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Greetings humans, Monki here with a report on one of the coolest assignments I've ever covered here at Ain't It Cool.

I'm sitting on a sofa at Rockstar Games. A pile of magazines sits in front of me with nothing but cover stories about Grand Theft Auto 4. Across from me is a row of arcade games. Golden Tee, some classics and a "The Warriors" arcade with 30 buttons on it. It seems that only 5 of these cabinets were made.

I sit and read through an EGM while NWA pumps in the lobby. I'm trying to calm myself down. How did I end up at one of the most popular developers in the world?? Soon enough, PR man Steve and the VP of Development (and a guy who helped create Rockstar) Jeronimo Barrera show up, shake hands, and whisk me in to a private room / theater with couches, a surround sound setup, a bigass HD TV and GRAND THEFT AUTO 4.

A little backstory for you. I've mentioned in some of my other articles how I was a huge gamer as a kid. The staff at Skaggs used to have to drag a chair over to the Ikari Warriors machine so I could see the screen while my parents went shopping. I was 5 and could easily outlast anyone who joined in cooperatively with me. From then I went to the NES and graduated to the SNES and Genesis like most kids of my generation.

Sometime around my freshman year of high school I hit super-nerdom and stumbled into the world of BBSes and made friends through the computer. (computer friends?) These encounters led to lan parties. At one of these lan parties, towards the end of a marathon Quake match someone brought out a new top-down racing/shooting game called Grand Theft Auto.

I fell in love pretty quickly. Sliding around corners in the cars, running over entire cults...it was all too much. I've been with the series since the beginning and I had heard nothing but good things about 4.

So here I am, getting to see the next great thing to come out of Rockstar and talking with one of the head guys in charge of the universe in which GTA exists.

Let me tell you...this game is fucking awesome.

We pretty much dove right in. Steve lead the way at first, showing off some of the cooler aspects of the game. He got to talking about your cell phone, which is pretty much the hub of your existence in GTA4. If you want missions, look to your phone, if you want to call a friend to bring you a weapon or a car, use your phone. If you want to jump on multiplayer, use the phone. (More on that later)

One of the cooler things about the phone was the ability to tag a song. You may have heard of Rockstar and Amazon teaming up to bring you the music from GTA4...your phone is the key to that exchange. If you hear a song on the radio you like, you dial a special number and a text message appears notifying you of the song title and artist. If you are a member of the Rockstar Social Club an email is sent to you with a link to your songs of choice on Amazon for purchase.

To me, THIS is what the next generation of games is all about. Connecting your virtual experience to a real-world experience...and Rockstar is doing this in spades.

The main character of the game is Niko, an Eastern European, ex-soldier who has come to Liberty City to meet up with his cousin Roman. Roman has talked of America and how he is living the good life in Liberty City. Of course, when Niko shows up, it turns out to be an enormous lie. Roman runs a cab stand and is in trouble with all kinds of seedy figures within Liberty City.

Steve started walking Niko through the city while he spoke to me about various features in the game...more music than ever...lots of Eastern European music that hasn't been released in America...very cool stuff. But perhaps the coolest thing I saw while he was playing was when he stopped touching the controller. Niko stood still while Steve was occupied with something and right there, a taxi got rear-ended by another car.

What followed was pure magic.

The cabbie and the guy who hit the taxi jumped out of their cars and approached each other. Once they got in to each others' face the fists started flying. Meanwhile, cars are honking for the two vehicles to get out of the way. The two keep slugging away and a cop pulls up. He jumps out with his pistol drawn and both men throw their hands to the sky, surrendering. The cop then drags the cabbie away (he punched first), puts him in the backseat of the cop car and drives off. The other driver returns to his car, gets in and pulls away.

Holy shit.

This whole routine was not staged...it just happened, and we were just there in the right spot to catch it all.

Stuff like that...subtle things, like bumping in to someone with your shoulder makes them give you a dirty look as they walk past...authentic dialects from all over the world...all of this makes this game excellent.

We kicked off a mission to pick up a character named Little Jacob. Jacob is a Jamaican friend of Roman's who deals with guns and smokes a lot of pot. While en route to a destination, Jacob started hotboxing the car. At this point I busted out a window in the vehicle and smoke started coming out. If the Devil is in the details then GTA 4 must be Satan himself.

