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"There Will Be...Trouble"!! MGM Closer To ROBOCOP Resurrection??
Merrick here...
An interesting press release about MGM seems to confirm the studio's interest in a project we'd heard alluded to a while back. It dropped off the radar for a while (we were all hoping this one would just go away), but now, unfortunately, now it's back.
Here's a snippet from the release:
MGM is planning an exciting fall and winter release schedule. In partnership with Sony Pictures Entertainment, MGM will bring new installments of two of its tentpole franchises -- the new James Bond movie QUANTUM OF SOLACE and Steve Martin in PINK PANTHER 2. MGM will also release United Artists' international thriller VALKYRIE, starring Tom Cruise on October 3. With the appointment of Parent, MGM will enter its new phase of evolution by focusing on its major movie franchises highlighted by JAMES BOND and PINK PANTHER sequels, THE HOBBIT, THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR 2, THE OUTER LIMITS, ROBOCOP, DEATH WISH and FAME, among others.
Most of the projects listed here ('cept for maybe OUTER LIMITS...don't know what they're doing with that) are already known, or we've already covered.
BUT...
ROBOCOP!?!?!?!
In the past, we've heard rumblings that a new ROBOCOP movie was feasible...but its blatant inclusion in a press release suggests that maneuverings may be further along than we knew.
Needless to say, it's an extremely safe bet that a resurrected ROBOCOP franchise would be nowhere near as ballsy, edgy, or socially satirical as its source material (especially Verhoeven's film)- our age of hyper-sensitivity and over-amped political correctness would never allow it.
You can read the entire release HERE.
I mean, really, when was the last time we saw something like this?
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Suck it.
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Dammit, donwillymo!
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March 14, 2008, 9:30 a.m. CST
you were watching Breakfast at Tiffanys or something I bet...
by donwillymo
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Hollywood needs to GET FUCKED. ENOUGH. Why not re-make "Gone With The Wind"? "Citizen Kane"? "Casablanca"?!? I know it's not the same thing, but now they are re-making MOVIES WHICH HAVE NO REASON TO BE RE-MADE. This is absolutely embarrassing.
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March 14, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST
No way is Robocop relevant anymore.
by The Gospel According to Bastardface
I smells an IronMan style movie, which would make no effin sense.
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It's a worthless idea unless they plan to use Robocop to as a social commentary on the current administration's war on freedom and/or the Patriot Act.
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If they want to make a sequel and get Verhoeven back I'm all for it. If they want to "re-boot" the franchise and start over with a sleek 21st century RoboCop then FUCK THEM!
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Goddamn, I'm gonna play the lottery tonight!
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That they are making another Pink Panther and Thomas Crown Affair.
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Don't waste a good killing machine! Make him a cyborg!
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Well it does!
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Maybe I won't play the lotto, I'll probably get hit by a bus going to the store.
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Is that studios can make a movie without holding that much back. I wouldn't trust anybody but Verhoeven with Robocop. Most of the directors today are a buncha cgi loving fruitcakes.
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That man is a genius. I enjoyed the hell out of Black Book. He has a unique vision and style, and few boundaries. He can do Robocop justice.
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Are they insane? Don't answer that, its rhetorical.
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...then let's at least do it right. <p>During the next Academy Awards or Golden Globes, we warn all civilians and a few select celebrities (the list would be short). Then we set off a small nuclear device and wipe them all out. The entire fucking industry. Actually, it'd have to be closer to the People's Choice Awards than the Oscars, so we can get Michael Bay and Bret Ratner. We'd have to get all the studio suits too. I leave that plan up to you, I can't think of every Goddamned thing.</p><p>Then, whoever replaces them can make all the remakes they want. Except they won't, because whoever replaces them will have original fucking ideas.</p>
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I'm pretty sure that movie is already in the can.
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The number of criminal corporate enterprises we've seen exposed in the last 10 years proves Robocop to be a visionary film. They've privatized everything in our nation, and now they're auctioning off the airwaves for total privatization (instead of doing the smart thing for the country and leasing them). Blackwater supplanted much of the police in New Orleans. How much longer before we see a Robocop America? Fight the Power!! <p> And Owen Wilson as Officer Murphy!
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It won't nearly match the original, why bother. It'll just be a watered down version that will be barely recognizable to the original product.
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Oh. Hell. No. Bzzzz
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...why no criminal thought to shoot him in the chin. Duh!
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That's what I told myself.
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First off, I have the X-rated version of this movie on laserdisc, and the film should have been released like that in theaters. It's unfortunate that nearly every film Verhoeven has made has been cut up by the MPAA. The man knows how to make a film that can shock, provoke, and excite it's viewers. Leave him alone, MPAA. <p> That being said, there really is only one way to create another Robocop movie. That is by allowing Verhoeven to direct, and Weller to play Robocop. However, that statement assumes that both men would be willing to do it. I'm fairly certain Verhoeven would not touch another Robocop film, unless he had total control over the entire production, and was being paid a gazillion dollars to do it. <p> Weller, on the other hand, I believe, would never ever ever do another Robocop film. There were just way too many hours getting into and out of the suit for it to be worth his while again. That's a shame, really, because, by God, NOBODY can play Robocop like Weller. He had it all down, even putting emotion into the character when you couldn't even see his face. THAT is the mark of an actor. The viewer actually felt sympathy and sorrow for the character of Robocop without even seeing a face. <p> When this movie came out, when, in 1987? ...it was shocking and violent, and nobody had ever seen anything like it. This can never be reproduced or reinvented. It's something that happens and then never happens again. If we can't have Verhoeven and Weller again, then the film just isn't worth making.
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And no ninjas.
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The painting was in the museum all along!
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I hope MGM realises that Verhoeven is still interested in doing Robocop!
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That being said, if the DVD is being sold for $1.00, I'll buy it. Otherwise, count me out.
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"Biotches leave!"
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...a good role of the dice.
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Can you believe that?
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I lost it...
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Zack- "Ok we need you to stand in front of this green screen so we can later add a computer generated old building behind you." <p> PA - "But Zack there is a real old building right acroos the street." <p> Zack - "You're fired."
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...female brutality. One woman was only kicked in the face and there was only an *attempted* rape. WTF, Paul? I guess it took a couple movies to really get into his stride.
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While it's cool the reminisce about Robocop, what's the deal with The Hobbit? Are the Tolkien estate and New Line still mucking up the works? When will the official anoucement of the director come down?
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God help us, but with Hollywood rebooting 80s franchises you know that Police Academy will be considered. I would like to see a rebooted Robocopy especially an updated CGI of the ED-209 which could be kick-ass using today's technology.
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this has to be done in that same ultra violent way that the first was done, take a page from rambos book and dont pussy out, r 2 and 3 were completely different movies from the first and were so watered down that they made me puke. robocop is not a super hero, if they go in with that mind set then they will be off to a good start
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Sweded!
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You gotta have Boddiger! Man, I loved this movie. The idea of a remake puckers my lemons. But the idea of a sequel? Awesome. <br><br>Im very interested in the 'corporate wars' idea mentioned earlier. Would love to see Robocop found and reactivated by rebel militia. Meanwhile OCP discovers Robocop's active signal and send thier Robocop 1000 (Which is a Terminator). And Predator is in it too.
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Dick Jones runs OCP, OCP runs the cops, you're a cop!!!
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YOU HAVE 15 SECONDS TO COMPLY!
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There is no way "Robocop" could be remade in today's PG-13-centric world. The original is one of my Top 10 favorite movies ever... I can quote it backward and forward.<p>It's interesting how marginalized Hollywood is these days... there's no desire to take a chance on a new idea or franchise... they'd rather strip mine something that people recognize. In another 10 years, we'll probably see a remake of "The Matrix".
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that speeder bike joke is the most obscure reference I have seen in years. since I got it, it's frikkin hilarious. i assume you mean this http://www.aintitcool.com/node/35888
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Cops don't like me. So I don't like cops. Nenenenenenenene BOOM!
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"Robocop? More like Robo-Dumbass!"
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Come on if there gonna resurrect MURPHY HAVE A BROTHA PLAY THE MAN.
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It was fucking crap. How about? Robocop is Awoken in the year 2027 when Skynet has taken over the world. Up Hold the law!
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<p>the Tigers are playing.TONIGHT!<p>Give the man a Hand.<p>Clarence rules!<p>
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FLAMES ON ROBOCOP!
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I HAVE DRANK TOO MUCH COFFEE
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They fix everything
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to-nite.... I never miss a game.
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MURPHY.
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"Thank you."
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That's it my man. Harass Merrick every chance you get!
