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NBC's KNIGHT RIDER Pilot Arrives!! Is It The Next BATTLESTAR GALACTICA Or The Next BIONIC WOMAN??
I am – Hercules!!
TV critic Mo Ryan of the Chicago Tribune writes:
NBC has said that the network is not sending out advance copies of the [“Knight Rider” TV-movie]. So you know what that means: It's probably awesome!
Mind you, NBC had no problem sending out screeners for the pilots of “20 Good Years,” “E-Ring,” “Three Wishes,” “Inconceivable” and “Bionic Woman.”
More good news. “Knight” writer David Andron, whose sole prior writing credit appears to be the seventh episode of NBC’s “Raines,” tells Entertainment Weekly that he wrote the 2-hour “Knight” teleplay in 12 days. (That’s nine days longer than it took Stallone to write “Rocky,” which won the best-picture Oscar!)
Tonight’s the “Knight” directed by Steve Shill, who earlier directed episodes of two other recent TV re-imaginings: the 2003 version of “Dragnet” and the 2005 version of “Night Stalker.”
It’s safe to say far more viewers will be tuning in to “Rider” than to tonight’s superb installment of “The Wire,” which airs at the same time on HBO.
9 p.m. Sunday. NBC.
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Guaranteed.
I can't believe this even got greenlit. Are we that desperate for nostalgia? -
Although I am not sure it's anything to be proud of to be pants-shitting drunk and hanging out on AICN.
Whatever, at least my typing is still holding up! -
I hate first posters
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Didn't they start thing thing just a couple months ago? Jeezus, Hollywood should run the damn country. Maybe something would get done. Albeit, not with much originality, but what the hell, right?
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I'll watch it tonight, oh wait. I probably won't because I'm taking my girl out to dinner and in all possibility I will most likely get laid and not even think twice about it.
But to stay on point, the Mustang is a shitty car. Not sleek like the old Trans Am, it looks more like a tank than anything, in otherwords, not cool. I swear they should have went with that image that a fan made of that awesome foreign car, I forgot what it was called but it was 100 times cooler than a fuckin' Ford Mustang. Piece of shit. -
In fact they make Bionic Woman look good. All hope does seem lost.
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also, the war in Iraq is going great, and Lost just keeps getting better!
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This show is trying to stay true to the original, which had, comedy, action, babes, and a really kool car! I think TV needs this right now, and more like it. Really looking forward to the return of KITT!
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once nbc realises it has the emperor has no clothes maybe just maybe they'll realise what a fricking gem they have in the guise of journeyman
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Choosing that shitty looking car because Ford paid them instead of picking something as a suitable descendent of KITT was their first mistake. If they get a series out of this they need to dump that fucking horrid car ASAP.
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i felt that way about the original KR.
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Except not so much.
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...does it mean the show will be full of amateurish camera work, 9/11 references, religious mumbo-jumbo and war movie cliches?
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Hopefully it was assembled on the same line as my Ford. That means the engine light will be on for no reason all the time, the interior will be cheap and flimsy and popping out of random spots, and the traction in the snow will be for absolute shit. Oh, and it will cost as much as a Honda but you won't get pesky features like resale value, good gas mileage or quality.
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'Touch my'?" Bonus points for the tv show and episode title where that came from. :)
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but this knight rider wont be.
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I'm not saying that only douchebags drive Mustangs but being a douchebag means you are a lot more likely to drive a Mustang.That being said, this looks to be horrible.
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Xiphos, I have a bad feeling that NBC began organizing a meeting for a re-vamped BJ and the Bear within five minutes of reading your post.
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How many times does this concept need to fail before even the neanderfuck executives at NBC realize that it's time to stick a fork in it? Knight Rider ('82), Knight Rider 2000 ('91), Knight Rider 2010 ('94), Team Knight Rider ('97) and now Knight Rider ('08) which I'm sure will have such a fresh take that it'll reinvent the entire Science Fiction genre.
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Well, maybe. I'll admit I'm slightly curious to watch this inevitable trainwreck. And there better be a great cameo with The Hoff. I do hate the new car too. Is there anyone would doesn't still think the old car was supercool Should have gone for a full-on Galactica -kind of remake, starting from the beginning. Potentially, the show could have been remade into something awesome, but this is likely to suck ass.
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cos Knight Rider is AWESOME!
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Just sit tight Journeyman fans (and Friday Night Fans for that matter) soon NBC will be recycling their 90's idea (I'm hoping for an Out of This World Update) and they will eventully get around to resurrecting the show in two decades or so.
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They did not send out advance copies because the movie won't be DONE until Friday. Steve Shill has directed outstanding episodes of Rome, The Sopranos, The West Wing and the Wire - so I'm tuning in!
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as Peter Parker/Spidey in that 'groovy' 70s tv version of Spidey. Why is this not on DVD? The funky score for the show was 'solid'.
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not a hard choice to make.
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I believe the car you were talking about was a Koenigsegg CCX. Awesome car but apparently a twitchy bastard to drive.
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It's difficult to do a 'serious' reimagining of knight rider, but i'm not sure the cheesy version is gonna work in modern day terms either. Anyway, the clips i saw of it looked pretty cheap.
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and Bionic Woman wasn't that bad!
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then they lost Will Arnet as the voice of KIT. That was the show's only draw. "KIT! I need help!" "You don't have to shout, Michael, I'm all around you."
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if it's shit, i'll check out the ball-less Dexter and see how bad that got fucked up.
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43 years of unbridled quality and restraint. Maybe in twenty years we'll be blessed with his movie version of this Knight Rider re-make. Can't wait, such a fan...
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I was just a kid, and was still insulted by this POS.Will the remake be Slightly Less stupid, or an Equally Stupid Re-Fake?
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I may watch this..it's set to record on my DVR..so if not tonight..then some other night when I'm alone and no one can see into my living room windows...You cannot deny the cheezy/cool factor of the original..we all loved it because we were stupid kids..and we love it now because it makes us feel like stupid kids again..but this remake will probably be awful... I use ellipsis way too often...
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I believe it's from the "Sprockets" sketch in SNL? Where Mike "Dieter" Myers spoke with a hilarious german accent... or was THAT also referencing something else?
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Veronica Mars season 3, "Show Me the Monkey".
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Lots more people get NBC than get HBO. Apples and oranges.
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It's just team Knight rider with hasselhoff attached to get a quick paycheck and go buy some alcohol. There's no Knight Rider without a dashing hero in Hasselhoff, not whiny pussy boy from some soap opera probably... and the car looks like something the original kitt would drive circles around, wtf were they thinking choosing that clunkly looking thing.
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As for the excuse that there aren't any TransAms in production anymore, why couldn't they have lobbied Chevy for the new Camaro to be KITT? They certainly went full-tilt and paid through the nose for that car to be in *BayFormers* (which I did like, soon to be on Blu-ray). As for Herc dissin' the failed re-imagining of *Night Stalker*, I liked that show. One of the episodes that never aired was a down-right classic..."What's the Frequency, Kolchak?" Definitely check out the series on DVD through NetFlix...I myself hope Buena Vista will release it on Blu-ray soon because it had excellent visuals and was shot on HD.
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He didn't suit what KITT should sound like. Val Kilmer's voice sounds closer in tone to William Daniels's voice from back-in-the-day. He can do condescending, whereas Arnett's voice sounds like some punk ass teen on Xbox Live trying to modulate their voice into sounding intimidating in response to you informing him on how his mom loves DVDA action.
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That's what I care about!
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I am both shocked and appalled. Wait, no... I'm neither.
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It won't be any Terminator.
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http://tinyurl.com/39hu5r, called Serious Moonlight, a dark comedy with Meg Ryan and Tim Hutton. Man, is her 2008 dance card filling up or what?
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From her blog on Friday, this: "Two Hours Left? Sob: According to sources, one option NBC is considering for Friday Night Lights is to "wrap it up" as a two-hour movie of the week. That's not nearly enough, if you ask me (five more seasons might suffice), but at least it's something. We're also hearing the show has already been looked at by at least a few other networks, but so far, no new home. In the meantime, some of you genius fans got together on the WWK message boards and launched http://www.savefridaynightlights.tv/ to try and save the show. Any and all FNL fans should check it out and get moving!"
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Coming in on the "Supertrain?"
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No really, he does.
Go to his myspace page,
and listen to his god-awful music.
Believe me, I used to like val(batman, heat...comeon!!)..but beginning with the island of dr.moreau,( with the exception of Salton Sea, which kicks major ass)and up untill now-he's a grade z lameass.
Knight rider last one season, is released on dvd, and within 2 years the only thing mentioned of this will be " member how arentt got fucked outta the deal by kilmer...sheesh" -
ironically, he mispells it
only to have arnett spell it correctly. -
They have two GT autos with the KR body crap applied and a Whipple supercharger (Ford Racing badged). They also have two V6s in the same clothes (no S/C). I know Hollywood is a spin machine but damn.
Shelby's own people have even stated that they are not even sure they can get the KRs in to production as planned! -
I give up!!
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Never forget!
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But this show will probably still suck.
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The original was overflowing with cheese and stupidity. It was unrealistic and at times completely absurd- yet, at the same time, I loved it. Granted, I was seven, but, I still loved it. Who knows, maybe a new generation of children will fall in love with a guy in a leather jacket driving a talking car. As sad as I may be for doing so, I'll be watching tonight. Reliving your childhood every once in a while isn't such a bad thing. I still wish that Daniels was the voice of KITT. Regardless, I hope this show surprises me and is at least decent.
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just caught it on canadian tv, and it's about what you'd expect it would be. if you were planning on enjoying it, you'll probably find something to like and if you think you're going to hate it, you probably will. the cast is decent, the script is extremely predicatable, the music is god awful... val kilmer doesn't even get a credit, believe it or not... still not sure how the network expects to go to series with kilmer as KITT, as i can't imagine he'll want to do voice over work for a tv series, but i guess we'll see. the act break cliffhangers are pretty bad, many are very predictable and poorly done. there's this one sequence where the bad guys are closing in on a hotel room and it's really poorly edited and you just know none of the bad guys have the right room anyway. the twists are lame as well... what's that you say? a body double? oh shit! the sheriff's dirty? also, the show's pretty frustrating to watch as well... the acts are like four minutes each before going to commercials. it's infuriating, you feel like you watched literally two scenes before it's back to ads. what's good about the show? ummm... i like the promise of a cool, action show every week, it's just a shame the film takes the full two hours to set that up... there's exactly one super sweet moment in the episode... you'll know it when you see it. all in all, not great, not by a long shot, but if it goes to series, i would likely catch the first episode.
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we stuck a picture somebody printed off the internets of the Hoff and Gary Coleman standing in front of K.I.T.T. with a thumbs-up pose circa 1983. It inspired me so much I took it with me when I left. Now it is taped above my computer.
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That's fucking crazy!
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T-Minus 30minutes until our childhood is raped, yet again! If there is no Knight Automated Roving Robot, and no GOLIATH, then pee pee in their collective cokes!
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The reason why networks don't send out advance copies is because the film or series is a piece of crap.
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Bionic, Knight Rider, Buck Rogers, A Team.
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Anyone else think the guy that just won American Gladiators would make a good Flash?
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Where's the badass opening with the car driving in the desert... guess I was right... oh well
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Worst Knight Rider ever! I will only watch it twice...tonight!
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We saw the car already.
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MtV bullshit.
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Okay, that was pretty kick ass. But I know they went, "Whew! 60 seconds of teleplay I don't have to write!"
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and the music really, really sucks
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Wowza
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Which is more advanced than the previous kitt, who sounded like a human.
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wtf, they pulled a matrix. And matrix pulled a dark city. And now I'm getting bored with this shit.
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The Ford Mustang!!!
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Bring back Blue Thunder, Airwolf, or Viper!
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Yeah, I said it.
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Ugh.
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Geez, why the circa '66 Batman cinematography?
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i can't figure out whether I'm watching the Matrix, Law and Order, or Transformers...
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After the new 'Mike' was in bed with 2 chicks, and then the way cool 'sufer' cop (who is most likely a detective) ends up with a gorgeous blonde in her bed...ok..switch off..
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After they chase KITT, do they plan on picking up Little Jenny from ballet practice?
