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More WOLVERINE Casting News! This Time It’s Gambit!
Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here.
I’ve been e-mailed about this one for the last few hours, and I have to say... I’m very interested in what this film could be, and I have my fingers crossed that we’ll see the best version of it. Gavin Hood’s a filmmaker I have high hopes for, and I’m certainly on-record about how much I like Jackman in this role so far.
Gambit... well, Gambit’s sort of like Venom for me. The character marked the turning point in comics at a moment where I got out of collecting for a while. I’ve never liked Gambit, but I know how much he means to a huge chunk of fandom, and I acknowledge that they should probably get their Gambit at some point. It’s interesting casting, too, and for anyone who’s seen the TV version of FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS, I’d say this is promising...
Hey Harry,
I don't know if you guys have got wind of this yet but thought you might want to know:
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that moves I'll be fine. that's what made the guy so much fun to watch. and well...the accent..you know.
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al ajillo.
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then Jean Claude Van Damme would have made a good Gambit. Martial arts moves, and a decent accent. He actually played a cajun character once. I forget the name of the movie, but it was actually one of his better ones. It was the one where Lance Henricksen was charging guys to hunt homeless people in New Orleans. The runners got a chance for $25,000. It was pretty decent. I think it was called Hard Luck or something like that. I'm too lazy to hit imdb right now.
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Gambit is as Gambit does.Yeah, that's all I got. Hope the film isn't too dense with bad guys. Using X-Men to spin-off more one-on-one stories seems like a great launching pad for a variety of mutant superheroes. But immediately going for a Batman formula of two-baddies against the one goodguy = 'meh', in my book. Sipderman 3? Anyone?
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Why not? It couldn't be any worse that Kevin Smith in Live Free or Die Hard.
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would be the right man for the right job
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I didn't collect X-Men long, because I was blowing too much on comics, but I loved the whole thieves guild vs. assassins guild story arc involving Gambit. I hope you are aware that it isn't the cards that explode, but they're just his delivery method of choice.
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is how agile he is. Sawyer can throw down to be sure, but I don't know if he's got the martial arts choreography in him.
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just you wait and see, harry is losing weight and he's gonna go through an exterme makeover and make all you fuckers regret the day you messed with the main man
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You're thinking of John Woo's Hard Target, right? That movie's awesome! Especially Arnold Vosloo. "Randal, next time I cut me a steak."
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At least there's a talented filmmaker making this.
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oh come on guys and gals. this is shaping up to me another Bat-cameo-fest ala Batman (Mr. Freeze, Poison Ivy, Bane, Floronic Man, Batgirl) and now it'll be Deadpool, Gambit, Sabretooth, Silver Fox, Blob, and Stryker. I wanted to see a Wolverine movie that could pay homage to the 1982 limited series. Too many cameos will distract from the main character and his plot. Give us characters that can support the origins we really enjoyed! Give us Silver Samurai or Mariko Yashida or Sunfire (tell me seeing Logan get torched by Sunfire and then regenerate would not be coooool.) If you guys want gambit, chop up episodes of Friday Night Lights and add your own bad cajun dialect. The movie is beginning to BORE ME!
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He looks like gambit, alright, but they better not drop the fucking accent which has been a sad habit of the x-men films. They lead us to believe that either only americans turn into mutants, or only Americans' stories matter. Do they really think people would have walked out of the theater if Colossus had a Russian accent?
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made it great - John Woo. And Creepy Thin Man, I don't know if it will translater into live action or not. It sounded like you just have a distaste for Gambit in general.
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You'll only watch this if it's R rated? The comic books, and cartoons are PG-PG13 at most. What the fuck do you mean ?
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When they explained Yul Brynner's Hungarian accent by saying he was Cajun? That was amusing. Has very little to do with Gambit, but still...
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and that makes me sad! there really is no one more perfect for this role. though to be honest, im not even sure i want to see this movie.... Gambit is as big a personality as Wolverine, so having him in a wolverine movie automatically means they're not going to use him as well as he could be used on a more level playing field.
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Surely "Sawyer" from Lost would be the perfect Gambit?
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We must have posted that almost at the same time!!
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The problem is, when exactly is this movie taking place? I mean, Wolverine had that adamantium put in him WAY before Gambit was even swimming around in his father's nutsack and the whole first movie SHOULD be based on Wolverine's history BEFORE all the x-men stuff. I mean there is sooo much to cover... Weapon X, WW2, Japan, Alpha Flight etc...Hell you could Make two prequels just on that, then you could re watch the x-men Movies (which are basically wolvie movies anyways) and make a wolvie movie post x-men to have the "Wolvie trilogy"
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I miss the '90s-era animated series, once free with your purchase of two Neapolitan pizzas at Pizza Hut. Pizza and hot Rogue? Hell yeah.
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then you Can have Gambit
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I always liked the Sawyer from Lost idea. But, in truth, even though I grew up with the late 80's to mid 90's X-Men Gambit never really grew on me, he was just too much like Longshot, who I didn't really like either.
My only question is: if this movie is set back in the 70's/80's won;t that mean that that'll throw out the ability to use a correctly aged Gambit in any further X films years from now, or does he not age the way the rest of us do? Okay, that's two questions, but you get my drift. I have also seen renewed rumblings on other sites that point to Ryan Reynolds being back in this as a Deadpool cameo, that fucking rocks by the way. But it just needs to be a little cameo, maybe pass by him once strapped to a table have him say something glib and then have Wolvie pass by him strapped to the same table later during his escape only now his face is utterly fucked up and he expands on previous statement. Funny as hell and the fanboys would totally get it and you don't have another large character to anchor into a story that is getting pretty dense already. The trick would be keeping Reynolds as Deadpool for later, I'm not a huge Deadpool fan either, but you stick Reynolds in there as the guy and I would pay to see that. -
Reading X-Men when I was growing up in NJ, I thought people in Louisiana actually talked like Gambit, with the broken half English/half French dialect. Now that I've lived in LA for 6 years, I can tell you it's not even remotely true. Please do your research, movie people, so you don't alienate an entire state of fans.
