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Here's an interesting rumor about what Gilliam might do with THE IMAGINARIUM OF DOCTOR PARNASSUS!

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. With Heath Ledger's surprising and tragic death (a heart attack they're saying now) came talk of Terry Gilliam's curse. Ledger had shot a good amount of his work on Gilliam's new movie, THE IMAGINARIUM OF DOCTOR PARNASSUS. There have been rumors that Johnny Depp was going to step in for Ledger, but I thought that didn't make much sense since Depp is committed to so many projects, including PUBLIC ENEMIES with Michael Mann. Now comes a heads up from "Jerome" who points me to an IMDB message board thread where someone claims to know how they're handling Ledger's death and the transformation into different actors. Now, it's not exactly trustworthy... anyone can post what they want on IMDB, but this feels right to me and it feels like something that could have been heard from the Costume Designer. She'd be one of the first to know so she can get wardrobe prepared. The rumor is that at certain points during the film the main character, which was played by Ledger, fell through magic mirrors and, I would assume, into different realities or fantasy lands. The word is that each time this happens (3 or 4 times in the movie) the character will be played by a different actor and Depp would be one of those actors (which makes sense why he can fit this into his schedule), the other two being actors just as well known as Depp. This sounds to me like a great way for the community to pay tribute to Ledger's final performance. I hope it is true. I have a few strings of my own I can pull to find out some info on the goings on up there, so I will do my best to clarify this for you in the coming weeks. Thoughts?

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  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST


    by BetaRayBill07


  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST

    i hope so

    by Spaz Medicine

    the idea isn't terrible, but i just want to see Gilliam's project and Ledger's final performance.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST

    exclusive footage of the dark knight

    by Mr_X

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST


    by Sakurai

    Lets hope this happens.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    Poor Gilliam

    by EvilGeek1

    I still cringe when watching Lost In La Mancha. The crazy bastard keeps getting shat on.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST


    by BetaRayBill07

    I am the greatest first talkbacker ever!!!! Well, probably not. Maybe just for today. Anyway, Quint you're spot on- sounds like the way to go in terms of handling his absence. Could be really interesting with Depp, and anyone else they choose to carry on the performance.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    That would just rock

    by mukhtabi

    YES! I think using iconic leading men who have worked with Terry before, like jonathan pryce, Benicio del Toro, Matt Damon, etc would be rather a smashingly brilliant homage to Ledger. Rock on!

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST

    i dunno

    by Mr_X

    a detah like this has an effect on the entire movie. 4 differnet actors in the same role? you're inevitably oging to do comparisons. who whats to be compared to heath? better to recast completely methinks

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST


    by messi

    I like the idea of The Dark Knight being his last performance. Makes it that much more profound, but if this happens then it leaves The Dark Knight more open for recasting. Plus this just sounds like a cool idea, I mean if Gilliam already filmed all the scenes of Heath falling into these mirror.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST

    Mr_x you ass!

    by EvilGeek1

    You're lucky I've got a sense of humor. I hate that fucking song!

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:14 p.m. CST

    I wonder who will play Ledger's nubile young assistant

    by seppukudkurosawa

    This is going to be a new Dr. Who movie, right? What with all the regenerations and all.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Good save. Sounds like a decent plan.

    by Knuckleduster

    Then again, it could be dangerous. What if the Gilliam Curse takes Johnny Depp too... No! Noooo!

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST


    by BetaRayBill07

    Oh man I can't believe I didn't say this above. Jake Gyllenhaal would be so right for even a slight bit of participation in this. Guess he really is shaken by Ledger's passing by all accounts, and no that's not a Brokeback reference.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    This could work

    by albermarle

    Agree with Mukhtabi, previous Gilliam leading men is the way to go. Gillian + Pryce = movie heaven for me. This sounds like a good way to save the film and Ledger's performance.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Mr_X got me too

    by shatfanat

    Sneaky bastard. As for Imaginarium, it could be an interesting twist. That is, of course, largely dependent upon which actors they get to come in to accomplish this task. Depp is a good start. Call me crazy, but I'd like to see another character actor like Gary Oldman in there.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    I really hope they can save Ledger's performance

    by IndustryKiller!

