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Frank Darabont shows off a special feature on THE MIST DVD - plus - what's going on with THE WOLFMAN?

Hey folks, Harry here - This morning I got a nice little email from Frank Darabont regarding his impending DVD of THE MIST! When people send Video via email - it's always a surprise.... it could be something delightful... or it could be something morally offensive that you can't stop watching repeatedly then subjecting all your friends to, against their better judgement. Well - this time - it's much better. THE MIST will be released on March 25th - and for now - other than knowing there will be a 2-Disc Special Edition - there's not much known... till this special video that Frank sent me. On the second disc - there's an alternate version of the feature film - made especially for hardcore vintage horror film geeks (like me). But wait... here, let's have Frank spoil it all on his own...

Ok - Now that that is out of the way - let's discuss THE WOLF MAN. The Hollywood Reporter has done a pretty good job of displaying who is currently in the field. Right now, I've heard that Brett is out. But the others they mention are decidedly superior... First - there's FRANK DARABONT - Personally - I can't imagine a better choice. Frank is a director with an eye for detail, a passion for the material and an exquisite technique. There's JAMES MANGOLD - Again here's a tremendous director, whose 3:10 TO YUMA really was a shock to the system. There's JOE JOHNSTON - Director of THE ROCKETEER, JUMANJI, OCTOBER SKY and JURASSIC PARK III - He's never made a film quite like this one. A film of atmosphere, powerful acting and horror - but I wouldn't bet he couldn't pull it off. Joe is pretty damn amazing. There's BILL CONDON - sure most of you are thinking about Bill from films like DREAMGIRLS or KINSEY - but do you remember his love letter to Universal Horror and Director James Whale - the absolutely brilliant GODS AND MONSTERS? His WOLFMAN could be something rather incredible as well. In addition to the names mentioned in the Hollywood Reporter - I've also heard that Neil Marshall is pursuing this rather intensely... He's done the werewolf vein before with DOG SOLDIERS, a film I'm really quite fond of... even if the budget did sort of hold it back a bit. And the amazing DESCENT. The real question here is could he tackle a film with problems at this size of budget? Or is his indie horror experience the exact thing necessary? There's also MARTIN CAMPBELL - who I'm not especially a big fan of. He's done big films, but other than the excellent CASINO ROYALE - he's been a bit of a mess. The folks at The Collider have heard that JOHN LANDIS is vying for the job! God, that would be cool. Then there's the last name I've heard in the rumor mill... GUILLERMO DEL TORO - I'd love to see a Guillermo WOLF MAN movie. I think he'd do amazing work on it, but it would compromise the post production on HELLBOY 2 - and serve to distract him in the pre-production and development phase of the HOBBIT films. All in all - if it was my choice - I'm thinking FRANK DARABONT feels the most right. What do you folks think?

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  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:09 p.m. CST

    Go Frank!

    by Kloipy

    I fucking LOVED the Mist and I will be buying it the day it comes out.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    I've been telling people this, and I want your opinion on it as well. I loved the mist right away, however I know a lot of people didn't like it or see it. I think that it is going to be huge on DVD just the way Shawshank was. What are your thoughts?

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Haven't see The Mist yet

    by buffywrestling

    but Darabont seems a good chioce. Second choice for me would be James Mangold..

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST


    by bibble 3000


  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    also I think Frank would do great with Wolf-Man

    by Kloipy

    he understands how to make a classic movie

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    I'd cast my vote for...

    by The Real MiraJeff

    Condon. No offense to Mr. Darabont, who is a brilliant writer, but The Mist was one of the most frustrating theatrical experiences I've had in some time. Condon is an Actor's Director, which is what Harry was advocating for all along. He even got Brendan Fraser to deliver a good perf. in G&M. I'd definitely like to see Condon return to darker material and his name excites me more than the others on the list, though there's no denying the project would be in safe hands with Guillermo. Plus, I've always wanted the del Toros to work together.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:18 p.m. CST

    Wrong Theater?

    by FilmFan311

    I thought THE MIST was nothing more than a badly acted, Sci-Fi Channel Piece of Shit masquerading as a feature film. Ending was laughably bad too. Tomato, TomaTOE, I guess.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    ever visited Lilja's Library?

    by Vespalad

    Lilja's-Library dot com keeps up to date on all things King, and posted info on the Mist DVD January 23rd. Now, as cool as I think it would be to see Darabont direct Wolf Man, I dont want anything to cause him to keep pushing back The Long Walk. OR just put him to work on the (stalled? not happening anymore?) Talisman project (which should be two or three movies, not a made-for-tv project). AND, how about an update on the Abrams/Dark Tower project? Come on Harry, I know if you dig you could find SOMETHING out about these projects for us.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    this might seem a little naive...

    by damagedinc

    but wouldn't you get a similar effect by turning the color down on your TV? Is there a certain worn in grey-ish look that he's going for? Will there be a washed out mono mix of the audio? Maybe he could include a bad red-and-blue 3-D version for added kitsch? Don't get me wrong. I loved this movie and I think that this is a great idea but there's gotta be something more to this than a change in the color.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    What No Nicholas Meyer ???

    by picardsucks

    I'll take Darabount if I can't have Nick Meyer cut from a similar cloth

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    I can see him pulling it off

    by RoarsLoudly

    But it would sure be interesting to have Bill Condon take a jab at it!

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:21 p.m. CST


    by Kubla_Khan

    Go Frankie-D! My other choice would be Stephen Norrington, and before lots of bitches start bleating at me, let me just say it's because I feel that he's not had a chance to really make "the one" yet. And I'm not talking about that shitty wasted-concept flick with Jet Li and Jason Statham. I'm talking about a real balls-to-the-wall, darkly emotional, atmospheric, career-defining film. And I reckon he could pull this off. He's had some bad breaks, give him a chance to really step up.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:23 p.m. CST

    can't wait for Long Walk

    by Kloipy

    but I hope they never make a dark tower, they will fuck it up

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    mirajeff "most frustrating theatrical experiences I've had "

    by Kloipy

    did you throw up?

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Isn't there a Lon Chaney IV who can handle this?

    by Det. John Kimble

    Of course he'd have to be an actor/director

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Frank, definitely.

    by MaxTheSilent

    As for this black and white version of THE MIST; I hope it isn't just, literally, a B&W version. I'd like to think they would colour time the movie differently, enhancing contrasts and whatnot to really give it an old-school B&W feel.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:27 p.m. CST

    my choice

    by Bloo

    would be either Darabont or Condon, both can capture atmopshere, work well with actors, deal in a period setting. Although Marshall is an interesting choice.<P>As for Joe Johnston, I love Johnston, he's one of my favorite "unknown" directors and you can tell he's been mentored by Spielberg but has a nice early 'Berg touch to him, but I've been holding out for him to do narnia:Voyage of the Dawn Treader

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST


    by 5 by 5

    I dig Frank, he hasn't let me down yet.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    i don't understand the hate for the ending *spoilers*

    by Kloipy

    It was a good conclusion. Everyone bitches that they didn't wait long enough to decide to do a mercy kill? How long did you want the movie to stay in the car? 30 more minutes? I for one, in that situation would have done the same thing. I'd rather get shot than torn to pieces. It's a twilight zone ending that was great for the movie.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    Rod Daniel is the obvious choice. . .

    by Nice Marmot

    . . . I'm sure he's not busy.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:30 p.m. CST

    Bill Condon

    by skimn

    Also remember those odd Strange Behavior and Strange Invaders movies he co-wrote in the early eighties.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    funny that glovedone/braff thinks I'm a stalker

    by Kloipy

    he's the one who has been following me around all day? What's wrong little glovedone? Are you sad cause you got banned for making fun of Heath Ledger right after he died in his obit page?

