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Romero unleashes the DIARY OF THE DEAD trailer!
Hey folks, Harry here - George Romero has unleashed from his Myspace page - the first trailer for DIARY OF THE DEAD. This will be a new beginning for Romero's Zombie mythology - some will hate it, others will love it - I loved it - many in Toronto did the same. And apparently we're getting a sequel that picks up right where this one leaves off. Here's George...
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Posted on AICN. Went to bed. The end.
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Was the only person to actually write anything in the comment box.
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I talked to several friends that attended Screamfest here in Hollywood and they say the crowd absolutely despised it. During the later films several people could be heard in the lobby asking one another-- what the fuck was up with Diary?
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on top of the ball, as always.
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First person to actually watch the video before commenting. Looks a lot tike cloverfield ^^.
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that`s all.
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they just had to put that bit in at the end. You know the flash of horror right before the credits. When will they stop putting that in? It's so fucking predictable!
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Jeeze..now a zombie film?
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The title makes me think of a zombie sitting at a typewriter fumbling away with their unlife story. Instead of typewriter sounds forming the score during the film, we can have chewing sounds. I'm in.
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you know, I've been coming to AICN for many many years and there is never a shortage of doofuses like you. I saw this on my girlfriend's dentist's dog groomers blog like 3 hours ago. Ain't it OLD NEWS!! DERRRRR....."some of us don't spend hours a day perusing every nerdy fucking fansite looking for every up to the minute exclusive. some of us don't even go to Chud, since looking at the website (which I believe was designed by a blind, drunk teenager) makes us physically sick.some of us just come here. because if something is important enough that I should care, it will be here. and if it's (pause for a huge gasp) 3 days after it was available on imhardforzombies.com well, I couldn't possibly care less.people like you offering their 2 cents over and over and over and over anytime AICN is perceived as being behind by a day, it's so fucking boring.stay in the Lost talkbacks, please...
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Like Saving Private Ryan but instead of Nazi's, it's zombies!
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I keed I keed. And Mysterious Yobo, you sir are why Hollywood never makes anything original.
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yup.
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This series has really lost its icon status.
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"Today I was pompous, and my sister was crazy." Today we were taken by hill folk, never to be seen again... it was the best day ever!"
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yup.
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I could go any other site and see it 16 minutes earlier, but I like coming here. Aside from the great look and feel to the page, the info is always reliable (or at least I haven't been misled yet), and you meet some cool in the talkback (or if you're like me start an unnecessary argument and end up making an idiot of yourself-Sorry again Xiphos).
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I almost never log in to comment anymore, but I just had to say I couldn't agree more with you. Well said.
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I mean it looks better than Land of the Dead for sure. I'm just a big geek for the idea of this film in general. For example, around 1998 I worked as a loss prevention agent at this really big department store.The job sucked except for watching the closed circut camera's .There were like twenty five or thirty of them and they were in black in white. I always thought how freaky it would be if I was looking around the store one night and saw some zombie motherfucker staggering around. I know thats dumb,but in my opinion the zombie genre is just a perfect fit for this new style of film making. I guess i'll hold out on judging until I get to see it. When is that by the way?
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Ironic, no? I'm a huge Romero fan, have been for probably 20+ of my 32 years (yes, for that long...my parents took me to see ALIEN). I'm a bit hesitant about the POV style filmmaking, but I'm pretty confident in Romero's intelligence and abilities. And the fact that LAND OF THE DEAD was a bit better than DAY OF THE DEAD said something important to me -- seeing this old dog come back with a lot of energy is really exciting for me. I haven't heard many bad things about this yet -- more high praise than anything neg at all. And I think the Toronto Film Festival crowd is more interesting to hear from than some thing called Screamfest (isn't that at Great American/Six Flags? Sheesh...). I will also admit I preferred DEATH PROOF over PLANET TERROR. So there.
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Those glasses were stolen right out from under Marty S.'s nose.
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I am almost never the guy ripping on a movie, b/c I try real hard to give myself over to whatever it is that i am watching. But there is absolutely no love in this film. From the performances to the screenplay to the stylistic plagiarism, it feels like an actively disinterested cash-in by a bitter old man who has forgotten what it was to care. I felt genuinely sad and equally frustrated after having left the theater. A formerly great filmmaker cannot accidentally make a film this bad. He has to have undergone a legitimate corruption of his spirit. There is no more George Romero.
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I caught it at a horror fest a couple of months ago. No one wanted to love this movie more than me. But it's unspeakably bad. The concept is brilliant, the execution is atrocious. Cliche characters, laughable dialogue, clumsy "shock" scenes... Even the whole blogging aspect is really sketchy, like Romero has only a vague sense of the whole thing. His "social commentary" is hamfisted at best. It's not scary, it's not smart, it's not good. There's exactly one interesting character in the entire movie, and he's played for comic relief in one sequence and gone. Diary is a crushing disappointment in every way. I wish I could go back in time and un-watch it, so I wouldn't have the memory of watching Romero jump the shark burned into my brain. You'll probably see it anyway, but be forewarned -- don't even expect Land.
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Does anybody remember the days when shaky camera movies were all underground and cool? It was a new fresh and very real style to hit cinema and I loved it. I think the first signs of deterioration came with Greengrass' Bourne Supremacy. Far too much darting back and forth. Almost made me sick. Physically sick. Now the once great style is on every street corner. They're saturating the market, just like they're doing with those CGI movies they keep fucking making for kids, involving some fucking penguin or goat or some other piece of shit. Grrr
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"Or this would only be a 20 minute movie!"
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Screw all other Zombies.
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"...okay, now kill my friend dramatically!"
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fight to the death...or undeath
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If these guys saw something interesting three days ago that wasn't here they can always email it to the staff here or post it in a talkback.
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what is the release date? please?
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In the theater. But, beyond that, this movie will have to be really something to convince me that Romero didn't just become a hack sometime in the '80s. I seriously haven't liked a thing he's done since the first Creepshow. 27 years is one hell of a dry spell.
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Dunno about you guys, but I've been waiting to see this movie much longer then "Cloverfield" So even though I'm seeing that on its release, I shall too see Diary of The Dead. Why, Because I love of the dead films. Period. Hell The Revenge of The Dead series was the shit for me too. You guys need to stop taking it so seriously and take it for what it is. A good GAR film.
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At this rate, I'll never be scared again. I'll be too sick.
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and its a blatant rip off of Cloverfiled, but instead of Cloverfields there are zombies, and another snarky comment about Blair Witch, and First.
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Jan 14, 2008 5:08:34 PM CST
Guy with camera says "Well, at least it aint a giant lizard. THA
by mike_d
"First a giant fish monster, now zombies?! Good thing this is an HD camera!"
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Get it? Bite? HAHAHAHAHA! No seriously, I love Romero's zombie flicks, especially the first three, (I loved LOTD too, but not as much as the original three) so I'll support this. Hope its good. How can you not give props to Romero? He's the godfather of hardcore zombie apocalypse gore!
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I notice most of the people blasting Diary seem too just love Land of the Dead. LOD was garbage all the way through, because of the studio cuffs that Romero had on him making it. Diary may not be fresh and Romero might have glasses so thick he can see into the future, but I bet it's better than Land of the Dead.
