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Two-Face confirmed for DARK KNIGHT (by Harvey Dent himself)!
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. In case there was any doubt, Aaron Eckhart confirms that you will not only see Harvey Dent as Two-Face in THE DARK KNIGHT, but that his arc will continue into the next BATMAN film. He also has some carefully chosen words about how they're bringing Two-Face to life...
Does Harvey get scarred in this movie or will we have to wait until the next one to see that?
Harvey Dent turns into Harvey Two-Face in this movie. So that answers your question better. [Laughs]
Have you filmed a lot of scenes in makeup?
I have done scenes as Harvey Two-Face. It’s interesting. I won’t tell you exactly what we’re going for, but I think that I can say that it will use all of today’s technology to create this character. He’s going to be interesting, and I think that’s what makes this character important in the movie—you get to see him as he was before, as in the comic books. Harvey is a very good guy in the comic books. He’s judicious. He cares. He’s passionate about what he loves and then he turns into this character. So you will see that in this film.
You can read the rest of the short interview up at WizardUniverse.com. Thanks to "Bountytaker" for the heads-up!
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Harvey for Prez!
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Does he die in TDK, or are they going to recast him?
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The Caped Crusader
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I love that line in Batman Forever.
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See: Batman Forever/Batman & Robin, Spiderman 3....
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In next one.
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Spider-Man 3 had a ton of villains and it was the best in the series!
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I dont think him as Two Face will be a major plot point..not like hell kill him off in this one like they did venom
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Does he still flip that coin like in the cartoon?
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"Multiple Villians in same movie=CERTAIN FRANCHISE DEATH"
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I thought I remembered hearing a LONG time ago now that the 3rd film will be Two-Face as the villain with the backdrop being the trial of the Joker (for film #2 crimes). Is this still the case? Obviously they'd have to recast Joker, but I just wonder now if they're removing all mention of the character completely.
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Fuckin' lack of an edit button....
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THINK ABOUT THE FUTURE!!!
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That's still the Joker. He'll change into Two-Face towards the end of the freakin' movie, setting him up to be the villain in the next one. Chill out, fanboys.
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yeah, Batman Begins really killed the Batman franchise with it's 3 villains. (It's tough to pull off, but with the right talent you can do it.)
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David Mitchell, the English comedy actor. He really does look the part.
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"Where do all these guys come from?"
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And that worked out well, I thought. I'm thinking Two Face will be near the very end, just a small bit of him before it ends.
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I think maybe the picture of the action figure (not to mention the other interview with this revelation in it sometime last year) beat this to it.
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on his face. Calls himself Two Face." and Batman goes, "Harvey Dent? I'll get him."
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I fucking hated that name. What's the reasoning? Was it something before Batman Forever? Two Face or Harvery Dent, please.
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supposed to be the central focus of the movie over the Joker. I heard that they planned to first start marketing with the Joker and then give Two-Face a marketing campaign with the next trailer and posters and such.
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I mean, okay, its great when your 5, but it really doesn't hold up at all. Sure, its better than the awful Superman 1, but Supes 2 is also, at times, laughably awful. As far as best superhero movies, that would go to Spider-Man 1&2, XMen2, and Batman Begins.
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Its gwanna suck if they have to recast him, but hopefully someone else will step up to the plate in part 3 if need be.
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From the leaked action figure that looked so disappointingly like the Tommy Lee Jones version?
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just sayin
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also had multiple villains, that didnt kill the franchise. You know what also had multiple villains? aliens
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Darth, Boba Fett, Stormtroopers, The Emperor, Wampas
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If I understand it correctly, I win double the prize money...
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Have you seen the Richard Donner Cut? It's pretty sweet. Much better then the original. As well as your other choices for best superhero movies....yeah, I have to agree. :)
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He was my original 'dream casting' for The Joker and I'm EXTREMELY happy with how Ledger pulled off the role, but if The Joker plays even a minor role in the third film then I say get Phoenix to portray him. Or call in Guy Pearce finally, and get all those rumors started back up.
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I could see the Joker saying that when he...it's a Woodstock thing...never mind.No, they can't recast the Joker. I know it sucks that he can't be in the third film but it just wouldn't work. Ledger's Joker should be the defining Joker. Anything else would be a lame imitation or a performance too different that it would be jarring. In any case, it would carry a lot of baggage that just wouldn't be worth it.