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    I liked the book ending better as well, but I liked what Frank did too.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:32 p.m. CST

    THE MIST had me laughing as I left the theater

    by caruso_stalker217

    I love the fuck out of that movie. Best theater-going experience of my life. Just seeing all those pissed off moviegoers shaking their heads and saying "That sucked!" God, I love it!

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Wait, This is Darabont Pitching HIMSELF For Wolfman!!

    by cowboyone

    Fairly transparent (but smart) No?

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Definitely some interesting choices in there

    by IndustryKiller!

    Each one would bring something totally different. I don't think I want James Mangold, the guy just doesn't do atmosphere and I think he's a bit workmanlike in his sensibilities. Same goes for Campbell. This is a project that needs a certain creative spark. I think Darabont or Condon would both be really good choices. And both seem to be actors directors, and with pedigree like this in a film an actors director would be a match made in heaven.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    I choose Bill Condon, and here's why...

    by MasterBateman

    Am I the only one who thinks that Candyman: Farwell to the Flesh is one of the greatest horror sequels of recent time? I didn't care for Dreamgirls, but as long as Beyonce's not in this, it should be amazing.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST

    caruso_stalker217's movie experience was total..

    by JBouganim1

    was the total opposite of mine. Everyone ate it up and loved it. I have never witnessed a crowd reaction to the shooting of the harden. I loved it and will def buy on dvd.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    I loved the mist


    the only big dissapointment was we didn't get to see a tank shoot down the giant cloverfield 4 leg thing

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    The ending of The Mist was the best part.

    by TheContinentalOp

    I love the novella (I've probably read it three or four times in the past 15 years), and while I think its original ending was creepy, it's still standard and kind of obvious. The ending of the movie is so much crueler and more unexpected that you actually wish the world had ended. It would have been a relief if a tentacle had snatched Tom Jane away to a welcome death, but instead, the movie leaves him (and the audience) with a gut-wrenching case of survivor's guilt, rather than the comfy embrace of oblivion. And you gotta admit, it took balls to push that shit through the test-screening system. I never cared for Darabont before, but I'll definitely watch his Wolfman if he ever gets the chance to make it.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:44 p.m. CST

    Joe Johnston!

    by futureman3000

    That's who I want. I think Darabount is too liked by the geek community too much. Mangold is my 2nd.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Just glad it's not Ratner

    by beetlegeuse

    Hope its not Joe Johnston, I'd like to see what Bill Condon could do with the material

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Mist was amazing

    by MetiphisLabs

    It separated the true story lovers from the spoiled movie goers that want their endings and experiences homogenized for them. Pampered bitches.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    I think he could do a great job with wolfman as well. He seems to understand the subtle into drastic change between man and monster

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST


    by caruso_stalker217

    Everybody seemed more or less onboard until the ending. Though at the beginning there was snickering and stuff at the stilted dialogue and acting, but they grew quiet after a while when things started to get a little oogier.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:50 p.m. CST

    Renny for WOLF MAN!

    by caruso_stalker217

    Come on. You guys no you want to see that.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:52 p.m. CST

    when I saw Mist

    by Kloipy

    my theater loved it as well. it was dead silent in the last 5 minutes. And I don't care what anyone says, listening to Jane scream at the end fucking hurt. And the story was never just about the monsters, it was about the people and the way they can drop all moral standards when things are life and death

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:52 p.m. CST

    Are people forgetting...

    by AnimalStructure

    It's the fucking Wolf Man. Get a grip! This movie is going to stink no matter who does it. And you ask why? It's the fuckin' Wolf Man! <p> And The Mist was awful, really stupid film filled with stupid people. The religion shit was too overdone and the ending was preposterous. No humans would act like that in the car. So fucking lame.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    Really? No one would act like that in the situation? When you have to decide between letting your kid get eaten by monsters or letting him die quickly? That doesn't make any sense.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:56 p.m. CST

    I think Condon has an appreciation for

    by skimn

    the this still a period piece?? And sometimes an out-of-left-field approach works Cuoron and Potter..

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    the rat is out? FUCK YEAH!!!

    by ludmir88


  • Feb. 1, 2008, 3:59 p.m. CST

    love to see it by...

    by funktion3

    Cuaron or Iñárritu

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4 p.m. CST


    by Gilkuliehe

    Living in the third world country that I am, I always get movies late, and I'll be DAMNED if you people don't always surprise me. I'm expecting GREAT things out of the MIST and here you are badmouthing the shit out of it. It's friggin DEATHPROOF all over again. So which is it this time... Good or bad, folks? (Try to answer in a polite un-spoilerish manner, thank you)

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST


    by GingerBallz

    The Mist was the single best movie I saw in theaters in 2007. For me, it was the perfect throwback to what makes a horror movie good AND scary. He took it back to the storytelling. We've had all of these shock-factor based films in the past ten years or so like The Grudge or The Ring that just try to make you think you're scared because of some remotely creepy aura they create with harsh compositions and digital tricks, but it to me it's really movies like The Mist that take your fright and concern down to the character level. Darabont has never, ever disappointed me. He has my vote.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    The Anti-Colorized Version...

    by BoggyCreekBeast

    Dig it and dig it DEEP!

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:04 p.m. CST


    by caruso_stalker217

    Is shit.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST

    Wolfman could be a good psychological thriller

    by skimn

    ..Animal Structure, when Robocop came out, I thought (from the trailer) it was the stupidest idea ever. Then I saw it, and realized that the hokiest of premises could be the basis of something really good.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    "Death Proof is shit."

    by TheContinentalOp

    I love in-depth film criticism like that. The opinions of people who partake in it are about as worthwhile as those of a drunk yelling out "Fuck all y'all" on a street corner in the middle of the night.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    Mist was one of the best movies of last year

    by BrowncoatJedi

    Screw all you haters. Go jack off to your torture porn. Or Hannah Montana.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:09 p.m. CST

    How the hell did ROBOCOP ever work?

    by caruso_stalker217

    I've been pondering this forever. I mean it's got a fucking scene where RoboCop is doing pilates in Ronnie Cox's office for God's sake! And it isn't at all ridiculous. I guess they just don't make them like they used to.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST


    by caruso_stalker217

    I apologize. I'd give you an in depth analysis of DEATH PROOF, but let's face it, nobody wants to read that shit. So I was reduced to summing up my feelings with those four words. I've pretty much said everything I had to say about the film out loud after it was over. <p>Kurt Russell was fantastic, however. Best part of the whole thing.</p>

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Why is it that....

    by Mr. Profit

    People who defend "The Mist" relentlessly assume that people have major problems with the ending? I didn't love the film. I thought the dialogue was a little too much like a book, but I let it slide. The acting was great. And the movie was decent overall. The ending didn't piss me off. We laughed on the way out on some "that was fucked up!" type shit. My main problem was the really fucking weak CGI. The warehouse scene should have been scary.but that tentacle looked bogus, and the huge flying bugs looked corny. When the animatronics of "The Thing" trump the CGI in ur movie, you got problems. If their special effects were on point, "The Mist" would have really been special. Instead it was a B Flick with bad effects and great acting.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:16 p.m. CST

    I didn't have a problem with the effects

    by caruso_stalker217

    If you want bad fucking effects, check out that "gingerbread man" scene in THE BROTHER'S GRIMM.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:18 p.m. CST

    The creatures themselves are my only complaint

    by caruso_stalker217

    I thought they showed them way too much. And I was still disappointed that the spiders weren't the sixteen-legged mutants from the story. I also didn't really care for the "lobster" creature near the end. Nothing beats the movie I had in my head, but I thought Darabont's film was pretty damn good.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:19 p.m. CST

    I'm glad somebody else was thinking Renny

    by caruso_stalker217

    Even if in a negative context. <p>Seriously, though, I would love to see Renny Harlin's WOLF MAN.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:22 p.m. CST


    by travis-dane

    how`s that for an review!maybe to short?