    It would be a real shame to throw away the final footage of one of the best actors of his generation. Hopefully he shot everything but the magic mirror sequences so it will be easier for Ledger to play the "real world" version of the character and seem natural for other actors to step into the magic mirror versions. I just read an interview with Christopher Plummer in which he said they were going to Vancouver to shoot the green screen stuff, so that bodes pretty well if the location stuff was mostly finished. God speed to Gilliam on this one. I remember Brothers Grimm was the first film Is aw Ledger in where I thought, wow this guy really gets it. He was easily the best thing about that film.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST

    He's lucky he's doing a movie with multiple dimensions

    by TerryMalloy

    Otherwise he'd be in trouble.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Ledger was great

    by TerryMalloy

    So sad.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:33 p.m. CST

    Sounds like Quantum Leap

    by SpencerTrilby

    this could work.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    This is, at the very least, INCREDIBLY close to the truth

    by Brendon

    And it makes perfect sense. In the script, there are several scenes which take place "in" the Imaginarium, which takes us into a dreamscape inside the mind of the person who passes into the Imaginarium. Okay - that's a bad explanation. But I tried. Gilliam is almost boundlessly creative and he's going to pull this off with great skill and style.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    I hope this happens.

    by dr_buggerlugs

    Though The Dark Knight may well be a great swansong, it would be a shame not to see Ledger's work (and lord knows we need more Gilliam in our theatres); personally I could really see this happening and my guess is that 'the star fraternity' so to speak will be eager to lend a hand to get this thing finished...if Depp is going to be one of them, then my guess is we'll see two stars of equal status there as well. I sincerely hope Gilliam can pull this off and it doesn't come out looking like the movie equivalent of all the songs that Tupac released after his death.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    now that

    by MC-909

    is thinking outside of the box. Great idea. Too bad it came from a fucking IMDB message board. You know what I read on an IMDB message board? I read that Cesar Romero was considering playing the Joker again now that Heath has passed. Yeah. Cesar "I've-been-dead-for-fifteen-years-but-even-if-I-was-alive-a-statement-like-that-would-still-be-crazy-talk" Romero.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    Sounds good...

    by JustinSane

    I thought to myself that they could probably get away with changing Ledger's character's appearance if they wanted to go that route... I guess they might be!

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 2:57 p.m. CST

    If they can save

    by buffywrestling

    his performance without a recast, they probably should. A CGI or stand-in recast I always felt was kinda cold - like the producers just wanted to release the film no matter what. This way would seem more tribute-y to me. I remember when River Pheniox died, he had just been cast in An Interview with a Vampire and never filmed a bit of it but they still had the "For River" credit at the end.˙

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 3:06 p.m. CST

    This is a Hollywood version of the Plan 9 problem

    by Kirbymanly

    Heath is Lugosi and Depp is the dentist with the cape

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    guesses on the other 2

    by waggy

    matt damon seems like a no-brainer. as for the third, jake gyllenhaal seems like a good choice, but i can't decide if that would be too "wink-wink" or a touching tribute.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    im not there

    by duchuvney_post_x

    the truth is not out there on imdb

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Great for Gilliam...

    by Freefinger

    I mean Ledger was committed to this role and was happy to go thru with it, so why not finish the work he wanted to do?!! <p>Way to go guys for a nice tribute to a man who died to young.<p>I would even hope that Depp and the other actors would be kind enough to give their salaries to Ledger's daughter's fund or charities or Heart Foundations... They don't need the money, give it in a way to pay tribute.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Even if this is not true

    by dr sauch

    which it prob isn't, i hope the studio has the balls to put this together and release it.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Would work well if...

    by kingfisherx

    ..they've already shot the end of the movie. If they haven't then it'd suck to have it end as his final film and a tribute without having him in the final scenes.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 4:56 p.m. CST

    I thought this site doesn't do gossip

    by AnimalStructure

    What's up with them posting this?

