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A New Behind The Scenes Feature About INDY 4 Shows Us "Shia LaBeouf In Action"!!
Merrick here...
There's a new behind the scenes featurette on Shia training for his action scenes in INDIANA JONES AND THE REALLY LONG TITLE THAT LOOKS AWKWARD AND BARELY FITS ON SCREENS.
You can see him sword fighting.
I...
Whatever.
HERE'S THE CLIP!!!
HERE'S THE CLIP!!!
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right?
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Indeed.
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was ok in Disturbia.
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bugnuts...
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...RUN...RUN!!
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...a nice piece of 'beouf'. What's this, 'The Adventures and Indiana Jones and Fonzie'?
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sorry to point out, Starsky, but Fonzi would have been a contemporary of Indy's... he probably would have been around the age of Shia's character in this movie...
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This whole project is a joke. The last thing the franchise needed was another annoying child actor.
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GED DOO SUH CHAHPPAH!!!
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I mean, okay, I don't necessarily have anything against the kid. He was suitably awkward and funny in Transformers. But how the hell did he become the new "it" guy? All of a sudden, as if riding on the crest of a wave of a 1,000 blowjobs, Mr. LeBeaf is now the kid in every single movie. How? Where did he come from? The muck of the gollem bottle? Some powerful important father of media? Who Where How Why?
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He's a good kid, he'll be good, you watch! (and you know you will, no matter who's in it! (It's Indiana Jones for Christ's sake!)
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...you are a whiny bitch.
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I about wet myself on "Harrison is SUCH a man's man..."
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what exactly? That he's a good, young actor who isn't metro sexual good looking and isn't out partying every night trying to fuck Lindsey Lohan? Seriously guys, if your fanboy jealousy was any more transparent, you could use it as a lens filter to shoot his scenes with. Shut the fuck up and get in line for May 22.
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The grestest action hero since Vincent Price.
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He cut you, man!
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And I definitely would have stabbed myself 85 times.
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...just wondering...
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I was looking around on a toy site and it said the Shia character was called Mutt Williams! Surely this isn't true? So they named the dog Indiana, so the son gets called another word for dog? And Williams after John Williams? THAT I can live with...
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Lest we not forget that the kid was raised by Marion and fortunately the genetic rebel emerged. I still say that this would have to be the funnest film shoot ever.
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Coming soon to a Walgreen's near you.
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He's an annoying little twat, much like yourself. That's what's wrong with this kid. Lucas and Spielberg should be pistol whipped A. for writing this character in the first place and B. for having this twat play it. I dare say, this movie has a distinct possibility of flopping on its ass. Just like Star Wars those involved are way passed their prime. Especially Lucas who hasn't been worth a flying fuck since his bitchy wife left him.
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You're sad. What's it like to be that ignorant and full of hate for a project you haven't seen and no almost nothing about? You usually have to be a 16 year old girl or a Floridian to display that level of irrational anger and emotional immaturity. You're basis for hating him is he's an annoying little twat? Wow, that's a real solid argument there. Go cry in your Yoohoo you bitter little geek.
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Mar 21, 2008 10:39:24 AM CDT
I know lots of hot women that love Shia...maybe there's hope for
by stereotypical evil archer
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Shia was ok in Disturbia. But remember Hayden Christensen was ok in Shattered Glass.
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I know I'm supposed to not like Shia but I can't help kinda lovin' the kid. The switchblade action sounds cool.
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Shia has got this part nailed, and you know it. the switchblade juggling thing wasn't even part of the movie, just something he decided his character would be able to do, so he found every spare moment to play with it and he learned some great tricks - and Spielberg said, 'thats great - we'll put that in the movie.'
If he was as horrible an actor as you'd like us to believe, that kind of dynamic would never happen. Mark my words - this 'kid' (hes like, an adult right?) is going to continue to show up in film after film and why? Because he's got the chops. I can't really remember any glaring 'miscastings' by Spielberg before - the guy seems to know how to find the right people for the right roles in his films. How you can knock this particular casting, in a film you've yet to see, given the vast history of evidence in Spielberg's library of films that seems to completely destroy your every theory?
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Back in Shia's simulated 50's, he didn't have your modern Tetris! He DID something with his simulated 50's life! He learned to flip a knife around! THAT was what the fake people in his simulated day called VIDEO GAMES! No get your pansy asses there and breathe some real air and kiss a girl, for crissake!
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I used to be wary of Shia too. Then I saw him in "Disturbia" and "Transformers" and changed my mind. (He's the only thing that made "Bayformers" even watchable). There's really no good reason to hate the guy. He's obviously very enthusiastic about the movie and doesn't seem at all interested in hogging the spotlight.
Is this going to be better than RAIDERS? Hell no, but that's also ONE OF THE GREATEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME. Jeebus, learn to have realistic expectations for things. All it needs to be is a fun action-adventure movie in the vein of TEMPLE and CRUSADE and I'll be happy. -
I used to be wary of Shia too. Then I saw him in "Disturbia" and "Transformers" and changed my mind. (He's the only thing that made "Bayformers" even watchable). There's really no good reason to hate the guy. He's obviously very enthusiastic about the movie and doesn't seem at all interested in hogging the spotlight.
Is this going to be better than RAIDERS? Hell no, but that's also ONE OF THE GREATEST MOVIES OF ALL TIME. Jeebus, learn to have realistic expectations for things. All it needs to be is a fun action-adventure movie in the vein of TEMPLE and CRUSADE and I'll be happy. -
I just don't get it. But I am not 14. He has been good in everything I have seen him in. Hell, he was the only good thing about Transformers besides ILM. Can somebody explain the hate for him?
