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STAR WARS ANIMATED Film... this September... Theatrically?
Hey folks, Harry here... According to the highly reliable folks at Action-Figure.Com it seems that in the UK, at least, the first 3 episodes of Lucasfilm's animated CLONE WARS - will get theatrical distribution of the 90 minute film. Will the U.S. get the same treatment? God, I hope so. That'd rule! I could imagine Lucas doing this for Digital Theaters only - plus earning some extra coin. Thanks goes to Tolomey for this awesome Super Bowl day rumor!
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Hey Harry,
Longtime fan. Regarding the animated Star Wars feature..... my buddy works for a company that has the license to this property. Word is the feature is actually gonna be 4 episodes and will be released sometime in spring (around the time of Indy). If you use this, call me Darth Diggler.
DD
Longtime fan. Regarding the animated Star Wars feature..... my buddy works for a company that has the license to this property. Word is the feature is actually gonna be 4 episodes and will be released sometime in spring (around the time of Indy). If you use this, call me Darth Diggler.
DD
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...and also posting on your website? Then again, thats exactly what im doing. never mind.
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I hope they are good. I hope they release them in australia too
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I hope so!
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what's the latest about the live- action series?
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Can't wait for the Clone Wars series.
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The thought of a new SW mini-movie free on TV each week brings me joy. Haters: "move along...move along.."
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Why are they keeping footage so quiet?
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and my computer is in the foreground and I don't need to look at my hands when I type.
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knowing that it's all puppeteered by palpatine anyway, whichever side wins doesn't matter in the end. no urgency to it.
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The Clone Wars weren't pointless. They created the Empire, and wiped out the Jedi, and made Palpatine a hero of sorts to the Republic.
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Doesn't seem like all these in between stories have any of the anticipatory ferver that Episode One had before it came out.
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for halftime. You would think that the superbowl would need something with...I dunno, a pulse?
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bradys getting swallowed up...
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He looks like Saruman.
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Haha and it's so funny.
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from the eighties and today.
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But they're actually doing pretty good. I can't stand his voice, but the instrumentals are good. Seems like there is alot of energy on the field this year compared to the lethargic Rolling Stones crowd, or the manequin fans of the Janet Jackson debacle.... at least they got to see a tittay.
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Especially compared to this past summers blockbusters. Im looking at you Spider Man 3!
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Give the guy some respect. He could make a triple album out of his greatest hits
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it's difficult to play from beyond the grave.
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Yeah Harry! HOW GREAT!
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bloody ibooks
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He beats extra coin to a bloody pulp!
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will ferrell is more dead than tom petty
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Phantom Menace is a 'good movie'? Oh that's according to the measuring stick of shit which sorta starts with Phantom Menace and at the other end is Spidey 3 but never the less both suck for very different reasons in the same continuum of suckyness. Yeah, a Star Wars animated whatever is just about the level of Lucas' opus magnum of trite film making. The cherry on the cake of crap in fact. Hope you enjoy it. Me? I went and grew up to demand movies that don't insult my intelligence. You stick with the 8 year old pre pubescent crowd over there. You can have it. In fact, you deserve it.
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but im up for some more Prince.
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The Clone Wars created a means to destroy the Jedi and scared the people into giving Palpatine emergency powers (sound familiar?).
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All the SW prequels are better than the Pirates trilogy,
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no one ever hates on it. Way to be original!
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Not much of a fan of Tom's music, but the man is "Lucky" on King of the Hill. Give Lucky the respect he deserves.
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Damn, that show must be in it's 20th season.
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and it said their advertisements are making my asshole crusty.
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but I read your post to say, "We already know the outcome of the Clone Wars, so the action of the animated series is essentially moot. We know how it all will end, and that detracts from the drama." Right? I see your point, but disagree. We all knew how Titanic would end, but that didn't blow the movie.
Again, though; not too excited about this project. Wish Lucasfilm would focus on the live-action series and get that out asap. This animated stuff holds about as much interest for me as the Extended Universe books (i.e. little to none) -
i laughed well and hard.
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But I'd still do her
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Sorry. I own both DVD's, but I can't get behind (even a limited) big screen release. They're doing it BACKWARDS!!! You go to the movies, then buy it on DVD. Sorry. Not ponying up $$$ to see something made for a TV screen (and I own already) on the big screen.
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Feb 03, 2008 7:41:19 PM CST
For some strange reason I'm actually looking forward to this.
by the outlander
I thought Star Wars Episode 1 to 3 sucked, pretty badly. But maybe because Lucas isn't writing and directing this show I think it has a chance of actually being quite watchable and the early trailer they did got me a little excited.
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having to wait all those years for the starwars dvds broke my addiction. and now I find watching blurays I never look at s dvd anymore. I never watch starwars anymore funny I used to watch them all the time on vhs. Big note to lucas out of sight out of mind if people arn't watching starwars they are watching something else. And moving on
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I heard about this last year. I hope Lucas doesn't just have this in theaters overseas. I know that the two Ewok movies were done this way overseas.
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"that was the most awesome wall e trailer ever! it is going to be my favorite pixar movie of all time"
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Awesome for Blu-Ray and gaming, but no TV signal is in 1080p. So don't brag that much Mr Headgeek, whoa! Wall-E ad!
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Bring back Electra
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How refreshing. Awesome Wall E ad!
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"The Search For More Cash" nobody but the fans to blame.
