Jan. 28, 2008, 8:29 a.m. CST
FACT. Except Resident Evil: Apocalypse, but then that goes without saying.
Jan. 28, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST
Because you're a grown man who still thinks that Steven Seagal is cool.
Jan. 28, 2008, 8:40 a.m. CST
Pretty much what i expected.
Jan. 28, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST
What a shame
Jan. 28, 2008, 8:49 a.m. CST
But never mind, I won't be subjecting myself to this crap.
Jan. 28, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST
And thats just big(ger) budget stuff. Some of the B movie things that get dvd distribution are truly more horrible than their content.
Jan. 28, 2008, 8:59 a.m. CST
by Darth Sticky
Jan. 28, 2008, 9 a.m. CST
Really? Direct-to-video didn't tip you off that this was gonna be shit? "Direct-to-video" is the same as "Direct-to-Sci-fi" or "Independent production". No good can come of this.
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:07 a.m. CST
You're kidding me. Drop the muther on this film and nuke it. Don't tell me he eats Quorn brains?
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:07 a.m. CST
The screenwriter should be flayed alive.
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:11 a.m. CST
Without it we probably had one less review by Vern!<br> Okay, bad for Vern that he had to watch it, but good for us, who can read his review. ;)
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST
by Franklin T Marmoset
The original Day Of The Dead has always been a little underrated, I reckon. The overall story is sort of weak (zombies outside, zombies inside, run away!), but there are so many individual elements to that one I enjoy - Bub, Rhodes (truly a great movie prick), and those great effects. Remember that one zombie whose head was pared all the way down to just his brain? Very nicely done. Also, that one who sat up and his guts fell all over the floor.<p>Anyway, thanks for the review. I'm going to be steering well clear of this remake.
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST
by Francis Begbie
I always thought she had a giant forehead but no one would agree. Her forehead is huge!
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST
No I missed that one, but I do love me good zombie movie - even the crappy ones seem to have some redeeming features.<P>However even I had to draw the line when I watched this DTV 'movie' called Swamp Zombies, which qualifies as a movie on a technicality only - it does feature moving images. But honestly I could have done a more professional job with a bottle of ketchup and the camera on my phone, with editing done by Edward Scissorhands.<P>I reviewed it on my blog and the director responded, saying it screened at Cannes!
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:29 a.m. CST
Thank you! You are the best man. Always look forward to your reviews. I got a question for you though. I had heard a while back that there is a part in this remake that has a zombie driving a car, is this true? The vegetarian zombie (which doesn’t make any fucking sense) is bad enough, but please tell me that zombies can’t drive yet
DAY OF THE DEAD, the original, was lame-o. A fraternity of 1960s stereotypes (military/evil, woman/canonized) screaming limp dialogue. In regard to HOUSE OF THE DEAD, it's one of the worst of the "zombie" subgenre; a slumming Jurgen Prochnow looks half drunk/half hung-over. Who can blame him?
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:54 a.m. CST
by Internet Thug
is the fact he hosts his blog on geocities. WTF man?????
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:56 a.m. CST
by Franklin T Marmoset
I submit Children Of The Living Dead as not only the worst zombie film of all time, but also as a contender for worst of ANYTHING of all time. And I'm not just talking about films here. Worst experience, worst shiny round thing in a plastic box, worst mistake ever made while bored and house-sitting at a friend's place, possibly even worst job. It felt like a job to sit through that thing.<p>There I was, bored, flipping through someone else's DVD collection, and I see this thing that is possibly connected to Romero's films on account of the name and the presence of Tom Savini, so of course I pop it into the DVD player to check it out. What happened next was a kind of rape of my eyes and ears, maybe even my nose. I swear that film actually gave off an odour.
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST
I couldn't make it paste the first 5 minutes of that piece of shit. If i'm bored at an opening scene that's a bad bad thing
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:21 a.m. CST
Thanks Vern. Didn't Steve Miner direct Warlock back in the day? That was a great little film. "Kassandra with a K!"
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:22 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
that is the single stupidest thing ever put on film. <p>And I include the complete works of the Wayans Brothers in that.
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST
as usual, but Is ay that with EVERY review of yours. Anyways, it is really sad that we have all these different "of the dead" movies, it's also sad that I'm almost 31 years old and my first expirence of watching "Night" was the 90s version with the redhead stunt chick and tony Todd, good movie and a decent remake (thanks to Savini and Romero's contributions) but man it doesn't hold up to the original.
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST
Big fan of Day of The Dead, right age I was i guess when Reanimator, Brain damage and shit like that fucked with my head but i have soft spot for Day even over Dawn. New Dawn remake was OK in a quick fire ''Holy Shit!'' fast paced kind of way but that's not why i like me the Romero zombie films! I like the creepy desperate futility of it all more and that's emulated in the slow but relentless onslaught of the shuffling cadavres. Recently horror doesn't tickle me much! I want it to and i keep watching stuff like Slither and rented guff like Flight of the Dead in the hope it will have a tiny spark of what made all those 80s gore flicks so much fun but alas it seems twill never be repeated! even by Ol' George Romero himself coz Land was like someone elses version of a Romero flick unless diary is decent!?<P>I like the look of that new found footage Haunting style one but this sounds worse than dross!<Veggie Zombie! Fuck that!
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:27 a.m. CST
Movie starts with a little boy getting his Sea Monkeys kit and they bite him(somehow) and he turns into a zombie/shrimp and infects the world
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:28 a.m. CST
Romero's zombie movies, except Night, are crap. They are ponderous, pretentious and poorly conceived. The characters aren't so much written as drawn with crayon. Notice how the quality has diminished with each film? It's like he's trying to recapture the "magic" of Night but setting his traps in all the wrong places.
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:32 a.m. CST
...that Hollywood cooks up in its colon, this looks and smells like a turd. For the record, Greg Nicotero did zombie work on the original Day of the Dead (with Savini). It's where he got his start.
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST
by C.K. Lamoo
God, how many people have invented their own genre of film and seen so many third rate people jump on the bandwagon? If flesh eating zombies were dollars, Romero would be richer than Bil Gates.
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:36 a.m. CST
That's the worst one I've seen of the more recent rehashes.<p>Anybody ever see Zombie Nosh? Might have been called Flesh Eater in the states.
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST
I love the original and really hope this doesn't suck as badly as i'm sure it does. I put the effects in the original right up there with Bob Botin's in Carpenter's remake of The Thing From Another World as the greatest 2 blasts of 'real' effects in the history of horror cinema. Suppose I will have to rent it, but damn does it sound like a pile of crap...
