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AICN EXCLUSIVE! We Know Who’s Paying Tribute To Heath Ledger In DR. PARNASSUS Now!

Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here. Have I mentioned how much I love this idea? Because I do. I think it’s beautiful that the script loaned itself to this sort of idea, that we’re going to see Heath Ledger’s work in Terry Gilliam’s new film, and that we’re also going to see three very interesting actors step up to offer interpretations of him as a way of paying one final tribute to this actor whose career was cut so sadly short. We’ve heard rumors about who might be stepping in, but now we’ve got the names verified. Count on it.


Nice choices, Gilliam. Can’t wait to see what happens inside the IMAGINARIUM OF DR. PARNASSUS, and I’d love to get a look at the script they’re going to use as they start this next stretch of shooting on the film.

Drew McWeeny, Los Angeles

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  • Feb. 15, 2008, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Really cool.

    by CoursinLarry

    Great actors paying tribute to another great actor. Can't wait.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:09 a.m. CST

    It should be Jake Gylenhall

    by Magma Suit

    Talk about touching. "Jack, I swear..."

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Great news.

    by Burgundy82

    Nice line-up.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:13 a.m. CST

    Good luck with the project and I hope it's respectful

    by Proman1984

    An that it's tastefully done.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:15 a.m. CST

    wow well done

    by Mr.Slade

    this is such an awsome way to pay tribute, three major actors putting aside their egos to recognize a truly talented actor. hopefully it is the end of gilliams curse

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:27 a.m. CST


    by BonerDonor


  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:28 a.m. CST

    What a beautiful metaphor already...

    by s00p3rm4n

    Goes into a mirror and becomes someone else? I'm a sucker for Terry Gilliam, curse and all.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:28 a.m. CST


    by BonerDonor


  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:29 a.m. CST


    by BonerDonor

    babies makin babies!

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:30 a.m. CST

    This Just Makes Me Relly Happy

    by Mr. Winston

    I mean...that's just great. It's sad that something like Ledger's death had to happen, but damn if you can't count on a really clever filmmaker to find a way to honor him in the aftermath. I hope to God this works out - not only does Heath deserve it, but Terry does too. Bravo.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:34 a.m. CST

    I'm loving the idea

    by hegele

    Anything to salvage the man's last performance.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:42 a.m. CST

    will farrell whp out his dick

    by bacci40

    and get his pubes caught in the camera? the fucker is a great actor, but cant make a sex vid worth surprised he got any poon after that boring piece of shite hit the net...and jude law should still play ozymandius...the dude was born for that role

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:45 a.m. CST

    vote obama....let depp move back to america

    by bacci40

    nuff said

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:46 a.m. CST

    Not Jude Law! Get someone interesting!

    by darrenspool

    Colin Farrell? Who knows, but what about Will Smith or Hayden Christensen?

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:50 a.m. CST

    I'm not so sure


    Even if it fits within the context of the script, it just seems wrong for them to do this. <p> a part of me feels like it's being done for all the wrong reasons but then I have to keep in mind this is hollywood. Money needs to be made.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:51 a.m. CST

    WILL Ferrell had a sex tape?

    by PirateEmery

    Really, bacci40? What an unbelievably embarrassing typo...

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:51 a.m. CST

    Jude Law is fantastic is two roles and will forever get a pass f

    by Kirbymanly

    1) A.I. 2) Closer

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST

    Oh come on. Law and Farrell?

    by DerLanghaarige

    Two of the worst actors that are running around at the moment?

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 2:19 a.m. CST

    I like this list.

    by Knuckleduster

    They're all decent actors.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 3 a.m. CST

    SPOILER: in the end, he just does alot of coke

    by TallBoy66

    and people say its an overdose of perscription drugs.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 3:03 a.m. CST

    Sounds good

    by newc0253

    only hope that Gilliam makes it work this time.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Slippery slope

    by Pipple

    It could very well seem like a sleazy attempt to cash in on his current boost in fame post-death. I'm curious how they'll market it. Judging by current marketing trends, they'll push it as the final performance of beloved actor bla bla bla... that's the business.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 3:16 a.m. CST

    I'm excited that this film is back on

    by Mullah Omar

    But I'm not excited about Farrell and Law. <br> <br> I'll gladly take the bad with the good, however.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 3:28 a.m. CST

