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Learn Who Plays Laura Bush In Oliver Stone’s W!!
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Dreamy Elizabeth Banks, star of Kevin Smith’s “Zack and Miri Make A Porno,” has been cast as first lady Laura Bush in Oliver Stone’s new biography of George W. Bush.
Josh Brolin (“No Country For Old Men”) plays the title character.
Banks also played the iconic Betty Brant in all three "Spider-Man" movies, as well as memorable roles in "The 40-Year-Old Virgin," "Catch Me If You Can," "Seabiscuit" and "Slither."
Read all of The Hollywood Reporter’s story on the matter here.
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What the hell is going on?
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I would have mentioned that--it's a pretty successful show, and unlike a lot of the guest stars, she's actually been pretty memorable and distinctive.
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says it all
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Mar 26, 2008 1:10:38 AM CDT
Will the movie be a big failure like W has been?
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
Cast is good though. However Stone is hit or miss with his movies.
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Isn't it a bit early to be doing April Fools jokes? Will this film use the same level of piss poor "research" that went into JFK? I hate W, but at least get the facts straight, Ollie.
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Josh Brolin plays Bush??? Holy shit... I... I... I think I might want to see this! No wait! I hate Oliver Stone!!! (Ok with a few exceptions... sorta... nope. Hate him.) But... that's so interesting casting... I mean... FUCK! WHY!?!?!?!? Sigh. Looks like you might have reeled me into another one Stone. You fucker, you.
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Play's JD's baby momma. She's a cutie. This 'W' flick will be a train wreck. Oliver Stone's first accidental comedy.
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To show us that GWB is a cock? We already knew that.
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Should play the stupid spoiledwhore daughters.
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as Donald Rumsfeld!!
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I really can't get my head around this movie. Why? Who fucking cares? Will there be extended shots of Brolin/Bush clearing shrubbery? Dancing with Africans? Stone will immediately be vilified by the right wing media, and he will probably pussy out and not make the film critical enough to please the left wingers. So, I predict garbage, but with an unusually hot Laura Bush. Hopefully this exchange will take place: Laura: "Ooh, you know where to shave me."
Dubya: "Yeah! I wanna shave your head." -
as Carl Rove
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Cheney played by Danny DeVito while playing the Penguin.
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This casting literally makes the film sound like it's supposed to be a joke. Elizabeth Banks? She's young and attractive and looks and seems NOTHING like Laura Bush. I mean talk about shameless Hollywood casting. What the fuck kind of movie is Stone making here? Seriously it sounds like a David Lynch film or some sort of political comedy. Don't get me wrong, I think it's great that it's just understood the Bush presidency is enough of a laughing stock that we can freely make films about it while it's happening and no one bats an eye, but what the fuck is this movie supposed to be??!!
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I agree Chalmers. Especially if he's constantly drooling bile and bites off his hunting buddies nose.
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I'd like to see W fight the Riddler. That would be totally sweet. Or maybe The Green Goblin. Someone green for sure...
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There's a conspiracy to bring down Bush, concocted by the liberal media and the Riddler. Buuuuday.
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If that doesn't get kids to read then nothing will.
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As W's personal friend "God"
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just gain a couple and its locked
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I Drink Your Milkshake
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as Terry Schiavo. Okay, I'm done.
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friendo
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If Josh Brolin is playing W. then does that mean that James Brolin will play the senior Bush? I hope he makes this in the same style as the Doors and JFK, I want quick cuts to black and white footage of Bush doing coke off a horse's ass, then an American Indian chanting about evil spirits.
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I loves me some Banks but it seems... odd.
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He may not be the spitting image, but his voice is dead on.
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Is right on the money. I can't imagine for the life of me how this movie could possibly please anyone. If it were being made in say, 15-20 years, while we're all changing the subject when our kids ask us if we voted for him, maybe. But the man is still in office, for shit's sake. What the hell is going on?
And Oliver Stone, my god, it's a recipe for a disaster of biblical proportions. I'll probably go see it with the same type of curiosity I reserve for car accidents. Strange times. Strange fucking times. -
And how about Whoppi Goldberg for Condi Rice!? Elizabeth Banks is tasty for sure, but I dunno if she can pull of a weighty role. Maybe I'm wrong? Gonna have to age her ass a bit. HAH HAH! C'mon Vernon, let's burn one down!!!