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST


    by caruso_stalker217

    Yeah baby! Mine's longer!

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:24 p.m. CST

    But Renny is doing the "Werewolfs on the Moon" movie.

    by travis-dane

    Is the moon allways "full" when you are standing on it?

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    Alex Proyas

    by Mr. Profit

    Should have a shot at Wolfman. Let Darabont get to his other projects that his fans have been anticipating from him. Guillermo is like a cliched choice right now. He is attached to any genre film in development. Marshall did an awesome job in The Descent, but I dunno about Doomsday. And yup I enjoyed Death Proof too. Enjoyed it more than most of QT's films.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    Your english is better then mine caruso!

    by travis-dane


  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:26 p.m. CST

    The Rocketeer

    by kwisatzhaderach

    What an amazing film. Just had to say.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:27 p.m. CST

    My thoughts on werewolves is...

    by caruso_stalker217

    ...the actual Moon has no bearing on their transformations. Their cycle just happens to coincide with the Moon's. Therefore, at the time when the Moon is at it's "fullest" the werewolf is at his most "lupine." Quarter and half-moons, the werewolf is only PARTIALLY transformed. You heard it hear, folks.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:28 p.m. CST

    Well, it is my first language, travis

    by caruso_stalker217

    Have you heard that saying? If you speak three languages you're tri-lingual. If you speak two languages you're bi-lingual. If you speak one language you're American.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:29 p.m. CST

    I think the DVD should turn into a mist

    by skywalkerfamily

    after you buy it because you'll never want to see it again.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST

    Good one caruso....

    by travis-dane

    never heard that before.Christ on a fucking moped!

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    I hope Darabont gets it.

    by SebastianHaff

    The Mist was one of my favorite films of '07. We need more horror like that one. Less horror like The Eye, please.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    i guess we agree on one thing

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    oh and i'm so happy that braff/glovedone got banned

    by Kloipy


  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    exactly Bacci

    by Kloipy

    thank you, dead on

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    Yeah Mist's ending was very ballsy

    by Han Cholo

    I bet it took a lot for Frank to be able to keep that ending intact. I do wish there was an alternate, happy ending so I could choose either on the DVD but looking at the film I guess it had to happen. Awesome movie in my opinion with one of the most depressing endings I've seen.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST

    No contest

    by twatend

    Marshall is the man for the job. He'd bring the intensity, humour and freshness that he's brought to everything he's done. All both of them.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 4:59 p.m. CST


    by whatyoufear

    Ratner should be cast for a brief cameo as Vic Morrow

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Anything "feels better" than Ratner

    by Aethyrr

    And I mean anything

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST


    by greigy just wanted to say

    He has to do it..!!!!! God this could be so good.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:28 p.m. CST

    hack hack hack

    by birdy birdman

    almost as hackly as hack van san he hacked up the must and now hes just hacking away at whatever comes along

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    I suppose it's out of the question

    by alpha

    For them to have an alternate version without Darabonts stupid tacked on bullshit ending.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    wow lets try that again

    by birdy birdman

    almost as hackly as hack van sant. he hacked up the mist and now he's just hacking away at whatever comes along. that ending fucking sucked if you're a stephen king fan. it would have been like if at the end of no country anton c has sat down and like blown his head off or something, something STUPID and NOT in the book. people who get jazzed over that ending, i do not agree with you

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    I'm a Stephen King fan

    by caruso_stalker217

    And I love the ending. I don't know what the fuckin' problem is. I tells ya, some people...

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:40 p.m. CST

    Am I the only one that really liked THE MIST?

    by Mike_D


  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:41 p.m. CST

    I think alot of people liked the Mist...

    by The Dum Guy

    I know people who liked the film more because of the bleak ending.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST


    by Digby_Higgins

    Hay jet...lurn two spel.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Ungrateful swine!

    by caruso_stalker217

    We're lucky we even got a movie! You should be happy with what you got! <p>Okay, that's what I'd say if I was a stupid douche. Still, you act like Darabont fucked your dad or something.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:44 p.m. CST

    Birdy Birdman

    by TheContinentalOp

    You won't find a bigger Stephen King fan than me, and I love the ending. Hell, even Big Steve loves the ending. Just because it isn't in the book doesn't mean it doesn't make sense. I'm not saying you don't have a right to your opinion, but I think the movie ending explores the themes presented in the rest of the movie (the way the decisions one person makes in times of crisis affects everyone around him/her) much better than the novella's ending, which was your basic horror anticlimax. We've seen that ending before. I've never seen Darabont's ending before.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Well said, ContinentalOp

    by caruso_stalker217

    That about sums up what I feel.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST

    Caruso Stalker

    by TheContinentalOp

    Thanks, man. I would also love to see Renny Harlin's Wolfman. Not as much as his Werewolves on the Moon, but when it comes to that crazy Finn, I'll take whatever lycanthropian action I can get.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST

    Hell yeah

    by caruso_stalker217

    Renny is a maniac. But I respect him, because he knew he had to back out of ALIEN 3. That would've been a big opportunity for him and for Renny "DEEP BLUE SEA" Harlin to quit an ALIEN picture because they were going for more guns and more aliens... well, that tells you something.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:55 p.m. CST


    by TheContinentalOp

    Wasn't his Alien 3 going to have the all-wood planet? That would have been pretty cool. Too bad about Covenant, though.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 5:58 p.m. CST

    Wooden planet was Vincent Ward's idea

    by caruso_stalker217

    He was brought on after Renny left. Wooden planet would've been a weird idea, but I don't think it really fits in the ALIEN universe. Still, I'd like to see a wooden planet movie some day.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:04 p.m. CST

    frank darabont

    by jonahhex

    I fucking loved the mist, and the endin was phenomenal. it worked just as well as when Lewis Teague changed the ending to Cujo. Both endings are valid and work well.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:07 p.m. CST

    No to Campell, no to Landis...

    by BrooseTheScharuk

    ...No to Marshall, no to Mangold, a big fat NOOOOOO to Ratt-ener... and I doubt Guillermo has any room for it. I think Darabont would be great, and I always like seeing Johnston have a go.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:10 p.m. CST


    by The Real MiraJeff

    Dude, honestly, you're beginning to get on my nerves a little. If you've got a bone to pick, gimme a call or shoot me an email and we can work it out. But jumping on every single comment of mine is getting old. I know the Boll fight was hilarious and all, but it's time to move on, buddy. You're not bringing anything to the discussion. And no I didn't throw up during The Mist, but I wanted to after that ham-fisted, dreary, non-sensical ending with that music that sounded more appropriate for Crash. A little melodramatic if you ask me.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Neil Marshall

    by loafroaster

    Without a doubt. Loves his old-school horror, directed one of the better (if not the only good?) werewolf movies of recent years, and can crank up the tension and make good character-driven pieces, as he showed us with The Descent. All he needs is a big-budget flick like this to announce to Hollywood that he's landed.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:14 p.m. CST

    I actually like Jurassic Park ///

    by odysseus

    I thought it was way better than Spielberg's Lost World.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:15 p.m. CST

    was the wooden planet...

    by loafroaster Alien 3 not Alex Cox's idea?

