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BrightEyes Exalts Tom Cruise In TROPIC THUNDER, And Likes The Rest Of It, Too!!
SPOILER ALERT !!
Merrick here...
BrightEyes sent this in after a screening of TROPIC THUNDER. I'm really looking forward to seeing this. The film recently received a vote of no confidence from my woman, which means it's probably quite good.
If the reviewer here is correct, I hope this rating remains a "hard R"...
Here's BrightEyes...
The movie starts out with maybe the best pre movie
studio logo footage ever. With GrindHouse we got
Machete to start us off, but in this film we get Ben
Stiller's characters movie trailer for Scorcher 6, a
ridiculous action film. We get Jack Blacks meet the
fats(or something like that) which pretty much mocks
eddie Murphy in his Nutty Professor roles, and best of
all there is Robert Downey Jr's trailer which features
Tobey Maguire. It's called "The Devil's Alley" and is
in the vain of Brokeback Mountain. There was also a
advertisement for a fake drink before the trailers
which was pretty funny as well and sets up a character
and joke for later in the film.
After all the fake trailers are finished we are thrown
into the film within the film. Now before seeing the
film I thought for sure it would be a PG-13 film what
with all the big name actors, but after the first
twenty seconds I was proven wrong. This film is
definitely a hard R rated film and thanks to this I
had a huge smile on my face for most of the film.
The concept is quite simple. A bunch of actors are
making a war movie and accidently really get thrown
into a war. I don't want to go into to much of the
story but will talk about aspects of the film. All the
actors shine in this film maybe with the exception of
Steve Coogan who played the director though it might
be cause his role wasn't funny in the first place.
The thing that surprised me the most about the film
was how outrageous the actors got, and I respect the
hell out of that.
Jack Black is at his absolute wildest. Black plays an
drug addicted actor who carrys Heroine with him in a
jelly beans bag everywhere he goes till a bird
snatches it thus creating the withdraw of his
character which starts off slow but ends more
outrageous then you'd expect from the guy since he's
been playing in a lot of PG-13 films that don't push
his comedic limit.
Robert Downey Jr is at his funniest. He plays an actor
so method that he dyes his skin black to play a black
man. Downey Jr stays in character for almost the whole
film and is the second best and funniest actor in this
movie.
Ben Stiller was very good, not great but it's not a
surprise considering just how funny everyone else was.
Jay Baruchel proves that he has the chops to be in the
big leagues with these guys and has the best line
delivery of the film.
Brandon T. Jackson was also good and reminded me a bit
of Chris Tucker but not as funny.
Matthew McConaughey was great and when he came on
screen all the women in the audience got excited. He
has not been this funny since Dazed and Confused,
though I couldn't help but to think of Owen Wilson who
was originally suppose to play the part, and think
about how funny he would have been in it. The role did
seem like it was written for Wilson but McConaughey
worked great.
Now for the best actor in the film. The man who steals
the film. Tom Cruise! Yes Tom Cruise was brilliant in
this, I won't go into detail because it will be an
awesome surprise but Tom Cruise played a role I never
in a million years thought he would ever play, and I
truly think after this film comes out he will redeem
himself to the public and from all the bad press he
has gotten lately, because I don't see how you could
not like the guy after seeing him really go for it in
this film.
All in all it was a good movie and a funny one. It is
always walking on a thin red line between comedy that
is more realistic and comedy that is huge and over the
top. I would give it a 4 out of 5. It isn't quite as
good as SuperBad or the Forty Year Old Virgin to me
but a lot better then Wedding Crashers or Knocked Up.
I do believe it is the best Ben Stiller/Jack Black
comedy in some time and highly recommend it this
August to anyone who likes to laugh (as cliche as that
sounds it's true.)
-BrightEyes
P.S. TEAM JACK!
studio logo footage ever. With GrindHouse we got
Machete to start us off, but in this film we get Ben
Stiller's characters movie trailer for Scorcher 6, a
ridiculous action film. We get Jack Blacks meet the
fats(or something like that) which pretty much mocks
eddie Murphy in his Nutty Professor roles, and best of
all there is Robert Downey Jr's trailer which features
Tobey Maguire. It's called "The Devil's Alley" and is
in the vain of Brokeback Mountain. There was also a
advertisement for a fake drink before the trailers
which was pretty funny as well and sets up a character
and joke for later in the film.
After all the fake trailers are finished we are thrown
into the film within the film. Now before seeing the
film I thought for sure it would be a PG-13 film what
with all the big name actors, but after the first
twenty seconds I was proven wrong. This film is
definitely a hard R rated film and thanks to this I
had a huge smile on my face for most of the film.
The concept is quite simple. A bunch of actors are
making a war movie and accidently really get thrown
into a war. I don't want to go into to much of the
story but will talk about aspects of the film. All the
actors shine in this film maybe with the exception of
Steve Coogan who played the director though it might
be cause his role wasn't funny in the first place.
The thing that surprised me the most about the film
was how outrageous the actors got, and I respect the
hell out of that.
Jack Black is at his absolute wildest. Black plays an
drug addicted actor who carrys Heroine with him in a
jelly beans bag everywhere he goes till a bird
snatches it thus creating the withdraw of his
character which starts off slow but ends more
outrageous then you'd expect from the guy since he's
been playing in a lot of PG-13 films that don't push
his comedic limit.
Robert Downey Jr is at his funniest. He plays an actor
so method that he dyes his skin black to play a black
man. Downey Jr stays in character for almost the whole
film and is the second best and funniest actor in this
movie.
Ben Stiller was very good, not great but it's not a
surprise considering just how funny everyone else was.
Jay Baruchel proves that he has the chops to be in the
big leagues with these guys and has the best line
delivery of the film.
Brandon T. Jackson was also good and reminded me a bit
of Chris Tucker but not as funny.
Matthew McConaughey was great and when he came on
screen all the women in the audience got excited. He
has not been this funny since Dazed and Confused,
though I couldn't help but to think of Owen Wilson who
was originally suppose to play the part, and think
about how funny he would have been in it. The role did
seem like it was written for Wilson but McConaughey
worked great.