I asked a lot of questions that couldn't be answered, but one of the cooler Easter Eggs was shown to me. Towards the end of one particular mission, Niko ends up next to a burnt-out and run down mansion...the Salvatore's mansion from GTA3. Pretty sweet little egg for us super-dorks who've played all the games. Jeronimo said there were more recognizable features in the game for long-time fans, but he didn't go in to details.

I played the single-player mode for maybe two hours at most, and I could write pages and pages about it all. The handling of vehicles feels more authentic now...the cab rides you can take to any point in the city...cars backfiring in the shittier areas of Liberty City...the water that looks so damn real...this game is so full of detail it is astounding. The gunplay in the game has been completely reworked and seems very similar to the locking-target style of shooting from Crackdown. There is also a cover mechanism you can utilize in tight situations. You can slide in to cover to protect yourself from incoming bullets...you can blindfire over cover to try to pick off enemies.

This game is so rich in detail...I have no idea how the hell they packed it all in to one single disc.

We took a short break after all this madness and then stepped in to the next room over where four Xbox 360s and four big-screen LCDs were lined up on a table. It was time to jump in to some multiplayer.

We were going to do some 4 on 4 matches with another group of Rockstar employees somewhere else in the building. There are a bunch of different multiplayer modes, but we were only going to check out a few of them. GTA4 supports up to 16 players online, but only through Live or the Playstation Network...there is no local multiplayer.

I created a character as the host set up the options. The creation is pretty simple...pick a head, a body, sex, outfit...the more you play and rank up, the more options you have to customize your character. Let me also say that the amount of options the host can set up are enormous. You can choose where you want to play within Liberty City, from a tiny area to the entire map. Of course, there are no invisible walls, so if you want to jump in a helicopter and buzz off to another side of the city, you can...but weapons and health only respawn in the area that is decided by the host.

You can tweak everything from pedestrians to traffic to police presence to time of day. Very customizable. We started out with good ole Team Deathmatch. As soon as we kicked off the match, Jeronimo told us all to meet him at the shore where he had stolen a boat. Eventually all four of us were being chased on the water by another boat full of Rockstar folks with rocket launchers and snipers...many laughs and swears were thrown about.

Another deathmatch started us off with nothing but rocket launchers at the airport. Again, we all jumped in to helicopters and buzzed our way towards the high-rises of downtown. I can't express to you how badass a rocket launcher fight is at the top of the Empire State building.

After deathmatching it up, we jumped in to what could be my favorite multiplayer gametype in GTA 4: Cops & Crooks. Cops & Crooks is just that, one group of cops, one group of baddies. The object of the crooks is to escort a "boss" (randomly selected) to an extraction point somewhere in the city. The crooks' map is marked with this location, but the cops do not show up. The cops on the other hand have the location of the crooks on their maps, but not the extraction point. What follows is a race to see which side can obliterate the other first.

During a round where we were the cops, Jeronimo pointed out a neat feature to me. If you aren't driving, but are in a car, you can set a way point for the driver. So, if you are a passenger with the cops heading towards the crooks, you can pop open the map from the menu and set a way point right on top of where the crooks are located. This then is seen by everyone in the car, including the driver. That way the driver never has to lose focus of what they are doing and everyone gets a chance to help out. Simple, but badass.

The cops definitely have the advantage in this mode...of the four rounds we played, none of the crooks managed to escape. This game type is awesome.

After that was the most obvious of multiplayer game types...the race...GTA style. Griefers are going to have a fucking field day with this one.

The host again gets to select the route and the class of vehicle everyone gets to start with (you choose specific vehicles within the class) and you proceed to race each other. Simple as that...except add a bunch of weapons and grenades in to the mix.

We kicked off our 8 player race in a park area of Liberty City. It was a figure 8 course with everyone in some pretty badass rides. What started out as a pretty uneventful blast through the park turned on a dime when one of the people in last place ditched his sports car for a city bus...and then parked it in front of a bottleneck. Gunfire and grenades ensued all while cars were trying to pound their way through the rest of the course.

This happened again on the next course through an airport...at a bottleneck one of the players jumped off his motorcycle and started building a roadblock...and murdered everyone that tried to get through. It was awesome. Oh yeah, and when you respawn, you spawn with a Faggio. The Vespa-like scooter. It is embarrassing.

The final mode we took a crack at was a cooperative mode called "The Hangman's NOOSE." Only four players could join in on the fun of cooperative play though.

