bullshit that needed a shitload of excuses to support it. Star Wars is DEAD. Stick a fork in that shit. When this shitty cartoon falls on its ass and that goddamn live action series gets canceled after 4 episodes maybe you'll learn, but I doubt it.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    YackBacker...

    by poeticwarriorII

    hey obvious dripping PC cunt, how are ya? Jesus, grow a set of balls will you fuckwad. Get a second goddamn job or masturbate more, whatever will help your sorry ass be not offended by every little thing you fucking worthless cunt of a man. You're such a pussy I bet your father castrated himself after he took one look at you, you fucking Jew Fro lover.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Poetry

    by Talcy

    Someone ban this racist fucker please.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    Talcy fuck you cum stain...

    by poeticwarriorII

    if that is racism to you then you should go over to Yackbackers house and join in with the taint licking party he's throwing today. You're a worthless fucking maggot you easily offended twat. Maybe you two can start your own homo prostitute service, Rim Jobs-R-Us. Fuck you very much for your opinion though you leg humping dip shit.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST

    You said it, PoeticWarrior...

    by Merriman Lyon

    You are my f***ing hero at the moment. Tears of laughter are streaming down my face. Now that's what I call telling 'em where to go.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    Coughlin Laws, I have to disagree

    by romanocc

    I think the internet brings out the real hate and love of the Prequels that I don't see in everyday people I talk to. Most people I know don't hate them, nor love em, they have just kinda moved on, and if they were diehard SW fans, they either tried to like them, or thought they were OK. Most people I know think SW & ESB are the best of the bunch, then kinda like ROTJ cause it still has all the characters, probably think ROTS is the best of the PT, only because it has 60% of the backstory(quoted from Lucas) and TPM & AOTC have their moments, but are too cluttered with Jar Jar, Jake Lloyd and that awful romance, and really don't hold replay value. My friends kids don't hate the Prequels, but they dont hate anything at that age! They look at them as 6 movies, but I know for a fact they enjoy the OT more, and the only PT movie they get juiced about is ROTS. SW-fandom is the only one that dissected and second guessed, as most people agree that Godfather III is the worst of the trilogy, Superman III & IV suck, why do people have to defend the PT by saying, "The OT had shitty dialogue and bad acting, etc. If it had that, why would have anyone loved em?

  • May 11, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST

    is jew-fro racist?

    by _SnakePlissken_

    its not like he said kike-fro

  • May 11, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Franchises die

    by kolchak

    when they've been marred to the point where they leave a sour taste in fans' mouths. Superman is fucking dead. Die Hard is dead. Parody movies are dead. Star Wars, like it or not, is dead. Any attempts to return them to the pedestals they were once on will fail.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Merriman Lyon, most men have no idea...

    by poeticwarriorII

    how to be anything but yammering old women that piss and moan and cry foul then sit around with their fingers in their twats waiting on someone to rescue them from the awful things that have offended their womanly sensibilities. Everything's a fucking offense to these cunts but they all sit around waiting on someone else to do something for them. But I am glad you can get a chuckle at their expense, somebody needs to. They are awfully funny at the end of the day and this is such good sport.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    _SnakePlissken_, no shit...

    by poeticwarriorII

    perhaps I should have said "people with HUGE noses-fro" or "dudes with sweet ass side-burn curls-Fro" or "people against baby Jesus-Fro", you know something more sensitive to the women folk on here. I suppose Heimi-Fro is right out?

  • May 11, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    And me, Merriman, and Snake are still...

    by poeticwarriorII

    waiting on someone to tell us exactly why and how Jew-Fro is racist, since technically he is Jewish and he does have one massive Fro going on. He looks an awful lot like Kyle Schwartz come to think of it.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    speilbergs and lucas's KOCS has balls!

    by Anakin_Piecocker

  • May 11, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    romanocc & codymr

    by Rando Calrisian

    You both make great points. And I agree that all of the films you mentioned still hold up, and I love all of them too. Maybe the problem lies more with the amount of product that has been coming out since the boom in the 80's. A lot less originality, it seems. Or at least you have to sort through a large amount of un-original bad content to get to the good stuff. If that makes any sense, I don't know. <br> <br> As for 1941 - I actually enjoy that movie for the giant mess it is. There are some pure classic scenes in that movie. Then there is all the other stuff. Maybe not "top of his game," But Jaws, CE3K, Raiders, ET - That is the Wholy Quadfecta - within 6 years, Spielberg created 4 of the greatest theater experience movies in cinema history. <br> <br> But that was when going to the theater meant something more. I'm just as guilty - I love my home theater, and I have every Spielberg and Lucas film in the library along with classics from every era of film. I'm a film fan to the bone becasue of Spielberg and Lucas's work, and I probably do give them more of a benifit of the doubt - even through the prequels. <br> <br> I gotta admit, though Iron Man was a great start to the summer. Even with all the glowing reviews here, I still managed to love it. Saw it twice, and would see it again if it werent for there being a new movie out every freakin' week. <br> <br> Remember when Raiders played for MONTHS. Star Wars actually played for over a full year at the theater that had it where I lived. A full year. Now you get a week. Maybe two. <br> <br> OK, gotta go for a while. Good FILM discussion, BTW. Thanks for not calling my Mama a Ho or something... it is Mother's Day and all.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator, you've obviously got me...

    by poeticwarriorII

    confused with your GF's diseased cunt. You know I saw that bitch walking around in the mall the other day and for a second I thought someone was changing her oil, but then I realized it was just her chronic case of The Clap acting up.

  • May 11, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    this may 22 take someone u love to see KOCS

    by Anakin_Piecocker

  • May 11, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    Rando Calrisian, I agree...

    by poeticwarriorII

    1941 had some funny fucking moments in it despite its flaws. My favorite is when Wild Bill falls trying to get into his Warhawk. Now that was freakin' funny. And while Spielberg and Lucas have done some great things they have done some equally bad if not worse mistakes. Especially with their recent work. It's just gotten so sloppy and I can guarantee you that they surround themselves with people that tell them yes and brown-nose them.

  • May 11, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    TWO FACE LEAKED PICTURES (DARK KNIGHT)

    by Hellofadrug

    http://tinyurl.com/5u6su5

  • May 11, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    TWO FACE LEAKED PICTURES (DARK KNIGHT)

    by Hellofadrug

    http://tinyurl.com/5u6su5

  • May 11, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST

    solobear, is that you?

    by poeticwarriorII

    Pretending to be I am the Terminator or did you tell your mommy to come on here and defend your honor for you? I'm not sure if recycling ones own insult against him is technically an insult back, but if it makes you feel better then OK. I try not to pick on the retarded.

  • May 11, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator, dear god...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you are retarded. Let me know when you get something of your own Corky. Until then feel free to sit there with drool running down your chin while you shit yourself.

  • May 11, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    POETICWARRIORII, DEAR GOD...

    by I am the Terminator

    you are drippy. Let me know when you get something to mop that up, Drippy. Until then feel free to sit there with leakage dripping out your twat while you shit yourself.<P>NEW AND IMPROVED. AGAIN. PWNED!!!

  • May 11, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    poeticwarriorII -- you're the man now, dawg....

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Dude, enough. You seem to want this to fail, and I don't get it. yes, I get it that you don't like shia. OH, WELL. The majority of the movie-going public adores him. that's right, hombre -- ADORES him. The nerds on here hate him, but most people genuinely, truly like him. Sorry. Also, stop comparing this to TPM. It's NOT a Star Wars film, first of all. Second, it's being directed by arguably the greatest commercial director -- if not, the greatest director -- of all time. It's in good hands. Thirdly, tres, tre, this is an INDY film. I watched the triology on USA this weekend, and they are incredibly corny, silly, off-the-wall flicks. Yes, even raiders. The bad guys DO pause with confused looks before indy hits 'em with his grandpa punch, and indy runs like he has to take a crap. Dude, these films are pure fun -- nothing more. Raiders was simply groundbreaking, so it gets a lot more love than the rest. In conclusion, the spaghetti monster makes a cameo.

  • May 11, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Yes....YESSS....

    by kolchak

    PUNCH THE KEYS, FOR GOD'S SAKE!

  • May 11, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Indy's Worst Fear

    by kidchino

    Snakes are nothing compared to these blood suckers! http://hidensneek.com/2008/05/11/indiana-jones-greatest-fear/

  • May 11, 2008, 4:01 p.m. CST

    I hope the coat hanger guy is in this one

    by Anakin_Piecocker

    he was awesome in raiders

  • May 11, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Damn, I thought that was closer...!

    by Osmosis Jones

    That new Harry animation is genius.

  • May 11, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    RAIDERS OF THE LOST HIGHWAY

    by BringingSexyBack

    Cate: "We've met before, haven't we?" <p> Indy: "I don't think so. Where was it that you think we met?" <p> Cate: "At your house. Don't you remember?" Indy: "No, no I don't. Are you sure?" <p> Cate: "Yes, of course. As a matter of fact, I'm there right now." <p> Indy: *Wets his Depends*

  • May 11, 2008, 4:33 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF POON

    by BringingSexyBack

    "You betrayed Labia! Thum Labia Ke Vishwasth Karthe Ho! You betrayed Labia!"

  • May 11, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST MARMALADE

    by BringingSexyBack

    Marion: "Indy! We're out of marmalade!" <p> Indy: "Send Mutt to get some!"

  • May 11, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    i think mac and indy

    by Anakin_Piecocker

    will save this movie from shia and his mum being kinda lame. but overall i know i'll love this movie and watch it 50 times on bootleg before it even hits dvd like i did the prequels. i wonder how fans would of reactedif natalie portman was in place of shia like the rumors from long ago?

  • May 11, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST STARFIGHTER

    by BringingSexyBack

    Beta Indy: "Good luck, Indy." <p> Indy: "You too ... Indy."

  • May 11, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    NATALIE PORTMAN?

    by BringingSexyBack

    I'd be jacking off to an Indiana Jones movie for the first time, that's how I'd react.

  • May 11, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST

    me too

    by Anakin_Piecocker

  • May 11, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST

    but not for the first time

    by Anakin_Piecocker

    during the bridge scene in temple, capshaws temples were fine

  • May 11, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    RAIDERS OF KATE'S CAPSHAWS

    by BringingSexyBack

    Anything goes!

  • May 11, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF ZOOM

    by BringingSexyBack

    (Zoom zoom ...) <p> Zoom zoom zoom <p> Zoom zoom zoom <p> Yeah zoom zoom zoom zoom zoom <p> Zoom zoom zoom <p> Zoom zoom zoom <p> Yeah yeah ...

  • May 11, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    the Pathetic being known as Poetic Warrior...

    by solobear

    Just a word of warning to everyone on here. Don't waste your valuable time trying to talk/argue with the so-called Poetic Warrior. He either can't or doesn't want to try to hold a decent, halfway intelligent conversation about film, or anything else, for that matter. His sole purpose in being here is to incite bad feelings by trying to insult not only films but the people who make them and those who enjoy them. He has no intelligence whatsoever. And the worst part of it all is that if you get caught up in arguing with this fool, it's not hard to get one up on him, but all that does is fuel his particular form of diseased communication skill. If you don't agree with him, then you are his enemy, and he wills top at nothing to attempt to belittle and/or insult you, your family and the things you enjoy. If this sick freak turns up here again, ignore him. Don't give him the satisfaction of falling into his septic trap. He's just not worth it. INDIANA JONES LIVES!!!

  • May 11, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    POET'S OKAY

    by BringingSexyBack

    You can't take anything personally here. Just have fun with it.

  • May 11, 2008, 5:28 p.m. CST

    Hey, Solobear...

    by Merriman Lyon

    I think you're being a bit harsh towards Poeticwarrior. He may have made some light-hearted references to the size of your wife's behind, but then the girth of our wives'/girlfriends' posteriors is an issue that affects us all.

  • May 11, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you really should go buy some OOPS Vomit Sawdust Absorber for your womans bread making cunt. Her pussy smells like an anchovies twat stuffed with Limburger and left in the sun to rot. Just a hint dude, a foamy bush should not be used like a shaving cream brush. That's bad!

  • May 11, 2008, 5:43 p.m. CST

    jarjarsjockstrap, my dear hombre...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I don't know how the fuck you come up with a general public adoring Shite LeButtfuck. I mean if you're going to make shit up on the spot there's really no point in talking to you, but then again having a brain pan full of ass chili will sometimes lead to that. This dork is a loathsome annoying prick that has virtually no talent save for being a fellow Jew to Spielberg and having an afro the size of Solobears wife's ass. He plays the same fucking thing in every movie he's in. He's a one note POS that you alone seem to ADORE. So, I'll leave you to ADORE him by your lonesome with nothing but your moms fur coat and jergens. You then say that Indy is no TPM. Right, but if that is your sole claim that this can't be just as fucked up and bad then hombre, your argument is fucked. GL has been fondling and petting this franchise just as long as he has SW and considering both of these guys, and yes that includes your beloved greatest commercial director of all time, have lost what little mind they had left I think you're giving this franchise a little too much credit of being dumb ass proof.

  • May 11, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Oh, solobear you dumb ass half-wit...

    by poeticwarriorII

    You come one here spouting so much self-pitying horse shit it boggles the mind how you, being the pussy that you are, was able to find you're wifes hole without first rolling her in flour. You're so full of poor me I can only imagine the disdain your wife feels for you every time you slither into bed and beg for some ass while clutching at her with that casper milquetoast clammy paw. You point fingers at me like you're some bastion of talkback sainthood when I've got news for you shit head, I believe you used the term "word ridden shit" toward me. That's fair enough, go ahead, I'm more than capable of taking up for myself and replying to you in kind. But then when I do your vagina starts hurting and you come in here whining and pissing and moaning like the cunty you are. I can only hope your wife doesn't allow you to pass on the DNA you've been cursed with because the world doesn't need more people devoid of the ability to take care of themselves. We don't need more "men" who have to have their ass wiped by someone else and their twats douched so they don't get cranky and cry like a little bitch. If you can't take it you "divorce waiting to happen" then shut that cum catcher you try to call a mouth and continue crying yourself to sleep.

  • May 11, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST

    POETICWARRIORII...

    by I am the Terminator

    OOPS Vomit Sawdust Absorber? BOY, YOU SUCK!!! You know what you should do?<P>you really should go buy some sponges for your drippy twat. Your twat smells like an anchovies twat stuffed with Limburger and left in the sun to rot. Just a hint dude, a drippy twat should not be used like a bathroom mop. That's bad!<P>See how it's done? NEW AND IMPROVED! PWNED!!!!!!!!!!

  • May 11, 2008, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Crop Circle??????

    by StarTrek Apologist

    That't not a crop circle. Haven't you ever stayed up all night watching cheap, crappy UFO documentaries on the History Channel?

  • May 11, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack and Merriman Lyons are...

    by poeticwarriorII

    officially devoid of lady parts. They "get it" why can't you? Thank your mothers and fathers for raising you with some back bone and humor. Some of these guys sound like they are about to hang themselves over this.

  • May 11, 2008, 6:10 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator, while being retarded...

    by poeticwarriorII

    and devoid of any originality in the least, you are still funny in an "I can't believe he just ate his boogers" kinda way. I salute you!

  • May 11, 2008, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Oh God, that was brilliant...

    by Merriman Lyon

    Er, Solobear, we'd like to hear how you answer the charges regarding your bedtime activities. Is it really as colourful as Poeticwarrior describes? Please let us know.

  • May 11, 2008, 6:15 p.m. CST

    POETICWARRIORII, WHILE BEING STUPID...

    by I am the Terminator

    and devoid of any usefullness in the least, you are still drippy in an "I can't believe he can't stop his drippy twat" kinda way. I pwn you!<P>NEW AND IMPROVED! PWNED!!!

  • May 11, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    The reviewer just said what you wanted to hear

    by Gozu

    I don't really think that's objectivity. Also, what's interesting is that the negative reviews are seen as plants, whereas this one is taken completely at face value.

  • May 11, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    By the way solobear you can send...

    by poeticwarriorII

    those pics of your wifes hairy moose knuckle to uglybushytwat@oopsiknockedherup.com.

  • May 11, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST

    poeticwarriorII, my eternal sunshine....

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    The general public DOES adore Shia. I'm sorry, but it's true. Suburbia, Holes, Transformers, etc. were all hits, and that's the bottom line. Look, I think Julia Roberts is god awful, but the general public doesn't seem to feel the same way. Alls I'm sayin' is that the people who frequent this site are hardcore film geeks comprising .0001% of the film-going public. It's cool that you don't dig shia, but the reason he was cast in this IJ film was his marketability to kid folk and the general public. He's riding a pretty high wave right now -- I'm sorry.

  • May 11, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Rando Calrisian

    by romanocc

    Randy, nice to have a back and forth argument on the net without the name calling and the insults. I do agree that the theater experience has truly changed. The last film I actually had to wait a couple of days to see because we couldn't get tickets was Batman '89, the luster of waiting is gone, as most movies have a huge opening weekend, an OK second week, and then the next blockbuster is the hit of the week. As much as I love DVD and my home theater system, the fun of waiting for a movie to come on TV is over, and that was really cool growing up. Man, I waited 6 years for Star Wars to come to HBO in 1983, and THEN you would watch them everyday after school. There was something special when you would tune into HBO and you would see see the Lucasfilm logo and then hear the 20th Century Fox Music, now the movie is out on DVD in 4-5 months, and the anticipation is gone. Times have changed, and that's just the way it is I guess.

