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G.I. JOE Executive Producer/Hasbro COO Talks About The Sommers Movie With MTV!!
Merrick here...
MTV has posted an interview with HASBRO COO & Brian Goldner about Stephen Sommers' fothcoming big screen adaptation of G.I. JOE. Goldner is also an Executive Producer on the film.
Some interesting details emerge about what kind of movie we can expect. Not many spoilers here, per se, as this is more about the broad strokes of how the franchise will be adapted into a film (which G.I. JOE era certain characters will represent, and so forth.)
But someone wishing to remain ultra virginal about the project may want to sidestep this piece.
A sampling:
"We all really loved what G.I. Joe was about in the '80s; we loved that story arc and the concept of Joe vs. Cobra," said Goldner, explaining that the people who created those characters will return, even if some of their creations won't. Comics writer Larry Hama, Goldner confirmed, "is onboard, and he's working with us on the script.
...says THIS ARTICLE at MTV.
Goldner also addresses rumors/criticisms of G.I. JOE being de-patriot-i-fied...although somewhat obliquely.
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Is anyone excited about a Stephen Sommers film?
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god I hate how all of his flicks culminate in a series of poorly directed and animated cartoon fights.
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I'm not sure about this one at all. I admit that I bitched and moaned and called the anti-Transformers nerds over the top...but damn if GI-JOE sounds like a mess of shit that doesn't need to happen....anyone agree??
Persepolis Review!
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Did they ever explain what the other half was? Blowing crap up with no deaths? Is that how you win a battle? Or shooting down a plane and the pilot always parachutes out? Or is it an all out ground battle and no one can hit anything? Yeah, that's how we won WWII.
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...just can't reconcile what is being peiced together with something that's gonna rock
I am gonna go ahead and say we're going to get some great "tease" though, a la the Van Helsing images.
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Having Larry Hama on board builds confidence from the fanboys.
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Joe Dante directed it back in 1998 and called it "Small Soldiers". It had Denis Leary, Kirsten Dunst, Phil Hartman (in one of his last movies), and Jay Mohr all battling these GI Joe like action figures that come to life battling the Gorgonites. The CGI kicked butt at the time and earned a PG-13.
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Come back Joe Dante!!!
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Van Helsing was an Unwatchable, CG shitstorm!
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makes me unboard, albiet still somewhat uneasyhowever Cahnning Tatum is still to young and there is noway JGL, no matter how good he was in Brick, can be Cobra Commander
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But once this movie gets prepped for release, get ready for a tidal wave of plants and undercover advertisers flooding this Talkback and articles with nonstop praise and defense, a la Transformers.
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and this undoubtedly won't be, either. This movie is being made because titling a movie "GI Joe" gets you like a $100 million worth of advertising/promotion for free.
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Then it'll suck. Heavily.Give it to Bay instead. Then at least it'll fucking rock. Like TOTAL FUCKING DESTRUCTION!!!!!!
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VAN HELSING was beyond a travesty
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of mine is working on the animatics. He said its going to suck. Snake Eyes speaks. You see Snake Eyes face. The Baroness uses a stripper pole to escape up into a plane... Originally was going to be a balloon that expanded from a cane... lame!
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Cobra Commander would be welcomed at the U.N. as a hero, because he hates America, too. A REAL *AMERICAN* HERO OR DEATH, BABY.
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look I grew up in the 80's. I grew up on G.I. Joe. I was a huge fan but this movie is gonna be shit. All they are doing is taking the GI Joe name and putting it in front of a lame action movie. Fuck that. If they're gonna do a Joe movie they have to have Cobra and the original storyline. This movie will bomb.
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to get the latest scoop or breaking news about movie. I just come to talk about 'em. There are other sites that will have the story hours even days before AICN. I'll check there for latest info then come here and talk about it whenever they post it.
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yes, because the united nations hates the US. Like when it softly criticizes the US for starting wars in the middle east despite the fact that the whole point of the UN (and the reason that the US spearheaded founding the UN) was to prevent nations from starting wars with each other. Buncha reckless peacemongers. We showed them!