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:07 p.m. CST

    TOO SOON!!!

    by Pageiv

    I heard Jack Nicholson will replace Leder since he replaced him in the Batman series! That's a fact, I work in the industry.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:16 p.m. CST

    Dark Horizons

    by kafka07 25g.php

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST


    by Quint

    It's from a TMZ story. They say early word from his toxicology report/autopsy show that he didn't have enough drugs in his system to kill him. And if I remember correctly the original pronouncement was cardiac arrest. I honestly don't care... no matter which way he died he's gone now. If it's natural causes (from stress and his chronic insomnia) then that only takes the dark drug cloud away from his death. That's a good thing, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    and spork

    by Quint

    It's called a rumor. Stranger things have happened. This sounds plausible and if it isn't, maybe the word of it going around might actually get the production back up. Where's the harm?

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:20 p.m. CST

    The Other Two-Thirds

    by TheBigChill

    I would recommend that Brad Pitt take on a part, and either Jake Gyllenhaal or Matt Damon. Pitt makes perfect sense because Gilliam has worked with him and brought out the best performance of his career in 12 Monkeys. Damon falls into the worked with category as well as a great actor, and Gyllenhaal could sub in for his friend, as a tribute to him. Thoughts?

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    If Gilliam and co. can manage it...

    by AnnoyYou

    ...gracefully and credibly, it sounds like a very inventive way of salvaging this film, one that might even enhance it. A couple of Ledger's films popped up on cable in this week following his death, and made me realize that I'd love to see his true last performance, especially in a Gilliam film. He was such a wonderful actor.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:25 p.m. CST

    God damn you mr_x

    by ryman7

    sneaky jerk

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:31 p.m. CST


    by s8ntmark

    Id heard it would just be Depp, but if it was Depp PLUS 2 or 3 other actors that would be AMAZING....I hope this winds up being true! :D

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:36 p.m. CST

    how about Joseph Gordon Levitt?

    by kafka07

    I always did think he looks like Heath Ledger.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:40 p.m. CST


    by 11dayempire

    Now get Depp to sign on for the Joker in Batman 3. What? Too soon? Seriously though, he's the only possible choice - the only one who's chameleonic enough to take on the role, the only one who looks right, and the only one with enough goodwill stored up to be acceptable.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:46 p.m. CST

    Switching Actors

    by Kizeesh

    sounds pretty Gilliam to me. <p> I can live with that

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST

    The other two actors: Kat Willams and Wilfred Brimley

    by HudLives

    Here's hopin'!

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 6:02 p.m. CST

    Dick Sargent and Dick York should be the other two

    by Uncle Stan

    CGI their asses from beyond the grave. This flick becomes a triple-tribute.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 6:11 p.m. CST

    Terry Gilliam

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    I hope this thing pulls through somehow. I've loved Gilliam's movies since before I even knew who he was (Time Bandits on HBO when I was but a wee lad), and I just get sad every time I hear of 'The Curse' ... or think of Brothers Grimm (I'm sorry, but it just fell flat). Man Of LaMancha was a great doc, but sad in it's own way and whenever I see that scene with Depp & the fish I feel like it couldve been a great movie. Anyway, I hope they manage to pull through this and IF Depp were to join in any capacity, I'm sure that would help investors to feel a bit more confidet despite the loss of Ledger.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 6:14 p.m. CST

