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Showrunners Gough and Millar Exit The CW’s SMALLVILLE!!

Published at:  Apr 03, 2008 3:06:45 AM CDT

I am – Hercules!!


Al Gough and Miles Millar, who served as “Smallville’s” showrunners since the show’s debut on The WB seven years ago, have left the series, according to an open letter to fan-run Web destination Kryptonsite.

“We look back at 152 episodes,” the duo wrote. “We look back knowing that the show will continue into Season 8 without us. After much heartache and debate we have decided it is time for us to move on.”

The showrunners, who scripted big-screen projects like “Shanghai Noon” and “Showtime” before they began shaping the tales of a pre-Superman Clark Kent, say they “can finally focus on features now.”

Read all of the letter here.








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    Readers Talkback

  • Apr 03, 2008 3:11:28 AM CDT

    testing 1 2 3

    by xega

  • Apr 03, 2008 3:18:51 AM CDT

    who cares

    by shiftyeyeddog2

    smallville became lame years and years ago. its like dawsons creek with super powers

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  • Apr 03, 2008 3:22:56 AM CDT

    BEST. NEWS. EVER!!!

    by cameron1

    Ok perhaps not but thanks goodness those incompetents have finally gone. Just please find a talented replacement, CW.(Yeh right)

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  • Apr 03, 2008 3:26:32 AM CDT

    Good riddance...

    by londongirl

    .... and don't let the door hit you in the ass.

    They completely ruined the show and now they are jumping ship like the rats, they are!

    Hopefully the WB fired them behind-the-scenes and they are just trying to save face.

    Maybe this could be because of the Welling thing. Gough was the main reason the WB weren't able to cast him as Superman. Things might now change. And the petition asking the WB to cast Welling for Superman seems to be getting stronger. If you haven't already, please sign: http://www.petitiononline.com/TW4SinJL/petition.html

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  • Apr 03, 2008 3:38:18 AM CDT

    Nail in the coffin?

    by superjim

    Do you think they will give up on Smallville now and end it? Or will they get a replacement long term show runner?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:07:12 AM CDT

    Clark Kent will be 80 before he gets out of Smallville...

    by sledge hammer

    "He's just a late bloomer, that's all"...

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:14:59 AM CDT

    Do NOT make Welling Superman!!!

    by shiftyeyeddog2

    even if they ever make the pile of shit Justice League movie, welling should NOT be supes. just because he works on the soap opera that is smallville, dont think he can carry an action flick. is there an ANTI- petition i can sign somewhere?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:22:48 AM CDT

    So does this mean that Clark Kent

    by rokurgepta

    will finally learn to fly?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:28:19 AM CDT

    Maybe Clark will fly after all

    by dogma_jedi

    Gough and Miler have said that Clark wouldn't fly in this show. Anytime we've seen him in the air Clark wasn't himself.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:37:53 AM CDT

    These guys haven't written a script for the show since the Seaso

    by edward brock

    I can't see how their departure will change anything. In fact, the show seems to have gotten worse since they got less and less involved on the creative process. In fact, I'd say they've only been attached as producers for so long because of the money and since the ratings have gotten worse and worse, it means there's not much else they can get.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:39:10 AM CDT

    Header got chopped, my bad

    by edward brock

    That's "These guys haven't written a script for the show since the Seasoon 4 Premiere".

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:39:45 AM CDT

    At the risk of sounding like Mrs Carmody

    by boyblue

    "Praise the lord"
    Please let this pile of crap show die already!
    And how many friggen times Welling is not Superman, it wasnt Gough that held him back from being cast as the film version of supes it was his complete lack of talent!!
    He Should be good in Cheaper by the Dozen 3 though.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:39:48 AM CDT

    Geoff Johns please!

    by spifftacular squirrel girl

    I'd like to think he'd knock the final season right out of the park if he was in control of this series.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:47:58 AM CDT

    sad

    by slkboxrman

    very very sad.....hopefully whoever they leave in charge will continue the good work....and not to bust anyones geek bubble....the show is not going to change dramatically...and welling is the perfect superman....if he had been in superman returns it would have improved the movie slightly....the shitty script doomed that movie from day one...the ugly mofo they cast as superman was the nail in that coffin....

