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CLONE WARS theatrical trailer hits the nets - where oh where is the Quicktime HD!

Hey folks, Harry here... Just got this sent in from "Dean" - who has sharp eyes on the infinite realm of YouTube - and caught this. The theatrical trailer for CLONE WARS, coming this summer. This looks very fun. I have to say, in some ways, this is the Summer film I'm most curious about. If it works - we're going to have a blast with the animated series that this film launches. Here - check it out...






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  • April 12, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    first!

    by mmaddox3

  • April 12, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST

    literally looks amazing!!!!

    by mmaddox3

    that looks freakin great, it cant come soon enough!!!!!

  • April 12, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Actually looks like fun

    by SkiBum

    I think Star Wars will lend itself well to animation.

  • April 12, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST

    well.

    by Dollar Bird

    That looked pretty good. My lone hope is that they get Jabba's voice right, not like the messed up, no resonance voice they used in the special edition. (What a geeky nit-pick.)

  • April 12, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    ...okay

    by Stevie Grant

    that looked like a shitty video game trailer

  • April 12, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST

    something new

    by matchesmalone2380

    with the movies now over, and "fan boys" in movie release hell, this has something for star wars fans to look forward to.

  • April 12, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST

    looks good...but at the same time...just don't care anymore

    by future help

    Long live Genndy!

  • April 12, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    wow wow wow!!!

    by ABking

    LOOKS BAD ASS!!!

  • April 12, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    why dont we move the stoy forward

    by madman23

    it looks cool but the story's gonna suck. why dont they do a film where the cover the gap between ep 3 and 4??? instead of reguritating ideas?wasnt there a clone wars on cartoon network? oh and uhh a movie too,so now we have 3 clone wars?

  • April 12, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    another thing...films lack when there is no real threat

    by future help

    to the characters. (Matrix suffered the same thing in 2 and 3)

  • April 12, 2008, 2:34 p.m. CST

    Cartoon Network

    by maverick2078

    I liked the 2d version, aside from the somewhat annoying running time for the episodes, but I guess as long as they're adding to the story...any word on a KOTOR III?

  • April 12, 2008, 2:35 p.m. CST

    I'd see it...

    by codymr

    But why was this not the tone and story used for the live action prequels. This looks darker and shows the republic fleet in more detail (ie the imperial/old republic Star Destroyer commanders).

  • April 12, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    madman...

    by BizarroJerry

    This theatrical release is basically the pilot episode for the animated series that will follow soon after on TV. And in, maybe 2010, there'll be a live action series set between Eps 3 and 4. I'm not sure if you knew that, but it's a reminder, anyway.

  • April 12, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Looks like a crappy CGI console game.....

    by Modtel

    But the fanboys will still cream there pants as it star wars......the ultimate geek money making franchise.

  • April 12, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Star Wars needs to disappear for awhile until we really miss it.

    by Flim Springfield

  • April 12, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    I'd see it...

    by codymr

    But why was this not the look and feel of the prequel trilogy? This seems to show the republic/imperial fleet in more detail (ie: you see the Star Destroyer naval commanders etc). I think this is more in line with what the fans were expecting out of the live action prequels.

  • April 12, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    Looks well done, but why should we care?

    by JunoFallon

    We know how this whole portion of the story ends up. Why would we want to watch all of these characters interact when this story arc has been closed up? They should have done something between episode III and IV. What a waste.

  • April 12, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    Best Prequel trailer EVER!

    by Banshee7

    All the haters can go smoke a penis.

  • April 12, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Fucking AWESOME!

    by ABking

    Lucas knows how to milk his baby!

  • April 12, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    So fucking bored of Star Wars

    by judge dredds fresh undies

    I cant even watch the originals now.

  • April 12, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Lucas got his wish

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    He never has to deal with a real actor ever again.

  • April 12, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST

    O NO! NOT JABBA'S SON!

    by Rufferto

    How could those bastards kidnap Salacious Crumb!? Certainly the galaxy will now tremble at the prospect and we will truly see a Star Wars "We have never seen before." But seriously, Gimme a friggin break. Enough with the Clone Saga already. I wanted to See Darth Vader.

  • April 12, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Huummmm. OK

    by Gabba-UK

    And I NEVER, EVER, thought I'd have that kind of reaction to some new Wars action. Shit. I must be getting old....

  • April 12, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST

    Just me or was that NOT Frank Oz?

    by TheSeeker7

    Seriously, they can get Sam Jackson back to reprise the voice for his character, but Frank friggin Oz is way too busy to stand in a booth for a couple days to do his Yoda??

  • April 12, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    I also don't care

    by exie

    Lucas fucked up the movies so badly that these are pointless. I have zero desire to see this. They will not be getting anymore money out of me. Lucas' poor execution in the prequels makes this exercise (I refuse to call it a movie) less interesting than it could be. He really bungled the whole fucking thing up. I know he thinks all the money and box office justifies him, but he made 3 really shitty movies that have stunted the franchise. I actually sold the prequels on ebay because I knew I would never have any desire to watch them again they were so disappointing. All this feels like is more of the same garbage we were forced to injest and I wish he would stop trying to milk out money from this dead horse and give it up. The prequels lost all connection to the original trilogy and have splintered the feeling that we all once had for this. The prequels were all wrong. Note for note, wrong. It doesn't feel seamless or complete. It feels more disjointed than ever. What a shame, because if he weren't a lazy writer who really cared about the myth's he claims he cares about, the prequels could have been a dark epic trilogy that made our jaws dropped. The decision to use robot armies in the battles was a joke. There are no stakes when you are fighting rickety looking robot computers. The clone wars, in my mind as a fan, always meant some evil genius cloned the Jedi's and had the clones fight the people they were cloned from. The amount of chaos and skulduggery that could have occurred with that track instead of the robots into Jango Fett track is enormous. A complete disappointment and I can say sincerely that Star Wars has seen my last dollar. I don't think I'm alone and I think this cartoon will flop at the box office.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:03 p.m. CST

    Hmmm...not sold yet

    by buffywrestling

    I guess they're not really targeting me though....I don't buy toys - and everythng looks really, really toylike. However, it does sound great.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST

    Sound and fury: signifying nothing

    by danowen

    If this had come out in 2001, or even 2004, I'd be more excited. I known ol' Lucas is getting older now, but Star Wars really needs to rest for about 10 years before CGI/TV branches of the universe start up. I think these things will be fun to watch, but people are just fed-up with SW now. It has nothing new to say (especially with Clone Wars events having to fit with Episode III), and I sort of doubt a TV series between EpII and IV will capture the imagination without Luke/Vader involved.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    Mysterious Yobo

    by Stevie Grant

    Is a perfect example of when TB baiting is completely justified. What's even more damning for Star Wars is... no one has taken the bait yet.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    danowen

    by Stevie Grant

    What is "Sound and Fury: signifying nothing" a quote from? It rings a bell, but I can't place it.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:10 p.m. CST

    What's the subtitle language, Klingon??

    by Squashua

    Seriously.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Visually looks exactly like the prequels

    by InspectorDoppler

    Except the acting looks less stiff in this. Bahhh

  • April 12, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Truly this is the year of the geek...

    by NubtheSquirrel

    Starting off the summer with Iron Man, Indy and Narnia, and capping it off with some Star Wars. Let's hope that every single one of these movie does not suck.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    I actually prefer this movie...

    by PirateEmery

    ...over the prequels. They should have made movies based on the Clone Wars since the beginning! It's called Star WARS for a reason.<p> In my opinion, 1-3 should have covered the Clone Wars, as 4-6 covered the Civil War.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    When Lucas dies.....

    by SlickyVonBoner

    They should do a prequels reboot... Seriously. Episode I introduces Anakin in his angry teens not his toddler years. Episode II STARTS with the clones wars and ends with Anakin giving in to the darkside. Episode III deals with the Jedi Purge and the final duel with Obi vs Anakin and the birth of Darth Vader. Also the Palpatine/Sidious thing would have to go... Why would you control 2 armies and have them fight each other when you could just control the galaxy with both? Get some of the best directors and writers on it and you have a kick-ass prequel trilogy.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST

    Be patient

    by scooterbuch

    The future of SW is on TV in live action and 3d animation. Yes, this Clone Wars cartoon will cover some new material. Yes we all know how this story ends. Yes, most of us will still watch, and when the live action series comes out we will be more excited. Untill then, Clone wars 2.5 will give us Star Wars junkies our fix.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Warner Brothers???

    by photoboy

    How can a Star Wars film start without the 20th Century Fox fanfare? <br><br> Also, how come the only one they've paid to do a voice is Anthony Daniels? Surely Hayden Christensen isn't very expensive?

  • April 12, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST

    Looks pretty good.

    by BLEST

    Prequel problems aside, I'll probably be there on opening weekend to see it, because it's star wars on the big screen. As will most of you, I'm sure.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST

    We have to let it go...

    by The_General

    Seriously. Us old-school, die-hard, Star Wars fans have to accept the fact that George doesn't care about us anymore (if he ever did). He's pandering to a new demographic now and we need to step aside and let him sell his toys. Modern day Star Wars will never hold the same fascination and magic that the original trilogy held. Ever. Period. At least we can count ourselves lucky that we were there at the beginning, when it actually meant something.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Team America, Star Wars?

    by BadMrWonka

    am I the only one who can't look at Anakin without thinking "Durka durka, mohammed jihad!"???<p>that blank, stupid puppet look is hilarious. and it didn't work for Hayden Christiansen either, did it?

  • April 12, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    BizarroJerry

    by MikeTheSpike

    That was maybe the most polite, helpful comment I've ever seen anyone give on this site. Watch it.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Talk about small universes and milking the cow

    by CeejayNightwing

    Jabba's Son? Anakin and Jabba's son? Does anyone get off Tattooine? This planet has gone fromthe furthest most unimportnat center of the universe to the very center of everything in Star Wars. Stop milking this stuff George, it's lost its legendary status, lost its mythical status and it's close to losing all respect it ever had even from the new fans.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    theatrical?

    by kafka07

    you don't actually mean for theaters...do you? In any case, this looks good.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    theatrical?

    by kafka07

    you don't actually mean for theaters...do you? In any case, this looks good.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Enough Already!

    by slave to the one

    Remember when Star Wars inspired enormous feeling of respect and nostalgia? Of wonder and amazement? Remember everytime it came on HBO, you stopped what you were doing and gazed in excitement at the action taking place on screen in a galaxy far far away? And now do you remember when Lucas first raped your memories and made Greedo shoot first, or gave us a CGI Jabba? Well 11 years later and Lucas is still raping us, and not even using any lube! I say, no means no and we're not going to take it anymore. I've wasted my times with the prequels which gave us 2 shitty movies and a marginally entertaining one. And now we get this horribly sheap looking CGI story about the kidnap of Jabba's son? I so, fuck you Mr. Lucas, I'm in charge here!

  • April 12, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Wow. This looks pretty fantastic.

    by kungfuhustler84

    I like that it's not too stylized (except what the hell is going on with Count Dooku's squishy face?) like the cartoon was. The jedi look a bit more grounded and less super-dooper human. My excitement for Star Wars has lessened a bit since the series was complete (it's over already George) but I think this is still something I can definitely enjoy. the plot line with the Hutts sounds pretty interesting.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Jabba's son?

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Gimme a break.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Star Wars Complete Saga for Nintendo DS

    by wilsonfisk89

    ...is great, great fun. If anyone owns a ds here, I would strongly suggest picking it up. Play through all six films, use the force, custom characters, kick ass playble Grevious, good times. Oh, and huge replay value.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST

    I'd rather see 3 epilouges

    by dr sauch

    than this. this is just stupid.