    PirateEmery...rofl...i just reread the header

    by bacci40

    god, im such a tool

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 4:10 a.m. CST

    It really sounds kinda desperate...

    by Tourist

    ...And I don't think it will work that well. But damn, if it does work, god has a really funny way of shining on Gilliam.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 4:11 a.m. CST

    viva Terry Gilliams!

    by pipergates

    thats an amazing cast he's assembled, cant wait to see Tom Waits as the devil.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Should have been Depp, Christian Bale, and...someone else intere

    by Sledge Hammer

    Brad Pitt maybe. Or even Robin Williams. Someone with past Gilliam experience who gets his sensibilities, and is capable of delivering the goods. Farrell is okay I guess, at least when he's invested in a role, but Law really is kinda bland most of the time. Still, at least they've managed to save Ledger's final bow, so that's something at least.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 4:41 a.m. CST

    That's just fantastic fucking news

    by IndustryKiller!

    My money is already in the Parnassus bank.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 4:48 a.m. CST

    Good choices.

    by TattooedBillionaire

    I think Law is a very good actor.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 5 a.m. CST

    Experiment 626...

    by drew mcweeny

    ... great nick, BTW. <P>I agree with you on TIDELAND. I didn't review it when it came out... no one ever screened it for me, and it played a theater I hate in LA, and then I didn't see the DVD for a while. And when I finally saw it... I loved it. Great Gilliam film. Dark and sweet and strange and sad.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Depp...ok, but I don't like Farrell or Law

    by Avon

    I'm sure they'll do a decent enough job, but I hate the both of them, especially Farrell. My choices: Christian Bale and Jake Gylenhall

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 6:23 a.m. CST


    by Tourist

    ...Was kind of a sad experience for me. The guy finally got the control and choices he wanted...and it was beyond bad. I don't know, hes been fucked with so much, its hard to say if hes lost whatever he had, or just going through an extended rough patch. While it might be good news that hes got a big replacement cast together, it doesn't really mean hes getting a fair shake at what he set out to do, so if it doesn't work, its not really his fault again. Be nice to just see him get a smooth ride on something.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 6:48 a.m. CST

    Colin Farrell on a Gilliam film..?

    by Aethyrr

    That's odd. To say the least.

  • After the unwatchable messes of Brothers Grimm and Tideland, I think it best that Gilliam joins the Zemeckis and Dante table of directors whose best is far beyond them.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST


    by jimbubble

    Tideland was an amazingly daring film,touching on the taboo and a world where other directors fear to tread! Thank fuck for Gilliam in this overly PC world we live in!

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    Critch you will eat your words!

    by TheDudeinLA

    Armchair quarterback! What have you ever done?

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST

    Jude Law? Shouldn't it be Gylenhaal and Bale?

    by messi

    Jude Law fucking sucks ass.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 9:10 a.m. CST

    I like depp and ferrel

    by dr sauch

    but Jude Law? I dunno. I really think it should have been Gylenhal.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    This is getting picked up in the news everywhere

    by Eyeoneverything

    On, /Film, etc....

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    add me as another...

    by blackthought

    who loved tideland. go gilliam go!

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 9:47 a.m. CST

    Sounds cool

    by moviemaniac-7

    Now make the damn movie, Terry. It's about time!

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST

    I hope to, but I doubt it

    by critch

    I wasn't aware I had to be a director to know bad movies. Might as well shut this site down as I'm pretty damn sure 99.999% of the talkbackers never worked on a movie in their life. Gilliam comes across anymore as a third-rate Tim Burton or Guillermo Del Toro, someone trying to make a distinctive style but failing miserably. Brothers Grimm was disgusting and cruel, with evil people with horrible french accents throwing kittens into shredders. Tideland was so bad that it didn't get a release even in independent theatres. Fate itself keeps trying to keep Gilliam from making movies (Don Quixote, this Ledger thing) and I wish he would listen. We're at the point now where I'd rather see a Uwe Boll movie.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST

    I dont know about "interesting" choices...

    by RockLobster800

    I mean these are the guys who are suggested for every role Hollywood has going-"who should be the Riddler?" "Jude Law! colin farrell! johnny depp!" "who should be in Watchmen?" "Jude Law for Ozy! Farrell for the comedian! depp for manhattan!" " "who should play howard in the howard the duck remake?" "jude law, colin farrell, johnny depp!"....I mean it still could be a great flick, but these three names hardly sound like Terry was looking through the yellow pages too throughly for a replacment...