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are the silver rims. I realize the bling market has to be cornered, but they just stick out and make the car look normal. Black rims and lose the logo. Also, how the hell does a mustang NOT outrun an SUV on tight corners?
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This is truly, truly painful.
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True dat. Let's make this an MST3K-esque event!
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No KARR, No GOLIATH = no watchy
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I know KITT is supposed to be monotone, but where's the sarcastic wit of William Daniels. Maybe they should have gotten a British guy to do it.
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than this.
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...has obviously never met a real lesbian.
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That's the chief question, Red Shirt.
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1. Annoying shots of the dorky badguys. 2. The same joke is repeated too many times (Relax, i'm a good driver.) 3. The music came out of some can. I honestly didn't want to be right but they fucked it and gave us team Knight Rider all over again. i'll give the rest of it a shot but I'm not the least bit optimistic anymore.
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They buggered the theme song and I literally can't hear the dialogue over the horrible nu metal.
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Yeah, its got the same cheesey feel as the original, and if you like that sort of thing (I do), thats a check mark in its plus collumn. However, Kitt is kinda dull, so I've gotta make a mark in the minus collumn.
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OMG! I thought I was the only person in America who made Pink Lady & Jeff jokes! LOL... Truly that was one of the longest, ropiest, partially digested candy corn pinata-style turds to ever hit the airwaves. Right after Sex and the City.
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for the rest of his life.
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...and I feel like my HDTV just shit in my mouth.
The opening was interesting, but the minute it turned into The O.C. I tuned out.
The thing that made the original Knight Rider interesting was the cast of characters feeling like real people. This is like watching an underwear model run around a car show. ZZzzzzzZZZzzzzzZZzzz... I'm as board with this show already as the new KITT sounds. -
And yeah, the canned music sucks and---Oh MY GOD!! MIKE IS DRESSING LIKE A SOLDIER!! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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7000 myspace friends can't be wrong!
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You assholes.
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Got the market cornered with this bad boy, don't we?
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I'm not sure I've ever seen a more pathetic collection of acting, directing, action scenes, FX... this is just bad through and through
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Yes. I would like that very much.
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maybe that was one of the preconditions the Hoff wanted filmed before he agreed to cameo in this turd-o-rama.
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I liked the original as a kid, but this is complete shit.
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Not by much though. Decent production values.
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that show knew it was a knight rider ripoff and didn't give a damn. Loved it.
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Silverman is co-chair of NBC Entertainment. Zucker is Chairman of NBC Universal. Between this and "My Dad is Better than Your Dad" my question is: When did NBC start recruiting its executives from schools for kids with special needs?
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This script written in 12 days? Really??? With this kind of thought-out dialogue, amazing plot and excellent direction, that's just hard to believe. Oh wait. I'm fucking kidding. On the "unfuckingbelievably horrifying" meter, this shit is a level 11.
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Just in case you don't remember, that show sucked, too. So far, I'm feeling the campy vibe. The only problem I have is the nu-metal soundtrack and, of course, the rims and mustang logo.
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Am I wrong, or did they look pretty good, for network tv? I'm not talking great CGI, like "Mr. Floaty Upper-Torso Solider" from frame left of the "This ain't gonna be easy..." shot in the Indy 4 trailer....
But pretty good, huh?
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It's just like his Transporter movies.
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so far anyway. The only problem with these shows is how they get these generic henchmen. They've got to try harder with that stuff.
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The effects arent too bad, in my opinion, but the script is obviously lazy.
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as soon as I saw the clips from...maybe Joblo the other day? I eat so much of this internet shit up that I can't even remember. Those clips sucked balls. Poor KITT. Poor Hoff. Lucky Kilmer! And those poor actors will never get anything again. Poor L.A.
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sound better than the music in the show?
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Shit, what did the writer do after day 3, when he was done? Nine days of spell checking? Maybe he spent 4-5 days for a shiny binder to put it in when he turned the teleplay into NBC, so they would be impressed...
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NBC, go to your room, NOW!
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Feb 17, 2008 8:37:10 PM CST
They finally did it, the first feature length car commercial
by lyghthouse
All I'm seeing instead of an interesting plot and characters who I care about is every different angle possible of KITT driving casually. Too bad we got this piece of shit instead of Glen Larson's movie. Knight Rider is officially dead forever.
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....they just bring back Hoff in the fucking lead? Maybe now they can kill the pussy kid off and bring back Hoff as Michael Knight and get Mr. Feeney back to play k.i.t.t.
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but where is the traffic? So far I do like the options that the new Kitt has.
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ARRRGGH.
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This movie IS awesome!!!!! For me, it just slipped over from "woah, this is bad" to "woah holy shit, this is bad and it's awesome!!!!" The part where she started crying to the sad music just messed up my life. hahahha
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suck.
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My vote for the next great AICN talkback catch phrase.
1. Sexy tomboy beanpole
2. All your base are belong to us
3. ...has a beer and cheets on
4. Has chosen HD-DVD and here's why
5. "Mr. Floaty Upper-Torso Solider"
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Must be.
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True, the original Knight Rider was hardly great, but at least it was sometimes funny and fun to watch. This movie doesn't have an ounce of joy in it.
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This does suck
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I dunno why, but its kinda growing on me...
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Should've kept a techno score.
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Why did KITT have a bottle of Rohypnol in his glove box? Hmmm....
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all the best shows have Hank in them.
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Gimmicky camera "moves" - I might throw my vodka bottle at the TV. No, wait, I want the vodka. Oh, Lord, is this a dumbass show.
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Man she couldn't act her way out of a Walmart commerical.
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It's about a fucking talking car.
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Feb 17, 2008 8:42:15 PM CST
The main baddie is wearing more makeup than Tammy Faye Bakker
by shiftyeyeddog2
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every 4 minutes...
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monkey commercial funny. me not thinky about stinky nite ryder rite now...
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Sigh.
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This show seems to be about the same as the one in the eighties--same feel, same level of acting, and just as dumb and contrived of a plot. To me, that was part of its charm. Yeah, I know, I have a high tolerance for bad tv, but this one seems about as entertaining. I'm kinda getting into it.
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Feb 17, 2008 8:45:15 PM CST
Mister Man, I don't got vodka, but I got Jag...here's to you.
by stereotypical evil archer
Yummy!
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Mike and Kitt together.
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Seriously, it's amateur hour.
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I thought it was cancelled... haven't seen it in years... and don't want to.
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Feb 17, 2008 8:45:46 PM CST
I havent wanted to do a simultaneous Talkback/show-watching in a
by shiftyeyeddog2
But this is TOO much fun to watch. So bad, it's Mystery Science Theater time!
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Every time they show and super close up of the cobra logo on KITT take a drink. Every time someone says something about someone being hot, take another drink. Make sure to have at least 3 full bottles of vodka, you'll need it.
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It's tough, this is awful. That near miss head on collision between the truck and car is one of the worst things I've seen on TV in 2 years. That includes all footage from the John Edwards campaign.
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Bad acting, bad filiming... KITT sounds like he is a voice-over and not actually in the car... this is really bad... I guarantee no series with this crap...
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Way to go NBC!
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Oh no! I'm falling into their demographics!!!!
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damn heading limits
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I wish they pumped more money into this, and made a theatrical movie. I would have gone to see it.
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it was more hobbit-like. But yeah the real problem is that music. What is that shit? Someone cleaning their brush on a guitar?
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Holy cow! This guy makes The Hoff look like an oscar-calibur actor!!
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... but it is only tempting me to trade in my 2005 Mustang for a Pinto. By the way, Justin Bruening's acting hasn't improved since he left "All My Childrem."
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KITT is...put...ting...mee...toooo....sleeeeeeeeeeeeep.
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Can't keep a good mutant down!
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Is he making a cameo at some point? That will keep me watching... I guess... on the NBA All-Star game...
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than the actual theme used in the show! What gives?
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Where's Goliath and Garthe?
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If they showed Hasslehoff in a transam.
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I mean, that's good or all those commercials they aired of that guy talking to Michael about resurrecting the program, clearly alive and well, wouldn't have made ANY sense. Whew!
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He's never heard of Onstar?
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that made that dudes teeth. They're so ultra-sparkly.
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That commercial was completel loltarded.
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Say what you want about "Knight Rider 2000" - I worked on the thing in 91 - but it was ten times better than this.
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Kind of a creepy commercial, if you ask me.
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You know it, beeyotch!
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Is that the shitfest that had KITT floating down the San Antonio riverwalk? Yeah, that was fan-freaking-tastic.
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Knight Rider 2000 still sucked worse than this. Just the thought of that Scotty bit gives me the shivers. I will say this much: KR2000 was better than KR2010.
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I haven't watched broadcast television in over a year, and now I remember why-- Fucking advertisements every ten minutes. What. The. Fuck? I can't believe I actually ever sat through ads to watch a show.
I'm soooo glad I'm doing most of my TV watching in the digital era. Fuck commercials. I'll be purchasing/downloading shows that I want to watch commercial-free.
And on top of it, this show is one big fuckin' Ford commercial, anyway.
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Must've graduated from the Elizabeth Berkeley school of acting.
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Blackriver... Now we know how the writer spent day 7 of the 12 days.
"Hmmm...Blackagua, Blackula...No...I got it..BLACKRIVER!"
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as being the star? She's so much better than that douce bag.
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zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Let's Hassle the Hoff. Now, dammit!
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Or jerked off watching lesbian porn for 11 days, and then pounded out this script right before the fucking deadline?
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somehow this show is responsible
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There is no way I can ever believe this guy as a fighter. My sister could kick this guys ass.
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Pensive look away
"You still don't talk to her?"
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It's more disgusting than watching Hasselhoff eat a cheeseburger.
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You guys will have to keep me updated. :)
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Also, where the hell is the Knight foundation?
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Just as soon as Senator Kelly starts that melting thing. That's always cool.
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Man, I didn't see that one coming. I am gonna blame some Milwaukee's Best, and a night alone with Potzie at Arnold's.
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that Arnold's was creepy with the lights out. I wouldn't want to stay there overnight, even with Potzie.
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By the way, it was one of the top 3 TV movies that year, and we finished the damn thing TWO WEEKS before the air date. Yeah, some of it was lame, but a helluva lot of fun to make. My favorite moment? The floating KITT starts to sink in the River Walk, and the PA's run around screaming "Hasselhoff is gonna drown!!!!" The AD gets on the radio and yells, "SHUT THE FUCK UP, the river's only three feet deep." Loved that.
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Agent Johnson? Are all of you guys named Agent Johnson?
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"You've no idea where china is, do you?"True, it warrented only a chuckle, but its been that kinda night...
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You thought Potzie was creepy? Fonzi was the one who wanted you to "sit on it." What do you think he was talking about, his Big Wheel parked in the back by the swingset?
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As to whether or not Micheal Knight shows up driving Knight Industries Two Thousand?
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Shows up driving The Ecto-1, or maybe the Bluesmobile. Damn, he traded that for a microphone. Forget that...
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for a fucking pee brake??? Holy mother of God is this writer jerking us around! It is because of scripts like this that I had absolutely no sympathy for the WGA.
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because you weren't into threesomes. duhhhhh
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the place was creepy, not Potzie.
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Feb 17, 2008 9:10:20 PM CST
What color was KITT after leaving the casino? My brother if frea
by stereotypical evil archer
I don't know why he wants to know. I have the show on but I don't give a shit. Mmmm Jag.
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This Dawson's Creek shit has got to end. If I want that, I will hit the "home" key and visit my "Pacey for Life" page...
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from the original series? You know, the one that always hung out in the trailer?
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I hope they paid you, well - considering that Oscar nom, and all.
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"Are you a...Homosexual?" Oh, GOD MAKE IT STOP!
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KITT asked him if he's gay. Come on, now, that was good at least.
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KITT has suddenly morphed into the Mercury Mistress. Anyone remember that from SNL? Heh heh heh...
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all they do is talk. Why in a show with a bullet proof super car are we listing to a bunch of bitching and whining?
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Too bad it wasn't Airwolf. Jan Michael Vincent GOTTA EAT!
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I guess there always is a silver lining
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Okay, that was a tiny giggle....
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Now if the airbag goes off in his face, our night will be complete.
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he fave squishing on the glass. That was horrible. hahahaha
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Feb 17, 2008 9:14:32 PM CST
WHY AM I WATCHING THIS? Whoa Crying Indian!
by stereotypical evil archer
I just saw the Crying Indian! Love that guy.
