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The Final HARRY POTTER Film Is Actually Two Films Now...And They Have A Director!!
Merrick here...
LA Times is reporting the final HARRY POTTER film...HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS...will be split into two films.
They will be called HARRY POTTER (blah blah): PART I and HARRY POTTER (blah blah): PART II.
After months of rumors, Warner Bros. and the producers of the massively successful movies will announce Thursday that they plan to split "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows," J.K. Rowling's seventh and final "Potter" novel, into two blockbuster films -- one to be released in November 2010 and the second in May 2011.
...says the LA Times article, which you can see HERE!
David Yates, who directed ORDER OF THE PHOENIX and the upcoming HALF-BLOOD PRINCE will direct both installments of DEATHLY HALLOWS.
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BEAT THAT PETER JACKSON!
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I am ashamed.
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Still fucking first though let me add.
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I should have been first.
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He did such a shit job on Order... mother fucker... fuck
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Book is out. Unless its massive rewrites whats the point of splitting a story everyone already knows and having them pay 20 bucks in theaters or more depending on IMAX? Grindhouse is the perfect example. Just make the REALLY long Harry Potter movie. Lawrence of Arabia was 4 hours and ROTK was 3. Just make it a really long film and do it with 3D cameras.
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i'm not a big potter guy, but this reeks of greed. they haven't split any of the other books into 2 films, why start now? oh yeah.. $$$.
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Book is out. Unless its massive rewrites whats the point of splitting a story everyone already knows and having them pay 20 bucks in theaters or more depending on IMAX? Grindhouse is the perfect example. Just make the REALLY long Harry Potter movie. Lawrence of Arabia was 4 hours and ROTK was 3. Just make it a really long film and do it with 3D cameras.
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The problem with Order was'nt Yates, it was the editing. The movie was originally supposed to be three hours and as a result it felt very rushed. Because this movie is going to be close to 6 hours the last thing it will feel is rushed. However I still would have rather had Cuaron come back.
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yates is okay but the fun has been in the changing of directors. I don't want to see the same style for four movies in a row.
you know, CUARON could have pulled off doing this in one movie. -
I dig the books but the last is not so complex and loaded with happenings that it's impossible to "cram" it into 2-3 hours. In fact, it feels very much structured like one good movie. This is bad news. I feel the "sit through" is going to be ass-numbingly interminable.
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I thought the best thing to happen to this film franchise was when they no longer had Chris Columbus directing the films. With that being said, the quality of the series took a step back with the 5th film, directed by Yates. Is he just good buddies with someone important, and that's why they're handing the rest of this series off to him? I really hope they at least TRIED to convince Alfonso Cuaron to direct Deathly Hallows. I'm sure there are a number of more talented directors who would happily take a shot at the final Potter flick. Very disappointing news...
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Lucas was a whore...
"fuck!!!! the bitch isnt writing any more books! fuck!!! lets split the last one into 2 films.. FUCK!"
"where the hell are we gonna find 900mil a year in box office revenue??" -
Maybe...but at what price? Part 3 was well done, but many fans were left disappointed with the cuts he made. And that was on one of the shortest books.
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I'm still holding out for Harry Potter vs. Mary Poppins (HPvMP).
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in the woods doing nothing.
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They're all the same movie anyway.
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BUT TWO PARTS SOUNDS GREAT!!! QUINT SHOULD BE HAPPY RIGHT NOW.
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about Yates. I'm not sold on this guy. He seems a bit sleep-inducing, like he's a really big fan of the books, knows every detail... but that's what kind of what makes him a bit boring. I tell you what I did like those wand battles in OOTP though. But that's not necessarily Yates. Newell's movie had much more energy.
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The seventh book ain't that dense. half of it is the trio camping. if any book deserved to be split, it'd be something like the Half Blood Prince.
the other problem that splitting the Deathly Hallows shares with the Hobbit is that neither has a suitable cliffhanger roughly 50% of the way through the book. it means that you have to not only hype up something within the book to make it into a phony cliffhanger, but you also have to build up a phony climax, etc.
also, Yates is a good director and OOTP was a good potter film. but he's not Cuaron and its a shame if the Potter series doesn't get to see Cuaron's magic again.
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They'll be making them until Doomsday (not the movie).
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Bland shit
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Yates did a phenomenal job directing "Order" and now he finally has all the time he needs to tell one of these books faithfully. This is the best thing to happen to Harry Potter since they canned Chris Columbus. Suck it, haters.
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one movie.
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Remeber before you all bitch: Half the fanboys around hear kept griping that ALL the HP films should have been two-parters. Don't complain because you finally got your wish. I DO hope that they'll only release a couple months apart, though.
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was there was a detached element to it. I have never watched it again after the first time. The others I watched a few times. I just hope that this doesn't continue because of Yates style, which seems a bit antiseptic.
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My only complaint about this is that I really would like John Williams to have returned to the series for part 7. Yates will likely push for Nicholas Hooper, who did 5 and will do 6. He's not terrible by any standard, but just doesn't have much zaz.
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I read the final book and thought that it was going to make one of the best movies because it had alot of interesting set pieces and there was an awful lot of 'padding' that they could easily cut out to give the script a good pace and let the story flow more naturally on film. Now there's going to be two movies? Presumably they're not going to cut much out if they want to have solid running times, so are we now going to get endless scenes of Harry Potter and his friends sitting in a tent saying "I don't know what to do next." In my opinion this is a bad move as, instead of getting one trim, fast-paced climax to this franchise we'll be getting two boring plods that are seriously going to drag.