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Mar 26, 2008 2:44:20 AM CDT
Jerry Stiller as George Soros and TommyLJones as Dan Rather
by darth_inedible
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He needs to give up on politics and make movies based on Nintendo games. If he can't get ahold of the rights for Super Dodge Ball, I wouldn't mind seeing his take on Kid Icarus. I'm sure it would be less gay than Alexander. And a Balloon Fight movie has potential too!
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I'm assuming the bulk of the movie is Alabama National Guard era Bush. They don't need to go into detail about his presidency - everyone's already kind of aware of it.But it is Stone so damned if I know.
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Like most people have said, who's gonna watch it? Didn't Dan Rather already ruin his career trying to push the whole fake National Guard story down America's collective throat?This'll be a hoot watching the film crash and burn. :)
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Mar 26, 2008 3:01:40 AM CDT
However, the casting suggestions in this talkback...
by theghostwholurks
Are downright HILARIOUS! :D
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...Timothy Bottoms as W, then there is simply no justice in this world.
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Damn you Michael Bay
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My head just fucking exploded. I actually had to check the calender on my computer to make sure it wasn't April 1st. Is this for real? I'm so confused...
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Daniel Day-Lewis as GWB. Either that, or the Cookie Monster.
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best impersonification ever.
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that did the puppetry on Jabba The Hutt in Return of the Jedi to play Dick Chaney
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that the film will be similar to "The Queen" which was great but I guess Stone wants to show the younger lives of the people.
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You heard it here first. Nolte for Rumsfeld, David Huddleston for Cheney, Lynda Carter as Laura Bush.
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...this movie is going to be surreal, like certain parts of "Natural Born Killers".
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and psychedelic colors, like in Alexander.
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that bush is so unpopular, people won't see this movie even if its a 4star effort from him?
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"W" stands for Whore.
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Oliver Stone hasn't made a good film in forever, and continuing his president schtick isn't going to fool anyone. We barely know half the shit that has gone on in the White House in the last eight years, so this will be an incomplete portrait best. If you want to relive past glories Stone, then give us a sequel to Natural Born Killers. Now that was a fucking movie.
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Canadian & Mexican Presidents? ;P
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He's not nearly stupid enough.
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Drunk Gary Busey as older Bush.
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Banks will have to be heavily medicated to play this role. I wish her luck.
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That'll be the most pivotal role in this movie, if Stone knows his W history.
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Brilliant!
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colin powell, john negroponte, scooter libby, paul wolfowitz and valerie plain??? I'm on the edge of my seat pretending to give a shit.
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Why is the cast young?
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... and constantly be jacked up on Valium and Prozac???
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Too much of the movie won't be accurate. We need to wait at least 6 more years after McCain is out of the white house. And hopefully the democrats will get there head out of there asses and make someone like Al Gore president rather then trying to convince old/white trash America that a crazy lady and a dude with probably the worst name possible that they should be president. Nothing against them, but I mean come on, winning an election is all about appeal. So we know McCain won't let any secrets out (like he did on O’Brian), we'll need the next president to go into office and be like: "OH what? WHAT is this? AHHHh way is this desk so sticky? What is going on over here? Damnit what the hell is that smell coming out of the VP's closest? Where did all these teeth come from? Why is there a vile of blood next to the rum? From Satan, To Dick? Sign a bill to allow the Army to just fire bullets 24/7? No I am not going to do that just because 'Well W. would do it and he was cool'! Why is there a direct line on my phone with the name Osama Bin Laden next to it? HOW many illegal immigrates do we really have chained up in the basement?"
Once we get someone in office who is going to clean up the mess, and air out the smell of death from the White House. Then we can have a realistic bio movie. While casting Elizabeth Banks could mean that this could be a comedy (i just don't see her doing drama that well (check The Heights if you nay say), but Josh the only good thing about No Country Brolin? WAY too straight, dour of and actor to play the Yakko of presidents. Seriously Lil'Bush is a dumb show but its fucking funny, just fucking make that animated Bush the lead role. It is the only way to properly portray Walter.
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Dick Cheney. Go fuck yourself.
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...the dude Laura Bush "accidentally" killed was her EX-BOYFRIEND.
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This guy is sooooo full of shit, I won't ever see another movie he makes (up.) You can't believe half of what is on the screen in his "true" movies. Fuck him. Him and that fat idiot Michael Moore can screw each other for all I care.