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JUST STOP NOW. OH GOD STOP IT.
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you're watching on something bigger than a 55" monitor. I doubt many, if anyone here has a rig that huge but then again the difference between 1080i and 1080p is marginal and in my opinion, unnoticeable. I have a 46" Samsung 1080p LCD and it looks good in either 720 or 1080i signals. I will say that Star Wars in HD looks pretty damn awesome though. Thank God for the internet.
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The Patriots defense sucks.
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as i recall, the last three star wars movies might as well have been animated. cept the acting is less wooden in most cartoons.
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I'm glad Lucas is still in control.
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If you're going to insist on making more Star Wars, go with the early novels. You know, the ones that were good before they started publishing one a week. Think of how freaking awesome an "Heir to the Empire" trilogy would be. Or if you want a series, go with the Rogue\Wraith Squadron X-Wing series. Even a one-shot "Tales from Jabba's Palace" would rock animated.
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both star trek and star wars suck right now. the latest star wars movie was only "good" in comparison to the previous two. star wars nose dived after empire. star trek had some groove in TNG, but apart from the original, that was it.
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People would get excited by SW again.
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such an essential part of pop culture, but so imperfect. i like the original trilogy but don't own it on dvd due to the retardedness of different versions (let me know when han shoots first again). the prequel trilogy is mediocre, with 10 bad parts for every good part, and i have no interest in watching them again, let again owning them. star wars animated movie? pass, unless it gets good word of mouth.
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it's done. Then general public somewhat liked it and has moved on. All that's left is the hardcore fans, and most fans either dislike or HATE the prequel stuff. The only prequel era stuff i want to see is "The Eviceration of Jar Jar Binks". "Oh, meesa SPLEEN!!"
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is that I'm only 22. I first watched the original Star Wars films on my VCR, and know the original versions. Yet, most everyone else my age who likes Star Wars only knows it by the "re-mastered" shit, and have no interest in the originals. I don't even like Star Wars that much, but, goddamn, there's a hell of a difference (as long as you can recognize it).
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Those books fucking sucked. Furry worms that absorb the Force? Clones with extra vowels in their names? That blue guy was kind of cool I guess but overall they make the prequels look like The Empire Strikes Back.
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Sweet.
I wonder if all these haters have actually seen the new trailer for this new show - http://youtube.com/watch?v=N4eIcDLzKMA
If nothing else the sapce battles in this are going to fucking own!!
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Look, I thoroughly enjoyed TPM and ROTS (just as I enjoyed ANH and TESB), so please, from one PT fan to another, stop using the POTC trilogy as a point for comparison. They were the most bloated, convoluted pieces of shit I've seen in a theater. You're not helping The Cause any. It's like defending the Alien 3 Assembly Cut by saying "well, it was better than Alien: Resurrection!"
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than Dead Man's Chest.
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The drama is detracted from the get-go, even without knowing the OT because palpy is behind the evil robot armies but is also in the senate so he can get emergency powers to stop them right? So there's really no side to root for, i guess that's unique too but i like it when the mits are off and real shit happens in the OT. in fact i'm glad they "wiped out the Jedi" grouchy stern pretentsious dumbfucks deserved what they got. Palpy barely had to lift a finger to get Anakin evil, the Council pretty much screwed his head more than palpy could by taking him from his slave mom (really they couldnt free her too?), telling him stfu when she ends up on the wrong end of a tusken gangbang, telling him do this dont do that, hide your emotions, etc. what were they expecting? They got too fat and blind from thier power and corrupted their screwed up ideology. Fuck those elegant douches, good riddance. the scum was washed away. In fact the PT was a happy ending! Luke was truly the ONE, he embraced the power of his emotions, from his uncle/aunt/sis/dad, and had true wisdom.
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I just can't get through Dead Man's Chest for some reason. I have tried 3 times to watch it all the way through on DVD but I get distracted every time. I guess I just don't care. Obviously haven't seen the third film. Anyone else struggle to complete the POTC trilogy?
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Where was the HD DVD at?
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I don't get the obsession with inserting all these extra secret apprentices with every EU story. My guess is that when I'm old I'll be watching a relaunch of Star Wars, and I don't have a problem with that, but I think everything between Episode 1 and 6 has been told that needs to be told.
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Anyone else struggle to complete the POTC trilogy?
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I hated the 2nd Pirates movie and didn't totally hate the third, but I can't say I'd give either a ringing endorsement. The first Pirates was a fun little fluke, but it didn't need to be turned into a self congratulating trilogy. Not quite as hideous of a drop as the Matrix trilogy, but still no good. I also have a hard time remembering the names of the films in both those trilogies, but maybe that has to do with being conditioned to call the 2nd Matrix film The Matrix:Retarded for so long. I can remember actually being angry coming out of the Matrix part 2. Actually, I think I still might be angry.
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Zahn was the best Star Wars Novelist aside from Alan Dean Foster, the fact that he negates Force powers in his first book with a cheap MacGuffin notwithstanding. Maybe somebody should write a story in the far future SW where somebody creates a "dark force bomb" that just annihilates the whole damn Galaxy Far, Far Away. Then there would be closure, like Narnia and the Arthurian cycle and LOTR and all the stuff Lucas claims to be inspired by. And then the bitching would finally, definitively, end.