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Speaking of the animated series, I always got a laugh out of how careful they were to show you that no one actually got hurt. Sure the tank explodes, but only after you see everyone jump out and run to safety. Which of course presents a conundrum when your star has razor claws and a bad temper. That's what made sentinels a treat...Wolvie could actually attack them.
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I don't mind the character although he was never a favourite, but he has nothing to do with Wolverine's past.
I wonder if this means there will be scenes set in the present? Because if Gambit appears during the flashbacks to the early to mid 80s then he'd be in his 40s by the time Wolverine joins the X Men in the early 00s.
I'm assuming most of these mutant cameos (such as Deadpool etc) will be part of the Weapon X team Stryker is assembling or mutants on the list that Sabretooth is killing off. I remember there was meant to be a scene with Creed killing Beak from the first version of the script.
I suppose a young gambit could be among the mutants Sabretooth tries to kill. Maybe Wolverine intervenes. Le Beau would have to survive if he's signed a three-picture deal. -
He sort of reminds me of Josh Holloway a little bit.
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As someone who comes from a Cajun background on my maternal grandmothers side and I see the cousins down there every few years... uh, last I checked they were Americans. They just have a little different cultural roots, but last I checked.... uh yeah
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I've just remembered something. Gambit may not have any link to Wolverine's past. But he does have a link to someone else from Wolverine...Sabretooth.
Gambit and Sabretooth go back a long way in the comics and were also in the Marauders together. I wonder if Gambit will be some sort of an associate of Victor Creed who flips to the good guys mid movie? -
That nose would make him a stud.
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I remember back in the day that he was the dream option to play the role....
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Warwick Davis
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Cajun Man! Re-ject-SHAWN! Hu-mil-i-a-SHAWN! Mas-turb-a-SHAWN!
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So it Should be Guillame de Canet?
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When did that happen?
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Van Damme could NOT do a cajun accent. And that movie referenced where he played a cajun was absolutely atrocious. I actually remember laughing out loud in the theater when he retreated to that farm in the swamp, walked out on the porch, and looked up at the mountain capped with snow in the background. Louisiana's highest point is 535 feet above sea level, is covered in forest and is in the far northern part of the state. Maybe you have to live in Louisiana to have the believability of that film blown for you in that moment. Or maybe you've already realized you're sitting in a Van Damme movie.
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FAILURE
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I swear to god, get one original bone in your worthless shriveled body and make your own login name. By ripping off MINE you make me look like an ass all day long plus I keep thinking someone hacked mine. You're a fucking tool box. Die in a fire.
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But a damn nice bit of casting if it ends up being true.
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Van Damme got that clunking knot on his forehead and why it will not go away. Every time I see the guy (which is usually for 2 seconds as I flip channels; register that, "oh shit, its Van Damme," and then turn it) that damn knot distracts me.
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I could go on and on about how much I hate Gambit, but I'm too outnumbered here. But I know the character enough to hate this casting. As for the movie, they had me at Wolverine solo movie, Gavin Hood, and Liev Shcrieber. They've lost me w/ every single announcement since. I so fear they're making all the same decisions that went into X3, throwing little bones to the fanboys along w/ a piece of crap movie. Hey, there's Jamie Maddrox, Hey there's Moira, Hey there's Arclight, Hey what a horrible story to cap off this franchise. Who knows, maybe I'll be proven wrong. I remember thinking Batman Begins looked retarded. . .
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Fucking revert the rights back to Marvel already.
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At least on that photo.
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Gambit don't like da hate on da internets.
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RIGGINS!!!!!!!! For anyone that hasn't seen Friday Night Lights, this guy knows how to play the hilariously smart ass flirt. He is the most entertaining character on the show. This is a solid bit of casting.
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but that doesn't make me less happy. I watched X-Men 1-3 pitifully closely hoping Gambit had a background cameo or something.
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Van Damme is still the only man I want to see playing Gambit.
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Feb 19, 2008 8:54:56 AM CST
Is Wolverine Still Making An Appearance ...
by fathermcgruderkicksassforthelord
... in the Wolverine movie?
Or will he just be in the background, like Where's Waldo & His Adamantium Claws? -
I think he's slated to appear in the third act for about 15 seconds and contactually so because you know they have to justify Jackman's paycheck and all.
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so I can't judge. Ever since I saw The Count of Monte Cristo I thought Guy Pearce would make a solid Gambit. He's probably too old for what they were going for though.
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Gambit and Venom: two highly popular characters that I couldn't give two craps about. At least he's better than Longshot!
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But I guess they're looking for a teen-age type to fit in with the rest of the cast.
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Like Porky Pig.
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The man can just nail the part of 7 foot tall psycho killer, I'm tell ya.
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WTF? I love FNL. Riggins is one of my favorites. But if i was a betting man i would say that kid could only play riggins. the idea of him having a cajun accent... anyway, Sawyer from lost would have been perfect. by making him smaller and younger it feels like they are going the cyclops route from the original movie. whatever.
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It's not me... It's Wolfman_Nards. If you don't see the space than you're reading the comments of the jack ass who is playing some fucking game. Anyways... this movie could be good. There. I've said it.
