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Images From The Set Of The New X-FILES Movie Reveal...
Merrick here...
Some images from the filming of the new X-FILES movie have appeared at Flynet Online.
While not particularly surprising (all things considered), these images can be considered SPOILER MATERIAL!
So, proceed with caution if you want to remain completely untainted (huh huh - he said "taint"!) regarding the new movie.
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Mar 05, 2008 1:49:23 PM CST
By the way, where did the "Liev taking off his shirt" pic go?
by tonagan
Gotta be quick around here, I guess.
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I'm not an X-Files fan but I remember seeing that before.
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OMG, WTF WTF! The pic just spoiled the movie!
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Although I thought we were going to get a pic of Lance Henriksen or Robert Patrick or Nicolas Lea. Still, nice to know they're playing the romance angle. I still wish they'd ended the show with the kiss...
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then hopefully there's a scene where x to the z pile drives amanda peet.
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Need we remind you of an in-season moment... I just can't remember the episode.
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Just cuz there is a camera there, they could just be having a moment together, cheating on their spouses. In fact that IS what they're doing, and using the camera as a cover!!
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Talk about blue balls.
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Now throw her in the back seat and give her the alien fucking she deserves! That would be a good spoiler!
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It was in its prime in the mid/late 90s. I'm gonna take a guess and say the core audience were males....about 18-30 or up?
It's been too long. Kids dont care about this movie. Teens/college kids I think will barely care. So that leaves the old farts who still latch onto the faded interest of the past.
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They should bring back Mulder and Scully in a scifi/supernatural "Hart to Hart" type series.
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Looks like a kiss on the cheek to me. It looks like he is consoling her over something...maybe a loss?
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Does this thing rewrite cannon? Anyone know?
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really don't like this twist, the movie is going to have to work very hard to earn this moment... can it?
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...over the pitiful box office performance of X-Files 2.
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If memory serves right it was a New Years Eve episode that also featured Frank Black. I think they shared a little mistletoe smooch. At least the photo shows something, other than those "getting out of car" or "walking down the street" scoops.
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"..Batman and Iron Man and Indiana are kicking our ass...so sorry...so sorry..."
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Spoiler material? More like straight-to-DVD material.
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It looks like they are all midgets.
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co-starring Bishop. The kissed at midnight. Also, Leonard Betts ALMOST got some!
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Not only did Mulder and Scully kiss multiple times on the show, he eventually became the father of her baby (yes, Seasons 8 and 9 sucked, but that's what happened). They're a couple, have been since the last two seasons of the show. Indeed, the last episode of the show has them hiding out in a motel room together -- as a couple.
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Yes, but X-Files was sputtering on its last legs, as it limped to the series finale. The movie came out in '88, when it was at its peak in viewership. And promised to answer long standing questions the series posed. And still made about 86 million US, which nowadays would be a disappointment (see Mission Imp 3). Add to that the reruns that had run on TNT for years, and the fact that any fan can turn to their 100 plus episode box sets to get a "File fix". When you have a movie franchise character that has been portrayed in 3 films, fans are curious for the next installment, like a series of novels. I'm glad that Carter and Co are creating a new X Files movie, I just think that the non die-hard fan thinks.."So?"
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And after it was revealed that after it was revealed that Mulder was the father of Scully's baby, Carter said that the New Year's Eve kiss in that one episode was followed up with some humpin', just off camera and 'on the down low' and I think that's when he said the baby was conceived.
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This summer?
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She's just so upset they still don't have a REALLY AWESOME DVD set of The Lone Gunmen TV show.
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they have such a complicated relationship...
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Pancriatic Cancer.
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is gonna die with 5 weeks?! Bilboring, you have just made me a sad panda...
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... were in both National Enquirer and Fox News... both outlets not noted for even a picogram's worth of journalistic integrity. Hope it's not true. I gotta give Swayze props for Ghost... I can't stand that movie, but all you have to do is show it to any random chick and she'll end up spending the night. Works like a charm every time.
