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Published on Saturday, April 5, 2008 - 5:26pm |
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Partners In Crime!! Three Reviews Of DOCTOR WHO 4.1!!
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If I’m not mistaken, episode 30.1 (or 4.1, depending how one counts) of “Doctor Who” arrives on America’s SciFi Channel April 25, one week subsequent to SciFi’s transmission of the 2007 “Who” Christmas special.
The Brits saw it today.
“Doctor Dan” gives it a three out of five:
DOCTOR WHO 4.1 – "Partners In Crime"
Writer: Russell T. Davies
Director: James Strong
Cast: David Tennant (The Doctor), Catherine Tate (Donna Noble), Sarah Lancashire (Miss Foster), Bernard Cribbins (Wilfred Mott), Jacqueline King (Sylvia Noble), Verona Joseph (Penny Carter), Jessica Gunning (Stacey Harris), Martin Ball (Roger Davey), Rachid Sabitri (Craig Staniland), Chandra Ruegg (Clare Pope), Sue Kelvin (Suzette Chambers) & Jonathan Stratt (Taxi Driver)
The Doctor is reacquainted with Donna, who helps him stop the manufacture of a deadly weight-loss pill...
Forgetting the bland Voyage Of The Damned at Christmas, the last time we saw The Doctor he had just bid farewell to Martha Jones, who decided to take a sabbatical from her adventures with the Time Lord. The premiere of season 4, Partners In Crime, opens in similar fashion to Martha's season 3 debut, with one-off companion Donna (Catherine Tate) also striding purposefully down a busy London street – but unaware The Doctor is on the same street, for exactly the same reason...
Donna, posing as a health and safety officer, infiltrates the offices of Adipose Industries, a business offering a miracle drug to help the country's overweight population. In extended sequences, it transpires that The Doctor is also investigating the mysterious company, although Donna and The Doctor comically avoid meeting each other directly. Donna eventually goes to meet slimmer Stacey Harris (Jessica Gunning), while The Doctor visits Martin (Roger Davey), who is very happy with the Adipose pill, but confused about why his burglar alarm has started going off at 1.10 am every morning...
The riddle is answered by Donna, as Stacey goes upstairs to the bathroom, leaving Donna to fiddle with a gold pendant Adipose Industries hand out as freebies to every customer. After absent-mindedly twisting the pill-shaped pendant, it triggers a reaction in Stacey upstairs – who watches in horror as her stomach flesh begins to pulsate, eventually turning her whole body to slush. Concerned, Donna bursts into the bathroom to find a puddle of Stacey's clothes on the floor and a small, marshmallow-like, chubby alien perched on the bathroom window! According to Adipose Industries' executive Miss Foster (Sarah Lancashire), the pendant triggered premature "parthenogenesis" in Stacey Harris, and she dispatches some of her employees to clean up the scene.
From there, we get a better understanding of Donna's current situation after her adventure with The Doctor in The Runaway Bride Christmas Special. She's living with her irritating mother Sylvia (Jacqueline King), but prefers to spend time with her "Gramps" Wilfred (Bernard Cribbins), who spends his days "up the hill" on his allotment, staring at the stars through a telescope. Donna hasn't told her family about her dalliance with aliens, or the real circumstances behind her wedding day fiasco, but makes it clear to her Gramps that she's waiting for "the right man" to come along – in similar fashion to how Torchwood's Captain Jack spent season 1 waiting for "the right kind of doctor".
There's a great scene for The Doctor inside the TARDIS, as he realizes he's talking to himself, signifying his unease at being a lone adventurer, but he's soon back at Adipose to single-handedly thwart Miss Foster's plans. He snoops on Miss Foster by using an outside window-cleaning rig to position himself outside her office window, to hear Miss Foster berating one of her employees, Penny Carter (Verona Joseph), who appears to have cottoned-on to her plan...
Donna also arrives, and there's a brilliant scene where The Doctor and Donna finally clasp eyes on each other, albeit from behind a sound-proof window and door, on opposite ends of Miss Foster's office. Possibly intended as a joke at Catherine Tate's brash nature during Runaway Bride, I thought it was particularly amusing of writer Russell T. Davies to have Donna shout and "overact" from behind solid glass, effectively having to mime her histrionics. It was a really nice touch, and the scene has a funny pay-off when Miss Foster calmly interjects on The Doctor and Donna's silent "conversation."
The Doctor and Donna are finally reunited, with Miss Foster in hot pursuit (armed with a sonic pen), which she uses to trap them both on the window cleaning-rig – with Donna dangling from the broken rig, and The Doctor seconds away from a freefall to death. However, after managing to knock Miss Foster's sonic pen away with a ricochet effect from his sonic screwdriver, he manages to get them both to safety inside the Adipose office block.
In typical villainous fashion, Miss Foster and two armed goons eventually locate The Doctor and Donna, and she monologues her nefarious plot: to use Earth as an alternative "breeding planet" for the Adiposian First Family. Behind the wall of the office block is a large system called The Inducer, which can make the 1 million users of her slimming pill go into parthenogenesis and transform into millions of tiny alien Adipose children immediately. The Doctor slips away from Miss Foster with Donna, by creating a sonic wave blast from his screwdriver and her pen, before finding a cupboard with access to The Inducer.
