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Juno drops out of Raimi's DRAG ME TO HELL!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I gotta say, this news doesn't make me happy. I love Ellen Page and I love the idea of her headlining Sam Raimi's return to horror with DRAG ME TO HELL, but it seems like she had to drop out. Bloody-Disgusting had the story first, then hours later an official press release went out. Here's the press release:

Los Angeles (February 29, 2008) – Ellen Page is no longer available for Sam Raimi's supernatural thriller Drag Me to Hell due to scheduling conflicts caused by a change in the start date of the production. The film is directed by Sam Raimi and written by Raimi and his brother Ivan. In a joint statement from Ghost House Pictures and Mandate Pictures: "We were racing to start production so that we could accommodate Ellen's schedule. But like so many other productions trying to start before the potential SAG strike date, this one needed more time and we had to push back the start of production."

BD says Page didn't like the latest draft of the script, contradicting what the official statement claims. I really want Raimi to knock this one out of the park. I love his previous entries into horror and I've been waiting patiently for him to return. I hope Page dropping out was more a case of not wanting to follow up her JUNO nom with a horror film and less a reaction to a sub-par script. Anyone out there read it? Email me and let me know how it is. Thoughts?

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  • March 1, 2008, 5:50 a.m. CST


    by Wed Vid Guy


  • March 1, 2008, 5:50 a.m. CST

    Too bad

    by SpencerTrilby

    but hopefully Alison Lohman will replace her. I'm daydreaming here.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:03 a.m. CST

    I haven't read them but...

    by hamslime

    We're the scripts to any of the Evil Deads really that good? Were they still fun to watch? I still have hope for the guy. Go Sam! Also keep in mind that Ellen Page said yes to X-Men 3. Just sayin'.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:14 a.m. CST

    Good riddance!

    by stinkyfingerz

    Ellen Page is one of the most annoying, and pretentiously self aware actresses around. I want to enjoy a Sam Raimi flick, not be annoyed to no end like Kirsten Dunst in the Spidey flicks. Maybe I'm the only one, but this is good news to me.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:14 a.m. CST

    Hope Raimi can recapture his mojo

    by kwisatzhaderach

    His mainstream Hollywood stuff has been pretty bland.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:18 a.m. CST

    Opposite of you there, Quint...

    by mediocrates

    I'd have more respect for Page dropping out from a sub-par script than if it was as shallow a reason as you suggested. Raimi might feel the same way about the script, if he's willing to postpone the production to work on it more.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Thank God!!! Ellen Page SUCKS!!!

    by Shakes The Clown

    Now I'm back to being excited about this film.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:22 a.m. CST


    by y7jver01


  • March 1, 2008, 6:26 a.m. CST


    by y7jver01

    Finally A liberal will be in the WHITEHOUSE!!!!

  • March 1, 2008, 6:27 a.m. CST

    Obama as President

    by Literarywanderer

    Now that's a horror story.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:34 a.m. CST

    Either way sounds like Juno is bcomming full of herself

    by Yeti

    Most dangerous thing to do in the entertainment industry? Start believing your own hype.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:43 a.m. CST

    trying to care...

    by ironic_name


  • March 1, 2008, 6:48 a.m. CST

    She saw Crimewave, didn't she?

    by tonagan

  • March 1, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST


    by CuervoJones

    Now look for a non-smart ass kid.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:54 a.m. CST


    by Bad LT

    I am a big fan of Raimi from Evil Dead to Army of Darkness to the Quick & the Dead. Then his work seemed to get more and more watered down and Hollywoodized. I also worry about producer Rob Tapert's comment that this movie would revisit the spirit of the Evil Dead movies but without their "excessive violence." Huh? The Evil Dead movies had "excessive violence"? I thought they had just the right amount of violence.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:55 a.m. CST

    The Quicker and the Deader

    by CuervoJones

    Raimi should make another crazy spaghetti western.

  • March 1, 2008, 7:02 a.m. CST

    Finally A liberal will be in the WHITEHOUSE!!!!

    by classyfredblassy

    Yeah, just like Jimmy Carter! Hello 10% unemployment, and 18% inflation! Yeah!

  • March 1, 2008, 7:10 a.m. CST


    by Sparhawk38

    I remember when I won my first Oscar as young actress. Heady times my friend. I survived it all when I finally realized it wasn't my Oscar that made me better than everyone else. It was my ability....and my looks. The Oscar was just the proof.

  • March 1, 2008, 7:43 a.m. CST


    by AdrianVeidt

    Okay, maybe hate is strong, but I've seen her in two movies and in interviews and I can't tell the goddamned difference between anyone of her personas. Hard Candy she delivers her lines in the exact same way they're delivered in Juno and in talk shows. I couldn't get her Hard Candy character out of my mind while I watched Juno, which just fucked with me.<p> Moreover, she reminds me of all those pretentious girls in high school and college that thought they were smarter than everyone else, and figured they were "artsy," but the REAL artsy girls were the ones with modesty and freckels, god damn it. The kind of girl that just annoys everyone, but they can't bear to tell her. <p><p> Granted, Tom Hanks can deliver lines the same way from movie to movie, but I believe he is truly a different character with each movie.<p> Rant over. Seacrest out.

  • March 1, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST


    by Charlie Murphy

    i'll still see it.

  • March 1, 2008, 8:09 a.m. CST

    All of the above

    by Sirmausalot

    Let's assume the schedule got messed up, the script still needs work and she got cold feet -- this was a way out. The other possibility is that Raimi also changed his mind about the lead, but I doubt it.

