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Has the director of HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS leaked?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. If you're a Potter-head like I am you've most likely been dying to hear who is going to helm the final movie of the series, adapt the great book. The word hasn't changed from the early rumors. I think they're still breaking that book in two and releasing it as 2 movies. I love that idea as a way to squeeze in every last detail of the book (minus hour 3 of the Harry and Hermione camping trip, of course).
Some might be disappointed with this... I myself have some concerns, but I'll get to that after the rumor:
Ho guys,
With big names like Spielberg and Guillermo del Toro being rumored for taking the director's chair for HARRY POTTER AND THE DEATHLY HALLOWS, many of us were getting excited, could Cauron even come back?? The name we're hearing today is decidedly... underwhelming. The news comes from a seemingly random source, author Lois Lowry's blog. She is the author of THE GIVER which has been waiting to go into production for some time now, and it looks like she will have to wait a little longer:
"Bad news from The Giver Movie front. DAVID YATES, the director currently working on the next Harry Potter film, was supposed to begin The Giver film next. But he has just decided he wants to do the final Harry Potter first, thereby postponing The Giver by several years."
(Link: http://loislowry.typepad.com/lowry_updates/2008/02/country-matters.html)
So there you have it... David Yates... again.
-Bean
I like David Yates, I loved the realism he brought to ORDER OF THE PHOENIX and I greatly anticipate his adaptation of HALF-BLOOD PRINCE, one of my favorites of the series. I'm not in the camp that hates what he brings to the movies, but I will say that one of my favorite things about the Potter films was that they changed gears every movie or two. That has kept the series fresh.
Maybe when we see HALF-BLOOD PRINCE we'll see that Yates himself is changing things up. Right now this is second hand information that could be an assumption made on the part of the author of THE GIVER. Probably not, but it's not written in stone as far as I know. What're your thoughts?
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FIRST?
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FUCK
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i like number five just fine but i was holding out hope for cuaron. *sigh*
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I dunno 'bout this....
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I want a fucking vision. Not strict summation. Btw, this is far and away the closest to first I've been...bastards.
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and here i was hoping for emily watson's first topless scene and lots of big explosions
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and here i was hoping for emily watson's first topless scene and lots of big explosions
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I like Order a lot, but I craved seeing Del Toro's Hallows.
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Come on...Hobbit!
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Feb 20, 2008 6:12:48 PM CST
Sorry Leafy McPlantsalot, I should have waited, damn my dial-up.
by stereotypical evil archer
Yep I have dial-up, it sucks, but it's free.
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The Harry Potter books are better than the movies. If you're just watching the movies, you lost. Harry Potter & Lord of the Rings & Narnia & Lemony Snicket & Earthsea & His Dark Materials = greatness.
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it's just, it's not all that great a story, is it? i'm going to go download some videos of horny midgets fucking.
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Feb 20, 2008 6:16:35 PM CST
fastcars, what about A Song of Ice and Fire?
by stereotypical evil archer
If you like well written Fantasy, George R.R. Martin is where it's at.
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movie! He's that damn good!!!!
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which was my favorite of the books. I really hope Lois is talking out of her ass. He'll make 'Deathly Hallows' 87 fuckin' minutes.
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nutsack. no not really, but he'd be a perfect choice
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Feb 20, 2008 6:25:35 PM CST
fastcars, don't forget Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser!
by stereotypical evil archer
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And Pee Wee Herman for Hermonie.
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This news came out HOURS ago.
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I've only remotely enjoyed each and every Potter movie. I have huge gripes about each one, most notable the actors' terrible performances. The books can't be torn apart, though, I'll just have to stick with that and my version of the movies in my head.
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Feb 20, 2008 6:41:39 PM CST
As long as they bring in John Williams to round up the score...
by evil hobbit
...I'm all game for Yates. He had a nice style. But Curaon would be coolest ofc. Imagine the finale with a little of that Children of Men flair to it!
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Jk Rowling confirmed last week at the UCD James Joyce awards of which she was a recipient that she is planning a very long break. She has her first non potter novel due very soon. Rowling wanted to be shot of potter but her 14 year daughter and her daughters friends asked her to think again.Potter is WB's cash cow. There will be an eighth harry potter book. but it will take a decade to write and Rowling as said as much.
