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Two STAR WARS: THE CLONE WARS Images Are Now Online!!
Merrick here...
As we already know, there's an animated STAR WARS movie releasing in theaters this Summer. It's all CG, and portends the animated series that'll unveil on Cartoon Network this Fall (SITE HERE). A new trailer for this project escaped onto YouTube a few weeks back & was quickly abolished by Lucasfilms.
Can't say I'm knocked out by how this looks. I loved what Tartakovsky did with his microseries a few years back, but...this isn't Tartakovsky. This project looks ugly, although the CG Anakin will almost certainly give us a better performance than Hayden Christensen. My hunch is we'll miss Gennedy, but we'll see...
Anyway, Empire Online has two exclusive images from the movie. Character shots. You can...
SEE THEM HERE!!!
SEE THEM HERE!!!
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Woooo!!!
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Lucas sold us all out for shares in Toys R Us.
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This looks absolutely awful. I wish George L. would just stop this crap. It's over.
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Like the world needs another bitter and angry Star Wars hater. Geek, please.
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And those are some fucking ugly pictures.
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Looks nice to me! I aint seen it moving but it has a grainy marionette look which is cool.
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The final three trilogy? Are something totally different?
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How come Empire magazine is so cool? I used to read it all the time when I lived in Britain. They always got awesome covers. We get stuck with crap like EW. I wish I had $10 to buy it all the time.
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But i´m not very interested in these new Clone Wars.
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...is made of wood, now??? Christ, they had better CG animation 15 years ago on Reboot.
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but the action sequences glimpsed in the trailer look like a lot of fun. I'm looking forward to this.
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Empire is good for pics as they suck up so much to film companies. It's a great magazine to look at but impossible to read without vomiting.
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I'll wait and see.
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Apr 21, 2008 9:28:18 AM CDT
Oh jeeze, just release this straigh to DVD or the internet alrea
by mike_d
boooooooooooooo.
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i was in denial for a long time, but its painful to watch ep1-2-3. really painful. I watched star wars and empire and jedi again recently..great fucking films..even jedi. they had depth and a realism to them. its hard to get through te new ones without knowing just how much of a wasted opportunity they are and how much george lucas is not the great filmmaker we once thought he was. bottom line: he's a shitty artist. and these clone war things look pretty weak. sorry..i still need to vent. star wars was something near and dear to me and its so fucking tainted now. sad.
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I've got a bad feeling about this.
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Not Gennedy. :)
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yeah yeah yeah im still venting, but ep 4-5-6 are #11,8,106 respectively...(or something like that)....1-2-3 aren't even on the radar. it's such a spectacular fall off! i cant think of anything that comes close to such a drop in quality as the star wars films. to go from 3 of the greatest movies ever to 3 of the most embarassing. the only thing i can compare it to is perhaps godfather 3...but even that, with pacino forgetting who michael corleone is and playing him like another loud pacino character, is a way better film. ok im done...maybe. still pissed off.
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..those pics are fuggin' ugly
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The only way I'll ever see this or any other new Star Wars product is if they're on "Spike" at 2am and I'm good and drunk. I forced myself to watch parts of 1-3 as they ran for free recently and they only get worse with time. George destroyed any chance of these movies being good when he forced the the movies to all take place individually over a few days like 4-6 did. It worked with 4-6 but 1-3 were telling a much bigger story. We should have been able to see Anakin go from a kid to an adult in 1. 2 should have been the Clone Wars and 3, we should have finally been able to see a young Vader at the height of his powers stalking and killing Jedi's...but all we got was NOOOOOOOOO. Please George, let us keep some good memories and you keep some dignity.
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I wish they would move on and tell something else. Are they going to detail the exact minute of each persons lives? Are we gonna see how many times Yoda takes a shit? For god's sakes move on.
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it's a space station.
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from looking at that busted tees ad. Keep selling toys Lucasfilm - while the economy is going in the toilet fanboy idiots are making sure they are getting two of each figure.
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or Team America. Does this movie include a dirty puppet scene?
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Thats the first thing I literally said when I looked at it a few seconds ago. What's this Jimmy Neutron shit?