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It's not that it's "okay to resurrect Die Hard, Terminator, and Indy," (unless by "okay" you mean "kinda weird, and likely not successful by franchise standards, but probably successful in a money-in, money-out sort of way") and not okay for X-Files, it's just a recognition that X-Files hit its peak in terms of popularity and cultural impact a long time ago. And it sure faded after that. I mean, think about the US during the mid-90s, and the US now. Back then, US cultural awareness was that the world was basically benign, and getting better (communism gone, America ascendant , economy surging, etc.). In such a world, a show about shadowy, backdoor conspiracies involving stuff as non-quotidian as aliens and monsters plays well. A show about quiet conspiracies fully in charge of how the world runs was simultaneously fun and reassuring because it gave us creepy villains while ultimately sustaining the myth of supreme US power. But today, the US's cultural conceptions of itself are dramatically different. The US no longer appears unshakably in control--it is vulnerable (9-11), alienated and incompetent abroad (Iraq), and collapsing domestically (inflation, real estate market, gas prices, inept Katrina recovery, perceptions of border insecurity, etc.). In such an environment, does a show about investigators struggling to uncover monsters-of-the-week/a shadowy syndicate orchestrating events sound all that sensical? Probably not. It feels throw-backy. There is clearly nobody at the helm, so cancer-man and all the rest are much more comedic and concurrently less threatening. Although, that said, a movie that ignored all the ponderous story arc stuff from the show (ESPECIALLY the nonsense that came from about 1999 onward) and was instead about two monotonic FBI agents off in the woods someplace looking for like a skunk ape (or wolfman or goat sucker or whatever), and getting into prolix conversations about empiricism and science in their downtime, would be a nostalgia-inducing guilty pleasure.
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and it was in front of Lance Henrickson and his daughter...ugggh..
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Fuck 'em. The audience for this movie is old fans like me! And I wanna see it. It's nice to see a studio not care about the teen/20s demographic. To be honest, I never thought this movie would come to be, basically for the reasons everyone else has said. It's been too long. At least, that's what I figured movie execs would say. I also wonder if the likely smashing success of Indy 4 will make them realize they can have older dudes in their big movies. Yeah, I know they added a kid, but he's not the star.And yes, Mulder and Scully were a couple at series' end. But still, there wasn't many physical displays. I am curious to learn what they've been up to all this time.
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I miss all the taint gags.
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...have you been waiting to use "non-quotidian" in a sentence? I'm guessing a decade or two.
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would be if Frank Black ends up in the movie. Wasn't there a brief whisper he might? Ive been rewatching Millenium and that show is great. Strange though how Terry O'Quinn has managed to play three characters in the same universe. Once a sherrif on x-files, as Darius Micheau on the movie, and as one of the main reccuring characters on Millenium.
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I may be completely wrong, but I'd bet that this isn't set during the series timeframe, and may not even be a standalone episode as they've said it is. All pictures we've seen so far (except the one at Mulder's desk of the two of them) they haven't been wearing the traditional suits, now here's a pic of them kissing (possibly), so maybe this is actually a continuation of the last episode/invasion storyline? Maybe there are flashbacks that feature the lone gunmen, Mulder's old office etc? Wow, what a nerd I have become. Sorry world.
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I definitely agree--the Jose Chung episode was fantastic.
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don't you?
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Mulder and Scully shared an 8 sec kiss at the end of the episode "millennium", season 7. Oddly enough...Frank Black was in the episode.
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...Mulder and Scully arrive at a crime scene. Seems a local named Ed has been murdered. They approach a man standing over the body and ask what happened. He turns around and screeches, "ED... IS... DEAD...Ed is Dead!" ED... IS... DEAD... Ed is Dead!" ...um ...sorry... wrong Frank Black! Couldn't resist...
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...I limit my usage of the word non-quotidian to very non-quotidian circumstances.
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X-Files S2-S5 were the only good seasons. Season 1 was nothing but campy episodes, and season 6-9 relied WAAAAYYY too much on the mysteries with no real answers.