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST
You know, I have followed this site for many years. I was totally shocked that none of the exhalted poobahs made any bones (or mention for that matter) of the Resident Evil # movie. Y'know, the one that htey advertised for in the corner all the time. And the more I thin about, the more pissed I get. Why? Because, if you take the template of this review, you can slap it all over RE:3 because it's a frikkin SHOT FOR SHOT remake (almost) ot DOTD! The whole blurb about Bub...indeed one of the greatest zombie characters in the movie....was RAPED in RE:3! I mean, did anyone care that it was pagerized??? COME ON!!!Does anyone here CARE?!?!
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:02 a.m. CST
good review,bad movie!In the trailer Rhames clothelines a Zombie.weird....
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:03 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
and I can't believe no-one's done this yet: Quorn of The Dead
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST
Flight of the Living Dead was not that bad. I was suprised. Now I can see your point,(it's not that great) but I'm a fan of any movie starring Richard Tyson. He's from the same city as me and lived about three houses down during my high school years.He's a hell of a nice guy putting up with me and my friends, our constant stupid questions about Kindergarten Cop,Kingpin and Three O'Clock High.I'll probably get drilled on here for name dropping someone from the C list but he really is a cool guy with a great sense of humor,not a Hollywood dick head at all. Anyways I thought it was ok for what it was. This DOD remake sounds like pure shit.I don't care who is in it or why they are involved,it just sounds brutal.
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:24 a.m. CST
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:36 a.m. CST
by Grammaton Cleric Binks
mine. You're no Day of the Dead. Choke on It.
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST
I thought that movie was straight up good old fashioned cheese. Day of the dead (orig) seems like the only Romero movie that doesn't take itself as seriously as the others. Now, if you want a zombie movie thats truly an offensive film, on the basis that it has no business corrupting television sets, "Children of the Living Dead", "STARRING" Tom Savini, is a true insult to higher organisms.
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:45 a.m. CST
He's in my town doing a private viewing of Night of the Living Dead, and doing over-speaker commentary, then QA after the show. (That sound you're hearing is my geek-gasm)
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST
much like you - I tried to watch- I couldn't take it- at least you made it through this film.
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST
by Nice Marmot
. . . actually has me wanting to see Children of the Dead! There's a LOT of shit out there in the zombie-verse and this one gets several votes for absolute WORST here. I'm too intrigued to turn back . . .
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST
seriously dude, don't even try. It's just bad bad. Not good bad. Then again I didn't see the whole movie, or even 1/4 of it. But it opens with zombies getting shot but no blood really, just walking in a field getting shot. and somehow they managed to make it SO fucking boring
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST
Don't forget to mention the sound. Its painfully obvious they didn't have any shotgun mics, which means there are either long expanses with no dialog (as in, when its a closeup, and they knew the ADR wouldn't match their mouths) or even better, when they do extremely wide shots, where you can't even see their mouths, but the ADR is so note perfect, you can tell they're sitting 1" away from the mic. There is no blood, no gore, no NOTHING. Seriously, its not worth anyones time ever. Savini musta had a gambling debt...
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:06 p.m. CST
very true, I think "My Dinner With Andre" had more action in it
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST
... Compared to the shitfest, boredom bombarding, brain-fuck that was "Children".
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST
i bet zombies would drive cars in that one
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST
It needs to be made. Classic line Lost Jarv.
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST
I remember hearing that too, that there was a driving zombie. I think they must've cut it out but I can't rule out the possibility that my mind wandered and I just missed it. Because this movie did not exactly captivate me. Hmm, I wonder if it was the vegetarian zombie that drove? And I wonder if he was driving to the co-op.
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST
I think we are slowly moving towards the "Zombie Rights" movement
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:43 p.m. CST
have you been reading the all out hate for Romero's movies on this site recently? It's crazy. I can't understand how people who supposedly love horror, can actually say that they hate the original Dawn and think the remake is better.
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST
And at the same time as watching it I intend to fist fuck myself with a chainsaw until my eye balls leap out of their sockets - in 3D green goo.
Jan. 28, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST
sounds like i should go watch that again.
Jan. 28, 2008, 1:08 p.m. CST
"The main problem with this movie is that everything is bad and nothing is good" - that one cracked me up. :^)
Jan. 28, 2008, 1:20 p.m. CST
Vern is the only critic in the universe that makes me laugh out loud several times during each review. Not everyone can state the obvious in inventive ways. Keep up the good work. Oh, and I will never watch this movie, because apparently it is bad and not good. I like good things instead of bad. So thanks for clearing that up for me.
Jan. 28, 2008, 1:28 p.m. CST
A deep story about zombie farmers attacking the cast of Hee-Haw.
Jan. 28, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST
by George Newman
the gore, the enjoyable over-acting/villainy of Rhodes and the Army guys... I love it all. <p>
Jan. 28, 2008, 1:38 p.m. CST
Man, I saw that movie at just the right time. I discovered the other two in Romero's Dead series just before Day was released in theaters, so it was perfect timing. I saw it in the theater and I was giddy with zombie fear and loathing! Sure, the actor's are chewing up the scenery, but is the acting very good in ANY of the Dead movies? I mean, I don't know about you, but quality acting is NOT what I'm watching a zombie movie for in the first place! For me, DOTD was an excellent and logical continuation of the Zombie mythos Romero started in the first two films. And Bub will always be the epitome of a zombie for me. Anyway, so the remake sucks; is that really a shock? And it was also reviewed a while back and that reviewer hated it, too...
Jan. 28, 2008, 1:56 p.m. CST
I know it sounds stupid, but the creepiest scenes in the original DAY are the scenes where people are just walking down the hallways in that shitty facility of theirs. Always gave me the willies for some reason.
Jan. 28, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST
You got me man, I do like Steven Seagal movies. I don't know what to say in my defense. If only there was some way to explain my appreciation for them, I mean other than a 300-some page, extremely well reviewed book currently available for pre-order at Amazon and other fine booksellers. I guess you win this one buddy. touche
Jan. 28, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST
With blood dripping onto her nude reclining body like rose petals? And is Kevin Spacey Bub, trying to remember what it means to be human by porking Mena?