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:23 p.m. CST


    by caruso_stalker217

    It was Vincent Ward all the way.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    And if I'm wrong...

    by caruso_stalker217

    ...then I guess I'm not as big a fan of ALIEN 3 as I thought.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST

    Give it to Landis.

    by C Legion

    Yeah I know he hasn't made anything decent for a long time, but he has made the greatest Werewolf film of all time, I'd love to see him try to top it. Him working with Rick Baker again, a big budget, a top cast, and what is ssupposed to be a great script, fuck! I'd love to see that. Shame it won't happen though.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:39 p.m. CST

    I'm for either Frank or Landis

    by Kirbymanly

    Both know the genre inside and out and would deliver on what we're expecting.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:49 p.m. CST


    by ghekkomanic

    Maybe I'm biased, but the guy is a LEGEND: An American Werewolf in London, Trading Places, The Blues Brothers and does anyone here remember Innocent Blood? <p> I love Guillermo Del Toro as much as anyone, but he doesn't NEED this. I would love to see a comeback film from John Landis. And he's proved he can do scary. <p> I think we can all agree that Brett Ratner not directing this is cause for celebration, but am I the only one here excited about the prospect of seeing well deserved comeback?

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:50 p.m. CST

    Frank, Landis or Condon

    by mukhtabi

    Any of those three would create a fantastic actor showcase for the family of werewolves. Which the Wolfman basically sounded like, a family drama involving Werewolves. So one of those three please and I'll be a very contented geek who will see this film AT LEAST three times in the theater. Scout's honor.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    I'm sure this will be like "paint drying on a stick"...

    by Strabo know, like Truffaut's Fahrenheit 451.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 7:04 p.m. CST


    by DumbPunter

    How has his name not been thrown into the mix? He created one of the defining horror films with NOSFERATU, and just proved with RESCUE DAWN that he can still inspire amazing performances from his actors.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 7:39 p.m. CST

    michael mann

    by Mr.Slade

    no one knows how to capture the night better then mr mann, imagine collateral but with the wolf man insted of tom cruise, that would be fucking badass

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 7:41 p.m. CST

    Re: Darabont or Marshall!

    by Wolftever

    I absolutely loved The Mist, thought it was just an incredible piece of genre movie-making with a balls-out ending that I certainly didn't see coming. And The Descent was one of the best horror movies I've seen in a long, long time. So either one of these guys I think could pull off Wolf Man with no problem. All the directors mentioned could do well, I think, but Darabont or Marshall either one could knock it out of the park. As for you haters of The Mist, what gives? The ending rocked! Great movie!

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 7:45 p.m. CST

    they should get stephen king to direct this

    by Spoiler_Man

    hollywood keeps fucking up his books. he should get the chance to fuck up one of their movies.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 7:55 p.m. CST

    who cares what we think

    by quadrupletree

    What do those directors think? That's the big question. I never understand how these things work, there's a list of directors the studio is considering. But how did they get on that list? Are they even interested? The most important factor in my mind is if the director has a passion for this project and it's not just another job for him. Someone who brings a vision to it and really wants to do this. Any of those directors could do it if they really had a fire in them for this project.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 8 p.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    dude you felt the need to call out one of us, you should have known better. that shit isn't cool

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 8:19 p.m. CST


    by barrignite

    Lets all appreciate John for some fine work in the past. He did make a fine werewolf flick. He did create a fine batch of comedies. He did make the world's greatest music video for the world's most famous paedophile. All commendable. But he's a spent force. Like John Carpenter, his films were of an era and he has been struggling to keep up with fresh ideas for movies of today. Giving him WOLFMAN would be only out of the wave he still rides from the eighties and the end result, no matter how much we hate to admit it, would be only marginally better than the director who brought you a poor man's BEVERLY HILLS COP in MONEY TALKS.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST

    The Ending was Outer Limits Crap

    by RCFOM

    It really felt like I just watched an Outer Limits movie. I don't have a problem with a down ending I just didn't think it fit with the characters and the movie. One thing the movie showed was that unless you went into the Mist or opened the door the creatures made no real attempt to get at the people in the Market or in the cars. The flying thing did break the window and come in but that was only because it was after the bugs and then attracted to the lights. The big tentacle pushed against the loading door but other than that no attempt was made to enter the market. Also when they got in the car the spider knew they were in the car, could see them as well and all it did was climb over the car and go away. While they were driving they either saw other beast or knew they were there but not once did they bother them. So why in the world when the minute after you ran out of gas would you want to a mercy killing instead of waiting to see what happened. Plus if the monsters did start to attack the car you could just do a killing then. It totally just felt like some tacked on dumb ending to edgy and dark when it just sucked .

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 8:28 p.m. CST

    I nominate Victor Salva for THE WOLFMAN.

    by LoneGun

    Salva is perfect for this. He wrote and directed a fantastic bogeyman flick, JEEEPERS CREEPERS, which was very much in the tradition of old-school Universal horror movies. He's also showed that he has a flair for big effects with the sequel, CREEPERS 2. And from POWDER to PEACEFUL WARRIOR, his films just look amazing and have real atmosphere. They are populated with well-rounded, real human beings. Victor Salva would bring both style and integrity to THE WOLFMAN. And he'd deliver the scares, too.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 8:54 p.m. CST


    by The Real MiraJeff

    you're missing the bigger picture. this isn't about us vs. them. i am one of you. we are all part of the larger aicn community. it's ok to call each other out if we have a dissenting opinion. harry and i aren't going to agree all the time, just like you and i aren't going to agree all the time. sometimes you just gotta agree to disagree. but there's gotta be a line. and i feel like whatever i say lately, at least with regard to the wolf man and ratner in particular, you've just been blowing out of proportion and being a dick for the sake of it. i don't make personal attacks on anyone in the talkbacks because i don't know anyone in the talkbacks. maybe it's easy because you can type my name into youtube and watch me get my asthmatic ass kicked six ways til sunday but spend 5 minutes in a ring with a pissed off german bulldog and you'd be puking too. i'm all for having a laugh at myself and taking the piss, but doesn't that shit get old. let's call it water under the bridge and move on, shall we? on that note, GO PATS!

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST

    Bacci40 put on some glasses

    by 5 by 5

    We're not willing to give up our civil rights, we don't bomb every muslim country, we don't allow american citizens to be tortured or spied upon, and we don't have unreasonable fears regarding the islamo-fascists, they have shown they are more than willing to kill us. Maybe you should visit North Korea for a while so you can grab ya some perspective. Meanwhile I'll continue to live here where people are clamoring to get in to be free and prosperous.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 10 p.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    All I'm saying is that it isn't cool to just come out and challenge one of us to a fight. I don't care if it's just tounge in cheek. I don't see you challenging harry to fight because he called you 'a fucking retrad'. you get a black box for a reason that most of us will never have. So i'm just saying that you should have talked to Jarv in a more civil manager instead of asking him to fight you. I love coming on AICN, but there are people on here that I can't fucking stand sometimes, like glovedone/braff08 (even though he just got banned again), all I'm saying man is that it's not fair of you to single one of us out and yet just let someone like Harry call you out and do nothing about it to his face either. I'm done ragging on you man. It's not doing anything for you or me. I just hope in the future you think about who you are posting to. I gotta stand up for my friends no matter what as I would hope you would for yours. I appreciate you at least saying something back to me other than just pretending nothing happened. I'm trying to be civil with you. I just hope you understand my point too. I may have gone over the line, but I did it for my friend. And i would do it again if the need be.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 10:04 p.m. CST

    Bill Condon, from those choices. Good character director, visual

    by Vanderhorst

    Though I would again nominate Jonathan Glazer. I just know he'd nail it. Even if Birth creeped you out with its weird story, the feel of that is amazing - remember the sequence with the older man running through Central Park in the snow? Definitely Harris Savides as DP too.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 10:07 p.m. CST

    People who hate The Mist....

    by Jobacca

    Are idiots. The Mist is a kick ass horror film for grownups. It may be one of the scariest movies ever made....and by scary movie,I refer to films like Texas Chainsaw Massacre and The Exorcist not crap like Hostel or Scream or whatever else you young whippersnappers think is scary. I cant wait to see the B&W version on DVD!

