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Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I just had my first day of festival-ing in Santa Barbara and came back to the computer to see a few big geek tidbits had hit the trades.
Both could be bad news.
Hopefully this one won't be bad news, but at this point in time I just can not get excited about a remake of A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET. After the balls-up that was HALLOWEEN and the kind of okay CHAINSAW remake I'm a little nervous about this one.
I grew up addicted to '80s horror. There is a divide in my generation; two types of children. You were either a Freddy kid or a Jason kid. I was both, but I leaned toward Freddy. I was a little fat Freddy Krueger 3 years in a row... wishing my lame Freddy glove knives wouldn't bend and look cooler.
I'm not too pissed off at a Friday the 13th remake going on... I'm not happy about it, but Friday the 13th was always about the exploitation... the good kills, the young naked girls, the dark humor. NIGHTMARE was about atmosphere. The sequels have tainted the original, but go back and rewatch A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET. Turn out the lights, turn up the sound and I guarantee you'll get creeped out again.
That movie is fucking scary.
New Line is making a deal with Platinum Dunes (the folks behind THE HITCHER, TEXAS CHAINSAW and the in-development FRIDAY THE 13TH remake) to remake A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET. No writer is attached (and there won't be until after the strike) and no director is attached.
I will have a zero-tolerance for modern horror gimmicks (what Vern would call "avid farts") or cheap scares with this one. I don't care how shitty FREDDY'S DEAD was, if you're going to remake this movie you're playing with one of the best examples of horror in the last 30 years.
Much like with the FRIDAY remake, I don't understand why it's so hard to make a sequel or a relaunch that takes place within this established universe. Maybe that's the idea with the remake, I don't know, but I'm not really happy about this.
Are they going to recast Freddy? I can't imagine a Freddy without Robert Englund (although my buddy Kraken has been telling me for a year that whenever they decide to remake NIGHTMARE they should cast Ben Foster as Freddy and he's surprisingly fitting when you look at him with that in mind), so hopefully they don't do something as stupid as making a Freddy movie without Freddy Krueger.
And hopefully they don't treat the teenagers like retarded CLUELESS rejects (hello HALLOWEEN remake). And who can they get to be as badass as John Saxon?
I don't know. The original was so inventive, the remake is going to have to be just as inventive, but not a copy. It'll take a really interesting screenwriter and director for me to shake this bad feeling. You?
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To say this idea sucks.
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Victory is mine
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One of the reasons why I love 80s horror movies is because of the practical effects (much more believable than CGI crap). It needs to be gory and frightening.
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They could do a prequel about Freddy as a child murderer, and perhaps infuse something into the plot regarding the beginnings of how he starts entering people's dreams. But a flat-out remake would be pure bullshit, but that goes without saying.
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I mean, seriously.
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I have been awake for 91.7 hours trying to catch a first and I am upstaged by my lack of a comma in this sentence and uss cygnus. Ohh well, I will soldier on...
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the eighties were so divisive that could only be a Freddy Kid, Jason Kid, or like them both. Shit, it must of been hell; brother against brother and shit.
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Enough with this silly shit already. Christ.
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Jan 30, 2008 12:52:30 AM CST
John Carpenter is great for his remake of the Thing. Everything
by maceox
My subject line says it all. Self refrential is weird. Weird I say.
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John Carpenter is great for The Thing Remake; everything else he did is laughafable(sp) .
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try not to snore..
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remakes suck big dicks..
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The first TCM remake was decent, its sequel sucked, and the Halloween remake was an all out disaster. I agree that a remake of Friday the 13th can't be screwed up too badly (because none in the series are great films), but Nightmare is a different story. That said, Ben Foster is an interesting choice.
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would make a decent freddy i think..just don't put him in another western..geez those were some tight pants...and not in a good way
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Freddy was always creepy but rarely horrifying or excessively violent. I would like to see a Chainsaw-esq remake of Elm Street. Nice and bloody, please.
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The low budget feel of the original made it more creepy.
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Because they posted this story around noon. Good job, slick.
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they'll ruin it.
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Expected to see an onslaught already. The juvenile humor on this site has really gone downhill as of late. *wink*
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one of the great horror movies from the 80's would pass this rape and take-a-thon Platinum Dunes has going on.. it's kinda fucking sad... There is so much horror out there now, in print, ready to be adapted to the big screen.. This stuff is just lazy filmmaking...
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Said it in another talkback and I'll say it again. This would be the ultimate stunt casting. But it'll probably never happen unless Depp want to just do it for kicks.
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If any movie screamed out for a remake, it's this one. Just saw the re-release last Halloween and it did not stand up to time. The dialogue is god awful. The scares are telegraphed. The school room scene where Nancy is falling asleep is a complete failure. Only when Tina shows up does that scene work on any level. The end when she becomes Rambo is horrible. The only things that work are Tina's death/dream sequence, and Depp's death. The mother's scenes are full of unintended comedy. All of the parents come across as though they were written by teenagers. The mixing of Dream and Reality works really well but the writing is horrific. If only Craven could let somebody write the damn thing, and he just direct, it would work out just fine. I never understood a director's desire to write his own material. You are a director, not a writer. Know your role. :) P.S. Halloween held up to father time. The audience was gasping throughout the film and laughed at appropriate times. It was the complete opposite experience for Nightmare.
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Jan 30, 2008 1:10:12 AM CST
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
In the name of all that is unholy, leave my Freddy the fuck alone. WTF does Craven think of this shit, he personally had to reinvent the franchise twice. New Nightmare is the perfect ending to a character when the previous movie was so shitty that it had both Rosanne AND Tom Arnold. Then again maybe Craven will have to come along in three years and do it again.
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Jan 30, 2008 1:13:33 AM CST
If they make this pg-13 they can just stop making movies.
by spifftacular squirrel girl
Otherwise I'm really not that turned off by a remake. People keep saying that it'll ruin the original but haven't some really bad sequels already dilluted it?
I kind of like the idea of seeing a movie with Freddy where he's scary instead of the current movies where he kills someone in some outlandish way and gives a cheesy one-liner while winking at the audience.
I just hope that they hire a really good writer/director and I like the idea of Ben Foster in the role.
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Jan 30, 2008 1:13:47 AM CST
If it is a Japanese director or similar in tone then I'm in.
by regicidal_maniac
It needs to be like Gore Verbinski's The Ring or Takashi Shimizu's original Juon films. Actually I would like to suggest Kiyoshi Kurosawa. It needs to be approached with utmost seriousness like The Thing/Fly remakes. In that light, I guess David Cronenberg would be good. Whoever they choose the script need s to be tight and completely devoid of lousy campy humor. Freddy should be a silent force of fear. Like Kayako Saeki, Samara/Sadako. Actually I'd like to see horror manga superstar Junji Ito take a crack at some concept work for this. That'd be INSANE. It might actually drive people crazy.
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That's the best idea ever!
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...Terry O'Quinn anyone?
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I loved Freddy when I was a kid. I loved almost all of the sequels, as bad as they got, I was there for each one. I hadn't seen it in a long time before last year (or the year before) and I was flabbergasted at how awful it played in the theater. It almost prevented me from seeing the re-release of the original Halloween in the theaters but thankfully I went. Here's to a quality remake.
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You should all know this.
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they should have just left it at New Nightmare, that was decent. i dont understand these remakes... surely the 70s/80s grain on these films adds to the effect?
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It'll be horrible. But at least we'll see it coming.
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STOP THAT! Why O Why o do they have to do this. I agree with Quint that the first time I saw this flick I was terrified for weeks. Weeeks!!! I watched it at a sleepover in the fifth grade. My mom was so fucking pissed when she found out. It's almost like getting drunk for the first time and puking your brains out and being utterly miserable, with you mom standing over you saying, "See i told you not to do that". that is how i felt aftert this movie. It is a classic. It needs NOT to be re-fucking-made. Lame. makes me mad. and dismal about the state of affairs in Hollywood that they have to resort to remaking a film that defined a generation of cheesy horror films. A reamke of friday the 13th is blasphemy.....this is pissing on Christ while stile bleeding from the cross.
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Seriously ... PD's TCM remake was passable at best & :THE BEGINNING flat-out sucked, THE HITCHER was well-nigh unwatchable (but I soldiered on anyway, despite Sean Bullet's magic beans ... shit, reverse bullets & beans), I'm not particularly enthused about a FT13 remake/reboot/cash-whoring or the NEAR DARK remake that they mntioned in the Variety piece, but this news has me genuinely worried that I will be forced to watch this in addition to those, if only to hate on it.
SHIT GODDAMN, would someone please get the writers back before they remake NIGHT OF THE CREEPS or some shit, or better yet, start writing yourself and for the love of all the deities EVER, please, please PLEASE have an original idea. -
.....when are these fucking directors these days gonna get that "digitally enhanced" does not ....NOT = better. If they remke this movie it better be old school style. The same way Spielberg wants to make Indy. It should be as it was....that is what makes it great. Not I repeat not.....how much better you can make it.
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I loved this film as a kid and consider it to be a milestone in horror films.
HOWEVER, if you have been coasting on the memories of this film and haven't actually seen the whole thing in a while, check it out again. Maybe 1-2 years ago, I watched it for the first time since about 1990, and I was amazed at how poorly-made and poorly-scripted the original was. ELM STREET one of those films where the idea is much better than the execution.
Now that doesn't mean I want a remake of ELM STREET - I don't, and I'd rather see something original. But let's not delude ourselves into thinking that the original ELM STREET is a flawless film classic. -
Jan 30, 2008 1:43:53 AM CST
and to the idiots who say it doesn't play as well now
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
not many horror movies are as terrifying 25 years later. The originals limitations lie more with Cravens vision compared to his budget. Halloween(suspense/thriller) is completely different and holds up better due to a smaller scope that matched its budget.
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HOWEVER (and I am not sure why this part got cut out of my other post), if you have been coasting on the memories of this film and haven't actually seen the whole thing in a while, check it out again. Maybe 1-2 years ago, I watched it for the first time since about 1990, and I was amazed at how poorly-made and poorly-scripted the original was. ELM STREET one of those films where the idea is much better than the execution.
Now that doesn't mean I want a remake of ELM STREET - I don't, and I'd rather see something original. But let's not delude ourselves into thinking that the original ELM STREET is a flawless film classic. -
to make a quick buck. This will be a PG-13 shitshack that leacs to no where. The first 30 minutes of Halloween was cool, if it wasn't a set up to a crappy Mike Myers rape.
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This film doesn't need a remake any more than HALLOWEEN did and we all know how that one turned out. I can't believe I'm saying this but I'd rather have another straight up sequel than a "re-imagining" of the original.
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DAMN YOU MICHAEL BAY
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= no Nightmare . . . period.
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Seriously. Just fucking stop already. I don't care if it's greed wanting to get people to relive their childhood so they can squeeze some bucks out of them or something as noble sounding as wanting to introduce icons to a new generation: please, just stop fucking around. I don't mind sequels - or even some prequels - just cut out the "re-imagination" crap. This is what happens when you give fanboys some money and a long enough leash.
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Fuck new line if they do this. Without Robert Englund it's not Freddy. He made that character. It's not like Myers and Jason who wear a mask and romp around like tards. Englund is Freddy.
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...until I'd established myself as a bona-fide Hollywood screenwriter. As much as I love the original, I have to admit it's more for sentimental reasons than it is for good filmmaking. I would KILL to write the new script because to me, Nancy should have never been the main character-- it should have been her mother. The whole conspiracy subplot that was brought up in the basement scene should've been much more prominent. To me, this always should have been a film about the parents and how they have no choice but to watch helplessly as their children are butchered in the one place they cannot protect them. Anybody with me? (Probably not) So Quint or any of yous guys: Any way you can get me a meeting? I promise not to fuck this movie up.
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I COMPLETELY disagree with Depp being a good idea for Freddy . . . he's too nice, he's too cool, and he's far FAR too good looking for Freddy Krueger. Just because there's a connection does NOT mean it's a good idea . . . that's how these things get made in the first place!!You want a good Freddy for this already-failed experiment? try Crispin Glover or Brad Dourif.
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That's the only way this will stop
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give me an elm street prequel. scary, child killing, make you feel dirty for watching, sick twisted, pre-dreamstalker freddy. robert englund in the role, and maybe ben foster as the young freddy... i like that idea because its a backstory. in no way does he need to be the older and burned guy. that being said, the movie does not need to be remade. it is not perfect, but it is perfect for what it is, a slice of 80's fried gold. dont fucking touch it or freddy will murder you fuckers in your sleep. i have watched this flick with people who have never seen it before and it still scared the bejezus out of a new viewer. no need to remake it. please, for the love of all things sacred, dont remake this movie!
