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WGA To Vote Tuesday On
Whether To End Strike!!
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Screenwriters could be back to work as early as Wednesday.
From tomorrow's Hollywood Reporter:
The Writers Guild East council and Writers Guild West board have voted to approve a new labor contract and are sending it to the guild membership for a ratification vote, officials on both coasts said Sunday.
The vote will be conducted via mail ballot and at special meetings on a date to be determined, it said.
The two WGA bodies voted to end the strike upon a majority vote of the membership, with that vote set for Tuesday.
Read all of the Reporter’s story on the matter here.
TV Guide's Michael Ausiello has a timetable for when your favorite show might return here.
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Sorry, had to.
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the second half of BSG season 4 will be ready by 2010.
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Thats what I wanna know!
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Although, I heard late night writers were coming back then too. But because of the 48 hour window, Wednesday would be the earliest? Keep us updated on Late Night, Herc! Stewart/Colbert '088
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A full season of Lost, maybe?
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the strike is indeed over...the question remains what happens come june with sag...if there are any sag members here who have read the details of the agreement, are you guys willing to sign something comparable?
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They had an article in EW about how quickly these shows could get up and running again if the strike is solved this week. Show like The Office could start up relatively quick and but shows like Heroes etc would only be able to make around 3 "quality" episodes, so they would probably wait until fall to starting airing it again. 24 has 8 episodes in the can but so far it looks like they will hold off at least till the fall to start running them, but they may even wait until next january...
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He's Evvvvvillllll!!!
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How awesome would that be? TV is a frickin wasteland in June/July/August. Just do that!
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Hey, I gotta take a dump! Vote!
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24 Returns either this Fall or January '09. 30 Rock 5-10 new episodes to air in April/May. Back to You Two pre-strike episodes remain. Future TBD. Bionic Woman Cancelled. The Big Bang Theory 5-7 new episodes to air in April/May. Big Love Expected to go into production on Season 3 in March. Airdate info is TBD. Bones Four pre-strike episodes left. Unclear whether additional episodes will be produced for this season. Brothers & Sisters 4-5 new episodes to air in April/May. Chuck No new episodes until fall. Cold Case 4-7 new episodes to air in April/May. Criminal Minds 4-7 new episodes to air in April/May. CSI 4-7 new episodes to air in April/May. CSI: Miami 4-7 new episodes to air in April/May. CSI: NY 4-7 new episodes to air in April/May. Desperate Housewives 4-5 new episodes to air in April/May. Dirty Sexy Money No new episodes planned until fall. The three remaining pre-strike episodes will undergo some tweaking and kick off fall run. ER TBD. Everybody Hates Chris Twelve pre-strike episodes remain. No additional episodes expected for this season. Friday Night Lights No new episodes expected for this season. Future TBD. Gossip Girl Up to 9 new episodes to air in April/May/June. Grey's Anatomy 4-5 new episodes to air in April/May Heroes TBD. House 4-6 new episodes to air in April/May. How I Met Your Mother 5-7 new episodes to air in April/May. Jericho Seven episodes remain. No additional episodes expected for this season. Las Vegas Three pre-strike episodes remain. No additional episodes expected for this season. Law & Order: SVU TBD. Life No new episodes expected until fall. Life Is Wild Cancelled. Lost Six pre-strike episodes remain. Six additional episodes could air this season. Medium Six pre-strike episodes remain. No additional episodes expected this season. Men in Trees Eleven pre-strike episodes remain. No additional episodes expected this season. Moonlight No new episodes expected until fall. My Name Is Earl 8-10 new episodes to air in April/May. NCIS 5-7 new episodes, only three of which may air this season. The New Adventures of Old Christine Seven pre-strike episodes remain. No additional episodes expected this season. Nip/Tuck Season 5 concludes Feb. 19. Production on the show's eight-episode sixth season expected to start up this summer. Airdate TBD. Numbers 5-7 new episodes, only three of which may air this season. October Road Five pre-strike episodes remain. Future beyond that TBD. The Office 5-10 new episodes to air in April/May. One Tree Hill Six pre-strike episodes remain. Future beyond that TBD. Prison Break Two pre-strike episodes remain. Future beyond that TBD. Private Practice 4-5 new episodes to air in April/May. Pushing Daisies No new episodes until fall. Reaper Three pre-strike episodes remain. Future beyond that TBD. Samantha Who? Three remaining pre-strike episodes could possibly surface this season, or be held until fall (see Dirty Sexy Money). Scrubs Four pre-strike episodes remain. Four additional episodes will likely be shot; unclear whether they'll air on NBC or go straight to DVD. Smallville Four pre-strike episodes remain. 3-5 additional episodes to air in April/May. Supernatural Two pre-strike episodes remain. 3-5 additional episodes to air in April/May. Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles Five pre-strike episodes remain. Future beyond that TBD. Two and a Half Men 5-7 new episodes to air in April/May. Ugly Betty 4-5 new episodes to air in April/May. Without a Trace 4-7 new episodes to air in April/May. Women's Murder Club No additional episodes expected for this season. Future TBD.
