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Who Will Be The Next Studdard Or Barrino Or Soul-Patrol Guy?? AMERICAN IDOL & Seacrest Thunder Back To Fox Airwaves!!

Published at: Jan. 15, 2008, 9:09 p.m. CST by hercules

I am – Hercules!! Is the promise of the contestants playing their own instruments enough to draw us in? Is it really worth sitting through the warbling of all those self-satisfied little Christina Aguilera aspirants to get to the freak-show contestants? “Idol” has been the number-one series on TV since 2005, so you know the best stuff will blanket “Kimmel” and “Leno” and “Stern” and “The Soup” and “Chelsea Lately” and “Extra” and “Entertainment Tonight” and “TMZ” and “Reality Remix” and “Best Week Ever” and the “Bill O’Reilly Why You Shouldn’t Believe Phony Movie Stars Minute” anyway. Still, you have to pity the competition in these script-starved months. What kind of audience can those fresh episodes of “According To Jim” and “One Tree Hill” and “NCIS” hope to draw in the shadow of Fox’s winter-spring juggernaut? Bandwidth. Predictions. Reactions. 8 p.m. Tuesday & Wednesday. Fox.

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  • Jan. 15, 2008, 12:26 a.m. CST

    screw the haters! i can't wait!

    by frankenfickle

    and when i say "i can't wait" i mean "who gives a crap and why is this on aicn."

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST

    I gave up early on last year.

    by Shermdawg

    Sanjaya alone wasn't worth watching. <br><br> The best season overall is still season five. Daughtry, the "Thank You" girl, Chicken Little, MacPhee's tits, Pickler being adorable, that white Ray Charles impressionist who ended up winning, and multiple appearances of... <br><br> UNSOCIABLE FUCKING HAMMER!!!

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 12:52 a.m. CST

    This Show Needs An Enema

    by Stacy Without An E

    When television historians take the time to look back upon the history of "American Idol" they will look to last season as the beginning of the end for the show. The talent pool has become too shallow to even believe another Carrie Underwood or Daughtry can be found. But because of the continuing Writer's Strike and scripted programming becoming scarcer, I have no doubt this show will unfortunately rebound. "A little Seacrest is too much Seacrest." - Dick Clark, 2007

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 1:06 a.m. CST

    New "According to Jim?"

    by zacdilone

    That deal with Satan really paid off for the younger Belushi.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 1:16 a.m. CST

    I cant wait to see pussies cry

    by Mezzanine

    Oh wait, yes I can. I have a life.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 1:42 a.m. CST

    Stern will air audio of the good bits on Wednesday

    by AlwaysThere

    And I'll catch the visuals on The Soup on Friday.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 2:36 a.m. CST

    Oh brother.......

    by closeencounter

    Another season of this shit while a show like Journeyman dies off. I won't be wasting electrons on this crap. Yes, I hate it. Deal with it.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 3:02 a.m. CST

    I think you have it backwards, Herc

    by Mazzle

    Most people who enjoy the show HATE the exploitive, reality-tv, highlight the freaks portion of the initial episodes. The people who actually generate AI's insane ratings watch the show to see who does well. The people who don't really like the show seem to focus on the freak stuff. <br><br> I happen to like AI, but I'd rather see more Journeyman. *sigh*

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 4:12 a.m. CST

    First 2 weeks of "Idol" is the funniest stuff on TV

    by TallBoy66

    When it becomes a competition for a pop idol, who gives a shit, but people bombing one after another = gold! Thats why the ratings kick ass for the season openers, because it's awesome. Contest sucks, but people failing is funny.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 5:17 a.m. CST

    This is neither cool

    by Jor-El23

    nor is it news.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 6:59 a.m. CST

    apparently American Idol > Dexter (on AICN)

    by turketron

    What the fuck? Does this shit show need a talkback? While a great show from last fall went without one, while many of us moaned about it for every week that it was on in other talkbacks. Well, I guess you'll have another chance to piss us off when it comes to CBS *gag*. <p><p>Now that I've got that out of my system, maybe I'll watch the first 2 weeks of this shit show. They're the only ones I can stomach because they're full of funny failing people, as TallBoy66 said. The rest of the season is just full of plain fail.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 9:02 a.m. CST