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It seemed like around the time ROTS came out it was suggested they filmed alternate versions of the whole Palpatine gets disfigured nonsense. In at least one case he didn't disfigure himself, it is just revealed that his kindly old man face was part of his illusion. Anyone know if this is true, and did those alternate versions ever get seen outside of camp Lucas?
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HAHAHAHA
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And I wonder why my legs don't fucking work.
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...I can hardly contain my excitement.
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It'll be tough to beat the Tartakovsky toons though... 23-25 in particular. Kidnapping of Palpatine... train station fight... just awesome.
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There's not a critic or sane man on Earth who wouldn't concede that. But c'mon Skywalkerfamily, when defending the PT, you've got to assure folks you hold respectable standards. (Just tell them the PT fits somewhere between the LOTR triumphs and the self-indulgent Matrix turdfests.)
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Feb 03, 2008 11:58:48 PM CST
Wish I could tap into the kid inside and muster enthusiasm for t
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...err..but I can't, not unless it's another live action series without Lucas in the directors chair or writing the screenplay for that matter. Kasdan's was, is and always be the best Star Wars episode written.
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I mean it was already pretty widely known that there would be a theatrical launch for the new Clone Wars tv series, although originally it was thought this would happen around August, and that this would consist of the first few episodes edited together, that's all been the plan for months. Still if it's been bumped up to Spring that's new I guess. It's also known that, at last report many months ago, 40 episodes of the series are already complete, so I imagine now that number is up to 50 or 60 eps, as again this was months ago. What still isn't known however is what channel will be showing the series, or if, in fact, it will end up being distributed in another manner altogether.
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Until Kasdan admits he wrote Episode VI: Return of the Muppets after a drunken bender, it's safe to say Brackett and Kershner deserve a good share of the praise.
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Why not animate some of the great books like Thrawn trilogy, Shadows of the Empire, Han Solo Trilogy, or the 'Tales from' books. Or some of the comic books, Dark empire, Crimson empire, or classic SW. So many cool characters would be cool to see onscreen.
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Feb 04, 2008 12:13:37 AM CST
if they think what they got is worthy of a theatrical release
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than i'm down.
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of shadows of the empire and splinter of minds eye!! and dark empire I AND II.
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...a SW talkback! Within the first few posts, LOTR, The Matrix, Star Trek, Spider-Man and now POTC are trotted out and the battle commences. Geek rage at its purest! And funniest!
I can feel your anger... The hate is swelling in you now...Go on, fanboys, release your anger! Strike each other down with all of your hatred and your journey towards the Dark Side will be complete! -
...I always thought that an animated version of Shadow Of The Empire would be pretty cool, and you know they could get the original voice cast back, especially as they don't need Ford for the story. It'd be a worthy experiment at the very least.
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I really wish they'd move there with the animation, the fact that they havn't lead me to believe Ol' George is still considering a third live action trilogy. After the prequels, I think I'd be much happier with an animated Heir to the Empire or Black Fleet crisis. Besides, Hammil, Ford and Fisher have not exactly aged well. Although a cranky, 60-70 yo Han Solo would be pretty entertaining.
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but I can't see them doing it considering the ties to the N64 video game.
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Pirates 1 and Matrix 1 were greatness. How quickly the mighty fell.
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I mean really, is this guy going SENILE or something??
Let me lay it down now in case you wonder what you were thinking later - Indy 4 IS GOING TO SUCK!
Lucas hasn't got a damn thing right since about halfway through ROTJ and it's all been downhill ever since...
He might come up with the occasional interesting idea - like, say, I dunno... actually strike that - he doesn't have any good ideas left and he doesn't execute those (bad) ideas well either!
HOWARD the fucking DUCK anyone!?
When he said, way back in the eighties, that he wanted to do prequels the only thing anyone ever wanted to see was the fucking clone wars! That and the lava pit... So what's the ONLY thing he DOESN'T do in a SINGLE FUCKING PREQUEL?? The Clone Wars!!
CASE FUCKING CLOSED!
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Even ROTJ still stands head and shoulders above the new SW installments, better actors, pacing and structure, and characters you cared for and actually gave a shit about. Ok some of the effects are shwoing their age, the Rancor glove puppet and dodgy compositing stick out like a dog's nads but it still works. Episodes 1-3 are an indictment of the Lucas malaise, a trade off - contemporary visual excess over substance, like a beautifully wrapped present with a turd inside. "Sand...it get's everywhere" God, some of the most leaden acting ever commited to digiloid!
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Moved faster and had a more intricate plot.
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Or rather, nobody should. Star Wars is just Lucas's ATM.
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Here's the facts: the notices for ROTS were generally positive, while ROTJ was damn-near eviscerated by critics. (I've read the '83 write-ups, and they're even worse than the '97 ones you'd find on metacritic.) What's to account for this? Well, ROTS is the superior film, what with the better performances, innovative direction, gorgeous score, lush cinematography, and a script that actually took itself seriously. I'm glad you Holy Trilogy fans love ROTJ, but I think it's a failure. (Think X-Men 3.) And no, I don't give a shit about the Pod People masquerading as Luke, Han, Leia, and Vader. Don't give a shit about Jabba the Muppet, or Han and Leia's Everybody Loves Raymond-styled romance (he says something stupid, she rolls her eyes), Vader's fuzzy-wuzzy redemption, or Darth Sidious, the cackling Disney-villain reject. For what it's worth, I'd gladly trade in all three prequels for a proper follow-up to TESB.