Miss Foster starts the Inducer system, and overweight pill-takers across London begin to contort in pain as their body fat coalesces into chubby aliens. The Doctor uses one of Adipose Industries' pendants to dampen the effects of The Inducers, but is at a loss once Miss Foster increases the power. Fortunately, Donna has another pendant to hand, and the two combined manage to override the system. Still, Miss Foster is happy that 10,000 Adipose have been created, and the thousands of chubby aliens march together down London streets, as their nursery ship (looking extremely similar to the Mothership in Close Encounters Of The Third Kind) descends to collect them.
On the roof, The Doctor and Donna watch the Adipose babies float upwards to the nursery ship through the night sky, along with Miss Foster. The Doctor warns her to escape the ship's tractor beam, but she's convinced she'll be handsomely rewarded by the Adiposian First Family for her duties as nanny. But, of course, as The Doctor warned, the Adiposians have to need for a "foster mother" now that their children have been born, and she plummets to the ground.
With disaster averted (or at least limited) by The Doctor, Donna practically invites herself along for more adventures. The Doctor only seems to half-remember inviting Donna along once before, but now she's convinced it's the right thing to do. In fact, she's already fully packed with suitcases filling the boot of her car. The Doctor, despite being lonely, makes it clear that things got complicated with Martha, but seems happy once Donna makes it clear that she doesn’t fancy him.
Donna leaves her car parked in an alley next to the TARDIS, puts the car keys in a nearby bin, and phones her mum to say goodbye. Just before she leaves, Donna asks a blonde-haired girl to keep an eye out for her mum, and as she rushes off to be with The Doctor, the girl turns around and reveals herself as Rose! Then, Rose walks away, fading like a ghost, until she disappears...
The episode closes with Gramps still in his allotment looking through his telescope at the stars, as the TARDIS spins into view, with The Doctor and Donna clearly visible through its open front door. As Gramps yelps with joy, the TARDIS ascends to the heavens, taking his granddaughter on the ride of her life...
Russell T. Davies manages to deliver a very effective premiere, which entertainingly reintroduces Donna Noble and tweaks her character away from the irritating loudness that caused such upset in The Runaway Bride special. There are moments when Donna's feisty nature comes through, but it's tempered by a more whimsical air and infectious enthusiasm. Above all, it's just nice to have a companion who categorically has no intention of smooching with The Doctor, and therefore should result in a fresher Doctor/companion relationship.
The episode's basic idea is perhaps better suited to The Sarah Jane Adventures, but the sense of fun and some genuinely funny moments help make it palatable for adult audiences. And I'm sure kids will love the adorable Adipose babies, as you can already imagine them as cuddly toys for Christmas '08. The sequences with the hundreds of Adipodes were apparently created using the "Massive FX" computer software used in Lord Of The Rings, and it's certainly a noticeable improvement over the swarms of Daleks we've seen on the show before now.
Partners In Crime certainly kept me entertained throughout, and I was struck by the instant chemistry between The Doctor and Donna, with Catherine Tate particularly enjoyable, and David Tennant now firmly embodying the wandering Time Lord with a level of authority not seen since Peter Davison's days on the show. He just lacks the iconic presence of Tom Baker, really, but he's still marvellous to watch bounce through scenes.
And what about the surprise early appearance from Rose? I didn't see that coming, although I did realize it was Rose just from the colour/style of her hair, before her face was revealed. Is that sad? It looks likely she's season 4's "arc" element -- to be sprinkled throughout the 13 episodes -- but why is she back? Her ghost-like disappearance hints at the likelihood she's found a way to cross dimensions from her own parallel universe into ours, but for what purpose?
Overall, Partners In Crime was a competent, efficient and entertaining start to the new season. There were the usual gripes with Doctor Who in evidence (the overuse of the sonic screwdriver, primarily), and I'm confused about Gramps musing on the secrets of the universe – as he debuted in Voyage Of The Damned as a local awaiting alien invasion because the previous two Christmases both featured alien attacks on London – but never mind. Doctor Who and Torchwood have always featured populations with implausible reactions to alien first contact, and very bad memories...
All said, I found this to be a good episode with more to recommend than to pick fault with. Catherine Tate might not be as physically attractive as Billie Piper and Freema Agyeman, but she does bring a welcome change of dynamic and her character has definitely improved from Runaway Bride on the evidence of this. I'm more excited about the possibilities of season 4 than I was yesterday.
The Good
1. Catherine Tate and David Tennant. No, I didn’t like Donna in The Runaway Bride either, but she was absolutely fine in this opener. Tate's comic timing boosted some scenes, and her interaction with David Tennant was great to watch.
2. The Adipose were extremely cute creations, and I particularly liked the visuals for them en masse.
3. Sarah Lancashire had a clichéd role as an evil executive, but she was still fun to watch trotting around in black spectacles and blood-red lipstick.
4. The comedy can sometimes be eye-rolling on Doctor Who, but there were some great moments of comedy in this episode – particularly regarding Donna and The Doctor's near-misses, her mention of the Titanic spaceship over Buckingham Palace as "a hoax", Gramps missing a giant spaceship floating past behind him, and when it's revealed Donna keeps her car packed just in case she finds The Doctor.
