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JOHN FROM CINCINNATI!! JOHN ADAMS!! RESCUE ME!! SHIELD!! BATMAN!! Cheapest TREK Ever!! HercVault!!

Published at:  Apr 01, 2008 11:20:52 PM CDT

SPOILER ALERT !!

"No Butchie instead!"


John From Cincinnati: The Complete Series hits shelves today. What did the talkbackers say beneath our first JfC post? The reaction to the first episode was not overwhelmingly positive!

“eppdude” said:

FUCK this show. and fuck David Milch - the cocksucker. Choosing to go with a surfing show over DEADWOOD? It's fucking unforgivable.


“Mel Garga” said:

… sometimes a turd is just a turd no matter whose overrated ass it came from. We're expected to have patience enough to wait for this show to find itself?


“fiester” said:

… I won't watch this crap. Fuck surfers, who gives a shit? I am all for letting creatives do their thing with minimal or no intrusion, but this seems like an bad idea from the get go.


“Add to Friends” said:

… Milch/John from Cinn = Sorkin/Studio 60. Every great is allowed one or two phuck ups in his career.


“jocutus” said:

After the first fifteen minutes I was already sick of hearing the name "Butchy". Can I possibly stand a whole series of that?


“bacci40” said:

ummm....what the fuck was that???? im serious...milch dumped deadwood to create....that???


“Dr Hemlock” said:

I gave up on it after 25 minutes. Cleaning the dinner dishes was more interesting.


“WONKABAR” said:

Uh, that was retarded.


“memento108” said:

What is it with Milch and the F word? I don't mind a FUCK here and there in my television or movies, but Christ, he uses the word more than excessively in this and Deadwood. Why is that? It's actually kinda annoying and distracting.


“Neo Zeed” said:

This show was shitty. The dysfuctional family stuff was pretty mundane and unoriginal. I don't really care to see how the mystical stuff pays off, since the main plot is soooo boring. …
Making a show in which a man floats and no one cares is not automatically deep. It's just lazy writing. It's just easier not deal with it and claim to be Twin Peaks-ish. If a man floated that would be the main topic of conversation for the rest of the century, not if some little kid should or should not surf! Who cares about a Family Channel plot like that anyway?


“SkidMarkedUndies” said:

WTF was that?


“grendel69” said:

Fuck John and the commitee that receives em.


“Hercules” said:

… based on the premise and pedigree and the promos, I sense this series could attract a rabid and vocal cult following by the time its first season concludes.


I offered that prediction before I saw episode one. Four episodes in, I was riveted by “John From Cincinnati.” Of all the shows arriving early last summer, it was easily the one I was most excited about.

I love Ramon Gaviota (Luis Guzman) and Meyer Dickstein (Willie Garson). I find hilarious their tireless, deadpan accommodations of the bizarre goings-on. I love the Yosts’ neighbor, the bird-hoarding retired cop Bill Jacks (Ed O’Neill), who thinks John Monad may be a sexual predator. I love Kai (real-life champion surfer Keala Kennelly), who demonstrates a hilarious talent for appraising nonsense. I love the doctor (Garret Dillahunt) who throws away his medical career when he witnesses a resurrection. And I love more than all of them John Monad (Austin Nichols), who owns a handsome pair of Automatic Teller Pants.

If you’ve not seen “Cincinnati,” it’s about residents of Imperial Beach, Calif., the one spot on the map where the United States, Mexico and the Pacific Ocean all converge.

One day, a guy named John Monad appears right on that convergence point. Monad may be an extraterrestrial. He acts just like a R-rated version of the title character from “Starman.” Everything he says is something another character has said since John beamed down to Imperial Beach. John Nomad, er, Monad still doesn’t seem to know how to use a toilet.

Monad can perform Starman-like miracles, Jenny Hayden. If you ask for $2,800, it magically appears in Monad’s pocket. (Same with anything else that can fit in Monad’s pants pocket. Need a high-limit credit card or a cell phone? You ask for it, Monad’s pants can provide.)

Monad can also make any metal in everybody’s body – metal skull plates, nipple rings, etc. – get really hot. To activate this superpower, Monad need only say, “See God.” Which is supercool.

Once Monad arrives in Imperial Beach, more Jesus-y miracles occur:

* A famous ex-pro surfer named Mitch Yost discovers he can sometimes levitate himself several inches above the ground.

* The famous surfer’s son discovers he can quit heroin without enduring withdrawal.

* The famous surfer’s grandson resurrects his neighbor’s parrot.

* When a horrifying surfing mishap turns the grandson into a brain-dead quadriplegic, the same parrot heals that grandson fully.

* When John himself is stabbed nearly to death by half-wit gangsters, a codger named Vietnam Joe – who makes his living helping illegal immigrants over the border – fully heals John.

* Toward the end Howard Hesseman, who starred in another show with "Cincinnati" in the title, turned up.

I love the show and, despite its dearth of dwarfs, I love it more than “Carnivale.”