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I dunno.
I want it to be fun and nostalgic...and I want to see old Cobra Commander onscreen larger than and twice as blue.
But I need to not be so focused on what I want to see and just take what I can get.
Destro leads Cobra? How Cobra Commander comes to power?
NO! Cobra Commander is the supreme cobra!
Although I like Arnold Vosloo as Zartan. Will we get dreadnoks?
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A lot of the wackyness will be gone, there will be some, but not like the cartoon. I don't know about Sommers, didn't he do Van Helsing? That movie was terrible. Sommers has the wiz-bang, but does he have the story ability? Let's put it this way, is he good enough with actors to let the story flow, or will be end up with another edit hack job?
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His scripts were the best. I think he even wrote some Joe cartoon episodes.
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Mar 03, 2008 2:30:40 PM CST
I could edit Transformers into a good 45 minute movie.
by stereotypical evil archer
Thank the evil that is Cobra-La that Michael Bay is not involved with this G.I. Joe movie. I would have forced Joe Carnahan to direct this one!
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A better movie would be me, recording myself with my camera phone, typing this.
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The Zartan casting is pretty genius.
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It's GI Joe god damn it! Not action force!
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They're relying on 20-30 year old toys to make them money. They haven't developed new toys in years.
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The guys playing Cobra Commander and Duke are only 27 years old?!?! Seriously, is this GI Joe the teenage years?
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were are always battling for the thrown.
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Throne ;)
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"because titling a movie "GI Joe" gets you like a $100 million worth of advertising/promotion for free."Looool! That one was good.
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some moviegoing morons might think that it'll be the sequel to GI JANE...
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mistake GI Joe for a sequel to GI Jane, they are still aware of the movie, which is more than they would be if the movie was Generic Military Action Movie.
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that the only reason that this movie is being discussed here at all is because of its title.
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yet I fear for how much input he will be allowed. And the U.N. team concept sucks eggs.
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I mean, I know the movie I saw was a fucking steaming pile of unwatchable shit, but didn't Harry love it? He really enjoyed it right? The Mummy 2 aswell?
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And graduate of Harvard. HARVARD. I am in wholeheartedly looking towardford to this film. Is it just me or is MTV starting to be cranker out many of quality film lately? I was even being in a discussion of this during my classes in pertenation to film, MTV is starting to be more legitimacy than most Indie companies. What do you all think?
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This get worse and worse as the details come together. Sheez.
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Man, that blew. Even as a kid I knew that sucked.
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Featuring white kids from prep school showing those violent street kids how its done. Legitimate?
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...I'm not sure how a legitimate mega conglomerate producing a enormous budget light action designed purposely to sell merchandise, with no regard to film making quality at all equates to a company who produces top drawer faux indie pictures. The MTV logo might look like the Paramount Vantage one to you. Aren't they owned by the same people?
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MTV was the one that did HOW SHE MOVE....(WAAAAAAAY more legitimate than Step Up 2 the Streets)......:-\
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What do I think? I think you need to go back to Harvard and take an English class. They still teach spelling and diction in college, right?!
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And that sucked. It all depends on how much control he has has and he'll have none. Sommers already has a shitty idea of what he wants and he obviously wont let anyone stray from that. You can tell by the interview how bad it will be because like so many before he pretends to be a fan of the book and then spews nonsense that never came from it and throws fans nothing but scraps knowing they'll eat it up.
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...this movie will be great.Ummm...yeah.
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Do we have the following to look forward to from Hasbro? "Cootie" with a Cloverfield angle? Hungry Hungry Hippos featuring Steve Carrell, Jim Carrey, Queen Latifah, and Cameron Diaz as the hippos? Mr. Potato Head starring Shia Lebeouf? Tell the Hasbro COO to stop turning toys into movies!
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pardon but well he's speaking for the entire production, anyway.
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What a laugh that was. Remember that?
