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Merrick again...
Movie Web has posted a close-up photo of a Skull from the film.
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Merrick here...
Action Figure Insider has posted a promotional flyer from a Japanese company which makes trinkets and whatnot.
The image shows a variety of Indiana Jones-themed stuff (the Ark, the Hovitos skull, the Grail) and, amongst the loot, is a Crystal Skull from INDY 4.
BEWARE OF SPOLIERS IN THE IMAGE BELOW!!!
Yeah, so, I suppose this pretty much illustrates what we've been hearing for a while now...the Crystal Skulls are extraterrestrial in nature. At least, that sure looks like an alien skull to me...not that I've ever actually seen one in person.
Lucas has mentioned using some sort of MacGuffin in the film...so there could be a margin for error here. But, every detailed report I've heard confirms the skull's alien backstory, so...
You can read the original article (which has a few more details) HERE!
Thanks to Jaromir for the heads up about this.
Yeah, so, I suppose this pretty much illustrates what we've been hearing for a while now...the Crystal Skulls are extraterrestrial in nature. At least, that sure looks like an alien skull to me...not that I've ever actually seen one in person.
Lucas has mentioned using some sort of MacGuffin in the film...so there could be a margin for error here. But, every detailed report I've heard confirms the skull's alien backstory, so...
You can read the original article (which has a few more details) HERE!
Thanks to Jaromir for the heads up about this.
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yet nervous. I want this to be good but you know the old saying you're only as good as your last film...well last crusade is awful from top to bottom so I hope they learn from that.
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that is definitely an ayleum-kinda skull. but it's not as cool as that weird keychain of what looks like indy holding a watering can. dope!
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Word
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I saw David Duchovny and Gillian Anderson on the set of INDY 4!!!!!
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That is, I came to the realization that Indy IV may be good, may be bad, but most assuredly will be so overhyped that we're all more or less guarenteed to be disappointed. *Cough*The Phantom Menace*cough*
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Enough said.
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Feb 04, 2008 6:54:59 PM CST
Indy keychains: a must-have for this season's fashion
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.... of alien origin for crystal skulls, but an actual alien crystal skull?
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I don't remember him...
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"Kingdom of Crystal Meth" - because I swear that skull is modeled after this chick who works at the WalMart here in town. Where's the Wizz Quiz when you really need it, right? I mean that Returns department is a quagmire of despair and inefficiency, then you get to the front of the line and see the ravages of the Devil's Hailstones. This film has an opportunity to be a message movie. If the Crystal Skull is found next to Richard Dreyfus' noggin, then we've come full circle. That could be Zen.
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They make fishing fun!
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That's the voodoo doll from "Temple of Doom".
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I then hope that they use their hyperdrives and make their first stop in a galaxy far far away. I also hope they go back in time -- perhaps during the trip, there is a some kind of time-space wackadoodle that makes everything go topsy turvey, so, Indy winds up going not only to a galaxy far far away, but a long time ago. His crystal alien skull friends will crash their ship on Corellia, and Indy will mate with some even haired beauty. Nine months later, Han Jones is born. Later on, in defiance of his father, Han Jones changes his last name to Solo, cause thats the way he likes to roll -- solo (or solo w/ large pet dogbearman). Hence the Indyverse links up with Star Wars and half of geekdom loves it while the rest of it hates it (yet sees it, buys it, obsesses about it anyways.)
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and I want to drink beer out of the holy grail.
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Indy goes in for what he thinks is a routine colon/rectal check (as any health conscious 72 year old should). Before he knows it, his doctor morphs into an alien and probes his ass.
GOD THIS MOVIE IS GOING TO BE AWESOME!!!! I heard M. NIGHT did some rewrites on this.
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That skull is entirely too similar to Roger from American Dad. Are the pictographs in the temples going to depict aliens lounging about with cabana boys?
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I'll call Art Bell. Sheesh! Next movie.. Indiana Jones and the Turd of Bigfoot.
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It's out of step with the rest of the series. The first three films are all mystical and/or god-related, but now we get sci-fi? It might be a decent film on its own, but I don't see how this will truly feel like a part of the series.
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Feb 04, 2008 7:05:30 PM CST
Of course it could just be a human skull badly skewed in Photosh
by det. john kimble
But why go with the RATIONAL explanation?
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Feb 04, 2008 7:07:10 PM CST
I bet the Shankara Stone keychain is a big seller...
by det. john kimble
in Punjab. Tip your waitress, please.
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I want one.
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but I did. Well it's an alien from close encounters. waddaya know
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I thought the theory for nearly a decade has been Indy 4 would be about aliens and the Lucas camp keeps repeatedly denying it.
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H. R. Giger design.
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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http://homepage.mac.com/payote/lessalien.jpg
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Yeesa! Everybody lovesa JarJar and Wicket T. Warwick! Yaaay! I hope the end features a half hour long musical dance number in which Indy, now in the Star Wars universe, dances in his underwear with the Gungans and Ewoks whilst singing a hybrid mashup of the Yub Yub Song and the Indy theme.
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or maybe Indy will just hit Cate Blanchett in the grill with it
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Holy crap!
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I like your idea.
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I know it ain't but wouldn't that be perfectly lame if it was?
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...aaaand the tidbits that are released get shabbier and shabbier. What's next? Old man's diaphers with the Indy Logo? Or a pen with a picture of 50-year-old Karen Allen whose clothes fall off when you turn it upside-down? Even before its release, this movie is becoming so dull that I can hardly raise enough energy to bad-mouth it. I wonder if Lucasfilm are deliberately leaking the most boring and unflattering snapshots so as to dampen public expectations, thereby avoiding a Phantom Menace-style backlash. Now that I think of it, it's the only explanation for the rubbish they're posting on the net.
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..the skull of a hydrocephalic baby or a waterhead baby(for all you waterheads)
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Looks like cool stuff. I'll take a Crystal Skull and a Coke in the special Grail Collectible Cup.
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Indy and Starbuck.
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I only recently learned this but crystal skulls aren't something that Lucas just made up. It's an actual archealogical phenomenon. They're "holy grails" within the archealogy community. Furthermore, their connection to extraterrestrials is also not something that Lucas just made up. For some reason that knowledge has made me feel much better about this movie.
