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M Night's THE HAPPENING Teaser!!!
Hey folks, Harry here... When the script for THE HAPPENING leaked out to various web folks - I was one of the few it seemed that loved the script. I think it's a brutal, frightening and haunting script filled with suspense in the best of ways. A film that makes you afraid of a change in the wind. Generating fear in the details you take for granted is the source for the best fear flicks. What's in the shadows, the dark, the water, the woods, the sky, each other... and now what's in the wind, the air... etc. This first teaser shows the brutality of this film, where things happen... all around the characters. It isn't heard on the radio, television... these characters are in for one helluva HAPPENING...
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I think he's a better director than he is a writer. Story-wise, he can be his own worst enemy.
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I dont know about this. Shyamalan is pretty decent I guess, but he fucked the Village up for me. what an unnecessary twist. make the beasts be real, cause then it actually is scary. i dont know. hope this is good.
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in 5... 4... 3... 2...
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...They're always way better than his movies. Looks cool, but gimmicky, like all of his work. He's a concept guy. When he gets ideas, he should give them to others to follow through with, because he kind of sucks at that part.
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I'm excited for this one.
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...sorry, I should've started my post with "1...blast off!!!"
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I know a lot of people hated the Village and Lady, however even if you don't like those movies you should at least respect the fact that Night is trying something original. I really like a lot of his stuff and the Happening is a great idea. I sent an idea like this into Steven Speilberg when I was like 6 years old, it was about all of nature turning on man and killing them, and then at the end (and remember i was 6) the last shot was a space shit in orbit around earth, and earth opened up like a giant mouth and swallowed the ship. hahaha oh the mind of a warped child
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not don't can, which doesn't make any sense. The keyboard used itself! What a twist :)
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The ghost of Fred "Rerun" Berry could definitely cause something like this to happen.
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Terrible title
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Sorkin is a fantastic writer if he's handed a cool idea, but needs like a metric ton of crack to come up with one on his own. Shyamalan comes up with great concepts and then shoves them up his own ass. These two need to shack up.
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Night is fucking lazy as they come. THE HAPPENING? How about calling it TWIST ENDING. Or STUFF GOES WRONG. Or SPOOKY SHIT. Wait, I got it... BOX OFFICE BOMB. Perfect.
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Can't wait for this. Shyamalan + R-rating = Awesomeness
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The Village and his last flick were garbage. I'ma sit this one out on general principle . . .
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Guys let's give M.Night a chance. This guy is talented-but he is an acquired taste.
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been waiting for a new one from this man. personally i think hes an amazing film maker and , tho many of my friends disagree i loved the village and lady in the water just as much as signs and sixth sense. Unbreakable however is his greatest achievement hands down.
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All of the goodwill I had for M. Night (and I had quite a bit after THE SIXTH SENSE, UNBREAKABLE, hell... even SIGNS) has been eroded by the one-two shit punch of THE VILLAGE and LADY IN THE WATER. And lets not forget the self-aggrandizing cluster-fuck that was THE BUIRED SECRET OF M. NIGHT SHYAMALAN. Shameful.
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I refused to see Lady in the Water after the atrocity that was The Village. I fucking hated that movie like none other. This looks pretty good. I still think he should direct someone else's script. That being said, the man has talent, maybe not as much as his ego tells him he does, but it's talent nonetheless.
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and they are tired of always being the bad guys in Hollywood films.
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Unlike Signs, Village and Lady.
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I'm all for giving people more than one chance. He's shown that he has talent, but he just needs to allow other people to help him and not run everything on his own. If he can keep his ego in check, I think Shammy can still deliver great movies. Granted, I say this having not seen Lady in the Water (yet). This mvoie actually looks good. It's picqued my curiosity.
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that the 5 people in the world that liked Lady in the Water would all just happen to post on this talkback? Now that's some spooky shit.
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...but if this sucks as much as his last few have, then the chance/good will/benefit of the doubt officially runs out. I want it to be great. I want a movie as solid as Signs was (minus the ridiculous ending). But his recent schlock has me (and clearly a lot of others) very cautious. Good luck to him on this one - if he strikes out again, it'll seal the deal for anyone who was still giving him a chance.
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Because someone had to say it. Shyamalan is one bad film away from becoming my last favorite director not named Paul Verhoeven. This looks like that film.
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This is a joke, right? Every single line in the film was custom crafted to say FUCK YOU to everyone who has ever criticized Shyamalan. The film is a giant paean to Shyamalan's ego. It's utter drivel.
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BUT I gave the bastard TWO more chances after SIGNS (three, including the aforementioned cluster-fuck "documentary") and he irrevocably screwed the pooch. If it were anyone else I'd give them another shot but Night is a smug motherfucker who views his audience as sheep. I am a sheep no more.
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What's Happening?
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...I feel threatened by people who don't know what makes a good movie. because they're in the majority, and they do soooo much to lower the bar for everyone else. If you think M. Night Shyamalan is so fucking far outside of the box, you need to stop feeding from the Hollywood blockbuster trough. Your "theory" as to why people don't like this filmmaker is delusional and self-aggrandizing. Yeah, we haters just don't get Shyamalan...his ideas are just so fucking out there! Burn him, he's a sorcerer! Decades from now, when he's not working anymore and has disappeared from the spotlight, we will all wonder what happened to the great M. Night, who none of us appreciated until it was too late. Philistines, all of us!
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Actually, that goes for most of the shite movies you hump on this site as well, Harry.
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...in the Imaginationland Trilogy!
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Unbreakable was the best and most believable super hero movie ever filmed... no one else has come close to grounding the tropes of the superhero genre in the real world as well as him... henceforth, genre fans should always be willing to give Night the benefit of the doubt, regardless of past failures
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Has Shamalamadingdong seen Suicide Circle, or Kiyoshi Kurosawa's Cure? He seems to borrow his style from Spielberg (people looking), and the slow pacing of Kiyoshi Kurosawa. I didn't mind Shymalan until his ego got out of control and his movies started sucking hard.
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For the record, I didn't think Village was 1/2 as contemptible as most, but Lady in the Water was a little too silly for my tastes. Unbreakable, though. Good shit.
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Was that Alan Ruck, a.k.a. Cameron Frye, in front of the group of people saying "There appears to be a happening"?
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Happening 3: The Event<br> Happening 4: The Thing that Transpires<br> Happening 5: The Occasion<br> Happening 6: The Taking Place<br> Happening 7: The Neon Rave Party
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Since his last flop. There is honestly too many ideas ripped off from other movies in that teaser to count. I went from his biggest fan to his biggest hater with his last two films. Come'on puss nuts, come up with something more original next.
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Rerun along with Shirley the Waitress jump off the building and crush hundreds of people below.
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That movie was so bad it actually made me angry from watching it. It seriously felt like the movie was insulting me for not liking it. Kind of like how people tell me I don't like "Southland Tales" because I don't "get it." And there were some damn good actors in this one doing some of the worst work in their careers. I never thought it was possible to make Jeffrey Wright look bad before. Very rarely has a movie actually made me hate a filmmaker with such passion, and the movies he did before The Village. Reading Harry's positive review on this one made was a truly sad struggle, it seemed he was basically telling me to think and act like a child to enjoy this one. Well forgive me but I'm an adult and it's arrogant and stupid to tell an audience how to behave.
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Then the eventual "What's Happening: The Return of D" <br> <br> This looks ok. Looks like a TBS special. Don't get me wrong O like Night, but this looks just ok. We'll see.
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I mean, seriously, does anyone have any enthusiasm or confidence in this one-hit wonder? It's like getting excited for a Uwe Boll film. Can we all just finally admit that M. Night is a narcissisist who makes shitty films? Blah blah blah, yes, The Sixth Sense was good, but that came out YEARS ago. It's been crap after crap ever since.
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Someone had to say it.
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I generally abstain from bashing ANY filmmaker (who am I?) or stepping on my fellow geeks' cinematic toes but with M. Night I feel COMPELLED to talk about how unbelievably shitty he is/has become. It's a shame really 'cause he's undeniably good from a technical standpoint. I'm just amazed he can still get decent talent to work on his sub-par material (Roger Deakins on THE VILLIAGE for Christ's sake). So, basically I'm apologizing to all the M. Night fans out there... just scroll on by...
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Every other person who reviewed it online more or less said it sucked. I'm not completely counting it out cause I really love the concept, but take for what you will from that.
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The Village would have made a terrific 22 minute episode.
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the idea of people just losing it and society collapsing isn't new, but at least there are some interesting visuals in this one.
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The first act will be great, then it's all downhill from there.