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Two installments = great! David Yates = bad news that mitigates whatever benefit comes from splitting the two films. I'm guessing this isn't going to mean a return for John Williams, which is the worst news of all, especially in wake of the atrociously generic Order of the Phoenix score.
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they don't do ANY of the film in 3D or Imax . . . either do it ALL that way or NONE of it . . . I hate it when all of a sudden the staging and camera completely change in a scene, because we've obviously just crossed over the point where we're supposed to put on uncomfortable glasses or watch a blurry image. UGH.Love that it's two films . . . they've had to cut SOOO much from other books, and you just want to stay in that world as long as possible . . . I agree, I don't want to watch them sitting the woods for an hour, but there's plenty left to fill two films.Really would have loved to see new directors though . . . why stop changing now? Give Nolan or Guillermo a shot!!
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****WARNING!!!***MAJOR SPOILER!!!***DO NOT READ THIS POST IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO KNOW THE ENDING***
Voldemort kills Harry, Evil Reigns Supreme, 2012 arrives and Time, Itself, ends. Good night, kids. -
He would have made a decent attempt to translate the material, the films leave me cold as there so stark, the last one especially.
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just make a three hour final film....terrible idea.
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In my opinion, Yates brought a sense of realism to the school while combining elements that made Cuaron's so great. I loved the style and specially the gritty battle between Dumbledore and Voldemort. More of that pleas! And now with a slower paced script and more details it will be even grander. I also liked what he did with the actors. For the first time really, I felt that the trio where real friends on that school. The scene with Hermione and Ron giggling with Harry about his kiss was a fantastic scene. The chemistry never was better and I think Yates really nailed their characters.
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I DID like OotP. I guess they decided to go for a bit more of continuity at the end of this franchise. Which isn't a bad thing, but I'm bummed we won't get Guillermo or Cuaron.
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Let's hope he doesn't or that Warner forces him to bring Williams back :) Hooper is descent though, way better then Doyle. He was really out of place with his ultra lush high pitched strings. Holy crap that was a little to much.
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The Gringots scene do you think?
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are they both going to be a trim 90 mins each or two hours plus? 5 hours of that book? there is barely enough for one good film half of it is ron hermionie and harry wandering around in a tent...crying all the time.
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Yates is a hack director!
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Thank the lord Cauron isn't back too. Spoiled number 3, there's a million different things he could have used in the films yet he made up his own tripe. The book was easily short enough to include a mention of the marauders, at least. Spoiled to impact.
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I don't care for Yates' style, or should I say, lack of style. And they could've made it a single, 3 hour movie pretty easily. "Part I" is going to be anti-climactic.
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if they make the battle of hogwarts about an hour long and really go for it, i have always felt that they pussied out of big battles so as not to scare the kiddies.. but then if they do that what the hell is the first film going to have in it?
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I do like the idea that the want to split this book into two movies. I just wished they did it with Goblet and Order too. But I dont like the idea of YATES directing again. OOTP was just ok. I really did not like how they just washed over Sirius's death.
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Who wants to see half an hour of Quidditch that doesn't even involve any of the main characters? Who wants to see a stupid subplot involving Hermione creating some kind of charity for Jar Jar the Elf? I dig the books as a whole but there's an awful lot of bullshit in them.
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he was a teacher about 5 years ago teaching media studies and stuff then he left and went to the BBC to do State of Play and then Potter. We asked him to come back to talk to the kids but he says that Warners own his ass and wont let him do anything without authorisation.
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Freddy and Jason would agree. At least Star Trek changed casts half way through.
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I knew about the Two Movies and Yates for several months now...
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I was hoping Yates was just a bad rumor. Oh well, we always have the books I guess.
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Yates seriously should consider hiring John Williams. Some of the movie industries' most established names would sell their souls' to get Williams to score a movie for them and this guy has Williams already interested in returning. Hooper wasn’t bad, but he wasn’t exactly memorable. For that matter, Williams composition wasn't exactly stunning in the first and second Harry Potter films. But Prisoner of Azkaban absolved him of all previous Harry Potter related sins. And while I'm on the topic of Prisoner of Azkaban, damn you Warner Bros. for not getting Alfonso Cuarón back to direct at least one of the final films. He would have put his magic touch (no pun intended, maybe) on that just like P of A. Boourns again Warner Bros.
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I havent bothered to see any Potter films but my little sis is pissed, I didnt even know that 10 year olds could swear that much.
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We'll get about 20 editions of it.
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Ewan Mcgregor, naomi watts, bob hoskins, bill nighy, simon pegg, nick frost, james mcavoy, paddy considine, daniel craig, hellen mirren , judi dench, james cromwell, pierce brosnan, steve coogan, daniel day lewis, sarah bolger, jhonathan rhys meyer, jude law, michael cain, christian bale, hugh grant, rachel weisz and probably a few more i don't remember now
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But by all means, stick with that director. I guess him being a Brit tips the scales. Better a mediocre film that maintains its "Britishness". Oh shut the fuck up.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo...
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"Give Nolan or Guillermo a shot"?
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was the shortest movie.
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God i hate harry potter.
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James Cromwell is American.
