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SWEEPS DAY SEVEN!! ‘More Complicated Girl Stuff!!’ Hercules Has Seen BUFFY 8.11!!
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I am – Hercules!!
Up early this morning, trying to secure lodging for Comic-Con online and by phone (tricky! frustrating!), so I was able the comic shop just after it opened at 11 a.m. By far the tallest stack of new comics, towering over even the new “Uncanny X-Men” and “Countdown to Final Crisis,” was “Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Season Eight #11.” So I guess it continues to sell well!
Eleven is scripted, like ten, by series mastermind Joss Whedon.
BEWARE SPOILERS:
* It’s Buffy’s birthday again.
* No Willow or Giles.
* Page one is the Littlest Slayer batting righty.
* Page three is Simone Doffler making the devil sign.
* Pages six and seven are Giant Dawn cavorting drunkenly with 60 slayers.
* Page eight begins Buffy’s date with the individual who woke Buffy with a kiss a few issues ago. We learn that Buffy regards her date as “hot” and possessed of great taste, among other things.
* On page 11 Buffy pre-emptively deflates a villain’s menacing banter.
* On page 13 Buffy finally meets the pair of boots introduced on page 12 of issue one.
* Page 20 made me laugh aloud, and harder than any comic-book page has made me laugh in some time.
Next month begins a four-issue arc scripted by Drew Goddard, the “Cloverfield” screenwriter who wrote the best episode of “Buffy’s” seventh season.
GOTTA HAVE FAITH!!
The Second Five Episodes of Season Eight!!
PLANNING HIS VENGEANCE!!
$39.99: Every Issue 1963-2006!!
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Well?
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Feb 06, 2008 6:29:58 PM CST
And where's the Forgetting Sarah Marshall red band trailer TB?
by pennsy
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does that include co-writing credits?
I think the best season 7 ep was 'Conversations With Dead People', which he co-wrote. Goddard also co-wrote 'Lies My Parents Told Me', which i'd put among the top 5. 'Selfless' and 'Dirty Girls' are also pretty great but i suspect you don't mean either of them. -
oh, wait, it's "with 60 slayers?" Well, that's different.
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speaking of which - that should be the next Joss Whedon movie pitch.
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When this was a show not a comic.
Still, good comic. -
For Marvel to realize how terrible a match Humberto Ramos' style is for Runaways and get someone with a more grounded art style. Seriously, why does Marvel keep giving this guy work that isn't some dumb kids book. He has to be my least favorite artist right now. I'm going to be sad to see Ryan go because even though his art wasn't my favorite it isn't as terrible as Ramos.
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I'm going to go with Riley. He's the only non-regular that comes to mind who isn't dead. Except maybe Drusilla who I'm surprised we haven't seen yet but Twilight is clearly a dude.
Either that or Giles didn't kill Glory after all and Twilight is some sort of mesh of her and the guy she shared her body with.
If you read the issue he does something that made me laugh and pissed me off simultaneously. And where the hell is Warren? We see him a couple issues in and "poof" we don't hear anything since. -
Shame, AICN! :)
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Seeing Buffy again. Yea I know it's not the same. Still, pretty damn good. Twilight = Reilly. Doubtful.
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Seeing Buffy again. Yea I know it's not the same. Still, pretty damn good. Twilight = Reilly. Doubtful.
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My bad
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The best episode of Season 7 was "Dirty Girls" because it finally introduced one of the greatest villains to come since Angeleus. I off-course am referring to Caleb, the menacing, murderous, ideological and empathy challenged former priest. He really did come with a bang, in addition the episode was directed in an excellent, coherent manner that start with a beginning middle and an end. The entire seventh season was at best mediocre and at worst terrible. "Dirty Girls" was a much needed injection into a show that easily indicated that it was on its last legs.
The writers made an awful mistake trying to make "The First" a big bad. In fact the First would have been much greater on Angel considering that the spin-off was a better avenue for complex characters and situations, with a much darker tone than Buffy. What Caleb bought to the show was the perfect antagonist to what the entire show was about. He was this backward thinking, sexist and chauvinistic character who murdered young women. Dirty Girls showed this very well, but it did it so well because the performance was so good that the audience can look at him and make other assumptions about him like whether he was manipulated, disillusioned or just insane? Whether he was betrayed by his faith, these were the facets that the show was badly missing during the seventh season.
