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Green Lantern, Wonder Woman & J’onn J’onzz Grounded!! George Miller’s JUSTICE LEAGUE Production Delayed By Strike!!
I am – Hercules!!
Citing script problems that couldn’t be remedied during the writers guild strike, Warner Bros. has decided to let its options lapse on the cast for George Miller’s upcoming “Justice League” movie.
The project will now have to wait until the AMPTP and/or Warner Bros. make deals with the writers, actors and directors guilds. The latter two unions see their agreements with the studios come up for renewal this summer.
Those said to have been cast but now may or may not be available once production commences include:
Adam Brody (Wally West), who turns 29 in December;
Scott Porter (Clark Kent), who turns 29 in July;
Lonnie “Common” Lynn (John Stewart), who turns 36 in March;
Megan Gale (Diana of Themyscira), who turns 32 in August.
Many in talkback will be thrilled that that such young actors may not play these iconic DC superheroes.
But. Look at the ages of other actors when they played their superhero roles:
Christopher Reeve, 24 in 1976;
Lynda Carter, 24 in 1975;
Christian Bale, 29 in 2003;
Brandon Routh, 25 in 2004.
Read all of Variety’s story on the delay here.
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that wasn't the problem IMHO.
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Megan Gale was Wonder Woman. :|
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...and good riddance.
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This one needed to die.
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I like Megan Gale.
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Which superhero? I'm glad Warners decided to delay it than force it through if the script sucked. Well played.
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I can't believe this is happening! Somebody get Ja on the phone! I want to know what he's feeling right now!
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Thank you! I don't mind the cast, but at least this way they'll wait for a story that's good. (New Frontier wouldn't be bad, but Warner's would probably insist it be updated to modern times and that would rip the heart out of it.)
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Batman!
They should have the actors that are playing them now (Bale & that other guy) play them in any movie. Just like Marvel is going to do with the Avengers. -
RIP JLA movie. I didn't expect this. I expected Warners to try to cram it through with the finesse of a jackhammer to the face. This news rocks.
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There is a God, and He loves all of us.
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I think one was considered a woman at age 21 in 1975. Nowadays we refer to that age group as "Hottie: i.e. "Wonder Hottie"
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I want to see the World's Greatest Superhero take down some super-powered super villains.
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News to me.
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http://www.expotv.com/videos/reviews/2/28/BOB-Revolution-Stroller-in-Mesa-Orange/191152
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Well, I for one still think it's a lame idea. Some of the cast works for me (I think Gale looks good for the role) and some of it doesn't (Porter? For real?) And over at Moviehole they had a name drop of who plays Batman, and if its true, oh God, it's terrible.
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Now maybe the suits can take their heads out of their asses, do some good and give Geoff Johns the Green Lantern movie he's actually interested in writing/directing.
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but he had a presence far, far beyond his age. All credit to him and Richard Donner for making him, essentially, Superman.
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10 nobodies isn't equatable to what took place during the casting of Superman with Reeve or Superman with Routh, although the crappiness of the Routh project should have told WB how much of a mistake they were and are making with this Justice League movie.
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That CGI JLA they originally were talking about is looking better and better as this live action POS sounds worse and worse...
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As much as anyone doesn't want to admit it.... this was going to be a train wreck... they don't even have a decent script yet, and wont put more effort into production if buzz isn't STRONG enough.... but no one is going to be buzzing about it cause so far its only been bullshit and rumors. Catch 22.. smoke em if you got em
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to come out of the writer's strike so far. I think in the end this movie would confuse the hell out of the general public (the less informed/non geeks). Different actors playing the biggest heroes. Some will disagree but I hope this better solidfies Brandon Routh's role as Superman.
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...Since Tuesday.....get on the ball, AICN.
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Talent does. Reeves was a talented fucking actor who was hungry for the part and took the role dead seriously. He even went so far as to work out with Darth Vader himself in order to beef up enough to fill the tights. Do you really think any of the actors attached to this project had anywhere near that level of dedication?
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Needs to be in the JLA movie!
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Did you just compare Scott Porter to Christian Bale and Christopher Reeve???.. That, sir, is something I'd expect from Harry, but not YOU HERC?!?!... A POX ON YOU!, A POX I SAY!!... Good DAY sir!.
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I retract my earlier statement. Superman Returns was a fucking joke due to the story and the age of the actors. Supes and Lois had met,fell in love,Lois had given birth to a child who was 5 years old,and Supes had flown back to Krypton. It was a story about characters who had a past and a history together and neither ROuth nor Bosworth looked old enough to drink. Kate Bosworth was what,23 in human years when that film was shot? And since she's a Hollywood actress that means she actually looked 12. Did anybody buy her as an award winning reporter AND the mother of a 5 year old? That movie would have been good if that had actually cast ADULTS in the lead roles. Same with the MIA JLA.
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Hallelujah!!!!! It's for the best. Do this as a motion capture film with a great voice cast, including Kevin Conroy or Bale as Bats.One big problem at TimeWarner is the elitism of the movie division. They dictate what characters can appear where on TV and in movies, but will not hire on-staff writers who work in other divisions. With Paul Dini, Bruce Timm and scores others on staff working on animated shows, DVDs, comics, Smallville, major movies for the "New Line" division, etc., they still insist on hiring freelancers or people who worked on movies for the other major media corporations. Can a major stockholder (since that is all they listen too) please tell these idiots to hire IN-HOUSE!!-----later-----m
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She was one of the only things I couldn't stand about SR. She was terribly miscast in that role.