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And apparently he has, and now has current work to support his Tail o' The Pup fetish...
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Besides, that model isn't popular among whites.
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A movie about the Mercury Mistress would have been 100 times more interesting.
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Dude!
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KITT I can't fucking take it any more! I mean, I'm no "Mr. Floaty Upper-Torso Solider" but I think this show bites!
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What's next? Airbag in the nuts?
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Gonna avoid THAT movie.
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Is throwing a lot of chips on his floor tonight...
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Don't ask, kids.
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But I'm assuming you are watching The Wire instead. You made the right decision.
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Look what professional Hollywood writers can whip together give the time and effort and WHO AM I FUCKING KIDDING, THIS SHOW MAKES MY BOWELS RELAX!!!
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his fave would have been better though. lol
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from the original series? You know, the brunette that hung out with Devlin in the trailer all the time? She was always modifying Kitt. I wonder if that is who they're saying is Mike's mom?
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*pukes a millisecond after I wrote that*
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It's got a better budget than the original.
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How fucking annoying.
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ppppppppsssshhh!!!! Right.
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It's so crappy. I mean it's so damn bland, full of cliche after cliche, and there's no action. Knight Rider is and always has been primarily an Action show yet this is full of teeny bopper smallville oc shit. I watch now only to see the Hoff. Hoff won't save this but it'll be nice to see him again. i bet his charisma will completely clear everyone else off the screen, these little pussy actors won't even make the slightest impression.
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The MPAA is crapping their drawers, even though this is TV not cinemas!!!
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24 style.
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If they got rid of the music and let us write it. The lead dude isn't so bad and the girl is pretty. I dunno. I think it's still workable.
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Did the chick with the nasty neck mole just pay off frenchie's $90,000 with a throw away line of dialogue?
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24 meets Tangerine Dream circa Risky Business. Agree?
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4 minutes of show. Ten minutes of commerical.
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"Oh Michael, thank god it's you" any bets that I'm right?
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You don't stage "suspense" that way. Commercials kill the suspense. FUCK this director.
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AICN get off your duff. I will moderate that TB for ya.
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Back in the 80's LED's, a nifty Cylon voice, drawn in laser bolts, phaser fire, some bionic "sound effects", and some nifty computer graphics were about all it took to wow us. We overlooked the bad acting and cheese to watch a LED go "swish" back and forth on the front of a car or on some robots head. The wow factor is gone. These shows need to be more intelligent today. BSG was/is, while bionic bimbo and from the 20 minutes I sat through of Knight are not. They're trying to rely eye candy that no longer means anything. Talking car?? Whoop tee doo - my car talks all the time.
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Kitt is basically Chloe. They need a better Jack.
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ratings when they come in tomorrow at around 11AM eastern.
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We all are for investing 2 hours in this dull, sloppy Ford commercial.
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Boy are they streching this one out!
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The Hoff's pimp hand is so strong, it became genetic!
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Don't say the old knight rider was just as bad... fuck I hate when people say that. The old Knight rider had charm and style. This show does not. It's cold and fucking boring. What, is team knight rider just as good as the original too?
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Feb 17, 2008 9:29:10 PM CST
Twelve day teleplay writer has chosen HD-DVD and here's why
by red shirt
So he could force in this backstory...
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So the fucking car can start asking about Mike's relationship, whether he's gay, whine about dropping food on his fucking floorboards, but when there's obviously PEOPLE chasing the MFers, he can't just make the logical leap and fucking say PEOPLE?!?!
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Doesn't the title of the show make no sense with the "clever" play on Night/Knight being the surname of the lead? Crap. Just crap.
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Betcha there is a future love triangle between the lesbian, the OC girl, and Mike.
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Oh damn, KITT started to install VISTA, and the 32 bit version at that. Idiot!
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It takes true dedication to sit through two hours of a show you find disgusting just so you can bitch online the entire time.
I must have missed the bit where the original "Knight Rider" was a groundbreaking drama that revolutionized television instead of the fun and at many times cheesy action show that I was a fan of then as a kid and still dig now.
I seem to remember a Hoff line in the original pilot where he described KITT as "Darth Vader's bathroom."
I can see why you think the humor of this simply can't compare.
My only dissappointment will be if we don't see a turbo boost.
Other than that, you kids need to unclench your assholes.
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Twelve days and all he came up with was an hours worth of driving around the southwest?
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We are just having a good time here, you film school dropout, you! Now, please be more polite next time you ask me if I want to Biggie Size my dinner, okay bucko?
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So he could bang another hottie every week.
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In the Knight Industries Two-Thousand coming to save the day! Who's with me?
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Gods-fammit, those hax0rs.
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Because it would spoil my guess to the denoument of this epic!
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Once again, BAD direction.
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That we were already aware that the original was ASS too, and are having some fun with a completely fucking BLATANT Product Placement Disguised as TV show.
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hahahahahahahahahaha
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More like "Small Wonder."
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Ahem. Sorry. Had to.
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This is fun.
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Here here! The Spaz had to turn away from Lifetime to get on our cases.
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with his inner bad-assness. Also, Hoff isn't going to save the day; he's gonna show up at the funeral.
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Isn't the point of a remake to make it better? Oh well.
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LMAO
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How does he make his appearance? Taking wagers on my guess. If I am wrong, I will buy a full retail copy of Adobe After Effects and personally fix Industrial Plight and Tragic's sloppy CGI in the Indy IV "Mr. Floaty Upper-Torso Solider" shot.
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Ice Age 3. Good one.
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Hoffette getting all the action. Yea Red Shirt, I'm seeing a shiny Trans-Am in the near future.
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at the beginning of the show and NOW we get a genital herpes commercial! Oh, and spaz, I'm far from being a kid and remember when the original series came out. You're right, it was crap, but we can still have fun at its expense, can't we? Go back to your cave, troll.
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Seriously, or reduce his status to fi-core.
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I was kidding. I was on the other channel. I didn't think they'd do that but I tried to enter to win the car and I was wrong. The answer was purple. I had no idea. Good grief.
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Wow, really inside comment from Pennsy! nice touch!
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Just like Dukes.
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It's impressive that the shortbus has NBC for The Spaz to watch on the trip home from the skating rink.
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pull around so I can shoot at him with this machine guns...
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I love it.
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My 2009 Shelby Mustang did not allow me to take a full speed impact from a 2.5 ton SUV. My lawyers will be in touch with you for a settlement in the morning. Signed, naive television viewer.
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$1 to Nick Bakay.
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Did someone goof?
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Hoff is gonna show at the funeral
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Voice of that cat on Sabrina? Bully for him, I say!
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damn him
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Hell, K.A.R.R. with three flat tires would kick this turd's ass.
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No need to shave or comb hair
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If they'd hacked the shit out of this thing and made it an hour, we might've been fooled into thinking it was actually watchable.
Heeeee. I'm just kidding. -
and eats a cheeseburger
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THIS SHOW IS INSANE
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On this talkback. Too bad the people we're watching didn't do the same.
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I agree. Good bye bastard show
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If he says no, this piece cannot go to series! Please change your mind!!!
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On NBC greenlighting a series order for KRINO? I say 2 weeks.
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That is, a wendy's single with bacon and extra shame! Everybody pay up.
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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYA!!
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FUCK FUCK FUCK, WHAT THE HELL? COMMERCIALSS!!! AAAAAWWWWWWWWW
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Just when they were gonna make out too.
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I am afraid that the Ford Focus has muffler herpes. Back off KITT!
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Feb 17, 2008 9:50:40 PM CST
I'd be ashamed to drive around the KITT car after this if I won.
by catvutt
Just sayin'.
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I'm really pulling for this show to get picked up; its the best tv Knight I've had in a while. See what I did? I made a pun. Night...Knight? I swear, I shoulda been in the WGA.
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A product placement ad for Ford. And since when was FAB-1 a Ford, pray tell?
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Shit! Let's see a movie based on that spot!
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Mike must have sprung for an open bar
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KILL EVERY possible scene, you hacks. Destroy all possible emotional impact - this is retarded.
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God I miss MST3000!
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Feb 17, 2008 9:52:29 PM CST
Still, faults and all, this show is better than Farrell's
by moondoggy2u
new basketball-themed POS.
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it was more exciting than anything i saw on screen in the last two hours.
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Has officially moved into Ben Stiller territory. RIP, Will.
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TRACEUR "Dad. Do I call you dad? Or daddy, or do I"
KNIGHT "Look, send me a Hoops and Yoyo e-card, I gotta hit the In-N-Out and make a beer run. Talk to you later, son." -
This is the emmy clip, kiddos!
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THE SHOW FINALLY GOT GOOD AND ALL HE DID WAS TAKE OFF HIS GLASSES... OH GOD YES. GEEKGASM!
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damn, she was a freaky bitch...
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Where have I heard that before?
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To my abdominals and my liver
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smooshed together in some random awfulness.
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wow.. it sucked.
The kid's mom died and there were no emotions at all...
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Damn, like father like son!
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And one day of shooting can make a mortgage payment.
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but one writer with twelve days cannot.
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Sure hope he brings his transam next time.
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I DON'T!
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"I hope so..." If this sucker makes it to series, I can appear as your dad, and as "evil cloned Michael Knight" in the mirror universe episodes. Hoff gotta eat!
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And NO KITT to boot?
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Just flat-out fucking deck his ass, and go hop in the Hoff's Trans Am.
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In less than twelve days he lowered the expectations of of twenty million people.
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Or drive on water! Damn, this is cool!
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Oh well, at least the hoff was in it. Yeah he kinda looked drunk but whatever. This show sucks ass though.
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awesome
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awesome
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"of COURSE youll see the Hoff again!
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Not as witty as "Seacrest. Out." but will do nicely here.
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like a good script.
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That Michael used to drive into.
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"It's been six days since I finished my script. It's so damn cool! It was odd having an exec from Ford sleeping in my top bunk, but he wasn't too handsy and made a damn fine cup of coffee. I've been spending time surfing the view askew message boards, looking for mentions of Knight Rider or me, but none to be found as of yet. My script is the bomb. And, oh wait, maybe I should put the line, "it's the bomb" in my tome somewhere. Maybe when someone sets off an explosion. That would be clever without being hackneyed."
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They'll greenlight ANYTHING.
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We made it through the Superfund-esque toxic waste dump of this show. And remember, kiddies, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.
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See what I did there? Another pun. A play on hastalavista! Sure, its pretty shitty, but its obviously deserving of WGA cred.
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Val Kilmer's been my favorite actor since I was 11. And honestly, he's made me sit through a lot worse than this. I could make it through another episode if one airs.
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His voice is magical.
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"Wow, NBC has been so good to me. I got the page count up to 108 by using their suggestion of making the fonts bigger and spreading out the line spacing a little. Pretty sneaky sis. Wait? Wasn't that a line from an old Connect Four commercial. I should try to put that in there somewhere too, to appear to older folks, you know nostalgu, nostallguia, damn, how do you spell that? I am SO glad NBC doesn't take off for spelling!"
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I started the weekend by seeing Diary of the Dead which was pretty weak than I ended it by just watching Knight Rider. That's makes 2 things that stink and won't stay buried.
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Absolutely wretched. Far worse than Bionic Woman and that show was shit. If they sucked viewers in for decent ratings, they definitely won't come back if it becomes a series. NBC I feel dirty, please bring back Journeyman now. Thanks.
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I rather watch Team Knight Rider than this shit. The old KITT had more action in one episode than the new KITT in this whole telemovie.
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OK, the good stuff...
Well, the theme song in the first 10 minutes kinda made me all squishy inside for those days back in the 80's when the Hass and a Trans Am could save the world...
The Bad:
The acting.....so FUCKING bad. I could go on and on, but shit, soap opera actors the world over acted circles around this craptacular heaping smelly pile of acting.
Product placement: Does EVERYONE in this universe drive a Ford??? From the bad guys to the miscellaneous traffic (Volvo Trucks, Focuses all over PCH, an Edge keeping pace with a Cobra??!!)