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    Readers Talkback

  • Apr 01, 2008 3:24:16 AM CDT

    Cincinnati better than Carnivale? Fuck you Herc!

    by slimballs

    Carnivale was the shit. Cincinnati was just plain shit.
    I liked the stuff with John, but the family drama was worse than watching a lifetime program

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  • Apr 01, 2008 3:45:00 AM CDT

    That's a good start Paramount, but keep going...

    by tonagan

    I'm a cheap, cheap bastard.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 3:46:58 AM CDT

    What's with the 50 miles of advertising?

    by jesus of suburbia

  • Apr 01, 2008 4:49:46 AM CDT

    Frith

    by napoleon park

    dozens of people all over the world are lining up to buy the Lipstick Jungle season one DVD set. At least four dozen, world wide. Maybe almost five. I actually posted this thrid and I can;t figure out why it was deleted. personally i liked the show, but I can't imagine there are than many people - especially from the AICN target demo - who are going to want a permanent collection of it. Maybe a few really devoted Kim Raver fans.At least Cashmere Mafia had girl on girl kissing in nearly every episode.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 6:04:53 AM CDT

    Picked up ST Fan Collective/Time Travel

    by jack black

    Still can't pay 35.5 per season. Knock another 10 off and I'm there.


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  • Apr 01, 2008 6:47:16 AM CDT

    John Adams

    by knightshift

    That has been some of the finest television in quite awhile. Glad to see this coming to DVD and fairly soon too!

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  • Apr 01, 2008 7:54:44 AM CDT

    Ditto on John Adams ...

    by itchy

    one of the best things I've seen on TV. I miss the miniseries format - some of the greatest TV moments ever have been miniseries, and they'd be much more enjoyable without commercials: V, Lonesome Dover, Winds of Ware ... great stuff.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 9:16:27 AM CDT

    Carnivale. Please finish it.

    by stormwatcher

    That is all.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 9:32:06 AM CDT

    Forgot about that Assignment Earth

    by skimn

    episode of Star Trek with Teri Garr. Was that to be a spin-off? BTW, amazed at the early career of Miss Garr. Working with Coppola, Spielberg, Brooks, Pollack, etc.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 11:24:50 AM CDT

    AWWW! WHO'S A GOOD LITTLE WILDCAT?

    by wash

    Aren't you a good little wildcat! Come here, let me just pet your...OWW, FUCK!!!

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  • Apr 01, 2008 11:45:36 AM CDT

    SNL limited edition

    by bouncy x

    from what i've read, the only difference is that it comes in special packaging. there isnt any extra material or discs or anything.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 11:52:23 AM CDT

    WTB John Adams talkback

    by godmars

    How is it you guys cover some complete and utter shite here, yet totally pass by this show?

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  • Apr 01, 2008 12:32:13 PM CDT

    John Adams from Cincinnati

    by tonagan

    Now that would be a show.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 12:32:46 PM CDT

    Or John Adams from WKRP in Cincinnati

    by tonagan

    It just writes itself.

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 01, 2008 12:45:14 PM CDT

    Brunomac

    by laserhead

    So you wish your mom had given you a handjob? Good luck with that.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 1:32:10 PM CDT

    Trek prices still too high

    by crweb

    The price of the Star Trek Original Series is still too high. As much as I love the original series I will not purchase until I can get them on sale for around $20.00 each. I really don't think the prices are going to go back up significantly.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 1:52:15 PM CDT

    John Adams...

    by expert40

    ...Herc, how can you love a complete and utter piece of offal like John from Cincinnati and completely ignore one of the greatest miniseries in television history that is taking place RIGHT THE FRAK NOW?Are you frakking retarded?John Adams is up there with Band of Brothers, with Roots. This is American History at it's best and most intriguing, filled with performances from Wilkenson, Linney, and of course Giamatti, that makes the angels in heaven weep.What the FRAK is wrong with you and this site that you guys get it so right with Angel or Buffy or BSG, miss so badly on JfromC, and totally ignore the brilliance of John Adams?Where's the consistency?

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  • Apr 01, 2008 2:03:23 PM CDT

    Yay! Incest!

    by expert40

    You know what they say in West Virginia, right?

    Why walk across the street when you can just walk across the hall?

    Love that incest!

    Now excuse me while I go shower myself for 3 hours and light my clothes on fire, Crying Game-style.

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  • Reuniting for one of Thomas' pilots, the Outrageous Fortune remake: http://tinyurl.com/yskeu2

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  • Apr 01, 2008 3:38:42 PM CDT

    Maxwell Smart BOMBS NAKEDLY in Nude Bomb

    by otisspofford

    Thank you - I have to go back to my desk at MAD Magazine now - by the way WHERE is Get Smart on DVD - Amazon offers seasons for something like $3,000 - isn't affordable Max and 99 a no-brainer?