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movies if you go by critics. ESB is second. I also remember when AOTC came out it got very positive reviews, then like a year later the critics that loved it slammed it when the DVD came out.
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By what standards does ROTJ have acceptable pacing? The Jabba the Muppet opener, featuring the most convoluted rescue mission in the history of film, takes up 30 goddamn minutes, and the Ewok shit eats up another 15 (just what I wanted to see...our heroes ensnared in a net). Compare this to the ROTS opener, clocking in at just over 20 minutes.
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The opening tracking shot. The Invisible Hand's "happy landing." The Yoda/Anakin conference. Padme's ruminations. The Order 66 montage. The Duel of the Fates in the Senate. Vader's birth/Padme's demise. Absolutely breathtaking--I can't recall anything comparable from ROTJ. (But if anyone wants to argue that Marquand was a more capable visual storyteller than Lucas, be my guest.)
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except for a sizable portion of EIII. The dialogue was wooden.
And without Kirshner / Brackett / Kurtz to have a strong opinion to help Lucas second guess say... JAR JAR!!!!?????!!!!, the prequel story and excitement was not as great as the original trilogy.
Now we get Clone Wars animated series when we already know the fates of all central characters. C’mon! If he was going to go 3D, it should have been before EIII, not after, genius!
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my rank. ROTJ is classial masterpiece compared to the prequels. that said TPM is ironically the best of the prequels, jar(x2)abortion aside. ROTS was storyboarded and edited by a spidermonkey on caffeine/cocain. AOTC are the visions of someone drinking nyquil mixed with alcohol.
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Don't fuck this dead franchise over and over again. It's enough already...
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Damn You George Lucas.
Damn your teddy bears and racist stereotypes too.
MEESA YOUR HUMBLE SERVANT! NOW WATCH WHILE I PRATFALL LIKE FETCH'N'PIKKIT! HAHA I'M A BLACK STEREOTYPE FROM THE FOURTIES!
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Well good for you Harry,it just goes to show how you can get all kinds of swags when you plug studio projects (be they shitty or no.)on your site. XD
More cool news and less "flossing"
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that "Order 66 montage" was a joke, right - was it intentionally funny? characters nobody cared about all got killed in about three and a half minutes? give me a break!
don't get me wrong - ain't no friggin Holy Trilogy to worship here - there was plenty that was absolutely rubbish about ROTJ!
I'm right with you deathbird - I'd trade all three prequels for a proper follow up to Empire too!
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Of course, Lucas says 'Over my dead body'. Well precisely, George, precisely. So what do you people think? Who's the best choice for screenwriter and director. Are Kasdan and Kirshner still around? The latter already looked liked he'd eaten a coffin sandwich when he made TESB, so maybe the guy's age is redundant. By the way, anyone who wants to say 'Let Star Wars die already' - it's set across a frickin' GALAXY already. I don't hear you demanding that people stop making films set on this particular rock in our Milky Way...
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as long as Lucas does not have any creative hand in it.
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Lucas was probably the greatest director out of all his generation and was completely sidetracked by the franchise. THX1138..? American Grafitti.? These films stand up even better than A New Hope and it's a shame he did not progress to make other movies. He should have died after Raiders then you'd all remember him with great affection.
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Gotta feel sorry for Lucas for allowing the first to be made. It was his second big movie, and he's been regretting it ever since. Maybe that's why he takes control of his universe seriously.
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that much about Star Wars anymore. I'll be the first to tell you I was in line weeks in advance just for tix to Phantom Menace. The prequel movies were good, but not great or nearly as memorable as the first three. Even when the prequels were being released, I surmised that emotional interest in the stories could only be so high, since we KNEW how it would all end. What happens next, or before, I just don't care. I mean, Lucas showed us Boba Fett as a KID. Who WANTED to see THAT? Only the coolest Star Wars character ever, stripped of all enigma.
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and after that.......I dont know.
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...you just know that you're going to see Star wars movies out the arse. And whoever is put in control of his esate will claim "that's what he would have wanted" despite the fact that if he wanted that it would have happened by now. But even so, just as long as they hire real talent in the writing and directing arenas it'll more than likely result in some great entertainment. And you just know that the a-listers are gonna be lining up to play in that particular sandbox when the time comes. Post Lucas we'll also finally see some definitive releases of the movies, packed full of a huge amount of extras that Lucas always seems to hold back 'for a rainy day'. I mean the sheer amount of scenes and footage shot for these films, and particularly the prequels, that has nevr been seen by the public is pretty staggering. The first cut of Revenge of the Sith alone was four hours long, before it got cut down to a more managable size. One day fans will get what they want, and not only will we see much in the way of the mountains of material that Lucasfilm has archived for these films, but you can bet that cleaned up versions of the original trilogy minus the alterations will also be made available. It's all there, just waiting to be made money on, and once Lucas isn't there to say no anymore you can bet the suit(s) in charge will see the monetary value in doing all this stuff.Now don't get me wrong, I don't wish death on Lucas or anything, the man, as flawed as he can be, gave me three films I love in the original Star Wars trilogy, and three other films that, while nowhere near great, still have their moments, with the prequel trilogy. And on top of that he contributed to another trilogy of films, with the Indy series, that I also love. As such, for all the mis-steps that he's taken artistically in my eyes, I don't wish him ill, I just hope that when he does go he goes before me so that I get a chance to see all that he's denied us over the years.