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You are aware that Del Toro is on the record saying he would be interested in doing this film if approached right? Just checking.
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Uh yeah, he did an okay movie. Now he's like the new Spielberg.
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If he can somehow make the longest more boring potter book second to Prisoner of Azkaban, there's no stopping the man! Good decision!
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for not splitting all the others into 2 parts. Haven't read the books, so I don't know if this one deserved 2 parts or if a skilled, abridged adap. would have been better.
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...Goblet of Fire, which should have been two parts, if nothing else for the character development, was one part. HP&TDH, which could easily be trimmed to one really great film is now going to be as long and... long as the actual book?
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As a television series. With every moment from the books-- None of this cutting out characters and whole chapters to rush us through in 90 minutes. Recast most of the characters, and make it an ongoing television show with a high budget.
I'd pay $1.99 for that on iTunes, for sure. And advertisers would love to get in on it for television broadcast.
Seriously, this series is good on film, but suffering in MANY ways. It needs a re-do, now that the book series is finished and we can see that omitting certain characters or scenes was a BIG MISTAKE made by the filmmakers.
I want to see this on film, done right, and that requires a LOT of hours. They could make each season of the show be ONE book, and they'd have more than enough material for it to work. -
All I see is some nerdy looky kid who goes to school for a few years. Granted "Magic" is involved but even then it still seems uninteresting, no matter how dark they are trying to make it. At least with X-Men, there are themes and ideas about society and discrimination.
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Hsrry Potter VII (psrt duex): The milking continues. Boy, I just can't wait for the inevitable prequels, Hermione spinoffs, remakes/re-imaginings, apocryphal accounts (penned by master milker herself J.K. Rowlings, of course), animated series (oh, do have those already?), TV serialized and syndicated versions, and of course, alternate universe HP movies. Who says it has to end? I'm telling you, milking this cash cow can go on FOR-EVAR!!!! for realz.....
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bring th hallows. potter hungry!!
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Throughout the books are a LOT of commentaries on societal issues, from monopolistic media blanketing fals news (aka the current actions of the FCC) to tolerance and racism . . . and of course, good ol' coming of age stuff.If the Potter books don't hook you right off the bat, you're probably not going to get into them at any point . . . cheezy as it may be, it really is indulging in kid-sense of magic and wonder. They aren't the most important books ever written, but they're a lot of fun.
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"They're milking it cuz they want money!" Wow, you guys sure have your finger on the pulse of Hollywood. Bravo. Well done.
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maybe its an age thing? were the fanboys here 12 when the first book came out?
i tried to watch one potter film.. my god i was bored.. lucky the chick that conned me into watching it spent the last 40 mins of the film blowing me.. dime let her off! -
Thanks for that. Also Kudos for not speaking down at me for not "getting" Potter. I tried to read a Potter book and it now is currently a door stop in my secret underground lair. So that covers the books. I also tried to watch one of the POtter films on a plane but barely lasted 30 mins before I switched to a bloody Tiger Woods documentary.....yep watching Golf was more interesting to me!
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where is the natural split in the book, in your opinion? i feel like they could condense the camping part and make a pretty fucking amazing 3 hour movie...
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How cool would it be to have Williams come back for the last movie?
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The previous movies lacked the depth of Jo Rowling's story simply because each book needed to be crammed into 180 minutes or less. Cuaron's movie (Prisoner) being the exception. That was different because of his great talent. It seems to me that he was the ONLY person in the whole of the franchise to actually get how HP should be done. Anyway, here's why they have kept David Yates for movies 6 & 7 - WB CAN CONTROL HIM. Order of the Phoenix was his debut feature. He may have shot the damn thing but with his lack of movies on his resume WB could tell him what flick to deliver in the end, and at half the price that they would have to pay some directors for playing ball. So we got the SHORTEST movie adapted from the LONGEST book. More screenings. More bucks. WB owns Yates's ass. But with 2 movies for Deathly Hallows at least they don't have the running time issue to use as an excuse to finally deliver the Potter goods. There's no excuse for them to not give it everything they've got.
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as they're stuck in Malfoy Manor. Then escape in the second one, blah, blah, etc.
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So they'll be forced to find another director for Deathly Hallows. WB is counting its chickens before they've hatched . . .
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Final Harry Potter film to go the Empire Strikes Back, Back to the Future II and Matrix Reloaded route. Where it has a TO BE CONTINUED ending and the audience goes, AWWWW!
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Hooper just didn't cut it. His score for OOTP was adequate at best, but it lacked any sense of real magic and (more importantly) transcendence. He's not a total hack, and shows some talent, but he's not even close to being in Williams' class. If it hadn't been for his prior association with Yates, I very much doubt he would have even been considered. As it stands, the producers let the director have his way, because they knew it wouldn't hurt the bottom line (and they were probably right). But the franchise deserves better, IMO. If Williams can't return, the most suitable replacement would be Bruce Broughton, whose style/talents are ideal for the Harry Potter universe.
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is a high school dropout. It's true.
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You've apparently not read the books. The whole underlying theme of the story is that the villains are proponents of racial purity, and racial cleansing. The difference here is that instead of "Anglo-Saxon" and "Jew", we have "Wizards" and "Muggles", and the war is fought with magic instead of bombs.