The object is to escort an NPC mob boss from the airport to a set location within the city. There are absolutely no designated ways to do this...we went at it twice. The first time was pretty traditional, three of us fought off police officers while the fourth grabbed an armored vehicle and got the VIP in to it safely. We then all jumped aboard and fired at police while hauling ass through the city to the rendezvous point.

Our second attempt was a bit more action-movie-esque. We stalled the cops long enough to grab a helicopter and snatch the VIP...but one of us didn't make it and he had to jump on a motorcycle and haul ass with the police in tow. What followed was the chopper above the motorcycle with us trying to shoot at police cars behind him so he wouldn't get taken out before reaching the final destination. It was intense.

The multiplayer aspect of GTA4 is going to have people going berserk when this thing launches in a few weeks. Recently Rockstar updated their website to include all of the multiplayer modes and give you a peek at a few more characters. Go check it out...in fact the whole GTA4 site is pretty badass.

I could double the length of this article talking more about the game, it got me that jazzed...and I only played it for maybe three and a half hours. I'm hoping against hope to get my hands on a review copy of the game to check out the story...so we'll see about that.

Also, I've got another article heading your way where I talk with Jeronimo Barrera and relay the questions you guys offered me a couple of weeks ago. He's an interesting dude and I think you'll be happy with some of the answers he offers up.

To sum it all up...Grand Theft Auto 4 will beat the record set by Halo 3 for most single-day media sales in ANY form. At least...that is what I think. We'll all get a chance to see on April 29th when this beast hits shelves. I can't fucking wait.

Until then, back up the tree I go!

-Monki

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  • April 15, 2008, 9:10 a.m. CST

    Grand Theft Monki Paws?

    by jimmy rabbitte

  • April 15, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    RAD!

    by onefatman

    i'd totally buy a PS3/360 just to play that game. No scratch that - i WILL buy a PS3 just to play that mfkn game

  • April 15, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    Can't wait

    by chewyou812

    Game looks so sweet that I want to crap my pants.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    FUCK! fuck-fuck-fuck!

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    Jesus did I pick the wrong Spring/Summer to go overseas. (thinks about mountain of cash in bank) Whew.....ok, I'll play it sooner or later. FUCK!

  • April 15, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Cannot Fucking wait

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    I unfortunately had a 360 by the time San Andreas came out and I just couldn't play through it. It seemed archaic.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Amazing!

    by Gd00

    Great news, I just hope there aren't many differences between the xbox360 version anc the ps3 one. This game will go down in history, for sure. Can't wait!

  • April 15, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    question, Monki:

    by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet

    how will this be to folks who haven't played the other GTAs? can you just pick this up and play it, or will the learning curve be too fucked?

  • April 15, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    Cap'n Jack

    by Monki

    Actually, Skaggs was a grocery store like Albertsons and my father would stand by and watch me stomp my way through the jungles of Ikari.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:39 a.m. CST

    My Dad would stand by and beat me with a razor strap

    by moondoggy2u

    if I didn't split the wood properly.<p>I was raised before arcades.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:42 a.m. CST

    Gatsbys West Egg Omlet

    by Monki

    If you've played any GTA (from III onward) you shouldn't have any problem with 4. The only major mechanic change is with the gunplay, but the early stages teach you all the new techniques. (Gunplay, cover system, driving, etc.)

  • April 15, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST

    best game ever, folks

    by ArcadianDS

    you know it

  • April 15, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST

    if the devil is in the details...

    by ArcadianDS

    ...this game is Satan himself.<p> awesome line, Monki. Rockstar should put that on the box.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:44 a.m. CST

    I was left in arcades at 5 and 6 yrs old also

    by ArcadianDS

    because back in the early 1980s, you could do that. I also would ride my bike 2 miles to the mall and lean it against the side and it would be there when i came back out - and nobody shot anybody.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:45 a.m. CST

    Does it fixed the shittiness of other GTAs?

    by Maxer

    Namely graphical laziness, shooting, fighting and driving? If yes, Call of Duty 4 will collect dust for the next year or so.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:45 a.m. CST

    this game will be FUCKING AMAZING

    by Gungan Slayer

    cant wait

  • April 15, 2008, 9:47 a.m. CST

    10 Yard Fight = best arcade game ever.

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    Fact.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:48 a.m. CST

    Holy Monkey Jizz...I Can't Wait

    by HitchCock'n'Balz

    Wow

  • April 15, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Monki..Do you need an assistant?

    by HitchCock'n'Balz

    I want a J-O-B !!!!!!!!!!!

