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CAPONE Stomps Some Cityscape With CLOVERFIELD!

Hey, everyone. ”Moriarty” here. I’ll have my own review of this one up in a little while, but for now, it’s our man in Chicago weighing in on the weekend’s biggest experiment...

Hey everyone. Capone in Chicago here. You really have no idea what you're in for. You know who I'm laughing at right now? All the people who are convinced this film is going to fail as a work of extraordinary terror. Forget the title-less trailer, widgets and other scenes you've dabbled in up to this point. When you finally see CLOVERFIELD from beginning to end, you're going to wish you doubled-bagged your diapers. Just to give you a sense of the power of this film, it actually made me do something that I haven't done in a movie theater since I was a preteen. I yelled at the screen. I yelled "Run!" at the people on the fucking movie screen because if I didn't my head and/or heart would have exploded. It's a scene set in a subway tunnel. You'll know it when you get there. I'm not going to bother explaining the set up of CLOVERFIELD. You probably know it. All you need to know going in is that nothing is more terrifying than not understanding what or why something bad is happening to you. There's a moment right after the first rumbling of New York City, where the lead character Rob's best friend Hud (the camera man) is running down a stairwell along with a bunch of scared people and you hear a woman say, "Do you think it's another terrorist attack?" The line is almost lost in the noise and confusion, but it would have to be foremost in the minds of anyone in this specific situation. An explosion in the night sky, a beloved New York landmark beheaded, buildings tumble, and a cloud of white smoke and debris comes racing down the street as people run and duck into buildings. At that moment, I wondered if this movie would have been as effective without 9/11. Probably not, at least not the opening half hour or so. Rob and his pals race all over the city, often in the wrong direction, since Rob (Michael Stahl-David) seems determined to find and rescue a woman who is not his girlfriend but he clearly loves. The opening 15-20 minutes are all party prep and actual party for Rob, who is on the eve of leaving for a fantastic job in Japan. But it's clear just from a few fleeting shots of him with Beth (Odette Yustman) that he's leaving his heart behind. Character development is kept brief but surprisingly still gets the general feel for these young, good-looking folks who have some degree of bravery between them. But who cares about characters? You want monsters. Do you get to see the CLOVERFIELD monster in this supposedly "found" footage that has a nice Department of Defense stamp on the front end of it? You bet. But you know what? I liked the film better when you were only getting glimpses of the enormous creature. What's cool about the monster reveal is that this is nuttiest beast every created for film. And as you see pieces of it in the beginning of the film, your brain is working overtime to assemble something that your databank simply has no reference point for. Was that a tail or a tentacle? Is that a mouth or an elbow? You just can't tell. Much like the creature in THE HOST, the CLOVERFIELD monster is a bizarre and exquisite mash-up of parts, appendages, orifices and weird little things flaking off its body. Only this monster is even more impossible to conceive, even when you see it all in one shot. What you're looking at quite simply registers in your brain as an abomination. So does the shaky, hand-held camera work make you a woozy? It might. And if you know that about yourself, you probably will hate this movie. Get over it. Director Matt Reeves has a fantastic sense of what a person with video camera would do in these unchartered circumstances; and sometimes a person will put down the camera or turn it upside down, or run as fast as he can not caring whether the shot is steady. The visual style here is frenzied, chaotic and utterly authentic, but somehow it still gives us all the information we need (although maybe not everything we want) to get to the next scene. CLOVERFIELD is also a deeply emotional experience. People in Rob's life die, sometimes horribly, and there's almost no time to process these losses and still concentrate on survival. This is filmmaking at its most primal, but there's a level of sophistication at work here that I admired tremendously. But forgetting all the deep analysis and self-reflection, CLOVERFIELD, at its core, is a lightning-strike awesome monster movie. It comes and goes before you even hear the thunder, but once you hear it, you know you're doomed. You really have no idea what you're in for. Capone
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  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:39 a.m. CST

    first!!

    by disfigurehead

    Haw haw

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:45 a.m. CST

    When I saw Blair Witch in the theater...

    by taintyourwagon

    I sat in the front row and watched my shoes for about half of the flick in fear of vomiting in front of a full theater at a midnight show. I shall not make the same mistake with Cloverfield. Bring on the awesome destruction of NYC for the 10th time in as many years. But at least it isn't Norbit 2.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:48 a.m. CST

    So worth it

    by FeedMeAStrayCat

    That was a great summary of the movie. It was quick, brutal, and out of control. Loved every minute of it. The creature kicked ass, the effects were awesome, and the story held up. Forget those who complain, there was almost nothing wrong with this. Damn, I love me a good monster movie. Sorry for the chaotic jumble above. Just got back from a midnight screening and am still living off the high.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:49 a.m. CST

    IT WAS A GIANT LOAD OF....

    by theoneofblood

    Mediocre. I'm sorry but it was. I was really excited about this new approach to the monster movie genre but in the end it was just terribly lame and also, horridly unrealistic. The characters were entirely unsympathetic and made some hugely stupid and unbelievable decisions which totally took me out of the movie. If a movie purports to be a "realistic" or "situational" depiction of an event, even something as silly as a giant monster fucking shit up, you need to make me believe in what the hell is happening. The characters were all giant retards, with Rob being the worst offender. I could see they were trying to do "realistic" dialogue as well but mostly it was just VERY annoying with characters repeating questions and other characters not answering those same questions and looking distracted whilst the camera swung around like a monkey on speed. Strangely enough this movie actually did make me slightly nauseous, whereas the Bourne films did not so go figure. I don't know what everyone is talking about personally. I think the monster looked quite idiotic and also the CGI was pretty bad especially near the end. The worst crime of all, in my opinion, was the lack of tension. It was mostly annoying talking SUDDEN LOUD NOISE AND SHAKY CAM and then back to annoying talking. Look, if I was going to make this movie I would have done it in two different ways. 1. Had it from the perspective of a squad of soldiers with cameras on their helmets and then cut between them. 90% of the shaky cam would be eliminated, you'd have some clearly defined action/tension and the story would actually go somewhere. or 2. Have it from the perspective of a survivor watching the tape trying to piece together what happened. Make it some kind of fucked up mystery/sci-fi/horror flick. That would be way more interesting. I give it 4/10

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:53 a.m. CST

    Some people can't "get over" shaky-cam...

    by tonagan

    I'm not sure it's something you just get over, like vertigo or having your weiner bitten off by vagina dentata.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:56 a.m. CST

    Agreed Capone

    by cinemaniac1979

    Just got back from the midnight screening at Graumann's Chinese (practically sold out and the headless statue of liberty is out front) and I'm still reeling. So freakin' intense. It's like being on a really good, really long roller coaster. And you know what? I'm gonna get back in line first thing after work tomorrow.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:59 a.m. CST

    Fuck the haters

    by Mezzanine

    This movie was incredible in every sense of the word. There were several moments that I was sitting on the edge of my seat, and other moments when I had huge geek grins slathered across my nerd face. <p> The characters are great and they don't make any decisions that anyone in love wouldn't make. And fuck, that monster was awesome.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:02 a.m. CST

    8/10

    by armtv

    I just got back from a midnight showing...and I think it was a pretty intense movie. The shaky cam wasn't too bad. I would have liked to see more of the monster in the end...because I love monsters. I do like how they slowly revealed it. That was cool. The end felt a bit forced and un-natural in my opinion. Since there is supposed to be a realistic feel to the movie..#####spoiler alert###### I am not sure what your chances are for survival in a helicopter crash but the film kind of lost me when all of the main characters made it out okay...only to be met by the creature. I also got to wondering why...out of an entire city...they creature was always near the main characters. It was a great build up though so I forgive the few problems I had with the film. Having the camera being taped over the older footage of the two main characters was a great set up to help explain this relationship further.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Caught the midnight showing...

    by qemuel

    and I'm with you 100% Capone. Cloverfield delivers the goods.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:13 a.m. CST

    7.5/10

    by gigantis2000

    I liked it overall, but I really think it's more of one-time experience type deal. I really think I would have given it a higher score if the monster were not shown as much/as clearly; it was better when you weren't sure what the hell part of it you were seeing, as Capone mentioned, because the monster design is somewhat simple/not quite unnatural enough to really be frightening. Also, the CGI was generally under-par (not much under-par, but still under-par). Granted, I dislike CGI most of the time anyway, but that doesn't mean it didn't look too digital (even the explosion toward the beginning).

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:17 a.m. CST

    Oh my God, Oh my God, Oh My G--- my review of 1-18-08

    by BrightEyes

    The best thing about the movie Transformers was the trailer for the mysterious 1-18-08. Everybody was speculating on what it could be. Everything from Voltron to the show Lost was discussed and over the months leading up to this film people's expectations grew higher as to how great this movie should be. The truth is that the movie is really just as great as the trailer. What you see in the trailer is what your going to get in the movie except your gonna see a whole lot more of it. Now for most trailers this would be an insult to the film but the trailer for "Cloverfield" is not most trailers, and in my opinion the mysterious trailer that had everyone talking about it instead of the movie they came to see is one of the most unique and best trailers of recent time. There were complaints from audience members when the credits came up and to this I couldn't be more shocked. What more was the movie suppose to do that we already knew from the trailer it would do? I won't get into plot or characters but I will say that this is one of the most stressful times I've had watching a film, and that I believe the bar for horror films has been raised a level. This is the horror film that I have been waiting for for years. Unlike all the horror films of late that use graphic violence and gore to get you to feel something, "Cloverfield" uses great storytelling and creates a unsettling atmosphere. If I would compare this film to any other horror film it wouldn't be a huge monster movie it would be "Don't look now" a film that is so uncomfortable to watch that you feel like your own life may be at risk, a film so creepy that it transcendsjust being a movie and becomes unsafe. This is a truly terrifying experience that gives us a glimpse in what the world could be like by another huge attack be it by a terrorist or a crazy ass monster. This is what Godzilla should have been and what every horror film in the future should set out to do. MAKE US FEEL SCARED.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:18 a.m. CST

    IT WAS A GIANT LOAD OF...

    by Stupendous Man

    lion!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    What was the Explosion?

    by Rodo

    In the trailer and at the beginning of the attack? I am going to see it tonight, but am wondering what the hell that thing is. Spoil me.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:23 a.m. CST

    I saw it - I liked it!

    by Russman

    Fun and intense. Very well done. Make sure you see it in a theater with great sound though. I don't understand why people are complaining. It is what it's supposed to be, found footage after an "incident" in New York City. Grow up folks.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:27 a.m. CST

    Rodo...

    by Stupendous Man

    the explosion was the lion's roar! rooooooooooarrrrrr

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:30 a.m. CST

    The good thing about this......

    by boyblue

    Being released later on in the month here in the UK is...... I get paid and I can afford to see this on opening day, with a big crowd!! Should be fun.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:31 a.m. CST

    So the thing was trying to procreate?

    by warp11

    Just got back from a midnight showing. So when the smaller creatures bite people it plants seeds in them? Is that what happened to Marlena?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Shakey Cam haters -

    by Russman

    You people who don't like the shakey cam - do you normally get sick on boats too? A guy next to me liked the movie too but mentioned he had to close his eyes for a little bit cuz he was getting dizzy. From this to Bourne to BSG the hand held stuff never bothered me. It looks stupid when Michael Bay uses it to make people seem like they're going fast but in this and the projects I just named, it works fine for me and luckily I don't get sick or dizzy and I have no problem on boats. Just curious.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:40 a.m. CST

    The reviewers here said the same of Transformers

    by IndustryKiller!

    and that was an absolutely insipid film. So I'm gonna take all this obvious hyperbole with a grain of salt. What happaned to peoples barometer for good genre films?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:46 a.m. CST

    Saw it, loved it

    by Rindain

    The most original film in a long time. It does a great job of tapping into the primal fear of getting eaten center of the cerebral cortex, as well as the 9/11 anxiety and confusion. Will be seeing it again this weekend for sure.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:05 a.m. CST

    Excellent movie!

    by Hercules

    Scary as hell!!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:06 a.m. CST

    My name is FILMFUNK and I'm a MovieHolic

    by FILMFUNK

    Throughout my life i've been addicted to things in one form or the other. Like most of the folks here I started with movies, then videogames, then cigarettes, alchohol and onto your usual list of drugs of all varieties. Now i'm a middle aged bloke with two kids and a hefty mortgage my only vices left are Tea, sleep and the occasional theatre going experience when we can get a sitter so I tend to be very choosy about my drug of choice these days because i need to make it worthwhile. This looks and sounds like a class A trip! The first movie that propperly fucked with my little brainsack was The Empire Strikes Back then stuff like Alien, Robocop, DieHard, etc and this looks like it might pack a similar 'What the fuck?' punch! Recently I was tripping out quite successfully to I Am Legend until someone decided to cut it with too much of that new CG shit and ruined my trip! Fingers crossed this is 100% pure.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:09 a.m. CST

    The Star Trek teaser was great too!

    by Hercules

    They showed it twice at my screening!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:10 a.m. CST

    Fuck that's it AICN is run by total retards

    by quantize

    would someone care to explain how it makes the slightest sense (as in not embarrassingly retarded basic logic) why such monster would hang around just Manhattan all night and day selectively smashing shit up? OH i see! ITS A MYSTERY...oh and what's that? open the box and there's ANOTHER mystery! WOW you can call any shit brilliant with that logic Even God-fuckin-zilla is scarier than that phony fuckin Lost style bullshit. People in my screening were fucking LAUGHING yes LAUGHING. As for that cast of tragic casting central drop kicks.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:15 a.m. CST

    Video of the Cloverfield monster

    by hamslime

    Apparently it's been up for some time.-----http://tinyurl.com/3du77n

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:17 a.m. CST

    Beverly Hills 902 9:11 meets Godzilla Crab Witch

    by quantize

    ..throw in some starship troopers bugs for good measure ill repeat this ad nausuem because once the retard fan boys quieten down we are a left with a phenomenally dumb film using shaky doco cam as a gimmick

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:29 a.m. CST

    did anyone......

    by phalaughul

    stay after the credits we're done, a man says its still alive!!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:39 a.m. CST

    holy crap

    by drave117

    That was freaking FANTASTIC! There is not a single frame or aspect of it that I didn't absolutely love.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:47 a.m. CST

    I don't have a problem with shaky cam when it's used like here.

    by DerLanghaarige

    I mean, when they are trying to convince us that it's real camcorder footage. But I HATE it in movies that try to be fictional. Like 'Bourne' and especially in 'Battlestar Galactica'.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:54 a.m. CST

    capone, you girl

    by ironic_name

    the subway bit was fun.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Great movie!

    by Executor

    Scary and funny...crazy but realistic. And Michelle Trachtenberg is really hot (not in the movie, at the party.)<p>And to answer a few questions: the monster stuck around Manhattan because WHERE THE FUCK ELSE IS IT SUPPOSED TO GO???? CONNECTICUT??? You're really a nitpicker and not looking for a good time if you ask that question. And why the main characters kept running into the monster? Because there was an area of NYC that the monster was staying in...and that was near Beth's apartment. That, and if they DIDN'T run into the monster there really would be no movie. Would you like the movie more then?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6 a.m. CST

    I'll trust ya Capone

    by MatDGZ

    Coz' you sex me up. Seriously though, I dig your reviews man.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Reviews Range From 'OMFG!!!' To 'OK, BUT CORNY'

    by LaserPants

    So its a pretty safe bet its pretty good, but not the second cumming. And certainly not as good as THE HOST (aka The Best Giant Monster Movie Ever Made).

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:02 a.m. CST

    by ironic_name

    http://tinyurl.com/2trcb2

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:09 a.m. CST

    quantize

    by 5-15-9

    Uhh...I know you are but what am I? There are a few people on here that are in favor of this movie that sound childish, but the naysayers take the cake. 99 percent of them thus far sound like little spoiled 3rd graders trying to talk tough to impress someone even though most others know they're just pouting in the corner, talking to themselves. One day, they'll grow up to wear their wool caps on backwards and listen to Limp Bizket.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:12 a.m. CST

    Yuppies vs Giant Monster

    by Dingbatty

    I'm rooting for Giant Monster.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:15 a.m. CST

    5-15-9

    by quantize

    yeh goofball? say something perceptive that sounds like an IQ above 2 and i'll be listening drop kick

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:19 a.m. CST

    Executor

    by quantize

    this is the sheer level of stupidity we're dealing with. Name one wild creature that would just dawdle around in one area for no fucking reason. What you are saying is plain dumb. The creature is hanging around so we can have some more story about the cyborgs saving ther other casting central cyborgs in the crumbling building SET that looked phonier than a Jerry Springer prop. PER fucking LEASE. Even fucking Godzilla wanders off..really this is such PISS POOR fan boy dimwitted apologist bullshit

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Hey Herc...

    by TheBladehelm

    Just a little insider info, I work at a theater in L.A. and if you saw the double Star Trek that could have been my screen. It seems that Abrams and Co. wanted the trailer to show with Cloverfield so it came attached to the head of reel one. However, there was no "green band" so it was mistaken for the beginning of the film (as both film and trailer begin with the Paramount logo) and was not properly removed. Our bad! But at least it gave you two chances to see all the cool looking Enterprise being built shit.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:58 a.m. CST

    I almost went...

    by Tourist

    ...But then I didn't, because I had a stack of good movies to watch. Why, oh why, can I not find the time necessary to watch better than boring junk like this and I Am Legend. I miss out on all the middle of the road sheeple flicks until they get to video, and then theres always so many other interesting things to rent instead. Damn you lord for not giving me more hours of the day to waste of movies and videogames! And fuck you penis for devoting so much of my available time to procreational needs rather than simulating a vegetative state with the latest recycled pop culture treat. I think I'm gonna go watch the finally realeased Grindhouse instead, even though I didn't particuarly like it on the bootleg I watched. My room mate recommended Cloverfield as "Yeah, really not bad. Really pretty good actually. I kind of really liked it". Which means at worst its assaholic like Shoot Em Up, or just kind of inoffensive and lazy like Transformers. Hmmm. Monica Belluci has nice tits.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:02 a.m. CST

    the host

    by drave117

    Could somebody please explain to me what is so great about The Host? I saw it in theaters, and thought it was entertaining enough, but mediocre, and ultimately forgettable. Everyone I know seems to think it's a work of unparalleled genius, but I just don't see it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:03 a.m. CST

    Interesting comment in Onion AV review.

    by Tourist

    "If anything, it's a wonder that more films haven't borrowed the Blair Witch approach in the years since". To be a film reviewer, shouldn't you have to at least have been to a cinema or video store, or perhaps been awake, during the past decade or so? I mean, the found media, fake docoumentary material film has been, you know, kind of prevelant since Blair Witch. Which reminds me, what the fuck did I enjoy about My Little Eye so much? That film really sucked. I just realised I can't trust my own taste anymore.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:05 a.m. CST

    What is with all the Yuppie hate?

    by Oomlot

    I mean, what did the Yuppies ever do to anyone? And is there something wrong with achieving success in your chosen field at a young age? But one a different note, I totally agree about the subway scene, it rocked, hard. As did the rest of the movie. And I stand by my earlier conviction that the Bourne movies are sickening compared to the way the cameras work in Cloverfield. Tourist, you're right, Monica Belluci has nice breasts indeed, she's the whole reason to watch Matrix Revolutions, I'm sure you know that scene well.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:07 a.m. CST

    The Host...

    by Oomlot

    I didn't even make it to the end of that movie. I'm sure it could have been great, or something, but I just didn't get it. Give me Yuppies any day over some loser who suddenly discovers that he's a hero. A Yuppie would just automatically assume that they had that potential, and get on with the job at hand, Rob Hawkins proved that.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:08 a.m. CST

    The Host...

    by Tourist

    ...Was just really well made. Beautifully shot, written and acted, and really entertaining, thrilling, moving and interesting. But it was about a giant fish and the directors previous film was Memories Of Murder, which I had seen shortly prior to The Host...So yeah, I was more than a little dissapointed. But it was incredibly well made. But yeah, Giant Fish. Plus I liked the characters, so its not as enjoyable watching them die as it would be watching yuppie dickhead scum eating it. I know it really bares no relations, but Cloverfield really reminds me of Miracle Mile.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:22 a.m. CST

    Rob the Yuppie

    by darrenspool

    Hud the duffus. Quick, gotta say the slut! RUN! RUN! OMG! WHAT IS THAT THING? Who cares? Just run! (Makes perfect sense... for a pile of pretentious shit)

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:27 a.m. CST

    Don't forget, entering a collasping building...

    by darrenspool

    is realistic! Everyone should try it. GET THAT STUPID SLUT! Such ethics! God, as if.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:31 a.m. CST

    Darrenspool

    by Oomlot

    Wow that's some good old fashioned cynicism you have going on there, isn't it? If you had actually paid attention you would have been able to see the reason Rob has to cling so hard to the idea that he can save Beth. Maybe you should watch the movie again, as you clearly didn't get it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:32 a.m. CST

    LOOK OUT! IT'S A MONSTER! SCARY!

    by darrenspool

    But since it has no motive, no reason for being in New York, no agenda, no purpose to hang around when tanks are firing at you, YEAH, SO MEANINGFUL! THIS MOVIE IS ABOUT A MONSTER! What kind of species is a monster? Is a monster a type of animal? Sorry for not being a stupid fuck, but some of us need a tiny bit of info to fuel our imagination rather than sit through a mediocre yuppie rescue story in a 9/11 spin-off.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:34 a.m. CST

    Interesting idea but not remotely scary

    by Seth Gecko

    The Host is an amazing film because it is so offbeat and original. Cloverfield is a lot of fun but to overhype it is dangerous. This review shows complete overexcitement before thought. Telling your reader's they should 'Get over it' is proof positive of the arrogance this site has on occasions. The camerawork is about as authentic as the george Foreman Grill. You want to see authentic camerawrork check out Gaspar Noe's Irreversible. Now that is a film with something to say about the ridiculous and crappy revenge films Hollywood churns out year in year out. Caustic, virtuoso in it's execution, and utterly unforgettable.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:35 a.m. CST

    Let's all risk our life and enter a collasping building

    by darrenspool

    Yeh, I mean, as if buildings collapse in New York anyway.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:37 a.m. CST

    printing this out now

    by palewook

    so i can wipe my ass on it. no more cloverfield coverage please. was sick of it last month. enough already. please....

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:39 a.m. CST

    Exploding Spider Bite?

    by darrenspool

    A sea creature with the ability to roar? A sea creature with the inability to take a hint and return to the ocean? Yeh, such questions don't need any thought! Let's just write another masturbatory review.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:42 a.m. CST

    Seth

    by Oomlot

    Actually I'm part of the 'get over it' school of thought. For shaky cam, yes, it can and should be gotten over, unless you're watching a Bourne movie, in which case the creators should be hunted down and beaten to death with their wobbly cameras. At least in Cloverfield there is a reason for all the wobble.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:46 a.m. CST

    Keep convincing yourselves it was awesome

    by darrenspool

    Face it, monster's continuity and purpose was completely incoherent and the ending was totally unpalatable.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:47 a.m. CST

    theoneofblood

    by thecheesegrommit

    I love it! it never fails. There is always at least one (often more) who don't like a movie and then proceed to explain how they would have done it. Ha Ha Ha. I love that. Well "theoneofblood" I can't wait to see your great master piece. Good luck. Cloverfield was rock solid movie making. That's MY opinion. Another thing some should remember when dealing in absolutes ie. "this isn't realistic blah blah, no one would do that blah blah" You would have to know everyone on this planet to make that "blanket" statement. I for one know a few people types that were presented in this story. Lets fight absolutes people fight ignorance. Carry one.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW! Too Soon!

    by dee_hunter316

    The movie opens by telling us that the following footage was recovered from the site formerly known as Central Park. Rob's (Michael Stahl-David) friends are having a going away party for him. Beth (Odette Yustman) Rob's love shows up to the party with a guy friend, she leaves to go back to her apartment early. The party is still rockin', then chaos as the lights go out. Everyone goes up to the roof to see what happened. Classic rooftop scene from the trailer (huge fire ball and monster movement in the distance taking down a skyscraper). Everyone decides to leave the city (Manhattan) so they go on the bridge, (its Rob, his brother Jason, his brothers fiance Lily, Hud the cameraman, and Marlena, Hud's interest.) They make it to the middle of the bridge. More roaring and pounding happen. As Jason climbs on the side of the bridge up on the supports to see what's going on, a HUGE tail smashes the bridge and Jason with it. The group finds their way off the bridge and into some tunnels. They figure they will go to Beth's apartment (she called Rob earlier while they were on the bridge - asking for help). Through the tunnels that are now shut down and after some walking and funny commentary by Hud they hear some odd noises. The nightvision on the camera comes on and mini monsters are on the ceiling of the tunnel. They run the way they came only to have Marlena get bitten, but she survives. They now find their way into what looks like a department store taken over by military planning and triage centers. Rob is constantly telling the army personnel that he is going to go to his friend Beth's apartment. Hud pans to several of the wounded and dead, then hears Marlena say something to the effect of she doesn't feel too good. Her eyes are bleeding and this alarms a few people in biohazard suits and they immediately start screaming BITE BITE and take her behind a curtain where you can see their silhouette. She doubles over and then explodes literally with blood splattering the curtain. The military guy takes Rob, Lily and Hud, down a back room to a door telling them if they want to find their friend they have till about 0600 hours until Operation Hammerdown commences (Leveling the city). They are now back on the street and find the apartment buildings in the distance. The building to the right is literally LEANING on the building to the left. Sucky for them, Beth lives in the half fallen over building. They decide to walk the stairs 50+ floors in the left building where they find an opening to the leaning building. They find Beth and she is impaled in her upper left shoulder by a piece of metal. They lift her up off the spike and make their way back to the building they came in. Mini monster attack but no injuries or deaths. They now make their way to the base where the military guy in the department store told them to meet helicopters and to leave before the Operation Hammerdown starts. Lily gets in the helicopter but there is not enough room for Hud, Rob, or Beth, so they get in another helicopter. Lily's takes off and the rest lift off and start flying away. They see the monster causing havoc down below, and then a stealth bomber way above them drop a series of bombs which directly hits the monster. They can't see anything because of the smoke. Hud says they got the monster and just as he is celebrating, the monster quickly rises up and takes out their helicopter. Waking up now in the daylight morning time (everything else was night), hurt but still alive are the three survivors of the crash. They crawl out of the wreckage, shocked to be alive and inspect their injuries. Hud looks for the camera and finds it and as he does, Beth and Rob are scared to death and staring right behind Hud. Hud turns around and is now under the HUGE monster, who gives a roar and eats Hud, who drops the camera. Rob picks up the camera, runs with Beth through Central Park and under a bridge then turns the camera on himself and says his goodbyes to anyone that will find it. It's now 6:42am and Rob turns the camera on Beth. She doesn't know what to say. A couple bombs come and level the bridge, and the camera is now under rubble so you can't see either person. You can just hear them. Rob tells Beth he loves her...she says she loves him. Immediately after she says it more bombs explode on them and we are left to assume that they killed them. *as to the monsters...I counted 5 legs, sometimes walked biped sometimes walked on all 5, really indescribable. Charlie adds: I think that it is very important to note the final few seconds of the film, particularly as the camera is fixed out to the ocean at Coney Island...If you look at the ocean, out in the distant on the right hand side, you can see “something” crash into the water at a very steep angle. I believe that this is the monster.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    darrenspool

    by thecheesegrommit

    please see my above theoneofblood post. thank you that is all.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:48 a.m. CST

    BUT IS IT A LION?

    by Pennsy

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:49 a.m. CST

    Darrenspool

    by Oomlot

    Maybe it was smarter than you're giving it credit, or maybe it was just plain pissed off. I mean, it's entirely possible that crazy Japanese businessmen have been stealing its royal jelly and putting it into a tasty beverage Slurm style, and it was tired of the treatment. Also, have you ever seen an injured wild animal? They don't tend to think things out, so much as smash every damn thing within their range. I hope that helps you a little...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    Abrams-Controlled Meat Puppet Reviewers

    by Aquatarkusman

    "What's cool about the monster reveal is that this is nuttiest beast every created for film." For some reason this reminds of Kent Brockman's "Ladies and gentlemen, I've been to Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan, and I can say without hyperbole that this is a million times worse than all of them put together."

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:50 a.m. CST

    I'm going to see it tomorrow morning at 10AM...

    by Pennsy

    I'm saying this because I had the opportunity to score a free pass to a screening of Over Her Dead Body, the new Eva Longoria-Parker romcom, but I thought I'd better save my first review for Cloverfield instead. ;)

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:54 a.m. CST

    JJ is at it again...

    by Darth Kong

    At the very end of the credits…a noise can be heard…clip below http://tinyurl.com/2ov27h ….when that clip is played backwards….well, listen… http://tinyurl.com/2gg6sf

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    Wow, Now He's Like ELO or Black Sabbath

    by Aquatarkusman

    What clever things wiil he think of next?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:57 a.m. CST

    darrenspool

    by thecheesegrommit

    did you ever think past your small world to grasp that the movie was trying to show what would happen if we were faced with an incomprehensible creature that does things that we can't comprehend hmmm that would be frustrating and confusing maybe even scary? Me thinks you wouldn't do to well in said situation, hmmmm.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:02 a.m. CST

    Predator vs Cloverfield vs Aliens vs Transformers

    by dee_hunter316

    come on, same crap acting in all of them. they go together like peas a dog crap

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:07 a.m. CST

    darrenspool

    by thecheesegrommit

    Wow! I hadn't realized how many posts you had above. I'm starting to get the full picture. I wouldn't be surprised if i read you had strapped on a few guns and a black trench coat and entered a school. (legal disclaimer: That's CrAZy and I don't advocate it) but when you and others rail against "yuppies" rescue mission...yeaaah... that would be weird to find a "yuppie" in Manhattan and then to focus a story on them...yeaaah...hmmmm. Oh yeah Oh yeah! one more thing, huh? I never heard of some one running into a build to rescue someone they love, oh wait yes I have a couple dozen times (at least) while growing up in NYC. Sheesh you are sheltered. Peace.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:07 a.m. CST

    Can't Wait to See It

    by BilboRing

    Fuck the haters. Hope to see it this weekend.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:13 a.m. CST

    Damn you UK release Date

    by puzzledman69

    It doesn't come out here till 1st Feb. Can't tell you how annoying that is If I only see this and Dark Knight this Year I'll be happy

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:13 a.m. CST

    I Am Hating On People...

    by Aquatarkusman

    ... who lamely, predictably, tiredly say "fuck the haters." There must be another level of irony we can add here.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:15 a.m. CST

    Like a Universal Ride On Crack!

    by rsdigi

    1. Ignore the critics, but go in and lower your hype. True there is weak dialogue, but as a popcorn movie this really works. You won’t care for the characters, and wish you could, but when someone gets offed and you go “HE got killed already!?” It makes up for it. 2. You HAVE NOT seen the monster yet. The final version has not been leaked. Yes it is creepy, the way it moves is awesome. This movie is not scary, it is more thrilling. They glances you first get of the creature make the crave for more. Like I said it’s not scary. Rember in the Blair Witch when Heather was screaming, “What the fuck is that!” Now that was scary, this is just creepy and thrilling. 3. The whole time I was watching I felt like I was on the best thrill ride ever. It was like all of Universal’s rides on crack. An awesome rescue scene had me white-knuckled. You are hooked in, wondering what’s going to happen next. 4. The camera man, Hud is awesome. He has some great lines. Think Hudson from “Aliens”. A line to look for: “It’s a terrible thing” “What is that!” “Something else, also terrible” LOL. 5. The movie works because of its “Blair Witch” hand held camcorder style. Had this been filmed like a tradional Hollywood movie it would have failed. But from the viewpoint of a few of the ants the monster is stepping on, it totally works.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:24 a.m. CST

    the end

    by dee_hunter316

    everybody dies, monster lives. cloverfield two

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:27 a.m. CST

    Aqua...whatever the fuck your name is

    by puzzledman69

    The only thing predictable is on this site is whenever Harry and co give a good review on something a bunch of fuckwit talkbackers arrive and say it's shit, possibly as an attempt to prove their intellectual superiority. Now I'm not saying the haters are wrong about this film. I havn't seen it yet, but I'm more likely to take someone like Harry's word for it than a retarded talkbacker that hates everything anyone else has heard of.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:28 a.m. CST

    We saw the midnight show...

    by DuncanHines

    It was good enough. I do want to see it again though...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:35 a.m. CST

    so is this the monster

    by Shakes

    http://my.break.com/cont ent/view.aspx?Cont entID=435291

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:36 a.m. CST

    haters

    by dee_hunter316

    not a hater, i am an idiot, no intellect, but this movie did suck a golf ball through a garden hose. everybody dies, monster lives, cloverfield 2

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:36 a.m. CST

    "This is filmmaking at its most primal"?

    by Sad_Lieutenant

    While I have come to expect the not-infrequent dose of this caliber of teen-stoner hyperbole from AICN, the statement above simply does not make sense. "Filmmaking at its most primal"? Shakey hand-held shots or no, if you elicit a rampant use of green screens, a gigantic fucking CG godzilla, and the Lost dude to make a film, then it is a little beyond credulity-straining to suggest that this process is "primal". And while the term "primal" is essentially meaningless in describing pretty much any such process, I would dare suggest that Werner Herzog pulling a steam-boat over a mountain is more in the direction of "primal" than vapid hipsters getting all fucked up Rampage-style.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    BoxofficeGuru is predicting only a 30M opening weekend?

    by Pennsy

    I'll say it'll be closer to 50m; it's on 3200 screens, its less than 90-minute running time will allow up to 6 screenings per theater/per day.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:38 a.m. CST

    What's cool about the monster reveal is that this is nuttiest be

    by zom-bot.com

    (ignoring the poor grammar) even nuttier than the nutty professor? even nuttier than the other monsters it looks like?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST

    beautiful people

    by dee_hunter316

    it wasn't even fun watching the beautiful people die. the movie sucked that bad, really

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:39 a.m. CST

    i was making fun of capone's grammar

    by zom-bot.com

    in that last post, but forgot to quote it. so that shitty subject line is ALL HIS and not mine.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:42 a.m. CST

    seriously

    by dee_hunter316

    i was wondering the whole time if they were going to reveal that this was just some kid's dumb student art film. i thought the real movie might start soon, but lost all hope of that happening pretty quick. in the name of the king was a better movie than this

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:50 a.m. CST

    thecheesegrommit

    by darrenspool

    It's a movie from the perspective of confused people, yeah, I know, and it's a movie without closure. If I wanted to participate in a film without answers, I wouldn't need to go - I'd just listen to the hype and not ever go. How can I enjoy it? That is the fundamental question. Why see Cloverfield if you're as clueless about it after you leave as you were before you saw it? It wasn't a scary movie. It was a provocative movie, investing in a mystery to get us into the fucking cinema and letting us leave with NOTHING!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:53 a.m. CST

    'a godzilla for america' and other failures

    by zom-bot.com

    i think i read that they described cloverfield as 'attempting to make and capture the energy of godzilla' but for an american audience.<P>from even the glowingest reviews i'd say that's a bust.<P> Godzilla is an icon. even before all the sequels and reboots, godzilla was something that inspired such awe and scale and mystery- even with shitty production value. more than that, godzilla was a thing you could sink your teeth into- a creature you saw from every angle- you liked what you saw, you wanted a toy, a lunchbox. you respected and feared the big green monster at the same time.<P>will cloverfield's nameless monster x ever, ever, EVER gain that following? Nope. it just doesn't inspire it. If this movie had been made without all the hype and mystery or all the promises of awesome, i think we'd all view it as a good monster movie. but they should have not been so arrogantly proud of it that they promised us christmas and gave us saint patrick's day. <P> if there are sequels- and i'm sure there will be- they will be based on ticket sales that were tricked by hype for the first one, and the 'jj can do no wrong' attitude of his funders.<P> furthermore, i think we could respect the allusions to 9/11 if i could read definate quotes from thwem admitting it was inspiration. from all i find, that is no where- and that is insulting. if this truly is an american godzilla, at least the japanese could admit that godzilla was a response to hiroshima.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    My advice for Cloverfield...

    by EvilGeek1

    Screw whoever down-talks this movie. Go and see it for yourself. Don't take their word for it. They could have their head up their ass for all you know! There's going to be a fuck-load of negative talkback tonight, even from people who secretly loved it, because they get a kick out of thinking they ruined a movie for someone. Don't let their opinions stigma your taste in movies. And even though Harry, Massawrym and now Capone gave it great reviews, I'm still going to find out for myself. Who knows, I might even hate it and I'm quivering with excitement to see it! Being a movie freak/geek/nerd is all about watching the actual movies themselves and not going off hear-say. I commend those who've remained objective about this movie and haven't jumped on the Bandwagon Of Death!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:56 a.m. CST

    I'm Looking Forward to it

    by TheLastCleric

    But the hyperbole really is a bit much. I have zero anticipation that this film is going to scare me at all; rather I simply want something that is entertaining and unique which this looks to be. At the same time I think all the talk of Cloverfield being some sort of seminal, watershed film is nonsense and rather such professions are merely a knee-jerk reaction to people really enjoying the film. I would like to read Mori's review because it sounds a bit more level-headed than most.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    Good Point Sad_Lieutenant

    by TheLastCleric

    Not to mention the methodical marketing of this film which has been relentless. Using the term "primal" suggests a raw, organic creative process when in reality Cloverfield is an insanely hyped and marketed commodity, like every other film. I think the movie will be a blast but these types of reviews come off as pretty silly and they seem to painfully over reach in their praise.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:01 a.m. CST

    money back

    by dee_hunter316

    after watching this dog poo, i wanted to ask for my money back. problem was, they would have found out that i snuck in