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oh god. I hope not. And Istand by this- star wars has 2 classics, 1 passable 1 mediocre to poor and 2 cinematic abortions. AOTC is still the only film I have got my money back for.
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There is footage of Luke Skywalker in a poncho on his uncle's moisture farm from A new Hope. I hope the Skywalker poncho scenes make it to the public when Lucas dies, finally shedding light on why Luke behaves the way he does. Because he's the type of guy who, being without any Mexican heritage, would wear a poncho.
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I wonder if there's any footage from Empire when Luke is recuperating from his Hoth ordeal, and Leia shows Han up by kissing Luke. What we don't see is that later Leia returns to the hospital room when Han is not around and prostrates herself for Luke to take her, which he does. Kinda creepy when later we learn they're siblings.
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You know I would absolutely love to see more Star Wars movies... with little or no involvement by George Lucas. Course that'll never happen, but could you imagine? Tales of the old republic. One shot movies with no direct link to the trilogy or prequals. Handled by interesting Directors and actors. Scripts that don't sound like the were forced at gun point by out of a script writing AI program on someone's Mac. Jedis, Sith, space pirates, smugglers, aliens(both practical and digital). Filmed and release any damn way they saw fit, none of this, "hey look we can make a movie entirely with green screen!" Jesus George build some large sets sometime for God's sake. It was such a wonderful universe that was set up and such a sad thing that its basicly wasted at this point. Come on George the animated stuff was a step in the right direction, loosen the death grip on the thing. Let some fresh creative juices flow into it and Star Wars could be a living breathing entity for generations. Just make the stipulation nothing can be done that directly retcons the original saga. You did that enough.
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But nothing much really. They should've done what the Matrix did and what Batman and Terminator are currently doing. Some cool serious shorts that explore the universe... Anyway, wasn't there talk of a CG animated series or film? What happened to that?
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Didn't he say he didn't want to do another three Star Wars flicks because he doesn't want the rest of his life to be about this franchise? He has other projects he wants to work on? Now he's doing Star Wars live action shows, animated shows, theatrical animated movies--everything BUT the sequels? JUST PRODUCE THE SEQUELS (and let someone else write/direct them.) Or don't do anything. Who here cares what happens between episodes 3 & 4 when we already know the outcome? It's silly.
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He did say he wanted to do something other than Star Wars. We could theoretically be missing out on the next Star Wars or Indiana Jones because Lucas is too busy doing more Star Wars and Indiana Jones. What other ideas has he had over the last 30 years that could become something we love? I would much rather see a noble failure than a moderately successful continuation of Indy or Star Wars.
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blame ourselves for asking too much of a good thing. let it die, george. stop while there's some dignity left in starwars.
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I don't know why people think this is a good idea. With the exception of a handful of novels, a half-dozen video games, and Genndy's "Clone Wars" (we'll see about the CGI series) the EU/Non-Lucas SW tales have been a trail of tears. Bash the prequels all you want, but at least they have a cohesiveness too them. Most EU plays like Star Trek/Techie Sci-Fi which is totally wrong.
Like them or not the prequels brought in a whole new generation to the Star Wars mythos. (I work at the Apple store and can tell you every kid who sits down at the kiddie computer table plays "Lego Star Wars"). No way is the saga dead. -
Please do 7,8&9 but let someone else write and direct them. I want to see more great plot twist like ESB, more adventure like ANH. I know it can be done cause they're doing great work with the new Battlestar Galactica.
I can understand not wanting to do more Star Wars that would be fine too but if thats the case why would he be doing these Clone Wars cartoons?? As far as I'm concerned the Clone Wars stuff lost it's mystic with the PT. We know what happened now... bla bla bla, it's over. And I know, I've seen lots of interviews with Lucas,he did them his way, I respect that and even kind of admire it. But now it's time to get back on track. Their are some great directors and writers out there that could knock it out of the park if given the chance.
Just let it happen! wasn't that the original plan to begin with? That's what I remember as a kid all those years back. I don't remember anything about a Clone Wars cartoon TV series. I just feel a little ripped off getting more star wars but not in the way we were told a long long time ago. -
It just seems silly to me. If GL doesn't want to do Star Wars then please don't do any more!!! I would love to see a brand new Lucas projest. But if you're going to do Star Wars let's see what we were originaly told.
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Why concentrate on a war that was merely a ruse to exterminate the Jedi and creat the Empire? Both sides of this conflict were puppets, nothing more. Plus, everyone knows the outcome. I think it would be kind of pointless. Kind of like this war in Iraq.
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Who did the Clones attack in that movie anyway? I know they rescued the Jedi at the end of the movie but would that be an attack? And Yoda had no problem using them? He knew nothing of the creation of a clone army, then all of a sudden he's comanding the clone troops with no problem? None of the Jedi even questioned why the clone army was created? No one even thought to look into this Jedi that was killed 10 years prior about placing an order for a huge clone army?? I don't know, maybe they'll dive into some of these little lack of judgment calls in the Clone Wars cartoon. Or maybe not.
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All it is is so Lucas can rake in the bucks off of 100 differently colored dumb ass troopers. By the way, he stole the color schemes from the Kurosawa flick Kagemusha.