    Batman 3 rumor SPOILERS

    by waggy

    i read somewhere (iesb i think) that supposedly the Joker was only to have a small part in the third Batman movie, and would aid in the search for Two Face (think Hannibal Lecter). the speculation is that this would essentially be a cameo and they could have him in the shadows for that scene. no idea if there is any credibility to this rumor at all, but it sounds like it could work to me, so i hope it's true. Nolan has said from the beginning that he didn't plan to kill the Joker in The Dark Knight, so this seems like the best possible scenario to me (well, the best would be Ledger still alive but you know what i mean)

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 6:36 p.m. CST

    It can work

    by Bobo_Vision

    If its worked into the script in a surreal and clever way, as it sounds like it might, in keeping with Gilliam's typical film styles, as long as they don't pull a "Game of Death" style look-a-like to take Ledger's place.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 6:38 p.m. CST

    multi actors sounds like a good idea.

    by DigitalBeachWar

    Kinda like Todd Solondz's "Palindromes"

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 6:53 p.m. CST

    so, Parnassus is a Time Lord I see...

    by lynxpro

    Hey, it's an idea that has worked for forty sum years, so why not steal from it? Just as long as one of Parnassus's regenerations isn't Tom Cruise because that would cause Xenu to declare war on the remnants of Time Lord society, and while Xenu and the Sea Org ain't worthy of being used to wipe Rassilon's bum and would be a quick mop-up in terms of an intergalactic war, it would still be ugly like Sandra Bernhardt is.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 7:23 p.m. CST

    Cast Val Kilmer

    by Mgmax

    He looks just like Ledger anyway. Also, I very much doubt the autopsy reports are back yet and TMZ knows anything.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Trik_Ster - "screaming buttload of money"

    by readyoufool

    in a gilliam movie? really? you think so? i wonder what "tideland's" BO was. I'm betting "imaginarium" will be closer to "tideland" than to "grimm".

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 7:44 p.m. CST


    by Vern

    Anybody else see the fuckin Joker ad on the right side, haunting this place? I always thought that was a great, creepy poster but now it's ten times creepier. You look at it and you think about the tragedy of Heath Ledger but then it's not Heath Ledger, it's the fuckin Joker taunting you for being "so serious." Same thing happened to me coming out of RAMBO and seeing that poster, now he's haunting the google words ads too. Spooky.<p> I hope they do figure out something like this to finish the movie. That poor bastard Gilliam loses a close friend AND has the worst ever luck for making movies.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 8:19 p.m. CST

    Just ask Mary Kate

    by performingmonkey

    Is all.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 8:25 p.m. CST


    by darthferris

    Although I guess they're kinda up against a wall here.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 8:30 p.m. CST


    by BurgerTime

    ...that they could use to retain as much of Ledger's performance would be a plus. I'm sure it'll be one that deserves to be seen, and he sure deserves the tribute.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 8:32 p.m. CST

    NOT from a IMDB messageboard

    by The Llama

    Quint, do some homework. IGN reported this story Friday afternoon, and the source is the British newspaper The Sun.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 9:31 p.m. CST

    The insurance company is praying this will happen

    by Bari Umenema

    Insurance companies that insure movies against any and all mishaps have nightmares about the lead actor dying in the middle of production. So they are going to be all in favor of this stunt. Can you imagine if Harrison Ford died in the middle of Indy 4? How would they get around that? Let Shia be the hero? Bring in Tom Selleck and hope nobody misses Harrison? Ledger no doubt passed his physical exam but I bet the doctor who examined him has a report on file mentioning the problems with Heath's health. Whatever killed him had to be known about before production started on this. I smell a cover-up somewhere. If he died of a heart attack then there are medical records regarding this.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 9:34 p.m. CST

    It couldn't have been a heart attack

    by Ye Not Guilty

    Heart attack would've been obvious in the autopsy. Autopsy didn't determine a cause of death, so waiting for the toxicology screen to come back.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 9:36 p.m. CST

    I get all my news from the IMDB...