    American Idol = Reality TV - "Backstabbing Drama"

    by Losteroo

    I don't really mind American Idol too much, as far as reality shows go. In fact it's the only Reality Show I actually will watch. After the first batch of weeks with the auditions, it's pretty much a music show. The reason why I separate it from the rest of the reality show is bacause it isn't another Real World clone...meaning there aren't backstabbings, private confessions, "she's out to destroy me" type crap that has been the staple of reality TV since Real World 1. Plus (and this is a big bonus too) I have a one year old, and this is something my wife and I can watch without getting worried about anything too nasty (unless you count bad performers). Anyway, I see why reality shows get roasted, but this is a little different than the majority of reality shows out there.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 10:05 a.m. CST

    I agree Losteroo

    by jsm1978

    It is nice not to have to deal with that stuff. I watch the show, but don't get too crazy about it, although I know many people who can't stand to miss an episode. I like the beginning and seeing all the bad singers, and then the end when it should be down to the best of the best. The middle part I don't care about so much.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 10:46 a.m. CST

    American Idol is back..let the anarchy begin!

    by Mr Incredible

    Last year, we almost got Sanjaya to the top and Cowell vowed to quit if a no-talent hack like Sanjaya won. Let's make it a reality and once again give America a civics lesson on how "democracy" works. The truth behind this crappy show: http://www.votefortheworst.com/ Help put an end to this "talent" show.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 11:32 a.m. CST

    I only watch the first episodes....

    by Francis Begbie

    To watch peoples dreams and hopes get crushed, so I don't feel alone.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 11:35 a.m. CST

    The WHOLE SHOW

    by ArcadianDS

    needs to be the three judges crushing the hopes and dreams of 268 pound 13 year olds who think they're the next American Pop Idol.<p> And the competition needs to have more Japanese game show elements. If they dont choose you for Hollywood, then you have to run trough a 2 foot mud trench being chased by men in giant foam rubber microphone costumes. Oh and one samurai at the end with a foam sword that knocks the teeth out of your face if you bust through the wrong paper door.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 11:52 a.m. CST

    I wish this show were dead.

    by DarthCorleone

    That would make a decent Terminator spoof. Send a machine back in time to stop this crap from being created.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 2:55 p.m. CST

    I though God sent his only Son to be crucified

    by Quin the Eskimo

    to spare us this garbage.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 3:16 p.m. CST

    I feel sorry for all of the dogs in the neighborhood

    by DarthFloyd

    While I don't watch this show (IMO - It's total crap), I can hear all of the dogs in the neighborhood whining and howling as their ears are continually assulted by the worst noises found on television. From the host, judges and singers voices, the poor creatures beg to stop hearing what they think is a wounded animal that needs to be put out of it's misery. I agree with DarthCorleone...send a killing machine back to stop this abomination of a show from being created!

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 3:43 p.m. CST

    VoteForTheWorst

    by tme2nsb

    Time after time is proven not to work. The American public (which is that who loves the Wii) vote for who is good. Simple as that. I just hope we get another Chris Daughtry out of this season.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Also

    by tme2nsb

    Why do people hate it so much? I mention American Idol at work any everyone is like "It's teh gay" - why? Because the winners actually can (for the most part) actually sing? It's the funniest show on the air when auditions are going on the first 4 to 6 weeks...and then it becomes a high class Star Search after that. It's not different than voting for president, but again, that really isn't saying much. The show has never been rigged, because then Daughtry would have been the official winner two seasons ago, and Blake Lewis' rippoff shit from last year wouldn't have been on television so long. See BT.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    And again

    by tme2nsb

    Why do people hate this show so much? Give a real reason please.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 5:52 p.m. CST

    What wacky things will Paula Abdul do this year

    by skywalkerfamily

    She always looks stoned.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 7:15 p.m. CST

    What wacky thing WON'T Paula Abdul do? is more like it.

    by Pennsy

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 7:29 p.m. CST

    Fuck the haters....