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You said everything that needed to be said on this subject. Yes, the best special effect in Transformers was that kids performance.
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... that's why people hate him. He'll always be remembered for being associated with Bay's shitfest.
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I like the ones for Quantum of Solace MUCH, MUCH better. These Indy featurettes are pretty sloppy and lifeless, like a third grader put them together.
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Are you all absolutely sure he's supposed to be Indy's son in this? From what I understand, this is a rumor and hasn't been confirmed. Second, if he is, why are you all assuming he has to be a tough guy like his father? Indy's dad is a geeky bookworm so by your rationale shouldn't Indy also be an introverted nerd? For all you know, he's more like his grandpa or a mixture of the two characters. If there's a hole in my logic please explain.
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Really I think there was more to that then meets the eye with it. I think Shia has the shot to prove he is a good actor, he might just have needed a more mature role to display what he can do plus much better lines. I will hold judgment until after.
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Marcus "got lost in his own museum" Brody was cool? Missed that. I thought the whole idea of mining comedy out of that character in Last Crusade was that he wasn't cool but absolutely clueless. Same with Henry Jones Sr. The comedy for that character was in the contrast between him and his uber cool, adventuring son. And do you really think that every single person who rode a bike in the 50's was cool? Really? Was there a Marlon Brando litmus test you had to pass at the dealership before you could legally own one? Man, I wish they would enact that law today because I've seen a lot of dorks on bikes where I live. Besides, I always thought this character was based off of Lucas in his teenage greaser years. He was a hot rodding greaser but guess what? Not so cool.
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What the fuck is your problem? I take it you all hated the idea of Short Round before you saw Temple of Doom, then? Fuck off the lot of you whiny hypocritical bitches.
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But his face and style fits that of era he is playing. Most those guys where small punks, in those days you didn't have huge strong dudes in white under shirts running around. Also he isn't to much of a pretty boy to pull of a rugged role. Top of my head I can't think of another actor around that age to play it.
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Mar 21, 2008 12:48:58 PM CDT
Spielberg's opinion of Shia as an actor is enough for me.
by rev. slappy
I read venom being spewed at Shia prior to his being cast in Indy. And since none of us has seen the film there is no way we can judge his performance in it. Is he even playing a tough guy character in it? Sorry DANNYGLOVERS, but I will take Spielberg's opinion of Shia over yours any day.
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Perfect? I don't know. I haven't seen the movie yet. But Spielberg cast him so I'll put my faith in that. Word on the street is he's pretty good at what he does. Now if this were Lucas' idea, I'd be pretty fucking depressed.
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Rev. Slappy. You and I appear to have written the exact same post but worded differently. You beat me to the punch, dude.
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For those of you who hate him, why do you? If you think he is a bad actor, give me examples of his work you don't like.
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They won't. You presented them with a logical question.
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Only thing I have seen in a neg light was his type casting as that teen role without the best scripts. Over all from what I have seen him in he did a great job making the movie even if a weak story fun.
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Can I borrow your time machine? I say that because you've obviously seen this movie already since you're saying So and So is perfect for this role. Oh well, I'm glad you finally admitted that your vile for his casting is completely based on irrational anger and plain old mean spiritedness.
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You say he's been good in everything he's been in. Yeah, okay...fair enough.
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but he handles that sword like a wus. Just saying.
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So you think the character in Disturbia, the juvenile delinquint, was the same as the picked on shy kid he played in Transformers? And who cares if he's challenged or not? What does that have to do with liking or not liking him in Indy 4? I just want him to play the role as written in THIS film.
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everyone's so busy crying about shia labeouf (who i have no problem with, for the record) that it seems that nobody has noticed that harrison is pulling a marty mcfly on roller skates or something, being towed by shia on his bike. i mean, is that crazy, or what?
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Are you serious? They don't seem like the same to me at all? His performance in Transformers is shy and awkward and his performance in Disturbia is brooding and slightly arrogant. By the way Nicholson has always had limited range. Maybe you just don't understand subtlety of performance. Perhaps you would like it if his acting style was a little more "in your face". But then there would be no such thing as performance subtext.
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Watching "Transformers" and "Disturbia" back to back I see the character of a smug teenage prick from the ME generation appaearing in both films. I saw it in "Even Stevens" and I saw it in "Holes" too. He has ONLY played himself. He plays modern teenagers. Throwing him into a period role, let alone one of the most anticipated films of all time, is not a good idea.
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All this Shia hate is really off base. Watch the film, then decide whether or not to hate him. If you walk into the theater preparing to hate a character, then it's going to make the movie a lesser experience for you.
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You've got to be fucking kidding me. Of all the examples of smug teenage pricks in film and television we have to choose from you single out this guy? That's fucking laughable. The reason he's able to play down to earth teenage characters is because, unlike the rest of his acting generation, he's humble and it's obvious if you've seen any behind the scenes interviews with this kid or bothered to watch how he behaved on that awful Project Greenlight show. Would a smug teenage prick introduce himself in the comic-con video as "Hi, I'm Shia Lebouf and I have no idea what I'm doing in this movie"? Yeah, he's real smug, dude. And as far as only playing himself, I think you're confusing that with the fact that he brings some of his personality to his role in order to ground it in believability which is what every good actor does, otherwise it becomes overstylized and lacks truth. By the way, the ME generation refers to baby boomers in the 70's not these young bucks.