Jan. 28, 2008, 2:06 p.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
WE KNEW THIS REMAKE WAS GOING TO BE A STEAMING HOT PILE OF STINKING LIQUID ORANGE SHIT. MOVE ALONG... MOVE ALONG...
Jan. 28, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST
That game's the reason I bought my X360! It's Dawn of the Dead the videogame, and I frickin' love it! It's frustrating at times, but there's loads of re-playability and it just gets better the more you play it. (and your character gets stronger) Nothing like wielding a katana to slice a zombie in half! (or a lawnmower, or a chainsaw, or...) I can't wait for the sequel to that game! (do you hear me Capcom?)
Jan. 28, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
p.s. Sherman Howard's performance in the original (real) "Day of The Dead" is the most underrated piece of acting ever put on film, in any genre. He should have had an Academy Award for his amazing work as "Bub", a dead human behaving with all the precisely observed nuances of an infant learning to use its hands for the first time. </P> <P>What an amazing, endearing performance, easily on a par with Hoffman's "Rain Man" or Geoffrey Rush in "Shine". </P> <P>But wait, they don't do acting awards for splattery horror movies, of course, do they? Oh well...
Jan. 28, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST
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Jan. 28, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST
i can't wait!!!
Jan. 28, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST
Thanks for "Prawn of the Dead." I needed a good laugh on a Monday!
Jan. 28, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST
and i plan on telling georgey to his face on saturday!
Jan. 28, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST
no problem, but I wouldn't be suprised if that could be the plot of an upcoming horror movie. Ugh
Jan. 28, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST
It does NOTHING to me. Not a thing. I saw it at the cinemas and own the DVD. I like zombies and horrors so I have no clue why it doesn't work on me. It's driving me nuts. I don't think it's bad, I think it's pretty well done, has great sequences, but the overall feeling I get from it is this: a flat line. Nothing. There's not a moment I feel simpathy for anyone, nor tension, nor suspense, nor the usual gore-joy, I don't even hate the asshole characters!! Anyone feels the same? Just the other day I watched it again just to see where this comes from but I still couldn't put my finger on it. Damn, I want to like it!
Jan. 28, 2008, 2:59 p.m. CST
I LOVE the "Dawn" remake.
Jan. 28, 2008, 3:11 p.m. CST
I hate to be that guy.
Jan. 28, 2008, 3:20 p.m. CST
I liked the remake, quite a bit actually. But it's only an action-horror, leaning more towards action. It has some cool moments, but it shouldn't be called Dawn of the Dead, that's for sure.
Jan. 28, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST
Jan. 28, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST
by Brians Life
Anyone have the displeasure of being at a buddies house while THIS was on? You wanna talk WORST zombie movies...look no further!
Jan. 28, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST
by Brians Life
DUG it, while much more shallow than the original...I think it played beat for beat a bit better. I love the orig. DAWN, but I just WISH Romero had kept the original ending.
Jan. 28, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST
by Brians Life
Anyone else wish he'd never changed the script. It was weird, but before I saw Dawn years ago I read the original screenplay first and I LOVED the bleakness of the ending.<br><br>Than I watch it and instead of the dual suicide, I get a BADLY shot football run to the chopper (complete with rah rah music).
Jan. 28, 2008, 3:39 p.m. CST
by Brians Life
Jan. 28, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST
"that is the single stupidest thing ever put on film. I include the complete works of the Wayans Brothers in that." Hehe yeah I was on a plane with Shawn and Marlon Wayans, and honestly I've never been more scared on a flight. One day God's gotta smite those guys. I'm not wishing it on them, but they're really asking for it.
Jan. 28, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST
So true. Children of the Living Dead is awful. I made it as far as when the four college kids die. Good thing it was on On Demand (Fear.net) through Comcast. If I had paid for that shit I would have demanded a refund. I once thought there can be no bad zombie movie either, I was so so wrong. I had middling hopes for the remake of Day. I really enjoyed the original. But this review put the nails in the coffin for me. Maybe if Zack Snyder had taken it up, maybe it would have been ok. Damn, a wasted opportunity.
Jan. 28, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST
All the money is gone.
Jan. 28, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST
............................. . . .
Jan. 28, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST
by Brians Life
I'm in the process of writing the greatest zombie movie written between April 2006 and now. <br><br>Did anyone read the World War Z script review? Sounds like the completely wrong direction.
Jan. 28, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST
It's a fivehead!!!
Jan. 28, 2008, 5:27 p.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
i just got that cos i've got a threehead
Jan. 28, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST
All time worst is NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD: THE 30TH ANNIVERSARY edition which raped the '68 release and appended awful actors to the '68 footage. Some douchebag named John Russo is responsible for this back alley abortion. Runner-ups include NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD 3-D (no wonder Sid Haig is exiled to conventions)...CHILDREN OF THE LIVING DEAD (Tom Savini, who played a supporting role in FROM DUSK TIL DAWN, has lost his dignity--and the film, apparently, lost its original audio)...HOUSE OF THE DEAD.
Jan. 28, 2008, 5:36 p.m. CST
Man ... you got your own show on the MTVs, and you were in DRUMLINE, dude. Get a new agent. Mena Suvari, on the other hand, looks GREAT for a continuing future in DTV. <p> (I will now add that I didn't know who the fuck Nick Cannon was when Dave Chapelle namedropped him, and I still don't really. Thank you IMDB & Google & teh interweb, for making me appear more knowledgeable on pointless topics than I really am.) <p> I'm fucking tired of douchebags who acquire licensing to existing titles, rather than just have the requisite testicular fortitude to release their own original property. It needs to stop. I pretty much thought that Sack Znyder should have changed the setting from a mall to some other fucking location AND JUST MADE HIS OWN MOVIE, rather than exploit concepts like brand-recognition and craft a "remake" that bears little if any relation to the original. <p> As far as the original DAY OF THE DEAD, I've been in contention with everybody I know forever because I love this movie MORE than DAWN in many ways. Vern's dead-on about Savini's zombies ... I dare anyone to find better looking mobile corpses anywhere. The acting IS quite often hammy, but the sense of immersion in a world bereft of humanity seems to me to be pretty solid. And yeah, the blue zombies of the original DAWN just don't do it for me, somehow. <p> Oh yeah, Vern - your favorite FRIDAY THE 13's are 2 & 3? I'm not going to dispute that they should or shouldn't be, I've actually never even heard anyone claim them before.
Jan. 28, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST
Some douchebag named John Russo, coincidentally, co-wrote the screenplay for NOTLD. (Yes.)