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:04 a.m. CST

    Craziest Story Ever

    by xevoid

    Here's why I am hesitant to see this movie, and it has nothing to do with how bad or good it is:<br><br>The first and only time I saw the Blair Witch Project I was sitting int he Bridge theater in San Francisco. The VERY FUCKING MOMENT in the movie they open up the tent for the first time at night to go outside to see what's making all the racket, a 5.4 earthquake hit San Francisco. I shit you not. Everyone was already freaked out by the movie and then the thater started swaying and the chandeliers started moving and people's brains started sswitching from the movie to reality, but it took a while. Was that the theater shaking? If youve ever been in a earthquake you know it takes a second or two to regiter what is occurring, and it took longer because it was the most intense scene int he movie.<br><br> So I don't know if I should see another movie like BWP. I think I will see it in a cineplex downtown on the top floor of the mall so if the place collapses I'll be on top. The End.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:09 a.m. CST

    darrenspool and various other shitheads

    by pdennett316

    I love how you all are suddenly the foremost experts on all things from animal behaviour to the reactions of every single person in the world EVER to a crisis situation. <p> Heres a thought for you all....IT's A FUCKING MOVIE!!!! No one in film has ever acted realistically, horror films would be fucking boring for a start - no one would go off investigating strange noises. Action movies - the good guy would be dead within seconds as the bad guys CAN actually aim a weapon. Romantic comedies - no, the geeky sad-sack loser won't get the super model to love him, she'll focus on the rich guy. <p> Now, when you've got a giant monster tearing up NY, I think little things like logic can go out the window, as can pretending you know how a giant aquatic killing machine behaves. I just got off the phone with David Attenborough and he told me that they react EXACTLY as depicted in this film, what do you think of that asshole?? You must be some kind of joyless, empty fucker to nitpick a popcorn movie in this manner, go throw yourself off a bridge.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:10 a.m. CST

    "It's a scene set in a subway tunnel."

    by Orionsangels

    MTV showed an exclusive clip of that scene a few days ago. I felt nothing.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    So much made of so little

    by otto maddox

    and why did the monster stay in the same 10 block area for 6 hours?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:15 a.m. CST

    Russman...

    by -guyinthebackrow

    I sometimes get nauseous in movies with a lot of handheld camera shots. The last time was in BOURNE ULTIMATUM, but I still loved that movie. And, yes, I do get seasick.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:19 a.m. CST

    cloverfield 2

    by dee_hunter316

    so are we gonna get a crappy sequal like we did for blair witch? you know, where they spend the whole time telling us that the first movie was a fake, but then find out that the cloverfield monster really exists. dun dun duuuuuuuuuuuuun!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST

    by the way...................................

    by dee_hunter316

    The movie opens by telling us that the following footage was recovered from the site formerly known as Central Park. Rob's (Michael Stahl-David) friends are having a going away party for him. Beth (Odette Yustman) Rob's love shows up to the party with a guy friend, she leaves to go back to her apartment early. The party is still rockin', then chaos as the lights go out. Everyone goes up to the roof to see what happened. Classic rooftop scene from the trailer (huge fire ball and monster movement in the distance taking down a skyscraper). Everyone decides to leave the city (Manhattan) so they go on the bridge, (its Rob, his brother Jason, his brothers fiance Lily, Hud the cameraman, and Marlena, Hud's interest.) They make it to the middle of the bridge. More roaring and pounding happen. As Jason climbs on the side of the bridge up on the supports to see what's going on, a HUGE tail smashes the bridge and Jason with it. The group finds their way off the bridge and into some tunnels. They figure they will go to Beth's apartment (she called Rob earlier while they were on the bridge - asking for help). Through the tunnels that are now shut down and after some walking and funny commentary by Hud they hear some odd noises. The nightvision on the camera comes on and mini monsters are on the ceiling of the tunnel. They run the way they came only to have Marlena get bitten, but she survives. They now find their way into what looks like a department store taken over by military planning and triage centers. Rob is constantly telling the army personnel that he is going to go to his friend Beth's apartment. Hud pans to several of the wounded and dead, then hears Marlena say something to the effect of she doesn't feel too good. Her eyes are bleeding and this alarms a few people in biohazard suits and they immediately start screaming BITE BITE and take her behind a curtain where you can see their silhouette. She doubles over and then explodes literally with blood splattering the curtain. The military guy takes Rob, Lily and Hud, down a back room to a door telling them if they want to find their friend they have till about 0600 hours until Operation Hammerdown commences (Leveling the city). They are now back on the street and find the apartment buildings in the distance. The building to the right is literally LEANING on the building to the left. Sucky for them, Beth lives in the half fallen over building. They decide to walk the stairs 50+ floors in the left building where they find an opening to the leaning building. They find Beth and she is impaled in her upper left shoulder by a piece of metal. They lift her up off the spike and make their way back to the building they came in. Mini monster attack but no injuries or deaths. They now make their way to the base where the military guy in the department store told them to meet helicopters and to leave before the Operation Hammerdown starts. Lily gets in the helicopter but there is not enough room for Hud, Rob, or Beth, so they get in another helicopter. Lily's takes off and the rest lift off and start flying away. They see the monster causing havoc down below, and then a stealth bomber way above them drop a series of bombs which directly hits the monster. They can't see anything because of the smoke. Hud says they got the monster and just as he is celebrating, the monster quickly rises up and takes out their helicopter. Waking up now in the daylight morning time (everything else was night), hurt but still alive are the three survivors of the crash. They crawl out of the wreckage, shocked to be alive and inspect their injuries. Hud looks for the camera and finds it and as he does, Beth and Rob are scared to death and staring right behind Hud. Hud turns around and is now under the HUGE monster, who gives a roar and eats Hud, who drops the camera. Rob picks up the camera, runs with Beth through Central Park and under a bridge then turns the camera on himself and says his goodbyes to anyone that will find it. It's now 6:42am and Rob turns the camera on Beth. She doesn't know what to say. A couple bombs come and level the bridge, and the camera is now under rubble so you can't see either person. You can just hear them. Rob tells Beth he loves her...she says she loves him. Immediately after she says it more bombs explode on them and we are left to assume that they killed them. *as to the monsters...I counted 5 legs, sometimes walked biped sometimes walked on all 5, really indescribable. Charlie adds: I think that it is very important to note the final few seconds of the film, particularly as the camera is fixed out to the ocean at Coney Island...If you look at the ocean, out in the distant on the right hand side, you can see “something” crash into the water at a very steep angle. I believe that this is the monster.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:25 a.m. CST

    pdennett316 = Typical American Idiocy

    by darrenspool

    A real-life war without an explanation. And now a monster movie without an explanation. Just so long as the yuppies look good. "I don't know what I'm dealing with, but I'll rush into battle anyway." That's true irony. You think I wasn't excited? I wasn't scared, but I was on the edge of my seat waiting for Hud to go it alone and trail the monster. Fuck Rob. I had such curiosity, I was gobsmacked that anyone with an invincible video camera would follow around a buttfuck like Rob.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:26 a.m. CST

    Spoiler Here...but I have to say

    by Purgatori

    Fucking amazing movie. And Hud was of course the best character. I love the foreshadowing that finally hit me a little while after seeing it. "If this is the last thing you see, then I"m dead." And in fact it was. Nice. One of those movies that makes you walk out dazed for a few seconds because it draws you in so deeply. I loved it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST

    True Monster Pic (not a gay funny joke)

    by rsdigi

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:27 a.m. CST

    True Monster Pic (not a gay funny joke)

    by rsdigi

    http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/628/1200644932486bm9.jpg

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    True Monster Pic (not a gay funny joke)

    by rsdigi

    http://img 205.imageshack.us/img205/628/1200644932486bm 9.jpg remove spaces as usual

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:32 a.m. CST

    why the reposting of the entire movie

    by zom-bot.com

    i've read that one long-ass description a few times now. it's eerie how it's completely nuetral of opinion. <P>hmmm. don't know if it had 5 legs? how is that fun?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    crab-lice and popping

    by zom-bot.com

    i'm no scientist, but i imagine that those who get bit by the lice pop because whatever the the bite/venom does is meant for the large cells or thick hide of the beast...to rupture it for gain entry or get access to blood. little human bodies can't handle it. like alka seltzer and seagulls.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:35 a.m. CST

    zom-bot

    by rsdigi

    First off sorry for all the posts in a row guys. It had 6 appendages. Two huge, long front "arms" two small arms under it's torso, and rear "legs". I put the others in quotes because the thing is obviously influenced by a crab.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    oh i was talking about dee_hunter's posts

    by zom-bot.com

    and thier repetition of the entire movie.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:40 a.m. CST

    you have read the description

    by dee_hunter316

    the description is the whole movie. ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:41 a.m. CST

    I didnt notice the splash either

    by rsdigi

    And I would have since I was looking at the sea. I'm just assuming (even though the writers never though it up) that it's just some abomination released from the sea, hence it's crab like, newt-like breathing gills. Remember that huge clam scientists found recently (then killed faster then they found it)

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:50 a.m. CST

    it was ok

    by alcester

    saw it last night. was ok. too much dull time. needed more monster time. people were boring, going back to save a dumb ass chick.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:10 a.m. CST

    theoneofblood's ideas

    by astro1

    both the ideas you gave for if "you made this movie" were horrible. Camera's strapped to soliders helmets? C'Mon! Is Cloverfield the best thing ever? No, not really but it's pretty entertaining and wasn't meant to be anything more. I like how TBr's keep referring to the characters as "yuppies" there's nothing yuppy about any of them. There typica 20 somethins with careers, but I guess for overweight low lifes living with their parents that might constitue a yuppie.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:12 a.m. CST

    I'm already tired of it

    by sundancekeed

    and I haven't even seen it yet. And I was planning to. But I just know that all of this blatantly generated hype has poisoned at least some of the positives I may feel about this. Frankly I can't stand being marketed as shamelessly as this thing has been doing. All the stupid websites alluding to some kind of backstory that from what I hear isn't even mentioned in the film. Plus, I gotta say that I don't have a lot of faith in anything that J.J.Abrams does after the 3 year (so far) cocktease that Lost has been.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:16 a.m. CST

    your fault for even checking the websites

    by astro1

    sundancekeed. nobody forced the viral shit on anyone, yet everyone is complaining about it. Why? Because there's no big Cliche' explanation....even if there was you dorks would bitch about that too. don't blame JJ.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:23 a.m. CST

    Rsdigi, TEETH is about a frightening clam.

    by freakinarteest

    and Capone, War of the Worlds has already played the "Is it terrorists?" card. If only that film could've kept up the intensity of the first tripod attack, this film would be an also-ran. Far as i'm concerned, though, Spielberg gets points for that fog-horn sound that the Martian machines made just before all hell broke loose. The recollection of that sound still makes me twitch a little. To anyone who's seen Cloverfield: is there any B.F.Skinner conditioning like _that_ in the film?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:25 a.m. CST

    Arrrrgh. Pavlov, not Skinner.

    by freakinarteest

    I need to check my meds more often.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:26 a.m. CST

    Waiting *Patiently* 4 Moriarty review

    by Trooperof3

    Cloverfield is gonna be a wild ride. I haven't really watched any trailers or done any online stuff so my mind could be fresh... I can't wait.. Did anyone goto the going away party for Rob?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:30 a.m. CST

    No Astro,

    by sundancekeed

    Now I wanna say, don't pee on the rug but instead I'll respond to your post. I'm complaining about it because it wasn't necessary. It doesn't really serve a purpose. Unlike the Dark Knight stuff, which was a build-up to the reveal of the new Joker, this has just been beating the same drum over and over. All they really had to do was get the word out that this was going to be a monster movie told from a unique perspective and leave it at that. I thought that the trailers did an effective job of that. But all of the Slusho stuff and the environmental group ala' Greenpeace and some bad ol' corporation got very clicheish in a hurry for me. And I don't blame JJ. I blame Chris Carter for starting all of this "tease but don't really reveal" crap which he did for however many years the X-Files were on. JJ is simply his apostle. But you're right about one thing. I didn't have to check out the viral stuff. But if it's there and you've got a spare minute, curiosity is a bitch, jack.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:40 a.m. CST

    by milkmaidhj

    I saw this at a midnight screening up in Lincoln Center in NYC( which is the general area the end of this movie takes place). When we all walked out into a overcast, foggy, and quite New York city after this movie it was really surreal. The subway ride home was even more intense. Anyone who sits here and rips the logic of the people, or Rob can go to hell because being in NYC during 9/11, though I was far far uptown the second it all went down the first thing that I did, as well as the people around me, was try to get in contact with all our loved ones in the city. Rob's reaction was right on point with what anyone would have done. Plus the monster arrived on the lower east side and the movie ends with it generally in or around central park which if any of the logic assholes would look is really far uptown thus meaning the monster was MOVING UP MANHATTAN. The kids apartment was again on the LOWER PART of Manhattan and they had to go uptown to get Beth which would be why the monster and them were always around each other,but noooooooooo thats not logical.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:43 a.m. CST

    What's Vern's take?

    by estacado1

    I wanna read Vern's take. I have a feeling that those who hated Transformers will also hate Cloverfield.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Best most intense sequence

    by messi

    is where they run into the military and then try to get into the subway. FUUCCCKKKKK. the shot where the monster just comes out screaming after that whole sequence made my heart stop, just the pacing of that sequence is one for the ages.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:49 a.m. CST

    quantize

    by messi

    get that cock out of your mouth.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:50 a.m. CST

    theoneofblood

    by messi

    i'm sorry but you are stupid. why do you overanalyze things, how about "holy shit that shot of the monster screaming after the military is shooting it was fucking awesome". some film geeks are just pathetic. such boring losers.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:51 a.m. CST

    And yeah,

    by sundancekeed

    even though I'm burned out on the hype, I'm going to see the movie. Why? Because I've always dug "big monster tearing up the city and shit" movies. And it'd really be nice not to be disappointed. We'll see.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:59 a.m. CST

    The Host Was Insanely Overrated

    by TheLastCleric

    The only reason critics slobbered all over this film was because it was foreign. Had an American studio released this weak-ass effort, critics would have dismissed it immediately. The creature design was cool but the actual film was corny and predictable. It's so pathetic the way American critics faun over mediocre foreign films like The Host. And Harry should be ashamed of himself for even suggesting this film occupies the same space as JAWS. LAME.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11 a.m. CST

    J.J Abrams = Anti-payoff Con artist

    by darrenspool

    This guy's TV shows always die because no one cares about the twist ending that just doesn't seem to arrive. What a stupid toss.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Wow, that was a bad movie.

    by Mostholy

    This site has become completely untrustworthy. The scariest thing about CLOVERFIELD was the notion that the next 9/11 might happen while you're stuck at a party with a bunch of one-note douchebags.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    I enjoyed it....

    by The_Boo

    but cynics will hate it. If you can't take a ride with a movie then what's the point. Yes all the guys are total douchbags, but really, waht twenty something in New York isn't. My only real beef is that they were in very convenient locations throughout the movie. I would've rather had more glimpses through the news footage, and Hud's death was really too much and served only one purpose. As flawed as "Signs" is I think it did the non-action hero version of a big event much better.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:15 a.m. CST

    *spoiler* where it came from

    by Riverrun

    At the end, in the final shot of the ocean at Coney Island, you can clearly see a distant object strike the water (but you have to be looking for it, it's near the right side of the screen)

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    I had a blast, and the more i think about it, the more I like it

    by Novaman5000

    From the moment the city first shakes, it is just fantastic tension for the rest of the running time. That subway tunnel sequence? Fucking great. And the bridge, and the building climb. Oh and that helicopter falling from the sky. Just an intense, suspenseful, blast of a movie. <p> Of course, there are some narrative choices that I wish they hadn't made, and a couple moments that feel more scripted than "found footage", but overall, this movie was a success. I was pretty hyped for it and I wasn't disappointed.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:24 a.m. CST

    People complaining about the viral marketing are morons.

    by Novaman5000

    That's what's great about viral marketing / ARGs. You don't have to fucking play, and chances are, if you don't go searching for them, you won't even know they exist. I think it's a great way to get fans involved if they choose to. A clever way to expand mythology and get people more into the world of the film. What the fuck is wrong with that?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:25 a.m. CST

    Riverrun- my friend saw that too.

    by Novaman5000

    He said you could see something in the ocean in the final shot. I missed it, I'll have to look for it the 2nd time around, whenever that might be.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:27 a.m. CST

    Top Notch Review

    by v1

    Dead on... you absolutely nailed my experience in the film. The scene where you yelled "Run," I was so tense I was damn near trying to push myself through the back of my chair, heart rate spiking, and barely breathing.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST

    The monster is so monstruous that i almost threw up in my mouth

    by chandleyr

    But at the same after the second viewing it get funny http://chandleyr.typepad.fr/weblog/2...uise--son.html Beware it can scare the shit out f you if you're not drunk enough ^^ just a joke :)

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:44 a.m. CST

    dudes got some bubbles on his face

    by theredtoad

    and a serious lice problem too..

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:47 a.m. CST

    my quote for the DVD box:

    by Blue_Demon

    84 Charlie Mo Pic meets Godzilla! --Blue_Demon

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:51 a.m. CST

    sundancekeed beating a dead horse

    by astro1

    but they've already said WHY they did the viral sites. They put them up to create more fan interaction, not to lead anyone on. And to create some other "Cloverfield" world for those that were interested. Again, it's nobody but YOUR fault for 1. even visiting the sites and 2. caring enough to actually retain the stupid information they gave you. But to say they didn't give a payoff is dumb. They gave you the info on the sites, why rehash it in the movie???? What - you're mad because all that info didn't lead up to some grand story intertwining all the info given on the sites to the movie? Give me a fucking break. You should be happy JJ gave you something to occupy your "few free minutes of curiosity" (READ:) hours and hours of online surfing to find clues to something that doesn't need to be answered. HAHA - stop whining

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    I did contribute to Grindhouse

    by BADBOYBROM HC

    Fuck me it was shit. I'd love it if they gave me back my money for Cloverfield. Id really really love it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    Grindhouse & The Host

    by astro1

    First of all - Grindhouse didn't make money because the marketing sucked, and the movies were dull. The experience was fun, and the trailers rocked, but overall a dissapointment for sure. Who needs 60 million to make two crappy b-movie ripoffs? SO JJ Sucks for using elements from Blair Witch, and Godzilla, but QT and RR should be commended for rehashing shit for horrible films? OKAY!!!! AND The Host - horrible acting, loose story, and a shitty leading guy that defies any and all reasonable logic of normal human behavior. The beast was okay, the only redeeming thing is watching it run after a bunch of koreans while it's selectively picking them off one by one. Other than that, The Host was so-so.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    I hope it's NOT TOO SILLY

    by Big Dumb Ape

    ...My only complaint from reading initial things is the driving subplot that Rob has to go find his Girlfriend and THAT forces him (and the others) to run into the monster, danger, and for some even death.<p>I know the movie needs a plot reason to move forward...I know there will be those that will say "Who wouldn't go and try and find/save the woman you love"...but these guys are ALSO all supposed to be MBA's and incredibly smart yuppies, not to mention that as NYers they WOULD have lived through 9/11...at which point they'd already know that when a city of nearly 10 MILLION PEOPLE goes batshit with fear and terror it's pretty much all but impossible to simply walk the streets hoping to romantically and magically find your lover.<p>And from what I read, the subplot is that they AREN'T boyfriend and girlfriend...that Rob feels guilt that they had sex, he took this job, and he never told her how he really felt. Which begs the reality check question: when the shit hits the fan, why WOULD Rob expect Beth to stay put versus fleeing the city as fast as she can?<p>So I'm really looking forward to this...it sounds like a lot of fun based on the intitial reactions of some...but I also REALLY hope this won't have silly plot holes that once the lights come up I'll find myself sitting there and saying "Heyyyy, wait a minute--!!!"

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    I like...

    by Therealumlaut

    Godzilla. I like The Host. I do not like JJ Abrams. He is a ripoff artist.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:58 a.m. CST

    Why, Supendous? Why, Pennsy, WHY

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    You know I don't want to do this again...<p>B b b b<br> I i i i<br> G g g g<br> L l l l<br> I i i i<br> O o o o<br> N n n n<br></p> LION! <p>We can dance like a lion<br> He is the king of beasts<br> And when he starts growin'<br> Destruction he’s sowin'<br> Takes down buildings like a wildebeest<br></p> Say, we can dance like a lion<br> We can take part in the hunt<br> Predatory cat will own your ass<br> Now everybody’s on the run<br> <br> We can dance like a lion<br> New York City is now his jungle<br> Watch him eat yo’ peeps up and down the street<br> Kill your main dude and your uncle<br> <br> Say, we can dance, we can dance<br> And I doth quote “[It is] huge”<br> We can dance, we can dance<br> Lookin’ for a bridge to chew<br> We can dance, we can dance<br> He’s breakin the convenience store glass<br> We can dance, we can dance<br> Blood fillin' all your safari pants<br><br> It’s the Lion Dance<br> The Lion Dance<br> The Lion<br> Yeah!<br><br> It's the LION DANCE!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:04 p.m. CST

    And THE HOST is what I'm talking about...

    by Big Dumb Ape

    Since others above have mentioned it several times now, I'd echo the general concensus. Fun movie, looked good, the SFX and the monster looked great especially when plucking people off left and right...<p>...But the lead actor and even the side actors/general population of the city operated in some kind of alternate reality. Nothing they did ever made logical human sense given the appearance of a deep sea monster and what they were now up against and what people really would be doing.<p>So I liked THE HOST, it was fun, but it's exactly what I was talking about above. I hope the CLOVERFIELD people act like people really would when facing such odds.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:08 p.m. CST

    Godzilla Owns Cloverfucks ass .. nuff said

    by paulyd30

    what a LAME ass attempt at a Godzilla movie. A whale looking thing with legs, WOWE how inspiring. I think any 3 rd grader could have come up with a better looking monster than that !! Long live the King ! Godzilla !

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    AintitCloverfieldNews.com

    by Chutch

    all the AICN reviewers overrated this quite a bit. the monster is basically a giant shaved alien monkey with a breathable brain, so i don't get what's so hard to describe about it. it was still good, especially for a january movie, but harry shows again that he gets too fanboy-ish about movies. can someone else who saw it explain the creatures scale in hud's last shot? it didn't look too big there to me. oh and obviously it's an alien and was never called a lion.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:09 p.m. CST

    Definitely

    by SpyHunter89

    I completely agree with everything he just said. This is an extremely awesome concept. It's nice to have something different for a change, instead of your normal moviegoing experience. This movie is epic.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    OKAY WHERE IS YACKBACKER'S REVIEW

    by BringingSexyBack

    Dude I'm waiting for your take on this before committing.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    but BSB...

    by just pillow talk

    he liked Transformers, just like that superstar cunt messi. Love ya messi!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST

    Failure

    by lagomorph

    The idea was so intriguing but it probably should have stayed on the bar napkin it was written on. The movie just doesn't work and it has too many parts that feel devoid of dread. It never felt awe-inspiring which it really needed to. The opening minutes of the attack were pretty cool but somehow the atmosphere of the film never enveloped me. I felt more like I was watching a scripted film than I do during many scripted films.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:19 p.m. CST

    I KNOW - AND DAMN HIM FOR THAT ... BUT

    by BringingSexyBack

    he got me to watch Casino Royale after I expressed some mild dislike for it and I ended up loving that movie. So I do trust his opinion. Despite the Transformers travesty. Have you seen Cloverbeast yet? What's your take?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:20 p.m. CST

    YOU SEE PILLOW? LAGOMORPH'S REVIEW ABOVE

    by BringingSexyBack

    contradicts so many of the enthusiastic ones. I'm fucking confused. I should just go see TWBB instead.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:23 p.m. CST

    I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY MAKE SINESTRO CORPS WAR

    by BringingSexyBack

    and Bob Orci is assigned to write it. I know nothing about it, but count on Messi to blow out the TBs with rants about canon. Damn that will be fun.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:25 p.m. CST

    TOO GREEN!!!!

    by BringingSexyBack

    Let that be the first post re: the Sinestro Corps War movie.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:26 p.m. CST

    nope, haven't seen it

    by just pillow talk

    Though one of the guys I work with has a friend that saw it in CA, and that guy thought it was great. What does that mean? Absolutely nothing.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:30 p.m. CST

    Guys, give Messi a break...

    by Abin Sur

    Sure, he's more than a little "enthusiastic" when it comes to GL, but his heart's in the right place. Now if you REALLY want to razz him, let him know that SINISTER is Latin for LEFT, meaning SINESTRO CORPS WAR must be some liberal tree hugging propaganda piece. Damn alien libs. Actually, that may make that Cygnus guy mad too...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST

    ABIN SUR

    by BringingSexyBack

    Cygnus is a certified Trek dork. If you read his posts in the ST TB, you would never know it's the same wingnut that appears elsewhere. Freaked me out last night, that fucker.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:36 p.m. CST

    Abin Sur...

    by just pillow talk

    I know, I'm just repeating what MNG said after the intro that messi got for his review.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:38 p.m. CST

    MAYBE I'LL ASK GRANDMA WHAT SHE THINKS OF CLOVERBEAST

    by BringingSexyBack

    Grandma thought it was Voltron too.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Astro. Hours?

    by sundancekeed

    Hardly any time at all, dude. All of the various clues and websites were listed on the cloverfield clues website whose address I got off of one of these posts. And again, my problem with it was that it didn't produce anything of consequence. If you get into that kind of thing, good for you. I thought it amounted to a lot of creative energy on the part of the filmmakers expended for no real payoff to the people who followed the trail. That strikes me as being a bit of a ripoff.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:44 p.m. CST

    Damn, BSB, you were right...

    by Abin Sur

    Cygnus is definitely talkin' the Trek. Oh, and Ewok Sex Slaves? That's just WRONG, sir.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST

    Paulyd30

    by BangoSkank

    The monster you're talking about wasn't even in the movie. It was just some bullshit internet creation. Before you talk shit, you should know what you're talking about.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:52 p.m. CST

    SORRY ABIN SUR

    by BringingSexyBack

    It just made sense last night. Not the case now, but it did last night.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST

    S'okay BSB...

    by Abin Sur

    The herb makes us say weird, wild and wackadoo things.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    THAT'S THE SCARY PART - I WAS COMPLETELY SOBER

    by BringingSexyBack

    My mind, sometimes I can't control it. Someone help ...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    Shaky Cam + Theme Park Ride

    by Mullah Omar

    I've never had any, though I am sure people do. Doesn't sitting towards the back of the theater help? <br> <br> Regardless, I saw a midnight show in NYC and I completely agree with everyone who compared this to a Universal Studios Theme Park Ride. If you enjoy those, then check this film out ASAP before everyone else sees it and starts dropping spoilers all over the place. If you hated the style of BLAIR WITCH and thought that 28 WEEKS LATER was over the top in terms of believability, then you should stay away from CLOVEFIELD.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    hah! Pauly d taklin shit!

    by The_Boo

    He didn't even see the movie!!!! Godzilla sucks, the only reason any of those movies are watchable is because it's fun to get high and laugh at em!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    As for the monster not leaving NYC,

    by Novaman5000

    Would you leave a picnic just because a there were a few mosquitos bugging you? Please. NYC was a smorgasboard (sp?) of destruction and tasty morsels for that thing. Bitch is no fool. The weapons weren't even really hurting it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 1:03 p.m. CST

    *amendment

    by Mullah Omar

    "...thought that 28 WEEKS LATER was over the top in terms of believability" - read that in terms of the "believability" of how characters would react to such a situation. This film (obviously) asks you to suspend disbelief over the fantastic situation, but I never felt like I needed to suspend disbelief over the reactions of the characters. And actually, I think this film had more believable characters than 28 WEEKS LATER.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    Good flick hyped too much.

    by dopepope

    Imagine this movie coming out without one peep, going in to it and sitting down with no preconceived ideas, expectations or clues of any kind what it was about, and what you would have is one hell of a sleeper hit on your hands. Word of mouth would explode and this movie would have most likely garnered loads of critical acclaim and audience appreciation in hoards. Not to say it still won't, but the impact, the awe that most of this film deserved was diluted by insane hype. That said, this movie is still pretty damn good. As far as giant monster movies go, it's beautifully realistic, unexpectedly creepy, and a lot of fun. While this creature was somewhat unique in design (looked like a giant Resident Evil Licker to me), we've never seen a GIANT monster like this, lumbering around in crawling, drunken, corpse like motions. It was indeed more creepy than any other giant monster movie has ever been, which, to me, is a very nice touch. And as much as I liked this movie, it made me wish that instead of this giant shaved monkey, we would have gotten a Godzilla movie that inspired as much awe. http://tinyurl.com/yqke5h

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 1:32 p.m. CST

    Mullah Omar

    by BangoSkank

    I was going to make the exact same comparison... The teleporting zombie dad in 28 Weeks Later killed that flick for me. Killed it.<p> To the haters..... If you can't *****SPOILERS***** figure out why a guy, one who just saw the most important person in his life killed, would try to rescue the second most important person in his life --the woman he's been in love with for years-- you should just stop watching movies altogether. <p> Plus, what movie do you want to watch? The recorded footage of the Nebraskan tourist couple who taped the creature for five minutes and were then helivacted to safety... or the footage of the guy who tries to rescue the love of his life who called begging for his help? This is why we see THIS footage, 'cause it's the most interesting. <p> AND! Would you guys really have wanted to have a bunch of floppy-headed Emo kids as the main characters versus the oh-so hated "yuppies"? Young well-dressed 20-somethingers at a party in New York? Who would have ever thought.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 1:35 p.m. CST

    The host was fun but, not scary really.

    by Novaman5000

    Too fucking silly for it's own good.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 1:57 p.m. CST

    What did the lion look like?

    by Abominable Snowcone

    And was Voltron able to stop it with that silver vat of chocolate coochie juice?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 2:03 p.m. CST

    Fucking Cthulhu would be very difficult.

    by Abin Sur

    And painful.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    Worth Watching

    by SeymourClearly

    Just saw the movie and I was pleasantly surprised that I was able to enjoy it. Good thrill ride!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST

    the score thats supposedly iconic??

    by mattforce7

    WHere the fuck was it? NOt at the end i'll tell u that. I saw it and thought it was pretty good, hud is the man, he saved the movie, and the last shot of the monster was very cool

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    Actually...

    by Tourist

    ...They are hardcore yuppies. Don't defend their sensible dress sense please. The monster stays in the same area for the same reason HUD kills himself videotaping shit for no reason. Because if he didn't, there would be no movie. And if there was no movie, there would be no middling entertainment product to sell to morons. Then what would Messi do with is spare time? Thus, Nu Godzilla (Godzilla X? Godzilla Extreme? Godzilla Millenium? I Can't Believe It's Not Godzilla?) sticks to one area, to ensure that Messi has something to do.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    for those mad at Rob's "logic" and The Host again

    by astro1

    Have any of you ever done anything to help someone you loved? I've risked harm (not quite what Rob is doing here) for others. It's not that far fetched to think that someone with an MBA would risk their life to save the girl they love. You stupid idiots. As for sundancekeed - what kind of payoff did you expect from a big Monster movie? Seriously? Again, it's your fault for thinking that these 'clues' would unfold in the movie. Nobody ever said they would. Plus, if you only spent a few minutes here and there researching them then why care? Last piece about The Host - all it has over Cloverfield is some lame (READ: Cliche as fuck) origin story for the sea creature (oh you poured some shit in the river did ya? okay!!!!) - with an ending that felt like a bad acid trip mixed with a crossbow, and a bad hair coloring job.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 2:25 p.m. CST

    not yupies

    by astro1

    for fuck sakes. do you even know what a yuppy is? stuffy, privledged, pretentious douche bags. since when does a college education = yuppie? Oh, only on AICN where the TBr's are a bunch of sit in's working at a comic book shop or as an IT service man.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    MAde my girlfriend sick with the cam...

    by worldofwarcraft

    but my little brother liked it. HE's ten and he loves Godzilla. His favorite part was the little face huggerish things, which I personally didnt like at all. The monster's okay, but, I wish it had something to fight against. There were a couple of times i felt bad that the monster was losing, cause I guess I just couldnt root for anybody but the monster in this movie. And isn't it wierd how the Hellboy 2 trailer had that wormy looking Cthulu ish thing in it?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 2:32 p.m. CST

    Um...

    by Tourist

    The Host was a very well made, interesting, moving and entertaining film. It has those things over Cloverfield. Which I did end up seeing. Actually not as bad as I thought it would be. But one interesting thing I did note, personally, was that it wasn't the slightest bit scary or nerve racking, rather illicited the same "excitment" from me that incidents like 9/11 did on TV. Being presented as non fiction really made it feel fun in the way watching mass anonymous destruction in a giant crowd actually is. Although, you know, be honest folks, its a 5 minute segment from Spielbergs War Of The Worlds desperately stretched out to feature time. Sort of like Die Hard With A Vengeance and Dirty Harry. Plus that chick wasn't really worth it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 2:39 p.m. CST

    Tourist

    by Oomlot

    There are plenty of reasons for something not to want to move, even when it's under attack. You can ascribe animal and human traits to that behavior. But you are right, the principle reason for it not to move around too much, was because if Rob was just running through empty city streets, it would have been like the beginning of 28 Days Later, only without the sudden change. People should really try to remember that it's just a movie, no matter how brilliant or crappy you think it is. Sometimes what you would do can't apply to the logic a character follows, because the point of movies is to be involved in a story somehow, if you act like you don't want to be involved in the story, you'll just be Colossus in X2 - ie everyone asking wtf happened to you for the rest of the film, after you act like a real person might

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 2:42 p.m. CST

    wow it sucked.

    by captainCAPSLOCK

    stupid hype stupid actors stupid script/"dialog" stupid masses eating this up as 'good' stupid me for wasting 6 bucks and 1 1/2 hours </p> this thing is gonna make a ton of money and hopefully the sequel will get this done right.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST

    That score...

    by dopepope

    Was totally an intended homage to Akira Ifukube's Godzilla anthems. It was beyond obvious.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:07 p.m. CST

    Another question involving logic...

    by Blue_Demon

    Did any of you bitch when Ripley went back to rescue a cat? Did that ruin "Alien" for you? Just wondering...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    I

    by fedrich519

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    I Agree Completely With Capone

    by fedrich519

    Just got back from the theater, and holy shit, it was amazing. It did what few movies have done in a long time...it impressed me with its originality. Very well done.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:19 p.m. CST

    only the CGI was good in The Host

    by astro1

    The hospital escape? Seriously stupid. The cross bow weilding sister. The bizarre ending? You said it was "moving" how so? Becase you get to watch a family try to save their sister? I don't get it. There wasn't anything remotely interesting about that movie besides the beast doing nose dives into the river.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:22 p.m. CST

    Different strokes for different folks...

    by Tourist

    ...The beast, I mean GIANT FISH, did jack shit for me in The Host. It was the stuff you didn't like that did do it for me. Giant badly designed monsters just haven't been my thing since I outgrew them at 6 or so.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Trik

    by Kingdaddy

    No. No one ever has time to stop and ask the monster any questions. I wish Dr. Phil had been there to help. Flick was 8/10 for me, but I can't get it out of my head and may see it again tonight.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:24 p.m. CST

    Another question involving logic...

    by quantize

    No you idiot because we weren't being presented with some psuedo 'real' archival video of an 'event'. It was intentional fiction, shot and created in a dramatic style! DUH

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:25 p.m. CST

    virals vs. result

    by zom-bot.com

    someone said "but they've already said WHY they did the viral sites. They put them up to create more fan interaction, not to lead anyone on."<P> how can you be a fan of something before it's out? they were exactly designed to lead intelligent inquizitive people on, and then the resulting product isn't even half as entertaining? at least the dark knight virals were truely participatory and enjoyable even outside of a movie coming out. and the truth is, we know more about TDK now six months until- than we knew about cloverfield a week ago.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    So it sounds like the characters and acting are quite bad

    by IndustryKiller!

    That is what i'm gathering from the comments and lass hyperbolic reviews here, and that's also how it looked in the trailer. I still haven't decided if I'm going to see this in theaters as I still have to see The Diving Bell and the Butterfly and Cassandra's Dream, both of which look like much better films, but we'll see.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:31 p.m. CST

    "i'm a fan of an idea of a monster movie

    by zom-bot.com

    where no one knows anything about it. that idea intrigues me and i will play these online games with full knowledge that they will unlock nothing about the movie experience" <P>face it..it lead people on.<P> the only reason slusho is a big deal is because jj asked the real Slushpuppy or ICEE company for sponsership and after they prescreened the ambiguous movie they backed out...just joking but i bet whatever dipshit writer created the word slusho is probably blowing himself for pseudio originality right now. lame.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:35 p.m. CST

    HornOrSilk

    by fedrich519

    Not that its any of your business smartass, I'm 33 years old. The style and point of view are what I found original, not "Monster destroys city".