Continuity:One scene the bad guys are driving an edge, the next scene it's a GMC Yukon (GMC BADDDD GRRRRRR) and the next they are in an Edge, the guy shooting the vacuum cleaning Roomba with a sub machine gun and the bullet doesn't go into the floor and smash the tile????. The bad guys somehow tracking the scientists daughter to Vegas even though they lost her in Northern Cali somewhere?
The Plot: OK, trouble is afoot...lets take a 3 hour road trip that feels like 2 days, with none of the fun or excitement. I've had root canals that seemed shorter than the whole...'we're driving to save dad from the bad guys lets get to know each other subplot' SO bad
The only way this coulda worked on the level they were going for was to honor the source material and give Hass a bigger part. No one plays cheese better than Hass, and as much as I was hoping for an adult, newer version of this show, at least they coulda taken it up a notch and payed homage to the previous version. It just sucked the way it was.
Wow, this was a big steaming turd. And I haven't even gotten into the fucking stupid Focyus commercials that insulted our intelligence...Hmmm this really shallow cocksman is trying to score...Let me borrow my buddy's Focus instead of impressing her with the coolest car she's ever seen.
This show makes the Bionic Woman seem like Macbeth. And somehow Journeyman, Drive, Prime Time Galactica couldn't get picked up?
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How many dicks can this thing suck. Just endless shots of the car driving around and boring characters with boring arcs and it was all just a big pile of steaming shit. My girlfriend was sitting next to me just muttering 'This is retarded' the entire time. Have to agree.
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Turns car around.
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You pick this shit up and drop journeyman. This is why I stopped watching network TV. (Mostly.)
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15 minutes?
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"Today's the big day! I've loaded up my Kinkos card, and am headed there to print out my script! Should I put it on colored paper? Maybe a paper that looks a little different color if you tilt it to the light a little, you know like my super cool color morphing idea for Knight Rider: The Bad-ass Version. That's my name for it, and although I will have to liquid paper the part after the : (from 108 pages) I will always know it, and if the NBC execs look closely under the liquid paper, they will know it too. Maybe I will leave it as is on say, page 77 (where the brilliant "Don't spill chips" line is), just to see there reaction. There, or their? I never know which is right! It's hard to write sometimes.
I am gonna get the shiniest, shinyest? (sp?) binder that Kinko's has. That will make NBC really know I spent time and effort in my 12 days. Not, just cramming it in the Knight before. Whoops! I meant, night before. Wow, I never stop working, do I? I was still in writing mode just then...
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This movie is a shit full of fuck! I would rather stick my balls in a jar of angry wasps than have this become a series. I know what they can do for one episode. KITT has a rusting problem and needs Hasslehoff cum juice to save the day.
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Red Shirt can be hired for writing purposes. Please get in touch.
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Your comments have amused me so much more than the last 7...sigh...sorry, it was only 2, hours. Somehow knowing you are out there makes the last 2 wasted hours of my life bearable. I wish I had a time machine where I could take you back to write the script...
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This just made my "NO WATCH" list. BTW: The Hoff looked like HE should have been the one in the casket.
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ACTRESSES WANTED for new "Knight Rider" television show. Must have visible moles and limited acting talent. Send headshots to NBC Studios, Fast Track To Oblivion Department, Los Angeles, CA.
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Do we find out tomorrow?
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We need you on the team also
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Thanks! I've lurked on these message boards for years, and finally decided I needed to be part of it! I'll be back...
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...they should put this whole series in the casket and plant it in the ground.
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"Whew! Thank God I was able to get my script green-lit. Yeah, the exec hated it at first, but fortunately I can deep throat while humming the Knight Rider theme. Also, it didnt hurt that we both were able to split a hooker and snort the coke that Hoff loaned me last week. Hollywood, how do I love thee? Let me count the ways!
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Please join us....in the new script, a KITT drunken on cheap 87 octane Nevada desert fuel drunkenly crashes into the writing staff at NBC Burbank.........GO!!!
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I kinda liked it. The sexy bikini, two chicks at the same time, lesbian FBI agent thing kinda seemed like pandering up front, but I wound up getting into it. The end scene in the back of the plane brought back some serious childhood happy vibes. What were you expecting - Citizen Cane in a talking car???
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"Holy shit, my brothers and I have to strike! Well, for the sake of writers everywhere and the integrity and hard work that is ingrained into my craft, I have to strike, too! I wonder if Harlan will be there? Maybe I can give him my Knight Rider Hummer! Hmmm...Knight Rider...Hummer....I've just thought of a new placement ad for my script!"
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who were still standing in a picket line despite the end of the WGA strike. They were pissed there were no more Funyuns in the offices (having been replaced by Sun Chips). Still, one brave writer with the gumption to survive being run over by an intoxicated Ford Shelby Mustang managed to crawl out from the mass of bodies, and...
Take it Red Shirt! -
at this site: http://tinyurl.com/99c6z
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Remember that the Battlestar pilot was pretty bad too. Once they spend more time working out the plot kinks, we'll have a fun show. It won't be The Wire, but it's better than the reality TV crap they keep pumping out.
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After all, the Hoff was in it.
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SciFi could have made it a 'SciFi Original', starting a 1978 VW Bug that drives up into an old schoolbus with the back cut off. The Hoff would still have made an appearance, along with Larry the Cable Guy.
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I just knew they'd fall back on nanotech.
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But worse, it's inoffensive and utterly, utterly generic. As such, it'll probably go five seasons.
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and a computer. Blarg.
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Dude, I respect where you are coming from. I WANTED to like this. I think we all did. But come on, the acting is wooden, the plot was not only laughably dull, it was pandering. If a network wants to bring back a classic show, great! I'm not one of those haters that say no way. I want to see great shows updated. But be honest. Did this show thrill or excite you in any way? If I'd wanted to watch a 2 hour commercial I'd set my alarm for 3 am and watch Ron Popeil shill hair product and rottiseries on Bravo
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I liked it better than Bionic Woman. The ending with the Hoff was classic. And I liked the other ending with the new Michael and the car.
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...should watch "Citizen Kane." LOL
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mentally composing himself for the monumental task of resurecting a 25 years-old franchise, putting everything on the line, his career, his very livlihood, to marshall forth a new era of greatness at NBC. No matter what had happened before, no matter why or how, it was he, our intrepid writer, who would bring back the polish, the shine, to the beloved peacock. He sits in his office. He sits, and he thinks. Within his mind, a whirlwind of creative wheels and cogs spin and whir, a testament to mankind's will, his very genius. "Okay, so Mike is with these two chicks..."
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At least it didn't have any freaky aliens. And I'm surprised they arrested the villain at the end.
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Welcome to the team
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I don't know where to begin with what is wrong with this piece of dreak. Could they get a blander California Surfer Dude type to play Mike? Does anyone buy that this guy was an Army Ranger?
Black Water type mercenaries have already become pretty bad stereotype bad guys already. Couldn't they come up with anything more original?
KITT was nothing special. Why have Val Kilmer as the voice if he brings nothing to the role. Yeah, it is bullet proof and can change colors. Big whoop. I think it might have been a better show if KITT was actually a liscensed psychologist. It seems that listening to people's problems is the only really unique thing this KITT does.
The entire feel of the show feels like a late 90s syndicated action drama. More fluff than grit. Sorry, but in today's day and age we need more substance to our action dramas.
Too many characters that seem to be more like plot devises than actually characters. Just because you make Syndey Poitier's character a lesbian doesn't hide the fact that she is a cookie cutter FBI agent that barely registers as a character.
Also, hows does Mike's roommate all the sudden be part of the team? Did the producers decide at the last minute that they needed a quirky sidekick to add humor to a rather dull show.
No this show didn't rape my childhood. I loved the original Knight Rider as a kid, but realize 20 years later that it was a fairly formulaic show with a lot of cheese. This show just raped two hours of my life because it was just a God-awful show.
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Word.
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OK, so in an effort to not just be a hater and actually put forth ideas that would have made this work....what would we have done differently?
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The should should've had a seventies soundtrack.
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Yeah, I think that about sums up what I would have done differently.
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This just stuck another finger in.
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Who has commented on this thread! Since it doesn't start for another half hour here on the West Coast, I'm grateful that you have all provided me with enough warning to find something else to watch. I am truly sorry for all of you who did endure the last two hours, but I assure you, your sacrifice will not be in vain.
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KITT crashes in NBC Burbank headquarters drunk off cheap homemade corn diesel. "Hi NBC," hiccup. "My name is Doc Holli...uh I mean KITTTT. That stands for the Knight Industries Titty Twister Three Thousand. Ha ha, I'm just kidding." KITT then swerves back and forth over to Mike and says "I'm your huckleberry Mike. I'm horny, beep beep. Get it, horny, ha ha. Let's go get some tail. I saw a Fusion outside."
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So, he has satellite links and thermal imaging, but he couldn't see the old man running through the forest?
I guess that's what you get for 12 days work. Glad these writers are back on the job.
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Leave Knight Rider in the 80's. Cut print thats a wrap.
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I couldnt figure it out from the show so I am glad they told me 40 times in commercials.
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Kristen Bell makes everything better! http://tinyurl.com/ywoxcs You know The Hoff would have been after it!
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actually do something besides listen. Also, I would have started out with Hoff getting his ass handed to him on account of his age, and then, in true cookie-cutter fashion, his son is recruited to rescue him. Basically, instead of using the girl's search for her father as a plot device, I would just use Mike's search.
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The first minute i thought this was horrible, then they start the Knight Rider them music for about 2 seconds and it made me feel 10 years old again, and then it took 5 secs and they changed the music and I was like WTF. I mean its a simple concept. How do you ruin a classic that bad in 2 mins. I am so disapointed.
Sigh
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Recast...rewrite...new car...get Will Arnett back... KILL the original KR 2008 Team....oh yeah, I like the soundtrack idea too Sky
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This is what passes for character development these days.
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Red Shirt gotta sleep. I will be around. To amuse my brethren, to be amused BY my brethren...
If this sucker goes to series, I am gonna get carpal tunnel here, but it will be worth it...
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HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW
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The Ford commercials were terrible and I think a major detriment to the show. If you pull those out I don't think this comes off as nearly as much of a corporate shill-fest. Knght Rider was one of my favorite shows as a kid, but I recently caught some episodes when they were re-broadcast in HD. They were TERRIBLE. My expectations for this were very low. What I just saw was better than those episodes I recently watched. Just about anything falls part when you break it down flaw by flaw. Overall I actually found myself actually enjoying this. Despite the obvious individual flaws the big picture worked for me.
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HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW
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Except they turned the theme song into some hip hop crap.
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has a date in hell.ADateinHELLLLLL.
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How about bad guys with actual motivation. What did they want again? All the fluff was awful. What was the point of Las Vegas? The whole sub plot about Mike owing the thugs money, then mole chick wires 90 grand through Kitt and they explain it in a throw away line of dialogue. She just gave him 90 grand! All the dialogue about Mike and Mole Woman's history was painful. If this (god help us) becomes a series Mike needs to be single and meet new chicks every week like his dad did. Why even make mole woman have a boyfriend if they never show him and she just throws him away for Mike. How did the cheapo Ford keep up with Kitt during the first long chase scene? And the almost crash. Start by adding a few crashes, hpow about having Kitt run over somebody?
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Put Hoff in the Knight Industries CEO chair in place of the deceased Devin, have him kidnapped and ransomed b/c of this Prometheus thingie, FBI gets involved b/c it is a kidnapping, KITT goes to the only two people who MK pre-programmed to seek out in case of said situation: his son and the creator of KITT. They re-tool the TRANS-AM into the newly designed MUSTANG. The daughter can come in later as a BONNIE type who helps her father out. They get MK out, he recruits the son to prevent the abuse of the innocent, the helpless the powerless, and ROLL CREDITS. How are was that?
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Put Hoff in the Knight Industries CEO chair in place of the deceased Devin, have him kidnapped and ransomed b/c of this Prometheus thingie, FBI gets involved b/c it is a kidnapping, KITT goes to the only two people who MK pre-programmed to seek out in case of said situation: his son and the creator of KITT. They re-tool the TRANS-AM into the newly designed MUSTANG. The daughter can come in later as a BONNIE type who helps her father out. They get MK out, he recruits the son to prevent the abuse of the innocent, the helpless the powerless, and ROLL CREDITS. How hard was that?
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Wow. That's a tall order.
