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AICN Games: Mortal Kombat vs. the DC Universe? Batman vs. Sub-Zero? AWESOME!
Greetings humans, Monki here with a really quick update from Las Vegas. I came out here to check out Midway's Gamers Day and see the line-up for the rest of the year.
I'm planning on doing a nice big story on the whole event and talk about all the different games I got to preview, but right now I want to share something with you that I find completely badass.
One of the first games I truly fell in love with at the local arcade was Mortal Kombat. I remember going to the mall and playing that machine for hours, trying to figure out different moves, gawking at crazy-ass fatalities, swapping stories about mysterious "hidden" characters. (Reptile!!) I remember clearly the day I walked in and saw that they had installed a second television monitor on TOP of the machine so that more people could see the action clearly. These were the times when "winner stays" meant something.
I followed the series along, MK2 brought Baraka with his badass blades...MK3, MK4...I've kept up with the series pretty well over the past few years...even that awesomely horrible Sub-Zero game.
Anyway, imagine my thrill when I glanced over yesterday and saw I was sitting a mere ten feet away from Ed Boon...one of the masterminds behind the whole Mortal Kombat saga...one half of Noob Saibot. I figured we were going to hear about the next-gen MK title and that it would probably use the Unreal 3 engine...no big whoop.
And then they knock us all on our collective asses.
Mortal Kombat vs. the DC Universe. Holy shit.
As of now they've only announced four playable characters, Sub-Zero, Scorpion, Superman and Batman. We'll be hearing more soon about the expanding roster.
How wild is MK vs. DC? And how crazy is it that we have Street Fighter vs. Marvel and now the complete opposite. I always thought the DC characters were a bit darker...it makes perfect sense to pair them up with the MK world.
One minor problem though...apparently at some point in the night (probably over a few drinks) Ed Boon was heard saying that there would NOT be Fatalities in the game. This would be a huge deal if it is true. Nothing was more badass than ripping someone's spine out in front of a group of peers...I can't imagine MK without it! Perhaps we'll see the return of Babalities or Friendships...I guess DC doesn't want Superman to be bludgeoned to death by his own arm?
Gamespot has an interview with Ed Boon talking about the game and how it all works. Check it out.
Anyway, I really wanted to share that with you folks...I have plenty more coming up soon.
Until next time, back down to the craps tables I go!
-Monki
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I'm just saying...
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How do you fight superman does this take place under a red sun? Kryptonite in the drinking water?
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Apr 19, 2008 3:02:41 PM CDT
That said, I was ready to dismiss this upon reading the title...
by googamooga
However, the game itself actually DOES look pretty cool. Shame about the fatalities, but that's the way of the world. Everyone's too worried about offending someone and/or looking bad.
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I've known about this for a couple days. MK boards hate the idea because comics are "gay" and "subzero wuld freez batmans head at 100yards and decaptiate hm" Comic book boards seem to hate the idea because MK is passe and a trainwreck. I personally think to myself...awesome.
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Now he must feel dumb about that whole I don't kill thing.
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but my geek is huge? I figure to get the full talkback experience I need to get first at least once.
The scuttlebutt is that it's T-rated, but as hard of a T as they can manage. There will be finishing moves, but they'll be limited. -
no one died in Mortal Kombat.
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having no fatalities would just make the game stupid and pointless. You CANNOT have a mortal kombat game without fatalities. THe popularity of the game was always the violence. The game play was never as good as streetfighter but it made up for it with its sheer brutality. Having a MK game without fatalities is like having Batsuit with nipples.
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An old-school Hollywood action hero match up. The art above looks like the cover art for the movie "War," but brings up more of a tingle from the comic fan/nostalgia fan in the best of us.
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Apr 19, 2008 3:09:42 PM CDT
Because Star Wars and Soul Calibur wasn't crazy enough...
by xanthos samurai
Could be interesting! I'm just wondering when they'll do Mortal Kombat Vs. Marvel Vs. Capcom Vs. DC.