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To play Dick Cheney.... well thats if Michael Moore started to eat babies to gain their strength.
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I expect Stone will be on a CIA hitlist by now. I can't imagine the evil forces that run the world will want him digging up the truth about Iraq and 9/11. Give us the truth, Oliver!
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I guess if she is portraying the iconic slutty secretery. Her role in Fred Claus was bigger by at least 4 lines.
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LMAO at the casting for this movie. i guess johnny depp was too busy. why didnt you get hayden christensen? oh and courtney love as laura.
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Yack - Don't get me wrong, I like Charlie. Watching Wall Street today, it looks like it could've been made yesterday. Fantastic movie. I have it on my PMP and watch it 3x a week.
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final scene - bush opens a secret document which in detail explains his role as the shooter on the grassy knoll and clearly depicts to the viewer his deeper importance in the 40 year reign of republican dominancy
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it was his dad who was the shooter... google it.. you'll be glad you did
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Ju wong de oil, ju gotta pay meng.
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...since they both believe in a need for the US to surrender in the Middle East. Oh, please don't choke on your panties, liberal friends. I'm just responding to the ignorant HATE BUSH rhetoric out there that spews from the low IQed masses who bow their knees to liberalism.
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Wait until you hear the REAL story about the "lock box!!!"
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it doesnt get any lamer than that.
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They do hold the same sort of moral values, don't they?
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They both know how to STAND BY YOUR MAN (for personal gain). And neither is very honest either.
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Nancy Pelosi and Heide Fleiss hold the same moral values. What other nuggets of grand epiphany do you have in that bag?
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...that Republicans aren't funny.
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This way, Bill Clinton could also be the first ASIAN president too!
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I've read the latest draft of the screenplay. It takes place during their college years when Bush, son of a wealthy political family, first realizes that his carrousing youthful exploits must come to an end if he is to truly live out his destiny.
Then Klingons using the portal from City on the Edge of Forever, go back in time and kill him. This creates an alternate timeline wherein our government is now far more militaristic than it would have been (i know, right?) as we gear up for what is clearly a major intergalactic war about to drop on our footsteps. Simon Pegg will play Jeb Bush, and there's rumored to be a cameo from George Herber Walker Bush, but he swears he's never even met with Stone. I think its all a trick and he'll be in it at the end as a gift to the fans. -
...just offering a "nugget" that differs from the mindless unfunnies offered by our liberal TBers.
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...and Halle Berry is way too hot to play Condaleeza.
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...and Paul Giamatti as Karl Rove.
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Will Ferrell as Dubya!!
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America's other favorite black guy.
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She could play Bush too.
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Treason and sedition exists in this country, there are federal laws on the books against it, which you can look up. People need to start getting deported. It's that simple. If we can deport Elian Gonzales by force, we can certainly do that for people like Oliver Stone. Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War, FDR had traitors and spies shot and hung during WWII. It has been done, it needs to be done again. Hollywood is a nest of vipers that routinely supports the overthrow of this government and the destruction of the United States Military. Websites like AICN are accessories to high treason and sedition against the United States.
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When he was still fat.
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...nigga' pleeze.
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i just read all that stuff... and maybe thats what this movie will be about?
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I picture a group of people sitting down to play cranium or trivial pursuit, and when uss cygnus is asked a movie question, he responds: "Hollywood is a nest of vipers that routinely supports the overthrow of this government and the destruction of the United States Military!!!", then storms out of the room.
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There are known knowns, unknown knowns, unknowable unknowns, knowable knowns both known and unknown, unknowbable knowns that can be both known, or unknown, and perhaps unknowable, unknown knowns known only to unknown persons, what was your question?
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He's always promoting fascist agendas and calling it patriotism. If there's any executions for sedition, he should be the first one shot, since he's constantly promoting an anti-American agenda. Hi, Fuck-Face!
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He wouldn't be nearly this uptight. That's clearly the post of a socially-maladjusted reject.
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Obama, the son of a white woman from Kansas and a black man from Kenya, can call six U.S. presidents, including George W. Bush, his cousins. McCain is a sixth cousin of first lady Laura Bush.
Genealogist Christopher Child said that while the candidates often focus on pointing out differences between them, their ancestry shows they are more alike than they think.
"It shows that lots of different people can be related, people you wouldn't necessarily expect," Child said.