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you are wise.
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As for him "playing the same character" or type in every movie he's in, you can say the same thing about Harrison Ford, Tom Cruise, Adam Sandler, Humphrey Bogart, and a shitload of other movie stars.
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River Pheonix wasn't smug. SHia is fucking smug. Of course he's gonna say he doesn't know what he's doing in the movie. Know why? Because he knows damn well he has no place being there. He's in over his head.
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I ain't seeing this: such is my detest for The Beef.
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Lost it a LONG time ago. Harrison Ford is not a prime example. Watch The Mosquito Coast or What Lies Beneath.
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You just contradicted yourself. If he said that because HE KNOWS he's in over his head then how can he possibly be smug. If he was smug then he would act like HE KNOWS he's the shit and Speilberg's lucky to work with him. Reread your post before you hit send, dude.
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Please give me an example of how he was a prick on Project Greenlight. He seemed to me to be the only one on that set that was grateful for the opportunity.
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Just because one acts smug doesn't mean they don't really know what's going on. He's not going to outright admit that he's a one dimensional actor. Look at the way he bragged about being able to flip a fucking knife. He acts like that adds a whole new level to the film. He's obviously proud of himself and turns on the "I'm just a normal kid" act whenever he feels it suits him.
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So this is an act he keeps up 24/7? Right. Through the entire run of Project Greenlight? Being filmed on set 14 hours a day with a calltime of 6:00am? Do you know any actors? Have you ever stepped onto a set? Because i have. In fact, I'm writing this on a soundstage right now. And I know a lot of actors. Some smug. Some humble. That smug shit is always fucking transparent. You can't keep that up for long no matter how good an actor you are. You boys have got to stop talking out of sheer ignorance. But I forgive you. You know not what you do.
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I just don't understand what the big deal is, why he's being made to be the new "it" guy. It wasn't like, "oh here is this guy who did a really great job in this indie movie, now he's a big star." He just appeared, as a SuperStar, seemingly out of nowhere. You know what I mean? They're creating a superstar. Sort of like how Sentry was awkwardly shoe-horned into the Marvel Universe without any background or prior work / exploits. That was the point of my prior post. I'm not hating, I'm just... perplexed. Hence the theory that he is the son of an important media mogul, or has been on his knees quite a bit, doling blow jobs to all takers.
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Because he's a one-note actor, perhaps? To be fair, Harrison Ford is kind of a one-note actor, but at least that one-note is damn fun to watch, not grating like Shia's awkward teen sidekick schtick. PLUS, his whole schtick will undoubtedly drive the new Indy flick into Last Crusade territory (not single-handedly, but it will certainly add to striving for campiness), which is dreaded for any true Indy fan (okay, that's a bit dogmatic, but I think it's pretty difficult to argue that Raiders isn't the best film in the series).
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Well, Shia was terrible in Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull.
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I see your point. I like him but yes they seem to be making him into the "it" kid. I don't think it has anything to do with blowjobs however. I think it's because of what some of the other talkbackers have alluded to: the new generation of young actors suck. I can tell you from personal experience that most of the young actors now are spoiled, arrogant rich kids who just party all night and see acting not as a serious endevour but a cool lifestyle. So when a kid like Shia comes along with his head on his shoulders, great acting talent, doesn't go out club hoping when he has a 7am call time the next day and looks and behaves like an ordinary kid all the casting directors start falling all over themselves to cast him in every role that calls for "an average kid". It's not that he's the shit but that almost no one else his age has there shit together in this town. I wish there were more young actors like him.
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he's becoming a huge star,but is deeply hated by the geeks.Let's see how this one turns out....I smell OSCAR in 12 years.
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Shia is a very minor factor for me. This film will sink, float or soar on Ford's ability to resurrect Indy within himself and not look like an "aged Harrison Ford playing Indiana Jones." I go back in forth. In that clip in the video of him "skateboarding" behind Shia, he looked good, same as in Last Crusade. In the DK Indy Guide book photo that came out last week, he looked like a propped -up cadaver. Hopefully the next trailer will answer this question.
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heh I had to say it;
seriously though, he's more than decent as an actor. I for one find him likeable, and not irritating at all (he was clearly the only good thing in Transformers). The geek hate is 45% jealousy, 45% catchphrase/meme madness, and the 10 % left are those who *genuinely* can't stand him. I have the survey right under my eyes. -
Not even Lindsay and Paris are kept track of 24/7.
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Kolchak, you are just arguing for the sake of arguing now.
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Mar 21, 2008 4:43:26 PM CDT
ROFLMAO -- that is the campest thing ever.
by the gospel according to bastardface
Oh my Gawd! Watching Shia play with his little sword and swoon for Harrison Ford and his manliness.
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well said. Kolchak, in order to argue a point, you must have one to begin with. Your last comment doesn't make any sense. What are you saying? Stop sniffing glue little boy.
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Anton Yelchin has demonstrated some kind of acting range. You know...varying characters. Personally I'd go for an unknown though.
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The point would be that you implied he couldn't possibly keep up an act of being smug because he's surrounded by cameras SO incredibly often. I call bullshit.
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Let me state this one more time since you obviously keep forgetting it. You're casting a character for a movie you haven't seen and know almost nothing about. Let it go dude. You're not winning this one. The more you write, the more you demonstrate your own ignorance.