There's a lot more, but you'd have to have half a brain and read the books to get it. The movies gloss over the themes of fighting against bigotry, racial purity, and a despotic ruler who forces his ideology upon his followers, and boils it down to "Voldemort is evil", which I admit is sort of weak.
In the books, Voldemort is a lot more than just a bad wizard; He's Hitler with the power of Merlin. Think about that. And I mean it quite literally-- Voldemort's every move parallels some Hitleresque action or trait. He's a sad, rejected child who is ashamed of his heritage, so he covers it up by screaming about racial purity and pointing fingers at some other group, blaming them for all his woes, and telling his followers they'll be free and satisfied once they destroy anyone who doesn't believe as they do.
It's not just "some nerdy looky kid who goes to school for a few years" at all. That's the most basic level of the book. That's what you see when you're a kid and don't understand anything about world history, racism, or the more adult undertones present from book two onward.
Don't let the haters sway you. These are the kind of guys who wouldn't open a book if their life depended on it, unless it had a picture of Venom fighting a Predator on the cover. -
As has been said already, Cromwell is American. Brosnan is Irish (calling an Irishman a Brit is an act of war by the way :P )
Oh and don't worry about Williams, he confirmed a while back that he was returning for the final Potter film. -
I didn't mean YOU don't have half a brain, by the way, but that if you read the books and don't have half a brain, you wouldn't catch some of the subtext.
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What, am I late?
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Hmmmmm...I like the sound of my title better. Thoughts?
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But i'm sure hes onto something more useful. Would have bee kind of a step backwards after CoM. Hope he does some Fantasy someday, he's so good at it.
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I love the HP films, but Phoenix the least of all. So it'll be nice to have an extra film but Yates is teh suckitude. I think Chris Columbus should return for at least one a them, and Cuaron the other. Lovely!
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Potter. Harry Potter. *kapow*
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Make that a DOUBLE meh.
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Does Hermione have a bikini scene or what?
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Didn't the last Matrix movie completely shit the toilet using this six month strategy?
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Even a couple of nice looks at her magical rack would do the trick.
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this is TERRIBLE news.
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The trilogy was filmed at one time, but released over 3 years - 3 fantadastical years. I remember being so happy it made me forget who was president.
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I believe my doorstop is The prisoner of albequeque or something. It was a gift because I had been denouncing the series up until that point.I was told it was the most interesting one so far. I got through it but I failed to see those underlying notions that you speak of. It just didnt interest me that much. And I happen to be a student of history. I guess I am missing out then. Oh well, there is always Rambo Vs Anaconda: In his pants.
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OOTP gets better once you really seperate it from the book. I stil say what I said in the tlkback from the midnight screening, it was just forced forward a little too fast, like GOF was. 3 was the lowest grossing because it was the longest, not because it was the worst. They need to slow it down just a touch, stretch out the sceens a little.. OOTP just went too fast and some great character work was sacrificed. Now, the last 25 minutes are rock fucking solid and I think that's why YATES is back for the last 2 (3 if you count the split). I think Yates has really brought the world to life in a way that Cuaron started. However, yates isn't completely hung up on the world and art and what the film looks like, as Cuaron obviously was. If you haven't read the last book and can't understand why Yates is back, just wait.... The last 200 pages of book 7 are CRAZY and I think Yates will nail it, like he did with the ministry battle in OOTP.
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LOTR set no precedent relating to this: one movie, one book. This is two movies, one book.
I am sure other series were filmed at once and released over time.
Its stupid to release it like this. This is not a series, its one book in a series. I am sure you'll have to buy two dvds too. If they are going to do it like this, they better make customers moneys worth. -
I meant the short time between releases - those movies being released a year apart each. Those were some good years.
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Yates. The man is a menace. I'm all for the two-movie ploy, but he's the worst thing to happen to the series since Chris Columbus.
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Mar 12, 2008 10:00:05 PM CDT
I'M SPEAKING AS A FAN OF THE MOVIES WITHOUT READING THE BOOKS
by bringingsexyback
So my perspective is different from the rest of y'all. So might say it's not smart to split the lsat book into 2 movies, but to me, all the movies are just a continuation of one big story.
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as I always figured that by the time the 7th book rolled around, the page numbers would have been so bloated that they would have released *that* in two separate installments.
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I actually like that, Merrick. They should call the films just that - HARRY POTTER (blah blah): Part One & HARRY POTTER (blah blah): Part Two.
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Fine by me. The 7th book, for those who have actually read it, is by far the densest and heaviest plot. I'm glad they're making two movies out of it. There's so much great stuff in it that it would be impossible to cut out virtually anything without leaving a great big hole in the story. I was glad there wasn't any bloody Quidditch in the last movie or DH. The best Quidditch game was in the best film, Prisoner of Azkaban, and that was because it had nothing to do with the stupid game and who won it or lost it. OOTP was the next best movie in the franchise and while I'm very sad that Cuaron isn't coming back for seconds and thirds, I'm glad they went with someone who knows the franchise and the actors and who did nearly as good of a job as Cuaron. Who knows? Maybe HBP will become my new favorite movie. As to where the films should be split, I'd recommend right after or before the robbery at Gringott's...
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The 6th book was great and more epic than the 7th really - make that a two-parter and just keep the final one to a longish running time.
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My sister who's read all the books tells me that Yates cut out a lot of stuff. I don't mind long movies, so that's my reason for not liking his leaner adaptation.
