April 18, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST
to say this movie sucks? Probably not.
April 18, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
I seem to remember it being critically savaged.
April 18, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST
I like you. We get it you are a likeable enthusiastic guy. But you are becoming the definition of one trick pony. Stop making your "CONTROVERSIAL" documentaries that play out more family dramas with your wife then anything useful or in-depth. Stick with producing. 30 days is actually worth while. The Superhero movie was excellent. I don't mind you having to put your mug on everything you do because your the biggest media whore this side of Kevin Smith, but just stop making your documentaries. That are stop calling them documentaries. Most documentaries are made by people who have spent years with the subject they are filming and have done lots of reaserch. Supersize Me came off about as in-depth as a wikipedia post. You aren't as good as you think, use your fame to help bring other more talanted filmmakers out. It is hard to hate Morgan, because he does come off as an interesting fun guy. Maybe thats why no one will tell him, his shit stinks.
April 18, 2008, 10:19 a.m. CST
I saw nearly 45 minutes of this a couple months ago. Morgan's a narcissistic douche. There are numerous times in the footage that I saw where Spurlock is genuinely surprised that he is not allowed to just waltz into temples and start filming whatever he wants and interview whomever he pleases. Ignorant asshole.
April 18, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST
by uss cygnus
AICN Supports AL-Qaeda '08!
April 18, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST
by uss cygnus
I guess Spurlock, and Oliver Stone were out burning the flag on the day they taught that in school. Deport them both.
April 18, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST
I swear I saw it on here a couple of months ago. I'd search for it but, well, you know how the search function works here.
April 18, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST
by F U Popeaphile
How could you see through the eye holes of your hood when you typed those most excellent comments?
April 18, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
What a fucking toolbox. <P>IS that the best you can do? Dickhead. <P>It's not as if you haven't recycled that shitty joke about, oh say, 1000000 times. Is your idea to repeat until funny? because it isn't working.
April 18, 2008, 10:44 a.m. CST
by F U Popeaphile
You should see him over on the GI Joe tbs. He's all like..." GI JOKE!! GI JOKE!!!....See what I came up with?....umm No. What a fag
April 18, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
crap. Or his lame title spams. <P>He's a knuckledragging cretin.
April 18, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST
It would of been embarrassment for our country and more specifically, our military. They are the ones looking for him. Its not Bush out there with a flashlight. Be reasonable Capone.
April 18, 2008, 11:41 a.m. CST
as in homosexual gay
April 18, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
and I'm devastated that I missed giving you and your equally vile compadre AnimalBraneBalls a thorough kicking for some of your truly dreadful and wildly innaccurate beliefs
April 18, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST
My wife got pregnant? No, I think I'm going to stick with shite concept/shite flim maker.
April 18, 2008, 12:21 p.m. CST
It's unhealthy. Also, did you know that the Earth is round and G.W. is a moron?
April 18, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST
by Spastic Jedi
Oh right, he's right there on camera the whole time. <p> When did documentaries become about the documentarian? <p> Seems to me Moore and Spurlock make projects about themselves more than anything else.
April 18, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST
by Wee Willie
My wife and I were on the midwife train with our first kid. One day, we had an MSS screening done. The results came back that our kid had a 75% chance of having Down's Syndrome. We were devestated. Then we got a sheepish call from the midwife explaining that she had filled out our forms incorrectly before sending them along with my wife's blood sample... We fired her and went with a doctor, who re-did the test and found that the kids was well within normal range. THEN, when our son was born, he got stuck. His little shoulder got stuck on my wife's pelvis. The doctor did some quick cutting with a scalpel, reached in, and freed the little dude. The nurse said later that it takes a lot of skill to do what the doctor did and that if my son had been stuck for more than a minute, he likely would have died. I imagined what that incompetent midwife would have done in a similar situation. Who do you want to trust your unborn kid with? Someone with a college diploma, or eight years of training, plus residency?