Now for the best actor in the film. The man who steals
the film. Tom Cruise! Yes Tom Cruise was brilliant in
this, I won't go into detail because it will be an
awesome surprise but Tom Cruise played a role I never
in a million years thought he would ever play, and I
truly think after this film comes out he will redeem
himself to the public and from all the bad press he
has gotten lately, because I don't see how you could
not like the guy after seeing him really go for it in
this film.
All in all it was a good movie and a funny one. It is
always walking on a thin red line between comedy that
is more realistic and comedy that is huge and over the
top. I would give it a 4 out of 5. It isn't quite as
good as SuperBad or the Forty Year Old Virgin to me
but a lot better then Wedding Crashers or Knocked Up.
I do believe it is the best Ben Stiller/Jack Black
comedy in some time and highly recommend it this
August to anyone who likes to laugh (as cliche as that
sounds it's true.)
-BrightEyes
P.S. TEAM JACK!
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Wow.
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Hands down..can't Wait
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"It isn't quite as
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OR: How I learned to stop worrying and watch Jack Black eventually die of an overdose.
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Nice freaking spoiler in the headline folks.
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I have no idea how to respond to that. I don't think Chris Tucker is funny at all. So would this guy be negative funny?
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Man, I've always wanted to be the first to say that.Plant is the new first, ya know.I don't really think this is a plant unless it's Cruise's publicist trying to get her job back. Heh-heh. Looking forward to the film.
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Jeez.
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Seriously. We all know he can act and has pretty good comedic ability, but he's also an asshole. A huge gaping, twitching, un-digested-corn-kernel-shooting ASSHOLE. Fuck him. Fuck him times ten to the twenty third power.
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Just sayin, Brighteyes
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Yes, Tom Cruise can definitely bring the funny. His bit as Frank T.J. Mackey in Magnolia fucking killed.
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"...and all the women got excited." Sorry, just had to go there.
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This is so obviously a big old coniferous plant. Seriously...
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They're not your friends. Do you really think she'll be there when things go bad? Huh? When things go wrong? You think again. Fucking Denise. Denise the piece. Oh, you're gonna give me that cherry pie sweet mama baby.
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Hope this idiot gets run over tonight.
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Just so you guys know before you get carried away with this "PLANT!" business.
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The amount of reviews already on the site would lead me to believe it's coming out in like a few weeks but I've heard nothing else about it.
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Like he's a Scientology plant ("You're a plant? I thought they called me like you fruits")
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d'oh!
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Does Tom Cruise star in the fake Brokeback Mountain trailer at the beginning? It was the role he was born to play. "Come out of the closet, Tom. Just come out. You're not fooling anyone!"
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I heard that they had shot footage of him before he had to drop out of the production and that it would be used as a cameo. I haven't seen any mention of this in the sneak preview reviews. Anyone know if he actually made it into the movie?
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Just one
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Or something like that...I actually will see this...just wanted to call someone a name.
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(at least any that I haven't seen already).
Looks like Drillbit Taylor sucks. March has been a weak month for film. -
pllllllllllllllllllllllllllllaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnttttttttttttt
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Awesome fucking actor.
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Cruise has delivered on occasions when he's not doing the same pretty boy hero shtick like in Top Gun or the Mission Impossible movies. Especially in stuff like Born on the Forth of July Interview with the Vampire, and my personal favorite Collateral. -
Next thing you know they'll be saying Scientology is a great thing.
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Mar 21, 2008 11:24:32 AM CDT
The trailer didn't work for me. This review does.
by the gospel according to bastardface
Now I am looking forward to it again.
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...PLANTS!
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... the more you hate him, the more you are a loser.
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1. Tom Cruise believes he and his fellow Scientologists are "the authorities of the mind." 2. As a member of the church of scientology Tom thinks it's his mission "to educate and create the new reality". 3. He believes that only scientologists can help people who have been hurt in car accidents. 4. Attacking Brooke Shields for taking anti-depressants. 5. He's a member of the Church of Scientology, a freak organisation (or religion) created by a hack sci-fi writer. Just some of the reasons Tom Cruise is an asshole.
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Please see above.
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Mar 21, 2008 12:05:24 PM CDT
Shit Im anxious to see this now,thanks a lot fuckin Merrick!
by donwillymo
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I thought that the trailer looked great. Nolte was a highlight and the shot of the heuy crashing behind Stiller as he Forrest Gumps it across the paddy field was pretty fucking good. (Stiller having the chops to direct an action shot? Who'd have thought it). But Downey jr is why this film will kick ass and hopefully give him the kind of reconition he is deserved.
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i know he's a bugnut, scientology and all... but why bother hating him? all i know if the movie he's in is good i'll watch it, i don't care about his personal life
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I call bullshit.
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Tom Cruise plays Xenu.
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You know, I can't understand the hate for Cruise either. The guy has been one of, if not the most, consistent and entertaining icons we've had for over 20+ years now and made dozens of entertaining films.
Not defending scientology, but it seems that his gushing over it has more to do with being on the defensive and responding to questions than offering it. Would the media do this to Seinfeld, Hanks, or just about anyone else? Whatever your opinion of his faith, Cruise is certainly entitled to his beliefs no matter how nutty they might seem.
Not that I would come to AICN for nuanced, balanced and substantive thought, but I think it's probably better to judge the guy on his professional merits (i.e. films) than taking apart media snippets and using them as 'reason' to hate the guy. If you think he's an asshole, that's fine. Jerk? That's fine. You think he's gay? I think I'd like to know why you even care about that (hiding something yourselves?). But one thing remains positive: he was fucking awesome in Magnolia and you better believe he makes 'em respect the cock!
Oh, pretty damn good in Collateral, too! He needs more roles like that. Just my thoughts, think what you will.
Rock Band, Yeah!
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...is an actor. Who gives a shit if he prays to Xenu, Jesus, or Goldilocks and the three bears? I like his movies and think that the flak he gets is pretty unwarranted.