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Zombies. People fighting the zombies. Consumerism. Bikers.
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Wow. And Superman 2 rocks, even with its admittedly corny moments (Planet Houston, anytime Non is on screen, they don't know what water is?).
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what water is?
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Did Laserpants just say Superman 1 was awful?
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and that was the best superhero movie of ALL TIME
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And Superman II may be a B movie, but it's great for the fact that the World goes to shit just so Superman can get laid. And Superman III has the awesome moment of Superman downing shots of Johnny Walker and superflicking peanuts at the wall.
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it put the Uck in SUCK!
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Superman 2 (richard donner cut) is much better than the theatrical version
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Mar 06, 2008 5:06:08 PM CST
Abbot and Costello meet Frankenstein had multiple villians!
by alfred_packer
..and for a "real" example... The Maltese Falcon had multiple villians...
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No thanks. Just seemed kinda slapped together.
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Carmen Falcone, Rahs Al Guhl and Scarecrow. And that movie seemed to have balanced them quite nicely.
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tha bruthahood. word.
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You guys are giving me a villain in my pants.
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Mar 06, 2008 5:09:49 PM CST
I wish people would give up on the 'multiple villains' crap.
by raw_bean
The best of the X-Men films, X2, had multiple villains split over two separate factions. And Batman Begins was chock full of them.
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had some awesome villains
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Dooku, Sidious, Clones, Grevious, Anakin, Darth Vader,
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was a great intellectual property!
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is a great property trading game!
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"The awful Superman 1" - WTF are you talking about? Have you seen anything in popular cinema recently that equals the shot of Marlon Brando's face turning to glass and the camera going through the eye to reveal Superman standing in the Fortress of Solitude? That's movie magic my friend. Feel free to point out an equivalent moment from Superman Returns.
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traded my girlfriend for a horse!
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if you hit "enter" it's exactly like clicking on "submit". So I don't need to do both, right?
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What do you have the intellect of a 5 year old?
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Mar 06, 2008 5:17:21 PM CST
I wonder if they're going to do it like The Long Halloween
by reel american hero
Because I liked the depth they added to Dent's origin. I like how Nolan seems to be doing it, setting it up like a continuing storyline and not just here's a Batman adventure. And then here's another one, and so on.. -
are nicer to "fuck" than horses.
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someone who has never fucked a horse!
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Thanks for confirming something that everyone has known for months now. Did you guys even post the Two-Face action figure pics?
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BOOYAH
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Since virals are starting up again..
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Was an amazing story, and I would love for the movies to follow that arc.
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Where did that come from? I might as well have said WAZZZAAAAAPPPPP
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I have been bested. Well done, sir
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And also the world.
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as a D.A. I always thought he should have been feared as the DA, unflinching and single minded like Bats. Hope that's how they depict him. I have faith.
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is my favourite brand of cassette tape. THE END
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"Harvey Two Face"? Because that's dumber than donkeyshit.
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"Shadow of the Bat"
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and the majority of the movie was The Riddler
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LONG HALLOWEEN didn't "add depth" to Harvey's character, so much as reuse material from stories like "Eye of the Beholder," from BATMAN ANNUAL #14. In fact, by comparison to other, better stories, LONG HALLOWEEN is positively superficial and one-note. They didn't even go into Harvey's father, just hinting at it in a throw-away line! Harvey just comes off as a "really angry guy," not someone with serious psychological issues stemming from a lifetime of abuse. LONG HALLOWEEN was beautifully illustrated piece of crap.
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That would be pretty fun.
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Mostly because it was all about Singer jerking off all over the overrated Donner films, and transferring his own gay emo martyr complex onto Supes. For me, they still haven't made a good Superman movie. I'm still waiting. All I have are the animated series (Supes and the various Justice Leagues), and the comics (ACTION COMICS current arc being fan-fuckin'-rastic).
As far as equivalent scenes of wonder in recent cinema, more or less any shot in either Pan's Labyrinth or Children of Men makes mincemeat of any shot in Donnerman. -
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...over at batman-on-film.com? "AICN CLUES IN TO THE PRESENCE OF TWO-FACE IN TDK!" Is this news? I thought he showed up in a teaser over-the-shoulder shot in a Wizard World trailer or whatever that con was in Chicago. Bartender: "Harvey Dent...I heard you were dead..." Dent: "Half..." In fact, from what the director himself says, the movie is about Wayne and Dent, with Joker being more of an elemental force that moves the plot forward, like "the shark in Jaws". I thought we all knew this already. Sure, maybe it's more implied than said outright, but they sure imply the fuck out of it. Didn't think we needed Aaron Ekhart to spell it out in semaphore for it to be obvious.