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...couldn't give a shit about this movie. Does anyone? Really? It's like Chris Carter and Fox are caught in a time-noodle that appears to the rest of us as if they are at least 10 years behind. Hey, wait!! That'd make a great X-Files episode!!
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yeah, I didn't watch the last few (several?) seasons. So I could be way off base here. But my sense of things now is that it's a lot harder to portray government/quasi-government secret intelligence agents as sinister unless you are making some sort of obtuse political point (and politics has really no place in x-files). I mean, there are surveys showing that a very large number of Americans are perfectly cool with secret government surveillance of communications. Today's atmosphere is just really different from that of the mid 90s, and so I don't think that x-files would play as well. I'm interested that you think it will be a werewolf/zombie/monster sort of movie, though, as my thoughts when I saw the trailer were "Oh crap, they're doing more space-monkey conspiracy stuff."
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Two tickets to 'Who Gives A Shit'!Pack your bags, and we'll leave TONIGHT!Why the fuck did FOX decide to spend money on this? The first movie was barely a movie! Bees?! Fucking BEES?! That's it! This movie gets a million negative stars from me, because it's going to suck like a million black holes.Nah, just kidding, y'all. This pissin' Benji doesn't give a shit really about this flick.Man, you haters are right! It is fun to shit all over something you don't know anything about. I'm probably not going to see this one, because I wasn't necessarily a big fan of the show. The rumors of Frank Black from Millenium being in it are pretty cool, though. I liked Millenium. I wish I owned the DVDs. (begins furiously tippy tapping in UseNext to get every episode).
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. . . but for me, since I try to use the word quotidian in quotidian circumstances, the pressure builds for me to throw out the occasional non-quotidian, y'know, to even out the ledger.
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Didn't Lenny from Laverne and Shirley guest star as the guy from Evolution in one episode? Scully? Mulder? Whatever the fuck their names were...Besides, Gillian Anderson needs to be slapped for making very ordinary girls with dyed red hair think they look like Gillian Anderson with dyed red hair.They don't. They look like fat, or plain girls with Manic Panic on their scalp cosplaying as one of the X-Files people.Bring on Y-Files: The Movie!
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Mar 05, 2008 3:46:34 PM CST
Who cares? You all know how it's going to end!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by crackerfarmboy
They'll end up exactly where they started: with no idea just how deep the conspiracy goes. What a waste of film.
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After the show or somewhere in the middle? Isn't this an important detail? Why is no one talking about it?
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Maybe I'm the only one who missed it, but do people know there's another Mummy movie coming out? I mean the last one sucked it. This one involves some resurrected Chinese emperor. Worst of all, Rachel Weisz has been replaced by Maria Bello as the same character. You realized it sucks, didn't ya, Rach? Sorry, but I tend not to go off on topic, so I should be allowed this one.
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The world back in the 1990s felt as unstable then as it does now for me. Turmoil always casts a foreboding shadow over society. Back in the 1960s we had the Vietnam bloodshed, race riots, high-profile assassinations, etc. Turn the clock back even farther, the Great Depression, Dust Bowl, WWII, Korea, Cuban Missile Crisis, the list of calamities goes on. Sept. 11 was just another stick on the pile. What will hurt the X-Files resurrection, however, is its age. The concept has run its course, and the younger movie goers probably don't even remember it that well.
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because we are hoping the new movie doesn't try to make sense of the oil, the bees, the super soldiers, the alien/angel things, the shapeshifters, the magic baby, the chestbursting aliens, etc., and instead just ignores them. At least, that's what I am hoping.
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Unless the flick takes place some where back in time on the time line they both should be living together and lovers. So it makes sense that they'd kiss. At least that's how the series left it.
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I didn't see anything particularly game-changing about 9-11, aside from how it made middle america feel about itself. My point was more that x-files hit a sweet spot in the mid-90s where it meshed nicely with trends going on in US culture more broadly, and those trends are not running the same way now. True, there has always been turmoil (and as hard as it is to apply metrics to it, I think that it would be wrong to say that turmoil doesn't impact culture more strongly sometimes than others), but perceptions are different now. Nobody talks about the "peace dividend" anymore, and instead, there is a lot of fear of the US being dethroned by Europe or China. Whatever can be said about the depiction of the world in the x-files, it was stable, with a cadre of Americans quietly running things for unknown purposes. I'm not sure that works today.