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 10:10 p.m. CST

    I hear that Jobacca

    by Kloipy

    it didn't have a bunch of quick cuts and flashy 50cent music, or torture so I'm sure that's why they did like. I for one fucking loved every second of it. I can't wait to own it

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 10:10 p.m. CST

    Moive bombs

    by Series7

    Gets the double DVD treatment. Danny Boyle you need to learn how to through you weight. Unless Sunshine was REALLY cheap to make?

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 10:16 p.m. CST

    THE MIST is a true horror movie

    by caruso_stalker217

    Though I felt the lack of 50 Cent may have hurt the film in the long run.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Vanderhorst, Glazer is an inspired suggestion.

    by LoneGun

    BIRTH was an extraordinary flick with real mood to it. And Glazer's very good with actors, too. I still stand by my suggestion of Victor Salva, however, whom I think is just a bit more suitable to something as classical as the Wolfman. Still, Jonathan Glazer can definitely do horror. SEXY BEAST scared the crap out of me.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 10:23 p.m. CST

    I know John Landis son

    by TerryMalloy

    Craziest, wackiest kid I've ever met. He's hilarious.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 11:02 p.m. CST

    It's official. Guillermo's directing the Hobbit

    by Han Cholo

    Just heard it from IGN.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 11:08 p.m. CST


    by bunkyboo


  • Feb. 1, 2008, 11:19 p.m. CST


    by jah_kingdom

    I remember when "THE THING" came out it was hated. No one liked the ending, the special effects had people in an uproar and if it was at the movie theaters more than 2 months I'd be shocked. But now "THE THING" is loved and respected. "The Mist's ending blew me away. When the"Dead Can Dance" song came on the hairs on my neck stood up and I really felt the doom and hopelessness. It was one of the most memorable experiences I've had at the movies in along time. I believe time will prove me right. And for "Wolfman" I vote Norrington or Marshall. Love Landis' early movies but he's grown seriously out of touch. That easy Hollywood living has sucked out all of his creativity like Drew Barrymore can destroy a boyfriend/husbands talent.

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 11:29 p.m. CST

    Frank Darabont rules - he should do this...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    if not him, then Mangold - if not him, Condon - theyre the best fits for a "wolf man" remake - its so obvious based on their past work - Darabonts a class act and a real monster-movie lover - his "wolf man" would fucking kill - but coming off the success of "3:10" i can see this easily going to Mangold - i still remember seeing "heavy" and being very impressed years back - i think hes definately got a "wolf man" movie in him

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    Johnnyjlawless is right.

    by SebastianHaff

    He just forgot to mention how fucking badass Maximum Overdrive is!

  • Feb. 1, 2008, 11:49 p.m. CST

    Animalstructure, i disagree...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    "the wolf man" is a real classic - people will want to see this - its got a built in audience (anyone like me that grew up loving monster movies) - the cast and buzz alone will fill seats - even if its handled the wrong way and given the wrong director - the marketing for this will pull people in like moths to a porch light - even the lowest common denominators love werewolves - in other words, even if it sucks people will flock to it - i hope the studio has the balls to allow it an R rating - and "the mist" was great - best damn monster movie ive seen in many years - as someone stated above, its a lot like carpenters "the thing", it will gain even more fans in years to come

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Darabont = a safe choice but not an interesting one

    by LoneGun

    Don't get me wrong. I think he's a great director. I loved THE MIST. I just don't imagine him doing anything unique with THE WOLFMAN. Personally, I'd rather see Darabont devote his efforts to something different, perhaps a period piece, like a 1920's gangster film or even a period baseball drama. He's very versatile. For THE WOLFMAN, however, some other visionary filmmaker would be better. (Just keep Stephen Sommers as far away from it as possible.)

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 12:14 a.m. CST

    modern day monster movies

    by Prossor

    suck balls because the main effects medium is CGI. gone are the heyday of costumes, puppets, matte paintings, stop-motion, and other goodies when mixed together will ALWAYS be better than ShitGI, even ten years from now.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Off topic but...

    by hamslime

    since Maximum Overdrive was brought up, it reminded me of another movie Estevez was in called Wisdom. Anyone seen it recently? I saw it when I was about 11 or 12 and liked it, but you know how that goes sometimes. (Garbage Pail Kids: The Movie isn't exactly the cinematic triumph I remember it to be.)

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 12:32 a.m. CST

    Anyone who says Shawshank is not a great movie

    by Han Cholo

    is an asshole. It's impossible not to like the movie. I'd go so far as to say it's one of the greatest films of all time.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 12:35 a.m. CST


    by hamslime

    I kind of agree with you there. Romanek has a really cool style that would meld deliciously with Walker's words much in the same way Fincher did with Se7en. Darabont, I believe, intentionally makes his movies without any discenable style. Darabont would no doubt make a great movie, but damnit, I want to see a two hour Closer video with Benicio as a werewolf. Is that so wrong? This is why I need to stop reading about movies thirteen years before they actually come out.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 12:48 a.m. CST

    agreed with lonegun and prossor

    by ClockWorker

    I dont think darabont's right for THE WOLFMAN either it's like its too good of a match, I can't believe the other guy left, I was expecting a good film with quality makeup effects and maybe even no CGI at all. I wish people still used those techniques listed above they were all done in such different ways where as CG takes away all the need for innovation, and because of that it looks cheap. and its also because no one uses CG the right way anymore or if ever, there's only been a handful of directors that have achieved an authentic look with CG (PJackson, Speilberg, Cameron)

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Descent Was Shit

    by Shozo

    I'd like to say rather emphatically that The Descent was a useless piece of shit.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 12:57 a.m. CST

    The Cave > The Descent

    by Shozo

    No one remember The Cave from the year prior? Yeah, it was dumb too, but how can anyone honestly argue that The Descent was any better? It sucked my balls. And did not suck them well.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:02 a.m. CST

    I didnt the THE DESCENT at all

    by ClockWorker

    the characters were uninteresting, the plot typical, and it was just boring

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:03 a.m. CST


    by caruso_stalker217

    MAXIMUM OVERDRIVE is the shit! Who doesn't love that fucking movie? Jesus, that's a big chunk of my childhood right there.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:03 a.m. CST

    The Descent

    by hamslime

    I thought it was pretty good. I can't quite compare it to The Cave since I haven't seen it. The Descent gave me that same claustrophobic vibe I got while watching The Cube. To each his own though. However, I must say that it is pretty rude of you to have such hostility toward anyone or anything who was nice enough to suck your balls, no matter how bad it was.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:04 a.m. CST

    The Ending of The Mist

    by slayers bitch

    To all those bitching about the ending of The Mist & whether or not an alternate ending should be included on the DVD. Here is an idea....when the movie gets to the part with the giant monster walking by....(wait for it)....turn off the DVD! Done! You've got your King story exactly how you want it. -happy to help :)

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:06 a.m. CST

    Now that I think of it...

    by hamslime

    What's Vincenzo Natali doing. He would be perfect for Wolfman. Or was that already mentioned?