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... to see fanboys still getting so hot under the collar over those silly business. As the father of a 5-yr-old who's crazy about all things STAR WARS, I find my own ire over the new trilogy diminishing all the time, replaced by shared enthusiasm for the myth and lore of an epic saga about beasties and space battles. STAR WARS is still for children, and seeing it through my child's eyes has healed all the wounds. What the hell, guys -- it's sappy space melodrama. It's not the end of the world. Save the histrionics for our fat, evil government, not a bunch of fat, greedy moviemakers.
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i have to completely differ. i thought the clone wars cartoon a few years back look terrible. this looks great, and i hope with more capable writers than mr. lucas we get a great ride.
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I can't wait to see it in the theatres and then watch the series on TV. I loved the original SW flicks and the last 3 were...okay, not nearly as good as the originals but still, I enjoyed them. This should be fun.
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The possibilities for celebrity guest-star bobble heads are enormous!
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...another Tartakovsky series. His Clone Wars series was the Star Wars I remember as a kid, where the Jedi were totally badass and were, basically, superheroes. Is that how they were portrayed in the original trilogy? Not really, but that's how I _remember_ them, and watching his Clone Wars series evoked a feeling of amazement that the prequel trilogy never came close to achieving.
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I am going to boycott this 2.0 version of the Clone Wars. Lucas cant even admit Genndy's version was the highlight of the prequels and is intent in destroying that vision with his fifty hr CGI cumshot of toy adverts. No dont encourage him!!
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*shrug*
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Apr 21, 2008 10:55:36 AM CDT
Merrick, who can't even spell Genndy, is criticizing Christensen
by atticus finch
Priceless.
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Apr 21, 2008 10:56:26 AM CDT
I have LOW expectations...I just want my 3-year-old boy to enjoy
by tylerzero
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So the prequels were "unwatchable" yet you "forced yourself to watch them on Spike". I've heard this a lot lately and it's complete bullshit. I don't re-watch movies I think are bullshit or "unwatchable"--even ironically. Admit it fanboys, you like the prequels!
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Annie frees Jabba's son, aquires a racing pod in a game of chance, races it against Sebulba's son, wins, gets serious head from Bib Fortuna's daughter, etc.... We're supposed to recycle nowadays, but not in the movies!!!
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this could look like shit...I can see them getting away with it on a tv screen, but I just cannot see this cg-style playing out well in a theatrical release
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and I'm guessing it will be rather shite-y.
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no we don't...we loved star wars...and because of that we keep giving them another chance..and another..and another..and another...sigh. thet say insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different outcome....yup.
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The love for Genndy's Clone Wars has always been pretty puzzling to me. Those little Clone Wars stories are some of the most uninteresting little things I have seen, with one exception- The fight on Yavin IV between Skywalker and the Sith witch was the closest thing to feeling like an original Star Wars story. But all the battles through that stupid Athens city and on the boring fields were as dull as can be, with some new and really stupid designs. Genndy's art style is so tired and empty, and I don't understand why people get excited about a cartoon style that doesn't require that the artists know how to draw well. Please recognize that Genndy does not seem to know how to draw, Clone Wars certainly does not demonstrate any skill on his part. I admit that the style of these new "The Clone Wars" could be better, but I think they are far more interesting to look at than anything Genndy has ever made. I'm seriously you guys, this is one of those "The emperor has no clothes" kind of deals. Stop admiring Genndy's lack of talent. Everyone was so desperate for an animation style that wasn't Disney, that nowadays the only alternative that anyone could seem to come up with is to have a style that involved no drawing ability at all. Get over that- the style sucks. At least this computer animated adaptation has some level of depth. It sure is not ugly.
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GL needs to stay the fuck away from animation forever. The Tartokovsky series wasn't much better than this. God how I despise his animation style. I think Georgie just produced his next box office bomb.
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Wait until opening day, locate the Clone Wars ticket holders line and then "lose control" of your vehicle.
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I bet this will have a whole bunch o' droids we don't know shooting at a whole bunch o' clones we don't know. Like, randomly. And in a field. It's all Sauron's fault. Help us, John Connor.
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Is it going to be available on PS2? What's that? A theatrical film? Dude...
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the first Star Wars box office flop. Seems like too much of a cynical cash-in.
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Of course it CAN be done but it's just not happening in those images. Shit like this will only poison the well for projects trying to pitch decent non-photorealistic CG, which we really fucking need at this point.
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When will you understand that for star wars' hard core fans, it doesn't matter any more if it sucks or not... It's just plain star wars and we love it. End of the discussion.