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST

    anybody could've made this...

    by alienindisguise

    just grab an hd cam..some good ones are under a $1000 and run around with no regard for framing screaming and shouting about shit, throw in a few cg shots and ther ya go. Talent involved....ZERO.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST

    me thinks thou doth protest....

    by harper54

    Ya know, the amount of complaints that have been posted on this site in the last many months about the lifestyles of the people in the movie do a fantastic job of outlining the "average" AICN user. Seriously, it really shows by contrast how incredibly lame most of the people on this site are. Their ridiculous speculation about how much a movie they haven't seen will suck and how much the characters are "yuppies" shows us how few readers and tb'ers have ever been invited or attended a party in their sad sad lives. I saw the movie this morning and was in no way bothered/concerned by the social status of the characters prior to the huge fucking monster that is tearing up the city. What a bunch of obsesive little bitches so many of you proven yourselves to be. Get out of the basement and interact with people and you may be able to temper down your disdain for everyone in the world who is able to oh i don't know, attend a party or hold down a job, talk to a girl (not online) or even hold a conversation at a party. You sad fucking tools. oh yeah, the movie rocked and TF's sucked.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    So if there is no monster backstory...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...then WTF WAS the point of all that "Little Whale" and "Slusho" nonsense? ESPECIALLY if ***SPOILER*** the movie shows something falling from the sky into the ocean as another hint towards the origin of the monster? All that fake japanese Slusho ad BS seems really stupid if it's not even touched upon in the actual film, not to mention that Little Whale BS. At least with Weyland Yutani, there was some kind of mystique about the intent of the corporation that had a direct connection to the events in the movie. If they don't even bother expanding on this stuff, why would they make it the crux of the whole viral ad campaign? And frankly, I thought the whole fake culturally mistranslated beverage ad campaign was gratingly stupid ("You can't drink just six?" WTF does that even mean?), but could have been redeemed if it had been explored just a little bit. Instead it was (apparently) just abandoned (again, I haven't seen this yet, so maybe I am mistaken here and they did flesh it out.) I have no problem with hype, but damn, at least tie it into the movie somehow.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    Toho, Tsuburaya, and Daiei aren't in any danger

    by Hikaru Ichijo

    This movie is a nice treat for the Godzilla lover, although The Host did a better job at bringing it (giant Japanese monster movies) all together and updating it, and without the gimmick. Kaiju fans appreciate the explanation and characterization, no matter how hokey. I was able figure this out while sitting through all fifteen minutes of "Roar!"

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    quantize: so you didn't like it. Deal with it.

    by Executor

    Take your supercilious condescending attitude to the playground, where you're likely to get your ass kicked. What do you want, a personal apology from the filmmakers? There are plenty of people that got enjoyment from it and don't mind that the monster stayed in Manhattan. <p>Would the movie have blown your mind if the monster took off for New Jersey? Then you would have done away with the handicam aspect and just made it a conventional movie? The main characters then, would they have been the military chasing it, because it couldn't be regular people? <p>Yeah, I bet Drew Goddard is shitting in his pants that your fantastic ideas don't put him out of a job some day.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    ROB!!!! ROB, I SAW IT IN THE THEATER! IT SUCKED!!!

    by jimmy rabbitte

    teh gay...<p> Sorry, but it's true... see for yourself and find out.<p> The smoke monster on LOST will get a better send up than this... I hope.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST

    Overrated

    by Sithdan

    This movie, although entertaining, is quite overrated. It's nothing more than a blended Blair Witch Project and Godzilla.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST

    did they mention what rob's job was?

    by zom-bot.com

    or was that just left open ended too? maybe he was going to work for slusho and direct or translate the slusho ad campaign.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    Oh... and...

    by jimmy rabbitte

    ...NONE of that Slusho crap appears in the film... they shot their whole load on the "viral marketing campaign" ...total waste...<p> Also, there is NO backstory to the monster... this film is poorly done... it's as obvious metaphor for 9/11... should've, could've been done better... Paul Greengrass is still the "shaky-cam" title holder...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST

    re: zom-bot.com

    by jimmy rabbitte

    I'll answer your question, with a question.<p> Rob had a job?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:16 p.m. CST

    me thinks thou doth protest....

    by quantize

    Yeh or maybe you just identify strongly with a bunch of wankers from central casting. go fuck yourself.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:22 p.m. CST

    he's the greasy blazered slacker

    by zom-bot.com

    that was having the going away party thrown for him before he left to 'a new job in japan' right? from what i gather? sadly i probably will see this this weekend just because i'm in-between cable at the moment. <P>unless anyone can recommend anything else.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:29 p.m. CST

    Its a January film....

    by godhatesyou

    Crap..boring unscary overhyped and crap. Where is Mori's review.....he will tell the truth.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:31 p.m. CST

    Ok quantize...

    by harper54

    Careful, your tru colors are showing fuktard. That was a total shot in the dark meant only to insult anyone befitting its descriptions. What were you expecting anyway, ninja/pirates?! Or did you think you and your fellow tb's reflected the norm?? Oh man, now I feel bad. It's like I just told a retarded kid he was special, but in a retarded way.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    I have a headache now

    by disfigurehead

    I sat 5th row. Cool monster bullshit sappy plot.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    yeah

    by ballsxcrew

    yeah he was going to work for slusho. there were myspaces for the characters as part of the viral crap, and in one of his posts he talks about the job, and one of his friends even talks about how evil one of the subsidiaries are...they are either going to explain the origin in the viral stuff or in sequels. especially because in the very end someone says its still alive when the clip is played backwards. (was mentioned posts up from someone else, dont be lazy)

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    For movie fans...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...you guys sure love to hate movies. I'm not expecting it to live up to AICN's hype, because nothing ever lives up to AICN's hype. The difference is, when I'm underwhelmed by something another person enjoys, I don't interpret it as a direct fucking attack on my worth as a human being or a betrayal of a deep and sacred trust between movie geeks. You didn't like a monster movie, well great, here's a gold star for you for having such impossibly high standards for cinema. I might just agree with your assessment after I see this, but I'll still think you're a douchebag for being such a militantly dour fuck to anyone who dares to offend you by enjoying it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:53 p.m. CST

    JJ abrams and puzzles

    by AlphaTrion

    he throws a bunch of shit out there to get you interested. im sure he has an origin but we'll never see it. Look at LOST. I think its obvious. its a mixture of humanoid, animal and insect and thus wouldnt exist on this planet. Im pretty sure the thing falling into the ocean at the end signifies where it came from. in a chunk of rock that fell from the sky into the atlantic. Entertaining and fun movie and im glad they didnt weigh it down with the slusho, japanese oil drilling company story. you know all the sequels will be the same events only from different eyewitnesses with cameras. from news stations to homemade video to government footage from official videographers for the army. great idea. not groundbreaking though.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    JBouganim1

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Have you been an idiot long?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    worth the big screen

    by AlphaTrion

    I agree with soylent, its worth tseeing in the theatre. quality film making.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 4:59 p.m. CST

    JBouganim1

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Some of us would like to see this movie without your stupid play-by-play. <p> Thank you, douche.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    Yeah Soylent!! That's what I'm talkin bout!

    by harper54

    It's just fun and scary and not meant to be some kind of oscar suck up film. It's just a big monster effing up the city and the craziness that ensues.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:01 p.m. CST

    Thought is was cool.

    by Rando Calrisian

    It is a pretty bad ass monster movie, and I had a great time. <br> <br> If you like monster movies, you will probably dig it. <br> <br> Maybe the monster is a survivor that came from The Mist... <br> <br> And for the people that post the entire plot and exact scene for scen accounts of the movie are idiots. Don't you go to the movies to see things you don't know about? Don't you like being surprised by movies? Don't you freakin' know how to write with line breaks in your posts? <br> <br> Morons.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:03 p.m. CST

    SPOILER*anything JBouganim1 posts*SPOILER

    by AlphaTrion

    although i shouldnt talk, i gave away the very end in my post. im a hypocrite.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:03 p.m. CST

    Too Perfecty!

    by Rando Calrisian

    Funny, Soylent. >br> <br> true.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:04 p.m. CST

    executor

    by foree forehead

    you answered your own question. of course the monster would go to jersey.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:06 p.m. CST

    HOBOKEN, NJ....

    by harper54

    Where brothers and sisters go to fuck.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:07 p.m. CST

    Aparently, I'm a moron, too.

    by Rando Calrisian

    Why wouldn't the monster sta in the same area? Lots of stuff to do in New York... <br> <br> people to see... lots of freah snacks.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:07 p.m. CST

    I just came back from watching the movie...

    by Evil Lincoln

    ...and all I can say is that if I ever met JJ on the street I think I would punch him in the face, take his wallet out of his back pocket (removing $10 from it), then throwing it down next to his semiconscious body and walking off feeling better about my Cloverfield experience. Not once in this film did I ever feel that I connected with the characters or feel any emotion when they started getting picked off one by one. Also, I can't even think of a time during the movie that I ever felt scared or startled by the creature(s) (exept maybe when Hud turned on the night vision option on the camera in the tunnel) and made me wonder who would even find this movie terrifying. With all of the secrecy surrounding this film it made be begin to wonder if they realized they had a smoking turd on their hands and decided to try to fly it under the radar to get people to come into the theaters. The movie on a whole was very disappointing and I personally felt that as bad as it was, it was better than AvP:R...but not by much. <p> NOTE TO JJ: I'm just kidding about punching you on the street but seriously, I would like to have my money and my two hours of my life back.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    A thrilling ride...

    by tcb039io

    Cloverfield was just the way I like my women--tight, sassy and lean. Director Reeves did right by keeping this baby economical. An hour and half is about all the premise can hold, but that's not damning by faint praise. This was truly an original and interesting take on the kaiju genre filtered through 9/11 imagery. The backstory of the monster is fully realized but it will take a careful viewer to put all the pieces together. The most surprising thing is that the 20-odd minutes of setup was actually engaging. I thought I would be champing at the bit for monster time but the party and character introductions were handled extremely well. Favorite moments were when the looters stop looting to look up at the first clear images of the beastie on TV, and when our heroes stumble smack in the middle of an infantry and tank corps assault on the monster. It's loud, brutal and completely unglamorized. Just what I'd expect in that situation. Does the ending give closure? Yes, we can pretty much deduce what happens to both the characters and Mr. Grumpy Pants, but of course it's open-ended enough to provide for a sequel. Overall it was very well done and worth a look.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    hahaa!

    by foree forehead

    "..statue of liberty comes flying through the air and lands in the street, a glimpse of the monster is recorded by Hud and everyone in the street gathers around to look at the playback." this is the work of retarded genius! a perfect take on modern humanity for you, world going to shit but we gotta have teeeveeee

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST

    It was a lion!!

    by disfigurehead

    A big bald deranged mutated lion with little mutated cubs coming off.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST

    What the heck happened to Marlena?

    by darthvedder81

    SPOILERS: So the thing bit her and she later exploded?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    found footage doesnt equal reality in a film

    by AlphaTrion

    I think a lot of people hate it because its supposed to act like reality t.v. the way blair witch worked. but this is a giant cgi monster. it would never feel real watching that thing and maybe thats why the movie worked so well for the people who do love it. as a movie, its great. we're so numb to cgi that something like this film actually wakes us up.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:13 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague....BRAVO!!

    by fedrich519

    VERY, VERY well said!! Bravo!! I get so tired of everyone shitting on absolutely everything just because its cool to rip on everything. People need to learn to set expectations and not expect everything they see on the screen to change their lives and heighten their awareness of the universe. If you hate something, great, doesn't mean I'm insulting you because I like it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    soylent, quit stealing my ideas

    by AlphaTrion

    just kidding. that is the obvious direction to go with the sequels. same events, different perspectives. like actually yseeing the monster take the statue of liberty head off and SPOILER*watching it eat you know who*SPOILER. it worked great as found footage of real events in an imaginary world.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:21 p.m. CST

    New pic on 1-18-08.com

    by misterWINKIE

    monster dead?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:23 p.m. CST

    Just got back from the first showing...

    by Kirbymanly

    And yes, I saw the thing falling from the sky at the very end too. Loved it, loved it, loved it!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:25 p.m. CST

    NO! THEY BLEW IT.......UP

    by AlphaTrion

    the pics on 1-18-08.com suck. they pretty much gave it all away. like a fucking giant squid that got caught in a fishermans net. kind of dissapointing.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:27 p.m. CST

    so any sequels would have to be same events, different perspecti

    by AlphaTrion

    so any sequels would have to be same events, different perspective. according to 1-18-08.com

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST

    Soylent & Sequel...

    by Rando Calrisian

    (Spoilers) <br> <br> Not always a fan of sequels, but I have to say, after coming out of Cloverfield, I would love to see a more traditional movie from another perspective. Obviously the military perspective would be cool. I didn't notice the "splash" at Coney Island that other people say is there at the end, but I'll look for that next time. But this movie sets up the possibility for a sequel better than most, because there are so many unanswered questions. I think that's why it worked as a great popcorn movie for me. Not everything was explained, and I liked that. <br> <br> Obviously the footage was later found by someone, and it got into the government hands. If would be cool to even see some of the same scenes from a different perspective - ala Back To The Future 2. Seeing these characters in the distance - maybe we'd get to see Marlena explode... <br> <br> Cool stuff.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:29 p.m. CST

    I think they should keep updating 1/18/08...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...even after the movie is out of theaters. I want to see pics of the post-monster photo-op where the President lands a helicopter on the dead monster's back and declares victory, only to have the monster get back up and eat him and his entourage.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:30 p.m. CST

    Re-read

    by Evil Lincoln

    "Also, I can't even think of a time during the movie that I ever felt scared or startled by the creature(s) (exept maybe when Hud turned on the night vision option on the camera in the tunnel)" <p> Ok, maybe *one* time. LOL <p> I really didn't want to dislike this film or hate on it for no reason. I felt that I fell right into the demographic that would have loved the hell out of this movie but it just didn't do it for me.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:36 p.m. CST

    AlphaTrion

    by Rando Calrisian

    That pic doesn't really portray what the monster is. Neither that shot, or the shot of the blood around the boat are not in the movie at all... Interesting, though. There must be a lot more stuff that was created for this movie that didn't make it into the flick.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:39 p.m. CST

    Love Plus A Few Gripes...

    by Buzz Maverik

    Love the innovation. I consider all the marketing part of the actual experience.<p>So now the gripes:<a>Everybody was too clean. I got dirtier at the LA County Fair. Nobody portrayed real pain or fear or shock. Not enough screaming. Lily was barefooted and didn't even muss her petti.<p>Hud was dopey. Hudson, from ALIENS, was actually a realistic, kickass Marine. Even kickass Marines act like Hudson did in extreme stress.<p>No personality to the characters or the monster. Godzilla had personality. Even Alien had personality. Also, the ALIEN movies generally work because we have more of a working class cast. I got past this by imagining the cast of JUNO in the same situation.<p>Good movie. Better acting, less bland creatures (even in glimpses)and more grime would have elevated it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:50 p.m. CST

    Trying to put my finger on this film

    by Evil Lincoln

    I've been thinking about it ever since I left the theater trying to figure out why I didn't enjoy this movie like some of the people here did. I think one of the reasons was that I never felt the monster was dangerous outside of knocking buildings down. I know one of the characters said it was eating people but we never did see any of that. I remember watching the new WAR OF THE WORLDS movie and thinking "HOLY SHIT!!!!!" in my mind when the heat beams disintegrated people but I never felt like that watching Cloverfield.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST

    The new pic ...

    by Oomlot

    Doesn't show the monster at all, they seem to be dead whales of some variety. On another note, why do so many people want to see the cast of Juno in this situation? I haven't seen the movie yet, but I assume that means you all want those characters to be eaten or crushed or exploded in some horrible way, which says to me you want to Yuppies to live, and the people from the so called 'good' movie to die. What would Freud say about that?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:55 p.m. CST

    If you want the cast from Juno to get eaten...

    by tcb039io

    by the Cloverfield monster, I would think Freud would say you have your priorities pretty much in order. But maybe that's just me...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    SoylentMean... sequel talk

    by v1

    Here are my thoughts on a Cloverfield sequel. DON’T DO IT! I really hope they let this movie stand on it’s own. I LOVED Cloverfield, but I don’t want to see a sequel to it. <p> That being said, they could do several sequels without ever straying from the timeline of the initial attack. They could literally do sequels that take place on the same day as the first film. Obviously the experience of such an attack would vary DRASTICALLY from one person to the next, depending on the decisions made. <p> One angle that I was thinking they could follow up on is having a film crew that is making a documentary on a particular police unit. Once shit goes down, the police unit would obviously be called to action. As we’ve seen in real world scenarios, film crews are often willing to risk life and limb to capture ground breaking events. Then you have the cops being asked to risk everything for the safety of the people, during the most incredible crisis they could ever imagine. All the while the film crew records the events, and wrestle with their own willingness to risk their lives to record such an amazing event. <p> Again, although I do think it’s entirely possible to do them, but I REALLY hope they don’t do a sequel. I’m just saying…

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:59 p.m. CST

    I was promised flaming hobo's

    by BillyPilgrim

    Stupid JJ.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:07 p.m. CST

    The new 1.18.08 pic

    by v1

    Looking at the pic, I'm thinking these pics depict whales that have been attacked, killed, or partially eaten by the Monster. <p> I’m inclined to believe that if (and I say if, because the ending of the movie does not make that clear at all) the monster survived the final assault depicted in the movie, it would a) not be near the ocean, the movie ended in Central park, b) the carcass would not look at all like that. After you see the movie I think you’ll understand what I’m saying.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:09 p.m. CST

    I was promised a good movie

    by Evil Lincoln

    ...but I would have taken flaming Hobos as well!!!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:26 p.m. CST

    The movie is on the streets

    by spacebatman

    They are selling it for $5 on the street

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:31 p.m. CST

    v1

    by EvilGeek1

    Sorry for barging in but where is the new 1.18.08 pic?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:33 p.m. CST

    Never mind I got it. Cheers

    by EvilGeek1

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:37 p.m. CST

    I just saw it. It was OK, not great. (SPOILERS)

    by Orbots Commander

    I think Cloverfield is being way overpraised on this site. It was an okay, goofy monster movie. Nothing more. The 'you are there!' cam technique was at first interesting but very quickly became annoying. There was some cool stuff in the movie, like the entire subway sequence, the girl that bleeds and blows up, etc. and the trek up and across the buildings to rescue Beth. The part that lessened the movie for me? The abrupt ending. It didn't so much as end, as it just...stopped. People that saw it with me were pissed at that finale. The story needed some sort of resolution other than the present ending.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Watch the background...

    by chappai

    I saw this afternoon with a friend. I now have to go back and check on what he saw. In the scene on the ferris wheel, watch the water in the background on the right side of the screen. Something is splashing around in the water, according to him. Now I have to go back and see it again.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 6:58 p.m. CST

    OK, HERE'S THE CLOVERFIELD MONSTER

    by BurgerTime

    Don't watch it if you want to be spoiler free! http://tinyurl.com/2fxg5d

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:16 p.m. CST

    I LOVE YOU BETH!

    by skywalkerfamily

    Sniff.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:18 p.m. CST

    THIS MOVIE MAKES NO SENSE

    by Psalmolive

    Why would anybody keep the camera running? Why would anybody record? Why is it all from one person/camera's perspective? Even war zone cameramen would run, it makes no sense! And you're trying to make me believe that I'm going to care about the OLD NAVY friends with their "The OC" problems? Give me a break and give me real people. If this film were done from multiple camera viewpoints, it would be far more thrilling. Instead, it just comes across as complete and utter hackery of the highest order.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:18 p.m. CST

    $30 Million

    by Evil Lincoln

    This is why they are going to make a ton of money. Figure they'll probably take in more than half of that this first weekend. Nice to be able to be so close to being "in the black" a week after a movie is released.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST

    Here's my advice:

    by RhesusmonkeyDave

    Don't see it at midnight when your girlfriend Beth is out of town and you have to come home to a dark house. Too much to think about thx.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:21 p.m. CST

    $30 Million dollar budget that is.

    by Evil Lincoln

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:26 p.m. CST

    I had a big breakfast before seeing Cloverfield...

    by Evil Lincoln

    ...and the only thing that made my stomach queasy was the fact I paid over $20 for popcorn, a drink, and a ticket to see the film.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:40 p.m. CST

    EvilLincoln

    by EvilGeek1

    Is it true that Abrams put a bit of the end at the start (the helicopter spinning out of control)

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:47 p.m. CST

    78% on Rotten Tomatoes so far...

    by Pennsy

    Could be better...but I'll get there tres' early for the 10AM show at Franklin Mills Mall

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:54 p.m. CST

    mori...

    by jezza

    ...i really like your reviews, you're a great writer, but could you please stop prefacing every film Capone writes with a "I'm about to put up my own review of this myself"? thankyou

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:54 p.m. CST

    Knowthyself

    by FrancoNeroLuv

    So can you please clarify which american movies "Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance" is trying to imitate? and what about Japanese movies like "Gozu", "Uzumaki", and "Happiness of the Katakuris"? Japanese and Korean movies, while not always being that great, at least have the balls to experiment. Sometimes experiments work and sometimes they don't, but at least they have filmakers who are willing to risk mediocre or poor box office results to make the movie they want to make. Few american filmakers have the courage to do that. As for the Host, yes, it probably isn't the best monster movie ever made, but to say it sucked because you thought the main character was an idiot? why that's just idiotic since that is what this character is SUPPOSED to be: a guy that is so stupid that he has been a liability to everyone he knows his whole life, which is why he will do anything to save his daughter and redeem himself at least a little, as for the acting, it was neither great nor bad, I mean it was a freaking monster movie, you don't need to have award winning actors when the focus of the film is a fudging monster. And seriosuly, they don't make GOOD monster movies, regardless of country of orgin, they make COOL monster movies. The only thing that is important is that they make ENTERTAINING monster movies which both the host and Cloverfield have done but neither movie is GOOD. I prefer The Host because at least the people making that movie didn't try to cop-out of special effects by hiding the monster for most of the movie. Horror movies are not exactly known for they're exceptional characters, and neither Cloverfield or The Host do anything to change that. But Cloverfield's characters were not interesting or likeable enough to be the focal point of the movie, this should have been a survival movie not a love story/rescue movie. Oh and by the way, Rob is also an idiot, If you need the impending threat of death by monster to fight for the woman you love, then you do not deserve her love.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 7:55 p.m. CST

    No way. This was good.

    by FluffyUnbound

    I wasn't the slightest bit disappointed. For a change. At all. My expectations were actually exceeded, because I had read over and over that I would hate the characters and I actually kind of liked them, although I thought going for Beth was stupid like everyone else. The scene where Rob tells his mother on the phone that Jason bought it was actually kind of touching. But to me everything pales beside the simple fact that this was the most realistic take on a monster attack on a city that I've ever seen, or could really possibly imagine. Come on, this movie has forty five straight minutes of the most intense giant monster movie action ever put on film. There's nothing else even in the same ballpark.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:01 p.m. CST

    Loved the characters in The Host

    by EvilGeek1

    Hilarity, emotion, action, suspense and a great-looking monster above all else. They should have done the 90's Godzilla. T'would have kicked ass!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:06 p.m. CST

    I'm really surprised...

    by EvilGeek1

    By all the positive feedback. It doesn't hit Dublin 'till Feb 1st and I've been absorbing every little morsel of spoiler information I can get. This movie is like an experiment for me. I want to see if removing the element of surprise and shock will lessen or better the movie.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:11 p.m. CST

    Just saw it

    by ewokstew

    I get motion sickness fairly easily so I knew I was taking a chance. Despite this, I enjoyed this flick a whole lot. I can't say much about it that hasn't been said already other than next time I watch...and there will be a next time...I'll pop a Dramamine.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:13 p.m. CST

    I know what the Cloverfield Monster is...

    by ChurchMouse

    Ok, call me crazy, but I think I figured out what the Cloverfield monster is based on. Wrote a little review, and have spoiler markers in it for those of you who don't want the film spoiled. http://gloomygus.org/foruma/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=176 Soo, so, am I crazy, Oh, and the shaky camera made me queasy too. Spent 3/4 of the film with my eyes closed.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:21 p.m. CST

    So the one chick in the first chopper survived the mess?

    by KongMonkey

    Or was that flaming debris hitting the streets when the second chopper was taking off the first helicopter? Hell if she survived the whole mess while her buddies wound up smoldering in central park then a sequel with her involved doesn't sound far fetched. Decent movie, nothing monumental or memorable in the realm of godzilla or kong. But still a damn good flick.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:22 p.m. CST

    Who wants to play the Penis Game?

    by EvilGeek1

    Put "penis" in a movie title. eg. P.S I Love Penis

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:27 p.m. CST

    Good fun but very flawed

    by TheLastCleric

    It's a good film and it's got some genuine thrills but at the same time it's an incredibly flawed movie that could have been great rather than merely good had some better choices been made by the producers and the director. The thing that really annoyed me is how badly the shaky-cam aspect is applied; the film looks like it was shot like a regular movie and then put through some sort of shake filter. So many of the action scenes are framed perfectly and the character Hud literally disregards his own safety to get the money shots. SPOILER ALERT - When the creature attacks and collapses the bridge, Hud literally shoots it falling apart as he is running away from impending death. Another example is the cliché "hit the lights and the monsters are illuminated and waiting" scene in the subway that has been done in practically every creature feature ever made. It's such a Hollywood moment and it completely ruins the illusion that we are watching real, raw film. The footage isn't deliberate or abrupt enough to be taken as "real"; even the scenes that do work, such as Lady Liberty's head bouncing down the street, evoke reactions from the actors that seem underwhelming given the gravity of the situation. That said, the monster is badass and the scenes where it is wrecking havoc are quite thrilling, which is why I can't understand why Abrams opted to do the shaky cam thing at all. This would have been a much better film had it been a straight, uncompromised monster flick rather than some hip, gimmicky endeavor. Say what you will about the Blair Witch Project but it sold the notion of raw, salvaged and unrehearsed footage whereas Cloverfield never comes off as anything but a large-scale monster flick crippled by a poor decision to go handheld. I did enjoy the film but it could have been so much more. It's fun, I'll see it again and even buy it on DVD, but I think it pales in comparison to The Mist. And yes, these films warrant direct comparison.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:30 p.m. CST

    EvilGeek1

    by tcb039io

    I'll let you play with the penis, thanks.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:38 p.m. CST

    How To Lose A Penis In Ten Days

    by EvilGeek1

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:40 p.m. CST

    Cleric

    by FluffyUnbound

    "That said, the monster is badass and the scenes where it is wrecking havoc are quite thrilling, which is why I can't understand why Abrams opted to do the shaky cam thing at all." Gotta disagree. With standard cinematography the monster scenes would be like the Matthew Broderick Godzilla. "even the scenes that do work, such as Lady Liberty's head bouncing down the street, evoke reactions from the actors that seem underwhelming given the gravity of the situation." Disagree here, too. The cognitive dissonance is too great to scream. The reaction of the people on the street was funny because it was true. I think the real genesis of this movie is the scene where they see the building collapse and the wall of dust and debris comes at them and they jump into the convenience store just as everything goes grey and black. Obviously, this is just about a shot for shot steal of some famous 9/11 footage - and the thing about that footage is that it's more intense than any footage Hollywood has ever shot. Of anything. Ever. The handheld approach is designed to try to get as close as possible to that level of intensity across an entire movie. Obviously that can't be done - but I'm impressed that they tried.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:51 p.m. CST

    Raiders of the Lost Penis

    by EvilGeek1

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 8:52 p.m. CST

    This move is simply "Okay". Alot of incomprensible bullshit-

    by TallBoy66

    Mixed up with some riveting "you are there" immediacy. Combine it with a buch of narrisistic yuppie tools as main characters (aside from the camera man), and simply beating the idea into you of 9/11 (with monsters) leads to a mixed, but at times entertaining movie. I have. No. Fucking. Clue. How everyone on AICN fell for it, hook, line, and sinker. Kind of makes me sad, really, and maybe belive this site is alot of payola. Lame.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:15 p.m. CST

    NEW PHOTOS - WWW.1-18-08.COM

    by Sovikos

    On the 1-18-08 website, they have new pictures up. (Not from the movie) and in one of them it looks like the "Cloverfield/Slusho" monster is dead... in pieces by the shore. But this could just be a whale or something it ate.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:15 p.m. CST

    Night of the Living Penis

    by EvilGeek1

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:16 p.m. CST

    My problem with Cloverfield

    by pauliedcker

    Other than this I thought it was great but how in the world do the characters at the end not know the monster nearby (before copter crash and Hud's encounter. That thing was the size of a block so it wouldnt sneak up on them but it does so. This happened twice and I excused it the first time but I couldnt buy it the second time. I know I need to suspend disbelief but thats a stretch.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:17 p.m. CST

    Hey, knocking spelling errors is always a good way to make a poi

    by TallBoy66

    Incomprehensible. As in "not being able to comprehend" the action on screen. As in I know that's the central conceit, that you’re watching found footage, but isn't nearly as cool as it thinks it is. It's okay. There's moments when the audience is right fuckin there in the moment, and alot of moments when it simply degenerates into noise and chaos - and not in a good way, but in a really irritating and off-putting way.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:21 p.m. CST

    However, if you want to be "hardcore"-

    by TallBoy66

    -and say "Yeah, man! If you can't handle the badass camera of Cloverfield THAN YOU'RE A FUCKIN WIMP AND GO HOME AND CRY TO MAMA!!" Then, well, good for you. I hope it makes you feel better that you could watch a movie as an endurance test. You want a freakin’ medal?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:21 p.m. CST

    SLUSHO = a Modified Bat??

    by Sovikos

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:21 p.m. CST

    All the monster wanted was someone to hug

    by skywalkerfamily

    sniff.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:25 p.m. CST

    you lost me at...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    ..."young, good-looking folks who have some degree of bravery between them." - i desperately want to see "parts" of this movie - but every negative review i read focuses on the lame characters - i think ill wait for the dvd and rent it

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:35 p.m. CST

    People are going to be mad about

    by Series7

    the way the trailers and TV spots portrayed this movie. BUT its kind of makes sense, because besides the way they did it, the only way you promote this movie as a Paula Zhan exclusive clip or some shit from CNN. I really enjoyed this movie, but its going to get a lot of backlash because dumb people (namely teenagers) are not going to understand it. They wanted Godzilla (which in deepest part of my heart I know I enjoyed more fuck what you think). But this movie its almost like JJ saw all that 911 footage then changed the channel to TBS/BET/CW (or WB at the time) to Godzilla and was like.... HOW CAN I combine this... DING! Out pops Cloverfield somemany years later. (CAN'T remember when 9/11 happend?).

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:38 p.m. CST

    9/11/01

    by Sovikos

    LOL...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Massawrym was right about the monster...

    by EvilGeek1

    It's not one of those "oh cool" monsters, but rather a "what the fuck is that?" monster. Which ironically is actually very cool.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST

    There is gonna be a sequel?

    by Requiem4aJerk

    This movie was awesome, t kept my heart pumping full of adrenaline the whole time I sat in my seat. Also, nobody got up to go to the toilet becuz their eyes were glued to the screen. JJ Abrams is a God like Bono. I am so sure there is gonna be a sequel becuz it is a huge hit and also a lot questions are left unanswered which worked great for me. The creature was amazing, I was in complete awe of its look and demeanor especially when it gobbled up the camara guy-dude-bestfriend. AS far as the ending goes, I swear that the beast lives. The gov. found the tape to find out exactly what it was facing or creating.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:47 p.m. CST

    Not sure

    by Series7

    Why I go to Rotten Tomatoes and all the reviewers are like????? I DON'T KNOW HOW TO REVIEW THIS? UMM its not that hard to review, its like a big budget Blair Witch, Harry nailed it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:47 p.m. CST

    those mini-monsters were ridiculous!!!!

    by Boomers_Lips

    lol. they made me laff.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Requiem4aJerk

    by EvilGeek1

    "A God like Bono"??? Please tell me that was a joke. I'm Irish and even I'm ashamed of Bono. He's got millions but he asks us to help the poor. Maybe Bono could save those poor whales in that new Cloverfield pic...Lol

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Horses for courses motherfucker

    by theoneofblood

    Did I at any point attack anyone else for liking this movie? Did I say: "Anyone who likes this movie is worse than HITLER!" No. I just stated my opinion of the picture, which is not that it was awful, just mediocre. <p> I really don't understand this trend in critical review these days for something to only be seen in black and white. Either it sucked unholy ass or it was better than a threesome with two supermodels. <p> I posited what I thought would be a better treatment of the same concept, which I did fundamentally like. The whole unexplained business didn't really bother me, nor the bizarrely indestructible nature of the creature which, despite some less than amazing design and cgi, could have been severely awesome. I did like a lot of elements of the movie, including the Starship Troopers sea-mites. Though I must say I thought the "reveal in the darkness" moment in the subway was incredibly hackneyed and really obvious. Every monster movie ever has pretty much done that same shot. If you don't like my idea, fine. It doesn't really matter seeing as neither of us are in much of a position to make such a film anyway, but I just thought I'd show that I did like the idea and just found the execution stupid. <p> It's interesting that people are bringing up 28 Weeks later as a comparison because I really loved that movie. Even the teleporting dad zombie moment. I accepted that bit of silliness largely because the movie had earned my trust with the awesome attack on the farmhouse, gouging of eyeballs, sniper run, soldier roast, helicopter/lawnmower scene, napalming of London etc etc. I could tolerate a bit of plot inconsistency. Besides, that last shot in the movie was the fucking TITS. <p> So in summary, calm the fuck down. I didn't like the movie as much as you did, boohoo. Learn to accept that humans are capable of having DIFFERENT FUCKING OPINIONS.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:50 p.m. CST

    Fluffyunbound, The problem is that

    by TheLastCleric

    the footage of the beast, or at least most of it, is actually shot like a standard film, especially that last closeup which would look more at home in Jurassic Park than a "handycam" flick. I think the tension would have been just as effective if the film had been shot straight. (let's face it, the Broderick Gozilla sucked for a thousand reasons but clear shots of the monster wasn't one of them) As to the Liberty Head, you may be right and I certainly agree that the 9/11 allusions summoned when the buildings start to fall are the real money shots at the start of the film. I'll have to watch it again to decide if I think the Liberty head scene was genuine or satirical. Regardless, I still think the film would have been better as a standard film.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:51 p.m. CST

    what happened to Marlena???

    by Boomers_Lips

    i actually started to like her and was sad to see her explode or whatever it is that happened to her.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:53 p.m. CST

    Movie was ok, not as hugely great as all that

    by kem070396

    It was riviting, but the handcam POV made me miss some stuff,I am sure...My own take regarding a sequel: if the recovered the tape, they had to dig it out of the tunnel; monster had to have been killed for them to be able to do that IMHO; I also did not see the oft mentioned far away splash, so I am very eager to learn of its origins. And here's a good question: if Hud got "chomped", why was he lying in the meadow afterwards? That big a mouth he'd a been monster-chow. Just my story and I am sticking to it!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:54 p.m. CST

    what Teleporting Zombie-Dad moment from 28 Weeks Later?

    by Boomers_Lips

    what scene was that?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:54 p.m. CST

    Bono is no God

    by Requiem4aJerk

    After the ending credits have completely run through, garbled radio static can be heard with the phrase "It's still alive" played in reverse

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Phew! You had me worried Requiem...

    by EvilGeek1

    Yeah, when was Robert Carlyle teleporting? I'm curious...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:06 p.m. CST

    Teleporting Robert Carlyle

    by theoneofblood

    The Subway sequence is what people are referring to. It's a bit silly that out of the hundreds of infected it happens to be HIM who is down there of all places. It's a bit of narrative convenience to create a dramatic moment out of thin air, but it's pretty much the only moment like that in the whole movie so who cares? It's still awesome.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:06 p.m. CST

    EvilGeek1

    by Requiem4aJerk

    Don't trip, it was a joke. Sorry to worry you. Did you like the movie or what?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:09 p.m. CST

    RIGHT HERE

    by tme2nsb

    http://www.dailymotion.com/search/cloverfield/video/x439xp_cloverfield-monster-footage-2-new_shortfilms

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Dailymotion Link - THE MONSTER EATS HUD

    by tme2nsb

    http://www.dailymotion.com/search/cloverfield/video/x439xp_cloverfield-monster-footage-2-new_shortfilms

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:09 p.m. CST

    Yeah 28 weeks was a damn good sequel...

    by EvilGeek1

    I'm just waiting for Imogen poots to be legal. Hey Xiphos! What's the haps? Long time, no argument.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:11 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah and... <Spoiler warning>

    by theoneofblood

    That moment of handheld footage from the perspective of Rose Byrne, shot entirely in night-vision? Creepier and tenser than anything in Cloverfield. That's how you use unseen elements in framing effectively. To top it all off <p> SPOILER WARNING <p> We then see that same perspective as she gets BRUTALLY FUCKING BEATEN TO DEATH <p> END SPOILER <p> I think I'm going to watch that movie again. Bliss.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:13 p.m. CST

    sNIFF sNIFF Eat.