Let's face it. I know we're going for a different universe here, but Porter doesn't even look like a Superman. Why not go for Nic Cage all over again? Brody is famous because of an over-rated televsion show made famous by teenage girls. Being on a popular FOX show doesn't mean you can act. Ask the cast of 90210. -
Please lets get MEN to play our heroes. Not Kids from 90210.
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can still be wonder women.
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only if you clone her.
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Bale was already 30 when they started filming Begins, but age alone isn't the issue. It's the credibility, experience, and frankly the talent, or lack there of, of these "actors" that irked people. Plus the George Miller making this film is not the Mad Max Miller anymore, it's the Babe and Happy Feet George Miller. Babe was at least a good kids movie, but Happy Feet was awful.
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and it might be a good thing if they are force to recast...
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Jan 16, 2008 10:30:17 PM CST
Good because this had suck written all over it.
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
Should not have gone forward anyway and please no lectures on George Miller. Mad Max III fucking sucked. Lorenzos Oil was a snore. The Witches of Eastwick was the only film that I really enjoyed by Mr Miller. Babe was overrated. So please no lectures on how great George Miller is. This movie could have killed the comic book movies for a while so I am very grateful it's on hold and hopefully forever.
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fuck boyblue and kal reeve. cunce who know shit about superman.
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Age (and apparent age) is pretty important for most of these roles. It's the difference between Stuart Townsend or Viggo Mortensen playing Aragorn...for the leader, you want someone with presence and gravitas and Scott Porter just doesnt have it. Chris Reeves might have been 24 at the time he first played Superman, but he looked like a man and that's what kids want to see when they go to this movie. When I was a kid, I never wanted to be Luke Skywalker or Robin when I played, I wanted to be Han Solo and Batman. Superman should be someone like Tim Daly (he did the voice in the cartoons, Jamie Bamber, or Jim Caviezel. And for Batman, I wouldn't mind seeing Thomas Gibson (watch him on Criminal Minds...that's Batman)
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This place is a fount of optimism.
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*sigh of immense relief*
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Just like I'm hanging to see the sequel to 27 dresses and AVP3 - ripley roots arnie.... i'll be back you girly man
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That is all.
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Jan 16, 2008 10:58:24 PM CST
KILL IT WHILE IT'S DOWN! KILL IT WHILE IT'S DOOOOWWWWWWWNNN!!!
by jdl82
Kill it! Kill it now! Kill it good and kill it hard! This movie should never see the green light at all! Give me more Nolan-directed, Bale-starring Batman movies, and maybe MAYBE even a few more choice Marvel projects, but never EVER let anyone other than Superman and only Superman be seen wearing tights.
We have already seen a man run faster than a speeding bullet; we have already seen variously colored lasers and energy beams come out of every object imaginable; we have already seen countless people fly; we have already seen mutants, talking animals, eye shadow masks, hairstyles that defy tornados, and alter-ego costumes that miraculously, MIRACULOUSLY hide underneath everyday clothes. READ MY LIPS: WE DON'T NEED ANY MORE SUPERHERO MOVIES!!! They are cinematic disgraces! -
http://ww w.yout ube.co m/watch?v=ZgzNS L0WqoQ
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It's all about perception. I mean like for Bale (which, BB was in 2005, not 2003) if you would've told me he was only 29 at that time I would've said you were full of shit. He plays as definitely a few years older onscreen, I had no problem with him as Bruce/Batman.
But someone like Kate Bosworth on the other hand, she plays right along with what her age really is, early 20's. She was WAAAAAY too young looking to play Lois Lane. Lois Lane should be a WOMAN. But Routh at only 24, I didn't know that, I thought he played older than that (whereas, again, someone like Josh Hartnett would've been a terrible choice. He actualy looks his young age, not to mention of course also being an awful actor) -
Age-wise, none of them were too young. Look-wise, Adam Brody looks about 12. Scott Porter I was actually kind of excited about because I've been watching the entire first season of Friday Night Lights this past week, and I think he could pull it off. Ultimately, though, it's good news. It would've just caused confusion.
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That site must be so happy right now!
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I just don't want a shitty story.
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Get a proper director like Fincher to make the real movie the public wants to see with stars attatched.
Bale as Batman
Caviezel as Superman (even routh if you gotta)
Ed Norton as Green Lantern
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That would have been terrible, and i am surprised no one mentioned that shit.
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That's what is needed. With a de-aged Harrison Ford as Hal Jordan.
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think about it. The Dark Knight is going to be huge, like mega fucking huge. Warners is going to say 'two batmen, no way'. That will be the final nail in the coffin. At least till a few years.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0km536vhF94
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Come on. That would have been terrible. And Adam Brody may be 29, but he looks like he's 19. Scott Porter is the only one of the bunch I was rooting for. All American looks with acting range to boot. But the others?
WB was trying to make this into something it is not, a kind of amped up X-Men, as far as the young looking casting goes. In my eyes, the only Justice League movie that would work would entail having a cast that is in their mid to late 30s at least.
