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What’s Guillermo Del Toro’s Mysterious New Project?!
Hey, everyone. “Moriarty” here.
Innnnnnteresting.
Earlier today, we got an e-mail from Mike, the guy who runs TheOneRing, and I assume he was all excited because he thought he was about to get some big-ass HOBBIT news to run. He said as much in this e-mail he sent out:
“The man himself, Guillermo del Toro, who may or may not be directing ‘The Hobbit’, has posted a very curious comment on our own message boards. Del Toro has mentioned recently at a New York convention that an announcement is imminent... decipher what you will from his post!”
Well, it appears he did make an announcement... only it wasn’t the one that TheOneRing was expecting.
Instead, it looks like he’s aiming at making a small film, one of his personal movie about childhood, and the description he offered up is intriguing.
According to Film Buff Online, Guillermo described it like so:
“But I’m starting to sketch one more, perhaps final, little movie about childhood and horror. It’s called Saturn And The End Of Days. It’s about a kid named Saturn watching the Rapture and the Apocalypse while on the way back and forth from the grocery store. It’s like, what would happen if the Apocalypse was viewed by you [while] doing errands. You go back and forth and nothing big happens except the entire world is being sucked into a vortex of fire.”
So SATURN AND THE END OF DAYS, eh? Count me in, man. Sounds awesome.
Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles
Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles
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I'll be there.
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I thought the "At the mountains of madness" was on the to do list for Guillermo. He has commented before that pre-prod is happening and that he has seen sculptures of some of the "old ones". So, what gives big man?
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And after that, hopefully we'll get to see his Tarzan! And Hellboy 3! And Cthulhu! Wooooo!
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But please, Gordo, give us At the mountains of madness!
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sounds cool.
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Goddammit I want AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS!!!!
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AFTER The Hobbit films in my opinion. But he did say he wants to squeeze something in during the pre-production of The Hobbit films. So, expect a film like ATMOM and then The Hobbit and then Saturn and the End of Days, in that order.
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He hasn't been able to get funding for ATMOM and other things e wants to do. That said, if the Hobbit films go ahead, studios'll be throwing money at him afterwards so there's hope.
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Pan's Labyrinth was one of the best films of the 2000s. Devil's Backbone is superb. Cronos is excellent. Heck, even his produced-only Orphanage was darn effective if a bit obvious. But Hellboy was fun but not stunning. Mimic (yes i know there was a ton of interference) was rubbish. Blade 2 was the best of the trilogy but still solid fun at best. His US films never match the artistry, beauty and brilliance of his smaller Spanish films. This sounds intriguing as always. Would much rather see this than The Hobbit which i so never need to see.
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...and nothing big happens except the entire world is being sucked into a vortex of fire.”
Sounds like an average day at my job.
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Apr 21, 2008 6:32:10 AM CDT
Oh, and the riddle DEFINITELY referred to The Hobbit, not this.
by raw_bean
"Half familiar, half unknown.
A thing it is, ¨It almost is-¨
This thing all things devours:
Birds, beasts, trees, flowers;
Gnaws iron, bites steel;
Grinds hard stones to meal;
Slays king, ruins town,
And beats high mountain down.
The day of the moon will be
when all is revealed to thee
Questions will cease
Answers will please
We´ll learn of the Shire
and all you desire.
At ten minus Three.
Joining to be
Ten minus Eight
Add to the slate
of the two dozen princes
that die without winces.
And add to each day of
the week."
"It almost is -" + Time, is the answer for the first paragraph.Moon day is where the word 'Monday' comes from, and the rest of that paragraph suggests it's news on the Hobbit films.The best guesses people have for the third paragraph is that it refers to times/time zones, so my money's on a 7am in LA/2am in New Zealand simultaneous announcement. -
Apr 21, 2008 6:33:38 AM CDT
del Toro also said something about making a BioShock movie
by knightshift
But he also admitted that he was more interested in the look of BioShock than anything else, and that's why he'd be tempted to try it. Personally, although I like del Toro that's one property that would not translate well into a movie.
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Now there's a shocker.
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yep. He loves Red.