April 18, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST
Yes, I know it doesn't have the same ring as Jim Schoenfeld's "Go have another donut, you fat pig" to NHL referee Don Koharski, but no matter what side of the political aisle you're on, Spurlock is just a waste of space. Michael Moore is Edward R. Murrow compared to this self-aggrandizer.
April 18, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST
Ever notice the URL to AICN's pages? That's where "Node" comes from, Sherlock. <p> I thought Bush was gonna smoke out bin Laden, you know, to bring justice to 3,000 Americans killed? <p> Bush: "A fellow came the other day to the office, and said, well, are you worried about Mr. bin Laden? I said, no, I'm not too worried about him. He's the guy that needs to be worried. But I want to assure you, the objective is not bin Laden. Oh, we'll get bin Laden. There's only so many caves he can hide in, if he's still hiding in caves. My attitude was, once we get him running, it's just a matter of time before we bring him to justice." <p> Prick.
April 18, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST
Still preaching to the choir, I see. How do you sleep at night, Morgan?
April 18, 2008, 1:44 p.m. CST
by Darth Macchio
And I still don't get why people aren't chasing this goat-teed fuck down the street with torches yelling "you took my super-sized coke away you fucking dickhat!!!"<p><p><p>Seriously...I don't need this self-obsessed putz telling me shit I already fucking know and then acting like he's god damn moses just got back from speaking to the burning bush. I consider him the same human shit-tripe as those fucktwit teenagers in the anti-smoking ads. These fucking adolescent morons, unfamiliar with anything remotely resembling critical thinking, join up in their masturbatory group-think pretentions that somehow using megaphones to yell at fat-cats out in front of the big tobacco buildings will make the minions of Sauron...err...I mean Big Tobacco realize the vile evil they have commited and what....start selling fucking candy? Nobody forces anybody to do anything in these contexts. Nobody forces you to smoke or eat fast food. And get off the "poor people" nebulous term used to defend these pretentious assholes. Poor people aren't allowed into fucking libraries? Poor people aren't allowed in school? Read a fucking book and stop acting like without you we'd all be monkeys chewing our nads up in the trees.<p><p><p>Oh and thanks for the right-versus-left continuation into this thread (no surprise) and hopefully infinity and beyond!!! (read: the modern version of SPY V SPY!!!!)...it's inane and totally awesome at the same time!!<p><p><p>Seriously...I'm sure all of you are probably decent people in real life...but seriously...get a room already! Sheesh!
April 18, 2008, 1:48 p.m. CST
his work is always relevant???? Supersize me may as well just been the nutrition fact sheet on the screen for an hour and a half. Enough time for retards who don't understand it to go look up what each thing means. <P> This biggest problem I have with Supersize me, is that the special features were more informative then the movie. There is an interview with Eric Schlosser thats is a million times more informative and interesting then what Morgan said. How Fast Food Nation was turned into a garbage fictional movie with a narative while Morgan get an Oscar nom for best doc? These two movies should have been totally the other way. Supersize Me Should've been a stupid comedy about a guy who was bet that he couldn't eat McD's for a whole month, and Morgan wouldn't have been half bad as the dumb shmuck. And Fast Food Nation should have been an in-depth documentary exposing the fast food world for those to lazy to read, or for those you would like to see pictures for the words. Spurlock is like Moore for dummies, and thats sad.
April 18, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST
And the like time by time shot of the different burgers left in the open and how it took forever for the McD's ones to spoil and the french fries never went. Yeah after seeing that it made me try to remember the last time I saw a french fry that didn't like just like every other french fry I had ever seen. That concept, while very basic, was pretty damn effecttive in getting the point across of how bad that food is.
April 18, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST
Of course we all know that fast food is bad for you but who would've thought eating at McDonald's for one month, 3 squares per day, could do so much damage to your body in such a small amount of time? There was also quite a bit of ancillary information provided in the film, including the ridiculous portions of food Americans consume at one sitting. The film wasn't merely about the perils of fast food but also the portions we consume, which is the real cause of obesity in this country.