  • March 1, 2008, 8:29 a.m. CST

    That's good news

    by Tug

    I'm with everyone saying good riddance. She's overrated and riding the Juno wave right now, let her take on some boring indie lesbian-fest instead. She's annoying as all hell.

  • March 1, 2008, 8:29 a.m. CST

    Obama This

    by Saxster

    Obama lemmings. Dolts have no idea what you're asking for.

  • March 1, 2008, 8:32 a.m. CST

    Ellen Page Is A Pretty Pixie Phantasee

    by LaserPants

    God I'd love to pound that pixie pussy. Of course, odds are she likes girls, not boys so much. Oh well. So cute though! Juno was irritating, but she's a cutie pie regardless.

  • March 1, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    "Hello 10% unemployment, and 18% inflation!"

    by LaserPants

    Those were Reagan's numbers circa 1982, not Carter. Carter was already out of office at that time. 2 years out. How come Republicans have such a hard time seeing any faults whatsoever in their candidates? How come they have a tendency to blame previous administrations for the problems created by the present administration? Weird. I mean, they're still blaming Clinton for EVERYTHING, and he's been out of office for 8 years -- 8 years in which a Republican president managed to ruin the economy, deplete the budget surplus, and plunge us into an endless war started on false pretenses. And you STILL blame the guy whos not in office. Amazing. I mean, whats wrong with you? Don't you understand that you're being fucked over too? Are you all retarded? What?

  • March 1, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST

    oh my

    by DigitalBeachWar


  • March 1, 2008, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Thought you were an MSI fan, AdrianVeidt...

    by leroygrey

    ...and she wasn't Kitty Pride because she sported a pink triangle (now that does sound like a Mark Millar move.) But I'm in no rush to see Ellen Page start stealing roles from the Jessicas of Hollywood... or get cast in the next Hostel.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    But what about Bruce?

    by leroygrey

    That's all I really want to know...

  • March 1, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    Cool. Good for her.

    by Mr. Nice Gaius

    Really. What else is there to say?<P>***sips coffee***

  • March 1, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    Ellen Page is a lesbian

    by The Gospel According to Bastardface

    But she's so much cooler for it. She's also a great actress, and Raimi can be hit and miss.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST

    Ellen Page can only play herself anyway

    by Rupee88

    We don't know that for sure yet, but it is likely.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST


    by Rupee88

    Yeah, there are other actors like that who don't really "act" that much...George Clooney is another example....vs. actors like Deniro or Pacino or Cate Blanchett who really disappear into their roles are really "act". Page is just a cute chick who can remember her lines well. She's not even that hot (no titties), but she is cute and pleasant to look at and can hit her mark, so therefore she will get work.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Someone else is an Alison Lohman fan?

    by Franklin T Marmoset

    I had thought I was the only one.<p>My hat is off to you, SpencerTrilby.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    Similar scripts

    by RenoNevada2000

    What's been said about the DRAG ME TO HELL script sounds a bit similar to Diablo Cody's JENNIFER'S BODY (teen girl possessed). She may have been doing Cody a favor by dropping out, keeping more of a spotlight on her project.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:41 a.m. CST

    Jennifer's Body is an awful script ...

    by The Gospel According to Bastardface

    And Diablo Cody is overrated. There, I said it.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    Ellen Page = 2007's Thora Birch

    by CrazyJoeDavola

    Cute, short, dark-haired intellectual, geek & hipster-approved.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:55 a.m. CST

    With Page

    by Cobbio

    I have to say... I'm with Page on this one. She's smart, cute, makes good decisions career-wise, and regardless of what many Raimi apologists here have written, she's a quality actress.<p> Sam Raimi's an iconic director. He's taken chances, pushed the horror genre in new directions, and channeled Spiderman 1 and 2. I like the guy.<p> But Spiderman 3 was a turd of legendary proportions. People say, "Ah, just get over it. It's fucking Spiderman!" This is true, but I couldn't BELIEVE how bad the film turned out to be. It was silly, emotionally unengaging, poorly written, and writhing with horrible decisions. Raimi pulled a Lucas and destroyed what could've been a classic series by ending it with a turd.<p> Thus I'm skeptical. Page was too.

  • March 1, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST

    hey Lenny8

    by DigitalBeachWar

    why is Raimi a hack?

  • March 1, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    and Cobbio...

    by DigitalBeachWar

    how can you say that Ellen Page has made good decisions career-wise? because she has said yes to any script thrown at her? she probably "turned down" Drag Me To Hell because she was nominated for an Oscar and her agent told her not to take the job.

  • March 1, 2008, 10:14 a.m. CST

    Now they can cast Kirsten Dunst

    by tonagan

    I hear that Raimi is dying to work with her again.

  • March 1, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    Good Riddance? I think not.

    by dr sauch

    Page would have been amazing. Have you seen Hard Candy? I mean, this girl would have been perfect as a horror heroine. Her acting and Raimi's directing style would have been amazing together. Oh well. Maybe they can think of someone else. Or cast Rhada Mitchell or some other idiot, which is what will prob. happen.

  • March 1, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    how do you know?!

    by DigitalBeachWar

    how do you even know that she would have ben "amazing"?!?!? he acting is so contrived!

  • March 1, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST

    Page is gay?

    by uppercanuck

    Where'd THAT come from? Perhaps I'm out of the usual.

  • March 1, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack


  • March 1, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    and saw what happened to her after getting an Oscar and doing Gothika. Horror not a good follow-up to Oscar notice. Can anyone say Catwoman?