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I'm glad you abaondoned your stance that my post made no sense. Since that's obviously been debunked/clarified. But im not casting a character. I'm not even saying Shia won't kick major ass. I'm just saying that as of now he hasn't shown me that he has what it takes to be in one of the biggest fan films of all time.
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You're obviously an idiot. You're proposing he keeps up an act ALL DAY on set to fool everyone into believing he's not smug. Project Greenlight shot him ALL DAY on set genius. That's a 12 to 14 hour day 5 to 6 days a week. I call bullshit on your basic grasp of reality. You're reaching dude.
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It's not a fan film to the people who make it. It's just a film. Try to keep that in mind.
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If the makers hadn't already stated that they were doing this for the fans and with the fans completely in mind.
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Shia LaBeouf HAS played the same annoying, smart-mouthed, smug goof-off teenager in just about every film he's been in.Holes, Constantine, I Robot, Disturbia, Transformers... pick your "favorite" LaBeouf flick.That's why so many people are annoyed and mystified by his continual casting in movies where such an annoying character often seems shoehorned in simply so LaBeouf can make an appearance.Did Constantine or I, Robot need his character to make the film any better? No. Were his characters even relevant to the STORY? No. So why was he IN them???THAT'S why we don't like him. He's the unwanted, loud little brother your mom always forces you to take with you when you go out to have fun, and inevitably ends up ruining the whole experience with his predictably annoying antics.
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They're main obligation is to tell a story they want to tell and hope it's good enough. They still know what's best for the series not you. You see before you ever knew about Indian Jones it was already a fully formed concept in there minds without your help. They don't need your approval for casting. And you're really going to cling to the fact that Shia is keeping up an act most of the time because Daniel Day Lewis is a good actor? What are you on? Go for months? What the fuck does that mean? Are you drunk?
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I disagree. His performance in Disturbia was different than his other roles. And are you saying that the parts in those films were written in just to give him a part?
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But loves shit like Jason VS Predator.
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Look how far your reaching just to prove that this kid is going to suck in a movie you haven't seen yet? You guys are now grasping at the most outlandish theories just to prove Shia Lebouf shouldn't be in this movie. Just admit you have a personal grudge against this guy for the opportunities he's been given in life and the talent he has that you don't. It's obvious your hatred is personal and irrational. You'll feel better if your honest with yourselves about your true feelings.
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Day Lewis can stay in character every day of the week of shooting even off set. Second, this isnt the Spielberg who made Jaws, it's the Spielberg who went back and removed guns from E.T. to be politically correct. This is the Lucas who created Jar Jar Binks. Just because they made the franchise doesn't mean they're godlike in all of their decisions.
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Who said they're infallible? I just trust there decision making process A LOT more than yours. And how do you know Lewis can stay in character every day of the week? Do you know him? Didn't you state earlier that these people aren't filmed 24/7? I don't know if you know this but the performances on screen only account for a fraction of the actual shooting day, method actor or not. And the films themselves traditionally shoot only for a few months then they go back to there normal lives where they don't run around acting like other people all day. And even if they wanted to put up a constant act, why would they? Again, though, why are you so bitter about someone else's success? It's not his fault your life is unfulfilling.
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I don't think I've even seen anything Shia's been in, I just think it'd be more fun to catch up with adult Short Round in this movie.
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is prone to fuck things up. Day Lewis has been reported to stay in character throughout production. Why would Shia act humble when cameras are rolling? The same reason Nicole Ritchie or any other person would: to avoid negative press.
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I admit I am one of the people who slapped their forehead when they heard about Labeouf's casting, then again when i saw the character he was playing. Now with a little time I've mellowed and I think gained a bit more clarity on the subject. First of all I don't think hate or adoration is appropriate here. there is too much left up in the air. I can think of a million actors who are worse than Shia Labeouf, he was the only good thing about Transformers, even for this role. Imagine if it had been Josh Hartnett or something *shudders*. Spielberg isn't the casting dynamo he once was. Look at Tom Cruise in War of the Worlds. Spielberg wanted to work with him again so he shoehorned him into an everyman role, which, as good an actor as Cruise is, he just naturally doesn't fit. Imagine if Spielberg had casting someone like a Richard Dreyfuss. A real everyman just barely holding on as the world literally fell apart around him, how much more dramatic that would have been. Instead Cruise never comes off as anything less than completely capable. Spielberg, for better or worse, nowadays casts his dependable friends, rather than always marrying an actor to a role. I'm afraid in this instance Spielbergs personal preference for Labeouf may have clouded his judgement. The fact of the matter is if someone said to anyone int his message board "I need you to make a list of actors to play Indiana Jones' 50's greaser illegitimate son" there isn't a person here, SPielbergio or otherwise, who would have put Labeouf near the top of that list. it's not that Labeouf isn't any good, it has nothing to do with his talent, but any actor, with the exception of maybe Daniel Day Lewis and Meryl Streep, just has certain qualitites that are beyond their reach. I'm also unsure that it's a good idea to give Indy a sidekick, I think it's a step back. The great thing about Henry Jones senior is that he was an equal to Indy, a perfect foil. They shared similar qualities but were different int he perfect comedic ways without it ever seeming cloying or reaching for a laugh. And even on paper if there is anyone who can match Ford's rugged masculinity combined with sardonic wit it's James Bond himself. You heard that pairing and right off the bat it seemed right. Labeouf....I dunno. I'm not saying he has no range, but there are certain qualities he isn't going to be able to shake, qualitites that have been evident in the roles he's playing. He might be better than we expect him to be personally, but not the perfect marriage that we have come to expect from Indiana Jones films. With that said I'm hoping that it'll work out and trying to muster all my strength to keep an open mind when I hit that theater even if I have been critical in the past.
