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ABC Chops Down TREES!! REAPER To Rise Again?? The Hollywood Reporter Looks At The ‘Bubble’ Landscape!!

Published at:  May 06, 2008 5:30:44 PM CDT

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We’re about a week from when the networks start announcing their fall schedules, and The Hollywood Reporter’s James Hibberd is handicapping:

DEAD:
Men in Trees

UNLIKELY TO RETURN:
Cashmere Mafia
October Road
Shark

LIKELY TO RETURN:
Boston Legal
Moonlight
The New Adventures of Old Christine
Reaper

ANYBODY’S GUESS:
Eli Stone
Women’s Murder Club


Read all of the Reporter’s story on the matter here.

UPDATE!! People are sending socks to the CW to save “Reaper.” Read Wanda Two Saints’ story on that campaign here.






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  • May 04, 2008 11:07:34 PM CDT

    cool

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    I like reaper

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  • May 04, 2008 11:07:42 PM CDT

    Reaper

    by dogma_jedi

    The 1st episode was funny. Too bad Kevin Smith couldn't work on all of them.

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  • May 04, 2008 11:07:54 PM CDT

    Never heard of MEN IN TREES

    by mullah omar

    I suspect I am not alone in that regard.

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  • May 04, 2008 11:07:56 PM CDT

    FIRST?

    by bill clay

    Guess no one cares about these show?

    Reply to Talkback

  • May 04, 2008 11:08:16 PM CDT

    too bad about trees

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    a friend of mine directed some episodes. She could have used the residuals.

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  • May 04, 2008 11:08:25 PM CDT

    FIFTH?

    by bill clay

  • May 04, 2008 11:15:56 PM CDT

    Reaper's the only one I give a damn about

    by aversiontherapy2

    I'll keep my fingers crossed.

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  • May 04, 2008 11:17:07 PM CDT

    Go Reaper

    by flickchick85

    This show is JUST starting to realize it's potential. It would truly be a shame if it were to end now. Glad to hear it might actually come back.

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  • May 04, 2008 11:18:02 PM CDT

    Eli Stone deserves a shot

    by zacdilone

    But it needs to expand its pop music prophet base--George Michael is getting a little old.

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  • May 04, 2008 11:23:12 PM CDT

    What about Journeyman?

    by pops freshemeyer

  • May 04, 2008 11:24:42 PM CDT

    WooHoo!

    by mrd

    For both Reaper and Shark. I really like Reaper, and think it has the potential to become a very good show if they continue to build on the mythology they've established. It'd be a perfect partner for Supernatural, too.

    As for Shark, my wife and I watch it, but I watch it mainly for my wife - even if I do love to watch Jimmy Woods chew the scenary. Still, that's an hour of my life I get back every other week.

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  • May 04, 2008 11:25:46 PM CDT

    Right now, somewhere on the internets...

    by mrd

    ... is some chick site where they're all crying about Men In Trees, and asking "What's Reaper?"

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  • May 04, 2008 11:30:06 PM CDT

    Journeyman

    by hercules

    is not on NBC's fall slate.

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  • May 04, 2008 11:32:37 PM CDT

    To anticipate other NBC-related questions...

    by hercules

    The peacock announced its slate a month ago:

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36245

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  • May 04, 2008 11:44:04 PM CDT

    THE UNIT?!?!

    by charlie murphy

    I read Stone was pretty much a lock unless abc loved every one of their fall pilots... Reaper is a surprise, as is Shark's likely demise. Are you really gonna do James Woods like that? and what about the Unit, dammit?!??????!

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  • May 04, 2008 11:44:38 PM CDT

    Eli Stone deserves to be shot

    by inwosuxred

    or at least move it to a timeslot that doesn't allow me to ever see any part of it, and doesn't involve me seeing constant "next on Eli Stone" commercials. That means pretty much move it to any spot in the line up that doesn't follow Lost.

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  • May 05, 2008 12:05:38 AM CDT

    Reaper, yes! - things are looking up

    by aloy

    Cool, now we have Reaper and Terminator to look forward to this Fall (along with Eureka).

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  • May 05, 2008 12:07:13 AM CDT

    What about Aliens in America?

    by mikehoncho

    What was the word on that show?

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  • May 05, 2008 12:19:13 AM CDT

    Scrubs

    by nebs

    I haven't seen any mention on AICN yet about ABC picking up Scrubs, even though it's already been made official.

