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AICN Exclusive Version Of The MONGOL Trailer! What Did The MPAA Cut?!

Published at:  Apr 04, 2008 7:12:35 AM CDT

Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.

We’re testing out a new video platform for embedded material here at the site, and I’m pleased to be able to test it with an interesting comparison game for you guys.

Recently, I wrote about the bizarre changes made to the domestic trailer for INDIANA JONES & THE KINGDOM OF THE CRYSTAL SKULL. There are often strange changes made to “sanitize” a trailer, and today, we’ve got a great example for you.

Harry screened MONGOL at this year’s BNAT, and it’s a groovy retelling of the Genghis Khan story, although told as legend more than fact. We’ve got the original cut of the trailer for you, which you’ll only find here at AICN, and then we’ve got the MPAA approved version.

See if you can spot the difference.

Even better, see if you can imagine forcing a company to cut that shot in order to get their trailer certified.

Fascinating stuff...



Trailer 1 / Exclusive Original Edit

Trailer 2 / MPAA Approved Edit





Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles


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    Readers Talkback

  • Apr 04, 2008 7:18:22 AM CDT

    Aspect Ratio

    by neoaddix

    Why is the aspect all fubared on those clips? Get it right, fer fracks sake.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 7:19:24 AM CDT

    Opening Shot

    by neoaddix

    And that opening shot with the wolf and the canyon is straight out of '300'.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 7:31:14 AM CDT

    Genghis Khan want a twinkie?

    by grammaton cleric binks

    He totally savaged Mongolia, then totally savaged the mall.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 7:31:32 AM CDT

    4:3 ASPECT RATIO?

    by rsdigi

    You better keep testing and go with 16:9 like everyone else.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 7:31:58 AM CDT

    0.46sec

    by talisp

    the original cut has more of a visual impact than the MPAA cut...like the transition from child to man....

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  • Apr 04, 2008 7:33:15 AM CDT

    al 'kabong' leong!

    by ironic_name

    yo binks, olegback 2 http://tinyurl.com/27ykt4

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  • Apr 04, 2008 7:34:07 AM CDT

    they wouldnt show a kid in shackles?

    by frodofraggins

    I noticed that difference and they seemed to shorten the scene where he is in front of a line of girls as a kid.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 7:42:02 AM CDT

    Ironic, I just missed you in the Carter

    by grammaton cleric binks

    talkback. What happened yesterday. How could we forget Al in this role when we were talking about him the other day?

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  • Apr 04, 2008 7:42:33 AM CDT

    The cut doesn't make sense..

    by old toby

    They kept the violence in, but cut the scene with young G and the girl in the stocks - why?

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  • Apr 04, 2008 7:58:03 AM CDT

    I knew what it was going to be before seeing the 2nd one

    by mister man

    Imagine what they'd rate "Oliver!" in 2008??!! However, I kind of understand this, to some extent.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 8:04:01 AM CDT

    Of the new films at BNAT 9...

    by bob loblaw law blog

    this was one of my favorites that we saw.
    Somehow, The Poughkeepsie Tapes didn't make that list.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 8:16:55 AM CDT

    Yeah, this doesn't make sense.

    by the great one

    Why not show his brief change from boy to man while in shackles? It gets the point across of the length of time he endured brutality in this story. You're allowed to show people being slaughtered but not that shot? *sigh*

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  • Apr 04, 2008 8:23:41 AM CDT

    Asian King Conan

    by underoos hero

    THis may be good. Looks interesting.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 8:24:31 AM CDT

    no video

    by salinacj

    ummmm, is it only me, or do other people not see any video at either link???