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You're not paying attention. He can't keep that up all the time. Daniel Day lewis can't keep it up all the time. I don't care how good an actor he is. You obviously are reaching with your outlandish theories because you deeply envy this kids life. I'll keep asking the same question until you face it: Why are you so bitter about someone else's success? Why is it so important to you?
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His billions of dollars and nearly 12 films prove it.
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I have to confess. I really am envious. I wish I could have starred in that MASTERPIECE Transformers and gotten caught wandering around drunk in a Chicago Walgreens...
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I see your point. You are right about Spielberg. He had a slump there and casting definately suffered but I think Munich was a return to form. But of course, my main point is, none of us know what the character is going to be. Assuming he's supposed to follow in Fords rugged style i think, is a mistake. As i stated up there somewhere before I got so far off track, if he's based off of a young greaser George Lucas than Lebouf seems entirly appropriate. Nothing in that trailer indicates to me that he's playing a tough guy of any sort. With Ford also having to approve his casting I'm hopeful. That doesn't mean, however this couldn't be a mistake. These guys aren't perfect. I just think a lot of the misgivings for Shia's casting hinge on a lot of assumptions of what people think the character is going to be. We really don't know.
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Rich people never make bad decisions.
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I thought he did a pretty convincing job. His last scene in particular really moved me and I totally bought him in that part. And that comes from someone who's loathing Jerry Maguire (Cruise as a yuppie experiencing a change of heart and a newfound disgust for cynicism? THAT was a stretch for me - to each his own)
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You can always quit the bobble head factory and get a girlfriend. Okay, maybe just the former. Wow, you're really upset about people having different opinions than you, aren't you?
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Its unbecoming of you and it cheapens your argument. I think I explained, at least in part, a lot of the skepticism of Labeoufs part. If anything I'm happy he is getting a shot compared to many others. It's sad that someone like Labeouf get's this unfair "not beautiful" tag, when someone like the far more creepy looking Zac Efron (to use a contemporary) get's to be a heartthrob, and without an ounce of talent behind it, somehow gets to make movies with Richard Linklater. Like I said, it's nothing personal against Labeouf, I think he's a good actor, I'm just afraid this part might not be up his alley. But we'll see. Oh, and Lewis does stay in character, at least for the most part. That's one method acting is. Creating conditions for yourself that immerses you in the role in every possible way.
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he just took a couple of terrible decisions that alienated many fans (especially the ancient ones) and prevented the Prequels to shine (mildly) until midway through them. Shame, but nothing will rob him from the great renewal in storytelling that was the first Star Wars. If only this proves that he can start good, but struggles to finish the job. That's worrying for Indy IV but I try to keep the faith while not setting my hopes too high. Which is not the most easy task for a Talkbacker. Amirite, Merrick?
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Don't typically resort to defamation. What can we draw from this? Everyone take a collective moment to ponder...
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and it's still two months away. Oh well, better get ready for that next Apatow love fest thread that will eventually come out.
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i like short round but he's silly and childish. if you love him and hate the idea of mutt you're just being bitchy.
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and drops the act once the commentary track for the DVD is done.
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and I didn't mean to sound like I thought he was terrible in WoW, but I think if it was someone who was less obviously capable and naturally more of an everyman, it would have been more dramatically interesting. I never believed that Cruise couldn't handle whatever situation he was in, and it's not because he's movie star Tom Cruise, he just has a confidence he can't entirely shake. That's why his best roles are guys that start witht hat confidence and then have it slowly unwound on him. Like Magnolia or Born on the Fourth of July. He's so good in both those films it's ridiculous he doesn't have at least one Oscar. Like I said the guy is a fantastic actor, unfairly vilified actually, just not quite right for that role. Another example of that would be Dicaprio in Gangs of New York.
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The only thing that really bugs me about him is his awful name, which apparently is his real one. He is no more of a "one-note" actor than Harrison Ford is - which is no criticism of Ford as I love the guy. Be honest: how many different variations of "cranky middle-aged guy" can Ford play?
Aside from that and forced references to his Jewishness, most of the Shia-hate on this site seems to consist of that particular and peculiar kind of geek jealousy that's normally associated with people like Leonardo DiCaprio.
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Look at Witness. Then Regarding Henry. Then Jones. Then Mosquito Coast. Then What lies Beneath. Not one note. Keanu Reeves, however, completely one noted.
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I partially agree (love Magnolia, despise GoNY); I had a hard time with him on the first act of WotW, and suddenly (to paraphrase the aforementioned, loathed Cameron Crowe "movie") he had me at "Enough with the Ray shit!", that line directed toward Justin Chadwick. That was great Spielberg direction to me (I had a reminiscence of CETK at this very moment) and the movie was great to me from that moment.
And as I said earlier, I loved the ending. The family part, not the invasion bullshit; I think Spielberg also has some difficulties to finish his movies recently: AI, Minority Report (AKA "Whodunit for Dummies") and WotW were quite weird in that regard, and given that I love the Last Crusade ending, I hope he'll manage to end Indy IV on a similar note. -
I resort to personal attacks when I'm arguing with a guy throwing out outlandish theories all day. My argument stands valid. The man is arguing that Lebouf is an arrogant punk that keeps up an act all day to throw people off. oes this sound logical. And yeah, I know what method acting is. I watched Charlize Theron do it all day on Monster for three months. She still relaxed at the end of the day and interacted with the crew. If she was a bitch, she wouldn't have been a secret for long. No offense but you came in at the tail end of the argument. The claims that method actors use there techniques to hide the fact that they're raging assholes is absurd. It takes a lot of energy to give a great performance like what I saw Lewis do in There Will Be Blood so what would motivate them to keep up this act for any other reason than for there craft? It makes no sense. Again, all I'm saying to YOU is, we don't know what this character really is yet. But I do appreciate that you think it's unbecoming of me. It is. But some people have to know when to say when.