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now, just make an SNK vs. DC vs. Capcom vs. Namco vs. DOA vs. Marvel vs. MK, throw into the mix a few outsiders as secret, unlockable chaps (Solid Snake, Link, Kent Paul and Samus Aran) and remix catchy themes from said games à la Super Smash Bros. I'd buy that for a $.
BTW I'm dead serious, no "geek sarcasm" in my post. I'd really pay to play that sucker. -
we all know Batman will kick there arse before it's even loaded in
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I hope they change their minds about those fatalities.
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and I don't mind that much about the lack of fatalities: MK games were never THAT good, and the whole project smells like a marketing stunt in the first place; but if the final product is even half as good as a good ol' Marvel vs. Capcom it would be enough to calm my thirst before the SFIV release...
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What the fuck? Superman and most of the DCU characters are not killers, so what would be their fatalities? This by any means will NEVER be as good as MVC.
Capcom would have done another sequel had not Marvel asked for more money.Bitches! -
I dont know how I feel about it. Kotaku.com has reported that there wont be fatalities. But on the other hand it would be cool to play as the DC characters. So I quess I will have to wait and see how it will turn out.
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I can't wait to stick Liu Kang between the eyes with a batarang.
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uhhh...
Lobo ?
Bane ?
I honestly don't know DC from atom...
How about the Joker? HHAHAAA. I know that wouldn't work but that just shows how the ideas don't really mix. -
looks dumb.
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Watch Moses, Jesus, and Mohammad kick the bejeesus out of Superman and his merry band of spandex wearing patsies.
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nuff said
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No thank youBig Head Codes anyone?
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Watch Zeus, Achilles and the Minotaur rip Dracula, Frankenstein, and the Wolfman a new asshole.
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Watch Kant, Schelling and Hegel bitchslap the existentialist shit out of Neo, V, and the Watchmen.
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When the franchise was still pretty good with MK3 and there was still hope that DC could produce a good video game.
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He sends his opponent to Arkham and ends up fighting them the next round.
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He leaves the match to go lift stuff and his opponent falls asleep waitign for him to do something.
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She doesn't have one.. who the fuck is gonna play as Wonder Woman? Oh wait... I guess she could snap their neck on live tv and turn emo.
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I like WW and Batmans.
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fucking stupid is this kind of idea... i mean really DC vs. mortal kombat.... what's next pokemon vs. digimon??? can't anyone think of a better idea of displaying a video game , instead of using the same characters and just adding them to a whole new dimension... why can't game developers come up with something new, instead of using the same old ideas or even making another sequel outta them. FUCK!!!!
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Apr 19, 2008 4:25:43 PM CDT
Idealists bitchslap the existentialist shit out of anti heroes
by spencertrilby
you, Sir, just made my day. That's not AICN catchphrase material (too fucking hard to borrow and randomly use in casual discussion) but that was hilarious nonetheless.
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hmmm
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Marvel vs. Capcom owns all over this game before it's even released.
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who the fuck is excited about this? I've always been a huge DC Comics fan and a huge fan of fighters. If this was a sequel to Capcom vs Marvel I would be excited. God, if this was a DC vs MARVEL game my head would implode....but MK vs DC? The MK games have been average at best in recent years, hell, all Midway games have been average at best recently. No gore? No fatalities? These are like the two things that made MK different than all the other fighters. What, can't expose the little kiddies to have Batman's testicles or something ripped? This is just lame ass quick cash in job. Fuck you Midway and fuck you mortal kombat
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metaphysical on yo ass!
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What's next--MORTAL KOMBAT vs. THE FACTS OF LIFE? Maybe AMERICAN IDOL-- no dumber than this crap.
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as soon as I realized this was real and not just some awkward title trickery my thoughts went immediately to playing as the Joker or Harley, fighting with electro-shock joy-buzzers and acid-squirting lapel flowers. I'd rather beat up Kano as Joker or Lex Luthor than as Green Arrow or Black Canary
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I haven't played a MK game in a long, long time and it will probably stay that way.