  • April 15, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    Harold Lloyd Levels

    by Aquatarkusman

    Fight a baddie while hanging from a clock tower!

  • April 15, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    hey Monki,

    by Gatsbys West Egg Omlet

    thanks.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Did you play the PS3 version Monki?

    by Cepper

    Or was it all 360's? I'm curious if there are any differences. And please, let's not let this TB devolve into a PS3 vs 360 battle. For once, let's just enjoy the hype, there's plenty to go around! Great preview Monki, sounds like everything Duke4Ever wanted to be.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    "THIS is what the next generation of games is all about." What,

    by Horseflesh

    If the next generation of gaming is about using the game to sell you things on Amazon you and me got VERY different opinions on a good experience.

  • April 15, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST

    Cepper

    by Monki

    I played the game on a 360 but I was told over and over that the difference in the two versions is trivial. Aside from the downloadable content (no date given yet), the two versions are damn near identical. In fact, Jeronimo had been playing the game on a PS3 because he told me at one point to hit the "circle" button instead of B.

  • April 15, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    Man, GTA IV is *TOTALLY* going to rape Iron Man's Box Office!

    by Squashua

    Yeah!

  • April 15, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST

    best arcade game ever =

    by doodah

    marvel vs capcom, clash of superheroes. ryu and war machine were unbeatable!!!!

  • April 15, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    This is the sole reason I purchased an Xbox 360

    by Buckys_Kick_Ass_Arm

    I have Mass Effect, Halo 3, Gears of War, RSV and Assassin's Creed. But I haven't played any of them for weeks because of my anticipation for GTA IV. This game will end my marriage.

  • April 15, 2008, 10:24 a.m. CST

    Cross Platform?

    by 111one111

    So he was playing on a PS3 while you were on a 360 in the same online match?

  • April 15, 2008, 10:31 a.m. CST

    Those screanshots look like ass...

    by m_reporter

    ... I mean the graphics and whats in them is real neat, but the framing is just horrendous. Reminds me of battlefield earth for some reason.

  • April 15, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    Maxer

    by lex romero

    The driving in the previous GTA games is some of the best arcade driving in any game. Just the right side of realistic but fun. <br><br> Agree about the shooting and fighting though but from what i've been reading they've been completely overhauled, new aiming systems, you can make use of cover, blind fire, aim at different body parts. The hand to hand combat has punch/kick/block buttons not just one button.

  • April 15, 2008, 10:45 a.m. CST

    OXM UK has the first printed review.

    by HorrorFan81

    They gave it a 10/10. This game will drink everyones milkshakes!

  • April 15, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST

    I try to be objective about GTA games

    by Leopold Scotch

    But I must admit, I'm getting very hyped for this one. I don't think there's a game being released this year that I want more than this.<br><br>At first I was confused as to why all the characters' faces look like those of claymation cavemen. But even as developers approach the peak of this generation, they'l always have to compromise. GTA 4 will have a huge amount of detail, and that means that some aspects of the visuals won't hold acandle to the likes of Gears of War, Call of Duty 4 and Bioshock.<br><br>But who cares about character models if the city looks that amazing?<br><br>The multiplayer also sounds fantastic, and my only concern is that I won't have enough people to play it with (I don't mind playin with strangers, but these things are always somuch better if it's a bunch of your pals online). I'm thinking a designated Xbox live night from May onwards. Dorky, but hella fun...

  • April 15, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    Hey Doodah, I bought a dreamcast for

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    Marvel vs Capcom. Then the 2nd one came out beating it by miles. I play it still constantly.

  • April 15, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Mass Effect is great

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks

    Call of Duty 4 owns alllllllllll.

  • April 15, 2008, 11:29 a.m. CST

    Captain Justice

    by HorrorFan81

    It WILL drink your milkshake! That's why I'll be sticking with smoothies after 4/29/2008. The game will rock. It's not even a question or a hope at this point. It simply will.

  • April 15, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST

    HOLY Shitzz Skaggs Alpha Beta

    by garcicr

    Dude the used to be next to Baskin Robbins 31 flavors, used to steal my GI Joes from there toy isle or when that was to risky would pull the price tag off a cheap .89 bouncy ball and put it over the 3.99 tag, but then the damn barcode thing would always foil my plans.........