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Gah, that is hard to read. Can you post a tiny link, please?;
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Seriously, does anyone know if they will shoot more episodes of LOST?
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http://tinyurl.com/ytldet
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Thanks tinsel. 6 more COULD air? Any more information??
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I appreciate it.
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Ausiello talked to Lost producers and they said that if the strike ends this week, around 6 more episodes would be completed... Bringing the total for season 4 to 14 episodes instead of 16. But who knows, if motivated properly with quick completion, all 16 might get finished... wishful thinking, but again, who knows...
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go LOST!
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I know it's old news, but Ausiello says anywhere from 5 to 10 new "The Office" episodes would air as well as the possibility of 6 more "Lost" episodes.
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The membership will RUBBER STAMP the deal on Tuesday. Showrunners will be back to work tomorrow and staffwriters on Wednesday. This is a done deal, dude. Don't imply that it's prolonged by misleading headlines.
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Get it right, and take the time to improve on things.
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They still have like 8 episodes to do.
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Weird Scrub news though. Possibly direct to DVD? Why for? It's not like it's Firefly and didn't even have a full season...weird, I say.
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to get it right...come back in 3 months or 6, if kring is still the showrunner, the show will be lacking...and if it doesnt come back till the fall, they better have a bangup first arc storyline, or viewers will stay away in droves...i havent missed it in the slightest
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Otherwise it'll be reality tv crap fests till at least next Sept (depending on how long the upcomming actors/directors strike takes)
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Why shoot 6 and not 8? I know a lot of work goes into an episode but still, what's 2 more at that point? In for a penny, in for a pound. I'm sure those two will just be lumped onto season 5 but after waiting so damn long for season 4, it's sort of irritating.
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umm... slight correction for ya.. running thru the grapevine for the show, we may be back in a week or two for 4 more shows to run for May sweeps. Not concrete yet, but thats the rumors....
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THey might only shoot a certain number of episodes rather than a full seasons worth simply because there are a lot of actors that will probably be wanting to do films during the time that has already been schedualed as off season. Even if they don't have any film work schedualed most actor contracts state that they are free to do other work after a certain date. If they want to film after that cutoff date there will be lots of negotiations and bonus pay. So they will just film as much as they can until the pre-scheduled end of the filming season.
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Let's go for 11!
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And why did they run out of episodes way sooner than American Dad, Simpsons, and King of the Hill?