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  • Apr 04, 2008 8:30:40 AM CDT

    With an all Asian cast too!

    by grampageezer

    Looks good - can't wait to see it. Although it probably will go straight to DVD as these types of flicks aren't too popular with today's movie going public who doesn't really care about anything historical unless it features elements of magic and/or fantasy as in Conan or 10,000 BC. After all, how well did "Arthur" or "Legion" do at the box office? You can also tell that this wasn't produced by a Hollywood sttudio, but is an import because they used an all Asian cast instead of blonde, blue eyed, white boys like the last movie that came out about Genghis Khan's grandson about a year ago called "Nomad". The hero in the movie looked like some boy-band reject, or at least like Heath Ledger in the TV series 'Roar".

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  • Apr 04, 2008 8:43:51 AM CDT

    Seeing this on Sunday

    by shepard wong

    Didn't realize it was at BNAT this year.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 8:54:31 AM CDT

    I liked them both

    by lonestaricon

    I liked both trailers because the difference between the two wasn't drastic. The film looks promising.

    While I appreciate the concern for pointing out the differences and the talkback opinions, I think that the criticism of films discussed is often not constructive or insightful. The art and commerce of film making is complex beyond belief, which is why truly remarkable films are so rare.

    Keep up the passionate discussion and enjoy the movies!

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  • Apr 04, 2008 8:56:39 AM CDT

    Ridiculous

    by 433

    "Oh, we can't see a child in shackles!" Geez, I'd like them to try and get ROOTS into theaters these days with the namby-pamby MPAA.

    But yeah, I agree, this was my favorite film of BNAT 9. And it's the first part of a TRILOGY?!? Sweet.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 9:21:33 AM CDT

    Likeable?

    by toxicbuddha

    Not sure he needs to be likeable, as he certainly has fascinating down in spades. Anybody that is compiling a Baddest Motherfuckers in the History of the Planet list and doesn't have Ghengy in the top three is just fucking up.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 10:06:50 AM CDT

    looks great

    by snapple_ladys_lazy_eye

    love epic historical pieces

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  • Apr 04, 2008 10:14:38 AM CDT

    KAAAAAAAHHHHHHNNNN!!! KAAAAAAAAHHHHHN!

    by nerosday

    somebody had to do it.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 10:19:35 AM CDT

    but seriously...

    by nerosday

    Man I love these big historical epics too. No CG, justs hundreds of guys on horseback, awesome. It will be funny to see the who Conan retread of the origins, but it works with Genghis Khan. and yes I know I spelled it wrong above, but I was going for a phonetic spelling to get the scream right.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 10:24:45 AM CDT

    AICN makes the point well with this comparison

    by theycallmemrglass

    The obvious cuts are the scenes with the young Ghengis. What I'd like to know is if there is a strict "rule" book in what is in and whats out. It seems to me that violence and horror is not an issue with MPAA that can pass easily. Its insinuation of child abuse and insinuations of violence that seems to worry them more than showing actual violence! Its a strange priority but I dont have a problem with it because they are small things that go marginally unnoticed. They are only affecting the trailer. The violent scenes are untouched so I aint omplaining. Many people complain about the indy guns removed. I would've complained too, if the secene with the guns made me go "OH WOW, BRILLIANT, theyre pointing guns at INDY!". but I didnt have that reaction so I didnt give a shit whether the guns were there or not. I hate censorship, but in trailers, I'm not fussed and certainly not fussed with what MPAA seems to be cutting out.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 10:33:46 AM CDT

    So will the call him Temujin in this?

    by nerosday

    Temujin is his real name, the moniker Genghis Khan was given to him when he became the leader of the Mongols.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 10:40:03 AM CDT

    really?

    by sith_rising

    man, thanks for that historical heads up. none of us have Wikipedia!