Obama has a prolific presidential lineage that features Democrats and Republicans. His distant cousins include President George W. Bush and his father, George H.W. Bush, Gerald Ford, Lyndon Johnson, Harry S. Truman and James Madison. Other Obama cousins include Vice President Dick Cheney, British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill and Civil War General Robert E. Lee.
Pitt and Obama are ninth cousins, linked by Edwin Hickman, who died in Virginia in 1769.
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Half the pleasure of living under the Obama administration will be knowing how many aneurysms he will be causing fucktards like you.
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Is USS Cygnus the name of the boat you serve(d) on? If so, you should have been keelhauled long ago.
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a big budget hollywood film, would work better as a small film focusing on the personal examination of the man, and the times. Asides from that, its simply too soon to make this film. History is not completed itself in respect to Bush.
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Al licked Bush in 2000 and eight times a month since then.
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Very well spoken fella.
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Oliver, you missed one. JFK, Nixon, W? forget Ford Carter Reagan and the real Bush, when's the Clinton movie coming out? Hardcore NC-17 showing the second shooter on the blue dress over and over again in slo-mo. Up, and to the left.
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In, and to the left.
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hasn't killed a few teenagers on our way out of a party? Teenagers, jeebus, they're like fetuses, their life hasn't even begun yet, just grind them beneath the wheels and reduce the population. Who doesn't hate the young?
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Yes, and he wants to snatch a kiss.
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Mission Accomplished! *Wipes eyes*
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He's too good-looking and nothing like W. I hope they don't use that jacked up make-up they put on Anthony Hopkins to make him still not look like Nixon. Timothy Bottoms on "That's My Bush!" was the best actor I've seen play him.
What is Stone going to do with this anyway? When I heard he was doing a movie about 9/11 I thought it was going to blow the lid off the whole thing and then it was just some movie. Incidentally though, if you rewatch JFK in the current atmosphere, it's kinda freaky. -
Mar 26, 2008 11:01:44 AM CDT
I wonder if there's going to be some good makeup effects
by reel american hero
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That's all I have - I came across that article just today on MSN's home page. I think if you Google that genealogist or "Obama lineage" you should be able to find out more details. I think we tend to forget that Obama is half-white, and not that it matters ... but, realistically, it does matter. I for one am judging him on his character and nothing else.
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meesa go inda big white lady!
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You know that scene in NIXON where Stone had Hopkins looking at that portrait of Kennedy ("When they look at you, they see what they want to be. When they look at me, they see what they are.")? This time, he'll have W looking at a portrait of Nixon and he'll say, "I really fucked up, didn't I?"Heh.
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of "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World" in which a bunch of aging or b-list comics go on a crazed race to find a treasure buried beneath a tree shaped like a big idiot.
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Mar 26, 2008 11:35:01 AM CDT
so if they're casting young, hopefully they don't flashforward
by ironic_name
just keep the coked up likkerd up drunk driving male cheerleader who went awol from THE RESERVES during wartime [considered treason, punishable by death] down syndrome having product of barbra bushs one night stand with a chimpanzee pretend Christian who ran a munitions company in the 70's with rummy, cheney and USAMA BIN LADEN as stock partners till he fucked up so bad they had to get him out to get back into black dweeb that he was.
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Mar 26, 2008 11:41:16 AM CDT
W2: How Hillary Clinton Clusterfucked the Democratic Party
by stuntcock mike
A true politician.
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Pick the dude who played the VP in The Day After Tomorrow. He's a Cheney clone.
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http://tinyurl.com/ywmu37
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Shia LeBeouf as W's toot supplier.
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Mar 26, 2008 11:47:38 AM CDT
I think the daughters get it a little too rough in the press
by drewlicious
From what I can tell they weren't that much different than regular teenagers for the most part. So they got caught underage drinking and the press and the police arrived. That doesn't justify being labeled alcoholic cum-dumpsters. Also, one of them seems to be pretty heavy in humanitarian work. Just because you hate the father, and there are many and some with good reason, there's no reason to go after the kids.
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Would be a pivotal and daring move in his acting career. Bold.
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He sure looks old enough in the Crystal Skull trailers.
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Supporters of Bush don't want to be subjected to two hours of Bush-bashing and opposers are just sick of having to live in the country under him and want nothing more than to forget about him. Plus a President is defined by his LEGACY, which doesn't become apparent until years after his term is up. Isn't there some conspiracies Stone can tackle, like why Michael Bay and Brett Ratner still get work?
