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LEGION Gathers A Cool Cast!!
Merrick here...
Dennis Quaid has joined the cast of LEGION. Tyrese Gibson, Charles S. Dutton, Lucas Black, and Paul Bettany will also star.
the thriller casts Bettany as the archangel Michael, the only one standing between mankind and an apocalypse, after God loses faith in humanity. Man's lone hope rests with a group of strangers who must deliver a baby they realize is Christ in his second coming.
..says THIS ARTICLE in Variety.
Quaid is, well, Quaid. No matter what he's in, he;ll always be Gordo Cooper to me ("Who's the best pilot you ever saw?"). Tyrse is cool. Dutton is cool. Bettany is cool. Even if the film flounder horribly, it should be fun to see these folks do their stuff.
LEGION will be directed by Scott Stewart. He's an effects guy who worked on PIRATES 2 & 3, LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, and MARS ATTACKS among other credits.
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need i say more. oh yah...suck my balls.
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What is the premise of Legion?
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I feel bad because you left him out.
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before they make up for having such a crappy plot. Leave the second coming stuff to Mel Gibson. He's the only one with enough crazy conviction to sell the premise to the movie buying public. The film would still suck, but at least people will go and see it.
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Mar 28, 2008 9:02:38 AM CDT
Maybe it's the Scott Stewart who is listed as this movie's direc
by shoegeezer
on the IMDB. I know AICN is a website, but do you guys even have internet access?
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Yeah great cast.
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Search your feelings, you know it to be true.
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And replace Bettany, with Nicholas Cage; Quaid with Michael Biehn...and bring Connery out of retirement and replace Tyrese with him. Actually i think i'll just go watch The Rock instead.
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I might see this just for him, the same reason I saw The Fast and the Curious 3: Tokyo Shit.
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Uhhh ok
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Cat hater.
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Didn't they read Kevin Smith's run on Daredevil? In the Second Coming story (or mythology, if you prefer that word), when Christ returns, he's coming as an ADULT, not a baby.
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You make me smile. I love how you reference Kevin Smith's Daredevil as your source material for matters ecumenical. Hey, just fyi, the Bible says stuff about it too.
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I site the *important* authorities.
But Smith was right -- and in fact, he made it a plot point to the entire arc. AFAIK, everything in the Bible about the Second Coming indicates Jesus will return as an adult, that there will be a Descension. -
Let's have a look at some other gems directed by effects guys, shall we? Eragon, Battlefield Earth, Spawn... How about those guys who directed AVP: Requiem? This does sound promising.
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Why?
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...how would an angel and a bunch of humans be any match for him? He's GOD! And, don't you think God be aware that Jesus was coming back, since God has to magically fuck a virgin to produce a messiah? Granted, this isn't any more unbelievable than the shit that's in the bible, but come on - he's GOD! They can't win this one.
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YEAH!
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Oh, God loses faith in humanity, huh? Since when is God a temporal creature? He's omnipresent, and that includes the temporal sphere. He can't just decide on March 10th to lose faith in humanity, if he loses faith, he would lose it at all points in time past and future -- and the effect would be the same as if he never had faith in the first place.
And if you don't think this means we can tie in TimeCop somehow, well, you're just not paying attention. -
Yeah well people don't really think which is why they follow religions and believe in stupid shit like the devil even though god is all powerful, the devil will try to overtake god, how? God is God, but it's in the bible and people believe it. Religious people lack imagination. Fuck it. When Geoff Johns can make a badass apocalypse sound cooler in 2 pages than the revelations you know the religion is shit.
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How the hell has no one made a short film of Murder Mysteries yet?
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It's no Devil's job.. His job is to take and consume souls. He works for Gods... Think of him as the garbage man and god is the mayor.
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God kicks the Devil in the balls and says "Don't FUCK with God!"it made a believer out of me.