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It's not that we're taking it too seriously. This isn't just some kid that made a movie with his buddies. This is Romero. Zombies would've faded out a long time ago if it wasn't for him (although I will say my favorite z movie of all time is Zombie Flesh Eaters. It kicks ass). But it's awful to see someone like him doing the same thing over and over again. Now I haven't seen this. I'm only going off the trailer. And when this comes out, I'm gonna give it a chance like I think everyone should. But at the end of the day, I'm still gonna have reservations about an oldschool filmmaker trying to kick it in modern day.
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That beginning part with the riots and the fire coming out of the buildings was cool! I loved the very beginning of the Dawn of the Dead remake. It was spectacular and made me think that I was in for a real treat...then it just sorta trailed off into another ordinary zombie movie. I hope this doesn't just trail off...
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What? LOD was great! No Dawn but it could've been much worse. Leguizamo!!! Leguizamo!!! Hopper!!! Hopper!!! I'm a bastard for classics and it's my firm belief that horror movies died in 1993, but even I was entertained by Land. Cmon' man...
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...George Romero's 'Should Have Gone To Specsavers'!
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It could make a GREAT cable miniseries too. Way too much going on in it to be a single movie.
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...oh, fuck you too.
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Which one is better?, I kinda liked "The Zombie Diaries". Isn't this pretty much the same story?? News crew, finding zombies, etc. etc.
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RIPOFF.
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Now With 50% more zombie moles!
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And what's with the Harry Caray glasses?
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I mean maybe Romero, Leguizamo and Hopper blindsighted me from the silliness of the story. I'd hate to think my judgement could be clouded just because it's Romero. At the end of the day it was a movie. Not exactly mind-blowing and nowhere as good a social commentary as the previous installments, but I thought it was good enough. I thought it was better than Day. Actually no I take that back. Day was good
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that doesn't change the fact that this is old news. Ain't it?
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Bets that the end of the movie will be the dead documentarist, now a zombie, shooting aspects of his life as one of the undead? Like Bub and his salute, he'll just keep pressin record until he runs outta power, and the damn camera breaks. Then he'll go interview the Hari-Krishna zombie from Dawn?????
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I'm just curious why you're still here if we're 8 milliseconds too slow for you.
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Shaky cam Wizard of Oz?
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really you guys are losing the plot entirely
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god damnit land of the dead was awful, I hope this wont be anywhere near as awful but my guess is, it will be
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Jan 14, 2008 5:53:09 PM CST
Romero looks great, and hilarious. His movie, not so much.
by samsquanch
It could just be the trailer, but ignoring the shakey-cam gimmick for a second, hasn't the man already made this movie? Like, three times already?
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And Henry Kissinger watched!
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. . . It's unfortunate that 'Cloverfield' beat it to theaters. I think it's going to look like a rip-off, unfortunately, because people don't know this was done first. It may not be NOTLD-caliber great, but it can't be worse than any of the mainstream studio zombie flicks we've been getting (Shaun of the Dead is exempt, of course).
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Can Romero see people's souls with those glasses?
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I love how some 300 pound zombie who died of heart disease comes back to life doing wind sprints and running down healthy living humans.
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ADAM WEST FTW!
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yeah, already... look it up. N E WAYZ
I didnt get much from the trailer than SHAKY SHAKY CAMERA LOL, SHAKY CAMERA LOL LOL, SCARE YOU YES? SHAKY CAEMRA.
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Gotta agree with LaserPants (and you know, how many times in real life to I get to say something like, "Gotta agree with LaserPants"?)
I read WWZ over holiday and it was great. Also agree that it would be hard to do as a single movie. I'd rather see it as a 4 hour mini-series on SciFi. Get Ron Moore and it would really rock. As it is, I think Paramount bought it for Brad Pitt's company to develop. Ah well, I'll always have my enjoyment of the book... -
Too many zombie movies.
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Hey, I love Romero, liked Land of the Dead, will even pay to see a sequel of that. Not too sure about this one. The Blair Zombie Project? Sorry dude, the world's coming to an end I'm dropping the camera and running. Maybe this will work, but who knows. I'll probably see it, but I don't think I'll go in with the same enthusiasm I had for Land of the Dead.
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...which isn't good because prior to reading the largely juvenile crap on here I was hovering around Forrest Gump's IQ. Blast!
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It looks good.
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from the first Resident Evil. Remember the black one in the office clothes. She was only in it for a second but....I'd do her/it.
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thought i saw a few in there. well since he decided they can think (a retarded idea) now he can admit fast zombies kick ass. whatever, i dont consider Romero to be the be all and end all of zombies. sorry.
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Blair Witch approach? Gimme a break. We've seen this a billion times over already! Well not as a Godzilla movie- that sounds awesome. This sounds like a limp dick....(or rather feels like one.)
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Holy shit! Serious??
Fucking hell!
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I saw it in Toronto and it's a very strong horror film. Have faith, Romero delivers.
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I just realized. I watched Pulp Fiction last night! No joke! That's fucking weird...
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branching out - enough with the zombies - we get it - you are the king of zombie movies - spielberg is the king of shark movies - but he makes more than just shark movies - hes moved on - george should too - "knight riders" demonstrated that he can - that was over 20 years ago - i bet this new "dead" movie wasnt even his idea - but the studio nabbed him for the job of directing - "land of the dead" shouldve put this series to sleep - it sure put me to sleep - i smell a trend - the year of "hand held cam" genre movies - next up - a "hand held cam" sports comedy - then a drama full of "crate & barrel" shoppers
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the trailer doesn't exactly make the movie come off as horrendous, not does it brilliant.
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is becoming another van damme - as in - hes a talented guy who nearly broke big (2 smoking barrels/transporter) but is now on a steady path to straight-to-video junk - he should be in a zombie movie - a good one - where hes a hero - karate chopping them and all - but gets bit and turns into one
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We all fuck up and do stupid, whether we're sweeping floors or directing movies. Personally I've had more respect for those who make an awful piece of cinema but stick to their guns and hold their heads high. You only have to look at the life and times of Robert Evans. Wikipedia him. It'll explain better than me.
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Jan 14, 2008 7:55:31 PM CST
I hate movies where people have to act like they're not acting
by wolfmannards
This is also why I won't see "cloverfield" and hated "Blair Witch Project" Tuck the angst and cool back into your assholes.
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lucas made "thx1138" - which remains one of the best sci fi movies ever - and consider when it was made (late 1960s) it took some balls to make it - but he also made "howard the duck" - yet i dont think one turd doesnt mean the diamond was just luck - same with romero - if hes only making one movie every few years before he dies i wish they werent all zombie flicks - or at least really surprise us - how about a period zombie movie - elizabethan zombies? - cowboy zombies? - or a small group of zombies fighting off the encroaching living
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Jan 14, 2008 8:06:29 PM CST
Ok fellow TBs tell me what you think of my submission
by allpowerfulwizardofoz
http://tinyurl.com/2twa7z
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It's all over the web like a goddamn rash!