    by Sledge Hammer

    ...because I'm an idiot. <p>Seriously though, this would be a creative way to solve a daunting problem, and save Ledger's final performance on film, so whoever came up with it and whatever the truth, of lack of, behind it, it's a damn good idea all the same. One would imagine though that it would take considerable rewriting to make this work, as I very much doubt they shot Ledger's scenes in any sort of continuity, so working around that problem would no doubt be a challenge...<p>Oh, and ten-to-one if this happens then Christian Bale will be one of the other two actors cast as the now metamorphosing clown.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST

    gilliam, that unfortunate bastard

    by occula

    quint - not to be a poo, but as a costume designer i can tell you he/she would under no circumstances know anything about anything. on LOTR ngila said the entire costume department waited around until like 2 weeks before shooting before learning about actors and characters, and then they had to basically ham-and-egg some of the most iconic costumes that ended up in the films.<p>doesn't everybody die of a heart attack? sooner or later your heart stops beating.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 9:57 p.m. CST


    by nolan bautista

    ..right! Its the opening scene in TDK..before the credits roll

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 10:12 p.m. CST

    Kinda like The Doctor, huh?

    by ZeroCorpse

    I guess that would work. It's one way to preserve Heath's performance, anyway.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 10:19 p.m. CST

    Hey Vern...

    by LOTGA

    The theatre chain I work for sent a mass e-mail asking us to take down the Joker "Why So Serious" one sheets for the time being. I agree, it's just kind of creepy.

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Dealing with the Joker problem...

    by ZeroCorpse

    Well, really, it's not so bad. I mean, they've got a completely different actor playing Rachel Dawes (and we're all grateful for that, because Katie Holmes has the screen presence of a weatherman) and they could do the same with the Joker. <p> He could physically alter his appearance on purpose-- That would fit in with his character-- and his psychosis could explain any difference in behavior. They could easily re-cast and continue with the Batman-Joker rivalry. <p> Now here's the real question: If Ledger's Joker sucks, will anybody have the guts to say so out loud?

  • Jan. 27, 2008, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Doctor Magurium's Wonder Imperium.

    by skywalkerfamily

    What a shitty title

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 12:07 a.m. CST

    ancient cool news

    by ironic_name

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 12:19 a.m. CST

    Daniel Day-Lewis as The Joker

    by messi

    he'd do it. The dude loved Heath Ledger and with the makeup it doesn't matter the age. i just think it'd be a great tribute, an actor like Day-Lewis playing The Joker.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 12:37 a.m. CST

    ZeroCorpse, not sure but YOU SUCK

    by NomoredirtyjokespleaseweareYanks


  • Jan. 28, 2008, 1:05 a.m. CST

    To those who're saying that it comes from The Sun...

    by Milou

    What's new in the imdb stuff is that the guy is talking about several actors replacing Ledger, and not just Depp... And he's quoting names of people involved in the film as sources... I know it isn't much but I want to believe. I wonder if the system of the character being transformed by passing through the mirror will be used for other characters in the film... That could be more "logical".

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 1:05 a.m. CST

    This sounds cool

    by moviemaniac-7

    And hopefully we see some more Gilliam soon. Hell, I was watching Fear & Loathing, Twelve Monkeys and Brazil a few days ago back to back and I want to see more of that! Would make sense to finish the movie in that way. I hope it won't be an internet rumor only...

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 1:12 a.m. CST

    The source was "THE SUN"??!!

    by BenBraddock

    Err... Hope it comes off though. David Lynch swapped leads half way through "LOST HIGHWAY" and that worked out fine. I still don't understand what happened but I loved it

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 1:14 a.m. CST

    Every time I see a Terry Gilliam movie

    by skywalkerfamily

    It never seems to make any sense.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 1:42 a.m. CST

    I read a rumor on a bathroom door stall

    by INWOsuxRED

    about some fantasy movie. It says that Crispin Glover has just been cast as Braniac in the new Superman movie. I have absolutely no proof, but it felt right while I was shitting. Maybe you'd better give this rumor a thread too?