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...If you were talking about how people just don't get communist era Russian cinema, or that Chris Marker is an acquired taste -- just as a for-instance -- I could buy that for sure. I have at least a toe in both those boats, although I'd be lying if I said I didn't like some of that commie stuff. You, however, are saying that people who don't like Shyamalan just don't get him, and that opens you up to an attack. It's not just an opinion: you are using your personal tastes to elevate yourself above those who "don't get" what you get, and -- trust me -- with Shyamalan, there's not much to get.
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Plant pheremones, right?
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I like Night and his movies especially because of the re-watchability. I notice something new each time I watch them.
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...as if he's Hitchcock. You sir are no Hitchcock.
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Hopefully a return to the darker and edgier fare of 6th Sense and Unbreakable. I know Shyamalan has many dtreactors, but I've alosays founf his films offer something original and uniquely individual. I've never had aproblem with his formulaic 'Twist in the Tail' approach, providing the pay off is equal to the the anticipation and expectations drawn out in the proceedings. I'd sooner watch a film by him than most of the generic horror offerings out there. Plus his relationship with James Newton Howard has yeilded some superb film scores, the opening title cue for Signs, is up there with Hermanns Psycho IMHO.
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Nights been taking a beating for a while, and yeah he seems like hes a dick but I dont care what hes like as a person, this is about his movies. And (for me at least) I think the only real movie of his that really really was a dud was Lady. Sure there was some stupid shit in Signs and Village, but I still liked them, they were still pretty cool over all. Not perfect by any means but still cool. I think the only thing that detracts from his films (or at least those two) is the 'twist' and if there isnt one that works, well damn it he's gonna shoehorn one in there anyway. But whatever, thats his thing, made him famous and put him on the map. I think Nights latest looks good except the retarded title, but I'd take a dumb title with a good movie over a good title and a shitty movie anyday. Anyway I hope this a return for him, looks good so far.
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Queue the annoying song.
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What seems pretty clear to me is that M Night had a great many years to fashion and hone his first few features within the confines of his own head. These features had the benefit of a prolonged gestation process where wrinkles could be ironed out, fat could be trimmed etc . . . But M Night's last few films did not have the benefit of this long, interior revision process. These films feel as if he shook them out of his sleeve. And it shows.
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Sixth Sense. Unbreakable. It's not as if he hasn't made any good (even incredible) movies before jumping the shark. He can come back to form. Hope this will prove it.
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...called Shama-Lama Ding-Dong...<p> so... hit it...
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Yeah, I said it.
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Reminds me of vague 50's B movie titles like "them."
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I hope its good! Nights movies are always entertaining, some are better than others, buts its always an experience, which is more than can be said for a lot of other movies that are made.
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Looks kinda cool...the people dying and stuff kinda reminds me of Stephen King's Cell. I dunno...hopefully it'll be better than The Village (that's the lst one of his movies I saw).
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He wastes, what, twenty minutes of the film on the monster stalking Bryce _after_ revealing that the monsters are just suits? That's just pointless and insulting.
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It all looks very familiar. After movies like 28 Days Later, I Am Legend, and to some extent War of the Worlds. Horrible event and mass hysteria. I still think M. Night has talent, even though I downright hated The Village and Lady in the Water. But "The Man Who Heard Voices" shows that the guy has a huge ego he needs to check. Once he can tone down his own vanity, I think he'll do better.
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This looks tedious. I really loved 6th Sense, and like Unbreakable, and was thinking this guy is the new Spielberg. Then there was signs--especially the actual aliens, and the MacGuffin of them being killed by water--something that only folks in the Middle East could figure out. And M. Knight playing a pivotal role in that film in a terrible way. Then The Village was meh, but I was okay with it, generally. But Lady in the Water was horrible. Almost unwatchable. The only sympathetic character was the critic. I liked him. And he was supposed to be the bad guy, in M. Knight's warped view of the creative process.
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a bad, fucking joke from a bad, fucking director
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it's like a train wreck that i can't look away from. i know by watching the donger's trailers i'm going to become furious and vitriolic, and yet instead of wandering over to some nice TB about kittens and roses, i watch the frakking trailer. *sigh*<p>for his defenders, i think what those of us who are haters really really hate, above all, is the arrogance of a filmmaker who thinks he knows about the human condition, and he's gonna tell us, and we're gonna like it. see, he thinks his films aren't supposed to be horror, they're supposed to be ART. he is SO ALL-KNOWING, and we are just a bunch of cretins who have to have it fed to us through a derivative story with a twist in it, a seriously lazy element of storytelling, just to put the nail in the coffin. i myself agree wholeheartedly that his films are always well-acted and excellently designed, and, of course, he gets awesome cinematographers and editors on the payroll as well. but an unassuming, poorly-designed, poorly-shot film like 'once' has more impact than m night's work because we're not being condescended to. i'll probably be taken to task for my somewhat circuitous logic, but that's ok, i'm secure in my hatin'.<p>richard, did you watch the 3 1/2-hour doc on the blade runner dvd? it's fascinating!
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Christopher3, the twist is all of those people had just attended an M. Night movie marathon.
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We shall see...
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i was just thinking about you earlier coz i came across an interesting article on the international herald tribune website about a film school for marines. check it out, it's on the 'americas' link.
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That's what's happening. Eh not sure how you'll structure a horror around that concept.
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Latino Review loved it.
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Feb. 4, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST
Hopefully M. Night is one more flop away from an Unbreakable Seq
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I mean, come on.
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although 6th sense was ok if a bit gimmiky (i figured it out at the dinner scene)....and unbreakable, his best in my opinion, was a really cool superhero origin story...Signs was contrived and sucked...the village was a really weak film...havnt seen lady so I cant say but the reviews steered me away....well he's not the great filmmaker some think he is.
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His only real dud was lady. And I still thought it was ok, just had too much whinning. Otherwise he's a phenomenal director and writer and should get way more credit than he does. I'm excited.
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If I remember correctly, we had no cause to know that the person in the suit was mentally ill. All we knew was that someone was still stalking her in one of the monster suits. That Shyamalan continues to play the scene straight, aided by a disgustingly manipulative James Newton Howard score, just heightens the insult.
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M. Night is one of the best directors out there. He makes brilliant movies that are a lot of fun. Those out there that hate his work wouldn't know a good movie if it knocked them off a building.
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...Still looks good though. But so do all of Nights trailers. If the film ends up sucking as much dick as Signs, The Village and Lady In The Water, than he'll be on a hell of a streak.
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His scores are consistently bright spots in M. Night's inconsistent oeuvre. He's probably one of my favorite working composers right now.<p> I liked: Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs.<p> I didn't like: The rest of them. They weren't terrible but they had enough problems that I couldn't give them a pass... At least M. Night movies always look and sound great, though.
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You guys seethe about M. Night like he was Uwe Boll. Jesus, let's keep things in perspective, shall we?
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OK, I like this guy. I think in a Hollywood stuffed with Len Wiseman and Brett Ratner types all trying (and failing) to be the new Jim Cameron, M Night deserves a little respect for doing his own thing. He's like an arthouse blockbuster director in a funny kind of way. Lady in the Water was a vanity project that didn't work but still has some interesting sequences and beautiful photography from Christopher Doyle. The Village is way underrated and I think will be re-evaluated in years to come. Signs and The Sixth Sense are solid genre pictures. And Unbreakable is a little masterpiece, I hope M Night gets some money from the Heroes guys for ripping him off. It's sad that his star power has fallen from Bruce Willis and Mel Gibson to Marky Mark, but this still looks like an interesting project. I'm prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt.
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EXACTLY!!! over-rated hollywood hack indeed. well unbreakable was kinda cool.
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With M. NIGHT's films everything is possible.
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The Man Who Heard Voices is amazing book about the whole process of M. Night making of Lady in the Water. This movie.... the title is kinda lazy but I like M. Night. and I'll be in the theater when this comes out.
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but at least he's doing something original. you can't knock it out of the park every time, and i respect the fact that he's making original films that look terrific (some weak plot points notwithstanding). That being said, this is the worst movie title in recent memory. It's like they couldn't come up with an actual name, so someone threw out, "Let's just call it 'The Happening' and be done with it."
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That looks pretty cool.
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"The Green Effect" was a much, much better title. At least it was intriguing.
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...Would have worked better if he hadn't tried to build it as a suprise twist revelation thingy. The idea was an interesting one to explore. Just not in the last 5 minutes of what had been a pretty good monster movie though.
