April 4, 2008, 3:49 a.m. CST
Cool! I work for Hydra!
April 4, 2008, 4 a.m. CST
But he can jump too?<p> </p>Sorry about the diabetes, Harry. Now food really IS your life. I used to have a roomie with diabetes, and he spent every second of the day wondering whether he'd eaten too much or not eaten enough. Also, the used needles lying about everywhere had ME squirming.
April 4, 2008, 4 a.m. CST
by Napoleon Park
I was diagnosed five or six years ago. Ramming that needle into my side twice a day, well you do what you have to do to stay alive and keep your feet and eyesight. But the whole glucometer thing and the finger jabbing - that gets really old really fast.If you're a pop drinker, Pepsi Max and Coke Zero both have decent tastes. And any Diet Dr. Pepper. Check out that new limited edition cherry chocolate Diet Dr. Pepper - quite tasty.<p>The latest research say using sugar substitutes and drinking diet sodas still keeps the body craving sweets, and in an ideal world the best thing would be to cut them from your diet altogether and eventually lose the craving. Well, one thing at a time...
April 4, 2008, 4:07 a.m. CST
If Harry's first taste of endorphins in years might partly have something to do with why he liked this movie so much. Then again, I might just be being a negative creep because of that awful trailer I've been forced to see in front of every movie I've seen the last few weeks.
April 4, 2008, 4:08 a.m. CST
by Napoleon Park
If you know someone with a cat (or have your own) get one of those thick plastic jugs the 13 or 21 pound size cat litter comes in. Remove the label, keep it where ever you regularly do your injections, it'll hold about a quarter years worth of used syringes. Just seal it tight and clearly label it with the word "Sharps" when you put it in the trash.
April 4, 2008, 4:08 a.m. CST
by random dude
April 4, 2008, 4:09 a.m. CST
by random dude
As a self reward, you know!!
April 4, 2008, 4:15 a.m. CST
by The Real MiraJeff
Wow! I just got back from a midnight screening of The Ruins wanting to back Capone up but I see Harry beat me to it. This movie kicks ass! Really, I was very impressed with Carter Smith and his young cast. If I wasn't too lazy to review the film, I'd spend at least a paragraph seconding Harry about how DreamWorks has absolutely fucked up the marketing here. I mean, I'm never terribly surprised when the studio makes a piece of shit look like gold, but I am stunned at how badly they dropped the ball here. If I was SKG I would can half the department. This is an easy winner. I honestly think with the proper campaign this could've taken the top spot at the box office this weekend. Everyone was great, especially Jonathan Tucker doing his best Jack Shepard impression. The Ruins is a genuinely creepy, highly effective thriller. I highly recommend this to fans of the genre and anyone looking for a good old-fashioned scarefest. It's a great date movie and will definitely make you rethink visiting any Mayan temples on your next vacation.
April 4, 2008, 4:18 a.m. CST
by The Real MiraJeff
hang in there, man. My heart goes out to you and the missus. Good luck with everything. My old man owns a candy store and there's plenty of sugar-free items. Let me know if there's anything your sweet tooth needs. You know where to find me.
April 4, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST
Be good to yourself. Diabetes can kill you if you let your guard down. Looking forward to Leatherheads. Caught both of the guys on shows tonight. Both funny as hell guys. And finally, there you go conservatives, Harry threw you a bone. Now you can share your frustration with the Clintons with us "latte" drinking lefties.
April 4, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST
by The Real MiraJeff
i have no idea what i'm talking about with regards to diabetes, no clue whether you'd want sugar or sugar-free or sugar substitute. disregard any dumb statements made above. just holler if there's anything i can do.
April 4, 2008, 4:34 a.m. CST
by Captain Mal
Glad to see you're taking control. You can do it!
April 4, 2008, 4:57 a.m. CST
by The Gospel According to Bastardface
Yes, these Ruins flick does have my attention now.
April 4, 2008, 5:07 a.m. CST
cuz we would hate to lose you...
April 4, 2008, 5:31 a.m. CST
I've noticed over the years that every time there is a movie based on a book you're always quick to note that you hadn't read it (comic books don't count).
April 4, 2008, 5:40 a.m. CST
Seriously dude, the gym thing is great. You'll live a lot longer and the girls will love you!
April 4, 2008, 6:14 a.m. CST
Good luck! Having never been fat, I can't relate to your plight, but I wish you luck.
April 4, 2008, 6:18 a.m. CST
Its also the best American horror film of the last 10, 20 years. Name one better. One American horror film. I'm well aware that Japanese (especially Miike) and Korean directors have been kicking the shit out of American horror, or hell, ANY GENRE of films for years.
April 4, 2008, 6:41 a.m. CST
April 4, 2008, 6:50 a.m. CST
But it's good to hear you've had an epiphany and are doing something about it - most peole don't.
April 4, 2008, 6:53 a.m. CST
by the new transported man
Stop pedaling for 20 minutes & get on a treadmill or elliptical for a lot longer, like 40 minutes, & work your ass off. Take time out of the hour spent on weights, you don't need all that, homie. Weights doesn't keep your heart rate up like cardio does, even at a brisk walking pace.
April 4, 2008, 6:53 a.m. CST
as just a "killer plant" movie. I may have spoken too soon. Guess I'll check it out.
April 4, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST
Good luck with everything. I'm pulling for you.
April 4, 2008, 7:51 a.m. CST
Keep up the workouts Harry, you can do it man.
April 4, 2008, 7:59 a.m. CST
can't wait to do treadmill and elliptical - can't really do that yet, got to be able to walk, before I run. that's why I'm working leg, back, abs and what not... to build the foundation to walk, then run, then skip.
April 4, 2008, 8:03 a.m. CST
I knew Harry was lying in the headline about jumping.
April 4, 2008, 8:07 a.m. CST
I always enjoy having worked out, but I rarely enjoy actually working out.
April 4, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST
and wish you well in your new life. Perhaps the animation in the upper left corner could keep us current on your new look?
April 4, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST
if he's in a friggin wheelchair
April 4, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST
A friend of mine has the 'betis and it can be manageable
April 4, 2008, 8:48 a.m. CST
Get a dog. Walk it every day. Stay in shape the easy way.
April 4, 2008, 8:50 a.m. CST
by the new transported man
Didn't know dude's in a wheelchair, guess I'm still plugged into the Matrix. Keep pedaling!
April 4, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST
Cardio schmardio! I'll pray for you and the Spaghetti Monster will make it better! His noodles will drag that evil right out of you, son. I'm not a fundamentalist! I swear! BTW If you get worse, it's his divine will...
April 4, 2008, 9:08 a.m. CST
I agree completely with Harry's assessment of "The Ruins" trailer. I would have no interest whatsoever in the film if it weren't for the raves that the book keeps getting. Sadly enough, by having the trailer make it look like just another crappy traveling teens in peril movie, the film will do better at the box office. Teens go to movies, and teens like crap. Other than "Hostel," none of my favorite horror movies of the past couple of years have done any business ("The Descent," "Behind the Mask"), while those lame "Saw" sequels just keep coming.
April 4, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST
I guess I hadn't dismissed The Ruins simply because I was holding out hope that it was going to be half as good as the book, which I love. Seriously, Harry, if you want a page-turner of a book, pick up The Ruins by Scott Smith. Great stuff.
April 4, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST
by Quin the Eskimo
My Old Man is dead, so fuck you. <p> Good luck Harry. I'm workin' it to. Down from 294 to 269 so far on the year. The joys of seeing my penis knows no bounds!
April 4, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST
...the book was great, the screen play was adapted by the author, A Simple Plan was great, and I even stumbled into some little interview with the director and he seemed to really get and be into the story.......I saw the shitty trailer too, but I had a little faith and assumed (and hoped) it must just be an attempt to sell the flick to the pimply-Friday-night-socializing right-through-the movie crowd...