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can't wait til someone adds fuel by mentionning Ellen Page or Ben Stiller.
I love (well, "like" would be more fitting) both of them, they're just easy targets around here. I thought the envy-fueled geek hatred wouldn't be complete without them. -
Charlize Theron left character, so obviously Day Lewis does too. Kneel before the flawless logic.
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...is just silly.
I'm gonna go have sex with a woman.
Not that half of you on these boards would know anything about that sort of thing.
Buncha basement-dwelling, masturbating, pimply-faced little twats.
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Do you like anything?
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has definatley been in a slump as of late. I thought WotW was incredibly weak. But, it seems when he does his realistic dramas, sudenlly his A game comes screaming back then he gets rejuvinated. Hopefully this will carry over into this film. It's also not the first time he's gone through a down turn. Look at the late 80's early 90's. I couldn't stand Always and Hook but he pulled out of that so I have faith.
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Indy IV is FAR from being the most hated movie on this site. Speed Racer anyone? From the guy(s) who brought us Reloaded and Revolutions. Starring Emile Hirsch, opens a week after Iron "This year's Little Miss Sunshine" Man, threatening his $200 million opening (Empire Online estimate, adjusted for inflation)?
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Once again, Kolchak, I have no idea what you're getting at. Yes, Lewis left character. No one can keep it up constantly. That's what I've been saying the whole time dude. Glad you agree with me.
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And GI Joe. But Tom Cruise is loved on this site all of a sudden.
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Skywalker, I think I just made it clear I like Both Tom Cruise AND Shia Labeouf. If I'm critical of many of today's genre films it's because they are cynical pieces of work made squarely to be money machines without an ounce of quality behind them. And the minute I stop backing up my point of view then feel free to give me shit but until then I'm gonna continue standing up for quality. And speilbergio I agree saying Labeouf is an asshole isn't right. If anything he comes off as pretty appreciative of his situation and stays out of the tabloids for the most part. In an age where some act as if fame is right that's refreshing. One minor incident at a walgreens doesn't disqualify him, I know I myself have probably been not the most savory of people to deal with after a night out having a few too many and he's publicly apologized and said how embarrassed he is and never made an excuse. Also on the subject of Spielberg I totally agree. His genre efforts have been weak but god damn if Munich wasn't one of the best films he's ever made and I've ever seen. I'm looking forward to his Chicago 10 movie and Lincoln biopic.
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You say hello to the Tin Man and Dorothy when you see them.
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Why don't I just say hello to these stripper nuns standing in front of this greenscreen here for you? Man, they're never going to get this confessional past those stage doors.
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Yeah, I can't wait to see Liam Neeson as Lincoln. What a great choice. But the one I'm really looking forward to is Interstellar. I agree with what you said about these genre films being crap corporate machines which is why I can't wait to see Spielberg do a serious science fiction film about quantum physics and time travel. Now if Fincher could just get Rendevous With Rama made.
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Hey, I'm sorta new and don't post a lot, but it cracks me up when people attack with things like "go date a girl," or "you wouldn't know what sex is like." Um, you folks writing that are posting here too! I guess what I'm saying is, if you want to call the talkbackers nerds, maybe you want to put down the 12" Han Solo action figure first. (In the interest of full disclosure, I'm not a nerd and I have plenty of sex...as far as you know.) P.S. Shia sucks. ;)
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on these talkbacks.
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Han Solo
Indiana Jones
Jack Ryan
The President in AF1
Professor In that 'girl in the river' movie
The security specialist in the bank heist movie
So....
how come its okay for Harrison Ford to play the same exact character in every single movie he's in, and you're all okay with that - but oh no Shia can't do that because that means he sucks.
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Give the kid a break. So he ruined Transformers for you. Boo Hoo. You went into that hating it anyway.
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the last couple posts make a lot of sense. Very refreshing.
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are bashing Harrison Ford to make a point? Let me dip into the memory bank ... nope, don't recall any instance where Ford was ANNOYING.
Did you all drink some Koolaid made with pharmaceutically tainted water? Or did this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IXCK1EyP4s
suddenly become acceptable acting? And to bash Harrison Ford to defend the Beef? No wonder we get such shit movies. Disturbia? Ford didn't do anything nearly that weak until 3 decades into his career. Maybe Shia will surprise one day with a great performance that will silence all his critics, but that hasn't happened yet. -
Must be we're all jealous of him and his having sex with women..
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Let's all sit back and laugh.
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Why don't you crawl back into the Lost talkback and try to reclaim some dignity? LOL
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people talking about Claire's ass, and the hick basketball games that are on.
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Keep telling yourself that. LOL
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That's what you do best
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Try being original for a change, Skywalker.
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is still an all girls club.
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You actually were funny there.
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Dies.
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Most of you guys are just pathetic life hating assholes. This TB is more proof of that.
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Flames on Optimus
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Or does it come naturally to you. I fucking despite you, you shitthroat cuntrug?