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Jan 30, 2008 2:12:32 AM CST
I was a "Jason Kid" but the 1st Elm Street is one of the greates
by sonnyfern
That movie is an amazing peice of work and when it came out it was almost mythic in it's popularity. Why remake it when they can just make another sequel with a new group of kids? What's the point? Same thing with Jason, why do a remake when you can do another outright sequel?
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Jan 30, 2008 2:13:14 AM CST
If Robert Englund doesn't play the part of Freddy...
by john nadas glasses
I will not see the film. New Line, listen good. We want Robert Englund to continue in the role of Freddy. Don't fuck this up!
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How fucking amazing would that be? It'll never happen, not even in some fantastic bizarro world, but still -- A Nightmare on Elm Street: Fire Walk With Me. Wow. I just rewatched the original Nightmare and it holds up, and it holds up more than Friday the 13th. It's not Craven's best but it still worked for me.
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And fuck this movie!
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http://uk.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0436992/2DRWagC05.jpg.html?path=pgallery&path_key=Eccleston%2C%20Christopher&seq=14
BTW The original has dated, but is still scary as shit. Don't have a problem with a remake, as long as it focuses on atmos-fear and isn't an all out, over edited gore fest. At least the CG version of the mother being pulled through the door will be better than the laughable maniquin they used in the original.. -
Remake it all you want, fuckers.
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I'd rather see a prequel, as I think there is potential for a great story there. As for the original Nightmare, its perfect as it is, despite the obviousness of being set in the 80's, with the clothing and hair styles, music, etc. On a seperate note, I was a little kid when I first saw this movie, at the earliest stage of puberty, and I developed a huge crush on the actress who played the Tina character. Whoever they get to play Tina will probably be incredibly hot compared to the original actress, but it still won't have the same effect for me.
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I say bring me the HEAD OF MICHAEL BAY.
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I'm okay with it. Freddie is cool. I heard that Jason is gonna be on Supernatural. It would be wicked to get Freddie on that show.
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dude, great fuckin' call on ben foster. he would be great. i definitely think the series needed a rebirth, the character is too iconic to never return. and i know englund could technically play him beneath a shitload of makeup, i think it's time to go in another direction. michael myers and jason voorhees didn't have the same charisma as Freddy Krueger and consequently they could be played by anyone. I know it'd be hard to replicate Englund's frightening charm but Ben Foster is a hell of a good place to start.
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But BEN FOSTER as Freddy?!?!?!?
THATS FUCKING INSPIRED!
I can see it working as long as they make it scary as fuck, like the original. No camp, no bullshit, Freddy back to basics.. I mean I love the dark humor injected into the sequels.. but I want a Freddy that will fucking creep me out again. Keep the tone very dark... he's supposed to be this fucking spectre who enters your dreams, fucks you up and takes your soul.. how can you NOT make a serious villain out of that..*SNIKT* bitches! -
what will it be rated?
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This is the only horror movie I never want remade. The first one is the greatest slasher of all time. They can do sequels for all I care, but not a remake. They WILL screw it up.
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They need Colm Feore.
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If they want to go with a handsome and chiseled Freddy.
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Good actor but another example of the midgets that populate LA.
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That guy is scary.
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Carpenter talentess? All your ggek cards are revoked. this is the man that gave us Halloween, Dark Star, The Thing, Assault on Precinct 13, They Live, Big Trouble in Litte China, The Fog, and Escape From New York. Hell I can even find some love for Starman, Prince of Darkness, In The Mouth of Madness, and Memoirs of an Invisible Man (despite Chevy Chase). I will give you that Ghosts of Mars and Escape from LA are shit- but look at the fucking strike rate. What the fuck is wrong with you? And the original Nightmare is not remake material. It's one of Horror's sacred cows- what's fucking next? The Exorcist (Mind you, seeing as Haloween, TCM and now this have been done, I wouldn't be surprised). For the umpteenth time, Quint, the original Friday the 13th was not a camp exercise like the rest of them. It's repeatedly spouting shit like this that causes people to forget the original and makes this shitty remake acceptable. And you say you'll be happy if it has a campy tone and is full of exploitation. So will I. If they call it Friday 13th part 11 (or whatever). But if they remake the original and do it like this then it's wrong, badly wrong.I agree with the dude that said carpet bomb PLatinum Dunes. Good fucking idea
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Geek cards is what I meant. I'm so incensed by this that I've lost the ability to type. Very shitty news indeed.
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976-EVIL was pretty neat, besides who knows Freddy more than this guy? Of course there is always the other option: DON'T DO IT! But that's crazy talk.
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Or Stephen Geoffreys (Evil Ed/Hoax).
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...I miss that class actor. He was truly a talent. Nothing to say on Freddie other than that it is a sad day when producers can't produce something original...remakes should only be done if the original had a good premise, but was executed badly...which wasn't the case with the original Nightmare...so my response....Nooo! (P.S. Hope my English grammar was okay in this post hehe)
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but 5'3 is pretty funny looking for a guy.
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Please no more. Platinum Dunes' film output is like watching a pet die. Painful and forgettable for all the wrong reasons. Bay is a hell of an action director, but only Nispel has had a shred of talent among the hacks Bay has hired to remake 70's and 80's horror classics. Bay has gone certifiably overboard with this one. The Nightmare will be watching the film in it's entirety. I wonder how much Craven will be payed to put his name to this thing. After what they did to Hodder I wouldn't bet on Englund being in this one.
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...but Frank Darabont would be a good choice for writer or director. Didn't he write Dream Warriors? That one was tits!
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I knew NIGHTMARE had to be next on the chopping block, but I was naive enough to believe those Platinum Dunes fuckers wouldn't be the ones holding the ax. Okay, some of you like the TEXAS CHAIN SAW remake, as dumb and completely missing the point as I think it is. Fair enough. Let's give them that one. But nobody likes any other movie they've ever made. Do you? Anybody? I haven't heard of anybody yet. They also have not shown any evidence that they even understand any of the movies they buy the rights to, if they've even seen them. I will never forget Michael Bay's press release about how CHAIN SAW would not be gory like the original. And who knows, maybe it won't be as awful as it sounds, but I can't fucking believe they're doing a remake of THE BIRDS where they EXPLAIN WHY THE BIRDS ARE ATTACKING (it's because of the environment)! That is a pretty profound case of NOT FUCKING GETTING IT if I ever saw one.
I disagree with some of the posts on here, I think the first NIGHTMARE does hold up. Sure, it is crude in some ways, like most low budget horror movies. But I think that original Freddy is scary as hell and nobody has really matched the surreal/visceral combo of scenes like Tina's bloody body being dragged all over the ceiling, Freddy's (fake looking) arms stretching across the alley, a random goat in the school hallway, mom getting pulled through the window in the door at the end.
To be honest, I actually can imagine how someone COULD do a good (unnecessary) remake. It would have to be a serious artist who is a little fucked in the head and interested in dreams. They would have to have a very strong sense for visuals and atmosphere. They would have to delve deeper into the "sins of the fathers" theme of the kids suffering for their parents' dirty secret. They would probaly not be someone who Platinum Dunes would hire.
On the positive side, the Platinum Dunes track record suggests that they would make it dark and serious and not jokey like the Elm Street sequels. They never heard of fun horror movies before, which is fine in this case. Unfortunately I think it's fair to assume they won't for the first time ever hire a good director and a smart writer, especially if Michael Bay has any say in the matter.
I think New Line is making a huge mistake even if you ignore art and look at it from a cold-blooded business man perspective. Platinum Dunes make money, but not in the "franchise" way the Freddy movies used to. They know how to make a lower budget movie that has a big opening weekend because they purchased the rights to a famous title. Then the movie sucks and that's the end of it. You don't see them talking any more Chain Saw sequels. Or Hitcher, or Amityville. They're hit and run artists. If they make a new Freddy that stops New Line from making the FREDDY VS. JASON sequel they've been trying to make, and then since nobody will like the new Freddy they won't be able to make sequels to that either. That's not a good way to show respect to the character that built your fucking studio.
I'm sure the photography will look real pretty, but aren't there more respectable ways to give work to talented cinematographers? Like, give the remake rights to ANY FUCKING BODY BESIDES PLATINUM DUNES and let them hire those same cinematographers?
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....the only way this remake HELL will stop is if people stop paying to see them, and unfotunately even if all the geeks in the world united a boycotted there would still be enough chav's and hick's who would buy it!
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It's getting rediculous now! They'll soon be shooting a remake back to back with the original!
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Otherwise, what's the point? Freddy's look, powers, etc. And don't cast a Robert Englund lite. That's a fanboy talking. Ben Foster is shit and sure as hell isn't scary. I don't care how much makeup you put on him. What is he, like 5'8"?
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Just give us Chucky vs. Leprechaun and everyone will be happy.
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Of course Freddy won't be played by Robert Englund, they will recast him with some shitty actor.
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Can nobody with balls step in and stop all these shite remakes getting churned out?
After Halloween someone needs to do something.
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...I've always thought, out of all the 80's flicks, Nightmare would make for a great remake. Johnny Depp for Krueger would be a great choice. I'd dream of seeing Peter Sotos, Larry Clark and/or Chris Cunningham being on board. They'll get a boring ass hack though and an uninspired special effects laden shit fest instead. It is platinum dunes after all.
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Jack Sparrow? Sweeney Todd? Edward Scissorhands?
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He'll dice up those kids with paper cuts.
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You're spot on about everything. Platinum Dunes is an abomination to filmmaking. I can't stand any of the films this company has produced, and guys like Bay can care less if these films are any good. They want a quick buck and that's it. I realize that most of the sequels are shit, but who cares? Why should the original have to suffer? And yes, the first DOES hold up well. It's a fantastic horror film with tons of scares and great ideas. Fuck this shit! They better at least hire Robert Englund, which I'm sure they won't.
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See I know you're joking. But I'll bet you that in the next few years we see an Exorcist remake that delves into the background of Satan, and discovers that he was actually viciously corn-holed by a moonshine addicted god in a mid-west trailer. and that's why he's pissed.
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We are not , in any stretch of the imagination, Platinum Dunes target market. to begin with- we all know the originals, and generally revere them (despite some of the dickheads above calling carpenter a hack), secondly we understand horror too much, thirdly, we have standards. There target market is purely thrash metal ritalin addicted teens who won't be watching the movie anyway. Rather they'll be taking up 1 seat with 2 people as they attempt to merge via the face for 2 hours in a crowded room. That's why they all come out thinking they are good. IT's because they haven't fucking watched the dog shit on the screen.
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You're right, The Birds remake is probably going to suck. I know the script sure did. But there's something about Freddy and his past as a child molester that is ripe for remaking. Platinum Dunes doesn't have a great track record, true, but they're no worse than Ghost House or After Dark and they do have an eye for talent as evidenced by their purchase of Kyle Ward's Fiasco Heights. They need to disassociate the project from anyone who ever worked on Freddy vs. Jason and start anew with fresh minds who can bring Freddy into the 21st century. The dreamworld has endless possibilities and there's still so many places the character can go. We just need a different take on the character, a reinvention of one of cinema's iconic boogeymen. The more I think about it, the more perfect I think Ben Foster would be.
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and George Lucas directs. "Meesa gonna kill you slow!"
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Spielberg will make the call, just watch!
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Hollywood is dead. As soon as the big corporations took over the studios that was the end. Can't somebody torch Platinum Dunes production office?
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There is no wry remark that can even follow that up.
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I loved Jason X and FvJ (c'mon, they were the most enjoyably stupid films of the year), and was really looking forward to at least a few more daft sequels (particularly in the Jason camp) as those films did pretty well... I'm just not as excited about a franchise relaunch :(
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nothing more than everything that's been said here already to add beyond that single point...
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if this isn't going to suck balls. The director needs to watch a lot of Bunuel and other surrealists and take note. Illogic is actually pretty fucking scary, explanation is not. I think you're spot on about The Birds. Without an explanation it's creepy but with one it's just dumb. The very end of The Shining is scary because it also doesn't make sense. I'll give one final example: the "holy water" that wasn't holy water in The Exorcist. No explanation. That's just weird and freaky.
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to show my angst but everyone above has already done it for me. Just leave it alone. I wasn't even that crazy on Nightmare. Don't get me wrong. It's a great horror movie. It just didn't speak to me like everyone else. But I hold enough respect for it not to want it be creatively raped yet again.
This machine we call Hollywood is now slow and grinding. The gears are rusty and worn down. More times than not they're coming out with movies that just aren't reaching the bar adn I've seen too many bombs to think it's our cynicism or lack of objectivity.