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  • Apr 03, 2008 5:12:00 AM CDT

    Time for FLIGHTS please

    by antz

    And an evolving story that is actually headed somewhere rather than a contrived extended stay in Smallville.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 5:37:16 AM CDT

    The Great S Cape

    by napoleon park

    Flights AND Tights.I think Clark Kent was a college graduate and around thirty when he put on the suit and moved to Metropolis (In the current comics continuity, not the Superboy version I grew up with). Get Welling in costume, give him the name and the powers and get on with it. Oh, and I guess they'd have to change the title of the show to Metropolis.Not a regular Smallville viewer - I checked out the first 3 or 4, dropped out, caught a few more, enjoyed the Justice League episode. last year. but now that they don't have the Hawaiian girl playing redheaded Lana Lang any more, maybe if they turned it into a Superman show I might actually start watching.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 5:38:56 AM CDT

    speaking of Superheroes

    by napoleon park

    can someone explain the corner animation? Why is Harry climbing a wall wearing a wedding dress, and why is the brick texture only visible in his shadows? I don't understand it.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 6:01:57 AM CDT

    Napolean Park

    by rokurgepta

    I'm assuming it has something to do with the Superhero spoof movie thats being shown in theaters currently

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  • Apr 03, 2008 6:10:34 AM CDT

    Too late...

    by neomyers

    Smallville's best season was Season two--it didn't feel like "Las Vegas" meets "Superman" every week like most of the seasons since then. Season five wasn't bad... but it had so much more potential. The "No flights, no tights" rule, while clever in the beginning, I think started to hamstring and limit stories. Clark seems more like a retard since he's like 21-22 show time and can't fly. Hell, he just got ice breath too.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 6:11:51 AM CDT

    I hope you guys are joking...

    by obsd

    It's Harry as Marv from the Sin City comic. Anyone knows that!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 6:23:32 AM CDT

    Good thing!

    by freefinger

    I loved the show from the beginning, but the last 2 seasons were at best mediocre. They held back the show to a standstill, and I agree that it's become a "Dawson's Creek" with powers. All it needs is a new version of the song "I don't want to wait" by Dido.Too bad 'cause yes they're not GREAT actors, but they work fine for the series. The potential behind the series was incredible when it first came out, Young Clark getting his powers slowly and getting involved in some incidents. The problem is that they went ahead and made all the powers appear within the span of a season instead of making a new power appear every 5 or 6 shows, this way you'd be able to explore a little bit more the talent he just got instead of jumping from X-ray Vision, to Super-Hearing then Laser Eyes within the span of three weeks... It would've made more sense this way of not making him fly already. All of his powers are not active, yet he can't fly yet... Not making sense, if we look at it, he should've been flying last season, and I mean "Conscious Clark".I would expect the next season to try to get more involved with how Clark becomes Superman, not the costume but the saving the world part. He starts visiting other countries, helps out but remains very discreet so not to get too much attention from the media and stuff, like the Byrne Redux of the Superman title "Man of steel", which probably was the best series ever written for the character. Made him more human, more vulnerable, and explained some of his abilities instead of just saying "he does this and he does that.. Why? Don't know he just does it..".I hope they can finally get moving to less paranoia and more story driven.Anyhow, don't see the negative behind this story, unless they get Bryan Singer involved!! Now that would suck big time! (no pun intended)!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 6:50:06 AM CDT

    Season 8?

    by jotham

    And here I thought they were done after season 7.
    I would like to see Clark move more toward the cape and tights. Season 8 could be more like the Superman: Birthright book of a mid-20s Clark traveling the world and righting wrongs.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 6:53:24 AM CDT

    Good news? Depends on whose behind the wheel.

    by yeti

    I'd like to say Smallville couldn't get any worse than it's become, but then that would just be asking for it wouldn't it?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 6:55:22 AM CDT

    Maybe Clark will finally don the tights and flights

    by mike_d

    about fucking time.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 7:04:34 AM CDT

    What happened to Clark's Journey??

    by theycallmemrglass

    Smallville has gone of the rails completely now. I hate it when creators do not have a proper ending for a series.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 7:12:43 AM CDT

    Smallville was a wasted opportunity.

    by smashing

    When I think about what the show could have been instead of the homoerotic mess that is is I get angry. Why cast an appalingly wooded actor as Kent?, "yeah he is good looking, lets use him, shame he cant emote but then who cares he has great pecs", sigh.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 7:12:43 AM CDT

    Sadly...

    by the gas

    ...I think the No Tights No Flights rule is in Welling's contract. No Superman Year One final season for you. :(

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  • Apr 03, 2008 7:26:07 AM CDT

    Season 8 will have to be the last and....

    by hagakure

    ...the best way to do it would be to pull a 'Battlestar Galactica - 1 year later'. The finale of season 7 will be Clark FINALLY accepting this destiny of his, going to the Fortress to complete whatever is left of the training process, and season 8 he turns up after have been gone for a year (or two, or three) with powers intact and the renewed sense of purpose. Only problem is, unless they pull some kind of freakish "mind-wipe" everyone he has ever known is going to recognize him as Superman.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 7:27:03 AM CDT

    Chloe's little remarks

    by bill brasky

    Ever noticed how Chloe has these stupid little remarks about everything that happens in the show? Lame, lamer, lamest. I am so sick of her tired act. It's like she is doing a bad version of 'Sawyer' from Lost but Smallville came first! WTF???