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:10 a.m. CST


    by hamslime

    He's doing Splice. I forgot about that one.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Soundwave voice: Book ending superior.

    by GibsonUSA

    Movie ending....inferior.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:44 a.m. CST

    "How long did you want the movie to stay in the car?"

    by GibsonUSA

    (SPOILERS)<BR><BR> Well why did they have to stay in the car? Running out of gas and offing each other within a few minutes defies human logic and nature to me when there is no imminent threat. Nothing was even spoken...if you are a MAN, and you have your son next to you, a beautiful young lady looking at you with fear, and two senior citizens in the back relying on you, what do you do?

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:48 a.m. CST

    The B&W will cover up the bad CG though.

    by GibsonUSA

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 2:08 a.m. CST

    Darabont gets my vote

    by Boba Fat

    P.S In your face Ratner!!

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST

    Isn't the book ending more downbeat?

    by Shan

    The book all but states that the mist has engulfed the entire world and ended civilisation as we know it. This ending suggests that they got rid of the mist somehow or it just faded away. Which seemed to me less likely, the book gave the impression to me of something that just kept pouring through the hole the Arrowhead Project tore with no end in sight.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 2:48 a.m. CST

    It's gotta be Uncle Frank! Universal have no other choice!

    by HarryBlackPotter

    Frank Darabont's Wolfman. It's a shoe-in, surely?

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 2:56 a.m. CST

    Lynch could make Wolfman...

    by zed261

    I know it's never going to happen, but he know how to make scary movie. I've seen Twin Peaks:FWWM again few days ago and that's a fuckin scary movie. He don't need CGI to make scary monster, just give him smut and dirty clothes. And he has some experiences directing deformed monster outsiders.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 3:01 a.m. CST

    Spoilers and whatnot

    by hamslime

    They stayed in the car because it was their only means of shelter. If you recall, a simple trip next door to the grocery store proved to be disasterous. A trip to a gas station (assuming they could find one in that thick fog) would be too dangerous to risk. I'm sure they though that the fog was an isolated phenomena and they wouldn't have to drive far to escape it. After that huge thing walked by, I got the feeling that the whole Earth was taken over by those things as I'm sure the characters did to. So now, since survival is no longer a realistic option, you have to look into other options: Do we wait until those things put us into a cocoon so our bodies can incubate a bunch of little spider things? Or do we finish the job quickly with a bullet? Even though you and I eventually knew how it ended, the characters did not. They lost hope and picked the lesser of two evils. As far as why they didn't stick it out in the car a bit longer, I just attribute to the pacing of the movie. The story is done now. Time to wrap it up. If Darabont stretched it out longer to show them giving up more you would have just as many people bitching about how long it took to finally end the thing. That and it would just be redundant. They gave up already, we don't need to see them do it again.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 3:02 a.m. CST

    Mangold doesn't want WOLFMAN

    by caruso_stalker217

    Time for Renny to step in.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 3:03 a.m. CST

    My other theory on why it ended that way.

    by hamslime

    It was in the script.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 3:16 a.m. CST

    THE MIST is a good movie

    by Sackratte

    I love the movie... it is one you can watch every week which shows how good it is made. I know enough movies which you only can watch once and you know every little bit of it afterwards. This are the movies which suck. So I think THE MIST works good because there is enough stuff going on to make it interesting enough to watch it again and again and again.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 3:19 a.m. CST

    Hated "The Mist," and I'm not retarded

    by Mister Man

    The acting is lost me well before the ending, which didn't bother me. The movie tanked, and deservedly so. Of course, it may have been the total kiss-ass AICN screening I attended in Austin. It was creepy, standing in line with people who probably wear Yoda costumes to "Star Wars" movies. I've been to many screening/Q&A's in LA, but I've never seen such a circle-jerk, fawn-fest in my life.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Darabont is a solid choice

    by moviemaniac-7

    But I am still holding out for Verhoeven...

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 4:56 a.m. CST

    Holy shit!

    by caruso_stalker217

    A Paul Verhoeven WOLFMAN would be fucking awesome.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 5:16 a.m. CST

    Comparing the Mist to the Thing

    by alpha

    Is like comparing a turd to a gold nugget. The Mist will be forgotten - hell it's already been forgotten.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 5:23 a.m. CST

    ANY of those guys would be awesome!

    by sonnyfern

    They'd all bring a different style and viewpoint to the long as it ain't plain jane Ratner I don't care. It really is hard to pick one of those directors, they'd all be damn interesting. This project just got good again!

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 6:07 a.m. CST

    I think none of them matter if..

    by Tourist

    ...They aren't given time to develop their own movie. If they are just stepping into Romaneks shoes and being glorified AD's, whats the point? If they want to start over, I would say Dante and Landis, even though neither has done anything but complete shit for years now, they had such a great feel for it back in the day. The rest could all probally do their own good work...But really, the entire drawcard for yet another fucking were wolf movie was Romanek. Now hes gone, whats the point?

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 7:09 a.m. CST

    Not Neil Marshall please!


    I'd rather see Ratner do it! Marshall's only good for stealing scenes, lines, characters, costumes, musical cues and even Type Faces from older, better movies! <P>And where the Hell is THE MIST UK release!!!???

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 7:16 a.m. CST

    The Pist Me the Fuck Off

    by birdy birdman

    you dont' do a homage to the Thing in the first five minutes and then proceed to clobber us with the CGI equivalent of projectile vomiting. the ending of the novella was more than an anti-climax, it was the hint at a resistance point, a possible holdout against the creatures from the rift. daranbont is a hack, he thinks he has exclusive rights to Stephen King's material, read his interview with Quint (I believe) from around the time of the Mist Screening and Q an d A at the Drafthouse. talking about what he would do to some other King projects (the long walk) for example in that interview (i know people will just jump on me without reading the interview but fuck it i'm trying to actually be polite), he's a pretentious, glorified hack that is getting more and more liberal with his interpretation of kings events. 'you act like daranbont fucked your dad', interesting choice of words there, you have to wonder what kind of subconscious train of thought leads to that analogy. so, i hated the garish, disgusting CGI, and no it didn't fuck my dad but yeah it DID fuck over a movie I had been waiting for since i was about 12. all i wanted was the translation of the source material, not...this. the mist is on my bottom 10 of 2007.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 7:20 a.m. CST

    daranbont's ending

    by birdy birdman

    was nothing more than a STUPID, inappropriate and ham-fisted attempt to make a social statement using an AWESOME stephen king story. we are not lucky we got this Mist. this is not the Mist. even the pivotal scene with the Earth Walker towards the end left much to be desired. with movies like no country absolutely nailing the translation of source material and doing it justice it's frustrating to see a purely titillating, fun, creature feature flick usurped by a dumb, middle-aged, don't get enough cardio-bleak outlook on life finale. flame me all you want or agree people, the ant hill is all yours.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 7:42 a.m. CST

    "you missed the point of the original story"

    by birdy birdman

    the original story was pure revelry in the concept, the claustrophobia, the twilight zone atmosphere, the societal microcosm was much more of an afterthought. if FD wanted to amplify those aspects of the story and make his own interpretation about society and moral responsibility and human nature he should have mined from material than wasn't so highly regarded by the original author's fanbase.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    So what you're saying is...

    by caruso_stalker217

    ...the director shouldn't make the film he wants to make because people like the source material too much?