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  • Apr 04, 2008 10:44:10 AM CDT

    Tuvan throat singer Congar ol' Ondar

    by hikaru ichijo

    is getting tons of work these days, which is awesome. Check out "Alash Khem" on Bela Fleck's & The Flecktones "Live at the Quick"

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  • Apr 04, 2008 11:29:27 AM CDT

    The funny thing is we hear no dialogue so

    by grammaton cleric binks

    I'm wondering if this will be in English, or sub-titled like Apocalypto was. That didn't take away from the movie, and for some reason to us rounds eyes it sounds a lot tougher and angrier when some Asian spouts off in his native language than English.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 11:29:40 AM CDT

    neoaddix, Mongol was made BEFORE 300

    by proman1984

    Looks cool.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 11:32:23 AM CDT

    Or at least simultaneously and independantly

    by proman1984

  • Apr 04, 2008 11:36:29 AM CDT

    sith_rising

    by toxicbuddha

    Thanks. It needed doing and I applaud your restraint.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 11:56:15 AM CDT

    wont even try and compare

    by marshmeli

    Can't watch it when it is in 4:3...

    Good thing this is only test of this embedded player.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 12:26:57 PM CDT

    Nope

    by elkatak

    I couldnt find the difference, but on a subliminal level I feel waaay less offended by the shorter Trailer. Thank you, MPAA

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  • Apr 04, 2008 12:45:16 PM CDT

    Temujin / Subtitled = YES

    by two

    They *do* call him Temujin and "Khan" is like "King," more title than name. It is subtitled and spoken -- I assume -- in something that at least to Western ears sounds native. This film is incredible; best thing I saw at SXSW. Epic, huge, sprawling. Incredible historical story (though I don't really know how accurate it is), incredible action/imagery, and surprisingly incredible love story. I expected a brutal, savage film (based on a possible distorted lack of knowledge on Genghis Khan), but the honor and moral character at the heart of the film is quite powerful as well. Rumor had it that this was supposed to be the first of a trilogy, but I doubt more will be made unless it does really well. (It stands alone quite nicely, though his later years as conquering badass are only briefly summarized. The bulk of the film is him from 9 through middle-age and becoming over-all Khan.) It was supposedly terribly over-budget, but an awful lot of that shows up on screen. Beautiful, and good call for BNAT. (Oh, and the MPAA sucks. Idiots.)

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  • Apr 04, 2008 3:33:11 PM CDT

    Ugh, stupid MPAA

    by scarybunny726

    The Indy thing really pissed me off as well...I watched the edited version of this yesterday and actually thought it wasnt entirely clear at first that it was him in the shackles - they should have stuck with the original clearer version. You see worse things on the news each day, this is absurd.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 7:30:01 PM CDT

    aint this supposed to be a trilogy

    by prossor

    the first one is the beginning raids (central asia), part II is southern asia, japan, eastern europe and asia minor. third part wll be the crumbling empire.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 10:36:55 PM CDT

    s'ok. I'm sure it'll be gone soon.

    by the_patriot

    Testing a player or no, I'm sure the original trailer will be taken down soon. With as pissy as the MPAA is about many things, I know they get REAL pissy about trailers being online with a "green band approved" card running on a trailer that has, by AICN'S own statements, NOT been MPAA approved. And fix the frakkin aspect ratio, would ya? For a site that loves film, that's just gorram offensive to the senses to view.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 11:56:40 PM CDT

    this movie needs a white person

    by sarsy

    how about a drunken tom cruise?

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  • Apr 05, 2008 1:55:40 PM CDT

    I was hoping they shortened the title to just "Mongol"

    by thebearovingian

    Damn you, MPAA! Mongol: The Untold Story of Genghis Khan's Rise To Power, Fame, Glory, Infamy, Assistant Manager, Manager, Franchisee, CEO, and His Ultimate Demise to Shame, Exile, Poverty, Famine, Demotion, Graveyard Shift, Line Cook, Janitor, Telemarketer, Recluse, Unmarked Grave, etc.The MPAA took out the scene where the young Genghis does the Truffle Shuffle. Why? Fat bellies are hilarious!

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  • Apr 05, 2008 10:30:23 PM CDT

    It wasn't changed when I saw it in theaters today

    by jerseyjedi08

    Weird.... I specifically remember seeing the kid in chains, then the jump cut to the older Khan.

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