April 4, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST
by Frank Black
...and it would appear that the movie is going to be as good and weirdly, Ben Stiller produced it.
April 4, 2008, 9:42 a.m. CST
It's so hard to make a big life change like this, but you can do it! Keep it up and just remember why you're doing it! We all face these changes--I too have to start exercising because I have high cholesterol--and we can do it! Kick some butt because we all want you to stay around so we can continue being your friend!
April 4, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST
Yo Harry those things have little to low impact on your knees heck of a lot better than normal running either on a trail or treadmill.
April 4, 2008, 9:57 a.m. CST
It's amazing how much progress you can make when you keep at it. Depressing how little progress you make when you skip a day here, skip a day there (that would be me). Best of luck!
April 4, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST
by Toe Jam
April 4, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST
i was diagnosed in 2005 and it whipped me into shape. i lost 120 pounds in 14 months by eating sensibly and working out 4x per week. i still have a ways to go but i feel 200 x better and my blood sugar is now never over about 120 with no meds. i'll be rooting for you.
April 4, 2008, 10:13 a.m. CST
Instead of excercizing and eating right to prevent diabetes you let yourself go until you get the diseases and when that happens the costs to treat it skyrockets. The most expensive diseases that we treat in America can be prevented, but we don't have a health care system in this country, we have a diseases care system. Hence ever increasing costs. <br><br> There should be health insurance company that only takes healthy people who live a low risk life style as it pertains to chronic preventable diseases. Why should we have to pay to cover the costs of people who refuse to take care of themselves?
April 4, 2008, 10:14 a.m. CST
by Yotz Von Frelnik
How do you end up in these places, man? So jealous.
April 4, 2008, 10:15 a.m. CST
by Yotz Von Frelnik
Though the accidental result's sorta amusing.
April 4, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST
I remember people wondering if we'd see what was making the noise and saying it would look silly.. <P> was it?
April 4, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST
by Wee Willie
Glad to hear you're taking action on the diagnosis. Keep it up. Even if you don't feel like working out on a scheduled day, get you butt in that gym. Even a minor I'm-not-into-this workout is better than no workout. You've inspired me to get back into it.
April 4, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST
by alice 13
20 or 30 years too late marty. scary shit.
April 4, 2008, 10:34 a.m. CST
People telling you to ditch the weights are wrong, Harry. While Cardio is crucial, weight lifting will actually burn fat very quickly as well as increase muscle mass which in turn speeds up the metabolism. Good luck. You will feel better almost immediately.
April 4, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST
american tourists go to south america. see temple. natives won't let them leave. why? because they are a sacrifice to the big plant in the temple. end of story. hope all the inbetween is awesome because that still just sounds so-so.
April 4, 2008, 10:45 a.m. CST
You like Obama? Seriously, I hope I am wrong but I know McCain is going to be our next president. As for this moive, I am glad to know that the trailers where wrong. Because they did make it look like Touriasts 2: Lost Baggage. That or the trailer looks like a commercial for the Book, you know how they sometimes make big fancy commercials for a popular authors new book. Because all the taglines were for the book.
April 4, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST
"Harry was jumping, squirming and squealing throughout ....THE RUNS" and i keep laughing because diarrhea is hilarious
April 4, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST
Harry, good luck with your journey. I hope your health comes to you soon!
April 4, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST
by Kid Z
...sneaky bastards, can't trust 'em! (With the exceptions of that carrot Green Lantern and that race of Zen Asparaguses that the Kree tried to kill off, of course)
April 4, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST
by Kid Z
...my dad has it too and it can lead to lots of other serious health consequences. The plus side is that it's encouraged you to get in shape, which is the best thing for you and the payoff is even better when you're young. Keep up the good work getting healthy, Harry... we're pullin' for ya, big guy!
April 4, 2008, 11:19 a.m. CST
Honestly. I don't know. It was fine. There were a couple of cool "oh shit" moments, like the first encounter with the mayans and a sequence involving a vine filled tunnel and a cell phone, but otherwise... The movie just wasn't that interesting. It wasn't bad, but it was kind of forgettable. A strictly average affair.
April 4, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST
But I gots to be Debbie Downer. Harry, if you've been fat longer than five years (which you have), your skin will have permanently stretched. If you really lose a substantial amount of weight, you're going to end up looking like a human parachute. You'll be less flabby and more flappy. Worthy exchange all the same if you ask me; just make sure Yoko knows what she's in for.
April 4, 2008, 11:20 a.m. CST
And the way in which they're revealed was actually one of the more effective moments in the movie. The concept of the film was pretty nifty, I just felt like they didn't do a ton with it. The voices, though, pretty cool.
April 4, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST
by I am_NOTREAL
Lean muscle mass burns fat. A good weight program in conjunction with cardio is the best shortcut to getting in shape...that, and eating correctly. I didn't really like the book--way overhyped and overrated--and so I don't care about this movie, although I may catch it on HBO one day thanks to the apparently gratuitous T&A early on.
April 4, 2008, 11:32 a.m. CST
by Read and Shut Up
...so I did. Best of luck Big Red.
April 4, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST
Shop of Horrors to say "PLANT". Now it's ruined.
April 4, 2008, 11:42 a.m. CST
by Arch Nemesis
I've found, taking care of him, that if he eats too much sugar free candy, sugar free yogurt etc. his blood sugar numbers still climb pretty high. There are other ingredients in those products beside sugar that raise blood sugar, albeit to a lesser degree but they still work against you if your intake isn't minimal. So think heavy portion control, not just substitution. Glad to hear about the movie, I agree that the trailer made it look like a formulaic wild yuppy vacation gone awry etc., maybe I'll give it a go now.
April 4, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST
Wow, that is good. Best consistent advertiser to pull me away for a second or two almost every time (save James Dean, eech. I mean, Rebel was on this morning before I went to work, and during the confrontation up on Griffith, I was watching the Hopper the whole time, who looks like hes having a much better time than anyone else.)
April 4, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST
You didn't see this coming?
April 4, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
than it looked. In all honesty the trailer made it look like The Descent, but with a pyramid instead of a cave, so who cares.
April 4, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
I can relate. Plus I didn't get run over by a damn pallet. If you needs incentive, just watch Super Size Me again. I love that movie, and the message it brings.
April 4, 2008, 12:07 p.m. CST
If Harry does go blind from the diabetes and ends up having to use voice recognition software to write his AICN articles, at least they'll end up with less typos and grammatical errors...<p> </p>I went too far, didn't I?
April 4, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST
by The Chosen
And sorry to hear about your db's. Hope you get it "fixed" alright.
April 4, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST
sorry to hear about da betes. <br> good to hear you're doing something about it.
April 4, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST
by Fireball XL-5
I'm undergoing something similar and after just a brief lifestyle change I feel like a million bucks. Huge return on investment. Keep it up, bro.
April 4, 2008, 12:33 p.m. CST
I believe you can have one of my Pizza's that I made this weekend. Or is the Cheese offsides? There's 7 types of cheese in them. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULHHE0bO-ZQ
April 4, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST
April 4, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST
yeah, good advice...I've been struggling with a diet too and should rewatch Super Size Me whenever I start to backslide.
April 4, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST
I like how Harry told us he hired a personal trainer to help whip him into shape, yet all of us flabby geeks insist on giving him "expert" work out advice anyway.
April 4, 2008, 1:14 p.m. CST
Sorry to hear about the diabetes. I've always admired your passion and deep knowledge about film and film history even though I sometimes scratch my head with your taste. If your like me, you'll find getting back into shape addictive. Good luck and best wishes.