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Vincent Ventresca was born to be Gambit. Look at the hair man!
http://imaniacs.org/vince/darien8.jpg
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Ok, I know, tired ass joke
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I like Reynolds for Deadpool but this model guy for Gambit isn't that good an actor
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I'm pretty sure he's already been cast as one of Gambit's playing cards.
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Doesn't matter who they cast, they're going to tap the re-animated corpse of chef Justin Wilson to do voice-over.
"Thass dat Blob, de fat man, I gehr-oooon-TEE!" -
The reason they always said they kept Gambit out of X-Men was because they mixed his character up with Wolverine, so Wolverine became more of a ladies man.
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He would have given the role some Cajun authenticity, but he's too old for it now.
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No, he's not 21 years old, but he is a shoe-in for this role, and would kick serious ass. Fuck this bullshit teenage casting. Cassel is Gambit!
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Take a close look at the silhouette in the background of the USA TODAY pic. I'm suspecting that's Japanesse architecture.http://tinyurl.com/yw4gv7
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How does six years in LA familiarize you with Louisiana accents?
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Sawyer was born to play Gambit
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The character is an interesting anti-hero type with an incredibly cool mutant power. I always thought he was a fan favorite but whatever.
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Feb 19, 2008 10:27:14 AM CST
This is the guy who throws bicycle cards at bad guys, right?
by arcadiands
A superpower I never really thought was cool. "The First National Bank is being robbed! Somebody help us!"
"Dont worry, miss. I got a deck of cards on me. I'll show them a game of 52 pickup that will make them tremble in fear." -
Just kidding. But in many of the recent depictions of X-23 in the comics, it's obvious she's been modeled after a young Avril.
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Heard that was something Ratner wanted to do. For that alone, he should be trapped in a room with Rosie 'O after she has been on Blassy's 30 day Oat Bran Prune Juice challenge/
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how about Jason Biggs as Bishops.
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What does gambit ave to do with the origin of wolverine? Or maybe this movie is taking a different approach.
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makes no sense
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What does Gambit have to do with Woverine.. makes no sense. Maybe this movie is taking a different approach?
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this tool will probably do it for 10 bucks and a candy bar.make a mental note, studios...not EVERYONE on a well-reviewed TV show is necessarily a good actor...
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Who says the supporting cast has to be humans? You ever read the comics? Mutants everywhere. Even in Wolverine comics.
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Feb 19, 2008 11:32:17 AM CST
so it's set in the 70s...so gambit is in his 50/60s by x-men tim
by lex romero
Hhmm this seems awkward if they ever get around to making an x4. Though with the amount of other mutants they seem to be putting in wolverine it's starting to feel like another xmen film! And tbh wolverine took up so much screen time the x-men films pretty much were a wolverine film, plus mutant sidekicks.
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Jeesh.
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Feb 19, 2008 11:42:32 AM CST
Actually Lex, the movie takes place over years not just the 70s.
by mike_d
so think 80s time.
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especially next to Jackman. Gambit needs to be a skinny but ripped dude. I say this kid looks the part.
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is genius.
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whateves.
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Josh Halloway doesn't want to play Gambit, he already turned it down when they wanted to cast him for X-Men 3. Taylor looks the part. He's no skinny wimp; they don't call him Big Tim Riggins on FNL for nothing, he's 6' and muscular.
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I guess I look kinda dumb now. I'll go sit in the corner and play quitely.
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i think Gambit, though a flashy mtv kind of persona, can be a cool character in the hands of a gifted director like Hood.
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Josh Holloway would be perfect, though I always thought Gambit was kind of a silly character
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Why am I Mr. Pink!?
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He was offered the role in X3 and turned it down for being too similar to Sawyer. And with their treatment of Rogue, what would be the point in bringing him in? Unless they were gonna pair him up with Berry. Ugh.
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i attended the NHL all star game this year and kitsch was one of the "celebrity" hosts of the skills competition. he has the personality of chopped liver. i know that might not have much to do with his performance here, but i swear i think he might be one of the blandest young "talents" ever to grace either screen.
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Man, I used to pay attention to your comments. After what you said about Gambit not being American, I will ignore all future postings. It's like you're a different person, man.
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...is the kind of guy who'll beat the shit out of you and fuck your girlfriend, but you'll still end up liking him.
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Feb 19, 2008 12:23:17 PM CST
Gambit's kinda fallen out of favor since he's a sorta bad guy ag
by mrmysteryguest
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I just don't really like the kid as an actor on FNL all that much. but it's partly that I thought his character was the thinnest.
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Holloway would have been a fine choice for gambit but I also think he would be great as the lead in a metal gear movie.
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if he grew his hair out a little. he's perfectly skinny/buff, can do the sly smile thing, and is great with accents.
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This is the Marvel movie universe, or one of them, and in this one it's perfectly OK for Wolverine to have some connection to Remy in the past.
So in this dimension, Gambit is an ugly, small-faced jocky-looking guy.
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mutant overload mutant overload....x2 was amazing and the only superhero movie that has done something with that big of a scope right...pleasee quantity is not quality.. I want to see all these characters but It's difficult to have my cake and eat it to... i'm excited/scared ...the castings have been great though
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It just sounded like you were kinda calling Scudd out and we southerners are protective of our adopted Yankees. Like pets. Their little accents are so cute you just wanat to pinch 'em. Just kidding Scudd.
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"That Josh Holloway is the 'cant act to save his life' type of actor."
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The accent and check pinching thing is just an inside joke, my wife is from Boston and her family say that about my accent. And I know I'll get called out in a posting later by someone with no sense of humor if I don't explain now.