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...I also think Nights a fucking good director. His scripts are what I take issue with generally. But his films, minus issue I have with the story or characters, are fucking well made. Even the lump of shit that was Lady In The Water.
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Out of the blue, everybody goes apeshit. It was the phones in Cell. I didn't see anything about trees in the teaser. Where'd that idea come from?
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...yawn.
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Feb. 4, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST
Finally excited to see another Shymalamadingdong movie
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Haven't read "Cell" yet, either. Might just pick that up, now.
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couldn't tell exactly what was "happening", but from what I could tell, maybe M Night should take a break from his original material and take a swing at King's Cell.
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didn't see those previous posts...cue spooky music..
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How come it's just well-shot genre tosh with twists? Unbreakable; superheroes who aren't super. The Sixth Sense; ghosts just want help with their afterlives. Signs: Aliens in the Corny religious allegory. The Village: the Crucible for scientologists. Yes he has symbolic colour-sense but that should be a PREREQUISITE for any post-Hitchcock filmmaker. I've never saw a Shymalan film that wasn't a disappointment. he's the Scooby Doo film-maker; look kids: it was just a man in a sheet after all.
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i always admire people who put their money where their mouths are, especially since i am a loudmouthed no-goodnik myself. i hope the program succeeds.<p>horned one, i do know good movies. i also enjoy many, many bad movies; i am egalitarian. but i do not enjoy being preached to, cinematically. better to rent 'rope' and enjoy a real masterwork of the genre.
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Yeah, that was exactly my thought as well. I'm surprised we got this far in the feed back without someone else noticing that. M. Night's films have been on a bit of a decline since 'Signs' (which is a classic, and no one can tell me otherwise). All must admit the greatness of his early films and the glimmers of greatness in his later films. The man can create a mood, no doubt. Instead of just flinging shit around like hapless monkeys, why don't we give the dude a chance. If you doubt, don't bother seeing it till feedback comes in. And seriously, Mark Wahlberg has been making some pretty solid choices lately. I'm there.
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Details a very narcissistic man who ignores concerns about his Lady script. I can't imagine how pleased all those people were that Lady turned out to be the vanity shit-fest it was predicted to be.
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This looks insane. Seems dark as hell too...
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I kind of think that the Sixth Sense gets more street cred than it deserves. It's a very polished piece of work, no doubt. But as a story it feels very writerly, heavily manipulated. The thing about M. Night's films is that he's such a shameless self promoter that if you go into his movies with writing structure in mind and start looking for twists they're pretty easy to find. That being said I liked Unbreakable, even if it crawls a little bit. I absolutely loathe Signs, and find it really hard to swallow some of the plot contrivances and cliches that movie throws at you. I can't fathom how anyone could look past stuff like the most nonsensical alien attack in cinema history, the Swing Merryl Swing cheese of the preacher with no faith plot, or M Night's awful performance as The Plot Device. If aliens tried to attack us like they did in this movie they would get their shit fucked up, rain or not. I don't think the Village was as bad as people make it out to be, I liked the idea but it was fairly predictable and the ending is clunky. I didn't see Lady in the Water because it looked absolutely awful. I have a little bit of a sick curiosity to watch it though. This trailer actually looked kind of cool, I'm hoping the take on this idea is a bit more original than it comes off in the trailer. I mean Masters of Horror did an episode like this last year, he just shellacks these old chestnuts and then toots his own horn so hard that we're forced to hold him to a higher standard. The man would have much more respect if he just got over himself and removed his name from marketing and promotion. But I guess "An M. Night S(???) film" still means something to people.
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I love M. Night's movies. They always have great characters and great stories. I don't care what anybody says about how his movies are all about twists or how they're too structured. This looks fucking cool. I want to know why this Happening is......em....going on?
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Watch it again, and forget that you read a spoiler about it. It was a very good movie.
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'Let my Cameron Gooooooo'
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with a very fine skript, me sayeth, and notte at all like Nathaniel Hawthorne played by the the cast at Medieval Tymes.
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I have ever since seeing Wide Awake. I know I'm in the minority here but I have enjoyed every film the director has made. I also happen to love his scripts. My favorite is the Village. That one connected with me on a personal level more than any other. I remember seeing it the day it opened with my sister. I felt like I'd just watched, without question, one of the best films of the year. After the credits were done rolling I turned to her and found her pissed off about the ending. She said it ruined the movie for her. To each their own. I think the films he makes appeals to a certain crowd. Some will appreciate all that he has made so far, others will only enjoy some of them. What I don't understand is all of this intense hatred towards his work. The Sixth Sense is one of my all time favorite films, Unbreakable is a fantastic superhero origin story, Signs is perhaps his BEST film (despite seeing the Aliens in the end) as it's a movie more about faith (like all of his films are on some level), but the way it is orchestrated is just fantastic and completely satisfying on an emotional level. Now the big question people probably want to know from me: Did I like Lady in the Water? Yeah. I loved it on some level. I'm not sure I felt immediate love for it like some of his other films but it was good overall. For those of you who hate him for two films... that's just silly. All director's can be hit and miss with an audience sometimes. That doesn't mean they are incapable of ever producing another truly great film which can be enjoyed by everyone. I am anticipating The Happening (I have the movie poster hanging up in my room!). I have it on display next to my Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull and Grindhouse posters. Soon (probably tomorrow) I will be adding my Zodiac poster to the wall. I consider M. Night one of my all time favorite film-makers right along side Steven Spielberg, Quentin Tarantino, David Fincher, Christopher Nolan, Paul Thomas Anderson, Akira Kurosawa, Cameron Crowe, Sam Mendes... etc. The list could go on for days. The point is: I feel that other people feel the same way about his films as I do. He still has an audience. He is still a young director (only in his early 30's), and has produced some of my favorite films over the past eight years. I'll gladly go where decides to take me with his films. They are always among my most anticipated, and appreciated, movies.
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EXACTLY!!! over-rated hollywood hack indeed. well unbreakable was kinda cool.
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I will be honest that Unbreakable was mr Nights last good movie, signs was ok, but let us never speak of the last two movies he did. But this has me interested, people killing themselves for no reason!?, count me in. now as long as his cameo is short or non exsistent then I will be happy.
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I loved all his movies, with the exception of TSS because it felt a bit meh...I genuinely think he's great and not just because he deals with monsters and aliens. He knows exactly how to get a good performance out of his cast. He knows where he wants the camera to go and when. So many people I know let out and "Ugh" or an "Agh" when I mention his name and I really can't fathom why. I don't think he's god but I think he makes great movies. I mean jesus, is there anybody out there you guys don't hate?
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I was not a total fan of The Village. I should never have read Harry's review since it gave away the plot. I have not seen Lady In The Water yet. But I loved Signs, Unbreakable and 6th Sense. This movie looks creepy as hell. Very panic inducing. I won't read a single review until I see it. Give him credit for writing his own stories and being creative. Not another stupid remake or Rambo Part 17.
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Harry is not alone. I also really liked the script. The only place I think they went wrong is the casting. I read the lead with Adrien Brody in mind. A teacher, a sensitive guy who plays guitar. Not Mark Wahlberg. But we'll see. Lady in the Water sucked but other than that, Night knows how to bring the goods. And The Man Who Heard Voices is one of the most fascinating books I've ever read. Count me in the group of people who think Night is brilliant. Sometimes he just operates on a different level than his audience and it backfires, a la Lady.
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His name is Genpion.
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Rerun is dead anyway. Did he jump off the building?
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Based on what? Kubrick was brilliant, M. Night got lucky once.
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Based on what? Kubrick was brilliant, M. Night got lucky once.
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.....like ALL of M.Night's films... 'nuff said! BTW MiraJeff-If MNS is struggling to get movies made these days, he probably cast Marky Mark to sell more tickets. Which is fine by me! MW is a very underrated actor BTW!
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I agree, if you watch the village realizing that it is not a scary movie but simply a love story it is way better. Its actually a great story that shows the power of love. Love is blind, and she'll even feel her way through woods full of deathly creatures to keep that love alive
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...forgot to add. UNBREAKABLE is his best EVER!...
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The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, and The Village. Good - Signs, Lady in the Water. Brilliant writer, director, and not that bad of an actor either.
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And you people drool and fall in love. This guy writes and creates his own original movies and everyone is on his case. Sorry. He needs to remake Lortd of the Rings instead. Or do a zombie movie from the zombie's point of view. Wooohoooo. How about something great like Superman Returns? NOT. M. Night is great.
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but you know what? I'm gonna be okay. I can't this. He's gonna come home and see it. No.. I'm glad it happened. Because he's gonna have to deal with me. He can't ignore this. Its gonna be...SREEEEEEEEEEECRASH!!!!!!<p> dude. you killed the car.