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    No Shy LeBeef?

    by Cletus Van Damme


  • Feb. 15, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    Tideland is a really good movie...

    by MrGreenStache

    What is wrong with some retard love?

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST


    by drbenway59

    ... I hated Brothers Grimm and Tideland... But you have no idea what you're talking about. It doesn't take a director to recognize a bad movie, but it does take someone with half a brain who's seen more than a half-dozen films in their life-time.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 10:54 a.m. CST


    by ArcadianDS

    The snarky slams against Ledger's death are SO TIMELY AND FRESH.<p> You fail it (it is being fresh and witty).

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST

    Or Daniel Day-Lewis?

    by riskebiz

    The guy who gave the most public outpouring of emotion for Heath should be approached to step into this role.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Dig Gilliam, even his last two

    by hktelemacher

    And come on - "Brothers Grimm was disgusting and cruel, with evil people with horrible french accents throwing kittens into shredders" - You know I've yet to see a better endorsement of that movie. I saw Grimm in theaters and wasn't blown away but I really became fond of it during it's lengthy cable run and was able to enjoy it with my kids who dug the hell out of it. Kitten shredding notwithstanding the 'dark' elements were no more disturbing than classic Disney, and along with Stardust I thought it was the only family fantasy movie lately that even approached that kind of sensibility. Tideland was amazing - a complete tonal 180 from Grimm yet still very much a fairy tale. I'm quite excited for Parnassus. I felt a little guilty that when the news of Ledger's death broke my first thought was "Can Gilliam not catch a break or what?"

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 12:13 p.m. CST

    not knowing anything about the script

    by chiahead

    i'm still going to go ahead and throw this out there... three excellent actors to be sure. But... why think so much in the box? It seems kind of like a missed opportunity to have gone the way of "other hunky white dudes" to pay homage. Why not cast Taye Diggs, Dakota Fanning or someone completely off the scale?

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    IS THIS 100% CONFIRMED?.........

    by Neon Killer

    I'm not so sure............aicn?

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Holy Shit

    by Bobo_Vision

    You've got my money. I trust Johnny Depp when it comes to choosing projects, and now I'm looking forward to this.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    I'm calling BS on this

    by Vitiare

    Moriarty, explain how you know this. This is just too fantastic to believe. Are the actors working on the film for free? Depp's salary has got to be more than the total cost of the entire production, not to mention Law and Ferell. It just too hard to believe until I hear someone else confirm this.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:07 p.m. CST

    This is awesome news! and tideland

    by Kloipy

    Love me some Gilliam. I absolutely loved Tideland. I can understand how some people hate it, but for me it was like a fucking dream. It had the dark humor that I love, the typical Gilliam stuff that's always welcome, Jeff Bridges, and it was sad as hell too. I mean the last minute or so is something so moving that I haven't seen in a while. Just love that film so much

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:09 p.m. CST

    Depp and Gilliam are friends, Vitiare

    by Kloipy

    I'm sure Depp doesn't mind helping out a friend in need.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Just watched Brazil again the other night

    by Kloipy

    and that movie was 20 years ahead of it's time. What a beautiful and scary film that is. And by God if it doesn't have the best ending of all time

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST

    Some of you are fucking retards.

    by s00p3rm4n

    "Money needs to be made." What the fuck? You're completely missing the point of this. You are on a planet upon which the point does not exist, where the forces of physics like gravity do not apply, and where Hannah Montana and Miley Cyrus are the two-headed Cerberus-like gatekeeper of what is good and bad!<br><br> The point of this, obviously, is for an artist (Terry Gilliam) paying respect to a dead artist (Heath Ledger) using the character that dead artist was bringing to life. It's a wonderful metaphor and a brilliant artistic choice, not a grab for money. You really think Terry Gilliam is in the movie business for the fucking money? Have you HEARD of Terry Gilliam?<br><br> Some of you really need to be cockpunched - and yes, you naysayers are so monumentally unempathetic and artless that I can safely say you're males. Why you post on a site dedicated to movies is utterly fucking beyond me, and I weep for the fact that you will never have the joy of enjoying any art that asks questions or aims for anything more than being mediocre and loud.<br><br> Kloipy - I'm going to netflix Tideland on your recommendation. Does netflix have the "right" DVD or the "wrong" one? There was that brouhaha over aspect ratio, I remember. <i>Brazil</i> is so sad to watch now. It's like watching <i>Network</i> - both are movies were totally hypothetical dystopic comedies (in different genre outfits) but play like fucking documentaries now.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:27 p.m. CST