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What is happening to this site? this was posted everywhere else days ago. This site used to be the best of the best, now its barely updated and i dont think people here even care anymore. I hope you guys can get back on the ball.
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You know, the Spanish BWP zombie flick. I'm sure that "Diary of the Dead" won't come even close to it. Just like "Land of the Dead" was really weak compared to the "Dawn" remake. Can't say that I'm looking forward to the [REC] remake, though. It's called "Quarantined", btw.
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for the general viewer who likes zombie movies.Look up the movies he did between "DAY" and "LAND",nothing at the B.O. right?And dont you think his take on Resident Evil would have been 1000times better then Andersons?He is the one true zombie master(he invented the thing as we know it today).It is his curse!As the Dawn remake made money,everybody wanted a new Romero zombie movie and thank the lord we got it(watch all 4 movies in a row and you see he is still on top of the zombie game)!So anybody who has seen "Diaries" and does not like it,is fine with me,but I have not seen it and many other TB`s neither.I will give old George my money and my time because he made some of the best Horror movies ever and deserves that I see for myself!Thats all.
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Could have been a bit darker and really push the social commentary a bit harder. As such, it comes off pretty lightweight next to Dawn of the Dead.
I don't like the idea of Diary of the Dead. Would much prefer to see a final dead movie with all the survivors from the last few films in one last stand. Or watch the world finally go to hell. Kind of like I am Legend with balls. -
from the point but I have a question.
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Are all horror movies now going to be "documented" with P.O.V. shaky-cam footage? Can't wait for the Dracula retelling...
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Just wanted you to know.
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At least now. Old Romero = Good Romero. New Romero = Dogshit.
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I thought it really complimented the book. Plus it had that dark Romero twist to it, which I liked.
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Seems DIARY was filmed first. Big pics have money and manpower behind them to get them into theaters faster these days. Lower budgets & more indie-type flicks still can take a longer time in post. Dur...
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Well Cloverfield only had a 30$ million budget, but I'd say Diary went into production a good bit before Cloverfield. Bear in mind, they only finished shooting Cloverfield a few months ago. The POV cam thing is all the rage now. It started out as a really cool way to shoot movies and now the moguls use it to make their movies cheaper.
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No, I haven't seen DOTD yet, but I won't start slinging cheap shots until I've seen the movie and have a valid opinion.
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you gotta love Zombies. nuff said
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bitchy commenters on a nerdy movie site should get their facts straight
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...that old guy from the Pixar short Geri's Game.
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Well who pissed on your tampax this morning?
Oh I'm very sorry! Please let me cut out my heart so you can devour it and wash it down with some smugness!
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in George's garage.
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Wow. I know your not serious. George A Romero is the one who basically invented a ood zombie film! These are sequels, that everyone knew about since his first zombie film came out. Every single zombie film out today, has copied off his movies. Zombies look ridiculous running fast. They have no brains, which fits them to walk slow. Dawn of the Dead remake was good, but zombies weren't anythin like they should be. So don't be like "Another zombie movie, like we've all seen." Cuz every single person knew he was going to make sequels!
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I'd have to choose Zombie Flesh Eaters. Not just because it's great. It's pretty much the only movie where you'll see a zombie fight a shark!
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Today I got up, slowly wandered around in a daze. Found a family hiding in the basement, mmmm brains are soooooo delicious. Tried to save some for that cute Zombie girl in lingere, but was too hungry. That's okay though, the lingere hottie forgave me and we're going to wander aimlessly at the mall later on tonite. Hope I don't get shot in the head by some crazy food later on today.
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and yesterday, I ate more brains. I'm getting tired of brains.
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I guess I'm way late for the CLOVERFIELD comparison, but...wtf? It's NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD Redux CLOVERFIELD style.
I think he's a good director who still has it. LAND OF THE DEAD was quite good in its own way (having nothing whatever to do with zombies - as always). so I'm hoping he has some angle here besides the whole BLAIR CLOVERFIELD PROJECT thing he's obviously got going on there. -
1. I didn't like Land of the Dead. I thought the concept was terrible
2. I think this movie looks effing amazing
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and he makes romantic comedies.
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I love Romeros zombie flicks, but that trailer kind of sucked. Too many flash cuts...it gave me a headache. I hope that's not how the movie is cut...
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There are actually a lot of really effective one uninterrupted take moments that just boggle my mind on how they were pulled off. And the social commentary in this one is as sharp as ever.... trust me on this, it's a good movie.
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I said they look similar and they're both gonna suck. So FUCK and YOU, dumbasses. Read the post carefully before commenting next time, morons.
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Really.
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Just as "Under Siege" was "Die Hard" on a ship, "Speed" was "Die Hard" on a Bus, "Sudden Death" was "Die Hard" in a sports stadium...to say either Cloverfield or Diary are anything but blatant "Blair Witch" rip-offs is kidding yourself.
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...Film at 11.
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Romero trailer debuts; average age, grammar and IQ of AICN posters plummet exponentially overnight. Film at 11. SHAKY film.
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if for no other reason that nothing could suck as bad as land did. that movie was a piece of unadulterated crap, and anyone who says otherwise? well...
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Jan 15, 2008 2:02:08 AM CST
Cant stand editing technique of flickering/damaged video
by george newman
it's an obnoxious quick transition device that sucks the patience out of my brain.
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Then Guest went back in time and made Waiting for Guffman.
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You beat me to it. Hopefully that damaged tape effect was just for the trailer.
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So you'd lump The Crazies and Martin in with the terrible category? Um, sorry, no. Both great films, if not as seminal as Night of the Living or Dawn of the Dead. I don't even agree that Creepshow is better than Day of the Dead. Day of the Dead is my favorite of the series, even though I recognize it isn't the most influential or the most important. If I had to sit down right now and watch one of the Dead movies though (unless you count Diary since I haven't seen it) it would be Day. Dr. Logan and Bub the Zombie make for some good watching, as do Joe Pilato in loose cannon mode and that guy who drinks a lot with the googly paranoia eyes. If you're going to trash Romero just drop "There's Always Vanilla", even "Season of the Witch". You can make a legitimate case for those movies stinking like 3 day old ass. He rarely dips below decent, you can't really say that The Dark Half or Land of the Dead are BAD.. And for all those commenting on it, he has been wearing similar glasses for decades. I was trying to see his teeth, as they have always been tar yellow. Someone get this man laser eye surgery and porcelain veneers.
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Read a dictionary. They're not "Romero Zombies" and they're not "undead" but that does not stop them from meeting the criteria. Heck, the only REAL zombies, who were where the word came from, were alive - just stoned out of their gourds. Stop being idiots and spreading disinformation.
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Looks boring.
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from wikipedia: "The film became infamous for two scenes in particular, aided by special effects. One features a zombie (Ramon Bravo) fighting a shark underwater. The actor scheduled to fight the shark was unable to perform the day the sequence was to be shot, so the shark's trainer was used instead." (I'll bet the actor scheduled was unavailable! And I can't blame him. The scene looks very good but also very dangerous! This might have helped though ... The infamous shark vs zombie scene was filmed in a large salt water tank and the shark was fed horse meat and sedatives before filming.)