Well, first of all you need a driver that has a personality. Writing him as more than a bland stereotypical 20-something would have been a good idea-- And frankly, I think an OLDER driver (late 30s, early 40s) with a name other than "Michael" would have been a good idea. It's as if KITT can only be driven by somone named "Michael" and that's lame.
Seriously-- What happened to action heroes? Why do they all have to be in their mid-20s now?
Next-- No sidekicks. This isn't Superfriends. We don't need to have quirky "teams" of people from different backgrounds. Just one man, one car, and his shadowy bosses who give him instructions via KITT.
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I'm still picturing him in all his dignified glory at the desk, brainstorming about lesbians, menage a' trois, and nu-metal.
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Feb 17, 2008 10:42:49 PM CST
Still Waiting For the Bigfoot and Wildboy Reinvention - coming t
by tcal
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Knight Rider or Transformers?
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AND AFTER THIS...
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I totally agree..When I watched it as a teen it made me all tingly inside but even then I knew I was watching a cheesefest. Somehow Hoff Bellisario et all made it work for my adolecent mind. I've watched em since and I agree, the cheesy soundtrack covers and ridiculous acting make for a troubling visit to nostalgia land, but c'mon. This was just so generic it hurt. Compare this to an episode of Journeyman(compared side by side with a ep of Quantum Leap) and you have to agree this version took very little effort to write, produce, act AND finance (thanks Ford). I just want more from a network show if I am going to devote time to watch it. SOME originality or at least a loving dig on the original
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WAR!
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Remember the X-box bot?
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SPOILER...... I think the absolute worst scene in this crapfest was the hotel scene when Charles and Mikey's mom could have been in one of four rooms and three Black River guys were going into separate doors. You get to see the knob jiggle and go to commercial as a cliffhanger. What is this the 80s again? Anyone with an IQ of 50 knew that it was Mike and not the Black River guys going through the right door.
This plot devise was a cliche back in the times of the original Knight Rider. I can't believe they actually used such a lame cliffhanger to go into commercial and actually play it up as if anyone in the audience didn't know it was Mike on the other side of the door.
That was the point where I was convinced the writers of this dreak was a hack. I went on IMDB and found out the guy also created that lame Jeff Goldblum series - Raines. So I even got validation of his hackdom. -
This is not bad. Try to sit through the new Flash Gordon series. That reaches NEW LEVELS of SUCKITUDE.
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For one episode, Michael's evil twin (can't remember name) will probably find KARR's cpu, stick it in Goliath's body and go after old man Michael. Mike Jr. and the new KITT will have to save him. But then the evil twin disappears by shaving off his goattee and drives off in a 1983 black T-Top that he won on E-bay.
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I mean can anyone imagine someone like JJ Abrams doing this crap. Aren't any writers out there that can write. Its amazing that someone at NBC let them produce this crap. I wonder y NBC is in last place. Put the HOFF IN it. Bad acting , horrible effects, i mean come on a morphing car. Ive seen better graphics on colecovision
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was when the music started out with the familiar knight rider theme, the classic badum...badum badum, badum. And then the nu-metal kicked in!
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you know it's coming...
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If I remember correctly?
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The "son" lived in that cabin, which looks identical to the cabin Hoff lived in, in "2000." Yeah, they filmed it in different places, but they definitely looked similar. Wonder if that was intentional.
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If you checked out the screenwriters for Star Trek, you would realize that this film is doomed. Bob Orci is the same guy responsible for Transformers, The Island, and a bunch of insta TV dreck. Basically, he's your go-to guy for hack scripts.
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Seriously. When will the studios learn? Instead of remaking and reinventing 25-year-old shows, why not do something interesting and MAKE A NEW ONE?
I bet that NBC passed up thousands of better scripts last year in order to bring you this abortion.
Here's the good news, though: The studios have competition these days. YouTube, video podcasts, and downloaded media will eventually become so easy and so common on people's televisions that the studios will have to face up to the fact that there are better writers and filmmakers out there, and that SOME people don't want dumb entertainment all the time. THERE IS AN AUDIENCE FOR INTELLIGENT WRITING!
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His name was Garth...lol. And I totally see an ep in the future whould this get picked up of an old Mike Knight, Garth showdown. I think Hoff would actually make a good addition to this team. Just make it about Mike Sr, Mike Jr, and the car trying to figure out why they are on the run from everyone. The fugitive meets Prison Break meets JQuantum Leap...yep, that about covers all the angles
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Because people watched and Ford paid for it. The good news is that the new episodes will likely be done by competent writers and there will be writing staff available for re-writes.
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I'll buy the Journeyman comment. That was a much better show. I'm not saying this was a great pilot. I'm just saying I enjoyed the ride. I'm not disagreeing with your comments, I'm just saying I enjoyed it. I don't expect much from network TV these days, or even the general audience. I went in expecting garbage and walked away entertained.
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Feb 17, 2008 10:54:15 PM CST
Wow this really sucked. Give me my two hours back please.
by gornpirate
How can you make a show about talking super car so fucking boring? And it was way to much like a soap opera. This show's target audience should be 8 year old boys and their parents watching it with them. It should be fun and simple. No long term relationship issues, no inuendos, no brooding. Just a guy with a cool car capturing bad guys and lots of car chases and fist fights. Hell the fists fight were even bad. The old Lone Ranger reruns had better fist fights than that. The new Michael fights like a girl. Fuck him and Fuck NBC. This show sucks.
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How's that, Xiphos?
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Unfortunately we ALL tuned into this crapfest hoping for the best. So I'm guessing the ratings will be strong. Too bad picking up a pilot isn't based on rebroadcasts. If this was put on a second time I garauntee it would tank from all the bad word of mouth. All us fanboys pretty much make this a no brainer for some suit who isn't in touch with the fan base. Here's hoping he reads this crap we write or we are doomed to a Monday night team up of Bionic Woman/Knight Rider for 08's action Mondays on NBC.
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No. Not really. What a televisual abortion this show was. I bet it gets picked up within 24 hours.
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Say that he dropped out of NASA and he ends up in some weird experiment or wormhole that sends him to the future.
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Good night Furzee and other talkbackers, I'm getting off work and the only thing that kept me entertained all night were your responses to this crapfest of a movie. I haven't posted so much ever when shows I really hated this movie. a skunk would run away from it. Now it's going to sell a shit load of DVD's and become a #1 rated show. FUCK! I hope it doesn't happen. Goodnight to all.
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Fair enough man. I also EXPECTED garbage, but man I was hoping for more. OK, beddy by time. I'm going to dream of a 70 Camaro with a roving red eye in the hood and some good dialog coming from the inboard 8-track player
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Two guys were holding machine guns to his head.
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Seriously, if they start remaking 70's/80's shows, why don't they bring back "AirWolf", "Hill Street Blues", "Magnum P.I." or even "The Greatest American Hero"? Hell, if they remade "Miami Vice" as a film, why not make a new Miami Vice TV series? Hollywood has gone to shit, in remaking movies and now, TV shows. Where is the originality?
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correction.
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There is no justice in this world.
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The first girl left for a year. This may be where the idea for "the mom" came from. And the old KITT did make a cameo. Its engine, nameplate, and wheel were in the garage of Davidson's house at the beginning when the Blackriver guys were searching for the harddrives.What was with all the teen angst b.s. with Mike and the girl. These characters are 23-25 years old, not 17. Lots of padding. Why didn't GM sign on to this using the new Trans-Am? They are making it along with the new Camero, and the new Trans-Am looks great. Maybe GM read the script and said, "Nope. We may suck, but we are not desperate."-----later-----m
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Bring back Bionic Woman. This makes that show seem ten times better
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Feb 17, 2008 11:34:48 PM CST
NBC is canceling Friday Night Lights and puts this shit on the a
by rev. slappy
This was really horrible.
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...should learn to spell Citizen Kane. One guy even referenced Citizen Cane while referring to Knight Rider as "amateur hour." As for this entire talkback, it's clear that it quickly became a "who can hate Knight Rider more?" contest. And I'm not saying it was genius, but the number of calories used up tonight in trashing a mediocre movie of the week could have...well, I don't know, but if all that energy had been pooled together, at least three of you should have been able to move out of your respective basements.
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Dexter on DVD, have Showtime and have watched the pilot episode over 20 times showing it to people I should have felt no need to switch over while watching KR. I watched the edited version of Dexter on CBS instead of this new tv movie, man that's bad. I try to give everything a chance... but when the woman in this says her "father is missing and may be dead" in exactly the same voice you'd generally use ordering pizza, thats it. This makes me YEARN for Bionic Woman. Don't get me started on the Journeyman issue because that was a quality show that should have gotten a chance but... that doesn't excuse this from being so bad. I'm tired of the idea that because it has a hot chick or a cool car it should be watched by a lot of people.
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Bionic Woman, Flash Gordon,this great achievement, some real quality remakes are coming out of the works. Would have liked to see how the NBC meeting went, where the decided on no screener for this. "Yeah its utter sh#t, bin the screeners....and what other 80's stuff are we digging up to remake,overhype, and get some ads sold?"
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Come on, it'd be the greatest show ever made! Buck Roger's Twiki squaring off against the original Battlestar Galactica's Boxey and his pet Daggit, Muffitt. It would be orgasmic in it's televised greatness. Having Twiki, Boxey and Muffitt on screen at the same time would be so great your eyes would explode and your ears would shit themselves, especially on the episode where Jar Jar Binks makes an "extra special guest star appearance". You know you want it, so write the networks, demand it to be made! I promise, it'll be even better than Manimal 2: Cannibal Manimal.
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NBC's latest and lamest attempt to monetize its entire lineup. It is called "a content wrap." (Read all about it in this excellent LA Times article: http://tinyurl.com/37ldjs).Yes, Knight Rider was literally one long car commercial, with some considerable percentage of the production costs subsidized by Ford in exchange for prominent advertising opportunities. Jeff Zucker and Ben Silverman have turned NBC into a fucking joke at the behest of GE/Universal. The network that gave you The Cosby Show, St. Elsewhere, Friends, Boomtown, Cheers, ER, Journeyman, Friday Night Lights, Seinfeld, The West Wing and Friends is now home to My Dad is Better than Your Dad, American Gladiators, Knight RIder, and Deal or No Deal stunts. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Zucker, Silverman and the other corporate honchos at NBC/Universal are batshit crazy.
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The man comes around...and his name is mike traceur. Embarrassing.
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This actually made the piece of pure crap that was Knight Rider 2000 look decent. I don't care as much for plot holes and things that don't make sense--it's a damn talking car show, after all--but there was not one iota of FUN or entertainment in the damn thing. Where was the action? The entire first hour was spent sitting in the car talking about their feelings! Best thing about those two wasted hours was that serial commercial with KITT fucking up Michael's date. THAT alone would've made a better pilot.
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will they have to completely remove the character of james doakes from the series? if they censor out all of his f-bombs, he'll have very little dialogue left.
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...other than the theme music, as pointed out by tailhook, was when k.i.t.t. would go into some sort of 'hyper mode,' transforming so that it could travel even faster than before. well... at least i *think* i remember k.i.t.t. being able to transform from time to time. anyone else ever see that, or did i just dream that shit up?
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There are nothing but Fords on the streets and highways. I f'n hate Fords!
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Ben Silverman, the boss of NBC programming got his job because his prodution company (one of the few independent production companies left in the U.S. after 1999) bought the rights to 3 foreign shows. One show he tinkered with, and it was one of the greatest failiers in TV history: "Coupling." The other 2 he had almost no say in their "Americanization", instead smart writers and other executive and associate producers were on hand to craft those shows into major hits: "Ugly Betty", and "The Office." Because of the 2 latter, the bosses of GE and Universal gave him the job of running NBC programming, and he is destoying their network. They will be in the same position ABC was from 2002-2005. Eisner based the networks success on reality TV, "Who Wants to be a Millionaire", and when their shows flammed out, ABC had nothing but a cult show in "Alias". They also were working on a pilot with the "Alias" guys about a plane crash. Eisner wanted the plane crash project shut down, but he was on his way out and in no position to have his orders obeyed. It was only after he left that the new bosses built the network into the place for white women 25-50. How did they do it? They gave a "Knot's Landing" writer a shot at doing a comedic, slighly satirical send-up of his 1980's primetime soap (Desperate Houswives), then gave the woman who helped write Disney's big screen hit "The Princess Diaries" a shot at doing a remake of Dr Kildare, but with a woman in the lead (Grey's Anatomy.) Off of those 2 hits and that plane crash pilot (Lost), ABC crawled out of a distant 4th place.NBC could solve this problem buy getting rid of Zucker, Silverman, and SciFi and USA Network executive Bonnie Hammer. They will go nowhere with those 3 running their TV channels.-----later-----m
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Comes from 2 clones of Knight Rider. "Street Hawk" where the vehicle was a motorcycle, and "Viper", a syndicated action show.