  • April 12, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    I think anakin had a bigger problem with Watto...

    by kungfuhustler84

    and the SAND PEOPLE!!!! Why are some people having a problem with Jabba's son? You don't think he gets some? I just hope the Jabba's son character doesn't become one of those annoying tag-along helpless, loudmouth child characters. *shudder* like that kid in Six String Samurai. Anybody else ever see that? total classic with the Buddy Holly samurai protagonist and the Slash nemesis with the archer dudes

  • April 12, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST

    maybe anakin kills the son, and pretends he couldn't save it

    by ironic_name

    but that would be slightly cool, and so george wont do it.

  • April 12, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    Yeah I seriously doubt

    by kungfuhustler84

    Anakin is just all, "Sure I'll save your son!!" I'm sure there was some sort of inner turnoil with helping the thing responsible for his mother's enslavement.

  • April 12, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    coming soon to toysrus.. tatooine SAND!

    by ironic_name

    $14 for an once of sand! <P> some sad cunt will buy it.

  • April 12, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST

    thanks leobloom

    by Stevie Grant

  • April 12, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    In Hutteese: "Hey Jabba, Remember me?"

    by Demonoid

    You slept through my damn podrace you fat dick! Hope they get his voice correct. Special edition Jabba was crap, especially his voice, and his Hutteese was a bunch of silly sounding gobbledy-gook!

  • April 12, 2008, 4:15 p.m. CST

    looks great

    by newc0253

    can't wait to see it.

  • April 12, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Do this with KOTOR

    by Anakin Whoopass

    The first KOTOR game was liberating because moving the setting 4,000 years freed it from the plot constraints of the Skywalker canon. Why visualize the Clone Wars for basically the third time? As for this trailer, not good. Poor composition, total lack of drama. I'd like to see another KOTOR game too, but only if BioWare does it, and I have a feeling EA would rather keep BioWare busy with a Mass Effect series because they don't have to share with LucasArts.

  • April 12, 2008, 4:24 p.m. CST

    Looks...

    by SG7

    ...jsut as sucky as the movies, but with a cartoon. Yay. No HD trailer could make this better. We've seen this all before.

  • April 12, 2008, 4:27 p.m. CST

    oh yes!

    by Jeremy_Cox

    fuck-king-sweet

  • April 12, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST

    Excuse to sell toys #50,125

    by alienindisguise

    Lucas is stuck on the damn clone wars like Cameron's stuck to the fucking Titanic. As far as the animation goes, it looks like TMNT only a little bit worse actually. Lame

  • April 12, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    "See Star Wars like you've never seen it before"

    by MontyPigeon

    I already have. It was called the prequels which ar now known as "Star Wars the SHIT version."

  • April 12, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    clone of which war?

    by alice 13

    so confusing. i hate clones. DOESNT LUCAS GET IT THAT HE GAVE AWAY THE ENDING 25 YEARS AGO? why keep watching this story?

  • April 12, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    CG 7,8,9.

    by PirateEmery

    George, the fans have spoken.

  • April 12, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Polish subtitles

    by useless_ass

    Has anyone noticed that this trailer is in polish. For the first time in history we (The Poles:) have something before anyone else in the world, cinematicly speaking. That makes me feel quite proud. All Polish AICN regulars, make yourself visible! We are a 40 000 000 million nation, start treating us with respect! Cheers!

  • April 12, 2008, 5:14 p.m. CST

    Looks good for tv, cheap for cinemas

    by Evil Hobbit

    .

  • April 12, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Clone Troops Voice?

    by Antz

    They couldn't find someone with a genuine Kiwi accent? That sounds as awful as when Meryl Streep tried out an Aussie accent... "A dingo sole my baby!"

  • April 12, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    JABBA'S SON

    by Gungan Slayer

    SHIT, Just shit. The rumors were true. WTF. I hate this bullshit how like every character is interconnected with each other. What, galaxy not big enough or something? Why does Obi-Wan have to come in contact with Jabba? Why did he fight Jango Fett and meet Boba? The same Boba that captures another one of our heros, Han Solo. Who just happens to have a bounty on his head placed by Jabba the Hutt. Han's friend, Chewie, who fought in the Clone Wars and met the master Yoda. The same Yoda that trained Luke and co. See where I'm going with this?

  • April 12, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Jabba's son was kidnapped....

    by Loosejerk

    by the bounty hunter with all the sweet pimp moves: Grando Calrissian. He's gonna chop that son-of-a-slug down with his twelve inch black lightsaber...with balls.

  • April 12, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Fool me once, shame on George. Fool me twice, time to grow up.

    by bluraymondchandler

    This looks like some serious make-some-money on recasts of Episode II toys bullshit. Can't wait.

  • April 12, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    To Star Wars fanboys

    by random dude

    Being gay is a choice.

  • April 12, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    Once I saw "Mrs. Jabba" in The Phantom Menace...

    by Pizza The Hut

    ...it was all over for me.

  • April 12, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST

    NO....ONE....CARES....ANY...MORE.

    by uss cygnus

    You and Jar-Jar, "Now THIS is podracing", "Obi-Wan is Holding me back!!!" and "Nooooooooooo!!!!" killed Star Wars, Luca$. Either Advance the story through 7-9 or let it die. Go count your countless millions, you HACK.

  • April 12, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Can anyone explain what the "wars" were about in the prequels?

    by The Wolf at the Door

    TPM - trade dispute ... right? What, the "Trade Federation" wanted to impose tariffs on Naboo, or something? Which launched a war? The embargo? <p> ATOC/ROTS - ???? What are they fighting about? Who wants what and why? Forget Palpatine for a second ... what the hell is anyone else fighting about? Some planets want to break away from the Republic? Or, they want to defeat the Republic, take it over? <p> Aside from the horrible writing, the kindergarten humor, the plastic look to all the cgi, etc., the problem I had with the sequels is that I didn't have a clue what the hell everyone was fighting about. If someone can explain it to me (without using throw-away explanations like "the Trade Federation was evil" or "they wanted more power" or, um, "they hate us for our freedom"), I'd appreciate it. Who (besides Palpatine) who wanted what why?

  • April 12, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Steviegrant

    by IndustryKiller!

    It's a quote from Macbeth.

  • April 12, 2008, 5:44 p.m. CST

    If someone snagged it, please repost...Thanks

    by Underoos Hero

  • April 12, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Hardly a far corner of the galaxy any more

    by Dreamfasting

    Now a backwater Hutt is a threat to the entire Republic? What happened to "well, if there's a bright center to the universe, you're on the planet that it's furthest from"? *feels pangs of sorrow as original mythic memories fade ever further away*

  • April 12, 2008, 6:04 p.m. CST

    VIVA LA RESISTANCE!!!!!

    by Darth Dean

    http://www.youtube.com/v/_t8IO3O-YxU

  • April 12, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    My first memory as a child is of Darth Vader...this shit sandwic

    by namasteandgoodluck

    What the fuck is this garbage?!? The Clone Wars cartoon was vastly superior to this fucking bullshit. George Lucas has no artistic integrity or talent; i guess it was all just a fluke. Lets face it, the Empire Strikes back is the best out of the original 3 and George "Gotta Eat" Lucas didn't even direct that film; a real director with real talent did.I'm thinking lucas probably stole the idea from someone or a group of people came up with it 'cause good ole George's "vision" is like Spinal Taps "Shark Sandwich"...shit sandwich!!!! Hopefully this leaks like ROTS did and hits the net before release!

  • April 12, 2008, 6:08 p.m. CST

    Link is bullshit darth dean

    by namasteandgoodluck

    douchebag

  • April 12, 2008, 6:12 p.m. CST

    They took it down that fast?

    by Darth Dean

    Seriously, I just uploaded it 5 mins ago and it worked. Damn.

  • April 12, 2008, 6:19 p.m. CST

    SteveGrant

    by namasteandgoodluck

    The monarch from the Venture bros said it as well.

  • April 12, 2008, 6:21 p.m. CST

    shut the helj up!

    by useless_ass

    firrst! If you read or post Talkback on AICN than you're a Geek. I am one, you are too! You may talk shit but you'll go and see this movie. Admit it! I hated Episodes I and II but still I saw the first midnight screening of Episode III. Star Wars don't make much sense, so what!?! You still get a hard-on every time something new comes out. Be honest!

  • April 12, 2008, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Franchise Wars: Revenge of the IRS

    by namasteandgoodluck

    Anyone ever see that Simpsons episode about Lucas and Star Wars? Jim Jam? Jim Jam means cum, sperm, splooge, jizz which is what George is swallowing every night cause he's gone faggot on us. I'd rather watch Van Helsing than ever watch this bullshit.

  • April 12, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    I got that much, gotham_night

    by The Wolf at the Door

    And only that much. But you don't get by in History 101 saying "the South was fighting the North, that's what the Civil War was about." <p> The sentence is technically accurate, but do you see my problem here? <p> What the hell were the Separatists fighting the Republic about? What, they wanted to Separate? And the Republic wouldn't let them? Was that what was happening? And if so, who the hell cares? Tattoine apparently wasn't part of the Republic, and no one was tearing their hair out over that in the movie. <p> If it's "quite easy to follow," fine okay, then explain to me what the Separatists' beef was. What, they didn't get the tariffs they wanted from Naboo, so it's go time?

  • April 12, 2008, 6:32 p.m. CST

    prequels show Palpatine as a true hero!

    by Prossor

    this guy was the only one i was rooting for in the whole of the prequels. everyone else were either: stiffass, mopey, whiney shitheads. liam neeson was the exception but this is shindler after all. everyone else deserved to lose for being such total idiots. palpatine/sidious barely had to lift a finger to turn anakin to the darkside. they screwed his head so much i mean really they couldnt grab his mom along too? then after she's on the wrong end of a tusken gangbang the council pretty much tells anakin to go fuck himself. then theres the council saying do this dont do that, youre the one but you suck and cant be a jedi knight, you can/cant be on the council, or how about hey lets have the horny young padawan protect the hot young queen guys! good idea! i bet everytime palpatine resided to his senate chambers he laughed his wrinkled old nuts off at how easily he was handed this super kid on a platter. all he did was act humanistic and presto new dark apprentice. the republic brought it upon themselves for growing so decadent and fat on their own power, theres another allusion of rome falling for you fellas. ROTS was a happy happy ending!

  • April 12, 2008, 6:36 p.m. CST

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    by Darth Dean

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  • April 12, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    namasteandgoodluck

    by odo19

    You know Irvin Kershner made Robocop 2, right?

  • April 12, 2008, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Wolf at the Door

    by Chishu_Ryu

    I think Lucas deliberately keeps things vague and confusing so that enquiring minds such as yours might be coerced into buying the movie novels for more answers, which means more money for Darth Lucas and his Evil Empire. But if you must know, in Phantom Menace, the greedy Trade Federation is pissed because the Republic has taxed outlying trade routes (which means less money for them and their friends), and blockades/invades Naboo in protest, all under the influence of Darth Sidious. This leads to the battle on Naboo. In ATOC & ROTS, the greedy Trade Federation essentially joins the greedy Separatist Galaxies (again, it's all about the excessive taxation of trade routes, which means less money for them, this is what started the American Revolutionary War), and a Galactic Civil War, aka the Clone Wars, ensues. Of course, all the fighting and wars and such are a Phantom Menace because Sidious is playing both sides as the leader of both with the ulterior motive of creating a Galactic Empire run by the Sith and wiping out the Jedi. Comprende?

  • April 12, 2008, 6:55 p.m. CST

    Wolf at the Door

    by sarsy

    Tattooine is located in the middle of nowhere and has no resources to speak off. The Seperatists included many integral mid-rim planets that were of great economic importance.

  • April 12, 2008, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Wait, here we go!!!

    by Darth Dean

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSHmu5unqqY

  • April 12, 2008, 7:03 p.m. CST

    That looks terrible.

    by henrydalton

    Oh, and "Tattooine is located in the middle of nowhere and has no resources to speak off. The Seperatists included many integral mid-rim planets that were of great economic importance." ...Just... wow.