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  • Apr 03, 2008 7:29:23 AM CDT

    End it.

    by sebilrazen

    End it now, come on CW, now you have an out.
    I used to be a huge fan, but goddamnit I hate this show now, make him fly, make him fashion the suit, make him walk into a now Lex free Daily Planet after Chloe kicks the bucket, get a job, and fucking end it.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 7:33:22 AM CDT

    No freakish mind-wipe necessary...

    by kid z

    ...by then, Clark'll be wearing glasses. Superman WON'T be wearing glasses. See? How could they be the same guy?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 7:38:29 AM CDT

    I find this sad...

    by mrfan

    that this couldn't have happened sooner. This show has been in a convulted mess for about four/five seasons. I was excited about the possiblilites for Smallville. Gave up halfway through the second season. Nothing can fix it.

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  • I think we were so fixated on the time thing in 4.3 that we missed a few things. Here are my thoughts on The Economist.

    The golf course scene is still amazing, even when we know what’s about to happen.



    So why did Naomi have Des and Penny’s pic with here? If we think about it, we know now she’s been on Widmore’s boat and that Ben has told Locke the freighties work for Widmore. We have heard from the captain Widmore planted the wreckage at the bottom of the ocean. So can’t we assume that Des wrecking was Widmore’s doing...not fate, but choice? And if that’s true, then doesn’t Libby have to be in on this somehow?



    I know others have said all this, but logically speaking looking at these facts and assumptions, I think this is proof.



    I love the beacon.



    I don’t know if anyone mentioned this before, but the passports we could make out were from Japan, Brazil and New Zealand. If Ben has passports to these places, it would seem the expanded BTriangle would need more expansion.



    “I lost a dollar, you know”. In one of the next few episodes Locke pulled a dollar out and gave it to Ben.



    Continuity, anyone?



    Sayid said to Locke, “Allow me to do things my way or a war is coming we will both be powerless to stop”. When we last left Danielle she was lying face down with a bullet in her. No one (as far as we know) from the freighter had left to fire the shots. We speculated that it may have been the others that fired the shots, but maybe...just maybe...the freighter had a shadow. Either way, the war has begun.



    Bear with me on this one. Let’s say both Ben and Widmore know/see/understand the future...even if it’s only bits and pieces of it. If you could see the future and knew your enemy could too, wouldn’t you suspect...well, everything. So you send a boat knowing your enemy probably knows about the boat. Might you not tail the boat in another boat...or maybe a submarine?



    Sayid in the quote above did not say getting on the freighter would stop the war from coming/starting, he only suggested to Locke that letting him have Charlotte would get him to the boat. And being on the boat and knowing things going on there COULD possibly stop the war...even after it had begun. And the way it will probably end...the war, that is...is Sayid will think with his heart instead of his gun.



    So my summation of the last 3 paragraphs is the war has now started, but somehow Sayid will be able to end it. The ending will not be the best outcome for the island. And Sayid will indeed sell his soul and go to work for Ben to right the wrong his heart caused.



    One more thing. Elsa’s boss doesn’t like technology. Neither does Jacob. Could Widmore be coming to free Jacob? And would that mean Jacob is bad for the island? That Ben’s been the good guy doing bad things all along?



    Now that’s how to stir the pot!!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:14:20 AM CDT

    As always..."Screw the naysayers". Smallville rocks.

    by atomica

    Everyone's a fucking critic. The show has been one of the best Scifi themed network show on for 8 years and counting. Not only that but is it easily the best Superhero show based off of an existing character.

    It'll be sad to see Miles and Gough move on after so many great years, but season 8 should still wrap things up nicely.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:28:16 AM CDT

    craptastic

    by mr_x

    i keep watching and hoping for somethng to happen it never does. each episode for me lasts 20 minutes cause i forwrd the lex/ lana scenes. one of the richeest men in the world and he still has the worst security in his mansion / building ever. how many wounds do these people have everyweek only to be completely fine the next week? do they all have wolverine type healing powers? honestoly i loveed the show in its earlier seasons. but its so completely ott and ridiculous i keep watching cause it has become a complete train wreck. Goodbyw WB, you should have had the balls to make "global frequency" a fucking TV show. cause that pilot was excellent!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:44:22 AM CDT

    How are Lois and Lex NOT going to recognize him?

    by expert40

    How are they not going to recognize him as Superman?The only thing that is possible is if the "power" of Jor-El that is the Fortress sends out a massive mind-wipe to the people of earth. In the show's mythology, this is definitely possible, as the disembodied memory in computer storage of Jor-El seems to be all-powerful.The biggest screw-up this show did was making Metropolis in Kansas and not on the eastern seaboard (I believe it's in Connecticut, north of New York City and Gotham City which is supposed to be in New Jersey).To me, that's the worst thing they did. Metropolis is NOT a midwestern city. Star City and Central City were the midwestern fake DC cities. That always bothered me, to be honest.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:45:43 AM CDT

    No Riches TB?

    by evilwizardglick

    No Riches TB?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:46:05 AM CDT

    No Dirt TB?

    by evilwizardglick

    No Dirt TB?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:46:30 AM CDT

    No Ashes to Ashes TB?