The difference between Justice League and X-Men is that the Justice League's heroes are, for the most part, iconic individual superheroes of comic lore. The X-Men movies, while they did have big names like Wolverine, were always identified as being young and being more team oriented.
So with JL, having Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, and The Flash so young just didn't have the same feel. JL would be BADASS if these iconic heroes were experienced, scared (emotional in Superman's case), battle torn, etc. And shit gets so bad in the world that they have to team up. THAT'S the movie the WB should shoot for. Not some light, yay for youth band of twenty somethings.
JL needs casting like Nolan has done for the new Batmans (Christian Bale, need I say more?) While Bale was only 29 in 2003 when he was cast, he didn't LOOK that young. Brandon Routh as Superman is borderline, age-wise, but at least he wasn't a twenty something that looked like a teenager (i.e. Brody and Hammer). Can you really believe Armie Hammer, who's 21 years old (!?!?), as Batman? I'm a Friday Night Lights fan, so Scott Porter as Superman was the only casting I did like... even though he plays a teen in the show. Regardless, I would still rather have an older Superman.
I think this is a blessing in disguise for the WB. Hey, the writer's strike actually worked for the good of a movie in development! -
bruce is about 25 when he starts up read year one, in begins he disappears for seven years after his first year in college
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Both Variety and The Hollywood Reporter have confirmed that Warner Bros. Pictures let the options lapse on Tuesday for the cast members, which included D.J. Cotrona, Adam Brody, Anton Yelchin, Common, Teresa Palmer and Megan Gale. The studio cited script issues as the one of the causes and the other is that the project needed tax breaks from shooting in Australia.
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...the problem was they were NOBODIES. Teen soap opera rejects playing the world's most famous heroes. When Adam Brody is the "star" of your cast, you have major problems.
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Jan 17, 2008 12:26:54 AM CST
Am I the only one that would have liked to see an OLDER cast?
by jobacca
And by Older I mean old. Imagine a Batman in his late 50's...all scarred up and pissed off with grey hair and a psychotic amount of attitude. A Superman who looks like an Alex Ross drawing from Kingdom Come. Wonder Woman could look like she was 21 because she never really ages anyway-just get a decent actress. Imagine how cool it would be to get a story not based on but in the same vein as Kingdom Come or The Dark Knight Returns or hell,even Batman Beyond...older experienced legends teaming up to train a new generation and save the world.
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This beast will not get up again, methinks. Not for some time, anyway.
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The little wannabe rock star asshole narrating I AM LEGEND when I saw it also booed the RAMBO trailer and said "God, retire already!" I'm so sick of you little bastards having no respect for your elders. People making cheap jokes about Indiana Jones being too old – what, you never heard of CLINT FUCKING EASTWOOD? He's as old as dirt and can and will crush your skull with one hand while having a heart attack. So fuck you. Older people look more interesting, they have more lines on their faces and more stories to tell. I want to see action heroes with some experience, and some grit. So I'm with you nerds, they shoulda got an old guy to play Batman and not a 21 year old (which by the way is confirmed in this article, so congratulations, you now know one thing about the movie to complain about).
On the other hand, read that kid's profile on IMDb. Motherfucker is 6'5, does magic tricks AND collects knives, and is the heir to some famous industrialist. Doesn't say if his parents were killed and he wants revenge but I'll bet you your Batman pajamas that Miller cast him based on his background being similar to the character he's playing.
By the way, what's up with everybody complaining that they're "nobodies"? If they can't act that's a problem but who knows. You thought this was gonna be OCEAN'S 11 or something? You wanna see Nicolas Cage and everybody in there, new faces make you uncomfortable? I don't get that one. -
And he wants better prospects for DC superheros! Thank you sweet baby Jesus! (They weren't too young, they just suck ass. Sub par actors all of them, not even unknowns.)
Go writers strike! This strike rocks! Weed out the shit! Bring on teh pwn!
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, Scott Porter, and Megan Gale. They will watch a marathon of DC superhero movies (that are actually good) and they will all cry because they didn't land the Justice League movie.
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We do not get all tingly from the prospects of the guy who brought us HAPPY FEET directing the JLA. Hell. His view of the characters come across as ridiculou as those of Morrison. It's just goofy shit, that does not suit a movie that would cost this much. Pick a villian, give them a reason to fight, and save the day. Do not have them be modern gods or some nonsense.
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...a problem with, it was the young appearance that the aforementioned actors had. We've said it a million times: Christopher Reeve, Linda Carter and Christian Bale were all young but had a mature-look to them that perfectly fit with the superhero characters they were playing. With exception of Megan Gale and Common, all the other actors for this movie were grossly miscast. They all look like freakin' kids, WB or should I say CW kids at that. The title characters are called SuperMAN and WonderWOMAN for a reason NOT SuperKid, Superboy and WonderGirl. That being said..if anything good has come from this ever-going writer's strike, it has been the hopeful delay and eventual demise of this movie and the one hour Golden Globes show.