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Jan 15, 2008 4:06:13 AM CST
In your face social commentary, slow zombies...probably boring
by dynamixro
I really hope that won't be the case. I don't need a zombie flick to tell me what's wrong with the world(at least it shouldn't try to make a point out of it). If I want social commentary I can always watch another kind of movie, switch on the tv, browse the net or talk to people around me. George's ideas worked great in the "Dead" trilogy(which I watched and respect, especially the 3rd part), but the times they are a-changin'
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It has been almost ten years since The Blair Witch Project was released, why the resurgence in these mockumentary horror films now?
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first: Romero seems to be a likeable "Man" (unlike Carpenter who comes across as a bitch on the Cigarette Burns Extras). And I wonder what scares him. This guy is respected as a kind of intellectual horror-maker. I like him as sort of a working class guy. Look at his sofa ! You have to keep in mind that his early works were done in a different film-market then today. He didn't get financing in the 90's and only the comeback of commercial horror and DVD has set him loose again. So, I am curious of his new Dead, because the last one was soso, but I have a feeling Diary will tickle my nose more then Cloverfield, which seems to be J.J. going Bay...
For the Blairwitch: The Projekt didn't work for me, but it was better then the B-Witch 2, which was a disaster. So if you think about how a pandemic would be recorded today: personal videos, cell-phone photos. Look at CNN - they have an I-report section too.
And the reason Romero is going for handheld: Bourne is a cut every second and on handheld, its cheap to film and it made big bucks.
I agree with the point about batteries, though the trailer suggests that they thought about it. But if you look at things like that... whats the whole genre about?! As they said in that (ultra-self-referential) Supernatural episode: You have seen horrorfilms, so don't get into that house alone. -
Yes mate, looks like the Blair Witch fad is back, and Holgi65 I agree with your points about why producers/directors seem to be going for this kind of direction style. I guess it is interesting although I did enjoy the BWP when I saw it at the cinema I do not feel the need to watch it again. At least this looks like a proper zombie movie, unlike I Am Legend which was not a proper zombie or vampire film and those "dark seekers" were about as scary as creatures from the late 90's "Mummy" film. Shame.
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that first Zombie on the screen? Scary as hell man! With those big fuckin glasses and that "I've been surviving on brains only for hundreds of years" look. FUCKING FRIGHTENING!
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It's cannibal holocaust- simply because witches don't eat human flesh. Which I think is also the first film that had this stupid mocumentary framework.
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No shit. You have to look at that face and those humongous glasses everyday. Sheesh!
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Cannibal Holocaust-lite, I'd say.
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Please can we have some Cool News?! I need my fix.
I've got nothing for contempt for the guys who come on here to say Chud got a story 5 minutes quicker. I don't need it fast, but I need it. Fake trailers for Star Trek won't cut it. Stuff about Anime ain't cool. Anything from AICN Downunder is a waste of space. Plugs for film festivals in Austin are no good to me. Splitting Harry Potter in to two films - who cares?!
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Sorry but that's been online for a while
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As classic horror remakes go, it was pretty damn good. I get the feeling Romero swiped the "Diary" idea from the remake's closing credits, though.
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doesnt matter how bad romero has got,give it 10 years and let snyder do a better remake :)
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you're only five days behind everyone else. Bravo.
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More shaky-cam bollocks.
Yawn.
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He may have been the original guy who did these movies, but im sorry.. the original dawn of the dead is fucking horrible, i wouldnt be scared of lathargic milk of magnesia faced zombies walking around a mall, they all acted like Anna Nicole after her lawyer gave her daily dose of horse tranqs to her. It was just a pitiful movie.
I think Zak Snyders version will be more appreciated as time goes on, cause i know i would be scared as fuck if i saw some one armed asian guy running full bore after me covered in blood. My friend and I have argued this for years, but he is just one of those fan boys who is a bit biased cause he thinks everything that is the original is better. This new movie looks like he is trying to cash in with a young cast, so people might actually go see one of his movies... Romero is the Kevin Smith of horror, no one sees it in the theatre, but say how good it is after the video comes out. -
I tried and tried but they kind of suck. I rented the original Dawn of the Dead the other day and I had to fast forward it b/c I found it to be dull and kind of silly. I Day of the Dead and NOTLD too and only NOTLD was creepy and original.
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"SLUTS OF THE DEAD"...
About a virus that sweeps over a baron Las Vegas town. The only thing that was there are some working hookers in a strip club called... "The Clitterhouse".
The sluts then go on a rampage through Las Vegas humpin the hell out of all unsuspecting patrons and then killing them.
In one graphic scene, one whore gives a man a BJ then eats his schlong (I know girls that actually do this).
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Funny stuff.
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Done CLOVERFIELD style, all shakey cam and from the perspective of innocent bystanders.
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I hate that cheap shit. Its a stock graphic with Final Cut Pro!! Can't someone make a better one? Seriously?!
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You all know what will happen don't you?
They'll keep pumping out shakey cam movies until they see that people are sick of the style and start avoiding them. Then an independent/foreign film will come out with a new style and look and they'll just start creatively raping that. It's like the movie-making equivalent of camping. Sit there and wait for something to come along, then plunder the fuck out of it. -
Romero seemed to forget that zombies are supposed to be scary for this one.
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I agree with you but at the same time, how do you scare twenty-something cynics who have seen every horror movie under the sun. I mean I have my own ideals on horror. I can't remember the last time horror in general scared me significantly (and I'm a pussy). This generation and even the previous one have been disaffected and calloused to graphic material. sadly it's not like the old days anymore.
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That night shot where you first see the creatures scares the shit out of me. The rest is meh.
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The last film that scared me was Hard Candy and that wasn't even a horror!
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It isn't scary. AT all. All it is is extremely unpleasant, soulless crap. It is this level of desensitisation that has made it hard for horror to be frightening
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You can't beat doing a chick Vampire Style!
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I hate it. It's appaling and is killing real horror.
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well can he?
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Did you say Diarrhea Of The Dead?
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really weak
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really weak
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I'm afraid that if you really think zombies should be scary, then you're stuck in a perpetual state of tweenager. they're incredibly slow and relatively dumb and always have been. if you go into a romero movie looking for cheap thrills (cheap as in easy to conjure-up), then boy are you in the wrong movie. they're all pretty overt social commentaries that depend very little on spectacle (action/adventure/thrills) for their intended effect. so while I don't like the idea of this movie and it looks to me like romero is possibly whoring himself at the expense of his own signature (brilliant?) creation, one thing that is completely unfair to hold against him is that his movies aren't scary. that's like buying a ticket for SENSE AND SENSIBILITY and then complaing THAT Alan Rickman isn't speaking with a faux german accent and trying to pull off the biggest heist in world history.
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Horror movies are only really effective on kids. That's why I'd consider Jaws a horror. It has all the traits of a horror movie, because it scared the shit out of me when I was five and continues to do so today. But everybody regards it as a chiller because it's a shark?!!?