    by evilwizardglick

    No Ashes to Ashes TB?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:46:55 AM CDT

    No RegenesisTB?

    by evilwizardglick

    No RegenesisTB?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:47:19 AM CDT

    No Shameless TB?

    by evilwizardglick

    No Shameless TB?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:47:50 AM CDT

    No Torchwood TB?

    by evilwizardglick

    No Torchwood TB?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:48:15 AM CDT

    No Fixer TB?

    by evilwizardglick

    No Fixer TB?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:48:53 AM CDT

    No Lana in undies ala s1 pool?

    by evilwizardglick

    No Lana in undies ala s1 pool?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:49:32 AM CDT

    No Lesbians in Smallville?

    by evilwizardglick

    No Lesbians in Smallville?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:50:08 AM CDT

    Smallvilles only Negro moved away

    by evilwizardglick

    Smallvilles only Negro moved away

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:57:31 AM CDT

    the last episode the wrote was

    by charlie murphy

    Season 4's premiere. They've said they've known the show's final scene from day one, hopefully we'll still get to see it. but the show's rarely enjoyable anymore and, like i said, while they may be involved on a supervisory level, they haven't been a part of the writing staff for quite some time.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:08:24 AM CDT

    My hats off to Mr. Gough and Mr. Miller

    by gusborwig

    I'm suprised how no one mentioned that Gough and Millar wrote Spider-Man 2. That was one of the best super-hero flicks in a long time.
    They also wrote the Smallville pilot, the episode with Christopher Reeve, and a season 3 episode where Clark and Lex have some dramatic flashbacks to their childhood. There were also some pretty terrible episodes but those guys cant be blamed for that. Whoever is the showrunner for season 8 sould definetly ammend the No Flight rule. Its freaking Superman and for 7 years the fans have been waiting for him to fly. Season 8 should end any remaining plot points and be about him leaving Smallville to go the Fortress of Solitude to begin his training. Also, one episode should be some sort of flashback to Krypton showing how Jor-El saved his son.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:08:46 AM CDT

    also, I'm pretty sure

    by charlie murphy

    network execs will just promote Brian Peterson and Kelly Souders to showrunners. They practically run it now anyways...

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:11:09 AM CDT

    Weren't they going to do a GL movie?

    by james_o'nasty

    That is all.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:32:09 AM CDT

    Awsome News!

    by luscious.868

    Perhaps Smallville will no longer blow!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:32:19 AM CDT

    Gusitce League?

    by watertownsurfer

    Thats JL.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:32:39 AM CDT

    I loved Shanghai Noon

    by slone13

    No shame in my game.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:56:12 AM CDT

    WatertownSurfer,

    by raw_bean

    'GL' would be Green Lantern, duh! :D

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  • Apr 03, 2008 10:05:55 AM CDT

    Smallvilles only Negro moved away

    by ewokstew

    And then when he came back after 4-5 years the Brotha was only a roadie...a roadie! Good to see they made Pete move forward in life.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 10:16:43 AM CDT

    maybe now

    by palooka_boy

    we'll see some flights

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  • Apr 03, 2008 10:23:58 AM CDT

    You people cry.

    by super joker

  • Apr 03, 2008 10:38:18 AM CDT

    That's bad!

    by marybongiovi

    Just no! I've been waiting to see ***THEIR*** take on Smallville since S1. Sorry, but i won't keep watching Smallville with no Al/Miles.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 11:21:33 AM CDT

    Given Warner Bros. and CW's restrictions and whoring out...

    by shermdawg

    ...of the show, I doubt much will change in terms of quality. That one hour Stride commercial from a few weeks back was retarded.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 11:42:49 AM CDT

    gough and millar...

    by anakinsdiapers

    stand tall amongst the carnage they have wrought, and nod their heads in satisfaction, "thank you all, but the looks of pain and anguish on your faces are thanks enough", and they both fly off into the sunset.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 11:45:40 AM CDT

    The poor man's Ted Elliott & Terry Rossio!

    by epitone

    May they have great fortune in taking on the slightly lesser-budgeted of the big-budget writing-team endeavors.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 11:48:14 AM CDT

    Seriously...

    by anakinsdiapers

    ...how can anyone stand behind this show? The holes in most of the plots you can drive a fortress of solitude thru. That and the errie indiana take on smallville, the x-files lite atmosphere and the gestalt of misunderstandings that would make the cast of threes company do triple takes totally kills this show.....and seriously, kryptonite gum people....kryptonite gum.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 11:57:52 AM CDT

    I like Smallville

    by reel american hero


    And I know this is a different version of Superman canon then anything before, but seriously how is no one, going to recognize Clark as Superman when he finally puts on the suit. And yes, he is the future Superman, but does everything he owns have to be red and blue. That's a bit much. That'd be like if everything Lex wore was green and purple. For the love of all that is decent in the world can we please get him flying finally and move on past Smallville. Hell, change the name of the show to Metropolis if you have to, but by this point it's borderline ridiculous.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 11:57:53 AM CDT