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He gets a free pass from me. I'll pay to see whatever he does next. Very few directors I can say that about.
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Hate to be the harbinger of bad news, but that's a bit of a stretch d00d.
I.E. Jon Favreau is directing JOHN CARTER of MARS? No, it's code for him directing Terminator. JC = John Connor... Mars is the god of war, and there is a war happening in Terminator. Etc. Etc. Etc. -
Dig all of his 'native' films and his preoccupation with innocence confronting horror fits this new project to a T - a boy's POV, witnessing the rapture on a grocery store errand...sounds like nightmarish fun. The big enchilada for me tho is still 'Mountains', visually there's tons of scope, a hard one to adapt but if any shooter can do it, it's Guillermo. Fingers crossed he gets the financing to make Lovecraft's classic the way he envisages it.
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Ba dum bum DSSSHHHH!!!
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so I'm pretty stoked for whatever Del Toro does. Even his comic book films are heads and shoulders above the rest.
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Our apocalypse fascination gives me the creeps. So much Armageddon coverage to be found on the tube at any given moment. The science and history channels have become like 24 hour apocalypse news networks. It doesn't seem healthy... it's like we as a society are sitting around polishing our gun and muttering things about "the reckonin'". It makes us more receptive to militarism. I'm part of the problem I'm afraid... for instance I DVRed both Enterprise episodes where the small and large spheres attacked the Earth :P
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Hollywood, get on this.
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What in the FUCK? The Hobbit not being announced is no surprise, the legal issues surrounding it are going to keep it in development hell for a while, I'm assuming. But where the fuck is At The Mountains of Madness??? The one guy who could give us the best Lovecraft film since In The Mouth of Madness decides to instead beat the same path once again. *sigh* Maybe some day...
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Apr 21, 2008 8:08:12 AM CDT
Even his comic book films are heads and shoulders above the rest
by runfoodrun
That's a pretty epic fail right there!
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Apr 21, 2008 8:08:16 AM CDT
The riddle definitely referred to a Micronauts movie, not this.
by mrsentinel
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Where the Del Man does best. Even though I like the poop out of Blade Deuce, I thought HellBoy was lacking. I think if it had been in Spainish (no subtitles, even though I don't speak it) I think it would've been a lot bettter. I really like the beast, but something tells me that if Hellboy had had that deep husky melt her panties Spainish voice it would've made the movie awesome. And as far as no subtitles, that movie made little to no sense (never read the comics)so at least I would've had a reason for not knowing whats going on. Side note about that. I was living in Italy when Star Wars 2 came out. And they let you drink beer (legally) at Italian Movie Plexs (not every theater is the Alamo, even though I drink at every theater I go to, fucking summer how am I going to justify wearing a jacket now?). And long story short, saw Attack of the Yoda Fight a week are 3 later in English. And over all much more prefered the Italian version with no subtitles. Seriously, if you ever get the chance to see a big budget movie on the big screen in another language, do it. Why not?
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That sounds great!
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Attack of the Clones was bad enough in English. The thought of watching Haydn Dickheadssen wide the space potato while commenting in Italian does have comic potential. But not enough.
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Count me in.
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See I saw it in Italian first, and I didn't know how bad Jumper was. The Italian guy doing his voice over was a lot better.
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But I guess that all depends on the investors...If GDT is waiting on the money for ATMOM, then I'd rather he be working than not. That said, damn if his creatures in Hellboy I and II aren't awesome warm-ups for some Lovecraftian goodness.
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I've only been waiting for that since 96
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Apr 21, 2008 9:53:02 AM CDT
if i hear one more cthuhlu comment i am going to barf. get over
by the_one_man_gang
such a dumb word.
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... Tarzan, Mountains, Hobbit maybe and now this? And what happened to that "3993" thing? Wasn't that supposed to be another small ghost story set in Spain?
But yeah, from all those Mountains is the most interesting in my opinion, even more than Hobbit. -
I still think GDT may be involved in The Hobbit, why take the time to post on my site if he wasn't? Bit of a cock-tease if that is the case.
There is a very real possibility that he could do both..mind you he's been attached to more things than I can count..