5. The unexpected appearance by Billie Piper as Rose. The show has difficulty keeping secrets – so we already know Rose was due back in season 4 – but not in the first episode!
The Bad
1. The story worked well, but I'm not a fan of the sillier plots Doctor Who often deals in – particularly because I thought the idea behind Sarah Jane Adventures' creation was to move the more kid-friendly stories into that show. I know the show has to tailor for 8-year-olds as well as 80-year-olds, but I think plots about fat-based aliens growing out of peoples' bodies would be best suited on the Sarah Jane show.
2. Yes, more overuse of the sonic screwdriver to get out of any plot dead-ends and tight spots. It's almost painful.
3. Bernard Cribbins already seems to be the best family member for a companion since Jackie Tyler.
4. It feels like Russell T. Davies has a basic story template that he refuses to budge from, which meant this episode mostly felt like it was on rails whenever it focused on Adipose Industries and Miss Foster. The "evil company" and "evil business person" is a staple of Who, Torchwood and Sarah Jane.
The Geeky
1. Actor Howard Atfield, who played Donna's father Geoff in The Runaway Bride, died after filming that 2006 special, so his character was replaced by Bernard Cribbins as Donna's grandfather.
2. This episode features the first use of Massive FX software on television; after its creation by New Zealand 's WETA special-effects house to create crowd scenes of digital characters in the Lord Of The Rings trilogy.
Rating: 3 / 5
“The Handsome 12th Doctor” says it’s “the best opening episode yet of new-Who”:
Who's back? Yes it is.
And with a change of personnel. Martha My Dear has taken leave for a while. Pixie Minogue was only a temporary substitute. Leaving us with the return of Donna (Catherine Tate).
Now I'm aware of a fair amount of Tate-hate out there. There exists a remarkably large group of Tate-haters, or Taters as I'll refer to them from now. And I don't get why this is.
Sure, you might not like her sketch show. I don't myself. But that's no reason to hate the woman. It's not as if she walks around all day going "Am I bovvered". I've seen her perform well in enough other things, such as 'Scenes of a Sexual Nature' or 'Big Train', that I'm able to separate her from the bovveredness.
Though if there's one justifiable weapon that the Taters possess it's that her character of Donna from two Christmases ago was a bit of an irritant. And I'd agree that if she played the role exactly like that for a full season then it would be an annoying show. However, judging from tonight's episode she's changed her approach. It was a nicely more restrained performance (apart from a moment or two at the end). She showed she can do the sober stuff as well as the funny.
If she continues the same way then she should, I hope, quieten a lot of the Taters.
But enough of the Tater waffling....... what about the rest of the show?
It was the best opening episode yet of new-Who. I may have said that this time last year but I was right then and I'm right again now. The story was fun and original and moved along at a very good pace.
The comedy elements were pretty sharp. I enjoyed the miming scene between the Doctor and Donna, and even though I could tell what the punchline to that was going to be I still laughed. I also laughed a lot at the actions of the Adipose, which I think are the best bizarro creations that new-Who has done so far. Looking like a Barbapapa family reunion these 'things' scuttled about in their hundreds. And in one case slid down a car bonnet like it was a ride. Well done to the effects team that did them.
Would it be weird to say I want a soft toy version of one?
Sarah Lancashire played a fine baddie. Though I felt her end scene could have been done better. That was the only down point of the ep to me.
David Tennant remains a brilliant Doc. And he and Tate look to have a winning dynamic together. I like that they've stated this early on that they're going to be 'just mates'. We've had enough of the girlies fawning over him.
Speaking of which.......... Her? There? Whoa. How?
It's going to be cool finding out. I'm looking forward greatly to the rest of the season. And I've been told they'll be visiting some worlds that are even more alien than London.
Scary.
The Handsome 12th Doctor
“Kelvington” notes the episode ends with a “holy shit” moment:
Well, tonight marks the return of Doctor Who and sort of a reboot, in that the episode opens up almost like series 1 with a female character living her life and going through the motions. But instead of Rose, this time it's Donna. She wants to find the Doctor and looks anywhere that there appears to be trouble. Including a company selling a rather dodgey diet pill, where the fat literally walks away from you.
Now the first fifteen minutes is played very much like a like romantic comedy where the Doctor and Donna almost see each other many times, but never quite manage it. Similar to that episode of the X-Files set in two different times. But once Donna and the Doctor meet up again, they are on the hunt to figure out what is going on at the fat company.
Mark this day well, because you will see an ENDLESS amount of posts about the little walking chicklets that were once human fat, being the Ewoks of "Doctor Who", and if they haven't already made at least of a million of them to sell around the world they are crazy. Every kid who likes "Doctor Who" will demand an entire little of the little buggers for their own.
As the episode progresses we see the Doctor and Donna nearly die from falling out of a window washer cart, escape getting shot to death, and defeat the mean Ms. Foster the nanny to all the little walking blobs.
The effects in this one are very cute, and the chicklets are so sweet that many people watching the show will die of diabetes before it's finished. But the rip of the Close Encounters style ship didn't sit well with me.
Now on to the end, while I'm not going to spoil the last minute or two of the show, it was one of the few times when in the history of "Doctor Who" I was actually surprised, thus I won't ruin it here, but when the moment comes, I think you will go HOLY SHIT! It was just that good!