  • April 15, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Squashua

    by SpencerTrilby

    as a big IM fan, I gotta admit that this game looks and sounds waaayyyy better in terms of pure artistic ambition. It saddens me, but I can't disagree. Expect a lot of video game adaptations to be greenlit come May 5th.

  • April 15, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    doodah - glad to see someone shared my favorite team-up

    by SpencerTrilby

    Ryu and War Machine were a truly invincible combo. <p> And NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks: the gameplay of MvsC2 was perhaps better, but the atmosphere of the first one (with its famous settings and musics) is second to none IMO. Ten years later I still play the first game, while the second one I only dust off if I wanna select an Iron Man/Ryu/War Machine combo; and preferably with the sound off (the "I'm gonna take you for a ride" cue gives me AIDS every time I hear it).

  • April 15, 2008, 12:15 p.m. CST

    If it fixes the aiming and fight mechanics

    by NeoMyers

    I'm sold. The multiplayer modes look incredible. I can't wait to get some friends into an armored car and have a gun fight while racing through the city. HOWEVER, if those two things are not fixed, it will be going back to the store within a day.

  • April 15, 2008, 12:28 p.m. CST

    I hated Vice city

    by disfigurehead

  • April 15, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    They've already lost this customer.

    by Reel American Hero

    The game was supposed to have been out in October. Since then I've discovered Saints Row, a far superior GTA type game, more stuff to do, slightly better graphics. And there's a sequal to that one on the way already. Oh, who am I kidding, I'll probably rent GTA IV just to try it out. But it'll have to be seriously impressive for me to consider buying it.

  • April 15, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    Politicians will call for the end of civilization

    by skimn

    as we know it on 4/29 in 3 .. 2 .. 1.. The constant driving from one end of town to the other was wearing me down by the time I played San Andreas. I think condensing Liberty City will be a plus for number 4. I simply can't wait to load this sucker. It ( along with the 360 only games) was the reason why I bought a 360.

  • April 15, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    Guess I should trade in my Super Nintendo...

    by Bobo_Vision

    ...for an XBox 360. I wonder how much credit I'll get towards an upgrade.

  • April 15, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    Between GTA IV and the new Metal Gear

    by SpencerTrilby

    coming both in the next few weeks, I really have to spill out the money and buy me some PS3. And a Full HD set. Eye surgery can wait.

  • April 15, 2008, 2:38 p.m. CST

    there should bet a GTA set in the 60s

    by Prossor

    i dont mean those 2D PC ones set in 61 or 69 london, i mean something set in 67 US/UK where youd have all of those colorful sports cars like the Aston Martin, lots of hippie killing and pot smoking...

  • April 15, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    How about GTA Future?

    by Leopold Scotch

    Like the city from Futurama or the fifth element.<br><br>I know a lot of people were disappointed weh number 4 was revealed as being liberty city again. Some were expecting a big departure.<br><br>I think there's still room for both types of game. I know there was a rocket pack in San Andreas but it wasn't as fun as it should've been. I'm talkin teleportation and flying cars here.

  • April 15, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    TOO MUCH CGI!

    by Multiplex

    just kidding.

  • April 15, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Sounds like GOTY material

    by MontyPigeon

    Hopefully it does live up to the hype surrounding it.

  • April 15, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    No, I want them to do Chicago next

    by Norm

    I would love to see GTA set in a stylized Chi-town. But for now, I just want to play 4, and I don't think it'll be boring at all that it's LC, because it's not the same LC, this is GTA in NYC.

  • April 15, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    well they did do a gta future

    by RealDoubleJ

    GTA2 but if you're talking a 3d version, then there has been speculation if the series continues. I'm wishing for some DLC content to resemble GTA: London but that's a pipe dream.

  • April 15, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    FUCK X-BOX!!! I WANT IT ON MY PC!!!!

    by random dude

    FUCK THEM!

  • April 15, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Do you HAVE to kill innocents and cops to beat this game?

    by Behemoth

    I gotta admit - I love violent games, and I love sandbox type games, but I have never played the GTA series, mainly because I have no interest in beating the shit out of women, killing cops, and running over pedestrians, even in a game. <p>What I want to know is, is it possible to play through this in single player mode and NOT intentionally kill innocents or cops? The game looks amazing, the graphics look great, etc., etc., but I personally could not enjoy it if the answer to the subject header is "Yes." I'd love to be able to play it where I wreak horrible vengeance on the scum of the city and avoid harming those who don't deserve to be harmed.