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Again, Hollywood takes a perfectly good idea (angels battling demons) and turns it into complete crap by adding a 'human' element. Sorry, this movie will suck. No, I don't need to see it. Hello, Hollywood, just make a film about Satan rebelling against God and the awesome battle that comes afterward finishing with the creation of Hell itself. Why does it have to be anymore complicated than that???????? Christ! Ha!
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Films like this are just silly, irrational, religious cocksucking wastes of time. I'll pass.
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This is what, the 86th attempt to film this plot in recent years!
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I once asked an Evangelical why God would send an upstanding an moral unbeliever to Hell just because that unbeliever didn't believe in him. I mean, isn't that a little petty for the creator of the Universe? Guess what the answer was? It is because God, even though he may love the unbeliever, cannot stand to be in the presence of someone who doesn't believe in him. But this is an omnipotent creature, right? Yet somehow belief is his kryptonite? God's powers are less consistent than Superman's.
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not another effects guy making a movie. Jeez don't the studios learn. It don't matter how amazing he is at effects, it doesn't mean he can direct. That's why I respect the like of Dennis Muren so much. He knows he's an effects guy and sticks to what he knows best.
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Come on, that was like 12 years ago, which in movie terms is like 21.4 quadrillion years. BTW, can anybody tell the difference between Elias Koteas and Chris Merloni?
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The Prophecy was passable because of Walken (the first one only), but I can't think of a truly solid end of the world film. Any suggestions? Anyone?
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Unfortunately they won't give this a downer ending. We need a movie where there's no glimmer of hope at the end. Humanity ends. Period. No miracle cures, no virgin births, no saved-by-bacteria-humans-became-immune-to millenia-ago, no iMac uploaded computer viruses, no shuttle pilots flying into cracks with warheads, no wise-cracking-made-Harry-cry oil riggers waiting until the final second to push the button, no supposed-former-infatuation-junkies swooping down to stop the angel of death, no Polish astronauts planning a nighttime landing on the sun with nukes, no drilling to the earth's core in a ship made of an indestructibe metal called CanYouBelieveThisBullshitium. None of it. Just humanity wiped clean from the face of the earth by the invisible Jewish carpenter in the sky.
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Left Behind book, I think you'll get what you want (at least based on what I've heard)
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Mar 28, 2008 10:48:35 AM CDT
Chrth: Can we get that without all the religious preachiness?
by hawaiian organ donor
I haven't read the books but I've read several articles about it's two authors and they seem a little too "Marriage = Man + Woman" bumper sticky to me.
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Not from Left Behind we can't. But I agree, a good ol' Apocalypse with no survivors and no hope might be interesting. Maybe someone needs to film 5 Billion AD
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so instead of angels wanting us dead, they try and help us.
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"The Tuck Pendleton machine, zero defects! Ahhhhhhh!"
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You should get your script up on Zhura for the masses to read, and maybe get discovered. But yes, we need a downer ending. If Hollywood is determined to have a glimmer of hope, then after humanity has been wiped clean, have the final scene be a fish emerging from the water and winking at the camera.
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Yeah, let's have a story about God and Satan, but, you know, just leave out the religious parts, the moral imperatives, cause, you know, we don't want to think about or acknowledge that sort of thing. Course, that just reduces the whole dang opera to a cosmic pissing match, but you know, what the h*ll.
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and angel gets it's wings. I don't care one bit about the religious angle. I'm just always excited when I hear one of those guys is getting his shot at directing. He's "our guy" in a way. Usually hardcore film (the good kind)or art geeks, or combination of the two. I'm rooting for this one. Best of luck, Scott Stewart.
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I think our diametrically opposed posts just created a wormhole.