    I like Smallville

    by reel american hero


    And I know this is a different version of Superman canon then anything before, but seriously how is no one, going to recognize Clark as Superman when he finally puts on the suit. And yes, he is the future Superman, but does everything he owns have to be red and blue. That's a bit much. That'd be like if everything Lex wore was green and purple. For the love of all that is decent in the world can we please get him flying finally and move on past Smallville. Hell, change the name of the show to Metropolis if you have to, but by this point it's borderline ridiculous.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 12:16:37 PM CDT

    Smallville is wack and has become a guilty pleasure

    by mayorofsimpleton

    that said, might as well make it go out on some crazy shit. We all keep watching it because face it, it may be stupid but last week I was watching a tv show where Brainiac was talking to Supergirl. You don't get that kind of thing very often. It is its own continuity so I say it ends with Chloe and Clark running off to get married and becoming a superhero duo after Lana dies and Lex gets amnesia and disappears or some shit.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 1:00:13 PM CDT

    Just for posting here Senator McCain....

    by gusborwig

    Im voting Obama. Weird place for a presidental nominee speech.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 1:07:20 PM CDT

    this is fantastic news

    by merlox

    here's hoping whoever takes over can really bring it home in the final season...this show has been a disaster of late(longer even).

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  • It seems like they've wanted to end the show for a while now and if the CW isn't willing to let it go they might as well jump ship right away. I do still like the show, but it's really moved away from its original feel and I'm not sure if I still watch it because I like it or more just out of habit.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 2:42:49 PM CDT

    I will withhold judgement until I hear from Shermdawg...

    by tonagan

    For his word is Smallville law.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 3:03:35 PM CDT

    CLARK, GET OUT OF SMALLVILLE ALREADY!

    by otisspofford

    As a cranky TBer who has read Superman since the 60's and watched Smallville since its debut, I have to weigh in here. I think Welling has improved over 7 seasons, but I think the writers and directors have hamstrung his performances with a passion-less relationship with Lana - why is the only hot sex with Lana a flashback with Lex? It's more than the tired "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex" fear (thanks, Larry Niven), because Supes should learn to control his powers - even in anger he pulls his punches, lest he reduce some malefactor's face to Beefaroni... And why is SUPERMAN, the first hero and inspiration to all others (except Batman) being coached by second-stringers like Oliver Queen, who initially was a bad Bruce Wayne as Robin Hood knockoff? Why is everyone giving Clark ideas for his career as Superman (cape, glasses, reporting, etc etc) - will there be NOTHING he creates on his own? He's supposed to be one of the smartest heroes in the DC Universe! And Millar and Gough really dropped the ball with Jor-el - many of us felt that the casting of Terence Stamp was a hint that Jor-el was actually Zod leading Clark astray, pitting him against family and friends... Why else have Jor-el act like a nice guy (the early 50's episode where Welling played Jor-el and met the Kents) but have him be a complete tool the rest of the time? That ain't Jor-el, my friends! And this hatred between Jor-el and Zor-el is just manufactured drama - even if it was in the current continuity of Supergirl comics... The writers should back off the hopeless, hapless BORING whining and bitching of the Dawson Creek relationships and bring in a "big bad" like they did each season in Buffy... Someone who would give a fledgling Superman a run for his money and show why he is the greatest hero of all - get Clark out of the barn and into the skies!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 3:47:23 PM CDT

    Metropolis IS in Midwest!

    by truedungeon

    Been there myself. Went to the Superman Celebration in Metropolis, Illinois and had fun. Meh!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 3:50:29 PM CDT

    The Stride Gum episode...

    by osmosis jones

    I know that Smallville has pimped itself out before to product placements ("Acuvue to the rescue!"), but that was seriously the WORST, most shameless product plugging I have seen since Short Circuit. I can't even remember the plot, I just had STRIDEGUMSTRIDEGUMSTRIDEGUM running through my head for an hour. Christ...

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:05:56 PM CDT

    Get him flying then end this..

    by ceejaynightwing

    Clark seems to be the only person in a Superhero show who can't fly! This show got off the rails ages ago, they should have had him flying since season 4. Having dragged his feet through the last three seasons alongside some corny renditions of other DC heroes, the whole production has become overly incestuous and badly contrived. What this show needs right now is a final season without additional corny Superheroes, it needs a flying Clark, it needs a foundation of the Clark/Lois relationship and an end to the Lana Lang infatuation ASAP! It also needs for him to spend less time in Smallville and more time in other cities until he leaves for good at the end and leaves all that Lana bollocks behind him to embrace his true calling and the Lois Lane thing. END THIS!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:06:10 PM CDT

    Felt dirty after Stride gum episode

    by jor-el23

    I felt like I'd just rented a cheap Laotian hooker and then tried to use a half off coupon on her.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:09:19 PM CDT

    This show is such a disgrace.