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Michael Bay!
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Might i be reminding you that it's you whose the one that's not smart. This statement will be of the characerization of riskayness, and call me anti-sexual if it is that who you want, but those who are neglecting the legitness of MTV are fucking gay. Say what to that?
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Mar 03, 2008 3:33:19 PM CST
I remember the old cartoon where Roadblock breakdanced
by skywalkerfamily
and Snake Eyes did the Twist.
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In the words of the Virgin Mary:Come again?
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Everyone knows the first script recieved an F. So ED must of been really impressed about what he saw in the revamped script. I still think this movie is going to suck. The cast is fucking atrocious.
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Obviously your are the one in need of an education. What are you waning again?
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... that wont be on this site for a good while... Kevin Conroy is apparently doing the voicework on that new fangled Batman DVD.
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Come up with our own G.I. Joe movie ideas? It's GOT to be better than what they'll come up with...
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What, is that another title for someone who doesn't know shit about movies? Show me some pics of Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow and perhaps my hate will subside.
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I need an education? Have you read your own statements?! Quote:"I am in wholeheartedly looking towardford to this film.""Might i be reminding you that it's you whose the one that's not smart.""This statement will be of the characerization of riskayness, and call me anti-sexual if it is that who you want, but those who are neglecting the legitness of MTV are fucking gay."That last statement is one hell of a sentence, dude. I'm talking 24K gold. I'm sorry; I don't mean to nitpick. But if you're a Harvard graduate, we're all fucking doomed.
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Harvard Community College you mean? I have a group of buddies that attend Harvard (and MIT) over there and none would really say..."I'm from Harvard.HARVARD."
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I'm pretty sure good ol filmgenius is fucking with you. he's doing his best "i do not speak of the inglish" impression. it smacks of "all your base are belong now to us" or whatever the hell that was. feel free to continue, though, as I am enjoying the conversation slightly.
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and what the hell is a COO anyway??
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I liked the Mummy. Fun movie. The Mummy Returns was, of course, a steaming pile.
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there's absolutely no defending this piece of shit. It reminds me of that episode of American Dad where they're making that horrible film. I was never one of those "Bayformers will suck" guys, and I never said, "Lucas raped my childhood", but this film will fucking suck, hands down.
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this interview and the casting seems to confirm the rumors that Cobra will not be Cobra commander's creation and he will actually be a disfigured super soldier that was friends with the wigger playing Duke I believe and he will probably seize Cobra from Destro at the end of the movie.
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we need to start lowering our expectations now!
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childhood friends.
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they were my all time favorites. i'm sure they won't include them in the movie but it would be nice.
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as long as they don't fuck up Robotech.
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Mar 03, 2008 5:19:05 PM CST
re: Hasbro Has Been in the PooPer since they left Cincinnati
by alkeoholic77
Ummmm... they are the number one of the largest toy companies in the world second to Mattel.
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'nuff said.
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(...and it's not because of the casting). This project is doomed from the start because of the inherently patriotic/nationalistic quotient of the franchise itself. They are basically damned if they do and damned if they don't on this one. By softening the patriotism, "globalizing" the story and taking the piss out of the guts-and-glory-Americana, they are completely alienating the Joe fanbase. But if they were to keep a jingoistic American storyline it would most likely alienate absolutely everybody else (it would probably especially hurt international box office), since we're not exactly in the right climate these days to go ra-ra on American militarism. So, either way they're fucked from the get-go. A crap director and stunt casting is the least of their problems.
Although admittedly if I were one of their writers/producers/strategists, I probably would have advised them to not make it PC and just stick to the all-American thing, figuring that it's better to please the fanbase you can count on to put butts in the seats. All this Euro thing is going to do is ensure that Joe fans talk shit for months and maybe even ultimately boycott the film, while meanwhile people who weren't into GI Joe in the first place still won't be, and certainly won't be enticed by the watered-down PC premise to check it out. -
Rot in hell.