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What I meant was, if you're going to have an end of days movie where God decides to go back to the drawing board, I personally wouldn't want the Almighty coming down and saying, "Humanity made a mistake. Now it's time to erase that mistake." The mistake being gay marriage, blow jobs in the Oval Office and wanting to tax the upper class. I don't want a movie about the director's agenda, but rather what you would expect a god to get really cheesed off at, like allowing things to get so bad that we kill each other over $5 in the cash register. I'm an aethist and I'm dying to see a God vs. Satan movie told right so that tells you just how compelling the source material is. It just needs to be a true good vs. evil battle, not a left vs. right squabble.
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Jaws 3-D: FTFW, bitchz.
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Whenever I hear crazy christians talk about the revelations and all that will happen I just tell them that I doubt if there is someone with omnipotent power he would make such a boring uninspired Apocalypse. End of Earth. boring. I want to see the end of the Multiverse at the hands of the Anti Monitor. Instead of earth threatened by beasts, have reality threatened by a psychotic superboy.
Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon." - Boring
"Seven Corps will be born. Seven Corps will shine their light brightly. Seven Corps will be at War" - Epic.
Revelations doesn't sound as badass as FINAL CRISIS or THE BLACKEST NIGHT. -
Ripped off (badly) more often than H.R. Giger. Exorcist III was a terrific movie that desrves a second look. The ending was forced on Blatty by the studio becuase they wanted hollywood BS payoff rather than the chilling psycological study that the film was supposed to be. Read the book (legion by Blatty) for those of you who still read. The movie has far more in common with the Ninth Configuration than the original Exocist film. George C. Scott "Did you enjoy your luxury voyage on the Patna, Lord Jim ?" Fucking brilliant dialogue
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For a second I thought you were serious. DC comics multiverse is an inaccessible mess.
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that all the symptoms that Christians speak out against, as per the Biblical teachings, such as gay marriage, fornication, etc, spring from the root cause, the 'original sin' recorded in Genesis 3. The original sin, incidently, is why Satan rebelled against God, so it's vital to any tale of Good v. Evil. The original sin is this: to put oneself before God on the hierarchy of the soul, which Lucifer did and Adam did, and you and I also do. It's not a question of politics, true, but the root question of good and evil, morality, etc. is what has to be there, right?
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according to Dogma, God is neither omniscient, omnipotent, nor omnipresent, so I guess accuracy and rationality go out the window when Hollywood tackles the Bible.
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If I remember correctly from my days at the private Christian school I attended as a wee one, in the same passage in the bible where it says that a man shall not sleep with another man, it also says death shall be dished out to farmers who sow more than one crop in the same field and to people who wear clothes of blended materials. Now I'm pretty sure even half nekkid tribesmen in the middle of nowhere are wearing a dual blend thong so that means every man, woman and child would all be sent to hell. That would make for a super short movie. I was referring to a Heaven vs Hell movie that doesn't take the literal translation of the Old and New Testaments. Less "word of man", more "power of the almighty."
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Mar 28, 2008 1:26:45 PM CDT
How exactly does one route against somebody/thing?
by reel american hero
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You got a point there, man. The successes are the exceptions to the rule, now that I go over it a bit more in my head. But yeah, I'm still rootin' for the guy.