    by Mr. Profit

    I have been watching this show since I flipped the channel years ago and caught Ryan Starr singing "The Frim Fram Sauce" and got hooked. The show works because for the most part, the finalists can sing very well. I don't understand the backlash that the show gets with regards to the contestants "not paying their dues" because most famous singers today wouldn't get past the first round due to their lack of vocal skill. While I hate Gaykin, Hicks, Studdard, Sparks, and Lewis, we always get some real talent like Daughtry, Clarkson, Yamin, and Underwood.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 9:40 p.m. CST

    Not Hate, Just Truth - the Results are mostly Crapola

    by crankyoldguy

    Used to hate Simon because he wouldn't know rock'n'roll it bashed up upside his limey head. But he's better than bullshit glad-hander Jackson and twit-tit Abdul. While Seacrest is a faggot and this is not gay-bashing, it's a whole different thing to call him that. He needs to be beaten up for his mega-lunch money. He's a lucky idiot - I know because I've met him a few times and even worked with him years back. Clarkson turned out to be the only real "artist" to come out of all of it. Everything else is hype/sell. Face it, it's crapola music, encourages oversinging and even when there are "rock" or other genre types outside of "pop," we get a what, a Daughtry, who is terrible. I've seen the future of twee dung and it arrived with this program's era. And the finalists can sing very well? I've seen, even reviewed some of the tours. Most of them should be happy to get work performing at theme parks or on cruise ships. Double-ugh and then some.

  • Jan. 15, 2008, 10:32 p.m. CST

    Jordin Sparks or Antonella Barba on background marquee

    by cromwell1666

    Im assuming since the background art behind the singers is covered with past winners that that was the image of Jordin Sparks prevalent in most of the shots tonight. However, when I saw it, all I saw was Antonella Barba. Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

  • Jan. 16, 2008, 6:21 a.m. CST

    So now we're doing acronyms?

    by Napoleon Park

    Anti-Cool News.

  • Jan. 16, 2008, 12:24 p.m. CST

    by FilmNerdJamie

    Lost all interest in IDOL after Season 5. Haven't sat through a full episode since because...frankly we've seen all this before. Simon's insults will cause "shock and outrage" as if he's never said anything remotely negative on Idol before. Paula acts like a jackass for the billionth time and the question will arise (yet again), "Is Paula on drugs?" as if that's never been asked before. And once again, there will be an out-right horrible singer who goes further than he/she deserves and a singer who everyone loves and proclaims as "the sure thing to win" will be voted off in a "huge IDOL stunner!" And...yet again, everyone will act like this has never happened before on IDOL. I'm sorry...just tired of this show...

  • Jan. 16, 2008, 2:23 p.m. CST

    Holy Lord

    by haggardatbest

    This was the first episode of this show I've ever watched, but if I'd known I'd be treated to such people as the insane glitterbitch, I would have seen every show by now. What a trainwreck.

  • Jan. 16, 2008, 3:28 p.m. CST

    This just in: worst TV premier in 10 years

    by ArcadianDS

    horray American Idol for another television milestone.<p> Or should that be millstone? Your sense of humor may vary. I'm available for paying gigs.

  • Jan. 16, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST

    glitterbitch was epic

    by smackfu

    normally I'm rather attracted to insane, broken women but Glitterbitch had a sort of disturbing braindamaged redneck vibe to her. I can't even guess what kind of drug a person would have to be on to go into that kind of a rant.

  • Jan. 16, 2008, 5:35 p.m. CST

    Glitterbitch

    by haggardatbest

    The best part about her was that they didn't even really insult her that badly. They told her they liked her 60's vibe and that she should start a band and she went apey. Love it.

  • Jan. 16, 2008, 7:50 p.m. CST

    smackfu

    by Burgundy82

    Dude... she looked like Willem Dafoe.

  • Jan. 16, 2008, 9:01 p.m. CST

    I AM YOUR BROTHER!!!!

    by TallBoy66

    Together until the end of time!!! That guy was awesome. Why didn't he go to Hollywood.