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This just toped my list as most anticipated comedies of the year. I am just glad to see a funny movie coming out without fucking I don't need an interesting premise for a movie anymore Apatow's name on it.
Plus whoever says anything bad about Thomas Cruise, fuck you the man brought us Top Gun. He is what he is, who cares. Like the best description I've ever read about Thomas was in the book The Game. Yeah he's cocky and over the top about life right now, but so would you. Also Downey is the man right now, a little drug abuse and recoverey can be good for some actors. Shit I bet after Iron Giant and this if they Re-Released Kissy Kissy Bany bang, it would possibly be a hit. No one I know has seen it still, its great if you haven't. But I see it plays on the pay channels like HBO and shit all the time. Eh too bad because America is dumb they totally could've released it again and gotten some much deserved money back. I am gonna go home and watch it now... after i get me in some good abortion debate in Lake of Fire. -
But why is Steve Coogan sniffing around for scraps in Hollywood instead of making stuff over in Britain where people give a shit who he is. Just because Gervais can make it 'big' doesnt mean you can, now get back here and make that Alan Partridge taliban movie, Saxondale or something. The upcoming tour is a good start Steve.
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I know he gets a lot of flack for his beliefs, but here is a guy who started with the humblest of beginings and through his sheer will has comandeered an almost 30 year acting career. And has worked with Scorsese, Spielburg, Stone, Scott, Mann, Levinson, Pollack, Anderson..and so on..and has learned from the best in terms of direction and co-stars. I think his ego is his worst enemy, which raises the ire in people, and the main difference between himself and say Tom Hanks.
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I am not too heartbroken if I hear some actor is a twitwad (ala Cruise), as long as their movies are good do I really give a rip? Actors to me, aren't exactly that high on the role model list in my book anyway. Its unfortunate that they are positioned that way, kind of like athletes.
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I concur with some of you defending Tom Cruise. He has become one of my favorite actors. And truth be told, he is this worlds only MOVIE STAR right now. His last five movies (and before that) have been #1 movies. Tom Hanks can't say that.
I don't follow scientology (and I could care less about TC being involved. It's the way everyone tears it down publicly. If the public talked that way about any other religion (jewish, muslim, Christian, etc) there would be an PC outrage.
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More of a summary.
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an asshole, like his parody of himself on Extras. Or Dodgeball. Even the Evil Attendent in Happy Gilmore. Other than that its the befuddled everyman who's helpless/clueless in whatever given situation....boring.
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Victim of the writers strike??
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right harry?
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PLANT!!!!!
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Keep them away from Tom!
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I'm on the top page of ain it cool news and your still hated by all lost talkback
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Stay on topic for once in your dumb ass life. Don't you have some basketball shit to talk about?
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I predict another bomb for Stiller.
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Is better than 40-Year-Old Virgin and Superbad. Haven't seen Knocked Up, so I can't really say anything there. But yeah. This flick looks like a lot of fun.
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rumored for months. There are even pics of him in make-up.
I like the look of this, with a lot of nice cameos. And what was that shot of Stiller with the baby seals strapped to his body? -
Lost is my topic Chief, Hence me ending it with a big o' Team Jack! I almost feel bad for tearing you apart in the lost talkbacks all the time Sky, maybe I should just stop.
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was no where in the cut they showed.
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I really don't care.
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The only thing, it sounds like the seasonal summer flavor of Mountain Dew.
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so he can be recruited to Scientology. Dont do it Ben, you'll ruin your career...
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and I have never seen a "come to Scientology" message in his movies,so who cares if he believes in aliens and silent birth?He makes good movies,thats all that counts.
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Those reasons sound very familiar, sounds almost like...uhhhh......oh yeah every other freakin religion. Because he has faith in something you dont agree with, that makes him an asshole?? Maybe he isnt the asshole......
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Cruise is lame.
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Like they love Oprah.
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The best is for Iron Man! I plan to see both of them many times!
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but dear God Mission Impossible III was an abortion. I'll wait a few years before buying another ticket for a movie where he does more than a glorified cameo. Which means I'll see that because it's Stiller return behind the camera, and because the trailer is funny as hell. Kudos for Downey's line about the "dude playing a dude" (much funnier than any off the mark cynicism as Stark) and Black for his obnoxious Eddie Murphy impersonation.
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sad story. Defending a cult and being a freak has pretty much ruined any movie he is in for me. I simply cannot watch him without thinking of what a turd he is in real life. His interview with Matt Lauer, etc, he just doesn't draw me into a movie or characters anymore and his 'charm' looks like the devil to me anymore.
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That would make the most sense - and be a reference to that old MTV Movie awards bit where Stiller played Cruise's.
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It has gotten hard to watch a movie he's in and forget that when the camera is off he's a crazy douche bag.
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Tom Cruise plays the biggest A-hole Ever in this and dances to pimp juice with bill hader following , on the test cards when it ask what could make the movie better I wrote in: more tom cruise dancing, sorry if they actually listen and you hate cruise.
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if the goddamn title of the post is a spoiler! come on, AICN, what are you doing? you're better than this...
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You hypocrit, a few weeks ago in a TB you were pushing all the jesus shit like it was free cocain. Now you have the balls to fuck with some others dudes fairy tail? you jesus cocksucker. On sunday knob job you're celebrating the first zombie in fiction, his name jesus you butt wipe hypocrit fuck job. Hey asshat lets pretend were're in the Phillipenes and recreate the station of the cross with you nailed to some two by fours like your boyfriend Hay-Sus. You're a used tampon. Fuck off.
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Good for you, Glovey.
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and his devotion to Scientology just as I do anyone who places faith and dollars in any organized religious franchise. Frankly I'd rather join a cult whose initiation involves intercourse with a hot priestess, because if you're gonna give up your soul to some charade, it might as well be worth the while.