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...to the AVP of Superhero movies. JLA will return (of course) but by then with a bit of luck we might be gearing up for Iron Man 2 (God that teaser trailer is like every comic-geeks fantasy come true), more Incredible Hulk - if the first turns out well (and I'm sure as hell hoping it kicks serious ass) or the final Nolan Batman (if that is to be the case - wipes tear from eye) - there's plenty to look forward to in Superhero-cinema before this clunker farts out onto the screen and makes children the world-over cry (I don't have an issue with the ages of actors playing these types of parts as long as they're well cast, I just have an issue with JLA period - give me individual films - not a cash-in ensemble).
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Fans had been saying Christian Bale would be perfect for Batman before a franchise reboot was even being considered. Needless to say, look at that movie, it's not just a commercial success, but a great film. And with The Dark Knight, hopefully we are getting another. But what are the people involved doing right? 1) Considering what people who have vested interest in the property and material have to say. (You can't tell me someone smart didn't find out about fan boys talking about how Christian Bale would be great and then going with it later on.) 2) Taking not just the material dead seriously, but more importantly, taking the process of its translation into a more realistic world that an intelligent viewer can relate to; dead seriously as well.
You can translate many comic book story arcs to film, even some of the more absurd ones, more or less faithfully, but it is this fine balance between respecting the source material and capturing its essence, and editing for the real world that is impossible for most to pull off.
That being said...RYAN REYNOLDS IS THE FLASH! Please please please make it so! I think the Flash is easily the most bankable DC character after Batman and Superman, also the most easily recognized. Green Lantern is a close second to the Flash in terms of general awareness. Wonder Woman is of course probably better known than both of them, but unless that movie is done very very well (hard to do, as campy as Wonder Woman is) and has a BANGIN' female lead, who is also tough enough to make you believe that even a positive cup check wouldn't save your nuts from her cracker if you made a lewd remark about her tight ass. Tough to pull off, indeed. -
by the time the filming starts Dark Knight will already have been out and they will realize making another universe movie with batman would be incredibly stupid.
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Who gives a shit about the flash, seriously? I mean, I'd ask the same question about Deadpool and people drooling over his potential appearance in Wolverine.
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Has WB woke the fuck up? Thank you striking writers, your sacrifice has not been in vain.
I love how Herc doesn't mention the 21 YEAR OLD BATMAN! But I guess that would defeat his argument.
The rest of the cast wasn't too young. THEY WERE TOO CRAP. Not only did they lack experience, but they were bland and charmless. They weren't just cheap, they looked cheap.
Jon Hamm might be earning minimum wage, but he'd bring a nice classy buzz to Batman. He isn't cheap. Zac Efron might be despised by everyone over the age of 12, but he is a mega-star to the pre-teens and his price is currently almost nothing. Put him in the younger Flash cameo, and watch the tweens turn out. He'd be inexpensive, without looking cheap. Tom Welling is stuck on tv and probably would do the movie for free. He's already got a fanbase who can see him in the role. He'd be inexpensive, without looking cheap. Thomas Jane's last few movies bombed. At this point, he might even pay WB to appear in a hit. He doesn't cost much, but he ain't cheap. Those are just some of the hundreds of possibilities.
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Superman - Christopher Reeve
Batman - Christian Bale
Wonder Woman - Angelina Jolie
Hal Jordan - Harrison Ford
Aquaman - Steve McQueen
Martian Manhunter - Laurence Fishburne
Barry Allen - Matt Damon
Wally West - (blank)
Plastic Man - Jerry Lewis
Kyle Rayner - (blank)
John Stewart - Denzel Washington
Booster Gold - Brad Pitt(HA!)
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you never read Mark Waid's run on Flash or seen the JL cartoons? Deadpool is a sweet character which is why people are salivating.
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NOT 2003.
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Hes a good young actor. Right?
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Jan 17, 2008 1:58:00 AM CST
For all we know they would have been perfect in the roles
by neodevilbanex
But now we won't know. For a while.
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... you guys realize it didn't film the same year it came out, right? It began filming in 2003.
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Flash can run super fast. Green Lantern can make whatever the fuck he wants with his ring... and move as fast as he wants.
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Jan 17, 2008 2:09:02 AM CST
too bad because 6'5" Batman would've been awesome, Weta costumes
by calico pete
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And here I thought I could fit an entire post into the subject line. Ahem, what I was saying was: too bad about the delay because a 6'5" Batman would've been awesome, costumes by Weta would've been awesome, and atmosphere, pacing, art-direction, and characterization, all via George Miller, would have been friggin' awesome! I hope we still get to see this, with better villains than Maxwell Lord.
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Green Lantern can't move faster than Flash. His powers (including the ability to pass through solid objects) were vastly under-utilized in the animated series, but were quite awesome in the comic canon.
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See Babe 2:Pig in the City if you doubt he'd capture the perfect atmosphere.
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He can move faster than Superman, which means he moves faster than Superman does in order to go back in time, which is really fast.I'm not sure how one would capture such speed on film.
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You are a GANGSTER. I bet folk didn't even clock your reference.
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Is that Christopher Reeve, Lynda Carter and Christian Bale looked like adults when they began playing their parts (and despite his excellent performance, I still think Routh looked too young), whereas everyone involved in Justice League, with the exception of Common and the girl they got for Wonder Woman, looks like they're still pulling bits of umbilical cord from their belly buttons.
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Jan 17, 2008 3:09:26 AM CST
JUST CANCEL THIS MOVIE - IT SOUNDS LIKE A FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT!
by 69dude
That is all...