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DO THEY DO IT IN THE MOVIE?
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Mar 05, 2008 4:14:24 PM CST
Swayze rumors are true. Very sad.
by the gospel according to bastardface
And shocking.
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Mar 05, 2008 4:14:46 PM CST
Who cares? It's not even a spoiler since we've seen it all befor
by photoboy
I've never given two shits about the Mulder/Scully relationship beyond them being friends who investigate weird shit. The girly squealing from fanboys/girls every time they kiss is just lame.
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Please, folks.
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the tongue is out there?
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he has to throw away all his porn now?
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Mar 05, 2008 4:27:47 PM CST
Pennsy, his publicist confirmed it.
by the gospel according to bastardface
It's true.
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It's been so long since they were on air, after all.
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She's dying!
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I care about X-Files. They're making the movie for me.
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Scully looks fine!
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I don't have so low an attention span that I forget something just because it hasn't been around for a few years. They made the first Star Trek movie about ten years after the show was cancelled.
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And a hug.
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Mar 05, 2008 5:05:54 PM CST
OH MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS ITS A UFO CONSPIRACY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
by laserpants
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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She too, it turns out, is... A UFO CONSPIRACY!!! oooooweeeeeoooooooo!!!!
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Mulder is a Dentist now?
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What's with that old guy in the blue jacket trying to horn in on Mulder's action?
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they're making this movie for me, too. my hope is the time away will make it fresh and exciting, not stale the way some 'too late' films were (simpsons, tenacious d, etc). i would also like to see skinner cut a bitch, hopefully he'll be hanging round as well?time to sniff some laundry on 'cho's behalf
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Are you using scented detergent?
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Sorry.
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I don't know whether it was shot on film or not, but if it was they should remaster the episodes in HD and do new visual effects where needed. One of the greatest series' of all time (that sadly ended in a lame way with season 9, so thank fuck we're getting more now!)
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the detergent, too, is from that frou frou online place i told you about. there was a time when i had money and i went berserk buying shit like expensive detergent, chocolate with bacon in it, and dvd boxed-sets. now, i am living in the shade of my former glory, but i can still use the dregs of the detergent.ashok, you know, i don't think it's that it's a long time...i think we're just used to sequels coming out much more quickly nowadays. you know, if you wait more than a year and a half, it's like, oh well, you've lost the interest of the attention-span impaired demographic. which is lame, of course.
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aliens, UFO's and the Skunk Ape, but it's all for a good reason. Because it's better off in the hands of American men in black than them damned godless, six armed elephant worshippin' muslim men in turbans. Men in black, or men in turbans. Who do you trust?
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i'm just sayin'.
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As in past tense.All I have to say beyond that is HAAAAYYYYLP!!! ITS A UFO CONSPIRACY!!! HAAAAAYYYYYYYLP!!! OoooWeeeoooooo! (Thats an ersatz theremin in case you were wondering, used to evoke sinister feelings of U! F! O! CONSPIRACIES RUN AMOK!!! AIEEEEEEEEE!!!)
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A space queen lying dormant in Scully's soulhole for years, just waiting for Mulder to awaken it with, you guessed it, LOVE POWER!!! For only L-O-V-E can defeat... THE UFO CONSPIRACY!!! OOOOOWEEEEEEOOOOOO!!
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That would be Barack Obama.
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Mar 05, 2008 7:49:19 PM CST
I'm Sure The Govt. Is Covering Up Its Secret Giant Robot Project
by laserpants
They know the Space Nazi Godmonsters are coming, and only our Giant Robot Technology, and Earthly pluck, vigor, and vim, will be able to repel the threat of ALIEN INVASION! I'm sure they, that is, THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT, have already identified several teenagers with saucer sized eyes to battle the Space Nazi Godmonsters in their SuperHeroic Mobile Battle Armor Giant Robot Fighter thingees! GO!!!