Unless Cruise is inviting boys to sleep in his bed, I'd watch anything he puts out that's good. And the guy makes some fucking good movies. He might not be DDL, but in every role you know he's giving it his best, which is a lot more than you can say for many entertainers. -
Come on, tell me what you really think. Please? Stop holding back, ok?There's nothing hypocritic about my statement - I never claimed to be accepting of his cult. Do some research on Hubbard and you'll feel sorry for Tom too.If you bothered to finish reading my post before posting your hate filled diatribe, you'd note that my problem with watching his movies anymore is that his public persona prevents me from seeing the character he's playing anymore. He's done too many interviews where he has an air of superiority about him (Matt Lauer interview, his reaction to the poorly recieved water microphone, etc) that I see more of that Tom Cruise smugness rather than seeing whatever character he's playing.I'm sad about Jason Lee being deceived as well but he hasn't been an ass to interviewers, doesn't act superior to people that don't agree with him and therefore I can still fully enjoy his movies and see him as different characters. There are others like Jenna Elfman, heck even John Travolta that I can still enjoy, but no, Tom won't be persuading much out of my wallet anymore. I hope that's ok with you, I'm sure he'll still make a lot of money to keep his child bride happy and make other people that aren't nearly as narrow-minded as me, very happilly entertained.Relax and I'll get you a chocolate pretzel...
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Looking back I noticed that in my post that Tom was in a cult. Nothing more. Then you insult my faith specifically with names and quite insulting descriptions five times, and call me a foul name four times. As hilarious as it is hypocritical to accuse me of insulting Tom's cult with that much senseless filth insulting mine, the funniest part is you get my attention in order to tell me to **** off.Truly your post was a joke and you are the punchline.
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...here's my correction:Looking back, I noticed that in my post, I stated that Tom was in a cult.
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Shouting in a high-pitched voice whilst his arms and legs shoot out in an uncoordinated fashion
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Sorry.
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Mar 22, 2008 8:11:18 AM CDT
Yeah, leave poor Cruise alone man, he's just like you and me
by alucardvsdracula
Only with more money than God, a festering ego which some time ago turned J U S T A L I T T L E B I T F U C K I N G N U T S, thinks he's the second coming, will not hesitate to put ethics into your ass, can cure all the sickness in the world, cure all the drug addiction, cure all depression, is the only one who can help in an accident; whether that's a troublesome shit in your pants or car wreck, turn water to vinegar, turn black to white. AND IS NO LONGER INSANE OR WEIRD IN ANYWAY WHATSOEVER. Go laugh at Tom, go buy Tom's smile, go be like Tom. Come on you know you want to. After all he's bigger than Jesus, wealthier than anyone you will ever meet, has an amazing collection of medallions which he won't hesitate to wear in front of his flock of the spiritualy enlightend in a public toilet. But whatever you do, just don't call him a closet queer. Oh and by the way he made that "funny" scientology video for a laugh and didn't really mean any of it. So there.
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Mar 22, 2008 8:18:45 AM CDT
Who cares about his ethics, so long as he makes good movies
by alucardvsdracula
Just like Jacko, who cares if he anally abuses little boys, so long as he makes great music. It doesn't matter who you REALLY are in the REAL world, so long as your fakery on the screen is REAL. So there.
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like someone said above... what's an actor/celebrity's way of life gotta do with anything? the only 'real' connection you guys have to an actor is with his movies. who gives a shit about his personal life. so hate cruise based on his films, if you must. you judge him for any other reason but that, then you're no better than tabloid reader stay-at-home mom. stick to e! channel and stay off theaters.
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And in no way a moron. Judge not lest ye be judged. You've been warned.
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riiight... he anally abused little boys. you know this how? because almost everyone in the world think so? everyone who likes to follow celebrity gossips anyway. the fact is no one in the "real world" will know the truth, anything else will be just speculation.
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you guys think scientology is funny? go back to reading your bible. it's just as retarded. it's mind blowing to me that in this day and age, people still flock to religions to look for answers. they're outmoded, outdated, and definitely NOT the answer. they were MEANT to offer paths to the truth, and conceived as such. but it's been proven again and again that all it does to humanity is divide. throughout history, it has caused more harm than good.
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i used to believe in the bible myself. baptized even. then one day i realized how idiotic it all was.
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Because all the rotten things Tom is accused of being is embodied by the likes of Robertson and other so-called religious leaders and to far worse effect.
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because the have so many members!NOT!I live in Germany and Scientology wants to be "Big" here and they are trying to get members with "big" names like Cruise or Travolta.Oh boy,did they fail!In Germany we have around 85.000.000 Million people and Scientology has around 5000-7000 members!Wow!They must have some crazy Alien technology working for them to gather so many members in over 15 years!Dangerous indeed!I bet the Scientology bosses cry every time a new Cruise movie brings in hordes of people and not a single one out of 200.000 people says:"Damn,that movie was so good,I will join Scientology!"FUCK Scientology!Cruise makes good movies,he's not killing or raping children and if he believes,he can save somebody better out of a crashed car then me....Hey do it Tom!As long as you make a good movie out of it,go ahead!
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Mar 22, 2008 9:10:24 AM CDT
TOM'S NEVER CALLED FOR ASSASSINATION OF A DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED
by bringingsexyback
But Dear Pat has.
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Edited
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Mar 22, 2008 9:12:07 AM CDT
TOM WASN'T BUSINESS PARTNERS WITH AN AFRICAN DICTATOR
by bringingsexyback
But Pat was.
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Help me out here.
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This is Pat:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson
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Liquid smooth and inspirational words of wisdom. You're a voice of understanding and reason in a world of cynicism and malice. I for one aplaud your words and take comfort in them. Praise Xenu. I'd also like to ride you like a mule and call you Shirley. Bitch.
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thats some crazy fucker.
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no no you're too kind. yours is the voice of wisdom. halleluya! you cant ride me since you're too short, but please ride my mule and call it shirley all night long if you like.
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when i said the bible is retarded, i meant the last testament. the new testament i have no problem with.
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Not only is he a great actor, but he's worked with some of the most influential directors of our time: Kubrick, Scorsese, Mann, Stone, De Palma, Spielberg, Anderson, Scott...No other actor has done that, and it's sure as hell something to be proud of. Tom Cruise had his craziness, but nothing recently has happened to continue the enslaught (like some other celebrities), so I'm glad he's getting a reputation back. I think fake trailers for each actor before this movie is a fantastic idea.