George Lucas said a few years ago that the future is in independent cinema and I fucking believe him. Hopefully a reckoning will come for these multi-million dollar grave robbers and some actual ORIGINAL and CREATIVE movies will come to be....Not gonna happen though. -
In a bold attempt to appeal to the "YouTube" generation (read: lamest generation), this new remake will be told from the p.o.v. of the victims who take their indestructible, transdimensional videocameras in order to "document" the whole thing. Its going to be so gritty and real that even you will believe that someone can videotape their dreams with a camera that never runs out of batteries and can't be destroyed. Along the way we'll get to meet some rich kid fashion models who pretend to be real people acting out some kind of cross between Felicity and whatever is the latest MTV "reality" show. It will be "scary" because the hype machine and viral campaign will brain washing you into thinking it is.
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Escape from New York? How could you not love that? And a lovely holiday film comes to mind. Maybe you heard of it. It was called Halloween. Oh well, to each their own, but you are soooo in the minority.
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I wasn't even old enough to see this in the theaters. I had to wait until it came out on VHS. At the time only one neighbor on the block had a VCR and they were like $800 a piece. The only Robert Englund I knew was Willie from V. Damn, I'm old. To quote Forrest Whittaker this "licks the sweat off a dead man's balls."
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I've never thought that Nightmare was a particularly scary film. It was interesting and fun, but not scary in the least. A remake will suck. It will be hallow and bland like the majority of recent Hollywood remakes.
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add speed fricassee to that as well. I couldn't believe my fucking eyes when I saw those posts. Those two are well in need of being on the receiving end of some Gun Kata
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I really enjoyed the 1st half of his career.
Assault on Precint 13th
Escape from New York
Starman
Halloween
Big Trouble In Little China
and one of my favorite movies of all time The Thing.
to a lesser extent I liked Christine. I never saw the Fog
As far as anything after 86...umm In The Mouth Of Maddness I thought was alright (I need to see it again.I only saw it once) and They Live is a guilty pleasure for the that great fight scene alone...but for the most part the 2nd part of his career is just not anywhere on the same level as the 1st half. -
Freddy was never scary...ever
He is a child killer/molester...and what did they do?give him 1 liners...pfff
If this is being remade ' for gods sake ditch Englund...he is too old and not a good actor...
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I love you!
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Yes, but where do you draw the line. He isn't prolific anymore, and the films since Prince of Darkness are nowhere near as good as those before, but still- look at the great films to turkeys ration. I'd rather watch any Carpenter release than a Platinum Dunes fuck up.
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of course. But look at it, he went from a film a year and slowed right down
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Jan 30, 2008 7:05:10 AM CST
They should make a "Michael and Jason go to Grindhouse" movie...
by travis-dane
with Myers and Vorhees as buddys who do the Riggs&Murtaugh routine!Myers is the wisecracking "suicadal" killing machine and Vorhees goes for the "I am to old for this shit" machete killings.And Danny Trejo has a cameo as Chucky!
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If its gonna be a shitty remake. Might as well go all out.
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...I am asking you seriously to stop remaking films. Especially films that are not event thirty years old, are very well made, and really do not need to be remade at all. For those talkbackers who mentioned prequel ideas- much better, however the Freddy character may lose his mystique a la Hannibal Lector if not done right.
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this is such bullshit. Take a series that people love and give it to someone who doesn't understand it and just is in it to make a quick buck off of the name. I'm so fucking tired of this shit
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Jan 30, 2008 7:24:18 AM CST
The film is about moral/community panic and repressed teens...
by tourist
...Which is why I think the Sotos, Gus Van Sant, Larry Clark angle would be a way to go. Something like Capturing The Friedmans meets Bully meets weird Cunninghamesque horror. This wont ever, ever happen, just like the perfect casting of Depp. It will just be extended CGI heavy dream sequances with some long haired jap girls and loud noises and retard pretty teens.
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No one is saying every Wes Craven or John Carpenter movie is great. But Freddy is an icon as is Snake Plisken (even though I probably spelled Plisken wrong) Maceox and speed fricassee don't deserve the honor of seeing the gun-kata.
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... somebody said "here's to a quality remake." That's the fucking funniest thing I've ever read.
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with full jizz scenes
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Hollywood wins. It seems they'll remake anything. Their defense..."But we have a new, unique take on the original material that will not alienate fans of the original, all the while winning a new generation of fans." Well, I don't support remakes. From the numbers of The Hitcher, Halloween, When a Stranger Calls, it seems very few of these "new fans" do either. And I know NO self-respecting horror fan that loves remakes. But, do what you must. You won't get MY dollars.
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and make it not suck?
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it could work if they do a real horror movie that actualy scares...
and not one of this "cool" and action packed horror movies that claimed to be frightening (like The Hills Have Eyes remake)
Or...make it an almost heroic fantasy movie like the Dream Warriors with great scale, but if so, forget about trying to scare us. It's one way or another, Just don't do another movie with the ass sitting between two chairs like we say in france! -
They should just leave Craven's horror classic alone. No really, they should.
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and when I put my token in the fare box, I saw through the window that the operator had a red and green sweater and a black hat and these knives for fingers.
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Opens with a shot of Freddy tied down to a table as the towns people take turns slice up bits of his skin a la hostel. Then they set him on fire and we watch him burn away to nothing but as the fire dies down, in the midst of the crackling we here freddy cackling. Fade to title which flies at the screen splats and leaves a blood trail. We open on a pair of tits bouncing up and down during coitus (in the background Soulja Boy is playing), the two teens finish up and fall back on the bed. First dream sequence happens-girl walks into the woods and sees a baby deer, the deer (which I forgot to add is CGI turns and talk to her in freddy's voice and says "It's fawn of the dead" and then pulls out a gun and shoots her and then puts on a cap and says "It's huntin' season, bitch". Soon we learn that freddy is able to come into the real world at any time and decides to drop the whole "dream-kill" thing because it's much easier to just stab someone. So he stabs a couple of kids, then the kids figure out how to destroy him with Nyquil and then it ends.
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wooo wooo
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Midnight "Finger" Train......brown finger.....Freddy.....did he Re-cum on you?
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IS IT SO MUCH TO ASK?!>?!!?!?!?!
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...but I probably wouldn't. I'd probably go and see it opening weekend. I love horror, and there is too little of it at out there. Good horror, at least. I can't help myself.
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Does anyone know what Jeffrey Dahmer's father did? No. When the kids go bad, the legacy's reputation goes downhill, or disappears completely.
So can we please stop with the bad remakes. There are quality legacies at stake.
I know all the new, young talent wants to pay tribute to the films they grew up with; I am equally aware how few new ideas are kicking around and that the studios are looking for the "safe bet".
Nothing against the people who make these films, many are quite talented. Mr. Nispel is a fine director. But quite frankly, the original "Texas Chainsaw" was creepy as hell and still gives me nightmares. The remake was nothing but modern slash-trash. Same with its follow-ups.
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equals paint-by-numbers Mona Lisa. You can't re-create great art.
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...I know what Jeffrey Dhamers dad did. It was heavily relevant to little Jeffreys development into a fucked up pervert. It was also interesting and creepy in retrospect of what happened. I read an interesting, apologetic interview with him too.
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Pure and fucking simple. The man has been chugging out genre classics since the fucking early 70's. Have some fucking respect
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Craven has much less talent than Carpenter.
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I like Craven too but come on! Capenter is amazing, Halloween, EFNY, BTILC,The Thing, Prince of Darkness, They Live, Christine, and on and on and on
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"Remake the bad films!" I'm still behind that POTP remake, but this one? No.
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Stop with remake news, please.
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Nowadays I'd say Craven just because Red Eye is one of the best comedies of this decade, and Carpenter is basically relegated to directing made for cable tv shows.
For the most part I'd say Craven is overated (Out of all of his films, how many are actually any good???), but the fact that he made Nightmare on Elm Street makes him a legend in my book. As far as consistency goes though, Carpenter's run from 1976-1986 is a hard one to beat. I'd put that run on par with Hitchcock from 1954-1963 as far as quality/enjoyable films go (now I'm not saying Carpenter's films are better than Hitch's, but I'd say he had a good run. I mean look at Spielberg. He usually does two or three good movies, than puts out a couple of crap films). -
What was up with part 2? Freddy could possess people? WTF was that?
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It was all downhill after that.
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What was up with the scene with the gym teacher in the leather bar?????? And the exploding pet bird?????
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no, because you wouldn't describe carpenter as a hack and I'm pretty certain you like The Thing EFNY, They Live and BTILC
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Johnny Depp(if he'd do it). Depp has always been proud of his bloody spot on Nightmare's ceiling(hence his terribly odd cameo in Freddy's dead). Then again Freddy was never all that ageless and Robert Englund isn't dead or even all that unfit to slip on the blade glove again.
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the remake that is.
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Roddy Piper and David Keith had one of the best fight scenes of all time.
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Although I saw Freddys Dead in theatres with 3-D and it was a blast. It was way better than Dream Master and Dream Child. So I will always have a fondness for the campy fun that was Freddys Dead. Although, aside from the original (which was easily the best by a long shot), the videogame-like Dream Warriors was an idea I loved and felt was never properly used again. Although, you say you couldn't imagine the movie without England? May I remind you that the under-rated Next (New?) Nightmare didn't have England as Freddy. Whoever that guy was, he was pretty bad ass. Made freddy more of a killer again and less of a burnt comedian.
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Are you guys all insane? Arent you all the ones that were complaining about Michael Myers being given too much backstory? Yes, I know they gave us the back story already but we didnt get to see it. I want to imagine the horrible messed up things Freddy did to Children, not see it. I want to imagine a rabid townspeople coming after Freddy and burning i alive, not have Michael Bay show it to us with the metal thrash soundtrack in the background. That being said, the original is still creepy as hell even though you can see a lot of the low budget technical flaws now adays..my favorite is the mattress Freddy falls on when Nancy knocks him down the stairs. Or when Freddy is chasing Tina down how in one scene the glove is on his left hand, and then suddenly its on his right and it switched about 3 times throughout the scene...but those only made the movie better for some reason.
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"I only came to chew some bubblegum, and kick some ass"
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should direct it. - But actually no one should; Vern is correct, that this re-film will probably stink.
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Take a look at their filmography and you will find that they have fucked up most of the VHS Horror classics. They are about to fuck up The Birds as well. Who are the people who gave these bastards permission?It should be three strikes and you're out but these people are getting away with it.Ben Foster is a good shout and I would like to throw William Mapother (Ethan from Lost) out there. Although I would prefer Platinum Dunes took a cyanide pill to save us all from them for now and for the future.
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in a Nightmare movie. They can just say it's a dream, so things don't have to match up.
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They beat that to death in at least three of the movies, we have to go through it all again? I don't see what's wrong with just doing a sequel.
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If the man can trash a classic like Halloween, why not Elm Street? He should cast a 7 foot wrestler in the lead role because "Freddy in the old films looks so small." Then he can have Freddy chase a bunch of hip-talking girls who refer to each other as "bitches" and "sluts" for most of the film. Then shoot the last third of the film as a scene for scene remake, sit back, and watch the money roll in from idiot teens who don't know any better.
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The House of Freddy is ready to sell off their crown jewels. It's a sad day. They spent years developing FvJ, which reinvigorated both franchises, then pissed them both away. Way to go, assholes. A new sequel or prequel set in the established Nightmare universe is the only thing that will work. How many shitty remakes does Plantinum Dunes get to make before someone catches on and stops giving them classic properties to fuck up?
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...THE HAUNTING. How you can remake and destroy a very frightening film from the 1960s is beyond astonishing! What makes matters worse is that you had a stellar cast to work with in the remake! It even had groundbreaking special effects! Yet people literally laughed/moaned when Owen Wilson got his head knocked off in the fire place. I noticed many, many flashes of "Timex indiglo" while watching the film. People were asking out loud, "When will we get to the plot?" THE HAUNTING was the first film in which I ever stood up and demanded my money back! There have been some pretty close second place finishes, but this film had to take the prize for WORST. HORROR REMAKE. EVER.
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Just because Clive Barker plans on doing it himself.
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is that The Cell guy?
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westwood: "They spent years developing FvJ, which reinvigorated both franchises" That is, by far, the dumbest thing I've read all day.
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There's no hope left for society.
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robert englund IS freddy krueger. to remake it with him is pointless and to do it without him will be blasphemy. i'll still go see it though, cause i'm a sucker.
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pretty but awful. It was J-Blow keeping up her track record of shit films.
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...it would be in Florida and Texas. I read the case of a 18 year old who was dating a 15 year old girl in his class. They never had sex, but french kissed and "touched" one another. He was convicted in Florida (or Texas, I can't remember) for being a "pedophile." The state says that a person 3 years older than their girlfriend is illegal (and he was like 3 years and two weeks older than the girl in his class). The ironic thing is that they are still dating! Hmmm...perhaps that would be a good plot device. We all know that Freddy was killed (burned alive) by parents who considered him a "pedophile." What if he was really just an 18 or 19 year old newly hired janitor who was dating a senior in high school (relatively the same age)? What if he was dating Tina's mom (from the first film)? What if she falsely accused him of rape? That would make Freddy's murder by the people in the town far more "tragic" -- and give a certain evil vindignation for his revenge. I suppose that it could work as a prequel of sorts. And that could explain why Tina's mom is an alcoholic with feelings of "guilt" in the first film. Hmmm...it could work!