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In the last couple of weeks, I’ve seen people on here RAIL Romero’s trilogy into the ground. People saying that the original “Dawn” is cheesy and stupid. And then those same people saying that the remake is better and 28 Weeks Later is one of the best Zombie movies of all time! Are you people that freaking spoonfed and lead into whatever the studio is pushing these days? I mean 28 Weeks Later is what passes for a ‘scary’ movie these days? Come on! And most of you bitch and moan about shaky cam, mtv edits, ect. But your creaming your jeans over Cloverfield and shitting all over the legacy of Romero? People all over the world still watch the trilogy today and most of us hold it as a classic for the genre. I highly doubt people will think the same about Cloverfield as they do about Night of the Living Dead. Even Harry who nearly shat his pants going to see CF said that the monster in that movie isn’t iconic and you barely see it. And now you guys want to come in here and diss a man who made possibly one of the largest impacts on the horror genre? That’s bullshit and you people should be ashamed of yourselves. I love horror and I always have but must say that I hope for the next 10 years all you get is stupid studio remakes of your favorite classic films that don’t even capture the spirit of what they meant. I hope you get more torture porn up until Saw 87: Jigsaws Urinary Tract Infection. I hope that you keep getting big budget, mindless, horror movies filled with jump scares w/violins, no characters that matter, and filled with actors like Paris Hilton and Spencer from The Hills. Maybe after that you might be able to appreciate someone who gave the world a true vision and continues to try and up himself. Instead of pathetic Michael Bay produced studio shit that is all the rage these days. I know there are some of you out there that feel like I do. So please support me on this one. Take the time to think about the classics of horror, and what is supposedly horror today.
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He has strength and power. Romero has the taut wiry evil spewing through his veins, so he might have a chance.
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He has strength and power. Romero has the taut wiry evil spewing through his veins, so he might have a chance.
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Although he would get a few good cuts into Lee with the hidden razor blade in his boot.
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Just to toss in my cents...Land of the Dead was not good. The Dawn remake was not as deep, but a much better movie than the original. Night still rules them all in overall atmo and creepiness....oh, and READ WORLD WAR Z!!! I read the damn thing in 20 hours...not cause it's short but I couldn't put it down.
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At least not for Night, Dawn and Day. They had clever scripts and were filmed when nobody did that thing. All new zombie flicks owe something to Romero. That's his credit. YEah, his zombies are not scary (specially the Dawn zombies), and he did that horrible piece of crap called Land of the Dead, but he had sense of style and fun. That's what his fame is all about. Even mocked society on his horror flicks (but remember, they're horror, not social-drama). Before Cloverfield there was Blair Witch, before that there was The last Broadcast, and before that there was Cannibal Holocaust.
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I fucking LOVE Dawn of the Dead...but Romero never should've changed the ending. The football run complete with rah-rah music was horrible.
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Neither was the first of their breed...was simply using the Last Broadcast/Blair Witch comparison due to how similar THOSE TWO are. Land of the Dead was shit though...shit with sprinkles of awesome here and there...kinda like Spidey 3. Fuck the Zombie Birth in DOTD remake...the first 5 minutes are worth the price of admission.
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I know I'm wasting my time in writing that, but damnit I just can't stand people shitting all over a legend
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Okay, the guy practically invented a horror genre ( although Hammer studios Plague Of The Zombies came out two years earlier, and I Am Legend's influence has been stated elsewhere ), and the low budget worked to the films amateur advantage. And yes, Dawn was a great follow up, but legendary? Would you call Tobe Hooper legendary for Chainsaw and Poltergeist? Thats a mighty hefty title for a guy who's best known for a couple of zombie films....
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Ok, we can holler till we're blue in the face about which works of Romero's are good or bad and why. But, nobody can argue that he's famous for his Dead films, and I love them. I agree he peaked in the series with Dawn (NOTLD is still my fave though) and Day and Land are ok in their own respects. Theres a lot of hate on Land, and while I agree there was a lot to not like there, I think there was a lot to like as well. What is great about Land though (and what I dont like about Diary) is that it carries on in the expanding story of the Dead saga, its spread and the impact on that world and those who inhabit it. I'm not thrilled with the idea of a 'reboot' for lack of a better term and I really hate POV hand-held docu-style movie shit. I think its a gimmick that only works a small percentage of the time and only for certain subject matter. I hope Diary kicks all kinds of ass and proves me wrong, but I'd still rather see Romero continue expanding the Dead universe, pulling back and showing us more.
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fuck it.
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...how long can Ain't It Cool get away with stealing three-day old empiremagazine.co.uk news? Seriously guys, the Bond casting news, the Deathly Hallows alleged split, and now this, all posted days before on Empire's site. I'll guess you'll post the Princess and the Frog first-look news in a day or so...
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The lactose intolerant attack!!!
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A brash statement coming from a 21 year old. But you only have to look at what's come before and what's coming now. Horror used to something which gave us that horrible, unnerving feeling. That sense of dread and despair. The exploration of the most intriguing of human conditions; FEAR! Now it's cheap. The world is full of idiots. These idiots have money and like to watch movies fitting to their mental capacity. So where's there's cause there's effect. They make movies for other idiots and Horror is sadly one of the many genres to have fallen into the clutches of stupidity. By the way I'd like to say before I continue that my previous posts about splatter-fests and torture porn were not to be taken seriously (except for the Vampire Style bit). Now a horror movie is considered good if it has several predictable jumpy bits and large breasts. The only thing I can compare Horror's current state to is if you put a band-aid on a broken leg. It's cheap and won't do the job.
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Romero is too good for the largely teenaged acne-faced Klebold-wannabes who angrily rant on this site every time a Romero movie is mentioned.
That, and the fact that there's a healthy contingent of Zack Snyder's attention-deficit asslickers lurking on here waiting to rip on anything that doesn't have Korn or Slipknot in the soundtrack.
You immature little puppies.
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Blair Witch was groundbreaking because it was shot as an indie film with large doses of improvisation and taking the disadvantages of not having a budget and making them advantages. Diary and Cloverfield are massively financed by comparison and are trying to pass off their productions as innovative and groundbreaking when they are neither.
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Romero is a prophet, and sadly his visions of society, especially in America, are already coming true.
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could't agree more with you guys. Skimn, yes he is a legend when it comes to the horror genre. So is Tobe. 50 years from now people will still be talking about the classics of horror and the Dead movies and TCM will still be spoken. It's NOT going to be "Do you guys remember the One Missed Call remake? that shit was classic". People are going to remember the stuff that changed the genre, if you can't see it than I'd like for you to make a list of what you would say is a legend of horror, from the beginning until now. I highly doubt anything in the last couple years will be listed as a classic.
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You're dead right about classics. There's no merit or substance to what's being pumped out now. They've remade THE EYE for fuck's sake! Bella Lugosi did it for me. A master character actor who sadly befell addicton and was outcast by the industry.
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Romero's original NotLD (a genuinely classic horror masterpiece) > Savini's 90's remake... Hooper's original Texas Chainsaw Massacre (another horror classic) > that POS Michael Bay remake.... the original 60's version of "The Haunting" (a great horror movie, maybe not a horror classic though) > Schumacher's turd of a remake... but the original Dawn of the Dead < Snyder's remake. I'm not trying to talk (too much) shit, as I'd freak out on anyone who held the Haunting remake over the original, but not everyone who preferred Snyder's version is a horror blasphemer. Yeah, the windsprinting zombies were a little too X-treme at times, but compared to the shambling, ketchup smeared "social commentary" zombies in the original, I'll go for the actual scary zombies everytime. I wouldn't mind Romero's NotLD sequels as much if they were actually horror-inducing, or, y'know, good movies.