  • March 1, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST

    yeah but...

    by DigitalBeachWar

    Halle Berry winning was a fluke. Much would it have been had Ellen Page won.

  • March 1, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Listen up. I want to personally thank you for the Super Tuesday Talkback. That TB set me off on researching Barack Obama and actually watching the debates. I'm fully in support of him now, and excited. There is change on the horizon and that's not just a slogan. Every day that passes by we're deeper into the shit. Like I said, I don't envy the next President. This is some fucking mess to clean up. And watching Bush's last press conference (which such conferences I've avoided for a long time to avoid the truth that our country is led by an imbecile not qualified to manage a Taco Bell), I'm more eager for November to come than Iron Man's opening. So, happy voting Harry. Good luck over there in TX.

  • March 1, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST

    One thing is for sure...

    by Dwide Shrewd

    They won't be releasing this on New Line HD DVD! Both dead. Fuck you, Bob Shaye.

  • March 1, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST

    Because Page doesn't like the script, it's subpar?

    by tmifune78

    Why the fuck would a 21-year old girl not liking a script make it subpar? - A ridiculous statement. I think I'll put my trust in Raimi rather than the comatose it girl of the year whose fifteen minutes are almost up.

  • March 1, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack


  • March 1, 2008, 11:18 a.m. CST


    by bluebottle

    you guys are getting too predictable. I feel sorry for Judd Apatow who's surely going to feel the sting of backlash next. Backlash!

  • March 1, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    What a surprise...

    by password.swordfish

    an intelligent, sarcastic, independent female gets repeatedly slammed. People do love a good backlash. Where's the backlash for trashy, untalented, robotic idiots (i.e. the Jessicas mentioned previously)? Oh wait... pretty is the new talent.

  • March 1, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    How can anyone know if she was appropriate?

    by CarmillaVonDoom

    If you haven't read the script, your opinion means very little. I can understand some dislike, but she might have been PERFECT for the role. AND she kicked major ass in "Hard Candy"!

  • March 1, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Kirk'll be gutted

    by king_of_nowhere

    That is all.

  • March 1, 2008, 11:33 a.m. CST

    DO YOU ...

    by BringingSexyBack


  • March 1, 2008, 11:34 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    about brother and sisters who swap sexualities. kajagoo!

  • March 1, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    Kirk'll be gutted by king_of_nowhere

    by Cpt Kirks 2pay

    Yeah I am a bit, but I'm trying to keep an open mind - if I hadn't already lost it. Oh and you people bashing Ellen - LEAVE ELLEN ALOOOONE!!! LEAVE ELLEEEEN ALOOOOONE!!!!!!!!!

  • March 1, 2008, 11:42 a.m. CST

    Heh, speak of the devil...

    by king_of_nowhere

    Kirk, Isn't it about time you came back to the zone?

  • March 1, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST

    your opinion means very little

    by spacechampion

    That pretty much says it all about talkback regulars.

  • March 1, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    spacechampion killed the TB

    by king_of_nowhere

  • March 1, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    all this Ellen Page hate

    by Charlie Murphy

    it saddens me.

  • March 1, 2008, noon CST

    i don't get the EP hate either

    by king_of_nowhere

    But as usual, the TBers hate on anything that's popular.

  • March 1, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    Hurry up and post a bogus script review

    by INWOsuxRED

    You know you're going to, just do it already.

  • March 1, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Good move by her

    by Sakurai

    If she starts taking roles in movies like this she will become irrelevant. She needs to be in films that can help her focus her talent.

  • March 1, 2008, 12:13 p.m. CST

    I love...

    by DigitalBeachWar

    how everyone who "hates" Raimi is all due to one movie (Spiderman 3)!!!! He has done other great films that no one ever talks about, like A Simple Plan.

  • March 1, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    changing over to horror

    by INWOsuxRED

    worked for that buffy chick, right?

  • March 1, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    I'm sure they can get Sarah Michelle Gellar to do it

    by wintocha67

    She's a horror icon.

  • March 1, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    I met Obama. Looked him in the eye. Shook his hand.

    by AllPowerfulWizardOfOz

    And he is the real deal I do not agree with all his far left polices but he is the right man for the job right now. We need someone who is going to be able to work with others and mend relations we have destroyed across the globe. Obama can get that done. Plus the fear card is not going to work this time around for the Republicans. The world has and will always have threats that is just a fact of life. Terror has and will always exists and to paint that as some new revelation which the Republicans did for the last 7 years will not sell this time at the ballot box. As far as the economy goes you can't blame a democrat this time because this is all Bush and the Republicans. They fucked us folks and it's time for some real CHANGE! <BR> <B$> Obama 08~

  • March 1, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST

    stop talking about..

    by DigitalBeachWar

    fucking Obama and politics in here... find some other blog to talk about that propaganda.

  • March 1, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST

    Get politics the fuck outta this TB

    by king_of_nowhere

    Evidently, this TB is reserved for Ellen Page & Sam Raimi haters.

  • March 1, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Where's the...

    by king_of_nowhere

    "Rolls Eyes" emoticon thingy when you need it?

  • March 1, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    I don't care much for Ellen Page...

    by DigitalBeachWar

    but I love Sam. He was nice enough to send flowers to my grandmothers funeral.

  • March 1, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Now that I think about it...

    by Queerbait

    Kitty Pride must of been pregnant. She traded her hamburger phone for a snazzy X-men suit, & her hormones were outta wack because she made out with the Ice-meister! That's not her boo.....