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Mar 03, 2008 5:42:03 PM CST
I'd love for this movie to be at least a marginal success like T
by thedarklinglord
Because, like Transformers, I have a bunch of classic '80s action figures I'd love to eBay and make a mini fortune from. If the movie is remotely watchable, it may rekindle an interest and increase the likelihood of getting top dollar for the figures. Beyond that, I don't give a shit about this movie and, in my opinion, it was doomed to maximum suckage the instant Sommers was attached to direct.
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wtf are u smoking ? ur saying transformers was a "marginal success" ?? i think u need to check a few facts and figures and box office tallys
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Mar 03, 2008 5:46:15 PM CST
Couldn't people be overestimating the American aspect?
by blindambition238
I understand how an pro-US military film might be seen by the backers as a risk, but when you consider the past big budget summer blockbusters from Independence Day to Transformers, I think the other world markets are pretty much used to these things kind of now. Granted things changed a lot in the past 8 or so years, but I think as long as they lace this with enough marketing and explosions as we can expect them to, an American GIJoe will still do major bank across the globe. Sure they'll probably scoff and laugh at it when they're in the cinemas, and the critics will rip into it, but the main point is theyll come anyways. Any thoughts?
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i loved mummy and van helsing.... u people need to stop critiquing cgi like u think u could do better...i saw no problems with the cg in either film....and this movie sounds like it will be awesome...cant wait to see what they come up with, and a teaser trailer this summer will be great.
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ever since they stopped playing music all day...if they did produce the movie "how she move" they should be ashamed...its bad english and makes no sense.......and what makes less sense is that theyre making "step up 3D" .....these dance movies are dumb and should stop being made...is there anything new to it besides silly dancing and retarded characters....
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I know what you're saying but I think your post contains the seeds of why it's a different climate today: THINGS HAVE CHANGED A LOT IN THE PAST 8 YEARS. We are in a post-Bush age where people are troubled by and critical of the American military establishment. Independence Day did well, sure, but that was '96, and I think Transformers' success had zero to do with its military/soldier themes and everything to do with giant fucking robots. I just see the GI Joe franchise as a different story, and again, it's all about the sociopolitical context and the timing. Joe probably would have done well in '96, but in 2008/2009, I think this baby is doomed....
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is all the dragonball news?!?!?!
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Your posts are a lot more insteresting when they're nothing but ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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Mar 03, 2008 6:04:15 PM CST
Ever since TPM came out people think they're directors
by skywalkerfamily
writers and casting directors.
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There's people from all walks of life in the Joe team.
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Okay, i sort of did understate that point about the times and all, but as you said, Transformers was a big success despite Bay's characteristic "America fuck yea!" portrayal of the army due to the big ass robots blowing shit up... blinding spectacles over shallow-ass story and themes; and it is that reason why I don't think making the GIJoes American will be that big of a deal. After all, it looks like most people here have agreed more or less that Stephen Sommers is a Michael Bay equivalent/ substitute and that this movie will just be another product. So whether or not the Joes are based in Brussels or Stateside won't matter because there's probably going to be little to no political intrigue or commentary, just sfx, explosions, and one-liners strung together. It's going to be your (typical) modern summer blockbuster, based on a toyline, that nobody will expect to be taken seriously, and therefore totally not worth getting worked up over as long as it entertains them for the next 2 hrs or so. Hell, if this film turns out as bad as some people here expect it to, then a gung-ho pro-American military slant might make the film even more popular overseas... an unintentional live-action Team America.
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in the 3rd line
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Is on? Then I really have faith that this won't be too bad. If anything at least it will be vastly better than Street Fighter. Or at least the G.I Joe animated movie. It said in the article that Hama might even be in the movie. Could that possibly mean Tunnel Rat?
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I know he was no Heath Ledger, but still, a great talent.