  • May 11, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    poeticwarrior II, i apologize...

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    I meant disturbia...

  • May 11, 2008, 7:11 p.m. CST

    FUCK

    by t40stunt

    poeticwankerII, the sad part about all your shit talking is i've worked with shia and he would knock your dick in the dirt .no doubt about it . you see you hide behind your computer screen talking smack about folks but your the same little runt that doesn't say shit to anyone out on the street because your still holding on to mommies apron . please , please i hope your sitting in the same theater as me on may 22nd because if you open your mouth i'm going bitch slap you . and lay off people's wives chief ,just cause you still dry hump your pillow don't give you the right to bag on real men getting pussy .

  • May 11, 2008, 7:18 p.m. CST

    ShogunMaster is a bigger idiot than George W. Bush

    by Mako

    QUOTE FROM NY TIMES: "The man who posted as ShogunMaster, reached via the Web site, said he is a theater executive who saw the film at an exhibitors’ screening this week. He spoke on condition of anonymity to avoid reprisal from the studio. Paramount had shown the film to a handful of theater company executives at its Los Angeles lot and elsewhere." What a moron!! I mean this guy is promoting negative feedback over a movie that his theater hopes to generate a butt load of cash from - and he pans it. I wonder if ShogunMaster has a chip on his shoulder. Maybe he wasn't invited to the screening and was so pissed - he decided to take revenge.

  • May 11, 2008, 7:19 p.m. CST

    jarjarsjockstrap, if what you're basically saying to me...

    by poeticwarriorII

    is that the general public is devised of a bunch of 12 year olds and ignorant twats that wouldn't know one tub of shit from another then yes, I think we can agree on that. That's something I suppose.

  • May 11, 2008, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Curious

    by DangerMan

    Since Derek Flint wrote a qualified positive review, saying he's not the biggest fan of the series, and just had a good time, people are calling him a plant that's being "defensive?" Sounded like a reasoned, well written review to me. ShogunMaster's review was crude and seemed to come from a low IQ.

  • May 11, 2008, 7:27 p.m. CST

    ShogunMaster is a moron Part Deux

    by Mako

    Actually what should happen is the CEO of the theater chain (Regal?) should fire his ass for lowering their profit margin due to his negative comments. Theater owners are just as bad if not worse than the studios themselves.

  • May 11, 2008, 7:28 p.m. CST

    t40stunt, I really don't care how many times...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you fucked Shite LeButtfuck in the ass, I'm inclined to think you really don't know what the fuck you're talking about and you're completely full of shit. I'm sure you also told him that those sores on your dick were just a special kind of french tickler, but hey, I understand you're protecting the honor of the ass you used to tag. You're one of those internet tough guys that likes to sound like a total douche by threatening physical violence over the internet and tell people lies about once upon a time I tagged this guy with a jew fro right in his poop chute. Thanks for playing and keep up all the good work twat. By the way tell us all which theater you'll be attending so you can hurt whoever shows up will ya? I'm really really interested fuck stick.

  • May 11, 2008, 7:34 p.m. CST

    t40stunt, and I really hope you can appreciate...

    by poeticwarriorII

    how completely fucking stupid you sound threatening me with some queer Jew beating me up and that you would help him. I mean, jesus, what are you 10? If only you were actually here, and if only you really knew LeButtfuck, I truly would love to see that.

  • May 11, 2008, 7:48 p.m. CST

    poeticwankerII

    by t40stunt

    hey dipshit don't believe me on either ... but i'll be at the arclight theater on sepulveda and ventura blvd. thur at 12pm thats in sherman oaks you little tool .i must have hurt you feelings though cause you seem real defensive . see you there tough guy .

  • May 11, 2008, 8:07 p.m. CST

    poeticwarriorII....

    by jarjarsjockstrap

    Well, the same public did shell out over $100 million to see The Fantastic 4.... Dude, I'm just telling you how the masses feel. Doesn't mean you're not entitled to your opinion. You are. You're still going to see the film, correct?

  • May 11, 2008, 8:44 p.m. CST

    Temple of Doom is an abortion...

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Just watched this absolute piece of shit. Painful & gloomy eperience. Reminded me of PoeticWarrior2. That cunt. There's nothing positive to say about this crap. Nothing. At all. Worst of the 4. Hands down. Its like PW2 mother and GL & SP said. "I wish I didn't have him". Every copy should be burned. Every single one!

  • May 11, 2008, 9:10 p.m. CST

    Second thoughts...on The Temple of Doom

    by Alex Trevelyan

    I've thought it through. I'm certain every single copy of the muck should be burned. Rubbish bordering on pornography at times with hearts being ripped out etc. Simply SHIT. 100% SHIT. The red end credits. Jesus! Steven. Fuck off! And thank god you married her and kept her off the screens as long as possible. No actress there little yo. None at all at all.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:13 p.m. CST

    Alex Trevelyan you are the real abortion. Fuck you

    by Proman1984

    and fuck you again. Temple of doom is awesome and you are a piece of shit. Fuck you you miserable and loathsome bitch.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:27 p.m. CST

    Rando Calrisian

    by codymr

    You are a class act. I too like discussing film without resorting to "mamma is a ho" and "masturbation in your mamma's basement" garbage... too much of that on talkbacks these days.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:29 p.m. CST

    You cynics can fuck off

    by I Dunno

    It's Indian fucking Jones, for shit's sake.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Its shit. 100%.

    by Alex Trevelyan

    Terrible piece of filmmaking. Its a con. Rubbish. Trash. Crap. Pooh. A mistake.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:47 p.m. CST

    painful & gloomy describes Last Crusade

    by Prossor

    not Temple of Doom. Awful gloomy score compared to Temple of Doom's score.

  • May 11, 2008, 9:51 p.m. CST

    The line "We...are going...to DIE!!!"...

    by Osmosis Jones

    ...instantly makes Temple Of Doom a masterpiece.

  • May 11, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST

    HANG ON TO YOUR POTATOES!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Best line since "Rosebud." <p> Hope everyone treated their mama good today.

  • May 11, 2008, 10:43 p.m. CST

    tod is good

    by El Borak

    PENIS.

  • May 11, 2008, 10:44 p.m. CST

    YOU CALL HIM DOCTOR JONES, DOLL!!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Pwns you all!

  • May 11, 2008, 10:45 p.m. CST

    HOLY SMOKE!!! CWASH LANDING!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    All your bases are belong to Short Round!

  • May 11, 2008, 10:46 p.m. CST

    INDY!! I LOVE YOU!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    *Stabs Indy with burning torch*

  • May 11, 2008, 10:46 p.m. CST

    poetic warrior

    by El Borak

    "is in a position UNSUITABLE TO GIVE ORDERS!"

  • May 11, 2008, 10:48 p.m. CST

    t40stunt, in the words of the immortal Ethan Edwards...

    by poeticwarriorII

    "That'll be the day.", I know you've never seen that movie because you're an illiterate bastard but hey, you're the tough guy mongoloid here. I also just figured you out Rocky, you're the poor dumb bastard with the shitty fucktard father that used to call him a pussy everyday because you'd come home with some big bull queers nut sack sweat all over your chin from being "forcibly" sodomized. I say "forcibly" because apparently there was an extra added measure of guilt because way down deep inside in places you don't talk about at parties you relished being taken by the back of the head and skull fucked. I know, don't cry big guy, it's not often someone looks deeply into another's soul and sees their gut wrenching pain and guilt so clearly, but I could tell by the way you were flirting with me and giving me your location you really did miss those days. Sadly for you I don't swing that way but you can't have everything. Now, down to brass tacks. Since you enjoy name dropping so much tell us all just what project you worked on with TheQueef? I'm interested and so are all of the talkback readers in seeing your work. If not, I understand a twat like you has to make himself feel special somehow. And since you're so free with personal info, drop your name and address in here so the next time I'm in Cali I can come by and knock out your old ladies front teeth with my cacker. It'll be more dick than the sweaty pigs had in a while I'm sure. And in case you were wondering your empty douche bag threats are cracking me up. In the history of twats on AICN you are certainly the twatiest. You're toolness is EPIC... EPIC shit bag. And for those of you who live in Cali, feel free to pay this shit heel a visit and have a laugh on him. He'll be the one out front shitting in his hand and throwing it at people.

  • May 11, 2008, 10:52 p.m. CST

    "drop them bsb!!"

    by El Borak

    "they will be found! YOU WON'T!!! HA HA HA HA!!!"

  • May 11, 2008, 10:54 p.m. CST

    Ten days people

    by Proman1984

    Can't fucking wait

  • May 11, 2008, 10:58 p.m. CST

    Alex Trevelyan, did you wake up this morning...

    by poeticwarriorII

    hunting the cat that shit in your mouth? I'm sure you did because of the ass eating contest you and solobear had with each other last night. I know you're a colossal cunty that enjoys being gagged with huge black dildo's and all, but you should really keep your self-loathing pent up a little more instead of coming on here and yammering on with lame ass "insults". You're nearly as bad at it as I am the Terminator. And he's making a concerted effort at being bad. And I don't know what kind of fucking snuff porn your pathetic ass is jerking off to but godddamn you should really go to a different store if that's what your getting shit bag. You're going to make your mother cry when she finds the tapes you've got stuffed under your mattress and really that's not fair to the whore.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:01 p.m. CST

    El Borak, are you trying...

    by poeticwarriorII

    to be my new friend?

  • May 11, 2008, 11:03 p.m. CST

    Proman1984 you summed it up...

    by poeticwarriorII

    perfectly, although Alex is more like an enema than an abortion. Just saying...

  • May 11, 2008, 11:06 p.m. CST

    YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, EL BORAK?

    by BringingSexyBack

    You will ... you will be ... a true believer ...

  • May 11, 2008, 11:07 p.m. CST

    hmmm

    by El Borak

    just treying to add to the conversation. star jones married a gay man. ha ha!!

  • May 11, 2008, 11:08 p.m. CST

    "SOME MUMBO JUMBO"

    by BringingSexyBack

    LOL ... scroll up for actual incantation ...

  • May 11, 2008, 11:08 p.m. CST

    bsb

    by El Borak

    "you will not do that!"

  • May 11, 2008, 11:09 p.m. CST

    jarjarsjockstrap, to tell you the truth...

    by poeticwarriorII

    if I get caught with a group that wants to go see it, I probably won't be the loan dissenting twat. But it won't be something I call people up to get them to go see. My anticipation bottomed out as soon as I saw that TheQueef was in it. Maybe if I was 10 again his smarmy "oh look at me I'm the quintessential American teenager" bit wouldn't wear me the way it does. But this motherfucker does one thing and one thing only and the only reason he's in this is because Spielberg has a fascination with untalented Jewish people.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:09 p.m. CST

    HANG ON LADY WE GOING FOR A WIDE!

    by BringingSexyBack

    He no nuts. He cwazy!

  • May 11, 2008, 11:10 p.m. CST

    POETICWARRIORII

    by I am the Terminator

    Quit dripping your twat all over this website.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:11 p.m. CST

    stares at bsb

    by El Borak

    "hahahahahahah!" rolls into secret compartment ....and goodnight.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Maybe if we squint real hard...

    by poeticwarriorII

    TheQueef will somehow look more like Shortround. That would be much more entertaining than watching him donkey punch his way to a broken wrist.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:14 p.m. CST

    LOL @El Borak...

    by poeticwarriorII

    dude you guys are cracking me up.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:17 p.m. CST

    MAYBE IF WE SQUINT REAL HARD

    by I am the Terminator

    poeticwarriorII will somehow look more like Willie Scott. Then it would be much more entertaining to watch him fist fuck his drippy twat.<P>PWNED!!!

  • May 11, 2008, 11:20 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator, speaking of fist fucking...

    by poeticwarriorII

    how was your mothers day?

  • May 11, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST

    MAYBE IF POETICWARRIORII HAD SOMETHING TO SAY

    by I am the Terminator

    instead of cursing every other word while attacking other people he wouldn't be so useless. Until then, he'll have to keep dabbing his drippy twat. Pee-yuu!!

  • May 11, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST

    POETICWARRIORII, SPEAKING OF FIST FUCKING...

    by I am the Terminator

    how was your drippy twat day?<P>PWNED!!!

  • May 11, 2008, 11:25 p.m. CST

    POETICWARRIOR SAID THIS...

    by I am the Terminator

    "Spielberg has a fascination with untalented Jewish people."<P>BOO!!! That's just wrong and you should apologize. That is if you can stop your drippy twat.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST

    I am the Terminator, maybe if you'd quit...

    by poeticwarriorII

    acting like you're 12 or retarded or incredibly eerily homosexual we'd pay attention to you more. As it is you just look like the cunt of the week yearning for someone to pay any kind of attention to you. By the way, did I tell you you're a cunt?

  • May 11, 2008, 11:27 p.m. CST

    MAYBE IF POETICWARRIOR DIDN'T ACT 10 YEARS OLD

    by I am the Terminator

    his smarmy "oh look at me I'm the quintessential American drippy twat" bit wouldn't wear me the way it does.<P>NEW AND IMPROVED. PWNED!!!

  • May 11, 2008, 11:29 p.m. CST

    By the way dumb ass...

    by poeticwarriorII

    Which colossal fuck wad are you normally since you're too much of a cockroach to use your normal handle?

  • May 11, 2008, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Oh wow, look another 12 year old response...

    by poeticwarriorII

    what a fuck up!

  • May 11, 2008, 11:32 p.m. CST

    c'mon I am the Terminator...

    by poeticwarriorII

    say it with me why can't I quit you?

  • May 11, 2008, 11:33 p.m. CST

    POETICWARRIORII SAID

    by I am the Terminator

    As it is you just look like the cunt of the week yearning for someone to pay any kind of attention to you.<P>Hey, we have something in common! That's exactly what I think when reading every single one of your posts. By the way, did I tell you you're a drippy twat?

  • May 11, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST

    YOU WISH YOU COULD QUIT ME, POETICWARRIORII!

    by I am the Terminator

    but your drippy twat mouth won't let you, will it. Oh, you're gonna love me.<P>PWNED!!!

  • May 11, 2008, 11:38 p.m. CST

    poeticwarriorII

    by Stevie Grant

    The point I meant to get across in my comment wasn't that adults can't enjoy Indy films, just that they can't get the same kick from seeing them for the first time as they did as a kid. It's not that I don't still enjoy Indiana Jones, I'm just saying I don't think I'm going to get the same kick from this new one that I got from the original Indy films I first watched when I was in grade school.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Arclight Theater, Sepulveda and Ventura Blvd, Thursday, High No

    by irritable

    EXT.THEATRE DAY<P> - A morbidly obese 40+ chainsmoking derelict glances nervously at a slightly built, heavily acned teenager in an INDIANA JONES SUX t-shirt. They sidle up to each other.<p> "Hey, are you, um, er, poetic ...."<p> "Yeah. Warm isn't it."<p> "Anyway man, seeya."<p> They walk rapidly away in different directions.

  • May 11, 2008, 11:59 p.m. CST

    irritable...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I realize you had a busy day of ass fisting your mother during your deliverance like holiday, but butting that brown stained lump you call a nose in where it doesn't belong is pretty fucking retarded at this point. Not only that but holy shit couldn't your dumb ass possibly think of something a little more original than the same shit sniffing stuff that's been said on here a thousand times, are you that goddamn dumb to regurgitate shit for the umpteenth time and expect people to laugh at it?

  • May 12, 2008, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Ooh, ouch -- all that puny hate, poeticwarrior

    by irritable

    Careful, I'll taunt you again!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Oh gee, that would be horrible...

    by poeticwarriorII

    because I know the fist time was so horrible I almost didn't make it, quit being such a cunty that's what Terminator is for. Fuck you for trying though, you unoriginal twat.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:07 a.m. CST

    <Yawn>

    by irritable

  • May 12, 2008, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Sorry, fell asleep

    by irritable

  • May 12, 2008, 12:17 a.m. CST

    Stevie Grant, I would've agreed with you...

    by poeticwarriorII

    especially after having been disappointed with those god awful prequels, had I not been so thoroughly pleased with Iron Man. Maybe those guys have gotten so old and so lazy that they just don't give a shit anymore. Whatever it is, their latest work has been less than stellar. Fuck, I hope I'm wrong. I hope I don't know what the hell I'm talking about but from watching those trailers and seeing TheQueef in full on Wild One, I'm not holding out any such hope. I have a bad feeling this is TPM all over again. Maybe it's just my intense hatred for TheQueef causing it, but I just can't help the dread of knowing he's horribly miscast in this as some bastard child of Indy. It's a forced ploy trying to capitalize on his "notoriety" and based solely on that. It's got nothing to do with his talent. And quite honestly I get the feeling that this entire movie is forced and pathetic from square one.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:18 a.m. CST

    A morbidly obese 40+ chainsmoking derelict

    by El Borak

    hey i'm only 30. oh wait, you were talking about someone else. shit.<br> <br>...fuck my life... and goodnight to yall.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:20 a.m. CST

    irritable, it's alright...

    by poeticwarriorII

    it happens.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:22 a.m. CST

    El Borak...

    by poeticwarriorII

    lol, until the morrow then.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:23 a.m. CST

    "a fascination with untalented Jewish people."

    by DocPazuzu

    Sounds like plural to me. Who are the other ones?