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..the lactobacilla flora..you know..like in yogurt
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Fabio
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..the Filipina White House chef..this lady can cook
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..a bale of chronic..for my personal consumption
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Because James Brolin played Reagan in that TV miniseries that the right went nutso over. With Judy Davies as Nancy. Just seems like a nice symmetry.
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..C3P0..this administration could use a protocol 'droid
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Thegreatest things that America ever produced are negro music, jew comedy and anti-establishment, faggy intellectuals; all the rest could have been cooked up by Soviet Russia.
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It's a dumb idea for a movie and I sure won't pay to see it, but Oliver Stone and Josh Brolin will sell enough tix to make it profitable.
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http://tinyurl.com/3bconm
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Only Liberals hate Bush, you fucking cross-eyed lunatic?
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No fucking way, dude. It's still not too late to impeach the motherfucker and try him for war crimes. (Like that'll ever happen.) But forget about him? We gotta make sure this doesn't happen again, remembering him and the horrible decisions made during his presidency is the only way to do that.
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MUST FUCKING HAPPEN !!!!!!!!!
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"I had a guaranteed military sale with the Iraq War! Reconstruction program! Spare parts for 25 years! Who cares if it worked or not!"
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can't believe no one's said it.
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USS Cygnus and Chrism, you guys make me sad. You came into a talkback were no politics were being discussed and bitched and moaned about all of the liberal politics being thrown about. Saying that Dick Cheney is a fucking creep who reminds me of the Penguin from Batman Returns isn't a political statement, fucktards. Then you fuckers disappear, probably knowing that you came and dropped that ignorant shit just to make up for your incredibly small penises. You people are the reasons I hate Republicans. Not their politics, but their incessant need to whine and cry even when they are already getting their way.
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MUST FUCKING HAPPEN !!!
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He's a sociopath, for sure, but at least he's honest, and he seems to actually believe what he says.
ccchhhrrriiisssm, on the other hand, is stuck in a hamster wheel of political thinking, there are only Liberals (who stand for everything 'bad') and Conservatives (who naturally stand for everything 'good'). If I thought for a second that he actually believes this simplistic view, I'd pity him, and offer him a cookie, and gently ask him where his caregiver has gone off to, since he's obviously on the internet unsupervised. However, He's got at least a 6th grade education, judging by his vocabulary and spelling, so I assume he's intelligent enough to understand that such a simple, narrow view of politics (or indeed, any part of the human experience) is inaccurate, to say the least.
So, why promote such a demonstrably false premise? He thinks he's clever. He says this stuff to be divisive, to start shit, to be an agent provocateur, stirring up agitprop for the AICN masses. He's a toady, a flunky of the right wing, bootlicker, ass-kisser, stooge. Pay no mind to the little man with the incendiary words, he does not represent the conservative voice here, or anywhere else, for that matter. -
the resemblence it remarkable
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hasn't gone to a party and wound up sending 4000 American soldiers to their deaths pointlessly? Oh, just the one guy? Maybe someone ought to make a movie about him.
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Make sure she sings too. I love her singing.
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McCain played by Leslie Neilsen = great idea.
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Dig up Rodney Dangerfield to play George H.W. Bush
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Thank you. The last couple of times I saw McCain on C-Span wearing a charcoal grey suit and looking his age, a trifle slimmed down but still more bull-necked than neilsen, and totally white haired, i had to do a double take. the resemblence really is amazing.Seriously, the emphasis will have to be on who ever he choses as a running mate - a vote for McCain will be a vote for whoever inherits the office from him.Less seriously, McCain for prexy with John McClane as VP and McBain as Secretary of State. Give the people what they want.Gotham_Night: I'd like to see Casey Wilson, the "new girl" on SNL, as Monica. That blowjob I'd pay to watch.
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Cause nothing human looks like Al Gore
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...as Betty Brant was by far the most attractive woman in all three spider-man movies. She was followed by the weird Russian neighbor girl, then by Bryce Howard, then Toby McGuire, and lastly Kirstin Dunst.
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Yeah, a black democrat doesn't win the US presidency. Hilarious.
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He can still be keelhauled in outer space though, right?
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They sound the same!
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Also read your brief on Gotham_night being Skywalkerfamily. That's some high value intel right there. I was wondering where that guy went after you all reamed him bloody.
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sheesh.