    by raymar

    Can't wait for it to join Stargate in the halls of canceled embarrassing sci-fi shows.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:12:05 PM CDT

    If you boiled down the show...

    by bizarrojerry

    And kept only all the good or better episodes, you'd have like 3 or 4 seasons worth of show. This series' problem (one of many) is that since it's an ongoing show and since the CW wants it to keep going, they need to have lots of filler and drag their feet to a conclusion. When they get back to the main plotline/mythology in episodes, they do well. When they go off on tangents and write filler episodes, it can get really bad. The problem is, the filler is like 80-90% of EVERY season. It's disappointing to me that there will be a season 8 cuz it will only get worse.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:14:04 PM CDT

    Oh, and...

    by bizarrojerry

    changing the "canon" or the mythology or whatever doesn't bother me. It's the never reaching an end that does. The Green Arrow character keeps telling Clark he's gotta get off his ass and stop hiding in his one little town. And he's write. As someone said above, END THIS!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 4:36:50 PM CDT

    SMALLVILLE talkback and no Shermdawg?

    by wickedmonster

    Hell must have been taken over by Mr. Freeze...

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  • Apr 03, 2008 5:20:30 PM CDT

    Smell the cheapness of the CW

    by claytron5000

    Entire episodes based on Stride. High profile cast leaving the show. Show runners leaving to be replaced by four of their underlings.

    I smell cash flow problems at the CW. If you add all of the departures up it probably cuts the show's cost by at least a third, if not half.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 5:21:10 PM CDT

    *cough* Apr 3rd, 2008 11:21:33 AM *cough*

    by shermdawg

  • Apr 03, 2008 5:42:16 PM CDT

    WHAT WILL THEY DO WITHOUT THE RESET BUTTON????

    by jimbojones123

    This is a show that basically run out of ideas after season 2. They went totally out of character on so many levels ( how many people has Clark killed now? ) that it is a mockery of the source material at this point. I watched a season 2 episode this weekend and read the first comic TPB this week. Then I lowered my head, rested it in my hands, and said what a sad turn of events. Fresh Breat -- AWESOME!!!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 5:50:16 PM CDT

    That's still on?!!!

    by the_fredo

    Never was a fan (Just don't care too much about Clark's puberty issues or pseudo-Superboy stories). But they brought us the wholesome cuteness of Kriskin Kreuk. And for that I thank them.


    Cancel it all the same. Clark's beginning to look like a mama's boy now.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 5:54:56 PM CDT

    Slowly Twisting...

    by jimbojones123

    ...in the wind.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 6:07:56 PM CDT

    Whoops. Why didn't I see that?

    by tonagan

    I was probably expecting a lengthy Supreme Court type ruling.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 6:27:16 PM CDT

    Next time on "Strideville"

    by yeti

    Clarks strides the stride, mean while stride and stride together and Stride the Stride away for the rest of the Stride. Stride does the Stride Stride in Stride Stride Stride Stride Stride. Stride!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 6:40:59 PM CDT

    Gorilla Grodd supports John McCain...

    by mindtrip

    It's true. The commercial McCain has running right now features a voice-over by Grodd. You don't get to see him but you can hear him...

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  • Apr 03, 2008 7:19:28 PM CDT

    For God's Sake!

    by mockingbuddha

    The answer for this show's future is so obvious! Change the name to Metropolis and move the story forward. That way you can stop having to pretend that Lex doesn't know Clark has powers and let Clark finally start wearing glasses and bumbling around trying to hit on Lois. After a couple of years add the costume in and, whatever, hire some writers or read the old comics and steal. This show isn't perfect but I have really enjoyed, (not sure enjoyed is the right word, maybe been fascinated by), the ongoing emotional damage that is being done to Lana. It's like she's some coveted object that EVERYBODY lies to. If you think Clark is the point of this show, I think you've missed the most fascinating part. For the record though Chloe is the hottest chick on the show.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 7:49:18 PM CDT

    I still love Allison Mack

    by performingmonkey

    The only thing that's saved this show on many an occasion is the Clark and Chloe stuff, mainly because Allison Mack is gorgeous and I just have to stare at the screen no matter what (she's a great actress, shame she's not been in more films) the chemistry she has with Tom Welling always beats him and Kristen Kreuk, of course it helps that Chloe is a better character than the insane Lana, who really should have died seasons ago!!!