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There has never been a successful cajun accent in the history of modern cinema. Never. They need to adhere to a "less is more" philosophy, or the performance will be a joke. Remember, the character himself was created by people who had no idea what a real acadian would talk like, making him a stereotype already. You already have to suspend disbelief during a superhero movie, do you really want to listen to a "Dennis Quaid in Everybody's All-American or Wilford Brimley in Hard Target" performance by a guy wearing purple and black body armor while wearing a leather trenchcoat? For two hours?
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In recent X-Men comics, Gambit ends up with the X-Men's enemies the Marauders, who've kidnapped a mutant baby. It's a long story, but Gambit's got a long history with the Marauders, going all the way back to 1984 and the Mutant Massacre. All X-fans will know all about this.
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Ha! (Unless you're a wizard.)
One solution: Rob Schneider reprises his role from "The Waterboy", in leather trenchcoat, purple and black body armor, black headband, purple contacts, with a glowing deck of cards. Constant references to swamps, alligators, and french bon mots. Box Office Gold. -
...then let me tell you, this is good casting. I have a feeling 10 years from now people will look back on FNL and say "Damn, a lot of big actors came out of that show." Hopefully they start casting the guy that plays Matt Saresen (sp) and Minka Kelly.
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oh well
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I know accents are strange especially Cajun, the overall New Orleans sounds oddly like a Brooklyn accent, Cajun is a muted amalgam of Justin Williams or whatever the old chef's name was and New Orleans mixed with what’s left of the old southern accent which with folks from my generation now sounds almost mid western after being diluted by all the sounds of people that have moved here now, I laugh when I see real southerners act like Reece Witherspoon and Holly Hunter and seeing them speak "normally" for most roles but when they're cast as southerners they are made or asked to speak the way we sounded three or four generations ago. I guess the same is true of people like Mark Wahlberg when he's asked to lay on an especially heavy South Boston accent. Matthew McConaughey is one of the few southern guys out there who just says screw it this is how I sound and goes with it. And when its too difficult to take the time to get it right Hollywood just goes with a steroetype.
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I just finished a Friday Night Lights marathon a few days ago, and Taylor Kitsch is the perfect Gambit. He looks the part, sounds the part (yeah, I know a Texas accent isn't the same as a Cajun accent, but he'll get there), and is young enough to grow into the role but not too young to be lame. He's also got the really hot/ladies man thing down. I'm pretty sure he turned me a little bit gay. (For the record, Josh Holloway would've been pretty sweet but honestly he always struck me as too lanky and slightly too old.)
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Feb 19, 2008 1:33:05 PM CST
Never loved Gambit either. Great powerful, jerk character
by george newman
I always found him to be obnoxious. Not my type of guy, and writers never could never find a way to depict him consistently. ANd I'm not talking about the good/bad dynamic. I'm talking about is he a stupid bayou hick, or a brilliant, mysteriously educated man. That's where the thief aspect comes into play, i guess, but writers like CLAREMONT just couldnt get it right.
A while back when Claremont came back to do X-MEN, he made Gambit leader of one of the teams. And he got them out of really sticky situations, usually employing an cunning intellect that surely wasn't his. It's inconsistent, but i dont think I'd like the guy either way. -
You nailed it. I can't add much to what you posted. I am a 36-year-old New Orleanian and people who aren't great at placing my accent usually think I'm from New York, until they see my name...which is very French. And I can't imitate a cajun accent to save my life, seeing as I don't know too many cajun people. If Louisianans can't do it, how can you expect some guy from Cali to do it right?
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for the way people think of Gambit's vocal style, he was the writer of X-Men during the early years of the character. He always had a habbit of really hamming up accents like Nightcrawler's German, Rogue's Mississippi/Southern, and Colossus' Russian. It was just a comic/fast way to let the reader know quick and dirty where everyone was from in a few quick lines of dialogue. Saddly it became a comic staple.
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Could be responsile for Gambit not aging thru the years, if they ever wanted to bring Gambit into todays Xmen movie.
But Im with the guy who said the thing about the 616 Marvel universe.
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Feb 19, 2008 1:48:37 PM CST
Too many crossovers and badguys? Call the WAAAHmbulance!
by immortal_fish
Have any of you ever actually read an X-Men comic? Hell, the Batman Begins adaptation, which so many here laud as the greatest comic adaptation ever (personally, I dissent) features not one, not two, but THREE villains.Enough with the cries of "too many (insert plural pronoun here)!" It can and has already been done to your satisfaction.
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of screen time.
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Riggins will be very good in this role.
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CHARGE DE CARD THROW DE CARD MON AMI!!! Get fucked, you bastard. I am so glad he's not a major part of the X-Men anymore. He ruined Rogue. And he'll likely ruin this film.
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at least zombie ain't directing
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The more characters they add, the more it seems like Wolverine will end up as a cameo in his own film. This sounds like it's becoming the start of a second X-Men trilogy.
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Personally its not the amount of characters, its the rather dubious ties to a Wolverine movie.
Sabertooth and Stryker are a given, especially Victor Creed. He's the closest thing to an arch-nemesis Wolvie has. A villain that's all his, not based on him being an X-Men.
Deadpool I can see, given the Weapon X program and the fact (unless its been retconned) that his healing factor came from something extracted from Wolverine.
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Lame ass sabertooth from one, with no previous connection to Logan...
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are stereotypes. at least the ones that are supposed to have some sort of ethnic background. LeBeau, as cajun as you could get. Wagner, very very German. And Rasputin. If we ever get a Cuban x-man his last name will be Castro. wait, what was Skin's real name...
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back when i started writing it, before i got distracted. my bad.
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Am not concerned because summer of '07 proved Hollywood could toss out Spiderman v Shrek v Pirates and all three did just fine.
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Not Los Angeles. Sorry if I wasn't clear. Louisiana just seems to be one of those states that can't escape 100-year old stereotypes in Hollywood films.