  • May 12, 2008, 12:25 a.m. CST

    TOD is the shit.

    by DocPazuzu

    Temple of Doom haters fail at life in the most basic sense.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:30 a.m. CST

    poeticwarriorII

    by Stevie Grant

    Strangely, I watched Iron Man earlier tonight. I'm not a fan of the comic book movies, but the cast kept me interested (Downey and The Dude were a lot of fun to watch, and Gwen was very pretty). And, yeah, Shia just pisses me off (despite the fact I can't think of one thing I have against him). More to the point, however, Harrison Ford is in his sixties: it's not the best time to bring up a son character/subplot angle into the franchise. But I'm not disagreeing about the forced aspect, I'm just hoping most of the negativity stems from people first seeing an Indy film as an adult, and not a 4th grader. Not like any of this matters, I'm still going to watch the flick within the first couple weeks.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:34 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu...

    by poeticwarriorII

    oh here we go, another dumb cunt that can't control himself when he "senses" someone with his pseudo-racist radar. Buddy, fuck off and die, you're two leg humping buddies already tried this once today so feel free to join them in their taint tickling party you yeast ridden pussy.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:37 a.m. CST

    No, seriously, poeticwarrior...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...who are the other ones?

  • May 12, 2008, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Stevie Grant, the one thing I know...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I dislike is the fact that he's done the same thing in every movie he's ever been in. He always plays this douche that feels out of place in the world and responds by stammering and yammering some silly shit supposedly meant to be funny. That's it, that's all he does. I've never seen him do ANYTHING else. He's going to do the same thing in IJ and quite frankly watching how Spielberg tries to force that kind of character into this movie is going to be painful. A shoe horned son plot coupled with gee I'm so old my prostate hurts comments throughout is just not what an Indy movie should be. It could've been more but it's not because GL still thinks he's smart.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:42 a.m. CST

    No seriously DocPazuzu...

    by poeticwarriorII

    eat shit and fuck off you PC cunty. Tell your two bf's I said hello when you get there twat.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:44 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, you better start getting...

    by poeticwarriorII

    your tongue limbered up, solobear said his asshole needs a deep cleaning you PC tree hugging cunt.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:50 a.m. CST

    It's Tourette's time again!!!

    by irritable

    Pottymouth

  • May 12, 2008, 12:55 a.m. CST

    irritable...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I thought you fell asleep? Are you having trouble letting go? Maybe your mommy will hug you and make you forget the bad man.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:57 a.m. CST

    I don't know

    by Stevie Grant

    I grudgingly give Shia some respect for that golf movie of his, cause I don't really have anything against the movie all in all. On the other hand, I just felt ashamed for typing that first sentence. And, yeah, Shia will be painful to watch in this movie, and so will Indy's interactions with him, and so on and so on. I just hope I can get past all that bullshit and enjoy a new Indiana Jones movie. DO NOT RESPOND TO THE FOLLOWING STATEMENTS (I don't want to debate it, and I know it will anger most of this site's regulars): but, I've never felt any loyalty to Lucas or Spielberg. Yeah, they've made some really cool films, but they aren't the end all be all of coolness... they just have certain (fanboy-dedicated) corners of that room.

  • May 12, 2008, 1 a.m. CST

    Jesus Wept! poeticwarrior

    by irritable

    It's like being pecked to death by a duck. (The "pecks" being, in this case, your modest lexicon of Cut'N'Paste poo taunts).<p> GOODFUCKINGNIGHT all.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:12 a.m. CST

    Stevie Grant, to be honest...`

    by poeticwarriorII

    i really do too. I love Raiders and this is another IJ dammit. But I know if this is more TPM than Raiders enjoying it is going to be really hard to do. I feel the same way about Spielberg and Lucas. They've done some great things but damn have they turned around and screwed it all up! These franchises would've been better had these guys had someone who wasn't afraid of telling them they just had a really bad idea when revisiting them.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:13 a.m. CST

    irritable, then perhaps your mother...

    by poeticwarriorII

    should give him a hug too.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:41 a.m. CST

    So what your'e saying, pooetic...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...is that his "fascination" is limited to a total of one "talentless Jew", yes?

  • May 12, 2008, 1:43 a.m. CST

    Gotta love the INDY TB's....

    by travis-dane

    Love flying everywhere.....

  • May 12, 2008, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Indy & Star Trek

    by Lloytron

    Interesting that this compares to Wrath Of Khan. Perhaps there will be another sequels with similarities to Trek? <br>Indy V: The search for the colostomy bag <br>Indy VI: The Voyage to the retirement Home

  • May 12, 2008, 3:09 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, what I'm saying cunt...

    by poeticwarriorII

    is that your two ass buddies were on here earlier trying to pull the same stupid shit as you, you fucking twat. We've been through this already although you're like a bitch I used to date that would sit around with her thumb in her twat trying to figure out what was going on and then she'd pop in and say some bitchy useless twatty thing and then she'd get pissed when nobody would pay attention to her. But it's a nice try, perhaps when your vagina quits hurting you and you learn how to google you won't be such a little whining bitch.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:12 a.m. CST

    and by the way DocPazuzu you ignorant fuck...

    by poeticwarriorII

    just because I won't be baited into naming names so I have to listen to you and your slutty sisters pissing and moaning about racism and Jew Fros for the next 10 goddamn days does not mean there is only one, you get it shit for brains, or do I need to spell it out for you a little more? Now please continue your cock sucking and ass eating. And way to wait until you think I'm ignoring you before you post cunt.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:24 a.m. CST

    I don't trust the opinion on an Indy film...

    by GilesT

    ...from someone who thought Superman I, II and the fucking Star Trek films were better than Raiders.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:45 a.m. CST

    Salemslut you do sound a litle bit stupid...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I see that although you're late to the party you can't seem to refrain from opening that bukakke machine you call a mouth to spew out some old tired fag joke. If you can't do any better than that I suggest you go back to picking the crotch crickets out of your minge and leave the jokes others. I'm glad you piped up though cunt, it was getting boring in here.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:28 a.m. CST

    Mr-J, common sense does not exist in AICN

    by CuervoJones

    You are damn right. Common sense does not exist in AICN

  • May 12, 2008, 4:42 a.m. CST

    poeticwarriorII

    by CuervoJones

    You need to have sex. NOW.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:51 a.m. CST

    The Empire Strikes Back

    by CuervoJones

    All of us love that movie. The characters walked into a giant space worm. That´s not less stupid than the fridge stuff in Indy IV.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:07 a.m. CST

    CuervoJones, I was going to but your mom...

    by poeticwarriorII

    was busy ass fisting the mail man when I drove by. Maybe, I'll leave a deposit with the dirty whore tomorrow. But I'm glad to see you're paying attention while your not busy sucking someones nut sack shit bag.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:09 a.m. CST

    Salemslut you dumb whore...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you're the lamest twat I've ever seen. Do another line of coke and stick that black thunder dildo back in your ass before your prolapse drops out again.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:11 a.m. CST

    PWanker

    by t40stunt

    yo clownfuck ... listen trying to pick a fight with you actually makes me feel bad . your like that little brother that tries to hide the fact that he's a raging homo and lets it all out on the world . to answer one of your above questions lets just say i'm real biased towards this flick . now i know you ain't going believe me but just read the last five letters in my login name and piece it into what i just said . thats how i know labeouf . yeah i know its hard to wrap your mind that industry folk are on here but hey we love movies just like anyone else and feel just as strongly in our opinions . one of mine is still the fact that he could stomp the crap outta you ...just saying . so go ahead call me a lair but find me on hear somewhere on the 23rd and i'll give you any info you might want and its unfortunate that you don't live in cali cause i'd have loved to rip off your stick arms and beat you down with them . maybe you can find someone on here that might want to defend your honor though . plesant dreams my little bitch

  • May 12, 2008, 5:34 a.m. CST

    So what you're admitting, pooethic...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...is that there are, in fact, no other "talentless Jews" you can think of in this regard, right? <p> You fail the internets.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:40 a.m. CST

    t40stunt not only are you a pathetic loser...

    by poeticwarriorII

    that enjoys lying about butt fucking celebrities, but you're also the most cunty "tough guy" I've ever seen. Is your twat hurting you again deary, is that why you're whining and crying and talking about how big and scary you are douche? Bwahahahahahaah, find you on here on the 23rd eh? Is that so you can post links to pictures with TheQueefs cock hanging out of the side of your mouth or are you going to tell us more insipid lies about who you're blowing next? Goddamn your the dumbest pussy I've ever seen. Go rub your clit a little more sissy and maybe you'll feel a little more like your old cunty self shit bag. And by the way you fucking redneck hillbilly I'm still waiting on your address so I can fuck your fat ass old lady while you're blowing your way to the top Hollywood. What a retard. And yeah you just keep posting shit heel I'll be waiting so very anxiously to hear what you've got to say. God know's I'll still remember your stupid ass by then you rancid pile of shit.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:43 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, nice try shit for brains...

    by poeticwarriorII

    go ahead and lick your own asshole if that makes you feel better, but you're still a fucking cunt whose father cries every time he sees what his loins created and you're still not baiting me into that fuck nugget. If you've got google use it you illiterate fuck and quit fucking t40stunt's ass so much.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:46 a.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE LAST LEMONADE

    by BringingSexyBack

    I'll have iced tea then, with a slice of lemon.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:46 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu you've got to be related to...

    by poeticwarriorII

    that Terminator fuck wad because you just can't quit me either. So just keep running that shit hole mouth of yours goat fucker.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:50 a.m. CST

    RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARBY'S

    by BringingSexyBack

    Indy: "I'll have two roast beef sandwiches. Wait, I have coupon."

  • May 12, 2008, 5:56 a.m. CST

    t40stunt bwaahahahahahaaha....

    by poeticwarriorII

    don't you know lies make baby jesus cry, irritable says so. Are you so fucking deluded that you can come in here spouting shit about yourself that isn't true? Do you actually believe the lies you tell as you cry yourself to sleep. And hey dicknose, don't wait until the 23rd if you're so goddamn tough up your name and address right now. Go ahead Hollywood flash it right up there, I mean hey you're the big bad used tampon lets see it Hollywood. You should at least post your phone number so I can call that fat pig your fucking and tell her I'm on the way you bucket of pig vomit. I'll be waiting with bated breath ass hat.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Google what, exactly, pooethic?

    by DocPazuzu

    "Spielberg's penchant for talentless Jews"? <p> You got called, and you fucking stalled. Man up and take your medicine, little bitch.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:14 a.m. CST

    pooethic, bwaahhahahahahaha....

    by poeticwarriorII

    oh man what a put down phew, man that was funny I think I feel another laugh coming on, wait.... wait.... ok no that was just gas. I didn't stall I just told you I wasn't going to get into it you stupid cunt. You wanted to know all the untalented Jewish actors he's worked with so google it motherfucker. I don't have to qualify a fucking thing to your cunty ass, nothing. I don't have to dignify one goddamn thing to you, nothing. Your just pissed off because you can't get me started on it cunt so get back to cleaning your vagina or whatever it is you do with your skanky minge when you're not looking like a dumbass on here.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:17 a.m. CST

    and take your medicine DocPazuzu...

    by poeticwarriorII

    or that terminator fuck you were pretending to be earlier. Tell me, why are you so worried about it, do you possess a jew fro as well dick wart?

  • May 12, 2008, 6:22 a.m. CST

    NICE TRY, EL BORAK!

    by BringingSexyBack

    * Boards plane marked "El Borak" *

  • May 12, 2008, 6:22 a.m. CST

    Stop the Fighting!

    by Da B-Meister

    Just remember the wise words of Confucius: "He who farts in church, sits in his own pew."

  • May 12, 2008, 6:24 a.m. CST

    I DON'T WANNA GET INTO YOUR FLAME WAR BUT GOT 2 WORDS:

    by BringingSexyBack

    Jeff Goldblum.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:24 a.m. CST

    DA B MEISTER

    by BringingSexyBack

    That Confucious sure was wise.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:25 a.m. CST

    I agree Da B-Meister but these cunts...

    by poeticwarriorII

    can't help themselves. It's like an impulse to open their mouths. It's really because they're my fan base and they just love to hate me. I'm basically the new J.R.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:30 a.m. CST

    More Poetry

    by Talcy

    PoeticWarrior. You wouldn't dare say that to me in the real world, child. Fucking behave yourself, you racist, immature, whiny little brat. I know the difference between politically correct and correct. You are neither. Now go have a wank and calm down.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Called and stalled, pooethic...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...called and stalled. <p> Suck it, suck it good.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:36 a.m. CST

    The fighting is pointless.....

    by Da B-Meister

    Since the fighting has a 7th-grade-ish feel to it, we'll have to resort to a 7th grade form of correction: The next person to post something harsh against PoeticWarrior (or anyone else for that matter) is openly admitting that they have regular sex with Bea Arthur and the like to lick the skidmarked boxers of Tom Arnold.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:48 a.m. CST

    BringingSexyBack...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I wasn't going to go there, but since you insist. Ben Kingsley is pretty god damn shitty most of the time, Christ his line-up of work reads like a what's what of schizophrenic decisions. Harrison Ford, while good as Han or Indy is pretty fucking terrible in everything else. Perhaps stevie brings out the best in him. And how about that Richard Dreyfuss? With the exception of Matt Hooper he's pretty much been a what exactly? Best actor for being a Jew in a shitty movie and a coke head? I'm pretty sure he's gotten batshit crazy in the last few years as well but that was probably from all the drugs. David Paymer, hey he's a real wiz bang right? I mean shit he's AWESOME!!! That dude is on everyone's A list. Jeff Goldblum as BSB stated, hasn't exactly been burning up any theater screens lately. Adam Goldberg, hey now, he's waiting to bust out right Pazuzu? Sacha Cohen, and yes I'm aware that you think this fucking guy is funny, but acting like a half-wit is not grounds for theatrical genius. But hey DocPazuzu you ignorant fuck just keep on dry humping t40's leg there buddy.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu, please see previous post...

    by poeticwarriorII

    fuck nut. TheQueefer is just the tip of the ice berg dumb ass. But thanks for playing anyway. Next time perhaps you'll stay in the corner sucking your thumb instead of wading in over your head pig vomit. You and Hollywood are just about on the same level.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:54 a.m. CST

    Da B-Meister, DocP will be trying to hump...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you next. you don't know what you've started. Can't you see how many times I tried to smoke that dumb bastard out? It was to no avail.

  • May 12, 2008, 6:56 a.m. CST

    Talcy, oh look here's another shit for brains...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you see one asshole starts and the cunts start falling out of the woodwork. MY FANS!!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 6:59 a.m. CST

    DocPazuzu say it with me...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I wish I knew how to quit you! Come on give it that whiny ass voice you reserve only for your sneaky Uncle over Xmas break!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Nothing

    by Talcy

    Oh! You cut me to the quick! Such a wordsmith. Actually, everything you type means nothing, PoeticWarrior. Nothing. Except that you show yourself out to be a Nazi troll. I've nothing more to say to your vapidity. Outta here.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:06 a.m. CST

    Merriman

    by just pillow talk

    Since we got a positive review, it's a FACT that this will be good, right genius?

  • May 12, 2008, 7:10 a.m. CST

    Well apparently it means something,...

    by poeticwarriorII

    especially to you you overreacting cunt. If it didn't you wouldn't be on here insisting I converse with you. You'd shut the fuck up and ignore me, but you can't. I'm in your blood Talcy. I'm there to stay fuck wit. You can say "Outta Here" all you want. But you'll be back. Just like Pazuzu, you'll be back. You two can't quit me and you know it.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:18 a.m. CST

    I can't read any more

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I didn't read the review, I can't bear with any more spoilers, not with less than 10 days to go...

  • May 12, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST

    Good morning pillow

    by Abominable Snowcone

    and fellow warciples. How was your baseball game on Friday? Rained out? Ours was good--the pitching matchup between Sabbathia and Halladay was a good one. Sadly, we left in the 7th because our kids were restless, and that's when the Indians bats decided to wake up. Yesterday's game was rained out. They could have gotten it in, and should have, because it's raining worse today

  • May 12, 2008, 7:25 a.m. CST

    morning Abom...

    by just pillow talk

    Nah, it was rained out, so they double dipped it on Saturday (didn't go). <p>I saw that you went to a hell of a pitching match-up before the tribe slugged them. <p>I'm very jazzed to see this...