  • April 12, 2008, 7:08 p.m. CST

    So they were fighting over taxes

    by The Wolf at the Door

    Is that it? I'll buy it, if that's all there is ... but my God, would it have been so hard to at least give the sides a slogan? "Remember the Alamo"? "They can take our land, but they can never take ... OUR FREEDOM!" <p> Something like that? <p> I think they need to add in a scene in ANH where Obi Wan says to Luke, "Yeah, probably about ten billion people died in the Clone Wars, give or take a planet." <p> "Really?" <p> "Oh yeah, everyone went ape shit, killing each other everywhere." <p> "Huh, what was that about again?" <p> "Oh, some people thought taxes were too high or something, and the other people were like, 'Screw you!' and started making clones. Then the centuries-old Republic fell, all the Jedi were killed, and the Empire came to power. Apparently, some people don't like taxes." <p> "Oh ..."

  • April 12, 2008, 7:17 p.m. CST

    George Lucas became a dripping...

    by poeticwarriorII

    shriveled twat when his wife left him and he's never recovered from it. Those prequels were complete shit made for retards and kids under 13. This looks more like a commercial for side show VCD's instead of fucking Star Wars. In other words, more of the same limp dick horse shit.

  • April 12, 2008, 7:25 p.m. CST

    Actually, if u think about it, Wolf...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    ...it was mostly the Clones and the Droid Army who did most of the fighting and dying...

  • April 12, 2008, 7:26 p.m. CST

    Hey Yack, finally a Prequel we'll like:)

    by ganymede3010

    And that's because Lucas didn't write or direct it! Booyaa!!

  • April 12, 2008, 7:36 p.m. CST

    namasteandgoodluck

    by Stevie Grant

    Nice, I had completely forgot about the Monarch saying that. Good memory.

  • April 12, 2008, 7:50 p.m. CST

    This is 2 years too late

    by performingmonkey

    Surely I can't be the only one who doesn't want to hear or see another thing from the Clone Wars era, whether it be comics, EU books, movies, series'??? The only time the Clone War has been cool was when Obi-Wan mentioned it in A New Hope. Little did everyone know back then that it would turn out to be mediocre CG bullshit. Now I'm NOT judging this CG series before I've seen it, but I just want to clarify how old asshat this whole affair now is!! Bring us the live action series and Episode VII (directed by someone good)

  • April 12, 2008, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Is this for the PS3...

    by zombie_buffet

    ...or Xbox360? Either way, it looks like it might be a fun game - though I'd hate to have to sit and watch someone else play it...

  • April 12, 2008, 8:02 p.m. CST

    To be honest...

    by poeticwarriorII

    I'm really not interested in seeing anything else from Lucas and Star Wars. He would only fuck up Ep. VII so bad it would be unwatchable so there's really no use at this point. The last 3 cartoons that fucker shit out looked so fucking fake at times you just had to laugh. Couldn't the lazy bastard be bothered to make a couple of suits of armor and a set or two?

  • April 12, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    zombie_buffet...

    by poeticwarriorII

    You hit the nail on the head. All that money and this is the garbage he releases.

  • April 12, 2008, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Why does everyone here have to be so bitchy?

    by THT3000

    I personally have not seen the trailer but these comments here are crazy. The prequels were fine. They all got okay or good reviews. The only ones that hate them with such unnatural passion are the goddamn fanboys. The words you are looking for are "different" and "flawed". Also I don't understand why people are complaining about there being more Star Wars shows on the way. There can never be too much Star Wars.

  • April 12, 2008, 8:16 p.m. CST

    1977 1980 1983

    by George Peppard

    I'm happy to spend my money on new Star Wars stuff, but not until the theatrical versions are fully restored. They can do a new HD transfer of The Dead Pool so come ON!

  • April 12, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST

    George Lucas's writing has always been clunky.

    by Lashlarue

    Episode 4 had great editing. Watch the entire scenes that Lucas wrote, and it feels very prequel-ish. Kasadan is the reason Empire PWNS all!

  • April 12, 2008, 8:31 p.m. CST

    LINK here---BEGIN THE DARK TIMES HAVE

    by Gungan Slayer

    Here you go.... http://tinyurl.com/3gut8a

  • April 12, 2008, 8:39 p.m. CST

    Jabba's son? A jock in high school named bubba the hutt

    by Orionsangels

  • April 12, 2008, 8:46 p.m. CST

    seriously, do Lucas et al REALLY think

    by vaudeville villain

    the clone wars was *that* great of an arc that it warrants yet another iteration? we've already seen 'the fall' for crying out loud! the fuck else is there to tell?

  • April 12, 2008, 8:49 p.m. CST

    It's gonna be interesting to see if it makes any money

    by Orionsangels

    Oh it will, but I mean no star wars movie has ever bombed, let alone made less than 200 million. be interesting to see if this has the same hype as the other SW films

  • April 12, 2008, 8:51 p.m. CST

    don't underestimate this technological terror lucas has created

    by Orionsangels

  • April 12, 2008, 8:52 p.m. CST

    vaudeville

    by Stevie Grant

    I always felt that there were multiple films begging to be made about the character study of Jar Jar. Or that Ewok chieftan.

  • April 12, 2008, 8:52 p.m. CST

    besides... this shitty animation looks like the cg

    by vaudeville villain

    cutscenes from the batman: the animated series ps1 game. fucking dreck.

  • April 12, 2008, 8:57 p.m. CST

    wolf at the door, heres a brief explanation..

    by darthsilly

    It wasn't just about the taxes it was alittle more than that. I'll try to explain but most of this is from memory of reading the books and stuff not had chance to look up finer details. The goal was for sidious/palpatine to rule the galaxy, but he had no army, in fact nobody had an army, there were just local security forces and of course the jedi who went around using diplomatic skills. So darth sidious financed a small band of pirates to attack the trade lanes. The republics people wanted protection so the senate passed a motion to allow the Trade Federation who were the administrators of the trade route to assemble an armry to protect the trade routes. The trade federation then started to gain a little power and therefore go a little greedy and started to raise taxes. This didnt go down well with the republic so a dispute followed which palpatine used to make tracks in his political career. Thats why naboo was picked by the trade fed under the instruction of Darth sidious to gain even more sympathy for palps. This created all the events that we saw in TPM. After the events of TMP members of the republic feared that this could happen again and the republic didn't exactly handle it well, cue Count dooku who had made his own feelings about the republic known by quitting the Jedi Order started to offer the unhappy members an alternative to the republic. The CIS (seperatist) began to form. More and more systems started to join, which the corrupt and greedy Banking clan and Techno Union saw as better for business because they had milked the republic for all they could, decided to join. Count D was using the bankig clans finance to build the army but unbeknownst to them they were also financing the Cloning of the Republics army. This is why nobody knew about the clone army in the republic because they weren't paying for it. Cue events told in ATOC and how the clone army was created by Sifodyas who was murdered and it was prob really Sidious and Tyrannus recruiting Jango and the rest is history. The war was then started, the republic was victorious with only one thing left to bring down all the years of planning, the Jedi; who were framed for starting a revolt against the republic for there own gain so were therefore wiped out. Cue ROTS, end result Darth sidious wins with the republic practically handing power to paplatine to stop anything happening like this again which he started anyhow i.e the phantom menace

  • April 12, 2008, 8:59 p.m. CST

    Fuck

    by picardsucks

    can't we forget the whole flaming shit of the SW prequels and do a cartoon based on the Timothy Zahn stuff??? I'd rather see the further adventures of Han, Luke and crew that anything involving Anakin Beanpole Skywalker. Still wiping the shit taste outta my mouth of seeing Hayden Christainsen in a baggy Vader Suit!!

  • April 12, 2008, 9:01 p.m. CST

    stevie grant

    by vaudeville villain

    now that you mention it... i've been dying to know how the bartender at the Mos Eisley Cantina got his start. following him from bartending school to banging his first intergalactic bar whore would easily occupy, what, two films at the very least.

  • April 12, 2008, 9:02 p.m. CST

    true vaudeville...

    by Stevie Grant

    true. I've lost sleep wondering about that.

  • April 12, 2008, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Sad

    by BackwardGalaxy

    So very sad that I can say the following: "I just don't care about Star Wars anymore."

  • April 12, 2008, 9:34 p.m. CST

    Looked more realistic than Ep2

    by tile_mcgillus

    Im in. Its star wars.

  • April 12, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST

    SEE IT HERE WHERE IT SHOULD REMAIN AVAILABLE!

    by LittleDudes

    http://tinyurl.com/4z5bbf

  • April 12, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST

    SEE IT HERE WHERE IT SHOULD REMAIN AVAILABLE!

    by LittleDudes

    http://tinyurl.com/4z5bbf

  • April 12, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST

    SEE IT HERE WHERE IT SHOULD REMAIN AVAILABLE!

    by LittleDudes

    http://tinyurl.com/4z5bbf

  • April 12, 2008, 9:48 p.m. CST

    all this does is remind me of the lame prequels

    by Rupee88

    don't see how anyone over 8 y/o could get excited about this.

  • April 12, 2008, 9:55 p.m. CST

    This is what the prequels could have...

    by GeekyAnimeNerd79Beyotch

    ...been like with a proper director. I'm talking about 1 and 2, of course. Part 3 was great, IMHO.

  • April 12, 2008, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Hey Dreamfasting...

    by Sith Witch

    It's called irony. The whole Tatooine thing; very clever I say...

  • April 12, 2008, 10:30 p.m. CST

    LIKED STAR WARS

    by BurgerTime

    I remember lining up outside the theatre to see the first movie. It was spectacular. Even as a kid you knew you were seeing something special. <p> When the first trilogy wrapped (Ep. 4,5,6) it felt complete. The hero rises from anonymity, suffers some challenges and loss, and topples an empire against all conceivable odds. Wicked. Roll credits. Over. <p> Then in my 20's I remember hearing news that Lucas was resurrecting Star Wars and doing an "origin" series, telling of how these characters and conflicts came about. Awesome. With today's technology it'll be more badass than ever before. <p> I remember lining up with all the geeks. Camping out even. This was going to be the best nostalgia trip ever. I longed to feel seven again, and this was my big chance. <p> I recall leaving the theatre after Episode 1 and thinking "why was that so lame?" Sure it was nice to see the logo again, hear the music and laser blasts. But why were the characters so wooden? The story so limp? It should have been so much better. It was a total mystery to me. One that remained unsolved until a few years later. <p> Luckily the prequels got better. Never reached the heights of their predecessors, but they did imporove. Episode 3, for me, finally achieved the same level of badassness I remember experiencing with the first. You know, the goosebumps of seeing Vader and shit. <p> But then a curious thing happened. I finally collected all three of the prequels on DVD, and sat down one afternoon to watch all the "making of" featurettes. It was fun. I'm in the TV biz, so watching the pre-pro and stuff is always a blast. Anyway, something stuck out for me in that footage I'll never forget. <p> It was a shot of Lucas and Spielberg on one of the backlots somewhere, and they were inspecting the stupid droids. You know the ones that always said "roger, roger." (Idiotic, I know. I'm even embarassed to even repeat it.) Anyway, here are these two cinematic giants, standing inspecting these things. And Lucas is just going bananas over their design. He's saying "isn't that cool?" or something like that. And The Beard is just standing there, nodding and agreeing and smiling the whole time. <p> And I thought to myself "that's it!" That's what the problem was with the prequels. Nobody, not once, not even his good buddy Steve Spielberg, ever took him aside and said "are you serious George? You're going to have these stupid fucking things running everywhere going 'roger roger' to each other? What the fuck is that!?" "You've gotta be shitting me. You're going to have an alien Rastafarian character named Jar-Jar following the heroes around as the comedy relief!?" "A kid is going to fly one of these up to space and single handedly take down the Imperial mothership? Fuck off." <p> The whole thing was just Lucas basically getting to relive his filmmaking youth, on his own dime. And everyone was along for the ride, raking in fat cash doing his bidding. But at no time did anyone tell him he might be shortchanging himself or the fans. Nobody had balls big enough to tell him he was wrong in so many ways. And that was a shame. <p> Because if Lucas had played it differently, and been the "guru" who hired writers and directors with serious credibility (kind of like what they're doing now with the Potter series, and look at how much stronger it's getting) then we could have actually had a great prequel trilogy on our hands. <p> And I really could have felt like I was seven all over again. Only this time with a lot more badassness. <p> Now we have these Clone War things. And yeah, it's Star Wars and it's kinda fun. But after Lucas squandered all my hopes and dreams for what the prequels could have been, these will have nowhere near the relevance or reverence they should receive from me. Or from the next generation. <p> And so instead of finishing with a big galactic bang. In the end Star Wars, as a concept that was once awe inspiring, will probably just fade quietly to black.