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to have him turn already and have the whole Joker thing, it seems a bit much. I'm a big fan of Eckhart's though so I'm glad he's not just a cameo for this film. Can't wait to see it.
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And they were independent, empowered, and still sexay baby!
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...is not an absolute equation.
2+2 will always be 4.
But, come on folks, it all depends on the story and skill of those in creative control.
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Maybe it'll change my mind. Maybe.
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Mar 06, 2008 6:23:13 PM CST
This is why the last and all future Superman movies won't work
by i dunno
There is too much of a mix between what did and didn't work in the Donner films. You're not going to top Williams' score or the production design of Krypton, the escape ship, the Fortress of Solitude or the performance of Christopher Reeve himself.
Ok, yeah so obviously you can improve the FX and get a better Lex Luthor but you still either have the choice of keeping all the above mentioned elements and keeping continuity or rebooting the franchise but with what the filmmakers think are better elements than have already been done. It's something that Singer has never been able to reconcile. -
is USS Cygnuts ever right about ANYthing?
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There is some great production design, some great moments, and a great score. But stuff like Supes going on the flying date with a beaky, almost crone-like Lois Lane was AWFUL. Oh, and turning back time by making the Earth go backwards? I mean, cmon! Terrible. Like I said, when your 5 all of that doesn't matter, when you get older it just seems worse and worse. Its camp. And camp is cool, but its not good, its so-bad-its-good. Ya feel me?
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Mrs. Robinson, Mr. Robinson, Carl Smith, etc.
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Wait a second. In the Donnerverse they manage to turn back time be reversing the rotating of the Earth... twice? Thats worse then retarded. Its retarded and lazy.
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"You're a Freak...Like me!" Everyone asumes he's talking to Bats, but I always figured he was talking to harvey after the "accident". Just a thought.
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things are shaping up to be that way.
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Has multiple villians.
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I was kinda thinkin that might be a possibility too.
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Thats just dumb. Flat out dumb.
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The Axis Powers! Classic villian empire archetypes.
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Armies of em in fact!
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They was also the protagonists!
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Dude, it was crazy, there were like 10 of em! I fought em off though... with my bare hands! I was like all Batman and shit on em!
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Sorry if someone already said that, but it did, and it was great. Multiple villains are fine if handled properly, and if the hero isn't lost in the fray. It's a juggling act, but Nolan handled it well last time, so I have confidence in him.
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The Wicked Witch of the West, the Flying Monkeys, the talking trees, etc.
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How many Batvillains were in Begins? Ra's, Scarecrow, Falcone and Tsasz? That's four! And you guys come all over yourselves for that one.
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The Green Goblin and Tobey Maguire's homosexuality and it ended up being great. Multiple villians are fine as long as the movie does not get sidetracked getting them to "work together" like the other Batfilms with the exception of begins. You didn't know Scarecrow was working for Ras Al Ghul until the third act. Carmine Falcone connected with Scarecrow, but they kept it tangential and he was merely a bridge to the middle man then the main villain, Ras Al Ghul. I am not assuming that The Dark Knight handles it well, since I have not seen it, but the first film has provided an indicia of reliability, and this movie is helmed by nearly all of the same folks from the first film. Although many speak highly of Batman Returns, the villian mashup, which seemed to be the point of the rest of the Batfag series, died because there was no real or logical connection with the villains. Spider-man 3 pulls even lamer shit at the end when Venom says "Hey Sandman, I have not seen you the whole movie, wanna team up?"