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Christopher Reeve and Lynda Carter look mature to us now because we were kids when we saw them in the roles of Superman and Wonder Woman. Back then I thought 14 was ancient. Plus, I really do think people grew up quicker in those days you know? Its the norm now for twentysomethings to cling to the trappings of their youth (skateboarding, converse trainers, comic book reading, wearing hooded tops etc). Back in the seventies, 24 was probably still quite a mature age.
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Comparing the age's of the actors is redundent!!
So what, they still look like kids!! Im 15 and I look 25 I have a freind who is 27 and he still gets asked for ID in bars and another who is 24 and looks like a 40 year old!!
I feel the main gripe is that we have seen the origin storys and the young years before... I cant think of any one attempting a good aged Superhero film and I think JLA would be great if it was a bunch of older heroes, with all there experience and baggage!!
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Cut the bitches head off to make sure it's really dead and stuff garlic down it's mouth for good measure
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Get somebody else to direct it.
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Matt Frewer- The Wonder Woman!
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George Miller wants the script to be better. Let the man do his thing. As for the haters...JLA will rock your socks off. And yes, we all know you will be the first in line to see this movie too. BRING ON THE JLA. But do it RIGHT!
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Messi you know it's the best thing in the world... Ever!
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"Smug jerkoff writers starving": nice attitude, dick. I hope you remember you said that if you're ever out of work yourself. The only thing worse than a smug writer is a smug nobody on a message board. I guess, too, you're one of these asses who's never met a real workaday joe writer (ie: the majority) and ignores the fact that most of the writers in the WGA are "starving artists" (to borrow one of your words) already. On a side note, have you paid any attention at all to anything besides your own opinion about writers? For starters, they're already getting what they want from individual studios and production companies. This myth of a group of "moguls" who collectively oppose the WGA is just that: a myth. Purported largely by the AMPTP, who WANTS everyone to believe that all the studios are in solidarity. Well it just ain't so, pal. Second of all, the WGA has been saying the entire time that while public support is important to them, it's not necessary. So I don't think they ever "believed" that the "general public" would "rise up". That was never their primary concern. Of course, they DO have a great deal of public support, which only increases with the increase of individual deals being made. Showing that in fact it WAS largely the AMPTP who were being unreasonable and/or uncooperative. My point being that while public support is great and helps forward their cause, your baseless and uninformed antagonism, shared by those who believe as you do that the writers are somehow to blame for this strike and/or are somehow inferior to your personal vision of what a writer "should" be, has little effect on their strategy or whether or not they are "winning".
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Where's the justice for the writers, huh?
Where's the justice in AMERICA???
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according to Reuters/Hollywood Reporter: "Word leaked in the fall that the script, by the husband-and-wife team of Kieran and Michele Mulroney, was good but that subsequent rewrites, including the latest by Miller, had pacing issues and took the project in the wrong direction." Does that mean that it maybe was the studio that didn't like Miller's ideas? I'm all for fixing the weaknesses but it bloody sad this gets delayed or shelved.And that Gale girl would have been wonderfully sexy wonder woman.
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the hormones they put in fast food! brandon eat too much chicken!
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Its a sad, sad day.
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he didn't eat chicken.
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They should've got Raimi or Jackson. They at least would've had some respect for the source material. Get Bruce Timm or Frank Miller to have written the script. Actor wise. They went the unknown so that they wouldn't have had to
pay them much. Get some actors that can actually act. Gosling as Aquaman, Farrel as Green Lantern (Hal Jordan), Reynolds as the Flash
(Wally West) and Bale and Routh as Batman and Superman respectively.
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It would've messed up the coninuity of all the franchises and confused the mainstream...then I'd have to explain to all the numbnuts around me that this is tottally seperate from The Dark Night movies and why Spider-Man and Ghost Rider aren't on the team...and that'd be a pain in the ass after a while.
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It was the fact that WB were ushing the roject at all. I know a lot of peole didn't like Superman Returns, but Routh was generally considered to be a good Superman, who just needed more to do.
What a lot of us wanted, was Routh and Bale in a Worlds Finest movie...or if WB wanted to go down the JLA route, then for them to get the Wonder Woman, Green Lantern and Flash solo movies done first and in 5 or 6 years, take the actors from the solo movies, including Routh and Bale, and then do a Justice League, after the solo franchises are up and running...you know, the same thing Marvel are doing.
WB would have then had established solo stars who had grown into their roles already and were known by the audience as well as some new stars for Manhunter and Aquaman, who would have been the ones to get spin-offs from JLA.
Personally, I'd do it in 2 parts...with a Worlds Finest movie using Routh and Bale going up against Intergang, mostly as a way to introduce the "real" Batman into the sci-fi/fantasy world...and then follow that up with JLA, using Darkseid as the villain. -
lmao your random funny c*nt
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mark millar hated superman returns too. mark millar wrote Ultimates.
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Jan 17, 2008 6:39:13 AM CST
Everyone here except Vern and a couple of others
by nomoredirtyjokespleaseweareyanks
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Green Lantern can move at transluminal speeds. they are faster than flash.
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you are a funny cunt. "the guy gardner" that is godlike.
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Sure, the new actors were of similar age to the older actors when they began their careers, but I doubt the new guys had the same gravitas.