  • Jan. 16, 2008, 9:50 p.m. CST

    TallBoy66

    by KarmicRelief

    I still have that damn song stuck in my head. Guaranteed, someone will record that dude, ala William Hung. Funniest thing I've ever seen on the show.

  • Jan. 17, 2008, 6:53 a.m. CST

    The Gong Show > American Idol

    by Grammaton Cleric Binks

    and Chuck Barris can kick Simon's ass.

  • Jan. 17, 2008, 2:17 p.m. CST

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAP3ZdXeWAk

    by TallBoy66

    Best performance of 08, bar none, of "You Are My Brother" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAP3ZdXeWAk

  • Jan. 17, 2008, 4:47 p.m. CST

    That Princess Leia was a bitch

    by skywalkerfamily

    Carrie Fisher was never that bitchy.

  • Jan. 17, 2008, 11:38 p.m. CST

    American Idol--full of plants; so much for "new talent"

    by Mr Incredible

    Read it and weep: http://tinyurl.com/37g7pp Yeah, it's time for this crap to go.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 1:31 p.m. CST

    It must be said, Kristy from Oregon...

    by Ray Garraty #47

    ...is a stone fox. MMA training, rides horses, blonde...WOW

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Mr Incredible, the gargantuan monster...

    by Lenny Nero

    ...that is the American Idol fanbase is so large that VoteForTheWorst has a fraction of an effect on the competition. Next you'll be trying to tell me that Cloverfield is Voltron.

  • Jan. 18, 2008, 9:35 p.m. CST

    Nero, you are so late to the party

    by Mr Incredible

    #1: The "Cloverfield is Voltron" is about as tired as "It's a lion!", and # 2: So what if the American Ido fanbase is large. To be honest, it's a damn shame, considering more people of voting age give a shit about who's going to win this crap than who they will be voting for in the next election. I look at sabotaging this show as amusement. Besides, look how far Sanjaya got. It wasn't just a "fraction" that propelled his sorry ass to near winning. Open phone lines = asking for trouble and deserving it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:46 a.m. CST

    I'll get to your other points later...

    by Lenny Nero

    ...but if you even give half a damn about understanding Idol, Sanjaya was propelled by teenage girls and soccer moms because of his boyishness and his unthreatening air, just like Clay but with less chops. And so help me God, I knew you were going to bring up Sanjaya. <p>Seriously, though, the reader based of votefortheworst is so absolutely minuscule that they don't even count as a blip on the radar. I am dead serious. <p>And my "Cloverfield is Voltron" was meant to evoke old news, because that's how I felt about you bringing up that website, hence the joke. I didn't realize it was unclear.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST

    "The reader BASE..."

    by Lenny Nero

    Sigh...talkbacking mixed with gin and tonic.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 9:08 a.m. CST

    Still don't get it, do you, Nero?

    by Mr Incredible

    Thanks for the cheapshot about my spelling, like I'm the first one to ever misspell a word on this site.Yes, I brought up Sanjaya because he was the perfect example of how empty that show is, and the perfect solution to ridiculing it. There were more than just teens and soccer moms voting for that clown. How naive are you? You obviously didn't READ my previous posts. You obviously didn't go by the website to read what's behind Idol's current season. You don't HAVE to go by the Vote for The Worst website to hate American Idol. They may not have a lot of "readers", but they do have the inside news on the truth about that show, and it's good to be informed, but you don't seem to want to hear about that . But if you want to keep drinking Idol's poison and lies, be my guest. I am dead serious in that. Drink poison and die. You deserve it.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:10 a.m. CST

    Mr. Incredible, it was a cheap shot...

    by Lenny Nero

    ...about MY spelling. What the hell? Am I in some bizarro universe? That's two things about me that you thought were tags at you. Same with your posts. I am baffled by this conversation, and I seriously doubt you actually watch this show. It's like you're attacking points you think I'm going to make as opposed to actually hitting on what I'm saying. Like it or not, this show affects American culture, and that's the point I'm trying to make. Anyone with an internet connection knew about the info on that site ages ago. I went to your links, I read your posts, and now I'm just confused by the entries you make. Somebody get me out of here!