    I think Matt Damon could have been good too.

    by myspoonistoobig

    I felt he was horribly miscast in Grimm but something about this project makes me think he'd be better suited to it.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:30 p.m. CST

    Johnny Depp as THE JOKER

    by The Chosen

    I want to believe i wasn't the only one to consider this. We know the Joker doesn't die at the end of DK. We know he was planned to be at the sequel. Am I dreaming too far? Is it that impossible? Depp could just imitate, or evolve from what the genius of Ledger made at the Joker (from what we see on the trailer). Am i alone?

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:33 p.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    Not sure about the netflix version. Just letting you know ahead of time that I'm a HUGE Gilliam fan, and I know some people who like him as much as I do who hated Tideland. I just happened to think it was incredible. As many people have said it is unfettered Gilliam which to me is wonderful, I just hope you dig it as much as I do

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    What about Daniel Day Lewis?

    by Despacio

    After his dedication to Ledger at the SAG awards that actually sounded like a genuine thank you speech, I thought for sure he'd be a lock for this project. Oh well, would have been a thousand times better than Farrel or Law.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:50 p.m. CST


    by Gungan Slayer

    wow, that's awesome. I can't wait to see how it turns out. Plus it has christopher plummer in it too!

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    I thought...

    by Tourist

    ...Tideland was the melding of a great book to a director who was wrong for it in every single way. Plus making an entire film of dutch angles hasn't been cool...ever...Except maybe for a week back in the eighties. Its Gilliams thing though. Brothers Grimm on the other hand, should have been the perfect concept for him, but it was just butt plundered every which way. Dude cant catch a break.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Wow, the Gilliam defense force is out in force.

    by critch

    Had no idea this guy even had a following. Looking through his filmography, The last good thing that he even touched was Twelve Monkeys, and even that was awkward. I think I'd attach that label to everything I've seen of his, essentially his entire library. His movies usually are disjointed, not sure what style to be in, and of course weird. But it's not weird in a appealing or a good way. Terry Gilliam is a horribly mediocre director that was held in fair renown at one point but hasn't made a movie worth making in over a decade, and even before that was hit and miss. I guess it's another example of how this website, and the internet beyond, works. If you make good movies that are popular, you're reviled and called a horrible director. If you make quirky movies that fail, you're beloved.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    just because the failed for YOU tourist

    by Kloipy

    doesn't mean that the director is bad. I think you just hate Gilliam.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 2:43 p.m. CST

    uh.. not every actor is available at the ring of a phone

    by ArcadianDS

    Daniel Day Lewis, from what I gather, is a pretty popular guy among movie makers these days. Its quite possible that he, along with countless others, are simply not available right now for this film.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST

    Sounds good

    by CherryValance

    I picked other people but those are all fine actors. I'm glad it's going forward.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST

    The Joker

    by Sithdan

    It seems like everyone's really lauding Ledger's performance of the Joker. Isn’t a little premature, considering the movie is still months away from being released? I don't know, but from what I've seen in the previews, I have a feeling that Jack Nicholson will still be the consummate cinematic Joker. Ledger's portrayal of the Clown Prince of Crime seems just too much on the macabre side for my taste. This is not Stephen King's It or Clown House. It's supposed to be about a comic book superhero. Everyone says Ledger's Joker captures Bob Kane and Bill Finger's original vision of the character, but I just don't see it. What's with the crappy makeup job on the Joker in The Dark Knight anyway? Talk about an anachronism. The comic book Joker character isn't painted, he's physically scarred. Based on what I've seen, the whole Dark Knight thing is going for shock value with this Joker. But, I’ll reserve any further judgment until I see the movie.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Brazil, Frea And Loathing, and Twelve Monkeys are anything but

    by Lovecraftfan

    mediocre. I didn't like his last two films but Gilliam is not a medicre director.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST


    by s00p3rm4n

    Your troll-fu is weak, especially since you're the sole member of the anti-Gilliam offense. Go back to Troll U.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST

    This whole scenario makes me really happy.