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HOSTEL part 1 and 2 are actually quite brilliant, with layers of social commentary and satire along with the terror and gore. Unfortunately neither of the films get any credit for being as smart as they are because the violence, sex, and nudity is so gratuitous. Its a shame too because they're actually quite brilliant and carefully constructed films. Sure, they're exploitation, but its artfully done and smart exploitation; like many of Takashii Miike's films (especially AUDITION and ICHI THE KILLER).
The SAW series, on the other hand, is mind-numbingly stupid. Yes, even the first one is ludicrously awful offering nothing more than what appears to be outtakes from an unused Nine Inch Nails video. A terrible, useless, pointless movie. (I won't even comment on dreck like Tursitas and/or Captivity which could / should be called Torture Bore rather than Torture Porn.) -
Except this one is supposedly pretty damn scary. Anyone here heard of this? (trailer link below) It's called "Paranormal Activity". Got tickets to see this at Slamdance on the 18th. Hope I'm not wasting time on it.
http://tinyurl.com/289akz
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I'm not dismissing Night Of The Living Dead's ( or Chainsaw's )position in the history of horror films, as a classic. They are landmark films that reflect the era that they were made, yet contain themes that make them timeless. I just think the term ( or ad copy designation ) legendary would apply to a director with a greater and more accomplished body of work. I would call Hitchcock legendary, Polanski (don't jump on me haters) legendary, even maybe Argeanto (pardon my spelling). If Kubrick made 2001 and nothing else of value, would he be a legendary director, or a director that made a classic film and not much else?
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not with horror. The proof is in the pudding and they just can't get it right (especially here in western cinema). Exploitation doesn't even properly exist anymore. It's rather a sub-genre of itself, often "toning" down the hardcore, graphic elements and replacing it with sarcastic humor and a rapper-turned-actor spouting "Mutha Fucka" a lot in the dark.
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Jan 15, 2008 4:26:04 PM CST
I think modern horror does say a lot about society today...
by evilgeek1
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And they were exploitative to the core -- smart, satirical, artfully done exploitation.
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But not in a good way. It represents how shallow and frivolous it all is. The times we live in are very mono-faceted and seemingly meaningless, much like the modern horror movies. In the 60's and 70's there were some real issues out there. Race. War. Poverty. Class. But back then, the people were more pure in spirit. There was far less hatred and cynicism in people. In a nutshell, people gave a shit. Nowadays, everything is disposable and lacks longevity. It's the case for us humans and sadly for cinema also.
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Yeah the idea was pretty good. The dark weirdness that is eastern europe. That corner of the world that you've only heard about. The Hostel representing your failsafe; the one place where you'll be alright. And it turns out you're their income! great idea but poorly executed. Even though it was being advertised as just a "splatter-fest to end all splatter-fests" it didn't even pull that off. Yeah, he got his tendons slashed. That was nice. But the rest of it felt like eating cornflakes without the milk.
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It tried to be the 'new zombie message movie', I think: lots of thinly-veiled metaphor in there about "race, war, poverty and class". But the movie failed. I agree with you that most new horror films are disposable, but not just because they lack any message/social commentary. Even when they dabble in these things, the new schlock horror writer/directors lack the creative vision to do the message effectively.
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I realise I must be contradicting myself where I say that I liked Land yet I say that horror is dead! You're right about Land and the thinly-veiled metaphors. You see I'm a weird creation altogether. I'll sit down and start raving about the ethics or aesthetics of film, using all the big words and then I'd go and watch Smokin' Aces! But I say what I mean when I speak about Horror and Science Fiction also because they're very close to my heart. I differentiate film from movies. The former I would regard to be thought-provoking and deep, the latter to be just for entertainment. And with horror/sci-fi there's a thin tightrope that they have to walk between the two.
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I trend to stray from the point a lot!
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Horror and Sci-fi for me, are about the human condition. Seeing the cogs in motion as the character/s face the unknown. And I think they hit ground the most when they get in our face. When the danger or element in question is right on our doorstep. That's why I adore THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL. It wasn't just about aliens trying to stop us from using nuclear weaponry. It was also about social thinking and most importantly prejudice. And in that sense, it's more real than any other of it's kind. Horror is at it's best when preying to your every fear and anxiety. When it takes away the things you thought were yours and yours alone. If there's one thing I hate it's preaching movies. I abhor them. But society is the one thing we all depend upon. Otherwise we're really up the Liffey. So when that's taken away or threatened, that can be really scary...
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No WAY!! :*)
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Some great stuff on the over-valuation of youth and undervaluation of the old. I liked the idea of a remake (particularly if it stayed closer to the book). But I'm afraid it will be made into some kind of 'stop the repression of Abercrombie-wearing iPhoners!' type thing.
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It was about arrogant Americans getting their asses handed to them... literally! It was about the objectifiers being objectified... and then tortured and killed! It was about Class War -- the SUPERRICH preying on the lower classes and literally tearing them limb from limb. It was about misogynist corporate jerks and their malaise ridden, impotent, suburban repressed rageaholic friends being who they really are underneath -- and getting their eventual comeuppance. It was about the dark heart of the world stretched out end to end on the rack-and-wheel of commerce and death. It was, in short, absolutely fucking brilliant, terrifying, and classic to the core. And neither of them get the respect they deserve.
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Ha! Michael York! His haircut was pretty ground-breaking as well!
You know, I'd just love to see a horror movie where the characters are really plain looking. No amazing ass or chest. Just normal fucking people! It's such crap putting the photogenic 17 year old girls in movies. It's not like you can beat off in the cinema, so why are they in the movie??!!!?? -
Where did you get all that from?
Class war? they weren't exactly sitting around in pinstripe suits with cigars in their fingers cackling. I'll give you the fact that they were douchey American students, maybe a little stuck up, this is Hostel we're talking about. It wasn't that deep, my friend. It was awful. It was the cliche "Anybody seen josh?" movie, where he walks around like an idiot while all these sadistic Bratislavians glare at him. Seen that kind of thing before. -
Glad you liked it but I think Roth's gratuitous violence/torture were the point of the film, with message/commentary on society running a very distant 2nd (or 42nd). If Roth wanted to make real social commentary with Hostel, the film would have taken the subject matter a bit more seriously, don't you think? The tone would have been much less cheesy and over-the-top; the violence would have been more implied, less in-you-face; the characters would have been more real and relatable (instead of cartoony versions of stereotypical "Ugly Americans"). And the 'scary Europeans' would have been less like Dieter (and better dressed, for that matter).
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did a great job in that film as well. Wouln't call her smoking-hot by Hollywood standards, but she does seem like a 'real' person. Love the nude scene in the ice caves (unedited version). Couldn't stand Farrah Fawcett, but they needed an airhead with big tits- and she filled out the role in spades.
