April 29, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST
They've had time to get this all right by now.
April 29, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST
by just pillow talk
and have him rip people's throats out and whatnot.
April 29, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST
by Abin Sur
I thought I'D be the asshole that said it for a change.
April 29, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST
(just trying to figure out how herc's amazon links tie into the story)
April 29, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST
boom!<p> i hope the african employees of CTU are less liable to betrayal and ill-timed family crises than the californian staff.
April 29, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST
Uhhhh... Might want to fix that on the Coax.
April 29, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST
April 29, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST
But the tree had it comming, see?
April 29, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST
by Osmosis Jones
April 29, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST
hurry Jack she's waiting there for you
April 29, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST
The hood creates an SEP field, which is a lot more effective
April 29, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST
to defeat Jack Bauer.
April 29, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST
im sure it will be good and i will watch it though....im just pissed that they are making us wait over a year for new episodes. even after last season blew like that.
April 29, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST
And they go on an ass-kicking rampage that is exponentially greater than what could be accomplished on their own. The ending: *spoiler* your tv explodes, impaling you with glass shards.
April 29, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST
by Dwide Shrewd
There are many more predatory animals on the savannah than there are in the backwoods of SoCal.
April 29, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST
April 29, 2008, 3:12 p.m. CST
I saw it last night and can't stop thinking about it. Tony Stark knows how to deal with this nation's enemies.
April 29, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST
Jesus, what year is this?
April 29, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST
What kind of fucked up term is that! You couldn't be more racist...
April 29, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST
Mozambique, and Botswana! So let us speak about the Motherland!
April 29, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST
by lucid dreamstate
i never thought i'd read a stet reference on aicn. good one.
April 29, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST
C'mon people: "Dark Continent may refer to: A 19th century expression previously used to describe Africa, particularly Sub-Saharan Africa. As little was known about the continent's interior geography, map-makers would often leave this region dark. "
April 29, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST
Is when Jack comes across the hybrid human/gazelle, who tells him that Chloe O'Brien is the herald of the apocalypse, the harbinger of death.
April 29, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST
"The Dark Continent" is a pejorative term steeped in the ignorance of the 19th Century and while it doesn't refer to skin colour it does refer to the then supposed notion of the "uncivilised" and backward nature of the people of Africa.<br><br>At worst the term could definitely be considered racist; at best it's just a very poor choice of words.
April 29, 2008, 4:19 p.m. CST
or is an ironic use of the term a possibility you just hadn't considered?
April 29, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST
...is a racist term in the same way "niggardly" is... that is, not at all unless you're a moron.
April 29, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST
...you perhaps don't know the definition of.
April 29, 2008, 4:29 p.m. CST
by Leopold Scotch
I also wonder how they're going to pull off his ressurection and make it seem plausible. Ah, who cares, as long as he comes back.<br><br>That said, it'd be good if it was like:<br><br>Jack: "Tony? But you're... How can this be?"<br>Tony: "I didn't die, jack. My face just got cold, so they covered it up with a blanket. Now that my face is nice and toasty, I have retu- DON'T touch the syringe sticking out of me!"<br>Jack: "Of course... I understand now. I should have figured it out when there was no silent clock. Cold face, huh? Tough break..."
April 29, 2008, 4:31 p.m. CST
someone needs to learn an important lesson from a badly burned albanian boy.
April 29, 2008, 4:33 p.m. CST
'Characterized by or constituting irony'.<p> but that just might be my racist dictionary lying to me.<p>
April 29, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST
1: Naked Mandy. 2: JackSack. 3: Berooz. That's it dammit!
April 29, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST
...the next lesson is explaining to me what part of the intro constituted even a little bit of irony. (Oh, and by the way, when defining a word it's best not to use that word as part of the definition.)
April 29, 2008, 4:48 p.m. CST
by Leopold Scotch
The term probably is colonial in origin. Though it was never intended as derogatory, I'm sure African's might take offence to it in the same way as they might take offence to the British Empire - where the phrase likely originated - in general. <br><br>Imperialists continually used the "dark" metaphor to justify their occupation of the lands and their forcing of an "enlightening" culture.<br><br>As far as I can see, though, it's not overtly derogatory and both sides of the conflict could be forgiven for either believing it's an appropriate term or regarding it as offensive. It's a bit like how gay people may or may not take offence to the label "homosexual". These things aren't always explicitly taboo.