Jan. 28, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
spot on. </P> <P> The original Day of the Dead is pretty much the ONLY zombie movie ever that really does properly convey a sense of the world being gone to shit on a huge scale.
Jan. 28, 2008, 5:50 p.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
"Day" is Romero's own favourite of his 'dead' movies. He said so himself at a Q&A I attended in the UK.
Jan. 28, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST
by Brians Life
DAY is the only one that fully shows you the end result. Its scope is broader, while still contained. Scary fuckin' movie.
Jan. 28, 2008, 5:54 p.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
The thing with remakes like this is, what's the point of using the title at all, if you're basically just making a new (lame) movie with a COMPLETELY different plot, different characters etc etc? </P> <P> It's basically a case of name-squatting. They've fucking squatted on the title "Day of the Dead", and made a cheap piece of predictable shit that has nothing to do with the original movie in any single way. </P> <P> Now that they've used the title, it's less likely that someone will come along and do a proper re-make (i.e. Romero's story/setting/characters but on a larger scale with a larger budget)
Jan. 28, 2008, 6 p.m. CST
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST
by Brians Life
I remember reading an interview with the remake's writer (I think on AICN)and he was complaining about how he went to the studio with an original concept and they squeezed him into "Why don't we just adapt it and make it a remake of DAY OF THE DEAD. Yeah! Cast Ving in it, it'll be like a prequel". The idea of a built in audience is all that keeps ALL these remakes from being Direct To Bargain Bin DVD suckfests...studios know and exploit that.
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:10 p.m. CST
It was on one of the special editions of NOTLD a long time ago, before DVD. It was kind of funny
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST
The studios are very much culpable, in my opinion, but the directors et al who play along are complicit. <p> Of course, it's easy to throw stones ... maybe I'd feel differently if it were me & all that, but damn. I'd so much rather read about some motherfucker who said "FUCK THAT" and went indie, than see another crapass retread or "re-imagining".
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:17 p.m. CST
by foree forehead
typical of aicn these days where even though the reviewer doesn't like the movie he's reviewing, he says a bunch of nice shit about a bunch of other garbage that doesn't deserve a fleeting fucking moment of praise. original day of the dead was rubbish and even then it craps all over the desperate dawn of the dead remake.
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST
Nick Cannon dies, I hate that guy.
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST
DAY OF THE DEAD is a fucking classic. And the best of the original DEAD trilogy (though I'm in the minority on that one).
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST
Dammit Rob, why didn't you elect to say "FUCK THAT" to a multi-pic deal, and instead opt to eat out of dumpsters and film your next movie on a camera made out of old cardboard toilet paper rolls? <p> At least then your Artistic Principles would be intact. <p> Man, my glass house sure stays nice & warm during the winter!
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST
by foree forehead
well i'm in the majority then! hooo-wee for me. it's hardly a classic, it's nearly unwatchable. the doctor and bub shit is pretty cringe-worthy once you grow up a bit.
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:25 p.m. CST
And I'd been exposed to far shittier zombie movies up to that point. DAY OF THE DEAD is an important milestone in zombie cinema. Anyone who can't see that is probably too hung up on the awesomeness of DAWN. Though I don't like to generalize like that.
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST
Everyone is free to voice their opinion. I tend to resort to profanity when I can't think of anything intelligent to say.
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:31 p.m. CST
Bub & Doc Logan cringe-worty? What about Commander Ammo-Belts? And anyway ... so fucking what? <p> You ever watch many "genre" movies? <p> I've long since given up on trying to convince people that these are "truly great" movies. They are what they are. Some are better than others. Whatever. Go watch something "important", I guess.
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:40 p.m. CST
I feel a bit doucheish for busting your balls on genre flicks when you reference Ken in your TBID, but still ... tell me how DAY is really any worse than any other comparable film from the same general time period (probably some in your collection), and I'll ... well, I won't really do anything. But still. It beats blue paint.
Jan. 28, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST
Yeah, those are my two favorite Friday the 13ths. I enjoy most of them on some level, but those two are the best combination of energetic chase scenes, inventive gore and atmosphere (both the night time scenes and just the summers in Connecticut or wherever it is). Part 2 has alot of clever shit in it if you really pay attention, like the way the counselor at the beginning talks about not wearing perfume because it will attract bears, and then one of the victims puts on perfume right before attracting Jason. And I like the bag on the head. But my favorite is actually part 3 since I've had the chance to see it in 3-D twice. That's a fun audience movie there.<p> Day of the Dead means more to me than those though, and you gave a good explanation of what I like about it.
Jan. 28, 2008, 7:04 p.m. CST
...at the camp they shot FRIDAY THE 13TH at. I guess the movie scared the shit out of her because of it. Fuckin' lightweight.
Jan. 28, 2008, 7:16 p.m. CST
Jesus...It is JASON!!
Jan. 28, 2008, 7:24 p.m. CST
Jan. 28, 2008, 7:33 p.m. CST
The rest are just pretenders to the throne.. And ya for me I get to shake his hand Again at Horrorfind weekend in march. And ask him about Diary of the dead. Hows that for a fanboy.
Jan. 28, 2008, 8:09 p.m. CST
Saw that in the theater as well - speargun! THOWK! - and it was a good time. Saw House of Wax (Vincent Price!) in 3D that summer too. Then I had to spoil my 3D experience forever by going to see Jaws 3D. By the end, I was wishing Bruce would just get it over with and eat me. That shark was pissing me off too.
Jan. 28, 2008, 8:29 p.m. CST
Bush is such a smug motherfucker. I can't stand his stupid face. He's talking about how people need a govt that isn't in their business and yet he's allowed wire tapping of the public. He makes me want to fucking puke
Jan. 28, 2008, 8:42 p.m. CST
I forgot about that...the book was so friggin' good! Not scary really, but a really great socii-political examination of what would happen if zombies really did walk the Earth. Very Romero-esque. It was brutal and very plausible. I can't wait for the movie. (and the script review that I read loved it...)
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:42 p.m. CST
http://tinyurl.com/2msf97.The Zombie apocalypse is nigh!!!!.Get Ready.Lets hope it doesn't crash somewhere volatile.Franklin T Marmoset= http://tinyurl.com/33tj5o :).I saw an ad on the Shoot Em Up DVD for Flight Of The Living Dead,did anyone take one for the team and find out if it was any good???.I was looking forward to this one,oh well,for me the original is a classic,it's a shame they wasted the name and didn't rip it off correctly,it could of been a winner.I'm looking forward to Diary of the Dead anyway.Vern,best of wishes for 2008 sir.