April 4, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST
I meant to put a smiley at the end of the second sentence. <br> 'sorry bout that...
April 4, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST
said it earlier. But Harry, water aroebics is one of the best ways to get in shape if you aren't in any shape. Like my senior year of high school a bunch of overweight old teachers started doing it, and those that stuck with it had amazing results.
April 4, 2008, 1:37 p.m. CST
those people lose like 100 pounds in 3 months. that jillian chick will sort him out properly.
April 4, 2008, 1:49 p.m. CST
by Hooded Justice
Hospitalised relatives? Surgery? Diabetes?What possible relevance can all this highly personal information have?<p> I'm sure we all sympathise with ANYONE who has medical issues - but then we ALL have medical issues at one time or another; we ALL have family members who suffer in one way or another. But we protect their DIGNITY and our own by not broadcasting private medical details all over the net.<p>Are Harry's relatives - the ones he claims to care about - are they aware that he is sharing such sensitive information with thousands of strangers? I sincerely doubt whether they appreciate it.<p>And what the fuck does any of this have to do with movies? We come here for movie news - not to be subjected to the bizarrely inappropriate confidences of the site writers. Keep your personal lives out of it please!
April 4, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST
of The Ruins, which is a shame since it's been getting pretty good reviews. Not screening a horror film for critics is about the dumbest thing you can do. The young and dumb crowd who go to horror films don't care about what the critics say, and in the event that it's actually a good film, then you are preventing a wider audience.
April 4, 2008, 2:05 p.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
since I saw the movie on the big screen I have had a grand total of two double cheeseburgers from there. Not at the same time. Although I can't escape the allure of the breakfast sandwiches. When they had a McDs downstairs from where I worked I would have one bacon, egg, and cheese biscuit once a week, then hit the gym during lunch, burn more calories than it contained, so in effect it never happened.
April 4, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST
most americans drink wayyyyyy too much. i drink water wherever i go now. it's like nature's, uh...water. it regulates everything. quit drinkin' pop, haryy!
April 4, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST
Good Luck Harry, Make sure you eat some organic popcorn now but anyways, I don't want to sound stupid but I thought Harry was on a wheelchair?
April 4, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST
I know I bust you and Mori in the balls and chops over lots of things, but I'm glad too see you taking some bad news and making using it to initiate a positive outcome. All I can suggest you consider too add to what all your doing too alter your health is too Reduce your liquor intake and or put it down completely!!! <P> Thats what killed my grandfather. He had Type 2 as well, but it's was the drinking that did him in. The insulin shots can be just as damaging but add a little liquor intake every so often and you got a guaranteed death sentence. <P>Dialysis ain't no fun. <P>Only peeing out a few drops of urine each day never feeling like your emptying your bladder. <P> Getting a esophageal pump put in so you can manually remove fluid from around the heart by reebok pumping this thing that lies just under your left chest area. <P>Having both your legs chopped off cause of poor circulation- any and most injuries and bruises not healing or going gangrene. <P>None of that shit is fun man! <P>I wouldn't say it if I didn't care. I watched a wonderful man die in a very cruel manner. I wish more than anything that someone called him on his bullshit ages ago. No one should die like that! <P> I know your good people. And I've always felt bad that your big thing was eating. We all have bad habits. I wish my addiction was food. <P> Anyways on a more positive note. Just give your self to some psychical exercise 20 minutes a day, always try something new so it doesn't get boring, and you'll be ok- soon you'll be all buff and shit, and you wont have any body image shame. <P> No stomach vice, none of that easy way out shit. Be a warrior man. You can do it!!!
April 4, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
Sure it's pure juice, but pure juice is pure sugar. Granted it's 100 percent natural sugar, but it still is. One glass of OJ at the most a day is enough. The rest of time it should be water, or skim milk. Doctors also say one or two glasses of red wine have health benefits.
April 4, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST
by The Goon
that zombie movie set in the 50's with zombies used as home help? i cannot remember it's name. did it ever 'happen'?
April 4, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST
Worked for me. It's not a difficult thing at all once you get used to it, it's not as radical as Atkins, and you should even be hungry if you're eating the right foods.<br><br> French fries are the devil if you're trying to lose weight, but that should be obvious.<Br><BR> I'd also recommend the Crossfit workout program to for losing weight/getting fit. The trainers for the 300 movie were very influenced by that program for the workouts they gave to the actors.<Br><BR> Good luck Harry.
April 4, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST
There was a recent doc on Discovery Channel about one of the world's heaviest men,Manuel Uribe, who lives in Mexico. He's been using the Zone Diet for a few years and has already lost *570* pounds. Look it up on da Wiki.
April 4, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST
April 4, 2008, 3:12 p.m. CST
Name one better horror film than Hostel? How about Cabin Fever? Frankly Im not the biggest fan of either, but at least Cabin Fever was fun and didn't make me want to take a shower after watching it. But if yo uwant a good recent horror film, check out Behind the Mask: The Rise of Leslie Vernon. Also, Best Picture winner Silence of the Lambs came out less than 20 years ago and is technically a horror film.
April 4, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST
Make the film look like a generic "horny/dead" teen movie. Christ, they should have mustered some hard sell, e.g. crazed Mayan--armed with a bloody axe--addressing the camera with, "See this movie or I'll kill you!" (Wait, I think this concept had already been developed for Disney's POCAHONTAS). A William Castle-type spin should have been conceptualized for the publicity (little wonder it will prompt dwindling boxoffice, much like other recent horror films that have grossed only $4-$6 million). A pity Roger Corman wasn't at the wheel.
April 4, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST
THE RUINS is fueled on talent. Anything related to Eli Roth is derivative, "outhouse" odorous and amateur.
April 4, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST
I had my go away...just watch what you eat..
April 4, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST
I worry about my mom...She's 52 years old and is wayyy overweight for her age. She claims she's having "dizzy spells" but refuses to seek medical treatment. I fear she might be a candidate for diabetes, if not worse. It's that damn junk food we have in our house. Plus, she smoked for over 30 years but recently quit.
April 4, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST
You absolutely, POSITIVELY must exercise. I know lots of people that eat fine and are still fat. They're all desk-job charlies who go to work behind a computer, go home, and watch TV. Just walking 2-4 miles a day will keep you from EVER getting fat.