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  • May 05, 2008 12:25:22 AM CDT

    The Journeyman wound is still too fresh.

    by gotilk

  • May 05, 2008 12:49:55 AM CDT

    Reaper is a funny Brimstone...

    by lynxpro

    Maybe John Glover can pop in for a guest appearance now that he is no longer needed on Smallville.

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  • May 05, 2008 1:03:13 AM CDT

    Reaper deserves this...

    by danielkurland

    Their latest episodes have shown that they can carry over a good arc, as opposed to just episodic stuff. That rebellion episode was one of the my favorite episodes of any show this season.

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  • May 05, 2008 1:22:59 AM CDT

    Herc doesn't follow AICN's own advice

    by don lockwood

    USE TINYURL, you wheeled bastard.

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  • May 05, 2008 1:40:21 AM CDT

    Herc, please do coverage of Reaper...

    by prof. pop-cult

    Especially as it heads towards its season finale. It really could use the love, not after-the-fact, like what happened with Coaxial towards Jericho.Reaper has A LOT of geek cred: Kevin Smith is a consulting producer. The show is like a guy version of Buffy crossed with Ghostbusters. (In fact, Anthony Stewart Head auditioned for the role of the Devil.) Joss Whedon keeps getting praise (deserved or not) for coming up with cool, strong female characters. But I feel the creators of Reaper, Tara Butters and Michele Fazekas, should also be getting similar acclaim for being two women who created a cool series that nails down the psyche and attitude of young 20something males today. If you yourself don't watch this show, or care to begin, then at least give fans a Talkback for the remaining episodes. Thanks.

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  • May 05, 2008 2:31:33 AM CDT

    next year last for smallville?

    by bacci40

    so why in the fuck are they introducing 2 new villians? and reaper's pilot was good, the show pretty much blew chunks...and if aliens in america isnt dead...it should be...maybe im alone here, but im not all that interested in next season's fare

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  • May 05, 2008 2:48:54 AM CDT

    Happy to see Reaper return

    by the selecter

    but I think it got lucky. The CW cupboard is bare, and the strike-truncated pilot season didn't help.I heard Breaking Bad also got a pickup. Now we just need for Hollywood not to mess things up with a SAG/AFTRA conflict.

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  • May 05, 2008 4:05:54 AM CDT

    Reaper works

    by aversiontherapy2

    it's fun, well produced and that Missy chick is hot. What else is needed?

    Reply to Talkback

  • May 05, 2008 4:19:21 AM CDT

    Reaper is the only one of those shows i watch

    by newc0253

    sorry, Josh Schwartz, but it's funnier and cleverer than Chuck.

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  • May 05, 2008 4:24:18 AM CDT

    p.s. don't get me wrong, i like Chuck

    by newc0253

    that blonde CIA chick is hot, especially in her weinermaid outfit.

    but Reaper (Chuck's closest comparator in the guy-who-works-in-giant-Mart-store-has-secret-double-life-with-special-powers genre) is better written and funnier.

    also, Missy Pereygyymyym is hotter.

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  • May 05, 2008 5:20:41 AM CDT

    The girl in chuck is real hot..look here to see

    by optimus122

    http://tinyurl.com/5ehdjc

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  • May 05, 2008 6:04:16 AM CDT

    btw, i got 2 firsts in a row today

    by s0nicdeathmonkey

    and I also got laid...and I watched pulp fiction and I'm still up at 4 AM. what the hell is wrong with me.

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  • May 05, 2008 6:36:36 AM CDT

    good news about reaper

    by palewook

    but being on the cw continues to be the bad part.

    Reply to Talkback

  • May 05, 2008 6:53:04 AM CDT

    Moonlight's fun and entertaining

    by yeti

    Embrace the cheese!

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  • May 05, 2008 6:53:35 AM CDT

    Aliens in America

    by chrth

    While not cancelled yet, my understanding is that the actors have been given notice to look for other work. I believe there's a variety article on it.
    Go Reaper!

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  • May 05, 2008 7:09:34 AM CDT

    Wait, is James Hibberd any good at handicapping?

    by tonagan

    Or is he just talking out of his posterior?

    Reply to Talkback

  • May 05, 2008 7:46:06 AM CDT

    Reaper = profoundly lucky...

    by pennsy

    Except for Gossip Girl and America's Next Top Anorexic, what else does the CW have that brings in viewers?

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  • May 05, 2008 9:11:08 AM CDT

    Pennsy: Smackdown, of course

    by chrth

    Of course, they're getting rid of their #1 rated show because it doesn't meet their Demo needs anymore.