    by Traumnovelle

    Heath Ledger's final film (I think...right?) gets to finish production, a handful of really great (some better than others, but lets not nitpick) get an awesome way to pay tribute to Heath, and Terry Gilliam finally gets a fucking break and hopefully knocks this shit out of the park and has a bonafide HIT on his hands. It's slightly morose, but this movie will probably make a ton of money seeing how it was one of Heath's final projects, and that it got some really popular actors on board to help finish it. Good things CAN happen sometimes. I'm so very excited for this. That promo image of the Parnassus stage is incredibly beautiful.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Gilliam is anything but mediocre

    by redfishbluefish

    Call his movies crazy and haphazard or insightful and visionary all you want, they are all of those things. mediocre they are not. i am thrilled this project is going forward and in such a thoughtful way. kudos.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Could've have been braver

    by albermarle

    What's interesting about Colin Farrell? They should have gone for someone totally different from Ledger not got a bland youngish actor to replace an excellent youngish actor. Same goes for Jude Law. If only Gilliam could have coaxed Sean Connery out of retirement...

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Dunno why they still give Gillam money

    by Spoiler_Man

    Dont all his movie fail?

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 5:05 p.m. CST

    Dunno why they still give Gillam money

    by Spoiler_Man

    Dont all his movies fail?

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 5:24 p.m. CST

    I love Gilliams personal projects the most...

    by L. Ron Bumquist

    like Munchausen and Brazil. Glad this one has been saved. But what do I know, I liked Tideland. Could do without Jude Law though, yuck.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Sithdan Read some Comics dumb cunt

    by messi

    Based more on Killing Joke, too macabre? That's what the Joker is. and if you think Nicholson's joker will 'still' be the definitive Joker when that sentence doesn't even make sense, then give your eyes and ears to people who deserve them.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 5:59 p.m. CST

    That's really really great

    by Charlie Murphy

    good for them.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    I never liked Colin Farrell...

    by DanielKurland

    until Cassandra's Dream. Fantastic job in it.

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST

    This sounds like great news...


    Which means, given Gilliam's track record for good luck recently, this will fall apart within a week...

  • Feb. 15, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Ah Gilliam. His movie won't make any sense

    by skywalkerfamily


  • Feb. 16, 2008, 3:57 a.m. CST

    Wow, three high calibre and serious actors who are very hip

    by theycallmemrglass

    This is quite a team and a great tribute to Heath.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST

    make the lead character CG and do digitally removal

    by livingwater

    a working solution : that is what I would do

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 7:54 a.m. CST

    not so sure about Jude Law

    by purplepurple

    but I trust Gilliam. This should be a very special movie indeed.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 9:06 a.m. CST

    Were Cate Blanchett, Richard Gere and Marcus Carl Franklin unava

    by Johnny Smith

    Okay, bad joke. How about Bob Dylan? But seriously, I'm very, very happy about this. Good on Terry for doing this, and good on the studio for letting him.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 9:52 a.m. CST

    Why Depp?

    by DoctorWho?

    Doesn't have the chops these other guys do. Should be Bale or Gylenhall. Box office draw I imagine. I just stumbled upon Charlie and the Chocolate Factory on comercial tv a couple nights ago. That performance proves Depp is the most singular insipid actor working today. Burtons worst film too. Astonishingly hollow performance and film. Blech!

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST


    by Bobo_Vision

    You're a moron. Depp has never been an actor synonomous with box office draw because he has consistently chosen roles that were well crafted, but not mainstream enough for the masses.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST

    Bobo vision

    by DoctorWho?

    Thanks for the insult. Yeah, your right. Pirates of the Carribean was a just too deep for the masses. No one starts out with 'box office draw'...the point is he HAS IT NOW and for more than a few years now. I didn't realize being nominated for an Oscar not 'mainstream'. He's quite the 'outsider'.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    The Chosen...

    by DoctorWho?

    Dear God man, bite your tounge!!