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Are Star Wars fans also the same people who throw hate upon hate on Transformers! Cuz I'm betting they are. Episodes 1-3 were effin horrible and have tainted my childhood Star Wars memories. Bottom line, I'm calling Bull Shit on fans who say they dont care if its good ro not cuz its still Star Wars
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YES...the prequels sucked. If you think they didn't, you're deluding yourself. They were just bad movies not in the same spirit, design, or class as the originals....BUT the Clone Wars Cartoon was fucking classic. this doesn't look so much. BUT, it's Star Wars. I owe going to see it to my 5 year old self.
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is a greedy untalented bastard squeezing the last bit of blood from the rock. He doesnt give a shit about his product so why should we. Maybe he should spend some of his gazzilions on getting a neck.
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Star Wars is legion. It's going to continue on for years to come and out last better movies sort of like it has Annie Hall. You can bitch all you want but you might grow up one day, and get a handle on your life. Whateverthecase... you are just another whiney ass geek that does not understand his/her place in the order of things. Know your roll.
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Star Wars the movies are a Legion? Or fans of the movies are a Legion? In that case why would you want to be part of a Legion of people who thought episodes 1-3 were good? They were BAD movies in every sense, bad acting, bad dialogue, sorry ass plot. Great I waited 20 years to find out Anakin became Darth Vader because he was pussy whipped! Great I'm gonna start my own legion of followers who worship "Stop Or My Mom Will Shoot". Movies are in the same league.
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I never thought the day would come when I'd be sick of Star Wars (or at least, what passes for SW these days). I'll always be a fan of the originals -the unaltered ORIGINAL fucking trilogy. I dont entirely despise the new trilogy, theres a few nuggets in there that are fun and cool, but its still pretty much awful. Anyway, I'm SO FUCKING SICK of any and everything Clone Wars. Give it up already George, the ship sailed a long time ago. The only thing good CW-wise was Gendy's shorts. They were amazing, and the best bit of SW to be out post originals. Sad but true. Anyway, this new thing looks bad. The designs do nothing for me, and apparently they do nothing for everybody else. And whoever said theyre 'ugly' was right on the mark. I dont see SW ever going away, but this might be the entry that gets people to go 'ok give it up already'. Focus on a really mind blowing next gen video game instead. Or, and not that I think you should, but if youre going to do more SW stuff, do something N E W already. Pick another period on the timeline. The CW shit is played out.
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THis is soooo cool. More Star Wars the merrier!
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and thanks for the whopping two pictures from another magazine dude. Real top story material. I hate the style on this, but I love Star Wars, prequels with all the shitty parts, and all. I am a Star Wars fan, and because of that, I will give this a chance. But gee wiz, something new would be swell. Like something still Star Wars but having NOTHING to do with George Lucas. Maybe I'm asking too much? Every baby outgrows its parent. Thanks Lucas, I love your originals, but let's get some fresh blood in here that still likes to know what a fan thinks and is willing to work with REAL things as opposed to pixels. I'm gonna go outside now.
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this looks so bad there finally may be something in Star Wars worse than 1-3.
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is no match for my Emperor Guillotine! Stupid earthlings. Surrender now! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Muah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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Isn't George Lucas long overdue for a heart attack?
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imagined to ever say this, but now I think it's time: fuck this new Star Wars crap.:-(
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Granted, there were a few lovely character bits, but for the most part, it played like Star Wars for the X-Box generation. The wall-to-wall action was just numbing. I much prefer TPM and ROTS.
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Okay, we've rebooted Batman, we've rebooted James Bond, why the hell not do Star Wars? SW is contemporary mythology, and myths were changed/altered all the damn time (just ask the Romans). So, as soon as Lucas kicks the bucket, how many years before a true SW fan can redo the prequels? That's what I wanna know.
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Seriously. Episodes I-III? Never happened. Do over.
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Shit is WIZZZEAK! I know Lucas gotta eat, but really...can't you just sell some more crappy action figures? This shit looks plain TERRIBLE, by any and all standards. Take a steaming pile of shit, throw a lightsaber in it and call it a day; is that the formula now George? How about that Jim Jam cereal?
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You can all eat dick.
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There's a shock.
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Really liked/agreed with your comments on the GIJoe movie. It looks like Larry Hama really has little or no say in this new movie.