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<P>...Miguel Ferrer's stimulating conversation with hookers, Clarence Boddicker, Dick Jones, and most likely no "Nuke 'Em". <P>Oh, and no Paul Crane going "hellllllllllp meeeeeeeeeeeee"
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I thought the writers were back on the payroll? Still no originality found during their time off?
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forgot about "HHHEEeeEELlLLPppP MmMMeeEEEeeeEEE AOOoooo!!!!" Oh, not NEARLY enough nuclear-waste-creatures in film these days.
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Now that Frank Miller is big in Hollywood (unlike back in the day when they butchered his Robocop 2+3 scripts), they should film his Robocop vs. Terminator comic.
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I never read the comic but the game was pretty good. I mean for a side scroller, 15 years ago. <p>So yeah, they should totally adapt that. Because the complex an nuanced theme of a robot trying to kill a woman and her kid can't fully be explored with only two movie trilogies and a TV show.</p><p>(I actually like the TV show)</p>
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Continuing the franchise is fine, so long as it's not a remake. Think you can do one better than Basil Poledouris, Paul Verhoeven, the meanest stop-motion effects in movie history, and pyrotechnics and sound that brought splatterpunk to action cinema? Without the satire, Robocop would have been a landmark. With the satire, it's a goddamned masterpiece of action cinema, and as fun as Starship Troopers is, Robocop made all the salient points first, and made them more honestly. You gonna remake Alien or Terminator? Isn't it time we remade the Matrix? Write something. If you can't write something, read something. No risk equals no reward. If you can't afford the risk of new content, expect someone else to take the brass ring. Be content with your mediocrity and your crappy financial performance, and stop sending out press releases about the "new" company you're building. Robocop is about the dangers of bureaucracy and the importance of taking risks for the good of others. Instead of remaking it, try watching it! The message of the film is not subtle. If you missed it, you have no business making movies at all.
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Robocop is Peter Weller, and its time has past
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This is the company that produced 2001. This is a disgrace to one of the finest cinematic legacies in history, and that crap I read about this being MGM's shining hour makes me sick in light of stuff like this.
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oops that has already be made : http://tinyurl.com/yw8c9h
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i gave u a chance & u blew it!
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then I wont even be bothered with it. If however its set in the uk and all officer murphy does is shoot and crush the skulls of chav's, then I for one will buy for a dollar. Maybe even two.
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A re-boot is a terrible idea. I can already picture Hayden Christensen VOLUNTEERING for the operation, getting some go-go-gadget suit of ADDRidiculous Armor, and shooting criminals in the leg below the knee in the name of the law. Nope, I don't think a re-boot would work (unless they plan on amping up the satire and violence). <br><br>A sequel probably wouldn't be any better unless Miner and Neumeier come back to write and Verhoeven directs. Even then, it better one hell of a script.<br><br> The bold sarcasm that made Robocop great isn't popular in cinema anymore, sadly. I'd love a new sequel that would introduce an American global-police force, with commercials promoting it as "Kickin' ass and takin' names around the globe! Join today!!!"<br><br>Oh, and if Weller isn't willing to comeback for Robocop, I elect Phil Lamarr. I'm only halfway kidding.
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as Johnson... if ya know what i meen...
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"Issac Hayes as Junk-it, the old robot who has seen the hood go from bad to worse."<br><br> Damn thats funny... "Junk-it", LOLOL
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I'm pretty sure after Quatum of Solace hits everybody will turn on Craig and then he'll run out his contract making three more movies that satisfy neither Bond fans nor the newschoolers who went ga-ga for Casino Royale.<br><br>That is unless a horribly titled Bond film with a bunch of teenage love interests for an ugly old Craig fighting against Pacino's latest phone-in performance turns out to be some groundbreaking masterpiece, but everything I hear just turns me more and more off this one.
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LMAO....Brilliant.
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Just don't do it. I couldn't stand any more butchering of this franchise... Unless it's unbelievably brilliant, just let robocop go...
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Robocop wasn't so much prophetic as observational. It was made in the greedy 80's remember.
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Maybe there are some secret negotiations going on. I wish.<p> You know, this could be disastrous, but if it was done right it could be a thing of beauty. I've been saying this for years: ROBOCOP was made before Rodney King! There's so much more to address, and yet so much of the movie is still relevant: the privatization of everything, the militarization of police weaponry, amoral corporations fucking everyone over for money. I would love to see how Verhoeven would approach the material now.<p> As for the PG-13 thing I don't think we should worry about that unless there is actual evidence. They already killed the original series by doing that, I don't think we should assume they are stupid enough to do that again.
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We should *always* assume they are that stupid.
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It's one of my favorite movies. There's Nothing like seeing that kind of violence at the age of 10, totally blew me away. Someone mentioned that nobody thought to shoot Robo in the exposed portion of his face. I recently picked up the Collector's Edition and watched the behind the scenes stuff. It was explained that his face was not actually his skull, muscle, and skin tissue. When they built him they actually wrapped synthetic skin over his cyborg skull. He had a brain and some spinal cord but his head was all nuts and bolts and synthetic tissue. Including his eyes and teeth. <p> They said the purpose was to leave a bit of humanity with him so it didnt drive him mad if he were to see himself. Furthermore it was an indication to others that he was in fact a human in a cyborg body. Bringing on the creep factor. If Paul directs the reboot (he has already expressed interest) then I dont mind at all. If anyone else does I hope it goes down like a drunk 80's blonde bimbo at a Poison concert.
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I'm expecting to see him run, jump, do backflips, do karate. With today's technology you just wait and see.
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"I don't think we should assume they are stupid enough to do that again." No, I fear they're just stupid enough, Vern.
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And you're pinching a loaf on his memory, and one of his greatest achievements.
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Seeing as how he's finally getting what he deserves in the movie biz w/ Sin City & 300, his spin on Robocop would definitely make a worthy remake--cuz honestly, who gives a flying 747 fuck about another pink panther?
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For you Americans, look again at Starship Troopers. The movie is prophetic. Paul Verhoeven showed you your future...
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Paul McCrane!!!
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Less crime there would be!
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I grew up watching that movie as a kid and I still love it. Quotes. framing(thank you Irvin Kershner you New God). Plus when Robocop shoots the guy looking the other way and sticking his arm out, makes no sense but looked fucking awesome.
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Predator? Maybe not. Then again, you can't skin a robot, can you?
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Only for him to pull out because he's too much of a pussy to tackle and action movie.
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Robocop had Mr V's gut-punching approach to movies in its DNA. I know his US stuff is variable, but this is up with the best. If this shit is remade it will ONLY suffer in comparison. DO NOT REMAKE AUTEURED MOVIES! A strong hand behind the camera is every bit as inimitable as the performance of a mega-star. I mean, it's not like people are stupid enough to try and remake the films of Alfred Hitchcock.... Ummm... Shit.
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The first 3/4 of the movie spent revolving around Murphy's childhood, with the entire plot of the first movie crammed into the last half hour.
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and Robocop 2. The violence was so over-the-top. Perfect example is that boardroom malfunction scene. Not only does that corporate ass-kisser get shot all to fuck with a cannon that could punch a hole in a tank, but after he's dead ED-209 just keeps pounding away at him... but that's how machines SHOULD be, cold and ruthless.
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March 14, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST
"hyper-sensitivity and over-amped political correctness"? Ugh .
by The Wolf at the Door
Just to throw this out there, I really don't buy the whole "oh, our society's gotten too sensitive and PC" line. What the hell is "hyper-sensitive" or "politically correct" about the wave of torture porn we're currently suffering? How about 24? Or Ann Coulter? <p> I'd say in response if anyone is "hyper-sensitive" these days, it's the corporations. All this consolidation of market wealth and media ownership we've seen in the past two decades gives the corporate board room WAY too much power. And you think any of them want a movie that calls out the American Corporation for moral corruption and inhumanity? There's your PC right there. ("Pervasive Corporatism"? Or is that too cute?) <p> Not to go all political rant here, but I tend to think the "PC-police boogeyman" supposedly censoring all of us is really just a strawman distraction when the real problem here is media monopoly. Sorry, but you really can say or do just about anything you want in America ... but if you're expecting the major studios to throw it on screen, you better not breath a negative word against the suits. (If the "PC police" claims a Don Imus every other year or so, you can just hold your breath and he'll be back on the air before you exhale. But a Robocop movie that makes corporate control of public services into the main villain? I wouldn't hold my breath for that.)