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with the dvd/blu-ray being taken off the table and the 17-24 day window of no compensation for internet content, the writers for late night and cable tv get nothing...i cant believe those guys werent screaming bloody murder during the meetings
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that's kinda pointless since if you read writer's blog, you'll see that they're all basically a bunch of sheep, going "let's wait and see how everyone else is voting before we decide". Just get someone to tell them "you can vote yes, all the cool kids are doing it", they'll fall for it
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Chuck, Pushing Daisies, and Dirty Sexy Money are all out until fall. At least Chuck ended on something of a moderate cliffhanger. 24 should figure out a way to tie up the threads they had hanging after 8 eps, and focus on delivering a great, solid 13-episode arc. If they can do that without it getting bloated and stupid, and have it segue into a new full season for next year, I'd be a happy guy. As it is, I find the seasons are getting too rambly and disjointed, telling one cohesive story better, even if it's shorter, would be a huge step up for the series.
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Would ideally air this summer.
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Yes, I'm watching the Grammys. Hurry back, writers!¿
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behind a crackhead who seems to want to race Shitney in a 'who can hit rock bottom fastest' competition. Amy fucking Winehouse? SERIOUSLY? Any goodwill she had when Back in Black came out, she just pissed away in the past 4 months or so. Go Kanye, Go Foo Fighters - ABA; Anybody But Amy.
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Many great musicians are/were drug addicts. The Grammys are ostensibly about the best musicians in the music industry. Not the "most clean cut" or "best behaved". Winehouse may be a crackhead, but have you actually listened to her album? She's got a great voice, regardless of what substances go in her body.
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Wow.
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That's when the SAG's contract expires. They were waiting to see if the writers' contract would be better than the directors' contract. Guess they didn't like the directors' contract and said they would be willing to ignore pattern bargining and strike if the writers' deal was at all like the directors'.
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Move along, nothing to see here; learn from the mistakes and do better next time.
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Sorry.
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Shit. She's gonna sweep. And the Grammys reinforce their irrelevance.
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the beatles never won a grammy...doesnt that tell you something? who wastes time watching this shite anyway?
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Feb. 10, 2008, 8:25 p.m. CST
It's either this or American Gladiators: The Cream and the Clear
by Pennsy
edition.
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Just keep any and all drug paraphernalia away from camera view, OK?
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And he beat a Clinton - Bill, in Best Spoken Word Album for "The Audacity Of Hope".
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im just rewatching arested development online...damn, its still a funny show, even the second time around...wait, they didnt give a grammy to super al? i thought he had all the awards sewn up...and obama has a great voice, if he doesnt make it to the presidency, he could get a job doing voice overs
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buzz is, sag members like the wga contract...doesnt look like there will be a sag strike come summer, so everyone's fav show is safe for the fall...too bad, i was hoping for more shitty reality crap
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The Worldwide Pants agreement the WGA brokered with them: http://tinyurl.com/32g59x <p> The tentative settlement: http://tinyurl.com/2sskef.
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Feb. 10, 2008, 9:54 p.m. CST
Come on, Kanye. Stop the crack whore from sweeping the thing.
by Pennsy
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Nooooooooooooooo, I have to wait another series of months before it comes on? This is the worst year ever.
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Meh. Kanye took it up the ass again.
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no wonder why the late nite guys are pissed...the interim agreement was a better deal for them
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it's a done deal - finally back to normal again
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George Lopez, who was on the Grammys for some reason(???), chose to spend his 30 seconds of stage time completely ripping off an old Dave Chappelle bit about a black president having a Mexican VP for "insurance." <br>The interesting thing? Lopez is friends with Joe Rogan who, not being at all funny or talented himself, spends all his time calling out other hacks for joke thievery. Anyone think Rogan will call out his buddy?
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didnt lopez pound that hack mencia for stealing almost his entire act?