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST


    by Sithdan

    I've read "The Killing Joke" but didn't really care for it. It was too over-the-top for my tastes. Plus, isn't "The Dark Knight" contradicting the comics anyway by presenting the Joker with makeup instead of scars? He could at least start out as the Red Hood to stay faithful with the source material. Nicholson's Joker will always be the best. In 15 years, Ledger will be long forgotten.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 4:33 p.m. CST

    Nicholson's Joker SUCKED ASS!

    by batzilla

    Get real people. Nicholson's Joker was Nicholson acting like Nicholson in Joker make up and nothing more. Ledger can act and his Joker will be FANTASTIC! Jack hasn't acted in a movie in years. He is so fucking overrated.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Jack hasn't acted in a movie in years?

    by skywalkerfamily

    I don't know what you're saying there. The Bucket List came out last month and is doing quite well. Jack never acts like Jack if you've seen him in interviews. It's called acting, dumbass.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 7:13 p.m. CST

    Jack Nicholson is overrated.

    by sweet princess

    Damned true. He´s not like Marlon Brando, Johnny Depp, Cate Blanchett, Daniel Day Lewis, Gary Oldman or Heath Ledger. This actors use to be gripped by their roles, but this is not Nicholson´s case. He is not that kinda actor. Nicholson has a unique charisma, and he use it over and over again in every role. But charisma alone is not enough.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 7:24 p.m. CST

    Never mention Depp in the same breath as Oldman...

    by DoctorWho?

    Brando,Lewis. I think Matt Damon is a far better 'actor' than Depp...though maybe not as charismatic...and has much more range. That being said I'd never rate him along side Oldman,Brando et al. Depp has the range of a daisy air-rifle. He's good...has a Nicholson. But please...a little perspective here people.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Depp is more overrated than Nicholoson

    by skywalkerfamily

    Depp has one or two decent films in his list, but Jack has many more.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 7:56 p.m. CST

    by sweet princess

    LOL. OK. If you say so, Doctor Who... *sarcasm*

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 9:53 p.m. CST

    wait wait wait, Damon a better actor than Depp?

    by BadMrWonka

    I mean, I like the guy, and he's better than people give him credit for, but Depp has much more range. look at his flawless accent work, the way he can go from completely understated (Finding Neverland) to way over the top (Pirates, Don Juan de Marco) to everything in between. Edward Scissorhands was one of the best PHYSICAL performances ever. fuck, he almost turned me gay in Chocolat!<p>you're out of your mind if you think Johnny Depp isn't one of the best out there currently.

  • Feb. 16, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST


    by DoctorWho?

    Courage Under Fire: Matt Damon's performance in that is stellar. That is the kind of acting Depp could never get close to. Or even the emotional range in Good Will Hunting...Depp has never shown THAT kind of vulneralbility. Edaward Scissor Hands? Lots of style, sure...and make up too.And since when is 'over the top' good acting? Or proficiency in accents for that matter? I don't dislike Depp...but as we all know there are actors and there are movie stars. Depp is a star.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 2:35 a.m. CST

    DiCaprio is better than Damon

    by skywalkerfamily

    Damon always has this steely glare all the time. DiCaprio shows range.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 5:17 a.m. CST

    The people who claim Depp...

    by Bobo_Vision a movie star and a box office draw, etc., are the people who only watch mass audience films and only came to notice Depp when he became bankable. His roles in films like The Libertine, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, The Man Who Cried, and Blow demonstrate his range and talent, and his more notable roles in Edward Scissorhands, POTC, and recently Sweeney Todd demonstrate that he can take a role which most actors would turn into a dark and barely watchable performance, and he gives them life and humanity turning them into his most popular characters. Plus, he pulled off singing in a musical with aplomb. So look, anyone who claims he's one of the worst actors out there is simply a moron. There's no other way to say it.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 7:28 a.m. CST


    by messi

    Nicholson's Joker isn't even The Joker so shut the fuck up. The Joker is a psychopath who will kill Children for laughs and by shooting someone can feel it like a religious experience. Watch the Dark Knight Prologue. That is The Joker.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Depp isn't in that 'God' list of actors

    by messi

    only mainstream people see him like that, but they're the same people who never heard of Daniel Day-Lewis. The God actors. Day-Lewis, Christian Bale, Gary Oldman, Paddy Considine, Cate Blanchett, Marlon Brando, Robert DeNiro, Viggo Mortenson, Heath Ledger. Gods. Though DeNiro does his best to make me forget it, goddamn make a good movie already. Holy shit, 3 of them are in The Dark Knight. And 3 of them haven't even been nominated for an Academy Award...yet George Clooney has....More than once??? Fuck life.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 7:46 a.m. CST