You know what's really akward and totally fits in your pants. Your dick. -
YOU'RE LIKE HERPES. CUNT
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Are you 14 years old, or trying to be some dumb ass hip hop artist. Try to complete a sentence for one in your life.
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I love Iron Man, but I love Speed Racer way more. I'm more excited about Speed Racer, but I'm excited about both. ya feel me? I need to get to sleep. Too many mood altering substances. Gak!
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I just dislike him as a person, and that rolls over into a dislike of seeing him in movies.
I'm not even sure what it is about him - I think it is a bunch of small things which really grate on me.
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It's that simple.
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Wow, a new variation of Godwin's Law. Hilarious.
What BSB is conveniently choosing to ignore is the very annoying and almost unwatchable performance Ford gave us in ROTJ. If it's early he wants, look no further than Ford's gay henchman in The Conversation. Like I said earlier, I love Ford, so I don't have a problem with an actor who basically plays the same guy in 80% of his films as long as he does it believably.
What's at the heart of the matter is that BSB has used Shia hate as the basis for a plague of countless unfunny title spammer posts, which is why a backlash is hitting him harder than most other talkbackers. I can appreciate this as it now means that his prestige is on the line and he has to defend himself by hating even more.
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"Meanwhile the site also lists "Star Wars" actor Ian McDiarmid as playing the role of Professor Levi in the new film. This is surprising as McDiarmid played the role of Professor Levi, a friend of Indy's father living in Paris, in a 1993 episode of "The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles" in which Indy has a torrid affair with Mata Hari. As the action of this film is set in 1957, forty-one years after the events of that episode, McDiarmid would have to play the character as in his late eighties (that is unless a flashback element is a part of the action)." Sounds to me more like he maybe was the victim of an alien abduction, a la CE3K, along with Professor Ravenwood.
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Mar 22, 2008 8:12:27 AM CDT
Lets focus on the fact the trailer fucking sucked.
by the gospel according to bastardface
The cartoony CGI, the pretentious lead-in, the glib self-knowing overwritten one-liner "damn," the awkward rhythm and what you got is a movie I am not expecting to be half as good as the originals.
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PLANTY, PLANTY, PLANTY PLANT. It's obvious. Oh and Krull will own your ass.
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he's in 3 big movies, no one in real life gives a fuck, but because you spend your lives on this site and in movies you think he's invading your life. failed.
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FACT.He's making movies. You're not. Get over it people.
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Yeah, I really poured a lot of vitriol on Shia in this TB. All of 2 posts. Shut the fuck up until you have a point to make.
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I wouldn't be throwing stones if I were you, Corps War Superstar.
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There are movie stars who are very humble but nevertheless know they are movie stars for a reason. Shia is also very humble but the difference is he is sincere because he knows he aint a fucking movie star and doesnt know how da fuck did he get starring roles in a 2 of Spielberg's biggest movies of the last couple years. You can tell from the first video that introduce Marion to the audience. he was like "I dont know what I'm doing here with Harrison, Steven.." then Spielberg in shock tells him "we invested a lot in you..." then they cut his last few words "...you, prick, shot da fuck up"
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I have nothing against Shia. Ha ha. And I wish him well, and hope he will be fun to watch...I hope
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the biggest fucking collection of morons I have ever seen. Read this shit. Holy christ you people are pathetic.
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They amuse me with their feigned hatred.
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Please GOD don't cast Shia as Yorick. He's smarmy, insincere and doesn't have an honest bone in his body.
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No Easter eggs, no chocolate bunnies, no marshmallow chicks, no fake grass, no baskets!
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why anyone cares about "method" acting. that is the biggest pile of bullshit ever created. a good actor doesn't need to "transform" into someone else, continue to act like them off set and say it's great acting. you just act when they say acton.
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You're dead on. Looks like shia has sucked a lot of dicks around here, but it's time we put down the koolaid, people.
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THAT'S RIGHT YOU ARE ALL COCK GOBBELERS AND WANT SHIA TO RIP OPEN YOUR ASSES FRUIT CAKES. THERE'S A GAY PRIDE PARADE SOMEWHERE IN THE WORLD THIS WEEKEND. GO FLY THE COLORS FAGGOTS WHILE AT THE PARADE JUST THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH COCK YOU CAN SUCK WHILE THERE. MERRY EASTER QUEERS!
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...you feign ignorance to make a cheap point. In this case you're pretending that I claimed you used this particular talkback for Shia-hate-based title spamming. I never said any such thing and am, naturally, referring to countless other talkbacks where you've both title spammed and used Shia-hate with "hilarious" results.
If you're going to defend your indefensible behavior, then at least try to do it with some measure of skill and verve rather than use flash-bang to draw attention away from it.
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And then once May hits, I'll have trouble keeping up with all the movies I want to see. Kind of depressing.
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Before the Christmas hype.
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trust in Lucas to deliver. he has never let us down, there's nothing to suggest he'll start now. jake loyd was a brilliant casting decision. hayden christensen? perfect. jar jar touched all our hearts.. believe in lucas.. believe in beef.
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You're under the mistaken impression that I want to enter into a conversation with you.
I do not. In fact, I stopped reading at "..." because I fell asleep. Thank you, because it was a nice nap.
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Feel free to ignore me. I'm still going to flay you for title spamming whenever I see it.
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You are the essense of buzzkill. "Flay" me? Have fun trying.
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Come along, puppy.
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Loser!
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Go Shia, shame he is such a cock in real life eh.