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http://tinyurl.com/2qqhs8
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One. Trick. Pony.
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...I'm sure the only funny part in the whole movie is the NAIL GUN!
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the fact that the dragonfly guy was upside down and lowered himself for his crotch to be at the girl's head level was pretty good...but who knows...hopefully superhero movie is better than meet the spartans (which i won't ever see)
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It was just a dream. Every 10 year old is blown away by the lazy writing.
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special ed to be precise.
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bad advertising
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Sorry, but I am :(
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Why is everyone commiting mass suicide?
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Looks just like it
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a new metallica album. People will always be interested no matter how shitty the last one was.
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SUICIDE CLUB was good, nay, great. No doubt this will suck as hard as everything M Night has done since UNBREAKABLE (his only really good movie, btw).
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"how about...everyone kills themselves because of subliminal messages in a pop song. OMG WE'RE SO PROFOUND"
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he should stop with this "M Night" horseshit. say your first name and fuck away with highlighting your middle name as a 1st name. douchebag.
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Even Hitchcock made some turds...we just don't remember them. 30 years from now I predict he will still be talked about as one of the greats. It's just that nobody will mention The Village, or Lady in the Water.
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Otherwise, Mark Wahlberg may jump out of the darkness and kick my ass. <p> In only his Calvins...
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while rapping
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I am a former M. Night fan who agrees with the majority. His more recent films have really ruined the reputation he built up over his first two or three movies. But I don't get this BS of "twists" and all his movies having "twists" and going out of their way to have "twists." This is BS. If M. Night made Scoobey Doo 3 people would accuse him of putting in another twist by revealing who the crimical is. If M. Night shot an episode of CSI they would say him revealing the killer would be a "twist" and bash him for it. Most of his movies don't have "twists". That is the misinformation of ignorant film watchers.
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Feb. 4, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST
Even M. Night haters have to admit the man knows his way...
by rbatty024
around a camera. He creates great atmosphere and suspense. However, his scripts recently have left much to be desired. The Village and, from what I've heard, Lady in the Water were atrocities. But if you don't at least acknowledge the man is talented then I think you just have some weird vendetta. I'll take a wait in see approach on his new movie. If someone else had written the script maybe I would be more excited.
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its such a SWEEEEeeeet sensation<p> Mr. Walberg knows how to pick a movie - I've yet to see one that I did not entirely enjoy watching.<p> I dont care if Mr. "Harry has a vendetta" Ratner was directing this, I'd watch it because Mr. Walberg seems to realize that any given movie could be his last, so he makes sure they're all movies he can be proud of.
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M. Night just filmed what happened when people heard he was making another movie? ...okay, lame joking aside, I will probably see this one when it comes out (despite the presence of Marky Mark). The shot of the people jumping off the building was pretty darn cool. And I'm wondering how the hell everyone is going to escape something that's airborne.
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I am supposed to hate Night but like Luc Besson. I don't think so.
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I thought it was supposed to be exploitative and creepy; two counts on which it succeeds immensely! M Night is the guy who tries desperately to be profound and comes off more like a troubled, attention starved 10 year old absolutely convinced that he's a genius (although everyone else knows he's full of shit).
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I love Kloipy's script, 'the last shot was a space shit in orbit around earth, and earth opened up like a giant mouth and swallowed..' is certainly something I'd love to see! LOLOL That is going to keep me giggling for the rest of the week!
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Maybe all the suicidal people forgot to switch to Geico?
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After "The Signal" and now this, will they really make another movie about the same thing? Pity, as I would have liked to King's version on the screen, shame these pretenders made it out of the gate first. I guess Eli Roth will be looking for another project, if he hasnt given up already.
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Thats what I heard.
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He is a great director who clearly takes a few pages from Hitchcock. He is also a delusional egoist who struggles to write a good story. I hope no one ever pays him to write a script again, but I wouldn't mind seeing him direct a good script someone else wrote. And I don't care if Harry liked the script, the story sounds pretty stupid to me.
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At first we all thought he was a gifted director, BUT then we find out he's actually kinda mediocre-to-awful.
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like it is going to be laughably bad. His last few films have been gloriously crap, and the premise of this fim promises to continue this tradition.
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I also saw similarities in the trailer and king's book, really wanted to see a movie version of it does anyone (harry, since you are tight with roth?) know if its still in the works?
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Continued
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this just looked like people suddenly deciding to be cunts, tbh...
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You know, the one where everyone goes nuts the moment they realize the secret of life? That was a classic, by the way.
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This reminds me of that book by King. Sadly it was another one of his distinctly average efforts, a stopgap book, but it would obviously make a good movie in a Dawn of the Dead style.
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The Happening is an allegory where the victims in the real world (all things green and leafy) have their roles switched with the criminals of the real world (los humanos). The humans being offed are symbolic and representative of the trees and plants of our earth and how our toxic secretions and excretions are destroying them. It's all very...clever. Ruminate.
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sorry was referring to the cell project
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Six Sense was good and that is where it ends. He has made enough bad movies to ruin his reputation.
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I'll see it.
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long time no. always nice to get a ping from the heydays of tORN.<p>klo, he's right, your idea is brazills. you should re-send it to spieley, and if he passes i'm sure romanek would love to have it, i hear he's out of a job. *tee hee*
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sorry, i am shift-key-impaired.
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damn typos
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People commit suicide because the trees start emitting a toxin due a mutation stimulated from pollution. <p>The only solution: Burn down all the trees. <p>What are all the monkey's going to do? Hmm? They can't swing from shrubs.
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People commit suicide because the trees start emitting a toxin due a mutation stimulated from pollution. <p>The only solution: Burn down all the trees. <p>What are all the monkies going to do? Hmm? They can't swing from shrubs.
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Apparently, plants are releasing a neurotoxin that causes everyone to commit suicide and Marky Mark and his family have to somehow survive. Jesus, if wikipedia is more willing to give us the goods than AICN, what does that say about this site?
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I salute you for having the balls to write, "Sometimes he just operates on a different level than his audience and it backfires, a la Lady."<p>I don't agree, but it takes some stones to insinuate that M Night is on a different level than the audience, and THAT is why he has misfires.<p>did you SEE the village? did you wait all the way til the ending? what level was he operating on then?<p>From Roger Ebert's review of The Village:<p>"Eventually the secret of Those, etc., is revealed. To call it an anticlimax would be an insult not only to climaxes but to prefixes. It's a crummy secret, about one step up the ladder of narrative originality from It Was All a Dream. It's so witless, in fact, that when we do discover the secret, we want to rewind the film so we don't know the secret anymore.<p> And then keep on rewinding, and rewinding, until we're back at the beginning, and can get up from our seats and walk backward out of the theater and go down the up escalator and watch the money spring from the cash register into our pockets."<p>pretty harsh, but most people I know over the age of 12 agreed. The Village was so god awful horrendous, he lost me for a while. I didn't even see Lady in the Water because it seemed to be more of the same. <p>that said, this one has Zooey Deschanel, my favorite actress. (maybe not the best out there, but very good and completely adorable). and that is instilling a feeling of cognitive dissonance in me that is reaching epic levels. I might actually pay to see this in theaters.<p>or I could just go see Cell with a picture of her. pretty close.
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met m. night and a lot of the crew, and everyone was extremely nice, so i'm hoping this is a return to form for shayamalan. check out my youtube site youtube.com/leeburjayproductions where i'll soon be posting my videos and pictures from that trip!
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youtube.com/leeburjayproductions***
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I thought THE SIXTH SENSE was ground breaking for the time. UNBREAKABLE, SIGNS were okay. I was one of the few who really liked THE VILLAGE. I praised and defended M Night for THE VILLAGE relentlessly. But then LADY IN THE WATER happened. My jaw dropped. I was devestated for once... I agreed with most everyone. And the worst part of that movie for me, was M Night casting himself as the all important writer of the future. Sure he was angry at the critics and all at the time, but come on. I think that was one of most arrogant casting choices he ever made. And the movie itself was unwatchable. It felt like M Night was out to prove something... and if anything... he proved he made a really really bad movie. So my walls are up. Sure I'd love for M Night to make another good movie. I just hope he learned some humility on the last round and grounded himself back to what he does best. Let's all hope he lost that huge head he also had - as I'm sure that's what got him in the mess in the first place.
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The largest collection of whiners on the Web. You can't honestly think that M. Night makes some of the worst movies in Hollywood. If you do, then clearly you haven't seen that many.