  • May 12, 2008, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Yeah it was a fun time

    by Abominable Snowcone

    It was my daughter's birthday. She had a good time. Turns out Rick Manning (ex-Indians, and now broadcaster for Sportstime Ohio) sent out birthday wishes to her, so that was cool. But my son is only four, and he was more interested in Slider (the Indians mascot) and Cracker Jack. He caught on after a while and whenever a vendor would come into our section and yell, my kid's hand would shoot up. Beer, peanuts, hot dogs--didn't matter. His hand would go up and he'd be smiling. We had some Blue Jays fans in our section. A couple were drunk, but some were cool. One of them gave my kid a ball from batting practice, so that was nice of him. I'll probably check out another game this week, and again the 23rd

  • May 12, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST

    that's cool.....

    by just pillow talk

    I've found that the drunks generally aren't as bad at baseball games as at football games, so you can bring kids to the game. Except Saturday afternoon games.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:47 a.m. CST

    The spider lines are

    by My best friend

    the Nazca lines. Look them up on wikipedia or answers.com They are in Peru, and are real.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    As for Indy Jones

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I'll probably be at a midnight show on the 21st, then take my daughter sometime on the 22nd. I keep going back and forth about the midnight thing, but who am I kidding? I'll be there.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    Good morning Abom, JPT

    by toadkillerdog

    I see the Doc in embroiled in another war!

  • May 12, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    matinee for me on the 22nd

    by just pillow talk

    I can hardly wait.<p>Toad, how goes it? Yeah, poetic is starved for attention it seems.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:08 a.m. CST

    It goes well

    by toadkillerdog

    I saw Speed this weekend, I enjoyed it - for what it was.<p>

  • May 12, 2008, 8:08 a.m. CST

    This review gives me hope.

    by Luscious.868

    I'm a lot like the reviewer. I like the Indy films, but I'm not a die hard fan. It's probably been 7 - 10 years since I've watched any of them. I liked Raiders, didn't really care much for Doom, and really liked Crusade (probably because it was the first of the films that I saw in a theater).

  • May 12, 2008, 8:09 a.m. CST

    excellent Orcus....

    by just pillow talk

    Did you see what we had to deal with in the Harry Steele thread with Merriman? <p>Oh, and check out thread 36667...check out who posted near the end there. Jarv will be so disappointed. You've had some rather unpleasant run-ins with him as well...

  • May 12, 2008, 8:10 a.m. CST

    hmmm....racer doesn't interest me at all

    by just pillow talk

    Doubt I'll ever check it out, but good to hear you enjoyed it Toad.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    ah, see you saw IM Orcus...

    by just pillow talk

    Our summer is off to a good start...

  • May 12, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST

    It is definitely not for everyone

    by toadkillerdog

    But, I channeled my inner child, and said 'WTF?'<p> This really will be an extraordinary summer for movies - both on the radar and below it.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    The "for the kids" argument is bogus.

    by Luscious.868

    When it comes to the Star Wars prequels and Indy 4 the "it's for the kids" argument is complete and utter shit. The "kids" of today weren't even an itch in their daddies pants when the original movies were released. The "kids" who saw those movies then are adults today and their kids, if they have seen the originals, probably think their lame because of the crappy FX as compared to modern movies for "the kids" today.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:51 a.m. CST

    Mini Review

    by jones1899

    So a ...um....friend of a friend (sounds like BS already doesn't it?) saw Indy 4. I've kown this person for over 10 years. Older person. Loved Raiders and liked the other two somewhat as well. This person's review is basically that the movie is really good. The time flies by. Can't wait to see it again (hardly ever sees movies more than once). Would have changed a thing or two here and there. Blanchet is very good. Shia is very good. Its just really fun and "better than the last ones" not sure if that means TOD and LC or not. Other person who saw it also said the same thing, but this one know it all person said he didn't really like it, but LOVED Speed Racer.... SO there you go. Can't wait!

  • May 12, 2008, 8:54 a.m. CST

    Nah, not a war.

    by DocPazuzu

    pooethic is a troll who's been here forever. I normally don't engage him but got bored and decided to poke him with a spoon. The guy is really a non-entity. Google his username and in virtually every talkback he partakes in, he'll jump in and say something vaguely obnoxious and toothless and be met with a wall of silence. Considering that this is AICN, where even a mild provocation will mostly result in a torrent of verbal abuse and sometimes threats of sexual violence, that's really saying something about how much of a failure this guy is. <p> He's like a wannabe panterarocks, which is sad on so many levels.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    Whether it's good or not, Indy 4 has an uphill battle...

    by sapno_krei

    The audience for the movie doesn't exist anymore. The 7 - 13 year old kids who loved it in the 80s are a bunch of cynical adults now, and the kids of today are used to Michael Bay-action and CG animated cartoons. (Seriously, I sat and watched ROTLA with some 12 year olds recently and they were annoyed by the fact that Indy's punches don't seem to connect with the bad guys' faces.)

  • May 12, 2008, 9:04 a.m. CST

    JP

    by DocPazuzu

    What is this "Harry Steele thread with Merriman" you speak of?

  • May 12, 2008, 9:05 a.m. CST

    Hahahah

    by Series7

    I saw the whip it good link and thought that it would be really funny, if "Give me back my family" and the brothers Jew have Memorial sized weekend openeing. That in the following TV spots that play that song with clips of indy whipping shit, showing peoples reactions and showing the box office gross with Divo playing over it all. You know how they used to do for movies that do well, they don't do those types of tv-spots anymore. That would be great.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Doc

    by toadkillerdog

    Yes, I know what you mean. Most of the time i just 'walk away' but sometomes the level of stupidity is so great that one can not help but to respond. <p> I found myself doing so - half-heartedly, with Morbid and his justifying of the Iraq war.<p> He does not have the brain power to be really offensive, or back it up - and I say that without rancor, but still I was bored that day and so I took the bait. <p>It is pointless with people like him though, because they really do not have the capacity to see beyond a narrow minded point of view.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:07 a.m. CST

    Sapno

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I may be a cynical adult, but I'm still an Indy fan and I've already bought a couple tix for the show. And my kids are comin' with me to one of those showings. They love the Raiders' series. I think if kids today don't "get" Raiders, it says more about the kid than the movie, which EVERYONE knows is great. Even Nazis.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:08 a.m. CST

    DocP...thread 36678

    by just pillow talk

    He was basing the negative reviews as "fact" that Indy was going to suck.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    PoeticwarriorII should be banned.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Seriously. Has that guy ever done anything in Talkback besides call people cunts and threaten to shit down their throats? Talk about your waste of bandwidth.<P>He reminds of that once loser-troll, harrysuxafatone. That guy did the exact same thing until he walked straight into the Ban Hammer. And it was a glorious site to behold.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:11 a.m. CST

    Warciples! Harken to me!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    What does thy Book of Burt say about pathetic douchebags like, po?<P>I humbly await your wisdom, guidance, and action.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:11 a.m. CST

    sapno_krei

    by just pillow talk

    I can't speak to how the kids of today will react to a new Indy movie, but I'm with Abom & Orcus above, I'm gonna be seeing this one, without a doubt. And I'm really looking forward to this further adventure of Indy.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:14 a.m. CST

    easy MNG...

    by just pillow talk

    A thousand pencils will rain down upon thy cretin poeticwarriorII, and stab thee into thy mouth with glee, teaching thy shitheel the error of his trolling ways. A call will go to the heavens, and a FLAMING LEG KICK will knock the drippy whore asunder, awakening thy shitheel from his trollish ways and converting him to a loyal servant of the Church of Chang.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST

    re: uphill battle

    by sapno_krei

    Basically, Lucas and Spielberg are "damned if they do, damned if they don't." Personally, I'm glad they gave Indy one last hurrah. Heck, I would have been happy if his movie adventures had never stopped after 1989.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST

    2for2true is aware of all trolls...

    by just pillow talk

    and deals with them at a time He sees fit.<p>It's supposed to rain today...Burt's stache is angry with poeticwarriorII...

  • May 12, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    Oh, great JPT...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...I see the truth of it. And I believe po will as well once he receives his first FLAMING LEG KICK to the face.<P>I kneel before the Warciple's ancient and secret knowledge. Long may it spank po'warrior senseless, anon.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    I OWE YOU A GIN

    by crazy4dragons13

    I wonder if Dan Akroyd ever got that gin??

  • May 12, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Threats of sexual violence!

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I pop in here whenever I can, but I am always a little disappointed by the paltry number of threats of sexual violence I receive.<p>Clearly, I am not sufficiently attractive to the AICN crowd.<p>What, because I'm English I'm not good enough to be threatened with rape? For shame, Ain't It Cool friends. For shame!<p>P.S. This is a good summer so far. Hopefully, Indy will do his part and not suck.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Sapno

    by toadkillerdog

    I think kids of today will appreciate any well made, entertaining movie. <P> Just like we did when we were kids.<p> Yes, times change, tastes change, but the reason some movies made almost 80 years ago are still enjoyable today, is becuase they where well made. <p> I truly beleive that if Indy IV is well made and entertaining, it will have no problem conencting.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    kneel not before us MNG...

    by just pillow talk

    but before the greatness of the holy trinity and their message...<p>We are the keepers of the divine knowledge, so sayeth our lords..Burt, Ash, and Warwick...amen.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST

    that's because you're not making bold announcements

    by just pillow talk

    Frankie... <p>For instance, say something like "Indy will kick TDK's ass and eat out it's mom's pussy for dinner, eat shit haters!" <p>Or "The FF movies are very underrated, and if you can't see that you don't know fuck about what makes a good, fun movie. Fucking fanboys..."

  • May 12, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    Amen, indeed.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Now, gather thy Warciple brothers and give that idiot fucker what for.<P>RIDE AND FEAR NO DARKNESS!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    FUCK THE DAMN LOT OF YOU, THEN!

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    How's that? I was going for a Gabriel Grey-ish vibe. I miss that guy. He was so hilariously angry.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST

    JPT is correct Franklin

    by toadkillerdog

    That will ignite a holy war!

  • May 12, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    you also have to pick the right threads

    by just pillow talk

    to incite anger in. The Hulk is an easy one, just choose a side: pro-Lee or anti-Lee. It really takes care of itself once you have chosen a side...

  • May 12, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    all you have to know about Merriman is...

    by just pillow talk

    he finds poeticwarriorII funny.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    MNG

    by Abominable Snowcone

    The Church of Chang has faith that the gods of all that constitutes manliness (as embodied by the likes of such onscreen icons as Bruce Campbell, Tony Jai, Sean Connery, Charles Bronson, Fred Ward, Michael Gross, Fred Ward, Harrison Ford, and Tyrone Powell)will rain unholy vengeance upon all nonbelievers in as manifested in a maelstrom of sharpened No. 2 pencils and flaming leg kicks.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:42 a.m. CST

    BTW...Abom mentioned Fred Ward twice on purpose

    by just pillow talk

    He's THAT important to the good work of the Holy Trinity.....<p>Jack Burton is our porkchop archangel, and goes where no one else will: to the bowels of evil where only trolls reside and whispers of spamming ring throughout one's ears...

  • May 12, 2008, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Ha! I didn't even notice

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Count him once for his work in Tremors, and again for his work in Remo Williams + Timerider.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Kurt Russell has been canonized

    by Abominable Snowcone

    in the Church of Chang, for his contributions in Tango and Cash, Snake Plissken, Jack Burton, Executive Decision and yes, Captain Ron. And the dude he played in "Dreamer." If ever you're in doubt about what a man would do in a given situation, it's time for a Kurt Russell movie night.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    RAIDERS OF JURASSIC PARK

    by BringingSexyBack

    "Velociraptors! Why did it have to be velociraptors?!"

  • May 12, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    this guy clearly has no business reviewing this movie.

    by FleshMachine

    “We… are… going… to die!” THATS MY FAVORITE PART!..hilarious look on his face.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST

    Abom....

    by just pillow talk

    and especially for his work in Big Trouble in Little China, The Thing, Escape from New York.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    Church of Chang

    by DocPazuzu

    I cannot and WILL NOT convert until Ace Hunter is canonized. Anything less is heresy, heresy!

  • May 12, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST

    It's been years since I watched Big Trouble in Little China

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    The way you guys have been going on about it lately, I'm going to have to rent it this week. I don't remember a single scene so it will be like watching it again for the first time.<p>And Kurt Russell proved he's still relevant with Stuntman Mike.<p>And for the people who keep saying Lucas and Senior Spielbergo are damned if they do, damned if they don't, please stop, because a child and a box of kittens somewhere in the world dies every time such inane utterances are spoken.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    There's never been a superhero like

    by Abominable Snowcone

    ACE HUNTER!! Deeds not words! And a pastel purple headband!

  • May 12, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Orcus

    by sapno_krei

    My son is only 4, and he is totally digging on Indy right now, thanks to his geeky dad. He won't be seeing Indy 4 until it's on video (and with his parents fast-forwarding through the really violent parts), but we will be taking him to Disney World this winter. I can't wait for him to see Indy "live and in person" at the stunt show.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Orcus and sapno

    by Abominable Snowcone

    My 4-year old son calls my Cleveland Indians golf hat the "Indy hat." The other day he insisted a cut him a piece of kite string about four feet long. Not knowing why he wanted it, I did. Then he ran around the house swinging the string like a whip, saying he was Indiana Jones. Sigh...I'm so proud.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST

    What about the ol Buckeroo?

    by toadkillerdog

    Buckeroo banzai!

  • May 12, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST

    don't forget about K.R. in Soldier

    by g-ride9000

    that movie is pure action si-fi cheese glory

  • May 12, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    Ah, yes today is a great day

    by Abominable Snowcone

    for conversion. And we just may have to accept that Kurt Russell is, in fact, God.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    why isnt scotsman75 getting banned?

    by FleshMachine

    honestly.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST

    DocP...

    by just pillow talk

    I have no problem with accepting Ace Hunter with open arms into the Church of Chang.<p>While sadly I have never witnessed this remarkable champion of good, he certainly seems to stand up next to the Chang grading system. <p>I shall receive 30 FLAMING LEG KICKS for my lack of knowledge in this matter..

  • May 12, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    g-ride9000

    by just pillow talk

    Duly noted.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Buckaroo Banzai!

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I would second his (aka Peter Weller - Robocop) nomination. His inclusion could be the point of conversion for me. Because with the combined knowledge, wisdom, and power of the Church of Chang AND the Banzai Institute...peace, justice, and ass-kickery would truly reign!<P>Hail, my fellow Blue Blaze Irregulars!

  • May 12, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Across the 8th Dimension!

    by Rickey Henderson

    man what a fun movie that was...

  • May 12, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    MNG

    by toadkillerdog

    Peter Weller, has long been over-looked for his contributions to the canon.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    by Anakin_Piecocker

    fred ward was awesome in miami blues. kurt russel awesome in anything, i enjoyed breakdown.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    THis fucking poeticwarrior II guy

    by g-ride9000

    it looks like he finally passed out, what a joke. Wow dude you have the dirtiest fastest retorts, you must be so proud. I'm gonna do yoga right now so I can learn to felate myself, and practice over and over till I can suck your dick better than any man ever has!!<P> cause baby you are on fire and I want some of that fire juice. GIVE IT TO ME BITCH!!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 11:14 a.m. CST

    Ghost of Nixon

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Is that you, Braffed? EVERYONE knows Spidey 2 is better than 3. People may disagree on just how great (or not) 2 is, but EVERYONE knows it tops 3.<p> Pillow, yeah Barry Bostwick in a form-fitting gold lame jumpsuit with feathered hair, a purple headband, and Kenny Loggins beard. On a flying motorcycle with machine guns and missiles! Plus, whenever he makes a point to a chick, he KISSES HIS THUMB and holds it out to her. Megaforce may be so bad it's good, but there is no refuting the greatness that is ACE HUNTER, and no dispute that he knows how to keep his ladies in line.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:21 a.m. CST

    RAIDERS OF THE ALLSPARK

    by BringingSexyBack

    "Decepticons! Why did it have to be Decepticons?!"

  • May 12, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Ace Hunter wants YOU

    by Abominable Snowcone

    to join Megaforce!<p> http://tinyurl.com/5tjj3t

  • May 12, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST

    BringallSparkBack why is poetic warrior such a

    by g-ride9000

    huge bag of burning pit bull cum. What I mean to say is that he is the bag, and his rants and ideas are the fore spoken "burning pit bull cum".

  • May 12, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST

    The chuch of chang is not aloof

    by just pillow talk

    It always accepts valid entries into its halls. Peter Weller is most definitely a case where the Holy Trinity smiles upon him.<p>See, where like the Hall of Fames, except cooler and our members can wipe them out with a single thought.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST

    I just cannot look at Barry B and not throw toast at screen

    by toadkillerdog

    Or hot dogs either.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:26 a.m. CST

    RAIDERS OF LOC-ED AFTER DARK

    by Abominable Snowcone

    "A rap song. Why'd it have to be a rap song...with a drum sample from 'Jamie's Crying?'"

  • May 12, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    by Ethan Big Nuts McKinley

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eHJlTgp-do&feature=related

  • May 12, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    and yes, there is no comparison between

    by just pillow talk

    Spidey 2 and 3. Numero tres had way too many WTF moments in it. And one cannot say that it was more "fun" than two, cause it was most definitely not.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Peter Weller is in there...

    by Abominable Snowcone

    for Robocop if not Buckaroo. And his cool asshole villain in the movie "First Born."

  • May 12, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST

    hmmm....nathan hot dogs...

    by just pillow talk

    I'm hungry, time to eat!