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Come on folks...it was only a matter of time that MGM would come round back to RoboCop, and everyone's right here. It's probably going to be a lame ass remake/reimagining. sigh
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WTF!?! Robocop, and yes, Robocop 2 still stands up to current scrutiny. What the hell needs to be updated about either film? Not the special effects. Not the social commentary. If they need to milk this particular cash cow some more, just continue the chronology from the end of the second picture.
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I'm sure he wrote both the Robo sequels?! I can only assume his scripts got basterdised in the process.
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Millers scripts were basically shredded. Avatar comics realized a mini-series titled Frank Millers robocop which was what Miller intended to be the sequel. It was pretty good.
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I don't think the reason a new RoboCop would lack the edge and balls of the first one has to do with the times (or audiences) being especially "politically correct" or sensitive. The reason it won't have any balls or edge will be that entertainment and politics don't get mixed very much anymore. Not because they can't be mixed, but because our entertainment has become more bland and less provocative. I wouldn't blame the audience for being too sissy or soft for it, I would blame the studios for blanching at anything that suggests opinion. (The first RoboCop has a pretty distinct point of view on the subject of privatizing public services.) Maybe that was Merrick's point all along, but I felt like the distinction was important.
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March 14, 2008, 12:22 p.m. CST
I cried when Robocop was taken apart and thrown in street
by donwillymo
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March 14, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST
...also in Short Circuit 2 when they beat J5 w/ crobars
by donwillymo
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MGM has not got a single ORIGINAL project in the works for the rest of the year? <br> <br> Hollywood is getting lazier and lazier every fucking year.
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"Murphy"
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I'd buy that for a...oh fuck it
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You know where this leads, MGM. You may think this can't backfire, but history, and the end of the very film you are remaking, suggests otherwise.
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pokadoo, Frank Miller's original screenplay for Robocop 2 was recently adapted as an 8-issue comic book mini-series. It's been collected as a trade and can be found on Amazon here: http://tinyurl.com/ywgkwa. I have a copy but I haven't read it yet. Has anyone else read it?
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They just said they're continuing the franchise. Hollywood logic dictates that by continue they mean reboot and remake, but we've yet to see that being said though. I'm hoping for (if they must do this) then a Rocky or Rambo like sequal. Years after the first two movies, Robocop is called into action once more. With the big twist in this one being that his son is now some kind of crime lord or something who he must now stop, no matter the cost.
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It was one of those classic movies the result of everything coming together perfectly at just the right time. Director, actors, score composer (Basil's work here is excellent), special effects, shock value, social critique of capitalism, corporate greed, etc., and everything else that went into making this movie a classic. This movie had guts and unfortunately these days very very very few films do or are allowed to. The Robocop movies got progressively worse and if the pattern continues we'll all have to be high on Nuke to enjoy Robocop 4. Haha.
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Wasn't that more or less re-worked into the pilot to the Robocop TV series? Based on that it probably wouldn't have been too great. That said, I think the TV series was the only thing after the first film to actually give some thought to man inside the suit, rather than Robocop just being a walking killing machine like he was in the sequels and Prime Directives.<br><br> Personally I think they should get Weller in the suit and Verhoeven behind the camera again to do one final Robocop story, and have it set further into the future where the possibility exists for medicine to recreate Murphy's body and the struggles Robocop has over whether he can go back to being "human" or not. And whoever scores it needs to extensively crib from Poledouris' magnificent score for the first film.
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March 14, 2008, 12:48 p.m. CST
Zack Snyder, Jean-Pierre Jeunet or Guillerm Del Toro -
by Christopher3
And it could work.
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This is a message to all the lame assed corporate Hollywood executives who can't think of any new ideas and continue to squeeze the life out of pass successes. Go fucking kill yourselves, please do us all a favour and do it quickly before this madness continues to get any worse. * Chomps on cigar * Hey lets remake Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope or the one the fans really liked Episode V The Empire Strikes Back and get Michael Bay to direct it. No wait I have a better idea lets remake Iron-Man and The Dark Knight they haven't even come out yet but I think we can reimagine them for a younger generation.
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He should be the only one to direct. Irvin Kershner was AWESOME for pt 2, but it suffered from lack of Verhoeven-esque satire.<br><br>Robocop is rebuilt in the future, and has to use his "TJ Laser" skillz to help a band of rouge lawmen take back the city from the fist of Corporate greed. <br><br>And if this bitch doesn't begin with a News Broadcast, count me OUT
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...sometimes I feel like Ted Danson's character in Creepshow yelling "STOP IT! STOP IT! STOP IT!", except instead of being buried up to my neck in sand and the approaching tide coming in, it's shit and the encroaching flood of asstastic remake after remake. Jesus, can anyone really fathom how awful a RoboCop reimagining will be in this day and age? Holy shit! <p> The fact that the studio considers the Pink Panther a "tentpole" franchise is enough to make me weep in despair over the state of affairs. <p> I will NOT be buying this for a dollar.
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and as Ken Russell called it "the most important science-fiction movie since Metropolis". There should never have been any sequels or TV series. It was perfected first time round.
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March 14, 2008, 1:09 p.m. CST
Hollywood Producers Give Your Writers Something Special To Do!
by PITCHPERFECT
I thought the writers strike had ended? Don't they want the writers to come up with something new and refreshing using their talents & skills of wordsmanship? Any fucking fan fiction kid on the internet can re-write a previous story from a movie.
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I've always wanted to see Robocop rebooted for 2 reasons only: 1) Correct all the mistakes made with Robocop 2 & 3, Robocop: The Series, and the handful of Canadian produced tv movies. 2) Add a storyline that allows Peter Weller to return AS "MURPHY" -- maybe modern technology allows him the option of having a human body again and in the transition, trains a new batch of modern OCP fighters. On a side note: I would like to see Nancy Allen back as well and turn ED-209 into a comic relief sidekick, a true ally to Robocop!
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...and someone comparable to Verhoeven - as for the script, even that Terminator crossover Dark Horse did was cool back in the 80's... But Bottin must rebuild Robo in all his glory!
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Wait a minute. No I wouldn't. Fuck you, Hollywood.
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Right now, at this very moment, Harlan Ellison is all wound up about something.
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at the drive-thru. What a fucking great pairing.
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Man i fucking love Robocop, they just showed 1 and 2.....and 3 on Universal HD a couple of months ago. Fucking awesome. I got the 3-D MacFarlane Toys poster hanging in my office. I look at it all the time and its sooo bad ass. MacFarlane needs to make a lot more of these. And for some better movies. Like godfater cool poster and all but not 3-D cool. I want to get all of them. Fuck this remake by the way as well. Yeah without Verhoeven whatever, but without Weller, I ain't havin none of it.
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exactly what i've been thinking. well said
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A cop, who is in the National Guard, gets sent to Iraq and is blown up by an IED. The federal government rebulds him with new technology and sends him back to Iraq to finish the job. Little does he know that the evil corporation Haleyburt has programmed another directive in his brain. Stars Christian Bale as Robocop, Liam Neeson as Dick Jones (in charge of Haleyburt), and a cameo by Peter Weller as the National Guard Commander.
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March 14, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST
Terminator 4: Rosencrantz and Guildenstern Are Terminated
by manicart1
As long as they ignore the dirty, dirty sack of balls that was Robocop 3 and that elephants abortion of a tv series then we're cool. And they must not under any circumstances make this thing a 12 or PG13 rated film-- the first two films were shockingly violent and all the better for it.
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According to a site called The Z Review in the UK, Outer Limits is to be directed by Rupert Wainwright ("The Fog"). The script is being written by David Weisberg and Douglas Cook ("The Rock") A release date is not known, and no word on the cast.
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Amen brother. And can you do a brother a solid and slip me a copy of that Robo 2 script. Drop me a line- voval at hotmail.com
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...looking gigantic on the wall, dwarfing the thug (and woman) in front of it? That short and simple scene is something very memorable. And when a director's artistic eye can blend interesting camera angles while utilizing shadows and silhouettes, in addition to the action and movement within a story, we can be quite surprised by the results. BATMAN and the PUNISHER are two characters that just SCRRREEEAM for such visual impact. Unfortunately, I'm still waiting for a director to take full advantage of the visual power that such characters offer.
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You are right, of course. I've also been watching Wall Street and man, what I wouldn't give to be Gordon Gecko. Except I'd tell the lawyers to keep ziplock lips on the Blue Star deal, especially in front of the guy I'm screwing. What a buncha idiots.
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The TV programming in Robocop is LESS ludicrous than some of the shit on any of the major networks. Mostly Fox, but none of them are innocent. Instead of one OCP, we have hundreds of OCPs. All fucking over the citizenry.
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Yup. I said it, and YOU want it. You know you do, because I want to see that bad mofo!