April 29, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST
by Leopold Scotch
Not "bubblegum pie".
April 29, 2008, 5:06 p.m. CST
April 29, 2008, 5:15 p.m. CST
April 29, 2008, 5:20 p.m. CST
"Homosexual" isn't to homosexuals as "Dark Continent" is to Africa. "Continent" is to Africa as "homosexual" is to homosexuals. I think a better analogy - following your arguement - would be that "Dark Continent" is to Africa as "Queer" is to homosexuals. That is, a term that can be both postive and negative.<br><br>I would disagree still though, with that point as I don't think anyone living in Africa would find anything positive in the term "Dark Continent" at all.
April 29, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST
i think dark continent is an outdated term, and wether or not it is rooted in racism, it just doesn't sound right..... but hey use it if you want
April 29, 2008, 5:36 p.m. CST
A 24 talkback with a Conchords reference thrown in? Nice.
April 29, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST
by Leopold Scotch
I know gay people who take offence to the term homosexual and believe that everyone should take offence to it. It stems from the origin of the phrase, as an attempt to scientifically label gay people and impose a deviant identity onto them. To give an idea of the "otherness" that the term suggested, consider that the term heterosexual didn't exist until generations after homosexual because, socially, there wasn't such a thing as a heterosexual person, just homosexuals and normal people.<br><br>You might think that "homosexual" refers simply to an act or a sexual preference or orientation. That's fine, because you might not be aware of the history of the term as used by Freud et al (who suggested that having gay tendencies was a psychological ailment). <br><br>The fact that you think homosexual is an appropriate term and others might not just serves to underline my point. Gay people might not take offence to your terminology because not everyone can be expected to know its history. People who use the term "Dark Continent" are almost certainly not using it in a derogatory manner. It's more likely that - as in the use of homosexual - they are not entirely privy to history of the phrase and what that history means to certain people.
April 29, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST
by Leopold Scotch
I wouldn't use the terms dark continent or homosexual at all. I'm just saying that they're not explicitly taboo and that an understanding of their histories were required before I could understand why I shouldn't use them. Not everyone will have the same knowledge, so they can't be expected to avoid the terms. It's different for terms which are obviously offensive, but then, as members of society, we have to learn not to use these either (or else we'd be stringing up kids who copy things without understanding them).
April 29, 2008, 6:01 p.m. CST
by Guy Who Got A Headache And Accidentally Saves The World
Why call Morgan Freeman a Knight? We all know they didn't have black people back when they had knights. Frankly, it's just ignorant on their part.
April 29, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST
by Monkey Butler
Fuck those racist bastards. <p> The Dark Continent is no more racist than calling the US or Australia 'The Colonies'
April 29, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST
Next you'll tell me that I can't burn a faggot in my fireplace.
April 29, 2008, 6:33 p.m. CST
While I havent missed 24 that much since it's absence, I'm definitely down for a catch-me-up before Season 7
April 29, 2008, 6:36 p.m. CST
very sad ending to someone who brought joy to so many
April 29, 2008, 6:44 p.m. CST
Have I rad so many posts <p> And learned so little about the story it is under. <p> Xiphos sums the attitude up well. Life is painful with clenched up ANYTHING. Relax people. Take intent into the situation for cripes sake. Nothing racist was intended in the use of term. ANY and all words can be used to insult based on intent. Be hard to communicate if we looked for insults in everything.
April 29, 2008, 7:03 p.m. CST
Anyone who takes offense at the word 'homosexual' is... well, not worth curtailing your vocabulary for. Or, to put it another way, they're kooks that should be ignored. It makes no more sense than if I claimed that the term 'master at arms' should be banned because of the connotation of implicit slavery.<p> At some point you have to stand firm and say that you can't constantly redefine and transmute vocabulary solely to coddle overly-sensitive attention whores.<p> And in what insane world does somebody complain about the obscure historical connotations of 'homosexual', yet prefer 'gay' as a synonym? Crazy.