  • March 1, 2008, 1:17 p.m. CST

    sam i hear lindsay lohan needs some cash.

    by dr.bulber

    fresh off her multiple razzy domination.

  • March 1, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    what about Scout Taylor-Compton?

    by king_of_nowhere

    Seeing as she's been doing a lot of "horror" movies.

  • March 1, 2008, 1:58 p.m. CST

    I appear to be in love with Ellen Page. Curious.

    by mooch

    Surely starring in a Sam Raimi film would have been the ultimate "look at me, I'm so artsy and alternative" move for her to make? Maybe she just realised she'd got carried away when she said yes.

  • March 1, 2008, 2:08 p.m. CST


    by Vi

    High Unemployment and bad inflation are coming no matter who the next president is, thanks to your buddy Dubya and his economic "leadership".

  • March 1, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    so sag is gonna strike?

    by bacci40

    guess they didnt like the wga contract after we should be in a full recession by june, this should send los angeles right into a deep economic hole...i see food riots on the horizon

  • March 1, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Guess they

    by Mike_D

  • March 1, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Guess they'll have to twig-rape somebody else!!

    by Mike_D

    sorry, it posted twice.

  • March 1, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST


    by Doctor Phibes

    They should get Bruce Campbell to take Ellen Page's place since he's got 20 times the acting talent of Page anyway. Maybe he and Raimi aren't on speaking terms right now. All I"m saying is the only way I could forgive Raimi for those god-awful Spiderman movies is if he made something just like, only better than Evil Dead. I know that sounds stupid, naive and immature but it's the truth.

  • March 1, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    After his 2nd term, of course.

  • March 1, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    by I Dunno

  • March 1, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    There's nothing far left about Obama

    by I Dunno

    ...except the concept that Americans should stop the fucking partisan bullshit and come together as Americans to get shit done. That's what the far left fears most because this "rooting for your favorite football team" horseshit mentality is all they have left. <p>And all that goes double for Hillrty.</p>

  • March 1, 2008, 3:08 p.m. CST

    Obama doesn't work with people! where's the evidence of that?

    by W3bzpinn3r

    Obama is the LEAST of the three candidates to reach across party lines. His voting record is strickly liberal agenda items. He has NEVER attempted to work with republicans. Why is he perfect for the Presidency? He has little political experience, he has zero diplomatic experience, no military training, never wrote a single piece of legislation, and is as close to a Marxist socialist as you can get in America. He won't end the war on terror, because that would be national security suicide. All Obama is, is a blank check that people want to write all kinds of numbers in... but if there are no funds in the account, it won't do any good. Now, none of the candidates are ideal, but McCain is the least risk. Obama wants to open our borders to any and all terrorists and cozy up to them. Hillary is in it for her ego. She wants to be Prez because everything she's done has been to meet her ambitious goals. That's the only reason she and Bill are still married, is coz she needs him attract the people who fear her. Everyone loved Bill... no one loves Hillary.<p> Oh, and Carter WAS to blame for the 10% unemployment and 18% inflation. A little known fact is that most effects of a President's term isn't seen until a few years after he leaves (if he's a 1 term prez.) Reagan had to clean up Carter's mess. <p>

  • March 1, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    Here name is Ellen Page..

    by pk68

    NOT JUNO! Juno is character she played. Why not call her Kitty Pryde too? Lameasses. She can act in whatever she wants to, it's her career.

  • March 1, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST


    by dr sauch

    If you live in Texas, just vote for him. He will make a better president than Hillary would. She is an intelligent, capable person, but he is a better leader, and that is what we need right now. Hillary would be a fantastic Secretary of State, or Secy. of Health and Human Services, or something.

  • March 1, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Smart move

    by skywalkerfamily

    She probably saw Spider-Man 3.

  • March 1, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST

    and she didn't happen to catch the Rush Hours, Family Man, Red D

    by tmifune78

  • March 1, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Horror is the kiss of death for actors

    by skywalkerfamily

    in Hollywood.

  • March 1, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Sam & Ivan wrote Spider-Man 3..

    by Aethyrr

    ..and that's all I need to say

  • March 1, 2008, 4:22 p.m. CST

    Raimi dragged me to hell during spidey 3

    by skywalkerfamily

    Way to ruin a good franchise!

  • March 1, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Hillary, sorry.

    by I Dunno

    ...and the far right has an equal interest in keeping the divide between the supposed left and right alive. Maybe Obama is full of shit in saying we need to end this partisan

  • March 1, 2008, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Drag Me to Hell starring Metallica.

    by skywalkerfamily

  • March 1, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Why does no one ever mention "A Simple Plan"?

    by Kirbymanly

    That film was proof that Raimi could play it straight. Love that's perfect. But then there was "For Love Of The Game"...

  • March 1, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    Marion Cotillard puts on tin foil hat...

    by SkinJob69

    "I think we’re lied to about a number of things," she said, singling out September 11. <p> Referring to the two passenger jets flown into the World Trade Centre, Miss Cotillard said: "We see other towers of the same kind being hit by planes, are they burned? There was a tower, I believe it was in Spain, which burned for 24 hours. <p> It never collapsed. None of these towers collapsed. And there [New York], in a few minutes, the whole thing collapsed." <p> Miss Cotillard suggested that the towers, planned in the early 1960s, were an outdated "money sucker" which would have cost so much to modernise that it was easier to destroy them.<p> Turning to America’s space programme, she said: "Did a man really walk on the moon? I saw plenty of documentaries on it, and I really wondered. And in any case I don’t believe all they tell me, that’s for sure."