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..for satisfying partner more quickly.
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From the one Kirk blasted with his homemade bazooka. Hey waitaminute, Last week we saw a pic of Indy with a Commie Bazooka, Kirk killed a gorn with a homemade Bazooka. This week we see an alien crystal skull. Speilberg was seen checking out the set of the new Trek. HMMMMMMMM intreguing.
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according to wiki (which is, naturally, the holy grail of the interwebs), crystal skulls have been debunked and proven to generally have been made in the 19th century. however, 'additional citations needed,' so maybe that's all hogwash and they ARE for reals, and it's up to indy to prove it.laser, please don't ever write the words 'yub yub song' again, i snarfed my black cherry soda all over the place when i read that.
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that the other Indy movies were about supernatural/religious artifacts and that it's jarring that this one is about aliens? Cause I don't think anyone's brought it up.
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And I approve this message.
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I just read a little on the Crystal Skulls and they are real. I think you just have to trust Speilberg to do his job on this. It was not written by Lucas he just came up with the idea.
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Who knew there would be people on this site who don't like what they hear , and think that the movie they haven't seen will suck. Get in line and you can bitch that you were raped all over again, the rest of us will get in line and enjoy a frikken Indiana Jones movie!! what else have you got to look forward to?It's a bloody Indy movie , have some faith already. if it's at least as good as The Last Crusade i'll be satisfied. nostalgia is a bitch to overcome for some and too many people are already too jaded about a movie none of us know much about.
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It's just a plot device, so I don't understand the "margin for error" comment. I bet the MacGuffin is the ark.
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I've tried to stear clear of info regarding this flick, so I might be way off......and I'm sure SOMEONE has bound to of mentioned this before, but wasn't there a Mayan prophet that had elongated skull? I really should have paid more attention to those constant airings of those Doomsday specials on The History Channel.
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It's Indiana Jones I just can't see how it could be bad. We're reading all this stuff on the innernet but no one out here really knows how the movies going to be put together. So far we heard aliens are somehow involved well I say it's about time he uncovered some aliean artifact!!!
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and the Holy Grail was also a MacGuffin. The Maltese Falcon, also a MacGuffin. And even though crystal skulls have been debunked, so what? If you're speaking completely objectively, what about an Ark and a Holy Grail? They're just narrative devices. In Indy's world they're real. Lucas/Spielberg/Whoever borrow real world aspects of the Ark/Grail/Crystal Skull story and bring it into the movie. What's the problem? And the fact that Lucas only came up with the idea gives this movie a one up on the prequel trilogy. Lucas has ideas, you can't deny that. The man can't write dialog to save his life and that's what sunk the prequels.
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Me, too, and as randomly as that scene in LIFE OF BRIAN.
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When there is the very image of an alien-esqe crystal skull on the freakin' INDY 4 poster/one-sheet?!
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and if I'm right then I'm going to kick my "please make episode 7 8 and 9" campaign into full effect. With Lucas hiring differant writters and directors for each one.
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...isn't there a Crystal Skull artifact in existence which looks like a human skull and not a freakin' alien?
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The "rabbit's foot" in Mission:Impossible 3 was a classic MacGuffin. Not only didn't it matter what it even was, we didn't even see whats his name steal it. The artifacts in the Indy movies take active roles in the story, namely dispatching the bad guys. What's my point? I got you to read the whole meandering post.
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You crack me up. Don't you ever drink Coke?
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They aren't keychains (or fishing lures for that matter) - they are straps for cell phones, which are very popular in Japan.
Also, the voodoo doll from Temple of Doom could actually be something else as it's captioned "secret" while the straps are all captioned with the name of the McGuffin. -
Mutt: Dad, there's Aliens!
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http://www.movieweb.com/news/01/26301.php
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He's my favorite thing about Indiana Jones. Damn you Frank Marshall for dissing the Round.
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The skull there sure don't like the one here so . . . there's a bit more to this bit.
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Shia will act all hyper and erratic. I got this from a reliable source.
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Anything goes!! Time to dance, Doctor Jones!
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first off, anybody who has spent any time in Asia would realize these are NOT key chains, they're cellphone accessories.
Second, a couple of people have pointed out that the previous Indy films have involved a mystical or spiritual focus and that this one is about aliens, but have failed to take into account that to some people, aliens are every bit as spiritual and mystical as an omnipotent overseer and his bastard offspring. The only difference is whether you want to call "him" Xenu or Jehovah or Allah. Same shit different pile, and it all stinks just the same. -
I always wondered what he looked like.
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They should just go grindhouse with this motherfucker and kill the audience with some kind of rampant, noxious, exploitative and just plain cruel freakout.
Just kidding, I hope its done with the same spirit and fun of the first one. Since only the first one was GREAT, the other two were okay, fun, but ultimately whatevs to me. I love that they've brought Karen Allen back (thats her name, right?). Should be a good time. -
But it's not a fucking lion skull, that's for sure. Aliens? Or maybe not.
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...belong in a museum!
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I just took a looksee at it and sure LeBouf, that's not a human skull. Need to pay more attention to it I do.
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Feb 04, 2008 8:48:45 PM CST
IF IT LOOKS LIKE A KEYCHAIN, AND SMELLS LIKE A KEYCHAIN ...
by bringingsexyback
You can put it on a cellphone but it's still a keychain. I spend lots of time in Chinatown and those things are everywhere. And here's a tip - if you want a big chrome belt buckle that says PIMP, go to Canal and Lafayette, 3rd store to the west. Bargain down to $10 easy. And prepare to impress the ladies.
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http://tinyurl.com/3bzng4
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I know Episode 1 parallels are usually used in jest or just to be an ass, but this picture worries me in a serious way connected to the midchlorians of episode 1. The Force used to be about mystical powers, and George Lucas turned it into just more sci-fi. The past Indy movies were about fantasy. Now, if the alien nature of the skulls is true, that could mean that the same thing is happening again. What if he reveals that all the mystical occurances in the past were actually alien in nature and were advanced technology instead of simply mystical items? Simply put, is he putting midichlorians into Indy? Cuz that would suck. Get my meaning?