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Although I'm not a big fan of CG animation, I am looking forward to The Clone Wars. A theatrical release would be awesome. I am much less excited about the live-action show. Star Wars movies take three years to make. How can 10-20 hours every year on a lower budget have the same impact? I fear SW will go the way of Star Trek overkill. Rick McCallum has even been talking about a plan to have several series running at the same time. Way to dilute the franchise and have it play purely to a geek audience! I do hope the live-action series is good, but I have some trepidation. I would much rather see more movies. The Legacy comic book series would be an excellent basis for a third trilogy. It is set decades after ROTJ. Get Mark Hamill as spirit Luke together with an all-new cast. It would be awesome!
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I'm sure it's about money. It sure doesn't make any sense artistcally. Really?? the smartest oldest wisest Jedi master went against his better judgement and took the whole clone army out for a test battle? Was Yoda really that stupid?
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Then make Episode 7,8&9 animated. I dont' care. If it's written well it doesn't matter. The point is move on.. please move on
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if there were ever more star wars movies, the first one should open with a colossal battle where the lame Yuuzhan unpronouncable aliens from another galaxy are defeated, and then the Solo family and the Skywalker family have to face a massive new threat from a resurrected mandalorian armada commanded by Boba Fett himself. Now that would rock balls and would explain why Fett rocks so much. He's been planning to take over the galaxy for 35 years.
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He never really did much did he? I think he just looked cool and that was it. Anyway I'd take any story line as long as it was someone besides GL writting and directing it. No offense it just needs new blood.
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They will just do it to death and milk every penny and no one will give a fuck by the end.
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I enjoyed all of the movies, but I felt that AOTC was the weakest. Those that venerate the OT AND simultaneously hate the PT should perhaps list their criticisms of the PT. Odds are that those criticisms carry over to the OT. i am tired of this crap about wooden acting, unbelievable romance, and silly story tarnishing the PT. I say that because Hamill was not exactly Lawrence Olivier, and Han and Leia was not exactly THE Love Story, and finding a flaw in the Death Star after a few minutes of analysis was not exactly plausible. Keep on railing on Lucas though.....
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I like that idea of this bumbling cretin who is just so lucky that his accidentally created SW....
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It this scenario, Lucas gains ALL the credit for Martha's work and really contributed NOTHING apart from Ewoks in SW.
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This is a favorite of mine: Kirshner goes renegade and produces the strongest movie out of the whole saga. Despite the Evil Lucas' interference, he succeeds in sticking to HIS own vision and story...
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This is another classic: Gary Kurtz's ideas for the direction for SW were more profound than Lucas'. Lucas did not care about story and was only interested in thrills.... SW would have been darker..... hence better if Kurtz ran things...
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Feb 04, 2008 3:24:46 PM CST
Not only is the Zahn trilogy not worthy of the adaptation...
by darthcorleone
...but they would need to rewrite a major aspect of it related to the cloning. Lucas killed that storyline's consistency with his film universe when he officially made the stormtroopers clones in the prequels. They are entertaining, passable books, but they would not make an "awesome" translation as some of you seem to think.
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If you don't want Lucas in your Star Wars, then stick to reading the Dark Horse comics and the old Marvel Comics.
This is Lucas' story, his galaxy, his characters. I'm really sick of the Lucas bashing. He brought you Star Wars in the first place, and he's owed a debt of gratitude for his imagination and vision.
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I realize Fett never did much, but people immediately latched onto him and his beaten-up green and red armor. Lucas conceded to this by giving Fett his own backstory and childhood in the prequels. You see him and know he's up to something besides fucking bounty hunting. Why not have that explode in a big way? He didn't die when the sarlaac ate him, he was too tough and his armor was inedible.
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The biggest problem with the PT is that there is very little chemistry. ANH and ESB both had that extra magic, that's why they worked so well. Harrison Ford was Han Solo. Mark Hamill was Luke Skywalker. Those actors sold us the lines bad or good and it worked. The new movies did not have that magic. The new actors for the most part did not sell there lines to me, they were not believable. At times they did look like they were reading their lines.
When talking about the PT with friends it was always that kid that played Anakin Skywalker. I could never get past Samual L Jackson either, he was never Mace to me. He was all ways Samual L Jackson in a Star Wars movie. I don't believe it was the actors fault either, I think it came from poor direction. Anyway, I did enjoy the PT for all it's faults. The OT just had that mojo, everything lined up and it worked out great. -
Bring Fett back in a big way for 7,8 and 9. He's been built up as a bad ass and he could alive. Plus the guy that played Jango was one of the better casting choices for the PT. I believed him in the movies, I didn't feel like I was being read the lines when he was on the screen. Since Boba was a clone that guy could play him again.
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Yay!
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Thats where I'd put em, from greatest to least.
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I think Lucas is great. I really do, I watch or read anything I can find about the guy. But it's been a fantasy of mine to see Star Wars all the way through and that means Episode 7,8 and 9. Lucas started the myth when he made Star Wars episode 4. and said the story would have nine episodes. That was the coolest thing to me as a kid and I looked forward to it ever since. I know he's offered Spielberg the chance to direct a Star Wars movie. And I know Lucas could go in and outline a great story then hire some bad ass to write it up. That's why it just seems silly to me to go in and do more on the Clone Wars when there is new territory to cover. Make the Myth!!!
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Or the Legacy of the Force novels, for that matter. Most EU is crap, but the Legacy comic is great, and I'm really enjoying the LotF novels.
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I'll try it out sounds good. I'm still not giving up on my campaign to get the final trilogy made.
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lol good shit there pal.