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Dawkings, Hitchens and unlockable obscure scientists (I'm pulling for Vygotsky) square off in the truthiest battle royale ever against unicorns, random cartoon characters and unique daydream conjurations! Hitchens's fatality will be turning into the Flying Spaghetti Monster and whipping his opponent with a noodly appendage into a mess of bloody mulch, while Dawkins will put his hands to his temples in intense concentration and through the power of disbelief, make his opponents soul evaporate! Truthality! Meanwhile, a dinosaur with Oprah's face eats you twice! Surreal Failed Dietality! Mickey Mouse cranks off on his opponent! Unnecessary gross imagality!
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Throw that in there and I'm game.
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I swear. Some of you are cynical to the bone and never satisfied. MK VS DC may not be everyone's cup of tea but it's an intriguing enough idea that deserves the benefit of the doubt. I can live without having fatalities, if I get to kick and head butt batman about 20 times, while falling 200 feet through debris and finishing him off by throwing his ass through a temple for good measure before he goes down. It's DC's call if they feel the fatalities go against the image of many of their characters. Suck it up and deal with it.
If you dont give a shit.. dont buy the damn game. Simple as that. Go play Rainbow Six and get your sadistic fix on a couple of head shots.
I understand that everyone has a right to speak on how they feel but damn it's ridiculous just how many fucks get bent out of shape over the most tedious details without waiting for the finishing product
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I know that fatalities are a big deal with MK but we still don't know what the final product will be. If your decision to buy the game depends on the fatalities and it doesn't happen, then don't buy it. Perhaps that will let the makers of MK know in the future when they make licensing deals like this that they cannot give up the fatality option.
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MKA didnt really have fatalities instead it had everyone one do the same one. So I guess not having them at all isnt that bad.
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Socrates, Plato and Leo Strauss get medieval on the morons that besmirched their tradition. Thucydides and Abu Nasr al-Farabi preside over the massacre. No fatalities: chicken-hawks and liberals don't know dick about war.
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Superman is just so ridiculously powerful that he could just stand there laughing and eating peanuts while Baraka tries to scratch him. He could blow Rayden's head up with heat vision whilst taking a piss. None of the MK crew can realistically touch him. I hope DC loses the rights to the character. At least the Sentry is a mentalist.
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neo-cons *are* chicken-hawks.
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Magic, baby.
If they're in the magical Outworld (or whatever the MK tournament world is called) then Superman doesn't have a yellow sun, so he's running on reserves, and he's fighting magickal enemies, which happens to be his one real weakness.
Superman's not the problem. The problem is if they include Wonder Woman, Green Lantern or The Flash.
WW is a goddess capable of going one-on-one with a full-power Superman. The Flash should be so fast you couldn't see him on the screen. Green Lantern can do ANYTHING with his ring, and magic don't mean shit to him. The only way you'll stop GL is if the whole MK crew starts covers themselves in yellow.
This is a bad idea. It will be silly and cheesy if they include the DC powerhouses. I could totally get behind an MK vs. DC game if they only used characters like Batman, Deathstroke, Bane, Nightwing, and Cyborg... But the godlike DC characters are just not suited to this type of game, with these opponents.
Even weakened, Superman could rip Goro in half, and wouldn't be in danger from a Sub-Zero attack. AND HE CAN FLY. Why would Superman just stand on the ground and have a fistfight with Liu Kang, when he can fly a mile above him and zap the shit out of him with heat vision?
The ONLY way this will work is if the MK characters get a serious upgrade, or if they cut out the mere mortal characters (Johnny, Sonia, etc.) in favor of godlike guys like Raiden and Goro. -
... is really low on charge and basically can only use his ring to protect himself. Problem solved.
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vs Street Fighter versus soulcaliber vs MK vs star wars vs final fantasy dissidia vs Justin vs Kelly vs 2 FAST!!! vs 2 FURIOUS!!! vs AICN vs DarkHorizons vs Microsoft vs Apple vs 360 vs PS3 vs Wii vs IE vs Firefor vs Netscape vs KANEEEDAAA!!! vs TETSUOOOOO!!! vs Michael Bay vs Uwe Boll featuring the full Super Smash Bros cast as unlockable characters!