    by tme2nsb

    I love that end. Sorry, VERY EXCITED about the movie. BEAST FUCKING MOVIE OF DA YEAR.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:13 p.m. CST

    a woman vomited in my theater during Cloverfield

    by Boomers_Lips

    i dont know if it was because of the wacky camera work or if she just didnt like the movie.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:14 p.m. CST

    My friend almost got killed by a lion once

    by TerryMalloy

    when he went on a safari in Africa. So lions are pretty scary. Anybody remember The Ghost and the Darkness? I like that crappy movie.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:23 p.m. CST

    Why does shit blow up before the army gets there?

    by Atticus Finch

    When they go to the roof and see that first explosion, what was exploding? I mean, if the monster smashed a building, it wouldn't go up in a huge fireball like that.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:24 p.m. CST

    Lions are scary as hell TerryMalloy

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    Ghost and the Darkness is a guilty pleasure of mine.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:25 p.m. CST

    Broderick Godzilla was a crime against celluloid

    by theoneofblood

    But even then, the actual scenes of the monster fucking shit up were pretty cool. Godzilla eats a helicopter, smashes some buildings, breathes radioactive fire and generally stomps shit. Everything else in that movie was blasphemy, particularly the weak-ass ending, but the eating of the chopper bit I liked.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:26 p.m. CST

    1-18-08.com your all wrong

    by AlphaTrion

    theres a night vision picture of the navy blasting something in the water. those pictures are of the dead monster, not whales. whats wrong with you people?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Lions are scary

    by TerryMalloy

    But I think I'm more scared of bears.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:29 p.m. CST

    Broderick Godzilla

    by TerryMalloy

    Weren't there raptors in that movie or something? I haven't seen that in forever.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:30 p.m. CST

    The monster and its motives

    by jokayhn

    Someone said it was a sea monster and it should want to go back to the sea. Why is it running around in Manhatten, etc. Who says the military hasnt contrained it to Manhatten or any number of other reasons. First off, no one said it was a sea monster. You don't know if its from outerspace or if it crawled out of a crevace, sorry, crevice. You dont know anything about it. Thats the point. This isn't about the monster and no one ever said it was. This movie isn't named Godzilla or Monster that struck New York. Its just a video found in Central Park after the event. It tells a story in a non traditional manner. Would someone go up a building that looks like it can collapse any moment to save someone they love? Thats what love is all about...if you know what love is and aren't completely selfish. What would you do if the &^*% hit the fan and you didnt have the one you love right there next to you. Thats what makes it realistic for someone to run THE WRONG WAY down a street with a giant slug whatever crashing down it. That seemingly crazy decision is what makes it realistic. As for the CGI, I've never seen better. Everything looks like it belongs and what I think is really amazing about it is the camera itself is not stationary nor is it clearly a virtual camera inside a CGI engine. Whoever had to put it together had to keep things moving and in relation to a moving jittery camera. Its not shakey cam. Its filmed in a way any normal person would film, thinking about splicing it together later on. It is difficult to watch and it will turn people off for that reason. But it was also necessary. I was surprised to hear people seemingly disappointd at the credits. Did they not know what they were getting into from the beginning (yes I saw the comment above). I mean it says up front the footage was found. That means, SPOILER to follow, no one is going to be left to take it to the media. Someone complained about how this is an invalid point. That we have all seen the trailer and therefore must have understood it would be a complete film in the manner of a home video. I expected that and I expected the cuts and non traditional beginning and end, but that doesnt mean everyone did. It seemed the teenagers around me expected the story to be spoon fed to them, that it would be about the monster and there would be resolution. The fact is there was clear resolution, just not necessarily about everything the viewer may have wanted, going in, to have resolved.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Soylent - you're right about the Fs

    by Eaglet1138

    I think I cursed more in my seat than those New Yorkers did in the entire film. They would have been rattling Fs every other word, and it was VERY distracting that they weren't. I still loved the film, though.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Broderick Godzilla had a Roger Ebert looking Mayor!

    by Boomers_Lips

    and there was a Siskel too!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Atticus Finch

    by Requiem4aJerk

    It could have been a missed missile. Geez, why do folks always bitch, moan and complaint like they would have directed a better film. The film was great. Simple as that. I went to get a beer at the store and the Asian store owner told me that our film was better than Godzilla. There will be a sequel and it will be better than this. This is an experiment film.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:30 p.m. CST

    Just Got Back From Cloverfield...

    by That 70s Venom

    Fucking amazing film. 10/10 5 stars for me all the way baby. Movie of the year probably at least until Iron Man, Dark Knight or Dragonball for me. Anyway... the monster was fuckin crazy. He's like this agile, human gorilla shrimp crab mother fucker with a long ass tail. Wow, what a fuckin masterpiece of a movie. There are a lot more shots of the monster than a lot of people are saying. You get to see like 6 or 7 pretty clear shots of him where you can really see what he looks like. Some of them are far away and some close up. One of the scariest scenes of all is when HUD is capturing the creature on his camera when they are up in the chopper right before they get smacked down by him. He's just like crawling through New York manuevering in between the buildings like a fucking giant scorpion on crack just destroying anything and everything. Come to think of it, the monster reminds me a lot of the Hydralisk of the Zerg race from StarCraft... only it's a huge fucking Hydralisk with more of a humanesque head instead of like a Xenomorph head. Fucking trippy shit. GO SEE THIS MOVIE.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:31 p.m. CST

    Yackbacker...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i used to live in nyc - i left 3 yrs ago - i lived in wash. heights - nyc is a big city - even for a 50 story high monster - i think in a situation like this im sure one could find plenty of safe nooks and crannies to hold up in (with food and water) - i was on the subway going to work when the towers got hit - the a train - it was stopped at 42nd and emptied - all trains were - i watched the towers fall with hundreds of others on one of the jumbotrons in times square - we were all kinda like "is this for real" - because we were watching it on a giant tv it felt fake - then it sank in and i took off to meet my brother at his job uptown - everyone was walking - no buses cabs or trains - thousands walking in the streets - it was a beautiful sunny day

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:31 p.m. CST

    id be more worried about the parasites falling off the monster

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST

    Alpha Trion

    by EvilGeek1

    Why would they put that up on the site (especially when most of Europe won't see this movie for another two weeks)?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:39 p.m. CST

    The movie

    by HOTDOGVNDR

    was awesome, until it ended. I would've liked some non-handheld footage at the end for a wrap up. Maybe just news footage of what happened. They could have the channel change on the television and each change the news broadcast moves a little further in time, giving more info on the attack and the monster as they find out about it. THE MOVIE WAS FUCKING AWESOME THOUGH. I don't want that FACT to get lost. Anything that us geeks found out about Slusho, Tagruato or Tidawave, means dick. Except for your own assumptions. THE MOVIE WAS FUCKING AWESOME THOUGH.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:40 p.m. CST

    Fear & Loathing in Las Penis

    by EvilGeek1

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Also, the little monsters...

    by That 70s Venom

    ... the little parasites... they do look like smaller versions of the Starship Trooper bugs, except their limbs aren't as firm. Their legs are more spongy and soft and squishy sort of like a mix between the texture of a spider's legs and an octopus's tentacles. One freaky part is when Rob and HUD are trying to get the nightvision to work on Rob's camera in the dark subway and then they suddenly pop the night vision on and the little parasites are crawling right behind them on the walls and ceiling.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST

    Remember when Mori

    by TerryMalloy

    promised us that he was going to post his review of Cloverfield and he totally didn't? You hurt me, Mori. You constantly don't follow through on your promises. And it hurts.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:42 p.m. CST

    was the monster a boy or a girl?

    by Boomers_Lips

    they never showed it's genitals.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Boomers_Lips... I think it's a boy because...

    by That 70s Venom

    ... I seem to remember J.J. Abrams in an interview saying something like "He is just a baby, and he is confused and scared and doesn't understand why these small people are trying to hurt him." or something to that effect.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:46 p.m. CST

    Hooray for no F bombs

    by rainbowtrout1265

    I thought it was refreshing to not hear someone screaming the F word a thousand times, ala the obnoxious Heather Donahue in Blair Witch.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:50 p.m. CST

    I would so be dropping F bombs

    by TerryMalloy

    If I was being stalked by a witch or running away from a giant sea lion attacking NYC

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:50 p.m. CST

    i'd be dropping F & S bombs if mini-monsters were running after

    by Boomers_Lips

    in the subway tunnels no less!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:51 p.m. CST

    Also, the ending...

    by That 70s Venom

    ... yeah they could've executed the ending a little better so that it didn't leave the audience with a sour taste in their mouths but regardless this movie ROCKED. I agree with you a little bit there Hot Dog Vendor about how they could've done like a news report at the end or something to give people a little more info, but at the same time I have to admit that the way they ended it leaves me excited to see a sequal. These are smart filmmakers we're dealing with here. Not Uwe Boll or some other retarded dip shit. These guys know how to psyche an audience up.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:53 p.m. CST

    All You Need To Know About "Cloverfield."

    by www.valiens.com

    Sit in the back of the theater lest your eyes fall out of your head from all the shaky hand held footage. Also, if you don't think the movie is a work of complete genius, you're a moron who needs closure spoon-fed to you. If you think the acting sucks you are not an actor and don't know anything about acting. That's all. I have properly equipped you for this experience. Go now...and never look back.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:53 p.m. CST

    you see under the monster inbetween legs.. most likely a cloaca

    by ironic_name

    cloaca

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:55 p.m. CST

    birds have cloacas

    by ironic_name

    hard to tell if they're boy or girls.. fish are wweirder. i won't fix spelling mistakes.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:58 p.m. CST

    It comes from the sea,

    by HOTDOGVNDR

    Fo' sho. FO' SHO. http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/06/video-footage-of-cloverfield-monster-destroying-chaui-station-rob-hired-by-slusho/

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 10:59 p.m. CST

    Horses

    by TerryMalloy

    You can tell pretty easy if they are male of female.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11 p.m. CST

    scene with soldier guy with giant hole in stomach

    by Boomers_Lips

    when the fab four got to the mall, they showed a quick scene with a solider guy being taken somewhere on a bed. did something burst out from the soldier guy's abdomen or what?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Did anyone notice on the 1-18-08.com site...

    by IndianaJonesin

    That you can flip the pictures over? I didn't know this before and I'm not sure if it's common knowledge. Forgive me if it is! :)

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:12 p.m. CST

    One thing I was confused about...

    by torpor_haze

    From all the marketing I assumed the events in movie actually happen on 1/18/08 as a gimmick.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:16 p.m. CST

    So, it was a giant lion afterall...

    by The Dum Guy

    It had a long tail.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:18 p.m. CST

    Excellent cinematic experiece....STAY THROUGH THE CREDITS

    by cromwell1666

    If u didn't know, a hugely important soundclip concludes the credits.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST

    I got my money's worth

    by ebonic_plague

    Fucking pissed off giant monster smashing and eating New York, hell yeah I'd say that was a good movie, and even pretty hardcore for a PG13, what with the exploded people and flinchworthy rebar extractions. One thing took me out of it, though, I kept wondering what was going through the mind of the DoD official who first watched this "found" videotape, as he analyzed the first 30 minutes of pre-attack party footage. "Haha! 'Good luck tonite, Travis!' Hey, Johnson, you gotta get in here, listen to what this guy said now."

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:23 p.m. CST

    Monster equals Muslim Terrorists

    by H_Chinaski

    Just got home from seeing it for the first time (will see it again tomorrow afternoon). It was great, enough that I want to see it again. I am a 56 year old guy that loves FPS games and love Bioshock and Crysis, so I like this shit. First off, the Ironman previews are fucking awesome! I grew up in the sixties with the original Ironman and the previews are perfect. The Star Trek thing did not impress me, although it was well done. Cloverfield was quite an experience; I enjoyed it and will see it again at another theater closer to home. Had to see it at an inferior theater last night in town, since my favorite multiplex will not start showing it until tomorrow, but the sound was still awesome. It seemed like it was over too soon, I was totally riveted to my seat. I have wasted my time reading a lot of BS on the web, and this site too, about the meaning of this flick and the metaphor of 9-11. It seemed very clear to me, yet I have not seen anyone mention this yet. The fear that is aroused in everyone is the fear we all felt at being attacked by terrorists. The evil was unknown. It is my opinion (I expect a lot of shit for this) that the dreaded “thing” destroying our lives is the Muslim extremists and the monster represents all of the unknown evil that religious extremists foster, like child suicide bombers and all that BS. The monster is Mohammed, and he is winning. The message seemed really clear to me.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:25 p.m. CST

    Re: new pics on 1-18-08.com

    by slayers bitch

    Regarding the new pic on the 01-18-08.com site that someone posted was the monster all blowed up.......It is so obviously a bunch of sea mammals with bites taken out of them. There is a sperm whale in the background (it is lying on it's side-it has a bite out of it's head- you can see into its open mouth), the carcass on the right appears to be a humpback whale or maybe a blue whale- (you can see its flipper), and the animal in foreground looks like a close up of a whale eye.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST

    The End...

    by HOTDOGVNDR

    Nuke or Napalm?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:27 p.m. CST

    maybe the monster represens the current administration

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:28 p.m. CST

    Why casual film goers will hate it-

    by cromwell1666

    Most people NEED convention in presentation,i.e. linear plot with clear answers in the end. They get angry and frustrated when they don't get it. You will hear exclamations from people who just have to let everyone know "That was sooo stupid!" I remember at Fellowship some Nascar dude exclaiming "What a Ripoff!!!" when Frodo and Sam walked towards Mordor and the film ended. I noticed similar frustration with films like Run Lola Run and Vanilla Sky. When convention is twisted or experimented with even in the slightest(its not like its Maya Deren or Stan Brackhage) there is violent resistance and hatred. Stupid people don't like thoughts and feelings and when they are forced upon them by something, they can't take it and blurt. Must be some sort of psychological defense mechanism to justify the vacuum.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:28 p.m. CST

    DID ANYONE NOTICE...

    by BigBlackDude

    ...in that flashback footage near the end when Rob and his girl are on that park ride. He pan's the camera across the ocean and you see something fall from the sky and into the water. Can somebody please confirm so I don't think I'm crazy.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:30 p.m. CST

    Monster equals lion

    by TerryMalloy

    We are all scared of being attacked by lions and all the unknown evil that carnivores foster, like killing their own young and all that BS. The monster is Simba, and he is winning. The message seemed really clear to me.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:31 p.m. CST

    Boomers_Lips

    by Requiem4aJerk

    I believe the soldier bursted open just like that chick except his was from smaller bites (maybe one tooth) instead of the massive bite that she had

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:32 p.m. CST

    A fun thrill ride....

    by samuraiyao

    Wish it was longer but who knows how Duracell batteries last on a handheld camera...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:32 p.m. CST

    torpor_haze

    by Requiem4aJerk

    Its all a gimmick

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:34 p.m. CST

    You guys suck at spoiler warnings

    by TerryMalloy

    Seriously.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:35 p.m. CST

    good movie but i'm still undecided about shakey cam

    by sokitome

    there were people who were literally not looking at the film cause it was makin them so dizzy. I liked the film but if it wasn't so shaky i think it still would have worked, ala "the Mist". I think it is a good piece of film making but the shaky video cam i thnk will hold it's numbers back in the box office as alot of people in my screening did not like it at all but maybe other screening it won't be so bad.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:36 p.m. CST

    1-18-08 Pics

    by chadini

    If you "flip" over the pics, a few have writing on the back and one (from the Japanese restaurant) is all in Japanese - or Chinese, I don't know which.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:36 p.m. CST

    TerryMalloy....

    by torpor_haze

    Its just the nature of this site...every post is potentially a spoiler.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:36 p.m. CST

    Imagine watching this movie on a tiny ipod

    by skywalkerfamily

    You wanna talk about motion sickness!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:37 p.m. CST

    i wont lie, i wanted to get up and leave

    by Boomers_Lips

    cause of the shaky camera work. but i stuck with it because i wanted to see the monster & the mini-monsters.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Clover-Lost

    by Specimen64

    Everything about this story smacks of a Lost-Cloverfield connection.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:38 p.m. CST

    Yeah, I know

    by TerryMalloy

    but no one even tries anymore.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:38 p.m. CST

    I'm not good at FPS games...

    by samuraiyao

    Yeah i know what you mean about that shaky cam shit... I got light headed and almost fainted from it...

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:39 p.m. CST

    Film will seem less shaky on smaller screen

    by cromwell1666

    Just like Blair Witch. Very much looking forward to dvd. BTW, whre was Jamie? In all of th marketing, but not in the film? There is prob a much larger plan here than most are aware.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:39 p.m. CST

    WTF WAS THE FIRST EXPLOSION

    by LittleDudes

    The one you see in the trailers, the first visual sign of the attack? Anyone know?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:40 p.m. CST

    first explosion explained

    by Boomers_Lips

    monster arriving in the city?

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:41 p.m. CST

    Pay for the movie do not worry about spoilers.

    by Requiem4aJerk

    Why are you b*%#ing and moaning to folks that have paid to see the film. You shouls not log on and bi^&*about things. Its for losers. The same losers that missed out on opening day of Cloverfield DAh???

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:42 p.m. CST

    cromwell...you're spot on.

    by torpor_haze

    Happened exactly like you said at my screening and I expected it. Most people were groaning and bitching at the end. You know who actually liked it, they were those who walked out the theater quietly. What a world we live in.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:42 p.m. CST

    the looting scene was great.

    by Boomers_Lips

    theres a giant monster & mini-monsters destroying the city and all they can think of is getting plasma tv's.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:44 p.m. CST

    LOL- Sw the film..still looking for clues on the viral sites!!

    by cromwell1666

    Brilliant stuff. I have a feeling that rumination will add much depth here in regards to the collective subconscious.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:45 p.m. CST

    Dharma Initiative

    by BlackIronPrison

    look closely at the beginning when the timecode and colorbars are playing. they show the Dharma symbol for the pearl for a split second. Hmmmmmm...wonder if they're connected somehow, besides being a product of J.J. that is. Maybe its just an in-joke? Anyone...anyone???

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:45 p.m. CST

    IT IS AN ALIEN

    by Kirbymanly

    --SPOILER-- During the last bit of "footage" when we see Rob and Beth in Coney Island... look to the right hand side of the screen when the camera is looking at the ocean. A large "thing" falls from the sky in the distance and splashes into the ocean. Did no one else see that?!

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:45 p.m. CST

    I'm not b!#!@ing

    by TerryMalloy

    mother f@#$er

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:46 p.m. CST

    the monster had 8 legs?

    by Boomers_Lips

    im referring to the scene at central park when it sneaks up behind the Fab 3. then they show some red bubbles from both sides of it's head and some stuff falling from it.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:48 p.m. CST

    final scene at Coney Island, someone post a pic

    by Boomers_Lips

    of the scene where something supposedly crashing into the ocean from the sky.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:51 p.m. CST

    torpor_haze

    by Requiem4aJerk

    wHEN i LEFT QUIETLY ALL i HEARD WAS "WOW, THAT WAS GREAT, I WISH THAT IT WAS LONGER." YOU ARE EXACTLY RIGHT THOUGH BECUZ I WAS ONE OF THE FEW TO LEAVE AWAY CONTENT. I DID NOT HAVE TO STAY BEHIND AND LISTEN TO A FAKE HOLLYWOOD CROWD STANCE OR VIEW ON A FILM. UPSET BECUZ THEY DID NOT GET THE ROLE OF THE ACTORS OR OF CLOVERFIELD PROJECT

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:53 p.m. CST

    Something def. fell from the sky

    by cromwell1666

    I don't think this film is even the main event here. My guess is there is much more to come.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:55 p.m. CST

    Coney Island Info

    by HOTDOGVNDR

    http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/18/where-do-cloverfield-monsters-come-from/

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 11:59 p.m. CST

    Entire Theater "That was crap"

    by Kyboc7th

    And I agree, a movie that goes no where does nothing and in the end COPS OUT on an actual ending. You don't see the Island Get leveled. There is absolutely no closure! At the end of the movie All you could hear is that was crap! bs ending. Waste of money and comments like at least it was free. UWE Boll has competition for worst films ever.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, midnight CST

    i wont lie...i liked it alot.

    by Boomers_Lips

    i wish it had gone on longer.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:01 a.m. CST

    the 2 people i went with disliked it and didnt get it.

    by Boomers_Lips

    i had to keep explaining stuff to them most of the time.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:03 a.m. CST

    Boomers_Lips

    by Requiem4aJerk

    People are idiots.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Yeah. People is dumb.

    by TerryMalloy

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Kyboc7th

    by cromwell1666

    Why do you need closure? I am much more intellctually aroused with its ended than if it had closure? Does everyfilm need to meet your pre-determined formula? Most films with closure are awful, so why use that as a barometer anyway?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Ending is Perfect 2 me not the world (dumb)

    by Requiem4aJerk

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:07 a.m. CST

    Comparitively speaking.....

    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:07 a.m. CST

    it worked

    by AlphaTrion

    i think it worked well. if you let it. cant wait until cgi is mastered.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:08 a.m. CST

    Well that's interesting

    by Oomlot

    They seem to be closing the viral sites down. T.I.D.O has apparently been classified by the external affairs department (whatever that may be, I don't know enough about U.S. government agencies apparently), and Tagruato is similarly closed (but no less incomprehensibly, since it's written in Japanese). I like that there is some closure going on.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:09 a.m. CST

    by Pariah74

    I thought this was "Ain't It Cool".com and not "Ain't I too Cool for Everything".com. This movie was a fun popcorn monster flick. If you went into it expecting more than a monster movie, perhaps you need to step back and examine why you are such a complete tit.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Oh, and the Jamie & Teddy site has a new video

    by Oomlot

    She really does have nice tits, too bad Teddy is at the bottom of the ocean (presumably). Mind you, I wouldn't want to spend a lot of time with her, seeing as she is totally out of her mind on the Slurm.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:11 a.m. CST

    Bottom line from me

    by cromwell1666

    I saw Cloverrfield 10 hours ago and I am still engaged.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:13 a.m. CST

    So my room mate just came home

    by Juggernaut125

    from seeing this tonight... He felt ill from the hurky-motion technique. And his review of the film was not good. He didn't care for the characters... because they were all a bunch of pretty boys and girls. (I guess that's what the population of New York is made up of.) He couldn't wait for them to die, he said. And also thought that the dialogue was terrible as well. The tiny creatures that fell from the monster annoyed him with the sounds that they made... generally an unpleasant experience for him over all. But still, I think I'll see this next week, or the week after that. Who knows.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:13 a.m. CST

    Comparitively speaking.....

    by Half-Baked-Goggle-Box-Do-Gooder

    Saw "No Country For Old Men" Wednesday Night. After the layering, symbolism and sublety of THAT, "Cloverfield" was like a hit of capsacin. No "What does THAT mean?" in THIS movie, that's for sure. A straightforward, artless representation of a disaster from the viewpoints of those in the middle of it. Saw "I Am Legend" after "Cloverfield", and "I Am Legend", after the eerie first half hour, went completely to shit. Shitty FX, Neville was pretty stupid and careless for a Smart Guy and the "Power of Prayer" horseshit at the end made me wanna vomit.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Juggernaut

    by cromwell1666

    Your roommate is obviously an intellectual giant.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:15 a.m. CST

    Closure, as in...

    by Oomlot

    The web sites are 'closing'. Didn't mean to make it sound like dime store psychoanalysis.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:17 a.m. CST

    the subway scene was funny.

    by Boomers_Lips

    when the dude is trying to console Marlena after watching his friends do the same. Marlena's facial expression the whole time was hilarious.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:19 a.m. CST

    closure and symbolilsm

    by sokitome

    I don't like open ended,interpret your own meaning movie as I think it's just the director not doing his job. That being said I don't think that is the case with Cloverfield. I think Cloverfield answers alot of questions and I think, like an earlier poster noted, you just have to use your brain and find the clues and figure it out. It's all there just watch the film. The ONLY problem was the abundance in shaky cam as, from a technical point of view, it made alot of people dizzy. That isn't a matter of intelligence but rather a total biological reaction. I truly enjoyed the film, and like someone said before will probably feel less dizzy if I see it on a smaller screen.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:21 a.m. CST

    More overrated than BWP

    by jcrow

    This movie sucked. It had some moments, but the characters made such stupid choices you didn't care if they died. I'm willing to suspend disbelief to enjoy a movie, but not to "follow" or care about such stupid people. Why didn't they just throw that indestructible camera at the creature? That would have killed it. Completely overhyped and overrated. Just like JJAbrams other ventures, the payoff was not there.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Soylent

    by Oomlot

    Yeah I get that, and usually I'd be right there with you, I mean most campaigns are trying to make you want to see the movie with the sentiment 'look at all the cool stuff you'll see'. But Cloverfield's marketing attempts to explain a little bit of what's going on in the wider world, leading up to the giant monster smashing New York. There is a 'protest' by an environmental group that goes wrong, on a drilling platform that then is destroyed and falls into the sea. It would seem pretty clear that the company Tagruato was doing something in the water, I'm sticking with my Slurm theory, that made the monster angry. And New York was just the closest place for it to go next. Also there is the Theory that the monster was after the head of Tagruato, who was in New York at the time of the attack (and may not have made it out, for all we know). And that after it did what it went to New York to do, it tried to leave, and was subsequently blown to shit by the army. Anyway, my point was that the marketing was not the usual crap, that they wanted to get people interested in the reason, because the movie wasn't going to show the reason.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:29 a.m. CST

    Oliver...

    by Juggernaut125

    Apparently Rob, (my room mate)could care less about your opinion of him, how ever he DID invite you to lick his hairy nuts. Seems to me, that he is entitled to his opinion, even if it differs from yours. And his opinion of you isn't too great either. He also wants to know what the 1666 refers to, since Oliver Cromwell 1658. (shrug)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:30 a.m. CST

    I guess it would be better if it were more like real life.....

    by cromwell1666

    where nobody ever makes stupid choices.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:31 a.m. CST

    Payoff...Closure...Who needs them?

    by BlackIronPrison

    Its sad you guys are so fucking upset about this movie. Really. It fucking breaks my heart.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:32 a.m. CST

    ahem...

    by Juggernaut125

    Oliver Cromwell DIED in... 1658. (is what I meant to say)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:32 a.m. CST

    There's a difference between...

    by Oomlot

    Stupid choices and self sacrificing behavior. At the point where Rob makes his decision to go back for Beth, he's suffered quite the loss, so clinging to the idea that she's still alive seems like a reasonable thing to me. Maybe most people wouldn't run under the feet of the giant monster to save the girl, but I'd like to think that I would.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:33 a.m. CST

    brilliant!

    by GavinVanDraven

    great movie from beginning to end. dont listen to people though... just go see it if you dig movies about big monsters. give it a chance and draw your own conclusions. everyone is entitled to an opinion. i fucking loved it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:34 a.m. CST

    Cromwell is my dogs name

    by cromwell1666

    1666 is his liscense number. I hope he can sleep now.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:36 a.m. CST

    LOST

    by BlackIronPrison

    Anyone got a good guess as to how this could be connected to the Dharma Initiative?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:39 a.m. CST

    could the monster be connect to Rambaldi?

    by Boomers_Lips

    yeah him.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:39 a.m. CST

    JJ Abraham Lincoln's metaphor...

    by samuraiyao

    Was that he wanted to get rid of all the yuppie college grad frats from existence; oh yeah and old homeless people too.. Not once did i see a dog or a cat during the evacuation,nevertheless a child??? Is JJ telling us something about our Youths in America....

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:41 a.m. CST

    the monster needs a proper name.

    by Boomers_Lips

    Clovey?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:41 a.m. CST

    Snarky

    by cromwell1666

    Unless the sequel was filmed already.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:43 a.m. CST

    CLOVER-CRAP

    by ToughGuyRizzo

    I love LOST. But man, was this over-rated. I thought it was a clever version of a monster movie, but I read a review this week on here and it was deemed: "required viewing." Nah. Ok, maybe it wasn't crap, but shit man (no pun) I it was mediocore. I definetly won't buy it but the best thing to sum it up. Zilla meets Blair Witch.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:48 a.m. CST

    I felt Blair Witch was channeled most..

    by cromwell1666

    when the camera fell on its side towards the final minutes. I agree with the Blair Witch comparisons but don't really see it as an issue. The Impressionists had similar styles as well, but you don't hear people saying "That Monet is like Manet meets Renoir."

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:49 a.m. CST

    Clovey sounds kinda lame

    by BlackIronPrison

    Just sayin'...

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:52 a.m. CST

    Blair Witch

    by TerryMalloy

    pissed me off so bad. And I was too young to really even get that pissed off. But I did anyway.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:53 a.m. CST

    Just saw this little movie.

    by hamslime

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:56 a.m. CST

    Cloverfield name guess

    by cromwell1666

    Name given after the incident. Huge footprints all over the island resembling the shape of a clover.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Ahem, anyways...

    by hamslime

    American remake of The Host? Yes. Cool movie? I think so. It is definitely one to see in the theatres though as I can't see how this would work at home on DVD. Not that I really need to see it again anyways.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:59 a.m. CST

    Will work at home viewing because....

    by cromwell1666

    How do most people watch personal digtal recordings anyway? Def not on an actual movie screen.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:01 a.m. CST

    Soylent-

    by cromwell1666

    I don't know. As a guess its a bit of a stretch. But a recon mission from the sky after the advent would def. analyze the footprints right away.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:07 a.m. CST

    cromwell1666 (spoilers?)

    by hamslime

    I was referring to the scope of some of the key scenes. Much like with Sunshine, I think it will lose something if you watch it at home. It should still be good, but like with the scene on the bridge, I don't think it will have the same impact on a 27" screen.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:11 a.m. CST

    Amazing Movie! 10/10

    by topaz4206

    The Host is a good comparison, only with the carnage ramped up 10x, size of creature ramped up about 20x, and you're trapped in the middle of all of it, and can't do a thing about it. Take someone you can hold onto and see it on the biggest loudest screen in your town! If you agree, meet me on Netflix! (Topaz420 at gmail dot com)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:17 a.m. CST

    Question about high def.

    by hamslime

    Does a movie like this ,Blair Witch, or even older movies like Eaten Alive really benifit from being in high definition? I could see maybe Spiderman or Zodiac which were actually shot in HD, but how much can a movie be upgraded when HD technology didn't exist at the time a movie was filmed. And in the case of Cloverfield, wouldn't having it in HD take from the "store bought camera" look they were trying to immitate?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:18 a.m. CST

    BoomersLips...

    by Kirbymanly

    Either go see it again to see the things fall from the sky or pay closer attention next time. It's killing me that almost no one saw this

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:24 a.m. CST

    issues raised

    by dudemandude

    I just thought having seen the movie twice, followed the websites etc, I'd comment with my opinions on issues I've seen being raised. READY?! GO! 1) CLOVERFIELD (?) - It means nothing. I'm a 14yr Army vet, when the military puts a name to an operation it's just that, a name. Operation Eagle Strike, Operation Desert Claw, etc. It's just the name the military assigned the case/operation/event is all. I wouldn't dig too deep there. 2)It came from outer space - Yes. The end of the film (Coney Island) proves this. It crashed into the ocean, gestated for a time, attacked the oil platform and headed to shore. The monsters invulnerability to multiple strikes from small arms fire, mobile artillary, abrams tanks, incindiary air burst bombs, and various other fighter launched missiles also lends speculation to it's extraterrestrial origins. Also the Feds quick decision to use nuclear devices leads me to belief someone got word to the President that this thing was from Earth and seeing convential weapons were proving ineffective he said "fuck this, take no more chances, nuke that thing pronto!" 3)But, I saw you die? - The monster is not deceased. The case file number, the reverse speech at the end (altho I still think this is a stretch), the above evidence of it's resistence to our weaponry leads one to believe it also is probably down but not out. Granted, not plot related, but face it this film is good, it's going to be successful financially, and the studio and others will capitalize on it. This is America, we are capitalists, it's in our blood. There will be a sequel most likely and this beast will be back. 4)Not again? - Sequel, see above.. It's bound to happen. This is Hollywood remember =) I personally expect it to be done with other found footage intercut with news footage, etc. This way the creature could possibly be more explained in it's origins and it's welfare. This footage will not be a sequel in a true sense in other words. This is also the most likely area where I could be proven wrong on the welfare of the beast. IF they use the scenario I mentioned above with found footage of the same event (attack on NYC), then the creature will most likely have died in the final attack or a secondary assault. Perhaps not, perhaps it hits other coastlines and we see footage of those events. Hard to say, but there are quite a few possibilities to run with. I hope they do make a "sequel" because I'd really like to see where they go with what they've started. Thanks for reading my shit! -Dude

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:30 a.m. CST

    I figured it all out

    by Requiem4aJerk

    The gov. did not view the tape becuz it was the only to exist but becuz Rob and Beth at Coney Island had the footage of when the monster (alien) was dropped into the water on their camera. Thats the answer to the whole film. I am a genius.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:30 a.m. CST

    I thought Cloverfield was the...

    by Oomlot

    Name the army gave to the Operation to take out the monster. I mean, it's not like those operational names make all that much sense in the real world either. Operation Enduring Freedom for example. It's also possible that Cloverfield is the name of the monument that they would inevitably build on the site they took the bitch out. Or, the monster was a mutated person, whose name was Patrick Cloverfield. The possibilities are endless. My question is, what happened exactly to Jamie and Lily?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Cloverfield defined...

    by vettebro

    I read somewhere that it's the street JJ Abrams office is on. True story. As for the movie? I give it 2 out of 5 stars. Only for the 6 minutes of monster time out of the 84 minutes of entire movie...It had some cool elements, like the sound effects of the spider parasites, but not much else.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:31 a.m. CST

    Cloverfield Is A Street In Santa Monica, CA

    by Buzz Maverik

    You exit off I-10. Lots of film types live and work in Santa Monica. The name is so innocuous you'd never associate it with a monster movie, which seems to be part of a very smart plan.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:35 a.m. CST

    If it came from space

    by cromwell1666

    How did it happen? Was it sent here? Was it just randomly flying through the universe and landed in our atmosphere? Are there more of them? What the hell is the Slusho tie in? Very interesting.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Just because it fell into the ocean doesn't mean...

    by Oomlot

    it came from outer space. It's entirely possible that it was just doing a dolphin thing, because, well because it could. There is also the chance that the thing at the end wasn't the monster at all, I mean, a month is a long time to get from Coney Island to New York. What was it doing in the intervening time? I am starting to like the idea that it was waiting for Ganu whathisname from Tagruato Corp to show up so it could kill him, for whatever reason.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:38 a.m. CST

    Cloverfield

    by hamslime

    I thought Cloverfield was just the fake name they had while in production. It sounded good so they kept it. This movie could have just as easily been called Slusho.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:41 a.m. CST

    Im so over people questioning the bloody name....

    by Fleet

    ...Cloverfield is the name of the event - Nuking the entire area covers it with an ocean of flame that is referred to by the industry as a "Cloverfield" - It is NOT a reference to Central Park - Incident Site U.S 447 is the area formally known as Central Park - During a major attack/catastrophe situation, government forces split the city into zones to assist in people movement, evacuation and collaboration with all teams... Christ people, give up the guessing - The answers are all around you... Im embarassed by the "14yr Army vet" above me who doesn't point this out... Dude, you've never heard of a Cloverfield effect? It's practically the same as everyone referring to a single nuke blast as a "Mushroom cloud" - Botanically themed, even... PS - Capones love for this film has sealed the deal in my realising this website is run by complete hacks... The film was alright, but it was not "shit my pants that was fucking amazing"... Damn.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:44 a.m. CST

    Oomlot

    by Requiem4aJerk

    its an alien, stop coming up with human and stupid perspectives. If that was the case, the ancient Egyptians are legitemately Gods. Smell the coffee Cloverfield is an alien. Look at the anatomy

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:45 a.m. CST

    Okay

    by Oomlot

    I seriously did not see the Slusho drink in Heroes until just now. That, was cool. Fleet, if that's accurate then it actually makes pretty good sense, and I suppose spoils the end for people who new that beforehand.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:46 a.m. CST

    the 10,000 BC trailer was alright.

    by Boomers_Lips

    although i heard laughter during it and i'm not sure why.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:47 a.m. CST

    Monster's name= C-Luv (Clove, get it?)

    by Zardoz

    Anyway, handheld puke-cam aside, I liked the movie a lot. It was suspenseful and tense, but not that scary. Very original idea and well-done in the execution. Some very good dark humor, too. But what's with the tiny crab-monster bites? They bite you and you explode? I was kinda hoping for more monsters from the bite, that would've been really cool! Bring on the sequel, "Cloverfield vs. New Jersey"!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Cloverfield 2: Clovey vs. Texas

    by Boomers_Lips

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:49 a.m. CST

    Requiem

    by Oomlot

    Part of the fun of the movie is trying to figure out all the things that a normal movie would have revealed, just because you believe it was an alien doesn't mean I have to. Have you ever gone scuba diving? once you go down past 100m, that freaky ass shit is nothing like what you'd consider to be 'earthbound' anatomically speaking either.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:50 a.m. CST