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A Lovecraftian tale starring the Muppets. Greenlight this NOW!!!
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anyone of us could be hit by a car the next day, what's the hold up?
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Every movie I have seen of Del Toro's has been crap. Mimic was boring. Blade 2 was the WORST of the series. It had no idea of what kind of movie it wanted to be. Failed suspense, failed scares, crap cg, bad writing/dialogue, slow and fast kung-fu choreography that the first movie didn't have, horrible rap music that didn't fit anything, set up for a romance that didn't happen, Reservoir Dogs style walking shots, and a horrible location. Snipes and Perlman were the only things good about that movie. Now to Hellboy, (which I read way before the movie) yet again boring as shit. The look of the characters were pretty good but it was far less entertaining the any of the comics. Maybe he should have tried the Amazing Screw-On Head first. Pan's Labyrinth was boring as well, despite being weird. Haven't seen any of his other little films. He just strikes me as an amateurish filmmaker who's had a lot of good press for being "different" and being Harry's personal hero. Besides, have any of his films made any real money to tackle LOTR? Hellboy's getting a sequel after what, 5 years or something?
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Fuck me. I've never heard that before.
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Apr 21, 2008 11:49:23 AM CDT
Pan's Labyrinth didn't have explosions every five seconds
by mattmanreturns
So it was lost on Darksider, apparently.
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Dude, start the chemo on that brain cancer IMMEDIATELY.
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Have you SEEN Evil Dead, Darkman, or any of the Spider-Man movies? Sure they're entertaining, but they are anything but subtle. Some of Raimi's camera movements are so over the top that all you can do is laugh.
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Apr 21, 2008 11:56:56 AM CDT
Since he was born, that's when Raimi became better than DT
by runfoodrun
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...Raimi sooner or later. Hes a good filmmaker you pansies, with some amazing films behind his name (evil dead 2, a simple plan and spider-man 2). Yeah, his last effort wasn't that good, but give the guy a brake. And besides, Del Toro has some amazingly bad films also.
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How about some cross hybrid clone? We can add a dash of Jackson...he/she/it would most likely have a beard and need glasses...anyone?
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I dont know, Ive always found him a tad over rated. While nothing he's ever done has struck me as just bad, all of his movies have felt like a movie that was getting ready to start but never quite got going. THey always leave me feeling a bit...empty I guess. And I dont know where all of the love for Blade 2 comes from, when you take a step back its just 3 really long scenes or at least it feels like that. Scene 1, the blood pack or whatever find Blade. Scene 2, they get into a big fight at a party that last for 30 minutes. Scene 3, Blade tries to escape with the girl. Thats what it feels like. Pan's Labyrinth was really good though and the only film of DT's that I can say I actually liked more than just endured.
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Hey guys, you have it wrong. here is an excerpt from an interview he does with superhero hype:
CS/SHH!: Do you think you'll ever be able to go back to doing something like "The Devil's Backbone"?
GDT: Yeah, I'm writing one, but every time I say something, people think it's the next project, so I don't want to confuse anyone.
CS/SHH!: But do you think you'd be able to go back and do a smaller movie like that again?
GDT: Not only do I think so. I must do so. I have to do it. The fact that I'm doing two big movies in a row, or in this case three, I'm going to come out of there not wanting to do something big. I'm going to want to do something small and crazy.
(As we'd find out at the panel later that "small and crazy" thing might be his exploration of childhood and horror which he's been working on for a few years, something called "Saturn and the End of Days," about a young boy named "Saturn" watching the Rapture and Apocalypse on the way back and forth to the grocery store. Essentially, he wants to explore how the end of the world might be viewed while someone is just going about your everyday life doing errands. "Nothing big happens except the entire world is being swallowed in a vortex of fire," Del Toro told the rapt audience of his fans at the panel. "It's a small movie, but I assure you that one I am just doing that I know that if everything fails and everything goes wrong that I'll be doing a small movie that I fully control and that no one else will do for sure.")