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Frank Caliendo impersonating Robin Williams playing everyone in the JLA.
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GET FUCKED YOU TEENAGE QUEERS. Miller is a god of Cinema. You hate Babe, FUCK YOU. You think Lorenzo's Oil is boring, FUCK YOU. You can't see how brilliant Happy Feet is, GET FUCKED. You think Mad Max III is gay, FUCK YOU ESPECIALLY.
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Shia make me waaaf!
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you cursing that much BUT you are RIGHT!
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Jan 17, 2008 7:09:13 AM CST
We Didn't Say They Were Too Young... TOO YOUNG LOOKING...
by stlfilmwire
A couple of them just didn't look like heroes. I just thought they could do better.
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He f*cked up Batman Begins - come on, wake up. Action scenes were a laughable mess, too tightly framed and full of that stutter-stop photography that was so right in Saving Private Ryan but now has become a HUGE cliche - and Katie Holmes as a DA? Fuck me. And he bungled the damn ending...tacking on the lame fade out at Wayne Manor which just limped away...I still can't believe people liked this mess.
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That casting still didn't make a whole lot of sense (Maggie Gyllenhall is a much more believable choice) but I gotta set that straight.
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On the countdown thread. Now for my prophecy to be fulfilled George will walk away onto another project, Len Wiseman will take the reins and we'll see a Justice League film in 2011 starring James Van Der Beek, Freddie Prinze Jr and Rhona Mitra.
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Hey WB, make some short 5 minute Superman films with Routh. Make a couple of them similar to the classic 40's cartoons. Great way of instilling confidence in the filmed character. If SR was a nod to Donner, then these films would be a nod to the Fleisher films. These short films could be shown before kids movies. Kids would love seeing a Superman short film before the main movie.
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Thank God this has been delayed.... I wasn't upset about their age, I was upset that WB is attempting to have 2 different actors play the same superhero at the same time! They couldn't wait till Nolan is finished with the Batman franchise? Let Christian Bale be this generations Batman... I do hope SR2 goes in a different direction, but I like Routh. Kid plot was terrible... Plus lois and Spacey weren't that great...
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and fuck you too.
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....had a *killer* set'a tits.Just thought it needed sayin'.Now back to love-in that is this (and every other) talkback...
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You're just fucking retarded.
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Jan 17, 2008 7:48:23 AM CST
The problem was that the cast should be in TEEN TITANS instead
by spyguy
It doesn't matter if Adam Brody is actually 29. He doesn't look or sound a damn thing like Wally West, at least not the adult Wally West.
The same thing goes for the other cast members, who look far too young for their roles. Just look at underdeveloped Kate Bosworth in SUPERMAN RETURNS to see how casting too young-looking can hurt the project.
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...got their roles, comics fans, on average were in their teens and twenties. Now, when they cast actors who aren't nearly as young, comics fans complain. Reson is, comics fans, on average, are now in their 40's and 50's (basically they're mostly the same nerds who were comics fans 20 or 30 years ago) and can't get over how time's slipped away from them.
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are you BOF Jett?
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laughing at someone dying is the cleverest shit. Asshole.
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I just saw a poll (Rassmussen I think)...stating 62% of people said the writers strike had no bearing on their lives whatsoever. Don't get me wrong, writing is EVERYTHING when it comes to t.v and film...but it's quite low on the ranking of 'what's important in the world'list. And judging by the relief here of the fanboys, this strike was a timely blessing.
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Your a douche bag.
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With a little luck Miller (and Warner or whatever major studio) will now go full-speed ahead on the brand new Max movie Miller has been wanting to make for years now. Question though, can any of you writers/moderators explain to me WHY you wouldn't contact Miller's agency/laywer/Warner or the man himself to ask about Fury Road ? It annoys the hell out of me that people that have excellent contacts in the movie-business seem to be just too lazy (or uninterested ?) to check this out.
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While I like many of GM's movies...even think some are great, I don't think he's the right pick to helm JLA. And I can't even imagine that the Mulroney's could have come up with a better concept than those who have been involved with great superhero storytelling in the comics and cartoons.
I think the gods are shining down on the fans by having his movie put on the back-burner. Time to find the right director (Jackson, Timm, FRANK not George Miller) and artists and writers who know the characters inside and out (Mark Waid, Alex Ross, George Perez, Brad Meltzer).
Make the JLA that the FANS deserve - because without them there would be no JLA today. -
Since when was Mark Miller the watermark for good cinema?
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Get on with it already.
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Too many fucking superhero movies already. Sheesh. Grow up. Get a girlfriend. Get laid. Whatever.
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Too many fucking superhero movies already. Sheesh. Grow up. Get a girlfriend. Get laid. Whatever.
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Jan 17, 2008 8:37:10 AM CST
Um, yeah. This flies in the face of the original AICN JLA articl
by genro
...which made the case for WB using "young" actors because they were thinking of the age span versus the length it takes to make a trilogy.Can't have it both ways around here, boys. Can't say "WB is right" to cast young, then claim these cats were old.
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Some of us are talented enough to do all those things AND watch a superhero movie. You should really work on your skill sets, dude.
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http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080117/time_warner_cable_internet.html?.v=2
I will bail from Time-Warner Cable if they pull this shit. -
Until they can fix what happened to the first one.