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A:It's just a game. B: No one gave a shit about marvel vs capcom. That game has godlike marvel powerhouses too, but non retards just played the game for what it was, and had fun, instead of trying to get all logical about a game where people shoot fireballs out of their hands, jump miles into the sky, pilot mechs, and have superpowers, and weild lightsabers. Your post was neither informative, witty, humorous, or intelligent. Just shut the fuck up.
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...LAWLZ DEM KARACTORZ 2 POWAHFUL DEY WUD KILL EVRYONE!!!!111LOLOLBBQLOLOLONEELEVEN!!!1111
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Well it is.
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what comics do you read.
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god that would be fucking awesome.
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at one point so much was going on i had no idea what just happened, but it was awesome. The way they make the Marvel characters move. awesome. playing as Dr Doom, fuck yeah.
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Thanks to Congress pissing and moaning about the brutality involved (and seeing Sub-Zero kill Sonya in MK1 brought the domestic violence groups panties in a big bunch). After that, the Fatalities for MK3 were severely watered down. Midway tried to recapture some of what they lost with the Brutalities in the home version, but it was too little, too late. As far as DC is concerned, Batman has killed how many? Superman? Anyone of the big names really killed anyone in the DC Universe?I think if they really want to do this right, they need to keep the fatalities and maybe make it more like Mortal Kombat: Shaolin Monks. Just my $0.02.
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Ninja vs a God. Ha.
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but if he can kill others I say he pisses through the loser. pee rips the skin right off. Batman doesn't kill people... Things are not making sence.....
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I think this conversation rivals some of the more riddiculous ones we used to have as kids, which went something like "Dude, can you imagine if Superman took on Darth Vader? Wouldn't that be awesome?" and the response to this always remains: Sure, if I'm convinced it can happen. I don't want to know what kind of twisted story they're building around this. I care only if I can play in arcade mode, dump the "story" and try to remember it's first and foremost a fighting game. Incidently, I watched a rabid MK fan on You Tube rant uncontrolably on this last night...they're not pleased.
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im talkin bout broken beer bottles and prison shives. Maybe they could throw in a russian roulette mini-game. TITI MOW!!!!!
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Kotaku already confirmed the no fatalities. Citing the reason that DC didn't want their properties being torn apart, blown up, etc.
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and it was called Marvel:Nemesis.
Nice effort,not so good execution.
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I want to frag up all these bastiches! (aaah, the Lobo swearwords!)
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Lame. Looks like a PS2 game from the trailer. Stupid, horrible idea. I hope it flops hard.
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Up, Down, Left, Left, Right, Right, Down, Up.That'll be 'punch' then.Tekken for ever, monkeys!
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Mortal Kombat hasnt been relevent since about 1996. The fighting mechanics in the new games are terrible. Quite simply its as dated as John Connor in T2. Ed Boon is and Ass Candle. Wake me up when they announce Marvel Vs DC.
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And one more thing. The thought of the Mortal Kombat characters (and I use that term VERY loosely) being mentioned in the same sentence. As Batman, Superman etc. Makes me throw up a bit in my mouth....and im not even into comics that much.
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R-E-T-A-R-D-E-D
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I PUNCHED THE FIRE NINJA FROM PLANET NINJATRON AND HE TOINED INTO A SQUEALING BABAY!!! BADOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOIOING!!!!
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The DC heroes will have something like 'Finishers' rather than Fatalities. They won't behave 'out of character for superheroes'...The MK guys will have their Fatalities, and their Finisher for each superhero, so, Superman's not gonna die at the hands of Shang Tsung (Though that shit would be fucking hot ass tits.)And Ender, you and I see eye to eye on this...Batman WILL kick the shit out of these fags..and if there's someone from Midway looking at this, make him an alternate fucking Dark Knight Returns costume, all scraggly and shit, and it will be the perfect game for me.Admittedly, though, I'm a Batman fanboy...
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Oh, and get this: When Sub Zero yanks that bitch's head off? She looks like Chuck Norris. Go back and play it. Tell me she doesn't.
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"It musta been a typo,a typo,a typo.."
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I'm not buying a shitty X BOX 360.