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I'm not a huge fan of the over use of CGI but I think the explaination would be this: Say I'm in cuba today 2/4/08 and everything is run down, beat up and old looking. I then some how take a time machine back to cuba before the dictatorship, Castro, and everything is new,shinny, modern and nice. That's kind of the way I see it, right or wrong who knows. Basiclly the Empire comes in and stops progress and everything kind of falls apart and gets old and beat up.
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work for the planet shots like Mustufar and that sinkhole planet Obi Wan goes too.
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like Dooku, and the Geonosians and the Trade Federation people.
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You're right. Lucas was poised to become one of the greatest directors of our generation. THX-1138 was amazing. Very dark and shot almost like a documentary. Same as American Graffiti. Shot like a documentary but with extremely realistic performances. Lucas was set to direct Apocalypse Now as well (before Coppola snatched it up and ran). The Star Wars franchise has robbed us of some amazing "real world" Lucas films.
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Oh yeah, anyone else ever watch the Hearts Of Darkness documentary where Lucas & John Milius were going to actually film Apocalypse Now IN Vietnam during the war? Lucas said they were going to shoot it on 16mm for a documentary look and feel. I always felt cheated not seeing Lucas' Apocalypse Now. I have no doubt it would have been amazing (and much less self-indulgent than Coppola's version)
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The reason why the PT is shiny and new and futuristic and the OT is beat up and used and old is because the Empire has overtaxed and overcontrolled itself to the point where innovation is gone, and all systems have lapsed into entropy. It does make sense, actually. Cuba is a good example, or Russia/Soviet Union.
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natural. Yeah, the Empire has special floor and wall droid washers that make those hallways look spic and span every morning.
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great. Also they went back to Luke's home in AOTC, that was great. You can't say that planet at the end of ROTS did not look great.
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was the crappiest looking set in the entire saga.
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I'm just saying why I thought they designed the PT to look new and shinny, I really like that little detail about the PT. But I would agree about how sometimes the actors just look completly out of place there is no question about that. There are a lot of parts in the PT where I don't believe the actors have a clue as to what they are doing or looking at. Anyway, I do like the volcano planet and there are a lot of things that do look great in the PT but mostly in ROTS. But really my campaign is to get 7,8and9 made and made the right way. I think if Speilberg were givin the chance to do a Star Wars episode his way he could do something really special. I also like Guillermo del Torro, I think if he had the chance to do an episode it would be right back in the ball park maybe even darker an creeper than any thing. I'm just saying that I believe 7,8and9 need to be made for the die hard fan. I remember back a long long time ago Lucas said it, 9 episodes.
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"Hold me. Hold me like you held me by the lake on Naboo." Portman should have won an award for saying that one with a straight face. Seriously, Lucas needs to stop treading water and move this franchise FORWARD with NEW DIRECTORS and REAL WRITERS, and, otherwise, not be involved to much. Whatever happened to all those low-budget indies he was gonna make, anyway?
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At this point he should just kind of outline the story maybe then let some good people in to create the action and drama. How about Ron Moore from Battlestar Galactica? I bet he could put together some great action, drama and plot twist. How cool would that be?
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and have emotional problems.
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Sure why not, but not all of them just some of them and as long as it's believable, it's got to be believable. And in the SW universe it would probably be death sticks not booze.
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and be married to a skank like dee.
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I would love to see Mark Hamill just sick and tired of it all fat stung out on deathsticks and blue milk.
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I love BSG, but RDM's ideas are too serious for SW.
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RDM would have to tone it down a notch or two for sure I would just like to see it a little bit dark than ep I and II. I couldn't stand to hear weeeeee again in SW that's a little to light for me. I wish that kid had more emotional problems.
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At least a Michael "Dumb" Bay's Superman would have been fun to watch. Dumb, sure, but fun.
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death sticks should be retconned. They aren't some kind of killer space-crack. Death Sticks is a stupid as hell name for a drug. They're actually tasty space cookies, like pocky or something similar. The alien that tried to sell Obi Wan on them was just an interplanetary girl scout. Otherwise it is almost as dumb as that anti-drug commercial from the 90's with the kid that said "I got some stuff you just gotta try. It's crack--you know,marijuana?"
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...not producing (McCallum) or writing (Kevin Campbell and Henry Gilroy among others, GL is only credited for writing the original universe), or even directing (Brian O'Connell and Dave Bullock among others), so I don't know why people 'gots theys panties in a bunch' about Lucas writing or directing it to death. Idjits.I'm late to the party here, but why aren't people checking the facts? www.IMDB.com You're welcomeSo many of you wanted people who love SW to take the reins and go with it, but keep the SW vibe. It seems like that is happening. Personally, I'm stoked. Let's see how it fairs and then we can cheer or jeer all we can muster.Man, I should be getting kick-backs from Lucasfilm.
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Lucas is exec. producing, but I still feel pretty good that it'll still be cool.
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let's think about this: HDTV in the comfort of your own home watching 4 back-to-back eps or paying $10 for a movie ticket and $25 for soda and some milk duds? yeah. woohoo. go theatrical. I'd rather DVR it in HD.
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I'm just going to throw this out there, coz it's been bugging me for a long, long time...
RICK MCCALLUM is the one to blame!
For the first two movies, Lucas had Gary "the colonel" Kurtz telling him things like "no George, that's a dumb idea" or "that's a fantastic idea George, but it's never going to happen" but then for ROTJ he got McCallum who only said things like "yes George" and "yes George" and "yes George" and it was all downhill from there...