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He has the perfect chin!
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What are they going to do, satirize Enron and the Iraq War? Like thousands of people haven't done that already.
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Actually, I thought the Frank Miller Robocop comic (which was supposedly what he wanted to do with the sequel) was utter crap. <p>On the other hand, how about Peter Greene (Zed from Pulp Fiction) to step into the suit - he's practically Weller's long-lost twin brother. <p>Actually, how about Greene as a re-cast Buckaroo while we're at it?
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...is that wer suddenly get all our 80s stuff back! BRING IT ON!!!!
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Enough of that ancient China movie!
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All of the time...
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He puts me to sleep.
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I've never read anything he's written that wasn't terrible.
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Not even the man who directed THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK and the man who wrote THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS could come up with a decent sequel so I have doubts of a good Robocop movie being done again.
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You know you want it.
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Top Gun? Flashdance? Footloose? Risky Business? Fast Times? Porkys?
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The whole movie is just us watching people as they view the trailer for this horribly bad idea.
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Cause I wouldn't buy that for a dollar
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best line ever
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The only way you can continue or reboot a popular franchise 20 years later is to have a superior director and a superior script. Hell, even Verhoven may not be able to do it justice after 20 years... They should just leave this franchise alone. Robo1 was great, Robo2 was entertaining and the rest was dreck. The only way I can see continuing Robocop is to: 1) place it 40-60 years in future 2) Have whatever foreshadowed diasters (now) happen 3) Have whatver surviving cities remade as corporations who offer protection from the outside world but at the cost of personal liberties (sorta-kinda Hopper/Pittsburgh-Emerald Tower in LOTD) Maybe then, they might use Murphy as a template or just a law enforcer who tries to keep down insurgents or outsiders. He discovers his humanity and fights against his programmers....
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I read Frank Miller's robocop last year. It's not that different from the movie. They just traded the Nuke plot for one about OCP relocation teams. Even the fake commercials are the same. Final verdict, unimpressive.
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...The world right now is ripe for another Robocop satire. Wether they will go that way remains to be seen. Perhaps its just a remake. I really cant imagine them going the way of the Television series of part 3, since they were financially pretty shocking anyway. While I don't feel excited about this, I'm not negatively inclined, because I think the themes and ideas present in the original would work just aswell, if not better, in a bush/post bush environment.
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Remember part 3? we can only IMPROVE from there...assuming this is a sequel.
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Stay away crazy man. Frank Miller already took a steaming shit on this franchise twice.
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March 14, 2008, 3:26 p.m. CST
ROBOCOP: BIOGENESIS written by Kurtzman and Orci and directed by
by Darth_Inedible
They should show Robocop being built at area 51 by guys with arc welders. I've always had a hard time buying into the Robocop mythos but with a more grounded reboot the concept might work.
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Now im a huge fan of the Robocop movies...the idea of a remake...I just dont know. Like what has been said, you cant really remake robocop, it came out at the perfect time and stood out...at the moment id prefer it if we were given a robo 4, but would still be excited even if a remake was to happen, be interesting to see what they do.
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And the whole thing is a Rated G kid's movie!
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I truly don't understand the hate vomited on both of these sequels, especially where Predator 2 is concerned. I thought predator 2 did everything a good sequel was supposed to do: provided more of the same of what was loved about the original, while not reguritating what was already done and adding new settings, plots, and characters. The opening sequence with the fire fight between the columbians and the police was broken. Harrigan was a bad ass. The predator was obviously a young buck who brought all his cool gear with him, as opposed to the grizzled veteran who was "toughing it" in the original. The worst crime that Robocop 2 should go to movie jail for was an unremarkable music score, which can change the enjoyment level of a movie bigtime.
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it'll end up being a sequel where his son eventually gets hurt somehow and becomes the new robocop. but because they wanna be hip and cool, he wont even look like a robot or cyborg or whatever u called daddy. it'll be like bionic woman, totally human looking but with robotic parts underneath. it'll be awesome.
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...Didn't have Arnie. The whole "urban jungle" approach was novel, but maybe didn't click for some people. The director just wasn't up to the task for most of it, and he had just as interesting a cast to work with. The final chase in the film was fucking fantastic, but the conclusion was strange and flat. Robocop 2 was just a different beast from the original. It was an action comedy. Not a satire. It had moments that were satirical, but it decided to mostly go with vulgarity and cheap offensiveness instead. I thought it did those things as well as you could though. But also, it had an odd, sudden and flat ending. I didn't dislike either film though. In fact, I thought they were pretty solid. Shit, put Robo 2 next to Robo 3 and its a masterpiece.
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FLYING RoboCop!fuck that shit!
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March 14, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST
Eddie Murphy is Robocop, Dick Jones, Clarence, and Officer Lewis
by bobinnova
Just like Oscar-nominated Norbit
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Get Verhoven and Neumeier on this, or a team with a similar vision, or don't bother.
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Greatest line of dialogue ever. Well, not really, but I love that part.
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The first R movie I ever saw in the theater was Robocop. For whatever reason, I was able to sneak in and see this baby on the big screen. It blew me away. The crazy thing is that I feel the film still stands up to this day. The story, the fucked up characters and I absolutely love the stop-motion animation for ED-209. My buddy downloaded this and every now and then we'll get wasted and watch this. The more I think about how freaking awesome the first Robocop was, the more I hope they don't remake it.
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the first Robocop is on my top 10 list. It's right behind Die Hard, Batman and Ghostbusters as one of the best movies ever made. I hope they don't fuck it up. But at this point, I'm used to it.
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They fix everything.
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Its a very subversive movie, a movie which openly mocks right-wing corporate hegemony and corruption. And the best way to do that? Ultra-violence. Verhoven and Neumeier pulled a similar trick with Starship Troopers, although in that film they were satirizing US foreign policy and inevitable slip into fascism, which, sadly, turned out to be pretty dead-on.
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and it propper fucked my head up! What do kids these days have that compares to the FUCKin Hell!!! Awesomeness of stuff like Robocop, Predator and the original DieHard!<P>I know nostalgia's a rose tinted thing but I think in the case of Robocop you will never equal the visceral Kneecapping that movie gives your braincells! specially if you did Ed 209 in CG! a remake is inevitable but so fucking wrong!
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"Shia Lebouf." ......You KNOW it'll happen.
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He lives in the unit above mine... gets up for work at 4:30 every morning *stamp* *stamp* *stamp* *stamp*
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No more Robocops, please. The first one was great. Unless they do it as a sequel with Peter Weller (and pretend the second one didn't happen). This one can focus on the human portion of Robocop deteriorating and going senile. The old Robocop eventually goes on a rampage when they try to put him in a retirement home, and the only thing that can stop him is a new Robocop - a young Tobey Maguire that's critically injured by the old Robocop. The new Robocop can transform into vehicles, fire hydrants, and even sexual toys. But can all his new-fangled technology overcome the wisdom of senile Robocop?
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Didn't see anything about a remake.
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- Clarence Boddicker, 1987
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I dont care what he does, he better be in it. Peter Weller made that movie halfway beliveable.
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Rob Schneider- Robocop Rob Petrie- Joke Writer And introducing- Rob My Wallet of more cash. Just think.. Robocop was once white trash married to his cousin until a horrific still explosion.....
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is a constant reminder of how shitty today's movies are. ROBOCOP is an awesome movie. Certainly a Sci-Fi classic, definitely an Action classic, and maybe a classic regardless of genre. What genre films of the last 10 years will be classics? THE MATRIX and.............? <p> And how many times do they need to remake a classic to know that IT CAN'T BE DONE? All-time great films are an impossible alchemy of the right story, the right director, the right actors, the right composer, and so on and so on. It's impossible to repeat
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"I liiike it!!"
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March 14, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST
I bet you think you're pretty smart, Mr Studio Exec
by Twisted Knacker
Think you can outsmart a bullet?
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Clarence Boddicker is definitely one of the greatest bad guys of all time. And if these money grubbing yahoos actually remake ROBOCOP, they deserve a little state of the art bang-bang to the face.
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This thing is pretty detailed, I guess one of the reasons they didnt go with it is it was a rough draft and there were time constraints. http://robocoparchive.com/archive/feature-robocop2-cw.htm
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Trump tries to fire Robocop, but Robocop take sout the TRASH!
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for the late Reagan years of yuppies destroying each other, and private companies taking over good and services. The feud between the Ronnie Cox and Miguel Ferrer characters, is one of my favorite aspects of the original.