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Now when does the new season of Top Chef start?
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Although this is the first step toward gearing back up to full production. Excellent. All the episodes are probably physically written anyway, the strike just meant they were never going to deliver the scripts until an agreement was made. Hasn't officially happened yet but fucking fingers crossed!
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Hopefully we'll only have a 2-3 week break in between episode 8 and 9. hopefully. get this thing fixed! i need my TV!
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Then they'll get a better director.
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Imagine that, products from Asia, all over Chinatown. Your own stupidity speaks volumes. It's got a stretchy nylon strap that wouldn't last more than a week on a key chain in someone's pocket. Nor can you 'chain" more keys to it without it snapping. Not much good as a key chain if you ask me, but it sure looks good attached to that little hole designed right into every cellphone in the world.
Is it too hard to believe that they design phones to accommodate accessories and that they even have accessories designed specifically for phones? I can assure you that they are not marketing them in Japan, China or Korea as key chains, but you will be able to find them at every cellphone store in those countries-- even if the average consumer such as yourself is too stupid to realize it. -
Cause, I mean, really people.
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I know it's a cellphone accessory, Einstein. Thanks for the fucking epiphany. Do I owe you tuition for schooling me on cellphone accessories? My point is who gives a flying fuck if it's a cellphone accessory? And who the fuck in the name of Jesus wants to type "cellphone accessory" when they can type "keychain"? I bet you have a collection of them too don't you? One for each day of the month? And Hello Kitty stickers all over your KRZR I'll bet.
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Feb 04, 2008 9:11:35 PM CST
I CAN'T BELIEVE I GOT A LECTURE ON A CELLPHONE ACCESSORY
by bringingsexyback
I feel so fucking enlightened I can spit.
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...I just want my trailer, dammit...
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Don't you think it would be great if Pepsi brought back its crystal clear drink for the new movie? And personal hygiene makers brought back crystal toothpaste and gel deodorant?
Me neither!
Aboriginal, I caught your Blade Runner reference. You are among geeks.
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For those long nights of digging, nothing beats Mt. Dew.
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I have gel deoderant.
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Midichlorians is just another word for sperm.
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Land of the Lost, anyone?
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His fro must be the size of a hedge by now.
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take a pill dude. I'm not sitting here insisting that if it looks like a key chain, it must be a key chain like, and it was a minor observation that you felt warranted posting further about, and now blowing a lid. You're probably just jealous I have more Hello Kitty stickers than you, cause you can only go to Chinatown to get them, whereas I live near the source... and BTW, I've got a different one for every day of the year, not just the month... why limit myself?
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But back in 1992 or whatever, for about a month, everyone made something that was crystal clear. And some of the packaging was crystal. Tub tile spray. Toothpaste. Hemmorhoidal ointment (don't confuse the two). As if you could just SEE that the perfectness of the product was RIGHT THERE--because you couldn't see it AT ALL, which meant it was unadulterated and good. What the hell do I use? I think it's Speed Stick. Ocean Surf or some shit--as if I'd really be intimately familiar with an ocean surfy smell here in Cleveland.
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in the dinosaur movie "Baby." It was one of the last movies my parents took my brothers and I to as a family. They wanted to see something that was non-violent and had no nudity. Well, that movie had about 45 minutes of tribal nudity. Just ugly bouncing old lady tribal breasts. So it was a loss all around. "Whooo could it beeee? Believe it or not, it's kloip-y."
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Will Spock be in this one? Eric Bana?
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Come on, aliens in Indiana Jones is plan wrong. Keep it kinda mysterious and mystical with something like the ark, or the covenant. Not aliens. damnit.
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You've never seen a taste like this.
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would like awesome in my place...
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I'm sexually frustrated and just washed some dishes to calm down. Sorry for yelling.
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sure look an awful lot like highly-stylized versions of Mitchell-Hedges skulls.
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Pimp out your Cadi with a new Golden Hovitos Fertility God Hood Ornament. Indy can't snatch this bling, fuh schnizzle.
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Skynet must've sent their original model t-0001 back in time just a taaaaad bit too far.
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has inked a deal for two more action movies, one of which could be Rambo 5. There is no punchline, because this is not a joke.
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Feb 04, 2008 9:48:59 PM CST
SHIA LEMEAT IS THE SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO THE KATT MAN
by bringingsexyback
I mean, look at the hair man.
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Why aren't you at your post?
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Both owe homage to Art Garfunkel.
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Brown people all over the world dread the next Rambo.
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So why is biblical fiction any more or less believable than alien fiction? Actually, there is a greater statistical chance that aliens are real than any of that bible nonsense. If it's done right, it could be quite good, but if it's done wrong, it'll look like a bad episode of the X-Files.
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like Seinfeld's Kramer, and a killer fro in the day, was Lindsey Buckingham of Fleetwood Mac. Try explaining to YOUR 6 year old daughter that no, Lindsey is the boy and Stevie is the girl.
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why does the head look like its made of plastic wrAP?
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Feb 04, 2008 9:54:04 PM CST
ABOM - THOSE 3 HUMAN Q-TIPS SHOULD DO A MOVIE TOGETHER
by bringingsexyback
as Chris Tucker's cousins. That should keep Ratner busy.
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I'll just keep sharing until it gets a post of it's own or something
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http://tinyurl.com/2jx5df bah, stupid spaces
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It didn't occur to me (because I'm sort of feeble-minded) until I read a review of the new movie is that Rambo really does only save Sara and Michael--two white Americans--in the movie. Nothing will change for the Karen people. Kinda like Rambo said. But you said it right, wherever Rambo goes next, blood will spill on behalf of The White Man. What he needs is a sidekick with a kinky hairdo. "Whoa, man! How do you do that BOW THING?!"
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Feb 04, 2008 10:00:44 PM CST
ABOM, WASH YOUR MOUTH! SHIA DOES NOT EXIST IN RAMBO'S DOJO
by bringingsexyback
But given the kid's track record, anything is possible. If someone told me 2 years ago he would be Indy's son, I would've laughed. Now? I cry.