  • April 12, 2008, 11:13 p.m. CST

    Date Movie of the Year

    by The Internet

    "I know money is the root of all evil<br> Do funny things to some people<br> Give me a nickel, brother can you spare a dime<br> Money can drive some people out of their minds"<br> -O'Jays "For The Love Of Money"

  • April 12, 2008, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Neuromancer?

    by Scrolly

    Anybody know if this film is actually happening? Last I heard Hayden Christensen was attached. Oh, the horror....

  • April 12, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST

    love the gif

    by Silverglade

    I am loving that gif up there. Get that wall, Harry! Get it!

  • April 12, 2008, 11:33 p.m. CST

    Good point by Gotham Night

    by BLEST

    If the PT sucked, then why DID it have huge ratings on Spike last weekend, beating everything on TV (except NAACP basketball, of course) that weekend including LOTR trilogy on TNT?<p> Answer: because the PT is cool. Reviewed moderate to awesome depending on which film and who the reviewer is, the films made BANK.<p> EPIII won the Peoples choice awards for Best Film and Best Drama.<p>Fanboys can piss and moan all they like, but lots of people really like the PT.

  • April 12, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST

    Fuck all you haters!!!!

    by Corterville

    If you don't like Star Wars, fine, but leave your namby-pamby bitching at the door.

  • April 12, 2008, 11:42 p.m. CST

    love the PT, hate the EU

    by sith_rising

    I'm in the minority I guess

  • April 12, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Surprisingly the acting is more natural and emotive.

    by kirttrik

    Here's the trailer for those who haven't seen it. http://newsinfilm.com/?p=1622

  • April 12, 2008, 11:46 p.m. CST

    here's the trailer http://tinyurl.com/4qpg4l

    by kirttrik

  • April 12, 2008, 11:48 p.m. CST

    people complaining about people complaining

    by The Internet

    SATURDAY NIGHT FOREVER! Can one single fan stand up + defend the "Son of Jabba" storyline? <br>Jabba's son is kidnapped. That's the plot device.<br> For a theatrical release. <br>That's the kind of story you resort to when you're on Clone Wars Chapter 237 in 2019 when its broadcast exclusively at select Alabama Burger King locations. <br> But that's how they're kicking this thing off. <br>Scraping the barrel at the starting line. <br>

  • April 13, 2008, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Thanks, darthsilly

    by The Wolf at the Door

    I'm almost sorry I asked. It makes sense now ... and now I'm going to stop thinking about the prequels forever. Makes my head hurt.

  • April 13, 2008, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Legos

    by Zoltan_Abbassid

    If Lucas was going to go this route, he should have just made it in Legovision, imo.

  • April 13, 2008, 12:51 a.m. CST

    BLEST and Gotham Night

    by kungfuhustler84

    Just because they got good ratings doesn't mean they are actually GOOD, just that they are popular with a specific demographic that channel targets. Remember the supposed "popular" kids in high school. Most of them were just pretty, spoiled rich kids who treated everybody else like crap and were actually dunces who are now still living with their parents. the point being, popular does not always mean it's good. That is a straight-up idiotic way to measure the calibur of a film and I can't believe after SO many talkbacks some morons still do that. Besides, it's all entirely subjective so if you like it, don't bother getting everybody else to. they won't if they don't. I personally consider the final Darth Maul fight in episode I to be one of the best in the series (except all the editing), a great deal of II to be acceptable, and III did a pretty good job of tying it all together. I don't really give a shit if a majority of the less educated populace was watching it too.

  • April 13, 2008, 1:35 a.m. CST

    SHOULD HAVE BEEN LIVE ACTION LUCAS YOU CHEAP CUNT

    by messi

    episode 2 should have been the fucking Clone Wars. 20 years + of waiting and relegated to novels, comics, animated shorts, cards and a cgi movie. failed.

  • April 13, 2008, 1:55 a.m. CST

    What's the deal with the voice actors?

    by mr teaspoon

    I know Anthony Daniels is on board, but anybody else? Mace sounded like Sam Jackson to me, but obviously not Sidious.

  • April 13, 2008, 1:57 a.m. CST

    no

    by Silverglade

    The story arc of the films is about Anakin Skywalker. The Clone Wars, while cool and exciting, are best explored in other places. The films had to be focused on the bigger picture. And Ep2+Ep3 defined for the viewer enough about the wars, yep they started, we see some war, then Ep3 as we see it coming to an end and how terrible the results have been. On to Anakin. Just because Old Ben mentioned the Clone Wars in Ep4 does not mean the PT had to be all about them. dammit.

  • April 13, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST

    yoda is a mogwai?

    by krycek08

    oh and nobody gives a shit about the clone wars

  • April 13, 2008, 2:16 a.m. CST

    Jesus...

    by Cobbio

    I once loved the original Star Wars trilogy. Honestly I did. I had figures. I watched all three movies in the theater. I took my friends to see them.<P> Now, though, because of Lucas and his painful lack of taste and ability, I basically hate all the films. All six. I can't even watch the original trilogy anymore, knowing who the guy in black armor is. I can't push the taint of the shit-stained prequels out of my mind.<p> And now this. Seriously, Jabba's son? That's fucking idiotic. That's one of stupidest plot ideas ever. Perfect for George, though, huh?<p> For me the magic is dead and buried. Fuck Lucas.

  • April 13, 2008, 2:25 a.m. CST

    I've enjoyed every Star Wars movie

    by krushjudgement

    And still do. Lucas is a master of the myth. Just because the original trilogy is better doesn't make all the great parts in the prequels invalid. I do agree about Kasdan though. Where was he this time around?

  • April 13, 2008, 2:30 a.m. CST

    It must feel strange to be George Lucas

    by darthvedder81

    The prequels made him more than a billion dollars worldwide yet there's this large contingency that says he "failed." Does that not strike anyone else as strange? Has that ever happened with movie franchise? Once most movie series reach parts 5 or 6 they are lucky to make half the cost of the film back. If TPM and AOTC were as "unwatchable" as some of you say doesn't it stand to reason SITH would have made like 12 bucks? I don't buy the "people just went to see the prequels because of good vibes from the OT" argument. Bullshit. When a series runs out of gas or is proving itself to be completely creatively bankrupt it doesn't continue to make many hundreds of millions of dollars. SITH made half a billion worldwide so why wouldn't the CGI Clones be a worthwhile investment? Can't say the same for Matrix 3...

  • April 13, 2008, 2:35 a.m. CST

    star wars

    by mrbong

    that's that one that had that massive disco ball thing that blew up planets, yeah? it is rather curious that they are making a new one after all this time, as there's ever hardly a word written about the whole thing on the internet. who knows, if this works out, maybe they will revive some older films, like that one with Harrison Ford with the hat and whip, or that Bond fellow from England? no one seems to talk much about them either.

  • April 13, 2008, 2:36 a.m. CST

    I'll admit a co-writer wouldn't have been a bad idea

    by darthvedder81

    I'm a fan of the prequels but it wouldn't have killed GL to hire a co-writer for the scripts (I'm not sure if Jonathan Hales helped or hurt CLONES). The framework of ep.1-3 were fine they could've just used a little more snap and zing in certain areas. Lucas actually does have some good chops with humor ("Wanna buy some death sticks?") and even the subtext of Anakin and Palps talking at the opera in ROTS is well done. I think he could have just used a little more coaxing from an experienced writer (Don't know about Kasdan. He hasn't exactly wowed anyone recently. Plus I believe GL asked him if wanted to take a crack at the prequels and he told him to just write the scripts himself).

  • April 13, 2008, 3:36 a.m. CST

    Jabba the Hutt's son?

    by Kirbymanly

    Has it really come down to that? Do we really need more questions? As in, how does he multiply? Looks "kinda" cool... but hearing those words from Yoda's mouth just doesn't gel.

  • April 13, 2008, 3:42 a.m. CST

    "why did they make so much money..

    by George Peppard

    if they're not good?" Shrek 3, Pirates 3, fuck you up the ass.

  • April 13, 2008, 3:49 a.m. CST

    BurgerTime is exactly fucking right...

    by poeticwarriorII

    George is such a cunt he doesn't want anyone around him that tells him his ideas are full of shit. He needs someone to tell his stupid undisciplined ass no when he comes up with some shitastic idea like droid armies and green screen movies. The only reason Star Wars was as good as it was was because that fucker had absolutely nothing to work with and it kept his sorry ass from completely fucking it up and making it just a footnote in movie history.

  • April 13, 2008, 3:58 a.m. CST

    Hayden Christensan

    by Underoos Hero

    Or however the fuck you spell his name. He fucking ruined (an already bad two movies) EP 2 and 3 for me. He fucking sucked dick. I hope he looks back at those movies and gets the cringes when he sees his self.

  • April 13, 2008, 4:05 a.m. CST

    Autistic Licence

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Lucas has left instructions that no one else can carry on the Star Wars story past Episode VI in films. Also, everything is relative. The Phantom Menace was, erm, underwhelming at the time but it looks like Lawrence of Arabia compared to stuff like Pirates of the Carribean. It's also amusing that the only people that really complained about the prequels (apart from the 'critics') were the people that grew up on the originals (including me).

  • April 13, 2008, 4:20 a.m. CST

    leobloom

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I reckon Lucas is pissed that Empire is regarded as the best film of the series, the one that he didn't direct. Lucas pretty much ghost-directed Jedi as Marquand struggled with a film on a scale far beyond what he had tackled before. Empire is certainly the most 'artistic' of the Star Wars films. It's too bad Lucas didn't follow his original plan of getting in a different director for each film. That would really have given the films an edge.

  • April 13, 2008, 4:29 a.m. CST

    Autistic Licence

    by kwisatzhaderach

    I agree. He'll be remembered for advances in sound, visual fx technology and digital editing/post-production. It is a damn shame that Star Wars led him astray from his path of personal film-making. I still consider THX 1138, American Graffiti and the original Star Wars as three of the best films of the 70s.

  • April 13, 2008, 4:57 a.m. CST

    don't complain....jsut don't watch it

    by lb

    The constant whining means nothing if you still pay to see these movies. I am not a SW fan but have enjoyed some of the movies and will ignore this movie because it is a blatant cash-in.

  • April 13, 2008, 5:20 a.m. CST

    I never thought that it could be possible..

    by fitz-hume

    ..but (thanks to the prequels) I'm actually way more excited about the new Star Trek movie than anything to do with Star Wars. Shame but true. I completely agree with BurgerTime.

  • April 13, 2008, 5:48 a.m. CST

    jabba's son

    by sarsy

    I'll be watching this opening day no matter what, but I gotta admit, the Jabba's son storyline seems kinda stupid..what happened to Tattoine being an obscure planet that nobody knows about??