Jan. 28, 2008, 9:46 p.m. CST
I don't bother to watch the State of the Union address. I know the state of the fucking Union. It's fucking shitty!
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:46 p.m. CST
That's the most memorable thing about Children Of The Living Dead, Abbott Hayes is a zombie that's been in hiding for 20 plus years, and then comes out to dance, and everytime someone sees this decomposed corpse, they immediately recognize him and scream his name as loudly as possible. It was a bad movie, but kind of fun to goof on. House Of The Dead was the worst, I walked out after 25 minutes, didn't even make it to the zombies. I didn't know anything about Uwe Boll at the time, I'll never make that mistake again.
Jan. 28, 2008, 10:47 p.m. CST
by future help
check it out
Jan. 28, 2008, 11:36 p.m. CST
...not BAD bad. Seriously, I watched the movie only because it was offered as a free On Demand flick, and because it had Tom Savini in it. It was a feast of hilariously incompetent filmmaking, and I plan on buying the DVD. The acting was atrocious; Tom Savini proved to me once and for all that he is a pathetic hack; and I had to masturbate at least once to the cute lead actress who was trying so hard to make something out of nothing that it got me a little horny. I don't remember her name, but she was the only person in the movie that wasn't an embarrassment to watch. The best part is that every time they show Abbot Hayes (the lead zombie) he turns to the camera and poses, as if his $10 zombie mask is some great achievement in film makeup. If you want to see a brilliant 1 1/2 minute clip from the film, go to YouTube and look up "Abbot Hayes the Jazzhand Zombie". YOU WILL THANK ME.
Jan. 29, 2008, 1:06 a.m. CST
If you want to remake day of the dead...they have picked up right after the boat made it to the dock in dawn of the dead(04). That the island was in fact a FEMA station and the zombies that rushed the dock were on the side of the island used as a holding pen. <p> The scientist on the island were looking for a why to destroy the zombies and ran test on them...bringing to mind Joesph Mengela's lab, until they find that the only way to destroy the zombies is a certain chemical weapon that is stocked at fort pastor. Ken and crew have to convoy there to ge the chemical and try to save what is left of the earth. <p> but I would rather that they didn't remake day, but if you have to do it....do it right.
Jan. 29, 2008, 1:23 a.m. CST
By far, my all-time favorite zombie movie... I've seen it a billion times and it never gets old... Probably because the characters are just as interesting/entertaining as the zombies... Maybe MORE? Capt. Rhodes is easily the best villian in a z-movie... Sarah is a great strong female lead w/o her strength feeling forced or contrived... Dr. "Frankenstein" is the classic mad scientist that has lost all touch with reality... Bub, Steel, Salazar, all interesting characters... Someone here was saying the acting was bad (and some of it is... The black guy with the HORRIBLY awful Jamaican accent) but I think most of it is perfect... Over-the-top??? Maybe, but the characters are placed in a over-the-top situation so it fits... (What do you expect??? People to act low-key during the END of civilization???) And that's probably why I love the movie so much... It's the bleakest zombie movie ever... I love the part where Frankenstein is arguing with Rhodes about basically what needs to be done... Rhodes wants to pretty much annihilate everything in sight and Dr. F talks about how they gotta keep order... Without order everything is lost... Humanity has lost... He has this look in his eye that is PERFECT... Like he's about to lose it, but he's trying everything in his power to keep his sanity (but you know that's almost all gone)... It's perfect... I could go on and on but Day of the Dead is damn near perfect IMO... The only thing I flat out hate is the score which really doesn't fit the mood but I'll let that one slide... Again, best zombie movie ever.......
Jan. 29, 2008, 1:43 a.m. CST
And "This baby was built by the Army Corps of Engineers!" James Karen is fucking brilliant in that movie.
Jan. 29, 2008, 1:49 a.m. CST
The effects, the story, the too big for our britches speech, I love that film. It's dark, no fucking pie fights there, and it's brilliant. Just for the record F13 3 is my favorite Jason, with part 6 being right behind it....part 2 is incredible though, one of the best sequels ever made...
Jan. 29, 2008, 2:10 a.m. CST
yeah, the Make-up and FX in Day are fucking brilliant and still hold up very well today. One of my favorite "bits": when the soldier's head is pulled off his body and his scream goes up in pitch as his voice box is stretched...sweet!
Jan. 29, 2008, 2:56 a.m. CST
Now that is attention to detail. That's my favorite moment in a film with many great moments.
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST
The sound that guy is making while being decapitated... I love Day of the Dead.
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:24 a.m. CST
Raiders of the lost edit button.
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:32 a.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
The original "Day of the Dead" is my favourite horror film ever, AND my favourite sci-fi film of all time too. It even beats classics like "The Andromeda Strain" and "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" How many horror films can do this? It's a masterpiece of bleak apocalyptic cinema. The over-the-top acting is actually perfect for a horrific scenario where ordinary people would completely lose their minds. </P> <P> We're sick of seeing horror movies where heroic characters keep their cool and make wisecracks after beheading some walking dead person, or witnessing some horrific scene. It's total bullshit and contributes to the desensitization of the audience. Nobody finds movies disturbing anymore, because cinema has gone down the route of Will Smith or Bruce willis, the un-fazeable hero who dispatches monsters with a sarcastic punchline. It's a fucking cartoon nowadays, and completely unrealistic. </P> <P> Anyone in a (hypothetically) bleak situation like those proposed in 'zombie' movies, would be COMPLETELY LOSING THEIR FUCKING MINDS. It would be worse than being in the middle of Vietnam or World War 2 or the streets of Rwanda. You would be screaming, raging, crying. It would be literally the apocalypse. But yet hardly any movies get this right. They always want to portray their heroes as bullet-proof wiseacres. It's a bullshit scenario that convinces nobody, because we all know that most war vets who have experienced extreme violence end up with some form of trauma. </P> <P> At least the characters in Romero's "Day of the Dead" are realistically freaking out, instead of just going, "oh look a dead guy walking, let's shoot his ass". Anyone who doesn't understand why it is a masterpiece is probably someone who loves stupid moronic action movies.
Jan. 29, 2008, 6:08 a.m. CST
Was Vern trying to be sarcastic? Was he using the fact that he wrote a 300-some page book about Steven friggin Seagal as a defense to my comment? That "book" is exactly why I can't take anything he says seriously.