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I don't often laugh at talkback, but that gave me a good chortle.
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I'll still watch the series. I laughed at the obvious reference to *Las Vegas*...the casino was the Montecito (sic), the fictional casino of that series. They seriously needed old man/badass James Caan doing a cameo punching out the villains to the tunes of Duran Duran, but then again, Caan hasn't even been on that series in a season.
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Must be if he's reading a comic book during the breaks.
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Yeah, it was a reference to that other NBC show, but no doubt came about because they used the Las Vegas sets for the casino scene.
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reposted a review from JTS and it got deleted. I don't thing there was anything offensive it it and it made some good points, but anyway. Whatever. No Sky, I'm not 12, I'm 55 - and Gerber's 1980 Stewart the Rat graphic novel was a lot better then this was. What were you doing during the breaks, watching TV commercials? speaking of comics, did anyone else recognize the part where the hero stops in the middle of the road and lets the villain's vehicle smash into him/it and the bad guys are trashed while the hero remains unscather was stollen from the first issue of Swamp Thing? Which was also better than this was.
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that makes me better than all you cockmunchers.
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. . . all you haters are re-goddamn-diculous. Holy shit - if you didn't like it, then why the bloody fuck did you watch the thing and waste more time typing in this TB?
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S426: I think some of the young people here were fans of the original show and tuned in to see how the sequel would compare. And if you read the "live" comments posted during the broadcast, I think some of the people here enjoyed critiqueing the show live more than they enjoyed watching it. JC: And reading and posting to a talkback about a made for TV movie that you didn't watch doesn't make you better than anybutty. Why would you do that?
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Seriously, the old KITT could jump straight through trucks, why can't the new one do that?
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KITT had that in the last season of the old show.
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You show 50 minutes worth of commercials! Honestly, did anyone else find that incredibly annoying that they were showing commercials every 4 minutes? It was almost as if the show was just one long commercial for Ford.
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I am a special needs kid and a film school dropout. But I don't, however, work in fast food. I'm employed at a Subway, damn it, and we sandwich artists don't appreciate being lumped in with that ilk. Ooooohh, I'm steamin' now!
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.....There is always a river! Or a tributary! Or a fiord!
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It's getting rediculous how many commercials are being rapid fire cramed down our throats lately. Don't this corporate boneheads realize that so many commercials will just turn us *off* of their products? I've resorted to recording the show with my DVR and fastforwarding through the commercials.
Now, about you haters. Honestly, IT'S A TV SHOW. Sure the plot was thick and predictable. "Mike. I am your faaather..." How gay was that? The whole gay body double thing was rediculous too.
But it WAS only a TV show. Are you expecting Shakespear? It had a lot of action. A nice car. Pretty women. Hot lesbians, and a nice cyberpunk factor as well.
Give the show a chance.
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Last night will draw a big enough audience where it will at least be picked up for a six episode run over the summer. Hopefully (And that is a very big Hopefully) more time will be spent on some of the scripts to make up for the lack of time spent on the movie/pilot.
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I realized that it was just the pilot. Pilots can be dramatically altered before going to series. Look at Star Trek. Besides, Knight of the Phoenix was good for its day, but it wasn't Laurence of Arabia for the small screen either.
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I woke up this morning having with a Knight Rider hangover and a thought came to me. If the series does happen, who will be the voice of KITT? Will Val Kilmer voice the car for the series? I kinda doubt it. After a few hours of sleep, I still think the movie was a shit full of fuck, but hopefully the writers can come up with good shit for the series.
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I HATED the new "Knight Rider." It was nothing more than an advertising vehicle (no pun intended) for Ford cars. What was with that annoying pop music that played throughout the movie?
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I didn't bother watching because I knew the show was likely to be shit ... and if a small miracle happened and it was actually good, since we're dealing with NBC here, they'd be sure to either cancel it (Journeyman style) or decide they have a great thing and start dragging it out and have the plot go no where (Heroes style). Either way, the viewer loses. Network TV has become a joke. Most new shows suck, and the ones that are actually good aren't given enough time to develop a following so they are canned and not given a proper ending just to piss on the viewers.
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KITT could do Turbo Boost jumps before he got Super Pursuit Mode. They trashed an entire Trans-Am every time they did a jump.
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just flipped over during Dexter's commercial breaks, and the 10 minutes I watched of Knight Rider was enough.
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I really did. And I loved Christopher Tyng's soundtrack. Remember people, he did FUTURAMA too.
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This morning in his review: "So I come back from a week away, and what should await me but a time warp to a long-forgotten (and happily so) era of kitschy schlock. Courtesy, naturally, of NBC, whose new regime appears to be operating under an embargo banning anything with a shred of originality. Two hours of American Gladiators (which I skipped) followed by two hours of Knight Rider (which I forced myself to endure). Fasten your seat belts. It’s going to be a forgettable night—unless you enjoy the rubbernecking spectacle of watching a network slip further into the abyss of cultural irrelevancy. (You doubt me? I guess you missed the promos for Monday’s newest reality gem, My Dad Is Better Than Your Dad.)
"The new (more or less) Knight Rider wasn’t really a show, more like the longest car ad in human memory: "Brought to you by the star of our show, (name of car)." Almost made you pine for the good old days of the writers’ strike.
"Despite a few contemporary touches—one of the heroes (Sydney Tamiia Poitier) is a lesbian cop, not that it made her actually interesting, beyond her gratuitous Baywatch-lite entrance—this was about as old-hat as TV gets, a creaky jalopy tricked out with wooden lead actors, leaden pacing and abysmal writing. Wonder what NBC’s superior Chuck (developed by the previous regime) would be like without wit and engaging characters? Here’s your answer.
"The GPS in my rental car last Christmas had more personality than Val Kilmer’s drone as the voice of KITT. I swear there were times I detected a yawn as KITT nagged the cocky son-of-Michael Knight, but maybe that was just me. (Kilmer was a last-minute replacement for Will Arnett, who might have conveyed a welcome droll irony, but it only served to remind me how William Daniels’ haughty line readings was the sole asset of the original series.)
"I’m with the show’s heroine, Sarah (Deanna Russo), who during her first reluctant joyride in KITT’s cabin, was heard to gripe: “This isn’t fun at all” and “How much more of this do I have to take?” (Sadly, there was at least another hour of show to go at that point.) Watching Russo and future trivia answer Justin Bruening ride around while the car did all the heavy lifting, they might as well have been saying, “Look, ma, no talent!” I especially appreciated the scene when the generic bad guy shot and killed Mike’s mom, causing the stars’ emotions to surge, running the gamut (apologies to Dorothy Parker) from A to A-minus.
"In industry-speak, this Knight Rider movie is what’s known as a "backdoor pilot." (Scary thought, right?) But a lemon by any other name is still a lemon." -
They intended it to feel like from the 70s/80s - cheese and all. I mean really, didn't it seem kind of old fashioned?
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It seems that writers for tv guide agree with the talkbackers about how bad Knight Rider was. But people responses on the articles are all positive for the movie. They found it "enjoyable," "fun," and "entertaining." These people must have been watching Viper reruns by accident.
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... as Kitt's voice, I could care less. Are you telling me "Hey Mike" is the best they can come up with? Sorry, this is going nowhere fast.
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Well everyone's suspicions as to whether the new Knight Rider would suck were answered on Sunday, did a 2 year child and crayons write the script, the characters were boring.Than there's the new KITT which was stupid, Val Kilmer as the voice made me puke, they must have paid Hasselhoff in alcohol to even consider embarrassing himself in this trainwreck, but don't worry folkes we all know NBC will green light this piece of shit for a new television series.
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There were way too many Ford commercials, so much so that I would not want to buy a Ford because of it. KITT also did jack shit compared to the old one. Turbo Boast? No. Not impressed....
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How did we get a female lead, heart to hearts about old relationships. That whole movie should've been the first half hour of a pilot. Holy shit it was awful.
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Of all the "Knight Rider" follow-ups/reboots/remakes, this was the worst. First of all, *that* was not KITT, simply an ugly-ass car with a voice, and it screamed "Bring back the Trans-AM!" The plot was straight out of the '80s, and it wasn't simply nostalgia, it was "Antiques Roadshow." I'm thinking that it was probably the draft of an original KR script that was rejected back in the day. And David Hasselhoff...added nothing with his appearance. Yes, the new Knight Rider looks and feels like it was written in twelve days.
It occurred to me later that another (and darker) route that the new Knight Rider could have taken (based on the throwaway line about how "creepy" KITT's search capabilities were) was to portray the "current" world as being much more tightly under government control (due to the development and misuse of KITT's technology). This would be more in keeping with the change in atmosphere that's made the new BSG a classic. But, since this is a plot bunny that will never grow into a rabbit, I will simply sigh wistfully. -
after the 2 minute "I have to take a pee break" if Mike would have moved in to kiss the girl and touched her face and she responds with "did you wash your hands?"
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Did the new ambiguosly gay Michael Knight have a fake penciled on 5 o'clock shadow??? Why not just kill him off and put Hoff in the car ???
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Mike is mad for like 10 seconds, last words to dying mother are "don't talk". And WTH after KITT smashes the suv in the final chase the evil European says "This doesn't change a thing." Worst 2 hours of TV since Sci-fi's Alien Scarecrow from Hell 2nd Dimension.
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I refused to watch this for the sole fact that they made K.I.T.T. a fucking Mustang!
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I'm saving watching it for when i get really constipated and need a "little help".... sounds like it'll loosen up my bowels real good as for going with kilmer over arnett- arnett does v.o. work on gm commercials... the people at gm were not happy with the idea of him voicing a ford. i had such hopes for kilmer after 'kiss kiss, bang bang', now i lay in wait for him to show up on 'celebrity rehab' cause he had to be fucking high as a spy satellite to take this job... oh yeah, fords suck. they should have waited a year and used the new dodge challenger (the official midlife crisis car of 2009)
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William Daniels, William Daniels, William Daniels, William Daniels, William Daniels, William Daniels, William Daniels, William Daniels!
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no turbo boost, no jumps, no ejector seats, no convertible, no super pursuit mode? and no sarcasm from kitt? this was supposed to be a more 'advanced' model then the trans am? huh?
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Yeah, uh, no...
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...oh, sorry, it was the Knight Rider movie. My mistake.
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the last two seconds, which was a nice touch.
But terrible for all the obvious reasons, along with the same mistakes they made in remaking Mission Impossible. You don't shit on the original characters. Michael Knight's character would never abandon his son. KITT's voice would never change. KITT is always programed with a sense of humor. When you fail to respect the original, you make the remake pointless. -
The only good thing about that failure of a reboot was the Pontiac Banshee which Pontiac never brought to market. Yes, Michael Knight was in it and so was the original KITT, but the way they killed off Devon caused the whole thing to jump the shark before we knew the meaning of that phrase. That and gun control. Sh'yeah, that'll happen in America.
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The plot holes need to be fixed. Why was FLAG dormant? How come the designer of KITT can re-activate FLAG and not a Devon Miles'ish head of the organization? Shouldn't Michael Knight be the head of Knight Industries? Why is Michael Traceur's name "Traceur" instead of "Knight" or "Long"? Was that his mother's last name? Sorry, but I don't remember her from the original series. He should've been the son of Michael and Bonnie. Where's RC3? Oh wait, the diversity card was played with Traceur's hispanic best friend, my bad. What's with moles and the actresses? Is the female FBI agent a lipstick lesbian or a trendy bisexual (not that I mind). Is Traceur so much of a man that he often requires 2 or more ladies at once to satisfy him? Again, good move, but Hasselhoff in the original series had so much Captain Kirk swagger to him that they didn't need to "show" us that he was capable of pulling that off. I guess, sometimes it pays off in terms of characterization to have over-zealous censors to worry about. But the series needs to be FUN. There wasn't much fun with this. That's what needs to be addressed when this goes to series. And the theme music isn't bombastic enough like the original. They should check out what has been done to the *Doctor Who* theme music for the upcoming Series4. Totally bombastic, which conveys that it is going to be exciting. So the bassline for Knight Rider needs to be kicked up and embrace the great original theme. And add the voice over to the end like the original. That should've been done when KITT exited the C-130 at the end. Its the little things that add up...