  • May 12, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST

    JPT

    by toadkillerdog

    The enlightenment of the COC is truly a wonder to behold.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:36 a.m. CST

    "It's the pelvic thrust - that really drives em insaaaaane"

    by toadkillerdog

    Lets do the time warp - agaiiin!<p> Oh, no! Now I have that song rattling around me cranium!

  • May 12, 2008, 11:37 a.m. CST

    An AICN review that references

    by skimn

    Lee Marvin, Bill Holden, Steve McQueen...? I thought a while back that these "mens-men" icons (you can add Charles Bronson and Clint to the mix) of the '60s and '70s have no equivalent in todays films. Guys that look like they've been around the block and would beat the snot out of you if you tried to bullshit them.<p>Harrison Ford, as much as I've enjoyed his performances over the years, doesn't to me, seem to fit that description. Of course, Ford never really played the "tough guy" role, more of the everyman forced to action. Maybe someone like Tommy Lee Jones..

  • May 12, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST

    The Church of Change provides 3 things

    by just pillow talk

    to all members:<p>1) Ability to wage pencil jihad at a moment's notice on any infidels and shitheels. <p>2) Gives you x-ray vision. <p>3)You give off more of a manliness stench. (big hit with the ladies, which leads us too...)<p>4) Hear the lamentation of the women.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    Also, check out Peter Weller in

    by Abominable Snowcone

    "Of Unknown Origin." Watch a well to do yuppie banker go insane as a giant RAT makes a mess of his townhouse and his life.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:40 a.m. CST

    and not the ability to do math, however

    by just pillow talk

    4 things.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:41 a.m. CST

    Although I must say

    by Abominable Snowcone

    sometimes the lamenting "clucking of the tongues" gets old, and it's time for them to give us some sugar

  • May 12, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    Ethan Big Nuts

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I don't know how Harrison could describe being dragged behind a truck as "another useless experience." Frankly, that's a valuable life skill I've called upon on many a harrowing occasion

  • May 12, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    that's how I save on gas money in these trying

    by just pillow talk

    economic times. <p>Some may call that freeloading or crazy.<p>I call it looking out for the environment.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    JPT

    by toadkillerdog

    Adding the ability not to do math actually takes the count up to five things. Math Major Stan

  • May 12, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    LOL toad....

    by just pillow talk

    Maybe I should quantify that by saying that the CoC enriches everyone's lives (even non-members), and the number of things that the CoC provides to the world, nay, life itself, can never have a number associated with it.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    The CoC is good for the economy...

    by just pillow talk

    For example, single-handily I have declared pencil jihad on many of my fellow employees and our auditing firm. <p>To date, I have impaled 17 employees and 3 auditors with my #2 pencil. That's keeping the unemployment rate down, increasing pencil production, and keeping funeral homes busy. Good for the overall economy.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    Skimn

    by toadkillerdog

    You are correct about the lack of a 'Man's Man' in film today. <p> Nothing to really compare with the action starts of the early sixties through mid 70's.<p> Arnold, Willis, Stallone, Ford, never really took on that mantle -even when their respective movies kicked ass. <p> Some of that may be simply due to the previous generation having fought in and survived WWII -this added a hardened lustre to their performances.<p> But before we lament that no more such stars exist,look at McQueen. In his early work, he was not what you would call a Man's man, he was a teen rebel -of a sort. He grew into the role, and there very well may be actors now, who will fit that mold.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Indy with snake

    by Abominable Snowcone

    SPOILERs don't look if you don't want to see an image from the new movie. SPOILERs<p> http://tinyurl.com/6mwfr2

  • May 12, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST

    War stimulates growth

    by Abominable Snowcone

    You too can initiate pencil jihad in the confines of your own office!

  • May 12, 2008, 12:13 p.m. CST

    I'm not sure who would fit that mold toad..

    by just pillow talk

    out of today's actors. I mean, who qualifies as a young actor who fits the "action" star category? <p>Statham? I don't think of him as a bad ass though, and I really think it's because of the type of action movies that are typically made now. Don't get me wrong, I like him, but I just don't get that "bad-ass" feeling with him. <p>Damon? No way, and I love the Bourne movies.<p>Affleck? Um, next...<p>Daniel Craig? Nah, no proven track record, though I love his take on Bond.<p>Who could possibly take up the mantle?

  • May 12, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST

    Ryan Philippe will assume the mantle

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Shit, no--I'm just kidding.<p> Downey was good in Iron Man. I could see Matthew Fox doing some action shit. Heck, if they'd give me a call, I'm in as well. As a card-carrying member of the CoC, I am administering pencilpocalypse at any given moment anyways.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    greatest crap movie ever...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...with Peter Weller? <p> Shakedown, bitches! With Sam fucking Elliott! <p> I love that movie.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    oh no...

    by DocPazuzu

  • May 12, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    If I really had to guess who will assume the mantle

    by toadkillerdog

    The first thing I would do is look at the current crop of movie villains - always a source of bad assness. I need to rack the brainpan for some though. <p> As for the current crop of good guys who can 'make the leap', in no particular order:<p> Damon<p> Pitt (once his looks fade)<p> Gyllenhall<p> Craig

  • May 12, 2008, 12:33 p.m. CST

    Shakedown is indeed a fun movie

    by toadkillerdog

    Elliot and Weller rocked in that one!

  • May 12, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Mans man mantle...cont...

    by skimn

    with a few more years under his belt, and a few more lines to crease his face, I could see Christian Bale. Its a sense of gravitas that that earlier generation had, and I could see Bale inheriting that.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Its just that todays male stars are

    by skimn

    pretty-pretty, instead of ugly-pretty. No one could accuse Lee Marvin or Charles Bronson of being a male model type. Unless they wanted to gargle with their teeth.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    Indiana Jones drinks your milkshake!

    by warsinthesun

    pwned

  • May 12, 2008, 12:43 p.m. CST

    Jonah Hill is the new man of action

    by Abominable Snowcone

    and Jon Heder will be the new Harrison Ford.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Jonah Hill

    by skimn

    running full force toward camera in slow motion......ohh yeaaaaaaaa

  • May 12, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST

    Bale certainly could inherit

    by toadkillerdog

    The mantle - in a few years. Just like all of the ones I mentioned on my list.<p> As for Damon - I realize that will be a stretch - but consider -he totally kicked ass as Bourne, and no one saw that coming. The older he got, the more believable he seemed. <p> Give him a few more roles - and years, and he may very well assume the mantle. <p>But my real money is on a the dark horse Gyllenhal.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    Skimn

    by toadkillerdog

    I truly beleive you must look at the anti-hero's and or villains to find who may emerge as the next big 'mans man.'

  • May 12, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    retroactive hate for the temple of doom

    by Mr_X

    is bullshit. i loved this film as a kid, it still stands well today. no more parachute. monkeybrains. kali ma.. they took our siblings! c'mon so many great scene, such a great film. there is a snobish tendency to follow the crowd and say it was pants. bt having watched this the other day, i can still confirm its a fucking great film

  • May 12, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST

    The ultimate audition for manly men

    by Abominable Snowcone

    will feature all the pitfalls of the first Raiders movie, starting with the "give me the whip" jump over the chasm, and the boulder dash for life and limb.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    Action films just aren't like they used to be.

    by rbatty024

    Which is good and bad. For every enjoyably cheesy Arnold film of the eighties there were plenty of terrible knockoffs. These days most actors can't sustain a career on only action vehicles. I also don't think most want to. They want to do the big blockbuster in between their artistic projects. Stratham is the closest we've got to an action star and most of those films are pretty bad. I also agree with whoever mentioned that too many actors these days are pretty boys. If I'm not mistaken Clint Eastwood made Spaghetti Westerns because no one in Hollywood would hire because of his looks. It would have been a shame to lose Eastwood as an actor.

  • May 12, 2008, 12:59 p.m. CST

    I too just watched Temple of Doom a few days ago...

    by rbatty024

    and I was struck by how well they handled the relationship between Indy and Short Round. I loved the scene when they're talking to the village elder and Short Round is mimicking Indy's mannerisms. I also love how Indy doesn't leave the temple trap because he realizes he would have to leave Short Round in the trap alone. There are a bunch of little moments throughout the film that make the relationship between the two touching without being sappy. It's a wonderful example of show don't tell.

  • May 12, 2008, 1 p.m. CST

    Errol Flynn proved that you can be a pretty boy but still Manly

    by toadkillerdog

    That is why I think Pitt has a chance to wear the mantle - for a little while at least.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    You are a man among children Xi!

    by just pillow talk

    The Holy Trinity smiles upon thee with great satisfaction! <p>Damn, now I know what the X-files 2 title refers to: 2for2true!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Do YOU want to BELIEVE

    by Abominable Snowcone

    in 2true? YES. Yes you do.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST

    Shakedown...

    by just pillow talk

    I love Sammy getting on the plane's wheel...right? With Petey driving the car...

  • May 12, 2008, 1:10 p.m. CST

    Xiphos

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Thanks for the link. Don't know how I missed that 2true post. I see pillow witnessed the blessed event of the "Denouncement of the Gayheads." Glorious!

  • May 12, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    toad...Flynn is an interesting case

    by just pillow talk

    I'm not sure I would call him a man's man, but he did of course play the hero part well. I don't know if I could include him in the above group. <p>It's not like when I would see him I would think "he could kick someone's ass just by staring at them. The stare cannot be underestimated in its importance of kickassery.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:13 p.m. CST

    2for2true golden nugget for all warciples and such...

    by just pillow talk

    "Goddam Hollywood turd burglars... Would have loved to have been in the room when this douchefest was pitched... "See, it's all about a high school coach...WITH A MASSIVE, OH GOD, STOP ME FROM GOOIN'MYSELF, HUGE, FREAKIN' SCHLONG, AND, AND, AND well, thassit. Whaddya think?" Hey 'BO - We don't want any more shitty sex shows. Give us quality drama, like Carnivale, 6 feet Under, Deadwood, and Sopranos. Put down the blow, get your collective gayheads outta the closet and quit fuckin' off. That is all."

  • May 12, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST

    oh, and let's not make light of the fact

    by just pillow talk

    that memories-of-murder is back. That's who I saw post before Doc..<p>Jarv will be sooooooo happy.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    I saw the 2true post - Live

    by toadkillerdog

    I imagined what it would be like if he and Queefer where to share the same space at the same time. <p> I am thinking total annihilation.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:22 p.m. CST

    JPT

    by toadkillerdog

    Flynn was the very first 'bad boy' of cinema. <p> His real life adventures -before during and sadly after, his career, made him the kind of man that men of his generation wanted to be. <p>' In like Flynn' was coined because of his sexual prowess. <p> Wayne may have been the Manly man of the 40's, but Flynn carved out his own niche.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST

    Xiphos

    by toadkillerdog

    No problem man. And the very fact that you would remember to say thank you for a week old post, goes to show the type of person you are, and why I am proud to call you a 'brother-in-arms.'

  • May 12, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    toad...

    by just pillow talk

    We have hypothesized on the outcome of appearances by 2for2true and Queefer Bukkake, and, as you say, the impact is frightful to say the least. <p>One would think the universe would be sucked unto itself and existence, as we know it, would cease to be.<p>And I hear ya on the Flynn thing, but when I look at him, I just don't get than manly vibe, regardless of his real life escapades.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    oh, and count me in too Xi...

    by just pillow talk

    as wishing you well on your next deployment. As those sane talkbackers (I'm borderline) know, your presence is always welcomed in any thread.<p>Now since we've been gushing appreciation, etc in your direction....<p>Mets took two outta three baby! (hadn't seen you in a bit to mention that)

  • May 12, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    Orcus...

    by just pillow talk

    Which thread is that?

  • Its Indy, Its Nostalgia. It's something the whole family can watch. You know you're not going to get any gratuitous sex and violence. It's wholesome clean fun. and its fucking ford, Lucas and Spielberg. there's a long enough gap that people remember how good the old films are and will want to see this new adventure.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    PWanker

    by t40stunt

    damn man your to easy ..calm yourself down. you ask for an answer to who i am and how i know labeouf and i gave it to you . not asking your pathetic ass to believe me cause i really can give a shit . i just find it funny that between your shifts at mc'ds cleaning the shitters that you come on here trying to talk your big shit . your just another punk kid thats got no class or self respect . even if i was fucking a fatty it'd be a hell of a lot better than what you could get . i know your spending your evenings in random public mens restrooms tapping your foot to give the signal only to go home with a black eye and a gaped rectum . donkey punches daily gotta suck huh? thats alright keep taking it out on here . we all think your a joke anyway and i'm pretty sure thats how everyone else in your life views you too . oh yeah genius let me just go ahead and post my personal info up on here . why don't you go mix yourself up some koolaid and rat poison and do the world a huge favor . i'll be waiting for your oh so poetic response you fucking asshat .

  • May 12, 2008, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Oh look it's Mr. Nice Gaius, the shit eating...

    by poeticwarriorII

    testicle wart! How ya been cunt? I see you couldn't resist popping your head out of your ass long enough to make a stupid retort. Now open wide so I can shit down your neck.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Great !!

    by Candy ass monkey suit

    This is the fuckin review im gonna believe. Can't believe all the geeks ragging on this movie. From day 1 of this film being announced i knew there would be negative reviews from previews..sure as egss are eggs.. that was gonna happen. Im just pissed so many are jumping on the bandwagon..ok..so i havent seen it myself yet but ive seen enough from the trailers and tv spots and stuff ive read that this will be a fun adventure. People have missed the point with the trailers completely..think moriarty or someone else on here was dissing the trailers coz of the pace issues and so on..what people forget is that spielberg has treated this film differently from any other film put out there as he doesnt want to give anything away about the plot/story,so the trailers dont have a linear structure like most others do. Secondly..for all those Lucas haters out there..THIS IS A STEVEN SPIELBERG MOVIE ! ..lucas did not direct this or write the script and apart from the brief story outline originally conceived by said beard, had NO CREATIVE INPUT in this thing whatsoever!!!. If Lucas was directing this from his own script..then sure id be worried too but i have total faith that we are going to see one last fun adventure for indy. Im in my mid 30's,so i can remember when last crusade came out in 89 and was originally disappointed with it amongst other friends of mine who felt the same way too..of course over the yrs ive grown to love it more and more and i suspect it will be the same with this new one. Just give this movie a chance..Lucas got one thing spot on when he said peoples anticipations about KOTCS was way over the top..if you'd have waited say 20 yrs for LOTR "ROTK" to have come out after the first two,people would have knocked that as well. I JUST CANT BELIEVE SOME OF THE JERK OFF REVIEWS OF IT SO FAR ON HERE..AND FOR ONE PEOPLE TAKE FILMS SOMETIMES WAY WAY TOO SERIOUSLY..ROLL ON MAY 22ND

  • May 12, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    I like Harry's new Indy avator

    by Abominable Snowcone

    but it defies the laws of physics. The truck hood would be crushed, damaging the engine and bringing the vehicle to a stop.

  • May 12, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    If it isn't the real M-o-M, it is a good simulation

    by skimn

    with the assorted words misspelled, and the phrase "perceived similiaritudes ", but it does seems rather low key. And of course, the lack of Bay bashing...

  • May 12, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    g-ride9000, and here we have cunt no. 1354...

    by poeticwarriorII

    congratulations on earning yourself a ticket on the twat train asshole. And tell me something, couldn't you come up with something better than burning pitbull cum or was that a strain on the brown matter you've got stuffed between those ears? Really, burning pitbull cum?? That's it? I also like how you two douche bags wait until I leave for a while to start coming in here and yammering on about how you like people to shit down your neck and you're a big fan of sucking your own cock. My advice is don't waste money on the Yoga lessons becuase 1. You're already capable of sticking your head in your ass and 2 I know you're trying really hard to impress me but there's not a chance in hell you're getting within 10 miles of my cacker you cum catching queer bait. But thank you for being a loyal fan!!!! If you'd like to be a PWII fan drop an email to eatshit@yourealoser.com. Be patient though, there's quite a few in line.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Orcus

    by toadkillerdog

    Xiphos is going back to Iraq. I believe at the end of this month.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    Orcus - I'm not sure where

    by just pillow talk

    Xi, are you heading back to Afghanistan or somewhere else?<p>And I see that in the scriptgirl thread (yes, she does have a nice rack, particularly the 4/25/08 report..more of those shirts please), mirajeff lost his black box. Now THAT'S funny!<p>poeticwarriorII, stop trying to do the violent thing. You do not even approach the creativity of Queefer Bukkake or 2for2true. Bow now before your superiors.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    skimn

    by just pillow talk

    He may be easing back to his 'old' self, pacing himself before he becomes the annoying twat we know.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:05 p.m. CST

    Abominable Snowcone, Harry's new avatar...

    by poeticwarriorII

    is pretty funny. The cloud of blood that comes out upon impact is genius.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST

    ah, I see Toad's post...

    by just pillow talk

    Wow, that's a real funny website name you came up with poeticwarrior. It's a wonder you have time to post here since you must deal with so many responses on your website.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST

    just pillow talk, Anther satisfied cunt...

    by poeticwarriorII

    just hopped the twat train to fuck you town!! Who asked you shit bag? I don't recall directing one word to you cunty, yet you just can't help yourself can you? You're effeminate fingers just had to tap away your little bitchy shit filled response right??? You fucking jerk-off.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    poetic

    by Abominable Snowcone

    I didn't say it wasn't funny--it is, and I like it. I was just nitpicking, like a geek would. Take for instance those truck headlights. You wouldn't see those boxy lights on a 1950s truck. But I do dig the mist of blood.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST

    Hey, it's po' warriorII...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...and he's proving my point in its entirety. Way to go, po'. You are just as predictable as you are worthless and impotent.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:11 p.m. CST

    by the way when you get to yoga class....

    by poeticwarriorII

    with g-9000 tell him I said hello will you. I'm sure he'll be hurt if he thinks I don't care. That'll give you an opening so you can go over and practice the correct stroke speed with each other! I know... you can thank me later JTP.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    As for Memories-Of-Murder...