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talk about blah
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1. Tired of hearing how Azkaban was the greatest Potter movie. The stuff cut about the Marauders made the ending ("My Dad will save us!") incomprehensible, even if the time-twister was handled beautifully.
2. Phoenix was the weakest book, and reading it, I wondered how this padded story could be turned into a decent film. It was pared better and more cleanly than any other book in the series.
3. How about getting Rowling to approve an eighth title for the final movie? Anyone for "Harry Potter and the Battle of Hogwarts?"
4. ZeroCorpse is spot on with the Nazi overtones of Voldemort and the Death Eaters. Rowling's story is chilling of how she visited the Holocaust Museum after writing about Voldemort's concepts of mudblood pollution of the pureblood families and finding them identical to Nazi criteria for Aryan purity. -
Y'know, it's not even about how much "stuff" they cut out; at the end of the day, comparing the books to the movies is just going to make your head hurt. You have to see them as separate entities and just hope that they do justice to the heart of the story. That being said, Yates is a director who might be great at directing your drama-of-the-week, but who has no sense of the elements that go into making a truly fanstastical fantasy film. He's a bad fit and I have no idea what the fascination is and why they would bring him back for yet ANOTHER. Did they just get lazy? Christ. The more I think about the more annoyed I become. OoTP had about as much substance as your average music video. I'm not holding out much hope for HBP and now I just want to throw something when I think of the potential travesty that (could be) DH.
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Ah well, let Guillermo have "The Hobbit"....he's still on that, right? Or wait, wasn't it canned? I don't know...someone update me!
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It's no wonder OOTP was the worst of the series. Man, this doesn't bode well for the remainder of films. I might not read the books, but the fucking director sure as shit should read the books. And yeah, I want a LOONNGG HP movie. That's what I'm there for - to escape the real world for as long as possible with a compelling film.
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...Really shit choice of director. They just want to ride this cash cow out smoothly. Get it over with. Then bath in money.
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Everyone looks at the camping scenes and complains that if those were just cut down, one film is very doable. They don't realize that part of the purpose of those scenes is to slow down the pace after these big action scenes. How exactly do you think a movie would work if it was nothing but action scenes from start to finish. Hell, ever the shittiest action movies realize you need some down time. And look at all the major action sequences. Escaping Privet Drive, the wedding and subsequent fleeing, the Ministry, Gringotts, Godric's Hollow, Hogwarts, Malfoy Manor, the Lovegoods. Maybe with the exception of the wedding (if they abandon or cut down the Dumbledore subplot), you can't take any of those sequences out.
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I'd say after the destruction of the locket.
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a bigger cash cunt than Lucas. I'm a Anarcho-Capitalist of the highest order, and even I would not seek to soak the very fans who made me wealthy beyond imagining. Really, sugar teets, isn't a 9 figure net worth enough already?
Christ...If she isn't milking a single (overly long) book into two movies...She's setting the hounds upon fans who think of niches for her creation she herself isn't creative enough to fathom.
Seriously...this is one lawsuit happy, British only Bigoted, scheming shrew...
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The director does not film the book. He films the script. If people have issues about what's included or not included in a screenplay, blame the writer, not the director. I felt Yates drew a nice balance between the former whimsy of Cuaron, and the grounded qualities that the films have matured into. Like Cuaron's POA, Yates' OotP was about something, not just putting a book on the screen. I didn't agree with all the choices (I frankly expected more of a blow up in the scene in which Harry tells Dumbledore where to get off). But I think as the overall story arc is progressing towards a climax, having consistency with the director can only be a good thing. He'll learn with each movie, and frankly, he proved himself with OotP. Now for Deathly Hallows, cast Bill Nighy in something (Aberforth?) He worked with Yates in the brilliant Girl in the Cafe film.
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Mar 13, 2008 12:02:53 AM CDT
Just trying to squuuuuuuueeeeeeeeze the most out of this franchi
by s8ntmark
....Before it all goes away.
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*spoiler*
Too bad Tonks gets offed. Still, I'd fuck Natalie Tena for 7 weeks straight until she has to use a wheelchair for a month. -
It was pretty obvious that there is a perfect split point for two movies in the final book. Plus, you will never squeeze all the stuff into one movie without raping the book completely (like PJ did in Two Towers).
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He doesn't get that the director does not write the movie, he films it.
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is almost legal! Heh. I miss the ol' EW clit posts...
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Is a Harry Potter? And why should I give a shit? What am I 5?
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Lets see there are quite a few horcruxes to be destroyed and found. They have no idea where almost all of them are at the start of the 7th book. The battle of hogwarts alone could be an hours length.
This is the movie that will really show how evil Voldemort is.
I am sure the camping material will be greatly reduced.
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It really depends on the tone they are going for but I'd think it should happen after the Gringots robbery. If they take it all the way to Malfoy Manor that may be too far but that would indeed be a great moment to leave as a cliffhanger. I am really looking forward to Half Blood Prince though... Finally Tom Felton gets to really sink his teeth in and turn Draco Malfoy into a serious villain. While Goblet of Fire is the best film in the series, OotP is fantastic and the Dumbledore v Voldemort wand battle in the Ministry was worth my whole $10. I think Yates can and will get better as he is the one series director most like Cuaron and Alfonso was my choice for book 7. If the WB had any sense they'd let Yates do HBP and DH part 1 then call Cuaron back in for DH part 2. The battle of Hogwarts is going to be unbelievably epic. Beloved Heroes and Villains will fall and I hope that each one will be given the screen time they deserve. I also want the details that Jo has let us know in the aftermath of the book being printed come into play. I'd like to see the more intimate details of Grindelwald and Dumbledore's friendship as well as more of the 19 years between the Battle of Hogwarts and the Epilogue. We have 2 movies for the finale and a director that knows how to show the school life and film fantastic battles. I look forward to the most faithful book adaptation in the series.