  • April 15, 2008, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Okay....time to give up the Vectrex.

    by uss cygnus

    Damn technology.

  • April 15, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Behemoth: the choice is yours

    by SpencerTrilby

    albeit it must take mad skills to beat a GTA without killing some cops or pedestrians. I don't remember any mission asking to do that (unless this was a crooked cop) but in the heat of the action sometimes you can't avoid it. <p> Personally I don't give a damn, but I see whre you come from. Anyway, given the virtual nature of GTA and the cathartic enjoyment taken from its nihilistic POV I wouldn't forbid myself to play it if I were you. Your call.

  • April 15, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Innocents and cops

    by FastEddie8139

    You didn't "have" to kill innocents and cops to win any of the earlier GTA games either, did you? Like SpencerTrilby said, sometimes bullets/bombs/cars get out of control and things happen, but to my knowledge there's never been an intentional need to kill innocents or cops aside from rampage missions that aren't required to complete the story.

  • April 15, 2008, 4:16 p.m. CST

    GTA:London

    by skimn

    There's an old PS2 game called The Getaway that could be considered GTA London. The scenery was pretty friggin realistic.

  • April 15, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    It Shall Owneth....

    by warghost

    There's no doubt that GTA4 will break all kinds of records. And I am sure it will live up to the hype. This game, and Mass Effect, are the reasons why I bought a 360.

  • April 15, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Monki, you're the first man to make me cum.

    by scudd

    Your article has me even more pumped up for this game than I was. Sweet Christ, this will be awesome.

  • April 15, 2008, 5:27 p.m. CST

    Without killing innocents...

    by Ckuouka

    I imagine it would take a great amount of skill to get through the game without killing anyone who is innocent, but I am guessing it can be done, just as you can beat any Metal Gear Solid game without killing a single enemy, including bosses. It's just a lot harder to do. I have this and Metal Gear Solid 4 reserved for my PS3 and I don't think there are any two games I'm more excited about for the rest of the year. Maybe Soul Calibur, but the Star Wars characters killed a little bit of my enthusiasm for that.

  • April 15, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    skimn getaway was too frustrating

    by RealDoubleJ

    i enjoyed it, i thought it was trying to be different from gta yet tipping the hat to their innovations...but goddamn i hated the controls on that game. Far too fidgety & driving the cars felt like maneuvering lead boxes. Enjoyed the recreation of London but what made GTA: London great was setting it in the 60's. Anything in 60's London is better! Don't believe me? Destroy All Humans 2 sets part of it there & for awhile it made that game fun...for awhile

  • April 15, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST

    "star wars characters killed my enthusiasm for that"

    by RealDoubleJ

    are you insane??! I wanna see how Yoda fights cause it better be as bitchass as it was in Episode 2! That's right, I actually love that little guy for being the sole justification of £5 spent on seeing that turdbag of a film. I mean, can you just attack him like normal? or can you only hit him with leg sweeps?! Vader I can understand being "blah" to because he's been in EVERYTHING but you can't tell me you're a little bit curious to see some Daggobah Demon Dancing (patent pending)

  • April 15, 2008, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Sounds awesome

    by Kovac

    Too bad that I live in NZ - We are getting the cut down Australian version. No idea what is being cut out, but it can't be good. Goddamn Australians.

  • April 15, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Dark Sector

    by Stalkeye

    yeah amny have dismissed it as a gears of war/RE4 clone, but the gameplay is more than that. boomerangs and guns a nice combination.Oh and the graphics are very impressive.GTA looks good but I'm holding out for MGS4.

  • April 15, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    Marvel VS Capcom 2

    by Stalkeye

    Capcom, up this shit to Xbox live arcade dammit but first, ditch the lame Jazz score. Make it mutha fukin so.

  • April 15, 2008, 6:54 p.m. CST

    F'in-A awesome!

    by SpiceWonBruce

    Can't wait.

  • April 15, 2008, 7 p.m. CST

    SpazmoCalrissian - about MGS

    by SpencerTrilby

    the sequels have a new weapon, a tranquilizer gun. And bosses have two separate life bars: one for life force, and the other for stamina (the latter being affected by the tranq gun, allowing the player who takes them down that way to get nifty bonus).

  • April 15, 2008, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Nice write-up

    by wash

    Very hyped for this. Haters can eat shit - if the game was pure multi-player it sounds like would worth the 60 easy.