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but the difference between Batman Begins and X3 was that those villains each played a role within the confines of the story. Falcone was an underworld boss who's complicity Ra's Al Ghul needed to effectively mixed the drug shipments into, and Scarecrow was a greed focused facilitator who's placement at Arkham and its geographic placement and isolation over the narrows allowed for the correct place to distribute the chemicals into the water supply unnoticed Basically he was killing Gotham with its own corruption and greed.
In X3 did we really need Mystique, Pyro, Juggernaut, Callisto, Multiple Man, Lawnmower Man, Waterhose Man, Flea, Lizard Man, Phat, Psylocke,
Arclight, Kid Omega, Glob Herman, Omega Mutie.... and Magneto. Now laugh, but that list came off of IMDB, and every single one of those characters got screen time in a 90-minute movie. You can't compare Batman's 3 to the last X-Men's dozen plus named and screen timed baddies and say that 3 was too much. It was just a way better movie. Too many faces and names and tie-ins always equals Rattner-like cluster F#@$. I think Wolverine will be good, but there really doesn't need to be that many characters chewing scenery at one time, fanboys be damned.
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Especially givent hat it's in the cannon of the bland (X1) to awful (X3) X-Men film with an actor who had almost completely lost sight of the character by the last part of the franchise. Not to mention the insane amount of random characters showing up for seemingly no reason. I guess it's just impossible to disappoint some people.
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would be perfect casting. fuck this teen bullshit. why cant a mutant be a grown up? and what the fuck would gambit be doing in wolverine's origin story? or deadpool for that matter....
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I'm just glad we're finally getting Gambit on the big screen. That dude looks sort of like him so I'm satisfied so far, but we'll have to wait and see how he pulls it off.
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Sorry, but if you are going to introduce a whole bunch of new mutants, why not just do X-Men 4, or better yet, just do "X-Men Return" and pretend 3 never happened just like Superman did. We already spent half of X-Men 2 learning about Wolverine's past, and frankly, I've seen enough "Origin" superhero movies in the past decade, that I just want someone with a brain to make a movie about someone harnessing their already-understood powers and just having a fun movie. Enough "Wow, I think I'm special" movies already. They are clearly the easiest movies to write because everyone is doing it. Show me a good sequel that builds on the original (i.e. X-Men 2) and then I'm impressed.
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Lot's of opinions about a movie that has not even been made.
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Stryker, good. Creed, the real Creed very good, Silver Fox yep need her. Deadpool, not needed, but he would have been there. Couple Hundred disposable guards to be brutally mauled in Wolverine’s escape, go for it. Dozens of other mutants.... really?
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A few years ago Marvel had so many mutant characters they had to literally decimate the mutant population by coming up with a crap story about how 90% were de-powered. If the comic company has decades to expand on these characters and even they go; "oh shit, this cast is too big!" One would think that Fox would get that and step back a bit. It'd help their production budgets to do a go action based character peice instead of going nuts trying to show 800 mutants a movie. I don't think most fans would mind either after seeing the toxic waste dump that was Last Stand.
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That scene in the forest where he battles(and kills) several of Magneto's mutants was the closest anybody has gotten to showing Wolvie really busting heads like he does in the comics. Singer came close with X2 when the soldiers attacked the mansion but even those scenes seemed subdued. I don't have a problem with the cameos personally, since they most likely will be just that but I'd love to see a bloodier, nastier version of Wolverine. The real bummer is that Jackman has the chops to deliver a fully realized Wolvie, he just needs a studio with some balls and a director with some vision to make it happen.
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Feb 19, 2008 2:57:39 PM CST
Anybody calling for Van Damme isn't a fan of anything.
by pops freshemeyer
Unless you're calling for Cletus Van Damme.
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kinda like Rogue saying "ya'll" when talking to one person.
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I'd just love to see a movie that shows wolvie's dark side. In the comics you must remember this was a man that volunteered to be turned into a killer who was THAT guy. Who was the guy who's animal rage manifested because this indomitable sense of honor clashed so violently with what he was and what he was doing. If they can show me that Wolverine, that Logan, not so much of this James Howlett new wolvie stuff, I'll be a really happy fan boy. I want to see a movie that explains the deconstruction of a human and how they pull themselves back together and recreate their persona from a blank slate. Asking too much from a comic movie?
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I didn't get into X-Men until the Jim Lee X-Men of the 90's. Most of the NEW characters (Bishop, Cable, etc) sucked....but Gambit seemed like the diamond in the rough. Plus he's got a damn cool (if gimmicky) power.From what I hear this Wolverine movie jumps around alot in time....hoping they don't fuck this up like x3. Is there consensus yet...that movie was garbage. Hey, I'm fair...so was Spidey 3 AND Superman Returns.
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...are you goin by the cartoon voice? That was a terrible cajun dialect. My first time in New Orleans I was dissapointed that not EVERYONE says "mon amie" at the end of every sentence.
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People always think we say y'all to everybody, but it’s a colloquialism, an improper/ informal conjugation for "you all" in plural. In GA we only say it when we are talking to more than one person. Its like my wife's bunch saying "you guys". "What do y'all want for diner?" "Where did y'all go on vacation this summer?"
It usually aimed family units, usually with a question. Sorry I teach English and History... I'll shut up now.
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..'cos yeah, Drew, we keep track of that sort of stuff. Bet Gavin Hood's thrilled as well that the co-writer of 'Pro-Life' has "high hopes" for him.
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Feb 19, 2008 4:16:43 PM CST
Can you please just tell us the information instead of giving us
by wintocha67
I'm so tired of your website. If it's not some preposterously obscure reference to some comic book from the 70's, it's dead links.