One of the key problems of the seventh season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, unlike the other seasons, was that it failed badly in trying to move on from the somewhat weak storylines from the season 6. The first 5-7 episodes focussed poorly on the somewhat semantic relationships between some of the useless characters. Selfless was not a good episode at all, it was about the crappiest character in the history of the show! Even Harmony provided more entertainment. Despite the good production values of the episode, it was boring and it didn't really bring the audience at the edge of their emotional seats. Who the fuck cares if Anya's "past buddy" who was around for 3 episodes dies? She was a SHITE no name character, who gives a rats about the bearded shit head demon man? Man what a shit episode, and by the end, she doesn't even die, they all just declare "Well that crappy characters dead now, lets just go home and watch TV". "Selfless" was the episode that showed what was wrong with Season 7. But despite that, Drew Goddard is a brilliant writer and that episode can be considered an abberation. -
"Page one is the Littlest Slayer batting righty?" WTF???
When will Xander pound Buffy's box...eight years, give the guy some non-annoying pussy! FUCK ANYA. -
While I disagree about the Buffy comment the more pertinent link to the above statement is he also wrote pretty much the worst epis of the final Angel season. Alias and Lost aren't much to write home about either.
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season 7 gets some bizarre hate on AICN talkbacks but it may actually be my favourite season. the slow ramping up of the mystery of the First, esp the stretch between the final scene of ep 7.1 to 'Conversations With Dead People' is nothing short of fantastic.
As for the hate for 'Selfless', Buffy has long used the 'flashbacks to build characterisation' technique stretching back to season 2, but there isn't a more perfect example of it in the whole show than 'Selfless'. -
What? Buffy had a good episode in Season 7? I will have to re-watch them.
Seriously though, I don't get why we have been this long without a series from Joss Whedon on TV. It is by far his best medium. Come on joss, get cranking out something from the BuffyVerse, you know you can make something good and make a fortune from it, what's stopping you? -
I rarely chime in here, but now I must because even though I agree that Season 7 is the weakest, "Selfless" is one of my top 5 eps of the ENTIRE series. It's genius.
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Lies My Mother Told Me featuring Spike's mother issues. No, she was not a Milf.
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What I do not get is the Season 6 hate. When it was first run, I thought it was sort of bleak and other than the last three episodes, I was not that thrilled with it. Bt on DVD, I realized how great that season was and how FUNNY that season was However, Season 7 had a half dozen good episodes and a lot of mediocre and occasionally turgid episodes.
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Conversations with Dead People
Lies My Parents Told Me (one of the few that actually got the old epic feel of the show back)
The One Where Buffy Closes the Door on Giles (forget the name)
Selfless (mostly just because Anya was pretty much my favorite character on the show) -
Don't forget that Dirty Girls shows a range of attitudes towards women, from innocent to creepy to dangerous. Besides Caleb's extreme misogyny we get Xander's group fantasy, and Andrew's objectification of Faith through the male gaze. I'm sure there's other stuff I'm forgetting. But that episode was interesting for its connecting theme as much as it was for introducing Caleb.
I also think that Selfless was a great episode. The killing of Halfrek was besides the point. It's all about Anya, and whether she can be a demon again, or whether she can take responsibility for killing. The title says it all - great pun, because Anya has no self. She's always been defined by either the men around her, whether it's the Troll guy, D'Hoffryn, or Xander, or by her job description, either vengeance demon, girlfriend, or retail clerk. Plus who could not love the hilariously subtitled black and white grainy 'flashback,' the great 'lost song' from the 'Once More with Feeling' era that underscores Anya's search for identity by having her trying out married names, and the brutally honest argument between Xander and Buffy about when it's ok to kill someone you formerly cared about because they've gone evil. The whole episode was worth that scene, as it's the first time that Xander's lie to Buffy from the end of season 2 (not telling her to wait for Willow's spell) is exposed. Now that's story arcing - a great way to recall 5 year old events and make them resonate. I also loved 'Conversations,' so yeah, Drew definitely wrote the best season 7 episodes. -
is Lies My Parents Told Me.
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Yeah, that was pretty damn funny! But how long is this Twilight arc going to be? I don't want to keep getting interrupted by guest writers with new
stories all the time; don't be such a tease! -
sure, arc-wise season 7 was weaker than the others (i believe season 5 was the best overall serialized story), but 7 had some incredibly good stand alone episodes, which may have even been part of the problem as they appeared to be having so much fun writing good episodes they didn't want to deal with actually having to end the series and connect everything together. though that being said i thought they ending was quite majestic and thematically, the idea of her empowering all the slayer chicks was ridiculously perfect and a genius way to end a show that was at its core a feminist manifesto.
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