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I was working in DC at Pentagon City Mall at a stupid keosk selling Vacation Packages. Worst job ever. And here Iam standing around doing people watching because people in DC dont go on vacations. And WHAM this random big black guy comes out of no where walking INTO my keosk saying "Yo man Im using your juice Im using your juice." Im thinking what the fuck? Alright sure I guess. Whatever he meant I was thinking Fuck It? So translation means. (Im going to plug my Sidekick into your power adaptor so I can charge it and leave you to gaurd it for an hour. I litterally never even responded to him because he just stormed in and took me by surprise. So sure you can charge your gay T-Mobile device. So he starts shopping around with his 2 body gaurds. (each white by the way...weird) He goes into EB Games and just has his goons staring me down the whole time like Im going to touch or steal the Sidekick. I was located in the food court so later they get some lunch and Tyrese and his friends are just staring me down like Im going to open his phone and still Lohans number or something. He finally gets up, starts walking towards me and just grabs his Sidekick and c harger without a thank you and or any verbal or physical form of grattitude. Maybe he thought I worked for the mall and he didnt need to be polite? All in all he just came off as a cocky prick. I met alot of celebs in that mall and he was the worst. The nicest celeb? Ironically R. Kelly....guess I wasnt piss worthy ...sigh...Oh and Bobby Brown talked to me once there and he was SHIT FACED...musta been 11am too. Tyrese sucks. Thanks
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you're referring to the Mosaic law, under which it was unlawful to eat pig meat. In the New Testament, however, the Mosaic law was rendered moot for the most part, provided that people accept the new law, which is grace through faith in Jesus Christ. However, all the behaviors murder, gossip, lying, theft, homosexuality, lust, etc are still sins. And homosexuality is still condemned in the New Testament, along with the previously mentioned sins among others. Also, it's not as much the condemnation of people to hell by God, it's more of people chosing to "rule in Hell rather than serve in Heaven" in their own lives.
Xiphos, we disagree on the rationality of the Bible and Christian tenets. I'm saying that if you're going to work under the assumption of certain premises the Bible teaches, then you must be consistent with all of what the Bible teaches, namely, the all-powerful nature of God vs. the inability of God to escape a human body. If you're going to play tennis, play by the rules or don't call it tennis. -
You know, nice 2 hr brain-number. Tyrese Gibson and Lucas Black are really good actors.
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how about AVP:R....
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With Travolta and Olivia Newton-John, where Gene Hackman was God and the great Oliver Reed was Satan?
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was that even if you are the nicest person on Earth, helped people out, gave money to charities, etc., but you didn't believe in God, then you were condemned to Hell. To me condemning someone to Hell for not believing in God is an immoral act. Now, I've made a few immoral mistakes in my life, but generally I've tried to be an ethical person. However, I have never done anything as atrocious as send someone to Hell because they did not believe in me. My point is, if what my church taught me is true, that you must believe in God (specifically that Jesus is the son of God) or else you go to hell, then I am a more ethical and upstanding person than this God character. So, why would I want to worship someone who has condemned countless of innocent people to eternal damnation?
I don't believe in The Bible, but taken as mythology there's some interesting stuff in there. Most of it is in the Old Testament. The Gospels are interesting but the rest of the New Testament pretty much blows, especially the Pauline letters. Absolutely awful, and half of them aren't even written by Paul. -
I guess the same way this is "cool" news. I saw the origial Roc in the L.A. Airport once. I almost got his autograph but then I he showed me his knife letting me know to back off. Good thing I saw Locked Up, otherwise I would have no clue about prison laws.
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Since this is the most recent topic....Its 3:15 Central time and there has been no new Forgetting Sarah Marshal news or reviews today?!? WTF, I'm a little worried AICN!
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And now we wait.
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I just logged in to say that, then noticed someone else already did pretty much the same LSH based joke. Oh well, actually I'm surprised more people didn't.
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Where is that quote from? It sounds familiar. Didn't the creature from King's IT say that?
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That's what you get for working at a cell phone kiosk, which automatically makes you an asshole. Kinda like towtruck drivers, and anyone who works for Gamestop with their fucking "if you don't preorder, you'll NEVER find this game anywhere" speeches. Get a real job. Good for Tyrese. He put your stupid annoying kiosk to good use.
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Some people don't think because they are so bitter that they had a sneaky Uncle hump them up their rancid asses and they liked it so much they would leave Sexual Healing playing in the background thus inducing a blind self-loathing that forces them to show how much of a complete cock munching shit nugget they are in front of everyone. Seriously, go be bitter and disillusioned somewhere else you dripping cunts. It's getting old.
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...there needs to be more of them. Too many are afraid to touch the "god" stories.
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Even for a movie of this category...