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I wasn't gonna say it, for fear that it wasn't PC, but wiki has an entry for the "jewfro" or "Isro" hairstyle, and does in fact cite Art Garfunkel. I just looked it up. Gabe Kaplan from Welcome Back Kotter is another good one. But his was more tame.
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And I collected a few treasures, two fo them a gold and silver Inca skull... no Crystal one yet... and I too am weirded about about the sci-fi ness of this... I'd more associate Indy with God, religious or other types of mythical treasures or even some kind of supernatural-ish curse or monster... heck I'd sooner feel living dinosaurs in the Jungle are more inline with Indy... but I can't see the spaceships and things happening unless it's just downplayed and it's some old relic of unknown origin that implies alien-ness... Ah well, whatever...
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Holy Jeebus..Indy is going to get taken by the CE3K aliens. That would be sweet
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Somewhere Sean Connery's going "Thas no gwandshun of mine!"
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Man, that shit looks stupid.
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and his name. Ron Paul 12!!! Hillary 08!!!!!!!
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You know this to be true.
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Anyone know how?
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It's just the stupid skull, just like the one on the teaser poster. Not only is it hardly boner-level news, it doesn't constitute a spoiler...morons.
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is an alien cellphone accessory. Do the math!
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I was a zoologist, and that's definitely a bear skull. Or should I say, a bear cellphone accessory keychain skull.
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Out of his Mashed Potatoes?
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Can kiss my hairy white ass.
That looks sweet!
Do you all WANT this movie to suck? I want it to kick ass, and so far everything looks cool to me. And Over-hyped? That all the fans hyping it. We've only seen about 10 stills from the movie. It's coming out in a few months, man! See you May 22nd, Indy. -
my Shankara Stones work overtime. At the office they're tired of me running down the hallway yelling, "Cover your hearts! I'm going to come!"
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And of course appears in CE3K!!!
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what the hell is a "macguffin"? thats th second time today I've read that on this site.
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Put simply, the "macguffin" in a movie is the thing or device or object that provides motivation for all the characters. In Indy films, it's always the "treasured object" like the ark, shankara stones, or grail. Someone please take a shit on me if I've got that wrong.
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I didn't want to know about the skull..blah..didn't think it would spoil it for me! Ah well..cool about those 'toys'...if they are featured in the movie...wonder what they mean...
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at the beginning does turn up in Close Encounters.
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E'erybody settle on down, naugh *spits*. We ain't got no Close Encounters confirmations as yet, so y'all just whoa yer damn wagons, y'hear? *pushes back duster as he hooks thumbs onto britches* Rumor sheriff's in town. *nonchalantly rocks jean-clad underside of pelvis uncomfortably close to the camera*
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All I know is, a MacGuffin is not a Red Herring, and I don't know what a Red Herring is either. I just know the movie better be good.
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for the quick response.
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I can't recall the ages of the ships and planes that were found in the desert in CE3K. And I've read the book and seen the movie several times (but not recently). But if Skull takes place in '56, well, 20 years ain't that long for something to be lost. Plenty of other similar objects / vehicles manufactured in the 50s lasted naturally through the 70s, I'm sure. So no, the only other cool thing they could do is have that wild west pistol from the end of Predator 2 turn up somewhere. Or have a heiroglyphic on a temple wall that looks like Iron Maiden's "Eddie" from Powerslave.
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is a fake-out--a distraction. You see it mostly in mysteries and action movies, where they'll feed you clues so you pin your suspicion on one character or event, and it turns out to be someone (or something) else. In Clive Cussler novels, and I mean EVERY one of them, the hero and his sidekick always discuss out loud whether a given clue is a red herring or not, left for them by the "clandestine" or "machiavellian" villain.
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A herring is a pungent fish hunters used to train hunting dogs. They'd drag the fish across the trails of fox or badger or whatever, and eventually the dogs would learn to follow the 'true' sent of the prey instead of the 'false' scent of the fish.
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Fade in to Paramount logo mountain. Dissolve to Indy's mashed potato mountain. (Hilarity ensues....)
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Pungeant mofos, the lot of them.
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a story about Indy and Shia "getting to know" each other. Please, no. They already did that in Crusade.
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Actually, looks like the skull of any one of a few dozen ANIME characters.
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Anybody else think Alan Rickman was just channeling Hans Gruber?
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...BELONGS IN A MUSEUM!"
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The aliens will be called to Earth...by the Crystal Skull...They will come...They will say, "The Jews. Where are the Jews?" Then they will gather all the Jews together and they will open the ark...In the ark, Shi
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http://tinyurl.com/yp5cn9
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i'd be surprised if they based the story on what is widely regarded as a racist point of view with mesoamerican subject matter. the notion that cultures like the maya or aztec or inca got their technology from aliens instead of, i don't know, maybe coming up with it themselves, is disrespectful. what, i white man can come up with quantum physics but a bunch of mexicans can't develop a diverse and sophisticated civilization, all on their own? that's crazy talk. all i'm saying is that an indiana jones movie about mayan or aztec culture alone could be great, there's no need to bring aliens into it, especially when that alien story element is going to crap on thousands of years of diverse and remarkable achievement.
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Don't mix.
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if the skull is just bunk and it craps out when the commies try to do the ancient ritual for power and indy just grabs it and beats the shit out of them with it
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"Kit Walker". "Ah. And who is Kit Walker?" "I am." "What about that skull?" "I thought it would go with my drapes." Honestly, as soon as I heard that "crystal skull" was in the title, I thought of The Phantom...which btw was a helluva lot better that the box office suggested--had the same sorat retro feel as Rocketeer, and it was cool to see Billy Zane play a good guy for a change, even if he did wear a skintight purple suit.
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You have been awarded the Total Agreement Award from this talkbacker, which is a bobble-head statue of a guy nodding and giving the thumbs up with "Fuckin' A" engraved upon the base.
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Someone mentioned that alien skulls seems sort of weird considering that the first 3 movies were mystical in nature, but I don't have a problem with that (or at least not for that reason). I think a change of that sort is warranted. Keep in mind that this takes place after the invention of the atomic bomb. After the Roswell incident. It was a different time with a different cultural climate, and I think it could work if the movie changes accordingly.