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I was really having high hopes for this film. My biggest beef was they were possibly not going to have someone who could fill the iconic boots of Supes and Bats. In a perfect world, Bale would have been Bats, but Nolan is not going to play ball, so that can be counted out. For Supes, it should have been someone like Welling or someone who actually could look and play the part. Cotrona, Porter, etc. were not Superman, nor could they ever be. If you do not have a good Superman or Batman, the film would be mediocre at best. Those two roles have to be good. I still have a feeling they can salvage this one and perhaps Welling will be freed up. Just need to locate a good Batman.
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That part of the reason this was semi-greenlit in the first place was to "kill time" so the Bryan Singer Man of Steel project would also die (contracts with Singer lapsing and all that)?
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We'll have Iron Man, Indy, Speed Racer, Lonely Bones, Hulk Redux, Dark Knight, Wall-E, Hellboy 2, Harry Potter, Bond 22, Star Trek, Cloverfield and many more. Enjoy it while it lasts, cause if the strike ain't resolved by Summer, next year is gonna SUCK (no spec scripts, no rewrites, lots of rushed productions).
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It's not the actual age that's a problem. It's the physical appearance at that age. The only casting that I have real issues with were Scott Porter for Supes and all the names for Batman. And all those actors mentioned that have played the parts before looked much older than their age compared to this crop. I mean Reeve was 24?! Look at that movie and tell me he looks 24.
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mature cause they smoked cigarettes.
It makes you look mature and sophisticated. These new wanabees don't smoke that stuff. Its all about pills and exotic bottled water in the clubs. -
Thank the good lord they didn't do this. It's like a SMALLVILLE version of JLA. Bad actors, who are too young and really pretty. What the hell is with WB? Do they think we want a feature film episode of Smallville CW actors? BAD BAD BAD BAD IDEA.
How can they look at the success of BATMAN BEGINS and then claim that this is the right path.
This is all stupid TRANSFORMERS fault. The fact that it was a hit proved to the "big wigs" that you don't have to have any respect for the source material and long as you have pop culture stupidities.
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man you are fucking retarded. how does having a girlfriend make you more serious? I don't understand the validity. I get laid and get a girlfriend. Now what? I cant read Sinestro Corps War? which is more badass than anything you can imagine. you're a fucking idiot. enjoy watching chick flicks with your dumb shit girlfriend dumb cunt.
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Jan 17, 2008 10:49:42 AM CST
I have a Girlfriend and I am dumb and I like to giggle...
by travis-dane
in front of the mirror!travis likes chocolate pudding too.and movies with women who have big BOOBs!In superheromovies some women have big BOOBs thats why travis likes some superheromovies too.hehehegiglilig BOOBs.....
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It's true. Look around. Little baby faces with a few grey hairs and receding hairlines.
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'Cause I will...swear to God!
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Jan 17, 2008 11:29:34 AM CST
Problem isn't that the cast was young!! It's that the cast SUCKE
by evildoer
RYAN REYNOLDS IS THE FLASH!
Tom Welling IS SUPERMAN!
Christian Bale IS BATMAN!
FUCK BRANDON ROUTH, SCOTT PORTER, ARM & HAMMER, and Adam Brody!
Those guys are a fraud! A FARCE, and not what the fans want.
How can they hire a 6'5 BATMAN, a 6'0 tall Superman, and expect the fans to want to see that shit!!! Seriously guys this is just a joke! That cast was a joke, and the WB putting a stop to this movie is the best thing that could happen.
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Perfect for getting it on with a John Stewart GL.
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Being a comic book nerd from waaay back, having all these characters actually come to the screen is gold to me. Yep, some of the super hero movies are misses, but some have been spot-on, too. Yes, it IS important for the writing to be the best it can be -- but let's face it -- we're not talking deep literature here. We're talking about buff guys (and women) in tights beating the crap out of each other; essentially, Championship Wrestlers who can fly. The Justice League Movie is something that I have waited for, for a long time. This movie had lots of promise -- I'm disappointed that it's postponed. I hope it's not canceled altogether.
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I just all wrong as Superman. I have nothing against him as an actor, he's just all wrong for the part. Hopefully he's recast.
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Yaaaay!!!
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Christopher Reeve after a fire. Boy, that was funnier when he was alive. Or not.
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You know it is gonna be like Fantastic Four and just aimed for the dumb/kiddie audience...nothing wrong with movies for children, but JLA should aim hiher.
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Your routine was stupid on the Brad Renfro topic. It ain't improved any here.
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1. Christopher Reeve, 24 in 1976. Yes, and yet he looked older, and though he wasn't my favorite choice for Superman in terms of looks, he was a great actor who carried the character to places he hadn't previously been.
Lynda Carter, 24 in 1975. I"m sorry, but Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman sucked. She had only two things going for her, and we all know what they were because they were all we were looking at. Her performance was stiff, and the costume was ridiculous with its granny panties and puffy fabric. Besides, they couldn't decide whether they wanted 1940s Wonder Woman, or 1970s Wonder Woman. So this is hardly a good point of reference for Wonder Woman.
Christian Bale, 29 in 2003. Oh, yes. He may be the best of this bunch. However, He was playing Batman in the very beginning of his career, and NOT Batman after having done the superhero thing for a decade, so it was appropriate casting age-wise. On top of that, Bale is a great actor who could play older or younger with little trouble.