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I'm curious: Do your kids have a preference -- do they prefer the OT over the Prequels, or the other way around? Or do they seem to not have a preference?And what about the other major franchises that have shaped their generation (e.g. Lord of the Rings, Harry Potter, Spider-Man, Pirates Caribbean)? Do they love any of these franchises more than SW?
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The kids, influenced by their parents to some degree, largely prefer the OT. My lil' brother hates the new ones, but me repeatedly calling the Prequels the Gay-quels and other not-so-witty things probably has a little to do with it.
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Like religion and politics, little kids tend to like/dislike the same things that their parents do. They do this because they're seeking approval of their parent. (But as they enter teenage-hood, they do this miraculous thing called rebelling.) I do think that little kids (based on my kid relatives and friends and colleagues' tykes) do like Star Wars -- but it's nowhere near as obsessive as what it meant to our generation (Gen-Xers). Little kids have so many movie and other media to choose from.That said, I've observed that many little kids appear to dig the Lord of the Rings movies, which I find surprising, followed by Spider-Man. (Harry Potter appeals more to the early teen set right now, as they grew up on the books, but they, like everybody else, appear to be getting tired of the movie series.) The little kids do like Star Wars, but I've noticed it's Return of the Jedi that they seem to like the most, followed by perhaps Episode III.
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i cant wait to find out!
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Look, Lucas didn't rape my childhood or any of that crap and it's his BBQ and he can cook what he wants,but more Clone Wars??!! Why not the Thrawn Series or something after Anakin puts on the Johnny Cash wardrobe?
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And the Clone Wars area is one of my favorites. Lot of likeable EU material from it. Although I don't see how they can make a hundred episodes with new stuff when so much else has been made about the clone wars...
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then there will be lots of this on the TV for the next 30 years. Is that what you want? Seriously? Please do not encourage Lucas. do not pay money to see this 90 min CGI advert at the cinema. Have a bit of dignity.
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legion can be an adjective as well. just sayin...
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Apr 21, 2008 3:44:51 PM CDT
I would be totally cool with this if it wasnt at the cinema.
by desmondo
If this was just some hour long pilot to a 3D TV series on Cartoon Network - looks cool enough, might be worth a watch.
But why are they putting this at the cinema? It doesn't have a cinematic budget clearly. I doubt it will even get that much marketing. Someone just wants to say "There's a new star wars film at the cinema" and watch the money roll in. I don't know who in the general public would want to see this. As far as the trailer was concerned it looks like little dialogue and much droid blasting. But somehow it will probably top the box office.... -
Apr 21, 2008 3:47:21 PM CDT
I loved the prequels and even I think this looks shitty
by bass bastardson
Seriously, WAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY shitty. Like a video game cut scene from 8 years ago, shitty. It might not play sso bad on TV as a weekly series, but it falls so short for a theatrical feature. There's a reason that The Ewoks cartoon never hit theaters.
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Seriously. I'm not kidding. This stuff looks like it could be "acted" in real time with mo-cap feeding input into the latest engine. Any half decent graphics card on the market today could push out polys like this without dropping a frame.
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Haterz gotta hate, but I think this looks great. I'd also like to see an OT era cgi show, like, the Adventures of Han and Chewie or somethin'...
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even though when I was a kid I thought it delivered the goods. These days I can see in it what we dislike about the prequels.
Now I have six year nephew who until recently wanted to be a Jedi when he grows up, thanks to the prequels. Not only does this not offend me, but I have to admit our light saber battles have opened my eyes to the fact that the prequels are in fact still Star Wars, even if they aren't satisfying to the older Jed Heads. There are a ton of six year olds out there who will dig seeing this in the theater. If you watch this with one of them it should help ease the pain. -
Is any one else completely, pukingly sick of the episode II-III droid and ship designs? Watching those stupid ball droids roll, unfold and fire for the 900th time as if they think they're cool and it's still 2002 has gotten annoying as hell. R2-D2 still looks silly as fuck riding in the jedi Starfighter as well. He was designed to fit with the X-wing and just looks like a pimple on the ass of any other vehicle
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Maybe if they do it in limited release shortly before its television premier. Then it seems less like a cash grab and more of a treat to the fans.
