March 25, 2008, 8:33 a.m. CST
keen to see it
March 25, 2008, 8:34 a.m. CST
not so much. But who knows?
March 25, 2008, 8:35 a.m. CST
Its okay. Its not SOTD or Hot Fuzz, but what is?
March 25, 2008, 8:37 a.m. CST
he he he.
March 25, 2008, 8:53 a.m. CST
or is it just that I am drunk?
March 25, 2008, 9 a.m. CST
Of course, I think anybody who writes scathing critiques of people who he probably has a lot more in common with than not--and then does it in tiny white type on a black background--is a dope. In fact, anybody who writes long screeds in tiny white type on a black background is kind of a dope.
March 25, 2008, 9:12 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
...is the pathetic comment left by former AICN Talkbacker, AnimalStructure. Same shit, different site. Pathetic.<P>Devin did make some very salient points though. A lot of which I happen to agree with...
March 25, 2008, 9:20 a.m. CST
possibly top 5. I specifically enjoyed the frank and honest dissertation on Fanboys, and helping make this non-cancer non-controversy a little clearer for people on the fringes of this drama. I have a spouse who is surviving cancer, and I can tell you that nothing unsells a movie or TV show or novel for me faster than a limp-wristed cavalier treatment of cancer. Its not something that you say "well gee thats too bad." and then move on. Its a devastating and emotionally debilitating condition that completely upends lives, and never lets them recover. Even if you survive and defeat cancer, its always hiding in the shadows threatening to return - you are never really 'cancer free' once you have it. You are simply 'surviving' it.<p> If this movie treats cancer with the same dramatic respect as influenza or chicken pox, then its clearly better off without it. For the life of me, I cannot understand why they would need DUELING dramatic McGuffins of cancer AND 'erosion of close friendships' when the reality is that if two friends were feuding and a third one was stricken with cancer, the other two would almost INSTANTLY set aside their petty bickering and realize that there are clearly bigger things to dread in life than a few moments of slighted insults. This, for me, destroys the film. After reading this, I dont think I'm interested in ANY cut of this movie.<p> There should be some sort of rule that if you're going to write fiction, that you cannot even MENTION the concept of cancer unless you yourself have suffered it, or a close loved one has suffered it - its not even possible to treat it with the proper amount of gravity and respect unless you know its pain personally.<p> Also, I want silly goof-ball movies like Fanboys to let me forget all the horrors that life wants to throw at me. I certainly dont want it to remind me of them. If I want that, I can just watch that stupid Angels Gots Aids miniseries again See what I did there? I dismissed a severe and deadly illness with a callous treatment because I personally have no sense of its devastating nature. See how ill equipped I am to write about aids? Same goes for cancer. If you dont have the chops for it, leave it alone.
March 25, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST
by Mr. Nice Gaius
March 25, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST
I thought this WAS 5-25-77... I'm not sure what the audience is. The mainstream won't go see a movie about a bunch of geeks going to see Star Wars and their adventures because, honestly, who really cares if they make it to see the movie. And to geeks...Traveling across the country to get your friend to go see Episode One before he dies is tragic whether he dies or not. Might as well have him drive to go see The Matrix or the Mummy, both are far better.
March 25, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST
That's a great tagline
March 25, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST
I had a copy of the script way back when (that was what, 9 years ago he made that available here?), but I never had a chance to read it ... I thought I saw a promo poster for it a little while back, maybe it's due soon?
March 25, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST
Some campaigns do get noticed, yes.
March 25, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST
You know, I honestly never thought about it that way. That is a helluva good point you made. No snarkiness here, man. Respect. And best wishes to your spouse.
March 25, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST
Wow. "If I had to pick, I would actually vote against the cancer." So... you'd vote against the story the original director, writer, and producers made? The one that fans gave three standing ovations to at Celebration Europe? The version 300,000 fans emailed Darth Weinstein defending?<br><br> You LIKE IT when a studio takes a movie away from the filmmakers and mutilates it? Think that's a great thing, do you, McWeeny? And you call yourself a screenwriter and an artist?<br><br> I guess that makes sense, since you've still never had one of your own feature scripts produced. And your MOH episode made it clear that, if you ever DO get a movie made, it will never receive three standing ovations FROM ANYONE. Jealous much? Destroy your already non-existent credibility as a critic to suck up to the Apatow camp much?<br><br> Now hurry up and delete this message, before one of the five people who still clicks on your posts sees it.