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...the voice over should either be the original one [done by the deceased actor who played Wilton Knight] or by Hasselhoff himself.
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I know who Mike's grandfather is. It's Austin Powers. Austin Powers fathered Michael Long. That's why Knight's chest is so hairy and all women love him. He has Power's mojo. Now we get to see if Mike Traceur has inherited the Austin Power's hairy chest/mojo gene.
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9PM: 12.35 million
9:30 - 12.61m
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Geesh, the nanobot thing is stupid. geesh. The CGI of bullets bouncing off, basically? Abandoning wholly KITT's MOLECULAR BONDING?
Val Kilmer was the most lively part of the movie. There were dumb discussions in the worst parts (ie about to get shot, let's talk about where daddy went). Mom, whom we meet for 5 seconds, gets it. Michael Knight shows up for no reason whatsoever and leaves. Period. No explanation. No KITT (ie Trans Am). Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. Will Arnett's lucky he got his ass yanked off the project. What's funny is that I thought, as I did for Batman Forever, that Val Kilmer would make an AMAZING KITT VOICE. And he WOULD HAVE. If only the script were written for HIM. So much potential went kablooey. It's sooo sad. The plot itself was both a rip-off and inexplicable renunciation of the original series. The shape-shifting thing was done on such a close-up / fast-cut-away level that if it were interesting to watch, we couldn't enjoy it. That the nanobots don't work when the computer is off...? What happened to molecular bonding, dammit?
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if not sooner, by those numbers. Dexter, OTOH, got a 5.2 rating/9 share, with about 8 million viewers seeing the cleaned-up pilot.
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Did they really do that? BLACK RIVER? Ha ha, NOT blackWATER, but black RIVER?! HA HA, aren't we sooooo crafty?
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I haven't even gotten to the plotholes yet. You're write on every count. Why was the foundation "dormant"? How can someone who was squirreled away, who had no role whatsoever in FLAG after creating the AI, start it up again. And this time, with the FBI's HELP? The idea of a private law enforcement group is silly enough, but to undermine that premise by making KITT work for the FBI? COME ON! Now it's SPY KITT. Oh, and shouldn't it be the CIA, not the FBI>?
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pursuit mode always existed on KITT, didn't it? The RC3 fix, though, was that random parts of the car could be popped out and the car would go really really fast. and become a convertible.
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Are they so worried about scratching their car that they abandoned TURBO BOOST?
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Better yet....Team Manimal.
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if memory serves accurately, super pursuit mode never existed prior to RC salvaging kitt after an attack by goliath. He installed that, the Emergency Braking System and the hard top convertible mode but I'm pretty sure there wasn't a regular Pursuit Mode prior to that- only the turbo boost. In any event, talking about the original series has been infinately more fun for me than sitting through the last half hour of that trite, poorly written, under-considered and piss poorly acted/paced piece of commercial crap.
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Feb 18, 2008 1:06:40 PM CST
THIS is why we supported the writers during the strike???
by acappellaman
Seriously, that was bad. I think the WORST thing about it was the sound. Half of the time I couldn't even hear the dialogue - it was buried underneath all the other noise, especially Kilmer. Granted, he sounded like he was drugged the whole time, AND uninterested.
Another gripe - when Michael stopped in the road so the truck would hit them, did I somehow miss something that must've anchored KITT to the road? KITT may be bulletproof, but he can't defy the laws of physics. Once the truck hit him, he SHOULD have been thrown back after the collision, but somehow became immovable.
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The name Knight Rider and the massive marketing push NBC did for the show guaranteed that the pilot movie was going to get big ratings. What the ratings will be 4 shows in will be a better judge.
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I was expecting it to be utter trash, but I've found it to pleasantly enjoyable. I thought it would really bother me that there were more Terminators sent back for John, but it really hasn't. Summer Glau is AWESOME. The interview with the counselor cracked me up last week. I don't see this show lasting more than a few seasons at most, but I'll enjoy it while it's here.
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they sorta had no choice to kill him off in that 2000 movie since the actor had died.
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What? Did I just watch a movie where to two leads sat in a fuckin' car for two hours and talked? I already saw Little Miss Sunshine. There was absolutely no feeling in this shit. The original, 80's cheese, yes, but fun. Like the original Incredible Hulk. There was something endearing about the characters. This boy-band embryo that Mikey was did not bring anything significant to the character. We are unaware of how noble he was (The Hoff was a cop), and "restarting the Foundation" shit at the end seemed tacked on. If you are opening this up to a new generation, then you need to give a little more background. More exposition would have been a lot better than seeing KITT question the male lead's sexuality. I give it a tie with Bionica Lewinsky.
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why was the FBI agent being a lesbian rubbed in our faces? what was the importance of that scene? how did that affect her lame character in any way? lynxpro - all your points are right on. you should submit a re-tooled script to the NBC idiots.
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OMG what a wreck that was last night. They couldn't even get the damn theme music right. I had high hopes, but it didn't last past the opening credits and val kilmers voice. You know, I wanting to cheer at the Micheal Knight cameo, but then they make him come in at a funeral?? WTF, yeah, thats something to smile and cheer at. This could have been a fun and action packed joyride of a show, instead it was boring, over stylized and edited by some micheal bay imbred cousin. And don't get me started about the acting, directing and writing. You suck NBC and just should have let us have our real Knight Rider movie, the one that was going to theatres, now you just ruined that hope. Oh, and the cheap effects were so bad. I AM ANGRY!!
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They're the newest shadowy cabal for 21st Century TV/movie writers. Jericho has one, Knight Rider has one. I'm sure there was one on Bionic Woman and maybe 24
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This Knight Ridger was just marginally watchable. Good thing I had it on TIVO instead of watching it live. Plus the theme music sucked ass. It was just a bunch of guitar noise. Like a 5 year old grabed a guitar and started strumming. It makes Space Ghost Coast to Coast theme music seem like a Hit Single.
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It also irked me that every scene they are getting shot at but yet they get in a buckle up. It seems like they got hammered by the same crowd that hammered Hannah Montana.
And why do I have to watch a comerical during my TV show. Come on first they start advertising shows on top of the show they are playing, becoming worse screen graffiti artist than G4. Now the whole show becomes an advert for the Mustang.
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Just wanted to add an American Gladiators bitch. Why do they have a two hour special and cram it with an hour and a half worth of crap. Holy christ I mean it wasn't until the 21 minute mark when they got the the first event. I sware I fast forwarded through an hour and a half of crap in this show. Plus putting a movie trailer in the middle of a show, classless.
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The new version of "Knight Rider" makes "The Sarah Connor Chronicles" look like fucking Bill Shakespeare.
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At least it wasn't "Look how big of a liar I am" or some other lame fucking reality show.
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I'm trying to decide if they're complaining because they think the original Knight Rider was the height of intelligent social commentary, quick wit, a real scholarly pursuit to be studied through the ages, or if they're complaining because they think there are much better programs that aren't getting a chance on network TV. My guess is the former. Twats indeed.
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NBC is in the lead for the Knight!
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from Saturday Night Live in the late 80s. Mike Meyers did a recurring sketch about a German club show where the main character had a monkey and told people to touch it.
Veronica Mars HAHAHA -
Don't you remember when they'd chase people, they'd go REAL FAST through the streets...it wasn't just flooring the gas. It was pressing the "pursuit mode" button. Of course, the question is, how did pursuit mode make the car go faster than simply flooring the gas? Or, put differently, what happened when the gas was floored when pursuit mode wasn't on? I guess, my point, is that why did they need a pursuit mode to begin with.
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the voice synthesizer was way cooler in the original series (even the first one with the flashing red square)
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They set it in San Francisco. Dress Michael up in Edwardian clothes and let him kiss Kitt at the end...
Oh, you've heard that one already... -
I tried, but this show makes The Sarah Connor Chronicles look like the Sopranos.
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I'm not sure what all of the complaining is about. Have you seen the original Knight Rider lately. That show was cool as shit when I was 12 or whatever and I imagine if I was 12 and saw this show, I would think it was cool as shit. I think they could have integrated the old with the new much better. Start the show off with the original Knight Rider and a de-agified Hoff like they did with the X-Men. Michael and the original KITT go out in a blaze of glory but Michael Knight lives and uses the explosion/car gone off the cliff/into the ocean or whatever to dissapear into the sunset and retire and then come back Racer X style to help Spee...I mean Mike Jr. from time to time. Or maybe he could be his Bruce Wayne to the new Batman or something. The cameo/pep talk deal at the end was lame.
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KITT without turboboost is like Burger King without a whopper. What are they gonna call it now, DayRider or BitchRider.
Plus who's not going to notice a big cargo plan landing on the highway. Nothing to see here, move along.
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Didn't the bad guy play Saunders in 24?
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I just thought I'd bring up the fact that the creator of the original British version of *Coupling* is Steven Effin' Moffat, the back-to-back Hugo Award winning writer of the very best episodes of the relaunched *Doctor Who*, which have been "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances", "The Girl in the Fireplace", and most recently "Blink". And "Blink" did horror without any gore or actual violence. Moffat also created the very funny yet British Seinfeld-esque series *Joking Apart* which I actually preferred to *Seinfeld* except for in the case of the last two seasons of *Seinfeld*. *Knight Rider* could really use a script penned by Moffat, who is on contract to pen some scripts for Spielberg and who was just in Los Angeles this weekend. I seriously suggest that any NBC staff monitoring this talkback should seriously consider hiring him to write a script. It would definitely be a classic. And speaking of the American version of *Coupling*, one of its actresses is on NBC's *Lipstick Jungle* while one of its actors is on NBC/SciFi's *Eureka*.
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For your plot to work, you need Eric Roberts as the villain! But seriously, why bag on the *Doctor Who* tv movie? Its still better than most of the new episodes outside of the ones written by Steven Moffat and Paul Cornell, and certainly heads-and-shoulders above anything that RTD has written for the show. Then again, you might be referencing *Sherlock Holmes Returns*.
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...I highly recommend NBC does Michelle Ryan a solid and cast her as an agent of BlackRiver who tries to seduce and eliminate Michael Traceur Knight. I mean, if you chaps have to have a villain be British and wear eye-liner, you might as well get a hottie to fill that role. And I'd definitely prefer Michelle for that role over some Michael Des Barres wanna-be.
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The only gripe I really had was at the beginning I thought I was watching a Ford commercial. KITT passed a couple Focus's, Edge, Fusion, etc. I was having flashbacks to the Transformers desert driving scene. The only other complaint I really had was that the CGI was absolutely horrible. Other than that, it was what I expected from a Knight Rider tv show. It entertained and that was enough. I didn't expect anything profound.
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THE RETURN OF TEAM KNIGHT RIDER 2009!!!...starring Johnathan Lipniki and McCauley Culkin..and as the voices of the KITT's.....Ariana Huffington, Martin Short, Elliott Gould, John-Rys Davies, and Armin Shimmerman. Written and directed by some guy we found over by the trainyard.
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I said it when it was announced that this sounded like a total turd shit of NBC's ass and lo an behold the reviews come back that it's a nice stinky one too. Color me shocked.
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Not bad at all. It shows alot of promise and I want a Cobra more than ever now!
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Oops! I guess you can't read! LOL!
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http://www.syfyportal.com/news424730.html
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@-suit Mode = Car Go Fastee
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The thing that made the original Knight Rider was "the cast of characters feeling like real people"? Really? You really just went on record as saying that Knight Rider was a show grounded in realistic characters? My mind is fucking blown friend.
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"Up yours, Kitt!'
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But hopefully the writers will shape up and start to write more compelling, less anti-climatic stories. I was really hoping for a reveal of Michael Knight on his death bed telling his son he was restarting the foundation and wants him to drive the car. Basically give him the speech the old man gave hasselhoff in the pilot of the original series.