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pretty stupid! hahaha, seriously though, I did like some of the images in that film so I could see him doing well with the dream stuff. However hopefully that's the closest thing it has to the cell
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The Cell sucked as a story, but the visuals were pretty damned creepy. My skin crawls just thinking about that one part well Vince Vaughn was tied to that thing and it was pulling out his entrails slowly and Vince D'onofrio was clapping and laughing....gory, eery, and creepy all at the same time. Hell, have someone else write it and have Tarsem direct and it could possibly work since the Cell was kinda like a reimagining of NOES in a way
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the only reason I watched it is because someone told me La Lopez got naked in it and I was too you ng to know better. Fucking robbery.
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Its been a few years but arent you referring to Nancy's mom and not Tina's mom? And no offense, but thats a stupid idea. Freddy wasnt just a pedophile, he was a child killer as in..he killed children. Unless Im not remembering the movies correctly in which case someone correct me.
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how could someone do that to you?
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Says so on the register - tis true :(
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I actually loved it, but that world was a fucking nightmare
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On the Midnight Meat Train
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You are probably right about it being Nancy. I can't really remember their names, since I haven't watched the film since it came on TV (and I was a kid). It was a frightening film, though. I had nightmares for weeks! As far as the info that we know about Freddy, wasn't all of that just the stories TOLD by the parents to the kids having nightmares? What if they were simply trying to justify their actions for burning a man alive? If I remember correctly, didn't the parents act awfully suspicious? I just thought that this could be an interesting "twist" to the story. What if Freddy is extracting his revenge for being falsely accused? What if he simply became, after death, what he was accused of in life? What if Tina's (or Nancy's -- or both) mom was a willful or scourned lover of a young janitor? What if the people of Elm Street killed young Freddy because he was accused of rape or pedophilia by the scourned high school students (or by parents that found out about his relationship with their daughter)? That makes the story tragic, interesting and the revenge is all the more frightening. It also explains why Freddy was interested in Elm Street and THESE teens, rather than the kids across town. I'm just saying, such a prequel could work -- and might even shed a little light on a simplistic story that is never fully explained in the films.
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Bay is Platinum Dunces- The article says it is to be helmed by Marcus Nispel
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how about it shows him as a kid and when he grows up and gets killed by the mob and set on fire in a montage with the song "I'm Burnin' for You" by blue oyster cult playing
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If they're going to do this poorly, which surely they will, I want it to be extra terrible. So bad you laugh when you see Freddy, but not because he is telling a joke.
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cameo?
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...have Freddy be the victim of a house fire as a child in the 1970s. "Disco Inferno" can play in the background. Burn, baby burn--burn! Then at the end of the movie, as the lone surviving teenage girl prepares for the final battle with Freddy, Frank Stallone will pop out from behind a basement furnace in his ruffle-shirt tuxedo and sing "Pushin' (Gettin' Ready for the Fight)."
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in the original. Heather whats-her-name...I SO wanted to give it to her.
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I think that prequel Idea would just ruin and demystify the entire Freddy mythos. I think its just scarier and more disturbing to imagine what he did to the children and what the parents did to him. Its the equivalent of watching MIchael Myers grow up as a child with trailer park trash parents and getting picked on at school...no one would be insane enough to try such a thing.
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Wesley Snipes doesn't believe in paying taxes? But I thought that he was a Democrat? Isn't their battlecry "tax the people and let the government decide how to spend it?"
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I want it to be directed by the rotting corpse of Bergman and it all to be black and white, but with a soundtrack by Aerosmith. It's a fucking horrible idea.
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Heather Langenkamp who played Nancy? I dont consider myself a big NOES nerd, I'm more of a Jason person...but geez you guys, the basic names of the characters in a film this iconic is a must.
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How about Depp as Freddy.
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Freddy will probably be played by some random tween
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but I love Gilliam and it reminded me of Gilliam meets Lynch, it's all very surreal with no plot just random weirdness, but I enjoyed the hell out of it. if you like dark humor and just general stange sights I would recommend it
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John Parr molests the Brat Pack.
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Bloody days, keeping the good away. On my way, to where I die in dreams!
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No getting around this. It will suck. First off, no one in Hollywood has the balls to cast an oddly attractive yet beautiful girl like Heather Langenkamp now. Everyone in the new one will be perfect little lithe stick blondes or straight haired brunettes with perfect teeth, perfect skin, perfect hair, etc. Second, modern horror movies are made scary by the events of a generation and the actions or inactions of that generations' parents. That's what most of the memorable 80s horror flicks are all about. Remaking a 25 year old horror movie is pointless. The fear of a successful horror movie is realized when it genuinely speaks to a generation of kids about the creepy things their parents know but don't tell them, and those things change every generation. Third is that fear of those movies at the time came from their originality of ideas, and you KNOW what a Nightmare remake is going to be about. If done well, sure, it could work, but honestly, have any of the horror remakes in the past five years actually scared anyone beyond a cat scare?
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Depp as the new Freddy Krueger is inspired casting.
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He plays a good "messed up face" guy. Is he too old?
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and he's in everything. And I think Johnny would not make a good freddy at all. He's a great actor and all, but he isn't freddy. It's either Englund or no one
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But I bet somewhere some satan spawned executive cunt is casting along those lines. "Philibrick, find out if Ryan Reynolds is available"
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off to lunch
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Stop stop stop stop stop, stop it. No more remakes, no more prequels, Just stop it already you creatively bankrupt bastards! This is why I don't go to the movies. This is why I avoid television. I'm not even excited about downloading the bloody things for free.. That says something when the product you make can't even be stolen.
Stop it, every last one of you.
Yeah, you'll get them in the theaters, with another low-wage block buster. Does it really matter if you took the top spot for the weekend with 22 million and then saw a sudden drop-off? I foresee a day when the #1 movie will only make 1 million and will be hailed as a success.. -
Nightmare is the first horror movie I ever saw, at age 6. It fucked me up. Especially the scene where Tina gets killed, I don't think I slept well for a month. That's why Nightmare works so well, the premise is fucking scary. How do you not fall asleep? How can you avoid dreaming? I always thought Friday the 13th was lame, cause all the stupid kids had to do was stay away from the fucking lake (I know, until the 8th one, where Jason tours Manhattan and then stops by space... I repeat lame). I don't want my childhood pissed on by any more talentless, pointless remakes.
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Are you all out of bubblegum?
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Seriously, how far removed is the Platinum Dunes concept from the ass movie in Idiocracy? Not very.
It's all over folks. All we can do now is watch our old faves on DVD, and cry and masturbate over our collections of pre-1990 issues of Fangoria.
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Hire Simon Callow to play freddy. Set it in Ethopia, and get Russel T Davis to write it. Soundtrack by Aerosmith. Listen to helpless teens, struggling with their sexuality and open for experimentation, get killed by a fat thesp wearing scar makeup to the gentle soft rock posings of one of the worlds premier purveyor of shitey ballads.
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He's already done some research right? Woody Allen as technical advisor. Soundtrack by Michael Jackson.
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I'm sure MiraWhiff will eat it up. WTF is up with his posts in the Wolf Man TB? Why will nobody stop him?
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I don't even know why he's allowed to write on this site anymore. Every post of his is just him kissing ass. And I agree on the idiocracy, people are willing to accept any piece of shit that is thrown their way
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It would be career suicide. Look what happened to Robert Englund. He's a good actor. Anyone remember him in V? But he got typecast and he will only be known as Freddy Krueger. Nothing he can do about it. When I saw him in something else, it was always a kneejerk: Hey, there's Freddy!
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You all know you can see it.
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I have no words to describe how great that one was!And guess what........Bioshock movie is in development!fuck Hollywood!
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Please no remake or sequel. The original had unknown actors, no cgi - no huge budget.
I guarantee once Hollywood gets it grubby hands on a "remake" it will have a big budget, cgi, well known ridiculously hot 28 y.o. actresses pretending to be 17 y.o.
New Nightmare - I like to pretend never happened b/c it ruined the series for me. Don't remake...it'd be like watching Michael Jordan come back to the NBA - AGAIN...we don't want to see him fail - we don't want to remember him that way - we don't want to see Freddy Krueger fail!! -
the old ones had pretty shitty FX. now i know a new one wouldnt have a big budget but you can make passable FX these days on a tight budget. i think this could be fun.
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"I have no words to describe how great that one was!
And guess what........Bioshock movie is in development!
fuck Hollywood!"
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you should not have said that
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the whole franchise has been fucked up since the fifth one anyway. rather just restart the thing
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it's a short dream
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from New Line in recent The Hobbit talkback.
Robert Englund is as much Freddy as Michael J Fox is Marty McFly.
I couldn't imagine anyone else playing him, true the origin has gone a little messed uo but Freddy V Jason did well didn't it? Please keep it in the same timeline!
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but my gut feeling tells me something else.
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Wesley Snipes as Freddy...
I LIKE IT!!
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Jan 30, 2008 12:03:55 PM CST
Rubbertoes:"Hollywood is what is bringing you the movie."
by travis-dane
That is what scares me!Hollywood will fuck it up!
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is such a fucking awesome movie. Also I think Carpenter beats Craven by a long shot. I mean, The Thing? That movie is still fucking scary. It's so classic and one of the best horror/sci-fi movies that deserves to stand along with Alien
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You can see it. It's only a step away from Beetlejuice. Have Warwick Davis play a trash can.
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So many unproduced scripts out there, original stuff, and now they remake another movie. Never was a big fan of the franchise, but still... Okay, 99% of the scripts suck, but invest some time and a little money to find the new Wes Craven instead of remaking him.
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Get 50 Cent to remake it.
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Surprised nobody said it yet. At least, I don't think.
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the original definitely hasn't aged well at all. The special effects are cheesey at this point and the dialog and acting wasn't all that great either. It did have some legitimate shockers and scares. It is still one of the best slasher films of all time, but I guess it doesn't fit as big of a place in my heart as Halloween.
I could live with a remake as long as it was done by the right director who gets the material. I probably wouldn't have been so against the crap that was Rob Zombie's Halloween if he remotely got what Halloween was all about. Clearly he didn't and it didn't work as a remake or even as slasher movie in general. The shame of it all, I think if he didn't have the constrainsts of a Halloween remake, he might have made a franchise-worthy slasher flick.
A Nightmare remake will depend on two thing: the director and who is Freddy. You screw up either one and the movie will suck royally. I hope they stick to the Freddy of the original and not the schlocky Freddy of some of the sequels. The original Freddy was creepy and downright scary. Freddy didn't become a comedian until Dreamwarriors (which was the best sequel).
As for Friday the 13th, they can remake the hell out of that one for all I care. I enjoyed the series through Friday 4, but that series was always the fast food of slasher flicks. There was no substance or anything that was really that redeeming plot-wise or through character development (characters were just props in the movie), but they always tried to up the killing and T&A. The ironic thing is that this series was the one perfectly suited for Rob Zombie and he probably could have hit this one out of the park. -
HULKAMANIA IS RUNNING WILD IN "YOUR" DREAMS BROTHA!
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"Aw HAIL NAW you dint just fall asleep on me, yuzall! Now you gots ta DIE!"
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but Freddy ate it. Marry me, Heather.
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in Polish.
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Rob Zombie is a terrible film maker. He should have his movie privilages revoked after the Halloween remake. The best thing he's ever made was the fake trailer for GRINDHOUSE, and that might only be good because it's 2 minutes long. He should stick to his shitty music career.
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...of how pretty Heather was / is, when it occurred to me--does Freddy jerk off with that glove on? Or does he use the other hand?
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He`s cumming in your DREAMS!one for Snowcone.
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growing up in a dysfunctional trailer home with a stripper mom and an alcoholic redneck boyfriend, with school bullies who pick on him all the time. Series killers aren't mysterious or fun anymore when you EXPLAIN their traumatic pasts. They become just another one of US. Leave them unexplained...enigmatic...and thus scary. And have them tear out throats with their BEAR hands.
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Hopefully the remake will actually be scary. they should get rob zombie to do it. he did a good job with the halloween sequel despite what all the whiners say.
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Have Freddy impale a chick with his glove, then lick the girl's dead face and say, "Knife knowin' ya!" Because that's what I want. More inane jokes.
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you really hate horror movies don't you?
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Meesa thinkin' this is stupidsa.
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Bears in their Dreams!Oh god!The title of the movie is:FREDDY`s Hibernation!But the Bears unite and kick Freddy`s ass "Dream Warriors" style.