Just my 2¢

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Reader Talkback
Catherine Tate by Call me Kenneth | Apr 5th, 2008 05:33:11 PM | Can't wait can't wait can't
wait.... by R L S | Apr 5th, 2008 05:38:58 PM | It really sucks that TVLinks
got shut down... by R L S | Apr 5th, 2008 05:40:05 PM | It wasn't THAT good by supertoyslast | Apr 5th, 2008 05:40:18 PM | Dr Who by NudeandAroused | Apr 5th, 2008 05:45:18 PM | Attention Americans! by Call me Kenneth | Apr 5th, 2008 05:46:09 PM | It was mostly good by photoboy | Apr 5th, 2008 05:46:24 PM | it was ok but rose was ace by prime666 | Apr 5th, 2008 05:54:03 PM | i'm a Tater by Cedar_Room | Apr 5th, 2008 05:59:09 PM | To Cedar_Room, the Tater by The Handsome 12th Doctor | Apr 5th, 2008 06:10:12 PM | Weak by kuryakin | Apr 5th, 2008 06:22:07 PM | First review should have been
cut in half by performingmonkey | Apr 5th, 2008 07:27:21 PM | RTD delivers his usual brand
of shitness. by TinSpider | Apr 5th, 2008 07:29:57 PM | review length by danowen | Apr 5th, 2008 07:33:21 PM | it was sucess..... by Gabba-UK | Apr 5th, 2008 08:07:39 PM | Sorry about the poor use of
some of my English... by Gabba-UK | Apr 5th, 2008 08:22:15 PM | fucking terrible by Mr_X | Apr 5th, 2008 08:30:59 PM | Holy Shit! A Doctor Who
talkback?!?! by ZeroCorpse | Apr 5th, 2008 08:37:37 PM | It is great by Nortimus | Apr 5th, 2008 08:42:08 PM | this weeks torchwood on the
other hand by Mr_X | Apr 5th, 2008 08:43:37 PM | "Review" doesn't mean "plot
summary" by Mr Willi | Apr 5th, 2008 08:44:03 PM | Tate by Specktron | Apr 5th, 2008 08:44:45 PM | This week's Torchwood was
good. (spoilers) by ZeroCorpse | Apr 5th, 2008 08:53:14 PM | i would if i had to by Mr_X | Apr 5th, 2008 08:53:49 PM | Must...find...torrent... by Kurutteru Yatsu | Apr 5th, 2008 08:56:55 PM | zerocorpse by Mr_X | Apr 5th, 2008 08:57:08 PM | I am bovered. by O_Goncho | Apr 5th, 2008 09:12:27 PM | Comply or Die by proper | Apr 5th, 2008 09:25:21 PM | Very Good Episode by jtishere | Apr 5th, 2008 09:50:12 PM | I hate this show. by I Hope You Die | Apr 5th, 2008 09:54:39 PM | I would love to watch season 4 by Kovac | Apr 5th, 2008 09:55:03 PM | It'll Get Worse by albermarle | Apr 5th, 2008 09:57:18 PM | The Adipose by EyeofPolyphemus | Apr 5th, 2008 09:59:24 PM | Those aliens with the
flatulence aren't back, are
they? by kabong | Apr 5th, 2008 10:52:25 PM | Does Anyone thing that RTD's
subtle hints for the series
are not by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 5th, 2008 11:20:57 PM | I enjoyed the episode
though... by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 5th, 2008 11:23:41 PM | Wasn't Martha supposed to show
up on Torchwood? by punto | Apr 5th, 2008 11:34:11 PM | She does show up by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 5th, 2008 11:37:24 PM | Head In A Box by Kurutteru Yatsu | Apr 5th, 2008 11:55:56 PM | Catherine Tate's other work. by RenoNevada2000 | Apr 6th, 2008 12:02:25 AM | Is it me, or is Russel Davies
making DR Who gay? by OBSD | Apr 6th, 2008 12:28:29 AM | Martha was bril on Torchwood. by ZeroCorpse | Apr 6th, 2008 01:08:56 AM | Ahh. Yes. RIP Toshiko's
cleavage. by ZeroCorpse | Apr 6th, 2008 01:11:16 AM | A strange brew,indeed.. by The True Priapic | Apr 6th, 2008 01:32:34 AM | Thanks for covering this
but... by gotilk | Apr 6th, 2008 01:41:09 AM | TORCHWOOD! by Dataset | Apr 6th, 2008 01:50:16 AM | Russel T Davies - The
Anti-Christ!! by Tigravaya | Apr 6th, 2008 02:54:44 AM | Awesome ep! by DimensionsPlural | Apr 6th, 2008 04:05:58 AM | I've given up on nu-Who.. by UltraMeerkat | Apr 6th, 2008 04:17:06 AM | train wreck by punto | Apr 6th, 2008 04:22:37 AM | I see that You Taters Have not
watched Dr Who Confidential by Roborob | Apr 6th, 2008 04:41:13 AM | So.... To summarise whats been
said on the Talkback so far... by Gabba-UK | Apr 6th, 2008 05:15:12 AM | And to those defending Tate... by Gabba-UK | Apr 6th, 2008 05:23:42 AM | I Thought the episode was
flat by emeraldboy | Apr 6th, 2008 05:35:04 AM | Of course there is no mention
of Cribbens being in the Dalek
inv by wowsah156 | Apr 6th, 2008 05:39:53 AM | ATMOS by executiverocker | Apr 6th, 2008 05:40:39 AM | After a few hours to let it
sink in.. by The True Priapic | Apr 6th, 2008 05:48:44 AM | The Doctor is IN !!! by RobinP | Apr 6th, 2008 05:58:24 AM | Donna :"I don't FANC' YOOO!" by The True Priapic | Apr 6th, 2008 06:15:50 AM | REGARDING SPOILERS by Ray Gamma | Apr 6th, 2008 06:25:55 AM | what a bunch of whiners by Mr Willi | Apr 6th, 2008 07:12:26 AM | No more sonic screwdriver