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Hmm, actually I see your point. I completely agree that "blinding spectacles + shallow-ass story and themes" is obviously a winning blockbuster formula, and I'm sure that's what they're going for here. Sommers is certainly their affordable Michael Bay (and accordingly, even more of a hack). And I'm sure you're right that they will water down any overt politics in favor of a bland vanilla plot, while the real stars of the show will be lots of CG and blowing shit up preceded by cringe-worthy one-liners. All true. And yet...despite the example of Transformers as having all these elements and being a success, there's still something about this project that I feel will simply not work. I think people will either find it utterly distasteful (critics, non-Joe-fans) or utterly disappointing (old school Joe fans). It's tricky with this loaded subject matter, no matter how much they try to neuter it. They can't both reinforce and subvert the status quo, and by trying to force a franchise with a history and roots in patriotism into something palatably neutral and globally acceptable, they will both offend the oldschool fanbase and declaw the material. And shmucks like me who were never into the appallingly jingoistic franchise in the first place (only the fantastic 1945 movie The Story of GI Joe that doesn't have anything to do with Hasbro) won't be convinced (or give a crap) that their global PC kumbaya version is anything to shell out $10 bucks for.
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Mar 03, 2008 7:40:23 PM CST
We need us some GoBots, COPS, and MASK up in this mofo!
by mrmysteryguest
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many solid movies by talented directors. Already has been, in fact, so G.I. Joe does seem an odd choice, considering Stephen Sommers (or however it's spelled)makes emotionless, bombastic, goofball action movies. Odder still: Gordon-Levitt playing Cobra Commander?! Like any other 80's brat, though, I loved G.I. Joe and the cool-ass vehicles dripping with fifty types of projectiles. But yeah, this movie will be, at best, on par with Transformers, both box office-wise and quality-wise. Take that as you will.
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I mean, aside from the title and the slogan, nothing in the moving-pictures cartoon was particularly US-centric. The main characters bounced around all over the planet, almost entirely without reference to things like other countries. The GI Joe characters also never seemed to interact with any sort of political leadership (occasionally, they'd consult a general or something), and their home base frankly could have been anywhere. Maybe the still image cartoons were different, but I don't see the need to throw in a lot of jingoistic stuff in order to keep this "material" true to its roots.
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In the live action Smurfs movie.
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Same ole TBer shit. Haven't read the script, haven't even seen a real G.I. Joe-ish image to pick apart like this generation does. You know nothing about the movie besides that it has the G.I. Joe brand. Hell, even LatinoReview, die hard Joe fans who were disgusted with the Skip Woods draft, reviewed this latest script and gave it a resounding A+... saying that Joe fans will be thrilled by it. Yet, despite that solid good script review (as opposed to the terrible script review of the early Transformers draft), people are already pissing and moaning.
Seriously, are you that protective of yourself after the disappointment of Phantom Menace that you'll shit on a movie without having seen ANYTHING?
Fact of the matter is, when an adaptation happens THERE WILL BE CHANGES. It is inevitable. Beyond that, we don't even know what those changes are yet so CHILL THE FUCK OUT;) I'll never understand the need to shit on a movie when we haven't seen ANYTHING. Not one trailer. Not one image besides the ones with Tatum and Sienna Miller (Which were pretty good... meaning they seemed to be set well within the real world and not too Van Damme Street Fighter-like). No, the only hard evidence we have is the great review rating of the current script that Sommers is directing. Which obviously gives no reason to worry THUS FAR. The casting is neither here nor there... just fine for me, besides my only worry which is Marlon Wayans... but who knows, maybe he bulks up a bit and plays it straight with some fun quips.
Either way, it's WAAAAAAAY too premature to say it's going to bomb and suck. Funny thing is, Tranformers was the one the naysayers were saying was going to BOMB. Yeah, not so much. Some people here may not have liked that one, but over $500 million worth of viewers worldwide beg to differ. -
Oh well, here's hope for a Starscream recasting in Trannys 2.
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His films suck. Fuck him.
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Zombie Gi Joe.
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I'm pretty sure they're home base was in Springfield. Same as the Simpsons.