    Yea, whatever

    by Elim Garak

    I was waiting for Mecha Godzilla (or maybe Streisand) throughout the entire movie. The whole weapons thing sucked. The monster was way too squishy to shrug off 125 mm depleted uranium slugs. Hell, Godzilla is way too squishy for that. And no matter who or what you are, if a 2000 lb bomb hits you in the head, you are not going to get up and run around. They should have focused on the little critters more. Like, kill the monster quickly, but then all of those little guys start running around the city. Like a scary version of Gremlins or something - perhaps with a touch of Aliens thrown in to account for the bites.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:51 a.m. CST

    Here's what I gotta see...

    by The Scarlet Claw

    Just saw the film and a bunch of great trailers. Loved the movie, especially the little details like the radio transmission after the credits and the splashdown at Coney Island. Here's what I HAVE to see. The same movie done in blockbuster fashion from splashdown on with all the classic "Beast From 20,000 Fathoms"/Original "War Of TRhe Worlds", details. Following the big guys, with the kids from this one seen two or three times during the film. Like when we see the thing attack the Statue Of Liberty and when it snaps off the head follow it tto it's landing place outside the party,when the kids get info and the chick explodes,and when the kids get on the helicopters,or wake up in the park. The soldiers in the last two scenes could be characters that we have been following in the new, 'blockbuster' version of the film. The more I think about it, the more I would LOVE to see it done this way. It WOULD make it the great American classic Monster Movie. ...and that splashdown could be the first of many... I remain, The Scarlet Claw

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:52 a.m. CST

    OH MY HOLY...

    by jdl82

    I just came back from watching it and subsequentally being talked-talked back down to reality by a family member. I'm not sure I would have been as eager to see it if I had known what I know now.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:53 a.m. CST

    Cloverfield effect

    by dudemandude

    lol no can't say that I've heard of this one! But whatever, maybe it's real or maybe you're fulla beans. I've never heard the term, as far as I know it is a street outside the studio and they used it with the film to name the government operation Cloverfield. That's what I've picked up in reading interviews, news and the marketing for the flick. bedtime!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:57 a.m. CST

    Oomlot...

    by Kirbymanly

    It doing a "dolphin" thing is not only a stretch... it's not how it's presented. It definately falls from the sky. As for the timeline... who the fuck knows what was going on inbetween? My take is: there's nothing about the monster that shows that it was living underwater. No fins to help it to move, no gills, black eyes (that would help eliminate sunlight), has the ability to walk as a quad or a bi, etc. It was definatley a pissed off alien that had no idea as to how it got here.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST

    WHY o WHY o WHY

    by GRNASKD

    Let me start by saying AWSOME movie, loved it. But I have a few problems. One you mean to tell me no one in NY besides the Military has a gun to fight off these mini creatures? Only 90min long? Im the movie goer that like answers, I can only take so much mystery, they could of added another half hour hell even another hour wouldve been ok they coulve explained something like why does your head explode when you get bit, the fate of the creature after the hammerdown. Lastly this movie was begging to have somthing after the credits, I sat through 10min of credits for nothing.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:03 a.m. CST

    There was one shot of the monster...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...where it really just looked like a cross between the Rancor and the "O Rly?" owl (you know what I mean). And now that I think about it, that might have been the most Hollywood stealth Lovecraft adaptation ever made.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:11 a.m. CST

    If it fell from space...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...what does Slusho have to do with it? And if it splashed down off the coast at Coney Island, why does it leave to blow up that oil rig and then come all the way back to virtually the same spot? None of this viral stuff seems to work together, it just seems like a bunch of randomness. Oh that's right, it's JJ Abrams, I guess he doesn't need to make sense.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:12 a.m. CST

    What WAS the sound-bite at the end?

    by Zardoz

    I stayed through "Roar": The Cloverfield Overture", and a bunch of people were talking and I couldn't hear what they said right at the end...can anyone tell me? And who was speaking? And Fleet, "Cloverfield" makes a LOT of sense as a military term for a totally bombed-out target site, ala the shit-storm of firepower we "witnessed" at the end...(but did C-Luv survive?)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:16 a.m. CST

    I'm better now.

    by jdl82

    I've settled down now. <P>Um, my advice to anyone who is not used to horror flicks but loved the original Jurassic Park and has a soft spot in his or her heart for apocalyptic monster stories is to see this movie with a friend who has already seen it and can talk you back down to earth when you begin shuddering as walking in a daze as you exit the theatre. A warning: there will probably be at least one or two IDIOTS in the room who will boo at the end of the film and demand their money back. Try not to walk over to them like a desensitized zombie and start beating the living day-lights out of them as you begin crying and sobbing as you vent your nerve-shot emotions.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:17 a.m. CST

    The Sound

    by Cronenfly

    "Its Still Alive"

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:17 a.m. CST

    "It's still alive"

    by Zardoz

    Wikipedia says that is what's said at the end of the film, but in reverse. (no wonder I couldn't understand what they were saying!) "Cloverfield 2: Manhattan gets the clap"!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:21 a.m. CST

    Loved It!

    by Mecha Kong

    After the lukewarm comments began to trickle onto the internet I found my faith in Cloverfield waning. After seeing it for myself I must say it was awesome, with an emphasis on the "awe." First, the acting: I found it to a mixed bag. I could identify with Rob in a way, despite his suicidal actions - if someone I loved called me in the middle of a disaster, crying because they were hurt and bleeding and unable to move, reaching out for my help, would I just run away and leave them to die? I'm not sure, but I'd like to think I could be as spontaneously heroic and selfless as he. Rob's upset and in denial, ready to abandon his love for Beth because he's moving to Japan, but when her life is threatened he does his best to save her, laying his own life on the line at the drop of a hat. His true colors show through in the face of horrific adversity, and that's why I came to care for him. Hud is definitely the most likeable character IMO. His wise-cracking disposition and awkward, desperate interactions with Marlena are priceless. When the poor guy is bitten in half, and the camera comes to rest on his lifeless face... wow. I mean, you only get to see him twice before that moment, so to have him go out that way was really moving to me. Rob's brother Jason was cool, and quickly became my favorite character up until his untimely demise. His strength and level-headedness is displayed as he gives some stern advice on love to Rob when he's drowning in regret. When everyone is freaking out in the streets, Jason's the one to snap everyone out of it and formulate a plan to escape. He's trying to guide his friends and loved ones to safety amid a panicked mob when he loses his life. I found Jason's death to be rather powerful, due in part to how sudden it is, and also because of Rob's tearful admission to his mother that Jason had died. I was a sad panda at that point. The female characters got more of a "meh" out of me. Beth was hardly in the movie, so you don't get much of a chance to care about her - instead you're more concerned about Rob and the trials he faces in rescuing her. She's a good plot device but unfortunately has no time to develop any real character. Lily is another character with that tacked-on feeling. She's merely swept up in the events around her and Rob's quest for true love. Once again we have a rather trivial character whose death would likely fail to evoke any emotion beyond "Ooooh, ouch, that's rough! Next please." It's a shame she makes it out near the end, because a gruesome death scene would have actually helped to make her memorable. : P Marlena is like Lily, except that she actually meets that gruesome end I mentioned. Her thinly-veiled disdain for most everyone around her did help to set her apart from the other female characters, but just when her rude demeanor cracks to show a kinder, caring person beneath she pops like a balloon. Just when you start to really like her for more than her smart-ass attitude she dies and you're looking forward to the next scene of horrific destruction. Her vague references to the group she belongs to and the "retreat" she was supposed to go on made me think she's a part of T.I.D.O. Wave, which makes her a little more significant, but only to those following the viral campaign. She was a "cool" character, but did I care about her? Eh, not really. What about the monsters?! The bits of the main monster you see before the big reveal really helped to build the sense of tension and confusion for me. Before, you saw a leg maybe, or was that an arm? Definitely a tail in there somewhere... then all of a sudden an RPG goes whizzing by, gunfire and tank rounds start flying, and then he shows himself. For a split second you get a look at the thing, jaws open wide in a deafening roar before massive explosions send the characters scurrying underground to safety. It was definitely a "WTF THAT SHIT WAS CRAZY!!!" moment. It only gets better as the movie goes, and when you finally come face to face with the monster, it really was stunning. Everyone in the theater was holding their breath. The crunch of popcorn and candy was nowhere to be heard, not a single sniffle or cough or creaking seat. It was just one intense moment, shared by every wide-eyed moviegoer in the theater. I love that big, weird, red-sack-headed thing! The little parasites were cool, serving to add tension no matter where the characters hid. If the big beastie didn't just destroy your shelter there were these little fuckers crawling everywhere and getting into everything. The scene in the subway, as predictable as it was, made everyone in the theater gasp including me. You'd have to be a dunce not to see that coming, but when the night vision clicks on, there is no pause or chance to react. You don't get time to glance around and then see the fuckers come scurrying forward - they were already in position a while ago, dangerously near and ready to pounce before your eyes can even focus. I was startled enough to elicit an "OH FUCK," and I was not alone. So what if it has been done before? That's like getting one blowjob and mocking the next chick to suck your dick because "someone else already did that."

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:21 a.m. CST

    MONSTER FOOTAGE ONLINE!!!

    by LittleDudes

    Scroll down to the bottom of this page to see it! http://tinyurl.com/ytg8t7

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:22 a.m. CST

    i smell more

    by Cronenfly

    Its a great 1st entry in what could be a fantastic alien invasion/mutant monster epidemic trilogy

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:24 a.m. CST

    Word to the wise...

    by Kirbymanly

    The viral sites have almost NOTHING to do with the film. The only tie-in is a Slusho t-shirt, the oil barge and that girl from the web videos who we see briefly drunk on the couch. Unless it's just a massive set-up for a sequel, it's an alien to me.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:28 a.m. CST

    WALL O TEXT

    by Mecha Kong

    Holy shit, sorry about that. I swear I split that all up into paragraphs... '_';;

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:28 a.m. CST

    Awsome Theroy

    by GRNASKD

    Check this theroy out. Remeber when Hud said it seemed like the mini creature was trying to take him away? Like it wanted to make him their queen? Keep that in mind while watching this theory. "The apocalypse is a little late, we were created to be harvested" Please keep in mind also that this person has not seen the movie yet so hes a little off here and there but nothing too serious. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4f8ctCKjTY

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:29 a.m. CST

    Mysteries

    by jdl82

    I love a movie with mysteries. The following is a list of things that go unanswered: <p>What is the monster's origin? Was it from another dimension accidentally opened via a portal aboard the overturned tanker in the harbor? Was it a creature flung to Earth threw space? Was it a science project that grew out of control? Was it an adult, or a baby? Was it a creature from deep, deep within the earth that tunneled to the earth's surface and surfaced from beneath the tanker? <p>What were those smaller, spider-crab-like creatures? Were they baby Cloverfields? <p>Did the creature remain on the island because the military had ringed the landmass with something that the monster couldn't take? <P>Is everyone in New York that attractive? <P>Insert question.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:32 a.m. CST

    Cloverfield is f*cking overated! Aliens RIP-OFF

    by ganymede3010

    Yeah I said it. The entire time I'm waiting for the BIG moment.. Guess what? The big moment never f*cking happend. This movie was a throw back to the 1980's. Back when monsters were to cheesy to be shown, so they relied on scaring you with loud noises and a shaky camera. This is by no means a terrible movie. On a scale of 1 to 10 I'll give it a 7 at best. This movie borrowed alot of it's cinematography from Ailiens (James Camerons Version). Alot of the escape sequences were visually identical to Aliens. Running down dark corridors, with the lights dim, blinking on and off. And just when you thought they couldn't copy Aliens anymore, they pointed the flash light up on the ceeling! And guess what? There were Alien looking creatures crawling on the ceeling ready to pounce on them. At this point, I was expecting nute to jump out of the shadows and lead them through a secert corridor to safety. With the small production budget of this movie, they did a wonderful job. But this movie isn't original at all. This is Aliens 2008 in Mahattan.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:36 a.m. CST

    They could have been

    by Cronenfly

    Parasites that have nothing to actually do with the alien. Maybe they are the just little alien ticks sucking on the monster and its making him sad so he gets pissed and starts breaking shit. or maybe its secretly a game to film adaptation of Body Harvest for the N64

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Sophisticated my ass..

    by Carl's hat

    ..this was basically a 1950's monster movie, a la "The Giant Claw". Now that's cool, but to pretend it's anything more, than you're not playing with a full deck or you're a Hollywood sycophant. And besides, I really felt like I was gonna puke during the last 20 minutes. Kind of takes away from the moviegoing experience you know when you have to close your eyes and listen to the movie. Come on guys.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:38 a.m. CST

    This film didn't copy; it PERFECTED.

    by jdl82

    Every single scenario, event, situation, relationship, fate, death, romance, invasion, chase, and unlit scene has a predecesor in at least one other film out there. But y'know what? This sucker takes those precidents, and PERFECTS them. Yes, you've seen it all before. But you've never experienced it like this.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:38 a.m. CST

    Okay maybe it's a stretch

    by Oomlot

    But a dolphin jumps pretty high out of the water, what if this thing was jumping a proportional distance? And it's arms were long and flat, much the same way the old sea going reptiles were. It has a long tail with a fin on it for god's sake. Anyway there are plenty of reasons to think it is not an alien, and only the fact that it looks like an alien to think that it is. Seriously, do a little deep sea diving one day.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:42 a.m. CST

    Explain and defend all you want, this movie was mediocre.

    by The Founder

    The moster was awesome but underused. The shaky cam/camcorder crap was interesting at first but got old quickly and annoying. I was not impressed by this movie. A good theme was there but JJ trying to make something hip and edgy just didn't work for me.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:43 a.m. CST

    Slusho and The Clovettes

    by hamslime

    I thought the little guys looked like spiders with angler-fish heads. Which got me thinking. When fish fertilize their eggs the female puts them in her mouth until they hatch. So maybe when that chick got bit she had her head filled with little baby cloverfields until her head got so crowded it turned to....Slusho!!! And what about the last shot of the monster where it showed his eustation tubes pulsing. If you ask me it made his silhouette look alot like a clover. Add to that he was standing in what appeared to be a field. Yeah, that explains everything now. That or it all was a result of it being in the script.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:44 a.m. CST

    So this creature

    by Cronenfly

    Is the result of some sort of mutation or it has been lying dormant for so many years. The little crab bastards i think are parasites to the Actual monster itself. I think they were slowly killing it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:46 a.m. CST

    Monster ??

    by Cronenfly

    It appeared(well to me at least) the monster was shaking those little bastards off. Not in an offensive way, but for the sake of getting them the hell off...maybe

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:47 a.m. CST

    Lets be real, The moster is what people want to see.....

    by The Founder

    and not some damn people running around with a camcorder and things from their perspective. Me and many others wanted a monster movie, and the monster is great, but you never see it long enough. I can't say this movie is good. It was disappointing.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:47 a.m. CST

    oomlot

    by jdl82

    I'm not even sure you could call those arms. They were limbs that became mega-enormous spikes at the elbows. At least, that's what I thought I saw. But I also remember a huge reptilian foot slamming down onto a tank from out of nowhere. Maybe that was the "fifth leg" being talked about here? And lastly, I'm fairly certain that I saw two much, much smaller appendages sticking out of its belly. I definetely remember a tail of some sort. And from above via the helicopter, the whole monster looked like a horrific monstrocity dragging its body along the ground by its two gigantic front legs. <P>Whatever it is, the Cloverfield monster is like nothing we have ever seen in mainstream science. Comparing it to a dolphin just doesn't cut it for me. <p>Was it intelligent? I don't know. At one point, it sniffed a little human unfortunate enough to have found himself looking up at it, sniffed him, and ate him.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:48 a.m. CST

    Cloverfield had crabs

    by hamslime

    He shook them off because they were making his hang-down itch.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:51 a.m. CST

    crabs

    by Cronenfly

    So this mutated lovecraft monster crawls out of the fucking water one day and brings his godamn water STIDS with him.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:55 a.m. CST

    googleing cloverfield monster but...

    by jdl82

    There aren't any pictures of it up yet. There are some really interesting pictures of other monsterous creatures, but nothing exactly like what we just saw.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:55 a.m. CST

    I can not stand an unsophisticated audience

    by versatol

    "What happened at the end? What was the monster? They died? That sucks!" Look, dumbass, connect the dots yourself for a change! Movies don't have to explain everything

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:56 a.m. CST

    by Cronenfly

    so the monster is sleeping at the bottom of the ocean. he already has an incurable crab infested body. oil miners drill into him. hes pissed. he comes up from below. destroys the ship. bitch slaps the fucking statue of liberty. and starts destroying everything he sees.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:59 a.m. CST

    If I had crabs...

    by hamslime

    that looked like fucked up pirahni, I think I might flip out and go on a bitch-slapping rampage as well.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:59 a.m. CST

    the parasite

    by Cronenfly

    maybe the parasites find a host and latch onto it for the sake of a greater mutation.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3 a.m. CST

    Damn Right

    by Cronenfly

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3 a.m. CST

    America's Godzilla? BULLSHIT!

    by J-Dizzle

    That position has already been taken by King Kong thank you very much. Besides Zilla would beat that 5 legged douche head to a pulp!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:02 a.m. CST

    by Cronenfly

    So lets say they were to leave hud behind in the subway. Those parasites would have swarmed him. So if they began feeding on him would they mutate more or would he mutate more? Or maybe they would just eat the fucking guy...

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:05 a.m. CST

    Hud

    by hamslime

    Given the time it took for that chick's head to explode, if they took him back I don't think he would have made it very far.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:07 a.m. CST

    Cronenfly...

    by Blood Simple

    yup, that pretty much sums it up. I actually felt bad for the damn thing. I could care less about the rich pussies we were stuck with the whole film - every time I heard clovey roar in pain after being shot or bombed, a little bit of me died inside. Poor guy. He just needed some sun and an anti-bacterial cream.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:08 a.m. CST

    Hud 2: Die Hudder

    by hamslime

    On the other hand, they didn't bite him. They only bit the chick as maybe a defense tactic after she knocked one out. So who knows?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:09 a.m. CST

    Even if they did survive

    by Cronenfly

    They would be absolutely pointless for a sequel. What could they do other than share information with the government/military. As far as i am concerned they are dead. and hopefully if they do make a sequel, it will be a hard R

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:11 a.m. CST

    If this thing came from below...

    by Cronenfly

    What the hell else could be swimming around or sleeping? We are talking about a highly evolved creatures here. The human race is fucking over

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Sequel

    by hamslime

    I just hope that if it happens they don't go the Cube route. Hypercloverfield would just be more of the same with no resolution. We would then have to wait for the Direct to video Cloverfield: Zero, for any kind of answers.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:13 a.m. CST

    Nuke EM

    by Cronenfly

    yeah lets drop bombs on it. It still dosent die. Lets drop a nuke or two on it. Now we have radiation everywhere. Its still not dead. We might as well just dig our own damn graves! This Is MAdness

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:14 a.m. CST

    But seriously...

    by Blood Simple

    did anyone else feel bad for the monster?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:17 a.m. CST

    Not comparing it to a dolphin really...

    by Oomlot

    Just saying that it could have been jumping in and out of the water around Coney Island, the way dolphins are wont to do. I am really not reaching too far to say that there is a lot on this planet not explained by our science, admittedly probably not that many giant oceanic monsters kicking around, but who knows. And I still think that whatever the slusho secret ingredient is, it was taken from the monster in some way, and the monster wanted it back. Maybe it was monster sperm, or something along those lines, or maybe it is produced by the opposite sex of the species, and it being in the blood of all the people who drink slusho, attracted the monster.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:18 a.m. CST

    I would love to see

    by Cronenfly

    this turn out to be a killer trilogy. pt.2:Military versus monster action. pt.2:A destroyed planet from all the dropping of the bombs, throw in some mad max post apocalyptic shit and were golden. The Bummer: if this does spawn some sequels, they will most likely be ruined by greedy studio execs or....michael bay

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:20 a.m. CST

    Pissed or Misunderstood?

    by Cronenfly

    the monster dosent know what the hell he is doing. Hes big, hungry and superior. Were just finger food to him.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:23 a.m. CST

    ITS NOT STILL ALIVE! ITS DEAD! www.1-18-08.com

    by J-Dizzle

    Go to the 1-18-08 website. The latest picture shows the monster's dead remains.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:27 a.m. CST

    I lowered my expectations and was still disappointed

    by Mr.F.N.Sunshine

    The monster looked like something Napoleon Dynamite drew. Just a bunch of random animal parts jammed together. Not that you got to see it for long. Mostly just people running around screaming and panicking with a shaky cam. Most of the people in the audience where I saw the show didn't seem real impressed either. Some were flat out annoyed by the camera style and I met two who went to the manager and complained about it. They got passes to other movies. Why so many people creaming their shorts for this is a mystery to me. I love monster movies and was really looking forward to a good one tonight after six months of waiting. Too bad I didn't see one.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:27 a.m. CST

    well thats nice to know

    by Cronenfly

    its dead...or is it? Yep

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:27 a.m. CST

    Re: Cronenfly

    by J-Dizzle

    And what do you suggest on how the military should handle the monster? Ask it to politely leave perhaps? Besides, judging from the latest picture the nuke pretty much did its job.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:29 a.m. CST

    by Cronenfly

    That sucks for you man

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:32 a.m. CST

    by Cronenfly

    I am simply saying that either way its not gonna end nicely...But yea asking it to "politely leave" would be nice. He monster would you..a..please leave us human folk alone. we mean no harm to anything

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:33 a.m. CST

    by Cronenfly

    but i guess it never does end nicely in a monster movie now does it?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:34 a.m. CST

    TS NOT STILL ALIVE! ITS DEAD! www.1-18-08.com

    by Mr.F.N.Sunshine

    There is a huge bite mark in part of the carcass. Maybe that is supposed to be something the monster was eating like a dead whale? How much money the film makes will tell us if it was killed or not. Nothing else.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:35 a.m. CST

    I agree with you Mr.F.Sunshine

    by Cronenfly

    In the film world, money determines everything nowadays

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:40 a.m. CST

    The Ruins

    by Cronenfly

    Gonna ruin Bodily Horror as we know it

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:42 a.m. CST

    My suspension of disbelief started

    by cromwell1666

    when I paid $4 for a bottle of Tropicana lemonade at the concessions stand.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:43 a.m. CST

    by Cronenfly

    Bodily?? oops i mean Body

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:45 a.m. CST

    In the sequel...

    by hamslime

    Cloverfield of Dreams, we find it was all just a horrible nightmare. I heard that one other chick mention that it felt like it was all a nightmare. Eh? Eh?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:48 a.m. CST

    Cronenfly

    by hamslime

    Ruined by Michael Bay? It's just a monster movie. What were you expecting? Shakespeare?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:48 a.m. CST

    I kid

    by hamslime

    of course.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:07 a.m. CST

    Bay Bomb

    by Cronenfly

    some nice shakespeare to read to the monster. to help him sleep. yes i was expecting shakespeare. as long as it didnt have john lenguinzamonoodlesauce to ruin the flavor. his name reads like a pasta dish

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:08 a.m. CST

    J-Dizzle

    by Oomlot

    That picture is clearly a couple of whales that the monster had some unpleasant interaction with. I might not be a whale biologist, but I know enough to pull the golf ball out of the blow hole. And that photo is completely clear. Whether the monster survived is hard to judge, I want to know if Lily and Jamie survived.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:11 a.m. CST

    Dead Monster

    by Cronenfly

    Plus the carcass would be too close to the shore

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:12 a.m. CST

    by Cronenfly

    well i guess it could be just a little hunk of dead monster. but i dont thinks its dead because..."Its Still Alive"

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:13 a.m. CST

    Bottom line is...

    by Kirbymanly

    The movie was fucking awesome. Stimulated the senses. All you dounters go back and see the second to last shot to see the fucking thing fall out of the sky and splash into the ocean. Just be sure to thank me when you see it. I'm amazed none of you geeks saw it like I did.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:15 a.m. CST

    Tagruato

    by Oomlot

    if anyone can translate the message that has gone up over the old Tagruato Corp web page, that'd be spiffy, I'm curious to know why it was shut down, and by which fictional whom.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:17 a.m. CST

    The movie was pretty bad...

    by Cronenfly

    ASS. I throughly enjoyed it despite some small bits. I however did not see the splash into the ocean though.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:20 a.m. CST

    Space

    by Cronenfly

    Aliens from outer space would not look like aquatic creatures. They monster in cloverfield looked very aquatic to me.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:26 a.m. CST

    Rob and Beth mad one ugly pissed off mean baby

    by Cronenfly

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:32 a.m. CST

    Cronenfly

    by hamslime

    I like ya and all, but I'm gonna have to disagree with the aquatic alien theory. http://tinyurl.com/2sxlun

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:34 a.m. CST

    Oh Damn

    by Cronenfly

    I clearly forgets me alien species

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:35 a.m. CST

    The Monster

    by Cronenfly

    Well the monster in cloverfield wasnt from space because there was no impact wave

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:46 a.m. CST

    Wrap Up

    by Cronenfly

    So the monster had to have come from the ocean. It came with Parasites attached to it and began destroying the city. It was able to withstand military opposition. So this shows that it has some type of armor or body regeneration. The parasites could be apart of him or just plain and simple..Parasites. Why he came now is unknown. Other than the oil tanker having something to do with it. maybe.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:47 a.m. CST

    hamslime

    by Cronenfly

    what are your thoughts on the monster? and the parasites?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:47 a.m. CST

    Maybe it was an olympic diver

    by hamslime

    Did a triple lindy off of Uranus and Jupiter. Perfect entry. No splash. 10.0 - 10.0 - 9.7 - 10.0.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:49 a.m. CST

    Perfect

    by Cronenfly

    That explains it! It was from space all along. Damn.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:52 a.m. CST

    Honestly

    by hamslime

    I'm from the school of thought that if it isn't in the script then it doesn't matter. But judging from the type of movie it was, I'd say government experiment gone wrong. If that's the case I'm glad they left it out. That was my one gripe with The Mist.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:52 a.m. CST

    should have aborted..

    by Cronenfly

    if i was a woman i wouldnt want that thing comin out of me

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:54 a.m. CST

    "It's still a lion!"

    by Vesuvio

    That was the definitive nod from the producers. No matter how it looks, brothers. It's still a lion. And it is huge. Peace.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:54 a.m. CST

    That would leave one hell of a wet spot.

    by hamslime

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:55 a.m. CST

    Mist

    by Cronenfly

    I havent seen the mist yet. I really want to see that movie. But yea i was thinking about the experiment gone wrong thing for a while too. And i agree with you about the script thing too. i just have too much fun with my thoughts. its sad.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:56 a.m. CST

    It wouldnt smell all that good either

    by Cronenfly

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:58 a.m. CST

    Sorry for the spoiler

    by hamslime

    That is such a small part of the movie anyway. The ending though is tits, and I won't give that up to you.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:59 a.m. CST

    What the hell is It?

    by Cronenfly

    I remember seeing the damn teaser for the first time. Me and a friend talked about it all damn night trying to figure out what the monster would look like and where it would come from. Now i have seen it. And i am satisfied. for now

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5 a.m. CST

    Mysteries

    by quantize

    The real feat this film achieves is how it forces anyone with a modicum of intelligence to not give a flying fuck about any of those questions.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:01 a.m. CST

    I have heard many good things

    by Cronenfly

    I mean its got Tom Jane, and Frank Darabont directing. What could go wrong? I hope nothing did

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:03 a.m. CST

    Fuck entitlement and entertainment

    by quantize

    no excuse for being treated like a moron puppet, people got a well of bullshit excuses for this shitty film.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:04 a.m. CST

    I made a Cube refference earlier

    by hamslime

    and that did the same thing. All build-up with no pay-off. It wasn't until the third movie where they explained everything. If they make a sequel they may explain it, but if J.J. Abrams is involved I doubt it. From what I've seen of Lost he seems to have these grand ideas that go nowhere.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:05 a.m. CST

    shitty to some

    by Cronenfly

    to bad...for you

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:07 a.m. CST

    I havent seen lost

    by Cronenfly

    i watched one episode back when it first started. Sadly i never returned to continue watching. But yes sequels are a hit and miss these days.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:08 a.m. CST

    what am i saying

    by Cronenfly

    they have always been a hit or a miss

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:10 a.m. CST

    The Mist

    by hamslime

    I thought is was great. The fact that Todd Parker is in it was just gravy. Chocolate coated pussy gravy if I may be so bold.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:11 a.m. CST

    Abrams

    by Cronenfly

    I am a little sketchy on this star trek movie. I mean it could either be really fucking good or a waste of time and money. It could also completely ruin star trek for alot of fans

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:16 a.m. CST

    Good Things Dont Last Forever

    by Cronenfly

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:20 a.m. CST

    J.J. Abrams

    by hamslime

    I don't really follow the guy to closely, so I can't say one way or the other if he's a genius or not. I'm sure he has his talent's though. Maybe he needs a partner to help flesh out his ideas. It worked for the Coen Brothers.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:20 a.m. CST

    The Mist was my favorite film from last year

    by Kirbymanly

    And no... there's no aquatic alien. It fell from the fucking sky. Watch the end again. It clear zips down. Christ, these talkbackers are maddening sometimes.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:21 a.m. CST

    Does anyone remember

    by Cronenfly

    when george romero was going to make the resident evil movie. I wanna know if i am crazy, but i remember reading somewhere that bruce campbell was in talks to star as chris redfield. correct me if i am wrong

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:22 a.m. CST

    Kirby

    by Cronenfly

    There was no impact wave!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:25 a.m. CST

    Star Trek

    by hamslime

    Like with Abrams I'm not the authority on Star Trek. It would make sense though to get someone to write the thing that actually likes Star Trek, as opposed to someone who merely says they do to appease fans long enough to buy tickets. But hey, who am I to keep someone from getting a paycheck.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:26 a.m. CST

    true dat

    by Cronenfly

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:28 a.m. CST

    Sad part is

    by hamslime

    It will make millions. Good or bad.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:29 a.m. CST

    by Cronenfly

    The least someone could do is actually put heart and soul into a project like that with such a large fanbase. But they usually just take titles and fuck the entire mythology in the bum bum

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Romero

    by hamslime

    He was supposed to do it. I don't know about the Bruce Campbell thing. I guess Capcom decided that they didn't want to be responsible for producing the first great video game movie. I believe that title is still up for grabs although I did enjoy Silent Hill. Sue me.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Off Topic but still involves killing mythology of a franchise

    by Cronenfly

    One of my major disappointments was way back when Paul Anderson took over Resident Evil and cluster fucked it with meaningless characters and totally threw out the original stories behind the damn games.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:33 a.m. CST

    Silent Hill

    by Cronenfly

    I really enjoyed it also. A flawed masterpiece.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:38 a.m. CST

    hamslime

    by Cronenfly

    do you have any idea what happened to the poor Hitman movie? That was the most vulgar piece of shit i had seen all year. Totally incoherent. No structure what so ever. Bad casting. Just horrible everything. I have a feeling there was some studio interference

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:39 a.m. CST

    Paul W.S.

    by hamslime

    I may get shot for this, but I think the guy truly has passion in what he does. He's just missing something. Like a guy that lost his legs that REALLY wants to do hurdles. Maybe keep him away from writing. "No Paul! We're not doing that! Just stick to the script, point the fuckin' camera, and shoot the thing." He could hire me as a producer. I'd set the little rapscallion straight.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:40 a.m. CST

    Hitman

    by hamslime

    I didn't like the game, so I didn't bother with the movie.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:40 a.m. CST

    Xavier Gens

    by Cronenfly

    i have read some good things about his first film Frontiers, but after seeing hitman i dont even want to bother checking into it

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:45 a.m. CST

    I used to not mind him

    by Cronenfly

    I enjoy Event Horizon. I hated soldier, but i love kurt russel so i can watch it if i am bored. But after he fucked resident evil i just cant like him. And AVP was a mess. He really needs to redeem himself.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:46 a.m. CST

    A Mess

    by Cronenfly

    With Lance Henriksen

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:49 a.m. CST

    Uwe Boll

    by hamslime

    I heard his pre House of the Dead movies weren't bad, but his reputation is so fucked now that it would be impossible to get a fair review of them nowadays. But at least one of them has Michael Pare in it, so I may have to check it out regardless. I am too weak not to.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST

    THE ENTIRE THEATER HATED IT. Saw it at "The Grove" in Los Angele

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I really hate to say it, BUT TOO TOO TOO much shaky cam!!! Great acting, Great locations, Great Action...but you couldn't see any of it. I closed my eyes for most of it and was just listened, I had no choice.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST

    THE ENTIRE THEATER HATED IT. Saw it at "The Grove" in Los Angele

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I really hate to say it, BUT TOO TOO TOO much shaky cam!!! Great acting, Great locations, Great Action...but you couldn't see any of it. I closed my eyes for most of it and was just listened, I had no choice.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST

    THE ENTIRE THEATER HATED IT. Saw it at "The Grove" in Los Angele

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I really hate to say it, BUT TOO TOO TOO much shaky cam!!! Great acting, Great locations, Great Action...but you couldn't see any of it. I closed my eyes for most of it and was just listened, I had no choice.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST

    THE ENTIRE THEATER HATED IT. Saw it at "The Grove" in Los Angele

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I really hate to say it, BUT TOO TOO TOO much shaky cam!!! Great acting, Great locations, Great Action...but you couldn't see any of it. I closed my eyes for most of it and was just listened, I had no choice.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST

    THE ENTIRE THEATER HATED IT. Saw it at "The Grove" in Los Angele

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I really hate to say it, BUT TOO TOO TOO much shaky cam!!! Great acting, Great locations, Great Action...but you couldn't see any of it. I closed my eyes for most of it and was just listened, I had no choice.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST

    THE ENTIRE THEATER HATED IT. Saw it at "The Grove" in Los Angele

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I really hate to say it, BUT TOO TOO TOO much shaky cam!!! Great acting, Great locations, Great Action...but you couldn't see any of it. I closed my eyes for most of it and was just listened, I had no choice.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST

    THE ENTIRE THEATER HATED IT. Saw it at "The Grove" in Los Angele

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I really hate to say it, BUT TOO TOO TOO much shaky cam!!! Great acting, Great locations, Great Action...but you couldn't see any of it. I closed my eyes for most of it and was just listened, I had no choice.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST

    THE ENTIRE THEATER HATED IT. Saw it at "The Grove" in Los Angele

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I really hate to say it, BUT TOO TOO TOO much shaky cam!!! Great acting, Great locations, Great Action...but you couldn't see any of it. I closed my eyes for most of it and was just listened, I had no choice.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:52 a.m. CST

    THE ENTIRE THEATER HATED IT. Saw it at "The Grove" in Los Angele

    by DarthMrBelvedere

    I really hate to say it, BUT TOO TOO TOO much shaky cam!!! Great acting, Great locations, Great Action...but you couldn't see any of it. I closed my eyes for most of it and was just listened, I had no choice.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:53 a.m. CST

    Event, Soldier, Mortal Kombat

    by hamslime

    Not written by Paul W.S. Anderson. I think we found the problem here. Okay, Mortal Kombat is a stretch, but still.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:54 a.m. CST

    DarthMrBelvedere

    by hamslime

    Don't be shy. Tell us how you really feel.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:55 a.m. CST

    Rapscaliion

    by Oomlot

    That's a word you don't hear enough these days

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:56 a.m. CST

    The Boll

    by Cronenfly

    Yea hes dug himself into a hole. I dont think anything can be done to save his career. Even if he were to make a good movie nobody would go see it. He just...ugh..i..ugh

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:56 a.m. CST

    Yeah

    by hamslime

    It's been at least a fortnight or two since I've heard it myself.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:58 a.m. CST

    Postal

    by hamslime

    I have faith in that only because it looks like he had finally come to grips with what he is and played to his strengths. Making laughably bad movies.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:59 a.m. CST

    Paul

    by Cronenfly

    to many ideas at once maybe.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Not too many

    by hamslime

    Just bad ones.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:01 a.m. CST

    Postal

    by Cronenfly

    Never played the game. But have heard many ridiculous things about it so maybe he will hit something with that one

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:02 a.m. CST

    I'm out

    by hamslime

    Good talking with you. Maybe do it again later.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:04 a.m. CST

    horror is

    by Cronenfly

    the wrong genre for boll

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:37 a.m. CST

    Surrealistic Monster

    by H_Chinaski

    Whoever designed the monster must have been inspired by Salvador Dali, it looks like one of his paintings, particularly "Soft Construction with Boiled Beans". Dali did a lot of paintings of creatures with those reverse elbows/knees and little heads. Just a thought, but as soon as the monster was revealed, I thought "Dali".