  • March 1, 2008, 5:35 p.m. CST

    smartest move she could make...

    by Tourist

    ...Like I said before, don't want to pull a Swank/Berry and follow up oscar glory with ass licking Dark Castle/Ghost House shit. Then again, she didn't win, so the curse obviously isn't taking effect.

  • March 1, 2008, 5:41 p.m. CST

    drag me to hell starring john travolta.

    by duchuvney_post_x

    in a dress. :)

  • March 1, 2008, 5:43 p.m. CST

    Hey Joeelliot, I agree...

    by Tourist

    ...Fuck that studio that gave us Lord Of The Rings and the career of P.T Anderson. I'm all for a giant mega conglomerate who takes 4 years to figure out how to turn a Spike Jonze flick into a happy meal endorsement.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:01 p.m. CST

    Wow . . .alot of hate for Ellen Page

    by MrJJonz

    People saying she can't act. Probably same people who on this site defend Jason Statham (how the hell anyone can defend his acting is beyond me. Ha, I just called it acting)

  • March 1, 2008, 6:10 p.m. CST

    Page on SNL tonight (in case you didn't know)

    by SkinJob69

  • March 1, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    To hit on girls like Ellen Page.........

    by Han Cholo

    I would go in direct and just tell her how cute or adorable I think she is and follow it up with some witty banter. I swear this works like a charm with girls that are smart and kind of feisty. Also it really works well on girls with glasses.

  • March 1, 2008, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Ellen Page is...

    by wackybantha

    ...a pretty good actor and should have a pretty decent career. Her Juno character, as written and directed, can be a little annoying at times but that was Juno and thankfully it did not ruin the film. JUNO is a good film, however, I don't think it should have been nominated for Best Picture. In interviews, Ellen Page kind of comes off as much more serious and intellectual then what we are accustomed to seeing from our celebrities. It's kinda like being a doctor and Doogie Howser M.D. is lecturing you. That little teenaged bastard physician! It's just a little annoying, I guess, to think that someone so young has it all figured out or at least appears to be so confident that they don't care about others' thoughts or opinions because we haven't caught up to their level of thought process. Anyhoo, I think she is in a certain phase in her life that she will eventually grow out of and become less of what is being perceived as being somewhat pretentious. Other than that, she's cool. That is all. Moron Out!

  • March 1, 2008, 7:33 p.m. CST

    Who the fuck is Ellen Page?????

    by Series7

    Seriously? God damn kanuck's.

  • March 1, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST

    Why is it.....

    by moviemenace

    that screenwriter have teenagers speak like there in there 20's, adolescents speak like there in there 30's, and 20-something's speak like there teenagers?

  • March 1, 2008, 8:57 p.m. CST

    What about Jack and Diane?

    by I Dunno

    Teenage lesbian werewolves! She was attached to that. That's really the only project I'm interested in seeing her in.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:04 p.m. CST

    Good! Now I'll go see the movie!

    by Zeke25:17

    Only way I woulda seen it if Page was in it was if she was killed in the first five she didn't like the script, did she? Who the fuck does she think she's working with, Shakespeare? IT'S A RAIMI HORROR FILM. Hopefully she'll go procure herself a hasty lobotomy; and we'll get a chick in the lead who actually looks like a woman as opposed to a 15 year old boy.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Who else rooted for the pedophile in Hard Candy?

    by Zeke25:17

    Can't believe it was just me.

  • March 1, 2008, 9:29 p.m. CST

    Ditto what I Dunno said...

    by JiveTalker

    Was looking forward to seeing her and Olivia Thirlby in some lesbo werewolf-on-werewolf action. Now why the hell did THAT project get dumped?

  • March 1, 2008, 11:31 p.m. CST


    by Dwide Shrewd

    There = the location of an object. <p>Their = it belongs to them. <p>They're = They are. <p>Learn it, live it, love it, for fucks sake.

  • March 1, 2008, 11:41 p.m. CST

    F*King HATED Juno's nauseating EMO music

    by quantize

    ruined the film entirely...vomit of the worst emotional instructive i could barely give a shit what she does anyway.

  • March 2, 2008, 12:38 a.m. CST

    After Tonight's SNL...

    by br1947

    THANK GOD SHE'S GONE!!!!!<p>Raimi should only do horror when paired with The Bruce. All else will fail</p>

  • March 2, 2008, 12:55 a.m. CST


    by y7jver01


  • March 2, 2008, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Juno and Barack Obama

    by nyj_et

    Change? Change? Spare Change? Dollar Mister? Change? That's all I've heard of this guy Obama. That and he's promising to do.....well I'm not sure exactly what. He does, however have all the charisma of Adolf Hitler. He can certainly work a crowd like the fuherer could. He's certainly pointed out all of the problems he sees in the country. And proposed absolutely nothing except change and hope. I have a bad feeling his brand of change is going to be very expensive. I liked Ellen Page until I saw SNL tonight. She came off as though she thinks she is too cool for just about anything or anybody. Found myself very turned off by it.

  • March 2, 2008, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Regarding horror as an actor's kiss of death

    by Jackie Boy

    Wasn't Clooney's first big role From Dusk Till dawn? Sure, he was on that tv show, but still...

  • March 2, 2008, 3:11 a.m. CST

    Ellen Page *groan*

    by Machine Gun Simon Fire Viterbo

    Juno was awful. AWFUL! Ellen PAge is awful. JUST AWFUL! I hated her in Hard Candy and loathed her in Juno. I would be happy if she was never in an other film again. At least none I want to see. The prospect of a Raimi brothers written horror film is deffinatly exciting but with there track record I won't hold my breath. I believe the bad out number the good if you count em up. The odds just aren't in their favour, no matter how good the good are. The bad are BAD. Spidey 3?! Good grief.