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Nah, you got me pegged wrong: I'm sunny and optimistic (seriously, go read my comments in the Star Trek picture thread from the other day). I just think they'd be better off using the ample source material rather than muck things up for the sake of some forced drama.
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I'm an atheist, so this isn't MY jive, but I think a proper Christian would say the following...
Hell is simply the absence of God. God doesn't send you to hell...YOU SEND YOURSELF THERE!!!!Very storybook, I can see why children so quickly believe it. -
You guys never went to sunday school? or read a King James Bible before? Jesus Christ is suppose to come back to earth not as baby in diapers but as an adult supernaturally to take care of business and kick butts in this earthly age with a rod of iron,it is written!
Michael & Gabriel are important but
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can't wait... ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...
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Jesus as a baby in the Second Coming? This is silly. You might as well portray God as a man in a blue and red tight with cape
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Mar 29, 2008 2:06:45 AM CDT
Will they make Lucifer as the scapegoat like he is all this time
by darthbakpao
Anything goes wrong, it's devil's fault
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...this film is based on. A complete philosophical misunderstanding of God, as Christians understand, and the purpose of the birth of Christ. Logically, Jesus cannot be born again, or it wouldn't be Jesus. Christians believe in the Trinity, a fourth makes no logical sense. Jesus already accomplished his mission, and was already Resurrected. Not just 'revived', not just rising, but his body is renewed into an eternal spiritual body. There would be no point in doing it all over again if it even has any logical meaning to say Christ is coming back as an infant. One does not 'come back' as infants in Christianity, perhaps in some eastern religion that believes in reincarnation, but for Christians, our individual identity and physical life have a true and permanent meaning to our eternal destiny. Our identities are eternal. God also loves His creation perfectly, an idea of God 'losing faith' in His creation makes no sense. Also, if God lost faith, why would He come back? The plot contradicts itself unless the creators have no understanding of who Jesus is, that he is God. This is what happens when, like many fundamentalists, a lazy and simplistic interpretation of Christianity is made. It's amazing that what is essentially a story directed toward children, the Chronicles of Narnia, reflect with much more depth Christian theology, because the creator of the story, Lewis, understood the complexity of the Christian religion.
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"Man's lone hope...is Christ in his second coming."I don't pretend to be christian, but how exactly is the second coming a good thing? Isn't that what they said would bring about the end of days; i.e. the end of mankind?
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just doesn't work. Hell, it barely works with naked preggers Demi Moore. And naked preggers Rachel Weise got the other wise boring as hell Constant Gardener an Oscar nod. You gotta know it's time to ive up on a genre when naked hot pregnant chicks can't save it.
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the movie would have to define god. in this movie god would have to be defined as flawed since god created flawed humankind + god would have known ahead that said god would lose faith in humankind blah blah blah.
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then this movie is saying god is a deadbeat dad.
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That's sacrilege. Literally. ;)
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Which is cool, and you seem able to resist the prodding and baiting of some of the more crass elements of a regular AICN talkback, and, above all, you actually really do seem to have a full knowledge of your beliefs, which is rare and impressive around here.
One thing, though, putting homosexuality in the same category as murder and rape isn't going to make you a very popular poster. Even the homophobes don't like being told to hate homos because the Bible says so. I know this is a pickle, in this day and age, your faith telling you one thing, and the concept of Human Rights contradicting it, but isn't there something about that in the Bible too? Something about leading a pious life, but respecting the laws of man? I don't know, I'm a lapsed catholic turned atheist, who cares what I have to say, right? -
specifically, that said, if I remember correctly, that when Moses brought the Tablets down from Mount Siania that it was new contract between God and man, and that the previous rules no longer applied. I don't recall homosexuality being referenced in the ten commandments. But even if it is the interpretation indicates that the Biblical rules are for man's benefit and may change to fit the changing needs of man.
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I don't think Jesus actually said anything one way or the other on the subject, either.