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the guy likes Twilight Zone stuff. What's so wrong about that. I've never seen a Twilight Zone episode that was just like his movies. At least he isn't remaking a 70's horror movie. He's writing his own characters and trying something different. Even if you hate Lady in the Water it sure as hell isn't like anything else out there. Look at Unbreakable, that's pretty original if you ask me. Hell, even Star Wars can be accused of stealing from genre's and different films. Isn't almost anything inspired by something before it. Even if it is an homage to something that the director/writer loved, what's wrong with that? I'm sure you would be influenced by something you loved if you were to make a movie.Sorry this reply is so late
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Ha ha! <br><br> Seriously though, I really liked the teaser. I'm sucker for these movies, where the whole world turns to shit. Also looking forward to The Signal and Cell.
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has grabbed a clue and stops thinking he is so clever. just let it happen instead of creating the vibe of 'see? aren't i just sooooo clever?'. it gets old. fast.
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Feb. 4, 2008, 6:15 p.m. CST
I don't think Night makes the worst movies in Hollywood.
by BillyPilgrim
I think he makes the most disappointing movies in Hollywood.
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Dogs and cats living together!
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Kinda cool.
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They kept advertising Lady as a horror film and it's NOT. I didn't like the Village that much when I first saw it, but goddamn has it grown on me. I'll get excited about anything the guy does...
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I watched a bit of it. some good ideas, but they really suffer with the shitty budgets on TV sometimes. horrendous CGI and green screen work, and a lot of awkwardly small sets, it really detracts.<p>Zooey was SO cute in it, but I think it was just a noble failure. a few good moments, but it should have been a 2 hour theatrical release.
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The scene with the Alien at the Brazillian party freaked the shit out of me because I had an idea just like it.
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Whats the deal with the dummy on the right falling from the building?
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from Latino Review, this site, as well as several others. In fact, I've yet to see a negative one. And that's from an early draft of the script too. I want this to be his return to form and I think it will be.
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This is going to be another snoozefest!
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I hope it is a good movie.<p>All I know though if I see a barrel of purple kool aid being passed around and the main character's name is Jim Jones then I am OUT!!!
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....Huh?
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I think people are beating up on M. Night because it's become the edgy thing to do among talkbackers, many of whom are operating at the maturity level of thirteen year olds (some because they're actually that old in real life.) What really fricking bugs me is how many talkbackers act like pretentious film critics, trying to figure out some way of piling on the snark. What I read from them doesn't indicate to me that they have any special love of film. M. Night's not perfect, but I've seen every one of his films save the last one. And do you know what I say? He knows how to tell a meaningful story in a meaningfully original way. He, like Spielberg, knows how to make the shots and the editing of a film meaningful, to be true filmmakers. I think with the village, the twist that matters isn't at the end, it's in the middle. That's the one that I think makes the film. Is the final secret the most profound? By no means. But it's meaningful, and I think it comments a lot on our nostalgia for the old days. I mean, the movie starts with the funeral of a character's young son. This is what people are sacrificing for the distance from the modern world and its vices. What happens to Brody's character in the course of the film brings into question whether leaving modernity always means leaving the darker sides of our nature behind.
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Yay, Cameron's in a new movie!
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Starring Ken Watanabe as Son Of The Donger. <p> Rated PG for Preetty GIIRRLL!!!!
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Feb. 4, 2008, 7:03 p.m. CST
WILL M. NIGHT SCHLOMOLAND MAKE A CAMEO AS A SAPLING?
by BringingSexyBack
Because his acting sure is wooden. <p> Thank you, thank you. I'll be here every Monday night. Please be generous and leave tips for our waiters.
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they're Christians and they're going to a better place! What a tweeest!
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I wish I had read your post before I wrote mine. Now I feel embarassed to fit your description of the typical TBer. *Blushes*
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I, also, have LOVED every single one of his movies, haters and Roger Ebert be damned (and I can't think of an Ebert review that's ever been more blatantly wrong and point-missing). I also agree that he tells wonderful stories that draw me in, make me care about the characters and puts me on the edge of my seat (including Lady in the Water!). This new one certainly looks a bit darker and more violent. I'm curious to see what the next stage is for MNS. And hey, wasn't the construction worker the guy who plays Richie, the retarded brother on Rescue Me?
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1) If they think their children or grandchildren would never find themselves wandering out, those fuckers are nuts. And when they do, they are ill-prepared to deal with the real world and will be assraped inside of a minute. <p> 2) Airplanes. Where are they? <p> 3) They are racist. They want to isolate themselves from the minorities. Sometimes I do too but you don't see me going to such lengths. I just go to the spa. <p>
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Because I was in REM sleep by the middle of the fucking movie.
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Totally off the mark.
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Can I make you a cocktail? <p> J/k ~~~~ It's ok to love the Shamanna..
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1) Irrelevant. Although it would've been interesting if The Village had a THX-1138 esque plot. One of the younger villagers deciding to break away out of human curiousity, etc.<br><br> 2) The ending explains that the area over the nature reserve is restricted airspace. <br><Br> 3) M. Night Shyamalan is a minority.
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...who don't bother to justify their opinions with any actual proof of WHY film is bad...instead they just rant and drool because the truth is they just don't LIKE a film, or a director, or a writer... unfortunately, that doesn't mean the film, or the director, or the writer is BAD... Freedom of speech is over-rated.
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Feb. 4, 2008, 7:37 p.m. CST
At What Point will Shamy come onto the screen to fill all the ho
by evolution1085
I'd like to fast forward to that part when I download it, saves me the effort of sitting through the preamble to his douchebaggery
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Sorry you didn't like The Village, but the airplane thing was explained. I forget the name, but the William Hurt character basically used his father's fortune to build the preserve, and used a big chunk of the money to bribe the government to make the area around it a no fly zone.
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I remember your posts on the TB discussing The Happening's one-sheet. You've posted a little since, but you pop up again here, posting like mad, on this new Happening TB. And again with your over-zealous defenses of M. Night and his past work. I remember on the last TB you knew what movies the Happening would be "going up against" when it's released (this for a movie due in June). Not something a casual fan would know.<p> Not a casual fan, though, are you Tivo? Seriously, what's the deal? It's pretty clear you're a plant; just be honest with us.
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Feb. 4, 2008, 7:42 p.m. CST
Mother Nature Stikes back, Pollen Spores mutate and Cause Us Too
by ThePilgrim
The film doesnt have a twist cause it's known already. Therefore whyt see it... When his other films needed the twist
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http://tinyurl.com/2abhq9<p> Tivo's posts<p> On MNS being a douche- "Never got how he comes off as a douche by TiVo1138 Dec 7th, 2007 07:55:24 PM Is there some sort of documentary or something where he's an asshole? <p> "While The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, and Signs were all about faith,--faith in one another, faith in one's self, and faith in something BIGGER than one's self--The Village and Lady in the Water are obviously protest songs. And Ebert's review of The Village completely missed the mark. The movie is ABOUT deception. Everything's a lie, including the supernatural. Shyamalan himself has acknowledged that that's why the movie angered a lot of people. In my opinion, it makes it no less great than his other movies." <p> PrettyNursePoppy by TiVo1138 Dec 7th, 2007 09:35:00 PM "That says nothing about Night's character. It just points out that Michael Bamberger had a ridiculous man-crush on him." <p> "I've read the book, so you don't need to take excerpts from it. Taken out of context, those would make him sound like a douche. While I found the author of the book to be all too adoring of Night, I still think it portrayed him as human, eager-to-please, and insecure. A conceited, egomaniac, asshole however, I don't see... at least not any moreso than other directors."<p> "It'll be competing against Hulk... by TiVo1138 Dec 8th, 2007 10:44:30 PM same opening weekend."<p> Man, Maybe you're just an avid fan, but my sixth sense is picking up chlorophyll here.
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I bet the same people who liked The Village also liked Crash.<p>both were bloated vanity exercises that collapsed under their own perceived weight. I swear to god, anyone that didn't see the ending of the village coming is not too bright. and anyone that saw it coming but was still satisfied has very low expectations.<p>and not for nothing, it wasn't just Ebert who eviscerated it in reviews.42% at rottentomatoes, got panned by some major critics.<p>but hey, it made over $200 million worldwide, and Crash won an Oscar. there's no accounting for taste, I guess.