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Although I get a kick out of that movie for the nostalgia factor, it doesn't really hold up as well as say, BIG TROUBLE IN LITTLE CHINA. However, the "meta" that surrounds it (i.e. Hong Kong Cavaliers, Blue Blaze Irregulars, Hanoi Xan, Perfect Tommy, Big Norse, etc.) is pretty damn funny. Methinks more so than the actual movie.
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Although not my cup of tea, there was this little Lord Of The Rings trilogy that could be called classic.
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- C. Boddicker, 1987
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"I will contact a rape crisis center."
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The original writers rewrote it as the pilot for the TV show. The new Robocop will be hardcore, stop dissing unless you have seeing.
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March 14, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST
Let The New Robocop Movie Go Or There Will Be Trouble!
by PITCHPERFECT
Yes Hollywood why don't you remake Predator while you're at it...only with smart arsed kids who have knowledge of science fiction films and claimed George Lucas raped their childhoods. They could get out of dangerous situations in the film using text messaging on their cell phones( mobiles ) The younger audiences will love it. Maybe they assemble an army and join forces using podcasts, YouTube MySpace & Facebook, to defeat the Predator. Yes I think it will be a winner. Is Rob Zombie available to direct it? Fill the soundtrack with lots of death metal or whatever kids call it today. Oh yes! Ya gotta have a famous rapper or R&B star in the film. Does 50 Cent or Nelly have some space free in the next few months? Woahhh! One more thing...what if we show the Predators torturing the captured nerdy kid or the black kid in a torture dungeon? It could be like the Saw movies only science fiction. Yes we're onto a winner here.
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tonight! And I never miss a game."
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Will be Rob Zombie, then Robo shoots Brett Ratner, and Len Wiseman. The movie will be directed by Harry KNowles.
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coming from the Detroit area, is the opening credit fly-over of downtown Detroit has got to be some old footage. The Ren Center was built in the mid-70s and didn't exist in the opening.
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"Now it's time to erase that mistake." Sounds like somebodys about to make another mistake.
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Since we're quoting the movie, I'll quote my favorite line.
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you missed one......
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THE LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy certainly SHOULD be a classic, but I have a feeling that they won't end up that way. I guess we'll find out in 20 years. I think Peter Jackson is a good filmmaker, but that he only did a good job with a brilliant story. Kind of how it works with a great joke. A joke that anyone can tell and get a guaranteed laugh, but if someone truly funny says it then it's even funnier.
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just stop. Nobody cares. Seriously, I could read your 1 post out of 1000 and even if the usernames weren't shown I would know which was yours.
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Than Bob Morton doing coke off of a hooker's tits. Spitzer has nothing on my man Bob!
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As was the wonderful jab at technology where its weakness was stairs...
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Peter Weller was terrific as Murphy, of course, because he's a great "mask actor" (that's actually an acting technique). But so is Hugo Weaving -- as he proved in V FOR VENDETTA (in fact I think he's the only reason that film worked at all). <br><br> And no matter how much Weller says he'd never come back ... I'll bet he'd come back if the suit were redesigned, and if Verhoeven asked him to. But first you'd have to get Verhoeven on board, and why would he come back to work in America at this point? He's having too much fun doing stuff like BLACK BOOK, which I thought rocked. <br><br> If you couldn't get Verhoeven, I think Zack Snyder wouldn't embarrass himself; that's worth a try. But you'd better get someone halfway hardcore on it pronto. Because otherwise, in a few years, you're gonna get some horrible crossover piece of junk like ROBOCOP ACADEMY 5. Don't you just know it!
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<p>I love the original, but I always wondered what it would be like if they completely lost the campy humor and made it even darker. Something delving deeper into the "what is the value of a life \ corporate slavery via technology" dark dreary mind fuck that ends with Murphy killing everyone at OCP that resurrected him and offing himself at the end. It'd be a serious downer, but interesting.</p><p>Unfortunately, we'll probably get a Ben Stiller & Micheal Bay PG-13 monstrosity.</p>
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Loved Kurtwood Smith in Robocop. So many great lines. <p> "Cobra assault rifle, state of the art bang, bang" "Bitches, leave" "Gimme my fuckin' phone call". "Guns, guns ,guns". <p> Best villian of all time, would squash Darth Vader and Dr. Lector the same way he did Officer Murphy.
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I loved the youtube-clip. It is a great satire disguised as a good actionmovie - exactly like Starship Troopers. Good stuff, sitting perferctley on the shelf.
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Had days like this.
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and having only remakes to choose from. We're not that far off from that depressing reality.
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Total Recall was of course Verhoeven's next... both came out in 1990 & both pleased, err, shocked me with their incredible disregard for human life. Bystanders were mown down by the dozen in action scenes that made no attempt to depict their senseless deaths as anything other than exciting. But although Robocop 2 had a higher body count (just how many people did Cane kill in the final fight?), it was Verhoeven who raised the violence to such an extreme level that it just had to be more of his coy satire: Arnold picking up that machine-gunned bystander on the escalator and using him to catch bullets - first from below, then above, then below again - is still one of the most outrageous acts of movie violence I have ever seen. Bravo! Meanwhile, there Robocop 2 was, the sequel in the franchise he left behind, serving as a perfect unironic example of extreme action movie violence. I liked Robocop 2 a lot, though; great action movie. I'm glad we don't have companies like OCP in the real world today (*cough* Blackwater *cough* Infragard).
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I'm all too happy to share my opinion and thoughts, just like (and unlike) my fellow talkbackers. And you act like it's nearly impossible for Hollywood to make a great movie, these days. But it's not. It's just really, really hard. :-D
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RoboCop was ahead of its time in more ways than one. What other originally X-rated films ultimately spawned a kid-friendly TV series? The recent spate of watered-down PG-13 action/horror crap was foretold by RoboCop 3 way back in 1993. Anyone who claims to be remaking/rebooting RoboCop needs to say which RoboCop they have in mind.
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Robocop 2 and 3 were written by comic book scribe Frank Miller! That being said, here are some more movies that need a reboot: 1. Short Circuit 2. Mannequin 3. Red Dawn 4. Iron Eagle 5. Howard the Duck
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fucking idiots.
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not gonna happen ever. too good to be true.
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Like Robocop are classic. Unlike Batman, where even in the comics there are hundreds of variations of the character, Robocop is definitive. There is absolutely nothing like that movie around. It would be like remaking Star Wars or Indiana Jones. It just wouldn't make sense.
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I'm most interested in the Outer Limits tidbit and I wonder how it will be done. In my most fun daydream outcome, a selection of adaptations of classic science fiction short-stories will be shown, including Cordwainer Smith's "Scanners Live in Vain." Although I don't suppose it's really likely.
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Kurtwood Smith gave the best delivered line in the history of film. PS. Fuck this CJ7 shit.
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Really-- He was the only reason the first one was any good (And it is very good. It's great social satire.) Without his unique voice, Robocop is a rather stupid premise. <p> I can imagine the remake will have all sorts of pop and rap music tied-in for the soundtrack, and will star a bunch of 20-somethings because, from the way movies look today, there are no protagonists over 28 years old. <p> And Robocop will have a MySpace page.
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no....he couldn't
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Like "Funny Games" for example? All there is are a bunch of second hand news tid-bits served up unceremoniously by Merrick. Its like the family business is being run by the youngest, not-too-swift, son.
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"...by showcasing the staggering fact that an entire mega-million-dollar corporation cannot come up with one original idea. We are proud of this fact and will continue to speak of it in public-relations-massaged soulless terms without respite. Thank you, and please step aside while we raid your fond memories of the past for more make-a-quick-buck fodder."
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No matter what that man is in, he PWNS IT ALL!!! No Ronnie Cox . . . NO DEAL!!!
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....Theres like 5 Sarah Marshall reviews on the front page. The monst anticpiated film since The Phantom Menace.
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Didn't Miller write the script and they got raped? Everything he touches today turns into gold now a days. There is no reason you can't do it right this time.
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Not bad. I still get a kick out of Iron eagle II....Chasing the Angels!!!!!!! Still a cool song!
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March 14, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST
Just pick the Right Targets........
by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder
C'mon. Who here WOULDN'T like to see a Robocop blast the livin'fuck outta the future equivilents of American Idol, Microsoft and Scientology?
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...Halleburton and the bushy family. Which is what he would be doing, if it were following the spirit of the original.
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That's like remaking Terminator or Alien. When the bar's been set that high you have no where to go but down.
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Resurrection not re-make...jumped the gun on that one.
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to those blissful years when I was completely ignorant to Robocop 3's existence. I lost a bit of my innocence the day I watched it. I was horrified, raped... anally....