April 18, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST
Although I tend to agree that eating fast food is, of course, voluntary, I disagree about smoking. Nicotine is highly addictive, and the cigarette companies are not only aware of it, but they control the amount of nicotine and introduce chemicals to speed up the nicotine delivery. So smoking really is a different issue than fast food. And far more dangerous. If smoking were outlawed, I have no doubt that in less than a year's time, no one would even miss a cigarette, and our nation's health would be vastly improved, to say the least.
April 18, 2008, 2:07 p.m. CST
Spelunking was ordering like $10 worth of food at a time when he went to McD's. Normally people only order one meal. Not a meal and and 2 burgers. <P> Granted I just ordered $9 of crap at Taco Bell the other night (and was not high). But I did just get off of from working 12 hours. I ain't got Morbid's problem, in fact I actually lost 8 pounds this week.
April 18, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST
Have you read fast food nation?
April 18, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST
I have a very high metabolism so I never had a weight problem, and I do enjoy some fatty foods (fat does taste awesome). But if what you say is true, then the country really does need to address the problem through some regulation and education. I'm a former smoker, so I can seriously attest to the addictive quality of nicotine/cigarettes. That shit really takes people over. But quitting it was so damned easy once you understood your own addiction. I think the same could be done for fat people like Morbid here.
April 18, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST
I recommend you look up a weight loss book by Allen Carr. His book on quitting smoking helped me quit in a matter of days, so I think he could be of help to you for your weight loss problem. Good luck.
April 18, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST
I frequently cross it. Depends on my mood.
April 18, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST
There is a section of the book about how all the frech fries come from almost one factory or like a few. And there is one person that gets to just taste french fries all day long. Like freshly cut and fried. I was like wow, I never thought there would be a job that I was born to do, but there is. Man I would kill to have that job. The author said that it was the best damn fries he ever had.
April 18, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST
True story, somewhat related to this religion side topic ... <p> A couple of months ago, my GF and I were sitting on the couch and we heard some tapping. It was a very steady tapping, maybe an even 8 seconds apart. We looked around and she saw that her handbag was moving. It looked like something was tapping it from the inside (I wish I had taped this). A very steady tap. She couldn't think of anything that would do that, like her cellphone or whatever. So I took it to the hallway thinking it might be a mouse ... <p> I emptied the purse and there was NOTHING in it that could have caused the tapping. Absolutely nothing. We were baffled by it, but couldn't figure it out. <p> A few days later, she told her mom about it, and her mom reminded her that her cat (who lived with her mom) had just recently passed away, and that cat always loved to play in her handbags before. So now we're convinced her kitty had paid us a visit. <p> It's times like that I do believe in the spiritual world, perhaps in God, but I certainly don't put any faith in organized religion.
April 18, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST
It was the world premiere at Grauman's Chinese in LA, but it's still not posted. :(
April 18, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST
I doubt it. Spurlock isn't exactly what I'd call an unbiased observer.
April 18, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST
Saw it at Sundance. It will make your brain bleed and your testicles shrivel.