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Young hip-hoppers get high and are killed off by Snoop Dogg for biting his rhymes.
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is full of gay erotica. A high school coach dies violently in the lockeroom shower after visiting a gay bar. That's just one example. I think the guy who played "Jesse" was in fact gay.
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SHall be played by Sarah Michele Gellar. The guy who played Juno's father as Nancy's father. Tim Olymphant as Kruger...get it done!!!
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Troubled but good-looking emo teenagers in Abercrombie Fitch clothes write songs about relationships together in a warehouse one of their daddies owns, while being viciously murdered.
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If I had the power to invade and interact with someone like a 17 year old Heather Langenkamp in her dreams, killing her is the last thing from my mind.
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where you can see his burned ass(yummie).
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What Hollywood coke sniffing ass clown thought THIS one up ? "Nightmare" does NOT need to be reamde, it's way too soon. I saw Englund in "Hatchet" last night and he could STILL play Freddy, maybe even more menacingly than ever now. Holy tittyfucking Christ, what's next, the remake of Silence of the Lambs ? Scream ? The Mist ?
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Quint did you even read the Hollywood Reporter article or Variety for that matter? Both say RELAUNCH not remake. (Same for Friday the 13th, a relaunch) And as far as the generatioal divide every horror nerd I knew growing up in the 80s loved both series.
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Freddy Kruger is terrorized when his dreams are invaded by David Lynch.
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it's the movie he's always been making, small town, nightmares below the surface
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please dont make me tell you what prevalent video game to movie director already has his claws all over the concept.
please please please dont make me tell you.
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Was the worse remake ever. The haunting started out ok, then went down hill fast.
Let see remakes of the following while we are at it: Without Warning, Humongous, The Dark, Alice Sweet Alice, Gargoyles, Prophecy (the mutant bear one), Don't go in the basement, Deadly Spawn, Parasite, The Beast Within, Deadly Harvest, The Incubus, The Hearse, Burnt Offerings, Rabid, The Final Terror, The Burning, Demonoid, Demos, Gates of Hell. I leave anything out? -
Oh God, why did you have to remind me of that abortion! "Booty on da boat y'all" UGH
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Robert Englund IS Freddy Krueger.
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I actually liked the remake! It was pretty bad ass! Over the top but had me cheering for John Ryder!
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Van Dammit!
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Ben Foster. Yeah that works big time. Until you see the line, from the Brother Who Brough you AVPR. You know this is just going to end up sucking, Freddy works because they used actual props and scray movies have been moving away from props. Though actual sets and makeup are coming back (Hatchet/Wrong Turn 2/Hills Have Eyes 2) I say let one of them direct it. Fuck it just let David DeFalco redo the whole thing and tell us that he has never heard of Nightmare on Elm Street.
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I'd like to thank Warwick Davis, Midnight Meat Train, Bears, Honeybaked Ham, and anyone involved with the Indiana Jones saga.
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Why won't they stop?
For the love of god! If these jerks think there is any green to be made they'll remake anything!
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Well, when they were talking prequel they had John McNaughton as the director, which is interesting. But it strikes me as a 100% wrong idea. Who gives a shit what happened when he was a killer outside of dreams? If you need to see his childhood or his killing, there are plenty of flashbacks in the sequels. If you need to see his trial there was a Freddy's Nightmares episode directed by Tobe Hooper. (It was terrible.) But I just don't see why any of that matters or why anyone would even think it would work. McNaughton would've made it gritty and realistic, but the best it could've done is creep you out and then say "huh, then he somehow haunted dreams."
By the way, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Freddy is ever directly said to be a pedophile or child molester in the movies. Always a "child killer." I think you can read into it but as far as I know that's never been specified. -
Can you imagine if they try (as in Halloween remake) to get us to feel sorry for freddy. Like somehow it turned out he was trying to save children from a bomb and he wasn't there in time? Or how about they take the TCM:TB route and just show him once using the glove to prune a shrub and that is how he got it. Or they could make him a doctor that studies sleep and some magical lightning can strike while he is testing his new REM equipment and suddenly he is transported into dreams, but he gets bored with the happiness and just decides to start killing kids? It's scary that I might not be off base
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You almost made me cum with that comment.
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I worked at Universal Hollywood's Halloween event this year playing one of the 800 Freddies in the Nightmare on Elm Street maze. It was kind of interesting how protective New Line was about how Universal presented the character when some of the Freddy movies they made were dog shit.
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Tickets! Get 'em up, get 'em up!
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Did anyone actually see that piece of shit? Don't make the same mistake.
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GOLDEN COMPASS was the company's last nail in the coffin: their post-LORD OF THE RINGS commerce has been a string of commercial albatrosses. They'll sell-out the ELM STREET franchise to anybody with a check book. And then they'll sell the furniture...
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anyone who actually thought that was quality entertainment is a dolt and a fool.
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How f'ing Michael Bay.
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Prove me wrong Platinum Dunes. Please.
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masculine!
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Nightmare was just as much about the kids as it was him. They weren't generic, cardboard cut-out 80s victims. Nancy, Alice, Christian, Joey, Kincaid...Why don't they just continue the story?
Alice's son is grown and his kids are haunted or some shit like that. Since he's the last branch to the original children. And, Robert England is the only Freddy. -
Clonus and get Ewan McGregor and Scarlett Johansson to star! Michael Bay should direct. Don't forget to put in a Steve Buscemi cameo too!
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Hollywood keeps reheating these leftovers, your answer is in the length of this talkback - brand awareness, and really, brand identity.
Also, the creative types - AKA SCREENWRITERS - are not out of ideas, and never will be. But as long as we the viewing public - AKA the sheep - continue to lay out cold hard plastic to see yet another reimagining of a 50-60 year old comic book superhero or an iconic horror anti-hero or villain (Alien v Predator did not lose money), the PT Barnums with their high-end HD cameras and big buildings full of art-directorfully-placed stuff and yet another hopeful generation of pretty young extroverts will continue to Jimmy Dean our imaginations to death.
If you don't want another Freddy movie, don't go to the theater, don't watch on HBO, don't buy the DVD, don't buy the Freddy Krueger happy nightmares meal and quit showing them you give a shit by posting in this talkback.
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Leaps and fucking bounds better. Way more creepy and scary, problem is it was also way to gay themed. Freddy aint shit in dreams but when he can be a part of you and what you do he is the ultimate badass. Remake that without the gay. Make the lead a woman, who kills her freinds when she falls alseep.
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Is there nothing original *EVER* gonna come out of Hollywood? This is goddamned rediculous. Leave the classics a-fucking-lone. This is total out rage!
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that burning Platinum Dunes to the fucking ground is the only alternative remaining.why someone hasn't stepped up and slapped them the fuck down is beyond my imagination... something like, "No you cannot fucking remake this movie. Get your own god damn material to work with you fucking unoriginal copycats."
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Isn't he mentioned as starring in every remake from Conan to Escape From New York anyway?
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They'd all rather play it safe. Instead of comming up with something new and original, they decide to take an oldy-but-goody classic, slap a bunch of CGI, and crappy WB actors in it, and call it a remake.
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Without the original there is no concept of what it is. Therefore you can't outdo it, so why even try. Remakes are ass all of the from TCM to DAWN. I don't understand why you bitches praise those two flicks. They both suck ass! The Thing isn't a remake it based on the story Who Goes There? - And it sticks to the story. These hollywood douche bags are taking our monsters and giving them updates liek they did with Dracula and Wolfman and shit, but they shouldnt do this... Oh well, fuck it we let them we buy tickets. Horror never gets respected- like ever.
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All it's gonna do is make us love the originals even more.
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If the studios would give some closure to the original franchises first. Freddy, Jason, Michael, Pinhead, yada yada, are just left off for the sake of the remakes. Can't they just give us some decent finality to the original franchises before moving on to remakes?
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Nightmare on Elm street isn't good because of the idea. Anybody who knows how to put socks on can come up with a monster that kills people in their dreams. It's the character of Freddy Kreuger. The look, the attitude, and most above all- the actor. Freddy Kreuger is not interchangeable. Period. Robert Englund made it his own. He's too unique to replace.
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Leave Freddy Alone!
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Optimus prime as the gay protagonist from Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge.
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way gay.
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remake old shitty movies and make them better, you fucktard hacks!
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I give up, I will not watch any of these remakes..i just wish more people would ignore these at the box office. it makes my skin crawl..
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Hate to break it to you Pilgrim but John Carpenter's The Thing was a remake of an RKO movie called The Thing from Another World.
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Like I said in the GI.JOE talkback where this broke, this is pretty much the horror equivalent of casting a new Captain Kirk.
Make no mistake, this won't simply another paint by numbers shitty remake. Elm Street is THE horror franchise from the 80's(the fridays are cool but they were all essentially the same shoestring budget cookie cutter slasher film made in Canada for 2 bucks with a cast of unknowns). Elm Street is the franchise that MADE New Line.
That's why Depp is pretty much the only viable replacement. He brings a perfect nod to the original and if they could woo him into playing Freddy then New Line would probably throw them twice the budget and force them to get a decent director AND they'd get Wes Craven's blessing. This would be Johnny Depp 's career's homecoming and since he's done more than his fair share of hamming it up as Jack Sparrow I'd bet he might even give us a slightly darker creepier Freddy and make the role his own. Casting guys who just sort of look like or reminds us of Robert Englund(Ben Foster/Ian Hart)would just be the Brandon Routh treatment and that's pretty lame. -
of a 1951 movie called The Thing from Another World. They're both based on the short story, although Carpenter's version does play it more closely to the original source. And it absolutely rocked the kasbah.
Nice referencing Barnum podosphere, that's totally what this is. And I wish I had hope that people would wise up and not pay out for shit, but then again, we get Saw V and VI coming up. My faith in people's taste in horror is gone. -
as Nancy.
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You beat me to it, Helper Monkey. Balls.
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"Who wants to help me take a giant dump on it before I show it to everybody?" - M. Bay
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This trend of remaking classic horror movies is just BULLSHIT! YOU CAN'T REMAKE CLASSIC HORROR MOVIES! Things have change and the rating system has become more stricted. Gone are those days when horror movies were really that--horror! Now its just about the cheap scare and what actor is the flavor of the month! Look at all the Coyote crap remake that can't EVEN come close the the originals! Aminiville Horror-sucked donkey dick! Texas Chainsaw-they had to make 2 because the first was nothing but eye-candy! The Hitcher-WTF was that about! And of course Halloween-just a disaster! Now Elm Street is gonna get butt raped?! FUCK YOU HOLLYWOOD!I love Elm Street, its still one of the few movies that really still scares me and for those cocksuckers to remake it is a fucking crime to humanity, and they should be castrated!
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...Even if they got Depp this is still a shitty idea. Why don't they remake a piece shit Craven movie no one cares about like SHOCKER instead. WITH HULK HOGAN AS HORACE PINKER! "THESE 24-INCH PYTHONS ARE COMING THROUGH YOUR TV, BROTHER!" ...God bless you Chafro, wherever you are.
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With a sympathetic portrayal of the asteroid. Armageddon outta here !
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wlaked away from the story, vegtable monster. No me no think so. If the thing was a remake of the thing from another world it would have been about a vegtable monster. No John thing was the correct cinematic version of the original story. John didnt shit on the original story.
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a storrrrkkeee
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Scary
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Both versions were based on John Campbell's "Who Goes There" Carpenter's was the more accurate. "Starlog" reprinted the original story in three parts at the time of "The Thing"s release to illustrate that very point. The Thing was a symbiotic shape changer, not an intellectual carrot. Tell you what, though - it's always bugged me. In the original "Thing", the thing grew another arm to replace the one torn off by the sleigh dogs. Wouldn't the severed arm similarly have grown another thing ? (That sounded different in my head, somehow)
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that recoming really burns
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K, you do realize that remakes often are different
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from the original, right Pilgrim? Unless we're talking Van Sant and the abortion that was the Psycho remake. The monster changed, so what? Would it make you more comfortable if we said re-imagining?
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WE...SHEEP...speak for yourself, big boy. As for your call to arms, all I can think to say is, "Well, no shit!"
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http://tinyurl.com/2kpeyd
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Is the inevitable talkback with the negative Vern review featuring freshly registered posters who tell us to stop expecting Shakespeare and that it was really fun and that we should stop complaining and just go watch with an open mind and that we should shut up and drink the koolaid...
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i just wanted to correct someone....Robert Englund did indeed play Freddy in New Nightmare. they bulked him up with padding to make him seem bigger and more threatening or whatnot but it was him.
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Screeeeech! (put in reverse) WTF? I'm sorry Salemslut, but I'm thinking you don't know horror at all. The Hills Have Eyes remake was good, and the best sequel was the Dream Child? Either we saw different movies, or you're insane (or we have different valid opinions, blah blah blah). The Hills have Eyes was abysmal. Astronomically bad. At one point, when one of the very stupid characters was doing one of the many stupid things they do, both my boyfriend and the guy sitting next to him said "you've gotta be fucking kidding me" at the exact same time. Not scary + idiotic people (on both sides) = steaming pile of shit. I think I've repressed the Dream Child it was so bad.