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a pretty interesting take on God and Lucifer. I think would make pretty good film.
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a pretty interesting take on God and Lucifer. I think would make pretty good film.
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this film is Kirk Cameron. This movie needs a healthy dose of crazy dead eye. I always thought that Cameron was just a harmless psychopath, but it turns out he accused the writers on Growing Pains, the most morality laden TV show, of being child pornographers for breaching the subject of teen sex. What a douche.
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Mar 29, 2008 4:18:21 PM CDT
Hmm, reading my post to Grey, I regret being soo sarcastic
by samsquanch
There actually is an opportunity to have a respectful and interesting conversation on the topic of how Christianity can accept homosexuality. I'm no expert, I'm neither christian nor homosexual, but as one of those many people who sits in the audience watching the conflict being endlessly continued, I'm just as frustrated as anyone.
The actual text in the Bible was written by men. Only the most fervent and wild-eyed fundamentalists take every passage as literal truth, so for those thinking believers who choose the essence of the Word, rather than the literal text, I ask you: Don't you think it's possible that since homosexuality is a perennial, ubiquitous human phenomenon, it might be exempt from the categories of morality and/or sin? Don't you think that it's possible that in this one case at least, the men who wrote the Bible might have flubbed it? That its likely that their own agendas may have gotten stirred in with the Holy Word? After hundreds of years of rewrites, edits, translations, lost and found bits and pieces, patches, and fixes that it's JUST POSSIBLE that not everything in the Bible follows the essence of the Word of God? We understand what homosexuality is now, better than they did 2000 years ago. It isn't demons, it isn't divine punishment, its a component of human sexuality. Even heterosexuality has been re-evaluated by the church since those times.
I brought up human rights in my last post. Now, whatever you may think or believe about gay people, their lifestyle, their sexuality, or their souls, you have to admit that they are human, right? and that they have the same rights as anyone else? Don't you think that in this day and age the Church could find it in its collective heart to accept that? Isn't that more in line with the essence of the Word?
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As far as the premise of this flick, yeah it sounds way stupid and blasphemous but duh, it's Hollywood so I'm not at all surprised. The cast is far from "cool" Sounds like a collection of c-listers at best. I'm all about angel flicks but there hasn't been one done right yet and I don't think this one's gonna change that.
You atheists crack me up with your ignorant comments. You just don't want to be held accountable for your actions and you want to believe so badly that you're in absolute control of everything in your lives but you're not.
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Organized Religion is exactly whats turning people away from God nowadays. Who wouldn't be open to the idea of an afterlife? Instead we have "holy" men saying "you can't do this and you can't do that."
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Always a worry when someone puts the word "you" in front of another word for a group of people...
I'm not sure you actually understand, Mr Indisguise, what the word "atheist" means?
It's got nothing to do with being in control of anything or being held accountable for anything... Simply means you don't believe in God. Jesus. Heaven. All that crap... You just don't buy it - or any of the other flavours, either - and that's the beginning and the end of it.
All the rest is just you projecting your own shit on other people - actually, now that I think about it, it's ALL you projecting your shit on other people, isn't it?
I like a good Bible story as much as the next guy - I just don't get the shits if people don't believe it's Based On A True Story... -
how about The Quiet Earth aka Omega Man aka I Am Legend?
how about the introduction to The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy?
how about that crappy animation... Titan AE or something like that? Actually that was an *almost* extinction of mankind so I guess that doesn't count
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Linda finds a guy she likes but tells him she can only love a man if he has ten inches so he calls the doctor and tells her that the doctor says he can cut it down to any size she wants. Then they make love, he reaches her "tingler" and she hears bells. They lie back smiling and fall asleep and the camera rotates and zooms in on her wet face as the music plays the theme song.Oh wait, that's how Deep Throat ends.