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"Judge not lest you be judged. Consider yourself warned." ...... For one thing you appear pretty judgemental. For another, that's the sort of statement a fanatic zealot would make. You know, like spiritual blackmail. I'm sorry you have to live life with fear of eternal damnation, but not all of us subscribe to such superstitions.
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He did pay off his victims hush money and revealed his pedo tendencies on camera during his interviews with the BBC guy. Also want to point out those kids' parents are just as guilty of pimping them to him. Tom by all accounts is a good and decent father, in contrast.
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Mar 22, 2008 11:50:41 AM CDT
All I want for Easter is a shout out from Tom Cruise!!
by thebearovingian
Or Ben Stiller. Or from RDJ. Or Jack Black. No Easter eggs, no chocolate bunnies, no marshmallow chicks, no fake grass, no baskets!
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I believe reading a few articles about how the German government, recognizing it for the cult that it is and took a stand against Scientology and did not allow it to have status as a religeon. I suspect that is an important factor in why there are so few E-meters sold in Germany.
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FACT.
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CRUISE BELIEVES IN FAIRY TALES OF ALIENS FLYING AROUND THE UNIVERSE IN 727 AND YOU BELIEVE IN FAIRY TAILS OF A MOTHERFUCKING ZOMBIE COMING BACK FROM THE DEAD. YOU, DUMBASS, ARE IN A CULT ALSO BUT BECAUSE YOUR FAGGOT ASS CULT HAS BEEN AROUND LONGER YOU THINK IT MEANS SOMETHING YOU BLOOD DRINKING CRACKER EATING DUMBFUCK. CHRISTIANTY IS AS FUCKING STUPID AS ANY OTHER FAIRY TALE BULLSHIT THAT SCARED LITTLE PEOPLE HAVE TO HIDE BEHIND. OOOHHH SOME DIAPER WEARING OLD MAN IN THE SKY HAS TO BE PLACATED OR HE WILL SEND ME TO THE HOT PLACE. OOOHHHHH DADDY LOVE ME I PROMISE TO BE GOOD DON'T SMITE ME DADDY. I'LL BE GOOD. YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE GO DIE I HOPE A RABID BADGER RIP OFF YOUR SCROTE BAG AND EATS YOUR DICK DUMB FUCKING CUNT. CHRISTIANITY AND SCIENTOLOGY IS THE FUCKIN SAME BULLSHIT A PLACE FOR SMALL MINDED SCARED LOSERS WHO CAN'T FACE THE WORLD WITHOUT A FUCKING CRUTCH OF FAGGOTY "RELGION" GO FUCK YOURSELF HYPOCRIT. JUSUS WAS A HOMO THAT'S WHY HE TRAVELED AROUND WITH A CREW OF FRUITS. THEY ASSFUCKED EACH OTHER IN BIG ORGIES. oh HAYYYYYSUS, PASS THE ASTRO GLIDE LOVER, I'VE GOT LOAF FOR YOU HANDSOME. FUCK OFF AND DIE DOUCHEBAG.
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An actor in supposedly unrecognizable bald fatso outfit? How original. Its so 90s. Apparently Tom Cruise's publicists apparently posts here as well? I am simply so tired of this idiot. Next.
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...might have issues with Christianity and/or religeon?I suspect he may have issues in general.suit, why all the hate?
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I HATE YOU FOR COMING INTO A TB PUSHING BS COMIC BOOK STORIES OF ZOMBIES THAT WALK ON WATER AND THEN COME INTO THIS TB CLAIMING SOME OTHER LOSERS BULLSHIT IS FAKE. YOU ARE A CUNT, A FAGGOT AND JESUS LOVES COCK FUCK OFF AND DIE YOU DUMB ASS. RELGION IS FOR ROBOTS THAT CAN'T THINK FOR THEMSELVES AND YOU SWEETCAKES ARE WHY THE WORLD SUCKS. EVERY LOSER RUNNING AROUND KILLING PEOPLE IN THE NAME OF THEIR "GOD". AT LEAST THE LOSER SCIENTOGLOGIST HAVE NOT BLOWN UP BUILDS COMMITED WITCH HUNTS BEHAEDED PEOPLE STARTED CRUSADES HAD AN INQUISTION AND ALL THE OTHER ATTENDANT NONSENSE THAT GOES ALONG WITH FUCKTARDS WHO BELIEVE IN RELGION. SO TAKE CHRISTS COCK OUT OF YOUR ASS FAGGOT.
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Hate the preist that touched you, not me.
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i always wonder how no one ever came forward about the weird behavior of someone who ended up going on a school/mall killing spree. then i see comments from people like "suit and tie" - there's at least one of them on every comments section be it here, youtube, etc. if we turned in all their IP addresses, the crime lab would probably blow up from the overflow. it's funny/scary when they come into a TB section, but pretty damn scary when they join forces for their own message board. anyway, TROPIC THUNDER WILL ROCK FROM THIS PLANET ALL THE WAY TO JESUS IN HEAVEN AND XENU IN THE OUTER COSMOS.
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an army of internet psycho's start a web site and join forces - bent on destroying organized religion to get back at dad for missing one of their yu-gi-oh tournaments. throw in kirk cameron, and id be there.
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But over there he's directing all his vitriol at skywalkerfamily. Really an unstable-sounding guy. Needs medication.
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how can they think they're filming a movie? They don't realize there aren't cameras filming them? This movie sounds too complicated, and hard to understand. I'll pass. When does the next Adam Sandler movie come out?
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They don't deserve to be tax exempt when they are run like a business and when they constantly commit human rights violations against their Sea Org members who are too afraid to come forward about them. youfoundthecard.com march15.org exscientologykids.com
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true he typed in all caps. but delete all the profanity and he did make a valid point. just because your religion is older and validated by history, doesn't make it any less sillier. believing in jesus as the son of god is just as silly as in believing in xenu. doesn't the catholic church cover up their pedo priests? and dont even go to human rights violation throughout history in the name of the one true god.