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Why not blame yourself. You got yourself sucked into the hype.
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Moron.
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Its all your fault. Everything. Everything bad or good or indifferent is all your fault. The teeming mass of humanity, mewling, yelling, spawning, writing in its own collective filth of eons. Why hasn't anyone put this sad race -- that is, the human race -- out of its misery. Not a day goes by that I don't fantasize about the end of the world, and then the endless sleep and rest of oblivion (aka paradise: nothing).
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Lucas has said he doesn't want to be doing more SW movies. He says he wants to move on and do other things. I think thats great and would LOVE to see other things from him. But he also said along time back that he was going to make episode 7 8 and 9. Well now he says there is no more story to tell except for this Clone Wars thing. Well as a fan I'm trying to voice my opinion and say stick with the original plan and make 7 8 and 9. To me it makes more sense then doing what we've all ready seen. I'm sure it will be cool. I can't speak for everyone, I'm just saying give this fan what he want's.
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...and with George exec producing only (basically, ponying up the cash). We all paid to see all the PT movies more than once at the theater, mainly because we were in denial about how much they sucked and what a wasted opportunity they were, then bought them on VHS and DVD because surely there was something we missed and they couldn't have sucked as much as they did. But they did. So now, lets see some hungry turks immersed in modern thriller-crafting take the next movies to the next level of IMAX 3D, epic, wall-to-wall, chemistry-rich badassery. We want the SW/TESB magic back, we want it feature-length, and we want it set POST-Jedi. Theatrical animation and live action TV is unnecessarily going DOWN a level yet again, and everyone knows it. Who the hell is asking for more 'Clone Wars'...? Tch.
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I'm not interested in more Clone Wars. That's what I don't get, where did he get the idea that the fans want more Clone Wars?? Anyway, I completly agree, lets put all of this PT stuff behind and move on. If Lucas can turn over his beloved TV series to someone else I don't think he should have a problem with turning the final trilogy over to some new hungry creative forces. And maybe Rick McCallum should not come back. Someone else made that point and that may be a good call. Oh and one more thing PLEASE don't market the final trilogy as episode 7 8 and 9. Please go retro and call them by a title like they used to do in the old days. Like Empire Strikes Back and so on.
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I've heard it all now. Describing that as innovative? My god. That was a low point of the saga. Infinitely lame. We should have cared that the jedi are being wiped out. Not laughing. 66 is only one 6 less than 666! OMG!!!!! The emperor gets on his tele-phone and calls all his troops. God.
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According to a 1983 Time magazine article, its (sequel trilogy) main theme would have been "the necessity for moral choices and the wisdom needed to distinguish right from wrong". Based on statements at the time from Lucas, a major villain in the sequel trilogy would have been a figure previously frozen from Revenge of the Sith. In an interview with Lucas from Bantha Tracks in 1980 Lucas was asked what the third SW trilogy was about and he said that "It deals with the character that survives Star Wars III and his adventures."
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In the sequel Luke would be a sixty-year-old Jedi knight. Han Solo and Leia would be together…The sequel focuses mainly on Luke, and Lucas says Mark Hamill will have first crack at the part if he is old enough. 'If the first trilogy is social and political and talks about how society evolves,' Lucas says, 'Star Wars is more about personal growth and self realization, and the third deals with moral and philosophical problems. The sequel is about Jedi knighthood, justice, confrontation, and passing on what you have learned.'
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Henson is getting a biopic. to be directed by penny marshall. Michel Gondry would have been a better choice. Im still hoping that this is a film that doesnt get made. Henson is a hero of mine. and to have hollywood screw up his short life story. I think they should pass.
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What villain could have been frozen from III? Please, please not Grevious. I really can't think of anybody, unless it turns out that Anakin was frozen and Vader was a completely different dude or a clone. And that would be utterly insane. Baron Papanoida?
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Who would play Henson? I vote Toby Macguire. put a beard on that boy and you're set.
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...for this material at the moment myself. But I wonder how much better Eps I-III would have been if Lucas has just gone with fully digital animation. Maybe the new stuff, digital or traditional or 3D or whatever they come up with, will actually be better than the last turds... I mean films. I have to be honest in saying that I'm not up to date with the stuff that's already aired, but this stuff is animated in a different style, right?
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"It deals with the character that survives Star Wars III and his adventures."
Episodes 7, 8 & 9...the Adventures of Jar Jar Binks!!!In all seriousness, weren't the plans for the sequel trilogy based on the idea that Palpatine wouldn't show up in, and certainly wouldn't die in episode 6? OT was Luke vs Vader, ST was to have been Luke vs Palpatine. Instead they just threw him into Jedi because Lucas was sick of Star Wars at the time. The only person who was in 3 of any consequence that I could realistically see surviving would be Mace, but you'd figure if he did survive he would have been on Alderaan anyways. One old timey Jedi hiding around Luke and the other hiding around Leia. -
Those little quotes I found from Lucus are from the 70s and early 80s. And yes the plan was not to have Palpatine show up until episode 9. Then Luke and his long lost sister (not Leia) would take him down and restore order to the galaxy. So all this was talked about way way before Episode 4 or 5 let alone the PT. I think it was Kurtz that let this info out but I"m not sure. Anyway for them to really do 7 8 9 they would really have to come up with some new stuff but my point is they are doing that anyway with the Clone Wars.
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Yeah that's right!
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