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It's pretty obvious CG will be involved when he says 'they're using all of today's technology' or whatever. He wouldn't say that if it was just a straight makeup job. It will be good if it's like in Begins where they used CG to make the fucked up character faces when people hallucinated with the Scarecrow's gas. Perhaps he will shoot scenes with half his face covered with green. Though I would prefer it if they went the way of having him like a realistic burns victim, with the face deformed, as opposed to what we usually get. The real question now is HOW he gets the acid in his face. Will Batman be responsible? Will The Joker do it? It's sad to think the story could be fucked up because The Joker now can't appear in the third movie. Though maybe we've all been blindsided and The Joker WILL die in TDK. It would be better if he was locked in Arkham. Perhaps they could use a silent Joker for movie 3, and we only see the back of his head in the cell. What about 'Two-Face' for the title of movie 3? Or 'Gotham'
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This Two-Face looks nothing like the Tommy Lee Jones version. His bad side hair is non-existent, his eyelids are missing, he has a red eye, and his mouth is eaten away around his teeth, so he has exposed teeth. Yeah, that really sounds like the same character.
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Or wait... maybe I'm confusing that with Evil Dead. Or my dreams. Or that hentai comic I published.
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I'm sick of Two-Face being called Harvey Two-Face. They did it in Forever, and it sounds like they might do it in TDK. His name is Two-Face not Harvey fucking Two-Face.
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Falcone, Scarecrow, Raas Al Ghul, corrupt cop, corrupt businessmen. There were plenty of villains.
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Cool.
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Some great moments, but it really did not hold up all that well. I mean, did anyone ever notice, in either cut, that if you suspend disbelief about the spinning the Earth backwards to turn back time (only on Earth and no where else, apparently), there are huge inconsistencies with the "damage" undone at the end and everyone's memory of it. Don't get me started on the giant Glad wrap S thrown at the evil Kryptonians, the chamber nonsene, the multiple, possible holographic Supermen (which could have been explained with some Kryptonian technology in the Fortress of Solitude, but was not even addressed). Corny, cringeworthy lines aside, it was 1979-1980, so it is not such a huge deal, there was no reason to have such a shrill Lois Lane. Not that Smallville gets it better. Lois is still shrill, but she if totally fuckable. Plus, she is a nude Uwe Boll alumnus. Man, her career is dead.
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GOTHAM CITY perhaps?
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I always liked Harvey Two Face. It sounds like an old timey villain, like something from the 40's.
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Thanks AICN!
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The best villians are those that are defeated and just keep coming back. The arch-nemesis. Joker has always been Batman's foil, killing him off or not doing another movie with him would be like having Darth Vader die in the first Death Star. Yea, it sucks that Ledger bit it, but from what we've seen so far he did a fantastic fucking job creating a character. Not allowing that charcter to go on would be a huge insult to him in my opinion.
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That had multiple villians and its easily one of the top 5 best comic book movies ever made. Really the only multiple villians mess was Spider-Man 3 because it just seemed so jammed together and forced and rushed.
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X2 was a fluke. A really good fluke. Unless you want to do a LOTR style 3 1/2 hour epic, 1 villian at a time please. Hopefully, Two Face only appears in the last few minutes as a setup, as the Joker card was in the first film
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TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION!!!!!!!!
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http://tinyurl.com/35wmwp
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But that looks a helluva lot like Michelle Pfeiffer's outfit from Batman Returns -- and pretty much the same pose she struck at the end of the movie. I'd guess after the Halle Berry fiasco, WB wants to distance themselves from Catwoman for a while.
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they de aged her like beowulf
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In ultra tight costume.
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Now Jolene Blalock... YES! We should have them settle this with Jello wrestling match.
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give her a few months, then she can seven of nine my cock... whatever that might mean
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Awesome!
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14/88
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There's Simon, and Paula's drug dealer.
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The Others, the Freighter people, hell, some of the main characters are bad.
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Trump, Omarosa, that British dude,
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Was cast as Two Face. He was in form as an actor. Yet within the first five minutes. The action was so hammy. Like a bad pirate movie. I was so gutted.
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you know it would work.
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He perfected in the Pirates movies.
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neither of them resemble anything like the character of the comics, blooming Star Trek fanboys can only cast within the limited range of any female in a Star Trek uniform! You want someone who would look good in a catsuit, not too tall either since Christian Bale is not giant at 6'. Both those two ST rejects are far too tall to act alongside him and neither look like they have street savvy of a one-time prostitute-cum-socialite. Someone like Natalie Portman would suit the part, being not too tall, very nice physique without having over the top boobs, and can appear street edged as well as socialite glamour to fit both sides of the character in the comic who rises from her prostitute days to he double life as a socialite/cat-burglar. Mark Wahlberg would have made an awesome Harvy Dent/Two-Face, even better than Matt Damon. Ben Foster for the Riddler and Jack Black for the Penguin; there all the main casting done!