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 2:19 a.m. CST


    by BenFerris

    That sounds awesome, especially if each actor based their performance off of Ledger, then it would be the ultimate tribute. I love it, I just hope they can pull that off.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Sounds like the worst idea since basing a news story on an imdb

    by GimpInMyPants

    Terry Gilliam either has to reshoot or he's fucked.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 6:03 a.m. CST


    by messi

    That's the terrance malick film Tree of Life.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 6:28 a.m. CST

    All this means is yet another crappy Gilliam movie

    by Trazadone

    Seriously, the guy made 1 or 2 good movies 20 years ago. I think it's funny that people still pretend to get excited at any news about new Gilliam product. I mean, Tideland? Brothers Grimm? Shudder.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 7:11 a.m. CST

    Wow, a writer comes up with an original idea

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    Don't let the rest of Hollywood know, they'll blacklist you. Of course it's Gilliam, so would we expect any less. I don't love all his movies, only seen a few, some are just not my style. But, the ones that are blow me away.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 7:40 a.m. CST

    Poor Terry Gilliam needs a good luck charm or something

    by purplepurple

    I sincerely hope this works. They could get three actors of very different ages and looks but have all of them resembling Heath's performance. Kinda like in "Im not There"

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 9:12 a.m. CST

    What if they do something similar to The Crow?

    by Stefano

    I mean, if most of Ledger's performance has been filmed already, maybe it could be possible to superimpose Ledger's face on another actor with the aid of CG...

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 11:07 a.m. CST

    Sounds like a good solution

    by finky089

    I don't know much about this story, but it sounds pretty intriguing.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 11:12 a.m. CST

    I bet Mr Ledger WOULD care

    by ArcadianDS

    if he read a story in a newspaper about some random guy just passing away in his sleep mysteriously at the age of 28 and leaving behind a 2 year old daughter. I bet Mr Ledger would read that and think, "wow thats a real shame. Im so sorry for his little girl." Sure, he'd then probably move on with his life and not think about it again - but to say that he wouldn't care. That makes you a ten ton ass, Mr. "I am Batman"

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    the three

    by jason baum

    Depp, Matt Damon, and Joseph Gordon-Leavitt, i think those are thre right three to choose, because of their talent and history with Ledger and or Gilliam. it just seems right.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Time Bandits

    by kafka07

    Maybe the little time bandits can steal that map from God again and save this movie.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 12:18 p.m. CST

    Sounds like a great idea to me

    by CherryValance

    Salvage the movie, and pay tribute at the same time. Christian Bale and Jake Gyllenhaal would be good choices too, imo.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Yep... sounds good, count me in.

    by alucardvsdracula

    Sounds better than just a cheap fix of crappy looking CG ala Brandon Lee and Oliver Reed.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST

    There was some incident

    by emeraldboy

    which has never been explained. Something to do with Larry Williams was some sort of go between Heath and his partner Michelle, larry's daughter. He went to visit Heath in australia and was called back to NYC for some reason and when he tried to get back in to australia and was refused entry. It is never been ascertained as to why. Maybe Heath was hiding his drug taking and he was using Larry as a courier. Michelle Found out. She ended thier affair. and he was having an affair with someone who could get him drugs. Mary kate is an innocent in all this and they are going to go after Diana the Massuese.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    It is not that Gilliam is unlucky per se

    by emeraldboy

    Studios run amile from him.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 1:59 p.m. CST


    by jesuschrist

    AND I LOVE IT!!!

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    a tribute

    by oisin5199

    that's a really cool way to look at it. I think this idea could work and would be a fantastic way to honor Ledger. If it works for Bob Dylan, why not Heath Ledger? Is Cate Blanchett available?

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    To Waggy. If its just a short cameo then....

    by J-Dizzle

    ...they could CGI Ledger in combined with the use of some old shots and have a voice actor read his lines. This is what they did in Gladiator when Oliver Reed died. The technique was quite a success, I didn't realize what they did until my fourth viewing of the movie. It would be a nice tribute to him to by giving the audience the illusion that Ledger is still with us.