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The only way this would work is if they stay close to the original concept/story and its a sequel not remake..If they trying to make some piece of crap I-Robot robocop then just give up now..especially if you dont have Verhoven. I dont see why hed even want to make remake, itd be an insult..Itd be like John carpenter remaking his own halloween. RObocop 1&2 Are genius !
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That would rule, man.
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Spit.
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March 14, 2008, 9:12 p.m. CST
What other originally X-rated films ultimately spawned a kid-fri
by Shan
Closest thing I can think of was the Toxic Avenger leading to an animated series.
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Robocop: Dick Jones you are under arrest for cutting off my balls. Dick Jones: Now wait a damn minute. I made you boy! I can get your balls back! Let's be reasonable about this! We can make a deal! I can get you some balls! Some big shiney ones! Hell I can give you a cock that would make a elephant envious! Just give me a break! Robocop: A cock the size of an elephant? Dick Jones? YES!!! RoboCop: I'd buy that for a dollar!
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Hugo Weaving could pull it off, and could possibly be made to resemble Weller as Murphy. He has the acting chops, definitely... <p> However, I do like continuity, personally, and would really only prefer Weller to play Robocop. If not, then I would just as soon not see the film be made at all. Of course, that just my humble opinion...
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"Robocop? More like Robo-DUMBASS!"
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The greatest trip I ever took to a video store was when my buddy and I had his mom rent Predator and Robocop one weekend, having never seen either. We would watch one while the other rewound and then start all over again. Without Verhoven this is nothing. Without Charlie Bronson swinging a sock full of nickels, Deathwish is nothing. Apparently, without their archives and past box office reports, MGM's accquisitions department is nothing...
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I think he would be kinda cool in the part.
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I'd pay to see that... or Terminator... I have the first comic, wonder how that ends...
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C'mon, we can all agree on that one and Keanu Reeves needs work...
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The Las Vegas guy.
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Fashion police division.
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I've abandoned my post!!! I've abandoned my duty!!!!!!!
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The Tigers play tonight!...and I never miss a game.
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March 14, 2008, 11:33 p.m. CST
DUDE ... I *KNEW* SOMEONE WAS GONNA REGISTER "CLARENCE BODDICKER
by BringingSexyBack
for an AICN name. Now where's Officer Murphy and Dick Jones?
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His robotic movements were totally off in the sequels. But he was perfect in the original, in the way he moved. Flawless. I thought they chopped him up and actually made him a robot.
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<lovingly caresses grenade pin with tongue> ...my GOD the shear majesty of it all! We'll never see a movie villain that bad ass again...
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http://tinyurl.com/2feysj
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Without even hesitating. Who knew a guy named Clarence could be so pimp?
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ALL BLACK. THEY WERE SO GANGSTER
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Ok, I'm done...this triple dose of quotes has me positively glowing inside. Sexy, I'm gonna have to go and blow the dust off my VHS copy of Robocop now. Dammit, I hope my VCR still works...otherwise I may have to invest in a dvd copy. heh...well at least the robocop lore was wrong about one thing...I haven't had to pay eight bucks for a can of coke yet.
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"our age of hyper-sensitivity and over-amped political correctness would never allow it." Are you fucking serious? We live in the torture porn era and you think that we are too politically correct- for what, exactly? A guy getting shot by a Robot? Oh, maybe the guy getting covered in toxic waste? Americans love violence, always have, always will. You better watch out, though, because if there is a nipple slip it may be rated NC-17. The movie will probably be mass market garbage, but because of soulless capitalist reasons (ie the PG-13 money) rather than some great need for political correctness. For fuck's sake.
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"I seem to be having trouble...brother!"
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Judge Dredd anyway, so fair game I guess.
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they'll fuck it up unless its hardcore and funny.. simple as that
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Something with reclining leather seats, that goes really fast and gets really shitty gas mileage".Robocop was the first VHS tape I never took back,although I still feel guilty now,it just had to be done.
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"Does it come with cruise control?"
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Clarence Boddeker is my personal favorite coked out nihilist bad guy. Whatever this new movie turns out to be, I doubt it will feature as creepy and disturbing and awesome bad guy as him. Isn't it weird how hardcore and effed up 80s cinema turned out to be? ROBOCOP is hardcore hard R violence and really smart satire all the way through. Only "indie" movie can get away with that now... perhaps this new ROBOCOP will be angled towards indie exploitation?
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"Good night."
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"You pick the heart!"
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March 15, 2008, 2:12 a.m. CST
If Verhoven Is Unavailable, TAKASHII MIIIKE TO DIRECT!!!
by LaserPants
I think he's the only other guy on earth that could pull it off. Who else is transgressive enough and has the chops to do a mainstream movie? Eli Roth? Nah. His ship has sailed. Tarantino? Nah. He's busy smoking weed, uh, I mean, writing INGLORIOUS BASTARDS. Rodriquez? Nah. I love his work, especially the recent insane-o stuff like Sin City and Planet Terror, but he's not a subversive subtext guy. Who? Who can make this film? Who can give us the hard-R violence AND intelligent satire? Are there any cool directors left?
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Best line.
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the ones with peter sellers rite?
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Cain is such a fucking awesome bad guy. it's weird Robocop 1 and 2 had such awesome bad guys.
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Or I will not see it. It'd be like Lucas having nothing to do with a Star Wars film. Oh wait...
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You know what could be cool ? That they bring back Peter Weller, and make Robocop not shiny and flashy in his armor, but totally cracked, dented and malfunctioning. I would pay to see an antique machine wading thru today's corporate world, kicking the shit out of the suits !
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They learned their lesson with Robocop 3 and the crap TV stuff (which was written by the original writers, and was crap btw)
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March 15, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST
no one had better fuckin touch Predator
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
and stay the fuck away from my fucking Robocop. These movies are fucking classics. Quick, lets remake Bridge On the River Quai. We can have Ewen McGregor as Guiness and the bridge explosion goes for 25 minutes.
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March 15, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST
no one had better fuckin touch Predator
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
and stay the fuck away from my fucking Robocop. These movies are fucking classics. Quick, lets remake Bridge On the River Quai. We can have Ewen McGregor as Guiness and the bridge explosion goes for 25 minutes.
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"Liam Neeson as Dick Jones (in charge of Haleyburt), and a cameo by Peter Weller as the National Guard Commander." Hell, if its a remake, I say have Peter Weller play Dick Jones. Did you see him on "Star Trek Enterprise?" But IMO, having him play Robocop would be better. He's still skinny.
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yay!
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March 15, 2008, 6:56 a.m. CST
Yes I meant a remake. Greatest action cast EVER
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
I'm gonna have me some fun.
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March 15, 2008, 6:57 a.m. CST
Fuck...just realised I spelt Kwai all fucked up.
by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks
Sorry bout that!
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Hehehehehe!<p>Now, if they can't get Verhoeven to direct ROBOCOP 4 and instead do a PG-13 remake directed by The Strause Brothers/Paul W.S. Anderson/Len Wiseman/Brett Ratner/insert-hack-here, then I will be angry. Very very angry...
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...trouble.
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Remake The Thing and An American Werewolf! and re-boot Die-Hard why dontcha Ya Wankers,!
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Sorry, I couldn't resist -- it's hilarious that way!
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March 15, 2008, 8:21 a.m. CST
I wouldn't mind if it were an actual robot, in a police uniform.
by ironic_name
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Do it....I'd love to see what could be done nowadays with practical effects. Fuck the CGI-ified sequel, that looks more dated now than the original does. Jenny Agutter had a kid by David, who when he hits 18 becomes a werewolf. Some nice gory deaths, creepy fucked up dreams with his dad visiting him etc. Gold, or not as the case.......is.
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The only bit of late 80's early 90's badassness that comes close to that is Ronny Cox's speech in Total Recall, right before he was going to scramble Melina's brains. "She will obedient and subservient, like a woman should be". Amen, brother!
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They should reserect ED-209! I like the idea of him being a ruthless sidekick:) Or hell, I don't care if he's a villian. Aslong as we see him doing what E-209 does best.
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The brutal mean-spiritedness of Robocop 2 was a big part of why the franchise dwindled. It was so far in one direction when the character was becoming a kid-franchise character with toys and cartoons that they went and neutered the franchise in later incarnations. There has to be a balance. Also I humbly submit that the original Bladerunner-esque setting that was intended is very crucial to setting things apart from the lame lame LAME movies that have come out since Robocop 2 (which at least had a hell of a cool answer to the ED-209 in "Rococop 2"), so long as it doesn't come with a Judge Dredd Stallone crapiness. Also I liked the Mr. Burns quality of The Old Man in Robocop 2, and I was sorry it was never revisited again.