April 18, 2008, 4 p.m. CST
by Darth Macchio
I wasn't saying anything regarding the addictive qualities of either. What I was referring to is how these choads like Spurlock and the "just got out of bed hair" teenager militant anti-smokers aren't telling anyone anything they either don't already know or couldn't find out with a cursory search. The difference being that cigs were sold back in the day as a valid appetite suppressant and they even had fake doctors saying, in essence, that this cigarette was healthy for you when the reality was it's only marginally *less dangerous* due to some flimsy filter. Of course that first cig always came with that lovely hacking cough which I'm sure no one would think is bad for you? So my point wasn't that fast food or cigarettes are or are not additcive. However, they both are *obviously* bad for you plus information relating these facts has been available longer than the guv has been enforcing nutrition labels, etc.<p><p><p>As for fast food being addictive? Links please. Forgive my skepticism but it sounds an awful lot like "I'm big boned" or "I weigh 300lbs cause it's genetic" or some other bullshit 'reason' for not marginalizing obesity within society or to allow the individual the semantic escape from the poor dietary choices he or she makes. PC-correct niceties aside...obesity and shitty diets are almost guaranteed the number one cause of death in the US. Talking about the addiction to fast foods as if it's equivalent to heroin or cigarette addiction...both *chemically* addictive...is likely to be pure pseudo-scientific bullshit. Culturally addictive? Why not right? Just about anything that gives the human animal pleasure or placebo is culturally/socially addictive. That aside, I'm not saying it isn't addictive for sure cuz I don't know...but unless you've got some known medical journals and physiology articles out of the blue somehow saying that fast foods or sugary junk food are now physically or chemically (not socially/culturally) addictive...I simply don't buy it...links please!<p><p><p>Did you realize that there is no clear cut case of someone dying from second hand smoke? That's right kids...the DEA report that all of the militant anti-smoker campaign causes of the supposed harm to innocent bystanders? Yup...complete bullshit. And even our own government has bought the hype based on a bullshit report with fabricated cases. Second-hand smoke is a nuisance...nothing more (tho I wouldn't blow smoke into an infants crib or anything!). And no...I'm not a smoker (I was) but I believe in the scientific method versus what some jackass like Spurlock has to say just cause he feels like opening up his pie-hole and vomiting his opinions on everybody in range.
April 18, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST
Rush Limbaugh can go suck a fat one (Harry's?). SSM was great, can't wait to see this one...just like SSM--on Lifetime. At 3AM. On a school night. Fucks ta all, y'all!!!
April 18, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST
You can set your watch by these idiots.
April 18, 2008, 5:07 p.m. CST
by Stevie Grant
It really troubles me how liberals have reduced "fascist" to a meaningless, mindless insult. I guess appropriation is the best way to dissolve an inherently, just-fucking-wrong, regardless-of-all-the-reasons-it-is-bad, term, into a defense nowadays. Right, nigga!
April 18, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST
by Darth Macchio
Arguing about how badly the other sucks without ever debating any actual issues. Do you guys think you'll actually change each other's minds? Or, more accurately, do you think you'll actually change each other's minds with the specific things you say here? Do you have arguments in the meat world like this too?<p><p><p>Regardless...it is occasionally fun to read. And forgive the fake/pretentious "above it all" tone...I do indeed have a say...it's just that, to me, it is the definition of 'pointlessness' trying to argue these things on an informal and anonymous forum which is about movies anyway! But that's just my opinion and I could be right.
April 18, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST
by Stevie Grant
I agree with you. Arguing politics with total strangers on an anonymous internet forum is very, very gay. I try to stay away from it, and occasionally succeed. That being said... I'll most likely fail later tonight and perpetuate total suckage on this TB forum.
April 18, 2008, 6:09 p.m. CST
In France you don't even have freedom of speech. Just ask Bridget Bardot.
April 18, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST
Bush said so
April 18, 2008, 6:19 p.m. CST
Only more of a hack.
April 18, 2008, 6:50 p.m. CST
by Stevie Grant
Bardot is on trial (again) for writing a personal, private letter to a politician that later got published. Sad thing is, I can see that sort of bullshit happening in the US within a decade or two.
April 18, 2008, 6:57 p.m. CST
weigh in when you have a good point to make. You're the example of reasonable, informed conservative thought round these parts, in my opinion. I try to avoid argument, rarely succeed, but thanks to folks like you the conversation stays somewhat sane. It's when people, (right or left) start calling people 'idiots' and 'fucktards', or when the stupidest conversation in the world fires up- the semantic bullshit circle-jerk of: "The Nazi's had the word socialist in their name, they must be liberals!" That everything falls to pieces. Uh-oh, I think I just opened the Pandora's Box of bullshit... <p> here we go...
April 18, 2008, 6:58 p.m. CST
April 18, 2008, 7:28 p.m. CST
How the hell did I deserve that, Morbid? I don't recall ever even speaking to you in the past. I guess you're one of those people who has actually made such an argument of that fallacy, and you're defending your position through insulting me? No offence to you personally, man, but if you have made this argument before, I have no sympathy for you.