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Huge Jackman to play Daniel Radcliffe!
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Yes, yes! I liked those.
As a child, I was listening to Kraftwerk's The Man-Machine and not sorting out properly where a repeated word began and ended, so instead of hearing Ma-achine ma-chine ma-chine ma-chine it sounded more to me like Sheel-ba Sheel-ba Sheel-ba Sheel-ba (somehow). -
Yates delivered a good film from a difficult book and he deserves credit for the risks he took.
In fact, I'd rank OOTP as the 2nd best Potter film, after Cuaron's POA
on the other hand, there's still a big gap between 2nd and 1st and he's not in Cuaron's league just yet. Guess we'll have to wait to see how Yates handles HPB (maybe my favourite Potter book) to see if he's the right choice for TDH. -
One of the greatest things about the Potter films was that new directors constantly came in and offered new visions. Things kept getting changed up so much, and a fresh take is presented. Unless Yates really changes his style, I'm not sure what I think of a director doing three books back to back.
I thought OOTP was great and I'm willing to see what he does with HBP but... come on. I was REALLY pulling for Guillermo but that kinda died when I heard he had the Hobbit (which I'm still PUMPED UP about). But Cuaron hasn't done one since three... it'd be great for him to return after we've had a couple of others. He offered such a... terrific vision. My fav Potter film.
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OOTP was probably the second best movie which is saying something as it's adapted from the weakest book. The battle at the ministry of magic was the most exciting scene of the series, so I'm down with Yates. I did like the rotating directors and was kinda hopin for a super-A-lister to close out the series, but Guillermo del Toro has approximately 97592 projects on his plate, and much as I'd like to see Cuaron come back, I'd rather see him do something different, as I think he's the best director working today.
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Feb 20, 2008 7:11:31 PM CST
You know what? I want to see a Michael Bay HP movie.
by skidmarkedundies
Just for the heck of it. You know it would PWN.
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Of the rest of the Potters being interesting. One and two were cheesy fun, three was actually good, and 4 and 5 were embarrassing lame and childish. Neither were exciting. I just don't understand the Harry universe, people call me childish but I just don't buy this lame world of wizards. I tried reading some of the books and put them down because I felt like I was reading a bad toddlers novel.
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I have mixed feelings about Yates, but I felt his casting choices in OOTP were sound if not inspired (Luna, Umbridge). However, I have other major problems with that film--from the fact that it looked like a "Lifetime" movie of the week, to the awful adaptation. As long as Steve Kloves is the guy who does the adaptation for book 7, it won't suck as bad as OOTP--but I agree about changing gears. And for gods sake Book 7 will need it. Make it ONE movie and get Cuaron to do it.
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Warners were very sly in their hiring of debut feature director David Yates. IMO that allowed them to have more influence over the movies than someone like Cuaron who really put his own stamp on proceedings. So what we got from Yates was what WB have always wanted, a short movie so they can fit more screenings in. A mediocre movie (albeit with great effects shots)
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The fifth movie is the most unninspiring and "Feels like Spiderman3" os the good HP movies (that is, all of them except the first two).
The movie has none of the "Tim Burton's and Guilhermo Del Toro's child" feel of the third or the keep-going fun of the fourth. I don't know if this is Yates fault, could be the writers, or the editor... But i thought the fifth movie lacked so much.
It didn't feel quite right... In the end, i felt like so much was missing, and not storywise. It didn't worked like that with 3 and 4. The effects were great? It's always fun to see Ralph Fiennes doing anything on Screen? Dumbledore Battle ok? All great. But why did the death of Sirius Black have the emotional impact of a pizza delivery?
It made me feel bad to know he would direct the sixth, the movie where... Someone important dies, and even more outrageous person kills. Will it feel like a footnote again?
Guilhermo del Toro should do the secenth. Already know John Williams will be back, awesome. Give the series a great ending please... -
kid who plays him... more screwed than even Mark Hammill after star wars.
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So far, the only movie I've really enjoyed was GOBLET OF FIRE. Ironically I'd tried to read the book, and found it so boring (who cares about the Quidditch World Cup?) I had to stop; but for that very reason I didn't know what was going to happen in the movie, and so was engrossed.