April 4, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST
Now onto the crap that is The Ruins. So, here we are in 2008 and the studios have stooped so low that killer vines are the new Jason, Freddy and Michael Myers. And the vines talk, yes you read that right, they fuckin' TALK!!! The Vines not only talk but they eat people and it's not a big, monstrous Venus Fly Trap but just vines. A Venus Fly Trap would have been the smart way to go but we are talking about Studio "horror" now and smart thinking doesn't factor in for Studio "horror." This group of friends and the token European Guys go to get some culture because all they have been doing in Mexico is the usual American way of ingesting of Foreign cultures, by staying at the hotel pool & beach, getting shit-faced and fucking. So, they go to this "hidden" sanctuary and then the shit hits the fan. You see the locals have been protecting the Ruins because they know the danger of the Vines and the potential danger of the plant pollinating around the area and probably spreading throughout the world. The Mayan locals, for generations, have made the ultimate sacrifice of giving their lives over to protecting the world from this plant. Rather noble if you ask me. Then the stupid, hedonistic, self-centered Americans make the mistake of touching the plants soon after they arrive. The locals have no choice but to contain the intruders and kill anyone who tries to escape. They do just that with one guy, a Greek. The locals force the kids to seek shelter on the top of the Ruins and wait it out for the kids to die. So there's the "plot." The kids try to survive the talking plants. My god this movie is bad, just bad. It's the second worst film of 2008, the #1 spot goes to The Eye remake. Once again, you care nothing about these characters as people, other than just fodder for the Vines. The Vines for no reason eat people and like human flesh, um why? There's some crazy on the fly surgeries, stupid dialogue and just plain dumbness as they try to survive. Which only Jenna Malone does. She gets to drive off into the sunset as the only survivor, bullshit on that. Here's the thing, the locals have centered their way of life around quarantining the plant for the better good. Now, if the book, the writers and director wanted to do something different and make a statement they should have had the kids make their ultimate sacrifice and die there so the plant can't pollinate and spread throughout the land. But no, we get the typical self-centered American thinking of the Holy Trinity of Me, Myself and I. As Jenna Malone and her boyfriend devise a plan to trick the locals and let Jenna run off to a Jeep so she can go home and now spread the talking plant pollen everywhere. It's thinking and writing like this is why "horror" is at an all time low. Seriously, this is just bad filmmaking coming from people that have no skill in horror whatsoever. The biggest, stupidest batshit thing is that the plants can talk. Not only can they hear and mimic people but they can also mimic cell phones. There's a gag involving that, big time. This is as bad as hearing the shark in Jaws 4: The Revenge screaming at the end of that film. The plants flowers can actually hear people and then make the Blonde girl think that her boyfriend is fucking Jenna Malone. Who are two feet away doing nothing but dealing with their situation. But the Blonde rushes out sees both of them fully clothed sitting there and still says that she heard them fucking and gets all pissed off. BULLSHIT on that! A lot of this movie just offends anyone that knows a little about the writing process. Is it all bad, other than these next two things, yes it is. First, the director has learned a lesson and ditches that fast cutting style of editing and actually uses Medium and Wide shots and holds on the action to let the "story" proceed. Second thing is that the four main kids are good actors but they're in this mess of a movie. Put these four actors in a real horror film, written and directed by an actual horror fan or filmmaker and they would do a great job. They do their best with this material. It's just not good enough, man. I went to a free screening because that is the only way I would have gone and I still feel I paid to much. Now, you might think, it's just me and my distaste for Studio "horror" but I was not alone as the audience, for the most part didn't buy this movie either. I even over heard this 12 or 13 year old boy sitting behind me ask his mom, "Why do I care about these kids?" That sums it all up, a 12 year old can see through this shit. That's bad and so sad my friends. Avoid this movie, go out and see something of quality or rent something that is quality. In fact, go and rent The Little Shop of Horrors for a GOOD man-eating plant movie. Cause you ain't gonna find it here my friends.
April 4, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST
by The Heathen
That's easy - May. Hostel was good though, but it wasn't May. Also for consideration, Blair Witch, possibly The Mist even though it's still fresh and although not located in the "Horror" section, I'd say Requiem For A Dream is one of the most horrifyingly scary movies I've ever watched. <br> <br> I'm Shigeru's friend with the 'Betis, btw. I have Type 1 Diabetes, Harry. It's good that this in ways is catalyzing you to get in shape and perhaps not have to deal with the complications. Me? My Pancreas is just wasting space my man! It's good to know that you're building a strong foundation for working out too. Best of luck. <br> <br> Also, correct people who call it DiaBETTIS. I can't stand that shit. It's |ˌdīəˈbētēz; -tis|. Just thought I'd throw that in.
April 4, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST
by Bass Bastardson
I wish I could jump ahead of him to warn everyone not to read his angry spoiler filled rant, but I cant.
April 4, 2008, 4:17 p.m. CST
What are the kids gonna conduct botany tests on it? Please, we don't need every little thing explained. There is a man-eating plant in the jungle. Why? The same reason there are plant-eating men in the city. There just is. Nature made them so. Deal with it.<p> That being said, I didn't like the movie, but the lack of explanation of the plants origin is NOT one of the reasons why.
April 4, 2008, 4:44 p.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
The four components you need Harry is nutrition education, portion control, cardio exercise AND weight training. If you leave out any of the four cornerstones it will not work. The way I lost 60 pounds was this crazy diet. It was called eat less and exercise.
April 4, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST
by Teddy Artery
Getting the weight off isn't easy, but the benefits are great. Controlling "mindless eating" will also work wonders. Get rid of any snacks and food that you find easily accessible, and make sure you stick to strict reductions in your caloric intake. You can eat good food, but reduce the amount you eat.
April 4, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST
My mother has Type 2 diabetes (among other health issues). Make sure to closely monitor your food, insulin dosages, and blood sugar. I wish you all the best, good sir.
April 4, 2008, 5:32 p.m. CST
April 4, 2008, 5:33 p.m. CST
I have right foot, next february. Also, you can still live a long, productive life with cat AIDS.
April 4, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST
by Stevie Grant
you're "Know I know" thing about MTV fucktards getting sacrificed by Mayans... I think you just came up with the plot for a badass movie. I would definitely pay 10 bucks for a movie about MTV Spring Break idiots getting murdered.
April 4, 2008, 6 p.m. CST
by Stevie Grant
I know that sounded very bitter, but, come on, a well handled flick about those 20-something American idiots you see all over MTV, getting their asses handed to them, would be awesome.
April 4, 2008, 6:02 p.m. CST
by Stevie Grant
I'm meant "Now I know," and now I'm trying to figure out why I accidentally threw in a "K" at the beginning.
April 4, 2008, 6:08 p.m. CST
or working out. Think of it as prolonging your life for the sake of those around you. Say "I do this for Yoko". Good luck.
April 4, 2008, 6:30 p.m. CST
by Stevie Grant
I don't know. Those characters seemed be capable of forming complete sentences without resorting to slang. Also, they didn't come across as some random idiot strait-from-Jersey or might-as-well-be-straight-from-Jersey.
April 4, 2008, 6:42 p.m. CST
<p>Stay with the weight-bearing exercise. The change in diet is going to start incinerating the pounds in about three months. So prepare for...</p> <p>1. Your knees are going to be in rough shape once you are ambulatory. Hence the weight training now.</p> <p>2. Check with your provider about skin-reduction surgery. Eventually, probably a year, you're going to need it.</p> <p>I'd like to say better late than never, but understand, if you balk on it this time, you're dead. No bullshit. Just dead. So I hope those around beat your ass if you being to slip, but I have a feeling your wife gives you something more important to live for, especially if you want children. Just as Mori. Be strong.</p>
April 4, 2008, 7:36 p.m. CST
This film grew the roots for what could be a successful horror franchise. The Ruins plays as the best kind of horror because of the multiple layers it is sucking valuable sustenance from. Production value and performances are no longer enough when it comes to horror. You have to be telling a tale and sending a message bigger than the 80 alloted minutes. I was actually scared of vibrating plant matter because this movies was Chloro-filled with meaning. The obvious environmental analogy is surprisingly, but poignantly backed by issue of patriarchy and substance abuse. I have to admit, I didn't hate the trailer. The first time I saw it, a long time ago, I was actually pumped. Horror lately, has kinda missed the mark for me. I am still stuck on May, but Ils, The Mist and Severance did tickle something. The Ruins brought me somewhere I wanted to go geographically, ensured boobalage, and didn't go on too long. I thought I wanted more when I left, but I don't. I am glad more time was spent on them solving the practical components to survival, rather than the supernatural. In that way, it matched Speilberg-esque suspense. I did give a shit about the characters, but because they were all flawed. The final girl theory got a little revamping in this piece of work. Normally, the highly sexualized characters are bait. The morally sound and intellectually motivated characters tend to live on to be in sequels. The Ruins works by making the final girl the least admirable person in the film. In fact, she wouldn't have stood a chance were it not for honorable sacrifice she herself was incapable of. Weed! Is no one else seeing the obvious likeness to weed leaves in this. The hot blonde is the most physically and mentally abused by the plant. It slowly forces her self destruction. The inability or unwillingness to kill victims from within outright makes it that much more pervasive. The vines, like weed, change your normal perception of people and events. Not too mention, this is taking place in Mexico. I could see protecting a weed crop comparable to the natives urgency in The Ruins. Weed, like the vine, is a gateway to the horrors that follow. Ha. Sure it's a stretch, but I am all to familiar with killer weed. I always thought it could play a mean metaphoric antagonist. Don't get me wrong, I was rooting for the plants. Finally, this was such an environmental horror flick. Who has society failed more than convicts, psychos or terrorists?? THE EARTH! We have fucked up the planet something raw. These young spoiled brats, with the exception of Jeff, have the wrong reasons for exploiting a place they shouldn't be. Classic revenge scenario, where the wronged(environment) get sweet payback on the wrong-doer(americatown).