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:13 a.m. CST

    Seriously, though, Mr Incredible,

    by Lenny Nero

    I can't possibly talk to you when you fly off the handle like that. I'm trying to say something and you're spewing bile. Please talk to me like an actual respectful human being. And I mean it when I say you're yelling at the wrong person about the wrong things.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    Do you get my point, Nero?

    by Mr Incredible

    It wasn't fun to be used or manipulated, was it? That's what Fox is doing with the audience of this show. Wake up, look behind the scenes, and tell me if they don't think you're stupid. It's harsh, but "reality". I'm done. Have a nice day.

  • Jan. 19, 2008, 11:57 a.m. CST

    Mr Incredible, now it's time for some insults...

    by Lenny Nero

    ...you petulant bully. Any good AI viewer knows that the talent is not entirely undiscovered. I can't even tell you how many people in past seasons have been "discovered" under your definition. The point is, they are technically have no professional album out when they are on the show, and are "undiscovered" by the general public. The show has always had these people, and making an outcry because of this is just so five years ago. <p>I have no idea what you mean about being used or manipulated (there's that weird bizarro world I feel whenever I talk to you), and I also don't get why you have such venom for a goddamn singing contest. Did it rape your mother? People are entirely capable at looking past some of the bullshit of the show and seeing it for what it truly is: a fascinating study of American public. I can tell you with about 90% certainty who will be going home each week, and it's not because it fixed or there are plants or some bullshit like that: it's because I've learned from the show how crazy the fans are. I knew exactly how far Sanjaya was going to get, because this is a country that has made Britney Spears a megastar. <p>But to call it poison is silly. It's a completely inoffensive show, it's not some Orwellian BS where you are forced to watch it and when you get down to it, if you listen to any kind of Top 40 radio, it will affect your future. <p>My point is that you are so late to the party (using your words) about the same shit people bring up season after season about a REALITY SHOW that it's just so completely inane. I hated "Friends," but I didn't go out of my way to try to make it any less fun for those who watch it, because really, what's the point in that? That's somebody who used to set ants on fire when they were six just for the hell of it. <p>Now do you want to talk like an adult, or are you going to drink your own poison and continue being the killjoy asshole you're coming off as?

  • Jan. 20, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST

    Mr Incredible, you coward.

    by Lenny Nero

    Pop culture anarchist. You probably spit on birthday cakes.

  • Jan. 22, 2008, 10:09 a.m. CST

    Nero, you are a whiny little bitch.

    by Mr Incredible

    Most of the posts on this talkback HATE American Idol. I'm to be in fear of you calling me a coward? Don't make me laugh. I had better things to do than respond to your crybaby bullshit. You want a response after I played you like a fiddle? Go watch your dog and pony show and lose a few brain cells while you're at it. I'm beginning to think you are Clay Aiken. Mr. Spork had it right. Done and out forever with this.

  • Jan. 22, 2008, 11:38 a.m. CST

    You didn't read one iota of my post.

    by Lenny Nero

    It was reasonable and well-intentioned, and then you disappeared like every other asshole on this site who has a grudge. Pop culture anarchist. I brought up counterpoints, and you ignored them. That, my friend, is the sign of an immature troll. I should get the guys to ban your ass. Read my post and understand that you have done more to underestimate the AI audience than the show ever did. You must hate people.

  • Jan. 22, 2008, 11:39 a.m. CST

    And I still have no idea...

    by Lenny Nero

    ...how you think you played me like a fiddle. You said something, I made an argument in my favor, you backed down, and then ended up saying nothing but insults with no source. Great. Yeah, you're a winner in the eyes of fascism.

  • Jan. 22, 2008, 12:34 p.m. CST

    You "have better things to do..."

    by Lenny Nero

    You had enough time to administer poorly reasoned attacks at the show and believe that you were "manipulating me" or some bullshit like that, but you don't have enough time to actually respond to rational points in an adult fashion and actually reevaluate what you think you know about the show? Yeah, I didn't think so. Have fun being an unloved misanthrope.