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:02:59 PM CDT

    Good time for a semi-reboot

    by br1947

    Smallville pisses me off more than any other show because it had a good premise, and has had occasional moments of greatness, but mostly it's been a retarded soap opera and product placement opprotunity. As long as the show is going on, why not try and make it, oh... entertaining? Kill Lana, Kill Lionel, drop the prophetic bs story line, send Lois off on some journalistic crusade for a couple of seasons, give Clark glasses and have him move to Metropolis and begin interning at the Daily Planet. Put some distance between Lex & Clark, follow each almost as seperate storylines for a season or so, let Lex gain power, let Clark start fighting crime & the occasional super villian. Just because the name of the show is Smallville doesn't mean it has to stay there.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:19:13 PM CDT

    "Kill Lionel"??? WHAT THE FUCK YOU SMOKIN'???

    by shermdawg

    John Glover's Lionel is one of the FEW consistently enjoyable aspects of the show.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:22:54 PM CDT

    yea, I like him too, but his time is past

    by br1947

    Lex needs to kill him. It's really way past time to move beyond the Daddy issues and the only way to do that is to kill him off. It's just like Pa Kent, good character, but he had to die to move the story forward.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:23:29 PM CDT

    AND WHHHHHHHY DOES EVERYONE COMPAIN ABOUT THE TITLE???

    by shermdawg

    Yeah, he still lives on the farm, and Lex still lives in his Mans...uh...office, but like 90% of the show takes place in Metropolis nowadays, they have moved the show forward a bit more than some of you give it credit. Remember whe he was in the forest every week chasing down kryptofreaks?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:26:34 PM CDT

    "It's just like Pa Kent" FALSE.

    by shermdawg

    Pa Kent wsn't killed to move the story forward. Pa Kent was killed because of Superman Returns. And the viewers were screwed out of a decent payoff to their rivalry.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:28:54 PM CDT

    Also, with UNSOCIABLE HAMMER leaving (good for him)...

    by shermdawg

    ...why kill Lionel now?

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  • Apr 03, 2008 8:41:44 PM CDT

    wow

    by cory849

    I honestly didnt think this show was still making new episodes.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:01:35 PM CDT

    That's great news

    by veritasses

    It was frustrating to see all the potential of the Superman & DC Universe wasted on the awful and often painful tweener formula. Here's hoping a team that knows good, solid drama takes over.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:34:31 PM CDT

    Most crushing moment...

    by peterporker63

    Now, I will say that I enjoy the show way too much for all of its terrible flaws, but Smallville has given me one of the most fervent reactions I have ever had to a tv show. In Episode 100, when Clark chooses to save Lana over his dad, I absolutely lost it. I thought that the show had finally gotten rid of a huge problem, and instead it made the whole thing worse. I still tune in weekly, though, in hopes that someday Clark will finally reach his destiny.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:44:17 PM CDT

    DC Comics apparently rejected their ideas for a final season 8

    by greenflame0

    The announcement they wanted to go back to writing films is bullshit. CW budget cuts and having DC Comics rejecting the story ideas they had for the final season's last 10 episodes, is apparently the real reason.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:53:34 PM CDT

    Actually, my favorite Lex...

    by osmosis jones

    ...was Clancy Brown in the Dini/Timm Superman cartoon series from the 90's. In fact, that might be my favorite Superman series PERIOD.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:54:15 PM CDT

    Tops 3 things that drive me nuts about Smallville

    by yeti

    1. Clark used to have some semblance of a wardrobe now it's red shirt blue jacket/blue shirt red jacket (how subtle)
    2. In Seasons 1 through most of 4 Metropolis was a 3hr drive from Smallville, now it's 30 minutes (urban sprawl?)
    3. Charecters would seemingly drive across town (or from Smallville to Metrolopis when it was still a 3hr drive) to have three minute conversations with one another and except for Clark (super speed) it really drove me nuts.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 10:21:26 PM CDT

    Top 5 things that drive me nuts

    by phategod2

    5. Clark is a p*$$y whipped p*$$y. what does it say when the freaking Green Arrow has a better since of justice then the man of steel.4. Lana Lang I've wanted this broad to be dead for the longest. Lois Lanes a whore I know she hot but doesn't hooking up with every other superhero make her Sloppy seconds for superman. 3. does clark still go to school, have a job something what the hell does he do? 2. Would he hurry up and knock chloe off already damn stop the BS. 1. no body sees, feels or has video footage this fool running a supersonic speed.

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  • Apr 03, 2008 10:29:35 PM CDT

    Nope, Lionel still gotta die

    by br1947

    Lex will never be the villian he's supposed to be if they keep on with the daddy issues. Sorry, he's gotta go, just like Pa Kent.But I'd rather see Lana gone first. Really dead. No cameos. Dead. No ghosts. Dead. No clones. Dead. No twin sister. Dead. Clark is allowed 3 eps to moap about and grieve... then we move on and let him briefly hook up with Chloe and let the CW get their first FCC fines for graphic nudity. Yea I know she isn't an 'official' Superman ex, but show me one guy that wouldn't tell Supes to hit it.Lana dead, really, forever, DEAD. No more.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 12:18:45 AM CDT

    But he's not going to die though, he's signed for season 8.

    by shermdawg

    He won't die until sometime near the series finale. And once again, Pa Kent DIDN'T have to go. He was forced off the show.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 1:09:55 AM CDT