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of course you are all correct! USS Cygnus just speaks/writes without using what little brain matter he has to censor his nonsensical ramblings. he's like a dumber version of anchorite. all the conservative nutjobbery, half the brain.
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Not really "news" is it?
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Would have made an AWESOME Two-Face. Screw Warner Bros for not letting him take the role and instead buying his contract out (His contracted stated that he was to play Two-Face should he ever be used in a film--it had a buyout clause). Would have been awesome to see him give it a stab.
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I'd rather have Kate Beckinsale as Selena Kyle. But a Jeri Ryan vs Jolene Blalock Jello match is just too good an opprotunity to pass up!
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Plus, she can't act worth a damn.
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It sounds and looks STOOPID!!!
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Penguin, Catwoman, Riddler and Joker. And they worked together to fight Batman and Robin.
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Search your loins, you know this to be true.
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They're just really small. She's pixie waify like that. But yeah, she is actually a bad actress. It don't matter though cause she cute.
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OMG totally. Does that make me gay cause I kinda wanna fuck Ellen Page till she screams my name in ecstasy and joypain. I know its wrong.
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Writhing beneath me in ecstasy and joypain. Ok. Time to get the cleanex.
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Batman: "Here's your costume. Try it on for size."
Robin: "The blog I will. It's fugly, Batdude."
Batman: "It's designed as an homage to your family's costumes."
Robin: "Looks more like an homage to pedophile clowns. That thing is not going on this bod, Uncle Brucey."
Batman: "For Christ sake."
Robin: "Jeebus."
Batman: "What?"
Robin: "Say Jeebus, not Christ. You sound ancient when you do that."
Batman: "Fuck me ..."
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Alex, his Droogs, the Cops, the Institution, the Intelligentsia, a Corrupt Govt., everyone, really.
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She's taking over the franchise after Nolan's done. Its gonna be this really irritating chatty thing aimed at wanna-be hipster youths. Geeknation explodes into rage. Buys dvd anyway.
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could possibly be the movie that is so bad it implodes on itself like a blackhole a destroys the universe
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Harvey Dent/ 2 Face was a mildly to under-developed gimmick of a character until the likes of Bruce Timm and Co. rolled into town and portrayed him as well as they did in the animated series. Then came Jeph Loeb and Tim sale with Long Halloween/ Dark Victory.
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Two Face is WHITE - There endeth that miscasting horror from that outlandish era of Batman flicks with a fat Joker and a midget Batman and mutant Penguin eating raw fish! Thank God for Batman Begins aka Batman Properly!
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Maybe I'm nuts, but I bet he'd do a good job.
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That would be cool, I reckon.
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That would be cool, I reckon.
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I can spell.
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...you come on here...say something stupid and it's almost immediately debunked by several more informed and rational talkbackers. Why do you bother!?!?
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Oscar winner!
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Am I wrong? Did they EVER call Two Face "Harvey Two Face" in the comics? This, to me, is a BAD remnant of BATMAN FOREVER (which was a BAD movie...stop trying to deny it). I mean even in LONG HALLOWEEN which is sort of the more realistic take on Two Face's origin, I believe it's still just TWO FACE....please, tell me if I'm mistaken.
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and pretend they're the Bush Administration.
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Batman: Blowjob.
Robin: Gay
Batman: Cock
Joker: Boner
Batman: Snoogins
Robin: Snoogins
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Before revealing such a surprise. Is it possible to go online without having a movie you're looking forward to spoiled?
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NO CONTACTS!
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I'd like to see Joseph Gordon-Levitt as a young computer-geek turned Riddler. Morena Baccarin as Catwoman. and Nick Frost as Penguin.
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Also a very good choice! bravo Juggernaut125! excellent pick!
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Just do everything that Singer didn't do. Y'know, like READ a Superman comic book once in a while. Seems simple enough, doesn't it?
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Meow.
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hell yeah for Joseph Gordon-Levitt...if they're gonna keep this gritty and more realistic, having him would allow you to have a character like the Riddler in a post-Carrey universe...man, now I'm thinking of the possibility! he could hack some sort of Times Square-ish giant screen and post his riddles to the masses...or some virus that hacks into everyone's PC through the internet with a riddle that hypnotizes them...
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villain a la Justin Long.