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Perhaps the most surprising and salient observation I've heard from either side came from the CEOs of one of the Big Seven members of the AMPTP. In this town, it's all about relationships and trust. It's a cliche, fer sure, but it's true. To wit: "We'll never know" if the strike could have realistically been avoided, the honcho said. "I hope there are no lingering bad feelings. We want them to feel good about what they struck for and what they got. And let's keep a conversation going (outside of contract negotiations). If there's an issue that comes up, we can correct it midstream. Not everything has to be done in a (formal) contract negotiations. Let's have a level of trust that exists between us so that we don't get back into one of these all-or-nothing situations."....hahahahaha...like the level of trust that renegotiated the percentages on dvd and tape sales...or the level of trust that told everyone that the only reason streaming media existed was for promotional purposes...god, these rich guys slay me
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Didn't give it much of a chance when it first aired just because they called it "*WOMEN*"S Murder Club". I'm a bit of a ballbuster and wondered why they couldn't call it "Murder Club" without the distinction. However, it is rotation on cable now and I'm quite enjoying it. Same with "House" and "Bones". Never saw them regular schedule but they are quite interesting. Although, I still have a hard time seeing David Borantez anything other than a Vampire with a Soul. I just pretend he does that FBI thing on the side but the he goes back to Cordy and sings Barry Manilow with Krevlorynswath. Ù
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...at least that's what one of the producers was saying on tv...unless Fox forces them to come back earlier.<br><br>There was also an interview recently where they revealed the aborted "African" plot wasn't about any cool mission or something like that--it was about redemption for Jack. He was going to be doing charity work to soothe his soul!? Sounds like it would have been incredibly lame.
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yes, and no.
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Whatre they doing monday thats so damn important?
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At least we'll never have to worry about you joining the WGA. Shit, in comparison to your trite, uninformed meanderings, the writing on CAVEMAN is subtle sophisticated comedy.
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Just like that classic episode of THE SIMPSONS where the kids step out into the sun and start playing after Marge takes out Itchy & Scratchy, I've been able to catch up on lots of things without being tied down to a bunch of TV episodes. Books, graphic novels, DVD sets, concerts...Hell, the rest of the country actually became interested in the Presidential election. That's a good thing! <p>Sure, I'd love some fresh episodes of REAPER and additional episodes of LOST beyond the eight we're getting, but if that's the price of saving civilization from the return of the new BIONIC WOMAN series, GREY'S ANATOMY and DESPERATE HOUSEWIVES, so be it.</p> <p>Don't give up now, you WGA pussies!!!</p>
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That's all I need, Lost and Survivor and Stargate Atlantis take up all of my TV time. Nothing more needs to be made. Strike forever!
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You are brillant, you are. No on else can cut & paste like you. <p> I'll be looking forward to your TV show. I guessing it will be called "Cut & Paste". "Cut" will be the straight man and "Paste" tacks on the jokes, does he?ü
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That was well done and well thought. You should write professionally.... <p> hsssst....sorry about that. Forgot your stance. Well. <p> Cheers, then.
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how is it tv's fault if people spend all their time watching tv? you aren't forced to sit there and follow 56 series a week. i dont understand people who blame tv or even video games for people being lazy couch potatoes. you dont HAVE to spend 6000hrs a week on there, you CHOOSE to. but i guess people always need something to blame other than themselves.
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Feb. 11, 2008, 11:46 a.m. CST
Best thing about strike being over: Arrested Development Movie!!
by happybunni
Woo hoos!
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I'll go broader next time so you'll get it. <p> By the by, have you seen the Vince Wildy Westy Jokey talkback? It's an F5, it's so broad. Helen Hunt is drawing on tethers as we speak..
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and other basic cable fair, your guys got screwed by this deal...for some reason, the wga and the studios still see cable as being a non money maker, so the writers for cable programs are still getting a different percentage than network shows...and that is why taking dvd/blu-ray off the table is such a big deal....they may all vote to accept this contract, but look to a huge fracture withing the membership in the coming years
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As one who works as an editor in TV, I am quite glad this thing is over. But I have a question. Why does everyone always reference American Gladaitors as some sort of show that was put on because of the strike? This show was greenlit in April or May. Ben Silvermen had been wanting to do it for years. Strike or no strike, this show would still have aired. And Strike or no strike, it would have done just as well. Strike or no strike, shows like this are now a fixture in the future of TV. We all have to get used to it. And it's not like the show is bad. Stupid? Silly? Sure. But is it as terrible a a bad sitcom or shitty CSI clone. Nope
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...about the deal. I want to know what he thinks about it all, yes or no.