  • April 13, 2008, 6 a.m. CST

    I respect your point of view weiner

    by IndustryKiller!

    Look I've been one of the most vocal prequel haters around, but weiner puts it in a way that makes sense. He enjoys it. And you know what that's fine. He doesn't try to justify it or defend it on the topic of filmmaking but it brings him pleasure and he doesn't apologise either. That is the way it should be. I would never disparage anyone for enjoying the prequels, only for saying they are quality. But the prequels are still filled with aliens and lightsabers and if that's enough to bring back that old familiar feeling for some people then rock on, who am I to say that you can't? The only place I would argue with him is the Christensen/Hamill comparison. I thin Hamill does some geniuniely good work in the OT, bringing a sense of passion and a very discernable arc to the cahracter, Christensen, while unfortunately stranded by Lucas in the prequels, I think has proven with his latest films that maybe he really is as one note and whiny as he came off as Anakin.

  • April 13, 2008, 6:05 a.m. CST

    Empire Strikes Back, the one that started it all...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    How different would the universe be if Lucas had stopped at Star Wars? If he had allowed that movie to simply stand as a kind-of Hidden Fortress re-make/ B-movie serial tribute, where the Death Star gets destroyed, Luke gets his wings, and Darth Vader gets blown across the galaxy? Instead, he decides to make Empire, where Vader is suddenly Luke's father, Luke and Leia are twins, a muppet called Yoda is the ultimate Jedi master, Boba Fett is the ultimate bounty hunter, Ewoks save the universe, which then dominoes into finding out it's all about midichlorians, Vader builds C3P0, Boba Fett's father is the original Clone, Chewbacca and Yoda were buds, Yoda actually is a muppet, the Jedi were a bunch of self-congragulatory punks, and Vader was nothing more than an extremely talented yet dim-witted mealy-mouth who in another universe would have been better off lip-synching in a late 90's boy band. Oh, what a different world it would have been...

  • April 13, 2008, 6:09 a.m. CST

    darthsilly

    by Chishu_Ryu

    I think it was the Republic that taxed the outlying trade routes, not the Trade Federation, which pissed off the Separatist galaxies. Correct me if I'm wrong...

  • April 13, 2008, 6:10 a.m. CST

    Please George, stop fucking your own franchise...

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    ...over and over and over again. Please. Stop.<p>Thank you.

  • April 13, 2008, 6:15 a.m. CST

    yeah sarsy

    by Orionsangels

    biggest universe ever and they all keep running into one another? too much backstory too. jabba's son? what's next? jar jar has a sister and she has pink colored skin and her name is Nar Nar Binks

  • April 13, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Make Knights of the Old Republic

    by theycallmemrglass

    Nuff said.

  • April 13, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Dont watch or pay for this V2.0 of thr Clone Wars...

    by wowsah156

    Please DO NOT encourage Lucas. Do not go and see this at the cinema. If we do Lucas will just churn out more substandard CGI wallpaper that will just kill the last drop of good will fans have. I am NOT going to go and see Lucas's clone Wars. Anyone with me on this?

  • April 13, 2008, 8:10 a.m. CST

    I dont understand

    by ChrisVenom

    Why are they making shows based on events in Star Wars that we know the outcome of? I mean there wont ever be a moment that we think that "Hey , How's this gonna play out?". There wont be any reprecussions as to the characters actions. Not big enough to change the story anyways. Why not base these shows on the EU. New Jedi Order anyone? Darth Bane? I think those are some of the best Star Wars stories told in years, light years aead of the PT(but I really dug Ep.3) Anyone else?

  • April 13, 2008, 8:22 a.m. CST

    To make Episodes VII-IX would be wrong...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    The story ended with the redemption of Darth Vader and Luke bringing balance to the Force. Nothing more to tell. Star Wars is a fantasy, not real life, folks. Let the characters live happily ever after. They deserve a rest and a happy ending after all the shit they've been through. What, should the children of Snow White and Prince Charming be besieged by the distant niece of the Evil Queen in a Snow White sequel? Give it a rest...

  • April 13, 2008, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Yoda looks like a tomato

    by Bobo_Vision

    Sam Jackson actually looks like Sam Jackson, the rest of them look like they belong in a Tim Burton animation.

  • April 13, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    To be fair...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    In creating the universe of the Prequel Trilogy, George Lucas and co. set up a pretty rich menagerie of worlds and characters from which to take any amount of stories from. New fans and old fans not too jaded by the lackluster PT will eat up this new series like Halloween candy.

  • April 13, 2008, 8:41 a.m. CST

    i had fun watching them, Sorry about you all who did'nt

    by SpiceMonkey27

    TPM was a good movie, some of you should watch it over,you might like it now. same goes for AOTC

  • April 13, 2008, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Read exie's post in the voice of the

    by I Dunno

    Jewish guy in the Jerky Boys and Family Guy. It's hilarious.

  • April 13, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST

    Not bothered.......

    by togmeister

    Am quite excited about The Force Unleashed though. This 'movie' seems like the equivalent of those benighted Ewok movies of the mid-80's - a cheap TV project that got cast onto the big screen as an afterthought. And as for the prequels, i agree with the guy above that said that remember that everything is relative - TPM is hugely flawed but it's Lawrence of Arabia next to 10000 B.C. or National Treasure Book of Secrets or whatever. AOTC is curious though - it has some really cool elements (the game of hide-and-seek in the asteroid belt, the scenes with Obi in the cloning factory, Dooku, Mace fighting Jango, the hunt for Anakin's mother), but some pretty stupid stuff too. ROTS was about 80% fine but could have used more Wookiee.

  • April 13, 2008, 9:39 a.m. CST

    for me:

    by rhbthree

    Star Wars was cool when i was a kid... now that i am older, they are stupid. really. c'mon. except for the spaceships, lasers/sabers, aliens, bounty hunters etc... that shit is cool because it was and is creative and i had the toys back in the day. NOW when i want to see Star Wars, i could give a fuck about who did what to whom and when and with what army. its fucking 2008. show me more impressive, bad-ass space ships, lasers/sabers, aliens, and bounty hunters. in the top-of-the-fucking-line special effects. entirely cgi? GOOD! hopefully that will eliminate some new retarded dialogue/plot points. lets get to the big blow ups with the sweet music.

  • April 13, 2008, 9:53 a.m. CST

    Chishu_Ryu

    by Rupee88

    You said it all better than I could. There is one good Star Wars movie...the rest have some entertaining scenes, but they each suck for the most part.

  • April 13, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    Oh Well, I Missed The Trailer

    by LaserPants

    Really looking forward to the movie and show, though. I think it looks cool. <br><br> Btw, if they ever do make some kind of post Episode VI movies / shows / cartoons, they should skip right to the LEGACY comic era. Its fuckin' great!

  • April 13, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST

    LEGACY Comic Is The Future Of Star Wars

    by LaserPants

    Literally. Seriously, its really great. Check it out if ya haven't yet. I think the first 6 issue arc is in trade paperback format now. Really worth your while if ya dig on Star Wars.<br><br> Btw, the Legacy of the Force novels are pretty cool too. Most EU is "meh", but I really like where its all going now.

  • April 13, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    I'm sorry, but...you all asked for this.

    by smackfu

    Lucas was more than happy to leave Star Wars in the past, going 15 years without making a new film, happy to just tinker with the technology of the existing ones. And you all cried and cried for more Star Wars, you awoke the beast, and now even the Japanese military can't bring him down.

  • April 13, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST

    Crybabies

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    I'm amazed at some of the comments here. Some of you guys act like you were literally raped by George Lucas, not just your "childhood".

  • April 13, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST

    MORIARTY

    by mystory64

    So when is that Jedi/StarWars roundtable crew gonna get back together to discuss this stuff/ To be honest it I was my fav part about the PT, your roundtable banter both before and after the film releases.

  • April 13, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST

    No no it's...

    by RogueWarrior65

    Up down left left circle triangle square square... Jeez, this looks like one long series of crappy console game cut scenes.

  • April 13, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Yellow Lightsabers

    by Schlicky

    Did I see yellow light sabers in the trailer? I thought George made it clear that Jedi only carried green or blue? (which I thought was stupid)

  • April 13, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Autistic Licence

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Thanks for the heads up on that site, looks pretty interesting, i'll check it out.

  • April 13, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST

    Substandard CGI?

    by Reverend Toast

    I find it really funny how SOOO many people are complaining about the quality of the CGI, cuz it is really freaking good. Don't forget that this is a TV series. Unlike special effects movies, which typically take 2+ years to make, a successful TV series has less than a year to make a season. Have you noticed that most CGI in television shows is very sub-par to that of movies? Look at the shows that are totally CGI, Beyond the Rift? Reboot? Action Man? These shows have horrible CGI, cuz they don't have the time (or budget) to make them look great. With Clone Wars, yes it has been in development for more than a year, but that is because they want this show to work in the long haul. So they designed a cast of characters that will look good, but be easy to animate, make sure the skeletal systems are rigged properly, Blend Shapes finished so they have an entire library of facial expressions, and lipsync positions, so the only thing they have to do for each episode, is animate it. Yes the CGI isn't the quality of The Incredibles or Ratatouille, but it is FAR better than anything that has been a TV release so far, and the animation still looks better than most Non-Pixar CGI films to date.

  • April 13, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    Fuck all y'all

    by crazyhorse2099

    At least Lucas gave you guys something new to bitch and moan about. Your lives now have meaning again.

  • April 13, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Shadows of the Empire

    by hoorayforeric

    I read the book and it had a soundtrack based on an adventure between episode V and VI. It was very good...a CGI movie of that would be amazing!

  • April 13, 2008, 11:41 a.m. CST

    I've got a bad feeling about this

    by INWOsuxRED

    I liked the PT, but filling in the middle with characters we know isn't going to add much. I wish Lucas would consider working on those small projects he kept talking about. I could care less if they all suck, I'd rather see him try something new and fail than succeed with more Star Wars or Indy rehashes.

  • April 13, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST

    anyone ever watched Bill Moyers with Joseph Campbell?

    by krycek08

    there is a part where he talks about Star Wars and how Joe was a huge influence on Lucas. Now I can see Lucas ignored everything about Campbell's work in ep 1-3. I would like to ask Lucas if he is aware that he lives his life opposite of the Jedi mythology, which he claims is the whole point of him creating Star Wars. He truly is on the dark side...

  • April 13, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST

    i tend to agree with weiner

    by LegoKenobi

    every one of the movies has something good in it that makes it worthwhile. i don't agree that hayden was the best choice, but i DO agree that ewan is FANTASTIC as a young kenobi. he is the saving point for most of the prequels for me. he really studied alec guinness for his role -- his look and mannerisms are perfect. all this being said, i REALLY miss the idea that all SIX movies were going to end up being about 3PO and R2, because they were the only characters that were there through the whole thing. sure, the vader storyline is dramatic and all, but that was a nice revelation and twist.

  • April 13, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Chishu_Ryu you might be right

    by darthsilly

    like I said, I didn't research the finer details just went of what I could remember

  • April 13, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST

    anyone know where i can see this?

    by crazy4dragons13

    i saw it on youtube last nite and i forgot about it a minute later. damn! yes i was home on a saturday nite on youtube.

  • April 13, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    how lucas ruined starwars...

    by bernard

    ...for every kid that watches them in order (1-6) for the first time: <p> there were two big plot twists for me in the original trilogy...those HOLY SHIT moments, and Lucas destroyed them. <p> 1. "Luke, I am your father." ...which is ruined for anyone who watches 1-3 before the original trilogy because you SEE anakin become vader. <p> 2. Luke and Leia are brother and sister...which is ruined when you hear Padme name the fuckin' kids before she dies. <p> and that's not to mention the shit cgi, misuse of Sam Jackson, and horrible acting in the prequels from almost all involved. it's almost unbelievable to me that the same guy responsible for the original trilogy is also responsible for the shit that is episodes 1-3.