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Although he seems to get in to some projects for the wrong reasons (blade 2 for example, he agreed on doing it only because he wanted to do a vampire with a split up jaw). Honestly I see the same symptom with the Hobbit, he said somewhere that the Hobbit is not a passion project, but that Smaug would be such an awesome character to do. The thing is, his best work comes from these "passion projects", like Pan's, Devil's Backbone and to some extent Hellboy, which is a deeply flawed but watchable film.
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That IS an excellent movie. In fact, it's so pitch perfect, I'm honestly surprised Raimi directed it. It's like no other film he's done. Possibly one of the most underrated films of all time.
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This will only work if he spends the whole movie carrying around a gingerbread man, and at the end when teh world is gone, he stands and eats it, in the style of Goya.....
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I cannot wait. Really cool idea. Pan's Labyrinth was genius filmmaking.
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Wow. Another "horror" movie about a little kid. How original.
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...have no freaking clue, do you? Anyone who still blames Raimi for Spider-Man 3 should shake their head (or just haul it out of their ass).
Avi Arad informed Raimi after the script (which I'm still searching for) was already written and production had already started gearing up, that he'd have to scrap everything to put Venom in it, or else he'd lose the SM franchise. Don't blame Raimi, blame Arad (the sucker of cox). Remember, Raimi NEVER wanted to put Venom in a SM movie.Let's face it, GDT is a master of fantasy. I hope that The Hobbit is his baby now, although Raimi would have been fantastic. Mountains of Madness will happen, I'm sure, but it'll be fun to see what GDT comes up with until it does. I'll see Saturn if it comes to my parts (although I'm steamed that I haven't seen The Orphanage come though here). -
To work in film the Lovecraft stuff needs a degree of subtlety that I'm not sure he(or anyone in Hollywood) can or want to give it. The problem is if he fumbles ATMOM then it kills any hope for Lovecraft adaptations this generation. The film needs to be a period piece, and not in a jokey The Mummy Returns way. Also it shouldn't be Pan's Labyrinth in the Antarctic. It's not fantasy horror, if anything it's Carpenter's The Thing circa 1929, but will Del Toro have the balls to make that film?
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Raimi should have walked right the fuck off and given up the franchise instead of sticking around to make a crap movie. So yeah, even if true, he gets some blame.
But I will admit that the more Avi Arad seems to be involved in a Marvel film, the suckiness quotient goes up substantially. He's like the Rick Bergman of the Marvel franchises. Someone please take away his keys already. -
Dell Toro said himself that hes doing 2 big movies (then correcting himself to 3, which means 2 hobbit movies +1) before he starts with Saturn. The intriguing part here is the other movie besides Hobbit. Only movies on his "to do" list that qualify as being called big are Tarzan and Mountains. He said that he wants to do a faithful adaptation of the Tarzan pulp novels, which means magic and monsters. And everyone who has read "At The Mountains Of Madness" knows that to make a good adaptation of it, you need quite a budget. I mean, its set in the 1930's, in the Antarctic circle, features mountains higher than the Himalayas that we get a good look at on more occasions, also features a ruined ancient city built by aliens and 6 foot high penguins. Oh, and we already know that Del Toro plans to do a flashback in the mural reading sequence. So yeah, no wonder no studio had the balls to pick it up yet. But after he does Hobbit, it should be smooth sailing for his Lovecraft film, if he doesn't decide to do something else that is...
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make it so
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"The fact that I'm doing two big movies in a row, or in this case three, I'm going to come out of there not wanting to do something big. I'm going to want to do something small and crazy."
I think the 3 movies he was talking about were Hellboy, which he's doing now and the Hobbit, which if everything goes well he would be doing next. -
Meet me at the bar in 5 minutes.
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"Bobby, can you run to the store and get some milk and bread?" "Fuck yeah, Ma!"
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yet who, besides Peter Jackson would? I think at the very least they should keep it in New Zealand. After Caspian, I think Adamson will seem like the best alternative if PJ can't do it. The more I see of Caspian, the more impressive it looks.
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This ATMoM geekgasm made me forget about hellboy 2. So yeah, bummer if it means more waiting for some Lovecraft movie love.