    EVen better idea

    by napoleon park

    cancel the show completely, fire the entire cast. Launch a new show called Metropolis following roughly the same continuity without being locked into it and case Jason Wiles (Bosco on Third Watch) as Superman/Clark Kent. Tights, flights, powers, capes, the whole deal, show Heroes how it's done. That I'd watch.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 2:38:52 AM CDT

    EVen better idea, let's quit talkin' but Smallville...

    by shermdawg

    ...focus on a good show for a change. Like SUPERNATURAL.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 3:49:52 AM CDT

    raymar

    by slkboxrman

    since when does a show that "ended" after 10 successful seasons like STARGATE seem "cancelled embarassingly" to u ...ill let u find ur brain then change that retarded statement.....smallville has been on 7 seasons now ...even if it ended now it would b considered a success....cant find my earlier post....but ive loved smallville from day one....im glad that they actually plan on finding the end next season..but i do like the fact that they have clark slowly(very slowly) accepting the fact that he has a higher calling....one more thing some of u people say drives me nuts "FILLER EPISODES" there is no such thing, on any show, cept maybe those "ethnically embarrasing" shows on the CW.....if there are elements of a previous plot of story arc that are touched upon, even for a sentence or scene in an episode, thats not filler.....the continuing problem for u diaper fanboys is that ....he dont fly...he dont show off his powers enuf.....u dont see more DC heroes on the show....i agree with the kill lana crusade, but the fact that she knows his secret sorta makes her less annoying , not much, but a lil...and i would totally mack on allison mack....and lois has a rack that i wanna attack....love the scene from last week when jimmy is talking to her and her cleavage is right there heaving out of her shirt..ahhhhh

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  • Apr 04, 2008 3:56:40 AM CDT

    napoleon park

    by slkboxrman

    if ur not a consistent viewer of this show u have no business saying whether its good or not.....watching a few in the beginning then not watching then watching the justice league episodes...then not watching.....too busy with ur video games or porn ? if u would have watched since day one u would have seen how that "justice league" episode came to be.....it was building towards that for awhile....the producers didnt just drop that in to give u fanboys ur first boner..... my rule on this site is "if u dont watch it, dont comment on it" cuz u basicallly have no right .....get it ? got it ? good !!

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  • Apr 04, 2008 6:32:58 AM CDT

    I say let them write the next Superman movie

    by chien_sale

    Smallville had its faults but quality-wise, when they were "on" were superior and succeeded in bringing about a fresh, new generation Superman more than Singer ever will with Superman Returns. Smallville is the Superman people knew the most in this generation. I suggest they should be bringing the whole crew and the actors to the big screen. You could say it's ten years later of the actual Smallville Universe.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 8:27:40 AM CDT

    Season 2

    by i am rocko

    Come on people, let us face facts. The show reached its zenith in Season 2- the episode "Rosetta", the introduction of Jor-El "The day is coming", hearing the Superman theme etc. Since then it has been entertaing, with flashes of greatness. Thank god this will be the last season. Kristen Kreuk will appear in a few episodes as she is starring in the new Streetfighter movie has the Lana character reached her arc two seasons ago. I just hope that the last few episodes really delivers: Lex killing Lionel- taking over Lexcorp and sitting atop of his skyscraper thinking how he will rule the world, Lana devastated she realises that her and Clark will never be together, Lois moving to Metropolis to work at The Daily Plant, and of course seeing the Superman suit at The Fortress, cue music, end credits.

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  • Lex in the comics is pathetic, one dimensional. What they did with Lex and his fall from grace in Smallville is like Michael Corleone in Godfather part 1 and 2.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 10:45:52 AM CDT

    Lois is sloppy seconds for Clark. FUNNY.

    by teethgnasher

    Way to go writers. What a bunch of dipshits.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 10:50:56 AM CDT

    What was the point of Smallville?

    by teethgnasher

    Can somebody please explain this to a man that spends over fifty dollars a month on superhero toys.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 4:25:44 PM CDT

    Change the name of the show to "METROPOLIS"

    by mattmanreturns

    And get him in the suit.

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  • Apr 04, 2008 4:27:35 PM CDT

    Teethgnasher

    by mattmanreturns

    Uh, no. Lex in the comics is more like Lex in Smallville. You might be thinking of the movie Lex, who is a doofus. The Lex of the comics has so much charisma and brains that he becomes president, despite his crimes. Oh wait, I guess you don't need brains or charisma for that...

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  • Apr 05, 2008 2:46:22 AM CDT

    Wohooo

    by stuart-renton

    Thank GOD. Those two have kept the show in the doldrums of mediocrity with their tunnel vision and hackneyed thinking. They only rate one step higher than Berman and Braga on the creative ladder and it's a shame such people have so much control over TV shows.

    I just pray it goes to someone more capable. Although I can't see how they could make Smallville any worse.

    This is a good thing and time to rejoice.

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  • Apr 05, 2008 4:50:38 PM CDT

    no flying, not even a lot of super jumping

    by bob c. cock

    why the hell, if clark has super duper strength, isn't he using those legs to jump a mile in the air? fuck this show.

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