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  • May 05, 2008 9:14:38 AM CDT

    They killed MiT from the start though

    by godzillasushi

    I watched it for a while and liked it. But since they buried it in bad timeslots it never did as well as it was capable of. It's a shame, since it wasn't a bad show. Really, it wasn't. Better then the competition.

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  • May 05, 2008 10:18:59 AM CDT

    What I'm hoping about Reaper.

    by beastie

    I hope that the show's writers really start to go the Buffy/Angel route; making the story considerably more epic and not quite as episodic. This show has a lot of potential and the writers/producers don't seem to be utilizing it that much. Of course that may have something to do with the strike.

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  • May 05, 2008 10:24:40 AM CDT

    Never seen Men in Trees and have no desire to

    by big jim

    so it matters not to me. Same can be said for Women’s Murder Club and New Christine.I may have seen the first episode of Cashmere Mafia, or it may have been the other one (I was the one with Kim Raver). Anyway, it was dreadful. Felt the same way after struggling through the first few episodes of October Road. Neither show is any great loss as far as I am concerned. Maybe now Kim Raver & Laura Prepon can find something good to do.Watched only the first episode of Moonlight and while I saw some promise in it, it just didn't have enough to make me want to see more. But I know it has some die-hard fans, so good for them their show will probably be back.I watched the first season of Shark, mainly for James Woods, but that was enough for me. When season 2 started I had no desire to se another episode. Maybe James Woods can join Kim Raver & Laura Prepon on their new show?I've watched Boston Legal since the beginning but an tiring of it. Am on the fence as to whether or not I will tune in again next season.I really do hope Reaper is back next year. It has grown on me, as did Eli Stone which I found to be the second-most surprising show of the year (most surprising being Journeyman). I had low expectations based on the ad campaign but found it to be a refreshingly original and entertaining show.

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  • May 05, 2008 10:28:51 AM CDT

    Big Jim: That wasn't Cashmere Mafia

    by chrth

    Crap, I forget the title now ... but anyway, last I heard ABC is bringing it back since it scored gangbusters with the female demo.

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  • May 05, 2008 10:29:52 AM CDT

    Miss Guided?

    by monki

    Herc, any word on the fate of Miss Guided? Great scripted new show that everyone I've talked to seemed to love.

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  • May 05, 2008 10:33:19 AM CDT

    For people who say Reaper...

    by lenny nero

    ...only had a good pilot and nothing else probably gave up during the strike, because the post-strike eps are just barely short of brilliant. Ken Marino and Michael Ian Black are worth the price of admission alone (or whatever it is in TV Land).

    And for those who don't know, "Men In Trees" was the Anne Heche vehicle about a self-help romance guru who moves to a small Alaskan town after breaking up with her fiance. For what it was, it wasn't bad, actually, and the ensemble (including Abe Benrubi, Lauren Tom and Cynthia Stevenson) was better than the show.

    And Big Jim, the one you're thinking of is "Lipstick Jungle," which whatever your feelings for the "Sex & The City" genre, was actually much better than "Cashmere Mafia" and grew into a nice, easy-going and surprisingly mature show.

    And yes, I watch guy shows, too.

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  • May 05, 2008 10:33:57 AM CDT

    And yes, "Miss Guided" was hilarious.

    by lenny nero

    See? There I go again with another dubbed "chick show." I have a wife, dammit!

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  • May 05, 2008 10:51:05 AM CDT

    OK. I'm completely left behind.

    by beastie

    I wasn't aware that Reaper came back after the strike. I thought that I had read that it would wait until fall.I really liked what I saw of Reaper, before the strike, but saw the potential to love it. I'm gonna have to go catch up.

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  • May 05, 2008 11:03:15 AM CDT

    Lenny, I have no ill will toward the genre

    by big jim

    I have even been known to enjoy a few shows that fall into that category. I just found the first episode of Lipstick Jungle didn't work for me. I think they tried to do too much to hook the audience before we knew who these characters were. Maybe, as a man, I didn't like Kim Raver cheating on her husband because he had to work and couldn't attend her event. Maybe women found it justified but I just thought, "wow, what a selfish bitch". If it had happened a few episodes later, after developing her character and her relationship with her husband, I might have gotten it. As for the other two characters, I didn't find either of them interesting either. But it's good to know it got better and if you & your wife enjoy it then I am happy for you.I too think Miss Guided was a great show. Funniest 1/2 hour sitcom of the year (if you can call it a sitcom). I've always enjoyed Judy Greer, I think she is hilarious. I often find some of the best jokes are the throwaway ones. For example, when doing one of the asides, in the background was a banner for a sports team (I think it was football). It had "District Champion - 1968" and that's all. This big banner and there was only one date 40 years ago.