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or "jingoistic", but should be American. Just cuz, that's what they are. I mean the term "G.I. Joe" implies Americans. I dislike the addition of any politics to the making of this movie...
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It's just a kids cartoon. The story lines never had any more weight to them than your average cereal commercial.
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Totally.
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. . . only marketing. You can't sell US-led interventionist soldiers fighting terrorism (even the goofy, blue-masked kind) to non-US audiences, and they make up half the projected box office gross for something like this.
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That was a war that involved pretty much everyone.
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Regarding the whole "International Angle",I cant wait for MARVEL to make Captain:Steve Rogers. He'll wear an all black leather costume with some blue highlights and work for the international anti-terrorist organization S.H.I.E.L.D.,who patrols the world from their heli-carrier high above international waters...just dont say the A word,Cap!
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....and yup, thats what it is a F-ing Popcorn Movie. Also they got the perfect director for it too. The kids will dig it and the fanboys who the fuck knows, we will wait and see. But the Ain't it cool newski's will hate it, cause they already do like always. Also moto, great post!
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That the first half of the movie is going to be GIANT ROBOTS wandering around the desert looking for GI Joe. Then the last half of the movie is going to be about hilarious black computer hackers running around like stereotypes trying to prove the existence of GI Joe. Then we may actually see GI Joe onscreen for 5 minutes,but they'll be all CGI and Roadblock will have flames on his nipples. It will go on to gross 500 million dollars though because people are stupid!
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Better call in the bitter police.
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Just like they used to do under my parents' coffee table.
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In August 2009, we'll see it with our own eyes. In the meantime, "G.I. Joe" continues to shoot all over the world, with a budget so huge that it makes the U.S.S. Flagg aircraft carrier play set look like something you'd get at a 99-cent store.
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Um, actually, the rule about people who went to Harvard *is* that they will mention they went there within the first 60 seconds of any conversation. (Because they want you to cower in appreciation of how smart they really are, when in actuality there's really not a whole lot goin' on up there, in my experience.) But back to Sommers: WHY DO THEY GIVE THIS GUY MOVIES TO DIRECT??? HOLLYWOOD, CAN'T YOU JUST COMB THROUGH THE TOP FILM SCHOOLS A LITTLE MORE THOROUGHLY!??!
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I was at a con and Jeremy Bulloch saw my Harvard shirt (I don't go there), and he goes, "Hey! You went to Harvard!" and I had to go, "Uh, no. Sorry." But it was cool to know Boba Fett went to Harvard!
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BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!!
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Mar 04, 2008 4:20:13 AM CST
Old New...No Dreadnoks...and Eric Bana should've been Zartan!!!
by monkey_king
Gerard Butler would've owned as Destro.
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His run on Wolverine absolutely rocked. It fell apart a bit towards the end of his run, but he's one of the defining writers on Wolverine and wrote some of THE classic issues. For that he will always have my respect
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Pretty interesting!
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Why isn't Mr. Eko playing Roadblock? Everything I've read has him cast as some other guy, and now I think Common is supposed to be Roadblock? Roadblack was huge! He could literally block a road, hence the name. Eko is likewise huge, right? And where the hell is Shipwreck? Josh Holloway should be all over that bad boy. Give Sawyer a parrot and add him to the cast. And if there is a Spirit, don't use Lou Diamond Phillips.
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Redneck's hate him, The "CIA will" hate him. But normal people Love him. Change Right-Wing crap that is happening right now. Bush started it he couldnt finish it as so many Republic Presidents couldnt finish what they started. But Obama will finish it. Not by killing more people but by giving them a solution to thier problems. The Republicans choose an 80 year old geezer who will be livin in life support very soon. Its gonna be a no contest boys!!! Might as well save ur time and comment on other stuff.
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That's good news, but old news.
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about it was that it honored the cast of The Dirty Dozen. Several of them were the voices of the soliders. Too bad Lee Marvin was dead at the time. You gotta love the cheesy names they came up with Nick Nitro, Butch Meathook, LOL.