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read the agreement, and read the variety article...the cable writers get shafted...and maybe i mispoke...maybe they dont see them as nonmoney makers...but they are treating them as such
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"Why is cable programming lumped into the "other programs" column and doesn't get the same 2 percent of distributor's gross formula? The deal calls for all programs other than network primetime to be paid under the 3 percent of applicable minimum for the first two years, rising to 3.5 percent of the applicable minimum in the third year. This I'm not entirely clear about but I'm told that because cable license fees are still so much lower than for broadcast, the WGA's thinking was that the 3.5 percent of the applicable minimum would yield more for scribes than the 2 percent of distributor's gross." this is called screwey math...take the increase in dvd sales off the table, the cable scribes get screwed...
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Feb. 11, 2008, 2:04 p.m. CST
Found this tidbit interesting.. Writers got their residuals, but
by happybunni
"Several analysts have suggested that the strike will end with each side losing. Ratings at each of the networks except Fox are down substantially since the strike began, with advertisers being given rebates or "make goods" because of the ratings fall. Producers of scripted television shows have been informed by the networks that "efficiencies" are being instituted that in some cases will result in the networks skipping the pilot process. Networks often pay as much as $2 million to develop a pilot, only to decide later that it is unsuitable to develop into a series. Indeed, the networks are likely to cut back on scripted TV series in general after audiences demonstrated during the strike that they preferred many cheap game shows and reality series. With fewer pilots and scripted series in production, writers are likely to find work opportunities substantially curtailed. Moreover, while it had been presumed earlier that existing series whose production had been cut short by the strike would resume once it was settled, several reports cast doubt on whether marginally rated shows would return. It had previously been reported that Fox's 24 would be postponed for a year and that ABC's Lost would probably have its 16 episodes cut to 13 this season."
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what i was going to say is, true, but....you would think that the wga wouldnt use that new math to screw its own members...oh, and i just saw that whinehouse won for best new artist....WTF!!!!...i know that the grammy's are out of step with the times, but that is rediculous
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They were asking for reasonable, and got the illusion of something reasonable by the clueless suits. We'll be going through this all over again three years from now. The AMPTPtards would have caved if they had to miss their precious Oscars. Oh well. With more Lost and The Office, us as viewers win.
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kinda makes the words from that ceo i posted rather hollow...ratings were down for all the reality shows...and the networks are idiots, this isnt 88 where the choice of entertainment is limited...let them cut back...let them cut out the writers...some smart guy/girl with some start up caishe is gonna create his/her own independent online network and make out like a bandit...the infrastructure is in place, the ad revenue is there, the ability to feed your dsl into your tv monitor is there...bang, the networks are left to continued dwindling audiences...within 10 years, the studio system, the major networks and tv as we know it will all be dead and buried...so go ahead, punish the writers you stupid fucks
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after last weekend. City of Heroes had double XP weekend... <p> been some serious leveling up since the strike ensued <P> if they can go at least 3 more weeks with no new shows, I can knock out a few more levels!<P> did I just say that out loud? damn, I'm a geek!!
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Time to move forward with 'Death and Me'.Lukas Haas as Sexton and Anna Paquin as Death.....
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International movie awards. but its time to end the baftas.
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Feb. 11, 2008, 6:38 p.m. CST
As long as the WGA is happy with what their being offer I'm happ
by JungleJulia
Now let us all cross our fingers and hope SAG doesn't strike!
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there will not be another strike in 3 years...it took 20 to get to this place, even though the wga knew they were getting stiffed on video and dvd sales...the studios are now gonna stiff them by basically killing the rest of the season (there will not be first run shows this summer) and by limiting the amount of pilots made for next season.
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They should boot up 24 immediately.
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