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  • May 05, 2008 11:10:54 AM CDT

    Glad for Reaper

    by samblackchvrch21

    Its agreat show and the last few episodes with The State Alumni Ken Marino and Michael Ian Black have been phenominal. And Ray Wise is THE BEST Devil. But what about Miss Guided, that show was off to a decent start or more importantly, How I Met Your Mother?

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  • May 05, 2008 11:30:19 AM CDT

    Great to hear about Reaper getting renewed

    by indyjonez100

    Is it coming back on ABC then? Still wish Journeyman was coming back. Oh well, one out of two bubble shows I watch ain't all that bad.

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  • May 05, 2008 11:54:28 AM CDT

    Big Jim, Raver's adultery...

    by lenny nero

    ...is actually a fairly complex explanation, along with simple character flaws I found refreshingly realistic, but no, they were not explored in the first episode. The entire first season is only seven eps, so I'd recommend catching it on Netflix some time this fall if you can.

    Sorry for jumping the gun about female-type shows. It's just very hard to find someone on this site who seems to be able to put their false masculinity away and actually enjoy something with a little more estrogen. It takes all kinds, and that includes the world of television.

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  • May 05, 2008 12:18:15 PM CDT

    Anne Heche loses again

    by mgthedj

    I think Steve Martin's venting on Anne through the character in the movie Bowfinger was prophetic. This woman just cannot keep from self destructing. She fucked her way to the B-list (doing men and women), ABc took pity on her after the disasterous Bab Wawa interview, built a show for her with a decent cast and crew, and the first thing she did was fuck someone on the set, leading to a nasty divorce that cost ABC time and money. She's may get a job at NBC on one of their soaps, if they are still making those shows 18 months from now.Glad October Road died, that show needed to go. Reaper I'll have to catch up on now that it looks like it will be back in the fall.-----later-----m

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  • May 05, 2008 12:33:18 PM CDT

    miss guided is pretty good

    by mthrndr

    Though if it weren't for Chris Parnell doing some of his best work to date as the vice principal, I probably wouldn't bother with it.

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  • May 05, 2008 12:43:35 PM CDT

    MrD

    by mecps

    You're right on the money about pairing Reaper with Supernatural. It might seem a liitle weird at first to pair two shows that deal with Hell in such different fashions, but Reaper HAS to be a better match with Supernatural than Smallville currently is.

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  • May 05, 2008 1:32:08 PM CDT

    OMG...Paula Marshall Kills ANOTHER Show!!!

    by deandome

    Too fuckin' funny!! Paula "Show Killer" Marshall joins Shark..one episode airs, then it gets cancelled. I just don't get it...I kinda like her, but she really is the kiss of death!!

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  • May 05, 2008 2:20:13 PM CDT

    What happened to Sharks ratings?

    by drewlicious

    That show did pretty well last year. What, did CBS do that timeslot switching crap and kill it? Glad to hear about Reaper, though. Had kinf of a crush on the devil's daughter for a while.

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  • May 05, 2008 4:09:09 PM CDT

    Hey, Paula Marshall didn't kill "Nip/Tuck."

    by lenny nero

    But yes, she is a curse. I'm surprised "Chuck" survived to live another season, seeing as how Adam Baldwin's in the cast and everything.

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  • May 05, 2008 4:46:45 PM CDT

    Another reason why you should watch Reaper: Ray Wise

    by prof. pop-cult

    And he's another reason why Coaxial should be doing more Reaper coverage. His role as the Devil is his second-best (or first best?) ever in his career. (His other best role is, of course, as Leland Palmer in Twin Peaks.)And as others here have pointed out, Reaper definitely has the potential and epic storytelling arcs to become the next Buffy or Angel. It is also the ONLY scripted drama on The CW which is skewed more towards the geek male demographic. (Supernatural skews more toward females.) It is an absolute injustice that Reaper has been on the bubble -- when, in fact, its average ratings per episode have been HIGHER than that of Gossip Girl. But because The CW is trying to lock onto a young female demo, they've been neglecting Reaper.

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  • May 05, 2008 4:52:01 PM CDT

    Yeah on Reaper

    by _maltheus_

    I liked the pilot, then kind of started getting bored with it, but it got a lot better towards the end. And it's not like the CW has anything else worth watching (cept Smallville, less and less). I think the WB and the UPN were each independently better than the CW. But such is the case with mergers. Employees, customers and often even stockholders all get screwed.