  • April 13, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST

    If I Ever Have Kids...

    by LaserPants

    I'm totally showing them the OT first. Then, after they've seen the good ones, they can decide whether or not they wanna watch the PT (which I'm sure they will). Kids really do like the PT stuff, but the OT is so much better storywise, and so much cooler, that they need to watch that first. The whole Vader v Luke bit blew my mind when I was a wee kid in the theatre way back in the olden daze of late 70s early 80s childhood. Watchin them in the retconned sequence really kills that... (Not a hater, though... the first two blew, but I love Revenge of the Sith.)<br><br> Anyways, In terms of that whole thang, the childhood nostalgia angle, this summer SPEED RACER is my STAR WARS.

  • April 13, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST

    CRAZY4DRAGONS13, SEE IT HERE!!!!!!!!!!!

    by wackybantha

    http://tinyurl.com/4z5bbf

  • April 13, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST

    I'm totally with you, bernard

    by Motoko Kusanagi

    and I think one of the main problems was that Lucas was directing all parts of the new trilogy. 'Cause, imho, the weakest episode (directing-wise) from the OT is the first one - which fuckhead Lucas directed.

  • April 13, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    i would describe this as "unessential".

    by frankenfickle

    what unanswered questions remain? especially from the bookended chapter he's chosen for this cartoon thing? in other words, what is supposed to interest me here? just seeing the characters on the screen?

  • April 13, 2008, 1:48 p.m. CST

    Whoah! I Think It Looks Great!

    by LaserPants

    Haterz gotta hate, but I think this looks great. Theres all kindsa cool stuff they can do with this... Hopefully it'll live up to the potential! Thanks for the link wackybantha...

  • April 13, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST

    See Star Wars as you've never seen it before..

    by Fortunesfool

    What? 100% CG as opposed to 90%

  • April 13, 2008, 1:54 p.m. CST

    The Music

    by LaserPants

    So much of Star Wars is the music. I swear to god, those music cues, especially the olde skool OT ones (though some of the PT nu- score I like as well), are so deeply ingrained in my psyche, its nigh well pavlovian. Lucas should bow down before a stature of John Williams everyday in deeply grateful supplication.

  • April 13, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST

    I've always loved the concept of STAR WARS...

    by Ambush_Bug

    ...but not the execution. This actually looks like how Star Wars should look. I think it may work if they don't hold back on certain aspects of the violence.

  • April 13, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST

    Agreed! They Should Do An OT Cgi Show

    by LaserPants

    The Adventures of Han Solo and Chewbacca! Splinter of the Minds Eye: The Movie! Olde skool Rebel v. Imperial action! That would rule.

  • April 13, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    KITT FISTO!!!!

    by Ambush_Bug

    We hardly knew ye. Looks like we'll see more of him now. Anyone see the cartoon where they show him underwater? He's amphibious.

  • April 13, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Ambush_Bug

    by LaserPants

    Yeah, I'm a fan from way back, but its definitely true that the concept, or the backbone, or the outline, are stronger than the actual movies. But I think thats why it endures; the strength of the ideas. And, cmon, the original movies are great! I mean I love the whole shebang, but, admittedly, alot of it is ridiculous / campy. But somehow that makes it more endearing? I dunno. I think a big part of it is when you see it. If you were introduced to Star Wars at a young age, its really "wow!" and it takes ahold of you, if later on, not so much.

  • April 13, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    by huggerorange

    i agree with the complaints on the need to interconnect every character in star wars..its the easy way out and boring..why dont they get a little creative and forget about the whole darth vader- luke-leia- han solo shit and make new characters with new stories and at least new villains..notice how the prequels got more interesting when new bad guys appeared..gen. grevious, darth maul, count dooku..

  • April 13, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST

    This new CGI animated series appears to be a link...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    ...technically, stylistically, and storywise, between the live action films and the cartoon network series.

  • April 13, 2008, 2:05 p.m. CST

    I'd Like To See A LEGACY CGI Show As Well

    by LaserPants

    MARKET TO ME LUCASFILM! MARKET TO ME!

  • April 13, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST

    Order that I will show my children:

    by Shaw

    IV, V, I, II, III (prequels as flashback), VI. it's the only way to maintain the twists and still keep the ending where it should be.

  • April 13, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    I associate Star Wars with...

    by Ambush_Bug

    ...a time where practically EVERYTHING kicked ass. My biggest challenge in life was to find the Yoda action figure, or figure out a way to convince my dad to buy me a small to medium-sized GI Joe vehicle on the way out of Sears. So - really - it's not necessarily Star Wars, but it's the snake pit in Raiders of the Lost Ark, it's Clint Eastwood with "Right Turn" Clyde and a one-hour street fight scene, it's hearing Kim Cattrall orgasm during the middle of gym class in Porky's before I even knew what the fuck an orgasm was. And George Lucas - much like Stephen Spielberg, John Hughes, and Harold Ramis - happened to be the sources for everything I idolized as a kid at that time. But when you break each one down to it's core - Star Wars was the most successful - not in terms of being a fantastic series of movies - but in terms of emotionally branding us and repeating the Star Wars imagery ad-nauseum. The action figures you could buy and the vehicles you could use with the figures and the playset... OH MY FUCKING GOD... the playsets. My own stories were about 98298982 times more epic than George Lucas could have ever conceived - especially when Cobra Commander killed Darth Vader and became The Emperor's new apprentice back around '85. I think the toys contributed a great deal to it's popularity, because there was always a character for everyone - even mom and dad. Dare I even get into the discussion that a good portion of the Star Wars movies did, and still do, bore me to tears.

  • April 13, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    I think kids nowadays and in the future...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    ...would be bored with the Original Trilogy, which feature dated special effects, slow pacing, little eye candy, when compared to the Prequels. But I suppose if you show it to a kid who has a real interest in things Star Wars, best to shelter and protect them from the cinematic travesty that is the Prequels lest they also experience the Great Star Wars Letdown and also risk having their childhoods raped...

  • April 13, 2008, 2:41 p.m. CST

    ...i...dont get it.

    by TimMighty

    I mean...didnt that nice lil short cartoons cover the whole Clone war thing ? Nahh...whatever.

  • April 13, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    Your arrogance blinds you, Lucas.

    by Larry Sellers

    It's like he's trying to make up for the lackluster prequels (which i DON'T completely hate btw) by tacking on more and more shit. Three years in and we're already retconning the PT? I'll admit this LOOKS cool, but that's about it. It's even more unnecessary than the prequels. There's more than enough story to be told (or retold, or reinterpreted, or simply translated for a series) that's post-ROTJ. Maybe Lucas thinks the Clone Wars are the only part of the Star Wars mythos left untouched by better writers? The books are already set almost 30 years after ROTJ? Grow a pair, Lucas, realize there are better storytellers out there, and embrace how well they've supplemented the universe you've created.

  • April 13, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    THE VIDEO IS HERE!!!!!

    by Darth Dean

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSHmu5unqqY

  • April 13, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    yes!

    by crazy4dragons13

    i can't wait to watch half hour starwars's every week. i know the prequels had their flaws, but this doesn't look bad. let it go forever, nothing is sacred anymore.

  • April 13, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    I'm just glad to see...

    by ClockWorker

    CG being utilized for something that's not totally directed at children. BEOWULF was good but they tried to make the characters look like real people. There some much potential in CG the, THE INCREDIBLES just touched the surface is definitely ready to get followed up by something

  • April 13, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    This looks cool but...

    by Darth Thoth

    The bottom line is that Lucas dropped the ball on the live action prequels. One of the films at minimum should've been dedicated to the Clone Wars. No cartoon series or cartoon movie, however cool, will ever be able to remedy this grave error. We waited decades to see the Clone Wars and we got snippets. Unacceptable and further reason why there's the OT... and everything else.

  • April 13, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Of course he didn't RUIN Star Wars

    by Larry Sellers

    All I meant was that this shit is unnecessary from a story perspective. We've already covered the major events of the Clone Wars in the mini series, comic books, and AOTC & ROTS. Give us something new. Also, these "THEN GO WATCH SOMETHING ELSE" arguments are stale. If you're tired of reading people's whiny opinions, well...go READ something else :)

  • April 13, 2008, 4:24 p.m. CST

    One thing everyone seems to forget...

    by 2dope

    is that Lucas has ALWAYS said, he makes these films for 12 year olds. NOT for all of us who loved the original Trilogy when we were 12. Think about it...do you still play with GI Joe's and Transformers, Lego's and He-Man? No. But you did when you were 8-12. You thought they were the greatest things ever, right along with your Star Wars toys, of course. And now, when you're 40, you wonder why something that had such appeal to you when you were a kid seems so...lacking? Are you kidding me? My kids, who range in age from 12 to 4, love ALL the Star Wars films, and the younger ones really like Jar Jar. Do I really love all the films? No. But if I step back into 'kid mode', and look at the spectacle that is the Star Wars Saga, I am blown away. Maybe all you haters out there should try to remember how 'awesome' and how 'cool' you used think the lame-ass He-Man cartoons were, and the fact that you idolized a guy who half the time wore pink tights over his purple loin clothe. Star Wars is made for kids. Period. And kids love it.

  • April 13, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST

    You so fucking care.

    by Pariah74

    Why tell us if you don't care? Why not just go to something that you DO care about? Hilarious. Might as well right, "I still like star wars but I'm can't admit I had fun watching it in the theater or people might not think I'm cool." Fine with me. I liked Star Wars when it was originally geeky to like it, and I still like it now that all the morons who called themselves fans because they like ESB think they're too good for it. this site is fuckin funny!

  • April 13, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST

    This looks like crap....

    by Jobacca

    Therefore,I will only see it 27 times in the theatre. And I'll download it illegally when I choose to masturbate over it. That'll stick it to old man Lucas. Seriously though,this could have been better. Remember that fanmade trailer for Tales from The New Republic? Not only was the animation better but the concept was animated SW stories from all time periods...that would have been the way to go,instead of a Clone Wars only era show. And why is this not in 3D? This would have been the perfect excuse for Lucas to indulge the digital 3D fetish hes been harping about for years now. As is,this is just kind of a meh effort. Between this,the animated TV show,and live-action TV show and all the Force Unleashed crap SW is now more than ever starting to resemble a flooded market. Luca$ outta at least space this shit out better so it doeasnt seem as blatant

  • April 13, 2008, 4:59 p.m. CST

    Brunomac

    by 2dope

    I do dig some "kiddie-type shit", but I also try to keep in mind who the various things I dig are really geared for. Trust me, I am as a big of a geek as you can imagine. Hell, I even have a custom Vader suit that ran me over $3k. But when I put it on and go in parades and such with the 501st, it is 99% kids that want to talk to me or get their picture taken with the Dark Lord. I'm just saying there are some people who act like Lucas destroyed their friggin' childhood because he made the Prequels, which is just bullshit. And, as geeky as ANY of us are (we are posting in a talk-back on a site that was designed by the OG geek, after all), we should just keep in mind that some of these films are more specifically geared for kids, which is why the kid in us still enjoys them.

  • April 13, 2008, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Err!

    by A G

    I'm generally a Star Wars fan but that looked like totally derivative shit.

  • April 13, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST

    3 things...

    by DettaVen

    1. I'm definitely seeing this in the theaters. 2. I'm glad to see official recognition of the yellow lightsaber in the film saga (at least that's what it looked like- shitty quality and all) I've been waiting for this since 1978. 3. If only the newer live action films were anywhere close to being this cool, no one would bitch. Unfortunately they weren't.

  • April 13, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Fortunesfool: "What? 100% CG as opposed to 90%"

    by fitz-hume

    Well said. ;D

  • April 13, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    adult film vs kiddie film

    by Chishu_Ryu

    Maybe Lucas should have geared the live action Prequel films strictly for the teenager-adult crowd, and made the cartoons for the kiddies. Instead, it was like the other way around...