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  • Apr 01, 2008 3:39:06 PM CDT

    While you're at it...

    by otisspofford

  • Apr 01, 2008 3:40:11 PM CDT

    While you're at it

    by otisspofford

    How about F TROOP? Ah, 60's comedy at its finest - oh, and I'd like all of LAUGH-IN, too.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 4:51:58 PM CDT

    Yes, yes Herc made that prediction. He's so awesome.

    by crayon

    Or at least he would be if it was true for JfC. While it did pick up, it still largely remained "fuck this show" for most people. Sure, there were a few people who were really into it, but hardly more than any other show to give it cult status.

    Me, I wouldn't have minded seeing another season, to see where Milch would have taken it, but it really was pretty uneven

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  • Apr 01, 2008 6:40:02 PM CDT

    Sorry, but Herc's taste is not mine.

    by zerocorpse

    Herc likes Buffy and Gilmore Girls, like someone's little sister. If I didn't know better, I'd say Herc is just Malexandria (remember her?) with a different pen-name.
    So you'll forgive me if I NEVER, EVER watch "John From Cincinnati" -- Because if Herc loves it, I'm sure to hate the fuck out of it and think it's for retarded cheerleaders.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 7:00:20 PM CDT

    Miami Vice, D@mn it!!!

    by iontyre

    I need seasons 4 and 5, CHEAP!!! Come on, is this the only TV series that never goes on sale????

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  • Apr 01, 2008 9:31:03 PM CDT

    Not sure I follow you on JFC, Herc

    by fradolcino

    You show us a dozen talkback comments, all of which bemoan the utter lack of quality of the show (or at the least, the AICN community's lack of interest in it), then you show one positive comment (yours), then proceed to elaborate all the finer points of why JFC was a great show. So, I guess my point is, what's your angle? Are you trying to imply/prove that the talkbackers don't know what they're talking about? Without generalizing it seems the fact that JFC got shit-canned implies that the talkbackers were right all along. So if you're trying to convince us to give it a shot on DVD, why flood us with bad comments? This is your column, just tell us your opinion. If I look at a dozen or more people badmouthing a show that was canceled, my instinct is to avoid it. Then again, I'm biased - and I still mourn Deadwood... Cocksuckers! :(

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  • Apr 01, 2008 11:07:24 PM CDT

    I GOT QUOTED AGAIN!!!

    by skidmarkedundies

    MORE JOHN FROM CINCINNATI TALKBACKS!!! YEAH!!!

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  • Apr 01, 2008 11:08:30 PM CDT

    And just for quoting me, Herc...

    by skidmarkedundies

    I'll give it another chance. It's the least I can do.

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  • Apr 01, 2008 11:16:30 PM CDT

    it's just like John Carter Of Cincinatti

    by napoleon park

    except with Tarzan of the Delta

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  • Apr 01, 2008 11:45:22 PM CDT

    loved jfc.

    by frankenfickle

    i don't think they really had a strong vision for where it was going, though, so i guess it's better to get only one season and let my mind do the rest of the work, rather than have hbo pull a george lucas and follow empire with turd-torpedos 6, 1, 2, and 3.

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  • Apr 02, 2008 12:02:30 PM CDT

    Milch torpedoed his own show

    by i am_notreal

    When he said "I don't know what it's about." It had a two-finger grip on me until then, but when I saw that I thought, "if the show's creator doesn't care, why should I?" In the time it took me to read that quote, my interest level in the show dropped from a solid 6 on a 10-point scale to absolute zero, and I'd wager I'm not the only one.

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  • Apr 02, 2008 12:57:31 PM CDT

    Thanks for the quote.

    by fiester

    But where is my prediction this show would get canceled?

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  • Apr 02, 2008 2:46:06 PM CDT

    I am_NOTREAL, you weren't the only one

    by big jim

    I had the same reaction. I thought he might have been kidding but my faith that the show had a purpose was less than solid. Up to that point I was watching the episodes as they aired. After reading that comment I don't think I recored the episodes and didn't watch until after the last episode had aired and had read there was some finality to it.

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  • Apr 02, 2008 3:17:43 PM CDT

    that should read:

    by big jim

    "After reading that comment I recorded..."Damn, it's difficult to express a coherent thought when your boss keeps popping in. Can't a guy read AICN on company time without being bothered by work stuff? What's this world coming to?

    Reply to Talkback

  • Apr 02, 2008 11:35:38 PM CDT

    Get Smart won't be on Amazon for some time

    by gorrister

    Right now, it's only available excusively through Time-Life. They have the distribution rights and won't let anyone else sell it.

    If you want to pay a massively inflated price, you can get it at: http://www.timelife.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=1001&langId=-1&productId=211683

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  • Apr 03, 2008 9:00:36 AM CDT

    JfC was a strange and wonderful journey. I found

    by crichtonastronut

    it's unapologetic weirdness refreshing and the community spirit was cool. Loved DeMorney and Cass. But no, it wasn't as good as Carnivale, nor John Adams which should hav gotten the lions share of attention on this HercVault. That said JfC still awesome.

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