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1) It is relevant. Surely they must know that, though their intentions were to safeguard their children, they can't expect their heirs to remain isolated forever. 10, 20 years on ... actually it would make them mad to live in isolation for fear of monsters. Much crueler than living in the real world. And with only 5 families in the village there's bound to be some incest later on. That's kinky and sexy, but still teh nasty. <p> 2) I know that Hurt paid off the gummint to keep the preserve fenced off and airplanes out, but at some point they will see something in the far distance. It's inevitable. Then the children will be worshipping dragons in the sky. Do we want that?<p> 3) I know Shamoana is a minority but that doesn't excuse the fact there are none in the Village. Just a buncha crackaZ in holing themselves in da woods for fear of a black planet.
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Get up early and vote vote vote!!
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Why weren't they in a Malt Shop?
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Although M. Night's films have been getting worse, this one looks cool. Village was a disappointment, and Lady was downright silly. I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but laugh at most of the "serious" parts of that film. I don't know where he was trying to go with it...
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What about the animals do they die too? Also, why is he ripping off I am Legend?
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Some kind of 11th hour plot-twist half the audience figured out already, rolled their eyes to, and quietly left the theatre after.
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I wonder if "What"s Happening" is on TV Land tonight. I love Rerun
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I mean, if you sit in the theater and TRY to figure out "the twist", you can usually do it. If you let the story take you then you're surprised no matter what. I think he set the bar too high with The Sixth Sense, now everyone thinks hes a one-trick pony, so if his scripts don't have a trick to them, people think they're worthless. I, for one, liked the sixth sense the LEAST of his movies. Signs and Unbreakable, particularly the latter, are fucking great movies. I have never been so moved by a performance as I was by Bruce's sadness and sense of loss throughout the entire movie. And Lady in the Water was just pure fun. It was self referential and wink wink, but WHO CARES? Stop looking for him to "top" the sixth sense, and realize that he's making different movies, each with its own themes and merits and they don't all need a twist, you fat fucks.
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he has sucked since, but maybe he can comeback
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I don't think you're going to win anyone over with that argument by punctuating it with "fat fucks". Just a thought.
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For Avatar: The Last Airbender to come out. Its the best series on television and it will have the same impact LotR and Star Wars had on cinema. M Night is the perfect choice to direct this trilogy, too. Let it be said that I was the first to mention this then you can all bow before me!
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Narnia 2 is about all the jeebus I can take in mainstream film for one year.
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unbreakable: we know from the TITLE that bruce willis is some kind of superhero and he finds out: at the end.......the sixth sense: we know the kid can see dead people and the whole film leads up to others finding that out, and bruce willis finds out he IS breakable afterall.....signs: we know the aliens are coming, that's the point of the movie, the twist is that the aliens have the same weakness as bruce willis (water)....the village was predictable from about 10 minutes in and there were no monsters, what the hell, we didn't even need bruce willis for this one...lady in the water: she hides in the one place bruce willis's unbreakable dude can't get to her, under a swimming pool - there were LOTS of monsters and yet there was no twist, just that m night thinks he deserves to save the world since bruce willis isn't around
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Is this going to be one of those "Day After Tomorrow" things where Al Gore tells us that the movie has a vital message and is only a little scientifically inaccurate in order to be more dramatic? I mean, it could be good, maybe, I guess... but my lord, this premise sounds too dumb for words.
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Signs didn't have a twist ending. Neither did Lady in the Water. There were some elements of the Village that I liked. As a whole, it could have been better. Lady in the Water... he re-used too many elements: broken family, reluctant hero, etc. People are being a little too hard on the guy. In the age of Michael Bay editing, Night has a lot of restrain when it comes to blocking his scenes. He lets the scenes play in masters. He creates mood really well and he takes chances. lates.
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Aliens who have the ability to travel across vassssst space are going to land on a planet that has a major oceans, lakes, rivers, swimming pools, glasses of water, that are like acid to them; they will lanbd on said planent (with nary a rain coat in sight) and hope to dominate. I understand Suspension of disbelief but...CMMMMON. The hot dog I microwaved too long then fed to my dog who shat it out in a show of dysentary rebellion which then was forced into the unseemly position of host to maggots could have penned a better film. Just saying. Unbreakable rules though.
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I've liked all Night's films! Sixth Sense - awesome! Unbreakable - really really awesome! Signs - Interesting and suspenseful! never saw the Village, Lady in the Water - I liked for the quirky cast of characters that I feel made the movie! Good directing all around, and the guy tries for some unique stories. From what I hear, I don't think Signs, Village and Lady were supposed to have 'twist endings' I think we're getting 'twist endings' confused with general plot revelations towards the climax which generally happens with many films... Maybe that's why people were not digging the flicks, they thought the non existant twists they were expecting sucked! What a twist! And what a bunch of twits!
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tim matheson, meg tilly... everyone loses the ability to control their impulses... maybe not
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Thoough I do like Shyamalan.
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And I did like both "Crash" and "Village".
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Feb. 4, 2008, 9:56 p.m. CST
Defenders, its not his talent thats the problem, it's his hubris
by Lyghthouse
I remember Moriarty's Lady in the Water review, and that review completely sums up my problems with M. Night. He's an extremely talented filmmaker, but his own hubris has tainted his artistic skills.
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"The Lady in the Sensual Village." Coming this summer. A 27-year old administrative assistance vacations at a nudist resort in hopes of finding herself. But she's going to get more than she bargained for...
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Why's everyone killing themselves? <p>Everyone suddenly realizes they're in another shitty M. Night movie.<p>Just kidding, I love Night, but shit, that knitting needle thing was literally fucking ripped out of Cell. Why the fuck don't people admit that Cell inspired a lot of shit. And you can say well 'blah-blah' was finished before Cell was in print, but whatever, the story could have been done and in the hands of some fucking loudmouthed editors, or chatted about with some of King's friends, and they spilled the beans...What I'm saying is, this Happening sounds like a real rip-off. I liked Lady in the Water. I don't know why, I just did. There was a quirk to it that grabbed me. Southland Tales? Errrr....Still haven't seen it, but I'm going to slot it in there with Cremaster 3 and What Is It? Stuff I'll put on my bucket (of effete shit I better see before I get too old to give a shit) list.<p>Why is it when shit starts falling in movies, the guy just fucking stands there, looking shocked/sad/bewildered, instead of running his ass off to get to someplace with a nice thick ceiling to prevent human remains from hitting him? Dammit, movies, straighten this shit up already.<p>And, lastly, I figured out the Sixth Sense about twenty minutes into it when Bruce Willis didn't change his fucking clothes. He's supposed to be a goddamned professional, and he behaves like fucking Homer Simpson. Something was stinky, and it had 'Property of Denmark' on the nametag.<p>This will only be successful if at the end, it's Andrew Dice Clay looking into the camera saying, 'Hitchcock? I FUCKED him, OWWWWHHHHGGHGLGKLLGKLG!'<p>I'll see this, though.
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and his little biscuit lovin' b!tches. You boys be trained REAL good...
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Van Halen's Jump plays in the backround.
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We may have a new funniest unintentional comedy ever...
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For fucking shit's sake say fucking bitch like a goddamned cunt loving man or cock squeezing woman. Grow the fuck up and say BITCH like you got a pair of nuts or some swinging fun bags! :)
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Why always NYC?
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but Cameron is so tight, if you stuck a lump of coal up his ass, in two weeks, you'd have a diamond.
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Feb. 4, 2008, 10:38 p.m. CST
Has to be NYC for it to MATTER. Cuz nothing happens anywhere els
by Stormwatcher
that matters. Like if Aliens came, it would be NYC, if there was a lizard attack, NYC, a really bad case of the Clap? Guaranteed its from that Statue of Liberty broad. I remember watching ID4 (which hasnt held up at all not that it was ever good) and Canada doesn't even have 1 ship over it, like the millions of people in Vancouver or Toronto get off scott free. Love it.
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I mean, besides Alexander Payne. I know I don't... If they don't live around big buildings, no one gives a damn! It's a fact!
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seems similar
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maybe . . . maybe not it will suck
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...look at Kevin Smith! He STARRED in one of his OWN movies, and is the character who says all the smart things. I still like him. and I think Shyamalan is majorly talented, and have no idea why he gets such crap for being cool.
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I know, its just the title, but still...The Village? Lady in the Water? The Happening?, which is just awkward to say. Shame, because the trailer makes it look good. I have a great title for his next one: The End
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While well made, SIGNS is flawed to its very core. Mel Gibson loses his faith, only to regain it after given definitive proof that God exists. I always understood that faith is believing in something you cannot prove, which means M. Night's film about "faith" really has nothing to say on the subject. The other unforgivable logic gap deals with water-allergic aliens who try to enslave a planet comprised primarily of water. I'm sorry, but if an alien species is clever enough to master interstellar travel they should be able to determine whether or not a particular planet is harmful to them. M. Night is technically gifted, obviously, but he is a lazy fucking writer. Sure, he knows how to write compelling characters and construct engaging interpersonal drama, but M. Night is unable to effectively suspend the disbelief his high-concept genre films induce. Therefore, he comes off as lazy, pretentious, and quite full of himself. I can do without.