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 7:55 a.m. CST

    People who whine about shaky cam are worthless bitches.

    by FluffyUnbound

    Ever go to a Six Flags with a big group of people, and there's always one chick who whines the whole time and doesn't want to go on the roller coasters because she'll get sick? Everyone who complains about shaky cam is that bitch in spirit. You may as well be somebody's mom, dude. Somebody's skirt-wearing, minivan-driving, gets-a-migraine-and-nausea-on-a-boat mom.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 7:59 a.m. CST

    Requiem, you beat me to it, you bastard.

    by FluffyUnbound

    I read the whole thread to see if anyone else had that thought about the Coney Island footage, and you fucking cock blocked me on it. I kept thinking, "Why would the Defense Department preserve this tape? Why would they care?" They have to have plenty of tape of the monster. News films. Gun cam films. We watch the whole movie thinking the Defense Department saved it because it shows the monster attack on NY, and they don't give a shit about that at all. They saved it for what it was taped OVER - the Coney Island footage is effectively an accidental Zapruder film. That's a really nice touch.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:03 a.m. CST

    Monster = Alien from Sky

    by box

    the reason you fuck-tards didn't see the monster fall from the sky during the very, very, very last scene in the movie (when the camera is pointing out to the ocean and it falls from the far right side of the screen) is because you pussies had your eyes shut, head down and breathing hard because you fuckin numbnuts couldn't handle the shaky cam! what a bunch of pussies!! cry, cry, cry......shaky cam. god damn nerds you all are. you're the fucking geeks i beat up in school all the time because all you did was pop pimples and play with your dingle-dangle during P.E. shower time. fuckers.......open your eyes and rewatch the last scene.....and take some god damn dramamine before hand so you geeks don't puke your mom's breast milk up from the dinner you just ate. god damn cock suckers. if i see you out in the theater or streets, i'm gonna piss on your shoes.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:11 a.m. CST

    And it's not Michael Bay style shaky cam either.

    by FluffyUnbound

    Where he puts the camera at knee level to show you someone's knees as they're running, or has the camera show you cuts of some guy's back during a fight scene to make it all more "action-y". It's handheld-cam, not MTV-cam. You see everything. What don't you see? All the preview reviews said you don't see much of the monster, and I have to ask what movie they watched. There are more money shots in this film than in Bay's entire oeuvre.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:03 a.m. CST

    What are you smoking?

    by maxx36

    It was the worst movie in a long time, scary hell no, and it mad me shout run, yea get the hell out of the theater and get my money back. It was so screwed up just the fact that the monster was part Aliens( the little spider things that came off it),Zombie(if you get bite something happens to you) and Godzilla. Can someone tell me what it was, crab/spider/some other sea creature, it look diffrent throughout the movie. Lets not forget the size change, if it was big enough to get the aircraft from the sky it would not fit in the screen of the camera when it almost eats the camera guy. We also don't know who found the camera, how long after it was found, did the creature even die and most important how does a camera make it through a NUKE at ground ZERO!!! Bacicly nothing work in the movie and it just pissed me off, I wish it would have made me sick at lest I would have gotten something out of it. I will never learn, movie with too much hype equals CRAP!!! A new vision for the monster movies, yea what not to do, maybe one of the makers is related to Joe Quesada because they screwed us just as bad. Telling anyone who has not seen it RUN!!! away from this movie, it's a really bad thing.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:21 a.m. CST

    How Is The FORM BLAZING SWORD Sequence?

    by LaserPants

    It must look really cool from the POV of the citizens of Planet Arus.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:28 a.m. CST

    I Love When People Over Identify With Their Entertainments

    by LaserPants

    Like when people get personally offended when someone didn't like the movie they liked? Its great! Its also schizophrenic -- like you know how schizophrenics can't distinguish between themselves and the outside world? Raging geeks do the same thing -- they can't separate themselves from their entertainment choices, so criticizing said entertainment choices is perceived as criticizing them! It truly is amazing, and I think it would be a great idea to do a psychological study on it; perhaps the thesis could examine how mass media has become so ubiquitous that it has effectively taken over for individualized identity, replacing it, in fact, with itself, reducing most of the world to nothing more than walking consumer product advertisements willing to fight to the death to defend the sanctity of the brand name. A fascinating study in de-evolution.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:36 a.m. CST

    No, Laserpants.

    by FluffyUnbound

    I hate it when people say things that are stupid. I know that our pluralistic society trains you from nursery school on to tolerate stupidity and say nothing, in the interest of social peace, but I never accepted that indoctrination. As far as I am concerned, if someone else says something stupid, one should tell them about it - whether the topic is politics, religion, art, or the fucking weather. I don't care if you liked the movie or not. I just can't see stupid words appear on a page and not say something about them. [Although I will admit that my abuse of people who don't like shaky cam is pure grade school teasing with no intellectual content whatsoever. But sometimes whiny little fuckers deserve a little teasing. Maybe it will toughen them up a bit and they'll get over their fucking Austen novel fainting spell "disorder".] By the way - "Raging geeks do the same thing -- they can't separate themselves from their entertainment choices, so criticizing said entertainment choices is perceived as criticizing them!" Well, ultimately it is, you know. No psychological analysis is required. If anything, the opposite is true - since one's self is the sum of one's thoughts, judgments, feelings, etc., criticizing someone's taste is in fact the same as criticizing them. All differences of opinion are ultimately on some level personal insults, and the stronger the variance of opinion the stronger the insult. I think psychological and sociological study to determine how we have all managed to agree to pretend this isn't true would actually be more interesting.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST

    Dead Monster

    by BobWinters5

    Clearly not. Unless something larger took that huge bite out of it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:49 a.m. CST

    I hate to say i told you so.....

    by MRX67

    but Cloverdud was a dud.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    and.....

    by MRX67

    that doesn't give me much hope for star trek either. Perhaps we have learned a valuable lesson here. Don't give in to the hype.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:58 a.m. CST

    But, Fluffy

    by LaserPants

    There's a difference between an intelligent argument, and a borderline psychotic rant. I'm not sure that your opinion is quite what I'm talking about -- Box's is more approximate -- but your comment:<br><br> "Everyone who complains about shaky cam is that bitch in spirit. You may as well be somebody's mom, dude. Somebody's skirt-wearing, minivan-driving, gets-a-migraine-and-nausea-on- a-boat mom."<br><br> Is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. Time to calm down and learn how to argue without coming off, well, like a 6th grader with serious anger issues. I won't even touch the misogyny element because I believe that almost everyone is a sexist whether they know it or not. It's part of the species and sex is, at its heart, the most intoxicating violence.<br><br> Btw, digressing, but, not sure what society you live in, but I never got the sense I was "indoctrinated" to not have an opinion or to espouse or defend said opinion. I was, however, taught how to have a discussion or argument about something without stooping to ridiculous insults that point to a clearly undiagnosed mild form of schizophrenia -- the inability to distinguish between the self and what the self enjoys to watch, read, or consume in some other way. To whit -- that what an individual enjoys isn't only what they enjoy, but is ACTUALLY an extension of the self. That's clearly a sign of mental illness. And this kind of mental illness seems to be presenting on a mass scale if the "internets" are any indication. De-evolution being, apparently, very real.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:04 a.m. CST

    What stupid decisions?

    by jokayhn

    They are in the middle of confusion and faced with pain and loss and Rob decides to go for Beth. Thats what being in love will do, especially when you realize you screwed up. You are willing to make a sacrifice to prove yourself and he knew one thing which is there would be no calling 911 for her. No cop, no fireman, no soldier would get there in time and as the story progressed there was the likelihood that no one would ever get to her or care to try but him. Its not like all the normal avenues of leaving the city had worked out for them. They didn't choose to run under the legs of the monster. They were running along and the monster comes barreling down the street and steps over them. A matter of perspective. They tried going underground and that didn't work out either. It was a smart decision at the time but I wouldnt do it either after knowing those creatures might be down there. There is one point where Hud looks off to his left while running down the street and he sees the monster running down the other side of the street, some sort of interchange and its clear that they are all running right along with it. But the others were well ahead of him and were not in a position to see what he saw. That they were likely to merge when the streets connected again. Not a stupid decision to keep running as Hud couldnt get through to the guys ahead what they were doing. There was a point when Rob first decided to tell them he was going for Beth, he told them to follow the crowd out and not come with him but they went with him anyway. If I were friends with someone I would have a hard time leaving them to face a challenge alone just to go off and get in some long evacuation line. Hell if I were a casual acquaintance I might hesitate leaving anything that was a comfort to me, friends, in that kind of situation regardless of the result. Its not a stupid decision, its natural. As for the dialog, people say stupid things, corny things. In real life not all one liners can be pulled off, Good luck Travis...oh BURN! No but its realistic because its flawed. Too often the things people say in a movie are perfect. People talk over one another, sentences are started and never finished, thoughts are started and never realized, the wrong word is used or mispronounced...thats reality and I think the director wanted people to really feel like they were in this story more so than the story was just being told to them. As to the movie and audience disapproval. I walked out quietly and I heard plenty that were disappointed saying it was BS and they wasted their money (though apparently chose not to walk out in the middle). They didn't like the untidy ending. To me art is not always tidy. Many people want a movie to end happily and I like it when movies sometimes do the unexpected and leave you with the emotions that were built up while watching it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:07 a.m. CST

    by HOTDOGVNDR

    http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/01/06/video-footage-of-cloverfield-monster-destroying-chaui-station-rob-hired-by-slusho

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:33 a.m. CST

    A "Lost" story

    by Specimen64

    This is what I'm banking on. *why did Cloverfield just happen to come out 2 weeks before the Lost season starts? *with the timer in the hatch no longer "saving the world" we have no idea what they were saving the world from. *Cloverfield is not a story that would work on TV...commercials would kill this form of story telling *so much left up in the air at the end of Cloverfield leaving a lot of story for Lost to tell.... Watch some of the Lost footage...there are clues

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:41 a.m. CST

    Like I wrote, good film, but

    by TheLastCleric

    Seriously, all this talk of “masterpiece” and “genius” is getting pretty far fucking out of control. There is nothing genius about this film and in fact it borrows an incredible amount of its structure from Blair Witch despite the differences in plot. SPOILER ALERT The ending where they film themselves saying goodbye was not only derivative of BWP, it was incredibly lame that they actually picked up the camera after Hud was killed. And the “I love you” exchange after the bombs hit was fucking feeble and almost made me laugh out loud. Actually, the melodrama was pretty thick and pretty lame throughout. Again, I liked the movie but it doesn’t even begin to approach the quality of films like Aliens, JAWS, or even more recently, The Mist.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:57 a.m. CST

    I agree with LaserPants

    by Mr.F.N.Sunshine

    and even though I've visited this site for years I've hardly participated in the Talkbacks for that very reason. As far as shaky cam goes, it is a good tool for directors in certain scenes and most of the time I don't mind it but here it felt like a crutch they simply wouldn't stop using. And Specimen, the only thing this movie has in common with Lost is that they both have good premises that were bungled in execution. I gave up on that show after an excellent first season.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST

    Marketing Cloverfield

    by Specimen64

    This whole viral strategy was about information control used to build enthusiam. If Cloverfield had clear Lost ties then some of the interactivity that feeds Lost and this movie is Lost. If Lost comes on in two weeks with the reveal then this movies boxoffice is extended...and perhaps grows far larger with the pub it gets.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    RE: What stupid decisions?

    by jcrow

    For starters, not ever keeping any kind of weapon. Certainly not for Clovie, but even once they learn by experience of the lil' guys, they forego a crowbar, guns (at least they could have asked), going to loot a sporting goods store/pawn shop, they leave a place of safety with at least water, etc. I'm not criticizing the decision to go get his would-be girlfriend, as I understand that. But many other choices were just stupid. Hud sucked. Was very glad when he got killed. He was a complete tool. In an earlier post I wrote about being absolutely willing to suspend disbelief but that my enjoyment of this film was undermined b/c of the characters' stupid decisions, and others jumped my shit because of that, saying I am the type of person who doesn't enjoy horror movies, etc. That's not true. This was a film that at least in some part was aimed at realism (as realistic as this situation is) and I'm just saying that if the characters had made better decisions, e.g. keeping a fucking weapon handy, asking the military to have one, taking one off of a dead soldier, etc., then I wouldn't have been pulled out of the film. But there were so many stupid decisions, I just didn't care if they died, and frankly, wanted them to so they wouldn't infect the gene pool with their stupidity.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Wow...

    by Rando Calrisian

    Came back to this thread after checking it yesterday, and I have to say, it's quite impressive. <br> <br> Love it or hate it, this movie is causing a lot of people to talk and speculate. That is what a good movie does. Personally I enjoyed it a lot. It delivered exactly what I expected, and I plan on seeing it again, just to see the shot of Clovey falling from the sky. I didn't notice it when I saw it the first time. There were at least 4 times in the film that I was laughing giddily to myself at the destruction. Yeah, the video motion was a little queesy, but it seemed realistic to me - for a FREAKIN' monster movie... come on, man, what do you expect? This ain't Citizen Kane, its a Giant Monster Destroying New York movie. It delivers the goods. <br> <br> There is no doubt that this movie will make an extrordinary amount of profit. It was stated above that the budget for this film was $30 million. Guaranteed, this movie will make a profit this weekend. The talk that it is spurring will not only pay for this movie, but probably Star Trek as well. <br> <br> There are a lot of people writing here that dislike the movie, but there is a much larger number that really seem to love it. Not every movie is for everybody. I really love the fact that there are still a lot of unanswered questions, and I can't wait to see what happens next. That, to me, is great film making. <br> <br> I say Great job, J.J. - I know you are reading this thread today, and will be laughing all the way to the bank on Monday. You promised a cool monster movie, and that is exactly what I saw.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:28 a.m. CST

    Laserpants

    by FluffyUnbound

    Sorry to harp on this, but I definitely disagree: "a clearly undiagnosed mild form of schizophrenia -- the inability to distinguish between the self and what the self enjoys to watch, read, or consume in some other way." I think that's a funny way to think about the fact that some people are smart enough to realize the unavoidable implications of other people's arguments. What you are calling an "inability to distinguish between the self and what the self enjoys" I would call the ability to follow an implication through a two step argument. If you insult the things that I like, you are, by implication, clearly insulting the aspect of me that made the judgment to like them. For example, consider the Hummer. I think that anyone who buys a Hummer is clearly an asshole. Not because it "hurts the environment" or anything like that, but because when you purchase the Hummer you are stating that you have either responded to its marketing, or that you have a self-image that includes a vision of yourself behind the wheel of a Hummer. Either way: asshole. It isn't schizophrenia. It's merely thinking the situation through.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:31 a.m. CST

    this movie gave me a worse hangover

    by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran

    than goldschlager. Motion sickness has never been so evil. i would have probably loved it otherwise, but i;ll never know for sure.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:29 p.m. CST

    What would've been cool

    by lizardo99

    was if JJ had used that "Sensurround" effect from that stupid "Earthquake" movie waaaaay back in 1975 (Charlton Heston as a supercool architect! Ava Gardner as his skanky wife! Richard Roundtree as an Evel Knievel wannabe! Victoria Principal as a young skank! And the original Admiral Adama himself as skanky Ava's daddy! I thought I was gonna shit myself when I saw that movie and the low frequency soundtrack kicked in. Then again I was only 12 years old at the time. Funny that just like Earthquake I didn't give a shit about the characters in Cloverfield. In fact, I was kinda chuckling every time one of those self-absorbed Entitlement Generation fuckwits got smashed, eaten or transformed. I give it a solid B. Oh and BTW is the entire population of Manhattan under 30 years old? I get it that the party people would all be that age, but seriously I didn't see a single old skeezer on the bridge, in the streets, or anywhere for that matter. Oh wait. I know why I didn't see them. The monsters ate them because they were slower than the cool people. You don't gotta be faster than the creature; you just gotta faster than the slowest person in Manhattan!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:31 p.m. CST

    Where were the Power Rangers???

    by jdl82

    I might never think of the Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers the same way again. New York really needed them.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:32 p.m. CST

    Enough with "Cloverdud"

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    It shall henceforth be known unto the haters as "Cloverfeeble", or I'm not reading your posts. Take it to the bank.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    $16.9m first day, per BoxifficeGuru...

    by Pennsy

    So figure maybe $45 mil for the weekend, which would make it the biggest January opening ever in movie history.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST

    FUCK SHIT GODDAMN SHAKY CAMERA FUCK

    by BMacSmith

    ruined it. sorry. pretty much sums it up. You never get to see anything cool. its like sex without the climax. If its going to be told from the point of view of a few regular people, the people have to be interesting. but these people were generic horror caricatures. they were boring and whiny.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    cameraman:the most annoying character since Jar Jar

    by BMacSmith

    so glad he died

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:49 p.m. CST

    AICN overhyped this just like I am Legend

    by GibsonUSA

    And both were "meh"....the type of movies you sort of get into while it plays the first time, but after that you have no intention of watching it ever again. One of those. "Meh".....save the hype for the truly deserving please...this was a pure Januart movie....pretty good, but January movie nonetheless.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:50 p.m. CST

    I don't get it

    by Vern

    I can understand not liking this movie. "I'd rather see a normal Godzilla movie" is one legitimate excuse, another one is "the guy next to me threw up in my lap, and that sucked." But some of you were mad because "it was all build up" and your questions weren't answered? What questions? Why would you think they would be answered? Why do you need them answered? What kind of great answer do you think there is gonna be for "where did the monster come from"? It's like the people who were infuriated by Mission Impossible Part 3 and the "rabbit's foot." Why the fuck do you need to know what the rabbit's foot is? IT'S SOME KIND OF WEAPON THAT DOES BAD SHIT. If that's not enough for you just make something up for yourself. Jesus. You can't even say "people need to be spoonfed everything these days" because that goes beyond spoonfeeding. It's just some weird logic loop in your brain, why the fuck can't you get past that, it makes no sense.<P> Here is a more extreme example because it's not even like they toy with you. It never occurred to me that they would "explain" the shit you guys wanted explained. It's a big fuckin monster that crawled out of the sea, what kind of "answer" do you really need? And why did you think these people running with the camcorder would ever discover it? If it's really so hard on your brain here is the answer:<p> Cloverfield is a giant cafeteria worker from the planet Cloverfieldica. His name is Cloverfield. He was tired of the bully space aliens shooting lasers at him so he farted like one of the space bugs in Starship Troopers and it made him fly through space. Then he landed in the water. A bunch of nerds got boners and kept saying "Cthulu" to each other. Then he ate some people. Also he has poor hygiene so spiders crawl off of his scalp. On his home planet girls don't like him either, but he got real pissed when the Statue of Liberty put her nose up at him so he tore her head off. If he ever phones home they're gonna put him away because this fucker is not safe in society. then there is a bomb. There you go everybody, enjoy the movie.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:58 p.m. CST

    mist > cloverfield

    by BMacSmith

    much scarier. I felt terrible for those poor bastards in that grocery store..

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    My two major questions about the movie.

    by GibsonUSA

    The movie was just "okay"...years from now it will not be on any of our minds at all...it'll be a "Ohhhhhhh, I think I remember that movie!" type of deal...but the probs I had with the movie (as a casual moviegoer) were:<BR><BR> 1. The cameraman isnt the type that would hold onto the camera like that. He was portrayed as a goofy, dumb guy who didnt even want the camera at the start. I know people with his personality. The second the monster hit, the camera would be thrown on the groud and he'd be outta there at 100 mph.<BR><BR> 2. Like someone already said, no weapons? Every single person in this talkback would have been walking around with a bat, axe, or something. They were in that little subway office room with time to cool down a bit, and they didnt even think to take anything with them, not even some of those water bottles.<BR><BR> 3. That girl who was bit, when they went into the military camp, not of her friends bothered to say "my friend is bitten!"...they just walked forward past all the other injured people asking about the douchbags girlfriend.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:05 p.m. CST

    Make that three questions/issues.

    by GibsonUSA

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah, did the monster change size, or were there multiple?

    by GibsonUSA

    In the beginning he was rampaging through the city like Godzilla...but at the end when it came face to face with the guy, it was like 100x smaller.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:16 p.m. CST

    Re: MRX67

    by jdl82

    It is NOT a "dudd." It really is a brilliant movie. And you're a 40-year-old Turkish Muslim, according to your MySpace page. <p>And Mr.F.N.Sunshine? You're a college student in Massachussettes.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Stupid and illogical decisions

    by Dapper Swindler

    Before I saw this, a lot of people were complaining about how the characters acted stupid and illogically and that ruined the movie for them. It was stupid and illogical for Rob to go after Beth. But it was also stupid and illogical for Rob to be in love with someone for a long time and never do anything about it. It was stupid and illogical for Rob to sleep with Beth and never call her. It was stupid and illogical for Rob to act like a baby when Beth brought Travis to the party. So you see Rob, is simply stupid and illogical and his stupid and illogical decision to go after Beth made sense for his character. It was clearly established that he is an emotional dumbass. So the characters were stupid and illogical but they were also realistic - so it didn't hurt the movie for me.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:33 p.m. CST

    the only stupid decision that bugged me was...

    by BMacSmith

    every time the monster did something cool, the cameraman instead decided to focus on one of the characters (or nothing at all), as if I wouldnt know what the fuck they are feeling/doing. i dont need to see that. i need to see MONSTERS WRECKING SHIT!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:36 p.m. CST

    Vern: Without the questions, this is just Godzilla...

    by HappyHamster

    People were expecting MORE than "just Godzilla" because of the marketing around the film. Every commercial indicated that while this thing *could* be some Godzilla-like creature, there was a possibility that it could be something else...and the one commercial with the shadows behind the medical tent indicated it might have even been a human sized creature.<p> But after all that speculation/hype/excitement, we just got another Godzilla flick with a Blair Witch gimmick.<p> It wasn't bad, sure. But it wasn't a "reinvention" (as Harry says) either. It's just two gimmicks squished into one in a decent manner. That's why you have people disappointed. <p> While I admit to being disappointed, I still thought it was a decent movie. But it's not the kind of movie I'll tell people to rush out and see either.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:37 p.m. CST

    Completely mixed feelings for this one

    by JoshtheCaptain

    I can't get over how much disbelief the filmmakers wanted you to suspend. For instance... 1. Why would Hud film Rob telling his mother that her other son is dead? Any decent human being would have turned the camera off for that. 2. The monster is impervious to bombs and missiles, yet it has no defensive exoskeleton or superthick skin or apparent regenerative powers. 3. How could Beth survive a nasty torso impalement for several hours? How could any of them have survived the copter crash? 4. Insted of outright swallowing him, the monster apparently just pecks at Hud and tears him in two, when the monsters jaws are clearly big enough to swallow a volkswagon Overall, fun movie, but hardly intellegent sci-fi

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:41 p.m. CST

    love it or hate it...CLOVERFIELD worked

    by AlphaTrion

    and only because we have very few good examples to compare it to. Im sure godzilla scared some kids way back when but not today. mark my words, the monster is from space and as 1-18-08.com points out, it was finally defeated by the NAVY out at sea. those "whale parts" do not look like whale parts. one of them has spikes coming off of it. id bet money on it. sorry, no cloverfield in california or cloverfield goes to paris, unless more of them start falling from the sky.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 1:52 p.m. CST

    Vern!

    by HOTDOGVNDR

    "Here is a more extreme example because it's not even like they toy with you." They don't? slusho.com, Tagruato.com tidowave.com. I consider that fucked with....It was an awesome fucking movie though!!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:01 p.m. CST

    Rather, all these tbers would be holding the fort down in their

    by theredtoad

    with their moms. Who cares about the stupid decisions they make, because all the characters are going through a shitload of craziness to stop and collect their thoughts for a sec. Except for the subway part.. And I do remember looking up over Rob's shoulder (or was it Beths? whoever was on the right side of the screen) and I saw a giant fucking jellyfish just floating along the water. Anyone else see that? Whatever object it was, it's scale is too big for anything human relative to its distance from the shore.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    What A Lot of You DONT GET!!!

    by davy jones owns

    is that this movie isnt just a monster movie. its a character movie with a monster in it. i just got back from the first view and i was impressed! i can not remember the last time i sat in those ass killer theatre seats and forgot where i was, what was happening, what time it was, what day it was. This movie draws you in. It makes you CARE about these people as if you know them or could know them or maybe went to a party with once or twice. Its real. And for some of you people ITS TOO REAL! you need everything spelled out, you need an ultra effective military or a scientist uncovering the weakness of the beast. this movie IS NOT GODZILA, its not TRYING to be godzilla. It is its own. I saw a talkbacker saying he saw the subway clip on MTV and didnt feel a thing. Fuck dude its MTV. Did you see the buildup to that scene? The terror, confusion, DEATHS, destruction and everything just going ape shit but in a believable way (like the bridge scene?) Everyone needs to get off their high movie-going-cinema-exclusive-artsy-fartsy-man-in-suit-typical-dialouge-typical-script-high horses and EXAMINE THIS! This movie makes it real. Its what any of us would do in a crazy messued up situation like this: Freak Out, Run, Freak Out, Hide, Run, Scream, Calm Down, Hide, Freak Out, Help someone you love, Run, Freakout, Hide. Thats how you stay alive. See the movie again if you didnt like it and think on these terms. On REAL terms, instead of MOVIE terms.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:09 p.m. CST

    imagine how obnoxious it would be if studios started massproduci

    by troutpencil

    A mysterious viral-marketing campaign not revealing the plot every fucking year, or more than once a year, featuring the same type of pretty vlogger cast to capture the right demographic. I wouldn't mind if they made more monster and science fiction movies but holy shit that would be an awful trend, one of the worst.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:10 p.m. CST

    *massproducing ripoffs of movies like these

    by troutpencil

    damnable

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:12 p.m. CST

    RE: Stupid and illogical decisions

    by GibsonUSA

    " But it was also stupid and illogical for Rob to be in love with someone for a long time and never do anything about it. It was stupid and illogical for Rob to sleep with Beth and never call her. It was stupid and illogical for Rob to act like a baby when Beth brought Travis to the party. So you see Rob, is simply stupid and illogical and his stupid and illogical decision to go after Beth made sense for his character. It was clearly established that he is an emotional dumbass."<BR><BR> Huh?? None of those things you cited are as stupid or illogical as him going after Beth weaponless, abandoning his mom and all those waiting for him. Guys that like a girl and dont make a move, or sleep with a girl and dont call, or act like a baby when a girl brings another guy....thats normal and everyday. Running into the adopted liar of a giant monster weaponless and with some dork behind you with a camcorder is a whole other level.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:13 p.m. CST

    last scene of movie: falling monster or satellite?

    by Boomers_Lips

    i keep reading on different sites that it was a satellite that fell, and the company that Rob worked for went down to retrieve it and then started drilling for something else, and thats basically what woke the monster up.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:15 p.m. CST

    Re: What A Lot of You DONT GET!!!

    by GibsonUSA

    "See the movie again if you didnt like it and think on these terms." <BR><BR> This sentence makes no sense. <BR> Will you pay for my ticket? And my time?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    oh and some more too

    by davy jones owns

    on the "multiple size" subject: it probably looked bigger because it was on two legs in certain scenes. Im not 100% sure but i think near the end its crawling on all five. i do know that it can switch from stand to crawl though. GibsonUSA here are answers: 1. Hud was drunk or at least partially drunk for the beginning of the movie. When im drunk i'll do things im not good at or would never usually do. (like draw or try to play the kazoo with my nose) regardless a camera is one of the siplest things to use. Turn on, point, record. All it takes. So dont disect all the angles as being too good for Hud. 2.This is kinda dumb friend, not too many real people are fond of carrying weapons. most of the population has never shot a gun, been in a fight or used a weapon of any kind. Why would they grab weapons to carry around with them everywhere? That makes less sense than them not having any at all 3.I agree with you on this one. But why didnt the girl just say "SHUT THE FUCK UP ROB! IM THE ONE WITH A BIG GASH IN MY BACK STOP CRYING ABOUT FINDING YO WOMAN KNEE GROW!"

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    "Roar! (Cloverfield Overture)"

    by Alexandra.DuPont

    My big question is: When will that stunning 10-minute monster-movie pastiche by Michael Giacchino be available for purchase/download? It's a fun suite of music, and I think the studio made a big mistake not making this readily available to score nerds.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:26 p.m. CST

    Clarifying

    by davy jones owns

    GibsonUSA what i meant to say was "Everyone stop being a little bitch and just enjoy the fucking movie for what it is." oh and just wait for it to go to the dollar movies. then see it again. thats what im gonna do instead of laying down 8.75

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:37 p.m. CST

    Nah personally I'd grab a weapon. :)

    by GibsonUSA

    You know all those sitcoms where the character hears a sound, or is fearful, then he walks into the scene with a bat or something, and the "studio audience" laughs? Well IMO thats the natural reaction. I've never held a gun before, but when I am fearful, or walking down a dark alley or corridor in intense wat-like situation...you can bet your ass I'm holding onto something...a chair, an axe, a hammer...anything. It doesnt matter if I am normally not use to using weapons...in that situation its human nature to protect oneself IMO. It would feel more awkward to me walking down empty handed, I'd feel naked. At least I'd have supplies with me, water bottles, stuff in a bag....there were quieter moments in the movie for the characters to calm downa bit and think of those things.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:47 p.m. CST

    Yaay Cloverfield

    by Mockingbuddha

    Just thought I'd make this TB a bit longer with my wit and wisdom. Cloverfield fun! If you've ever managed to sit through an episode of Friends, you can survive the characters and acting in this movie, but if you're watching Cloverfield thinking about the actors just go home. I love blockbusters, but this past summer was just a let down, SpiderMan 3? Transformers? This movie is just what I needed. Bug Nuts!!!!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:50 p.m. CST

    Maybe...

    by toxic182

    Since I saw the film and would like to make some of the scenes more beliveable. I thought of some theories seeing as we don't know the plot. The theory is two monsters, a parent and a baby. It only makes sense with three arguments. 1 Alot of people are complaining about creature size; one small one and one large one would make sense. 2. A better reason as to why they didnt even fucking hear the monster in the park when Hud gets fucked up. 3. At the end we hear its still alive' assuming its Rob, I'm sure the smaller creature would survive the blast if Rob did. Only a theory and if you haven't heard about the mangas follow them cause taraguato is managing to control a creature with just chains and a boat, and there no way that would work for the larger creature. We don't know why the crature attacked, but mommy looking for her baby would make sense too. Anyways I feel they could do alot with the story if thats the case, cause it would leave you wondering wheres the dad, which could be an even bigger abomination, and the idea that if the mothers dead and noone knows about the baby, everyones fucked. Just a theory, go ahead mock it if you will, but until i hear otherwise it seems like a better plot line than alien coming down and killing everyone for no reason. Although Vern's plot could sell. But as well as i"m a little peeved that they treat this like its a real world event with news casts and fake companies, the least they could have done is made one mention the day after.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    was the name always going to be cloverfield?

    by Lloyd Bonafide the Korean War Veteran

    Or did it just catch on after everyone started calling it that?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:53 p.m. CST

    Id rather have a gun or an rpg

    by davy jones owns

    but i would suck at using it haha. i just think carrying a weapon would slow me down. oalso it was kind of odd how there were no monster lice crawling around the city or in buildings. it would be way more terrifying if they were everywhere, making people explode in a bloddy mess

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    1-18-08.com photos

    by Zardoz

    That huge body on the shore HAS to be the creature, not a beached whale, or whatever, as others are guessing. It's obviously several mangled tentacles of Clovey. But what about the shot of the fisherman in a boat dumping a crate into blood-filled water? Whassup with that? I can't believe I missed a shot of something falling into the water at the end of the film; now I've got to go see it again!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:54 p.m. CST

    Orrr..

    by toxic182

    Using back story, small creature came to earth and lived near where this sweet nectar is. SLusho and Taraguato connected, slusho steals it's main source of food, and the reason why its so big now. We steal its only source of food and it follows the trail. Whats the first thing attacked in the film? Oil Hauler, whioch if this Targuato what ever its called uses the same ships to ship the new sweet nectar, well the monster would follow that boat, which may have stopped off a chuai station on its way to new york. the boat gets to new york and slowly comes in at night moster attacks it looking for food, destroys all its food, goes apeshit. Simple story of we fuck with mother nature and destroy habitatsx, we're all fucked. Thats all I got.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 2:56 p.m. CST

    but

    by toxic182

    the fucking I love you's are really truly a sad pathetic ending, they we're not needed, and if you've sene kis kiss bang bang know that it was just part of some hollywood people saying well there has to be smothing mushy about it... fuckers ruined the ending.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:02 p.m. CST

    Total movie spoiler at:

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/cloverfield.html Sounds okay, but JJ ain't getting my $10 until Star Trek, and maybe not even then.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST

    So wait

    by KinjoAlcoholicNinja

    You've just risked your life and the lives of those around you to save the woman you love and all this time you've been thinking "I never got a chance to tell her how I feel" and now you have seconds to live and you're alone with her and right before you die, you wouldn't think to say "I love you?" Don't be such a cynical douchebag.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:05 p.m. CST

    Yeah, the "Overture" ...

    by stabbim

    <p>...was fan-freakin-tastic. I'd love to get my hands on a copy.</p> <p>As to the movie itself, I thought it was interesting and worth sitting through. Certainly not worth the kind of hyperbole that Harry, in particular, has heaped upon it, but I'm used to that.</p> <p>I realized pretty early on that the context of the film would be narrow so there wouldn't be any "answers" (and more to the point, answers weren't relevant) and that the characters weren't engaging enough for me to care whether they got stomped/chomped or not...but I dug it as a visceral experience, and thought from a purely cinematic point of view that they did a great job of juxtaposing the epic scale of the events with the tiny filter through which we view them.</p>

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    Happy Hamster

    by Vern

    You said: "Every commercial indicated that while this thing *could* be some Godzilla-like creature there was a possibility that it could be something else...and the one commercial with the shadows behind the medical tent indicated it might have even been a human sized creature."<p> I don't know man, to me it seems like some of you guys are coming up with some pretty poetical interpretations of these things. I mean, I saw the trailer - the Statue of Liberty head rolls down the street and then there's a roar. I saw the poster - the Statue of Liberty with its head ripped off and claw marks on it. I don't really know how else to interpret that but "giant monster" and I don't know what it was you were hoping for when you said it might be "something else." Or why you would hope it was a human sized monster that ripped the head off the Statue of Liberty and made giant claw marks in it using its human sized claws. I guess they confused some people with all that silly "viral" bullshit but I don't watch Lost or play video games so I didn't pay attention to that stuff. Anyway thanks for the insights.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:14 p.m. CST

    I Love You Too, Man!

    by Rando Calrisian

    If I were in that situation, knowing the shit was going down... watching the bombers coming in to nuke he fucking city, I'm pretty sure I'd tell the woman I love that I love her.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:33 p.m. CST

    Seems like...

    by LedgerIsJoker

    ...everyone who participated in that viral marketing crap ended up hating the movie because it went in a totally different direction. I didn't partake (or even know about) all that stuff and really wasn't THAT excited about the movie in the first place but my friends dragged me along to see it opening night at midnight - was fucking blown away. One of the most intense experiences I have ever had in a movie theater. Brilliant filmmaking.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    Also

    by LedgerIsJoker

    I didn't like transformers much.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    What I find amusing

    by HExTeXly

    Is that the same people who are pissed off about a lack of an explanation--are the SAME people would be online picking that explanation apart (either for being "too stupid" or "too much like Godzilla.") Give me a break. Just face it, 44% of humanity is infantile and is never happy with anything they are given.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    What it just me or..

    by tcb039io

    did Beardy McAfro from the trailer get his line cut: "This is going to be the best night ever."

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST

    "Was it just me"

    by tcb039io

    not "What it just me" I gotta get off the crack.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:53 p.m. CST

    Vern- I repost my old "Why casual filmgoers will hate it" post

    by cromwell1666

    Most people NEED convention in presentation,i.e. linear plot with clear answers in the end. They get angry and frustrated when they don't get it. You will hear exclamations from people who just have to let everyone know "That was sooo stupid!" I remember at Fellowship some Nascar dude exclaiming "What a Ripoff!!!" when Frodo and Sam walked towards Mordor and the film ended. I noticed similar frustration with films like Run Lola Run and Vanilla Sky. When convention is twisted or experimented with even in the slightest(its not like its Maya Deren or Stan Brackhage) there is violent resistance and hatred. Stupid people don't like thoughts and feelings and when they are forced upon them by something, they can't take it and blurt. Must be some sort of psychological defense mechanism to justify the vacuum.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    I'd rescue the love of my life...

    by Zardoz

    ...in the face of overwhelming odds and potential death, for sure! I mean, if I survived and she died, the guilt I'd feel afterwards would be too much to handle, so I don't think Rob was an idiot for wanting to save the girl, at all...

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:55 p.m. CST

    Also to those same people...

    by cromwell1666

    Stay away from Citizen Kane, the entire Bergman and Lynch libraries. Your frustration will immolate you.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    Gee, cromwell

    by tcb039io

    I wish I was as smart as you.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    crappy monster = bad monster movie

    by BMacSmith

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    Re: tcb039io

    by ur-vile

    Another thing left out: Either it was re-edited or something, but I think one of the early trailers had Hud or Rob talking to the horse carriage guy about he was filming the events. Overall I loved the movie. Though I found a horse carriage strolling around while a monster is tearing the shit out of NYC a little odd. The fact that no one in the group grabbed a gun or something I thought was kinda weak. I haven't shot a gun since I was a kid, but personally I would have asked the soldier for a weapon or pulled one off a body or something. Fuckin' lice spiders lol. Minor complaints. PS - anyone literally get sick after the movie? The Boy and myself were fine, my girlfriend and her mom didn't handle the shaky cam so well lol.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    tcb039io

    by cromwell1666

    Not the point. Just voicing frustration with the people who shake their heads in disbelief at new things or at things they are notsupposed to understand. They are responsible for the lack of new ideas in film and life for thart matter.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    ur-vile

    by tcb039io

    The Hud line about filming the events came when they were crossing the Brooklyn Bridge, not when the saw the horse. He was also the one who said that they could die in the subway, die here, etc., but he didn't say it when Rob was pointing at the subway sign like in the trailer.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:08 p.m. CST

    cromwell

    by tcb039io

    Try to give a guy a compliment...