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Where's Storm's accent?
Why didn't wolverine smell that it was Mystique on top of him and not jean grey? Prof. X would never freeze and entire mall. Piss poor foreshadowing. Especially when he could just freeze the 2 mutants. Prof. X would never infiltrate the white house. Besides, that scene was just awkward/melodramatic. This movie is loaded with poorly placed forced in your face foreshadowing Prof. X far too easily subdued by Stryker's son. Of all the places to crash, the x-jet crashes in the ONE spot in the entire globe where magneto happens to be. Nobody fights anything except for wolverine. (This complaint goes for the 1st movie as well. Wolverine vs the world while everybody sits back)Of all the x-men stories to be told, this was a pretty lame one. A movie with a global premise ends with a handful of people bickering in a warehouse. Where was wolverine when he was away between x-1 and x-2? He said he was going to find out about his past, and came back with nothing? Why did he leave to begin with? Wolverine was a bit dry in this movie. He was a lot more fun in the first one. Who cares about the lady deathstrike fight? She doesn't say anything in the whole movie. She's just a ninja with claws. Just one more thing for wolverine to fight. The x-jet didn't have to take off. They could have hovered in the vicinity and searched for jean's body. Overall, what is this movie about? "Let's kill the mutants." "No don't kill us" That's the plot. So much is thrown at us and none of it is strung together. Where the hell was cyclops? This movie has an awesome opening, and its just downhill from there. -
but I don't know how he'll translate to the screen (I've justifiably blocked out Batman Forever). We'll see. Even in the comics, he's never a character I truly cared about...because he was always two parts cool, and one part silly.
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That's three parts silly.
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Yes I know Billy Dee black, and yes I know Two-Face is white, and damn it, Two-Face has always, always, always been my favorite Batman villian...and I even hate these sorts of miscasting ideas...you know, like when people wanted to cast Colin Salmon as James Bond? I'm not racist or anything, but hell no, Bond is white, not black. Just the way he is. STILL, with a name like BILLY DEE, hiw Two-Face could have been awesome...
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yeah, and 3 parts awesome...also there is a zest of lime
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I have never read a comic book in my life, so I can't comment on most of your complaints for X2, but a couple I have to address.the plane is made of metal, and Magneto drew it to him, as I understood it. the plane had to leave, because they had to hurry to get to the white house before the president gives his speech. hello? remember how it started in the oval office, then it ends there? it's called a bookend. and yeah, I went to film school.feel free to continue hating now...
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My God, dude. That was one of the funniest things I've read on this site in a while. Thank you.
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x-men 2 is one of the best. ever. only two other superheroes movies in existence join the elite rank - begins & spidey2. unless you want to count in the spandex-free variety, then unbreakable belongs in there as well. the rest are all mediocre pieces of crap.
like someone said above, two-face was a gimmick turned into great character via the animated series.
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Pefect.
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the first franchise. And what blows me away is that a Warner Bros. executive back then also said - we have to many villains. None of these fucking guys ever learn.
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it's more we barely saw the title character, the hero, in the early films. Even splitting time is going too far. Have all the villains you want, but don't lose sight of the main reason the audience goes to see the film. As Batman Begins showed, Batman and his story is a much more interesting character than any of his villains.
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and that girl from Lost as Batgirl. That Lost girl is beautiful, why isn't she in any films yet?
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Ray Winstone as the Penguin. I would've said Philip Seymour Hoffman, but it'd probably end up seeming too M:I-3.
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can you geeks be more original in your thoughts? must you repeat that over and over and over...???
it's the number of villains that's the problem, it's the writer/director juggling them. as pointed out already by examples, more than one villain CAN WORK! 2 hours is a looooot of movie time. the only time many villains dont work is when you have a lazy writer and director behind the wheel. -
..is not a strong enough motivation to turn a person from a fair-minded individual into a master criminal. They should not continue to repeat this mistake in the Batman movies. Facial scars as motivation is juvenile.
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For crying out loud, can't a comic-book movie have a real, complex person as a 'villian'... I don't even like the word villian to describe them.
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ray romano as the riddler
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It was confirmed at wizard world chicago months ago, and Aaron Eckhart told another media outlet months ago too. What the fuck is going on at this site?
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lousy writers, producers and directors just happen to screw the pooch when it comes to it.