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<Luke Skywalker> I care. </Luke Skywalker>
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that was supposed to be funny, (Luke Skywalker) brackets around it. Guess the boards invisible-ized my tags. :)
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haven't seen Lady In The Water. What's the big fuss about the movie? <br> I did enjoy Unbreakable, Sixth Sense and Signs (although very flawed, as others have pointed out). The Village was absolute crap. <br> This film looks pretty lame to me, but I'll give it a rent on Netflix. Would anyone care to fill me in on the steaming pile of shit that Lady in the Water apparantly is? what's so fucked about it?
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SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.
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The only people who don't care live in Hollywood. You see, in big budget movies, if it doesn't happen in NY or LA, it may as well not happen at all... I will just say that while I may be proven wrong (I hope), I predict this will be at least as bad as THE VILLAGE and LADY IN THE WATER and maybe (God forbid) even worse...
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I guess AICN talkbackers aren't smart enough to know the difference between a "one trick pony" and an auteur. JUst about every successful director working today is a "one trick pony" - Spielberg, Scorsese, Del Toro. Shyamalan might not be in their league with his last two films, but he's still a competent, talented filmmaker who could fart a better film than any of you fucking morons. But I'm a fucking idiot to expect intelligent discussion at AICN. This talkback is a cesspool of the most ignorant fucking nuffnuffs I've ever seen on the internet. It really is fucking disturbing to see the hate-filled posts, your reaction is like Obama campaigning for votes at a KKK conference.
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It appears M. Night fathered your cinematic abortion. Fuck off and die.
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Then hate it. But don't fucking hate something you haven't seen, you ignorant fucks.
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Say that to my face, pal. Say that to Shyamalan's face. You're a sniveling, pimply-faced nuffnuff who doesn't leave the house during daylight. Tough man behind your keyboard, aren't you? Next time I'm in the States, I'll arrange a meeting and we'll see how tough you are.
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Feb. 5, 2008, 12:30 a.m. CST
If case haven't noticed, Philly has lots of buildings
by thebearovingian
All of his movies are mainly filmed/set in the Philadelphia area (or surrounding areas), not New York or LA. This is not always explicitly told to the viewer.
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Oh, and did you read my post you arrogant fuck? You're the one spewing bile... I was simply pointing out obvious and avoidable flaws in M. Night's "film." If you'd like to discuss them like a human being with half a brain I'm all fucking ears. Until then take your own advice and shut it.
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My apologies, sire.
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What the fuck is a "nuffnuff?"
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I mean, "The Happening"? What the fuck kind of grammar killing shit is that?
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as he planned it. unrelated, kevin smith is a hack, cool hes a fanboy, so what?
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...with the exception of that narcissistic self-documentary (which was embarrassing to even watch).<p> Honestly, I wish people would stop hating on him. He's one of the very few directors in mainstream Hollywood that consistently tries to do something from a different angle than we've seen before. I can't find fault in any of his films with the exception of his insistence on casting himself in every movie. He's not an awful actor, it's just distracting.<p> I sincerely wish he'd finish his promised "Unbreakable" trilogy. That movie has had more ongoing potential than any of his other films.
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this has gotta be one of the worst titles I've ever come across. I mean I haven't read much of the rest of the talkback, but I can't be the only one who thinks this.<br> <br> And hey, is that one construction worker who looks up to see all the others falling towards him, is that the retarded brother from "Rescue Me"?
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you want to make twisty films, it has to be airtight. it has to hold up to scrutiny. it's a given for these kind of movies. thus, it always irked me when people say sixth sense has brilliant ending, when in fact that ending is moronic. it betrays the previous scenes in the film.
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unfortunately, hardboiled above was right. most brilliant directors are 'one trick pony' anyway. once an artist found his true voice, his films will always begin to look the same. scorsese, john woo, wongkarwai, even back to hitchcock and fellini and kurosawa.. if you look at each of these director's filmography, there's a running theme throughout all their films. you can even say they keep making the same movie over and over again. only the skin is different, the substance is almost always the same.
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Feb. 5, 2008, 1:43 a.m. CST
A bit like how pictured the start of CELL by Stephen King!
by Vamp-AICNchat
Now Eli Roth is planning to fuck CELL up. It will be shite.
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thanks for proving my point about people that like both those movies...
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but since when is del toro belong in the same sentence as spielberg and scorsese? just because this site loves hyping and pimping the guy, doesnt make him brilliant. personally i think m.night is most certainly more talented than del toro, in every fricking way. i've seen his spanish and hollywood films and found him to be very mediocre. bland even.
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Yo when I watched the trailer I was thinking the same thing, when i started watching the trailer. M Night should handle Cell, maybe he can come up with a better ending.
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Feb. 5, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST
Eli Roth can't fuck up Cell ffs... The ending in the book will d
by bongo123
the first half of cell is fucking splendid, a return to form, then it goes all fucking stupid and Mr King doesnt even have the fucking brains to give us a proper finish and explain what the fuck went on, i couldve wrote that piece of shite, so hopefully Eli Roth will turn a shit book into a good film
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my one trick pony comment wasn't meant as a slight, on the contrary. but you're right, the best ones can throw a curve ball once in a while and still surprise you. then again, john woo and wongkarwai never throw a curve ball, and i still love them for it.
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LITW will go down in history not unlike Zardoz - beautifully conceived and constructed, by a filmmaker completely dedicated to his unique artistic vision...but let anybody else watch it and they'd have to be high not to burst out laughing.
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to me, seem to be taking an archtype fantasy myth and placing it into a real life world with everyday people. Lady in the Water was the fairy tale, Village was the boogeyman, Signs the extra-terrestrial encounter of course, Unbreakable the super-hero tale, and 6th Sense the ghost story. And the one unifying link amongst them all is Shyamalan employs everyday-type characters with normal everyday problems as the protagonists.
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he takes geek genres and root it in reality? why didnt i think of that before? just kidding. :)
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that applies to all M.Night S. trailers. Hope the movie will be good this time.
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I agree with you. The Happening covers the global warming tale? makes sense, but sounds every bit as lame as Lady In The Water, which I just finished watching for the 1st time. Jesus Christ was that tough to finish. I've seen bad movies but good Lord.. I can't wait to get the RiffTrax to that shitter! <br> <br> From what I've read about this flick, The Happening, it's absolute shite. I'll probably pass on it myself.
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the end of the world, apocalypse or something like that...
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superhero, check. sci fi, check. horror, fairy tale, double checks. man, there's no more geek genre left to shymalize, is there? m.night has no choice now but to make dramatic change, lest he wants to start shymalizing romantic comedies.
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this time he's shyamalizing the plague story?
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way I understand it, plants get pissed off because people are polluting (even tho plants survive on co2, nevermind that), they start to excrete a nerve toxin that only effects humans, and is also mood dependent, in other words the more anger you have at plants, the more likely they'll blast you with this neuro toxin that causes you to commit suicide. (whew!). 4 people escape NYC (often in grass fields, woods, etc mind you), Walburg tries to win his wife back, etc, etc.. <br> this is what I've read from reviews of the script. make of it what you will. :)
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Shoots plant with raid.
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It's official. M Knight Shyamalot has completely lost his fucking mind...
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to me it all sounds like al gore leftist global warming bullshit. i mean if the guy can turn it into an interesting story w/compelling characters i might look past the blatent propaganda, but my money is on steaming pile of dog shit.
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The plant eats people.
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everyone is dying, end of world is imminent. it's a subgenre of sci fi. unless the ending reveals the cause to be supernatural. <p> but wait... there's still noir and cowboy... those are kinda geek genres nowadays, arent they? can you imagine the twist ending in a m.night cowboy movie? <p> the horses turn out to be the dominant species on the planet, and are experimenting on human. they only pretend to be stupid so the human can ignore them.