  • March 2, 2008, 7:30 a.m. CST

    Spiderman 3- Reap What You Sow

    by RenoNevada2000

    For those who are bitching about Spidey 3 I have a question- Before the movie went into production, where you one of the ones demanding that Venom be put into the movie? Well Avi Arad (or however you spell his name) listened to you and forced Raimi to put him into the film, throwing off the whole balance of the film, ruining it. So shut up and eat the turd soup you asked for.

  • March 2, 2008, 8:33 a.m. CST

    Ellen Page isn't good enough to drop out of a flick

    by TruPhan

    Listen, sweetie. You were replaceable in X-Men, and you were serviceable in Hard Candy and Juno. Thank God you had some decent scripts to back up some serviceable performances. But you have not yet arrived. Let's see you play someone without the CW angst or at least finish enough movies for me to count with two hands and then maybe you can consider yourself good enough to turn down roles.

  • March 2, 2008, 8:35 a.m. CST


    by TruPhan

    Agreed. Seen 3 films with her and only 1 character thus far.

  • March 2, 2008, 11:48 a.m. CST


    by INWOsuxRED

    Raimi could have walked if the studio was fucking with him to the point of ruining his film. While they did Venom wrong, that wasn't the major problem of the film. They did Sabretooth even worse in the first X-Men but that didn't bring the film down.

  • March 2, 2008, 12:01 p.m. CST

    Did juno she dropped out? I had no idea.

    by JDanielP

    Juno, it does get kinda crazy in Hollywood.

  • March 2, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST

    raimi doesnt suck

    by crazy4dragons13

    raimi made his great films, better than most. ellen page and diablo cody kinda suck though, alls diablo cody has is that she was a stripper for a while, big deal and all the gollywood producers want t f her. junos writing is polished and lame and not as "real" as a lot of people say it is. soupy sales references? i mean come on.

  • March 2, 2008, 12:12 p.m. CST

    Venom was Spider-Man 3's saving grace... pun intended.

    by W3bzpinn3r

    The Eddie Brock/black suit angle was the only thing that made that movie watchable. Sandman was a LAME character. His motive was bad too. There are so many healthcare for the poor children programs in NY that there would be no reason for him to steal money. It was completely unbelievable. The fact they retconned Spidey into a murderer was horrid too. Raimi jumped the shark and thank God that Avi Arad was there to curb Raimi's stupidity. The dancing scene was lame tho. That was horrid. They needed to focus more on what the effects were on Spider-Man, not just Peter. I wanted to see Spidey throwing thugs into walls, or causing serious damage, etc. Not dancing to 70'a music. That, and MJ SERIOUSLY needs a new face. That hyena is UGLY!

  • March 2, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    And Venom was perfect.

    by W3bzpinn3r

    How can anyone say they did him wrong, aside from screentime? The origin was the same, the look was perfect, the powers were great, the only thing non-venom about Venom was offering to share the kill with Sandman. Other than that, Venom was the most accurate character translation from comics to film.

  • March 2, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    "Eddie Brock was so whiny, tho!"

    by W3bzpinn3r

    Read the original comics featuring Venom... Eddie was a whiny pussy in those too. "You destroyed my career, whah whah whah, Spider-Man whah whah boo hoo!" So yeah, Venom was spot on. If any fans should be angry, it should be Sandman fans. They took a simple overindulgent thug and turned him into a family man. As if simple criminals don't exist.

  • March 2, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    Aren't we assuming a lot?

    by password.swordfish

    It sounded to me like there were scheduling conflicts when the makers of Drag Me to Hell had to change the start date. Maybe she wanted to do the flick, but couldn't get our of her previous commitment. Maybe she decided it wasn't the best choice for her right now. Maybe the script is shit. Maybe she's getting too big an ego. We don't know anything beyond what is said above with any certainty. I find it interesting how many people are instantly putting this on her. So, would you all hate her just as much if she wasn't riding high off a recent hit movie? I fucking hate it when the cool thing becomes trashing people just because they're popular, and you can point out how non-conforming you are. See, I hated her first! Say what you will, I think you're just not used to a female who has something intelligent to say, as opposed to the usual "(giggle) I liked this character, cause she was like, so complicated. Like, OMG, she had two boys chasing her, and one was really nice, but a total dork. She was really torn, cause she was way into the good-looking asshole. It was so deep." I'll take a shade of pretentiousness over that drivel. And for fuck's sake nyj_et, can we please retire the Hitler card? I can't think of a situation in which it applies less, and it's the last ditch effort of someone who has nothing else to argue.

  • March 2, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Plenty o'fish in that sea

    by Down_In_Front

    No big deal. Sam will find a more suitable, talented actress to fill that part.

  • March 2, 2008, 2:18 p.m. CST

    I hear Kate Beckinsale is available!

    by skywalkerfamily

    Or Keanu Reeves. This movie sounds like Constantine.

  • March 2, 2008, 2:28 p.m. CST

    Juno was last years Napoleon Dynamite

    by Orionsangels

  • March 2, 2008, 4:48 p.m. CST

    Only problem I had with Venom...

    by Zeke25:17

    was that he should have said "we" as opposed to "I"...though I guess the line "Our spider-sense is tingling--if you know what we're talking about" wouldn't have come off as funny then! And absolutely, the look was perfect. Truly, the only misstep with Spidey 3 was Bryce Howard as Gwen; she was so damn adorable you almost wished the cab with MJ in it would have crashed, killing her off so Gwen would stick around (and understand, I LIKE Kirsten Dunst in the role!). Hey, that's it! BRYCE DALLAS HOWARD FOR THE LEAD! Get on the phone, Sam!!!