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Looks like the same material as a bowling ball. Can you see the Indy 4/ PBA marketing possibilities here? I think I could roll a 180 with that.
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Is Mulder and Scully gonna show up in this fucking thing?
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how queefer made a big point to come in here so he could pretend that a picture of a skull put him to sleep. its called narcolepsy brother, and you should get that checked out.
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http://www.biped.info/articles/missingrace.html
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Bastards gonna start selling the Egg MacGuffin.
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I just read it.
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Uh oh...I have a bad feeling about this.
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skywalkerfamily- you're dead on. The Indies (Harrison, Karen and Shia) are gonna crash their truck, which is carrying the Ark, when running from the Commies. And who else can help crash victims better than Tom and his posse? So Tom's going to lead them to a Mayan Kingdom for protection, where Mel Gibson also abides, and Tom and Mel, alongside Harrison, are going to fight the Commies led by an angry Cate, because they're fighting for their freedom fries, their private planes and their houses in Malibu.
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An army of Indy's!
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sorry.
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Based on footage seen, only John Williams can save it.
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All we've seen are four pics!
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What kind of twisted sex toy magazine is this?
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They're also going to sell crystal skull bongs when this movie comes out.
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this whole alien thing has that pungent smell of salt 'n vinegar chips or my balls, either or will suffice. i just hope it's better than the star wars prequels.. fuck me what a travesty that shite was.
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"Good call, my young padawan!"
"Follow him!"
"Shoot him down!"
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Agreed. Religion, SF, Fantasy - it's all from mythology. Lucas studied anthropology in college, i'm sure he knows what he's doing regarding the mcguffin.
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go watch the star wars prequels again and try and say that with a straight face.. Lucas has gone mad, pure and simple.
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I like it!
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But then, the Shankara Stones looked like baked potatoes and the grail was just a clay pot. Everything pales in comparison with the wonderful, accurate designs for the original Ark of the Covenant.
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Indy finds skull - annoys aliens - they land, threaten planet - Karen Allen challenges their champion to a vodka-drinking contest - wins - the end.
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It's alien!? why is it not on the poster art?
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i eagerly await the next exciting pic,maybe a tree or something
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after learning darth fart has low expectations.
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This can't be true...
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I think it's safe to assume that if the skulls contain any awesome power, it won't be that of building mighty pyramids, inventing a complex mesoamerican culture or making more effective the ripping out of thousands of still-beating hearts in honor of some deity.
My guess is that the skull, if it contains any power, will be something awesome akin to the Ark's destructive properties and something no human, brown or white, could invent in a million years. Perhaps the ancient meso-americans discovered a crashed ship or the relics of an ancient alien civlization and simply built a cult around the find.
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Where's the trailer? The promo blitz? They've only shown a few, shitty pics! This is going to suck! I smell Phantom Menace! WAAAAAAHHH!
They're pimping this thing to death! We're being inundated with Indy news! I smell Phantom Menace! This is gonna suck! WAAAAHHHH!!!
TOO SOON!! TOO LATE!!! WAAAHHHH!!! Ford is, like, old! WAAAHHH!!
TOO MANY CRATES!!! WAAAHHH!!!
Bitches...
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Stick to the mythological macguffins, don't make them have an alien backstory, it doesn't gel with the rest of the indy jones trilogy.
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These Indy TB's are funny shit. People line up on both sides to just shit on the film, and we know little about it. Can you be racist to an alien? If you think about it, you're being speciesist. It is a great chance for world unity as all the races on the planet gang up together to beat the shit out of green. Pah! I'm an alienist.
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But the Phantom Menarse (see what I did there!!!!! wow, I'm clever!!!) was terrible. There's really no getting around it.
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Take out Jar Jar, the useless trip through the Naboo sea core, the fooling around and pod race on Tatooine, and you've got a fairly good space adventure that moves at an even clip. Because that final light saber battle to me still stands as the best of the series. Because after the original trilogy, when we heard they'd be more, THAT's the kind of fighting we wanted to see, and thanks to Ray Parks we got it. The boy playing Anakin hurt the movie, I think, and the damage would have been less had their been less boy to watch. But with the exception of the beginning with Qui Gonn and Obi Wan, the movie's all boy Anakin and Jar Jar. Oh, and Qui Gonn should have totally nailed Schmi Skywalker and that healthy ass of hers. You could tell she wanted him to take her, even though he was a complete stranger.
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...but that's hardly the point, innit? Haters call Menarse based on wildly different factors, which is both sad and funny.
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The aliens will have kinky Jewfros and wear their wide-collar shirts open to expose massive chest hair and dangling medallions. And some may have plaid pants and white loafers.
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it is possible and I've said this before. There must be some gifted editor out there who could knock all 3 prequels into one- sure it may be about 4 hours, but I bet a pound to a penny that it would be good.
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"Shortround Keychain"!! You beat me to it, you Belloch!
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Sure but some have rational equipment based reasons. Fucking stupid hat. Why does he wear it? he should have dreadlocks, facial piercings and wear those trousers that his naked ass could hang out the back of. That would be original.
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...but I got it home, and it turned out to be a loaf of bread. How lame was that??
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Ok, lets forget about the CE3K refernces, but concentrate on "The Phantom." That so bad it's good movie with Billy Zane. Didn't the villian of the piece (Drax - Treat william)locate silvery skulls that could produce ultimate power, as these things always do? So that leads to my line of thought, where do the Russian fit into this? They will also be involved in the hunt for the Skulls too, McGuffin or not, but why? Again, probably ultimate power for the mother land. Yawn
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Also, given the exposure of religious iconography & theories and stories surrounding these, Dan Brown in particular. It makes sense that Indy 4 takes a fresh concept forward. If Indy was globe trekking looking for some religious thingy we would get endless comparisons to Robert Langdon and the Da Vinci Code et al. Clever move I say.