April 29, 2008, 7:10 p.m. CST
Sambo. Cracker. Wagon-burner. It's not the words, you idiots. And it's not even the idiots who use them that should worry anybody. At least you know where they stand. It's those who use this PC smokescreen to distract you from real genocide in Africa and Asia. Offend everyone all the time... who cares. Just don't sit by and bitch about some dumb racist redneck when brutal regimes rape and kill each other for the heavy metals in your iPhone. Want to be "multicultural"? Then don't just play lip service to bullshit "dirty words". You probably get all warm and fuzzy putting a dollar (a WHOLE dollar!) in the Salvation Army pot. Then you buy new rims for your ride and GTA4. Hey, I'm a hypocrite too, so don't think I'm preaching. I'm just saying.... Dark Continent. Shit, look at your school system. That's racism that's much harder to fix than pointing at someone and screaming "racist". But, whatever keeps your mind off it.
April 29, 2008, 7:15 p.m. CST
Whoops, wrong Toto song.
April 29, 2008, 7:33 p.m. CST
I'm Assuming you caught this critical factoid from that e-mail I sent eariler, or you clicked on the frontpage story on CNN.com like I did. Anyway, we're getting the Jack Bauer in Africa story anyway, which is pretty cool. I really do hope they use that Africa Toto song at SOME POINT! Maybe open it with it.
April 29, 2008, 7:43 p.m. CST
And enlightens people about the terminology "Dark Continent". All in a single day, condensed down to a 2 hr TV movie. That would be about aproximate to what happens over the course of your average 24 season.
April 29, 2008, 8:35 p.m. CST
Please, Jack, kill all of these politically correct douchebags who whine at anything at all. If people called Ireland the Pale Continent, no one sure as shit would be bitching about it.<p></p> Notice how very few white comedians do any material about race, yet most black comedians can't go five seconds without mentioning race. That's because whites are scrutinized a million times worse than blacks when it comes to what you can and can't say. Don Imus is proof of that.
April 29, 2008, 9:32 p.m. CST
But it probably wont, but I think it should kind of work like the show - each act is in real time, and then when the show goes to ad-break, it skips ahead a few hours. So the show opens up at 6 AM . Stuff in Africa happens with Jack chasing Elephant poachers or whatever. Ad break. Back from ads - 8:45. Jack has been captured by elephant poachers. Jack throat-rips his way out using only his teeth. Ad break. 10:32 AM - Jack is at the door of the U.S. embassay. Etc. etc. I think that would keep the "real time" format but give them some freedom. I think just completely ditching it would make calling it "24" kind of pointless. Might as well just call it 'Jack's African Adventure' if they do that.
April 29, 2008, 10:02 p.m. CST
Bruce Wayne ain't even BLACK! >:(
April 29, 2008, 10:04 p.m. CST
He's not Black, either! >:O
April 29, 2008, 10:07 p.m. CST
Not only are shadows NOT White, but it portrays, yet again, the White Man bossing around a bunch of Black men and having them "play ball" for the pleasure of rich, white people!!! >:O
April 29, 2008, 10:08 p.m. CST
You think the reason many black comedian's mention race issue's in their act is because maybe...just maybe...perhaps..they're dealing with their life experiences? Y'know, "write what you know". Y'think? But hey, we should all lament Imus' inability to call female basketball players nappy headed hoes...minus the white females on the team of course.
April 29, 2008, 10:10 p.m. CST
I guess he took a page from Dave Chappelle and went to the motherland to clear his head.
April 29, 2008, 10:12 p.m. CST
Haven't they ever heard of a comb??? Sheesh...
April 29, 2008, 10:17 p.m. CST
by Anakin Whoopass
This fall on Weazel
April 29, 2008, 11:59 p.m. CST
Well, race isn't an issue just to blacks, and it isn't like they are forced to write and talk about it. Good comedians should be able to make ANYTHING funny, not just "what they know". Unless someone MAKES it happen, I seriously doubt the entire life of a black person revolves around their race...unless again they constantly make it an issue.
April 30, 2008, 12:45 a.m. CST
by Lenny Nero
...I can understand how "homosexual" can be considered offensive, but only in how you say it. I rarely refer to a straight person as "heterosexual" but "straight," and prefer to use "gay" instead of "homosexual." "Homosexual" does have sort of a cold sound to it, but as aforementioned, it's how one says it. Sort of like it's not always okay to call someone of the Jewish faith a "Jew." It just rolls off the tongue with a hint of venom for some people, not for others.