  • March 2, 2008, 6:14 p.m. CST

    I just felt Spiderman 3 was horribly rushed

    by br1947

    there were alot of good ideas that were poorly executed and all crammed together, which is why most people are pissed about it. It could have been great, and everyone sees that, but ended up a total failure. Even if they had just changed the ending, it would have help tremendously. Have Spidey beat Sandman with the symbiote, then end the film with the bell tower scene. A shot of Spidey & MJ in the belltower watching the sun rise, back the camera out, pan down inside the tower to the floor, where we see a black form rising, then leap at the camera, flashing a Venom grin. Roll credits. That's what everyone wanted to see (at least those who did want to see Venom). That and lose fucking Emo dancing Parker. Raimi lost ALOT of respect with that.

  • March 2, 2008, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Obama does compare with Hitler tho.

    by W3bzpinn3r

    Not in an ideology, or philosophy, but in the lat 30's and early 40's, Hitler would work crowds up to a fervor by playing on emotions without giving an ounce of substance in his speeches. Obama does the same thing. Hitler spoke often of hope, and a better Germany, but never said how he planned to achieve it; Obama does the same about the USA.<p> Now, I'm not saying Obama would be Hitler in office. I'm merely comparing their speech styles. <p> Not that Obama would get elected anyway. The largest percentage of voters are older white men, and they'd sooner worship Satan than see a black man in the White House. I'm not being a racist, just stating the hard facts. Hillary can't win because she IS Satan. McCain shouldn't win coz he's a putz, but since we can't clone Reagan, we're stuck with another liberal Republican for prez. But at least with McCain I know I can feel safe at night with a supported military, rather than the stripped down version the Clintons and Obama favor. I don't want a president who wants to meet dictators and terrorists to negotiate... I want a president who wants to kick their asses until they are extinct.

  • March 2, 2008, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Dems to blame for the housing bubble/slump

    by Darth_Inedible

    Of course Bush also shares the blame for continuing Clinton's RETARDED effort to "address disparities in access to sub-prime lending" and "boost minority homeownership" by bending rules, twisting arms and training real estate agents to game the system. Here's an article from july '99 that spells it out: www. prnewswire. com/cgi-bin/

  • March 2, 2008, 6:48 p.m. CST

    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

    by W3bzpinn3r

  • March 2, 2008, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Yeah Ok, but...

    by password.swordfish

    Hitler is brought up in reference to Obama to serve a specific, rhetorical purpose: to associate the two, regardless of why. They are not the only two politicians to make those kinds of speeches, in fact I'd say that is the speaking style of most politicians. To bring up Hitler is an obvious ploy to vilify Obama in the most ridiculous way. Thank god you can't clone Reagan, the rest of the world couldn't handle being attacked randomly for no reason (one of Reagan's fave past times). Poor Grenada. And now I'm done. No more freaking politic talk on a movie talkback for me. Sorry to be one of those people.

  • March 2, 2008, 7:30 p.m. CST


    by Stevie Grant

    Why are so many people trolling on AICN? It's so idiotic an self-serving. The posts only wastes people's energy and time, but accomplish nothing. Oh, wait, the trolls seem to be liberal... nevermind.

  • March 2, 2008, 7:44 p.m. CST


    by Stevie Grant

    The real cause of the housing buble lays with the FED's cuts to interest rates a few years ago. Obviously, there was no way to have seen the bubble coming (such is the nature of bubbles). But, yeah, we got to deal with it. The last century, there were only two collapses in the housing industry that didn't precede a recession, the one right before the Korean War and the one right before the Vietnam War. It doesn't look good, but this ain't post LBJ, Carter policy. There isn't a Reagan who can just repeal punitive tax rates to stimulate a economic boom. We Americans are going to have to resort to hard work to work our way out of this situation. Obviously the total opposite of the Democrat Pres. Noms. positions. Apparrantly government spending magically doesn't add to debt or retard the economy, it's just magic money from the "rich" that doesn't affect anything else.

  • March 2, 2008, 8:16 p.m. CST

    Thanks to this TB, I am voting Clinton and hate Ellen Page!

    by Darth Bauer

    Thanks AICN!

  • March 2, 2008, 9:12 p.m. CST

    You Republicans like sex in bathrooms!

    by skywalkerfamily

    Larry Craig enthusiasts!

  • March 2, 2008, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Hat's off to YOU, Franklin T Marmoset

    by SpencerTrilby

    at last someone can appreciate GOOD actresses in this site. Lohman rocked in Matchstick Men. And did I mention Where The Truth Lies? THAT was a performance. A boner-inducing one, no less. And she can still play teenagers while she's almost 30! What a lady... Can't wait for her to star in some big-budget (a decent one, if possible) flick and have her big break. <p> As for Ellen Page, she's a one trick pony acting-wise IMO. But GOOD GOD she was stunning in her leather suit as Kitty Pryde!