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Quote: "Doesn't make them closeted, either, MNG - that's a piss poor defense."Yeah, ya think? It's certainly no more flippant than half the lame ass shit I see on this thread. In any case, the point remains the same = you say that Shia annoys you. I say...Get Over It.
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"I always was an INDY fan, I had the posters at home, my brother used to watch the movies over and over on Betamax (yeah, we choose the losing format), once I got past a theater and saw an Indiana Jones poster on the wall. I was 8. This is enough credit for me to genuinely star in this new volet of the adventures, you couldn't find a bigger actor fan out there, I mean, who's experience with Indy in his youth was passing the poster by ?"
Beaouf ! Beaouf ! -
out of place little cunt in every movie he's ever fucking been in. He's a one note talentless bitch so utterly miscast for this role it boggles the mind what the fuck exactly Spielberg was thinking. He is out of touch with his target audience because he's too old, too tired and too goddamn blind to make these kinds of movies anymore. He looks about as much like a 50's greaser as DJ Qualls would in this role. I won't be surprised if this flops around like limp soft donkey dick.
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I admire the effort gotha,, but you're pissing into the wind.
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I love to hear how people can defend this guy. He plays the same type of character in every movie. Believe me I have no problem with that. I know what to expect of if I go to a movie with him in it. I am not bashing the guy. I wish him well with his career. But face it. He really plays the same character in every movie he has been in. It will also happen with the new Indiana Jones movie. Sorry die hard Shia fans. Nothing new or magically will come of his performance. It will be same guy who does the same thing movie after movie. I expect nothing more.
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What is your fascination with Le Beefboy?
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There is no fascination. Sure, he's an excitable boy. But he's also got chops. So, I don't really understand the overwhelming hate that's poured over him by a few folks on this site. (Surely there's got to be a more deserving, genuinely no-talent hack worth ganging up on?!) It seems like misplaced insecurity or something. I'd say the "fascination" exists on the other side, so to speak.BTW - nice emulation of glovedone/Braffed's style over in the other TB. Classy.
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No, he don't got chops. But if you like him, more power to you.
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I am very curious as to what "chops" are you refering about. I have no hate for the guy. I just don't see anything exciting about his performances. He seems to be a one dimensional actor. Same thing for each role. Yes, he is young and possibly has time to get those "chops." Still I am curious as to what role(s) he has demonstrated his great versatility. Not calling him names. Just trying to ask questions.
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Honestly, I haven't seen enough of his movies to know all the roles he has played so far. But from what I have seen, it's certainly no better/worse than a dozen other up-and-coming actors working these days. I just think the guy has been singled out because he's been in (or going to be in) some big franchise-style films. And for whatever reason, it's drawn the ire of AICN's geekdom. (I seem to recall DiCaprio going through a very similar phase.)But I agree; he's young and he's got potential. It all comes down to the roles he chooses to play in the future. Time will tell whether his talent has a broader range. That being said, he's no Daniel Day Lewis. Not today.Cheers.
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Thanks for the post. You made a very good comment about DiCaprio. That was very true. The potential is there for Shia. It will be interesting to see roles he will invest in for future performances. Like I said before I don't hate the guy. I just don't care for much of his acting. That could change with one movie. Who knows. Indiana Jones might be it. I will take the wait and see approach. Take care.
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If anyone ever needed to do a term paper on Shia LeBarf, they could put your posts to good use. Nice job.
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But it's noted.
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You've been playing with Pazuzu too long.
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Yeah, I know. So was I. Quit jumping out of your asshole bag on every silly post.
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True Shia is seemingly incapable of playing any part in any way other than with stuttering sarcasm, but he's good at it. I'm sure he'll do the same in this movie but I'm fine with it. Justin Long did the same crap in Live Free Or Die Hard and it worked fine I suppose. Shia will be fine. He at least seems to understand the Indy franchise (rather than Long who hadn't even seen a Die Hard prior to being cast). And for better or worse I know a lot of girls who are excited to see the movie cause Shia is in it.
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Despite Pazuzu's breaking of our unspoken unagreement of not talking to each other, how about we get back to that and you stay the hell away from me and not infect me with your utter lameness? You and Pazuzu are fucking downers, I need to pop a Prozac everytime you fuckers post your tiresome lame bullshit. Go lecture on Shia to someone who cares. Which would mean Pazuzu. HAHA fucker!
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Wow. I don't know what kind of fantasy you've conjured up in your head but you are truly delusional. Are you trying to lick my balls?! Or, do you just want to make out a little?I think I've given you more fair play than you realize. Yet, you seem incapable of not attempting to jump my ass whenever you and I "speak". So, how about you quit projecting YOUR tiresome bullshit and yank your head out of your ass.Hope you had a happy Easter, fuckface!
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This may have been said already, but, the name Mutt Williams is so bad that, if there's any desire to spawn a new franchise, Shia must adopt the Indy moniker after Harrison hangs up the whip. There won't be no "Mutt Williams and The Invaders of the Bay of Pigs"
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I'm not keen on Shia either but I would like to see the old pulp serial formula applied to more recent history.
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I will say this for George, he always pulls out something completely off the fanboy radar. Be it plots or titles, he avoided the whole stupid Noah's Ark, Atlantis to-and-fro that gummed up the internet for the past ten years.
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...you WISH we had such an unspoken agreement. The fact is I will call you on your insufferable horseshit whenever I see it. Don't flatter yourself into thinking you're a match for me or MNG on any level. Run back to your new idiot thread-killing friends in the Terminator TB where you belong.
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