please!!!!!! by daglesj | Apr 6th, 2008 07:40:20 AM | Taters by The Handsome 12th Doctor | Apr 6th, 2008 07:48:43 AM | Catherine Tate by palewook | Apr 6th, 2008 07:48:54 AM | Plus.... by daglesj | Apr 6th, 2008 07:49:00 AM | oh dear... by metaluna | Apr 6th, 2008 07:58:02 AM | re: daglesj by Ray Gamma | Apr 6th, 2008 08:11:53 AM | Oh my god, I hate nerds so
much by jacobkosh | Apr 6th, 2008 08:46:34 AM | What is the Shadow
Proclamation? by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 6th, 2008 09:14:13 AM | I hate nerds by supertoyslast | Apr 6th, 2008 09:15:27 AM | What is the Shadow
Proclamation? by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 6th, 2008 09:15:28 AM | Shadow Proclamation by supertoyslast | Apr 6th, 2008 09:20:17 AM | I'm a Tater and proud of it! by BiggusDickus | Apr 6th, 2008 09:23:22 AM | Re: Oh my god, I hate nerds so
much by Tigravaya | Apr 6th, 2008 09:28:02 AM | Catherine Tate by Finklestone | Apr 6th, 2008 09:38:47 AM | I can't believe I am actually
saying this...Torchwood > Who?
by Desmondo | Apr 6th, 2008 09:41:03 AM | re: jacobkosh by Ray Gamma | Apr 6th, 2008 09:57:31 AM | Glad I didn't read that first
review. by gotilk | Apr 6th, 2008 10:05:00 AM | TORCHWOOD series 2 by palimpsest | Apr 6th, 2008 10:10:22 AM | Will Tate grow on me? by gotilk | Apr 6th, 2008 10:13:20 AM | Loving the Adipose by carefulsilly | Apr 6th, 2008 10:15:57 AM | The Whole vs the Sum of the
Parts by Dreamfasting | Apr 6th, 2008 10:41:53 AM | please don't ¨update¨ Davros by Ray Gamma | Apr 6th, 2008 10:42:24 AM | Wasn't John Simm announced as
the next doctor? by BiggusDickus | Apr 6th, 2008 10:57:51 AM | Davros by carefulsilly | Apr 6th, 2008 11:06:56 AM | John SImm was announced by Cedar_Room | Apr 6th, 2008 11:08:38 AM | Davros. by The True Priapic | Apr 6th, 2008 11:08:39 AM | All things sonic by Kurutteru Yatsu | Apr 6th, 2008 11:44:36 AM | Simm by Kurutteru Yatsu | Apr 6th, 2008 11:48:42 AM | The silent conversation by kwisatzhaderach | Apr 6th, 2008 12:25:54 PM | ate... just lesve her slone! by funkyknitwear | Apr 6th, 2008 01:32:50 PM | Doctor Who and
Torchwood...What the HELL is
wrong with you peopl by JillianneSix | Apr 6th, 2008 01:33:10 PM | I don't hate Tate, or Rose. I
just want more Martha by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 6th, 2008 01:57:54 PM | Question: I just saw I,
Claudius recently and in the
first by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 6th, 2008 02:02:13 PM | re: JillianneSix by Ray Gamma | Apr 6th, 2008 02:14:59 PM | I thought Tate was excellent. by Smashing | Apr 6th, 2008 02:18:31 PM | re: Smashing by Ray Gamma | Apr 6th, 2008 02:33:22 PM | ps by Ray Gamma | Apr 6th, 2008 02:39:34 PM | Dr Who as good as Battlestar
Galactica???? by Tigravaya | Apr 6th, 2008 02:39:50 PM | billie pipers saggy old boobs by JacktheRaper | Apr 6th, 2008 02:43:26 PM | Ray Gamma by Smashing | Apr 6th, 2008 02:45:36 PM | Tigravaya don't start that gay
agenda bullshit again. by Smashing | Apr 6th, 2008 02:53:05 PM | Shame Billie Piper came back by Steve Rogers | Apr 6th, 2008 02:54:43 PM | Don't hate her because she's
beautiful Freema's by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 6th, 2008 02:54:48 PM | More Moffat! by Automaton Overlord | Apr 6th, 2008 03:13:38 PM | Davros is being updated. by zootlewurdle | Apr 6th, 2008 03:15:29 PM | Never change Davros. His look
was iconic by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 6th, 2008 03:29:57 PM | Braca was his Nyder. by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 6th, 2008 03:32:03 PM | And Sean Pertwee as the new
Brigadier in charge of Unit by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 6th, 2008 03:33:46 PM | Pirate Bay is your friend by Stile | Apr 6th, 2008 03:37:14 PM | Let me put it another way... by Ray Gamma | Apr 6th, 2008 03:43:44 PM | The Gay Agenda: We Want to Get
Laid by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 6th, 2008 03:44:32 PM | I should also add... by Ray Gamma | Apr 6th, 2008 03:47:31 PM | And Moffat Does Rule. I'll
watch anything he by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 6th, 2008 03:51:09 PM | Russell, if you're reading
this... by Ray Gamma | Apr 6th, 2008 03:51:33 PM | Bernard Cribbins:Old time Dr.