  • April 13, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    The Prequel cartoons...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    ...had a dark brooding emotional depth to them, more geared to an adult audience, but receptive to kids, as well. Lucas didn't pick up on this style until ROTS. TPM and AOTC were all slapstick and non-stop movement, much of it lame.

  • April 13, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    AOTC slapstick

    by Chishu_Ryu

    I'm generalizing, of course, but yeah, there was a lot of slapstick going on i.e. Anakin, Padme, and 3P0 at the Geonishian factory and the Gladiator pits, Yoda flying around like a muppet on happy dust, Anakin chasing Zam Weisel around the city, Anakin riding alien cows, and so on... Just a lot of non-stop action, which I'm sure kids loved. The cartoons, although they did contain unrealistic action sequences because yes they are cartoons, also had a quiet brooding depth to them that was lacking in AOTC, but was present in ROTS.

  • April 13, 2008, 6:15 p.m. CST

    Reposted

    by www.schadenfreude.net

    http://www.schadenfreude.net/

  • April 13, 2008, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Post Ep VI

    by Jotham

    Why doesn't Lucas make the stories of the rebellion after ROTJ? That's what people want! That's what we want to see. Stop pandering to the 8 year olds who want toys and start pandering to the 38 year old parents!

  • April 13, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST

    The sad thing is....

    by Jobacca

    The Samurai Jack dude who made the Clone Wars cartoon totally wanted to do a more "adult" series about the adventures of Han and Chewie pre-ANH. It was all going to be about smuggling and Hutts and bad-ass Bounty Hunters. Word out of the ranch is that Lucas was PISSED that this guys version of SW was better received than anything he had done in the prequels so the idea was nixed. Thats also why the Clone Wars animated series is being redone.

  • April 13, 2008, 6:29 p.m. CST

    No Post Ep VI movies because...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    The cycle of Anakin and Luke Skywalker is completed, the Force is brought to balance, and Lucas has milked Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress for all it's worth. I think what the thritysomething parents would really like to see is a Willow Trilogy with Val Kilmer reprising his role as Madmardigan...

  • April 13, 2008, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Star Wars/Empire/Etc

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    To me there are three distinct aspects of the Star Wars "saga" and those are in the subject line.<p>1. Star Wars - As others have mentioned, had it been left alone it may have been eternally lauded as a somewhat arty pop movie milestone, a truly visionary film that managed to create a perfect mix of myth and fun. The conceit of it being one chapter of many would have resonated as just another clever and inspired touch. On the other hand I think there's a chance it may have been forgotten to a degree, without the "empire" that followed it and kept the name alive.<p>2. The Empire Strikes Back - A film that in many ways should not have been. Star Wars is almost perfect as a stand-alone film, yet somehow they went ahead with a sequel and expanded upon Star Wars successfully. This is nothing short of a cinematic miracle, considering what gestalt-defining, lightning-in-a-bottle movie Star Wars was. Lucas and others were naturally encouraged to make more, but the truth is, whatever the circumstances were, and how unlikely they were to be as successful as they were, the process was obviously not so easily duplicated.<p>3. The precedent set was a bit of a mirage, and that extends beyond the Star Wars franchise. The Matrix for example was another somewhat perfectly-formed pop culture moment and film, but when they attempted to expand on it, we did not get anything close to another Empire Strikes Back. <p>As for the Star Wars films, none of them ever matched the first two for the reasons described above. Somehow they caught lightning in a bottle twice, and it wasn't going to happen again. For me, the remaining four films have their ups and downs. Revenge of the Sith is probably as good as it was going to get, all things considered, and The Phantom Menace is as mishandled as it could be. Return of the Jedi is a mixed bag that gets by - when it does get by - on affection for the characters that were much better served by the previous two films. Attack of the Clones is a modestly entertaining sci-fi fantasy film that doesn't get as bad or as good as Return of the Jedi does.

  • April 13, 2008, 6:47 p.m. CST

    Last half hour of Clones

    by kwisatzhaderach

    rocked my world.

  • April 13, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST

    Most artistic SW film btw

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Is the original, imho.

  • April 13, 2008, 7 p.m. CST

    Agree, Thunderbolt Ross...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    ...although I think nothing in the Prequel films matches anything in the Original Trilogy. I even think the Ewoks are superior to anything in the Prequels. Hell, the Ewoks are really what Star Wars is all about (originally), and what Kurosawa was doing with Hidden Fortress, the idea that even the secondary bit characters can make all the difference in the world.

  • April 13, 2008, 7:32 p.m. CST

    muppets vs. cgi

    by bernard

    i'll take muppets over cgi any day. look at mirrormask vs. the labyrinth. <p> i think that the jim henson co. in 1986 was better off with henson alive and at the top of his game than it is with him dead twenty years later. same goes for star wars.

  • April 13, 2008, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Willow Trilogy

    by antonphd

    Hell yes!! I am still pissed that series never happened.

  • April 13, 2008, 7:53 p.m. CST

    by Jobacca

  • April 13, 2008, 7:57 p.m. CST

    Mining the Magic...

    by Jobacca

    Part of what made Star Wars cool is the mystery. What exactly heppend pre-Star Wars? What happened with the bounty hunter on Ord Mantell pre-Empire? To be fair,they were using the Marvel comics back in the day to explain this shit,but the mystery was kind of cool. It was like these characters had lives and adventures that the audience only saw parts of,and it was up to our imaginations as to what had really happened. Now,the prequel era and the time between the OT movies is getting covered and recovered to the point where nothing is left unexplained and apparently every character is related to or interacted with each other at some point in the past. I'm all in favor of shit like KOTOR or Legacy...we need more stories set in the SW universe that DONT revolve around the same core characters and the same 20-40 year timespan.

  • April 13, 2008, 8:13 p.m. CST

    As if thousand voices suddenly cried out...

    by Sithtastic

    ...and then demanded we mature. The so-called "haters" on here are justified for wanting something more complex out of the franchise and indeed, Lucas could have pleased more of his fan base had he invested more in the political intrigue that surrounded the collapse of the republic (rather than simply phrasing it in pseudo-Chomskyite allegory dialogue). The clone wars was one such intriguing element to the prequel mythos that as it turns out, was better handled in the animated series than in Ep.II and its end in Ep.III. In short, it was simply better when someone else handled the dialogue and story. Let Lucas produce and...well, be Lucas. Lest we forget, he only directed ANH and hired on directors for ESB and ROTJ. It is for this reason, I'll hold out hope for this project.

  • April 13, 2008, 8:37 p.m. CST

    Ewoks

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Whatever the reasoning behind them, or what purpose they serve ... they suck. Lucas has a lot of ideas that sound good when he talks about them, but the execution is lacking - I can't think of a better example than Ewoks.

  • April 13, 2008, 8:42 p.m. CST

    the Clone Wars cartoons

    by sarsy

    You gotta admit Season 2 was the shit. Season 1 had some bad moments (Kit Fisto...) but there were some really awesome moments too (Mace Windu in desert, Anakin VS Assajj, etc).

  • April 13, 2008, 8:57 p.m. CST

    sarsy

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    Are you saying Season 2 was worse or better than Season 1?

  • April 13, 2008, 9:01 p.m. CST

    those of you whining about knowing the ending

    by sarsy

    We walk into almost every movie knowing the outcome: the good guys win. You think Iron Man or Batman are gonna get killed off this summer? What about Bond in the next movie? Its not just about what the outcome ultimately is; its how you get there that matters.

  • April 13, 2008, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Season 2's slightly better than Season 1

    by sarsy

    But thats just my opinion. I really loved both of the seasons. I was pretty disappointed to hear that Tartakovsky wouldn't be onboard for this one.

  • April 13, 2008, 9:08 p.m. CST

    I LIKE EWOKS!

    by Chishu_Ryu

    You can't deny they were cute little fuzzballs and they fit in with Endor's (Redwood Nat'l Park) forest environment perfectly. I liken them to Star Trek's Tribbles. But more than that, they fit in with the original Star Wars theme that even the unlikeliest of heroes can make a difference (In ANH, it's a farmboy, a pirate, a wookie, and two bumbling droids who help destroy the Death Star and save the Princess, and in Akira Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress, it's the two bumbling greedy peasants and the lowly servant girl who help save the day) and in keeping with that theme, the Ewoks are the unlikeliest heroes of all. The Empire overlooked them as harmless forest creatures, but they actually held the ability to topple that Empire, through humble primitive means that bypassed the technological mechanizations of the Empire. The Empire never sees it coming, and that's why it is so effective. Such examples can be seen throughout actual history. The meek shall inherit the universe. Long live Ewoks! Yub-yub!

  • April 13, 2008, 9:22 p.m. CST

    Oh, and Yoda is the prime example...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    ...of Star Wars' theme that even the seeming lowest of creatures can contain within them the potential for greatness, or at least the ability to make a difference. Jar Jar Binks is perhaps the most notorious example, with young 6 year-old Anakin a close second...

  • April 13, 2008, 9:37 p.m. CST

    Ewoks are....

    by Jobacca

    THE SHIT!! And I mean that in a good way. I luvs me some Ewoks. Sometimes,I cruise around in my car with the windows down blaring the original Ewok Rock song. Did you know that post-Jedi the Ewoks opened a theme casino on the forest moon of Endor and made billions in Imperial Credits? Everybody knows Endor slots are the loosest slots in the galaxy....

  • April 13, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Anakin and Padme should have been deaf mutes...

    by Otis Fairweather III

    Even my son who is 4 likes the original 3 better. I seriously think that the only thing Lucas could do to fix would be a directors "re-edit" Episode 1- No Jar Jar Episode 2 - No dialogue at all. No Dexter, No Hayden/Portman talking at all, every time they are going to talk, just do a wipe or fade out to a Jawa or something. Episode 3 - Again, Portman / Hayden are two deaf mutes when in the same room together.

  • April 13, 2008, 10:40 p.m. CST

    http://rs164.rapidshare.com/files/107050565/thetrailer.wmv

    by Otis Fairweather III

  • April 13, 2008, 10:40 p.m. CST

    I think it's pretty clear from this talkback...

    by poeticwarriorII

    The PT was a colossal fucking failure. It'll be interesting to see how this shitty cartoon fairs in the theater. I think I smell a turd getting ready to drop. Maybe this asshole will feel his career dissipation light going off and do something different.

  • April 13, 2008, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Burgertime nailed it...

    by Otis Fairweather III

    Spielberg agreed with him about those retardobots bring cool because Beardo had just said "Yes Steven, replacing the guns with walkie-talkies is a great idea. Maybe you should replace the shark in Jaws with a CG shark now that we have the technology to improve everyone's sacred child hood memoriess"

  • April 13, 2008, 10:55 p.m. CST

    Kobe Wars

    by future help

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=tjAhbsQZf5g

  • April 13, 2008, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Can we get another story where

    by jimbojones123

    we already know how it ends???

  • April 13, 2008, 11:05 p.m. CST

    Can we get another story where

    by jimbojones123

    we already know how it ends???

  • April 13, 2008, 11:11 p.m. CST

    Damn those legal departments....

    by R L S

    I didn't know lawyers worked on Sunday.

  • April 13, 2008, 11:17 p.m. CST

    I hate to say it but I've been over Star Wars for awhile.

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    Lucas managed to suck all the magic from it dry like a crack whore on a hard penis.

  • April 13, 2008, 11:52 p.m. CST

    Yes the Clone Wars was better

    by Phategod1

    Kit Fisto was, what it was a episode to show off a little known Jedi, The one both seasons did hat movie didn't was build up General Grevious. The Dialouge and action sequences where better In Clone Wars. Yoda was bringing down Drop ships with his force power I hoping see something that epic in Ep III I really thought he was going to stop ship from crashing into the planet but they lamed it up Lucas has a piss poor Imagination and his DIrecting talent leaves much to be desired.