April 4, 2008, 8:48 p.m. CST
All the trips to the set of Hatchet in the world will not keep you healthy.
April 4, 2008, 8:50 p.m. CST
Don't believe the hype on this one. Dumber than dandilions. I kept thinking I was watching some horrible teen series like the OC or The Hills or whatever that shit is called. The characters are so absurdly stupid I couldn't wait for them to die. How many gazillion times have we seen the 'riples moving under the skin' cliche? It just doesn't work anymore. Evertything about The Ruins was just wrong. And the comments about nudity and half-nakedness. A microsecond of fleeting nip and that's it (Girl in Panties alert! Big deal). This movie isn't even half as good as its trailer.
April 4, 2008, 9:17 p.m. CST
Hey man, I'm a little late here, but just wanted to say that I feel for you man. Diabetes can be a scary thing (a few of my family memebers have had it) but if you can keep up with the exercise and the diet it can be very managable. I've been dealing with a life long illness since I was born and I know how tough it can be. Just keep your spirits high and remember you have a wife and friends there to support you. Don't be afraid to ask for help when you need it. Take care
April 4, 2008, 9:21 p.m. CST
I used to be a big guy like you Harry. 300 pounds on a 5'8 body. A rowing machine is the best piece of equipment for really big guys. There's no impact on your knees or hips and you work your back and arm muscles at the same time. The cariovascular benefits are great. Ask your doctor and trainer! Good luck!!
April 4, 2008, 10:07 p.m. CST
I might use one, gotta get in better shape, and if Harry's workin' out, so will I
April 4, 2008, 10:14 p.m. CST
and good luck me! I'm gonna get so many ladies pregnant!
April 4, 2008, 10:17 p.m. CST
April 4, 2008, 10:24 p.m. CST
Hang in there man! You seem to have the right attitude. Keep it up!
April 4, 2008, 10:29 p.m. CST
Since I dont get Spike TV in HD here, I at least checked out the Mines of Moria on TNT for a while. I would LOVE to see the ratings breakdown for this weekend for these two channels....
April 4, 2008, 10:58 p.m. CST
Good luck HK
April 4, 2008, 11:18 p.m. CST
by Stone Cold
I kid you not. Last time I logged in was like 1998. Some of you were still getting your noses wiped by your mommas back then. But this brought me out of hiding. One too many posts by Harry and the rest of you sheep who cling to the liberal lies and do exactly what the media tells you. Harry, I wish the best for you brother. I really do, but I shrug at your blind trust in Obama. That man is not the answer.
April 4, 2008, 11:48 p.m. CST
I will never - and I mean never - live down the fact that I brought my dad to see Cabin Fever based on the raving reviews of Harry and his crew here on AICN. It was one of the most horrible movies I've ever seen, and unfortunately, one of the most horrible movies my dad has ever seen. Every time I've asked him to go see a movie with me since then, he brings it up. <p> So, when I saw that Harry reviewed The Ruins, which is a movie that has picqued my interest, I was screaming in my head: "Please, OH PLEASE, Harry, PLEASE do not compare this in ANY way to Cabin Fever." <p> But you did, and now I don't know what to do. <p> Well, I know what NOT to do - bring my dad to see it. No way am I taking that chance again. Not now, anyway. <p> Thanks a lot, Harry. I suppose this may be a good thing, since my expectations have been lowered down to a level that should avoid disappointment now.
April 5, 2008, 12:01 a.m. CST
we are all rooting for you harry. Stay strong and keep up the excercise. Thanks for the review. Great book and I look forward to the movie.
April 5, 2008, 12:20 a.m. CST
and i'm visiting a couple of Mayan ruins. Bad idea I guess?
April 5, 2008, 12:20 a.m. CST
said before I didnt wanna see....but saw a good review on here, was tricked again. now rottentomatoes reviews are flowing in and its about 30% now....which it deserves.....NO real scares...just a few gross "cutting" scenes.
April 5, 2008, 12:32 a.m. CST
I was tricked by AICN again. 30% on rottentomatoes at the moment which it deserves, but reviews werent up when I went.<BR><BR> SPOILERS!- (But not really) <BR><BR> 1. Kids on vacation.<BR> 2. Follow relative stranger to strange place<BR> 3. Become trapped.<BR> 4. No real scares, just gross out scenes involving cutting, like impromptu surgery and self cutting.<BR> 5. Plan for escape. <BR><BR> If this crap appeals to you, by all means waste your hard earned money. Its not scarey, just several "EWW!" scenes of people getting cut.
April 5, 2008, 12:40 a.m. CST
I'll miss the fat version, but I'd rather have a thin Harry than no Harry.
April 5, 2008, 1 a.m. CST
warm and golden.
April 5, 2008, 1:12 a.m. CST
i don't agree w/u all the time but wish u the best
April 5, 2008, 1:14 a.m. CST
or maybe just gore....I don't get it, but I'm not a horror genre fan to begin with
April 5, 2008, 2:59 a.m. CST
by Boba Fat
OK, OK! I'll watch the fucking Ruins!!!! And I hope things take a turn for the better Harry.
April 5, 2008, 3:32 a.m. CST
I'm afraid to see this movie now
April 5, 2008, 4:21 a.m. CST
That means, you have a strong body, so with skillful workout eventually you can lose your weights as well as the diabetes itself. And then finally you can do the thing with your wife, you being on the top. :)
April 5, 2008, 8:35 a.m. CST
Thanks for the review, Harry. I heard this film was the antithesis of teasy PG-13 J-horror, so I'm glad to read it was gory and terrifying, unlike the silly teenage spoogefests we've seen in recent years.<p> Plus, Jena Malone anyone? I love her too.<p> Lastly, Harry, sorry to hear you got type II diabetes. But I tell you, I've had type I diabetes for fifteen years and the disease's benefits far outweigh its drawbacks. Your dental bills are reduced to nothing, your fitness increases, your diet skyrockets into healthyland... for the price of only needles, humalog, and a low blood sugar once in a while. It ain't so bad. Good luck working out!
April 5, 2008, 8:47 a.m. CST
Now that's a vision to make one smile. We love ya, Harry!
April 5, 2008, 10:01 a.m. CST
I expected it by now.
April 5, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST
I know it got shit on but it was really good. I don't count torture porn as horror, it's just something a writter/director does for cheap scares and to try and gross people out. I think any teenager with a warped sense of humor and too much time on there hands could write a Saw or Hostel type film. Thats just my A-hole opinion though.
April 5, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST
I was diagnosed as Type 2 myself 2 years ago and the first thing I did was ditch those damn sodas! I have never looked back and have my diabetes under control, no meds at this time, just diet and exercise. You can do it, Harry!
April 5, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST
It's in practically every packaged food item. Buy stuff without it.