  • April 15, 2008, 7:22 p.m. CST

    scudd

    by BadMrWonka

    you've never made yourself cum?<p>it's not hard (so to speak). you should try it.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:06 p.m. CST

    My copy has been pre-purchased since September...

    by Zardoz

    'Cause it was supposed to be released in Oct. Oh well, it looks like it was worth the wait! I guess I might actually have to buy an XBox live Gold account to play the multiplayer content. And the other game I'm looking forward to is "Star Wars: The Force Unleashed."

  • April 15, 2008, 9:32 p.m. CST

    it better sell more copies than halo 3

    by oceanic86

    because halo 3 is a mediocre, overhyped piece of shit, just like halo 2 was. seriously, anyone who still plays halo 3 online when there are far superior games available, like COD4 and team fortress 2, is an idiot. sorry, halo 3 fucking sucks. [p]GTA4, on the other hand, looks like a true evolution over the previous games, instead of just a gussied-up version of its predecessors. (did i mention halo 3 was and is an overhyped piece of shit that did absolutely nothing above what halo 2 did, aside from feeling even more stale and lazy?)

  • April 15, 2008, 10:05 p.m. CST

    Behemoth--

    by ZeroCorpse

    You DO know the innocent civilians in the GTA series are just collections of pixels, don't you? I mean, they're not really any more innocent than the "evil" collections of pixels. You aren't committing any immoral acts by killing a drawing of someone. <p> However, you don't have to kill innocents in any of the GTA games. It's up to you. Sometimes you get a crooked cop or soldier or politician, but if you don't want to kill the NPC civilians, you don't have to.

  • April 16, 2008, 12:54 a.m. CST

    damn

    by vaibhav

    gotta buy a PS3 just for this!

  • April 16, 2008, 2:36 a.m. CST

    there arent ENOUGH civilians to kill

    by Prossor

    i cant get enough of it, a thrill about killing unarmed lowly plebes ! almost makes me... cum... not-physically. hopefully they add in hospitals and other places with people so you can walk right in and..... order a meal.

  • April 16, 2008, 3:44 a.m. CST

    I played COD4 yesterday for the first time...

    by TimMighty

    ...i dont like it. Cant tell you what it is but i dont like it.Bought it Monday. I ordered GTA4 two mins ago. Damn what an expensive month that is.

  • April 16, 2008, 4:06 a.m. CST

    Sorry to hear it TimMighty, I'm a huge COD4 junkie

    by EvilGeek1

    Got a headshot with the w1200 and a guys cranium went all over the wall. It's very much going to be buried by GTA4 but for the mean time, it'll own me.

  • April 16, 2008, 4:17 a.m. CST

    yeah i mean, i get what you guys like

    by TimMighty

    ..at COD4 ..super real, nice fx and stuff but thats probably what i dont like. If it gets unreal like halo3 with unrealistic jumps and moves and sciFi weapons im in. But the maps that you get to play online are always the same so...hopes are high for GTA4 (and account low)

  • April 16, 2008, 4:25 a.m. CST

    Best game ever?

    by Kragmose

    By the looks of it, yes. I hope it is.

  • April 16, 2008, 4:38 a.m. CST

    You can easily finish the stories of GTA

    by Lost Jarv

    without killing civilians/ cops. <P>But there's no way that you can 100% them- rampages etc require you to slaughter civilians.

  • April 16, 2008, 5:54 a.m. CST

    Yoda is lame

    by Ckuouka

    I thought Yoda jumping around like he was having a seizure in Episode Two and Three was incredibly lame. I am glad I'm getting the PS3 version with Vader. While he's definitely an overused character, if I have to be stuck with a Star Wars character, I'd prefer it not be a little green muppet. As much as I don't want to see Star Wars mixed with my Soul Calibur, I'd definitely prefer having a force choke than just being some spinning green light saber. Both characters take me out of the story, though.