Brandon Routh, 25 in 2004. A crappy Superman, and not just because of the script. His entire performance was just mimicking Christopher Reeve. It was an impersonation of another actor playing HIS version of the character. Routh looked too young (Superboy, rather than Superman) and although he was excellent at playing Chris Reeve playing Superman, he didn't give us Superman as he has been portrayed in comics since the 70s. Superman is supposed to be an older, authoritarian figure who looks like he's got might AND wisdom. I wouldn't accept an under-30 Captain America, and I wouldn't accept an under-30 Superman these days, unless you were telling his origin story yet again.
I hated this cast, and frankly, the whole idea of this movie is bad. They won't make something as good as what's been put into animation because they'll compromise the characters in every way possible.
Wait and watch Marvel to see how a superhero team movie should be done, when they crank out AVENGERS, which I predict will be closer to ULTIMATES than classic 616 Avengers. -
One look at Routh and you think "Superman". Same for Bale as Bruce Wayne and the others. But this JLA cast? NOT A CHANCE. I don't care how old they are ... they look like a low-rent OC rip-off. Not a one looks like they are perfect for their part. NOT. A. ONE. Best thing that can happen is they kill this movie. Or cast Routh as Superman, Bale as Batman and recast those other parts.
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He has the potential to be even better if Singer can leave the ghosts of Donner and Reeve out of the sequel. I agree he borrowed some aspects from Reeve but it wasn't a complete rip-off and I think most of what he did borrow was due to the script and Singer's direction. Any guy willing to pack on 60 pounds of muscle for the role obviously takes the character seriously and I really want to see Routh in a sequel where he can do more of his own thing.
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These are iconic heros. Look at it this way:
Superman = a near living god amongst us.
Batman = the penultimate of human physical and mental conditioning and will.
Wonder Woman = The distance of the immortal ancient gods from those they once oversaw and who have forgotten them.
Green Lantern = The power and possibility of the human imagination.
Flash = well, he's flash. He's the fastest man alive... cool in-and-of itself.
Manhunter = the unbiased view of what we as mankind look like through eyes not our own.
My point is this... Actors who play on television shows devoted to teens and tweens, who are more used to being pampered for their looks than their ability, and who look young enough to be a side kick, do NOT need to play icons. Seriously people, kill it. Let it die. Let WB get over their ego and let Dini have this script. Get another director who won't cast children. And actors who will embody these characters, not just loosely inhabit their costumes like my kid in under-roos running around saying, "I'm Batman."
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at least they got a broad with big knockers to play ww tho.....
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his haircut and outfit made him look like he wanted to be sprayed with man- gravy..
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you're an ignorant, stupid fuck. go ass fuck yourself with a broken bat.
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sorry, you're not an ignorant stupid fuck...your brother is.
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Perfectly fucking executed, man. Perfect.
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It would have been a fun movie. And that's all that matters. Sometimes AICN Talkbackers can be pretty pathetic. Screaming blue murder about something they know nothing about. None of you what was planned.
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There needs to be a Superman/Batman crossover before there is a JLA movie. THe 2 characters are too important to share a team up with 5 other characters.
I would really like to see Batman and Superman in the same film, treated realisticly. A vigilante meeting an alien. One uses peace to inspire, the other uses terror to intimidate.
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Yes? No?
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your brother should be forced to read Geoff Johns' Green Lantern comics before talking shit about DC.
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look at what he did to megatron- no respect for the source.
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Wow! How could I not have seen THAT coming? I mean, it's only about the thirtieth time you've said it in two days, right? Even Henny Youngman told more than one joke.
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Give me just batman, Superman is lame, and so is the JLA!
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If you want a quality flick, its better to wait.
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connery was 32 while filming Dr. No, Lazenby was 29 at OHMSS. different lifestyles, nutrition.
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Is Justice League actually good? It seems kind of preposterous.
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is absolute realism.
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wait for it. Soon.
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Comic nerds growing old.
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i'm 13 14 because I read Green Lantern comics? are you retarded? i'm early 20's.
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Even their rumored Maxwell Lord casting looked like a teenager. BTW, Batman Begins was 2005 and Superman Returns was 2006. Get it right. I still wish we could have seen a Joss Whedon Wonder Woman, or at least find out why the idiots at the studio didn't go for it. For once I seem to be in the majority here that are glad this JLA movie is on the rocks and think they should build up to a JLA movie with solo movies first, not the other way around. That's how it happened in the comics (for the most part). The only reasons to go their current route are impatience and greed. Not that I expect a movie studio to give a shit about artistic integrity. Having said that, Megan Gale would have had a great Wonder Woman look. Whether she could act or not is a different story. Something tells me that even if her option runs out, she'll still be available if they ever do this.
Oh, and I'd like to run out her option! badabing! -
Word...
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Nobody gives a flying fuck!!
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Returns was a GREAT movie, taking us back to Superman's roots...Can't wait for the sequel...Can JLA!!!
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I knew it wasn't going to.
BTW - boyblue, you are an idiot. A great many people care about Green Lantern comics. Isn't it funny how some schmucks can waggle their tongues without knowing what they're talking about. -
So, eat it.
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