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Thanks for the laugh. Let's not forget the AICN tv show.
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The only way this will be any good is if these characters are barely in it...or as flashbacks. Have to agree with the comment about doing the limited series from '82. That makes the most sense, but that's why we won't see it...oh, well. Warp factor suck Mr. Sulu...
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FOX isn't going to do an x4 cause it's now to costly for them. They are going to use Wolverine and just throw some more mutants into the mix, while gutting the entire xteam. Wolverine does not need a horde of thrown in that shou;dv'e been in the xmen films. Why would Gambit even be in the wolverine movie? i can agree that wolverine needs to be maller scale and yes he can deal with mutants who were always knwn to have a past connection with him, but gambit? I get guys like Sabretooth, silverfox, and some others, but throwing in mutants like Gambit, Blob, and not out the realm of possibilty mutants like Emma Frost and the hellfire club, Mr Sinister, Apcalypse, Havok, Polaris and who ever else is just ridicuals cause they were never known to be in Wolverine's past.So Fox is going to rewrite history to the characters again. Do they ever ever learn? Me thinks not.
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Stryker. Danny Huston is a good choce, I believe. He was brilliant in The Proposition and a great Marlowe in 30 Days Of Night.
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Why don't they throw as many characters as possible so they don't have to worry about character development? Gambit doesn't fit in a Wolverine movie. While they're at it, why not throw Black Panther and Ant-man in so they can plug those forthcoming movies.
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I do feel he doesn't need to be in a stand alone Wolverine film. why have him but no rogue? That has always been part of the character in the comics. Gambit and rogue was the only thing that made Gambit somewhat interesting to me. i never found him to be a standalone intersting character. Gambit's popualrity has been his connecting to the Xteam and specifically rogue. What's his point in a Wolverine movie. i would ranther see mutants that are more interesting and popular then Gambit put in wolverine and who could actually serve a purpose. Fox always prove to be out of step and understand the concept of the Xuniverse. For god's sake they did an incomplete Phoenix story for starters, but to make matters worse they didn't even have psyclops as part of the story. They don't get it.
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..just like the Venom fan kids were happy last year. See? It all comes together
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No CGI needed.
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It should have been Lucas Black!
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Wolverine's at a concert with Dazzler in the background. She helps him capture some baddies or something. That would be dope.
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He'd effect a good creole accent and he'd be a good foil for Jackman's Wolverine...or are they even looking for that after fucking it up with Cyclops?
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In other words, fanboy bullshit that was never going to happen. I just don't get it when people say that Holloway would be perfect for Gambit. He's too old, too beefy, too white trashy. Gambit is young and slick and Cajun. And people keep repeating this rumor that he was offered the role for X3, but as far as I know, Gambit was never in the script, it was just wishful thinking. If anyone has evidence that the offer was ever actually made, I'd like to see it. I've never seen FNL, but when I googled this new guy, he certainly has the look and the body down, and most things that I've heard about the show involve kudos for the acting. The look and style is the hardest part to cast (I originally liked the rumor that Jonathan Rhys-Meyers was under consideration), but I think they got it. I'm very curious how all these characters fit together. The only one I'm concerned about is Blob. They already did that visual joke for X3, which was sort of a Blob reference (combined with that one X-Force character who could change his weight). And the Blob feels like much more Silver Age X-Men. Like if they ever did that X-Men reboot with the original group (Cyke, Jean, Beast, Iceman, Angel), he'd be a good villain candidate. Otherwise, he's a bit silly for this supposed gritty raw 90s Wolverine. Sabretooth, Deadpool and Gambit can fit in that world easily. Blob? Not so much.
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That doesn't mean I'll watch this. Fox really murdered this franchise and to me, it wasn't even that great to begin with. I remember being optimistic after watching the improvements of the second one that it will get better. Then the third one turned it all into shit. That ridiculous Juggernaut with the leather fetish alone was enough for me to steer clear of it in the theaters. Why did they put an out there magical character into something they claim was supposed to be more "realistic". It's proof that realism is an excuse to do all the things that in fact make the least sense and people continue to buy it.
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Sabretooth didn't have a character and he had nothing to do with Wolverine except maybe that they fought at the end. So now because that was a huge mistake to give Magneto the only background to the X-men or making him one of the few casted evil mutants who can act they have to go back on the lame premise and say he suddenly has history with Wolverine. It's about the same thing with fish face Mystique. She should of had a history with Rogue that could of easily been written into the first movie. She was the one after all that tricked Rogue into leaving the X-men. BUT no. We can't have that. It would take screen time away from things like Oscar award winning Halle berry delivering great lines like her toad and lightning speech. Kind of think of it, the majority of the X-men had no history. There was so much that could of been used but the focus was too much on Wolverine to do so. WOLVERINE and some other mutants.
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just not in supporting main character/main villain roles like Venom and Sandman. They were more like long cameos rather than supporting roles.
I hope the Blob part is more like the first fight with Sabretooth in X1 in the snow. It'll be cool to have Wolvie fight a known villain as a ramp up to his fight with Victor Creed. -
I'd still rather have Josh Holloway or a much younger Val Kilmer (think Tombstone).
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and the studios are making this movie, a spinoff of a shitty S&M series? All of these will be ripe for mst3k in a few years, actually they already are. I pray for more guilds to strike!!!!!
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Now the Black Eyed Peas guy is in it? That strikes me as incredibly lame. I just hope it's a very small part.