I can list many flicks containing just one baddie as the "villain of the month" that are far worse than Spider-Man 3. Actually, "multiple villains" would be the way to go if today's producers were ballsy enough to pull a Star Wars and try to create a whole universe as soon as the first film, instead of just slavishly follow the Spider-Man pattern because "that's what's working". -
Superman 2 is pretty shit but better than the 'awful' superman 1? what the fuck. Superman 1 isn't that good sure, but the first half is great and that alone means it's better than superman 2.
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If you ignore him, maybe he'll just go away (and die.... a horrible, horrible grizzly death where his own testicles are fed to him spread over a bagel as he bleeds to death whilst wearing a tutu and scuba flippers).
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Just sayin..
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Mar 07, 2008 5:48:02 AM CST
Or you could just go here and see the action figure from Toy Fai
by trazadone
http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/20/first-look-two-face-from-the-dark-knight/
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or Dent, Harvey Two-Face in the phone book.
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to have Billy Dee Williams in a one minute cameo as Harvey Dent in Batman. Then in Batman Forever or Robin, or whatever the hell one it was we have Tommy Lee Jones. I mean come on you don't have to have the exact same actor in the role, but he should have put a nobody in as Dent since you knew Billy Dee was never going to play Two-Face. It's not even the fact that he is black, although that might have upset some purists, it was the fact that Billy Dee is too cool, suave, and has a moustache. That is not the Harvey Dent we knew.
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Yeah, that was bugging the crap out of me too-hope to Christ that they dont call him Harvey Two Face in the film! Anyway, didnt Eckhart confirm this, like, a year ago? I mean I've properly KNOWN that Two Face was in this for AAAAYYYYGGGES....nevertheless, could not be more hyped for this film-I had an insanely crappy Christmas but it was instantly made better by the Dark Knight trailer...seriously, the first time I saw the pirated version on YouTube, it was pretty much the most excited Ive been in a loooong looong time
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that the Joker will survive in the film....hopefully it will be one of those vague "he might be dead but he's pretty much not" kinda thing and he's still a threat in the third....Nolan has said time and time again that he has a problem with killing Villains (after all even Ras MIGHT have survived the train crash as he is vaguely "immortal")and I think he understand that Joker is Bats ARCH nemesis-he's the worst of the worst, the biggest bad he'll ever have to face and he'll keep coming back again and again....
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thats because burton is a complete moron who couldnt direct a good movie if it jumped up and bit him in the ass.
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Wonder whatever happened to her?
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It's Harvey Dent and Two-Face. That's it.
Crap, I'm having a bad BATMAN FOREVER flashback all of the sudden...(Shudder)
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Mar 07, 2008 7:39:31 AM CST
Steelerman, I think you're in the minority, me
by grammaton cleric binks
personally I like some of his movies, and despise others. The first Batman was great, but there was the obvious flaw I mentioned. Returns was pretty good. I've never seen Nightmare before Christmas, and liked the Willy Wonka remake, but I really thought Corpse Bride was overrated crap, but to each their own.
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for the riddler
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Just to reitierate...HOT HOT HOT!!!
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... on calling the character "Harvey Two-Face" instead of just "Two-Face" as in the comics? Is there some sort of copyright issue going on here?
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You know, a bit like Dr Spaceman off 30 Rock. Get it right, people...
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Raz, Scarecrow, and Falcone. As long as theirs no cartoonish teaming up of big villians it'll be fine. Chances are two-face will redeem himself by helping to take down Joker. Just like Spiderman 3.
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you are just boring. stick to the news to cunt.
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Read a fucking comic.
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The Scarecrow was just a minor character, though he was the "villain". Oh and the guy who said Empire strikes back had multiple villains, you forgot the monster in the asteroid field. And Lando, at least half of the time, before he redeemed himself. And the ugnaughts too. They were going to destroy threepio!
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I can't imagine that phrase ever being used in a sentence that is meant to compliment something.