April 30, 2008, 1:13 a.m. CST
Sorry, but all comedians, all good ones who have made a long standing career, speak from their life experiences. That's just a fact. Here's an idea. You may not see the white comedians as speaking specifically from their life experiences because of the commonality that exists between you and them. Being a minority means race IS an issue, period. Being black means you are facing the issue of race one way or another every single day. A black person doesn't have the luxury of not dealing with race, so our life experiences revolve around that. I've met white people where i was the first black person they have ever had a real conversation with. Many white people's only perception of a black person is from television, music, and movies. A black person could never say that. Believe me, i don't have to make race an issue, it says "hi" to me everyday. Take a good look at the best comedians and you'll find they are all troubled, tormented, or angry on some level, which is also why a great deal of them are also great actors. Many a comedian thrive on adversity. Connect the dots.
April 30, 2008, 1:19 a.m. CST
>ANY and all words can be used to >insult based on intent. Okay, he didn't intend to offend me. Bet you won't hear that particular shorthand for Africa again though. And for the record, I root for Tarzan to lose and for Tara to burn to the fucking ground.
April 30, 2008, 2:25 a.m. CST
BROWN = SUSPECT<p> He'll overload - he can't torture all of them. Oh, and GTA 4 references are the win.
April 30, 2008, 2:43 a.m. CST
Hope Bauer finds them, tortures them and gets rid of the bodies somewhere in the story line.
April 30, 2008, 3:29 a.m. CST
by Rev. Slappy
April 30, 2008, 3:50 a.m. CST
Jack will run into his long lost cousin Jack Umphoo Phoo, Mmeber of ATU.
April 30, 2008, 4:20 a.m. CST
Wayne Palmer eats shit.
April 30, 2008, 4:28 a.m. CST
I am sorry to say, is not what it was.
April 30, 2008, 5:34 a.m. CST
April 30, 2008, 5:57 a.m. CST
...frightened of this thing that he's become. That is all.
April 30, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST
to get a soul!
April 30, 2008, 8:25 a.m. CST
That was well said. I would add, that white comedians DO talk about their race and ethnicity. If you have ever seen a Jewish comic, then you KNOW you have seen a Jewish comic, because their religion and ethnic background is the core of their act. <p> There is nothing wrong with exploring what you know best, because commonality can be experienced even when the gulf seems vast, as long as the audience is open to recieving it.
April 30, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST
by Nico Toscani
That woman constantly shouting Berooooozzzz!!! was the high point of the entire series. Well, that and the corrupt CTU agent of the season plotlines.
April 30, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST
i thought id stir it up a bit more
April 30, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST
by otm shank
Now Jack Bauer goes to Africa. The circle is complete.
April 30, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST
by Pops Freshemeyer
"It's back...the ground-breaking, formulaic cliff-hanger, 72. Can Judd Parker save the world from terrorists by staying up for three days and torturing every person of color he can find?"
April 30, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST
The word "homosexual" was not coined by Freud and really has nothing to do with his views on homosexuality aside from his use of it as a noun. The word was invented when Freud was only 13 years old by someone who was arguing against an anti-sodomy law. To say the word has derogatory connotations because Freud or other like-minded individuals used it is like saying the word "Jew" is bad because Hitler used it.<br><br>So when you decide to posture pseudo-intellectually and to lecture someone on their purported lack of historic knowledge have the courtesy to do a quick Wikipedia check. It's where all the pseudo-intellectuals gather.
April 30, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST
Thats a good fucking song when your drunk ,and or high singing karaoke, Toto..... man,some things are just funny regardless ,like reading where people are quoting lyrics to a Toto song in talkback.Priceless.
April 30, 2008, 4:48 p.m. CST
by Count Screwface
Africa is called "The Dark Continent." .. go get educated Before the 19th Century, there was little known of the area. No one is a fracking racist. Anyone who said that is a complete imbecile and owes the OP an apology.