Who by JML9999 | Apr 6th, 2008 04:27:55 PM | moffat is the only guy by OBSD | Apr 6th, 2008 04:48:14 PM | Shockingly good episode by INWOsuxRED | Apr 6th, 2008 05:32:09 PM | Kurutteru Yatsu, think about
it.......... by axcel1 | Apr 6th, 2008 06:20:56 PM | Tate has potential to actually
grow by INWOsuxRED | Apr 6th, 2008 06:21:12 PM | First use of Massive on TV? by Pixeldriver | Apr 6th, 2008 07:31:22 PM | Love the Doctor by Evil Chicken | Apr 6th, 2008 08:44:42 PM | Doctor Who on Sci-fi by DiernaSoul | Apr 6th, 2008 09:36:17 PM | Mixed bag. too short by jccalhoun | Apr 6th, 2008 09:56:16 PM | good overall by omarthesnake | Apr 6th, 2008 10:17:14 PM | Very quickly, because it's
late by JillianneSix | Apr 6th, 2008 11:32:38 PM | axcel1, re: Simm by Kurutteru Yatsu | Apr 7th, 2008 12:02:57 AM | Also on the subject of cast
changes by Kurutteru Yatsu | Apr 7th, 2008 12:07:14 AM | Dr Who is GAY ISLAMIC
propaganda! by Antifanboy | Apr 7th, 2008 02:42:06 AM | it sucked donkey's balls by mrswing | Apr 7th, 2008 03:12:26 AM | Infinite Quest question by RokurGepta | Apr 7th, 2008 03:44:44 AM | Big Brother .... by hardy24 | Apr 7th, 2008 04:18:10 AM | To Ray Gamma - re: 'scaring
the living wits...' by BiggusDickus | Apr 7th, 2008 05:13:39 AM | my 2 favorite new who episodes
are... by RokurGepta | Apr 7th, 2008 05:32:53 AM | Answer to Question by Tigravaya | Apr 7th, 2008 05:48:55 AM | Tigravaya, thank you thank you by RokurGepta | Apr 7th, 2008 06:05:22 AM | To m by Tigravaya | Apr 7th, 2008 06:42:32 AM | To RokurGepta by Tigravaya | Apr 7th, 2008 06:44:26 AM | Tigravaya.... by RokurGepta | Apr 7th, 2008 06:54:24 AM | Rose: This season's villain or
another Bad Wolf? by Hagakure | Apr 7th, 2008 07:36:59 AM | I think Henryu Ian
Cusik--Desmond from Lost by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 7th, 2008 08:17:45 AM | CrichtonAstronut speaks the
truth! Cusick for the 11th
Doctor! by SpyGuy | Apr 7th, 2008 08:27:08 AM | I think all writers have their
idiosincracies and habits by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 7th, 2008 08:36:35 AM | Fuck a doodle do by pidpoid | Apr 7th, 2008 08:43:52 AM | Tate is boring... but if
Billie is back I'll watch by cyrent | Apr 7th, 2008 09:52:06 AM | Catherine FUCKING Tate by Lost Jarv | Apr 7th, 2008 10:37:08 AM | I liked Bernard Cribbins... by Sledge Hammer | Apr 7th, 2008 10:46:27 AM | Children nowadays grow up in a
world in which they can be
murder by Smashing | Apr 7th, 2008 10:52:35 AM | I love Catherine Tate by dang2010 | Apr 7th, 2008 10:53:06 AM | In which they can be murdered
at school by Smashing | Apr 7th, 2008 10:54:53 AM | Blink was brilliantly creepy.
I'm hoping that by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 7th, 2008 11:17:22 AM | Check out Small Worlds on
Torchwood too by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 7th, 2008 11:21:34 AM | I never liked Martha by O_Goncho | Apr 7th, 2008 11:23:36 AM | Blink was the best though.