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(shrug) None of my friends do that. Especially not posting on a message board about movies.
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I thought Matthew Fox would make a great Flint when I cast GI JOE from the cast of LOST. You could have had Daniel Dae-Kim as Storm Shadow, Evangeline Lilly as Lady Jaye, Josh Holloway as Duke or Shipwreck, Henry Ian Cusick as Destro, Michael Emerson as Cobra Commander, John Terry as Gen. Hawk, Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje as Roadblock(!!!), Cynthia Watros as The Baroness, Naveen Andrews as Zartan, Ian Somerhalder as Tomax/Xamot, and Terry O'Quinn as - muthafuckin' Dr. Mindbender!!! The only role I can think of for Jorge Garcia is Tunnel Rat.
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So he's mixed race, as opposed to "all" African American.
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A little bit INDIANA JONES and a little bit JASON BOURNE, this is one those HOT properties that is on my list to make as a big budget movie,...if only I was in the fortunate position of being a movie director. So much for dreaming.
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http://tinyurl.com/2437u9
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZSn2ADH2Y4
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patriotic ANYTHING right now makes me wanna throw up. the entire world hates us as they damn well should right now and frankly, i don't think we need anymore propaganda. i nearly choke on it every time i turn on the tele.
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COBRAAAAAAAA!
Yeah, quit the bashing already. Did none of you grow up in the eighties? Did none of you have every toy imaginable from the series? Shit, I even like the Cobra-La stuff, Nemesis Enforcer kicks ass. Until I see something bad I will have hope for this project. -
Technically, yeah, but traditionally in the US people of mixed heritage were still considered black (even if almost all of their ancestry was European--see terms like "octoroon" or the "one drop rule" and other invidious nonsense from the past). Now you know. And knowing's half the battle.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV_-u9sxYZM&NR=1
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I'd argue that the intro to the movie, which you quote, was the best part of the movie. That intro was fantastic--loved it as a kid.
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Cobra-La-la-la-la-la-la!!!!
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I like the whole movie but you're right, the statue of liberty assault, the new kick ass song,people getting kicked out of jet packs, CC not being a pussy and delivering a bomb himself.
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The Twins were the coolest cobra characters ever(maybe stormshadow is cooler than one of them,but not both) They have to be in the film or it will be shit.....Talkback is so lame lol I love it..
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Goldner shows how clueless he is by saying that the movie will focus on the comic storyline and focus on Duke. Well, as anybody who knows anything about 80s Joe knows, Duke was mainly a character in the cartoon and was an afterthought in the comics. To further compound the cluelessness is the casting of Duke -- if they had brains they would cast some rugged man's man type dude, not this pretty-boy underwear model they dredged up. It reminds me of the casting of Masden as Cyclops in X-Men, one of the worst casting choices ever. If the filmmakers had any balls, they'd make a badass guys flick that would give large focus on the villains like Cobra Commander and Destro, who let's be honest were by far much more interesting than the good guys, with the exception of Snake Eyes and maybe Shipwreck, who was always my favorite in the cartoons. Larry Hama on board is a good move seeing as how he pretty much invented all of the characters and wrote the file cards, but it wouldn't be a bad idea to bring in story editor Buzz Dixon either, who story edited the cartoon, which makes his experience closer to making a movie than Hama's. Alas, Steve Gerber, god bless him passed away last month, who also story edited on the show and would have been a good addition but for the fact of the Howard the Duck disaster probably made him want to distance himself from motion picture adaptations forever. Any mention of Serpentor would be utterly inane, as it was when he was introduced and as every Joe-head knows caused the whole property to jump the shark before Cobra-La put the nail in the coffin.
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. . . but in case it isn't, how many people here are familiar with GI Joe mainly through the cartoon, mainly through the comic, or through both? I'm curious, because it sounds like the two manifestations are pretty different. I for one never read the comic books, and just know the cartoon. So, to me, Cobra Commander is a cross between hitler and yosemite sam, and the good guys are pretty boring.
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