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The only thing that will keep it in the public mind will be the contravesity that surronded it's release. It's not even scary. It's got a great concept but it goes the worst possible direction with it. I loved Miike's Audition but Hostel is an definite exapmle of an American interpretation. In Audition you care about the characters. Eli doesn't make you care about the people. Some people might say that's by choice, but then we are supposed to root for these people at the end? Eli writes a lot of characters that are like the guys in Hostel so doesn't it seem like these are the people he relates to?
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They were all superrich ('cept for the sadsack suburban dad who's superrich corporate alpha-male friend picked up the tab); they all had the means to pay the money being asked for in order to torture and kill basically anyone they wanted to. Ergo, CLASS WAR.
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I understand where you are coming from, but ask most avid fans of the horror genre who are the legends and I guarentee that Romero will be on the list. Yes he has made so crappy films, but the guy made some amazing movies that spoke for their time and speak even louder today IMO. Just remeber that Jimi Hendrix had only 1 'hit' song and he's still a legend in the music world. Romero has made movies that have lasted over 30 years and the poor guy can't get a single dime for his work so of cource not everything is going to be his perfect vision.
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Jan 15, 2008 5:37:43 PM CST
Well, I Cared About The Characters, And I Think Its Classic
by laserpants
In ten years, when filmgeeks and horror fans are still talking about it, you can pretend to have loved it all along.
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Trust me, I'll never pretend to like Hostel. It's just not a good movie. Horror fans mostly just say how much they hate it. Don't believe me, just read a talkback for a Hostel 2 review.
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alright with the movie. Like the asian for example (but after she got her eye done because I'm fucked up), but these things become clouded by the lumbering, panzer-like blatantness of the plot. I don't usually slam movies if the have redeeming features. I've got a friend called Nemo who does that better than me. But I remember seeing the trailer and getting so stoked. And with Tarantino watching over it, I thought it was to be gold. I wasn't angry at it. Just disappointed.
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Just because the violence was so intense, that makes the social commentary / satire less valid? How? Do you feel the same way about George Romero's hamfisted social commentary as seen in, oh I don't know, ALL of his Zombie movies? Because they were too gory and "over the top?" Didn't think so. Anopther example: Do you feel the same way about STARSHIP TROOPERS? That was another brilliant, albeit cartoonish and "over the top" satire of fascism and the various American foreign policy disasters / imperialist invasions of the last 50 years. And it was utterly brilliant as well; using the vapid plastic surface of the American cultural wasteland to portray an increasingly believeable fascist future.
I think the thing is that the violence in HOSTEL 1 and 2, which actually takes up very little screen time, is so absolutely horrifying, that it drives people away; making them unable to judge the underlying themes the films explored. Its understandable, cause they're very intense movies. But that doesn't make them bad movies, and it doesn't make the underlying themes and satire any less valid. -
Look at Fulci's Zombie for a truly good eye scene. There have been plenty of movie with much more suspense, horror, and gore than Hostel. I think in twenty years someone might see it on a shelf and say 'oh yeah, i forgot about that movie, let's rent Jason 3'.
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But we can agree to disagree on the merits of the Hostel franchise. Good horror concept, for sure. and wide open for social commentary. But in the end the director (like many of his contemporaties) went for lowest-common-denominator entertainment: exploitation with grotesque, over-the-top violence. Wish I'd seen the movie you did, but I can't take the ones I saw all that seriously.
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Let's just nip that in the bud right now. It was not half as gory or violent as it claimed to be. I dread to think LaserPants what would happen to your poor psyche if you happened to stumble across A BITTERSWEET LIFE. I'm sorry, but no.
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If a movie wants to have social commentary and tons of gore that's fine. However what is the overall commentary with Hostel? Americans exploit the world, the world exploits them, but in the end American's will get their revenge? That's pretty much the plot right there. I don't really see any other themes in the movie.
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I liked Paxton. I thought he was a likeable character. I liked Josh and Oli too. In the second movie I liked the girls -- Beth, Lauren, and Whitney. And I'm a horror fan, and loved both movies. I think the reason why alot of Talkbackers didn't like part 2 was because it was actually smarter and more satirical then the first -- focusing on the torturers as this kind of COMPANY OF MEN-ish examination of the deep-seated rage and assholery of alpha-male corporate jerkoffs out to "take it to the next level." It was, in fact, too smart for your average horror fan. No doubt these same people hated LAND OF THE DEAD too.
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Like the dangers of pre-marital sex in friday the 13th. Or how although we don't want to except it, death is inevitable in Final Destination 3. Just because you can read that theme doesn't make the movie good
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That's a good twist and the second one seems to be a better idea of what he was supposedly going for. However if you want a good example of a scary movie with a similar context as what you read in Hostel, I'd say rent Candyman, just the first one if you haven't seen. That is a good example of someone taking advantage of a group of people that they don't understand and the racial and physical consequences of an outsider's actions and the reprocussions that can follow.
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...I hope!
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I'm just trying to understand where you are coming from and your definition as to why Hostel will become a classic. Just out of curiosity, what other horror films do you like?
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Sooo, you missed the whole thing with the superrich taking advantage of their status and wealth as basically above the law to do whatever they with whomever they want? Its kinda screaming at you if you give it a chance and listen. Its more than just the exploiters being exploited. Again, as I said, layers of social commentary. Granted, hamfisted social commentary, but, correct me if I'm wrong, we are in a George "Hamfisted Social Commentary" Romero talkback aren't we?
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Strike two LaserPants
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because the main characters in Hostel were at least well off as well, and I know in the second one the one girl was able to get out of dying because she was rich. So is it saying that the rich will continue to buy their way out of anything? That's pretty common knowledge being that most of the world is middle class or poor. It's not something that will span a generation and still explored years later. Nobody is going to say "thank God for Hostel because if I would have never seen it i wouldn't know that if I was tortured to the point that I was disfigured the first thing I would do when I escaped with my life and saw myself in a mirror would be to kill myself because I couldn't stand walking around knowing I'm ugly for the rest of my life'
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(in no particular order, offa the top of my head)
- All the Romero DEAD movies
- Texas Chainsaw Massacre (the original classic. Actually, I loved part 2 as well.)
- Halloween 1 and 2 (originals)
- The Thing (Carpenter remake)
- The Shining (Kubrick's)
- Audition
- Ichii The Killer (not really horror, but, horrifying in its own Miike way)
- 28 Days Later
- Aliens (action sci-fi horror)
- Shaun of the Dead (comedy horror)
- The Fly (Cronenberg's version)
- Videodrome
- Scanners
- The HOST (giant monster movies count, right?)
- High Tension (I can't help it, I'm a sucker for a hot schizophrenic chick with a gigantic chainsaw.)
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Where did you get the idea I didn't?
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I just can't understand the Hostel love. But to each his own. and High Tension???? dude. hahaha
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Well you said George "Hamfisted Social Commentary" Romero.
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This is probably no secret to anyone that has worked with Romero but he has a severe drinking problem. He drinks bottles of rum all day long. He'd probably make decent movies again if people called bullshit on his latest films and he was forced to go to rehab. But if your completely wasted and you know your makin shit and people are still paying you why should you quit. So all you people that somehow thought "Land" was remotely watchable and already have your mind made up about "Diary" being good are enablers. SHAME!