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    ...that's definitely him. The handle is the same. And yes, Lost Jarv is going to lose his muthafuckin' mind!

  • May 12, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Abominable Snowcone, oh I wasn't...

    by poeticwarriorII

    arguing with you at all. I knew you thought it was funny or you wouldn't have bothered posting about it.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius you dirty cunt...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I'm surprised you can breathe with all that shit in your mouth! Congratulations buddy, WAY. TO. GO! I know you've been working on your retorts lately, and I applaud you, really I do, but do try a little harder will you? You're getting boring.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST

    that's a little better powa..

    by just pillow talk

    Though you're really infringing on messi, since he throws around cunt more than anyone else. But you've really got to go with a little bit more of variety in your foaming-at-the-mouth bit. The "twat train" just isn't cutting it.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:21 p.m. CST

    and what's with your fascination with shit?

    by just pillow talk

    That is disturbing....

  • May 12, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Where the heck is Jarv?

    by toadkillerdog

    Lst I heard he was hitting the pub. <p> Must be on one helluva bender!

  • May 12, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST

    Leading Men

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    What about Hugh Jackman, Clive Owen, Colin Farrell, Viggo Mortensen, Josh Brolin, Javier Bardem, Karl Urban, Josh Lucas or Benicio Del Toro? I think any one of these guys is one role away from being the guy who steals your wife before breakfast, beats up a boxcar full of ninjas, jumps from the airlock of an exploding space shuttle and lands feet first on the White House lawn, karate chops his way through an army of Secret Service agents en route to bitch slapping the President and is on a beach in Southern France by dinnertime getting your wife to bark like a dog and other stuff she hasn't done to you since you put that two months salary rock on her finger.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Oh no? JPT, it seems to be "cutting it" with you...

    by poeticwarriorII

    cunt. You can't seem to ignore it so it obviously is making a dent in that bucket of pig vomit you try to call a skull. I understand though, you're like the proverbial bitch that can't leave her bf that beats her. No matter how hard you try you know way down deep inside you deserve it, you want it, you need it. You ask what my fascination is with shit? Well shit for brains, perhaps you could try reading a little more and sucking Mr.NG a little less you incredible cunty. Or are you just an illiterate fuck stain? Next time you think about picking up the keyboard at least try typing something with a little more than I know you are what am i will you fuck wad? Either that or forget it and continue smearing your face with shit and flinging poo at the neighborhood kids who aren't retarded.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    Ah yes, the fecal fixation

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey knew a guy like that back in college. The guy liked to poop on the bathroom floor and refused to own up to it. Weird dude. Maybe it's poeticwarriorII.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Ah yes, the fecal fixation

    by Rickey Henderson

    Rickey knew a guy like that back in college. The guy liked to poop on the bathroom floor and refused to own up to it. Weird dude. Maybe it's poeticwarriorII.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Hawaiian Organ Donor...

    by poeticwarriorII

    Josh Brolin is the only one out of that entire list who has the possibility of being anything more than a faded star. The rest of those guys have had their chance and they never gained traction.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    po'warriorII

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Speaking of boring...ZZZzzzZZZ<P>FYI - you need to look up the meaning of the word "retort" and how it doesn't apply to my post @ 09:09:15 AM.<P>Thanks for your worthless rejoinder all the same. Keep dancing, fucktart.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Hawaiian Organ Donor

    by toadkillerdog

    Funny post, dude. Now about your picks:<p> Jackman - I like him, and he is great as Wolverine. Compares to Eastwood - at least faciallly. But he seems more intent on expanding his acting chops, and not doing straight up actioners.<p> Owen - Great tough guy actor, he could make the leap but will he get the opportunity? Maybe.<p> Farrell? - Nope. <p> Viggo - Yes. He could do it, but he is getting old. It will have to be very soon, or it will be too late.<p> Brolin - late bloomer. But I have not seen enough if him to have a true opinion. Intrigung though.<p> Bardem - I think he is more interested in character than action.<p> Urban - No clue.<p> Lucas - I do not see it.<p> Del Toro -As an Aging badass - yes.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Rickey Henderson, bwaahahahahahahaha...

    by poeticwarriorII

    bwahahahahahahahahahaah... oh man wait you're killing me.... no wait.... oh man a guy that shit on the floor of the bathroom... bwahahhahaahaha..... ok I'm getting control now.....bwahahahahahaah.... maybe that's me... bwaaahaaahahah...... comedic genius folks!!!!!!! What a cunt.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    yeah...I think Viggo and Del Toro can be the

    by just pillow talk

    aging bad asses, but I'm not a fan of Owen being a bad ass, nor Jackman. I think they're pretty damn good, but like Toad said with Jackman, more with expanding their acting chops.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius HOOOORRAAAYYYYY...

    by poeticwarriorII

    way to go little buddy, worthless and devoid of meaning but you're chugging away at both JPT's cock and typing worthless shit heel talkback posts. Way to multi-task cunt!!! Are you enjoying the gentle swaying of the twat train?

  • May 12, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    powa, do you ever look anyone in the eye

    by just pillow talk

    when you are walking down the street, or are you a scared little bastard who has to type random violent threats to people you don't even know? Did you get beaten a lot at school when you were growing up? <p>And the nonsense you type doesn't qualify as "picking up the keyboard".

  • May 12, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    "worthless and devoid of meaning"

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Yes, you are po'warriorII. And you continue to berate yourself in favor of proving my earier point. Thank you!!!<P>Now, dance some more, fucktart.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    yes, poeticwarrior...

    by Rickey Henderson

    ...because as you so subtlely point out, only the most vulgar & mean spirited messages qualify as funny. How's that working out for you so far?

  • May 12, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    No B.S.Review (Some Spoilers!!!!!!!)

    by jones1899

    Here's my Indy review. I'll make this quick maybe. First of all, after reading some of the other reviews, I found myself wondering if they were legit or not. I am a huge fan of Raiders, really enjoyed Last Crusade, but don't enjoy TOD like I did when I was younger (though the scene where Indy knocks the baddie out and sends him sliding in the gravel get me everytime) Anyway, I was pretty good about avoiding spoilers, figuring I'd have a chance to see the film early anyway. So, as far as verifying the other reviews, well I just couldn't be sure. Come to think of it, even after seeing it, I still can't be sure, but all I can say I have strong doubts as I'm sure some will have about my own review. What I won't do I post spoilers here to convince you. I went in spoiler free and I think they may have a lot to do with my opinion of the film: What is that opinion? Well, I left the theater excited at the thought that I just watched the best Indy movie since Raiders. Yes, it is that good. In fact it is very good. Is it perfect? No, but then I don't think Raiders is a perfect film either (though its flaws are quite minor). TOD and LC have bigger problems here and there, but remain great regardless and more than worthy follow ups to Raiders. So, yes, considering all of this KOTCS fits nice and snug after Raiders. Let's start with the bad news. There are some one liners that don't quite work like they should. Second, the links to the other movies (besides Marion) could have been handled better. I'm glad that they're there, but I didn't get the same smile on my face as I did with the Ark in LC. Suffice to say there are similar thinks at work here (very similar in fact). Also, the climax of the film will split fans and viewers right down the middle. It happened to work for me, but may piss off others. Those afraid that the alien angle would diminish the magic of the other films - don't worry. It's actually referenced somewhat and handled quite well. Okay, now the good stuff. Ford has en energy on screen that I haven't seen in a decade or more. The trailers are edited quite poorly especially with the dialog, but in the film it works for the most part (minus the few one-liners mentioned above). Also, I read one review saying there was a major death and that is not true. It's not a minor death either, but it does have a nice impact considering how well the character worked in this universe. Shia is not the character you think he is in the trailers. He does a great job in this and those who disagree even after seeing the film will at least love the trick in the end. I won't spoil it, but suffice to say there will be sighs of relief and big smiles in the audience. Let's just say it invlves "torches". Spalko is really odd here and though it took a few minutes to get used her, I ended up enjoying this villain more than any other (minus Belloq of course). What else. The action has a nice weight to it. The stunts are amazing. The set pieces (there are many) are clever and well thought out. The critter scene (big ants and another surprise!) is creepy and, yet again, second only to Raiders. Blows the socks of the rats in LC. The campus chase was very fun and even gives a nod to Marcus along the way. Most of all, the reunion of Indy and Marion was perfect. This is the scene I had been waiting for and it just hits the damn mark dead on. As does the relationship between Indy and Mutt. It reminded of LC for obvious reasons, but takes a different angle that adds to the whole package - even the action. The last review I read said it better than I could and was spot on. Also, let me say that Hurt and Broadbent get the job done well also. I was worried Hurt's character would try to be to eccentric and goofy, but I was pleasently surprised. Broadbent does pretty much play Marcus, but fits in as well as he could. Wow I am really rambling here. In the end I expect this will make a decent dollar (to say the least) and the reviews will be around 85% positive, which is better than the other two sequels. Again, I can't say that the other reviews weren't legit. Hell, maybe the positive ones are fake and the bad ones are real. What I can say is do yourselves a favor and don't read too many spoilers before hand. You have less than 12 days left to wait and I know first hand that going in with barely a clue as to what I would see paid off big. Oh and I forgot about the score - great as well, but you can go to amazon and see that for yourselves. So Raiders remains the king (a 10). Skull is second (a solid 9). Then LC (8.5) and TOD (8) pulling up the rear. Tonally I'd say a mix of them all. Ok here's one spoiler to get you excited: There is a wedding, but there are no dumb cameos. Whew.

  • May 12, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    hahaha ...

    by t40stunt

    wow pwank these older guys are really making you look like the cumstain you are . you do remind me of those little organ grinder monkeys ...dancing and posturing tough ...i always wanted to kick one of those fuckers . anyways man wheres the love ? you got me on here hooked like the coke i snorted off your mom and sister back before i made them go down on each other .

  • May 12, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    jones1899

    by t40stunt

    thanks for the good review man . stoked to finally see it play out and yeah the stunts are amazing .

  • May 12, 2008, 3:03 p.m. CST

    No soundtrack leak yet?

    by Bono Luthor

    ROTS was out way before the CD I seem to remember. Oh and there is no way that I wouldn't pay for this. I have my CD pre-ordered but I don't like WAITING!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 3:12 p.m. CST

    just pillow talk, tell me, who exactly...

    by poeticwarriorII

    have I threatened cunt?... right nobody, illiteracy is a bad thing dumb ass. Oh, and eat shit shit nugget.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    I have to agree with DGDB that line...

    by poeticwarriorII

    is a classic. Perhaps this guy doesn't know what in the hell he's talking about?

  • May 12, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Mr. Nice Gaius HOOOORRAAAYYYYY...

    by poeticwarriorII

    God your dumb.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Rickey Henderson, apprently pretty good...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you cunts can't seem to get enough of it, so yeah, I'd say it's doing exactly what it's meant to do. If it wasn't you'd go back to jacking off and throwing your body fluids at innocent onlookers. MY FANS!!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Yeah. You lose credibility when you knock

    by kolchak

    "We are going to die". There's no need for that. I'm not even sure what the fuck he's trying to say? How did he want Ford to say it?

  • May 12, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Yeah. You lose credibility when you knock

    by kolchak

    "We are going to die". There's no need for that. I'm not even sure what the fuck he's trying to say? How did he want Ford to say it?

  • May 12, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    Raiders Adaptation screening in LA

    by Ditch Brodie

    Not sure if anyone has posted it, but it's screening at Mann's Chinese Theater on Wednesday, May 14. The link: http://www.theraider.net/news/fullstory_miscellaneous.php?id=763

  • May 12, 2008, 3:23 p.m. CST

    t40stunt, yes I know your hooked cunt...

    by poeticwarriorII

    so are your ass eating train partners here. You can't get enough and you also make shit up that makes no sense and then you sit around patting yourselves on the back like the useless cunts you are when you've done absolutely nothing. You twats are like a microcosm of Congress. A collection of old worn out, easily manipulated diseased old assholes who stand around and clap at the slightest accomplishment. But I digress, you've gone and worn yourself out earlier trying to think of something to type. Way to go Hollywood, way to go! MY FANS!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    a few words...

    by STLost

    I don't post much. I've lurked on here for years. Trying to read the posts for this particular talk back, I'm amazed at some of the writings of a few posters, most noteably, PoeticWarriorII. It just makes me wonder if we met him in RL, on the street, and started a conversation with him, would be be littering the discussion with cuss words and digusting references to body parts. Or would he be the shy type that barely speaks, and only gets to come out of his shell through the anonymity of Talkback. Makes you wonder. I digress. <p> On topic. I'm looking forward to the new Indy movie. The trailers have gotten me excited. I rank the originals like this: 1)Raiders 2)Temple of Doom 3) Last Crusade

  • May 12, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST

    kolchak, I'm not quite sure what this guy was...

    by poeticwarriorII

    looking for. Nor do I understand his apparent lack of humor. Most people think it's pretty damn classic IJ. I don't think I've EVER heard anyone complain about that before. Very Strange.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST

    STLost, ALL ABOARD...

    by poeticwarriorII

    don't let the twat train leave you behind you shit eating testicle wart. You're so fucking dumb I'm surprised your mother didn't smother you as a child with one of her fat droopy tits. It's called literacy asshole, try reading a few posts before you open your shit hole next time fucktard. I'm glad I've got a new fan though. They just keep piling up. MY FANS!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    STLost, come on buddy, don't crawl back into...

    by poeticwarriorII

    your shell, it's ok. We'll get t40 to rub out your sore hurting twat! Everything was going so well to. :(

  • May 12, 2008, 3:43 p.m. CST

    fuck yeah i clap myself on the back

    by t40stunt

    cause your shit is weak pwank . really it is, no imagination other than some of the bad words you find on the cover of daddy's porn tapes . let me know where i can send my fan mail money so i can show up and plant my size 10 boot in your ass . i'm sure you won't feel much as your used to inserting random objects up there .ain't you late for that 10 man cum slam you were talking about earlier ...powarrior gotta eat . enjoy making your cash the hard way ho .

  • May 12, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST

    sigh.

    by STLost

    You're making my case for me. I don't even have to respond. I bet if we met you in RL, you'd be at a loss of words and could only mumble "yes" or "no". I'm sure dating for you is a lot of fun. You sound good to the ladies online, but when they meet you, all you do is nod and say "do you like star trek or star wars better?"

  • May 12, 2008, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Apparently it's not too weak Hollywood...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you keep feeling your pride and self-esteem fall every time you read something hence your impulse to type a reply. You can sit and say it's weak or whatever. I really don't care because in the end, your actions speak louder than your words ever could. I'm still waiting on you to post your shit Hollywood. You're the one that's so big and bad, so post it up cunt. You're old lady was telling me how she wanted the corn on the cob through a tennis racket treatment the next time I was out tere anyway. Poor Holllywood, his dreams were always bigger than his reality.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Only 50 more obscenity-laced posts...

    by Hawaiian Organ Donor

    Until we hit 1,000 total so don't stop now, fellas. Pull every insult out of your bag and let's derail this TB to the point we'll need hip waders to walk through this sewage.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    sigh.

    by poeticwarriorII

    Cunts who can't think of anything but yet believe reposting the same tepid shit they've posted before somehow makes it more relevant really piss me off. Fuck you ST you useless shit eating cunt. Come back when you've got something more creative shit for brains. Either that or get back to your guidance counselor job and molest some more children.

  • May 12, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    The comment about "We are going to die"...

    by Bono Luthor

    We all have a different experience watching the films, which is why I don't care if every single word written about KOTCS is shit, I will still go, have my own experience and form my own opinion. Some of you have read 'Death Of The Author' right?

  • May 12, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Well with the cunts that have migrated to this...

    by poeticwarriorII

    talkback that should be very easy to do. MY ADORING FANS!!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    Come on you crazy bastards, don't stop now...

    by poeticwarriorII

    this is a job for the Cunt Brigade!!! You know you can't quit me yet!!! I've got better fans than this!!!

  • May 12, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    what...?

    by t40stunt

    oh shit , your hurting my self esteem pwank ...please stop ...no ! all i want to know is if you like Indy or not. if so can i count you in on buying it on dvd to help with that nice residual check i'll be getting next year . then i can laugh all the way to the bank and worry about my big dreams and how you crushed them cause you think i'm lying . you in ..good . by the way my old lady could kick your scrawny little ass so i'd get to save myself from getting your teeth embeded in my knuckles . your right though i am bad .