April 5, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST
Hey, like how you said 'Personal trainers are a waste of time' then in the next sentence you offer up your expensive friends as an alternative. LOL. Good one.<p>Our health insurance industry is faulty not for costs but for deniability of claims. Health is not a fucking meritocracy, everyone has the right to good health, even the poorest among us. Why in the fuck are we still debating this fucking puritanical nonsense 'work = ethic' bullshit that keeps us in the bottom half of the civilized world in regards to health care? Because a frightened populace is a malleable populace. Fuck people who say that the 'poor should just get jobs'...And don't go out of their way to fucking help the poor find jobs. NIMBY is alive and well, you elitist fucks.
April 5, 2008, 1:15 p.m. CST
...BUT i wanted to this time to say keep fighting the fight bro! You got this! Just take it one pound one day at a time. You plateau? Keep pushing. You have a setback? Keep pushing. You wanna climb the mountain? Dont stare at the peak, keep your eyes one step ahead, and before you know it you'll be there my friend. Know what i think about when im grinding it out? Working through that pain and taking that first step or pushing out that last rep? I think of Shaolin Master Killer! lol. Not kidding. Kung Fu is training the mind! 36 chambers of life bro! And one last thing since everybody has advice. NO white sugar, NO white flour, NO white starches. Period. Cheers! Jeff
April 5, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST
So, when are you running your first marathon?
April 5, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST
So, when are you running your first marathon?
April 5, 2008, 4:51 p.m. CST
by Thunderbolt Ross
... Had to do it.
April 5, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST
I would vote for Obama and his government healthcare too. I hear Obamas campaign song is gonna be "Free Ride" by Edgar Winter. It is only a rumor though. Hey maybe AICN can have a roundtable discussion with Cartman, Rev Wright and David Duke about a timeline on "Rounding up the Jews" the documentary yet to be filmed live via satellite? Cartman: Hey Clyde if you could go back in time and kill Hitler you would right? I mean I wouldn't because I think he was totally awesome, but you would, right?
April 5, 2008, 9:41 p.m. CST
Harry,I won't wish you good luck,just do what you have to do Sir,haters are the motivator.We have at least 50 years more cussing and celebrating to do,theres enough jokes to catch,and besides if you are training then you can justify watching films all day and night it's a win/win :> so come on,catch the chicken man (posted it once,posted it again) http://tinyurl.com/3cdocv ...............
April 5, 2008, 10:52 p.m. CST
April 5, 2008, 11:32 p.m. CST
by Arnold Shitzembigger
Planet of the Apes was my favorite as a kid. The only thing more disturbing than this news is Harry pimping Murder-Set-Pieces on his primary banner. I bit and followed it...What an absolute pile of shit with no redeemable value. Thanks Harry!
April 6, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST
by Big Dumb Ape
You know, originally I was thinking of reading the book since word of mouth had given it a positive buzz, but then I noticed that on Amazom.com, in the review section, that quite a large number of people were bitching and saying "The reviews are misleading and bullshit! This book is bullshit! What kind of dope thinks this was actually good?" However, through all the reviews, I was able to get a general sense of what the book was about and I just thought the idea of killer, thinking vines was a bit silly. So, I just shrugged and said, "Ah, I'll just wait for the movie and see how that goes first." Of course, given that I now found the movie silly (or downright laughably stupid in parts), now I think I'll definitely pass on the book and save a few hours of my life. Given that the screenplay was adapted by the author himself, I think it's safe to assume that he put into the script whatever elements he wanted to retain from his own book.<p>However, the advantage of a book over a movie is that you can spend more time explaining things. So, to that end, can someone who read the book answer the biggest plot hole in the movie?<p>For crying out loud, if the villagers didn't want the vines to spread...if they were SO concerned about quarantining them in the ruins...I mean so much so that they were even willing to kill anyone who stepped on to the grounds...then WHY the fuck didn't the villagers just burn down the Ruins at some point? Just set fire to it all and torch the vegetation and destroy everything once and for all?<P>Seriously, the movie doesn't establish that the natives are PRAYING to the Ruins (as Mayan descendants or something), nor does it show that they revere the vines as god-like entities or nonsense like that. They clearly KNOW the vines are dangerous, which is why they've even cleared a wide dirt perimeter around the pyramid -- laying salt down and all that so the vines can't spread. Which ALSO means that they clearly know that the vines CAN be killed, which should likewise make them less fearful of them. They may be mutant plants, but they're still fucking plants all the same.<p>Not to mention, the village leader -- chunky pistol guy who shoots the first kid -- IS using a gun. And he and the other villagers (as they all show up) are clearly shown dressed in modern world clothes, which means they clearly have had ongoing contact with the nearby town that is only 10 miles away. I mean, it's not like they're portrayed as half-naked APOCALYPTO natives running around in war paint with only leotards on. So clearly they have contact with the outside world, with that town, which we ALSO know has access to modern things like FUCKING CARS AND GAS since we SEE that in the film.<p>So why the fuck wouldn't the jungle villagers just band together with the town and clear out a bit more space...widen the dirt path, chop down more trees, whatever...and then just use gasoline or burnings logs or shoot flaming arrows with balloons attached to them (that contain gasoline or lighter fluid or whatever) into the Ruins to destroy the vines once and for all?<p>I mean the logic lapses like that -- where you sit back either during the movie or immediately afterwards and find yourself saying, "Hey, wait a minute! Why didn't they just..." is what killed this movie for me. Frankly, I just thought the plot...and the way the characters acted...from start to finish was just dumb. I mean, going back to the whole notion of burning or killing the vines, for that matter, when the teens were atop the Ruins -- and this is about midway through the movie where we SEE the teens realize that the vines ARE alive because they WATCH the vines swiping the German Guy's cut-off legs -- why the hell did they never make ANY attempt to even cut some of the brush back? For crying out loud, in a scene only a few minutes later, you see that all four of them are sleeping in the tent spooned up together, but no one stays on watch? Even stupider, in an exterior shot that we see during that scene (the camera pointed on the tent), you can clearly see that the vines are right up against the tent itself. What, no one thought to push the vines back then either? "Hey, I got an idea. Let's ALL go to sleep with the killer vines pushing up against our tent and NOT worry about it." Why not toss some of the booze onto the vines and torch them? And even if you didn't want to TOUCH the vines, why not take the metal frame that they used to lift German guy out of the pit to create a make-shift RAKE to just reach out at the vines and rip at them apart or out of the dirt and then toss them over the side? What, none of these kids has ever done yard work in their lives?<p>But going back to my core point...and maybe this is something that was explained in the book, but didn't make it to the film...but why the fuck didn't the villagers and nearby town just burn the ruins down? It's was shown to be just ONE pyramid...not a sprawling archeological site spreading out miles on end...so just burn the fucker down and be done with it.