  • March 2, 2008, 11:12 p.m. CST

    Sub-prime housing?

    by br1947

    <p>Never, ever did I ever think I'd see a discussion like this on this site. EVER.</P><P>Ah, for the good old days of "Bill Clinton has a beer and cheets on..."</p>:-)

  • March 2, 2008, 11:23 p.m. CST


    by Stevie Grant

    the sub-prime housing fiasco is a really fascinating situation... as long as you're a economics or finance geek. I really oversimplified things in my previous post, for example, there were laws passed that allowed for the bundling of the sub-prime mortgages... nevermind. There's no reason to subject unwitting TB'ers to this kind of talk. I better switch to politics or explicitly describe the sexual "moves" I would invent in the course of a one night stand with some actress.

  • March 2, 2008, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Just end every post with a Harry insult

    by br1947

    or a comment on why movie X is better than movie Y, the more obscure, the better! You can work finance into it, as long as you include the obligatory "Flames on" or "Has a Beer and CHEETS". Example: "FED has a Beer and CHEETS on the American homeowner" It's pretty simple and the options are limitless

  • March 3, 2008, 1:29 a.m. CST

    Dwide Shrewd

    by moviemenace

    Their are a lot of assholes in this world. The biggest assholes are the ones who like to correct grammar as if there English-fucking-lit teacher. So take your red pen, jam it straight up your uppity ass and get the fuck over yourself. It’s a talkback, not an essay. Douche.

  • March 3, 2008, 1:42 a.m. CST

    moviemenace is mad.

    by frankenfickle

    settle down, buddy. grammar, spelling, and punctuation are important. do you get mad when someone tells you your fly's down? no. you're grateful.

  • March 3, 2008, 5:20 a.m. CST

    what's really funny is when grammar nazis

    by Lost Jarv

    correct someone else, but fuck up in their post- Dewd Shrewd missed an apostrophe in "fucks sake"

  • March 3, 2008, 7:14 a.m. CST

    that's one deadite that can't be undead

    by Kloipy


  • March 3, 2008, 7:26 a.m. CST


    by Lost Jarv

    That line of dialogue makes me want to smash my head until I forget it. Sort of a home made labotomy. <P>The world NEEDS Evil Dead 4. It is essential and would probably solve the Arab-israeli conflict. <P>Seriously, all peoples coming together to bask in the glow of Ash.....

  • March 3, 2008, 7:28 a.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    I don't care what Raimi needs to do. But he needs to get moving on ED4. No more spidey, no more ghosthouse pictures, just Evil Dead 4

  • March 3, 2008, 8:05 a.m. CST

    I love CRIMEWAVE

    by Halloween68

    You have to take it for what it is though ... an evolution of Raimi, Tapert, Bruce and Ivan's early Super 8 films. It's them having as much fun as they can have while trying to avoid (unsuccessfullly) studio interferance. To me it's a ridiculous disaster that cracks me up everytime I watch it. I admit, it's not for everyone, but the 3 Stooges fan in me loves every bit of it.

  • March 3, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    ain't that the truth Kloipy.

    by Lost Jarv

    Ain't that the truth. <P>And as it is part 4 of a horror franchise it needs to be set in space

  • March 3, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Orson wells is dead? Does everyone know?

    by donwillymo


  • March 3, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST

    Nikola Tesla's Field Theories ...

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    Britney Spears' psych issues, The Charge of the Light Brigade recorded on a wax cylinder, Immanuel Velikovsky's Catastrophism, Pikachu, marigolds, The Scottish Labour Party, the first Hispanic-American astronaut Dr. Franklin Chang-Diaz, a Blue & White Power Macintosh G3, Colorectal cancer, Lick Observatory, Emperor Go-Mizunoo of Japan, and Barack Obama. What is: a bunch of shit that has nothing at all to do with Ellen Page, Sam Raimi or Drag Me To Hell. Continue.

  • March 3, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST

    On A Related Note:

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    I absolutely believe that Al Gore's movie An Inconvenient Truth was, in fact, a movie.

  • March 3, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    Wes Bentley = "American Beauty" followed by "Soul Survivors".

    by Elgyn6655321

    It`s true, if you`re an up-and-coming actor/actress, following up your big breakthrough movie with a horror flick is a BAD idea. I use Bentley as an example. Now he`s the (crappy) villian in "Ghost Rider" for pete`s sake. On a side note, following up your breakthrough movie with a bunch of crappy comedies is a bad idea too. I`m looking at YOU, Jon Heder. As for Page, meh, she`s alright I guess - but she does basically seem to play the same character in every movie.......but in all fairness the same can be said for many character actors.

  • March 3, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Oh and what about "The Gift"?

    by Elgyn6655321

    That was a great movie which sadly seems to have already been forgotten. Oh and "Hard Candy" is one of the most overrated movies EVER. One of the worst, most anti-climatic endings I`ve ever seen in a movie. Not Page`s fault, though.

  • March 3, 2008, 5:06 p.m. CST


    by samsquanch

    You may be right, but wouldn't it be kind of fun to see what would happen? <p> And enough with pointing out that middle name of his. it's beneath you. If America hasn't already thrown down it's whittlin' stick and choked on it's corn-cob pipe over Obama having the muslim equivalent of "Donald" in his name, it won't now.

  • March 4, 2008, 5:30 a.m. CST

    Lohman is in

    by optimus122

    Excellent , shes pretty damn good...

  • March 4, 2008, 1:13 p.m. CST

    I thought "Drag Me To Hell"

    by Snookeroo

    Was about a cross-dresser.

  • March 7, 2008, 7 p.m. CST

    Get your Facts Straight about Wes Bentley

    by subliminalmonk

    Wes did Soul Survivors before American Beauty, it just came out after. Anyway it had no effect on his carrer, he quit after Four Feathers. And is now just deciding to work again. He did GR for a friend.