  • May 12, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    Temple of Doom line...

    by STLost

    "We are going to die" - great line from Temple of Doom. Poetic: I'm spouting the same stuff over and over? Have you looked back at any of your posts? All you do is pull out your MadLibs and create new comebacks that say the same thing. We have to wade through your crap to actually read any of the on-topic discussions. Trying to impress the board by cussing and acting ignorant isn't cool. That type of stuff got old in 1995. Were you even born then?

  • May 12, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    to everyone else

    by t40stunt

    on here i am sorry if i keep entertaining our buddy pwank . not one for tb's but when i saw this guy talking smack i had to join in the fun . so please enjoy all the goodness that indy fans deserve sans this little turd .

  • May 12, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Typical Hollywood...

    by poeticwarriorII

    it's called pride, and it's fucking with you. Pride never helps, it only hurts!! BWahahaahhaahahah, poor Hollywood, he thinks he was in IJ. Unless... TheQueef, is that you? Or have your meds worn off and you just think you're TheQueefer? By the way, point proved. I knew you wouldn't let me down Hollywood. I knew it!

  • May 12, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    STLost you and the rest of these cunts...

    by poeticwarriorII

    are the last people on the face of the earth I would ever worry about impressing you old worn out douche bag.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Oh yes Hollywood...

    by poeticwarriorII

    play the poor tortured soul now. Oh you're so sorry for not being able to control yourself to the point you impulsively continue to look like a fool. Poor you, you're such an abused little cunt. Is you're fat ass old lady repulsed by how much of a pussy you are or do you keep her coked up so she doesn't notice how much of a loser you are?

  • May 12, 2008, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Poetic...

    by STLost

    Since you are on here morning, noon, and night, you must feel some affection towards the people of Talkback? You must want to feel loved in some capacity.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:17 p.m. CST

    pwank

    by t40stunt

    what point did you prove boss ? and its not a matter of thinking ,its about knowing ...you just can't except that . i know its tough to think that only dorks like you come on here but its just not true . most of the folks come here to see how some people feel about a project . so keep living in that little box and denying what you really know is true . but i do like the name hollywood so thanks for that . you are a funny little shit if it makes you feel better though .

  • May 12, 2008, 4:21 p.m. CST

    STLost, while I know your job as a guidance counselor...

    by poeticwarriorII

    is boring and leaves you with little inner satisfaction, save for all the children you molest, but coming on here trying to "analyze" me is probably not the way you wanna go champ. Nice try though cunt. However, since you can't help but continue typing responses I can safely say you certainly are enjoying the attention Ace. This is real easy for you dumb asses, ignore me and I'll go away. But you can't, your simple minds won't allow it. You just can't quit me. This has turned into an interesting experiment. Next...

  • May 12, 2008, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Hollywood if your IQ could break 80...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you would know exactly what you just stepped into. But since you're the Forrest Gump type I didn't expect you to "get it". You are threatening physical violence over the internet, you're a fucking fool. A cunt and a fool. That's a great combo to be dumb ass. You just can't stop can you? You have absolutely no control over what you do, do you?

  • May 12, 2008, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Poetic:

    by STLost

    Since I've been lurking at AICN since it's inception, and have now only recently registered to join in on discussions, I certainly do not need any attention. I'm afraid that honor is all yours. Who will get more attention, a post talking about the actual topic on hand, or someone like you, posting insults, off-topic digressions and just general immaturity. <p> Anyway, if you are getting joy out of us flocking to respond to you, then I hope we are making your life worthwhile.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    pwank, bwahahahahahahahaha....

    by poeticwarriorII

    bwahahahahahahahhah... oh man pwank..... bwahahahahaha.... that is just too funny Hollywood. Too funny, shit you oughta be in movies Hollywood.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:33 p.m. CST

    STLost, how's that pride feel?

    by poeticwarriorII

    Is it starting to throb like your balls do when the children run out to play at lunch time? You'll be back, even when you know what to do, you just can't stop. You love the attention, no matter what kind it is don't you you old fuck?

  • May 12, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Did ST finally quit flirting with me?

    by poeticwarriorII

    Hallelujah, that guy was creeping me out.

  • May 12, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    pwank

    by t40stunt

    thanks man glad you found that funny . your right man i oughta be in movies ...oh wait i already am . thats just gotta be fucking with you to . its alright just keep dishing out the hate my little man . my threats to you are done , you've wore me out kinda like when me and your girl get toghether . i know your a chicken shit little bitch and that is satisfaction enough .

  • May 12, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST

    Creeping Death

    by Talcy

    This TB is now offically dead.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:04 p.m. CST

    Hollywood, you ignorant wretch...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you're just like a less creepy STLost. I would like to think you're done, and thank GOD ST is, but I'll believe it when I see it.

  • May 12, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Thankfully so.

    by poeticwarriorII

  • May 12, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    hey jones 1899

    by El Borak

    is ian mcdiarmand in it?

  • May 12, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    INDIANA JONES AND THE TEMPLE OF MUSHROOM

    by BringingSexyBack

    You betrayed Shiitake! Hold onto your portobellos!!

  • May 12, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST

    "then the bsb will fall!"

    by El Borak

    "an the thuggees will be all powerful!!!"

  • May 12, 2008, 5:35 p.m. CST

    HA!

    by Yelnick McWaWa

    Hated movies DO NOT continue to make money. And if you are one of those who hated TPM and AOTC and then crossed your fingers in hopes of the third being "good" then fuck off and die. Seriously, only an abusive girlfriend/wife is dumber than you. That logic makes about as much sense as going to "Speed Racer" by choice or watching that Moriarty episode of "Masters of Horror."

  • May 12, 2008, 6:35 p.m. CST

    You know what the criticism is like?

    by kolchak

    It's like me saying "Remember TOD? That was awesome except for when Short Round said 'Holy Smoke! Crash landing!'. He CLEARLY didn't understand his character"

  • May 12, 2008, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Talcy

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Cause of death? po'warriorII.<br>ZZZZZzzzzzZZZZZ...

  • May 12, 2008, 7:42 p.m. CST

    El Borak

    by jones1899

    That's a negative. Unless I just didn't notice him... Sent my review to Harry, but I guess he didn't run it because it was TOO positive??? Who knows.

  • May 12, 2008, 7:55 p.m. CST

    HERE IS THE 9TH TV SPOT

    by Anakin_Piecocker

    Holy shit this is the best one so far! http://tinyurl.com/62zj6l i wanna say thats a ufo after she says destroyer of worlds but i'm sure its the rocket sled or whatever i gotta chck the official site i guess for a quicktime version. oh and more shia.

  • May 12, 2008, 8 p.m. CST

    Iron Man avatar...Speed Racer avatar...Indy Avatar...

    by warsinthesun

    No Narnia avatar or did I miss that one? If I didn't, thanks for not doing one. Seriously. I don't like it when my movies feel and act like clips from Final Fantasy games.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:11 p.m. CST

    TOD vs TLC: The opening

    by Prossor

    TLC starts off with some guy whose not Ford gaining all the indy attributes in an evening's worth (scar, whip, fear of snakes) in an evening's worth. Meanwhile TOD begins as a musical, Bogart meets James Bond looking Indy in white tux with red flower like Bond in Goldfinger's opening, a fight in th club, chase through Shanghai, into an airplane with a feathery breather and sledding down to India.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:14 p.m. CST

    TOD vs TLC: Harrison Ford's portrayal

    by Prossor

    In TLC he looks pissy-faced and is awfully angry and annoyed at everything around him. And his "DAAD DAAAAAAAD" is another one Spielberg's "why did daddy leave me" pictures.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:18 p.m. CST

    TOD vs. TLC: Sidekicks

    by Prossor

    They decide to have Connery, because he's James Bond, the father of Indiana Jones right?!! Except they go 180 on James Bond, confident, suave, badass, NOPE, hey let's make him a whiny doofus annoying old man. GREAT IDEA! NOW LETS NURTURE OUR BEARDS SOMEMORE. Short Round on the other hand, is probably the most lovable child sidekick in movie history. So a true rarity how an asian kid sidekick can be more likable than Sean Connery? TOD mananged to pull it off.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:21 p.m. CST

    TOD vs. TLC: Locations

    by Prossor

    Indiana Jones goes to the Utah desert! A middle eastern desert that suspiciously looks like a US desert again! Nazi Germany! Lets setit at new york while were at it. oh right. Meanwhile TOD is in exotic rough country like Raiders before it, Shangai and India.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Ford's potrayal

    by Prossor

    forgot to add that to teh argument, Ford at his most primal, cynical badassness, starts out as a greedy asshole and ends as savior of children and lowly plebes. Good character growht.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:23 p.m. CST

    TOD vs. TLC: the girls

    by Prossor

    anyone remember who was in TLC? i dont either. some nazi bitch. real bland and forgettable. Meanwhile the whiny Cate Capshaw, well at least she had a personality and was something new instead of another Marion.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:27 p.m. CST

    TOD vs. TLC: villains

    by Prossor

    TOD had indy enter a subterranean hell fighting the henchmen of kali mola ram is the scariest badguy of the trilogy. mule mean. meanwhile TLC had guys in fezes, a stupid greedy guy who makes Belloq look like Indy, better left to command AT-ATs then seek relics. And a nazi commander out of a mel brooks film.

  • May 12, 2008, 8:38 p.m. CST

    that is the rocket sled

    by El Borak

    not a ufo.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:01 p.m. CST

    My review -

    by jones1899

    Kinda surprised I didn't get more feedback on my review posted above. Or at least the fact that I rated LC higher than TOD

  • May 12, 2008, 9:03 p.m. CST

    people don't seem

    by El Borak

    to be posting here lately.

  • May 12, 2008, 9:07 p.m. CST

    Pathetic warrior

    by g-ride9000

    That's hilarious, you had a witty retort for each colorful layer of hurtful words I jammed up your culo. But seriously can I blow you? now cause your words are hotter than a front row ticket to Celine Dion. YEAH!

  • May 12, 2008, 9:12 p.m. CST

    Jones1899

    by Potsy

    Thanks for the review. I'm starting to let myself get excited about this one again. Can you tell me what the Paramount Logo dissolves into? Thanks, P. Weber

  • May 12, 2008, 9:46 p.m. CST

    Jones1899 Thank you so much. Nothing CAN STOP REAL REVIEWS

    by Proman1984

    Nothing CAN STOP REAL REVIEWS. This movie will clean up.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Also Ran...

    by DangerMan

    Flint's review already nailed it and was the best written in ages.

  • May 12, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Wait a minute...

    by warsinthesun

    Speed Racer was badass. Sorry, it was. Some reviews(just picking titles out of my head): Raiders was a masterpiece. Iron Man was near great. Spider-Man 2 was near great. The Indy sequels were badass. I, Robot was shit. Batman Begins was near great. Any other movies you'd like a review for? Heh.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:22 p.m. CST

    Cate Blanchette's Spalko must survive...

    by BurnHollywood

    It's 1957, Sputnik's about to be launched, and somebody has to rub magic alien juice retrieved from South America all over it so it flies right.

  • May 12, 2008, 11:58 p.m. CST

    YackBacker, oh ok...

    by poeticwarriorII

    sometimes my PMS acts up and I get sensitive as well. No hard feelings, I rub people the wrong way sometimes. I'm an abrasive fucker, I can't help it.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:03 a.m. CST

    g-ride9000, lol...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I aprreciate your felatious advances, really I do and I'm sure you're a handsome bastard. But really, I don't swing that way. t40 left his location on the 23rd for you though. If you live in Cali you're set big guy! You two love birds knock yourselves out!

  • May 13, 2008, 1:48 a.m. CST

    Jones1899

    by Massive_Bereavement

    So let me get one thing clear, a friend of a friend saw it? Then you decide to some time later casually inform us you've seen it yourself? You advise us to avoid spoilers, yet load your review to the rafters with spoilers? Finally there's a duplicate posting on Indy fansite forum The Raven of exactly the same initial review you posted here. I'm sorry Jones1899, but I really have a very hard time believing any of this.

  • May 13, 2008, 5:17 a.m. CST

    Oh fuck

    by Lost Jarv

    I'm ill for a few days and that obnoxious little hypocrite returns. <P>Fucking hell, it took ages of TB kicking to get rid off the pustule in the first place.

  • May 13, 2008, 5:20 a.m. CST

    I am the Terminator= GLovedone/braffed

    by Lost Jarv

    I thought he'd relaxed as well

  • May 13, 2008, 5:38 a.m. CST

    Doc- Ace has been canonised-

    by Lost Jarv

    and I was thinking about peter weller for ages, just for getting high on insecticide. Such disregard for your own wellbeing is a good sign.

  • May 13, 2008, 8:52 a.m. CST

    Prossor

    by STLost

    Prossor: Great comparisons between TOD and TLC. Really shows why TOD is a lot better than TLC. Also, TOD is a not the average "search for the relic" film. While TLC retreads RAIDERS, TOD fleshes out a competely different adventure. And Indy going from "fortune and glory" to helping the village is awesome.

  • May 13, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST

    This film will be awesome

    by SKULL1138

    Just because it is Harrison Ford playing Indy, with the Indy soundtrack and a whip and shit, thats it. The concept of an adventuring archeologist is genius, and thats what makes these films so good. <P> My fvaourites change order all the time, except Raider, it's alwasy no 1, I go on or off Temple and Crusade. <P> I loved the humour between Connery and Ford in Crusade, but the action was a little more boring I thought. Temple had best action scenes and best bugs, but the humour was not all that funny (at points) and the overall story arc was a little weaker. <P> Even this being the worst of them all would still be shit hot IMO. <P> It will still be bettre than any action film except Batman Begins in last few years, or even longer in some cases. <P> I am a huge Indy fan, and I wnat to love this, I dont care about neg reviews, I am still going to see it, if I dotn like it I will be surprised and dissapointed, but I wont cry about it. <P> Lucas has the right as does Spielberg to fuck this up, its their thing they invented from scratch, all they can do is make what they feel works best, as they did with all other ones, and hope the audience agrees. <P> Why even read a review for soemthing as big as a new Indy film, you are all going to see it anyway, so review it for yourself, if its soemthing new or obscure, then read reviews and decide to spend money on it or not, you dont do that for Indy, SW, Batman, Superman or LOTR, you just go and see it anyway, then judge from there

  • May 13, 2008, 8:57 a.m. CST

    the pathetic warrior isn't racist

    by g-ride9000

    he's hates everybody(especialy his abusive dad/mom person). Hey dude I decided that helping you cum wouldn't turn u into lees of a internet prick. My bad, sorry to get you all worked up like that big boy.<P><P> I've got something that might work though...You need to get down to hollywood....right now pathetic warrior! Scotsman 75 is waiting and you two get a meeting will Speilburg and Lucas(via webcast). They want to know all you shit opinions right away! This could be the moment that turns your life out of the gutter! <P><P><P><P>Oh yea! I forgot there's a passphase, It's <P><P>"pathetic warrior's ducky cunt"just keep saying that. Something craptacular will happen.

  • May 13, 2008, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Why all the fighting?

    by SKULL1138

    Why do people who want to be really abusive to each other, (you all know who you are, I dont have to say)on a movie news forum. <P> Isnt a regular chat forum more the place for that kind of thing. <P> Does this site not have any moderators at all, like almost every other site I have ever been on? <P> There dont seem to be any rules or behaviour codes in here, that is why this place ends up being a vacuum for all the people who want to type bad words into the computer for a laugh. <P> Perhaps they should make some no swearing, or abuse rules or you get banned <P> Just a thought <P> I just think its annoying that 2 thirds of this room is people abusing each other. <P> Why <P> P.S. Dont start with me, I wont respond

  • May 13, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST

    SKULL1138

    by DocPazuzu

    Yeah, I remember my first day on AICN too...

  • May 13, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    Gods bless you, SKULL1138

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    It is written in the Ain't It Cool charter that two thirds of any talkback MUST be abusing each other at all times. Non compliance if penalised by a severe juggfuckling. Either that or TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION. That, sir, is the AICN way!<p>I don't even like insulting people, but I do it from time to time just to keep the numbers up. Got a quota and all that. Cunt.