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As I understand it, Nolan always planned on keeping the Joker alive but now that Health is gone I’m wondering if he may simply opt to keep the character locked up and away from any further films. I think recasting a new Joker, while certainly feasible, will be difficult if Heath has nailed the role as perfectly as I’m predicting. I also think Nolan and the rest of the cast might have reservations about recasting out of a sense of camaraderie and respect for Ledger, which I would completely understand. Regardless, the Two Face story arch should carry Nolan and the rest of the cast easily into the third film, perhaps aided by some ancillary villains like Killer Croc. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind seeing Bane brought to the big screen if done properly, though I could do without the whole “Broken Bat” plotline. Lastly, to the guy bad-mouthing The Long Halloween, you’re certainly entitled to your opinion but understand that your view is not widely shared and for good reason. The Long Halloween offered a much more compelling back story for Dent than the original origin and cemented, at least in my opinion, the deep respect and friendship between Dent and Batman which makes their eventual adversarial relationship that much more compelling and tragic.
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to take the attention off of Heath Ledger. They dont know what to do about commercials/trailers and advertisting now. Would using Ledger in ads offend people? Will it turn people off of the movie? I think youll see Two Face played up and the Joker played down in the next trailer and all the other advertising from now on. I just hope they dont cut any of the Joker out of the movie. That would be a huge mistake, Im sure Ledger would not have wanted that to happen.
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in the animated series he was big bad harv, and harvey "two face" it bugged me at first, but we have Alphonse "Scarface" Capone.
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From what I've heard, that appears to have been the intention all along. They were going to be doing a phased promotional campaign where each "phase" concentrated on a different character in the film. They defintely won't be cutting any of the Joker/Ledger out of the film. But they may have had to cut his phase a little short. Unfortunately.
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http://tinyurl.com/26qecr
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I saw on darkhorizons.com of leaked images of Two-Face, his face isn't symmetrically scarred, its like flesh has been ripped off and his left eye was red like the terminator, I dunno if it was real, but knowing Nolan and the *sort of* realistic take the series has, it seemed like a viable design.
http://tinyurl.com/2jdvsq
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hopefully the two-face story will be minor and mainly just a setup for the next film.
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...Batman Begins. You halfwit.
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He was NEVER "Harvey/Two-Face" in the comic books. If he was, I'll need to hear the title and issue number, please. That phrase was just one of Joel Shitmaker's creations, illustrating he had never picked up a comic to begin with.
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And does anyone remember when Anthony Michael Hall claimed he was cast in a "super-secret, multi-million dollar role" where he would play sort of an anti-Batman-type character?? They told us he's some nobody-reporter in the movie, but now there's a Slade Wilson action figure in the line-up? Wouldn't having Deathstroke show up (totally works in Nolan's universe, by the way) be a super-secret multi-million anti-Batman character? And if Hall's role as a nobody-reporter was so super-secret, why did they tell us? My prediction: We've got one more villain they're trying to keep quiet.
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CALL IT...CALL IT, FRIENDO.
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Just to reiterate... For the millionth time! This is like reading all the "Damn you, Michael Bay"s in a Transformers TB. OMG! There were multiple villains in Transformers! But there were also multiple heroes! Maybe movies with too many heroes suck, too!
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Cause he was in the first one.
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http://www.superherohype.com/news/topnews.php?id=6888
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Harry call your lawyer now!!!
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and a Scarecrow figure is also listed..maybe he'll return in the 3rd flick and be the full on Scarecrow, not a douche in a suit with a bag on his head.
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Looks like we have more viral marketing to speculate about!
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No, really. OK, it was a pre-recorded message but the man wants my help in his campaign for district attorney. I told him to quit calling me! Let Gotham burn!
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I think the girl from Lost is beautiful
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So far we have Joker, Two Face, Batman, Bruce, Gordon, Harvey Dent, Rachel, maybe Harley Quinn cameo, Fox, Caine. Dude, that's a lot of characters.
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It wasn't inherently Danny DeVito's fault; it was Burton's obsession with bestial outsiders rejected by society. He took several ideal characteristics that rightly belonged to the Penguin: namely slick business dealing, hypocrisy, wealth and gangsterism, and gave them away to someone he cooked up himself to be the Penguin's enabler : Max Schreck. The way to the penguin is back; give him back his slick social status; his charm and his wealth. And I loved someone's David Mitchell suggestion: he's not ugly but he has these weird round black irises and pale skin: all he'd need is a nose and an umbrella.
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i have no doubt that your right about me being in the minority, i will admit that i did enjoy willie wonka, but the rest of his movies just did nothing for me.
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Yeah, cause monies like Lord of the Rings and Star Wars suffer from "too many characters"...
PS, Batman and Bruce...ARE THE SAME PERSON! OMG!
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