And Empty Child by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 7th, 2008 11:27:51 AM | don't over react, peeps... by lynxpro | Apr 7th, 2008 11:35:12 AM | Think I gotta call you on
missuse of the term gey by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 7th, 2008 11:44:02 AM | meant gay not gey by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 7th, 2008 11:44:31 AM | Bring back Verity Lambert! by Automaton Overlord | Apr 7th, 2008 11:57:53 AM | If only we could, Automaton
Overlord... by SpyGuy | Apr 7th, 2008 01:29:45 PM | To all CATH HATERS( most of
)you are just a bunch of
stupid apes by earlfist | Apr 7th, 2008 02:07:27 PM | Moffat's has TWO episodes... by danowen | Apr 7th, 2008 02:58:40 PM | christ by Ray Gamma | Apr 7th, 2008 03:39:29 PM | martha replaces owen next
season by dang2010 | Apr 7th, 2008 04:37:28 PM | Meh by Fuck The Napkin | Apr 7th, 2008 05:13:09 PM | zzz by slkboxrman | Apr 7th, 2008 05:17:08 PM | Meh, it was OK by spud mcspud | Apr 7th, 2008 05:23:32 PM | SFX magazine by spud mcspud | Apr 7th, 2008 05:29:07 PM | Speaking of Torchwood.... by The Handsome 12th Doctor | Apr 7th, 2008 05:36:22 PM | Dr. Who was.... by Batman Begins Sucks Ass | Apr 7th, 2008 05:39:46 PM | Handsome 12th Doctor by spud mcspud | Apr 7th, 2008 05:56:00 PM | Tigravaya & Spud, and "I Told
You So" for AICN. by ZeroCorpse | Apr 7th, 2008 07:49:29 PM | Oh, wait. nevermind Spud. by ZeroCorpse | Apr 7th, 2008 07:53:13 PM | Three Oranges by JillianneSix | Apr 7th, 2008 10:17:01 PM | Whatever, Dude by JillianneSix | Apr 7th, 2008 10:20:48 PM | Spud by JillianneSix | Apr 7th, 2008 10:28:50 PM | Handsome 12 by JillianneSix | Apr 7th, 2008 10:30:11 PM | Zero Corpse by JillianneSix | Apr 7th, 2008 10:35:35 PM | gay agenda by dang2010 | Apr 7th, 2008 10:43:54 PM | as for ripping off stuff... by lynxpro | Apr 7th, 2008 11:10:27 PM | tennant is a great who by dang2010 | Apr 7th, 2008 11:53:21 PM | Good god by Lost Jarv | Apr 8th, 2008 03:22:37 AM | lynxpro by David Cloverfield | Apr 8th, 2008 03:38:24 AM | I hear the criticisms of
Who/Torchwood... by sean bean | Apr 8th, 2008 03:48:17 AM | And speaking of which, by sean bean | Apr 8th, 2008 03:52:13 AM | ZeroCorpse by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 03:58:27 AM | PIGS IN SPACE! by ROBE | Apr 8th, 2008 04:25:55 AM | Jillianne Six by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 04:27:44 AM | RTD can write by Lost Jarv | Apr 8th, 2008 05:52:07 AM | Spud by Lost Jarv | Apr 8th, 2008 05:53:20 AM | Jarv by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 07:39:57 AM | RTD is spread too thin.... by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 8th, 2008 07:53:47 AM | Has Spud turned this into a
"gay agenda" talkback yet? by INWOsuxRED | Apr 8th, 2008 09:40:07 AM | INWOsuxRED by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 09:46:50 AM | Fucking hated Love and
Monsters by Lost Jarv | Apr 8th, 2008 10:03:38 AM | Jesus Christ! by Midnightxpress | Apr 8th, 2008 10:05:43 AM | Where can I get a copy of the
RTD's Gay Manifesto? by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 8th, 2008 10:32:40 AM | Spud does that mean 12 more
weeks of your weak anti gay
drivel? by Smashing | Apr 8th, 2008 10:34:13 AM | I Miss Galifrey..... by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 8th, 2008 10:34:44 AM | We Need Some Rassilon by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 8th, 2008 10:37:16 AM | I am tired of the
not-so-subtle gay references
in Who by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 8th, 2008 10:41:39 AM | Darfur as sci-fi fans do we
all hate human drama? by Smashing | Apr 8th, 2008 10:47:16 AM | Hang on a second smashing by Lost Jarv | Apr 8th, 2008 10:52:05 AM | You hang on. by Smashing | Apr 8th, 2008 10:59:50 AM | Human drama is fine as long as
there is a balance by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 8th, 2008 11:20:32 AM | Re: Doctor Who is gay by youhatestarwars | Apr 8th, 2008 12:29:12 PM | I think they should get rid of
all the heterosexual
characters by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 8th, 2008 01:42:45 PM | I have liked that aspect of
both Doctor Who and Torchwood by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 8th, 2008 01:47:25 PM | And apparently,
youhatesstarwars is also
gay... by SpyGuy | Apr 8th, 2008 01:56:36 PM | BTW I love the term Cath
Haters. Say it fast.
Brilliant by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 8th, 2008 01:57:37 PM | Smashing - you hang on!! by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 02:14:26 PM | Jarv by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 02:17:11 PM | CrichtonAstronut by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 02:18:48 PM | Darfur by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 02:39:13 PM | Actually, the lesbian couple
in Gridlock, as well as by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 8th, 2008 02:52:08 PM | CrichtonAstronut by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 03:04:53 PM | ChrichtonAstronut by Automaton Overlord | Apr 8th, 2008 03:11:34 PM | I understand what your saying.