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Why no shout out? What the hell?! Damn you, Thomas Mapother Cruise!
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Other wise, fuck anything connected to Ben Stiller. Someone please stop letting him in movies, hes NOT FUNNY.
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who played Bust-ass in all the real girls is also a scene stealer, I forgot to mention him but he was amazing and had some great moments, I didn't actually enjoy Nick Nolte in this movie, I kept thinking of him doing a war movie like the thin red line and then doing an outrageous war comedy like this and that was funny to me but I'm sure people will love him in this just not me.
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So after he did so you told him it was a 'religeous experience' and he has had nothing but hate for religeon ever since?
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cult, keg party or whatever the hell it is.
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Eff the haters
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sucks-six-cocks-at-a-time... Tom's cult is not a religion. It is a cult... sort of. Scientology is what happens when scam artists catch on to the "success" of cultists. Low and behold... wealthy, spiritually empty jackpots can be found and in the entertainment industry spread throughout California. Anyone who tries to draw any sort of moral relativism between religion and a scam/cult needs to be completely ignored. Those assholes are either too dumb, liberal (I know it's repetitive), or brainwashed to know which way is up. CRUISE IS CREEPY.
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who tries to argue that the C-list sci-fi writer deserves the same respect as Jesus, Abraham, Mohamed, Buddha, ect... deserves a swift kick in the balls. Or a double-tap of .45 hydroshocks. There is no excusing tools of that level.
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I just came so hard reading suit & tie's posts. :)
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He's just ridiculous.
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but your 'review' was unreadable.
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there's nothing laughable about Tom's favorite past-time: promoting a highly-profitable-cult. A lot of people have died due to his "religion."
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to further his or her career. Young actors like Jason Lee don't become Scientologists because they wake up one day, spiritually enlightened, and realize that we're all space ghosts being chased through the cosmos by an evil alien overlord, they join because they want the structure and support of a fully realized professional network. Sure, becoming a Scientologist closes some doors, (and must make it harder to get laid, just a theory) but it opens others. Not defending it by any means, I think they're all nuts, but it explains why so many folks in hollywood sign up. That, and it appeals to the common celebrity profile of spiritually empty/bloated ego/lack-of-identity seeking meaning in a milieu devoid of any. The really strange thing about Scientologists are the ones like Cruise and Travolta who seem to actually believe the shit.
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who died?
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that's all by design
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of people who joined the "church," emptied their bank accounts to the the "church," then died in obviously non-suicide manners (all the while being denied access to families or friends but allowed the 'Church' access to their money). Honestly, how do you not know about the people Scientology murdered? There are so many cases of schizophrenics (with deep pockets, obviously) who later freaked out and committed suicide or murder, or Scientology-funded drug programs aimed at the wealthy addicts (you know, the people with tens of thousands of dollars to blow on shit a year), or etc, etc. Where is your head?
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real religions make their theology and aims plain and simple, available to anyone who asks. And, all real religions offer their services for free and solely rely on voluntary donations. How does Scientology compare to any of those?
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its okay you already know my thoughts on you as written in the Lostback. Team Jack!
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my double-tap statement was out of line and, more importantly, completely ridiculous. I totally withdraw it: it was nasty and trashy. But everything I said about Tom's cult stands.
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I like how people think religion is the source of evil in the world. If we didn't have religion, there would still be just as many people killing themselves wantonly for some "cause". There would still be sickos abusing children. Believe it or not, there are some people who actually subscribe to the core tenets of their faith: love, joy, peace, patience kindness, gentleness, faithfulness, and self control. These and other virtues aren't limited to one religion or even one secular moral code. We all fall short of these ideals, but you don't have to look far to find people with authentic faith and with authentic integrity. Faith without works is dead. That's true. But what you guys conviently ignore is the millions of people who quietly go about their faith and making the world a better place. These people don't make headlines. But followers of all religions, all faiths, have done some monumentally great things just like secularists have. It is simply part of our humanity. And yes, I agree that if you berate a religion on the grounds of it being "silly", and you yourself belong to another faith, then you are being hypocritical. All faiths are "silly" from a purely scientific/historical/rational level. But religion is also beautiful. Who cares if Noah's Ark or the story of Buddha are actually true? They are beautiful stories. Their main purpose is not to accurately capture a historical event, but to teach us something. Just like Aesop's fables or the Greek myths or some of the great films we talk about on this site. Myths, fairy tales, fables, etc. may not be literally true, but they capture a truth in the world and in our humanity that is as powerful and beautiful and useful as any great scientific discovery. Underneath all these stories there is a foundation of truth. I haven't read Xenu's story, but perhaps it's the case with that one too. It's when religion becomes divisive, when it becomes fanatical and legalistic, when it becomes hateful, only then does it become dangerous and only then should it become. Religion, at its best, is not religion. I don't even like the word religion. It's a cold, lifeless, and institutional word. We should change the world religion to relationship. That's what it should be about. Relationship to God and to man. What relationship do you have with God? "Well, I don't have one." Well what relationship do you have to your fellow man. "[Fill in the blank.]" Well then that's your relationship. That's your "religion". And that's all I have to say about that.
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and now I suddenly feel all Christian like, Thanks a lot Suit.
and . . .Stevie Grant, You are talking out of your ass. Most religions have robbed the poor at some point. I call televangelist thieves for conning dumb asses in the here and now.
Read a fucking book. Like the book of Mormon, or is that not a real religion? Maybe the church of Rome will sell you some indulgences to wash away your sins, or maybe they'll just stone you to death because someone said your a fag, hard to buy your way out of that one. Maybe if you sacrifice your child on top of some mountain on Easter the Church will realize your actually a stand up guy. -
I don't really know anything about it except what I've heard from South Park. So I really don't have an informed opinion.
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I wrote: It's when religion becomes divisive, when it becomes fanatical and legalistic, when it becomes hateful, only then does it become dangerous and only then should it [be torn down and reclaimed by its more moderate, loving adherents]
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Often abuse their power. That's true whether it's a business, church, temple, mosque, governmental institution, or criminal enterprise.