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The "L" stands for Looseygoosey.
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He'd make a great Green Lantern too.
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is actually a great idea.
Unfortunately, Rove probably won't be featured in this movie. I doubt Stone has the mind for including a complicated player like Rove in his (inevitably) simpleminded movie. I'm sure that according to Stone, everything will be Bush's idea. -
She still gets a lot of crap from the media herself. Just the other day somebody decided to bring up her Dad's infidelity into a question. What kind of crap is that? The Clintons are obviously very protective of their daughter and I can't blame them. These people are nasty. Sometimes I wonder if this venom is from a conscious action. A while ago I visited the Huffington Post (the talkbackers under the articles make aintitcool's look like grandma's Sunday Bridge game)and for no reason that could possibly interest their readers they posted that one of the Bush daughters was getting married. This is barely news and is certainly not news to this site and the only reason I can surmise why this was there was for the talkbackers to spew their crap. I thought I accidentally clicked on to PerezHilton there for a moment.
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Samsquanch, surely you jest. Everybody (with exception of Cygnus and Chrism) knows about Rove and how he was fired from Bush Sr.'s Administration, who saw the value of Bush Jr., ingratiated himself to Dubya, became his mentor in the art of public speaking, hid themselves away for a time with Bush reemerging a new character, established valuable ties with right-wing Christian groups with the promise of supporting their aspirations for political control and wealth, engineered every dirty political campaign he was involved with to install Bush in the WH, for the sole purpose of selling that position of power to the biggest players around, namely the NeoCons, industrial military complex, oil industry, and K Street. I'd bet Rove will end up nearly being the central character in this thing.
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I saw that vid, Drewlicious. Apparently the guy who asked the question didn't do so out of malicious intent, and I'd take him at his word for it. Just a bad choice of question. But I think Chelsea turned out real fine.
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that the little guy from the Lynch movies would make a good Rove, but only if he used the weird backwards speak he used in Twin Peaks.
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She's a fruitcake. Totally nuts.
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That gum you like is going to come back in style!
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More in common with us, rather than USS Cygnus and chhhrriiisssmm? Judging from his past movies, Stone probably thinks Rove was Bush's sidekick, or something.
I can imagine a scene in Stone's "W"
Scene- aircraft carrier-platform
BUSH- (after landing an f-14 and disembarking to the tarmac) "Well, that was one tough bitch of a job, but praise Jesus, it's all over."
ROVE: "Boss! Boss! You're alive! Did you do it? Is it over? Did you ACCOMPLISH your MISSION?"
BUSH:" Well hello there, Turdblossom! (ruffles Rove's 12 remaining hairs) ACCOMPLISH my MISSION, huh? Well now, that there gives me an ideer."
Pan to hundreds of cheering sailors, and them upward camera sweep to the "Mission Accomplished" banner. Credits roll.
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Ruth Gordon as Hillary, Rosie ODonell as Monica, Andre the Giant as Janet Reno
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For various reasons ... among them:
This is Oliver Stone first and foremost, who was once fearless in pursuing ugly truths. Now that the game is nearly over for Dubya, it's time to examine the origins of this 8-year descent into madness. Some say we need some time to reflect on his legacy. Nope. Now is the time. We live in an age of instant information. We have enough to examine the consequences of Bush & Co's actions now. We're already reeling in many ways from them.
Josh Brolin. His mother-in-law is none other than Barbra Streisand, hero of the Left. Despite his talents, I think there was some ulterior motive for casting him.
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But...
Is a hollywood oscar vehicle really the best we can hope for, in terms of an appropriate context for examining the last 8 years and what went so wrong? I don't see movies as the first choice for a platform of social/cultural self examination, at least not at first. I think of movies as the side effect to real examination.
Also, It seems you think much more highly of Stone than I do, as a filmmaker. I consider him overbearing, obvious, and too dumb for his chosen subject matter. I thought Natural Born Killers was an obscene joke, Alexander was an overripe piece of shit, and the Doors was a tragic shame. I don't even like the band the Doors, and I still felt personally insulted by the movie. I think Stone is a hack of the highest order, so considering that he's the guy in the driver's seat on this one makes me cringe so hard I collapse in on myself and cease to exist.
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Who's going to take the bait?
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featuring pussy tits and ass
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And go Team Sayand (I have no idea what that means cuz I don't watch Lost, and your TB there totally baffles me).