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from day one, if they were successful. I don't understand all the bitching about 'milking the cow'. Why wouldn't Warner Brothers keep making them? Because YOU think they are getting worse? Um. Ok. Warner Brothers wants to make money. So they want to keep producing HP films. Big deal. Everyone wants to make money. When you have one of the all time biggest franchise movies at your studio, and they continue to make a profit, why wouldn't you keep releasing them? It's not even greed. It's just common sense. The only thing that could possibly be seen as cash grubbing is releasing the seventh book in two films. I think they could have made the book into one film very easily, but at least this way they won't have to cut as much out. Ultimately, we the audience benefit. The studios too. So I don't see the problem.
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where will they split it? the first part will be dull as hell. I won't bother seeing it in cinemas at all...just wait for DVD. Yates is such a weak director, could they not get anyone else?
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Milk it! MILK IT TO DEATH!!!
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and the movies and franchise drift away and become nothing more than a faint memory... it will be the Prisoner of Azkaban which is remembered and help up. Cuaron did more for the franchise in one movie than Yates will in four. Don't get me wrong, I hope Yates talent shines through, and makes his name in the fantasy world and becomes huge... but hes gonna need to elevate the last two stories into something which transcends all thats come before it... which aint gonna be easy.... best of luck.
Curaon or Del Toro would give me more hope though. -
.....add some meat to D.H. with the flashback stuff. You have Tom Riddle's life and the creation/hiding of the Horcruxes. There is Dumbledore's battle with Grindelwald (although hopefully it would be sans the gay love story). I don't like two movies for the last book, but it could be done well.
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They're going to be showing Dumbledore and Grindelwald rolling around with their robes getting all tangled and shit. If not, a couple of furtive glances and pursed lips between wand battles should do the trick.
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"Hey, here's an idea. Why dont we just split every single movie we make into two? No wait, three parts! Split it into three! More yummy money! Mwa ha ha ha!"
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I guess we're going to get A LOT of Hermione, Ron and Harry sat around in a field if they're splitting this bad boy.
The only plus point about making two movies out of the book is that Yates may decide to ramp up the face off between Harry and Voldermort.
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I don't care anymore, WB obviously knows that they could put a goat in the director's chair and HP would still make steampiles of money. I'll just opt out this time and go read the books again..because I have an attention span.
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Money-grabbing WB cunts.
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in these remaining installments.
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I'm now convinced that these people are absolutely retarded. And as if that wasn't enough, they're sticking with the crap-amateur director of Order? Tsk, tsk. Such a shame. As a creative professional and a fan of the book series, I can definately see a proper clear cut three hour film adaptation being made out of DH. What the fuck are they possibly going to do to fill out two films?
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fuck it, bad piece of writing, fuck scorpius and albus severus and contrived, overdrawn, superfluous endings.
Cast Jack Nicholson as Xenophilious Lovegood and then you can justify two films. -
go check out the snowcat and see what I mean
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there just seemed to be a tangible "wheels spining" vibe to me..
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I'm surprised they didn't make the final books into 800+ different movies -- one for each page -- in order to wring every last coin from this franchise.
I am willing to bet any amount of money that JK Rowling will, within a year or two at the most, announce that she "actually intended Harry Potter to be an ongoing 14 book story, and blah blah blah." GUARENTEE IT. Once her next non-Potter book comes out and bombs, stay tuned for the announcement of book 8, the extended universe, comics, tv show, cartoon, and movies. How much you wanna bet? -
Alfonso Cuaron may be loved by the art house crowd but POA is the least successful of all the HP movies, get over it folks! WB were never going to invite back the least financially successful director.
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Mar 13, 2008 6:36:06 AM CDT
I feel sorry for the three young actors. Unless they pull a
by creasybear
Mark Hamill, opportunities await, while they're forever stuck in the same roles with no real breaks in between. And now ANOTHER movie. Okay, the redhead not so much, but I'm sure Hollywood would have something for Radcliffe (team him with Shia LeBouef), and Emma Watson (probably a Lolita remake).
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these films are pretty crap. Hollywood should make a summer action movie with Radcliffe, MacAvoy and Bloom and see which one can deliver the most wooden performance.
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All of the other Harry Potter films? They were made by WB to make money! *GASP*!! The last couple movies were about 3 hours long, and cut a lot of things out. The last two books are filled with parts that I think will be very hard to chop up. They both rely on things first referred to in previous books, but never shown on film. Personally, even the sixth book could be made into two movies. But at this point, they're doing this for two reasons. 1: more money. 2: audiences won't be able to handle anything more than 3 hours, and the writers will have a lot of difficulty cutting the plot down to fit. Maybe this will give us two more manageable 2-hour films. And yes, I am a fan of these films. The only two books in the series I read were 6 and 7, and even then, I realized there are important things that I know the movies never touched on that need to be brought up to have the movies make sense.