Jan. 29, 2008, 6:54 a.m. CST
He was using the fact that he wrote a 300-some page book about Steven friggin Seagal to say that he don´t give a shit about your comment.<br> And Oasis of the Zombies is the worst zomibe movie ever.
Jan. 29, 2008, 7:02 a.m. CST
Has the most packed into it! What's not to love? The Gore is incredible, the zombies are funny, scary, sad! The characters are a cross section of society but not done cheesy! and the situation really feels huge and catastrophic! I loved the strong female lead and her unravelling partner and the soldiers are great. It has brilliant music and the dream sequence with the wall of arms shits me up just to think about it! <P>Love it! <P>Land of the Dead took the thinking Zombie thing too far I reckon and tried to recapture the magic that Romero nailed so well with Bub in Day and failed in general as the characters felt a bit less real in my opinion but there are folks out there who love it the best so It's clear Romeros zombie films speak to different generations. I like Dawn almost as much but Day was always darker and more disturbing because even the military were fucked! I hope Diary of the Dead can re-capture some Romeros magic because I think that the reason his zombie films are a cut above is because they aren't just monsters and blood, they have deeper social meaning and drama as well as the best gore. Romero and Savinni were a perfect match! I love Night too but Day came at me at the right time in my life with all gore blazing and remains my favourite Zombie film.
Jan. 29, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST
First of all, my step-father played a zombie extra in Day of the Dead. He is the fat shirtless one--no shit! He was a college student in Pittsburgh at the time and they used to get drunk and go be extras after they were done partying. Secondly, the worst zombie movie EVER may very well be Night of the Zombies. starring 70s adult film 'actor' Jamie Gillis. Holy shit is that movie AWFUL--AWFULLY FUNNY--unintentionally of course!!!
Jan. 29, 2008, 9:31 a.m. CST
Writing a 300-page book about Steven Seagal's movies is possibly the worst idea in book writing this side of Anne Coulter writing a book on hugs and sharing our feelings...unless of course the book is true bathroom reading and is actually 300 pages of photographs of Steven on actual toilet paper.
Jan. 29, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST
by foree forehead
..read like a sad littany of missed opportunities. i guess that's my feeling caruso and fathermcgruder, "day" could've been so much more. perhaps it's soul is in the right place but the execution isn't there for me. at least when i tried, arse-clenched, to watch it a few years back, maybe i'll try again. 28 days later is basically half of dawn and half of day of the dead stuck together and it's a fucking awful movie. i think the only one i enjoyed semi-recently was shaun of the dead so that tells you everything. as for a movie from the same time period that day of the dead is far, far worse than, hmm, videodrome?? nothing overtly zombie-like about it but there are similar apocalyptic themes and an undercurrent of facism that fascinates me. sure the movie is a sprawling, over-ambitious mess and, honestly, i wish i could say the same of day of the dead. instead, just a bit of a mess.
Jan. 29, 2008, 9:33 a.m. CST
The chopper lands...and it's the island from Lost!!!! Oooooo.....
Jan. 29, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
don't get me wrong, it's a good movie but hugely overrated among horror film buffs. DOTD is a lot more disturbing.
Jan. 29, 2008, 10:29 a.m. CST
by foree forehead
must heartily disagree, videodrome is far more plausible and therefore FAR more unsettling.
Jan. 29, 2008, 10:37 a.m. CST
John Russo takes credit for NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD's screenplay but most insiders insist Romero did "most if not all of the work." Seems to be credible if you've sampled dialogue from Russo's other (obscure & unwatchable) horror films. DAY OF THE DEAD appears to be the apocalypse squeezed into a bad one-act play (off-Broadway w/ apprenticing actors). Stereotypes & filler. The original screenplay would have kicked ass but Romero was denied the big $$$ because no one wanted to invest in an unrated movie. I don't loathe LAND OF THE DEAD as much as DAY/DEAD but it's a close call. As for Joe Pilato, the guy is slumming it at conventions. He tries to persuade young chicks that he's a star or whatever (he also appears rather intoxicated but that's open to speculation). Hey, why hasn't anybody mentioned the Fulchi "zombie" movies? They're not great but production values are slick and the gore is sick (if you're into that type of thin, to quote Ricky Ricardo).
Jan. 29, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST
Is a damn good movie. It's been ripped-off by many, many modern 'masterpieces'. You know what's a great flick for unpleasant gore? Demons. Also, the Reanimator. Who did the effects for that?
Jan. 29, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST
Well, is it? Does everything HAVE to be a remake? We're talking about a damned ZOMBIE movie here. A good premise shouldn't be too hard. 1) the story of the nuclear laumches on major urban centers. 2) The Zombie holocause as seen from the Amsh perspective. Nobody is set to survive the zombies like those guys once they conclude that they are not living souls. 3) Zombies vs the deranged hillbillies of Waziristan. THe world is full of crazy hillibilies. And the islamofundies would make for a bad ass fight.
Jan. 29, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST
by Lost Jarv
Day is also good, <p>Vegetarian zombies are, under any circumstances, the stupidest, most pointless fucking thing ever. <p>AAARGH run in terror, carrot, run.
Jan. 29, 2008, 11:43 a.m. CST
I LOVE reanimator, such a fucking classic movie. Love the black humor in that movie
Jan. 29, 2008, 12:05 p.m. CST
You all do not know SHIT. Atleast the guy has guts to make a film and to have the passion he does. All you fuckers can do is criticize and be GEEKS. Got your fucking Gold Passes for your next convention? Vern, thanks for the interview with Chris. Loved it.
Jan. 29, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST
My bad, that was meant for the TCM Interview. And I agree, the remake of Day of the Dead looks like shit. The original is classic.
Jan. 29, 2008, 12:45 p.m. CST
Good post. I have to say though, I like moronic action movies AND understand why DAY OF THE DEAD is a masterpiece. Also I feel I need to defend Bruce Willis, since his entire history as an action star stems from DIE HARD where he in fact is terrified and thinks he's fucked through the entire movie. He's not the fearless wisecracker type, he is the terrified smartass. But you make an excellent point about the tone of most modern movies and why DAY OF THE DEAD (original) stands out.