  • Ha, made you laugh. <p>Although Gilliam does like surrealistic humour, so it could work.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 6:32 p.m. CST

    the best actors in hollywood

    by smackfu

    will jump at the last chance they'll ever have to share the screen with Ledger, even if it is posthumously. Was going to make a joke involving 2 shovels and a flashlight but figured it would be in bad taste.

  • Jan. 28, 2008, 10:53 p.m. CST

    you people suggesting CGI are fucking stupid

    by Rupee88

    This 2008, not 2208....sorry but you guys are either 12 years old or fucking idiots.

  • I think that it's the first official comment (from someone of the crew) saying that Terry Gilliam is trying to save the film and go on with the shooting... But Plummer says they will try to "turn Heath in other people and then use stills and CGI"... Check it there :,,20174404,00.html

  • Jan. 29, 2008, 3:05 a.m. CST

    sounds like a FUCKING STUPID IDEA to me

    by Maniaq

    sorry to piss on your parade ppls but someone had to say how FUCKING MORONIC it would be to do something like this! <br><br> maybe it's just a rumour and nothing more and if so then that's ok but anyone actually seriously considering this must be a few sandwiches short of a picnic - then again, we're talking studio executives so I guess that's par for the course really... <br> but seriously, SHOW SOME FUCKING RESPECT and let the man REST IN PEACE! <br> <br> Dark Knight makes a perfectly good swansong - no need to muddy the waters with some half-baked, poorly done, fucked up, RETARDED effort - the horse has bolted so shutting the gate now won't change a damn thing...

  • Jan. 29, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST

    Is there a documentary crew on this film?

    by INWOsuxRED

    It sure is starting to sound like a sequel to another Gilliam film.

  • Jan. 29, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Dylan should step in too ... as a return favor

    by joe b

    poetic justice

  • Jan. 29, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Tupac should do the soundtrack

    by bswise

    But seriously folks, I love Terry Gilliam. His movies don't always work for me, but they're a lot more interesting than 99% of what gets made, if not shat upon us. THE MAN HAS HEART TO BURN!!! I even got to have lunch with the guy once when I was a freshman at Occidental College in LA (where he where he started out as an Art Major) and he has to be my favorite, all time, BRUSH WITH GREATNESS! So, eff all y'alluns who think this project can't be salvaged. Instead, why not send your LOVE and SUPPORT for Heath, Terry, and all involved? That said, fer crissakes, change the title already. "Mr. Magorium's Wonder Emporium" anybody? Didn't think so.

  • Jan. 29, 2008, 6:37 p.m. CST


    by bswise

    No doubt that Heath gave a great performance, but Daniel Day as The Joker? How bloody perfect would that be?

  • Jan. 30, 2008, 8:50 a.m. CST

    Bandwagon jumpers

    by alienindisguise

    I like how quickly it goes from "Heath Ledger as the Joker, that's GAY" to "omg he's the greatest!" Lame. I do like the idea for altering this flick though if it proves true.

  • Jan. 30, 2008, 8:57 a.m. CST


    by Stefano

    Chill out man, I was just sayin'! After all that wouldn't be an impossible feat to accomplish.

  • Jan. 30, 2008, 4 p.m. CST

    by Sagescorpion

    The two other characters (besides Johnny Depp) should be played by Daniel Day Lewis and either Cate Blanchett or Naomi Watts.

  • Jan. 30, 2008, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Were that many people saying Ledger as Joker was gay?

    by INWOsuxRED

    I thought the initial announcement was slightly positive, and it get way more positive as photos and clips started getting released.

  • Jan. 31, 2008, 5:26 a.m. CST

    Digital Spy's reporting...

    by 11dayempire

    ...that Sean Penn, Jake Gyllenhaal and Christian Bale have offered their services. Which is nice.

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