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and i say again: AHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
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Mar 05, 2008 7:52:11 PM CST
I'm Sure The Govt. Is Hiding Its Corruption In Plain Sight
by laserpants
With all the shit going on in the world right now directly caused by our government, who has time for a UFO CONSPIRACY!? I think that office was closed down once the ENDLESS OIL WAR Conspiracy Office opened. You know, the actual conspiracy. The one they're getting away with. In plain view. Right now.
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Terry O'Quinn actually played 4 characters in the same universe,not 3.In a later season episode of the X-Files he played one of the "super soldiers."For some reason,he was billed with his full name Terrance O'Quinn in the credits.
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I'm pretty sure it was shot on film. The colors and the atmosphere of the show didn't look like video to me (although I'm no expert).
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Actually, I think the government has hit upon an ingenious scheme to hide its corruption: underneath an ever-mounting pile of *more* corruption, itself under a thick layer of incompetence. This is why the American public doesn't blink when the military loses like $8 billion in cash on freaking pallets in Iraq. It's become expected.
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If you watched the series (yes, even the shittier seasons), you'd know that not only have they smooched romantically, but they've played "Little Fox goes into the hole" before, too. Big whoop. This isn't a spoiler.
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when the boys find out the government is manufacturing the conspiracy theories on their own to make people think that the government is competent and skilled enough to pull off these giant conspiracies, when they are in fact, too incompetent and @#$%ed up to do so.
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They kissed in Millennium.
They kissed in the season 8 finale.
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Mar 05, 2008 9:50:10 PM CST
Thought the finale suggested they'd be together for good
by george newman
this kiss aint surprising
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"I don't care about X Files therefore no one else does and Fox is wasting money and film making movies for people other than me!" They're making the movie for me you self-centered egophiles, me and the other scores of fans. And since when did we judge credible film-making by whether it smashes box office records? Michael Bay should have taught you the folly in that line of thought. Here's my prediction: X Files 2 will do okay, not a blockbuster, but okay, and will be well received by critics and fans alike, just like the first one. I'll see it, enjoy it, and then enjoy reading the Aintitcool summer movie talkbacks where the movies that make the most money are largely criticized as disappointments, just like last Summer.
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...are just fuckin' WAITIN'!
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all over her face!!!!!!!! hahahahaha!!!!!!
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Scully still is hot as fuck, the hell w/ the haters, as long as the flick doesn't suck ballz that is....
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For killing off the Lone Gunman. Double fuck him for doing so in a crappy, ungripping episode where they could have EASILY survived and the climax was heavily flawed. That didn't have to happen. There was no reason to kill them off. You'd better pull this movie off to fucking atone for that, Chris.
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What great shots! They both look fantastic! Blurry or not, great to see and can't wait to see the finished film...too bad they couldn't film here in New Mexico..it always seems to be raining in Vancouver!
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...Mulder throwing Scully into the back seat and plowing her so hard she breaks the armrest with her head. To bad I wasn't directing.
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Gillian Anderson Full Fucking Frontal.
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I only heard that garage on this site. It takes place after the series ends. There is no mystery here. That being said, It's going to be a bit hard for me to picture the Scully character with long hair. It makes me think Gillian is playing a different character.
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Or whatever the heck is name is?
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I mean, how many beers do you need, dude? LOL.