Jan. 29, 2008, 12:54 p.m. CST
I'm just saying you could think of a better way to hurt my feelings than to point out my proudest accomplishment. I feel that my book kicks ass and I almost want to send you a copy because I bet even you would enjoy it. I bet it would not only get you renting ON DEADLY GROUND and BELLY OF THE BEAST, it would inspire you to start working toward being a better person and not just some twerp who tries to bully a dude in an unrelated talkback.<p> I mean, what was your point anyway? You don't like Steven Seagal movies, I have written an analysis of them, therefore you don't trust my opinion, therefore you have pre-ordered DAWN OF THE DEAD remake and look forward to watching it? I think I win this one however you look at it.<p>
Jan. 29, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST
(That should be DAY OF THE DEAD remake. Now I don't win.)
Jan. 29, 2008, 1:03 p.m. CST
is Seagalogy still available to buy? I really need to get one
Jan. 29, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST
I never thought about Seagal before until I started reading Vern's stuff and now I've seen Belly of the Beast, Out of Reach, On Deadly Ground, and Exit Wounds. People like you just don't seem to have fun eh Knuckleduster?
Jan. 29, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST
the new edition comes out in May!
Jan. 29, 2008, 1:37 p.m. CST
I can't wait to get that shit!
Jan. 29, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST
...Because I'm a career military member, and you can sense Romero's hatred/mistrust/disregard for the military in every frame. One-dimensionsl? CHECK! Devoid of any redeeming qualities? CHECK!! Cardboard cut-outs who are less human than the zombies? CHECK!!! Hardly surprising in that Romero is an admitted '60s counter-culture type who knows nothing about us. Imagine if Romero had portrayed any other group (like, women or any minority you'd care to think of) in the same light...
Jan. 29, 2008, 2:51 p.m. CST
DAY OF THE DEAD is Romero's worst failure (as aforementioned, it's all stereotypes and filler). Romero's counterculture platitudes clicked in NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD (though the film's few societal subtleties, as well as its conema verite style, may be accidental or a fortunate "consequence" of budget constraints). Romero subsequently bludgeoned the "message" in all of his subsequent films. My fave is RE-ANIMATOR (its merits are all deliberate; Stuart Gordon is quite superior to Romero because Gordon, with tongue-in-cheek, plays it straight--he knows how to negotiate black humor). Worst line in a zombie movie belongs to the NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD remake (directed [?] by Savini). The heroine observes a mob of rednecks blasting zombies in an uncivil "shooting gallery" style. She turns to the camera (!) and says(referring to the zombies), "They are us and we are them." Aaarrgghhh--I slipped under my seat.
Jan. 29, 2008, 2:58 p.m. CST
Exactly... Where Romero could have made a great flick in DAY would have bee to capitalize on the fact that a military is generally a reflection of the society that creates it; as in DAWN, he could have shown two contrasting microcosms and left the audience to draw its own conclusions. Plus which, just on a pedantic level: Couldn't he have hired an advisor who knew SOMETHING about the military? Rule of thumb: If they don't get the haircuts right and no two guys' uniforms match, I AIN'T BUYING IT. Christ, would anybody make a movie about hippies and have then wearing Gucci loafers and Members Only jackets?
Jan. 29, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST
Listen, I'm glad you're proud of your accomplishment and you're obviously free to love Seagal as much as you like, but what I'm saying is this: It makes me question your judgement. Every time you write a review, I think: "Oh, that sounds good. But wait, isn't this the guy who has a hard-on for Seagal? And not in a funny or ironic kinda way. He actually takes ol' fatass seriously. He thinks there's merit to what that ponytailed prick does. But then again, Vern does like Texas Chain Saw. That's cool. But doesn't everyone? But, goddammit, he has a thing for Seagal! He wrote a fuckin book on him! How can the world be this wrong?!" ...Blam!
Jan. 29, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST
Even though I'm guilty of them myself. And, Vern, your snotty reply pissed me off and made me send another one your way. It was petty of me and I apologise. I'm sorry I called your book a "book" and not a book. I've never read it. That said, I still stick to my original statement: I can't take you seriously, because you're a grown man who thinks that Seagal is cool. You're just gonna have to live with that, mate, and I'm sure you will... When I read that you had the book out, I actually went out and rented one of his DTV adventures (Into The Sun, I think it was called. Can't remember). I haven't seen a Seagal movie in years. Well, I nearly ended up scratching my eyes out. Whatever it is you get out of that guy's work, I just don't see it. Sorry.
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST
Have you seen MARKED FOR FUCKING DEATH? It makes a good double feature with PREDATOR FUCKING 2.
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:29 p.m. CST
gotta stick up for Seagal here. The man throws pimps through windshields. If you can't get with that, then I can't tale your opinion seriously.
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:32 p.m. CST
is fucking great!
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST
And here are many dudes who like Vern`s book!
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:35 p.m. CST
Damn my eyes.
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST
My snotty reply was in response to your unprovoked attack. But we both got sucked into the endless circle of violence. How are we ever gonna get along in an underground base hiding from zombies? At least one of us is gonna be Rhodes. I think we have proven in this talkback that life is more like the original than the remake.
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:41 p.m. CST
that Chris guy you interviewed came into the TCM talkback
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:52 p.m. CST
Thanks for the reply, Vern, and fuck Knuckle ... I almost feel like I should buy 2 copies of the book now. BTW, my fave is VI: Jason Lives ... mid-80's as all hell, and the 1st incarnation of Jason as hulking zombie. <p> Worst "zombie" movie I've ever seen? Either Bruno Mattei's HELL OF THE LIVING DEAD (VIRUS) from '80, or Fred Olen Ray's THE ALIEN DEAD, also from 1980 ... wow, bad year. Actually, TAD wins some kind of award for Best Worst Dialogue (Buster Crabbe as Sheriff Kowalski: "They're deader than mother's day in an orphanage!"). <p> Also, just read in Variety that A.) Platinum Dunes is set to buttfuck A Nightmare On Elm Street, and B.) Mark Romanek dropped out of Wolfman ... thoughts, anyone?
Jan. 29, 2008, 4:54 p.m. CST
FOR RHODES, BUT ONLY IF I CAN ABUSE ZOMBIES AND MAKE FUN OF THE "SENSITIVE" SOLDIER.
Jan. 29, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST
by 300 monkeys
remake script was just terrible - and it sounds like they made a terrible movie! And why are we knocking Videodrome? Does anyone remember that when it was made cable TV had barely started, but it predicts with eerie accuracy where we pretty much are at 25 years later. And it's got James Woods and Debra Harry!