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Starting with Empire, and more so with Jedi and the prequels, Lucas did the cut-away editing at the climaxes of each movie where we'll see a bit of the action Luke is involved with, then cut to what Han and the others are doing, then back again. Same with the prequels. Show what Padme and the gang are doing, the cut to Anakin in the space battle, then cut to Qui Gonn and Obi Wan fighting Darth Maul. I'm down with the technique. The problem for me was, especially with TPM, is there's FOUR action sets going on:
1) the lightsaber duel
2) Padma and Kanaka and the others
3) Anakin in the space battle
4) Jar Jar and Gungans vs. Battledroids on the ground
And I think it was too much. A ground fight was probably inevitable, but it's the part I like the least now, especially because of Jar Jar. I for one just want the lightsaber duel to keep raging, uniterrupted. And frankly as cool as it was, Obi Wan's slicing of Maul was a cop-out ending. -
would like to touch my Shankara Stones, that's okay with me.
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bitches
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At all. Basically, before ROTS lucas admitted that he put 10% of the plot in TPM, 20% in AOTC, and 70% in ROTS. What I'm suggesting is that if you take all the footage from the prequels, then you could produce one great (albeit long) movie that cuts out all the shit we hate flows properly and is just plain great. There's no saving the love sequences, sadly, but almost all of AOTC can go in the bin.
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"no maw pawachootes"
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Your multiple threads theory is interesting, and a possible concern with this movie. We have Indy, Ray Winstone's Character, Baby Indy (Shia) and Marion. Not to mention The Russians and John Hurt's character. This technique could be applied, but with so many potential threads it could get messy.
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from your four way action blast is Anakin in space. Not interesting, not clever, not needed. We already knew he was a great pilot from the podrace. We didn't need it repeating. Less gungan shite wouldn't have hurt either.
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and a box of the Gummi Crystal Skulls...Lucas marketing triumphs again!!
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I'd recognize one anywhere
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Oh no, I wasn't suggesting they use it with the new Indy. I was just saying that while it was an effective way of storytelling for the original Star Wars Trilogy, it did get a little messy in Phantom Menace. CUT! There's Luke confronting the emperor on the Death Star II, trying to convince Daddy Darth to reform. CUT! There's Han, Leia and Chewie on Endor trying to get the shield generator down so that...CUT! Lando and Nein Numb can lead the rebel fighters in the space assault on the Death Star. With three threads, it works nicely. Four or more, like with TPM, ehhhh.
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You know it occurs to me that the MacGuffin or twist or angle or whatever you wanna call it for Indy 4 might be that it doesn’t involve aliens at all. I mean no matter what you believe, you look at those skulls and they do seem kind of other worldly, and there are already existing legends about them being alien and what not. But (and I'm just putting yet another theory out there to consider)I could see it being just something the characters of the Indy 4 universe debate/doubt as much as we do. Indy doesn’t strike me as the type to believe in little green men, so I'm sure that will play into it. But I could see this being something like people thinking certain things are alien but really aren’t, or maybe they’ll leave a little shadow of a doubt and leave it open ended so we can believe what we want about alien involvement. The Indy movies always reflected the attitudes of they day they took place in. And like some of you have mentioned, Indy’s been there and done that in terms of the religions stuff. I mean it’s not just the type of relic (religious or not) Indy hunts for that makes it a good tale or not. So in the 30's you could say Indy fought for God and fought to keep those relics safe from the evil Nazis, a time when the world had awful shit happening and I'm sure if one was around during the Nazi years their ass would’ve been asking for Gods help too. So that was the mindset for those times and those stories. Ok so this takes place in what the mid to late 50's? OK so that’s during the Red Scare, nuclear arms, arms race, widespread fear and paranoia, space, technology making advances, Soviet enemies, unseen threats, espionage, testing new advanced weapons, jets, and so on. These are all also things that contributed to and shaped attitudes about sci-fi at the time (the unknown alien enemy who wants to penetrate our society and take it down from within, thus Soviets = Aliens sort of thing) and how people thought about all these things, thus the alien ideas and fears. I could see Indy 4 being more of a tale of espionage in many ways. And not so much about 'alien' skulls, but the possibility of them, and wanting to stop the enemy from getting them in case its real sort of thing. Which all the Indy movies had, some object of power the good guys need to get before the bad guys do. Just something to consider. I still think this will be a good movie, and all the Phantom Menace ref.s are a bit much. It’s got a lot of great people attached, talented people and most importantly it’s not all Lucas. So while the sci-fi/alien thing still might not seem very Indy I'm not too worried. And even if God forbid it does suck, we'll always have the old Indy flicks. It’s not like this will just erase those. Looking forward to this one.
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dance on farmhouse rooftops like in "Signs?"
Seriously though, I think it would be cool if the five-note "noo nee nee noo nu" music from CE3K showed up somewhere, or the sign language. Or if the spaceship landed, a hatch opened slowly, a ramp descended, an alien strides down silently...and Indy pulls his revolver and shoots him dead. -
...the similarity to Sebulba from the Phantom Menace's pod race? This had better be a motherfucking red herring.
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That have been found, Those are perfect in shape, to a point experts think ,even with todays' technology, would be impossible to make with lasers even.
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neat
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I agree with the Bandit. In the past movies Indiana Jones was interested in the artifacts for histoical value only and to keep them away from Nazi or whoever. He never really seemed to be concerned with the supernatual value of it. Although, he was aware of the supernatural stigma or belief that was attachted to whatever it was he was looking for. I think this movie will be great. My main complaint about SW PT was how the actors where given no direction from the director. In this new adventure Speilberg is directing and I've never seen a movie that he's done where the actors don't know what they are doing. Speilberg knows how to give actors direction.
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Aliens as gods? THAT'S Panspermia? Wow, do I owe an apology to all the folks I made omelettes for on New Year's Day. Thanks for pointing out Wikipedia, fellow readers. Michael Scott would be proud, you douches. Is Costco still carrying cookware, 'cause my panspermia damages teflon, apparently. What if Indy is in the bomb compartment of a WW2 plane or boat and gets snatched and ends up with Francois Truffaut in the middle of a desert . . . except for Truffaut being dead, it would be a very plausible tie-in to 'Close Encounters'. (Not the porn version.)
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"...why'd it have to be scientologists?"
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and he'll be all like, BEE-YEW BEE-YEW BEE-YEW! And the aliens will have their plamsa rifles going like, BEE-YEW BEE-YEW BEE-YEW! And the Russians will come up all like, bang bang! budda budda budda, but Indy and the aliens will collaborate and be like, BEE-YEW BEE-YEW BEE-YEW!!