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Nut-busting hilarity there. Too true. The vehicle designs for the prequels are senior-year-@-RISD shite and should have never made it out of the ideation phase. Nothing from the prequels fit into anything that would come "after." Remember back when the bad guys were basically just Nazis in space? Hell, there weren't any aliens conscripted into Republic/Rebel forces in ANH and ESB. Made it much easier to empathize with the action, unlike when we were forced to watch a completely useless battle between Gungans and Droids. Everything was just fukt.
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This is supposed to be a geek movie site and we get LUCASFILMS? Whatever. Anyway, you will find no bigger star wars fan that I, but this thing looks... not so good. The thing about Star Wars that was awesome was that it is set in a "real world". The characters look cartoony. Big heads, small, spindly bodies. Not a fan of the design. Oh well.
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That this couldn't have been a hybrid of Squaresoft/PIXAR/ILM/WETA. Can you imagine if Squaresoft would've designed the characters? They would've looked more realistic than these at least. If PIXAR would've designed the landscapes and the environments? How realistic looking would that have been. ILM should just stick to the vehicle and ship designs, because everything else looks fake, but at least those look like they are right out of the movies, same as the clone troopers, at least they look somewhat real. And if they would've let WETA design the creatures and some of the aliens, you wouldn't be able to tell that it is a cartoon. "sigh" what could've been, but I guess we'll never know.
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which it looks to be modeled after, then it's definitely going to be better than the prequel movies.
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When I first saw the art as a still, I wasn't too wowed. But my mind was completely changed once I saw the characters in motion. Between that and Feloni's work on Avatar, I have a high level of confidence in this project.
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i fucking lawled irl. oh and at "lose control" of your vehicle on the clonewars ticket line of people. i lawled hard.
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I don't know what look they're going for but what they achieved was a PS3 game look. And not a cut scene, a play scene. I know they can't do the Beowulf thing because they'd have to bring back the actors but CGI can look better than that.
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...ah, yes! It's missing the two 11-year-old boys sitting in front of the screen with XBox controllers in their hands. That would make it complete.I don't specifically wish ill upon this project, but I've been there on day 1 for every Star Wars movie (even through the prequels), and I finally have no interest at all in seeing something Star Wars, in theaters or on TV. Wake me when the live-action TV show comes around--maybe that'll do it. Maybe.
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for SW will probably come with the live action TV series. Hopefully. I'm curious to see how that comes out esp. if it focuses on the bounty hunters, and what was going on between III and IV. I find that anything closer in storyline to Ep. IV is more intriguing. I mean, I read the James Luceno novel "The Rise of Darth Vader" and I thought the stuff in there about Tarkin, the Wookiees, Alderaan, Obi-Wan on Tatooine and Darth Vader hunting Jedi was what we were going to see in the prequels. That was the stuff I was looking for in terms of a "prequel". As for this, I thought the trailer made it look better than I thought, but I too am wary of Jabba's son and a new padawan for Anakin etc. I mean, that is more of a sign of Lucas and his ideas getting old or relying on the naivete of the kiddie audience. I look at the prequels and wonder how differently GL would've written them during the '70s/'80s, but you all know GL hates writing.
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I just cannot get excited for this movie. I had no interest in the Cartoon Network SW:CW series and this feature film just looks like something I'd end up renting or waiting for it to hit cable if I ever decided to watch it.
I have to agree with those of us already stating that if another film series were to be made for the franchise, I'd like to see the 3rd and final trilogy be made. Also, have Lucas not be the director or at least work a little harder on the scripts as I really just didn't get as drawn in by the prequels as I did by the original trilogy.
Honestly, has anything I just said not been said before a hundred times or more by just about every SW fan out there? Don't you think that means something?
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Please, George...just stop!
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What kind of roll should Hechtal know? A dinner roll? A drum roll? When Hechtal grows up and gets a handle on his life, maybe he'll do you a favor and buy you a dictionary so you won't sound like a total idiot.
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...had he done it before Genndy outdid everything he'd done on film up to that point with his sweet toons. Now it is just also-ran Lucas just trying to be clever and closing the barn door after the horse has moved to Phoenix and gotten a job. It was bad enough the way he tried to incorporate Grevious and did such a shit job of it in the movies proving that Tartakovsky does Star Wars better than he can, and also proving my assertation from the beginning about what a one-shot wonder Lucas is. American Graphitti? Fine. AG 2? shit. Indiana Jones 1? Excellent. IJ 2? shit. Star Wars 1? Great. Star Wars 3? shit.