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    tcb039io

    by cromwell1666

    Do you always start your compliments with "Gee?"

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:15 p.m. CST

    cromwell

    by tcb039io

    Yes.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:15 p.m. CST

    cromwell1666

    by HExTeXly

    You're right, it seems many people do just lash out at things they don't get. BTW--I'm still cracking up reading some of the older posts (like the guy who was hoping it was a human sized monster). WTF?!?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:21 p.m. CST

    The thing that falls in the water

    by ur-vile

    Are there any clear shots of that last "flashback" at the end of the movie. Found a couple clips but I can't make out anything. I totally spaced when I watched it last night and didn't catch it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:22 p.m. CST

    For the haters...

    by ebonic_plague

    I have been reading some of the complaints about this movie, and I think I have come up with a version of Cloverfield they could enjoy, possibly in 10 years when it is remade. Naturally, it would have to be directed by a japanese or korean director that is virturally unknown among mainstream american audiences. The movie would start off with a camera panning around a dingy little shithole of an apartment, cluttered with dirty dishes, grubby laundry, and countless 80's action figures in original packaging that line every shelf. The cameraman sneaks into an adjoining room, where a fat guy in a stained wifebeater is passed out on a bed, dog eared copies of High Society strewn all over his G1 Transformers collectible bedspread as he snores. The cameraman sneaks closer, and giggling, he sticks his ass up to the snoring guy's face and blasts him awake with a resonant fart. They scuffle around for a second then the cameraman says, "Get ready, you fat piece of shit, I'm not going to miss out on my copy of Halo 3 on account of your lazy ass! Now make sure you have your mom's credit card, I'll bring the food and the chairs, we'll get a good spot in the line. Don't forget the Magic cards, dick!" Then there's a bunch of jump cuts as they take the train across town to the Best Buy, mostly snippets of dialogue of them complaining about popular movies and games. Then it cuts to a different scene a few weeks later, a bunch of baggy clothed nerds sitting around a basement, all focused intently on a TV screen showing some FPS multiplayer game, as death metal plays softly in the background. There is little conversation as they play, everyone is cheering on the main nerd (Rob) to unlock some ridiculously hard achievement. Suddenly, there's a terrible roar and a loud explosion, and everyone reacts in horror as the lights flicker, but then give audible sighs of relief to see that the power has not gone out and the X-Box didn't reset itself. The cameraman, Duh, asks "What was that?" but nobody seems concerned, still focused on the TV. "Probably just another garbage truck hit the building. Just keep filming, he's about to do it." Then the power goes out for real, and everyone starts swearing angrily, but nobody gets off the couch. Rob and Duh and a few others try to go find the superintendant, but when they get to the bottom floor, they find everyone in the streets gathered around the statue of liberty's severed head. Duh pans the camera around, and while everyone else's back is conveniently turned, he catches a full body shot of a giant monster standing next to the Empire State building to show it's exact scale, and he yells for everyone to look, but they turn around too late and miss it. Everyone starts arguing about the situation, some people saying it can't possibly be the real statue of liberty because that could never happen. Duh mentions that he got the monster on tape, and it cuts back to the nerds on a train again for a second, then when it cuts back everyone is arguing. Duh swears it's clearly a giant lion, but others seem to think it's Cthulhu. One guy keeps screaming about Voltron coming to save us. As everyone speculates about the monster and where it's headed, the camera pans over to Rob, who has decided he's going back to his mom's apartment. Duh assumes he's going to save his mom, but it becomes clear he's going to rescue his priceless DVD collection and his X-Box with all his saved information on it. But Duh is insistant on not leaving the scene until he can ensure that the video footage he's shooting will be easily watchable, and demands that they look for a steadicam. Rob, however, is a closet Dawson's Creek fan and, remembering an episode, he pulls a disabled guy out of his wheelchair and proceeds to push Duh around in it, providing a smooth, clear shot of their journey through the streets. They make their way through the city, and Rob gets a call on his cell phone from his crying mother, who is paralyzed from fear and trying to fend off alien lion cubs that are trying to break down her door. "Mom, I don't have time for your bullshit right now, just tell me one thing, is everything in my room still OK?" Then the monster shows up again and eats some more people, and our protagonists run away, angrily bickering about the proper classification of the monster and where it originates from. They escape to the subway, and attempt to travel through the tunnels to reach Rob's mom's apartment, but they are attacked by little tentacle faced lion cubs, who bite one of Rob's friends making him break down crying like a little bitch. Then as they exit the tunnels, they are taken into custody by the military, who bring them to a triage center. Rob takes one of the commanding officers aside and demands to know what is going on, and the officer lights a cigarette and launches into a detailed flashback exposition of the previous 3 years of outer space research and everything that has led to the monster showing up and destroying the city. Then he stubs out his cigarette and fixes his steely eyes on each one of them. "Even though we know exactly what it is and where it came from, it's still winning. OK, WE'RE MOVING OUT! Lock and load, gentlemen, tag em and bag em, we need to hit it hard and fast, I want short controlled bursts! Perhaps today is a good day to die!" So Rob and his buddies grab Duh in his wheelchair and roll out towards Rob's mom's apartment. They arrive to find it all smashed up, but Rob lives on the ground floor so they just break a window and go inside, where they find Rob's mom gruesomely torn apart on the floor, but miraculously the DVD collection and X-box have survived intact. Rob cries, however, to see his mint-in-box Star Trek figures have been destroyed, but his friends (just Duh and some random fat girl, at this point) group hug him until he calls them queers, and then it's kinda awkward for a second. So they load up and head back to the makeshift military camp, only to find it smashed in the center of a giant lion-esque footprint. But they find a working walkie-talkie on the ground and manage to hear that there is a helicopter waiting down the street to evacuate survivors. They show up to see the monster fighting the military, and the scene lasts for a good 40 minutes, with clear in-focus shots of the monster being attacked by every manner of modern military hardware. Then they get on a helicopter that transports them approximately 50 feet before it crashes. Rob and the fat girl scramble from the wreckage, but Duh refuses to comprimise the integrity of his footage by moving the camera around in a jerky attempt to escape, and is gobbled up and chewed thoroughly. The camera then falls to the ground and is picked up by Rob (who is still sifting through the wreckage for his DVD's.) The crackling radio in the crashed helicopter alerts them to the fact that Voltron has been called in, and will be leveling the city within minutes in an attempt to stop the monster. Rob and the fat girl escape to another tunnel, where Rob gets all emotional, reading the summaries of his favorite movies from the DVD covers to the barely conscious fat girl. He starts sobbing when he realizes that the situation he is in now is just a badly ripped-off version of the Blair Witch project, a movie he hated in theaters for "pandering" to the mainstream. Then he hears the familiar approach of Voltron about to impact the city, and turns to his fat female companion as the tunnel begins to shake apart. "LOOK AT ME! I'VE NEVER BEEN WITH A GIRL BEFORE! CAN I TOUCH YOUR BOOBS? I SAID, CAN I TOU--" And then it cuts to black for a second, and then back to the two nerds on the train, victoriously holding their copies of Halo 3. "Today was better than chocolate covered pussy juice!" And off in the distance, you hear a lion roar.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    I want my 80 minutes back

    by The Decider

    Guess I'm too old to like bad movies.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    re: Viral Marketing

    by Rando Calrisian

    I did not participate much in the "viral marketing" campaign for this movie. Can anyone out there kind of state the things they did? <br> <br> The thing about online marketing is it forces the target audience to seek out information - much like a scavenger hunt. Form what I've read here, much of the online stuff didn't have much to do with the actual film. <br> <br> The slush website is pretty funny, but obvously doesn't have much to do with Clovey. It seems to me that J.J. Abrams likes to connect his projects in a bigger picture kind of way. Much like Stephen King has done throughout his carreer. <br> <br> The thing is - if you aren't interested, you don't have to follow that ad campaign at all. I didn't and I was pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed the movie. But if I had as much invested, maybe I would have a different view of what I saw. <br> <br> What other online things were put out there?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    A Different Take on an Old Story

    by Nesstar

    I absolutely loved this movie. The execution was brilliantly done. It *had* it's "Blair Witch" moments (especially at the end under the bridge). A few outspoken haters have make comments about the behavior of this creature as an aquatic creature. What in the movie indicates it's from the sea? Or what indicates that it's from *our* sea? That's part of the suspense and mystery. Why do the characters always run into the monster? Someone else already handled that one. Because they were heading right into where the action because Robby had a bonner for Bethy. Why did the creature seam to stay within the same area? A number of reasons come to mind. He was eating people, and NYC is full of yummy bi-pedal creatures. NYC was the first city it reached. Plus, the military (Go Marines! OooRah!) would have tried to keep it from getting away and causing more damage elsewhere (containment). At the end I don't think it's Rob who says "What Now?". I think it's comming over the radio on the downed helecopter nearby. As in project "Hammer Down" has just failed... "What Now?". Sure it's not epic. Not the greatest story ever told. But it's damn good! More original that any of the other formulaeic cookie cutter remake becasue Hollywood doesn't have the balls to be original movies that are out there today.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:34 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield + Not Enjoying It = Retarded Movie Watcher

    by Evil Lincoln

    I'm sorry for not loving the hell out of this movie like I really wanted to. I wonder if there is some kind of self-help group for people like me who just were not scared watching this masterpiece. I didn't even mind the "shaky-cam" or the ending (which I thought was perfect for the style the movie was shot in) but it still seems that I need to come to grips that I'm just not as sophisticated as some of the movie watchers on this site. I'm so retarded...don't mind me.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:36 p.m. CST

    "Now What", not "What Now?"

    by Nesstar

    Sorry goofed that part. But you get the meaning...

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Ebonic_Plague

    by LedgerIsJoker

    That was good shit. I was cracking up at the steady cam bit lol.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:43 p.m. CST

    I ain't got time to space

    by ebonic_plague

    Thanks, but nobody in their right mind is gonna read all that anyway. Shit, nobody in their right mind would write that. I obviously need better hobbies.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Evil Lincoln

    by cromwell1666

    I think the issue is that people hate it BECAUSE there weren't enough "payoffs." They hated it because they didn't have complete understanding when they left the theater. People want what they have been conditoned to expect and can't take any divergance. HOWEVER, you have every right NOT to like this film and legitamtely so. If someone said "I think the camera work diminished it" or "I think the dialogue didn't fit the situations" those are legitimate opinions and I think are bebnficial for everyoneto discuss. When people cal it stupid because it wasn't perfectly wrapped and layered in a way that told them the answer to every question, I feel their point of view is a result of cultural pre-conditioning and therefore is in league with those who complianed about every new creative movement in the history of mankind.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    Ghost of Nixon

    by Evil Lincoln

    Nice to meet you! Rob and Ron will be here shortly.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    I was crazy enough to read it

    by LedgerIsJoker

    It would definitely be the definitive version of the film for many idiots from this site. Was worth the read despite the lack of spacing. Funny shit.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague:You got some DTV gold running...

    by travis-dane

    through your veins!You should write some for our AICN-DTV Universe!And your "remake"is right on the money.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    As For "Over Hyped"

    by Rando Calrisian

    How was this film hyped more than any other release? It seems to me the online community hyped this film themselves. <br> <br> I didn't notice any "more" previews for this film than any other major release, in fact - it seemed like there wan't really that much traditional marketing for Cloverfield. We saw the trailer, and then there wasn't really much more information shown since then. I mean, how many times did you see the preview for Fred Clause last year? <br> <br> The fact that so many of us spend too much time on the Internet and on sites like AICN means people out hyped themselves on this film. It has always been my personal experience when you read too much about a movie, and have your expectations too high, it almost never fails to disapoint. <br> <br> I actually think the marketing for this movie was pretty extraordinary given the fact that on the day the movie was released, no one know what the fucking monster looked like. Most Hollywood marketing campaigns would have flooded the internet with "leaked" pics of Clovey.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    "Yew....yew came back for me!"....The whole theater laughed.

    by GibsonUSA

    She was just laying there so pretty with a stick through her shoulder...."Of course...of course I came back for you!".....<BR> For all those trying to put down the intelligence of the people who hated it, have you considered maybe its the other way around? This is a January movie bottom line. By the time the big summer movies are here this move is completely forgotten.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:52 p.m. CST

    The Mist and Cloverfield

    by Series7

    They should have released the Mist after Cloverfield, and it could have been a sequel, instead of the two movies being very similar. Both monster movies who keep the monster hidden and spend time with the people and have similar endings. Except Cloverfield had a couple of endings. Both good movies, I bet the makers of the mist are kicking themselves for not trying to promote the movie correctly at all.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:55 p.m. CST

    Cromwell1666

    by Evil Lincoln

    What's really weird is that I really had no problem with not knowing where the creature came from or how the movie was shot. For some reason I just didn't really care about the characters and the monster (or lack there of) never really pushed me back into my seat or had me saying "Oh Shit!!!" to myself when he did show up. I'm still trying to get a handle on why I didn't enjoy this film and I was hoping that Moriarty would post his review so maybe I could find some insight into it. <p> One thing we can both totally agree on is that every movie watcher has their own tastes and if they enjoy/dislike a movie that is up to them. I won't be buying Cloverfield on DVD when it comes out but I'm sure lots of people will and that's totally ok.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 4:59 p.m. CST

    the thing about this film for me...

    by rikazodrac

    is that this is something that ive always wondered when watching any,for lack of a better term,doomsday film, like dawn of the dead,independence day etc..like what would i do if something like this would happen in the real world,what would i do,who would i risk my life,being a father theres only one choice for me,regardless of the situation to go back and save.its not some splashy "i'm the hero who has to save the day" type of monster,something that i think the bearded one had with war of the worlds but wasnt executed too well.that still comes across as a dad trying to get his kids back to their mom so its not his problem anymore,but that my opinion.this one paints a more intimate picture of people in this situation.thats what did it for me.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    i finally saw "the mist" and...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i loved it - the movie and its scares and suspense worked for me for one simple reason - the characters - i cared - well - 2 reasons - the acting as well - i liked the characters i was supposed to and hated the ones i was supposed to - the monsters were cool too - not groundbreaking, but very cool and threatening - for a monster-movie it delivered more than expected - i lived in nyc for 12 years and not every new yorker is a rich 20-something good looking hipster that lives in soho and gets vice president jobs in japan - when i did live there those were the types i saw as perfect food for giant monsters

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    Moriarty's Review

    by Evil Lincoln

    Maybe he's waiting for JJ's check to clear the bank before he posts it. LOL<p> Actually, I'm very interested in seeing what Drew has to say about this movie. He's the only movie reviewer on this site who seems to have a "grown up" opinion about films. I love the work Harry ("King of The Nerds" he was called by a recent news article about Cloverfield on the net) puts into his site but his reviews seem like they were written by a rabid fifteen year old fanboy. I have much respect for Drew and I hope he gets his review (positive or negative) up so he can throw in his two cents on the subject.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    KinjoAlcoholicNinja

    by toxic182

    I see where you're coming from but under the movie circumstances, one of the other issues i had was the whole beth apartment scene. This is not meant to be a happy film, the events that transpired in the apartment were way to unbelieveable. The fact of the matter is, up until that point the movie was not about human survival, this thing killed everything in the end, Beth should have never opened her eyes, and even if she did after what they did to save her, shed be dead. I may be cynical about the I love you's, but they shouldnt have been at that poing together. Thats all I'm saying

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Blair ZILLA!

    by skywalkerfamily

    Runs

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    MORIARTY WHERES YOUR REVIEW???

    by boogaooga

    I'm guessing its less than positive so you'll no doubt wait til after Saturday to post it as only hype reviews are allowed on this site before movies open now. Also this movie is mega short IMDB lists the runtime as 90 minutes which is horse shit. I walked into a 3 pm showing at 3:10 caught a couple of minutes of previews and the movie started at maybe 3:12. I stayed for the credits til after all the cast had been shown and got up and walked out checked my watch and it was 4:30 on the dot. I'd say this movie is at most 75 minutes long

  • I just visited 1-18-08.c om <P>As a cryptozoologist who's quite used to looking at photographs of strange carcasses that happen to wash up on beaches, I can 100% assure you that those are sperm whales, which are famous for eating giant squids, which, until Cloverfield, had been the largest of all officially recognized mysterious forms of sea life. Hence, the people behind the site are trying to tell you (whom they had expected to be familiar with everything that I just told you) that the sea beastie that eats kraken for dinner just got eaten by something even bigger.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    OY! THOSE AREN'T PHOTOS OF THE MONSTER!!!

    by jdl82

    Do a google image search for beaced sperm whale and you'll get this <p>ht tp://images.google.c om/images?hl=en&q=beached+sperm+whale&gbv=2 (remove the spaces)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    OY! THOSE AREN'T PHOTOS OF THE MONSTER!!!

    by jdl82

    Do a google image search for beaced sperm whale and you'll get this <p>ht tp://images.google.c om/images?hl=en&q=beached+sperm+whale&gbv=2 (remove the spaces)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    OY! THOSE AREN'T PHOTOS OF THE MONSTER!!!

    by jdl82

    Do a google image search for beaced sperm whale and you'll get this <p>ht tp://images.google.c om/images?hl=en&q=beached+sperm+whale&gbv=2 (remove the spaces)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:38 p.m. CST

    OY! THOSE AREN'T PHOTOS OF THE MONSTER!!!

    by jdl82

    Do a google image search for beaced sperm whale and you'll get this <p>ht tp://images.google.c om/images?hl=en&q=beached+sperm+whale&gbv=2 (remove the spaces)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:39 p.m. CST

    *beached

    by jdl82

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:41 p.m. CST

    i want my ninety minutes back

    by BMacSmith

    from reading Ebonic_Plague's rant! just kidding, i didnt read that shit. <p> anyway, i dont give a flying fuck where the monster came from or why its invincible or any of these unanswered questions. In fact, I dont really care about that shit monster at all. thats the problem. it sucked. this was almost (ALMOST) the american Godzilla + plus shaky cam. It had the same problem: i never got to see it blow shit up real good (though it was better in that the monster did indeed destroy shit, i just didnt really get to see it thanks to Hud the retarded cameraman! All I got to see was a bunch of bad actors run around. Imagine how awesome this movie would be if it were filmed traditionally.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST

    It's Chewbacca's cousin!

    by skywalkerfamily

    Seriously. He wanted to be a part of Life Day, but Chewie didn't let him.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    AND THE WHALE IN THE FOREGROUND IS...

    by jdl82

    ... a blue whale, the largest creature known to modern science. How do I know that it's a blue whale? Because next to its lascerated side is a seagull, which shows how large it is. Go here for photos of beached blue whales (they're enormous!) <p>htt p://images.google.c om/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&q=beached+blue+whale

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Intelligent filmgoers hate cloverwank

    by quantize

    you fucktards can make ALL the excuses you want. That was as dumb as shit and im hearing about lots of audiences coming out pissed off, and it aint the shakey cam (i had no problem with it). It fails its own basic premise. A documentary style monster movie. OK! so why do we get all this Hollywood contrivance with it? I still haven't read a single intelligent post that addresses the Manhattan style holes in its own logic. Fuck mysteries, i didnt give a shit WHERE the monster came from or any of that crap. I was reacting to a complete lack of suspense (ok except for a min in the tunnel) and a tedious bunch of dreary casting central dropkicks.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:51 p.m. CST

    watch this mutherfucker sink without a trace next week

    by quantize

    ...

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:53 p.m. CST

    whilst JJ and his band of phony magicians...

    by quantize

    ..laugh on their way to the bank. I had no opinion on this guy till i saw this film. I was not a Lost fan but i didnt care enough to hate him. He's about to sink right up the same sphincter Whedon and Shaymalan went..too fucking clever by half and zero fucking substance. Watch him fuck Star Trek up royally.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:55 p.m. CST

    re: quantize

    by jdl82

    I'm looking at your MySpace page right now. Are you the Asian/Filipino on the left or the gangsta on the right?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 5:57 p.m. CST

    cont.

    by jdl82

    I'm guessing the former since you expressed any form of regard for Star Trek.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST

    has anyone translated....

    by rikazodrac

    what it says in japanese on the back of that one photo on the 1-18-08 website?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:14 p.m. CST

    I have in my hands an innocent little bunny

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    And if some hater calls it Cloverdud or Cloverwank again instead of Cloverfeeble, I am going to kill it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:18 p.m. CST

    Just so you know...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...if anyone kills a bunny or another cute imaginary animal, I'm going to post another wall of impenetrable text.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:19 p.m. CST

    Some Clarification on scene's in the movie...

    by Flaxer

    The Japanese oil company TAGRUATO drops a satellite (Chimpanz III) into the ocean as part of viral marketing (shown at the end of the movie when Rob and Beth were on the ferris wheel). TAGRUATO works with SLUSHO (a slush company), as the main ingredient for SLUSHO is found at the satellite dropzone (deep ocean). While searching for satellite and ingredients, they woke Cloverfield (the monster). The main ingredient of Slusho apparently turns a tiny fish into a HUGE whale, which explains the size of Cloverfield. Rob apparently was going to be the Vice President of TAGRUATO in Japan.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:20 p.m. CST

    For every wall of impenetrable text posted

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    The bunny loses a toe.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Clovermode,Cloverseven,Cloverspace...

    by travis-dane

    Sorry:-)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:23 p.m. CST

    Cholera's Ghost:dont be a BEN!

    by travis-dane

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Well, at that point, the bunny would be dead...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...so amputate away! Oh, and SLUSHO was a slush company? Why didn't I think of that?! Revised wall-o-text, here I come!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:28 p.m. CST

    cloverfield sucked

    by believe_it

    it was terrible. not because of shaky cam. not because of bad acting. not because of cgi. just bad storytelling. bad writing. bad bad robot.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:34 p.m. CST

    FUCK THAT BUNNY! Teh revising:

    by ebonic_plague

    I have been reading some of the complaints about this movie, and I think I have come up with a version of Cloverfield they could enjoy, possibly in 10 years when it is remade. Naturally, it would have to be directed by a japanese or korean director that is virturally unknown among mainstream american audiences. <p> The movie would start off with a camera panning around a dingy little shithole of an apartment, cluttered with dirty dishes, grubby laundry, and countless 80's action figures in original packaging that line every shelf. The cameraman sneaks into an adjoining room, where a fat guy in a stained wifebeater is passed out on a bed, dog eared copies of High Society strewn all over his G1 Transformers collectible bedspread as he snores. The cameraman sneaks closer, and giggling, he sticks his ass up to the snoring guy's face and blasts him awake with a resonant fart. They scuffle around for a second then the cameraman says, "Get ready, you fat piece of shit, I'm not going to miss out on my copy of Halo 3 on account of your lazy ass! Now make sure you have your mom's credit card, I'll bring the food and the chairs, we'll get a good spot in the line. Don't forget the Magic cards, dick!" <p> Then there's a bunch of jump cuts as they take the train across town to the Best Buy, mostly snippets of dialogue of them complaining about popular movies and games. <p> Then it cuts to a different scene a few weeks later, a bunch of baggy clothed nerds sitting around a basement, all focused intently on a TV screen showing some FPS multiplayer game, as death metal plays softly in the background. There is little conversation as they play, everyone is cheering on the main nerd (Rob) to unlock some ridiculously hard achievement. Suddenly, there's a terrible roar and a loud explosion, and everyone reacts in horror as the lights flicker, but then give audible sighs of relief to see that the power has not gone out and the X-Box didn't reset itself. The cameraman, Duh, asks "What was that?" but nobody seems concerned, still focused on the TV. "Probably just another garbage truck hit the building. Just keep filming, he's about to do it." Then the power goes out for real, and everyone starts swearing angrily, but nobody gets off the couch. <p> Rob and Duh and a few others try to go find the superintendent, but when they get to the bottom floor, they find everyone in the streets gathered around the statue of liberty's severed head. Duh pans the camera around, and while everyone else's back is conveniently turned, he catches a full body shot of a giant monster standing next to the Empire State building to show it's exact scale, and he yells for everyone to look, but they turn around too late and miss it. <p> Everyone starts arguing about the situation, some people saying it can't possibly be the real statue of liberty because that could never happen. Duh mentions that he got the monster on tape, and it cuts back to the nerds on a train again for a second, then when it cuts back everyone is arguing. Duh swears it's clearly a giant lion, but others seem to think it's Cthulhu. One guy keeps screaming about Voltron coming to save us. <p> As everyone speculates about the monster and where it's headed, the camera pans over to Rob, who has decided he's going back to his mom's apartment. Duh assumes he's going to save his mom, but it becomes clear he's going to rescue his priceless DVD collection and his X-Box with all his saved information on it. But Duh is insistant on not leaving the scene until he can ensure that the video footage he's shooting will be easily watchable, and demands that they look for a steadicam. Rob, however, is a closet Dawson's Creek fan and, remembering an episode, he pulls a disabled guy out of his wheelchair and proceeds to push Duh around in it, providing a smooth, clear shot of their journey through the streets. <p> They make their way through the city, and Rob gets a call on his cell phone from his crying mother, who is paralyzed from fear and trying to fend off alien lion cubs that are trying to break down her door. "Mom, I don't have time for your bullshit right now, just tell me one thing, is everything in my room still OK?" Then the monster shows up again and eats some more people, and our protagonists run away, angrily bickering about the proper classification of the monster and where it originates from. <p> They escape to the subway, and attempt to travel through the tunnels to reach Rob's mom's apartment, but they are attacked by little tentacle faced lion cubs, who bite one of Rob's friends making him break down crying like a little bitch. Then as they exit the tunnels, they are taken into custody by the military, who bring them to a triage center. Rob takes one of the commanding officers aside and demands to know what is going on, and the officer lights a cigarette and launches into a detailed flashback exposition of the previous 3 years of outer space research and everything that has led to the monster showing up and destroying the city. Then he stubs out his cigarette and fixes his steely eyes on each one of them. "Even though we know exactly what it is and where it came from, it's still winning. OK, WE'RE MOVING OUT! Lock and load, gentlemen, tag em and bag em, we need to hit it hard and fast, I want short controlled bursts! Perhaps today is a good day to die!" <p> So Rob and his buddies grab Duh in his wheelchair and roll out towards Rob's mom's apartment. They arrive to find it all smashed up, but Rob lives on the ground floor so they just break a window and go inside, where they find Rob's mom gruesomely torn apart on the floor, but miraculously the DVD collection and X-box have survived intact. Rob cries, however, to see his mint-in-box Star Trek figures have been destroyed, but his friends (just Duh and some random fat girl, at this point) group hug him until he calls them queers, and then it's kinda awkward for a second. <p> So they load up and head back to the makeshift military camp, only to find it smashed in the center of a giant lion-esque footprint. But they find a working walkie-talkie on the ground and manage to hear that there is a helicopter waiting down the street to evacuate survivors. They show up to see the monster fighting the military, and the scene lasts for a good 40 minutes, with clear in-focus shots of the monster being attacked by every manner of modern military hardware. <p> Then they get on a helicopter that transports them approximately 50 feet before it crashes. Rob and the fat girl scramble from the wreckage as the monster looms into view, but Duh refuses to comprimise the integrity of his footage by moving the camera around in a jerky attempt to escape, and is gobbled up and chewed thoroughly. The camera then falls to the ground and is picked up by Rob (who is still sifting through the wreckage for his DVD's.) <p> The crackling radio in the crashed helicopter alerts them to the fact that Voltron has been called in, and will be leveling the city within minutes in an attempt to stop the monster. Rob and the fat girl escape to another tunnel, where Rob gets all emotional, reading the summaries of his favorite movies from the DVD covers to the barely conscious fat girl. He starts sobbing when he realizes that the situation he is in now is just a badly ripped-off version of the Blair Witch project, a movie he hated in theaters for "pandering" to the mainstream. Then he hears the familiar approach of Voltron about to impact the city, and turns to his fat female companion as the tunnel begins to shake apart. "LOOK AT ME! I'VE NEVER BEEN WITH A GIRL BEFORE! CAN I TOUCH YOUR BOOBS? I SAID, CAN I TOU--" <p> And then it cuts to black for a second, and then back to the two nerds on the train, victoriously holding their copies of Halo 3. "Today was better than chocolate covered pussy juice!" And off in the distance, you hear a lion roar.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:47 p.m. CST

    How many Razzies/Oscars will CLOVENHUFF win??

    by HExTeXly

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:51 p.m. CST

    RE:"I want short controlled bursts"you stole a...

    by travis-dane

    line from ALIENS!:-)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    This movie sucked balls.

    by Mike_D

    Seriously, at least "Blair Witch Project" (a movie which I also loath) had people that never acted on film before and made it more realistic.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:52 p.m. CST

    Muchas Gracias, mode...

    by ebonic_plague

    ...and travis and Ledger. While I was watching the movie last night I was secretly hoping that someone would re-make it with puppets and a Man-in-suit, so I gladly volunteer my "treatment" for anyone who wants to use it. I would, but I have less important things to do, as is probably evident by now.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Remake it with LEGO!

    by travis-dane

    I have to see this movie,it opens in February over here.The dudes who dont like it write so funny posts,it has to be good!I love it how people lose it over some movie.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST

    RE:"txt spk",hehe right!

    by travis-dane

    travis welcomes Orcus to our timeline.What do you think of Cloverfield?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 7:32 p.m. CST

    Orcus:nice review...

    by travis-dane

    straight forward to the point!Good work.Imagine Harry would do that!All the Harry haters would die right away!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 7:37 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield

    by Stevie Grant

    It's not the second coming. Anyone who thought Juno was over-hyped ... go watch Cloverfield. It's a solid film and well worth the ten bucks. It's just not the life-changing experience this site claims it to be.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 7:39 p.m. CST

    With all this monster origin talk...

    by DocMHumphrey

    Did anyone else see the asteroid hit the water at the end of the tape? It's right next to the yacht.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 7:42 p.m. CST

    Correction

    by Stevie Grant

    It's a solid film given reasonable expectations.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 7:50 p.m. CST

    One thing about injuries in movies pisses me off

    by DocMHumphrey

    Suspension of disbelief: It refers to the willingness of a person to accept as true the premises of a work of fiction, even if they are fantastic or impossible. <br> <br> Monster movie aside, why in most films, do directors choose to place mortal injuries (ala Beth's iron rod through the left side of her chest) in the area of the heart and most major arteries. This really pisses me off.<br> <br> Not only does a chest wound render said person useless to move, it would also cause pnuemothorax (which is basically a collapsed lung), which causes major breathing difficulties.<bR><Br> Next, let's pull out said victim's impalement. Not only would this cause even more major damage, but it will more than likely kill the person.<br><BR>NOTE TO EVERYONE HERE FOR SAFETY: IF IMPALED BY AN OBJECT, DO NOT PULL IT OUT FOR CAUSE OF FURTHER INJURY SUCH AS NERVE DAMAGE or THE FACT THE HAVING SOMETHING "PLUG UP THE HOLE" IS ALWAYS A PLUS.<bR><BR>NOTE TO DIRECTORS AND SCREEN-WRITERS: FUCKING THINK.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 7:53 p.m. CST

    I've finally placed the monster...

    by peppersgc

    It was very familiar to me, but I couldn't place it until I watched Return of the Jedi today. Anyone else think it looks a lot like the Rancor?

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Looks more like:

    by DocMHumphrey

    Landstriders from Dark Crystal

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:02 p.m. CST

    DocMHumphrey

    by Stevie Grant

    I agree. I would love to see another Aliens 2. A monster/thriller movie where its somewhat realistic and characters can't make obviously stupid decisions and yet not suffer the consequences; but, rather, make good decisions and still suffer the consequences. I'm all for suspension of belief (such as a giant eel-bat bastard monstrosity tearing NY apart). It would be nice to see a film where the characters make good decisions, yet the odds are so much stacked against them that they don't really have a chance ... but still put up one hell of a fight.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:04 p.m. CST

    Good one Doc

    by peppersgc

    The origin of the creature is: A landstrider and a Rancor mated and the offspring fell to earth in an asteroid.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:05 p.m. CST

    RE:"suspension of belief ",watch STORY OF RICKY..

    by travis-dane

    to find out what "suspension of belief" really means!There are clips on youTube if you dont own it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:17 p.m. CST

    of course! rancor

    by BMacSmith

    i was thinking cave troll but that works

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST

    It was great

    by Kaitain

    Sure, it didn't always stay within the bounds of plausibility. So what? Great fun, very entertaining.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:30 p.m. CST

    The characters didn't make good decisions in Aliens.

    by FluffyUnbound

    The squad gets ripped apart in Aliens because they don't GET THE FUCK OUT as soon as they realize they can't use their real weapons. The whole reason you're bad ass Space Marines is because you're, you know, ARMED, guys. If you can't fire your weapons, SPLIT AND RE-EVALUATE. The one big flaw in Aliens is the stupid way the squad gets decimated early. Not as stupid as what happens to the squad in Resident Evil, but a flaw nonetheless.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:37 p.m. CST

    For those interested...

    by Rando Calrisian

    For those that didn't follow the Viral Marketing campaign for Cloverfield before the movie came out, you can check out this link to see some of the stuff that is out there. There is some pretty interesting stuff, and some possible clues to what it's all about. <br> <br> http://www.cloverfieldcl ues.blogspot .com/ <br> <br> Remove the spaces...

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:38 p.m. CST

    Snarky, you're absolutely right!

    by ebonic_plague

    That scene would be the whole keystone of the movie! I must be slipping.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:43 p.m. CST

    It was ok...

    by andyny29

    the scene in the tunnel with the rats running is right out of 28 days later, though.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:43 p.m. CST

    FluffyUnbound:It is not the squads fault...

    by travis-dane

    but Lt.Gorman`s.He is the one who lets them go on.And since they are "Marines",they follow orders(as stupid as the orders may be).

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:45 p.m. CST

    I forgot...

    by andyny29

    if ever a movie begs for a sequel this is it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 8:58 p.m. CST

    Disbelief

    by DocMHumphrey

    Yes, they went to all these length to set up a fantastic parallel world where this scenario can happen. The connection is what makes it scary. Then to throw something as lame as a character who is critically injuried and recovers in less than two seconds. That weighs on your ability to cast aside disbelief.<br><br>And for the squad in Aliens, yeah, the responsibilies reside on the C.O. of the unit, not the Marines themselves.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:09 p.m. CST

    "Guys, this giant monster movie is unrealistic" retarded argumen

    by quantize

    'Wow, um, how do you point out supposed plotholes like the improper medical care of someone impaled by a metal rod in a movie about a giant monster ravaging Manhattan?' Ya just DONT GET it do ya, the movie is the very thing suggesting an air of authenticity, fuck the monster or whatever..anyone who walks in EXPECTS THAT..but we dont expect phony ass hokum acting and dialog, these arent little holes, theyre fucking cravass' in something poncing around in a 'documentary' style dress. wake the fuck up

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:10 p.m. CST

    By the way, I liked the film.

    by DocMHumphrey

    It was enjoyable and kept me captivated.<br><br>Having a giant monster in a film or any disbelieving plot point, doesn't give the filmmakers the right to <br>A. Be lazy<br>B. Take the audience for granted<bR><br>C. Stretch disbelief as far as it can<br><Br>There is a framework that makes up universes in a film. Star Wars for instance, audiences do not doubt that within the world of Star Wars lightsabers function the way they do. It is balanced upon a framework reality.<br><Br>In Cloverfield, which is supposed to be "actually found footage", the Monster should be the only thing to suspend.<Br><BR>Maybe I was generalizing, but look at Starship Troopers, Denise Richards's heart is pretty much skewered in half, but she still keeps on truckin'.<br><Br>What I'm saying is, if you're going to give peril to a character through injury, make it an injury that's not as close to instant death as possible. Maybe stab her in the opposite side of her chest/shoulder, you know, the one in much the heart is not present.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:34 p.m. CST

    SoylentMean

    by DocMHumphrey

    Don't draw illogical conclusions about if I like/dislike a film because I don't agree with directorial injury choices.<br><Br>I do enjoy Starship Troopers, but it's crap. Total crap. The novel Starship Troopers was very influencial to me, so maybe I am a little biased. Paul Verhoven was the worst possible choice for that film. With all the commerical/propaganda stunts he pulls in every film...it's not a style, it's a gimmick, a one-trick pony.<br><br>See, good sci-fi lies with how humanity deals with issues that in this era of technology or interaction with aliens/giant monsters. The science is not exactly showcased ala Star Trek.<br><Br>I really enjoy the new Galactica for this reason, science or pseudoscience drives the moral story-lines and character choices.<br><Br>The film Starship Troopers and the novel are as far from each other as possible. It is a paradigm of what sci-fi could be and how it exists.<br><br>Now would you rather have Band of Brothers style film, while fighting giant bugs and other alien races (Oh yes, in the novel the MI are fighting more than one), or the Paul Verhoven schlock fest with only one *decent* battle scene.<br><Br>Personally for me, I would rather see John Rico dealing with the hardships of military life and becoming an officer, than a love-sick fool getting matching prison tats with skulls.<br><br>Verhoven's version does score points just for having Michael Ironside in it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:39 p.m. CST

    I went to the 8pm show last night

    by Series7

    Full of high schoolers and underage college kids. And they booed at the end. I heard people talking about how they feel asleep. But I enjoyed it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:44 p.m. CST

    Similar responses at my theatre.

    by DocMHumphrey

    Tons of kids. Lots of cell phones recording the film. They all booed at the end. I've had several of my friends report booings of the film at seperate screenings. It's just not merited. From the start of the film you can assume the worst for the characters, for the fact that the footage was, "found".