April 6, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST
Much of the movie was a pretty accurate representation of the book (with a little compression--in the book the Greek guy isn't killed at first, but is the one who falls down the well and breaks his legs, which the movie obviously changed so it wouldn't have to focus on as many characters), but I am curious as to why they (or he--Smith did the script himself) made the changes he did. <P> One of the changes is pretty obvious--in the book, it's one of the guys who spends the whole time thinking the vine is in him, and tries to cut it out. Obviously someone involved in the adaptation for the screen decided it would be a good idea to switch this to one of the girls who would be more pleasant to look at pulling her shirt up and her pants down more. No big mystery there, but it's kinda funny. <P> There are also lots of little bits cut out from the time they are trapped up there on the pyramid with the vines. Clearly they did this for time, but the result to me is that it doesn't FEEL like they're up there for a long time. One of the things that made the book so spooky is that they didn't spend most of their time up there terrified, they spent it sitting there, running out of water, waiting to die, going over their limited options again and again. It's much darker and much bleaker, while the movie is quicker and more focused on the action. Maybe they didn't want to bore people? I'll bet we'll see some of these as deleted scenes on the DVD. <P> But the biggest and most obvious change--and again, SPOILERS <P> is that in the book, everybody dies, nobody survives. At the end of the movie, Jeff and Amy make a plan where he distracts the natives, who think that she is dead, and she makes a run for it. He dies, but she makes it out alive, runs to the Jeep, and drives away (presumably spreading the bits of the vine on her clothes to the rest of civilization). But, again, in the book, they all die up there on the hill, and nobody makes it out alive. Since this is the ending, it doesn't affect the way the plot unfolds for most of the movie, but the two endings leave you with a very different feeling--the book ending on a darker and more hopeless tone than the movie (and making the very final scene in both, when the Greeks show up and presumably get trapped with the vines all over again, even crueler and bleaker in the book, since we've seen that it's truly impossible to escape, and so there is no hope for them either). I wonder why they chose to change it? Maybe they have an idea for a sequel? Or maybe they filmed the original ending, but it didn't test well with audiences? I wouldn't be surprised if we see the book's ending on the DVD too, but I felt like they kind of wimped out by letting Amy survive in the movie. <P> So I thought it was as inconsequential as any horror movie--I'm in no hurry to ever see it again--but it was by no means horrible, and probably better than the average throwaway dead teen movie. The book too, while no great literature, was effective, and stayed with me for a while after I finished it. But I get the feeling that a lot of punch would be gone from the book if you've already seen the movie, since it really does follow it pretty closely, and a lot of what makes it work is the surprises, and your gradual realization that their situation really is hopeless.
April 6, 2008, 10:28 p.m. CST
If the story had been told from the Mayans' point of view I'm sure we could have had answers to the question of why they didn't try to destroy the vines, but, since our focus is on the Americans, the Mayans are more effective, I think, as another silent barrier that cannot be reasoned or bargained with. But you can take your pick as to the reason: maybe they tried to destroy it before, but lost too many men trying to do so, and just gave up. Maybe they are afraid to even go near it or touch it for fear of getting contaminated. But I think the most likely answer is that, as some of the characters mentioned, the plant is extremely ancient, and their particular village has customs connected to how to treat the plant that are so old, nobody remembers where they came from anymore, they just carry them out without questioning them. <P> As for why the main characters don't make more of an effort to fight the plants, as Node mentioned, the book does go into that more, but it's a lot easier to look at the situation in hindsight and see how it could be managed in an organized way than for them to stumble in, get injured one by one just figuring out the deal with the plants in the first place, and then try to come up with a plan. The book does more with the plant's efforts to divide them too--by playing back their voices and noises to make them suspicious of each other (which the movie does show a bit of), which keeps them from getting organized. I'm not sure if this is a good change or not. Having the plant be intelligent on a human level could come off as sort of goofy; I kind of liked how, in the movie, its actions could be explained as sort of an unconscious reflex, like a Venus' Fly Trap.<P> I did wonder when I was reading the book if they were going to try dousing it with alcohol and lighting it on fire (which seemed like an obvious setup, given that it was established that they had the matches and the bottles of tequila to work with), but on seeing the movie, I guess it is clear that it would have been impossible to completely burn away all the plants on and in the pyramid this way--there were just too many of them, spread out over too great a space. <P> But I do agree that the movie would have been better if it had spent more time going through the details of their situation, and exhausting all the possibilities for escape or defense. I liked that about the book, that it presented their scenario as sort of a "man trapped in a locked room" logic puzzle, with the catch being that there is, in the end, no possibility for escape. By focusing more on the gory, thrilling, or titillating parts, I think the movie did suffer a little in comparison.
April 7, 2008, 12:42 a.m. CST
by Big Dumb Ape
I appreciate you both answering my question. You brought up some good points about things that the book DID get more into (the vines actually being acidic to the touch, they "thought" more powerfully and thus anticipated actions that might be taken against them much better). So maybe I'll give the book a read after all, just to compare it against the movie. It sounds like the author left out some aspects due to it BEING a movie versus a book and given the simple amount of running time that he had to work with, so maybe it will be interesting to give it a read and see just how much never made it to the screen.<p>But thanks again!
April 7, 2008, 1 a.m. CST
Hey man, I'm sorry to hear about the Diabetes2 but man if it's gotten you out of the wheelchair and you are actually changing your diet and getting excercise, that is completely and totally awesome! <p>Some folks call you a media whore, etc but if that were true, we'd know about yer health outside of this site. I remember prayin' after hearing about you bein' wheelchair bound that ya'd get out of the wheelchair and eventually get into a healthier lifestyle. I believe folks call this a blessing in disguise...<br>Anyway man, I really happy to hear you are out of the chair and working on making your time with your new bride last as long as possible. Take is slow but steady and I'll be prayin' fitness becomes a new source of joy for you. :o)
April 7, 2008, 5 a.m. CST
The filmmakers get halfway there, but the producers and/or director decided to make a kind of sizzle reel of the book instead of an actual adaptation. Plot's essentially the same, but the mounting dread and complexity of character is ditched in favor of a more "roller-coaster," "non-stop pop shot" kind of picture (think "30 Days of Night," but made by more competent people). And the sad thing is that this was probably just a cash grab from the very beginning. I doubt the producers ever intended to make anything substantial from the material. Their only mandate: this film must run x amount of times per day. That being said, the film does get enough right -- the production values are strong, and the director is more than capable with the camera and his actors. It stands head and shoulders above recent PG-13 and "torture" horror films. The script just needed breathing room. Just ten additional minutes could have done wonders. In the end, it's a disappointment in the vein of the recent "I Am Legend." Good intentions, but too many concessions, and not enough follow through.
April 7, 2008, 9:07 a.m. CST
Harry, I hope you're not surprised to have ended up with type 2 diabetes. I have been reading your site since 1996 and am surprised it took you until now to be diagnosed. Life is a lot simpler and more enjoyable when you're not a big fat useless fuck. Give it a try.
April 7, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST
Nobody burned the vine? Some city boys who visited the town I'm from thought it'd be a good idea to have a bonfire. They gathered logs and sticks and grass and weeds. Lit it up and stood around the fire drinking the night away. They woke up the next morning with there eyes and nostrils swollen nearly shut, red rashes COVERING their bodies and even inside there mouths. They burned poison oak - thats a no no.
April 7, 2008, 11:41 a.m. CST
Sorry for the plug, but I started in November and have lost 40 pounds. A weight plan that ISN'T bullshit! I'm as amazed as anyone...
April 7, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST
by JERRY HORROR
At best. I mean AT FUCKING BEST, "The Ruins" is an overtly long episode of the rehashed "Twilight Zone" run in the 1980's. It works for what it is, the pacing needed to be tightened up abit, especially the first act. We get abit of fleeting nudity and some decent gore. This is not a bad film. It has the best use of CGI I have seen in a long time, the practical effect of things moving under a persons skin. It's a 2 star out of four. I don't recommend you run to see it, catch it at home. The largest audience horror films serves are black and latino audiences. I can hardly blame them.I always take joy in seeing some well to do crackers get dismembered.
April 7, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST
by evil dead 3d
to just give the head geek back some love i never talkback but i will for this. that one guyz advice about diet coke, diet coke saved my life, you'll only hate it for a couple of days, now if i have real soda it seems so sugary. that's a great way to start, get some diet coke, diet dr pepper etc. that's zero calories and zero sugar. i have a friend with the same kind of diabetes and she leads a great normal life, it just takes a little self knowledge and work. we all love you so much harry you have no idea. thanks for sharing ,my prayers are with you during your loss with your grandmother.