April 18, 2008, 7:53 p.m. CST
Please come up with something different. You have made the same post several times. Nothing wrong with being conservative but a Limbaugh-worshipping dittohead is pathetic.
April 18, 2008, 8:27 p.m. CST
I mean 'can't take anything you say seriously.' <p> why can't we all just get along?
April 18, 2008, 8:32 p.m. CST
But you posted your real name--Darth Macchio. It's right there on every post you make, so that's hardly "anonymous." You blew it, boy! You really blew it!
April 18, 2008, 9:01 p.m. CST
by Darth Macchio
Battle Royale indeed!!! Serious is as serious does. Or not.<p><p><p>Darth Macchio is just my underground fighting circle tag. There's one guy...calls himself the Blade. Boris the Blade. I mean Boris the bullet dodger. As in he dodges bullets Avi.
April 18, 2008, 9:32 p.m. CST
by Stevie Grant
Darth Macchio has a golden idea... TB'ers fighting each other over political issues: BEST IDEA EVER (as long as George Sr. is there to tape said fights and market 'Boy Fights, AICN Edition' for the rest of our amusement).
that would kick so much ass (only in the metaphorical sense, obviously)
April 18, 2008, 11:13 p.m. CST
I'm not knocking your greater point, but just making a distinction between eating and smoking. I don't know much about eating disorders but I do know smoking involves both physical and psychological addictions. Not to put too fine a point on it, but every smoker knows how bad it is. But just knowing it's bad is not enough to permanently quit it, and I think organizations like truth do help by spreading information. Cigarettes kill a whole lot of people. Only a dysfunctional and immoral society would allow it to continue without at least trying to help people stop. <p> As for arguing politics on AICN, I've found it to be a fascinating forum, given the right TB, and there are a ton of well-informed people, from a great diversity of backgrounds, to learn from here. At least that's been my personal experience. Sometimes it feels like a Battle Royale, but that's a small price to pay for such a freedom of exchange here.
April 19, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST
Another interview with this guy about a documentary THIS VERY WEBSITE has ripped to pieces in the past. Yet not a single word anywhere about Ben Stein's documentary that came out in theaters yesterday?
April 19, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST
April 19, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST
You dont know what Freaknomics is? You must not... read much. I guess you have to be interested in politics. Freakonmics proves that Abortion (Roe v Wade) is what led to the huge drop in crime rates over the last couple decades. Abortion has a very postive impact on a country because it keeps single, poor, females from having babies they cant care for. And that lowers the crime rate, the welfare roles, etc.... Ill be curious to see if they cover that issue in the Freakonomics movie.
April 19, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST
by Stevie Grant
Levitt is a very famous economist because of studies like that, and generally respected in the field, but there are a lot of other economists who disagree with his process, figures, and results on his abortion paper (just like any given economic paper). It's been a while since I read the book, but, for example, I'm pretty sure he didn't take the 80's crack wars and resulting laws into consideration. His papers are interesting but saying he "proves" it might be a bit strong.
April 19, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST
by Stevie Grant
I must have confused you and Jarv
April 19, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST
by Mel Garga
the poor man's Michael Moore's intern.
April 20, 2008, 5:14 p.m. CST
And is being thought of as such by more and more people. Meaning its unfounded and racist pro-eugenics crap.
April 21, 2008, 12:05 a.m. CST
I saw it today. It's sleazy, manipulative, dishonet trash that couldn't possibly be effective with anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature. The Dwkins scene was a joke. Dawkins says that alien deigners are hypothetically possible (which they are), but that those aliens would still have to be a product of natural evolution, not magic. Stein tries to ridicule Dawkins for positibng a "science fiction" scenario when Dawkins was speaking purely rhetorically and obviously did nt express any actual belief in the alien scenario. What's lost on Stein and his imbecile target audience is that, as ludicrous as alien designers might sound., they're still not as far fetched as hypothesizing a magical fairy who lives in the sky.