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I grew up ga-ga for Gambit. He was my favorite superhero AND X-Man growing up. While I could see him fitting into a Wolvie storyline (he was sort of the only other X-Man (male) that gained Logan's respect, and Gambit did make a number of cameos in Wolvie's solo series as a partner in crime (remember when they went to Japan?)), I would have rather held him off to reboot the X-Men series. He could have been the perfect new lead as we've had our share of Wolvie and everyone else is dead. I hope he's kind of on the fence the entire movie until the end, not siding with good or bad, just looking out for himself, thieving when necessary. I think it would be really cool if in his first appearance in the film, Remy and Logan fought, then Remy got away, only to come back and help Logan later. He probably won't have that big of a role, but that's how I would have put him in an X-Men movie.
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I can't think of any. But I guess "Will.i.am." couldn't let his bandmate "Taboo" get all the glory in the next Street Fighter flick.
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He could have been great in an X-Men 4 as the student who finally gave Logan his match. They could have butted heads constantly, helping Logan to grow into a "teacher" while having to deal with a flashy, cocky, yet talented pupil. Would have been an interesting relationship...hope that's how they pull it off in this one. Also, I have to admit, I really wanted to play Gambit. Been training physically a lot, would just have to grow my hair out. I've got da accent down an' every-ting, no?
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...still banging John Mayer?
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When they've done dramatic roles have all been good actors. 99.9& of the posturing rappers do is acting anyway... they've had YEARS of practicing convincing people that they're something they're really not.
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Pardon my fumble-fingers... :P
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Seriously.
A hero who flings cards, wears a trench coat, and has fingerless gloves?
That was cool in 1991. Now it's just stupid.
Might as well give him a mullet and some big guns and a cigar.
If you like Gambit the odds are pretty high that you probably think bands like AC/DC, Quiet Riot, and Poison "totally rawk, dude!"
And you probably own a du-rag with skulls on it. Douche. -
I'm just curious, because I am a big Gambit fan, and sort-of an AC/DC fan, who do you like? Both as a superhero character or band? If you say anything like "The Killers, The Strokes, any Emo band, Linkin Park, Godsmack", or anything like that, we'll find out who the real douche is. I like Gambit because he is a complicated character with an interesting back story and fills a void in the lack of comedy, charm, fun, and relationships in the X-Men franchise.
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I do think Quiet Riot and Poison totally suck, as do most other cock rock bands. (Except of course, for Skid Row)
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I don't know about this casting for Gambit... I'd prefer someone just a little darker. Gambit always had a dark charm about him that was really cool.
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can he fly?
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He's incredibly popular. Some people just like to bitch. I can get people complaining about other characters but Gambit is cool man. And he flings powered up cards.
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Sawyer from Lost should be Gambit. They wouldn't even need to change his look much! He's perfect!
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Holloway or Thomas Jane would be better than Jackman.
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Deadpool is the product of the Canadian government's paramilitary Weapon X program, although his place of birth is unknown. After Weapon X cured his terminal cancer by implementing a regenerative "healing factor" extracted from Wolverine, Deadpool is left disfigured and mentally unstable
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i totally agree: i hope with all these characters & casting that wolverine doesn't get the spider-man 3 treatment. Hood is great, lets hope he can wrangle in this ensemble.
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He knew I was talking about him even though he was busy combing his mullet and checking out his Chinese pictograph tattoo that says "dog breath"
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http://www.zap2it.com/movies/news/zap-kreukkleinduncanstreetfightercasting,0,2042692.story
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but the same with the cartoon. no one in New Orleans talks like that. Even cajuns dont sound like that.
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why do they have the need to stick other xmen in WOLVERINEs movie!!?? Theres no need to clutter the movie up with xmen characters they couldnt fit into the other movies,Ive heard of 5 or 6 now-hopefully these are just other mutants that wolverine will meet along the way and not a huge part of the story...and if not, take in the lesson from spiderman 3!!
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I dunno, I always saw Vincent Cassel as Gambit - he would've been perfect. Plus the bloke they've chosen is kinda funny looking.
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'Cause I think THAT is cool news.
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JoBlo.com reporting that Josh Holloway was offered but turned it down because the character was too close to the Sawyer persona.
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He's got the glare and could get the build. Plus it will work like 300 did financially, appealing to both genders. Dudes will go to see the excessive bloodshed and graphic evisceration of various denisons from Greek mythology, and the chicks will see it just to watch the Lost dude run around in a loin cloth. Movie would make a some bucks.
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but I don't know who he is. Since Josh didn't want it, I have no problem with it. The only other person I had thought of was McConaughey.
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... as another Weapon-X operative according to joblo.com. It would be ironic if Wolverine, who took up all the screentime in X-Men films gets shafted in a Wolverine film.
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because unless you want to repeatedly punch him in the throat, josh holloway is not your man for the job. perhaps i am in a female minority here, but sawyer makes me want to take a bath, and not in the sexy-times way.
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... then you already have a pretty good idea of who Gambit is.
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well, then maybe he WOULD have been right! i dunno, i'd rather just see wolverine run around for 2 hours beating people up than messing around with all these other x-men types. again, i may be in a female minority here.
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His trademark costume for the past 15 plus years has been a pink breastplate under a leather trenchcoat and big ass metal kneepads.`So`hes actually more awesome than you knew.
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Feb 19, 2008 9:37:40 PM CST
OMG THEY CAN'T MAKE A MOVIE THAT HASN'T BEEN A COMIC STORY!!!111
by donnyunitas
TAHT WILL RUUUIN IT! perhaps the reasons they're doing it their own way is because the comic stores are too vast and, yet, lacking in depth. I'll be there opening day. I can't wait to see what they do with it.
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Am I the only person in the world who actually wants to see that?
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Sawyer as gambit? Inspired. Well this guy better be horny and cool.