    thank you Bobo

    by Kloipy

    I was waiting for someone to mention Fear and Loathing. Depp's work in that film in incredible. I mean it got the Criterion treatment so I think that says something.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    re re: nicholson

    by sweet princess

    He used to be awesome in his early carrer. Then I stopped watching his films cause he became a lazy motherfucker. So, I didn´t watch that movie, but I will. If his using his whole potential as he used to, good for him.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    sweet princess about Nicholson

    by Kloipy

    I disagree. Has anyone seen about shmidt? He was wonderful in that movie

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    by sweet princess

    OK. I´m agree with Coppola. "Filmmaker Francis Ford Coppola has accused Jack Nicholson of putting his love of money before his career. The Godfather director is disappointed Nicholson has halted his acting career in favor of enjoying a luxury lifestyle with a string of beautiful women - because he believes it is a waste of talent. Coppola says, "I think if there was a role that (Robert) De Niro was hungry for, he would come after it. I don't think Jack would. Jack has money and influence and girls, and I think he's a little bit like (Marlon) Brando, except Brando went through some tough times. I guess they don't want to do it anymore."

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    Where in the comic

    by Sithdan

    Does it state that the Joker paints his face with makeup and nothing more? That's my biggest complaint about this upcoming version of the Joker. Plus, I really just don't see a gay cowboy playing one of the most iconic villains of all time. Not the best casting job in my opinion. Nope. Jack will always be the Joker in my book.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 1:25 p.m. CST


    by Evil Lincoln

    Sorry, I'm just busting your chops! I couldn't resist!

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 1:26 p.m. CST

    *ALMOST* even

    by Evil Lincoln

    This damn keyboard is giving me the red ass!

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    DoctorWho? vs Johnny Depp

    by Mako

    It's subjective DW. You say Depp doesn't show THAT kind of vulneralbility (referring to Damon) but I seem to recall that kind of vulneralbility in a little film called "What's Eating Gilbert Grape?"

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 6:46 p.m. CST

    Depp gets by on looks

    by vieri32

    Depp is a good actor but not a great actor. Isnt everyone tired of him doing bad english accents in Victorian period pieces ( Finding Neverland,Sleepy Hollow,From Hell,Sweeney Todd). He always is hiding behing makeup and costumes and everyone raves about his performances and how different he is. Great actors dont have tohide behind makeup and costumes. He's a good actor but everyone elevates him to great because the girls love him and the guys want to have his personal style.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 9:09 p.m. CST

    Jealous much?

    by Bobo_Vision

    Depp was dealt a good hand in the looks department. Deal with it. But he was never one to play up his looks. He has consistently turned down romantic leads and "bonbon" roles, as he calls them, and he despised being made into a poster boy when on 21 Jumpstreet so he gave all that up and pursued decent roles, no matter the risk. He did this at a time before independent films with originality became avant garde and had any merit.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 9:10 p.m. CST

    3 movie stars pay tribute to an actual actor?

    by Prossor

    will they have the range???

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 9:18 p.m. CST

    Independent films were avant garde before Depp.

    by vieri32

    Im just stating that Depp is a good looking guy and also seems like a cool guy in real life and thus people,critics go easy on him, when crtiquing his performances. You have to admit that he does a bad english accent and that he does tend to hide behind make-up and costumes alot.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST


    by messi

    So because Nicholson's Joker fell in a vat of chemicals that somehow makes him The Joker. You are one dumb motherfucker. Ledger's Joker is a real version of The Joker, a psychopath. Not the out there uncle Nicholson's was. Most people on this site think the same.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 9:55 p.m. CST

    We'll have to agree to disagree

    by Bobo_Vision

    Actually, many people have been pretty rough on Depp, and studios have been somewhat weary of him until he made POTC, citing him as being too weird. There's a whole sleugh of roles between Scissorhands and Captain Jack (about a 13 year period) for which he got little or no acclaim, yet they were phenomenally performed. As for make-up and costumes, I don't think he has done so more than most character actors (like Gary Oldman), but he's done it more than moviestars like Matt Damon or Harrison Ford who get paid for their star power and to show their face, and I think he's pretty good at accents.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 11:50 p.m. CST

    Wow, people pissilng on these actors and Director.