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So you guys think X-Files is irrelevant because of current events? Give me a break. The concept of the show is malleable and flexible. Through it's 9 years, the X-Files changed it's thematic focus to fit with current events. And for the record it was never about how powerful America is, it was about how that power was a delusion. The invasion of the planet was always treated as inevitable and the conspiracy was only delaying it, you know, kind of like the recession. And whoever said the alien conspiracy pales in comparison to the real conspiracies in the government just doesn't understand the idea of metaphor and symbolism. The alien conspiracy was always just a stand in for what's really happening in our society which makes the show more relevant than ever. It's called allegory folks. Look it up. X-Files was never trendy just prophetic. Besides, I can't believe people on here are complaining about "bringing back a tired 90's idea". Aren't you all the same assclowns who rave over The Sarah Connor Chronicles? You know, that show that's based on an early 80's concept that had a clear cut resolution at the end of the second film? Or BSG? That's from the fucking 70's. Oh, and by the way, neither of theses concepts had the depth or creativity of the X-Files. But the better written, more original show that ended only six years ago with compelling, well defined characters played with wonderful performances has no place anymore? Whatever. And who the hell said the show has no where else to go with the death of the Conspiracists? The last episode was open ended and set the stage for that inevitable alien invasion which going back to the use of metaphor would be a conspiracy coming out in the open. Nothing says "cat's out of the bag" like a fleet of spaceships landing to enslave all of humanity. But yeah, maybe you should all just wait for the next Transformers movie because I'm sure a movie based on an 80's cartoon about robots that turn into GM cars is more relevant than 2 FBI agents slowly uncovering the corruption of US government and the crimes it commits against it's people. Nah. Not relevant at all. And by the way, who says they can't work 9/11 and the terrorist war into the vast tapestry of the show. They already touched on Desert Storm and as someone pointed out, The Lone Gunmen pilot had an almost play by play of 9/11 6 months before it happened! You think the writers who pulled that off don't have there fingers on the cultural zeitgeist of modern society? Seriously, pull your heads out of your ass. This is why you guys are not screenwriters but talkbackers.
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I don't usually give out kudos, but three cheers. I really am truly mystified at the sneering disdain so many talkbackers seem to have for my beloved X Files. It was, and is, a well-liked, iconic, well-written, directed, acted and produced show that still has many fans and has aged a hell of a lot better than most of the crap being optioned for films recently. Indeed, giant transforming robots seems to be Shakespearean epic art with a lot of these people, while a subtle and at turns funny, scary, dramatic and romantic story focalized on two strongly written leads is apparently a waste of film around here. It seems the only good thing most have to say about it is how much they want to bang Agent Scully. If I believed in aliens, I'd welcome abduction, at least it'd take me away from these morons.
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Thanks for the shout out. I knew I wasn't alone and I think you're right. It seems to me that people just can't handle stories with subtlety and subtext anymore. X-Files was all about reading in between the lines. What wasn't said was just as important as what was. That's what's commonly referred to as good writing. The episodes were often accused of having no resolution when, in fact, if one was paying attention; the opposite was true. In the post Michael Bay, glossed over, corporate run movie industry, people have gotten to use to "in your face, everything wrapped up in a nice little bow, every story point and action nicely spelled out for you" style of storytelling. I think it's time for more storytelling like the X-Files displayed week after week. It's time for stories to have "layers" to them again. I know Occula agrees with me too. She has taste.
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. . . appears aimed at me, here goes: One, the "[well] written, more original show that ended only six years ago with compelling, well defined characters . . ." actually ended something like 10 years ago; a lingering, ponderous show by the same name (but frequently with different actors and sharply declining writing and direction) continued on for *years* afterwards. Two, I stand by what I said about the show being well-suited to its cultural time and place, and it being very hard to adapt to the current very different cultural time and place. I never said that the x-files was about an omnipotent United States; it just simply took place in a world where that was taken for granted. Which is why Mulder and Scully were, in the mythology episodes, attempting to uncover powerful governmental types who were, in secrecy, controlling and manipulating events for unknown and sinister ends. The concept of which, currently, appears laughable, because the government/intelligence apparatus has been revealed to be fractionalized, unprofessional, blind to threats, and incompetent, and are envisioned as such in current US culture. Three, your reference to the inevitability of the alien invasion is unavailing, because a) that concept was only rarely introduced, and only a truly rabid fan would recall it, and b) the show was never about inevitable disaster and last-ditch efforts to stave it off, but a struggle to wrest truth from powerful adverse forces--that, and monsters-of-the-week. Four, the show is not "more relevant than ever." Do you really want Mulder and Scully investigating no-bid contracts? Or prisoner abuse? Or foreign jihadists? And do you really think that the trope established by the show in the 90s that major geopolitical events were feints by the syndicate to cover up/accomplish activities involving aliens would work today? I doubt it would. Five, the Lone Gunmen WTC thing most certainly did not feature "an almost play by play of 9/11", it only shared one element--hitting the towers with a plane. 9/11 was about the failure of US defenses and the realization that nation-states and governments were no longer the only significant threats, and that the intelligence resources of nation-states were dramatically less competent than had previously been thought. The show was about a goofy false-flag plot put in motion by all-powerful domestic government forces. And the Lone Gunmen show sucked. There is a reason it was canceled. Finally, to respond to your strawman ad hominen attacks, I think that battlestar galactica, all things sarah conor, and transformers were/are all ridiculous, and I have no desire to be a screenwriter. As is, I suspect, the case with many people here, who just enjoy a good talkback about movies, and then go on with the rest of their day. At any rate, I think that this could be a good, fun nostalgia-fest if the movie stays away from the show's bloated mythology and instead focuses on where the x-files was best: its atmosphere and monster-of-the-week mysteries.