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The first one was pretty good. Do a movie based on the second game.
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Oh, FUCK this! Fuck Platinum Dunes for their pieces of shit that they have cranked out. That last Texas Chainsaw Massacre prequel was probably the most vapid piece of shit I have had the displeasure of having to stomach. Unless Wes Craven and Robert Englund are involved, count me the fuck out. The original is still one of the fucking scariest movies I have ever seen and to try to replicate cinematic perfection will come back and bite these fuckers in the ass. Please God, if you do exist, please strike down the fuckers responsible for even suggesting remaking the original movie. There is only one Freddy Krueger and Robert Englund is him. I never thought I would ever say this but this is not only the raping of my childhood but the strip mining of a classic and making it shit.
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Jan 30, 2008 6:13:24 PM CST
I love remakes... Cause after you watch em, you appreciate the o
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And NoES might be my all-time favorite slasher movie ever... I just love the fact that you never really know whats real and whats not... What's a dream and whats reality... Like in the beginning when Nancy is walking to school and she sees Robert Englund (w/ no makeup) standing on the corner looking like a limo driver!!! Shit makes no sense because she should be awake but you dont know if she is or not... No other slasher movie captured that kind of story... I love the original Halloween but NoES might be slightly better because of its surreal nature...
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As a kid it scared the bejesus out of me, but now it seems pretty lame. Freddy was a little to jokey in retrospect. They should tone down the jokes in a remake and stick with the scary.
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Salemslut, I will agree people usually act stupid to some degree in horror movies, but the things people were doing in the Hills remake were just ridiculous. For example, the "hero" shoots the mutant at the end. He then uses the one move that always tells you with certainty that your foe is dead (nudges him gently with his foot, to see if the mutant'll pop up and say "OK, you got me!"). Satisfied that the mutant is really dead, he DROPS HIS LOADED SHOTGUN RIGHT NEXT TO THE BODY! Oh my god, the mutant's alive... and he's got a shotgun! There's no excusing that kind of lazy writing. As for the mutants, how about when the female mutant knocks the main guy out and rather than killing him (I guess that's mans work), stuffs him in a freezer and puts his bat ON TOP OF THE SAME FREEZER! That's just considerate, giving a guy a shot like that. I guess this is an agree to disagree scenario, Salemslut.
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NIGHTMARE remake - The original is certainly rough-hewn (the acting ain't that great, overall), but, for the most part, it deserves its reputation as a classic. A remake seems like an interesting enterprise. If only it weren't in the hands of Damn You Michael Bay.
Ben Foster - Great actor (rent ALPHA DOG), and an interesting choice. If they go the origin story route, it's perfect, but he does seem a bit young.
'Directors can't be writers' - So, I guess that someone ought to tell, among others, Paul Thomas Anderson, Brad Bird, James Cameron, David Lynch and, while we're at it, the ghosts of Billy Wilder, Joseph Mankewicz and John Huston to eat a dick, right? Good. Lousy cocksucking writer/director motherfuckers. -
...back in the day, I fucking hated it. In retrospect, it's actually one of the better sequels in the series.
The absolute nadir is Freddy's Dead. I can't believe how fucking awful that movie is in all the wrong ways.
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Psycho!! You can't get much more classic than that. Word for word. Shot for shot. If they will do that, they will do anything. Nothing is sacred.
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...I guess that qualifies him as role model. I was ready to crucify him as a pedophile--I'm glad you set me straight on the fact that he was merely a serial killer of children. Why the hell doesn't Freddy have a show on the Disney channel? The kids will love him!
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and we still can't get a good scary Amityville Horror. The first one came close, but the remake was utter shit. You have a best selling book about a evil house with a floating demonic pig. How can they keep fuckin this up!?!
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I was mocking the fact that the hero did nothing more than poke the mutant and was then sure enough that the mutant was dead to drop his shotgun there. If any actual person had been through that, they may never let go of that shotgun again, and you can bet your ass they aren't just going to hand it over to their enemy because he doesn't move. I repeat... lazy writing just so they could have that stupid final shot with the girl sacrificing herself. Lame lame lame. People don't have to behave completely rationally in horror movies, but idiocy for the sake of cliched scenes will never get a pass with me.
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The original Dawn of the Dead is a masterpiece, I don't think a remake could possibly live up to it. And I'll agree that the remake of THHE is closer to matching the original... and don't hate me for this... but that's easier cause the original HHE isn't nearly as good as the original DOTD. You didn't like the characters in DOTD? Really? But there actually WERE characters, with surprising arcs in some cases (such as the security guard who you think is going to be the human villain but ends up being an asset to the team). I thought THHE didn't even have characters... just kind of stereotyped stock people to be killed. Neither remake scared me, though. I think we just have really different taste.
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I liked the original dawn and the dead and liked the remake as well. I think its because they were pretty much so radically different from each other that they might as well be different movies. I also like the remake of THHE. I thought it was exciting, not scary but exciting. And him dropping the shotgun next to the body..well..considering he had just had his fingers chopped off, was cut by a razor whip thing or wahtever, beaten to a pulp and thrown through walls, and carrying a baby..I kinda excused the stupidity I guess. I didnt think Dream Child was that bad..I think out of all the sequels it definitely had the best atmosphere and tone. I still remember clearly the black chick on the diving board about to dive and then being sucked into a dream...the movie wasnt great but it wasnt the worst of the bunch. Dream Warriors is still my favorite but I can watch them all. I need to because I havent seen part two in YEARS and dont recall all the homoeroticism that this site and other sites are accusing it of having.
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Responsible for all the best gore. It even beats most of the stuff we see today. I always like to see him appear in flicks, especially as Sex Machine in From Dusk til Dawn. Or when Romero or Rodriguez will throw him in as a cameo. Let's lead the campaign to bring him back to FX!
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Freddy came for Nancy. But so did I. Because in addition to Karen Allen, Kate Capshaw, that chick on OceanQuest, and maybe Kathleen Turner once or twice, I choked it to Heather Langenkamp. Thank you very much.
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But since they're making it, they should avoid doing the one thing I disliked about the originals, which was 'cheat' the audience by mixing reality with dreams. For example, at the end of the first movie when the red and green car pulls up to get Nancy, and locks them in, while Freddy's arm grabs Nancy's mom through a window. That was a 'cheat.' I prefer the dream stuff to stay completely separate. None of this funny business.
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of movie fans, they will think any remake regardless of quality is perfectly normal as they will have been weened on nothing but remakes for twenty years and I think this is Platinum Dunes and others plan all along, bombard people with this crap long enough and it will become accepted and the norm and they can make themselves rich feeding us this recycled crap they call filmmaking.
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Another remake???? NOES is a classic. It'll look like PSYCHO. It will suck, its inevitable. They should remake movies that suck, not classics. They should think about movies like The Serpent and the Rainbow. I'll pay to watch that.
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Was "Prince of Darkness" a John Carpenter film? Came out in like '86 or '87 and creeped me the hell out. I wouldn't mind seeing something like that again, but I don't think today's filmmakers are smart enough to handle it.
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According to Dark Horizons: "Friday's Jason Voorhees and Elm Street's Krueger last appeared in 2002's successful but generally panned "Freddy vs. Jason". Scribes Damian Shannon and Mark Swift, who penned that film, are writing the new 'Friday'."
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Remake a movie, fine, but do something different, like those remaking songs but sound like the original but not quite. Remake a movie make it your own using the original source. Too easy.
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I mistook
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Predictions: It will star a rapper, the shark will 70 feet long and all cgi, the location will be moved to South Miami beach (more hot ass), and Chief Brody, Hooper and Quint will all be in their early 20's. Oh yeah, it will fucking suck too.
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Face it.
It's been too long for sequels to all the movies we loved. Goonies, Breakfast Club, Hellraiser, Freddy, Jaws, Exorcist etc.
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and it was the last thing Carpenter did that was real Carpenter like we all know and love. damn he made some cool shit then fell to the ground hard. WTF happened to him ???
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when he made that invisible man movie with chevy chase. I swear chevy chase puts a curse on anyone he works with, including himself, after he made Fletch. The curse of sucking
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I'm a big Foster fan, especially of his aggressive stuff, but Freddy's my fav. Plenty of other source material.
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curiosity killed the fans
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Original is legendary... and if Rob Zombie can't do a horror remake without failing... and it WAS a failure... then noone can. Leave it be.
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do a decent friday the 13 remake first, that franchise needs it alot more..then maybe move on to a nightmare re-do......and dont even think about re-placing robert englund, it just wouldnt be freddy anymore, it would simply be another actor playing robert englund playing freddy-big mistake.
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Platinum Dunes is starting to reek of shit, not that the stench wasn't already lingering to begin with. I don't have anything against a new Freddy, but why a remake?! If there is antoher one, it should be an add on to what's already there. And this one is supposed to reveal back story? WTF! Some things are better left unsaid. We've seen enough backstory in all of them, including a good bit in Freddy's Dead. As an aspiring screenwriter, I've had bits and pieces of a new Nightmare (yes I know) in my head for awhile, hoping someday to get it out there, and now that's shot to shit. Who knows how it would have ended up, but at least it wouldn't have been a FUCKING remake.
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Kick this to the fucking curb. Bullshit is the only word to describe a remake of this classic. If they do make it, then Ben Foster would be perfect. You'd need a friggin' awesome director. Someone like Neil Marshall would be great.
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Is Dre doing the soundtrack again? Do tell!
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And they could save some cash on the wrinkly makeup, too.
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And if it's rated R
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He has been for 25 damn years. There's NO REASON to remake this and recast. You can recast Leatherface (mask) and you can recast Michael Meyers (mask) and you can recast Jason to your heart's content (mask! mask! mask!) but you CANNOT recast Freddy, Ash Williams, or Pinhead.
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Well, Lucas kinda did already with the prequels.
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Carpenters the Thing is not a remake of the classic Thing from another word...watch the making of on the the dvd special and Carpenter will explain it for you....The new Hulk movie is not a remake just like the new Batman flicks...it's just based on the same source material....
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Clint Morris is reporting that New Line has the intention to approach Englund about playing Freddy in the remake...
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Fuck this remake. I dont care who the fuck does it. I will not see it. I will not give them my money for another remade film. I think all of you who love the original should just not give a fuck and Do NOT see it when it comes out.
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not while Neil Marshall exists to save it from remake hell and TP dreck
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my ranking on slasher icons. based on their first full appearances btw only.
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Doomsday looks like it could be good or it could be extremely awful.
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Prossor- getthefuckouttahere Leprechaun must be ranked number one as he's the only one that went both to space and da hood. Cronenfly, I know Doomsday worries me- but Marshall is 2 for 2 so far.
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it seems that robert will be again freddy.
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Here's a bit of news from within the world of publishing: in writing their NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET spin-off novels for Black Flame books, the authors were told that they could not explore Freddy's past as a child killer. New Line, it seems, wants to depict Freddy as having been, quite simply, a serial killer -- not a child killer, and certainly not a child molester. I'm not sure if this is the new status quo for cinematic Freddy, though, but it's possibly an indicator...
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Fuck me, Is that true? What a way to emasculate the character.
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Last I heard, yeah. (I haven't read the novels, and am going by something one of the authors publicly stated -- as trustworthy a source as one can hope for.) But remember -- this applies to the book series, and may in no way reflect New Line's intentions for the remake. Then again, movies reach a far larger audience than spin-off novels. If New Line really does want to de-emphasize Freddy's past as a child killer in the novels, they probably will do the same on film.
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what a bunch of clueless wankers. The fact that Freddy was a degenerate child killer is one of the things that made him stand out.
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It'll be a case of not erasing child-killing from the character's past but of simply not mentioning it. It wasn't mentioned in FVJ. Hell, I haven't seen FREDDY'S DEAD in ages, but I'm not sure it was mentioned there. They were downplaying it even then, so who knows?
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it is a remake- therfore they are remaking him as a serial killer rather than a kiddie killer. it's been a while since I've seen Freddy's Dead but I think it was mentioned.
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But I am worried about Doomsday too. Judging by the reviews and the trailer I had a hard time watching, I don't know how it's gonna turn out
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At least it isn't a remake, and Marshall is yet to put a foot wrong.
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(1) To Abominable Snowcone... The best part of NoES was the fact that you couldn't tell what was a dream and what was real... So pretty much ANYTHING could happen!!! Even shit that made no sense (like the ending)...
(2) The original Dawn of the Dead might be the most overrated horror movie EVER... I love it but jesus...