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 8:06 a.m. CST

    true story

    by birdy birdman

    i also wanted to add to this a personal story, a small triumph in a sea of failures, i was riding my ghetto ass bike to the store the other day and these fratboys pulled up alongside me and said 'hey how many miles to the gallon does that thing get' and i said 'hey how bout i ride it to your frathouse and fuck your slut girlfriend' then the guy tried to push me so i hit him and fled on my Schwinn unscathed. true story! small triumph for us AICNers against the Dudebros!

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 8:09 a.m. CST

    no i'm saying he should make his own movie

    by birdy birdman

    and not subvert a good piece of sci-fi/creature horror with lord of the flies undertones into effin' just straight up lord of the flies meets who framed roger rabbit... at least due justice before you make a pretentious reference to the thing, the thing had an ORGANIC energy perpetuated through makeup, animatronics, this was who framed roger rabbit. cartoons and people. willing suspension of disbelief does not apply when its cartoons, and its ridiculous to try to juxtapose that with such a heavy handed "comment on the bleakness of humanity" barf.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST

    PS this is just one opinion, let's try to just debate it and not

    by birdy birdman

    saying that in advance

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST

    and not *get personal*

    by birdy birdman

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 8:40 a.m. CST

    Darabont is 2nd String At Best...

    by ZombWii

    Sorry, Darabont's films are well crafted enough and all, but lacking the emotional and psychological punch that tends to take a movie from good, to great. He has a history of doing Stephen King movies and horror sequels.. 'Nuff said. The only truly great King movie was done by a director who knew a thing or two about delivering arresting visuals and baking up a good old fashioned mind-fuck....and that was Kubrick's "The Shining". Neil Marshall came to mind immediately as a good possibility, he's shown that he can do horror, and that the best special effect is tying our guts into knots with the little things. And I think he could do really well with this, if he kept the cast small, and the atmosphere the foggy soundstages of the original. But I think the director I'd love to see do it is Marc Forester. (Monster's Ball, Finding Neverland, Stay). He gets great performances out of his actors, he can deliver arresting visuals, as well as handle complex material beautifully. Most importantly, he makes me believe. But of course, it looks like he's doing the new Bond.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Oh Snap! Forget all that...

    by ZombWii

    Picnic At Hanging Rock The Last Wave Mosquito Coast Peter Weir Peter Weir Peter Weir...

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    " but lacking the emotional and psychological punch that tends to take a movie from good, to great."<br> you really believe this? Shawshank redemption has of the biggest emotional punches I've ever seen! The Green Mile, holy shit it's like a punch to the chest. The Mist is able to make you hurt with the characters and doesn't rely on 30 minutes of giving you full backstory. How can you say that these movies don't capture King's spirit? I've been a huge King fan all my life and Darabont is the only director that I believe has been able to capture the spirit and heart of King's work.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    have you ever heard of mick garris?

    by birdy birdman

    riding the bullet has been quotes as king's personal favorite interpretation of his work, and that is a dramatically different style than any of daranbonts stuff, klop

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    King might like him, but none of his fans do. You might here one or two people that like the stand, but Mick also doesn't understand that TV is not the forum for Stephen King. Did you see Desperation? One of King's scariest work, and yet the movie looked like shit

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 9:48 a.m. CST

    true, but riding the bullet captured something

    by birdy birdman

    garris is a horror enthusiast, but pretty much a failed filmmaker. still, kings narrative style has never been captured better than in riding the bullet, EVER. did ya see it?

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST

    PS i liked the stand

    by birdy birdman

    there is an unmistakable, frumpy, 70s-90s era feel that characterizes kings work and in a way the stand captures this, in brief moments, pretty well. keep in ming SK has described much of his own work as "the literary equivalent of a Big Mac and Fries", so in a way they're a way they're also pretty cheesy and bad...but you have to respect the effort to follow the book relatively closely

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST

    SOME OF kings work

    by birdy birdman

    stuff like christine, pet sematary, a lot of the character development in the stand, short works like riding the bullet and the mist but also stuff like word processor of the gods, rage, the jaunt...a frumpy element, like a bad 90s haircut, but an awesome energy, and not everything either by any means

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 9:59 a.m. CST

    yeah, I saw riding the bullet

    by Kloipy

    it was alright. I mean, I glad that Mick loves King so much, but it's too bad he's not a better director

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 10:02 a.m. CST

    when i say "they're fun, they're bad"

    by birdy birdman

    im referring just to portions and segments from the stand miniseries, not saying that kings works try to be intentionally cheesy by any means, they don't

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    King never gets the credit he deserves

    by Kloipy

    at least by the literary world. I mean he has such a huge fan base(me being one of them) and he's put out so much stuff that is just increadible and yet so many people call him a 'hack' and think of him as unimportant. I'm sure that his legacy will live much longer than most of the flash in the pan writers of this century.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    beleve it or not, every dvd comes with a b&w version

    by ironic_name

    its called your remote control, losers.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    what's funny to me

    by Kloipy

    is how much shit people give Frank and the Mist about the CGI, I mean the guy had no budget for this movie and such a short period of time to make it, and to me it's fucking incredible, and yet movies like I am Legend have huge bugets and the CGI looks so fake and shitty

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    Darabont can do no wrong...the man's one of our own!

    by KillaKane

    Loved the Mist, and once again Darabont proved his expertise in drawing out characters under the contraints of an ensemble piece. He's a no brainer for Wolfman IMO.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST


    by birdy birdman


  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:34 p.m. CST

    I like the first two Harry

    by hallmitchell

    James did a great job on 3:10 to Yuma. I really enjoyed that movie. The screen has seen that much macho cool since Miami Vice. Frank I'm up for as well. Yet would like to see Mark get his job back.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 1:48 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Shakey cam adds layers of horror.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Darabont's the safest bet really...

    by EvilGeek1

    He has a background in horror and his reputation won't repulse people straight off. I'm not even that familiar with his work, but christ I'm glad Ratner's out of the running!

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    Yes, a safe bet but not a fantastic one.

    by LoneGun

    Darabont positively delivers, but I want something more than just a good Wolfman flick. I want something exquisite, something that will make film history. Victor Salva is the man for this movie.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 6:26 p.m. CST


    by FlickChick

    Thomas Jane's acting in the end was on par with the Vader scream. Even the ending wasn't some absurdly tacked-on stunt, you really think they'd go from out of gas to mass suicide THAT quickly?? REALLY?! The lack of a soundtrack also made it BORING. Yeah, it was very TV movie.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Frank is a very cool, just great guy.

    by Proman1984

    Maybe I should check out his movie.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 8:06 p.m. CST

    Quick SUI? SPOILERS!!!

    by RevengeOfJobu

    !SPOILERS! You don't think that they would be running the suicide scenario in their heads while they were driving around for however many hours? Or do you think they were chatting it up the whole ride, with their minds on something else? I'd imagine that would be a pretty awkward drive after that whole situation lol. Do you think the giant fucking monster just walking around freely encouraged them during that drive? Kudos to Frank for having balls. PS I have never seen a reaction to any film moment like miss Carmody (SP?) getting shot, during a non opening weekend geek showing of a film. More kudos.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 8:08 p.m. CST


    by RevengeOfJobu

    And the giant monster reveal in The Mist was way better than the reveal(s) in Cloverfield.