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I knew you'd find a way to sneak that miserable, skeletal wench of yours into this film; even if it is just a skull cameo.
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Really Dr. Jones, you must learn to disassociate yourself from the SP's, and Audit to clear with the tech before you can level to OT9 as LRH did.
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...that many of the people who claim they hated the prequels, walked out on them, found them unwatchable, etc. can also quote multiple lines from the films verbatim. Hmmmmm.
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...to have with my fruity drink. bsb, did you get the grapefruit soda or what, dude? embrace the ghey!abom, indy definitely needs to shoot an alien, preferably one that obviously looks like a little kid in an alien suit. those are the best.
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try looking on piratebay.com or any bittorent site. i have a few, some suck but theres a phnatom menace edit that will knock your socks off. it has some extra scenes back in, including darth maul sending out his probe thing on tatooine which is a small cut but adds to the flow of why aniken and qui gon have to hurry up to the ship and when u watch the first jar jar scene , the way its edited you'll sit there in wonder why the hell did that scene not irritate me in the least? thye just took out his annoyong remarks and left the dialoge simple, the magic of slight editing is amazing, it works and the movie flows nicer. i can find the names of the good edits if anyone wants...
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featured Nazis that believed the Ark contained magical powers to help them take over the world, Kingdom, will feature Russians that believe the Skulls contain information or properties that will allow intergalactic space travel, so the Russians can conquer space and rule from above?? My sample for run-on sentence of the year complete. Thank you.
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you do have a serious sugar jones, don't you.. ;)
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I'm going to start a company that sells commemorative replica "Bags of Sand" from Raiders. I just need some sacks and beach sand. Taking pre-orders now. Low low price of $29.99 per sack.
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AHAHAHAH!! what it is is that i spend so much time working in a studio, in front of a computer, blah blah blah, that i end up cramming junk down my gullet without even thinking of it. i know, i know, it's really bad, i am a bad person.
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I think you just described the dietary habits of 95% of AICNers..
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Damn you Lucas! Right down to hell!
Mystical religious artifacts should stay mystical, and not be retconned into alien technology!
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...and pulp is what will keep Indy on track and where Lucas lost it in STAR WARS. Lucas is highly gifted, don't get me wrong, but like a lot of his fans, he has the habit of claiming that STAR WARS is just for kids when you point out that some of it is kind of silly, but also trying to make it more profound than it is.STAR WARS was originally, and quite simply, a modern space serial, Buck Rogers/Flash Gordon/ Rocky Jones with better special effects and a (THEN) hipper attitude. He threw in a little modern science fiction and some hippie mysticism. Sure, in his early, DISCARDED drafts and edited versions, some of the convolutions we've come to know and hate appeared but George was still humble enough to listen to other people who wisely told him to leave/edit them out.Harrison Ford famously told him, "George, you can type this shit, but you can't say it."Indiana Jones, as we all know, was inspired by Lucas' love of the old adventure film serials that were re-run on TV Saturday mornings when he was a child in the 1950s. Spielberg dug 'em too. There's also a great influence from the adventure pulp magazines than ran from the 1920s-early'50s.In one of the last Indy talkbacks, we fans debated which film was best, worst and which were equal. If you look at them as pure pulp and pure serial (like breakfast) they all work well. In some stories, the hero was harder edged than others, the events racier, more frightening, while in some, things were funnier, faster, sunnier.DOC SAVAGE has never been mentioned as an inspiration for Indy, since he was a crimefighter, etc., but one thing we can take from that series to this is that sometimes, Doc had mystic adventures, some straightforward action, and some were sci-fi (not "science fiction" but glorious "Sci-Fi!" I don't care much for science fiction, but I love Sci-Fi!).So religous, mystical or alien/ supervillain/espionage, the maguffins are just maguffins. But it's gotta be Serial. It's gotta be Pulp.
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but we are united in our pathos!!xi, my husband often uses the word 'goozle' instead of 'gullet.' that's because he's white trash from the south, but it's a good word nonetheless, if you'd like to add that to the trifecta and make it a...uh...quadrifecta? that sounds like a who album!
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what's pathetic is my class. i did my 'blade runner' lecture last night and you'd've thought i was discussing the new budget to a bunch of third graders. everybody was practically comatose while i jumped up and down yelling 'dystopia! ridleygrams! antihero!' *sigh* you know one of the most charming things i learned from the blade runner doc? that the deckard character was originally storyboarded with a fedora, you know, playing into that whole gumshoe look, but when 'raiders' came out, ridley was like 'oh crap' and had to lose the hat!
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But nothing beats Ford's straw hat in Witness!
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...Autopia.The preceding gag was stolen from the deleted scenes in the SIMPSONS movie, in which Moe explains to Marge that after they left the dome, Springfield first became a Utopian society, then a Dystopian society, and finally an Autopian society. Complete with wacky illustrations.
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the amish are rad. when's dior going to do an amish collection, complete with suspenders and horsewhips?buzz, i have given up joking with my students. it's like banging my head against a brick wall.the only time i got a laugh was when i inadvertently used the word 'pwned' and my one student who's an electrical engineer cracked up. *sigh*
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With my film school education, I was qualified to be a long term, substitute teacher!I learned very quickly never to make a joke. Only teachers in the movies get to that (when they're not inspiring the gang leaders of inter-city schools to put aside their violence and express themselves). I taught a class for 3 months, made one joke and it took me about an hour to get 'em back to normal.
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the REAL crystal skulls look better. Hollywood can't make them as good as an ancient civilization??
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bravo, buzz. i'm glad you're using your powers for good and not evil. ;)negative two plus two, fill the hole!
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...but I'd say that the crudity of the movie props might be a nod to the Republic serial roots of the films.I know. People make excuses for everything Lucas does:You: "The dialogue in TPM was kinda lame. I mean yippee and wizard?"Lucas Apologist:"Real space kids talk like that!"Also, I think the skulls are clearly meant to make us associate them with the current idea of what an alien looks like.