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... he's not doing THE HOBBIT. Just that he wasn't announcing it this weekend, but instead announced this film. I'm sure he is doing THE HOBBIT as long as all the legal issues are cleared up. He's spent six months saying so. It's not a mystery.
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like in the end of the movie, the kid can't buy groceries anymore and one of the 4 horsemen comes to take the kid away and the kid dies...and then it is revealed that the apocalypse was in the kid's head all along, just some mental disorder because some overbearing religious parents made the kid shop for them as their slave
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in pan's labyrinth, the fantasy world was real and not in her head. i also wish that in the orphanage, the ghosts had been real and not in her head. dont get me wrong, the movies worked well, but i love fantasy for fantasy...not fantasy for the sake of real-world tragedy. i'm sure these "twists" are what made the movies stick in my head...but still. i choose to still believe that the wizard of oz was not in dorothy's head.
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knows what the hell he's doing more often than not. And I can't be excited or not by the hobbit until I see some trailer. Now, what I like about the idea of him doing the hobbit is that if he does it right, and the movie is sucessful, it'll mean he'll get whatever money he needs to make ATMOM.
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and any number of overrated films about whatever set during a revolution. Anything, anything to keep him away from ruining Burroughs and Lovecraft.
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Apr 21, 2008 8:43:05 PM CDT
Could someone just make The Hobbit before I die of [your disease
by yotzvonfrelnik
It's all those little red tape-y things that drive a person bonkers.
Every few years there's always a big movie that we go nuts waiting for the official word that we can finally relax. Aaaaggghh!
I'm not as worried as I once was, but that Tolkein estate litigation stuff just creeps me out. -
Apr 21, 2008 8:44:17 PM CDT
Damn! Cut it off. "...before I die of [your disease here]!"
by yotzvonfrelnik
Thought I gauged that one right.
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Release date??? NOW!!!
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You heard it here first...
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In the right hands could be incredible, ever read any of the novels, great pulpy stuff!
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In the right hands could be incredible, ever read any of the novels, great pulpy stuff!
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Maybe next time.
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another film about their favourite fairytale to get the blood flowing in anticipation for the Rapture. Jesus is coming back during our lifetime and let's just hope the president finally instigates WWIII so that nukes will be flying and Armageddon will be upon us. So that all the good little boys and girls who say their prayers will all see eachother in Heaven finally. I'm all for Del Toro doing far out stuff, but please, give the religious idiocy that has been growing more and more out of hand a rest will ya? It's the year 2008 for pete's sake, aren't we supposed to walk around in aluminum suits with biotech sticking out of our ears? And by the way, while all of those sitting on their knees are mumbleing gibberish to their psychosis in the clouds, I'll be standing over there, with all those other religions that all think they KNOW that they are right. It sounds like a good story, something imaginative and I can't wait how Del Tory is going to make it look, I'm just getting sooo fed up with getting these Abrahamic myths forced up my throat. Sorry just needed to vent... all the good stuff seems te be getting more and more hijacked by the two big religions in the world, and Hollywood is getting to play the part of feeding subliminal messeages into everybodies heads, how many films have come out the last years with some kind of pro or con subtext or just plain subject about religion and it's effect on society and the world? Art was a tool for getting religious context across for centuries, finally in the 20th century that tradition was broken, revelutionising the meaning and progress of art, it seems we're going back to the dark ages again now. But hey, Del Toro, do what you have to do, but make it worthwhile.
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Wow, if the short description of what GTD is up to sets off that big of a rant perhaps some therapy is in order.
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great the special effects were spot on. It was a bit small scale, but I think the second will have a much much large and more epic scope. With a larger budget. Blade 2 was by far the best of the series. And of course, Pan's Labrynth was pure genius. One of the most original movies I've seen.
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Apr 22, 2008 3:34:14 PM CDT
Sounds like Cloverfield. With the Apocalypse instead of
by crichtonastronut
a big tentaclly monster. With DelToro we can expect some brilliant thematic stuff. So there'll likely be more shades of Pan's Labyrinth and the Biblical allusions fun of the Fountain.
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Bring it on!
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you heard it here first, folks!
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I('ll) watch everything done by Del Toro
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