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neither the LDS or the Roman Catholics serve as equivalents to the Church of Scientology. Yeah, if you want to search, you can even find a church (of less than 90 people) based in Oklahoma, that blame all of the US's problems on our our policy of not violently persecuting homosexuality. They do not equal Scientology, or some ridiculous bastardization of Abraham's story (by the way, Easter did not exist before JC's death). Also, fun fact, the first success of mass print was indulgences, followed 60-70 years later by Protestant anti-indulgence pamplets. I guess that's another one of history's "little" irony's you have zero clue about.
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Meant to give you a shout-out earlier because I dug yer obscure Clue reference.Consider this my props to ya man.Mrs. White: Well, it's a matter of life after death. Now that he's dead, I have a life.
Wadsworth: But he was your second husband. Your first husband also disappeared.
Mrs. White: Well, that was his job. He was an illusionist.
Wadsworth: But he never reappeared!
Mrs. White: He wasn't a very good illusionist.
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btw. I read about 5 books a week. And, I am a history geek more than a movie geek. You want to talk shit about David Landes or Niall Ferguson, I'll own you're ass.
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before I go to bed. I am with you, Mundie... Scientology will never even bother the poor, because, by definition: THE POOR DON'T HAVE MONEY. Also, everything you just referenced... was a reference to pre-Modern Christianity. You can't find Christianity or any other actual religion pulling that shit nowadays. Yeah, you can draw on the "the-less-than-a-single-percent" crowd as "proof" of whatever point, but it doesn't make it true. Go suck a cock, I'm going to bed.
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Sorry but nothing will exalt Tom Cruise. The man is FUCKED for life. His career is OVER!!
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STEVIE GRANT INTERNET FUCK JOB THREATING PEOPLE WITH HIS "GUN" BY GUN I MEAN THE BLOODY WEEPING FUCK HOLE BETWEEN HER LEGS. HERE'S THE REALITY BOYO "RELGIONS" THEY'RE ALL THE SAME. RAG HEADED MOHAMMED , JOEY SMITH, BUDDA, HAY-SUS, XENU, l RON HUBBARD OR RONALD REAGAN OR ANY OTHER FUCK NUT RELGIOUS SHITBIRDS. YOU MUST BE A COLLEGE STUDENT COCKSMOKER, ONLY COLLEGE STUDENTS CAN BE SO SMART ABOUT BEING THAT STUPID. GO BACK AND PLAY WITH YOUR "GUNS" TOUGH GUY AND BY TOUGH GUY I MEAN YOU BIG FUCKING QUEEN. NOW GO GET YOUR ASS BACK ON THE STROLL LITTLE BITCH MAKE DADDY HIS MONEY. DADDY NEEDS A NEW PAIR OF GATORS OWNED!
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If you are a sane human being. "You complete me" Farrrrrrrrrrrrt.
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If you were right, I'll still have lived a very happy life, free of the sewage and anguish you seem to have in yours. If you are wrong, this life will be the closest you'll ever get to being a heaven.I'm not surprised you hate me, I was warned that you would. Now I'm going to and WORSHIP Jesus and pray for you. :o)
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Mar 23, 2008 11:51:31 AM CDT
I saw the trailer for this before Drillbit Taylor
by detective_fingerling
And it didn't look very good. I dunno, but it seems like a rental to me.
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Half the reviews we are graced with from AICN are marketing advertisements from your friendly studios. Its a disgrace.
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you learned from South Park, I'd say you're actually pretty well-informed, as a matter of fact. South Park can be fairly lethal satire when it tries to be, and satire speaks to the core of truth. It's funny 'cause it's true.
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then I'd get paid some cash, I've been a talkback on aicn for years though spend most of the time of the Lostbacks, check if you sincerely think I'm a plant. maybe I'm just easily amused?
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Was interesting. I agree with most of it, (Not sold on the 'relationship' idea though, let's keep 'religion' so we can at least see it coming) but just to be contrary, there's one point:
You say "But religion is also beautiful. Who cares if Noah's Ark or the story of Buddha are actually true? They are beautiful stories. Their main purpose is not to accurately capture a historical event, but to teach us something."
That's actually a very secular view of religion, many of the faithful actually do believe that these 'beautiful stories' are very real. They're called 'believers' for a reason. Also, a lot of these stories aren't so beautiful, actually, a lot of them have to do with death, destruction, punishment, damnation, submission, etc. That said, I agree with you that it's not the stories themselves that are the problem, it's the believers. I forget the exact quote, but someone once said: "Religion was invented, and it was a wonderful contribution to the human experience... for about 15 minutes." The point is, don't hate the band, hate the fans. I respect people with true faith, especially the ones that are capable of having it without becoming proselytizing superior windbags, but I don't give the institution of religion itself a pass. You ask "who cares" if anyone believes these stories to be true, well, as I get older, I care a great deal.
If Snomusic wants to pray to Jesus for Suit&Tie's soul, that's cool, I respect that, though I believe it'll do more for Sno that Suit. What I don't respect is that still, in the 21st century, the #1 world power, a secular democracy, no less, is incapable of even considering a political candidate that isn't a true believer, of some kind. Imagine a smart, capable, interesting candidate that was also an athiest. No such animal in politics. It seems to me that as religion becomes less and less supportable, it's adherents cling more and more desperately to the vestments of power in our world. Dangerous times.
Anywho, I digress. Interesting post, just that one things sticks in my craw. cheers. -
Peace be upon thee! Seriously!
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Thanks Brighteyes. Stiller mentions the leaked surprise on Cruise:
http://www.firstshowing.net/2008/03/16/interview-ben-stiller-on-making-tropic-thunder/
I agree with Stiller its really hard to keep Tom's cameo a surprise because the media and paparazzis stalk him and his family *nonstop*. Matthew,Jack Black and the rest of the actors were disappointed too how the media plays these days with no more restrictions. As for Cruise,the actor Im very sad that this man is still ignored by the Academy. Many joke Cruise has to become a Jew or kiss ass like Clooney to win an Oscar. I rarely get disappointed by this man when it comes to entertainment and he is the best to his fans,reporters and even the aggressive paparazzis.