  • May 13, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    "Perhaps they should make some no swearing, or abuse rules or yo

    by Lost Jarv

    Good Lord! <P>What a horrible suggestion- that would truly rip the heart out of AICN. <P>What Noob's like you don't understand is that vitriol and hatred are part and parcel of the Talkback- and better than that, are frequently highly amusing. <P>What is astounding, though, is that despite 2/3 of each talkback being given over to abuse, underneath it all there is some great film chat. <P>Unless memories-of-cock is involved. He has no chat, filmic or otherwise.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Too true, Jarv

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Talking crap about films amidst a barrage of juvenile poo flinging is the heart of the AICN experience.<p>That's why I keep coming back. That and all the opportunities for sarcasm, of course.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    Okay fair enough

    by SKULL1138

    I am not a Noob by the way, been coming here for ages and I do post, but only on the films/TV projects I am interested in, and only while at work normally, so dont get much time. <P> I was just bored trying to pick out all the actual discussions on Indiana Jones from all the butt fucking and what not. <P> Just not my thing, perhaps I should find another site where they just discuss the story...any suggestions? <P> Not trying to put anyone down, its obvious I am alone in my argument <P> Thats cool

  • May 13, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    DocPaz, Franklin, & Jarv

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Agreed and well said. Although, I admit that I wouldn't mind a little more board moderation...or at least a Mod bitch-slap every once in awhile.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST

    It's the nature of the internets, unfortunately

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Slap up a site where anyone and everyone can express an opinion and the inevitable result is a certain amount of shit to wade through. Teenagers, deviants, angry assholes, people with mental health issues, Transformers fans (redundant, I know) - all can and will rush to vent a little venom. Nothing wrong with it, you just learn to either filter it out or make fun of them.<p>There may well be another site with heavier moderation, but those are usually pretty anodyne and, well, boring. Try calling a few people cunts, SKULL1138, you might like it.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    SKULL1138

    by DocPazuzu

    Try CHUD. Those guys started screaming like little girls after recently trying a talkback-alike for a bit.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    I liked it 15 years ago

    by SKULL1138

    Now i just cant be bothered...I have not liked other sites in the past, <P> Maybe I just have to put up with it and filter out the abuse to get to the interesting stuff, which is usually ok in here. <P> Cunts

  • May 13, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Or the Zone.

    by DocPazuzu

    They're also "sensitive".

  • May 13, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    Thanks, Ghost of Nixon.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I needed that.<P>Now, what's wrong with the BSG TBs?

  • May 13, 2008, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Or the Zone

    by Lost Jarv

    If you like AICN- the Zone is TB-lite. <P>Now where is that little cockend? Come back Memories, all is forgiven.... <P>*crosses fingers*

  • May 13, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST

    There is nothing online...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...even remotely as mad and hilarious and rewarding and infuriating as AICN talkback.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    There's just something about the internet...

    by rbatty024

    that makes it easier to pile abuse on people. Luckily, there's also something about the internet that makes it easy to ignore. If you can wade through the insults there are some people who are actually pretty knowledgeable about film.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    everyone has hit on it already, SKULL1138..

    by just pillow talk

    But that is what makes these talkbacks unique. Are you going to run across drippy little whores from time to time? Absolutely.<p>But you take the good with the bad, and there are those whose opinions I always like to hear on various subjects (non-movie related as well). <p>Ah, fuck CHUD too. When you have NoDiggity being the most reasonable on their message boards, that's all you need to know.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:35 a.m. CST

    It's the combo of...

    by DocPazuzu

    ...filmic insight and furiously obscene abuse that's so fucking great here.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    And no one abused me either

    by SKULL1138

    You all sent back good replies... <P> Cool

  • May 13, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    We even founded a religion

    by Lost Jarv

    that may, no fuck that- WILL, grow to become the most important movement in the 21st Century.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST

    Who you calling a cunt, cunt?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    See, abusing adolescent languange is fun for all the family!<p>Also, DocP is right. When the talkbacks are on form, there is nothing quite like it and very little so funny. Vern Vs Chaos, for example, or Vern Vs Horsefucking. In fact, Vern has some kind of magical talkback improvement power. The man even summoned Bruce motherfucking Willis. Where else in the world might you accidently exchange words with Bruce motherfucking Willis?

  • May 13, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Thats the end of work

    by SKULL1138

    Go home and have some fun time now. <P> Smell ya later

  • May 13, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST

    By the way, SKULL1138

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    What are your thoughts on Fantastic Four and Fantastic Four 2: Holy Shit That Is A Nude Silver Man On A Flying Surfboard? I only ask because all of us clever posters know them to be masterpieces.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:45 a.m. CST

    Well, that just makes me look bad

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    Nicking off like that.<p>What a cunt. ;p

  • May 13, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Ghost of Nixon

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Ah, I see. No worries. Daft cunt.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    Lost Jarv

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Have you seen Herc's latest DVD TB installment? There has been another sighting...

  • May 13, 2008, 10:55 a.m. CST

    MNG

    by Lost Jarv

    Yup, seen him. He only appears every now and again to drop a solitary pearl of wisdom that we must decipher over time. <P>Dude's crazy- I mean, he is god and everything, but he's still madder than a box of frogs.

  • May 13, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    I'm more depressed by the return of memories

    by Lost Jarv

    I've got to go and sharpen up my TB rapier. <P>And Franklin that horsefucking TB was hysterical if only for the moment when DocP broke down, his trademark eloquence deserted him, and he posted "Dude, you fuck animals" or something to that effect. <P>It was brilliant because there really was no getting round it.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST

    you're taking the appearance of your nemisis

    by just pillow talk

    all in stride Jarv.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST

    I would have thought pencil jihad would be in

    by just pillow talk

    full swing. <p>I really wanted to smite Merriman Lyons last week. That muthafucking cunt was driving me insane.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST

    he is frustrating

    by Lost Jarv

    it is irritating me because what do the likes of him, diggers etc want from us? <p>"Oh you were right, oh filmic sages of the talkback. Can I suck your cock now?"

  • May 13, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    fight the *good* fight Frankie...

    by just pillow talk

    Spread your word. Let deaf ears hear your message....<p>Though if you were a devout follower of the CoC, you would see the error in your misguided ways....cunt.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Jarv

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    I know and it's weird. M-O-M just showed up out of nowhere in one of the other INDY 4 TBs:<P> http://tinyurl.com/3qou8d<P>I thought he had been banned but that does not appear to be the case.<P>And yes, the Equinas Horsefucking TB is hilarious...but it's also the most disturbing TB I've ever seen on AICN. That Equinas guy is a monster.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    Fantastic Four was dire

    by Lost Jarv

    really, really poo. And not in a good way. I hated the first one so much that I refused to watch the sequel.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    MNG

    by Lost Jarv

    he was on the receiving end of a psuedo-banning (deletion but still intact username). He's like AnimalNazi- just unkillable.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:15 a.m. CST

    Hola Jarv, JPT,MNG

    by toadkillerdog

    I remember that horsefucking TB. That may have been the first time I posted - and because it was so damn strange, it was the last time I posted for quite a while. <p> He fucks horses, and is proud of it.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:17 a.m. CST

    Hey TKD

    by Lost Jarv

    On that pleasant, non-deviant in any way note I'm outta here. <P>Horsefucking. Bizarre.

  • May 13, 2008, 11:21 a.m. CST

    Quaff a few pints for me Lost Jarv

    by toadkillerdog

    I still have five hours of work ahead of me before I pound some ale!

  • May 13, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST

    aw, how touching M-O-M.....

    by just pillow talk

    I see you are behaving yourself so far...<p>Were you on a self-imposed ban or what?

  • May 13, 2008, 12:13 p.m. CST

    M-O-M...

    by just pillow talk

    Now then, I agree/disagree with you on your TOD post above. While I generally prefer TOD over TLC, I can't say that TLC doesn't 'feel' like an Indy movie. It's still part of the Indy mythos, there's just parts that I don't like. But I still really enjoy TLC, just prefer TOD. Probably because it is different than Raiders. <p>Now, I'm not sure how you can say the latest Indy film doesn't seem like a "genuine" Indy film. We haven't seen it yet, though from the latest trailers, I got the Indy vibe. <p>And you feel skeptical, I do not. Perhaps it's the hope of seeing another quality Indy adventure, but I'm going to go into the next Indy looking forward to it. If it disappoints, I won't sugar-coat it and say it was a great, fun movie when it was not.<p>You should do the same. Can you do that? You say another solid Indy adventure would make you happy, so then throw out the skepticism for now, and wait to see the movie before making a judgment about it.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    TLC

    by STLost

    I think what bothers me the most about TLC is how they portray Brody and Sallah. Brody for the first half of the movie was pretty much on target, then his character sort of derails and becomes a bumbling sidekick. Sallah just seems like he's added for a throwback to Raiders and mainly and cheaply, for laughs. Granted he was a little dopey in a few scenes in Raiders, but here he is just played for schtick.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Same old crap

    by rogueleader66

    I have said it before and I will say it again, so many people on here claim to be movie fanatics, but they are anything but, I have never seen a group of people who say they love movies so much but hate so many movies. This nonsense of judging a movie based on trailers and word of mouth is ridiculous. Do you people (the haters) have your own minds? Obviously not because you make judgements on movies that you have not even seen, you are just going by word of mouth or trailers or supposedly legit "reviews" from people who claim to have seen the movie. Here's a radical idea, go see the fucking movie, then if you hate it your argument and criticisms will have some basis in fact. Until you have the brains to do that, do us a favor and shut the fuck up with your stupid hateful nonsensical rantings about movies you have not even seen.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:41 p.m. CST

    rogueleader66

    by just pillow talk

    Amen brother. Though it does seem like the number of people who actually already *hate* the new Indy movie isn't that many, it's just a few who are VERY vocal and pointy headed, and refuse to listen to any valid and reasonable points.<p>STLost, I completely agree, and I think that's a valid criticism of TLC. I've always been sort of torn with Connery's part in it. A little too much comic relief, but for me, these are minor gripes as I would never, ever, shut off TLC if I come across it on cable.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by just pillow talk

    Okay, now we are getting somewhere...<p>First Iron Man. I too never really got into IM when I used to read Marvel, he was always a 'fringe' hero for me, but again, it has all to do with the casting decision of RDJ. I enjoyed the hell out of it, and while I need to see it a second time to properly put it into perspective, off off the first viewing it was my favorite Marvel origin movie.<p>And you're on a roll, cause I also enjoyed M&C, Perfume, and BB. Perfume was recommended to me by Frankie T. Marmoset, and that was a good movie. Probably my favorite Dustin role in a long time. And the other two, well I thought M&C was a solid movie, and I love BB.<p>And I can completely see your view (and others) on Crusade. It rubs people the wrong way in a number of aspects. Again, I can still enjoy the movie for what it is.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    g-ride9000, I understand everything now...

    by poeticwarriorII

    you're not satisfied until you make a cunt out of yourself and let everyone know it. Unfortunately, you're such a colossal fuck up and your posts lack any imagination or humor, you're not very good at that either. So, just let me set the record straight for some of you that have yet to realize that g-ride is in fact a bleeding torn cunt! In the future please put more effort into your posts as I know you're the kind of guy that enjoys being shit on and quite frankly there's not a whole lot there to work with.

  • May 13, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    M-O-M

    by rogueleader66

    I appreciate your honesty, it's nice to see someone on here who thinks a movie looks bad yet actually wants to be proven wrong, as most of the haters are pig headed assholes who pre-judge a movie and will maintain their hatred, even if they actually liked the film, just so they don't look like even bigger assholes. They will come and say "See i was right (movie title) sucked like i said it would", meanwhile they love it and have seen it 5 times. I'm willing to bet a lot of haters are like that but we won't ever know it because they are too busy trying to make the world think they are so smart when in fact they are as stupid as they come.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    by STLost

    While I do have problems with TLC, I do still watch it and think it fits in the Indiana Jones mythology. I just feel it's the weakest of the three.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    M-O-M, rogue is talking about those who

    by just pillow talk

    hate just for the sake of hating, who immediately have made up their mind about a move before seeing it. They let someone else's opinion totally guide them into making a pre-determined judgment on a particular movie. <p>And it's their mission to tell everyone that they are wrong, that the movie will suck, and that they are right. The "I told you so" gets kind of old when no one has seen the movie yet.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST

    yeah, I have no doubt Iron Man will be a

    by just pillow talk

    multiple-viewed movie for me, much like Batman Begins. I also like the Burger King placement, which I found to be pretty hysterical for being so blatant.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Whoa!

    by STLost

    What about "King Solomon's Mines"? Or "Alan Quartermain and the Lost City of Gold"? Who can forget these Indy clones.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:33 p.m. CST

    yeah, my theater too found that part quite amusing

    by just pillow talk

    And yes, Transformers still sucks, as I just caught it for the second time a couple of nights ago. That movie should have been trimmed down 30 - 40 minutes, and that's just dealing with the time issue, not the horrendous characters. <p>And I really like everything Nolan has done, probably insomnia being my least favorite. I am extremely excited to see TDK, as I think that will probably top every other previous comic book adaption. From my perspective, I cannot for the life of me understand the hate that Nolan receives in general, or the hate Batman Begins receives specifically.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST

    Poetic lullaby

    by g-ride9000

    Yawn! You make me sleepy.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:51 p.m. CST

    yes, if it's on cable, I'll give another movie a shot

    by just pillow talk

    Because there are times where I'll grow to like a movie after seeing it a second time. <p>Transformers is not one of them.<p>I never saw The Island, though I would watch it to see Scarlet run...and run...and run.<p>And I certainly get the feeling that TDK will surpass BB in every regard, cause I just love everything I've seen so far.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    I just caught Serenity a second time...

    by just pillow talk

    and I found it an enjoyable little movie. I never watched Firefly, but found it entertaining enough.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:53 p.m. CST

    Re: the Burger King product placement...

    by Rickey Henderson

    Yeah that irrirated Rickey a bit... Are the ad people even trying at this point? That's kind of offensive (to the Islamic culture) and flat out lazy. Screw those brown people in Afghanistan--this is the home of The Whopper!

  • May 13, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    MOM - just a small nit to pick

    by toadkillerdog

    The Godfather part 2 is a truly excellent movie and along with The Godfather, they are 1a and 1 (at least this week, next week they may reverse yet again).<p> My point is that part 2 does not put Godfather 'out of the water' as you say. They swim side by side. <p> Otherwise, I enjoyed reading your passionate defense of films.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Just Pillow Talk

    by toadkillerdog

    I never saw Firefly either, but truly enjoyed Serenity.

  • May 13, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST

    toad

    by just pillow talk

    It made me wonder if I missed the boat with the short-lived series, though I suppose I would have just been pissed off that they canceled it (I'm thinking JourneyMan here...).

  • May 13, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Hamburgers are made out of beef

    by toadkillerdog

    Not pork.

  • May 13, 2008, 2 p.m. CST

    Brunomac

    by just pillow talk

    You're the first poster to mention his age. Odd....

  • May 13, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST

    Memories-Of-Murder, Rickey understood that

    by Rickey Henderson

    And it was neither subtle nor funny. But hey, this is a film that uses dying Afghanistan villagers as a plot device to enable Robert Downey Jr's heroic awakening, so why should be expect any less? Here's the thing: politically, IRON MAN is a complete mess of a film. It's all over the place, going from treating Afghanis as helpless people in need of paternalistic U.S. intervention, or flat out vilifying them as mindless terrorist savages. Sure the movie was fun, but it was also pretty mindless and silly too. Not too far removed from Transformers.

  • May 13, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Rickey

    by just pillow talk

    I have to disagree. I did not have a problem with them using Afghanistan as the place where Stark gets wounded. It makes sense using a current real world "hot-spot". Now, as Stark didn't really care about the nitty-gritty of how his weapons were used before, I'm not sure why you have a problem with his "awakening". He realized that his own weapons were being used against American soldiers, and that innocent Afghani's were being harmed by those who took his weapons. <p>Now just like any other action movie, it's easy to vilify a group to make them the movie's main bad guys. So what's the problem?

  • May 13, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    Xi, no problem dude

    by just pillow talk

    In any case, that doesn't change what I said yesterday.

  • May 13, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST

    M-O-M...

    by just pillow talk

    Nathan was great in that role, though I would not want any further adventures of Indy without Harrison. In this case, for me anyways, this is not like Bond where different actors can step into the role. Indy is Harrison, and the character goes the way of the dodo bird once Harrison is done with him.

  • May 13, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST

    JPT/Brunomac...

    by Rickey Henderson

    It's not a huge deal--overall, the movie was pretty entertaining. The whole real world angle just rubbed Rickey the wrong way, that's all. Rickey aint to keen on the idea of a 10 year old sitting down in the movie theater and being convinced that deploying Iron Man in the Middle East is the answer to all our problems. Fuck NATO, Iron Man's on the job! See what Rickey's getting at? The movie is fun and whatnot, but in it's own way, it's just as unabashedly patriotic as a Michael Bay movies. It's a parable about snazzy military technology being deployed to solve out problems in the Middle East. Yes, they villify Stark's company for selling arms illegally, but that's a very shallow and facile characterization of the situation. If it only WERE that simple, we would've busted a company like Halliburton years ago. In reality, the situation is more complex. Rickey's point is that you can't toss issues like this into a big budget comic book movie and expect em to work or be even remotely effective. And yes, the original Iron Man origin had Stark in Vietnam, Rickey understands that. They should've left out the subtext--just Rickey's two cents.

  • May 13, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    I didn't get that at all...IM being the solution

    by just pillow talk

    to the Middle East problems. Nor did I take it as overly patriotic. Stark decided enough was enough, and had to just *act* on his feelings of what he, and his company, had done to American soldiers and innocent Afghani's. Where do you think the movie was overly patriotic Rickey?

  • May 13, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    JPT

    by Rickey Henderson

    The part where Iron Man drops out of the sky to rescue Afgahni villagers seemed like a parable for "Shock and Awe". But maybe that's just Rickey reading into it a bit much.

  • May 13, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST

    I believe he's the genuine article Danny...

    by just pillow talk

    That's pretty funny Orcus...action grandpa.<p>Later boys, time to go home.

  • May 13, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Rickey...

    by just pillow talk