April 30, 2008, 5:26 p.m. CST
by Leopold Scotch
Man, I'm not lecturing anyone. If you feel threatened or patronised or pissed off by my "pseudo-intellectual" arguments that's your problem. <br><br>Nor did I even mention who coined the phrase. I told you that I know people who argue against its use and I explained why they do so. I have no reason to make something like that up. It's not up to me to determine what certain minorities (or individuals) find offensive. Nor is it up to you.<br><br>Apply the logic you're using against me to your own initial arguments and you might see the point I was trying to make. Some people don't think "homosexual" is taboo. Fine. Some don't think "dark continent" is taboo. For you, this isn't fine, but you're happy to argue that it's ok to use the former. <br><br>And, by your logic, just because Imperialists called Africa the dark continent... blah blah blah... Hitler... blah blah blah... Jews.<br><br>And, finally, just to use your Wikipedia argument back on you: "Dark Continent: "As little was known about the continent's interior geography, map-makers would often leave this region dark." Yeah, ban this sick filth for sure...<br><br> This is just absurd now, anyway. It's friggin 24 talkback.
April 30, 2008, 6:36 p.m. CST
by Pops Freshemeyer
Jack Bauer is going to Africa so they can extract a witch doctor for his jungle voodoo skills to resurrect David Palmer. Awesome.
April 30, 2008, 11:23 p.m. CST
by Big Dumb Ape
If you laughably think that calling Africa "The Dark Continent" is a sign of overt racism -- as opposed to recognizing that the phrase has a historical context that actually refers to freakin' GEOGRAPHY -- then you can just kiss my ass. No, wait...first go back to school and get an EDUCATION, and then feel free to come back and kiss my ass. And the butt of anyone else here who just happens to have an actual functioning brain.<p>Seriously, this is either outright stupidity or (even worse) it's political correctness once again rearing its ugly head over a word, a phrase, an image or whatever else that someone wants to demonize (relative to its REAL context) all because boo-fucking-hoo it hurts their feelings. Worse, because someone MISTAKENLY thinks the word, the phrase, the image or whatever else you want to pick is somehow a mean-spirited insult that was specifically directed at them.<P>For crying out loud, this reminds of me the immeidate post-9/11 period where some people were ridiculous enough to actually advocate that Hollywood should now go in and take OUT the World Trade Center Towers from films...I mean literally go in and digitally remove them even from old films...because seeing the Towers would be too emotionally hard. So we should just wipe them from memory completely so that we never took the risk of upsetting anyone, even if it was only one person.<p>And you know what I say to that, not only as a born and bred New Yorker but also as an average, politically moderate, college educated person? FUCK YOU. History is HISTORY and some aspects of it are nice and clean...and yes, some are quite messy. But I swear political correctness is one of the things I MOST fucking hate in the entire world since it seeks to retroactively rewrite and remove things from history, which last I checked is what EDUCATED and THINKING people want to look back upon and learn from.<p>Africa is the Dark Continent. The phrase has a historical context. "Historical" as in HISTORY...as in the phrase has looooooong been out there for a reason. Grow up, learn a thing or two, and fucking learn to deal with it.
April 30, 2008, 11:25 p.m. CST
Sick of your crap.
April 30, 2008, 11:55 p.m. CST
They tell me they are changing the name to the Florida theme park from The Dark Continent to Bauerland.
April 30, 2008, 11:56 p.m. CST
May 1, 2008, midnight CST
240 (minutes). Jack will be going to Africa to find the witch doctors who, through their mystical powers, have stolen the President's penis.... What?? Doesn't anyone read apaper any more????
May 1, 2008, 12:08 a.m. CST
It reminds me too much of the N word and frankly I am offended. And for that matter Nigeria...get on with changing it you offensive people!!!
May 1, 2008, 3:48 a.m. CST
by mr. whoa
,...that movie with Louis Gossett Jr called The River Niger? Should I feel bad that I initially snickered at that? Should I feel bad for saying "snickered" because, when spolen drunken slur, it sounds derogatory?
May 1, 2008, 3:49 a.m. CST
by mr. whoa
May 1, 2008, 11:37 p.m. CST
And sets up the next season, which is essentially a variation on the famous W.W. Jacob story "The Monkey's Paw." Be careful what you wish for, Jack, when bringing folks back from the dead. Be very careful.
May 2, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST
by The Gipper
"Busch Gardens: The Dark Continent" in Tampa, FL is now called "Busch Gardens: Africa." "Busch Gardens: The Old Country" in Williamsburg, VA is now called "Busch Gardens: Europe." No doubt dumbfucks like those on this talkback who are historically illiterate took offense to things they didn't know or else were just confused. Pick up a history book, stop doing drugs and get back to school you dipshits!!!