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I'm in. By the time the wrap these things up Hermione should have finally matured enough that I can stop feeling like a creepy old pedo for wanting to get a piece of that ass.
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That's news.
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That's news.
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They needed an eight installment? Good lord. End this now. These films are terrible.
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Right.
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I hated Order. It's my favorite of the books and they massacred it onscreen! They'd better step up their game with Prince and Hallows!
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Just when I thought it was all finished, they're milking it. I fucking hate Harry Potter. The worst thing to come out of Britain since Kerry Katona.
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his 'magic wand'. Thanks J.K. for giving us a gay wizard for no reason whatsoever
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But I heard or read somewhere that John Williams had signed on to do the final installment. Quite a while ago. Although this will likely change now that Yates has locked down with WB and will undoubtedly make his own choices. But it would be a huge blast if Williams came back to put an ending on what he magically started.
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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would be so wrong. You're all pervs.
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Mar 13, 2008 10:21:32 AM CDT
cant they ever get someone else?
by lloyd bonafide the korean war veteran
i hate the fact that the main point of the direction of OOTF was that it HAD to be the shortest film. WHY??? why does it have to be short??? to add more screen times in theatres? to insult our attention spans? i think the audience will give you credit since they are already there to see the FIFTH movie in the franchise...you've earned some goodwill. Now dont cut out a bunch of stuff that connects everything and is probably useful to the story. Where are you, Cuaron? Huh? Come back!!!
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boring, un-inspired.
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The spare work done on OOTP did leave a lot to be desired, with gloss overs of too many important bits. I can understand the challenge of getting things into a manageable film but I agree with several of the criticisms above of Yates' last outing.
OOTP was still enjoyable and several things in it worked very very well but the stuff that didnt really stood out compared to the other films.
Personally as successful as these films are and as much money as Warners is making off them and will make off of them for decades and decades I don't think it's hard to imagine that there is a certain amount of fatigue and/or indifference in the studio when it comes to this property. The selection of Yates likely gives them a more pliable director than the more distinctive choices available. I realize this is a harsh criticism of Yates that may go too far but it sure feels accurate - especially when accompanied by draconian cuts to the source material in his last outing and little items that indicate cost cutting (i.e. Sirius in the flames no longer the exceptionally cool embers effect but instead some half assed image of his face in the flames that someone with an off the shelf package could do at home).
Personally I am still looking forward to his take on Half Blood Prince and and I'm trying to take the fact that Hallows will be broken up into 2 parts as a good sign that they are trying to do justice to the material. I just hope int he process they don't put the finer details and quality of them on autopilot assuming that no matter what they do the money will be there. They better not screw this up. -
Mar 13, 2008 11:24:03 AM CDT
Is there anything on this site that no one bitches about?
by reel american hero
Seriously... But anyways, I'm glad at least one book from the series will get some justice to it (hopefully) on screen.
The problem with this franchise is that each movie is handled separately from the others, like 95% of the James Bond movies, same characters, new adventure, no relation to anything previous before. When it should have been handled since day one like an ongoing storyline, with shit being mentioned in one story, such as Sirius Black in book one, but not showing up till a few stories down the line. I could make a whole list of things that seem minor and inconsequential at the time of their inclusion in the books, but then become major plot points down the road.
Oh, and one last thing...every major Hollywood movie is made with the reason of making money. Do you think they're making a Justice League movie because they're big fans of the comic book. FUCK NO...it's all about money. Deal with it. -
Again I am looking forward to his HBP. I think the experience of OOTP can only give him even more affinity for the material so I hope it shows and carries forward (and is supported fully and enthusiastically by WB's - which should realize it is capping a film series that will be loved for years and years to come).
This is not the time to be cheap WB's. Do it right. -
isn't it the job of a movie studio and/or a film franchise to make money? and isn't the last book about a gagillion pages long? i have no problem with this decision.
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it's kinda hard to foreshadow things when you don't know how the story's going to end. I'd guess that Deathly Hallows was the only script written where they knew how everything would end up. Perhaps HBP will be directed with an eye towards the end of the story. The mere fact that Rowling had to warn them not to cut Kreacher in OotP is indicative of the problems this film franchise has had from the beginning. Maybe they should have waited until all the books were out before they started making movies. Then they could have been more careful about what to include or not.
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Mar 13, 2008 12:09:58 PM CDT
break will probably be after the break-in,
by lloyd bonafide the korean war veteran
break-out of gringotts. thats a good half way climax.
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fucking david yates...but i get the two movies thing. i mean, it's obviously to make that $$$$ but it's an incredibly dense book so...
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Most of the books were out already by the time the movies were out, so they could have had some, if not most of the foreshadowing in there at least for the first four movies. But they chose to shoot each movie as it's own entity, as opposed to a true ongoing story which the HP books were. -
I'm just now reading Deathly Hallows, managed to not get it spoiled for me yet thankfully. I just stopped reading last night when I went to bed, the part where they get captured by Malfoy, that would make for a good break in between the two movies I think. -
He's at home watching some "adult" entertainment alone.....you get the idea.
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sorry, I'm an idiot.