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST

    FlickChick, yes i do think they would...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ... based on what was happening in the movie - what they were all witnessing - gruesome killings by giant bugs - mob violence - murder - no hope - his wifes corpse hanging in a web in the unfixed hole in their house - miles and miles of web covered despair - yes - i do think the characters might see suicide as an option - id rather shoot myself in the head than be eaten alive slowly by dog sized spiders - the movie and the ending worked for me

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 11:24 p.m. CST

    i liked vaders "noooooo" scream too

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    and i like ewoks

  • Feb. 2, 2008, 11:28 p.m. CST

    RevengeOfJobu, i agree...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    im a little ashamed to admit it, but i said aloud "about fuckin time" when ollie shot that psycho - people were clapping - she was as dangerous as the shit outside the store

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 12:13 a.m. CST

    daranbont interns seriously

    by birdy birdman

    stop shitting up this talkback, whatever measly shit theyre giving you, 3 cents a post or whatever...go back to the FUCKIN mailroom, this ain't fuckin Gawker or Defamer, that shit dont play here, fuck off...seriously why is ery other post DARANBONT IS THE GUY FOR THIS...DOES he have that many fans? LIMITED BUDGET LIMITED BUDGET! transparent little industry dickwads we seeeeeee youuuuuuu

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 12:36 a.m. CST

    birdy birdman, you sound very angry...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    it bothers you a great deal that darabont has fans - or at least people that like the movies hes made so far - get over it - and yourself - read your last post, its embarrassing - youre the one "shitting up this talkback" (your words) - back on track, who do you think should direct "wolf man" and why

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST

    birdy birdman, Mick Garris is directing...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    "from a buick 8" - due out in 2009 - im looking forward to that one - it will either be very cool or god awful - great book though

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 12:49 a.m. CST

    correction, Garris is producer...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    Tobe Hooper is directing

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST

    THE MIST failed and it's everybody's fault

    by GimpInMyPants

    The action sequences are cool. When the monsters attack THE MIST is good. When they're not all we can see is the actors' awful acting, especially Thomas Jane's. The ending should have been heart wrenching, but Darabont's decision to cut away during the mercy kills was a big mistake. Also, was Jane's awful acting supposed to kill the audience too? Because his inability to produce a single genuine emotion is what ruined the ending. His giant sob screams were too funny to be heartbreaking, and having the military pass by should've been a bigger reveal, a bigger camera shot. That was another of Darabont's mistakes. This black and white version he's planning, if all it is is the movie in black and white then people will just be paying double for the DVD when they can just just change the color setting on their televisions.

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 8:28 a.m. CST

    Stephen King Is...

    by ZombWii

    The Michael Bay of the written word. Ten percent seriously cool shit mixed in with ninety percent annoyingly half-baked dialogue, lame characterizations, empty metaphysical moments, 2 cups of cliche, and of course some overly sadomasochistic torture and blood-letting. It's certainly not all bad, but only about 1 in 3 books is worth reading. I think I liked "Everything's Eventual" best...let's face it, most of his ideas aren't good enough to hold up for 400 pages. As for movies...wasn't it The Onion or someone who did an article discussing the worst movies that everyone (for some reason) seems to love? I think Shawshank topped the list, melodramatic clap-trap that lets you root for the prisoners and "stick it to the man." And The Green Mile, oh please..that turd goes on and on and's To Kill A Mockingbird with a slapdash of King's metaphysical/Neo-Christian tomfoolery but obviously lacking Mockingbird's authenticity. Take away Tom Hanks, and half the people who love the movie wouldn't give it a second thought. (the Hanks factor) Darabont's output is workman like. He's average. If you've got a decent script and $25-40 million to drop on a one-off project, then Darabont is a pretty good choice. If you want a chance at greatness, a possible franchise or maybe even a few awards...then you need a craftsman. Darabont is good for Creature From The Black Lagoon. (PS I thought 1408 was quite good as a movie, but even it borrows liberally from The Shining.)

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST


    by Kloipy

    the Michael bay of written word? Are you kidding? Lame characterizations? Stephen King is one of the greatest character writers of our time. Roland and the Dark Tower, the Stand, It, even in his short stories he writes beautiful characters. As for Shawshank you couldn't be more wrong. It's not about 'stick it to the man'. Andy is innocent of murder and wants nothing more than to be free. Red knows what he did wrong, but he's an old man who has lost any hope of living. Yes there are a lot of horrible people out in the world who deserve to spend their lives in jail. However there are some who deserve a second chance and can learn from their mistakes and become good people. Isn't that the whole point of the rehabilitation process. And, esp in that time period, there were a lot of corrupt prisons and the thing about Andy is that he never loses hope no matter what happens to him and he makes it out. It's a story about hope, friendship, and the beauty of the human spirit. AS for Green Mile, how is it like To Kill a Mockingbird? Please explain. Yes there is a black man in it convicted of something he didn't do but that all the similarities. I don't remember when Paul fell out of the old oak tree and got rescued by Boo Radley do you? The Green Mile is a beautiful movie that is a Christ allegory. It's also a movie that shows how each of us pay for our sins in our own way and how we have to live with our actions that will haunt us our whole lives. I'm sorry but you are either too cynical to appreciate beauty or you can't appreciate good film. I'd like your example of a movie that captures these themes that you think is better and not just as you put it "a melodramatic clap-trap"

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 11:30 a.m. CST


    by ZombWii

    So Tom Hank's character isn't Atticus Finch/Scout (the morally centered/nostalgic narrator) rolled into one? Coffey isn't Boo Radley and Tom Robinson (Black, innocent, uneducated, means well, man-child who ends up dying anyways) rolled into one? The frame work is there, King just added crap like Mr. Jingles. As for an example of something I think does a better job of covering the whole living with our sins material...How about any episode of My Name Is Earl. It even has a man-child, Randy and Christ figure in Darnell. Or, 21 Grams?

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    I think you are reading too much into it

    by Kloipy

    It's a completely different story. If you want you can read all that into almost any movie. Luke skywalker is Atticus Finch, Darth Vadar is Tom Robinson because it turns out he was good all along, people just misunderstand him! The part where luke gets his hand cut off it's like the part when Jem fell out of the tree and broke her arm. See it's easy

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    I think you are more guilty than I.

    by ZombWii

    Kloipy, Darabont called...he wants his Rock Bottom Remainders t-shirts back.

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 2:45 p.m. CST

    it's in the dryer right now Zomb

    by Kloipy

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    Who knows Tom

    by Kloipy

    I'm getting my research paper ready

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    The Mist was great

    by Desk of Steel

    that is all.........

  • Feb. 3, 2008, 6:38 p.m. CST

    Fuck Wolfman.

    by Ravetin

    It sounds turdish no matter how you spin it. Frank Darabont needs to do a LotR-style adaptation of The Stand.

  • Feb. 4, 2008, 12:53 p.m. CST

    salems lot (1979)

    by mattb68

    that's still pretty scary. even though it's a 70's TV movie, back in the day it was pretty strong for the time. when that kid is tapping at the window at the other kid to open it...yikes !! I still get chills.

  • Feb. 4, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST

    terrible, terrible news....

    by ZackBraff08

    i farted

  • Feb. 4, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    That is...

    by Archive

    ...ridiculously awesome. God, I hope they took the time to redo the contrast and such in the color correction - it sounds like they did...

  • Feb. 4, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    Jeff DeMunn's performance

    by Archive

    in this film, by the way, is perhaps the most awesome thing for a horror dork in the last ten years. "They took him! The Mist took him!"

  • Feb. 11, 2008, 4:13 a.m. CST

    These are not the incredibly interesting types

    by chien_sale

    I would LOVE Darabond, Landis and Marshall to do this. That said this progect needed an off the wall choice. That's why the original director was perfect for this. these guys have most of them played with genre before so i'm afraid they would go the clichés root. my first choice would be the french director that did the Monnica Belucci rape film. A genius that can outcreep even David Lynch himself.