But I think the fact that by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 8th, 2008 03:30:39 PM | Doesn't that depend on many
factors? by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 03:44:12 PM | James Marsters by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 03:52:15 PM | The most surprising thing in
this talkback... by The Handsome 12th Doctor | Apr 8th, 2008 04:09:31 PM | Handsome 12th Doctor by spud mcspud | Apr 8th, 2008 04:13:08 PM | Automaton Overlord. Good
point but it's not stated by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 8th, 2008 04:31:33 PM | I think there should be a UNIT
series written by by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 8th, 2008 04:39:22 PM | Oh right spud your not a
bigot, just against the gay
agenda. by Smashing | Apr 8th, 2008 04:44:45 PM | It is interesting that Marster
as an American sees by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 8th, 2008 04:56:48 PM | Spyguy by youhatestarwars | Apr 8th, 2008 05:42:46 PM | more gay agenda by dang2010 | Apr 8th, 2008 10:00:48 PM | Tosh DID mention meeting The
Doctor... by Bill Clay | Apr 8th, 2008 10:35:09 PM | The UNIT spinoff would be
good, but............... by axcel1 | Apr 8th, 2008 11:48:58 PM | You're just a nasty little
closed minded prick by Lost Jarv | Apr 9th, 2008 03:18:01 AM | biopinionality by saddael | Apr 9th, 2008 05:06:40 AM | It isn't gay relationships in
sci-fi that bug me by Lost Jarv | Apr 9th, 2008 07:19:32 AM | by Automaton Overlord | Apr 9th, 2008 08:47:31 AM | Now RTD "has a total
inability to sympathise" with by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 9th, 2008 09:39:55 AM | or any straight character that
has ever been on Torchwood by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 9th, 2008 09:44:52 AM | and what's with all the
exaggerated stats. "well over
80%" by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 9th, 2008 10:07:55 AM | RTD Assumes that he is the
voice for Gays... by DarfurOnTheRocks | Apr 9th, 2008 10:09:35 AM | I was specifically thinking
about the by Lost Jarv | Apr 9th, 2008 10:16:37 AM | It just seems there's a
conversion factor emerging by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 9th, 2008 10:40:19 AM | Admittedly that episode was
all about sex by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 9th, 2008 11:02:09 AM | Martha and Miockey should be
great in Torchwood by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 9th, 2008 11:03:56 AM | RTD by dang2010 | Apr 9th, 2008 11:24:15 AM | I just love terms like Agenda
or Manifesto by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 9th, 2008 12:22:53 PM | Lost Jarv you gonk. by Smashing | Apr 9th, 2008 12:30:18 PM | Torchwood by Tigravaya | Apr 9th, 2008 12:33:33 PM | Also Lost Jarv whom is this
"we" you refer too? by Smashing | Apr 9th, 2008 01:01:22 PM | Gay gay gay gay gay gay gay by carefulsilly | Apr 9th, 2008 01:30:32 PM | I like torchwood by dang2010 | Apr 9th, 2008 03:31:48 PM | How does Mickey get back to
this universe? by axcel1 | Apr 9th, 2008 03:57:03 PM | And, this just
in............................
............LOL by axcel1 | Apr 9th, 2008 04:07:56 PM | Carefulsilly, I agree with
everything you said,
but....... by axcel1 | Apr 9th, 2008 04:18:00 PM | You lot still at it then by proper | Apr 9th, 2008 05:24:28 PM | You dick smashing by Lost Jarv | Apr 10th, 2008 03:11:23 AM | I liked Daleks in New York too
it wasn't perfect, but by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 10th, 2008 09:56:15 AM | And Daleks in New Ypork would
have been way more by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 10th, 2008 09:58:08 AM | If anybody ever says Steve
M\offat suck I'm by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 10th, 2008 10:00:43 AM | Lost "marbles" Jarv officially
cannot read. by Smashing | Apr 10th, 2008 12:02:33 PM | Smashing - hoist by your own
petard! by spud mcspud | Apr 10th, 2008 01:39:19 PM | Daleks Take Manhattan by spud mcspud | Apr 10th, 2008 01:40:40 PM | Rose, Mickey etc by spud mcspud | Apr 10th, 2008 01:47:07 PM | Why I LIKE RTD by spud mcspud | Apr 10th, 2008 01:58:38 PM | Russell T Davies Bingo by spud mcspud | Apr 10th, 2008 02:15:56 PM | Interesting naval reference. by Smashing | Apr 10th, 2008 04:02:08 PM | Navel, dammit! by spud mcspud | Apr 10th, 2008 05:52:26 PM | Smashing and Spud by Lost Jarv | Apr 11th, 2008 07:12:29 AM | I tend to think that RTD meant
to write on Martha by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 11th, 2008 11:08:33 AM | We've got a new one to argue
about tomorrow by Lost Jarv | Apr 11th, 2008 11:57:22 AM | Definitely with you DS9,
Farscape, and Buffy by CrichtonAstronut | Apr 11th, 2008 12:05:14 PM | Whedon revealed in the comics
that Andrew was joking that
night. by Smashing | Apr 11th, 2008 03:23:25 PM | Well, POMPEII was awesome by spud mcspud | Apr 12th, 2008 03:15:01 PM | Yo by proper | Apr 12th, 2008 04:25:37 PM | Yo by proper | Apr 12th, 2008 04:26:34 PM | Proper by spud mcspud | Apr 12th, 2008 06:47:34 PM | :-) by proper | Apr 12th, 2008 09:58:08 PM |
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