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That's who I was hoping for.
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and get Peter Jackson.. The 7th book reads like a LOTR epic.. he could trim it up and turn it into 2 2.5 hour action movies.. There is a difinitive break in the book to split the movie. A very Empire Strikes Back pause.. Other than that, someone who can direct dark, sorrow and pain like Fincher or Spielberg... These movies need a master with vision, not an up and comer like Nichols or Yates. Mind you I really liked the 5th movie.
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Anyway, I wanted Cuaron again.
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Anyway, I wanted Cuaron again.
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The series needs a different director to help it go out with a fresh punch. Just my 2 cents...
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That might have something to do with it. And I can get behind that, because it's a theme they've worked very hard to maintain throughout the production of all seven films, but didn't stick to it so much with the directors. Also, as much as JK is involved, maybe she doesn't want the tone/vibe/feeling/look, etc. to change for the last three films. Books 5-7 do make up their own little trilogy within the series. As far as making 8 films goes, great! I love HP films, so I'm down. But good lord why didn't they make book five two films as well? They cut so much character development, particularly the side characters, out of that film that it‘s inexcusable. I think it may be the shortest, when it could have (possibly should have) been the longest. I mean, come on! Nine films would have been perfect. But I guess that's why I work a 9 to 5 and they run studios (dummies). Oh well, in the end none of this really matters because the last two films will make 1.5 billion (each, and minimum) worldwide if a blind gopher directs them.
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Or at least Bruce Broughton.
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Feb 20, 2008 10:00:29 PM CST
I don't like it. Guaranteed a good film but probably not a great
by kevred
The same director for three films in a row? Three books with such different tones? I don't care for it, myself.I think his style worked well for OOTP. It turned a flabby book into a tight, lean, edgy piece. It was also good for that pivotal "Harry grows up" story.But I was looking forward to moving away from that very modern-realistic-England vibe back into something different, and by that I mean *someone* different. I would've preferred a more gothic/macabre director for HBP--del Toro would've been great for that. And DH simply needs to be epic. OOTP was nice, but not epic in any way, shape, or form.So it looks like, at the end of the day, what they're going for is simply good adaptations of these stories. They're not really ambitious enough to want *great films* that can stand alone and even exceed the books in some ways. That would've been nice to see. This news doesn't in any way suggest they're going for it.I'll see them, I'll enjoy them, but it'll probably just be "what could have been."Now, Yates, prove me wrong!
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Feb 20, 2008 10:06:12 PM CST
OotP was balanced (and felt less sliced-up than Goblet) for one
by sarumanthechef
After having read LOTR several times over the years before the films, and having been spoiler-heavy on the Star Wars films, I made a conscious decision to try experiencing Harry Potter the unconventional, films-first way. Insane, I know.
Goblet of Fire was a film where I could easily tell tons was cut out, and it didn't feel right. It felt off.
Order of the Phoenix was opposite; despite actually cutting way more, it didn't -feel- that way to me and the other 5 people on Earth who hadn't read the book. Extremely well-paced, nice and brisk, and it rocked. From this perspective, Yates did the near impossible in making OOTP a well-paced and cohesive film despite the gargantuan text.
In fact, OOTP owned so much I couldn't withstand it any longer and ended up reading the last two books just to know where the story went. Didn't feel like I was 'missing anything' information-wise, which is a nod to the quality of the films, OOTP included.
Yates is good, and will be perfect for translating the reaallly slow/action-less Half-Blood Prince and the acton-overload Deathly Hallows films to the screen; that feel for pacing will be crucial with the next two, and they'd suffer noticeably without it. -
See above, baby
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Although it's difficult to believe that every literate person on the planet has NOT read the books (I kid, of course), I can still understand what you're saying. And thanks to JK they were able to get everything that NEEDED to be in the fifth film in it. But, unfortunately, what they cut from the fifth film is INFINITELY more interesting and important to the relationships that make the books/films work than what was cut from the fourth film. Again, they got little bits and pieces of most everything, and in some cases (considering how much was cut) what they did get in is pretty spectacular. Like the thestrals, which understandably needed to be explained and used, or cut. But in previous films, I personally feel, it was larger pieces like that which were cut for the sake of including some of the more nuanced character development plot points. Too much of that, again - in my mind, was cut from the fifth film. So much of the actual OOTP story is just not there. As a film viewing audience, HP fans have grown so accustomed to new characters popping up that you don’t even question that Tonks has 2 minutes of screen time and no character back story or exposition to speak of. And some of it would just be really simple 30-60 scenes in film time. Many of them on sets already used in the film. But again, I don't run a studio, so what do I know?