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you want to make a propaganda film dude, try this cause it's science fact: <br> The Great Dying (even sounds scary!) <br> Methane producing bacteria at the bottom of the oceans in the volcanic vents kick it up to overdrive. this raises methane levels in the oceans killing all ocean life. this creates toxic oceans that spew methane gas, next thing plant life and animal life die. 99.9% of all life on Earth died this way. Now I'm greatly simplifying things here, as there was a large meteor/or comet involved, a solar sun spot increase (like whats actually happening now), and large amounts of volcanic activity from the impact.. <br> a super storm of sorts. but the point is you could Hollywood the hell out of it. Make the methane levels rise in the oceans rapidly and start killing off ocean life. speed it up day after tomorrow style or something. have this methane gas infecting our air killing off the other life. <br> how would life survive? could we? ooooo see? could be good! better than mood detecting plants that spew a suicidal causing human only infecting neuro toxin... that is fucking lame.
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with poison ivy as the big bad.
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If anyone is interested here is an article on the actual event. <br> <br> http://tinyurl.com/ yp8sdw <br> <br> *remove the space of course =)
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After going to wiki to look up the basic plot for this trash, i nearly laughed at the synopsis. neurotoxin from trees? makes humans go suicidal? What the fuck are you pulling on me! I know its suppose to be fantasy but some things are just too ridiculous. I guess you guys knew that if you put the dumb synopsis of the film, you'd get triple the amount of hate for M Night. Smart move.
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After "The Signal" and "The Happening", these types of movies will be a tired old hat.
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This is probably the biggest load of bollocks you have ever written: <P>"Sometimes he just operates on a different level than his audience and it backfires, a la Lady." <P>What a load of utter shit. I could film nothing but water running down a gutter for 2 hours and call it art. When it would be, deservedly, derided, I could then quote Mirajeff of AICN and say "Nooooo, you don't understand, you stupid people, I'm just operating on a different level to you."
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asteroids, weathers, zombie virus, core of the earth, sunshine, alien invasions, plants... all those attempts and the only one who actually manage to succesfully destroy the earth is those vogons idiots. what does that say?
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Sixth Sense: Loved it first time I saw it, bud sadly it does not hold up on repeat viewings, and I now seriously dislike it. <P>Unbreakable: This is where all the problems come from, as it is a fucking good film- it set the bar much higher than the mediocre sixth sense. <p>Signs: Man, I hated this on sight, and age has only made me hate it more. It tells us nothing about faith, has the absolute abomination of "Swing Away", cheesy kids, a plot hole the size of the hole in the ozone layer and the cocksucker wrote himself into it. Not a good film at all. <P>The Villaige: just awful. Unforgivably awful, <P>Lady in The Water- No idea, refused to watch it. <P>The problem all you defenders seem to have, is that you have to find reasons to like his stuff, and they're usually fairly tenuous, (Mirajeff's "different level"), whereas the flaws in his writing are fucking huge and detractors can savage his later films effortlesly. When you need to reach to defend something, then chances are it isn't actually that good. <P>What he needs to do is direct something he didn't write. There is no doubt that he can direct, but he gets worse as a writer with each outing. <P>I think him directing a tarantino script would be a great idea
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No sound either which is half the fun but how can you go wrong really although it looks like folks just offing themselves so where's the threat unless one lands on you?<P>That's a good thing too though isn't it? world cleanses itself of the human stain. Guessing Marky Marks sinuses must be superior to normal folks.
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star trek? <P> they're happy, normal.. then boom! they turn into drunk soccer fans!
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where people go nuts!
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Love to see how Shyamalamadingdong gets a twist out of this movie...he'll get $20.00 out of me for this one (that's how much the movies cost in London, people) but only because I think Unbreakable is genius, pure unadulterated genius. And if I don't he'll keep calling me. He'll keep calling me until I come over. He'll make me feel guilty. This is - Alright I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, I'll go, alright I'll go. Shit!
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'Nuff said.
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What's a nuffnuff?
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I'm shocked.<br> <br> Well, this should be his last.<br>
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some terrible and immature films, however, I have seen them all, and I would even watch his latest crap fest if the premise wasn't so laughably idiotic. I imagine activists and such joining the bandwagon on this film, and deciding the metaphorical implications in this film are prfound, wow, can you believe it, nature fighting back... incredible.
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In it there was a storyline that dealt with a radio signal that made people randomly commit suicide or acts of violence then suicide. It's either that, some ti into to a wifi signal, or Jacobs Ladder chemical thing. Probably government experiment gone wrong. He might even tie it into government surveillance or something. It's just a guess. Other than that it's a good teaser and I'm still interested. SHammmmmalayyyyn!
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and stop behaving like angry white people who listen to to much Ramstein and play COD4. Then Wahlberg faces his demons by remembering he accidentally killed his wife while slam dancing to Ramstein.
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The Devil's Backbone is better than any film Night has made, period.
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A What's Happening movie finally. This looks good but I've been suckered by Night before. Just don't hurt me again M. I beg you.
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I think Scott Smith's "The Ruins" will drink Night's milkshake. If it's as good as the book, at least.
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...to refresh the examples behind my criticism. I'd managed to block most of the movie out outside of the most general terms. In short, my verdict is, fuck all of you. You made me rewatch that piece of shit. Goddammit.
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I love M Night. In fact, I think he is one of the greatest directors in history... and.. and... I... I... <p> *lunges forward and stares into the TV camera* <p> Childe Roland! Where are you? Wherever you are, we need you! Come back! Come back and smite the Night lovers! <p> *General Zod steps forward from the shadows and smacks me*
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Please... just stop.
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He probably found the dark tower and went crazy on a balcony.
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I bet the twist in this film is that everyones killing themself because they just watched "The Village"
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Or "Lady in the Water" for that matter. I wish they'd shove Shyamalan in the water... with a ball and chain attatched to his legs.
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That's what this should be called. That Earth is a living organism and needs to eradicate the human race in order to keep it's balance. We have fucked over our planet an it's inhabitants long enough. Mother is getting even now. And what a better way to do it then by showing people offing themselves in crazy ways. Man there is a golden opportunity to show some cool shit here people, although I think it's a great idea I think M Night will pussy out and keep the suicides to a minimal. Instead of showing gramps pulling out his oxygen tube, add some balls to it. To keep in the spooky atmosphere but add some shock to it he should show a father trying to drive his family off a cliff or bridge. If a baby is infected just how does an infant commit suicide? An airline pilot bringing down a plane. A zoo keeper walks into a lion cage. A tree cutter climbs into a wood chipper. A guy puts his head into a press. On and on....
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Poop releases a toxin that makes us suicidal.
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Yea.
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Feb. 5, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST
How was cloverfield kept such a big secret..but this film..
by knowthyself
..has its plot already all over the internet? wtf?
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the plot for Cloverfield was spoiled the moment the first trailer showed during Transformers. Big thing attacks NYC. The only secret was what did the thing look like?
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The trees cause us to slap some sense into Al Gore.
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to a certain extent I liked everything else except LITW which I could hardly finish because that movie to sooo fucking pretentious it's not even funny. I'm actually quite fond of VILLAGE, the direction was rather good it's just not for everyone. As far as this trailer goes I'm willing to give him one more chance because I think he can direct a film, but he is certainly on thin ice after the travesty that is LITW. I am however weary of the theme here, I too was getting a heavy CELL (S.KING) feeling, a book that I wasn't very impressed with, but as I said, I do believe he direct a film well so if he gets the mood and the set up right he might be able pull off something worth while as long as it's not self indulgent like Lady in the very shitty movie. (I think it's safe to say that no one liked that movie, except for tremendously dumb people)
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You clearly don't know a lot about being high.
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If so...FUCK!!! <p> I see IMDB has him as producer, but if he directs...DOUBLE FUCK!!!<p> I can't see King picking Roth, of all people, to direct the adaptation (probably a shit-headed studio suit). Aint it crappy news!
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That everyone happens to dislike a movie for whatever reasons. You can't please anyone, that's jsut the way it happens... <br><br> And it'll HAPPEN TO YOU!!!!!
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lame.
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=4A53t5rM3N8&feature=related
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=6kGQ2qT6Y5A
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=deQH0nv-r4o&feature=related
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www.chimplogic.com
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The worst movie ever. I hope for the latter.
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It just suffered from the m night backlash due to the crapfest that was the village. After The Village it was cool to hate M Night.
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jesus, after the village I think it was almost cool to SLAP M Night. that crapfest was an insult to the intellect. see my roger ebert quote above, says it perfectly.
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People at imdb are secretive little assholes. People ask for the script and they say what for. Why do you think, moron?! Upload the script onto a file-sharing site already.
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Full of angry plants! Movie looks like Cell with a little of Skipp & Spector's The Bridge mixed in, and looks way more fun than any of the crap this idiot's been churning out since Signs. I'm in.
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Why did they feel the need to pull the trailer? Cunts, thats why.
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