    by Mundungus

    Although Gilliam has yet to live up to what kind of work I expected after Time Bandits and Brazil, I would never call him a sub parr director. <p> And all of these actors are great, I even grudgingly give Farrel the nod. I won't bother to list the acoomplishments of each, save to mention Law in "A.I." I'm really looking foreward to Law and Caine in "Sleuth". <p> I've always failed to see why people bolster and attack actors, directors, and musicians like they were football teams. It seems fine to be a fan of somebody's work, but this bitterness spewed out at others we may not be the biggest fans of is kinda strange. As if their success deminishes the value of one's taste and sensibilities. Like if I'm not a Heath Ledger fan, his Oscar nomination just stings my ego a bit (just an example, not the reality). But if my guy gets the gold ring, then I in turn am superior by proxy. Strange.

  • Feb. 17, 2008, 11:51 p.m. CST

    yup, pissilng, I said it.

    by Mundungus

  • Feb. 18, 2008, 5:48 a.m. CST

    Good to see you guys get an exclusive.

    by Kragmose

    One that matters, even

  • Feb. 18, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST


    by Sithdan

    Just because the majority of a group has an opinion about a certain movie doesn't mean that I have to agree with it. How many "out there" uncles get their kicks by spraying flesh-eating acid on people's faces? Jack's Joker was insane enough.

  • Feb. 18, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST

    Brillinat move ...

    by Luscious.868

    But will the movie be any good? I either love Gilliam's stuff or completely fucking hate it. It's an interesting ride every time.

  • Feb. 18, 2008, 8:57 a.m. CST

    Sounds like this has real potential...

    by Jonah Echo

    I love Gilliam. Brazil is definitely one of my all time favorite movies. Probably in the top ten. I also really love Time Bandits, Twelve Monkeys and Munchausen though I know some don't. Fisher King was also great. I even liked Grimm. I still havent seen tideland but sounds like it is time to remedy that. Oddly enough, the only Gilliam flick I didnt care for was Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. I actually thought Thompson's work and Gilliam's stuff didn't really mesh, even though I would have always thought that to have been the case. One of the nice things about Grimm, shoddy cgi and odd pacing aside, was Ledger's performance. I think he sold me on his character far more than Damon, who seemed sort of lost in the whole affair.

  • Feb. 18, 2008, 11:49 a.m. CST

    President Evil

    by Sithdan

    I couldn't agree more. I thought I was the only one who had those sentiments. I just don't see Heath Ledger as the Joker. I would have rather seen William DaFoe in the role.

  • Feb. 18, 2008, 1:13 p.m. CST


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  • Feb. 19, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    I think Depp will do a fantastic Ledger

    by JacksParasites

    He's got the body shape and always gives 150% into his performances. I totally see this. Jude would be pretty good too. This sounds awesome.

  • Feb. 19, 2008, 1:39 p.m. CST

    President Evil and Sithdan

    by messi

    Both fuck yourselves. Watch the Prologue, look at the way he moves, every little thing is brilliant.

  • Feb. 19, 2008, 5:59 p.m. CST

    What if the movie sucks ass?

    by skywalkerfamily

    Will it be a travesty in the stellar Heath resume?

  • Feb. 19, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    Who Should Play The Joker In The Next Batman Movie?

    by Barron34

    THE DARK KNIGHT is going to be a smash hit, and so there will be another Bat-Sequel. Therefore, there will probably be a need to re-cast the role of the Joker. Who would be a good replacement for Heath Ledger? A name that struck me was Joaquin Phoenix. I think he is physically right for the role, could put his own mark ont he character without being a wild departure from Ledger's work on the character. What do you think?

  • Feb. 19, 2008, 7:39 p.m. CST

    Nolan makes the right move...

    by DoctorWho?

    ...NOT to kill off the main villan, and then the actual actor tragically leaves us. For the sake of not fucking it up, he should just go a different route (though the idea of someone like The Penguin makes me cringe)or end the franchise right here and now with a little dignity. I don't want to see his version of Spidey 3. These movies are way too good!

  • Feb. 20, 2008, 8:55 a.m. CST


    by Sithdan

    I would actually like to see the Penguin character done right on the big screen. I really hated how he was portrayed in Batman Returns as a sort of sideshow freak. The Penguin could be like this big crime boss who owns half of Gotham City (kind of like Lex Luther's status in Metropolis) and has the entire police force in his pocket. By the way, check out this photo of the Two-Face toy:

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