March 25, 2008, 12:03 p.m. CST
is that we've waited so long, and it's been debated about so much, that by the time I do get to see it, unless it's the greatest geek-film of all time, my reaction is going to be, "I waited all this time for THAT?". If it had just gotten a little AICN buzz and been released, I could have gone into it with mild curiousity and little expectation, and (hopefully) been pleasently suprised.
March 25, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST
is going to be the next Stiller.
March 25, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST
It wasn't a question of which was truer to the original filmakers' vision, just that in his opinion one version was actually better than the other. I know very little about the film, but it seems to connect with the 'fanboys' due to the subject material, not the cancer story, which is obviously not particularly prevalent given the ease with which it has been cut. Also the 300,000 e-mails means very little, I could send a thousand in a day from different addresses if I were so inclined.
March 25, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST
by they call it the dip
... that the cancer plot probably didn't make a difference, because it looked so lame either way. it's very rare that i can laugh at any star-wars-related humor. that family guy special, the robot chicken special, chad vader - it all feels so tired but everybody seems to toss their fruit loops over it. i don't get it.
March 25, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST
by they call it the dip
... that more and more people say "i WAS a star wars fan". i know i'm one of them. we're getting burned out. it's been more stretched-out, rotted, and over-exposed with mileage than shannon doherty's withered vajeen.
March 25, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST
by Rev. Slappy
I almost never read that site anymore. I just can't stomach the tone of it. It's so easy for people to sit around and bash the work of other people. It's so safe to sit on the sidelines and on the internet and never get in the game. And legitimate criticism can be made without it being a personal attack on certain the people or the work. I really enjoy reading Drew's stuff on AICN because he is thoughtful and presents his criticism without the need to get personal or mean or snarky. The actors and filmmakers CHUD hates will never get fair treatment. Wasn't Devin going to produce some giant shark movie with Jan DeBont directing? If that ever comes to pass I would be very, very fearful of what Karma is going to dish out.
March 25, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST
Setting aside this pathetic little poser's pretentiousness and arrogance, that article he wrote comparing Heath Ledger to Britney Spears was tacky, petty, and the musings of a man running for douchebag of the universe. Were I a friend or a family member of Ledger I'd track this fat fuck down and punch his stupid face into pulp for those comments alone. CHUD is the online equivalent of a hole-in-the-wall video store/comic book store where wannabes sit back and talk shit on everything. What's worse is that Devin's taste is shit; the man actually endorsed Spiderman 3 while trashing Batman Begins.
March 25, 2008, 2:27 p.m. CST
Plus it has Shatner, naked hot lesbo scenes and even more Shatner. A great fanboy lovefest that doesn't make us all out to be complete shitheads. See it bitches!!!
March 25, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST
by Rev. Slappy
March 25, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST
is 5-25-77? That one had a hell of a trailer. Even looked worthy of a theatrical release.
March 25, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST
Because Star wars is something held dearly to their heart. Then why did everyone shit on the Family Guy Star Wars? Seems like there was more tought and money put into that then Fanboys.
March 25, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST
She's turning into the Josh Beckett of movies; somebody you can count on to deliver the acting chops every godsdamned time. :)
March 25, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST
CHUD can be an interesting site from time to time but like you, I find their attitude to be a mixture of condescension and pretentiousness. They love to throw around big words and art-house, auteur lingo but they do it in such a way that suggests they are striving to sound brilliant rather than actually being in possession of insight and intellect. They love to ramble on in their reviews, often citing key classics as proof of their refinement, but mostly all of this rings like hollow self-aggrandizing. Even though I don’t always agree with the reviews on this site, none of the reviewers here, with the possible exception of that annoying English lady, have ever approached the smarmy, elitist tone of a CHUD article. If anything, Moriarty has become less arrogant and more introspective and humble, often suggesting to his readers that his critiques and views belong to him solely rather than stating them as being definitive. There is a fine line between being critical and coming off as a jealous, talentless little a-hole, and I think the writers at CHUD, specifically Devin, cross that line quite frequently.
March 25, 2008, 3:12 p.m. CST
Your comments about Fanboys are a breath of fresh, BS-free air. Now I actually want to see this movie and will do so with some perspective.
March 25, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST
Free Enterprise is awesome! Shatner's one man show of Julius Caesar..priceless...haha! As long as Fanboys had been limping along I kinda got the feeling that it would end up sucking ass.