Jan. 29, 2008, 6:29 p.m. CST
Whatta hero. Hell, L.A. residents are still clucking over the night Seagal beat-up his (then wife) Kelly LeBrock in a bar. She was quite pregnant. No sense of humor, right? (Lorne Michaels pegs Seagal "as the worst host, ever, of SNL"). Anyway, everyone should support Vern's book--buy it right now. Or wait six months for it to surface at $1 discount stores-and buy 10 copies. As for Fred Olen Ray, did he ever make a good movie? I'm not being facecious, I really wanna know. He's currently cranking-out cheap "sex" movies for HBO or whatever.
Jan. 29, 2008, 7:08 p.m. CST
by foree forehead
nahh no one's knocking videodrome, even the poster that said it was overrated admitted that he liked it. but yea: the movie's terrific for me and one of the reasons is the one you cite. it shows us a warped mirror image of ourselves in ways that were pretty prescient and that remain frightening.
Jan. 29, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST
by Clancy Van Lustbader
Really can't understand the problems so many seem to have with it. It has some really interesting elements to it which marks it as unique. Yeah, so Romero had to make compromises due to budget cuts, big deal. It's still a worthy film. Love Rhodes, Bub and the Doc. Oh, and the ubergore, of course! I hate this current spate of zombie movies. Not necessarily that they're being made but because they're being made by completely useless tools with nothing to bring to the genre... and by nothing I mean nix, nada, sweet f.a. No horror, no thrills, no intelligence, no subtext - absolutely nothing! Who knew zombie movies could be completely uncool and gay? Oh, and Fluffy Unbound, where the original 'Day' is concerned I know what you mean about the creepiness of the hallways. There's a disquieting quality to the claustrophobic sterility of the environment they're in in contrast to the chaos outside. I don't know. Maybe that's the effect it engenders. It has a similar effect on me when I watch it.
Jan. 29, 2008, 10:12 p.m. CST
Up until we were introduced to Bub we had never heard of a Zombie who could be taught, all we had were those slow, shambling rotting corpses who had one purpose, to consume as much flesh as they could. Then Romero goes and decides to drop this shit on us and we get things like "Bub" and "Big Daddy." I hate to say it but it has been down hill after the original Dawn.
Jan. 30, 2008, 1:36 a.m. CST
haven't seen diary yet but I even get a kick out of the Dark Half. Hutton rules and I love Rooker as Alan Pangborn(though Ed Harris is better)
Jan. 30, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST
KosherWookie, I know exactly what you're saying about the original, I was in the military as well, but it's still my favorite zombie flick. I just find Romero's characterization to be more funny than insulting. Besides, the scientist was even crazier, and Rhodes did turn out to be right. That's an odd thing, Romero gives us characters that we're supposed to hate, like Rhodes, and Cooper in Night, but by the end of the movie, it turns out they're right.
Jan. 30, 2008, 10:48 a.m. CST
I can see your point, I just don't agree... And as Socrates said, 'There is no arguing in matters of taste.' My fave of the whole series is the original Dawn (saw it first run back in the day), followed by Land of the Dead just because it's funny as hell to see Dennis Hopper playing what amounts to an absurdist interpretation of Donald Rumsfeld (which he says he based his charcter on).
Jan. 30, 2008, 12:02 p.m. CST
by The Helper Monkey
I tried to tell you that it was craptastic back in May '07. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32568
Jan. 30, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST
... See THAT'S why I loathed HULK
Jan. 30, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
The only character in the whole story who is NOT crazy in some way is Lori Cardille's character "Sarah". She also happens to be the only female character. </P> <P> Romero wasn't trying to only portray the military as insane, he was portraying EVERYBODY as insane, in their own ways reacting to the fucked-up world. It's not so much a piss-take of the military as it is an affirmation of the sole heroine's sanity.
Jan. 30, 2008, 4 p.m. CST
If that were his intention, why does Romero continue to this day to say that he made the film as a critique of the military mindset? Not of the societal mindset, but specifically the military mindset. His words, not mine...
Jan. 30, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST
by Ray Gamma
as 'canopus' above said, he was in the military too and yet it's his favourite film of the genre. you can't say the miltary chracters in Day of the Dead aren't obviously funny caricatures just like similar ones that have appeared in countless other famous movies (look at "aliens" for example)... so on the surface romero has made an obvious "the miltary are a threat to our own civilians" comment with this film, but the bigger picture of it is there; the only survivors are those three left at the end who kept their sanity and humanity, and the fact that they were led by a woman was no accident, just like the hero of the original "night of the living dead" was an african american man.
Jan. 30, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST
Of course he can say what he wants with his film; just pointing out that I don't agree with his underlying premise/bias. That plus the fact that he didn't know enough about the miltary to effectively parody it (as Heller did in CATCH-22) makes the film less than effective in getting the point across. Like I said, it would be like me making a film about hippies--- don't understand 'em and don't much care to, so whatever I say is just about my biases. That said, DAY had the best gore of all of 'em...
Jan. 31, 2008, 5:17 a.m. CST
by foree forehead
enough, doubtful that your analogy stands up i.e. you making a movie about hippies vs. romero making a movie about ignorant, loathesome jarheads. plenty of the military are true to the archetype displayed in the movie. your beef is that, sure, they're not all like that. but plenty of them are. don't give me this "misunderstood military" garbage when you don't even take the time to ATTEMPT to understand people who claimed to worship peace, love, understanding (not that hard to figure out really).
Jan. 31, 2008, 7:06 a.m. CST
Wow. Just wow. Apparently your irony detector is broken... pretty hateful speech on behalf of the 'peace & love' crowd there! Anyway, we're discussing the merits of the film and not flaming each other. Thanks for playing, though...
Jan. 31, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST
by foree forehead
where did i say i was again? point is there are plenty of eejits on either side and romero's choice of portrayal is really not as surprising or controversial as you make it sound.
Jan. 31, 2008, 10:18 a.m. CST
Not trying to make it sound controversial; just explaining why I don't like it as much as the rest of Romero's work. Coming full circle back to the Socrates quote: "There is no arguing in matters of taste," I'm not telling you it's a bad movie or not to like it yourself; I'm just explaining why it's not my bag. No offense intended...
Jan. 31, 2008, 1:47 p.m. CST
by foree forehead
Jan. 31, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST
And now, back to our regularly scheduled zombies. Will probably watch the original 'Day' again tonight (it's been a few years) and see if I judged it too harshly first time round...