Cruise does not preach his beliefs but its the media and reporters who are Scientology obsess. Let the man talk about his films not hounding about his beliefs and personal life. Matt Lauer said he respects Cruise the man and actor and he gave the Today show the best ratings in a long time.
Those that bash Cruise beliefs are usually ignorant and knows nothing about all the religions in this world from Catholicism,Baptists,Methodists,Mormons,Jehovah's Witness,Orthodox,Muslim,Buddhism,Kabbalah,Christian Science,Hindu,Judaism,Seventh Day Adventist,Lutherans,Nazarene,atheists you name it. Who are we to judge and who's to say what is the right path in this world? So many actors in Hollywood practice their beliefs,seek Rehab like its Disneyland,do prostitution,adultery,hate on America and talk like terrorists and Communists,shove politics in our throats yet they get away with it. I think we're all entitled as Americans to practice our religion and politics of choice.
That said,Im more scared of other religious fanatics than that of Cruise i.e. flying airplanes at the Pentagon,World Trade,Obama's pastor,molesting by priests,corruption by Vatican and other Evangelical pastors etc---
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MY LIFE IS GREAT BECAUSE I KNOW THIS LIFE IS WHERE ITS AT AND I HAVE TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE HERE IN THIS LIFE. SO I VOLUNTEER MY TIME AND MONEY(WHICH IS A LOT BTW). I DON'T GENEFLUCT TO BULLSHIT STORIES MADE UP BY MEN FOR THE PURPOSE OF CONTROLING OTHER MEN THROUGH FEAR AND INTIMIDATION. TRY IT SOMETIME STOP BEING WEAK AND STEP OUTSIDE THE MYOPIC FEAR THAT INVADES YOUR LIFE. ALL INFO THIS IS CONTRARY TO THE AMATURE HEAD SHRINKERS ON THIS BOARDS SO GO BACK TO YOUR CIRCLE JERK SOB SISTERS.. I AM NOT HIDING BEHIND FICTIONAL STORIES OF ZOMBIES AND MAGIC. I MAKE MY WAY IN THE WORLD FEARLESS AND ON MY OWN TWO FEET. DOC CUNTHATTEN 'NUFF SAID MARY.
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AICN, that's who.
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Don't be ashamed.
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Do you wear a ball gag when you're doing all that volunteering so none of the sewage you spew here doesn't fall out there? Do you make sure and get a receipt for that 'donated' money so you can write it off? You DO know that being sentenced to community service and paying a fine does not count as 'volunteering', right?I'm curious - I don't fault you for you for your lack of faith, why do you have such venom for my having faith?Your last post was the least sewage-filled and you used my actual handle so thanks for that.
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Now Im more intrigued to watch this movie more than ever. American Tom Cruise can't have privacy and choose his own belief.....last I check we dont live in Iraq but the United States.
Do drugs like Heath Ledger and Robert Downey Jr. and people will pity you and look up to you as role models. That's how low and twisted this society has become.
Whether Cruise wins the Academy or not he's still a legendary American actor and brought meaning in the world's pop culture. Not many runs their own studios too like U.A. and MGM. Its no wonder many are jealous of successful powerful people. -
One's religion is not a requirement to watch movies. Watching Tom Cruise,his movies,Tropic Thunder does not make me less of Presbyterian or Republican McCain supporter. You are not required to be Jewish to like Indiana Jones 4 or any Spielberg movie, Christians or non believers can definitely watch Narnia,Harry Potter,Golden Compass or Da Vinci Code. One does not have to be Mormon to watch the Dark Knight because Aaron Eckhart is proud to be Mormon hailing from Brigham Young University. Im disgusted by Maggie Gyllenhaal's beliefs that" America deserves 9-11 because America has done many reprehensible things and that our nation is responsible for Sept.11".
Im watching TDK for the Batman,the Joker and Gordon not for the terrorist apologist extraordinaire Maggie who is aiding and abetting Al-Queda because many videos have shown Bin Laden and his top commanders proudly claiming victory for 9-11,deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan. Im ashamed of replying to a blinded hater like you and from now on ignore it because its utter ignorance and juvenile. -
The World Trade Center Towers came down through controlled demolition set by suit and tie! Watch Loose Change for details!
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I don't beleive you are a Prebyterian.
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No one here will judge you for it. Not even the "9-11 apologists". *snicker*
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i apologize for being a SP the other night. good luck with those thetans, and whatever the fuck you were on when you posted.
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I HATE YOU FOR PREACHING IN ANOTHER TB THEN COMING INTO THIS TB TO SHIT ON TOM CRUISE BECAUSE HIS FUCKING NONSENSE ISN'T THE SAME VOODOO BULLSHIT YOU BELIEVE IN ASS MUNCHER. I GUESS YOUR A FUCKTARD SINCE WE ALREADY COVERED THIS TOPIC DICKSUCK. DID YOU GARGLE jesus COCK TODAY SLUGGER?
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I offended your crush.This is exactly why I don't think inmates should be allowed to use the internet unsupervised.
To clarify - there was no preaching that I can recall, but I could be mistaken. I mean one person using the word cult once in a sentence is obviously taken as poo-ing on the person in the cult.You're really...quite sentative, aren't you? -
For a movie that isn't shitting all over it the plant card gets thrown up. Now, don't get me wrong, there are times when it's very obvious it's a studio rep trying to sell his movie. But just because someone likes a movie, doesn't make them a plant.
Forreal, they should change the name of this place to aint it hate news, seriously I haven't seen this much hate and self loathing in one place since the last time I accidentally walked into Hot Topic. -
Dude, I think your Caps Lock key is stuck...
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you were doing fine until you included buddhism on that dangerous religions list. You don't work for the chinese government, do you?
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This is a must see for me because of Cruise,Stiller and Downey Jr.
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So get a big bag of popcorn , a hot dog and a coke and enjoy it! Team Jack for Life!
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