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.who was not convincing (looks or otherwise) as MJ. The overated rat faced bitch.
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A movie, though far from the ideal medium for examining a subject, is still suitable because it reaches so many. It's a massively popular medium, and one that can be revisited time and again. I get your POV, though. I think we're entitled to a more stately and serious examination, but let's face facts. This country is in some serious denial, and that ain't gonna happen.
About Stone ... I'm more a fan of his earlier movies, though I never saw NBK. I don't know how you feel about JFK, but here's my take. It's one of my most admired movies. I've seen it (and Wall Street) more times than I can possibly count. It's one of those movies I can just have on and let it sink into my subconscious. It's a barrage of theories and confusing as hell. But it's intelligent, and it presents lots and lots of questions. And that, to me, is what Stone strives to do. To question everything. I think it's even more worthwhile to listen to his commentary track on that movie too, to get a feel for where he's coming from and what his values and goals are in his filmmaking.
I used the word "fearless" before. I think, maybe hope, he is still fearless at his core. I haven't been crazy about his late works, but JFK and Wall Street (especially the part with Martin Sheen) solidified my respect for Stone, and his attempts at holding a mirror or magnifying glass to our society.
Stone doesn't need to have the answers. But he does seek them out, and given that this is a movie about Bush's formative political years, I'm confident he will have the best resources to understand his subject. In this case, I'm hoping he enlists James Moore and Wayne Slater among his consultants. If that be the case, this movie will find me first on line to see it. -
To be completely honest, I haven't seen either of those films, so I defer. If you respect them that much, they're definitely worth a look.
I guess I'm just pissed that this movie is happening at all. Like I said earlier, it won't, it can't please anyone. Stone isn't going to portray what this presidency has really been about (to be fair, no one would be able to do that), partly because no one knows the real truth about most of what's gone on, the stuff we think we know is diluted with misinformation and half-truths, and besides, truth is stranger than fiction. I'm sure that even if Stone made his most 'fearless', controversial, 'speaking-truth-to-power' film ever, it still wouldn't hold a candle to the real shit. Hell, 45 years later and we still have no idea who killed Kennedy, or even the finer details of the Bay of Pigs and the Cuban Missile Crisis. Republicans will hate this movie for being too hard on the man, and Democrats will hate it for being too soft. Stone can't win with this one. -
Where's cchrriissm? It's always more fun when he's around.
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It just doesn't seem like the Stone responsible for Platoon, Wall Street, JFK, and hell, even Born on the 4th of July, is the Stone that is still active in film making. It seems like after Nixon, each film cuts a little less deep. And World Trade Center? It seemed like he was expecting to be rapped buy the conservative mouthpieces, so he made a movie so superficial that the director of the Bourne movies surpassed him in terms of important 9/11 film making. Maybe I'm wrong, but I see Stone making a conscious effort to avoid controversy, which won't keep the Hannitys and the O'Reillys off his ass and won't please the people looking for an honest, critical portrayal. I agree with you a bit, samsquanch, that what we actually know about this administration is suspect, but there are a lot more former administration members looking for their post employment book deals now then there was during the Kennedy years, so there seems to be more information. That is if you can trust what George Tenet has to say.
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Not sure if that's the right way to go. If you want to disagree with him on policy, that's fine. I'm a conservative (but sane about it) and God knows I've disagreed with him on a lot. We all know that Stone hates Bush. I hope he's not going to put Bush's past under a microscope and focus on every bad, stupid, or questionable thing he ever did. Many would argue that it would turn into a 4 hour epic. But seriously, anyone's life would look bad under that kind of scrutiny. Especially if the director has an agenda to try and portray the subject in the worst possible light. Same thing if you got a director that loved Bush (if you could find one). The film would have too much of a slant and wouldn't be accurate. Which is why I think you need to do a biopic like this years down the line. Let all the angst and hate for the man die down a little. It worked for Jimmy Carter.
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...PBS FRONTLINE: BUSH'S WAR instead. http://tinyurl.com/2f9fas
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He's still alive, I just checked. And making a mob movie. God bless his immortal soul.
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if only...
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"Come and get the WMDs, BROTHER!"
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How could over thirty years of Hollywood film possibly be wrong? Vote Magical Black Man™ in '08 and watch your worries melt away!
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I'm glad you took the time to pull out that ™ symbol from your character generator; for a second it made me think you were clever!