(3) And if a movie takes the same name of an older movie (and has pretty much the same subject matter) it's a REMAKE... I dont care what John Carpenter says... And if The Thing isnt a remake, then my list of remakes that surpassed the original gets reduced from two to one (Cape Fear)... -
I just hope he can pull it off. Seems to be a very ambitious outing this time. However, I do love the idea of people living in a castle and wearing armor + the mad max stuff looks great too
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He has the "look". But I would say Eric Dane based on the fact that he doesn't look like a cliched movie pervert. That way it would be believable if kids went missing on the block and no one would automatically suspect him. Leighton Meester should be Nancy. And Papa Mars should be her dad.
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erm....1)The Fly2)Oceans 113)Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. And beyond that there aren't any.
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I'd also say The Thing
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Yeah, I mentioned early on that Crispin would be good. As someone else pointed out, the guy seems creepy already even without makeup. Plus, as we learned in Friday the 13th 4, he's a "dead fuck." But is a great dancer.
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granted the original was black and white, and I believe a silent film. I did not know there was a remake of Dirty Rotten Scoundrels. Martin and Caine weren't the originals? Fly was not only better because of the effects, but Goldblum was awesome and Cronenburg was at the helm. This is how Brundlefly eats, barf.
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is still fucking crazy. I'll have to rent that again, it's been such a long time since I've seen it. What a classic
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How long before the remake of "Fright Night" is announced? And who will play Evil Ed this time.
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birthing a maggot. Ugh. Cronenberg knows hot to get to us doesn't he. (Look, I spelled his name right this time. Hooray for me). Fly II was pretty good too.
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I was eating a doughnut when you were talking about him eating puke and I remembered that scene and yeah. :)
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Craven, Carpenter, and Romero movie along with Friday the 13th and be done with it. They're already butchered a big chunk of the masters. Why not finish the job? Stupid can't think of an original idea Hollywood writers.
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The thing doesn't count. It isn't a remake- it's another interpretation of the same source material. I didn't know Ben Hur was a remake. OK remakes: 1)Scarface 2) Cape Fear 3) Dawn of The Dead 4)erm? help? Shit remakes the list is too long and I can't be arsed- but I reserve special venom for Barb Wire.
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I knew this was going to happen. They've nearly got to the end of Carpenter so have moved on to cronenburg.
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"Sorry, that was disgusting." Talking about The Fly and werewolf movies in the other post, Eric Stoltz is supposed to be in something called Howl. It sounds like it could be interesting. Although it sounds like Moonlight with a werewolf instead of a vampire. So much for originality.
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but only if it is the creators of Platinum Dunes head's exploding
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it can be done. It is possible to produce a good remake. However, to do it, you've got to respect and understand the original work. If you go in half-cocked at it, and try to bend it to your ideas then you will ALWAYS fuck it up- why try to reinvent the wheel? these films were successful for a reason.
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every one keeps saying Tim Burton should do this, or Tim Burton should do that. I like Tim Burton but he isn't a horror director. He knows how to make comedy-horror, but I don't think he could do a full fledged horror movie.
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Pacino wasn't the original? Or there was a remake after him? Never heard of it. Are you sure?
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but there have been many great Re-imaginings: The Thing, Assault on Precinct 13, The Magnificent 7, etc. And if anyone tries to claim The Ring is a good remake. It isn't. It smells of horse piss.
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enjoyed the hell out of both of those ones
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but I enjoyed The Ladykillers, Tom Hanks was fuckin' brilliant in that
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It's black and white and about Capone. It's much better than the De Palma one. (Not that Tony Montana isn't a bad ass of the highest order)
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Fucking shame on you. That isn't fit to hold a candle to the original. Alec Guinness would well and truly Juggfuckle Tom Hanks.
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12 monkey's isn't strictly a remake. It borrows from too many different films. It's more of a reimagining.
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the original was better, but I did enjoy the remake
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Starring Ice Cube and Method Man. Now there is some darkness for you!
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Starring Ice Cube and Method Man. Now there is some darkness for you!
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Scarface is a good example of how to do it properly.
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But its title will be changed to "MILF and Me".
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I wouldn't be surprised.
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don't you think?
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Big trouble played by Kathy Bates, Little China played by Warwick Davis, soundtrack of cource by Aerosmith.
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It was mentioned in Freddy's Dead that he was a child killer...well either the mentioned it or strongly implied. Thats why it was such a big deal when the cardboard teens showed up to the town and all the old people were all over them because no teens or children could survive on elm street or something like that. And Freddy's Dead gets a lot of shit..well..it did suck..but come one..Alice Cooper...and the evil Power Glove??? And the more I think about it the more I think Dream Child doesnt get the credit it deserves for trying to be decent. And no one has explained to me why Freddy's Revenge is known as the gay one...i havent seen it in years.
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being announced. It'll be completely recast and terminally awful. How do you recast Mrs. Robinson?
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And will star jason biggs, christian slayter, tara reid, and Casper Van Douche. Directed by TIm Story. Featured songs by Justin Timberlake, Carrie Underoos, and hip hop superstar Ohh Zeee.
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I vote for Kelly Preston in that role. Get that kid who played Stiffler in the American Pie movies in it, that fucker is in everything.
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starring Shia as Groucho, Ryan Reynolds as Harpo, Spencer Breslin as Chico, and will feature no more than 25 "fat lady sings" jokes
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Cabin Fever, starring Warwick in every role. Directed by Woody Allen. Soundtrack by Aerosmith.
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But the title will be called "Citizen K" and will feature a hip hop record mogul in the title role, who forgets were he comes from...the streets, and dies a lonely old black man. The cost of not "keeping it real".
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I liked Hanks, but thought the movie sucked. I didn't feel the chemistry, and thought the plot was lacking.
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I'd love to see an all-starring Warwick remake of Braveheart though. Just the battle scenes alone would be amazing, soundtrack by Toto
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it was called 'Get Rich or Die Tryin'" starring Curtis '50 Cent' Jackson
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you're right, it wasn't a great movie by any standards.I just like Hanks in it, thought he did a great job, and I laughed almost every time he came on screen. Please do not judge my liking of the Ladykillers to my taste in movies, it was a weak moment
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to star in remake of beloved Childrens classic "The Railway Children". Sadly Jenny Agutter will not be appearing, but there will be a special spot for Lindsy Lohan's minge. Soundtrack by Mozart.
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Citizen K would have made it come out my nose. "Rosebud, my ho" then dies.
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I was flying back from Utah, right after sundance, and set next to a filmmaker from Argentina, Fabián Bielinsky,
who did a film called "9 queens" and was shopping for scripts. I guess he is friends with Guillermo del Toro.
We talked for 4 hours about film. He said is love of filmmaking was born from watch the great american films of the 70s (he called it the golden age)
Films like the godfather, the exorcist, the french connection, etc....
He told me there are rooms full of people who's job it is to scan old films and tv shows in hopes of finding stuff that can be remade.
Would it be just as easy to get bright people in room and bounce new ideas off of each other?
.....sigh......
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the journey of a young pimp to find the beautiful garden that lays within his soul. "I'mma rip off dis rose and feed it to my pit!" Warwick Davis as a shrub. Soundtrack by Devo
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we constantly get forcefed bullshit by a lot of these people. Creativity is squelched by the masses in order to bring in money. It's not even about the love of writing or making film anymore. It's how fast they can crank out the new Saw movie
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I feel they completely missed the point with this one. There's no horses in the Ghetto. The soundtrack, though, is by the ongoing catalogue of atrocities known as The Scorpions. Expect a big Box Office in Germany.
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the Ghetto either. So it might be okay. Sadly, Wiseman's directing.
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oh no, that actually sound like something they would do! I'm sorry guys, i didnt mean it!
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But it now will feature a deep message about accepting people who are different that you, in place of funny moments.
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soundtrack by Ace of Base
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Especially when they use that "creator" argument. Erm, no. You didn't create this. John Carpenter did. 20 years ago. No residuals for you. BAD WRITER- BAD.
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this time the terminator uses sass to destroy the world. soundtrack by A flock of Seagulls
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to remake Gone with the wind. Soundtrack by Slipknot.
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to remake "whatever happened to Baby Jean". Directed by Bay. guaranteed use of shakeycam and fast cut editing- with one gorgeous panoramic slo-mo shot of Kelly's wheelchair to the (frankly) inexplicable music of Yanni
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Jan 31, 2008 9:22:34 AM CST
have you guys seen the trailer for "Welcome home Roscoe Jones"?
by kloipy
is it just me or does that movie look like the most racist thing this side of the mighty mississip?
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Mirajeff to remake Raging Bull. Soundtrack to prominently feature Hannah Montana covering Massive Attack's Teardrop.
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But this time the grieving parents will be played by to 20 year old actors. No explanation will be given as to how they could have an eight year old daughter. The director, Tim Story, promises lots of fake scares provided by people coming up from behind and putting their hands on someone's shoulder, or a cat jumping out from a closet, punctuated by loud gotcha music. Can't wait!
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"Float like a butterfly, sting like a butterfly" soundtrack by Tatu
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soundtrack by The Lovin' Spoonfull
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that was genius,
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MiraJeff in Good Luck Up-Chuck
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Critics are praising his fabulous central performance as a woman in a boxing ring. Word has it that "We're talking Oscars, baby"Soundtrack by Celine Dion.
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the vomit out of him as well. I hope he feels very, very fucking stupid about now
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that's dead on
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My name is MiraJeff, you got challenged, prepare to...oh god...NOT AGAI...BLEAAAAAAAA
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does anybody that works for this website have any training as a writer? good god.
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soundtrack by Cat Steven / Ysef Islam.
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MAXIMUS: "IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT" CROWD: "NO" MAXIMUS "bleaaaaargh". CROWD "THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED"
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What ever happened to that moonbat?
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with Mel Gibson as director and to play Ben-Hur.
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with Black Box priveleges who threatened to beat me up in the wolfman TB.
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with New Order and Depeche Mode laying down the sweet tracks
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with Josh Brolin as McMurphy. Soundtrack by Rush, Yes, and Genesis.
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I've just seen it a billion times on cable in the recen months. And yes, the birth sequence is STILL SICK. I swear that thing looks REAL every time I see it. So The Fly, The Thing, and Cape Fear - Top 3 remakes of all-time... Never seen the original Scarface so I cant comment on that. I cant imagine it being better than the Pacino version...
OH and The Fly II was really stupid. The end in particular where Eric Stoltz who's a fully grown 10 feet fly hybrid monster somehow manages to drag the rich tycoon villian of the movie into the pod with him turning him into the monster and Eric Stoltz goes back to being 100% normal... What a joke... -
with Midgets!and an 80`s pop soundtrack!
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Then the Thing definitely is. The only thing the DePalma version shares with the 30's version is the name, and the basic idea of a crime kingpin. That's it.
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are both interpretations of Dashiell Hammet's Red Harvest
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than the Thing is. The difference is you can share source material without being a remake.
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The way movies can be based on a certain person without being a remake?
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I didnt say i didnt see the gay subtext, I just said I didnt remember the movie and asked for a refresher..which I guess means I didnt see the gay subtext so nevermind. Thanks for the description lol. If thats accurate..thats terribly gay lol (not that theres anything wrong with that)
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you know you will see it either way
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I always say this same thing everytime a remake thread on AICN pops up. I bet it will happen eventually. It will star Dakota as Reagan, Jennifer Connelly as her Mom, Patrick Stewart as Merrin, Joaquin Phoenix as Karras, and it will be PG13 because all of the terror will be "visceral" and most of it implied because u dont need to show crucifix masturbation scenes to scare people. (I fucking swear Hollywood is full of pussies afraid of gore or offending anyone. I'm sick of PG13 horror or lying ass directors who claim to "love" the source material that is the basis for their remake. And their movie is complete shit like "Hallowen".
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You can have many films from the same source, (Yojimbo and FOD being a good example) that aren't remakes. If you base 2 films off the same person's life (the 2 capote ones) they can also be totally different. However, Depalma borrowed wholesale from the earlier version, it shares many plot points and other such with the original. I like scarface, and I love the thing, but can distinguish between a remake and a different interpretation,
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Can't wait to see it, along with cgi vomit.
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I'm sold. I'm buying what you're selling.
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The original insomnia is waaaaay better. Don't know about the french one though.
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that remakes and re-imaginings can be done. Just the chances of fucking it up are astronomical.
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Scarface is based on a novel. Therefore, by my own rules if the second one is based on the book and not the first film then it isn't a remake
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just in case she's reading.
Heather Langenkamp, I masturbated to you at least a half dozen times in the early eighties. Thank you, baby. -
It's best to start with something that wasn't too good in the first place (I know others have made this point too). If you're dealing with a classic or beloved movie in the first place, you almost have nowhere to go but down.