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Scarlet Johannson or Jessica Alba as the lead star
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why the heck don't they get it over with, aren't Schwarzenegger and Weller golf partners or something too?
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March 15, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST
Open Your History Text To Pg. 35 Or There Will Be... Trouble
by LaserPants
ROBOHISTORYPROFESSOR!
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Will always be Robocop to me!
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With all the horror porn (hostal) out there now, I don't think anything is off limits really.
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Weller never got the final act of the trilogy, they should bring Verhoeven back and complete it with Peter Weller. I know Verhoeven is 200% for it.
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March 15, 2008, 1:43 p.m. CST
I remember Robocop back in the day when he was originally..
by Stalkeye
Judge Dredd or Deathlok.
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"..I'm not arresting you anymore.." Fucking brilliant. Verhooven is (still) da man!
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Come on, the noses on those 2 are almost identical:)-
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"You're going to be a bad motherfucker," Robo- hand me my wallet. Tim Roth/Pumpkin(or was he honey bunny)-which one is it? It's the one that says "bad motherfucker."
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Grammaton Cleric Murphy.
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I'd definitely list Judge Dredd as an inspiration for Robocop, but the other heavy influence has to be Frank Miller's "Dark Knight Returns." The news spots as social commentary, a decaying metropolis, the 70's cinema Death Wish/Taxi Driver style intro to the main character character, pulling bad guys through walls....started (in a way) with Dark Knight Returns.
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And how is PG-13 RoboCop worse than no RoboCop?
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I! AM! ROBOCOP!!
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that line should be in any "Robo-Cop" movie
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Can I get a Blood Sport 2 with Tony Jaa for christ sake?
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It's time for Robocop again.
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Where the one dude is like "We'll sue your ass!" and the other guy is like "Give it your best shot!" and then the black dude goes ape shit and says "BULLSHIT! THIS IS BULLSHIT! YOU SENILE OLD BASTARD!". God, I love that bit!
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http://tinyurl.com/2q5taf
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The 2000ad character, that is, not the awful Stallone film. If Hollywood is that desperate to reboot a franchise, why not have another go at Dredd? Do it properly this time, though. No Sly, no comedy sidekick and definitely NO removing the lid!
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is that the black dude having the hissy fit was the mayor of Detroit. The dude was havinga total breakdown because OCP basically owned him and the city. That's what made it so funny. Then he had this lame-ass fundraiser to save the city, and one of the stars was playing Born to Be Wild on a violin while doing yoga, and they had only earned a few cents or something ridiculous like that.
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I can pretend that none of the Robocop fims or TV series hsppened after the first movie. Bring it on!! If they can make SAW and that shit. They can make Robocop as hard as nails. As long as they don't aim for PG
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If Cameron does it I will definitely postpone sex at the playboy mansion. Heavy metal, miniatures, great dialogue and no CGI. bUT THAT'S JUST A WET DREAM. PS. Blood Sort 2 Tony Jaa. Tell a coke head to tell a coke head, we need that.
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Hiphop has "no-homo". Bloggers have no typo.
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... would indeed make a hell of a good movie. It's nowhere near as terrible as it sounds (and after those shitty AVP movies I can certainly understand any scepticism). Read the comic. Frank Miller knows what he's doing. Fat chance of it happening, though. Not with the new McGerminator movie in the works.
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He deserves his own flick
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call it 'Robocops' This time it's war<p>80's nirvana is complete.
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The Asian remake.
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'Cause the only way the studio would greenlight this is if they thought they could make a shitload from the merchandising. "Non-violently restrained or alive, you're coming with me." doesn't have quite the same ring does it?
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on the same level as movie gems like Police Academy 7, Delta Force 3 and American Ninja 4.
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For the most part after seeing the first movie, all I can think of was Judge Dredd meets Deathlok.<p>It's quite obvious that the cyborg findig his humanity in a dysotopian future was influenced by Marvel's Deathlok the Demolisher.As much as I loved the first Robocop, I was pissed that one of my comic based icons never made it to the big scree.A Deathlok movie would kill, but too many of the "uninitiated" would accuse Deathlok of being a ripoff of Robocop.<p>Ed 209 was inspired from the Robotech mecha,so would it be far fetched that the name Robocop came said Anime?
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...zip this up?
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..the idea of a pissed off Robocop calmly walking toward an unarmed Bodicker (after all the shit that he done to him.)saing "I'm not arresting you anymore.." was fucking hilarious.<p> No arrest,no court docket but instead, good ol fashion justice.Verhooven refered to that scene as Robocop being "A American Jesus". The imagination on that guy's mind I tell ya.<p> What's funny is how an independent scifi like Equilibrium easily outclasses the big budgeted bomb that was Judge Dredd.A Dredd remake should be done,and this time without Stallone.
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*throatstab*
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I was there to pick it up.<p> - Too bad about Kinney, huh?<p> - That's life in the big city.
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Robocop cost $13 million to make and looked far better than that awful Judge Dredd movie with Stallone which cost about $75-90 million. Insane. Where did all the money went? The fx looked like shit, even back then.
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Serve the public trust, protect the innocent, uphold the law.
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...You have 20 seconds to comply.
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15 seconds to comply.
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1.13, Section 9. You have 5 seconds to comply.
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Let's have a proper, faithful version of Judge Dredd. Anderson! The Four Dark Judges! Chopper! Hell yeah!
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I am now authorized to use physical force! <p>*shreds-Kinney-to-pieces*
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EQUILIBRIUM? That movie fucking SUCKS! Who are you, Kurt Wimmer? If so, your movies are shit.
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Nah, but could you imagine? Mass audiences would be like, "Huh? Who? That guy from that 70s Show?. Wtf?" I think its time to make "Bitches, Leave" the new ultimate thing to say on the internets. Or not.
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But it wanted soooo badly to be edgy and intellectual, but came off kinda dumb. Still I liked some of the bizarre, semi-campy gun-kata stuff. Was that the same dude who made Ultraviolet? 'Cause that straight up SUCKED.
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That is just too funny. I guess they really can find archivists for anything...
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I told him that his "approach" to the Robocop series sucked. Heavily.
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'cause he's not dumb :-D
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as is Michael Bay?
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I keep coming back until someone REMEMBERS seeing Richie!
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RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! RINO! ....damn, I'm lonely...
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Regardless of what you may think, Equilibrium was a good scifi film,not only better than that mess called Dredd, but even that last wretched Matrix sequel.<p>The message was obviously about how shit can get out of hand with too much government intervention in which personal freedoms are sacrificed. (I.E. art, emotions and the like.) Fer instance look how Hilary wanted to regulae videogames, same as defunct Gov. Shitzer what'fuckin' next?<p> and yes the Gun kata scnes helped as well. No I'm not Kurt but I do agree with the other poster that Ultraviolent sucked royally.
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CAIN. Lets step outside.
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"The predator was obviously a young buck who brought all his cool gear with him, as opposed to the grizzled veteran who was "toughing it" in the original." That's a good way to put it, i always wondered about the differences between the two predators, the first one seemed more of an actual hunter while the 2nd one was more of a warrior-type. Of course both had both qualities in them. I wonder about other differences between the two.
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The only new item on that fucking list is "The Hobbit" and whatever convoluted, hackneyed James Bond flick they manage to cobble together. Other than that, it's ALL REMAKES. <p> Is MGM so pathetic that they cannot make decent movies out of the bajillion cool scripts out there, or is it that WGA writers are such hacks that they can only crank out remakes? <p> What's the deal here? How about a new movie, MGM?
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Look out!
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March 16, 2008, 9:41 p.m. CST
LaserPants, I'll agree with you on Ultraviolet
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
I think I saw maybe 15 minutes of that and turned it off. A shame really considering how great Equilibrium was. You say retarded, I obviously disagree, but I'm not going to have a hissy fit because you're insulting one of my favorites of all time. You too one9deuce.
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mention Equilibrium then others bring it up. Oooh I get that warm fuzzy feeling because the chosen know the truth of how great it is. Thanks BSB and Stalkeye.
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Roomba loses due to inability to navigate stairs.
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It's Lobo going after the bastiches at OCP.
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March 16, 2008, 9:46 p.m. CST
ED 209 couldn't handle a flight of stairs either
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
if you recall.
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March 16, 2008, 9:48 p.m. CST
THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD AND EQUILIBRIUM IS HIS MESSENGER
by BringingSexyBack
See scene at 1:12:27 for secret subliminal message.