  • April 16, 2008, 7:33 a.m. CST

    Not starting the PS3 Vs 360 again...But

    by SKULL1138

    A lot of people saying they will buy a PS3 just for this game, well...why not buy a 360 then, bear in mind that this games has been working on 360's since October and rumour has it the delay was to get it working fully on a PS3, also if its just for this game you are buyingit, Id personally rather get the version that will have downloadable content <P> If you are hyuped about MGS4 then opf course you are going to ave to buy a PS3 although I believe it will come outlater for X box as they will need the extra sales of the game because there is not a huge PS3 market yet, but no guarantees there? <P> Peronally Gears of War 2 coming in November, Mass effect and Halo 3 (not my fave game by any means) are reasons enough to go with 360, but with GTA4 having extra content, its surely a hands down victory for me... <P> Unless you are hyped for MGS4 as GT5 is over hyped and wont be any bettre than Forza 2 and 3 will be along shorlty as well, they will just be waiting to see what GT5 does and then beat it slightly. Most of the fancy features mentioned for GT5 have been knicked from Forza 2 anyway... <P> If I hadthe money I'd buy them both, but any game thats out for both I wiould get for X box, simply because of achievements points a lone, it makes you strve to do tasks in games. <P> Not bashing, there are choices which is good, just that if you are only getting a console for this game...Why the PS3? <P> Dont start the PS3 and X box bashing please!

  • April 16, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Why start it

    by Kragmose

    When you just did?

  • April 16, 2008, 8:14 a.m. CST

    P3 vs. 360....

    by thewoodpecker

    X-Box doesn't come with the Blu-Ray, so that's why people would buy one over the other.

  • April 16, 2008, 8:18 a.m. CST

    Skimn - The Getaway...

    by BiggusDickus

    ...was very pretty, but played like a horse's arse. I'd be well up for a 60's London GTA, though! The story's already there in real life. They were called the Kray twins...

  • April 16, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST

    ps3 pisses all over xbox

    by christophermoltosante

    state your case otherwise.

  • April 16, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    ps3 pisses because

    by ArcadianDS

    its an incontinent old fart that cant get to the toilet in time.

  • April 16, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Ckuouka...both characters take you out of the story?

    by HitchCock'n'Balz

    That game is boobs and and punches...is they're really a story? Did Link or Spawn fuck the story up for you? Do you really think Yoda can't throw a fuckin force choke? Are you trying to tell me that Jesus Christ can't hit a curve ball?

  • April 16, 2008, 11:23 a.m. CST

    Can you use the bathroom in the game?

    by Cisco Dyke

    Nevermind, I just shit in my real pants.

  • April 16, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    GTA 5 In Green Bay, WI

    by The Winged Doucheman

    I want to have fucking shoot outs in the end zone of Lambeau field and take that shit outside to the Stadium View bar while its snowing and cars are sliding all over the place. One of the missions can be to deliver meth to the trailer parks on the North side of the city while drunk on Lienenkugels.

  • April 16, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    GTA: london already exists...

    by oceanic86

    it was an add-on to the original GTA game. OMG U R TEH N00BZ

  • April 16, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    If I was going to buy a ps3 anytime soon

    by bottombrick

    It would be for MGS, Hideo Kojima is the greatest workng game designer. GTA4 would be a nice perk though.

  • April 16, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Skull1138

    by Ckuouka

    First, Metal Gear Solid 4 isn't coming out for 360. Hell, they are packing it in with the PS3, starting in June. And if you're going to go on about sales, the 360, which has had a year headstart on the PS3, has sold 18 million units, worldwide, last time I checked. The PS3 is at 11 million. If it continues to sell the way it has, and it's beat the 360 in sales EVERYWHERE for the last two months, then by 2009, it'll outsell the 360. I'm not getting into a system war with people. If they like the 360, they can like the 360. I'm not going to go into which system is better, because most of us feel whichever system we own is the better one. But the whole "poor PS3 sales" thing is a thing of the past. Not to mention, Rockstar has confirmed the PS3 will be getting its own downloadable content for GTA IV. Jeronimo Barrera, in the May edition of PlayStation World Magazine, confirmed it. It might be different content than the 360 version (much like how Soul Calibur IV has exclusive characters for each system), but it's still getting DLC. I will say, though, that I'm not into racing games at all, so Grand Turismo 5 means nothing to me. God of War 3, Warhawk, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Disgaea 3, and Metal Gear 4 do. Not to mention I don't like paying for my online service.

  • April 16, 2008, 6 p.m. CST

    More Hideo Kojima love

    by SpencerTrilby

    I dig where this thread is going. <p> Oh, and thanks for the heads up about the downloadable content for the PS3 version of Grand Theft Auto Ckuouka. I was hoping they'd create something exclusive for the Sony crowd as well.

  • April 17, 2008, 9:12 a.m. CST

    Fuck MSG

    by HitchCock'n'Balz

    There I said it...could it be any more boring? No. That it could not.