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Those two at the helm of this movie is what really should worry fans of The X-Files. Sure, they did a lot of very good and even great episodes in the first half of the series run, but in the latter seasons they delivered some of the worst episodes. Just to name a few Fight Club (written and Directed by Carter), First Person Shooter (Directed by Carter), Improbable (again Carter in double duty). Most of the mythology episodes post Fight the Future were almost insulting to what came before them, worst offenders to me were Closure, Existence, all the season nine mytharc shows, including The Truth. I still hope that this movie is successful and that more will come in the future, but I also hope writers and directors from outside the tv show creative talents get a shot at telling a story within The X-Files universe.
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... First off, I'll give you the show declined in it's last season, no doubt but the idea that the show became lingering and ponderous after the movie is ridiculous. Doggett was just as "well defined" and Robert Patrick played that character with real sincerity and heart. Since when is bringing in new characters to a show a negative? It's not a domestic drama. And through it all, Mulder (even when he was absent) and Scully remained the focal point of the show with the exception of the ninth season which I myself have a problem with (except for the last episode which I thought was a brilliant end for the series). In case you hadn't noticed, the show began as a simple police procedural with hints of a conspiracy which slowly blossomed and grew to become an epic odyssey with global implications. You tend to involve more people in a story that size just as in real life. The space race, for instance, involved thousands of individuals. Not just the astronauts and the president. And through the entire series, the show was always told through the prism of the characters and through there experiences and point of view. And where is this sharply declining writing and direction you speak of? The series was always well directed and production values were always at the highest level. They made a mini movie each week and almost every episode was shot with a style suitable to the story, whether it was a fast paced story or a more contemplative one. Your implication of auto-pilot direction is laughable even considering the ninth season. And writing? Please explain. Is it because the show dared to grow and not keep the playing field even through the entire run? It was ballsy and completely unexpected to kill off the Consortium in the sixth season if you bothered to watch that far. I find many people are happy to have there shows stay the same and play it safe through it's entire run. Changing the playing field and the players so radically is usually known as innovation. It's just something people weren't use to in the 90's. The writers clearly don't share your narrow vision of storytelling. When you take big chances in the direction of a show, your bound to loose your more myopic audience members. The dissapearence of Mulder and the resolution of his quest for his sister were compelling and handled deftly as well as the introduction of Doggetts' character who at first seems to be a real son of a bitch but later reveals himself to be a character just as endearing as the one he replaced. No, it didn't go by the numbers but that's what fresh narrative is supposed to do. However, I did find the Monica Reyes character to be a waste of space.