March 25, 2008, 3:56 p.m. CST
...in that piece. I don't like CHUD very much and pretty much only read their DVD reviews, but I give credit where it's due. The fact that über-shithead and notorious fascist AnimalStructure got pissy about it proves his point. <p> As much as I loathe the run-of-the-mill fanboy, I love the insanity their presence in AICN talkback invariably coaxes forth. Much of the hilarious strife in talkback is due to the differences between nerds/geeks and fanboys as well as fanboy on fanboy clusterfucks. CHUD's equivalent of talkback is by turns Zone-like in its poo-pooing attitude and just plain sad - not to mention headache-inducing to read.
March 25, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST
suck my balls
March 25, 2008, 4:52 p.m. CST
the reason people dumped all over family guy SW is because it was mostly *awful*. sure, it LOOKED great, but the jokes were mostly eye-rollingly bad -- gee, just like family guy in general! as for fanboys, i like the basic premise of the story, cancer angle or not. he's right -- getting into skywalker ranch is a star wars fan's DREAM. my only hesitation about this story is that i'd be afraid to see the friend's reaction after actually seeing episode 1: he'd still have cancer, AND he'd have this enormous feeling of sadness because of the movie. i hope that part's not in it.
March 25, 2008, 7:31 p.m. CST
great article.And the fanboys bitch about it.....funny.
March 25, 2008, 9:30 p.m. CST
by Agent Blue
I should do research on the psychology of you folks on these message boards. I've never read so much defensiveness/hate spewing in my entire life, and I keep up with current events.
March 25, 2008, 9:55 p.m. CST
by Rev. Slappy
There is a good article about Hughes in the LA Times today. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/movies/la-et-goldstein25mar25,1,2103281.story
March 26, 2008, 12:16 a.m. CST
by Bass Bastardson
I hate you, you stupid dumbshiot motherfucker. Idiot. Why are you such a stupid piece-of-shit douchebag? I bet you even like Michael Bay and fucking Ewe Boll movies, you tasteless sack of nuthairs. You probably jerk off to episodes of Matlock while you take it in the ass from Paul WS Anderson... or something like that.
March 26, 2008, 12:22 a.m. CST
by Bass Bastardson
Don't speak for the producers. They can speak for themselves AND HAVE. They have a internet show on triggerstreet and they talked about it one episode. Although they initially objected to the idea, they are now very happy with the no-cancer version and have asked the fans to give the re-cut version a chance and see it before they judge it.
March 26, 2008, 12:40 a.m. CST
by Bass Bastardson
It was so boring, prdictable and un-funny I wanted to walk out of the theater pretty much the whole time. The only reason I didn't was that I saw it with a friend who had worked on it and I didn't want to be rude. One of the problems is that it is the exact same main characters from Superbad, just a couple years younger and PG13-ed into safe mediocrity. That's really not the worst part for me though. Owen Wilson was not able to magically fix the writing because the writing wasn't the biggest problem either - the casting was. To me, Owen Wilson was the last guy on earth who should have been cast in this role... well, okay after Gary Coleman or Warwick Davis I suppose. The part really called for someone who could be believable as a former Army Ranger living homeless on the streets. It would have been much funnier in contrast with the kids and his character arc might have actually meant something - or even existed in the first place. Anyway, I'm talking too much, so I will shut up now.
March 26, 2008, 12:49 a.m. CST
by Runs with a Gut
CHUND, I mean CHUD, is a toxic and dispiriting community -- a refuge for a geek cabal whose members often confuse wit with mordancy. <p> Based on a memo that's been making the rounds in LA, big-time producers and distributors are jack of the CHUD cult and are desperately trying to find a way to get it shut down. <p> According to the author of said memo, CHUD has long ceased to be a healthy hangout, even for the diseased folk who seek shelter there ... <p> If only the above were true.
March 26, 2008, 3:45 a.m. CST
I love your work, Mr. Pegg.
March 26, 2008, 6:29 a.m. CST
by Internet Thug
you didn't get your what i love today column out yesterday..your slipping like a fat man on a diet
March 26, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST
by Agent Blue
I don't see any other way you'd know all my secrects.
March 26, 2008, 11 a.m. CST
Well, there it is. The Very Thing I Was Worried About. It's been a week for TVTIWWA reporting on this site, for shizzle.
March 26, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST
It should be called "The 300,000," about how the makers of "Fanboys" bravely team up with Cancer Boy from Kids in the Hall to launch a withering e-mail campaign against the evil Darth Weinsteins, then break into George Lucas' home and force him to screen all 200 episodes of his latest secret Star Wars TV project "The Trade Federation Skirmishes," which takes place in the year before "The Phantom Menace." "Don't get your hopes up," Lucas warns them, but they just... won't... listen.
Feb. 11, 2010, 8:25 p.m. CST