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Since you freely admit spending time on the Mama Mia! talkback.
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Even my gay friends use it to describe unsavory things. 'Fag' is the more offensive word. Although I get where that guy's coming from. Being gay and hearing the word gay in a negative light can't be easy. But you know, everyone is offended by something.
Abe Vigoda ages in reverse!! Abe Vigoda will outlive us all!!! Abe Vigoda laughs at Global Warming!!! -
signing into the White House 39 times and signing out 14 times. That is some fucking gay shit.
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Getting histrionic about the use of the word "gay" in a Mamma Mia talkback is quite hilarious since the movie, by being a movie about ABBA, is, by definition, gay in the most basic sense of the word, much like a movie obsessing about Judy Garland and her fans would be gay.
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...using the term gay in its secondary sense ("squirrels are so fucking gay") since it's a slippery semantic slope and a position hard to defend even if I do understand the difference. I think spelling it "ghey" does help, even if that spelling is, well, a bit gay.
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Mar 27, 2008 8:17:35 AM CDT
If this movie is anything other than "Doctor Strangelove"ish...
by phimseto
...it's going to be an absolute disaster. And even if it is, it's only going to be circle jerk cabaret for like-minded leftists.
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and makes my pee-pee go NRRRRRRTT!
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turns out the title's already been used.http://tinyurl.com/2bpx8h1. A (Tatsuya Mori, 1998) 2. A (Darren Almond, 2002) 3. B (Daniel Vázquez Salles, 1996) (short) 4. D (Nobuya Okabe, 1998) (mini) 5. 'E' (Bretislav Pojar, 1981) (short) 6. F (Janja Glogovac, 2000) 7. G (Staffan Hildebrand, 1983) 8. G. (Rolf Gibbs, 2000) (short) 9. G (Christopher Scott Cherot, 2002) 10. H (Darrell Wasyk, 1990) 11. H (Daniel Simpson, 1995) (short) 12. H (Jong-hyuk Lee, 2002) 13. I... (Stan Brakhage, 1995) (short) 14. i (Stuart Sperling, 1998) (short) 15. J (Fred Cavayé, 2000) (short) 16. K (Alexandre Arcady, 1997) 17. K (Shoja Azari, 2002) 18. K. (Frédérique Devaux, 2003) 19. L (Stasa Stanojevic, 1961) (short) 20. L (Georges Pauly, 2001) 21. M (Fritz Lang, 1931) 22. M (Joseph Losey, 1951) 23. M (Christoph Janetzko, 1986) (short) 24. O (Tim Blake Nelson, 2001) 25. O (Gabriel Grieco, 2002) (short) 26. P (Jan Keja, 1964) (short) 27. Q (Larry Cohen, 1982) 28. Q (Oliver Husain, 2002) (short) 29. Q (2002) (short) 30. S. (Guido Henderickx, 1998) 31. S (Espen Sørensen, 2001) (short) 32. S (Athanasios Karanikolas, 2002) (short) 33. U (Yuri A., 2003) (short) 34. U (Jolene Gallant/Adam Herbeson/Phillip MacGilivary/Nik Mills & Heather Young, 2003) 35. V (Kenneth Johnson, 1983) (TV) 36. V (Alexander Oey, 2000) (TV) 37. V (Don Schubert, 2003) (short) 38. W (Richard Quine, 1974) 39. W (Taru Mäkelä, 1983) 40. W (Luc Feit, 2003) (short) 41. X (Roger Corman, 1963) 42. X (C. Walsh, 1970) 43. X (Myeong-jung Ha, 1983) 44. X (Oddvar Einarson, 1986) 45. X (Rintaro, 1996) 46. X (Stefan Quercy, 2001) (short) 47. X (Luis Marías, 2002) 48. Y (Paola Panero, 1992) 49. Y (Zoe Margolis, 2000) (short) 50. Z (Costa-Gavras, 1969)
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Gay, which means festive, was picked up as a slang term to mean homosexual and then high-jacked by the ignorant children parodied on South Park to mean "lame", a word that once meant crippled but is now used to describe something that is hackneyed or uninspired.Face, it, using the words festive or homosexual to mean hackneyed or disabled is just illiterate.And, hockingite, getting your semantic ass kicked in a talk-back about a movie based on a Broadway show featuring music by a '70s disco vocal band and then slinking off to other talkbacks to complain about it is teh ghey. Totally.
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