Second, you can stand by your statement that it's "very hard to adapt to the current very different cultural time and place" all you want. It doesn't make it correct. Your statement seems to hinge on the fact that just because the war is being handled badly and the current administration is inept that all conspiracies are blown wide open. I think not. What about the election to the first Bush term, the cover up of 9/11, the ease at which Osama Bin Laden escaped through US ground forces into the Pakistani mountains, illegal wire tapping, the CIA destroying interrogation footage? And let's say for arguments sake that everyone does see the government as ONLY incompetent? You're saying that can't be adapted into the mythology of the show? As I remember it, the conspiracy was destroyed for being just that. Incompetent. They started to turn on each other and there back hand deals were finally discovered by the very aliens they were attempting to double cross. And as the alien invasion nears, wouldn't it make sense that the government itself would fall apart in a kind of unorganized panic? Wouldn't people in power try to do everything they could to grab as much loot as they could before the shit hits the fan, like say, Exxon appears to be doing?
Third, are you really dismissing the entire thrust of the series being an inevitable alien invasion by saying only a "rabid fan" would recall it? That "rarely introduced" element was what the movie revealed and what they continued to allude to in every mythology episode after. Rabid fan or no, it's a fact in the reality of the show and one that the series finale centered around. And that is what we're talking about isn't it? The events of the show and it's relevance to 2008/09? Maybe you just weren't paying attention that week.
Fourth, the show is more relevant than ever. You seemed to have missed my point of the alien mythology being seen as allegory for the reality of our society and country and as reality changes, so does the world of the show. Why is this so hard to understand? No, I don't want to see them literally investigating no-bid contracts or foreign jihadists? I'm sure the writers would find that idea as ridiculous as I do. Again, the alien mythology is an ALLEGORY. It's a stand in for real life events. And because it's a story that changes over time, it's able to mold itself to changing cultural trends. You seem to view the show as some sort of cultural straight jacket and yet I seem to recall the show being on for 9 years and being anything but. But yeah, I guess the world hadn't changed at all from 1993 to 2002. The show seemed drastically different to me from that first episode to the last.
Five, your view that 9/11 was about failure of US defenses and the realization that nation states and governments were no longer the only significant threats and that there intelligent resources were dramatically less competent than previously thought is certainly true but to think that is all there was to that incident is rather myopic and a bit naive. The false-flag plot put in motion by all-powerful domestic government forces is exactly what many believe. That 9/11 was planned years ago by certain elements in the American intelligence community which is why it was so important for the Bush administration to be in power at the time of the attack and why the intelligence community ignored repeated warnings of an immanent attack on US soil. The Lone Gunmen show sucked? I thought the one about the car that ran on water and Frohike pretending to be the old German womans' long lost son were great. But, to each his own. Shows like that tend to only get better with each season but we'll never know.
And finally, no one said you have to be a screenwriter to be on a talkback but if you're going to make cynical unsubstantiated comments like X-Files is no longer relevant because the world keeps on spinning then expect to be taken to task for it. I'm simply pointing out that you're basis for that argument is that the screenwriters can't conform there narrative to fit current societal trends which is absolutely ludicrous and if you thought at all like they do you would realize that. Your opinion simply comes from being uninformed concerning the creative abilities of the shows writers to the show itself.
But yeah. Great atmosphere and those monster of the week episodes would be great to see again on the big screen. That inevitable alien invasion can always wait until X-Files 3.
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. . . to disagree. And really, we aren't disagreeing about much. I say it's hard to fit x-files into 2008, and you say it's possible. Maybe I'm not giving enough credit to the creative abilities of the show's writers (although I think the last few seasons stand as evidence on my side); maybe you are giving too much. No biggie. Oh, and by the way, paragraphs are handy things. You can make them by typing , but you remove the spaces.
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I agree. I still think that last season is the only stinker though. I would recommend (if you can stand it) to watch the whole show again from beginning to end on dvd. I did this recently with my girlfriend who's never seen the show and it really flows that way. She enjoyed it the whole way through, although she said it was the first two seasons that were a little hard to get into and then after that she was hooked. Thanks for the tip on paragraphs. That's been bugging me for a while now. Of course, the next time I enter the talkback I'll probably have forgotten about it but thanks all the same.
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Chris Carter standing right there, haha!
I cannot wait for this movie.
:)
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