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March 16, 2008, 9:50 p.m. CST
Is that really there? Probably, I am ashamed
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
to admit I don't own the DVD. Stupid video feed on the tv is broken so the player doesn't work. No point in buyings a DVD that's going to be a coaster until it's fixed.
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We have to create some secrets and rituals to build up the Equlibrium cult. We also need a secret handshake ...
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you DO talk about Equilibrium Club. That's how Cobra_Kai found out it exists in the dojo.
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... of the anticipation that Iron Man will do well. Hollywood is full of copycats, coattail riders and ass kissers.
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I enjoyed Equilibrium a lot and just couldn't believe how awful Ultraviolet was. I liked the trailer but the final movie was almost unwatchable. What the hell happened to Kurt Wimmer?
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JAMES BOND and PINK PANTHER sequels, THE HOBBIT, THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR 2, THE OUTER LIMITS, ROBOCOP, DEATH WISH and FAME, among others.
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I´m a cyborg, but that´s ok
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Ultraviolet's trailer was great, the results were not.
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Plot sucked, plus take away Weller (well I guess he was smart enough to pass), and there you go.
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beign the obvious template not the film. <p> And while the film WAS shite, not all the FX were crap. The ABC Warrior and Mean Machine were awesome. And both done by the great Chris Cunningham (I think he also sculpted the Dredd Helmet but can't remember). If memory serves Cunninham (who was called Halls at the time and came from being a Bisley Clone on the actual 2000ad comic) was still a teenager at the time. <p> Although I did joke way back there about it being O.K. to remake Robocop because he's a remake of Dredd, I can't see why you need to do it - the satire and the art deco look make it fairly timeless as far as I can see, Commodore Amiga graphics included. Bah humbug!
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March 17, 2008, 7:14 a.m. CST
Ultraviolet's trailer cop car makes the cg in the Indy 4
by half vader
trailer of the dueling vehicles look flawless. You guys really think it looked great? More one liners than an Arnie obit. Looled like one of Milla's own Revlon ads.
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"It's Judge Dredd, isn't it?" said Jon Davison. That's a direct quote from the premiere when he saw Dredd producers Lippincot and Nicoletti had snuck in. Their dismayed quote about Robocop? "It's so damn GOOD"!
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about that. That's why Dredd got delayed, and what we ended up with was the Stallone version. Robo definintely stole Dredd's thunder. Lee Iacocca High School, the 6000 SUX, the mayor going postal,the cops even had co-ed locker rooms if you recall. The social satire was incredible.
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Escape From LA as unoriginal too. I mean WTF was JC thinking while working on that retreaded/retarded sequel? Almost as disapointing as another "remake" Superman Returns..well almost.<p>Speaking of lack of original stories or concepts I'm gonna put The Matrix on that list..part Ghost in the shell,part Terminator, part the book of revelation...you make the call. XD
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what I meant was that the fx work in DREDD overall wasn't that convincing, especially regarding the big budget.
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I always thought Equilibrium was way underated and when some critics compared it to the Matrix was a bit rediculous.They are entirely two different films. <p>Just that one was mostly hyperbole and the other was thought provoking,albiet a thinking man's scifi actioner.My friends still to this day write it off as some "rip-off".<p>And as bad as Robocop 2 was, Robocop 3 was one of the worst sequels ever! Frank Miller needs to redeem himself and work on the sequel/remake.I would'nt be surprised if Robocop was influenced somewhat from the Dark Knight returns, (Chishu_Ryu called it.)besides Dredd and Deathlok.
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They did that crummy bike chase with the long unbroken shots (at that time audiences had no cinematic experience of those sort of shots outside of motion simulator thrill rides) and the cg vehicles and stuff. They also used a ton of dough building a street set that ended up looking like a cheesy Blade Runner rip. <p> But at least Hammerstein and MM rocked. Bok!
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And seeing that a lot of the Dredd comics are about him being old.... you can still use Sly. If Sly did an updated version of Dredd, the only part he is the actual correct age to still be playing, that would be awesome. To bad dumb ass vagina were there balls should be critics bashed Rambo.
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That thought the quality of Steve Martin's Pink Panther merited a sequel...? Just askin'
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really? sad. but on the other hand fuck yeah QUANTUM OF SOLACE!!!!
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Also thanks a lot Hollywood. Like we are shitting are pants right now trying to steal away all talented directors from other countries just to have them make crap. Oliver Hirschbiegel and Mikael Håfström come to mind just to throw some names out there. Paul Verhoeven is one of the few directors who got their start over seas and came to big time Hollywood and succeeded in a big way. So Hollywood treats him like shit and so he goes back home pretty much saying fuck Hollywood. I like to call it Fritz Lang syndrome, even though Lang came to work in America for much different reasons then directors today (even though the H man was a big fan of his) what happened to his work is very obvious, but Verhoeven (Guillermo del Toro and Ang Lee to name a few) are the exceptioins. Its the same reason directors like Pedro Almodóvar don't get sucked into coming to hollywood. But I guess Paul is back, to bad because if Black Book was a glimpse into what he wanted to do back on his home turf (even if it was a little Fassbinder), we had some good movies to look forward to. Anyways screw a Robocop revision, don’t mess with something that’s already been that fucked. I would like to see Verhoeven’s take on the Alien vs. Predetor movies before those get too fucked up to save. And by that I mean before they start releasing AVP movie direct to DVD (I know the last two aren’t anything to talk about but at least they got a theatrical release). Once a series has hits the DTV point (like Robocop pretty much did with the TV show) its beyond saving.
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Yeah there was someone. The almighty dollar. 82,226,474 Stateside, 76.4 million rest of the world.
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I saw it twice I think as a kid, but I saw part 2: The Confrontation at least 8 times.
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but the rest blew chunks. And just out of curiosity Stalkeye, your friends who say Equilibrium sucked, did they actually see the whole movie? If they did,and that's their opinion fine, but if they've never seen the whole thing then they have no right to critique it. Same premise is for any movie, well I guess you could watch a little bit, get disgusted by it's lameness, and shut if off, but you know what I mean.
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They did'nt bother to watch it due to the ignorance of mistaking it for a Matrix wannabee.(Well that and the skepticism of Taye Diggs in a serious role.)<p> I had offered to lend them my store bought copy, yet the stubborn bastids still refused to give it a chance.Their loss, however one of the best scenes in Equilibrium goes to the very last second regarding Bale's facial expression as a sign of regaining his humanity. It's further proof that Christian so deserves the mantle of Batman. (unlike Clooney or Keaton)after
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That is funny.
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I'm surprised Wimmer didn't come down on him. He was smiling through half the movie. Diggs as a person has a wonderful smile, and I guess he couldn't supress it. It was just wrong for this movie for obvious reasons. The only explanation is he was off the dose like Robert the Bruce, but Preston should have picked up on it. He honed in on Partridge for a minor slip if you can even call it that.
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March 17, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST
Stalkeye if your friends can't sit through it
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
send them this link. You still may be able to convert them, and I know you will enjoy it if you haven't seen it already. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCsRN70XXxo
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I was 17, had my own car bought with my own money, and it was the first rated R movie I could see on my own. I was well rewarded.
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Yeah, Gram I thought Taye's smiling was unusual when everyone else's emotion was stagnant via Equilibrium. But your theory sounds accurate as there were moments when Robert the Bruce (Agnus Mcfadden of Braveheart and The Rat Pack)seemed to slightly burst out with emotion.<p>But flaw or no, it did'nt stop me from appreciating this film, which needs not warrant a sequel as the story within itself was complete.Great ending with great music during credits.Too bad Ultraviolet could'nt follow suit.
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I was 17, (showing your age), with my own money (wow)...and I bet you were all by yourself and went home to wack off to Nancy Allen.
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March 17, 2008, 1:55 p.m. CST
The Assassination of Alex Murphy by the coward Clarence Bodikker
by messi
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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'Nuff said
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Departing cocaine bimbo to Bob Morton with two of Clarence's bullets in his kneecaps...
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Departing cocaine bimbo to Bob Morton with two of Clarence's bullets in his kneecaps...
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cool, being 17 and financially independent enough to afford my own place, and live on my own. Isn't that every teenager's dream, then reality sets in, and they realize they need to pay a mortgage. As far as my own money though I am quite proud of the fact I bought my first car on my own in cash with my own money, and mom and dad didn't hand it to me on a silver platter like so many spoiled people nowadays.
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March 17, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST
Chisu_Ryu, I thought it was "I'll call you."
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
but it's been a while since I've seen it.
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years later in XXX. "Bitches, come."
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to cameo in this, but they were all too busy on 24.
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