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it's not the staff to the headpiece of ra, is it? that would be a nice tie-in.
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you mean, essentially, his staff is a cattle prod? that's quite a superpower. *condescending sniff*
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who the fuck is Gambit?
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I cannot fucking wait for this. They put every mutatant they could think of in X3, but not the best. Of course, what would you expect from the Rattman? Can't wait to see some exploding cards!
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Couldn't they get someone more fitting to the role of Gambit, like Andy Dick??
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he'd just as soon fuck rogue as he would help fight crime (or whatever it was that the x-men fought...)
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Gambit can be seen with the Marauders recently in the "Messiah Complex" story that just crossed over in the X-books. I'm a little behind on the story, so I don't know how it ends yet.
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I would lick my own balls. thank you.
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Feb 20, 2008 12:09:13 AM CST
I dont hate Gambit, but I really can't comprehend why hes a favo
by blindambition238
He sort of like the male version of Psylocke: they're both basically there to sex up the scenery on the team and add some faux 'attitude' with their neato visuals, but pretty much are dispensable to the core X-men mythos are barely 2 dimensional in characterizations. I think he's been uninvolved in most of the X-Men's best stories save for the Mutant Massacre and has been unable to move past being anything more than Rogue's boyfriend when they do try to use him.
When hes not with her hes either moaning about her, or trying to get her back, which makes him seem more whipped than a player. The biggest risk they took with him was turning him into Apocalypse's main horseman, but even then he was just doing it to protect Rogue. Then immediately after in Messiah Complex he became a traitor working for Sinister, but shock horror, it later turned out he was just trying to fulfill a prophecy that would save Rogue's life. Ok, I'm ranting now so I'll just give Gambit fans the benefit of a doubt that he can rock and ask them to recommend any stories that I may have missed that could enlighten me. -
Movie-tize THAT bitches!
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You've ruined this thread already.
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I quote: "MORIARTY WOULD BE HARRY KNOWLES BITHC". I don't get it. Maybe it's me.Do you know this guy GabrielGray? AFAIR, he likes to wank or something. Anyway, prepare to be banned from this board soon.
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type in caps? I don't get it...
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been had?
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Thanks.
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man thats sum fucked up shiznit! why would someone do this? I doubt there'd be some nutritional value in it, plus the diseased part afterward, you'd probably need to go to the doctor.
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we can't ban him, that line is too good.
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He's going to ask Logan where he gets his luscious lumps from....
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From what I remember from the Weapon X comics, published in '91, Logan was selected because of his physical abilities, stamina etc. It was only when they pumped him full of adamantium that they discovered he was a mutant. This series, which was about 4 issues, may not be cannon. That's the story I want to see, not Wolvie & friends (Creed & Deadpool excluded as they are part of the weapon X program).
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Hey Harry, and other monitors, block out the poser, and keep the original we've all come to know and love.
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Bishop played by Wesley Snipes. Now how about Mr. Echo (because I know I'll spell the actor's real name wrong)
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UM DA JOGUNAWWT BIITCH.
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Honestly, I've always thought Val Kilmer could've been an awesome Gambit. That said, he may be a little old nowadays. So with that in mind, the guy who SHOULD HAVE BEEN CAST is Josh Holloway.....you know him as 'Sawyer' on ABC's 'Lost'
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Problem! This is set 15 years before X-Men 1. Gambit will be about forty years old in X-Men time line. Hope Rogue likes older men.
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Iceman needs to hit the gym.
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...PRE-Adamantium, WWII-era, B&W (lots of black blood), directed by Jim Jarmusch. Cameo or major part by Nick Fury. Timy cameo (maybe only a mention in conversation) of Cap. NO LIEFIELD ERA CHARACTERS. I would sell a kidney to see that movie...
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He pulls off the mystery man/outsider thing for real as opposed to the Wolverine fake "mystery man" thing when you've been reading about him for years. I think that Wolvie fans hated that the new kid on the block was a real loose cannon on the team so Wolvie kind of lost his status a bit. Gambit's powers, background, the way he dressed, just about everything was different. He was very interesting at the introduction. Now if one wants to go by the caricature of the trench coat wearing, French speaking asshole, then Wolverine is probably in less interesting as the fake Canadian, "Nothing can kill me! I heal fast!", "I'm a mystery man!", "Lemme claw stuff!" shit for the past 30 years. Wolverine is not my favorite character at all, but I think there is a potential movie there. Besides, you could argue that X1 - X3 was about Wolverine anyway. Also, there are so many X -Men characters that haven't been used, it would be nice to see them even for a little in a Wolverine movie.
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Feb 20, 2008 1:08:54 PM CST
harry has chosen fidel's creepy brother larry, heres why..
by ironic_name
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neither one of them ever speak so I'm not sure how this vote makes a difference.
oh that's right - communist dictatorships dont have elections - they have transfers of power. -
I like Wolverine. I like Jackman, I like Jackman as Wolverine. Yet nothing about this movie interests me, and every new thing I hear about it makes it seem duller and more pointless. It seems like a confused hodge-podge of actual Wolverine backstory, elements of the film version, and lots of random, pointless marketing muck.Gambit's never interested me--it seems like such a tired, dated character.Hope I'm wrong, but I just don't have a good feeling about it. It's got a vibe like a Blade sequel or Daredevil. Eh.
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Art Adams rocks. Gambit, and Jim Lee, are second-rate pretenders.I just realized what Gambit reminds me of--Van Damme in Hard Target. Trenchcoat-wearing cajun with bad hair. But that was a lot more fun than Gambit, Wilford Brimley and all.
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YOS DAG SAWSUP
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Bit late are we?
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we are in
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Orcus has to lie low.....
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Forgot the damn S
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