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  • May 05, 2008 5:05:51 PM CDT

    Yeah, but if WB and UPN were still separate networks...

    by lenny nero

    ...we would never get the glory of the MyNetworkTV channel, with brilliant programming such as "Paradise Hotel 2" and "Under One Roof" starring Flavor Flaaaaaaaav!

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  • May 05, 2008 6:00:56 PM CDT

    MyNetworkTV

    by mr. profit

    Surprised me with how a bootleg ass network was able to litter NYC with ads for Fashion House. Worst ads and show ever. They all said Bo vs Morgan assuming that people wanted to see Morgan Fairchild and Bo Derek badly reenact over the top catfights stolen from Dynasty. Id rather watch "the side boob hour" on PTV.

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  • May 05, 2008 6:30:31 PM CDT

    ABC will pick up Eli Stone...

    by cheif brody

    ...and pair it wit Pushing Daisies. 8pm Dancing With the Stars...9pm Pushing Daisies....10pm Eli Stone.
    There's your Wednesday night, ABC. Send me a programming check.

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  • May 05, 2008 7:04:58 PM CDT

    Ahhh...but Dancing w/ Stars results...

    by lenny nero

    ...is always Tuesday. Would they want to put Daisies up against the first two months of "Idol" in the spring? Those shows run two hours.

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  • May 05, 2008 7:17:00 PM CDT

    Not only is Numb3rs still on

    by chrth

    it's the #1 show on Friday. It's going to be on the air for a long time. And with the acting talent on it, it definitely deserves to be.

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  • May 05, 2008 7:29:00 PM CDT

    They gotta put SOMETHING up against Idol, Len...

    by cheif brody

    But I thought we were talkin Fall here...not Spring.

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  • May 05, 2008 7:31:16 PM CDT

    Still Tuesday, Brody.

    by lenny nero

    And I would think "Daisies" into "Stone" would be too much whimsy back-to-back, but hey, it could work.

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  • May 05, 2008 7:42:09 PM CDT

    REAPER FUCK YEAH

    by crayon

    That's all I care about. Gimme more more more

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  • May 05, 2008 8:03:48 PM CDT

    Any Word on New Amsterdam?

    by deandome

    Great show...but I dunno if it's been renewed, if it's bubbling, or if it's cancelled.

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  • May 05, 2008 8:26:09 PM CDT

    Moonlight is...okay.

    by lenny nero

    It started off as a bad rip-off of "Angel" and "Forever Knight," but it created a fairly solid mythology and a pretty charismatic lead in Mick St. John. The female lead, Sophia Myles, is miserable, though. Both in acting and character.

    But no, it's a silly show, so to compare it to "Jericho" wouldn't be very prudent.

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  • May 05, 2008 8:49:17 PM CDT

    Reaper

    by iago76

    Obviously John Glover should guest star as God in an ironic nod to Brimstone...

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  • May 05, 2008 11:42:05 PM CDT

    Good to see Reaper may make it

    by tvguy4566

    The showrunners wisely dropped the demon of the week as the main focus of the show. That formula got old real fast. Now that they have them wrapping up the weekly demon storyline by the midpoint commercial break and are starting to develop story archs, the show is finding its voice.

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  • May 06, 2008 12:54:54 AM CDT

    No one here will care but

    by napoleon park

    Cashmere Mafia was the ABC one with Lucy Liu, Lipstick Jungle is the NBC one with Kim Raver.IIRC

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  • May 06, 2008 7:52:06 AM CDT

    C'mooooooooooooon Reaper

    by robfrombackeast

    It's the only new show i've gotten into and i love the fucker. Great cast and very very funny.

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  • May 06, 2008 11:17:00 AM CDT

    More Reaper? HELL YES!!!

    by cletus van damme

    Bring it!

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  • May 06, 2008 12:36:16 PM CDT

    Side-boob hour

    by nyj_et

    I'd watch that.

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  • May 06, 2008 1:52:00 PM CDT

    Yes! Reaper is back!

    by hamtaro hentai

    And Burn Notice 2.x starts in 2 months bitches! ALL of my shows got renewed this time!!

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  • May 06, 2008 11:59:11 PM CDT

    Nooo! Don't kill Eli Stone!

    by annoyyou

    I've just gotten past my knee-jerk "OMG, you were Angelina Jolie's first husband AND Sickboy!" whenever I look at Jonny Lee Miller! I think he's adorable now and I really love the show - I hope to God they don't axe it. The cast is actually coalescing into something interesting. As for Reaper - YAY. I love that show.

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