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Because after they popped up in SW, anything is possible. ;)
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...and have him pass the franchise torch onto Shia like that godawful Trek movie where Kirk met Picard. It might sound ludicrous, but i wouldn't put anything past Lucas after the way he keeps tinkering with the original Star Wars trilogy. Thinking about it, they've already removed the present-day bookend scenes with the old Indy from the recently released Young Indiana Jones Chronicles DVDs, thus retconning the 'official' series continuity and perhaps laying the groundwork for Indy to be well and truly offed.... i just hope they won't do that.
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Erich von Däniken is the uncredited cowriter on Indy 4.
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get in the kitchen! the intraweb is for men! manly MEN!
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witness!
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They keep talking about doing Crystal Skull for the fans. I always thought this was a nice doffing of the hat to us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcwEIs5_z7E
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Actually TPM doesn't need reshooting, just a good edit. Then make AOTC NOW where Ewan McGregor actually does look 10 years older than he was in TPM, cast a GOOD actor as Anakin. This is ANAKIN SKYWALKER FOR FUCK'S SAKE!! How could Lucas cast a crappy kid for TPM and then a shitty teen for AOTC?? Terrible decisions. Get someone good in the director's chair. Shoot AOTC and ROTS back-to-back with new director and writers. Actually do some location shooting. Bingo.
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But really just move on and make the new final trilogy. This time do it right, hire a hungry writter and a bad ass director.
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In 1979, director George Lucas said in an interview on the set of The Empire Strikes Back, "The first script was one of six original stories I had written in the form of two trilogies. After the success of Star Wars, I added another trilogy. So now there are nine stories. The original two trilogies were conceived of as six films of which the first film was number four." Lucas backed this up with a 1980 interview with the L.A. Reader, stating "Star Wars is really three trilogies, nine films... it won't be finished for probably another 20 years."
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The supershadow site has had posted for years alleged outlines for 7, 8 & 9. I take them w/ a huge grain of salt, but he had 1, 2 & 3 pretty well nailed. He's also got the alleged outline for Indy 5. Again: huge grains of salt. Just FYI.
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This movie no longer exists to me. The skulls are almost certainly alien, Shia is almost certainly Indy's son. I'm done with this movie.
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But hey, enjoy that Aliens VS Predator movie that did so well.
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and no one gives a fuck, will we finally be able to strip George Lucas of his genius title.
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My info came from Wookieepdia. It's kind of interesting, especially Gary Kurtz stuff. It's interesting how the SW kind of lost its edge after he stoped producing. There is a little bit of an out line of what the end of the OT was supposed to be then how it would pick back up in a final trilogy.
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he is always like 'take your shoes off and get in the kitchen and cook me something involving bacon grease.' and i'm always like 'i can't cook and i'm busy eating bonbons and watching battlestar galactica.' i am a useless wife.
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Search your feelings; you know it to be true.
The circle is now complete: The rise, fall, and redemption of Anakin Sywalker.
I would love to see more SW films, but I realize there is no logical reason to continue the story.
Still want the series to continue, sad to see it end? Me too, but consider this in the context of these sage words my fellow fans...
"The fear of loss is a path to the dark side."
"Death is a natural part of life... Mourn them do not. Miss them do not. Attachment leads to jealousy. The shadow of greed that is."
"Train yourself to let go... of everything you fear to lose."
and "May the force be with us all."
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But I'm going to keep pushing for it. We're the fans and when there's a demand it is usually met. I'm not that crazy about a TV series dealing with the Clone Wars. I want something new, I want what was told to us as kids If Lucas and Company can make up stories for clone wars then make up new stories for Episode 7 8 9. I dont even care if it's done in cartoon style do it however.
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They would just screw up the SW universe even more.
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Feb 05, 2008 6:41:08 PM CST
Update: Sorry Indy fans, by request of the studio, we have taken
by orryn
yawnnnnnnnnn
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I hear you on the clone wars animated show, but it's going to be like eating a piece of dried out, re-heated lasagna. Hopefully the live-action TV series (set between Sith and A New Hope) will be decent. Always wanted the story of how the death star (I) plans were stolen, eh?
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C'mon, someone saved it...
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AWW CRAP!!!
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About how far Lucas and Co. will take the alien thing. Common sense would dictate just what you said, but it stinks so much of Chariots of the Gods again, I am getting paranoid. I truly detest the rewriting history thing.As far as someone complaining about the AvP treatment, I don't know how many others but I know I personally muscled to the front row with the talkback protestations on THAT:)
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and proceeded to wage a war of genocide against the Native Americans. It wasn't our fault after all.
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At least that will be something new. I think I would be happy if they got some Darth Vader stuff in there once in a while. That was his time to shine wasn't it? He was the badest man in town. Actually, if they put Vader in and made it pretty dark it could be great. I kind of felt riped off with Vaders screen time in Episode III, Those were the dark times that Obi spoke of. Anyway, I want to see 7 8 and 9 cause I want to see Luke pass the torch. I've been wanting to see that since I was a kid. And I know I'm asking a lot but I really want Lucas pass the torch on to a new younger writer, director thats hungry.
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You are a gentleman and a scholar, sir!
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I like that title.
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It was just a crystal skull. Wasn't exactly wank-off material.
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that helped the Mayans build their civilization. He's just being modest.
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"First of all, Georgie bay-bee, let's start Anakin off as a teenager, not a little kid. Sorry, Obi Wan is great SUP-porting character so until the big dukeroo, all the main action should go to Anakin, including killing Darth Maul and the battle with Jango Fett (although Jango should have been accidentally disentegrated by Boba, who is then mentored by Anakin, his future employer "No disentegrations!")."Now, the biggest blunder of all, George, is you have the perfect set up for the fall of Anakin Skywalker and you ignore it. Yoda doesn't honor what the Jedi fight for? I mean, this is the guy who told Luke he'd let Han and Leia die if he honored what they fight for. So it should have been Anakin who conscripted the clone army, far exceeding his authority. That means he's the screw up who starts the war, sets up the Empire, etc. He face the Jedi equivalent of a blanket party but is spared by Palpatine, if he'll stand with the Sith."Hey, what are these guys from Ranch security doing here? Oww! Hey!"
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Likewise.
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I still don't remember it, but I trust you.
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