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Genndy did this better Whether you like the art style or not you must admit it was a million times more compelling then anything in the prequels. What he did with Grevious, Shakti, And Mace Windu, was amazing. And yes Lucas can not write worth shit look at AOTC or ROTS as evidence that what ever writing ability he had is completly shot to shit.
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IS because they have to make a TV series from it. To make a show look like a pixar movie every week would bankrupt even George Lucas...
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I naturally meant A New Hope. I still maintain he had no long term plan like he continues to say, even though you look at that ridiculous dismissal of Boba Fett in Jedi and then tell me he had all that prequel Jango in mind. What an effing liar.
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The man who once revolutionized cinematic spectacle and escapism is now happy to pitch a charmless two hour, irony-free version of the opening scene of Being John Malkovic at us.
We will not be moved, George: We want the live action theatrical episodes of 7, 8 and 9, directed by a modern-day equivalent of Kirshner (ie a non-yes man, someone who will stop the rotation of the Earth if need be to ensure the story and scenes fucking WORK... and we don't mean work for YOU, Lucas, but for the movie going public. But of course, we're NOT who you care about anymore, are we? The only people who've had your attention for the last twenty years are the millions of brats in the Hasbro sections of the world's Woolworths, who'll scream and scream until they're sick at their parents for a length of astonishingly-priced plastic telescopic picnic cups, which in the fertile imagination of these Nickelodeon-induced ADD sufferers becomes an indesctructible sword. -
But for a theatrical release it just looks bad.
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Star Wars died with the Ewoks.
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Apr 22, 2008 10:56:54 AM CDT
I fell in love with CW's Shaak Ti... she was cute as a button.
by chewtoy
Plus she kicked all kinds of ass before she went down. This show has a somewhat similar stylized look, but it does seem to be missing the charm of the previous cartoon's designs. I'll check it out, but probably not in theaters.
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it does look hideous. It's like a step back for Lucasfilm and computer generated imagery.
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http://tinyurl.com/59pfmk Come on, Lucasfilm. The look of this new Clone Wars is utterly terrible and far below you.
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I got better looking characters on my XBox (original flavor). Yeah, it's a "style choice", but when Obi Wan's beard looks like it's carved from wood...
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At least that's what I think I read on a headline somewhere. It makes more sense looking at them and seeing it as a 21st century answer to Supermarionation or whatever it was called. Also looks like if you liked the movie STRINGS you'll be more open to this thing. It's going to be an acquired taste though, I'm sure. Honestly, I thought even Genndy's renderings took getting used to and I don't hate his work (yes he can draw, art is not defined as just what YOU like, while your opinion of a given style is all about taste and not a universal truth). My biggest complaint is that the screenshots look to me like they came out of a game. I am not a gamer, so that is somewhat off-putting to me. Also, it reminds me of the TV show Skyland, which has some great artwork in it but truly horribly voice work and character animation (all mocap from what I can see). I'm expecting something about on par with that, which means I'll keep an eye on it for the visuals but won't cry if it only lasts 1 season. I'll be happy if it's better than that though.
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"looks ugly", "better performance than Hayden Christensen", "My hunch is we'll miss Gennedy"...
I see you've turned into the atypical SW fan who bemoans anything new and can't wait to pay out on the current stuff.
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I'm going to watch episodes 1 through 6 in order next weekend. I'm going to love every minute of it. And you can all eat dick.
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write a paper on Reinaldo Arenas, watch some noir movies (Le Samourai, here I come!) and...(GASP) probably have sex with my girlfriend.
There will be no "dick eating," thanks.
Woot woot. Go me.
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why do all those ships look so more curvy and organic than the boxy-hardedged ships of the OT? things generally get more curvy and smooth not the opposite, like cars in our age for example. and that argument that the empire has caused everything to be worn down is moot because even the empire's ships don't look as flashy as the republic proto tiefighter types in the prequels. technically they sould be flying the same ships since 20 years is a blip on the radar of a galaxy which easily has thousands of years of history.
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"They all blew up. Then they had to build new ones. Yeah, that's how I'll explain it. Was I too bitter with the fans in my Entertainment Weekly interview? I practically castrated Spielberg for having more integrity in his work, thus making myself look like a giant douche. Oh well, my new cartoon movie I hired people to make will finally give me enough money for that neck waddle surgery!"- actual quote from George Lucas' brain
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