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Bring Cuaron back for that! If you've read the books, these movies are just... so... tired.
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OOTP was by far the weakest film in the series...but that was primarily due the fact that the book itself is the weakest link in an otherwise spotless saga. There's not much of a plot there, and Rowling overcompensated with a huge amount of superfluous details (just look at the size of the damn book). So I think the movie's lack of oomph does not derive from Yates.
However, HBP ties Goblet and Hallows as the best book in the series. Yates has a ton of pure drama to work with, and it would take a lot to fuck it up. If even comes off as underwhelming, I'll scream bloody murder for someone else to helm Deathly Hallows.
BTW, Goblet of Fire was the best film BY FAR. While a lot was cut out, what was left was a wholly satisfying experience bolstered by the great character development brought to the table by Mike Newell. Shame he went off to do the lame Love in the Time of Cholera... -
Upon reviewing OoTP in detail of recent, it's clear that OoTP really suffers from some flaws. Not as glaring as GoF's but it certainly shows that while it succeeds in some things, it also FAILS MISERABLY in other aspects. Shoddy editing, Blue filter abuse (x100). I love OoTP for acknowledging the history of the previous films thus making it more of a franchise film than anything else, however in it's making it a franchise film it feels gimmicky. It's a one hit wonder. Of course we will have to see how well he does with Half Blood Prince.
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I like his work.
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I might not have the most credibility of anyone posting here, because I got to Page 52 of Sorcerer's Stone, and put it down and never picked it up again. I'm not a Harry Potter reader. But I've seen each of the five movies on opening weekend, and both my roommate and I distinctly remember leaving the theatre thinking "that was the best one of the bunch." I felt more unconditionally good about OOTP than any of the ones that came before...and still do.
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not Yates please!
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But the writing wasn't. Not Yates' fault.
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As one who has read and enjoyed the books and dig the movies, I would say that OOTP was the best of the series, just ahead of POA. I think that the love for POA comes mostly from the fact that it showed how hackneyed the first two movies were while actually letting the characters take center stage rather than the world. OOTP one-upped this by frankly getting providing characterizations (read: Hermione actually talking rather than screaming) while enhancing the magical feel of the setting. The visuals in the wizard fight at the end were fabulous and unique, yet didn't take you out of the story...and the magic in the movie was dense and interesting to watch, even when treated as casually as the characters would treat it. IMHO OOTP was the one movie to finally get most things right, and I liked it without any reservations.
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he's good with actors but does not know how to direct action or handle an epic story such as this.
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It's over folks; we know what happened in the end and it sort of fizzled. Yates is a good director. Goblet was shit beyond bored belief. Del Toro has better things to do. At least Yates understand Britishness, which is key to directing Potter. Columbus did it like an American, which is to say he depicted royal Engerland, as usual.
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Has anyone noticed that Emma Watson is very Hairy. Her arms are hairy, she has a fuzzy face and little wisps of hair above her lip. Not only that but she's got hair follicles on her back. Too much hormones from hanging around Hans Gruber, I say!
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Cuaron has such a great feel for the magic of cinema, he made POA feel like a classic fairytale. Amazing achievement. Newell was the first to make Hogwarts recognizable as a *school*. His was also a brilliantly paced film, with proper thrills in the dragon sequence, and proper laughs in the Yule Ball sequence. I liked Yates, but he didn't have Cuaron's flair or Newell's skill. (Newell, by the way, is the most underrated on this site, but when I saw GOF in a packed cinema it stormed the house.)
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So there.
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The only good part about this is that it is not Chris Columbus, but three movies from Yates just SUCKS! It should have been Cauron.
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The only good part about this is that it is not Chris Columbus, but three movies from Yates just SUCKS! It should have been Cauron.
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The director of the first Harry Potter film I was "meh" about is directing the last two. Proof that my prediction that we'll see a HP remake in the next twenty years will come true.