April 7, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST
I went to see this largely based on Harry's review, hoping to see something slightly better than the average modern horror film. Well...<br><br>...this certainly isn't it. Do not believe Harry's review, this film is complete and utter amateur garbage. A complete waste of your time and money.
April 7, 2008, 12:55 p.m. CST
Why didn't the Natives just kill all the teenagers outright? If they would shoot one of their own just because some detached vines grazed him why in hell wouldn't they just murder the teenagers who've had massive, constant exposure?<br><br>Stupid, stupid move.
April 7, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST
I'm looking forward to many more years of your geektastic movie reviews. If you need any motivation to stay on track to getting healthy, just think about all the movies that will be coming out in the next 50 years, and just how cool the movie going experience will be in 2058. Here's to Buttnumbathon 60!!!
April 7, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST
I have to agree. I lost about 47 pounds on WW. Great program that actually works if you follow it. You can eat whatever you want. I switched to Diet Dr. Pepper and it only took about 2-3 days to get used to the taste. Now that my taste has changed, I can't believe I could drink a regular soda. It tastes like syrup.
April 7, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST
What do you think could have been cut from the first act and why do you think it needed tightening? The kids are off to the ruins within the first 10, and they throw a death at you five minutes later. Just to gauge your taste: what in the last couple years would you consider good horror?
April 7, 2008, 7:06 p.m. CST
by Big Dumb Ape
That was my other groan out loud, logic-lapsing moment in the movie. When Amy threw the vine and hit the little kid...and the villagers turned and shot him...it was then clearly established JUST how terrified the villagers were of ANY contact with the vines.<p>So when Jeff carried Amy down to set-up her escape, once he placed her on the ground, I thought the same thing: once he had walked off to the side...and lured the few men away...why didn't he pick up some vines and just start tossing them as well? Even if he hit only one or two of them, think of the added yelling and confusion it would have created, thus buying her more time.<p>Of course, for that matter, that leads to my other gripe -- why the hell would Jeff and Amy stage the escape in broad daylight anyway? Why wouldn't they wait till it was at least early nightfall to give her some additional cover?<p>Plus, they clearly SAY in the movie repeatedly (and also quickly establish this with a camera shot, when they show some bonfires burning) that the villagers have surrounded the pyramid. So if an entire GROUP of villagers have set-up camp around the ruins...now determined to wait it out until all of the teens were dead...then tell me this: How the hell does NO ONE notice that Amy gets up and starts to run instantly? Come on, she shouldn't have gotten more than 2 feet before being nailed. In the movie, they play it out with this ridiculous notion that tubby Pistol Guy and 2 or 3 Archers are focused on Jeff...that Jeff talks and lures them off to the side...but you're telling me that NO ONE -- I mean no other villagers -- were sitting off to the side with their eyes still watching her body? I mean what happened to all the other people guarding all the other sides? And if you're telling me that only Pistol guy and his 2 or 3 archer friends were guarding the temple at that point -- that the other villagers had gone back to the village to take care of things -- we're right back to your idea (and the one that I had as well sitting there) which is why wouldn't you just start tossing vines at them fast and furious so they turn on each other, thus helping your odds for escape?<p>I would agree with others that the overall production standards on the film (it's look, cinematography, general direction, effects work, etc) was fairly nice for a horror film. But all things being equal, I still just found the story lacking. Yes, perhaps because it IS longer the book does address more of these questions -- but it's the MOVIE we're supposed to judge. Sorry, but the movie should be able to stand on it's own internal logic that it presents to the audience...
April 7, 2008, 7:43 p.m. CST
by Banky the Hack
Good luck with the diet and exercise, man. I've been doing it since August and I've lost 25 pounds and feel better than I have in a decade. Stick with it, it's totally worth it. Also, might I suggest Electric Six on the ol' MP3 player. I could run for days listening to those crazy fuckers.
April 7, 2008, 9:28 p.m. CST
the new and UNBELIEVABLY AWESOME Iron Man trailer!!! Whoa,it was like relentless mule kicks to my lower haunches. Beautiful. When he fires a missile at the tank, then casually turns away and pauses a moment as it blows up...CROM!!!!
April 8, 2008, 10:39 a.m. CST
http://www.strandedinstereo.com/film_theruins.shtml Ended up being more positive than I thought. Anyway, give it a read if you get a chance. Thanks!
April 8, 2008, 9:55 p.m. CST
It's great to hear you're taking steps to improve your health. Here's to many more years of film geekery. As for the movie, somehow this one slipped completely under the radar. I'll definitely check it out.
April 9, 2008, 7:53 p.m. CST
by dead youngling
gimme a break--ever heard of FIRE!
April 9, 2008, 8:32 p.m. CST
Honestly? That it take a fucking health scare like diabetes for you to get your fat ass into gear... I mean seriously... NOW you're gonna work?
April 9, 2008, 8:33 p.m. CST
...that NOW people are giving him health advice? What, coz telling a fat guy to loose weight is wrong?
April 10, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST
I know it's vogue for all you guys to bash Harry (and it's his fucking site. Have you no decency?) but I met and chatted with HK at a screening of 'Captain Blood' at the Alamo Drafthouse and he was totally cool. He didn't have to hang around and talk with me but he did and I appreciated it. Good luck, Harry. I'm glad you're getting in the gym, bro.
April 10, 2008, 11:29 p.m. CST
sucked almost as much as that awful review.
April 14, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST
by Richard Richard Mayhew
I mean, seriously, it wasn't a GREAT AMERICAN FILM, but it was okay. It wasn't as good as the book, but that was expected too. Everyone keeps second guessing the characters . . . why? Characters make decisions, for better or worse. I think a big point of the film (and this was certainly the biggest point of the book) is that the characters might've been able to survive if they'd pulled together, but they couldn't do it. They were stupid and full of American hubris (look it up) and just couldn't deal with it. The other thing too: why has everyone on these talkbacks becomes so indecent? Is it that the anonymity of the internet has somehow given you carte blanche to be cruel to Harry?
April 28, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST
by Bob Dobbs
if I never read another review like this one, I’ll be a happy camper. STFU, HeadShill. You suck.
May 13, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST
...in which a guy on a live webcam is attempting to grow a parasitic vine under his arm. http://www.justin.tv/humanlabrat Vines are bad. That's what we learn from this.
May 13, 2008, 8:30 a.m. CST
by just pillow talk
June 22, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST
My friends tell me this film looks shit, and that only I could want to see it. I don't care anymore though, they are obviously stupid!
June 24, 2008, 11:12 p.m. CST
it was pretty good..
June 26, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST
by just pillow talk
June 26, 2008, 10:56 a.m. CST
by just pillow talk
He's in the M-O-M, NoDiggity, Jeff Albertson mindset (37233)...
July 3, 2008, 5:22 a.m. CST
Can't say it's a great flick but it's at least watchable with a few decent scares and some decent gore. One scene bugged me - when the group of 20-somethings are stuck at the camp on the top of the pyramid and things are getting bad, the blond chick decides to give her boyfriend a handjob......wtf? Did the intraveneous vines tell her to do that? And speaking of the vines, it's no wonder the trailers never indicated that was the "monster" (trailer made it seem like X-Files-type Black Oil worms) as no matter how well the effect is done, moving, sentient (and vocalizing - lol!) foliage is just stupid. It's as dumb in a 60's episode of Lost in Space as it is in a 2008 multi-million buck horror flick. And please, the ending with the lone survivor revealed as having them nasty vines in her system almost begs for a 50's Ib Melchoir sci-fi b-flick "THE END.......?" tagline. It really appears the American movie industry is incapable of making a decent horror flick without a bunch of college douchebag leads. How a old, classic actor like Christopher Lee still finds work is one of the mysteries of the 21st Century. T.B.