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...unlike most people I have enjoyed all of the Harry Potter films, however one of the things that most impressed me with this franchaise is the fact that they kept changing directors but kept the main cast and remained continunity (mostly- changing location of Hagrid's hut in part 3 really grates on me!) I liked OOTP-and think Yates is an interesting director, however I was disappointed to hear that we was coming back for the HBP and even more disappointed he is coming back for the DH- which DOES NOT need to be split into two films...er ok if they had not cut so much backstory out of the last three films then ok yeah, but there is barely anything left. I wonder if they have a trick up there sleeve with HBP and it will bring in story arcs from the other books into this film?
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should have been 2 movies. They left a lot of shit out of those movies that was very cool...
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Make DEATHLY HALLOWS PART 1 a satisfying film in its own right!
Satisfying films that still had cliffhangers include (for me) EMPIRE STRIKES BACK, FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING... What didn't work so much was TWO TOWERS (where you felt they weren't much closer to their quest than they had been at end of FELLOWSHIP) or ORDER OF PHOENIX (where you felt that really not much had essentially changed since GOBLET OF FIRE).
So please make the DH1 cliffhanger moment a satisfying one. Just remember how pissed off people were at the end of MATRIX RELOADED. -
Harry Potter lost its magic, goblet of fire sucked and order of the phoenix felt rushed, and yates is going to direct the last 2 oops i mean 3, yikes. at least i still have
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Despite all the awards... Despite all the battles... FELLOWSHIP is the only one that's really good. You'll see, time will tell...
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...I won't be seeing instead of just one. Potter has been a joke since Azkaban.
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If John Williams were brought back on board, would that make you feel at least a little better? I think for me it would, but I'm fairly certain he won't be back now and that sucks. What a wasted opportunity to not have him do all seven films. It could have been something special.
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...yes I would love John Williams to come back. The score for Azkaban was one his best and elevated the first two films. I thought the scores for GOB and OOTP were good (Doyle's score improves with age)but you cannot compare it to the master. Am I the only person who thinks they should have bought Colombus back for the last film? With him and Williams it would have come full circle...
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That the Harry Potter franchise is going to be dragged out for another four years? Shit. We were so close to it all being finished.
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Part of what clicked about Azkaban was that it had that Empire Strikes Back feeling of building us up for the next installment, which is just what HBP needs to do. I am very very sorry they have not hired Cauron to make another Potter, as his was really the best movie so far. But at least they didn't get Columbus or Newell again (dangit I wanted Goblet to be better than it was).
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the first movie will be nothing but camping!!
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Mar 13, 2008 5:03:47 PM CDT
Can someone please explain how this is milking the franchise?
by seanny_d
Honestly, I don't get it. There is so much richness, so much to be tied up in the last book that I don't see how splitting it into two parts is a bad idea at all. They got the okay from Rowling, so why not? Ok, so you have to pay twice. After you see Part 1, put away a nickel every day until you have enough to go see part 2. You're all set. Problem solved. It'd be one thing if they were planning on stretching it out unnecessarily. But there's plenty of material for two movies. My only problem is that I was looking for something fresh for the 7th movie so this Yates thing I'm not THAT keen on, but Warners will have my forgiveness if they bring back Williams. Someone needs to start a petition.
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We will gave to deal with virgins dressing as Dumbledore for 3 more movies and not 2.
Great!Where's my .45? -
As if oceans of 40yr old Jedi, and over weight wanna be 7 of 9's were not bad enough...
now we have to bear the great masses of 20+ yr old wanna be wizards and witches, running amok in the parking lot whilst straddling home made brooms, looking for all the world like a flock of cloak clad retards, all to play a ground based game of Quidditch -
2 parter is complete laziness and cowardness of adapting the text. Seriously I would have settled for a good solid 3 hour film but instead...now they are going to fucking angst up the HELL of the tent sequences. This fucking sucks, but oh well.
Seriously I don't know how the FUCK they didn't convince Cauron to do it? I mean the final battle in Hogwarts was basically a text for shot translation of the 20 minute battle sequence in Children of Men. If that wasn't a love note from JKR to Cuaron to come back...make the films good again, I don't know what is. I said this before in another post but I'll post it again:
I'd hate for the rumour of a 2 parter to be true you know why? Because that means Cuaron will be less likely to direct. An installment in two parts is just far too much fat for Cuaron to probably bear. If he were to direct something like that, you might as well call the installments as such.
1st Part of Deathly Hallows = Beginning up to Entering Hogwarts again will have the title PoA 2: The Return of Good Filmmaking.
2nd Part of Deathly Hallows 90 minutes of the Hogwarts battle with a 30 minute long one shot scene without pause. It will have the title Children of Men 2.
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Prisoner of Azkaban was the shit. How could they go from Cuaron to the clown shoes of Yates for the rest of the flicks!?!? LAME!
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Mar 14, 2008 7:43:49 AM CDT
They've needed two-parters since Goblet of Fire
by damned if i can login
What's the big deal? We all know about the greed factor...no secret there.But in this case it should be seen as a win-win situation. They get their mountain of cash and we get a more detailed adaptation. So much has been left out of the last two films. What we've seen wasn't that bad, but when half the book is discarded it really gives any screen version a rushed, disjointed feeling. I only wish they had done this starting with part 4.And I agree with Mr. Gorilla. One day (ONE DAY) someone will produce a faithful, detailed adaptation of Lord of the Rings. Then all the suckers of Peter Jackson's crank might actually see we've been right all along. But wah wah wah he made gazillions and won Oscars.....crank suckers.
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