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the music in Order of the Phoenix was the worst of the series by far. Now that Yates is in for the final film, I expect the suckage to continue.
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Feb 21, 2008 9:02:23 AM CST
ALFONSO MOTHERFUCKING CUARON for the DEATHLY MOTHERFUCKING HALLO
by vesuvio
FUCK YATES (loved your work in OotP man)
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1 decent movie out of 5, owed more to Cuaron's filmmaking ability than the source.
Fuck Rowling, fuck the Cult Of Potter, fuck anyone who says otherwise.
Thank gods that this shit will be over relatively soon. -
Azkaban - Cuaron. GOF - Newell. Order of Phoenix - Cuaron. Half Blood Prince - Newell. Deathly Hallows - Del Toro (?). For a while this was a fun parlour game, a bit like who is going to do the next Bond but more fun than that. Shame it's over. Please bring back John Williams.
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And one of the better movies in the series. Yates had the cojones to actually adapt the work, and it worked. My personal preference would be for Cuaron, but Yates won't fuck up the last ones.
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David Fincher.
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...any people aside from 10 year olds that watch Potter movies at the theater any more?
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old news dudes. and ootp is not the weakest book. chamber is.
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I was one of the few who found Order of the Phoenix only semi-interesting. I liked the visuals at the end but the whole film felt a tad slow til the end (where it was suddenly very rushed). While certainly better than the first two, it falls short of Azkaban and even a bit below Goblet. He'll be fine but I'm not ecstatic about the news.
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after having cut out so many important parts in earlier films. There are payoffs in the 7th book that NEED the earlier plot points, and those points have been ignored or swept aside (or rearranged) in the films to such a degree that I think the last film will be a mess.
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Not any moreso than Lord of the Rings, anyway, except I don't recall anyone in Middle Earth saying "Not my daughter, you bitch!" -- And the body count in Deathly Hallows is much higher than any kid's book would generally allow. The first book was a "for all ages" sort of thing, but I think they ceased being safe for children (small ones, anyway) around the fourth novel. If you don't like to read, then just say so. Acting like you're "above" Harry Potter is just a lie, because if the greatest adult authors of our age can call J.K. Rowling a master of her are, and refer to the books as "classics" and being among their favorites, I hardly think a peon like you can claim to be better than they are.
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not her "are" -- You know what I mean.
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Feb 21, 2008 4:29:29 PM CST
I don't really mind this except that The Giver will be postponed
by freakemovie
I'd love to see a Giver movie; it was my favorite book as a kid. As for Yates and Potter, this is what I expected. Not terrible news. I actually thought Order of the Phoenix would've benefited from an extra 10-15 minutes, but he's said in interviews that the tone for Half-Blood Prince will be a complete 180 from Phoenix, which has me intrigued. I just reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally hope they don't split Deathly Hallows in two. Atrocious, atrocious idea.
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Deathly Hallows felt more padded out than any of the other books. I wanted to rap my knuckles on J.K. Rowlings head and remind her that there was no law forcing her to stretch the events out over the span of an entire year if she hadn't actually thought up enough plot to cover that period of time. How many chapters of "Harry fretted, still unsure what to do next" do we really need?
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Feb 21, 2008 6:53:13 PM CST
Lois Lowry book to be made into a movie: Number the Stars.
by creasybear
More on-topic, Order of the Phoenix was very well done, but I was also hoping for Cuaron.
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And Lord of the Rings is 'above' it by far. Rowling is the George Lucas of the fantasy film, it makes money because kids love it, and its for kids...give me a break, Potter carries a magic wand, even when he grows up, a magic wand, give me a break...ok for kids, but can't take that stuff seriously...the thing about Lewis and Tolkien is their stories are closer to myth, and have the depth of myth, not just shallow fantasy for children with a modern social agenda
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Harry Popper and Hermione's Deathly Swallows
I'd Buy That for a Dollar!
Seriously...make ONE movie...make it good...find a way to make the insufferable hundred page "camp out" 15 minutes max. -
I agree.
True..they will never act again...then again they don't have to. By their own admission they are rolling deep...the Watson chick has even admitted she never has to work again..and still has a few more paydays coming due to this half-assed, if entertaining, story.
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