  • April 14, 2008, 1 a.m. CST

    First off, Quicktime is bloated crap

    by PervOmatic

    Worst mainstream codec EVER. Secondly, this looks like utter crap. Thirdly, George Lucas is a whore.

  • April 14, 2008, 1:15 a.m. CST

    No you don't

    by Pariah74

    Most of you haters know about as much about what star wars "should" be as you do about the films Star Wars is an homage to. If you can't sit down and enjoy Buster Crabbe serving a pile of steaming cheese dialogue then you have clue about Star Wars. If you think Commander Cody looked stupid then you don't know dick. And if you think New Jedi Order is what Star Wars should be then you should just kill yourself or go back to jerking off to The Crow or The Matrix.

  • April 14, 2008, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Oh and I love...

    by Pariah74

    The way SW haters throw out the most ridiculous rumors about Lucas and attack him so viciously. As if you have any clue as to what he's like personally. He's about as private as they come...but a twit like you knows all about his most embarrassing and petty personality faults?! Shut up.

  • April 14, 2008, 1:23 a.m. CST

    has there been a film sequel yet

    by dizzywhip

    that pulled an empire strikes back by being just as good and arguably better than its predecessor? maybe superman 2 and road warrior

  • April 14, 2008, 1:39 a.m. CST

    dizzywhip

    by Chishu_Ryu

    These days, I think most sequels to potential movie franchises are at least of equal quality to the first film. Spider-Man 2, X2, Bourne Supremacy, Blade 2, Terminator 2 come to mind. IMO, though, I can't say Superman 2 is better than Superman. I think Empire is the original good sequel, though.

  • April 14, 2008, 2:30 a.m. CST

    The ending of ESB is probably my favorite...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    Where Luke puts arm around Leia as they watch Lando depart for Tattoine, Reverse Ext. Camera zooms out past the Rebel Carriers to John Williams' Han and Leia love theme. Sweetness.

  • April 14, 2008, 2:47 a.m. CST

    gotham_night

    by DocPazuzu

    Because Yoda was testing his patience. I was 13 when I saw ESB for the first time and even then I could figure that one out.

  • April 14, 2008, 2:59 a.m. CST

    i cannot teach him, the boy has no patience

    by kwisatzhaderach

    he will learn patience

  • April 14, 2008, 3:39 a.m. CST

    ESB was Disco

    by Pariah74

    Saturday Night Fever dance floor in a supposedly industrial work area? Neon lights on the star destroyers? neck tied half capes with gold silk interiors? A blackman with a jerry curl hairdo? And was it me or did every extra have a porn mustache? Disco.

  • April 14, 2008, 3:46 a.m. CST

    Pariah74

    by DocPazuzu

    You say that like it's a bad thing.

  • April 14, 2008, 4:33 a.m. CST

    true Chishu_Ryu.

    by TimMighty

    absolutely.

  • April 14, 2008, 5:29 a.m. CST

    Everything Is Disco

    by LaserPants

    Underneath it all, the entire world is a coked out disco. Lightsabres or not, we are all apart of gods creepy disco orgy nightmare. YEAH!!! GED DOO DAH DISCO CHAHPPAH!!! FORM DEE CONGO LINE!!! DOO DEE COCAINE!!! CONTRACT DEE STDS!!! ARRRRGH!!!! THE FORCE BE WIT YOO BOOTAY!!! Nah,but seriously, ESB is surprisingly undisco considering it plopped straight down in the middle of a Disco Universe circa 1980. Now, 70s/80s Buck Rogers and Battlestar Galactica? THEY were disco.

  • April 14, 2008, 5:44 a.m. CST

    didn't gotham_night used to be skywalkerfamily

    by Lost Jarv

    he writes the same crap in the same style: he writes in short sentences. To give his words more profundity than they would otherwise have. They're still bollocks though.

  • April 14, 2008, 6:47 a.m. CST

    Poland leads the way...

    by Forbid-man

    Apparently this was published because of some f*ck-up at the Warner Poland (and has been pulled since - including original official release). Well, such is the wheel of furtune: someone gets fired for being a lame-ass, millions enjoy the trailer.

  • April 14, 2008, 7:07 a.m. CST

    Incredible Hulk was Disco

    by Chishu_Ryu

    Dig those crazy shirts, man...

  • April 14, 2008, 8:01 a.m. CST

    Chishu_Ryu and dizzywhip

    by Gungan Slayer

    this is going pretty old school, but BRIDE OF FRANKENSTEIN is, IMO the first and perhaps one of the best examples of a sequel being much better than the original. I think A SHOT IN THE DARK was much better than THE PINK PANTHER as well. and obviously FROM RUSSIA, WITH LOVE is better than DR. NO. although I also agree with your choice of sequels Chishu.

  • April 14, 2008, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Sequels

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    It's not just that Empire Strikes Back was as good or better. It's that Star Wars was a singular imaginative vision, and ESB enhanced and expanded on it perfectly. That's what's most impressive, and what really hasn't been duplicated. <p>Sure X2 is better than X Men (imho), but X Men is no Star Wars. It's relatively easy to improve on the original in the sequel if the original isn't a generation-defining phenomenon. <p>The only comparable situation I can think of off the top of my head is The Matrix, and obviously that didn't turn out too well. <p>Maybe Bride of Frankenstein fits the bill too; I can't remember either film too well.

  • April 14, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST

    Terminator 2 does NOT in anyway equal Terminator

    by Lost Jarv

    are you on crack? do you not remember Robot daddy. It was still cool, but not a patch on the original.

  • April 14, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    New Video Link

    by Unlabled

    http://tinyurl.com/3cmfdy Enjoy!

  • April 14, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    Terminator 2

    by Chishu_Ryu

    I think Terminator 2 is probably the best parallel to Empire Strikes Back. The first Terminator could have stood alone as a single film, but James Cameron introduced the idea of a good Terminator in the sequel and the rest is history. T2 was bigger than the original film in box office receipts and critically. Now GED DOO DA CHOPPAA!!!!

  • April 14, 2008, 12:29 p.m. CST

    Thunderbolt Ross.. to add to your list

    by MurderMostFowl

    Terminator 2, and Aliens were both (IMHO) superior sequels to movies that were intended to stand on their own. Also, though cinematically less "import", I think you have to also mention "Toy Story 2" and even "Hot Shots:Part Deux". Both of them are miles above the original.

  • April 14, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Here's the problem.

    by Pariah74

    ESB has more mainstream appeal. Star Wars (ANH) was a throwback type film. In 1977 most people were unfamiliar with or had forgotten Flash Gordon and Buck Rogers. Lucas simply took that style and used ground breaking special effects on it. The mythic imagery was to give a fairy tale feel. It was a novelty. ESB taken by itself doesn't fit into the campy style. The only way it does is as a second act. And yet, that is not how most people like it. Those that talk about ESB's greatness always do so in comparison to what they see has RotJ failures. Without the upbeat and campy third act the second act is simply just another dark and dreary sci-fi action movie. Which is what the masses like, not fans of Buster Crabbe style campy stories.

  • April 14, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    follow up.

    by Pariah74

    That's why the masses don't like 4 out of the 6 Star Wars films, and the fans like 5 (or 5.5) out of 6.

  • April 14, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST

    To say ESB is only great because of ROTJ

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    is just silly.

  • April 14, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    T2 and Aliens

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    The thing is neither of the originals is on the same level of Star Wars, in any way. Plus Alien is better than Aliens ; )

  • April 14, 2008, 3:39 p.m. CST

    Mad Max 2 is the only parallel to TESB

    by Prossor

    Alien>Aliens, T1>T2. However with MM2 it is the only one truly equal or even better to MM1, improving on the original in everway, and the original was quite a movie itself.

  • April 14, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Star Trek 2: Wrath of Khan

    by Chishu_Ryu

    No one can deny that one...

  • April 14, 2008, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Cameroidian

    by kwisatzhaderach

    Alien>Aliens, T1>T2 Having said that Aliens and T2 are freakin amazing films. But Alien and The Terminator are world beating classics.

  • April 14, 2008, 7:07 p.m. CST

    Pariah74

    by Chishu_Ryu

    The only thing Star Wars has in common with Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon is that they're all outer space adventures. The original Star Wars owes its existence to Akira Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress (as well as snippets from a few other Kurosawa films like Seven Samurai and Sanjuro) and John Ford films like The Searchers and Cheyenne Autumn. You might wanna throw in a little Frank Capra's Wonderful LIfe while you're at it. Lucas, Coppola, Spielberg, Scorsese, DePalma are among the first film school filmmakers. The guys who studied other great filmmakers' films before making their own. Here's a little piece of trivia...Where does the Han Solo shoots Greedo scene come from? Answer: John Ford's Cheyenne Autumn when Jimmy Stewart's Wyatt Earp shoots an old nemesis under the table while he's busy playing cards. Forget all that official Star Wars history that Lucas feeds you. George owes everything to Kurosawa and Ford.

  • April 14, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Wow.

    by Pariah74

    You're right and clueless at the same time. You have never heard of Flash Gordon Conquers the Universe? Or heard GL say that he wanted to make Flash Gordon but couldn't get the rights? Ever wonder what the connection between Boba Fett, Commando Cody and Radar Men from the Moon is? Go sit down until you know something.

  • April 14, 2008, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Chishu_Ryu

    by Pariah74

    Here. http://tinyurl.com/57su9h Now go learn something. You don't know dick about Star Wars except what you have regurgitated about Kurosawa.

  • April 14, 2008, 7:40 p.m. CST

    Pariah74

    by Chishu_Ryu

    That's your god George Lucas feeding you religious BS at the altar of Star Wars, friend. Episode IV is a near re-make of Kurosawa's Hidden Fortress. Lucas doesn't readily admit that cuz he likes taking the credit himself. Who wouldn't? I could tell you nearly scene for scene the movies Lucas stole from to patch together Star Wars. Let me know if you're interested...

  • April 14, 2008, 8:03 p.m. CST

    Pariah74, your website actually backs me...

    by Chishu_Ryu

    ...on the next page hit about Kurosawa, that is. Yeah, sure, there are elements taken from those old sci-fi yarns, Tolkein, whatever. But the spirit of Star Wars lies with Kurosawa. The Jedi are inter-galactic samurai. Toshiro Mifune uses a mind trick akin to the Jedi Mind Trick on an enemy guard in Hidden Fortress. The idea of mechanization (DeathStar, laser guns) vs. tradition (the Force, light sabers) is from Kurosawa. Idea of great potential within the lowly and meek is from Hidden Fortress. It's all there.

  • April 15, 2008, 12:33 a.m. CST

    Wouldn't it make sense

    by INWOsuxRED

    for the film with the most mass appeal to be the one that made the most money and/or sold the most tickets? ANH did both, so how do you figure Empire had the mainstream appeal?

  • April 15, 2008, 7:29 a.m. CST

    At the time, Empire was a downturn

    by Thunderbolt Ross

    from Star Wars - critically and commercially.

  • April 15, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST

    Chishu_Ryu

    by Pariah74

    You are thick as mud. I said you were right. If you could follow the context of my comments you would see that what i was pointing out was ESB reviewed as a stand alone film vs. a second act. In that context you told me "The only thing Star Wars has in common with Buck Rogers and Flash Gordon is that they're all outer space adventures." So you are right about Kurosawa and I never denied that. You are wrong about Flash Gordon and still missed my entire point. You are really slow, aren't you...too slow for me to dick with. Yeesh!

  • April 15, 2008, 10:38 a.m. CST

    INWOsuxRED

    by Pariah74

    ESB has the mainstream appeal NOW. Most people like it the best out of all the films.