On a side note, I am quite impressed with Fox's Terminator show
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And so could any of you. And Memories of Murder if he's still around.
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Wordeur.
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the majority of u are smoking.....it was pretty good....this is another case of "raping my childhood" syndrome...and im not surprised by the negative reactions.....and really not surprised by the "bad cg" comment....like i said in another talkback... if i had a dollar for everyone that bitched about bad cg and bad story id be rich. get a life, its a TV show, dont like it , dont watch it.
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cause that's what NBC basically put on television
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I'm coming into this talkback late, but I have read most of te comments. I like the idea of new Knight Rider and that it respects original continuity. However, I would like to see the following changed.
- Adjust the theme tune. By all means jazz up the original, but still make it sound similar. When the new tune started up it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up.... and then when it descended into inaudible trash metal I felt hugely disappointed. Doctor Who has proven over the years how an original theme can survive decades by just small changes whilst respecting what it is.
- Get new writers. Take a leaf out of the BSG reboot. Lose the nostalic campness (Read lazy writing) and make the show interesting enough to return to each week. Self contained episodes aren't enough anymore and an ongoing story arc is essential in modern serials.
- Give Hasslehoff a small part as a background 'shadowy' figure, perhaps pulling the strings of the Federation's re-start. Maybe he has his own agenda? Also, put a familiar Trans Am into HQ's garage and have at least one episode where it's dusted off just to 'help out'.
- Develop a more detailed history of the Federation and make it interesting .... possibly in flashback.
- Finally, if we must have such a big cast for what used to be a 'one man and his car show', give them something to do via their own storylines.
Other than that, nice attempt at the new show. Kinda like most of it, but looking forward to better written episodes. -
Michael Long had to adopt the name of Knight. Then so too must the new Michael.
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opening intro stunk...Mike with two girls in bed was stupid...Blatant lesbianism inuendo stupid..Disgruntled Iraq war vet alla Cindy Sheehan is very stupid....Original KITT disassembled in garage stupid...no molecular bonded shell is stupid...Why not have the nano tech on top of the molecular bonded shell?... Should have had The Hoff driving to the funeral in the original KITT letting us know they are both still alive and still friends...Michael Knight used to call KITT buddy and pal and regarded the original KITT as a friend..New KITT seems too artificial while Anthony daniels gave KITT personality and life in the same fashion Johnny 5 had in Short Circuit...After driving so many miles to get to Vegas in a short time, how in the world did the bad guys just happen to be in the casino before KITT arrived?..How quickly KITT was hacked into was stupid...The original Knight RIder pilot is still a whole lot better and more fun than this....As cheesy as the original show was, I still would rather have it back than this new MTV style nonsense which is(teach the kids it is OK to have multiple girlfriends, sleep with them before marriage and have lesbian girlfriend you just meet the night before in a club and leave her in your bed naked..) I loved Knight Rider as a kid and at the moment I wouldn't want my kids watching this show.. I'll make sure they watch all the old episodes and enjoy great 80's TV along with A-team and Airwolf...
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despite the fact they've screwed with Terminator canon after last night's episode I can say that this series is no longer on the bubble for me. I really like it. The stories and acting are both great. Who thought Brian Austin Greene would be able to leave his 90210 wussiness behind to be a future soldier.
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Bugger the talking car, bring back Street Hawk right now!
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you can be exposed to bullets while riding your bike really fast. Try that crap in NYC rush hour and see how far that gets you.
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Just seen it, and i really think, that it's like BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
a really good way to begin the series.
First of all, it's continuing the Original Series, and second, they're not altering anything from the original Story of the good old KnightRider.
Therefore the new K.I.T.T. is meant to be the second and utilizes other means to sustain enemy fire than the old K.I.T.T. did.
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No Turbo Boost, No Ejecting Seats, No Super Pursuit Mode, No Performance. My 2008 Honda Accord is better than than this K.I.T.T. I guarantee you I could shake a Ford Explorer in a mountain pass....
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I love how some folks hate this show and expect you to hate it as well because obviously they are right. Last I checked there is a variety of shows on tv because not everyone likes the same thing. I loved me some Knight Rider back in '84 and I thought the pilot was decent enough. I didn't expect some balls to the wall tv show that would be Emmy worthy. I just expected something entertaining and I was entertained. I definitely prefer the original KITT, but Kilmer wasn't too bad as the voice and the Mustang Cobra started to grow on me. Sorry to disagree with those who obviously know better.
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Either/Or. Take your pick.
I wasn't happy with some aspects of Doctor Who: The Movie. On reflection, it looks better than it did back then, but still not up to the current series. RTD is not my fave DW writer, but I can still watch his stuff.
The point I was making is that if you're going to piss off the fans, why not use techniques that have worked TWICE already? :) -
How has TSSC screwed with canon (aside from already ignoring T3)? Not that I mind, I agree last night's episode was awesome, it's a shame so many people seem to have written the show off already.
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in TV history: KITT talking to the daughter, asking about her mother, puts on his screen a picture of the mother and daughter. Then she tells KITT her mother is dead and we see the picture slowly fade to black.
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Cause, seriously, that show has gotten better with each episode. There was a hell of a lot to geek about in last night's. Kyle, HKs, the time machine...
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Who would'a thunk Brian Austin Greene could play a badazz? And he's doing it well! I like how the series took a dump on T3 and negated it. The show is doing far better than I thought it would without one single original cast member involved. Although I'd totally geek out if they somehow convinced Arnold to do a cameo.
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I wish Michael Biehn could come back. Maybe make him Kyle's father (John Conner's grandfather.) Nice to see Johnathan Jackson getting some work.-----later----m
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I laughed myself to sleep.
When is Journeyman coming back?
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if the David Hasslehoff cameo at the end was done by the drunk, shirtless, cheeseburger eating Hoff from that video, rather than the "horrible actor trying to act" Hoff. That being said, the show made me want to stab my eyeballs out with with the penis bone of a fully mature Yak. Congrats, NBC - you have laid the fattest, sweatiest turd of the season. Get The Office back on post-haste. Shit - I'd rather watch ER than this.
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You know, I was not fully watching at that moment. I saw the license plate, wondering if KITT was somehow in that garage, too. Was KITT really in parts? Or was that extra parts?
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Or is that a special feature?
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Let us hope it was just spare parts for the original KITT and not have it dissasembled now twice in two very bad Knight Rider pilot's/episodes..
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-which was not great... hansello I'm totally with ya - ESPECIALLY about that FUCKING NU-METAL CRAP posing as the theme song - GET RID OF THAT SHIT QUICK!!
and yes Mr Traceur should now be Mr Knight - just to be totally confusing - and he should have driven away from that funeral in a black Trans Am...
Also - fuck giving those other characters something to do - GET RID OF THEM! Fuck that mechanic OFF for a start and fucking sexual tension girl can fuck right off too. The lesbian can hang around if she's not in EVERY FUCKING EPISODE and you might just have something there... -
FUCK OFF TO YOUR OWN TALKBACK CUNTS - oh right you don't HAVE ONE coz that show is so SHIT...
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Feb 20, 2008 12:54:33 AM CST
It was written in 12 days...and felt like it. UTTER SHIT.
by big dumb ape
First of all, I TOTALLY agree with Supermans above who noted: "As cheesy as the original show was, I still would rather have it back than this new MTV style nonsense which is(teach the kids it is OK to have multiple girlfriends, sleep with them before marriage and have lesbian girlfriend you just meet the night before in a club and leave her in your bed naked..) I loved Knight Rider as a kid and at the moment I wouldn't want my kids watching this show."The whole desperately trying to be "sexually hip" angle was downright stupid and misplaced in a show about a talking car. I agree with Supermans -- the original show was clearly aimed at younger kids and was simply fun, while this thing right from the start was taking itself too seriously. Which leads to the biggest problem of all......Namely the fucking car didn't DO anything. Great, bullets bounce off it. Check, got it, saw that SFX shot repeated 2 or 3 times. Oh, and guess what -- the car goes fast which is only what I'd expect a Mustang to do that even I fucking bought right off of the lot. Other than that...nothing. And for a freakin' 2 hour premiere that is just criminal. And once you had the lame and cliched and cookie cutter set up that Mike Traceur was a race driver, fucking give me a break -- like we didn't know there was going to come a point where KITT's computer would go down so he just HAD to drive the car to prove why HE should be behind the wheel. Note to screenwriter: next time try to be a little more creative in the cliches you use. Oh wait -- this was the same ass bragging that he wrote this pilot in under 12 days, which it showed.Finally the Hoff's appearance was a TOTAL waste. As someone else noted, what, you brought Michael Knight back JUST so you could pull a Singer SUPERMAN RETURNS and make Michael into another runaway deadbeat dad? A far, far better scene would have been when the wife got shot for Knight and the original KITT to bust up the scene and arrive to push the crooks back onto the road...Davison in toe...and to then have a THREE way car chase with the new KITT, the old KITT and the villains. THAT would have been bad ass and more fun and worthy of a climax to relaunching the show.But hey, that's the shit you get served when you pound crap out in 12 days for a paycheck.
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I'm the UK so I downloaded it and have sat through it twice. While it has it's problems (all of which have been mentioned above) I think with a few tweaks this could be a good show, the butchering of the theme tune is its worst crime IMO.
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It would have been better if Will Arnet was playing Kitt. That's one of the main reasons I was excited about the new series in the first place.
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The original show was pretty shitty too, so I gave this one some slack. And it bored me a lot less than Bionic Women. I actually kind of liked the new Kitt. Yeah, they need to bring back turbo boost and they still may. But I was laughing my balls off when he showed the picture of the Indian crying when Mike dropped a potato chip. This Kitt knows how to cross-reference in a snap and that makes it a little more interesting to me. I also laughed after complaining that no truck trailer could be that wide, only to see later that it was a air transport. In theory, that means they won't be stuck in L.A. (or even America) all the time. And of course, the appearance by the Hoff was cool.
Now the bad. Right off the bat, I was not liking the kiddie actors. Granted they're probably in their 30s, but they look like they're in their early 20s and I just can't take that shit seriously. The writing needs work, but it is a pilot and they suck, more often than not. Did the mother think she was Rambo, pulling her pistol out on all those guys with automatic weapons? Also, they couldn't crack those hard drives, but they could crack Kitt in seconds? And Kitt couldn't just shut off his Wi-Fi instead? Unless they were 'microwave jam' hacking him. I get that the original show had bad writing, but we live in different times now. Still, I'd watch a few more episodes before I give up on it. It ain't in Journeyman's league, but it may be good popcorn/Smallville type fun.
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...and yet we see them making artistic decision on KR, like vetoing Arnett, and turning the entire pilot into a commercial.
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Wasn't that from the 'Sprockets' bit on SNL by Mike Meyers? Never saw VM. Also, this show looked like DVR'ing it would be a waste of magnetism. Was it any good?
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So, people are talking more on Terminator instead of that sucky ass rehash of KNIGHT RIDER. . . that has GOT to say a shit load on this movie.
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Granted, I think Val Kilmer was the best choice. Arnett sounded like someone trying to sound tough. Kinda like how Adam Carolla sounded tough on "Love Line" many years ago before anyone saw what he looked like, similar to the Wizard of Oz.
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The last few episodes of Terminator have been very strong and show keeps getting better each week. As much as I love the first two Terminator films, I think the series is well on it way to eclipsing both of them, in terms of acting, character development and story.
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Shit.
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Yeah, this thing lost me from the get-go. I don't want to watch a show about a lesbian cop or a gambling addict racecar driver having an orgy. I could create a better script in 12 hours than this douchebag did in 12 days. The car looked awesome, and I do wish I could trade my red mustang gt in for a black cobra kr, but that's about it.
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It was called "Thunder in Paradise" and starred Hulk Hogan, and was unsurprisingly COMPLETELY unwatchable even though Carol Alt was a supporting player.
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Red Shirt said: No KARR, No GOLIATH = no watchy
Well, since it#s a continuation to the Series, those Vehicles,that also used the Molecular Armor are already destroyed, and that sayed Armor is lost, so utilizing Nanotech, to virtually render Kitt invulnerable to Damage is quite a logic way to make him durable.
Also i liked the Way, they completely ignored the KnightRider3000-Movie and TeamKnightRider(which really sucked).
As it goes for me, i would really like to see this new KnightRider as a new Series.
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