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According to The Pulse, Scarface was a remake of the 1932 version. Course, I don't know if they know if was first a book, but I think you're safe in calling it a remake by your own standards.
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credited a book. But we all know how reliable they are.
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because it is starring blacks saying these things. If the same thing coming out of their mouths had a white face attached it would be racist.
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Mind you, I'm British,
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Cleopatra Jones.
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Jan 31, 2008 11:26:12 AM CST
And the British know nothing about good Horror or porn....
by travis-dane
just kidding!;-)
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we get that from Europe. Horror on the other hand....
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know nothing about comedy!!!!! (ZING)!!!!!
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I don't know man, it just screams UPN sitcom, written by 8 white guys
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BENNY HILL!
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him in was the Genesis video off the Invisible Touch album. Video, you know, those things MTV used to play. You know, MUSIC Television. And album, they were these big round things made of vinyl you would put on a record player and oh who am I kidding,I'm old.
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Montey Python, Young Ones, Black Adder, Spaced, THe Office, i could go on and on. We american's have some great shit too, but you can't find it on most channels. Except for the Simpson's which is the greatest show ever made
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she had a bunch of their comedy albums on record and I used to love listening to them. Plus she also showed me Clockwork Orange and Eraserhead before I was 10 so maybe that's why I'm so fucked up :)
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that we export around the world to keep your grubby mitts off our good stuff.But he did give Jane Leeves (Daphne in Frasier) her break so he's a hero.
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greatest tune ever for people running in circles and kicking each other in the ARSE!I LOVE it!
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I'm British-that's why I don't know what film she's talking about. Travis knows this. Travis said we know nothing about horror (when we're good at it), so I chipped back with the old cliche about Germans not having a sense of humour. Very strange
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argh.....mtv........shit!
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Jan 31, 2008 11:42:34 AM CST
Grammaton Cleric Binks that wasn't a real genesis video
by classyfredblassy
That was nasty turd from the Phil Collins pop machine. Real genesis is Peter Gabriel in the flower costume doing supper's ready. now who is old?
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We've been apologising for that baldy cunt for years.
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and He was just kidding!And to quote a dude I like:"Christ on a fucking moped!"best line ever.
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Jan 31, 2008 11:48:41 AM CST
a elm street prequel? who the fuck would want to see that?
by bmacsmith
just becomes a generic slasher movie at that point.
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who has some "old" Genesis CD's with Peter Gabriel, and they sounded real good. Funny this is when Invisible Touch, the song, not the album, hit number one, it was knocked off by - you guessed it, Peter Gabriel's Sledgehammer. First time ever a group got knocked out of a top spot by a former member of the group. Actually my favorite Peter Gabriel is his Afro Celt collaboration Falling.
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V for Vendetta was perfect.
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Jan 31, 2008 12:15:07 PM CST
Grammaton Cleric Binks actually the best Genesis CD
by classyfredblassy
Is Trick of the Tail, or Wind & Wuthering, both made right after Gabriel left. They went down the poop into top 40 pop after Hackett left and they became a trio. I work with some young whipper snapers who thought Genesis just did stuff like "i can't dance", I let them listen to "the lamb lies down on broadway" and they were like, "these guys are awesome! just like pink floyd" ...for new prog goodness check out Porcupine Tree or Spocks Beard.
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Wind & Wuthering my friend played. Whatever Gabriel Genesis album was it was great.
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is being done by Malcom Lee, Spike's cousin. I'm still mad at Spike for two thing: Going off on Quentin Tarrantino for using the word nigger, like only Spike has a license to use it and 2) going off on Charlton Heston about guns. Heston's response was basically bring it on, and Spike backed down big time. I think if some white guy made Roscoe, blacks would be protesting. Seriously think about this if there was a movie called Black Hoes starring Any Dick and Jason Biggs for example, and had black stereotypes then Sharpton, Jackson, and Lee would be all over it. But, White Chicks with the white heiress stereotypes is okay. I hate double standards.
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Jan 31, 2008 12:44:39 PM CST
Grammaton Cleric Binks, anything from 1977 and earlier
by classyfredblassy
Is great. Can't go wrong with any one of them.
I can't think of another band that changed so much over about 6 years. And not for the better. Collins maybe have been their down fall, but that dude has got talent up to his neck. When he was just the drummer he could play some great licks on the drums. Plus he can sign and play keyboards well, and can play guitar a bit. Most "artists" can play or sing anything , the just loop stuff in Acid Pro or Reason
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Image Pink Floyd mixed with Soundgarden, with some Opeth type thrashing once in a while, and that is what they sound like
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thanks for the info. I don't know when I saw the trailer it just rubbed me the wrong way. Spike is annoying sometimes too. I like some of his stuff, but he can be an asshole
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Lion King was Elton John, which by the way, is do for a remake as well.
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Lion King was Elton John, which by the way, is do for a remake as well.
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Don't get me wrong, I like many of his movies, but some of his stuff seems racist, and other times he goes around preaching peace and fighting against racism. He is very hard to figure out.
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Hey, it worked for Mel Brooks twice.
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This will make you feel better; A remake of the "Changeling" has been announced! Now with cgi wheelchairs and bouncing red balls! ooh scary
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Way to waste a create subject for a movie, Spike you cock.
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Revenge of Depp!
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He'll play that stinking role like a harp from hell, wah wah wah wah!!
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This movie will ever work. There's a lot of inspired names being bandied about, but unless New Line grew a pair and let some new indie director loose with the keys to their Cadillac (on you go, anyone EXCEPT Platinum Dunes) this movie will be shit.
Like some guy said earlier, these bastards are hit-and-run film-makers. They go for a reasonableopening weekend, and fuck-all to do with "legs".
And why? Because if we LIKED their movies, we might buy a DVD and rewatch it over and over, like we do the REAL 80s classics. But if you're rewatching a great movie, you're not out watching the NEXT fucking neutered ADD Ritalin-addicted MTV-edit fucking epileptic Rob Zombie inspired fuckfest of a remake, with your dick stuck up in a bucket of popcorn and a horny teen chick groping you in the back row.
Conclusion: Good movies = rewatch value = not going out as often to buy tickets to more shit remakes.
It's purely financial, y'all. They want us to watch their shit, hate their shit, then go watch more of their shit in an everlasting quest to find the one good remake that MIGHT just happen.
DAWN OF THE DEAD was a fluke. TCM remake was the indicator. THE FOG was the utter nadir. This will never fucking end. The cinema is officially dead.
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Wow. It's really come to this, has it? What the fuck can't they just leave this shit alone? Stupid ass teenagers with the attention span of gnats aren't enough to fund these movies. If they were the only ones going, these fuckin remake garbage fest, memory raping wads of shit stained toilet paper would have stopped getting made years ago. You know what that means? They keep getting made beacause all of US are going to see them or buying the DVD's. Everybody send five dollars to the studio along with a note saying, "Here take the money, just don't make the fuckin movie, you greedy, non writer paying, cum swilling, dirtbag cocksuckers." This movie hit video stores when I was about 8, and it scared the shit out of me, sure, time has taken it down a notch, and the sequels gave Freddy a uterus, but goddamn it's still an incredible, creepy movie. The remake, like all remakes, won't change that, but these cocksuckers shouldn't profit off of our nostalgia. Fuck em! I've said this before and bowed down, but this time I mean it. I WON'T WATCH THIS MOVIE, EVER!!! It could win a fuckin Oscar for all I care. Can't they make any horror movies from original concepts anymore like The Grudge, The Ring, The Eye...oh...yeah. I forgot we even remake their fuckin classics. FUCK!!!!!!
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Remakes. They suck and they're patronized by the fanboys. There was a blurb on HALLOWEEN ads (i.e. Zombie's remake) that made me cringe: "Best HALLOWEEN ever!" I kid you not. The FRIDAY/13TH remake will function only as a challenge to the MPAA (more torture porn, hope the director is less of a hack than the blissfully untalented Eli Roth). And Robert Englund will not reprise his Freddy role in the NIGHTMARE remake: he'll be saddled with a cameo (e.g. one of the rather irate parents) while the choice of a new actor to play Freddy will be grist for the p.r. treadmill. Damn, by the time your kids reach adolescence, some asshole will remake SAW.
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Johnny Depp should play Freddy. then everything will have come full circle. And if he uses puns they should be above the stupid Crypt Keeper level this time.
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Hell! Burton could play hell with Freddy's razors and the Depp connection is already there. Depp's character survived-yes all the blood spatter from part one was in theory-in some sort of purgatory and comes back present day. HELP US ALL.
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of course, Elm Street in Beaver Creek, Indiana with Freddy as a whore-lovin' redneck who grew up in a trailer park with fat whores, bad perms and Lynard Skynard music blastin' from the 8-track player
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David Lynch direct, if a remake MUST be made. Of course, this would NEVER happen which is why I can dare to 'dream', BUT, having Lynch orchestrate Kruger dream sequences would be pretty cool.
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The reasons why sacarface is successful as a remake are as follows: The original is nearly 50 years old- and no bugger can remember it. 2) A top drawer cast (Al Pacino, Michelle Pfieffer etc. Wow) 3)Good script & Director at the height of his powers 4)Intelligent relocation 5) Timeless story (who doesn't love a rise and fall story) 6)Depalma and stone obviously respect the original 7)Cracking soundtrack. Basically, it COULD be an original movie, and because of this I like it even more. If your going to remake somthing do it like this. DO NOT GO THE ROUTE THE WICKER MAN CHOSE. But seeing as you've already ignored point 1 in jarv's successful remake recipe it is inevitably going to blow.
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scene!"and now the leg!"shit!Great Movie!
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Feb 01, 2008 6:45:17 AM CST
No one had better fuckin touch Fright Night
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
My rage will be all consuming. It is without a doubt my fave 80's horror flick. You got Evil Ed, Peter Fucking Vincent, Dandridge, a kickass Brad Fiedel Soundtrack, Marcy from Married with Children, and Fucking Peter fucking Vincent Vampire Killer!
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just because I loved the characters of Charlie and Peter fucking Vincent soooo much that even with its slightly unsatisfying ending, its still a fave(I even wrote my own Fright Night 3 on a typewriter when I was about 15 yrs old, it had Charlie meeting Amy again- not to mention Evil Ed). Man, even at thirty I'm such a geek.
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I think I heard that they were.
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Saw it opening weekend on a Saturday night in a sold out showing when I was in high school.
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Sorry yanks,
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For REAL.
Chris Sarandon = the shit. And he's not a bad-looking fellow, if I may say so myself. Though I'm one hundred percent hetero, I can tell when a guy has got it "going on" and have no problem admitting it. -
...and they totally fucking don't, they need to do these things (which they won't):
Don't cast the kids with rejects from "The O.C." and "One Tree Hill." What's great about A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET (and quite a few slasher films of the '80s) is that the teenagers were always more "real" than in later slashers where they were played by fake-ass model looking motherfuckers/bitches. Look at the cast of NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET. They all look pretty normal. Even the insanely good-looking Johnny Depp (I'm straight I'm straight) doesn't look out of place.
Don't make the kids stupid. In A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET the kids were regular kids. They weren't a bunch of fucking morons doing stupid fucking shit and getting killed because of their stupidity.
Don't be having them kids fucking each others' brains out. Not even the insanely gorgeous teen heart-throb Johnny Depp of "21 Jump Street" fame got any play in the original.
Thank you, Mr. Bay for not listening to my suggestions because you don't read these sorts of sites and are the anti-Christ. Enjoy unleashing Armageddon on us all. And I don't mean the movie with Die Hard fighting a meteor. Though that just about ended my existence, I can tell you. -
Robert Englund IS Freddy...No one could play that role besides him. Hollywood should just leave Freddy in peace. I couldn't stand the watered down version of him in "Freddy Vs. Jason" (although Robert Englund did a fantastic job, as usual). They should have just let it end gracefully with "New Nightmare," which, in my opinion, is one of the greatest horror movies ever filmed.
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But I'm not really a fan of the metaphysical type horror. I thought that setting NEW NIGHTMARE in "the real world" actually made it seem less real. Though Freddy had some bitchin' duds in that movie. And nobody forgets that entrance. "Miss me?"
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Gorgeous. Absolutely gorgeous.
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I would fucking LOVE to read that FRIGHT NIGHT 3 script you wrote. You had me at "Charlie meets back up with Amy. And Evil Ed."
Fuck these discussions - post that sequel on this TB NOW!!! -
Feb 04, 2008 9:27:55 AM CST
Does anyone else feel as if these remakes are ERASING them?
by rex manning
I'm only 30 and this influx of remakes of all my fave movies that are only 20 years old makes me feel as if I am slowly dissipating like McFly at the Enchantment Under The Sea.
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I’m so against this. If you are, please show your support for the real Freddy Krueger by signing the No Nightmare Remake Petition!!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/nonewnightmare/
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