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If Marvel can have Colossus, Hulk, Storm, Magneto, and Juggernaut in a game, I think DC get away with having Superman, Wonder Women and The Flash.
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CARE BEAR STARE FATALITY!!! OMFG!!! OMFG!!!!!!!!!!
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Wonder Woman vs.... anyone. Mmmmm.
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We both win! Yay!
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HAYABABALAYYYYYYY
would be interesting to see him use it on the real Supes.
oh yeah, and Raiden's more powerful than Superman. he's a god, after all. but whenever he fights in any of the MK games, he fights as a mortal and risks his life. i'm assuming they'd use some similar shit for the DC characters.
all the MK games have some kind of merger with realms so the DC guys start losing abilities.
i think it'll be Batman's game though, like MK1 was Sub-Zero's. he just seems too suited to both universes. though from what i remember, Sub turned good guy with amplified godlike powers from that medallion and was dressed up like Shredder from TMNT. Maybe he's as powerful as Iceman from the Marvel Universe. Either way, all the characters can mix easily with tweaking, the issue is the GAMEPLAY.
I liked the 3D MK games' gameplay on paper... the idea of using real martial arts styles and switching inbetween them seemed cool and the interface was implemented alright but it wasn't fluid. if they can make the gameplay fluid and seem natural, as well as balance it while retaining the complexity of mixing 2-3 styles per fighter, it could be good. -
they need to release some promo in-game shots. Unreal Engine 3 is drop dead gorgeous and screenies would look beautiful. i don't understand why they haven't already.
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"Why would Superman just stand on the ground and have a fistfight with Liu Kang, when he can fly a mile above him and zap the shit out of him with heat vision?"Why didn't anyone ask that in The Dark Knight Returns?
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Since he is essentially a god, its ludicrous to have him square off against anyone who isn't a god. That goes for comics, movies, cartoons, what have you. If he's fighting regular guys, its stupid. I mean, what would you do if Superman caught you being a bad guy? Fight him? Right.
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INSTANT FAIL. Anyone who thinks this shit is cool needs to be hit in the head with a sharp and/or blunt instrument.
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the Beetle into this game.
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I'm not much of a DC fan beyond Batman and his rogue gallery though. I have my doubts about this one, particularly the "T" rating. But if they amp up the gameplay, story, and the violence then it could be really awesome!
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This game ought to be more like Marvel versus Capcom. In fact Capcom is doing the smart thing by keeping Street Fighter 4 traditional while updating the graphics with 3D! That's how it's done!
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I watched the interview with Boon and I don't think he meant that fatalities wouldn't be in the game at all. I think he meant that there wouldn't be any "stage" fatalities that would kill your opponent quickly even if you are losing big-time. Meaning that you wouldn't be able to throw Batman into a bunch of spikes and kill him, but that doesn't mean that you wouldn't be able to perform fatalities after he's already beat.
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You know, Mortal Kombat. The bloody game with FATALITIES! The game with the grusome fighting! Ok, if DC is just too "motherly protective" over its characters. Fine. It's ok if DC can't stand the thought of having its heroes getting ripped apart and splattered all over the screen. I can take that DC doesn't have the nutsacks to really have their "gods" be totally 1-on-1 with some of the greatest characters in fighting games history. Cool. Don't do it with MK, go see if POKEMON is up to getting Pikachu and the rest of the pokemon having their asses handed to them even before anything is really set in stone. Hey, maybe Dr Suess is up for the Cat in the Hat vs. Batman. Damn! I'll buy that for a dollar!
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You guys need to stop going berzerk at every little tidbit that gets dropped and stop asking like every out-of-context nugget is truth.
"According to Boon, there will definitely be fatality-like finishing moves, but they may not be called fatalities. After all, it's doubtful that Superman or Batman would be ripping out anyone's spines or hearts. That said, the team is hellbent on pushing the limits to what they can do with the DC characters, so you can expect to see blood and some level of damage accumulate during a fight." -
She whips out her ginormus boobs at the opponent and he/she explodes from hormonal overload.
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He swims around and around and around and around then the opponent dies of boredom.
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