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:45 p.m. CST

    [stands up, bloody knife in hand]

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    Are you happy now, ebonic??? Are you happy Travis??? LOOK AT WHAT YOU HAVE WROUGHT! IS THIS WHAT YOU WANTED!?!! [wipes bloodied fur on pants]<p>Yeah, Cloverfield was quite good. It was an alien shock trooper with nanoscale armor for those demanding answers, not that there needs to be that many.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:50 p.m. CST

    DocHumphrey Nailed it

    by bythehairofsanjaya

    Landstriders from Dark Crystal - my thoughts exactly! I was rushing home to post this but you beat me to it. Cross between the lanstrider and rancor is very accurate! BTW really like the movie. Aliens 1 and 2 are still better, but this was a good pop corn flick. I would not mind seeing a sequal with the more traditional military point of view.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:02 p.m. CST

    Plus we all know the creature was

    by DocMHumphrey

    Headed to Boston next...but it died from bacteria laden water that it accidentally drank in NYC. Special thanks to Tom Cruise for point out that its shields were down.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:11 p.m. CST

    The monster was headed for a Old Country Buffet

    by skywalkerfamily

    He heard about the chicken sandwiches.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:13 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield was a major disappointment

    by gaiking001

    I think Capone saw a different movie than I did. Cloverfield sucked. I am not a hater, I wanted to like it. I love giant monster movies. I do not get any of the reviews from this site about this movie. It was unwatchable,the shakey cam thing got real annoying after 10 minutes. According to the movie, no one in New York was over 27. The monster was in it for 3 minutes. The little monsters were lame and pointless. Everytime something interesting was going to happen the camera was dropped and you saw feet or a wall for 3 minutes..oh wait they were trying to make a moment of suspense...it did not work...Once you finally did see the monster it was dull and a major let down. "I am Legend" was a deeply flawed movie, but it was 1000 times better than Cloverfield. Cloversuck was like watching an Abercrombie and Fitch commercial with a bad script. The sub-plot love story/friendship thing was painfully unbelivable. Oh and the "lead" is like 24 and going to be a vice-president of a company in Japan...come on...please... how about the guy folding the sweaters at Banana Republic, that would be more believable. When the movie ended about six people clapped, everyone else looked around saying..that hell was that? IT SUCKED!!!!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:15 p.m. CST

    ebonic_plague

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    I actually quite enjoyed that. Your efforts have not gone unnoticed.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:21 p.m. CST

    The girl'

    by GibsonUSA

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:22 p.m. CST

    I'm sorry but...

    by Boober

    That monster design was so bad that "the payoff reveal" ruined it for me. Shame on you JJ. You could have come up with something that like more menacing than an afterthought of a tabletop battle between R2 and Chewbacca aboard the Millenium Falcon.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:27 p.m. CST

    Spike through the chest...

    by Zardoz

    Yeah, that bit was hard for me to swallow, too. She would've bled to death in real life, probably within minutes. In a real situation, they would cut the spike free from the cement and leave it in place in the body, and then take her to an ER, where it would be removed by surgeons. (Hell, I think I even saw that on ER, the TV show, years ago!) The spike is basically acting like a plug to stop the bleeding, so when you pull it out, it's like turning on a blood faucet. Still, I went with it. If I was in a situation like that, and you're pretty much fucked either way, I'd rather bleed out with my friends than get left for one of the tiny crabbies or die alone impaled on a spike. Also, and I'm not positive about this, but I don't think she was actually speared in the center of her chest, near her heart, but rather in the shoulder area. (Not that it would matter ultimately, but still, not quite as vulnerable an area as the middle of her chest.) Anyway, it's a movie. People are constantly abused physically WAY beyond the limits of a real human being. I mean, have you ever seen ANY action movies? Let it go, and move on...

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:34 p.m. CST

    The purpose/background of the monster

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    It's an alien biological warfare agent with nano-armor that is capable of deflecting conventional weapons, and oozing with little hunter killers that are also distributors of who-knows-what alien diseases. It was sent to New York to sow chaos and destruction in a major population center that's on the coast for easy access after dwelling in the safety of the sea so it could grow full size. It was a shock attack meant to, perhaps, test our defenses of high-value targets and soften us up for invasion. That is my hypothesis, gentleman.<p>Or, it could be a robot operated by teams of Lions.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:38 p.m. CST

    Soy

    by DocMHumphrey

    Starship Troopers is crap and there's is only one battle, Klandathu. The only thing that was decent about it was, at the time of its release, was the signature Verhoven gore.<br><br>If you want to count the little skirmishes, like the outpost slaughter and John Rico riding on the back of the bug, cool.<br>But by saying the book comparison is nothing? That's like making the Lord of the Rings without the battle for Helm's Deep and Fields of Fornost. Starship Troopers the novel had more battles and more cool weapons and materials than the film.<br><br>This is what I meant about gimmicky sci-fi, the movie went for stupid one-trick ponies. Ace's electric violin (Wow! We have those even today!) or the laser tattoo device. Why not have some serious sci-fi elements. The trooper's weapons and armor, explain more of why people couldn't vote if they weren't citizens. The premise was not about killing aliens, but what humanity reacted or gained/lost because of the science fiction situation.<br><br>Plus, the overuse of women and nakedness. It dumbs down the audience and pigeon holes us. I love sci-fi, comics, and the like, but I don't want every piece of sci-fi becoming a gratuitous slasher film. A staple of the slasher sub-genre is some bouncin' titties. Myself as a fan of sci-fi, I don't want that label.<br><br>See, the mystery of something like the Giger Alien is the important part. There are deeper questions there, than say Cloverfield. Are they a bio-weapon? What kind of planetary environment would this thing would have developed in? Who or what are the Space Jockeys? How intelligent are the aliens? Those are the questions that have lingered for me.<bR><br>At this time in film making, we constantly get the Starship Troopers treatment on film. We get the killings and the T&A, but we don't get the meat and potatoes. After fucking four Alien films and two AVP films, none of these questions have been addressed or answered. But we have had a nice shot of that chick's ass from AVP and a lot of people shooting and yelling "Fuck!" a lot.<br><br>Hense, the Starship Troopers novel comparison means EVERYTHING.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:45 p.m. CST

    And one more thing...

    by Boober

    Why are writer/directors forgoing their duty and acting more like CEOs? I mean, I know the new trend is to take all five courses in a meal and make some mediocre cross-marketing soup to maximize opening weekend $$$ (It's a marginal 9.11 nostalgic disaster flick, NO it's a marginal love story, NO it's a marginal monster movie, NO it's an M NIGHT BLAIR-CAM marginal GIMMICK). Sorry folks, this movie was all sound and fury signifying nothing. When will people realize that a five-spice marginal soup is still only MARGINALLY palatable. I know this is obviously the evolution of "A new twist on an old theme" but have we really gotten to the point where mediocrity is celebrated because we've starved for so long? I'm scared to find out how they wrap up LOST after seeing this. PS. Godzilla would pick pieces of this thing out of his stool and Jaws had more scary parts in it in a 60 second span than this whole movie. So please, those, including Harry who praise this with such conviction, please temper yourselves. I went in thinking HOME RUN based on your reviews. You guys must be starving or I'm just an idiot like gaiking001 because I don't get it. I should have seen this coming, really. Someone compared the HOST to JAWS and I LAUGHED AND LAUGHED at how inferior to jaws it was.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:47 p.m. CST

    Well...

    by bryan vancampen

    "Cloverfield" was also the codename for Vincent Gallo's Brown Bunny. God Bless Wikipedia. :)

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:52 p.m. CST

    by the way, I wasn't being a Ben, travis-d

    by 'Cholera's Ghost

    I was bluffing. You were joking and ebonic was being entertaining, so extreme measures were not called for. The rabbit was a stuffed Beanie Baby(TM). That blood was ketchup (Heinz(TM)). Everybody can now relax.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 10:56 p.m. CST

    Great flick! I loved it! That's my opinion.

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion. <p> As I read this TB and Harry's TB, I wonder about the movie fans out there. There's alot of cynicism. It seems like people DARE movies to entertain them! <p> I don't know, I guess it feels like some people can't enjoy a movie unless they can shred it to pieces. "Look! It's not perfect! The big studio screwed up! Ha! Haa!" <p> I started to rant about this but I cut it back to here. Fuck it. Go on, shred away. Have your fun in your joyless little lives!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11 p.m. CST

    So, I hate to be the one to ask...

    by Murraypalooza

    I really dug the movie. After the initial 15 minutes of HUDvisionpartytime I was just blown away by the scope and intensity of the film. But, while I was driving home a few questions started to pop into my head as I thought about the film more and more: (and I realize some of these fall into the 'suspension of disbelief' arena)<br /><br /> 1.) So the monster decapitates Lady Liberty, and then walks ashore with her noggin. While atop the roof, everyone is looking at downtown Manhattan when SOMETHING explodes. So...WHAT EXPLODES? The monster had no powers...<br /><br /> 2) Two minutes later, they are all out in the street when the Liberty Noggin comes rolling down, and then our big buddy walks past the building and topples it. So there are either two monsters, or it managed to gently navigate the city in around two minutes.<br /><br /> 3.) Throwing the Statue of Liberty seemed to work. Why not rip buildings and throw huge chunks of them? In the viral campaign, there was that video of the Oil Rig being kinda 'spat' back out. That would've been a badass scene.<br /><br /> 4.) WHERE THERE TWO MONSTERS? :)<br /><br /> 5.) Just an observation to the people who wondered why it stayed on Manhattan, perhaps because that is the only area where it can honestly HIDE? Sure, the rivers are right there, but it's not like they're deep.<br /><br /> 6.) It was created by NAZI WIZARDRY!<br /><br /> Like I said, I really really loved the film. But that whole explosion sequence at the start got me wondering if the monster perhaps had some sort of flame breathing ability and the director cut it out afterwards because then it would be 'TOO GODZILLA' (oh noes!). After all, once the Liberty Noggin rolled down and the building collapsed, once everyone was back outside a lot of the buildings had fire damage and what not. So...it's a possibility. Either way, I'm going to go see it again in the theater and then purchase it on DVD.<br /><br />In Abrams I trust.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:04 p.m. CST

    Shouldn't have turned the key on the island..

    by Boober

    in LOST. Because it released/signaled the Cloverfield monster to wake up and well, Dharma project don't work if you can't cage a creation like that...

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:24 p.m. CST

    That reminds me...

    by L.H.Puttgrass

    When I saw this last night. At the very begining, as all the video numbers and symbols were going by in the "Property of the U.S. Government" credit sequence, in the lower right side for a second there was a Dharma Initiative symbol! I think someone above caught that also. Weird.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:42 p.m. CST

    I'm saying Titty so you'll read my post. Titty.

    by JohnnyThanatos

    The one thing I'm picking up from this - people either *really* like it or *really* hate it. The justifications for hating it range from it being unrealistic (Yes, in real life people always act with total logic when giant monsters attack) to characters being people you don't give a shit about (because in the *real* New York there aren't any of these fictional "superficial yuppies") to Beth's surviving an impalement (I'm a trauma medical illustrator, and I've had conversations with people who were *waiting* to be treated for impalement wounds, the body is an amazing thing, ain't it?). Yeah, there was some stupid shit going on in places, but I didn't let it ruin the ride for me. Hell, I loved it, and my buddy hated it, and coming out of the theater there was little in the way of a median opinion. Some people allowed themselves to enjoy the ride, and others felt cheated. I personally think most people who hated it wanted to see more crystal clear "money shots" for visual masturbation's sake. I personally think the film did a great job of showing "just enough" to keep you going. I don't expect perfection in every film. Around here anything that isn't a verbatim copy of the imaginary "If it was Me Making This" shooting script TBers had been role-playing in their heads for the months leading up to it gets eviscerated. It wasn't perfect, it definitely had flaws and some of them are the ones that the haters are pointing out - they just didn't utterly RUIN the movie for me like they did for you guys. I admit I could forgive a lot of things that Rob and Hud did - but when he had a crowbar and used it to open the water machine - I was hoping for a little Gordon Freeman action. That would have made sense. I carry a hatchet from my office to my car, but my office is in downtown Las Vegas and in that neighborhood a hatchet is quite…sensible. Complaints about “no payoff” I have been reading... I think the director made a mistake by stopping for the "okay, so TBers don't bitch that I didn't show them the fucking maquette and screen test renders before the movie opened" shot where Hud just stands there and just films the damned thing, for several seconds, in clear daylight, in a close shot. That was the one time I went "RUN you dumb fuck!" That was the one time the movie seemed gratuituous to me, because we shouldn’t NEED to See Everything and Know Everything, and the shot looked to me like it was just there for the sake of getting a good look at the creature even though I thought we had a few good looks at it already - or enough if it to want more. Once I got to see it clearly and not from the shaky cam, I didn't *need* to see more and it stopped being the “nightmare that you didn’t understand” to “oh, okay that’s what it looks like” monster… But that’s just one asshole’s opinion. I enjoyed it, I'm glad I saw it, and I'm not self delusional enough to think for a second that I'd have been able to make a better movie.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:53 p.m. CST

    The advertising never said that the movie was about a monster

    by jdl82

    I caught the first midnight showing. Most of the audience was comprised of teens and college kids. At the end, there were immature gasps of disappointment and betrayal. From what I've been reading here on this Talkback, people under the age of 25 seem to have difficulty appreciating what I and many of you here realized was the genius of the film. Let's face it: although presumed by many who haven't yet seen it to be a typical "monster movie,", at its core Cloverfield is an emotional, addrenaline-pumping thrill ride that focuses not on the beastie itself, but on the drunk young lovers and co-eds caught in its merciless wake.<p> Many of those who have been criticizing the film on this board for these very aspects are about as young as those with whom I watched it. I found that much out by adding their Talkback names to the end of the URL myspace.co m/Talkbacknamegoeshere<p> That they incorrectly inferred from the viral marketing that the focus of the film was a monster have none but themselves to blame; in the viral marketing, the people and the collective chaos are the aspects of Cloverfield that are constantly emphasized, not the monster. <p>My prediction is that this amazing, amazing movie will be unfairly doomed because of misdirected marketing. Cloverfield is an intense, action-packed drama, not a monster movie.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:55 p.m. CST

    This movie was awesome and...

    by Wolfman Nards

    Everyone should see it. I dón't know how they took the dumbest plot ever and made it work the way they did. A+ in my opinion. Totally lived BEYOND the hype for me and they actually made the movie scary. Go figure!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Titties and beer

    by JeffManSixtyFo

    Loved the movie but yeah I got a headache from the camera.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 12:05 a.m. CST

    Damn, should have remembered the Beer

    by JohnnyThanatos

    JeffMan, you pwned my post title. pwned. Next time I'll remember, it's titties AND beer.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 12:18 a.m. CST

    CLOVERFIELD MONSTER FOOTAGE ONLINE!!!!

    by LittleDudes

    Scroll down to the bottom of this page to see it! http://tinyurl.com/ytg8t7

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 12:21 a.m. CST

    Had me up until the subway tunnel

    by Dreamfasting

    ... but there was something about the mixture of shakeycam and splattering blood that made my stomach churn and broke my emotional involvement ... I just sort of stopped watching. I don't think I was the only one, because there was a stream of people filing out of the theater at the same time.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 12:48 a.m. CST

    Vern: Well...

    by HappyHamster

    Vern comments on my post:<p> "I don't know man, to me it seems like some of you guys are coming up with some pretty poetical interpretations of these things. I mean, I saw the trailer - the Statue of Liberty head rolls down the street and then there's a roar. I saw the poster - the Statue of Liberty with its head ripped off and claw marks on it. I don't really know how else to interpret that but "giant monster" and I don't know what it was you were hoping for when you said it might be "something else." "<p> ------------<p> Agreed, somewhat. I certainly didn't dismiss the idea that it was a giant Godzilla-like monster. But I couldn't dismiss some sort of alien invasion either. Hell, I wasn't sure what to think. We got a lot of disjointed images leading up to the film. Yes as you said, you see the statue of liberty head in the streets. But we also get a scene with some weird stuff going on behind a medical tent with strange looking shadows and strange sounds. We get weird disjointed dialog. You just didn't *really* know.<p> In the end itn turns out it's just a Godzilla variation. Again, not BAD per se, but this certainly doesn't live up to the mystery surrounding it. The mystery leading up to the movie was the best thing about it IMO.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 12:51 a.m. CST

    The REAL Cloverfield Monster

    by davy jones owns

    possibly J.J.'s inspiration. <br>The Bloop<br> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloop

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 12:52 a.m. CST

    THE ABOVE POST IS NOT ABOUT A PICTURE OF THE MONSTER!

    by davy jones owns

    go to the website and read and listen. pretty interesting stuff

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 12:57 a.m. CST

    Glad To See That Not Everyone Is A Wet-Fart Reactionary

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    There are a few obviously, but I see at least a few of you here who can actually watch a movie for what it is, and like it or dislike it based on its merits or lack thereof, rather than just spout some bullshit to be diametrically opposed to whatever the topic is.<br/>As a side-note, I'm glad to see that the principle opposition around here is still essentially monosyllabic; that is actually refreshing, compared to the overly-psuedo-intellectualized crap reviews over at the NYTimes and Salon, with their refrain of "too soon, too soon". I love how people look at Gojira in relation to Cloverfield and somehow manage to say with a straight face that Gojira is an honest interpretation of the fears and anxieties of a post-Hiroshima Japan but Cloverfield is crass. Um, was Godzilla treated as a thesis when it was first shown to American audiences (or even Japanese)? Or was it just escapist entertainment with a big monster?<br/>Also, having lived in NYC for a SHORT short time, the fact that the Cloverfield Beast From 20,000 Fathoms kicked the crap out of Midtown but nothing N of the park makes me laugh ... my friends & I could have sat on the roof of our 6th floor on 149th and smoked a fatty, before running for our lives further north still to the GW, with all the other lucky residents of Harlem.<br/>Man, I really hope my line-breaks work.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 12:58 a.m. CST

    Dammit.

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    Guess they didn't.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:07 a.m. CST

    DAMN YOU DHARMA initiative

    by BrightEyes

    FOR CREATING CLOVY!!!!!!!!

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:21 a.m. CST

    Also for those of you who can't understand why Rob would go back

    by BrightEyes

    You people have obviously never loved a girl cause if you have, it wouldn't be so monumentally unthinkable to risk your life to save your girl. Jesus, find a girl fall in love, You'll be much happier. and for you complainers of Rob going to save his love don't try to post saying you've had a girlfriend or you have one cause you don't and your only calling yourself out to be a dude who's never had a girlfriend. Long live the Cloverfield Monster.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:27 a.m. CST

    Entertaining, But Ultimately Ridiculous, Unintentionally Hilario

    by LaserPants

    By all means go see a matinee, cause it is a clever, if highly derivative, take on the whole giant monster thing. However, there are so many unbelievably stupid things that happen, and so many things that utterly erase the suspension of disbelief, that it ultimately became an unintentional comedy. Couple this with the fact that the characters are extremely irritating and unlikable (though, admittedly very pretty) and you have what is ultimately a pretty empty, kinda dumb, but also, at times, a pretty fun/entertaining movie. <br><br>I say this all with the caveat that, if I was 10, I probably would have loved it. I wouldn't have minded the completely ridiculous choices the characters make, and wouldn't have been put off at all by the fact that the main guy not only risks his life, but that of all his pathetic friends (who inexplicably follow him), in order to save a girl he slept with once, and who was clearly sleeping with another guy anyway. I mean, okay, I've slept with alot of women, and some of them I've loved, most of them I didn't, and almost none of them would I have risked my life for, ESPECIALLY one who was essentially a one night stand. ONLY in the minds of a 10 year old, does hooking up once make you fall in love. Well, 10 year olds and JJ Abrams apparently.<br><br> Oh, and in terms of the unintentional comedy, to give you an idea, the entire theatre I was in erupted into peals of uncontrollable laughter at the end. I don't think that was the effect the director was shooting for. And yes, the final scene is so unbelievably corny, that unless you are an 8 year old girl, you will groan at the utter sappiness of it all. The saddest thing about this being the ending is supposed to be dark! And it kinda is, but the sap makes the darkness of the ending -- which is actually VERY Hollywood, just cleverly disguised as something else, something darker -- totally silly.<br><br> As a final note, where the hell did Rob get that camera? Its batteries run well over 24 hours, it has a highpowered flashlight AND night vision, can survive a helicopter crash from something like 1000+ feet above the city (oh, and so can the films stars), was eaten by the monster and spit out, and still films?! Is it some kind of super double secret space camera from Krypton, cause its basically indestructable.<br><br> But, okay, now I'm being mean. Don't take my word for it. Go see it for yourself. Its worth seeing, just really kinda stupid; nowhere near the work of genius its being touted as. <br><Br> Oh, and yes, THE HOST still retains the crown as the greatest giant monster movie ever made.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:28 a.m. CST

    Unintentionally Hilarious

    by LaserPants

    I hate that the headings run out of room.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Xiphos, Snarky

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    Thanks for the help, X ... I knew it was one of the standard formuli, but couldn't remember which (perhaps 1 too many fatties on the roof in Harlem?) <p> Snarky, I totally agree on the Godzilla thing but still have to ask, do you think that it was perceived as such when initially viewed or is this more likely a perspective reached YEARS afterward ... I remember watching all those Toho flicks on Saturday afternoons (SuperHost!) when I was a kid, and I don't remember anyone prefacing them with the disclaimer that they were SERIOUS ARTFUL DISCOURSE on the horrors of war in a post-atomic 20th century.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:34 a.m. CST

    OK, BrightEyes, Lets Say We Buy Rob Going Back

    by LaserPants

    Why the FUCK would his friends follow him?! <br><br>Well, clearly there's only one reason -- if they didn't, there wouldn't be a movie. Least ways not one done as a faux documentary. And that, my friend, is D-U-M-B.<br><br> I get the feeling that J.J. started making this thing, realized he got backed into a corner, started to panic, and then through all logic and reason out the window in order to fulfill the premise, no matter how many completely retarded things he had to do to make the premise fit his vision.<br><br> You know what might have made it work? Have no main characters. Pace the film so that we see a complete narrative told from a variety of sources and videos, from various cameras, all strung together. The whole conceit falls apart and becomes ridiculous because we're stuck with one group of intensely unlikable people who's need to document everything borders on the idiot savant, if not straight up retarded.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:37 a.m. CST

    The Camera

    by Oomlot

    Seems like, at most, it ran for 8 hours. And that's not including the idea that Hud did turn it off every now and again, it's not like the movie was set in real time or anything. There are cameras out there made to be impact and waterproof, as well as special batteries that can double the normal length of a Lithium-Ion battery. I really have no issue with how well the camera performed. I mean, after all these are Yuppies, and if anyone can afford a camera that kicks that much ass, they can.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:37 a.m. CST

    Sorry For The Copious Grammatical Errors

    by LaserPants

    Its late and I'm tired.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:39 a.m. CST

    The Host, The Host, The Host

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    Right, right ... you're all SO 'exposed', we get it. <p> But seriously, it was an ok movie that gets a MAJOR pass for it's origin outside the U.S. I suppose that's ok, I watch alot of Asian imports and it's definately nice to see one getting accollades and not just a sub-par remake, but c'mon people ... "The Greatest Ever"? <p> I certainly wouldn't say that, but then, I wouldn't even say its better than CF.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:40 a.m. CST

    A Camera That Can Survive A Helicopter Crash & Being Eaten???

    by LaserPants

    Riiiiiiiiight.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:42 a.m. CST

    THE HOST = Greatest Giant Monster Movie Ever, McGruder

    by LaserPants

    Do read the post, before you criticize it, please. Otherwise, you seem silly.<br><br> Not sure what you mean by being "exposed" though. I assure you, I am wearing pants.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:46 a.m. CST

    The camera wasn't eaten...

    by Zardoz

    Hud was eaten! (mmmm, Hud!)

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:48 a.m. CST

    In Addition, THE HOST Didn't Get "A Pass"

    by LaserPants

    It garnered near universal critical acclaim; mostly because of its superb story and characters. I believe its at like 92% fresh at RT (check out the reviews and compare them with the reviews for Cloverfield, then come back and chat some more.) <br><br>By the way, I say this all with the caveat that I found Cloverfield entertaining for what it was, just NOWHERE NEAR the work of genius some of you seem to think it was. Actually, it was pretty stupid, but had some cool moments.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:51 a.m. CST

    Um, Did Not Hud Have The Camera In His Hands?

    by LaserPants

    ...

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 1:53 a.m. CST

    AMAZING movie!! No sequel needed!

    by Lance2769

    I loved almost every second of this movie. I am envious of this director or I could only dream that my first film had been this. It mastered what it set out to do which is to give the viewer a first-person perspective of a large scale city catastrophe. Has anyone seen the Sept 11th documentary 9/11 by the Nuadet brothers? It is a powerful and amazing film because these guys were right there in the middle of the collapsing towers. One of them went into Twin Towers as it was collapsing, all while shooting video footage of it. Just like this movie, the guy behind the camera does his best to keep the shots steady (but can't) and feels compelled to keep filming despite the horror unfolding before him. It is an emotional decision that he makes, to keep filming based on knowing that one day, "People will want to know how it all went down." That is what this movie reminded me of. Shakey cameras, chaos, just enough camera angels to give you just enough info what what is unfolding, running and not filming when you need to, people making poor AND brave decisions, etc. The only change I would have made as director was the inclusion of the the CG creature, shown in close-up attacking Hud. It slightly took me away from the realism that it had built up. I liked the obscure shots of the monster and not really knowing what it was. This close-up scene gave it that Hollywood-type feeling that the creature is always convieniently near the main characters. Other than this scene, the movie was perfect. Each handheld shot was masterfully practiced to give you just the right angle and information of the scene. The use of overlaying previously shot footage of Rob and Beth's romantics, in between the attack footage was perfect in giving us all the background info we needed about these two characters AND as a way to end the story - all he wanted to do was take her to Coney Island. And finally the decision of keeping this "footage" as real as possible by restraining from using tension-building music was a great artistic decision NOTE TO JJ ABRAHAMS and CO.: Learn from previous great films and PLEASE DO NOT MAKE A SEQUEL OR YOU WILL RUIN THIS MOVIE FROM EVER BEING A CLASSIC. IT WAS AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE - NO NEED TO EXPLAIN ANY UNANSWERED QUESTIONS - SOMETIMES THESE UNANSWERED QUESTIONS ARE WHAT DEFINES A MOVIE AS A 'CLASSIC'.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:04 a.m. CST

    So They Couldn't Have Followed The Soldiers?

    by LaserPants

    Or taken the Williamsburg Bridge?<br><br> Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.<br><br> Oh, and speaking of the soldiers, do you honestly think that the Army would have let Rob go? <br><br>"Yeah, man, go get your girl. True love is, like, the most important thing. Don't worry though, we'll -- that is, the US Military -- will wait here for you. We'll wait right here, as you go save that girl you fucked once, to fly you and your retarded friends out in a helicopter. No, no, don't worry son, we're not that concerned with getting the thousands of other civilians evacuated because *sniff*sob*choke*, you Rob, have f-found... true.. love! NO GO GET HER MAN! And tell her you love her! You only get one chance at true love! You never know when that one night stand could be the one! Now run, Rob, RUN LIKE THE WIND!"

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST

    OK, Before I Get Totally Clobbered ...

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    Let me say that I wasn't trying to specifically call you out, LP, I've seen the rave reviews The Host got like everywhere, I just don't happen to agree with all of them. Nor do I specifically think that CF is a work of genius, I'm looking at it right now as a nifty piece of pop-art that kept me decently entertained and didn't flat-out annoy the crap out of me and leave me feeling ultimately cheated like a lot of movies tend to (I submit The Mist, a film that has also been mentioned once or twice somewhere, maybe not this TB). <p> I guess my biggest bitch is, that in the negative reviews I've read, very rarely is the reviewer even talking about the movie I saw. They've spent more time feigning offense at the obvious 9/11 allusions and comparing it to 1 of 2 movies: The Host or Godzilla. <p> @ Snarky2: I wouldn't be the 1st to say there's nothing new under the sun.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:09 a.m. CST

    I Getcha McGruder

    by LaserPants

    If its any consolation, I enjoyed Clovefield too, I just think its nowhere near as good as some people are saying it is. I thought it was a fun movie with some cool moments, but also alot of unbelievably stupid moments. Still, a fun movie well worth watching.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:10 a.m. CST

    RE: Reviews of The Host ...

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    I should have said that I don't ENTIRELY agree w/ all of them. It's a good movie, just not my personal fave and not, in my opinion the best anything, except maybe The Best South Korean Giant Monster Movie I've Ever Seen. <p> Ok, I feel better now.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:18 a.m. CST

    friends, ill be there for you

    by davy jones owns

    thats why they followed rob. because they were all friends with eachother. duh dude

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:30 a.m. CST

    No Way, Man!

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    Friends don't follow each other for reasons of love & loyalty anymore. You didn't get the text informing you that you will die alone? <p> I thought we all got it. <p> Also, nobody EVER stands around, inactive but for camera phone on avi record, while crazy shit goes down right in front of them (btw, Don't Tase Me, Bro©)

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:30 a.m. CST

    Soldiers

    by Oomlot

    Well, it wasn't the 'U.S. Army' that let Rob go, it was just one guy. He told Rob where the last helicopter would be, and when it would be leaving, and let him go because it was what seemed like the easiest way of dealing with him. Or maybe, the soldier figured it was going to be 3 less people he'd have to worry about at all, and he let them go because it would mean he didn't have to deal with them.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:30 a.m. CST

    Robert Hawkins

    by hamslime

    He was the douche that shot up Westroads in Omaha. I was gonna write it off as a coincidence, but Bright Eyes (also from Omaha) is on the soundtrack. So, the question I have... besides what I just mentioned, and the obvious 9/11 references, are there any other disasters, terrorist attacks, ect. hidden in the movie?

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:37 a.m. CST

    Minnesota

    by hamslime

    Bridge collapse is another one.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:38 a.m. CST

    Uh, Yeah, But ALIENS Wasn't Presented As A Documentary

    by LaserPants

    Owned? Owned.<br><br> And dude, please, I'm far from upset. I didn't even say it was a bad movie! I said it was a fun, but ultimately really dumb movie. As I've said numerous times, I enjoyed the movie for what it was. There were some cool moments, and there were some unbelievably stupid moments. And most of the unbelievably stupid moments come from the fact that its supposed to be believable and deep, dark, and scary. Well its not. Definitely some cool moments and scares, but mostly unintentionally funny and ridiculous. Which is fine, cool, great, but people are calling it a work of genius unparalleled in the history of film, and that is just laughable. It was fun. Entertaining, but ridiculous; at least in terms of the premise that this is supposed to be believable. <br><br>Oh, and you don't think the soldier would have been court-martialed for letting three civilians go track down some chick the dude fucked once in what is essentially a war zone? Maybe the apocalypse? Are you serious? AND that he would let them tape it? Really? You bought that? Then, geez, man, I really don't know what to say. <br><br> And again, as I have said countless times, I liked the movie! I just thought there was alot of really stupid shit in it in addition to some pretty cool, scary moments.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:45 a.m. CST

    Don't Tase Me Bro?

    by LaserPants

    Hold up a minute. Can you honestly tell me that "don't tase me bro" even comes close to, say, THE ENTIRE CITY BEING DESTROYED? Didn't think so. <br><br> And, no, I'm sorry, I don't buy AT ALL, that Rob's friends would risk their lives so he can pick up some girl he fucked once. More likely than not they would try to escape Manhattan. Why? Because it is the sensible and sane thing to do. Of course, perhaps life really is just like High School Musical with Monsters, and everyone I know would follow me, perhaps even singing songs of love, as I track down that girl I fucked last weekend while the city explodes around us. Like, totally!

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:49 a.m. CST

    I liked this better than The Host, which was good...

    by Zardoz

    but DEFINITELY not better than Jaws. (which remains one of the best "monster" movies ever made. PERIOD.) And LP, not all of Hud was eaten: we see the remains of his corpse next to the camera. So, not all of Hud was eaten, and the camera was NEVER eaten. (just imagine the camera being in Hud's hand as the rest of his body is being chewed and then spat out!)

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:55 a.m. CST

    If it were my friend's girlfriend

    by hamslime

    I might go help save her. That is of course if I didn't find her to be a complete bitch. I'm sure Rob's mom probably didn't think to highly of her after the fact. Can you imagine hearing from one of your son's that the other was killed? Rob still being "safe" was her last bit of hope. Not only is her other son dead, but she probably never knew for sure wheather or not he made it out. That would absolutly devestate any parent. At least with her other son she had closure.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 2:58 a.m. CST

    son's? sons

    by hamslime

    What's "Don't tase me bro!" guy got to do with this? I don't remember that part.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 3:15 a.m. CST

    I Brought Up DTMB©

    by FatherMcGruderKicksAssForTheLord

    But LP is right, it is a silly comparison - I really should have cited the footage of the Oakland freeway collapse <p> http://tinyurl.com/2h5kbs <p> as it better illustrates an instance where individuals have managed to document newsworthy events as well or better than the news establishment. <p> DTMB© seemed funnier at the time.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 3:17 a.m. CST

    To all the cunce talking about me

    by messi

    It's superstar talkbacker messi here. I just read this thread now and noticed people talking about my superstar self. <p> Yes, yackbacker and I are something of pariahs because we like Transformers, maybe not just for the fact we like it but because for a year we were talking incredibly brutal shit about it and Bay(where is superninja by the way?) and then we saw it and liked it. I guess even though we were commended for not being pussies and telling the truth but we still get shit, but this is aicn, everyone hates something even if it is the best thing in the world. Transformers was going to get shit regardless how good it was, this is the site that has people even talking shit on there will be blood. I guess it's why it's notorious and sometimes people don't take it seriously. <p> bringingsexyback....aren't you the guy that is obsessed with dancing with the stars? Also if you read Sinestro Corps War you would also go nuts about it and blow out a talkback if there was a movie made. It's the best superhero story I have ever read, yes even better than the Galactus saga, death of Gwen Stacy. I hadn't read a story like this that felt like Star Wars and Lord of the Rings since watching empire and reading the lotr books. <p> Abin Sur, former predecessor. Yes I like Green Lantern but it's one of the few things I routinely mention on the site along with Children of Men and Mogwai. And yes I hate right wing cunts. <p> Tourist. how am I a moron? because I liked Cloverfield and transformers? Like I said I also happen to think Children of Men is one of the greatest movies ever made. And in my spare time I like to listen to bands that intelligent people like to listen to. Like mogwai, isis, cult of luna, boris. You can't say i'm a moron with taste like that. But I do think the "i can't believe it's not godzilla" comment was hilarious, reminded me of I can't believe it's not Hitler from uncyclopedia. <p> so to all I bid you farewell as I go eat Children of Men second disc dvd's. In Blackest day, In Brightest Night. <p> talkback superstar messi <p> SINESTRO CORPS WAR!

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 3:40 a.m. CST

    Isis kicks ass

    by hamslime

    I got to see them play with Dillinger Escape Plan, Candiria, and Darkest Hour. It made my duck butter melt!

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 4:10 a.m. CST

    hamslime

    by messi

    when was this? Darkest Hour! one of the best Metal bands in the world, too bad their producer is shitty. and isis playing with DEP? fuck.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 4:37 a.m. CST

    Dear hate-filled bitches:

    by JumpinJehosaphat

    I'm so glad I don't know three quarters of you joyless, unimaginative whiny fucks. If I had to put up with just one second of sitting next to you in the theater going "I wouldn't do that! That doesn't look real!", I'd be well tempted to meet you in the parking lot after the show with a tire iron. It would put you out of your and everyone else's misery, and keep one more person who feels they can never have a moment of enjoyment (so no one else should, either) off the planet.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 4:37 a.m. CST

    HUD POPS! [now with more hipster!] mmm,mm good!

    by ironic_name

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 4:41 a.m. CST

    Messi

    by Oomlot

    I can't believe people didn't like transformers, maybe I liked it because I was one of about 5 people in the world (or so it seemed) that could follow what the robots were doing all the time. Transformers fast blurry action is weak compared to Advent Children or Karas. But Anyway, you should try not to take things personally in here, my cloverfield review was just after yours in that group they put up, and I have been reading all the posts relating to it all for the past couple of days. some of it is funny shit, but none of it is anything a person should take to heart.

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 5:06 a.m. CST

    messi

    by hamslime

    This was a few years ago at a little hole in the wall. It was about the same time Calculating Infinity came out. I believe Darkest Hour just released their first album. DEP was great. They still had their old singer and did the entire show with a strobe light on. If you though Cloverfield made you sick...Fuck. All the bands were pretty unknown at the time so the