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BTW - for those few who might not know - the "Legion" bit refers to Jesus finds a possessed guy and asks the demon what its name was. Its response was the rather cryptic "My name is Legion, for we are many" most likely referring to the Roman term for a Division of troops. Jesus then gets rather annoyed with this and sends the Demon into a herd of pigs who run off a cliff. Lovely stuff
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I've always read the Old Testament condemnation of homosexuality as a law meant to help the tribe of Israel survive. Think of it, a small tribe in the desert surrounded by enemies. One of the means of surviving is reproducing. So, the ban isn't a moral condemnation so much as a survival technique. Today, when we're overpopulated, the ban on homosexuality no longer has a purpose. Those who believe in it are merely picking and choosing from the Bible in order to reinforce their own personal prejudices.
You know, JackRabbitSlim, the one thing that always bothered me about that story, was the fact that the herd of pigs belonged to someone. So, Jesus pretty much killed off someone else's livestock. Anyway, it's probably one of the cooler parts of the New Testament. -
an Apocalypse and the Horsemen.
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I beleive it was most recently used in Ghost Rider by Blackheart after he asorbed all those souls in that town.
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I hadn't thought of it that way, but it definitely works.
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so why do you sound so frightened?
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like something they'd put in that Mitchell and Webb look. Sort of like when they had the Bond-like villain try to hire a contractor to turn the book case into a revolving wall. "That's a load baring wall." "We can do this one, but we'll have to take the fireplaceout. We can't rotate the chimney. And we'll have to put a big sign that says this wall will rotate."
And the trap door bit was even funnier. Real life logic and movie logic don't work.
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Christians shouldn't equate homosexuality with a mortal sin like murder, it is viewed more like a condition such as alchoholism. Morally, homosexuality is not much worse than a promiscuous heterosexual lifestyle. It goes back to creation, that each sex has a God-given purpose, differnet purposes, just as each individual is different; homosexuality goes against Nature as God intended based on Genesis; God says to be fruitful, a homosexual relationship biologically and naturally cannot be fruitful, in terms of offspring, and for Christians and Jews, that would also go for being spiritually fruitful. Philosophically, homosexuality is like any sin, it is called that because it ultimatley will lead you away from God and our true purpose, and our true desires. Chesterton sums it up best talking about Christian charity; we must hate the sin, more than any religion or philosophy has ever done in the past, but paradoxically, and at the same time, love and forgive the sinner more than any religion or spiritual teaching has ever done; hate the sin , love the sinner. To hate homosexuals is a graver sin for Christians than homosexuality itself, but we must never stop condemning the sin itself.
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That's right about the the term 'Legion' it also philosophically refers to a characteristic of evil partly being defined as losing one's identity, losing one's God given identity and getting lost in a demonic hive, a blob that is essentially nothingness; Lewis and Chesterton compare it to many modern philosophies, such as Communism, the philosophy of the Hive, losing individuality and real meaning. Tolkien touches on it as well with the effects of the Ring, and a formless and shapeless Sauron. Evil is shapelessness, void of meaning and purpose.
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is what leads to the idea of 'Legion', a jumbled meaningless mess...religion is organized only because God is the ultimate measure of organization as opposed to chaos. As Chesterton put it, Christianity is a philosophy of shapes and the enemy of shapelessness.
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but if that's true, the Christian definition of homosexuality as a 'condition' only counts for Christian homosexuals. Secular homosexuals, or gay people of other religions don't factor into the very specific Christian structure. I understand your point- that it qualifies as a sin because it's a behavior that doesn't fit exactly into God's rigid plan for humanity, but then so much human behavior doesn't that it almost becomes an absurd point to pursue. I know this gets into the deeper waters of debate, the Christian vs the non-Christian, which I have no interest in engaging in. Basically, your message is comforting, it means that Christians don't mean any harm by their homophobia, and, in fact, since you limit the rules to your own tribe, you are essentially harmless. As long as you don't start forcing your beliefs on non-Christians, everyone can just agree to disagree.
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