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The only one who gets away in part 2 is the one with the funds to buy her way out. The rest are fucked. Ergo wealth = do whatever the fuck you want without consequences, while the rest of us slog for the masters.
And again, I don't quite think that social commentary in horror films is meant to "save" anybody. Nor did I imply that. Did the social commentary in any of Romero's films save anybody? Did anyone say "thank god Romero opened my eyes to the evils of consumerism"? No. And nobody says they have to. Furthermore, does that make the commentary any less valid or entertaining? No. And are people still talking about the movies and the social commentary angle in particular in Romero's films? Yes. I may be wrong, but I think HOSTEL 1 & 2 will have the same staying power; at least as cult films. -
Dude, I've been a fan of Romeros ever since I watched NOTLD in my jammies as a wee kid and lost my mind with gleeful horror.
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Hostel had a poor box office turn-out and a bad reception by the critics (unless you read Maxim for your movie reviews). Now while I don't merit that as a reason to dislike it (I don't read reviews at all, or at least rarely) it was one of the few occasions when I agreed with them.
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You didn't like it? I mean, the "twist" was totally retarded, but the gore and such was pretty kewl I thought. Great last scene too with the dude in the car getting ripped to shreads.
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...with the drinking/fading from greatness into a repetitive mediocre parody of his former brilliance. Unfortunate.
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The first one, anyway. The second one, not so much. But even then it managed to make a hefty profit cause they were both cheaply made. Cheap being a relative thing in movies -- I think it cost like $10 million or somethin'.
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Shame on you! It was great! How could ya not like it?
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It lasted a week in my cinema (I don't own a cinema, just work there).
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...that this mocku-quasi-docu-mentarography technique needs to now be used for WORLD WAR Z, pronto?
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Hey, to each his own, right? I totally loved HOSTEL 1 and 2. Crazy loved them. I even have a HOSTEL action figure on my desk at home. Yes, they made HOSTEL action figures. Its Paxton in the getup he wears whilst escaping from the torture room -- you know, the big metal mask and overalls? Yes, I'm that much of a geek.
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I think it should be done as if it were a Ken Burns documentary with a mix of interviews and live footage. Preferably as a cable miniseries of some sort. That would fuckin' rule.
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That's the name I couldn't think of yesterday. Thanks, LP. And yeah, cable miniseries would be rad, but I'd settle for a long feature length movie too. YOU HEAR ME OUT THERE, PHILBRICK?!
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That episode of Zim with the zombies in the mall? It was cool beans!
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but Hostel II seemed unnecessary to me, exceptin' that you got yer hot chicks gettin' it instead of yer hot dudes. Just caught Turistas on HBO last week, and it had a bit of a bite to it. I expect that most people trashing it haven't seen it. Last movie I saw that scared me was ... Blair Witch (LMFAO), but I think that had as much to do with the near-perfect conditions under which I saw it as it did with the movie.
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There's alot of crap but we still get good horror films too. The Mist was the best I've seen in a while.
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Out of them all, the only two I'd actively choose to watch are 1 and 3.
One because it's excellent and has an ending that kicks you right in the gut, and 3 because it's got Bub. Land can fuck off because it took the subtlety of Bub and shat all over it with an untalented asshole who goes "AAAARGGHHHARRGHHH" and nods his head in the direction he wants other zombies to go - he was shit!!
Plus, Land was slow paced and had some dick going on about how the zombies were "just trying to find their place". Fuck you buddy, they're place is eating your face off. And what the fuck are sky flowers?? Does the word 'firework' not exist in Romero's universe or something?
As for Dawn, fuck it. It's badly acted, horribly paced and edited, has shitty music, shitty effects and a 'first-year-sociology-student' stab at social commentary. Fuck that movie, I wouldn't watch it on a bet. I'm glad so many were inspired by that movie or remember it fondly, but I'd rather watch Howard the Duck on continuous loop - at least it has duck tits and Lea Thompson in her undies. -
Love the movie up until the ending, which makes no fucking sense and could not possibly have happened in terms of what we saw on screen.
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are 3 good horror rentals in a row for me. what a surprise. Really recommend Severance and Behind the Mask!
oh, and has anyone seen Fido?
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Didn't LOVE where JMS took it. That Ken Burns docu w/ mix of interviews, dramatizations and file footage would be AMAZING!!!! Why am I not working!?!?
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Loved it. "You made me shoot my stupid brother!" Billy Connoly was great.
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We've discussed this before- but the basic problem with torture porn is that without the torture the film has no reason for existing. In the case of Hostel, and I'm not denying that there isn't a smarter film struggling to emerge from Roth's immense hackitude, as soon as the decision was made to turn the film into torture porn the focus was shifted and the smarter film was smothered. BTW in no sense of the word could it be called satire. It isn't. Whoever said it above was spot on. If Roth intended the social commentary (and I'm very far from allowing this), there were more subtle, and frankly more frightening ways it could have been done. But he didn't- instead he chose to dive into a torture scene. Torture is not intrinsically frightening- it is squirm inducing, and gross, but not scary. It is this difference that hacks like Roth and Zombie don't understand. They think that if you make the audience go "yuck" you have created an effective horror film. This is simply not true.When you add this to massively unlikeable characters, a script as subtle as a fucking sledgehammer, and an ending that exists just to justify the revenge idea and you have one piss poor excuse for a film. BTW 28 days later= 2/3 of a classic and 1/3 of a bag of shit. You know this to be true.
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it was the rest of the film. It is dull, unlikeable, ill-natured crap- and hence why the sequel bombed. And this is despite, from all accounts, it being a superior film.
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Great movie. An alien horror made by the guy who did The Blair Witch Project (don't let that discourage you, it was really fucking good). Not a masterclass of it's genre but damn fun to watch. The thing that impressed me the most was the fact that for 90% of the movie, they used traditional special effects. Rubber suits. Make-up. Animatronics. They could've made it a filthy CGI fest but they put effort into it. A very underrated movie, which tips its hat to the classic zombie movies. Geek recommends.
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i knew someone would back me up and I'm glad it's you.
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What didn't you like about 28 Days? I'm curious. Loved it but I saw the start about five times, so when I saw it properly, the impact was somewhat lost on me.
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what else is new!
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for calling you all cynical, I have to say one good thing came out of it, and that is pdennett316's comment. hahaha, perhaps I should re-evaluate my love for Dawn now?
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I'm tempted to link the Bear TB where we went into this in depth, as I can't be bothered to rehash the same old stuff. And Geek- I like most of 28 days ater, but it is the sequence with the army guys that is weak. It is simply tonally wrong- as if someone cut and pasted day of the dead into dawn.
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I mean it's only 28 days later, and already instead of trying to survive and keep civilization alive they want to rape anything with a pair of breasts? That kind of savagery you'd expect from Road Warrior or something set years after an apocalypse, not just well hell, not even a month unless you count February. I'm not saying I didn't like the movie, but the last bit, yeah it was off, not bad, but just off.
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Come on mother, let's go to bed. Oh wait let me push my thumbs through your eyes for the third time. It's so exciting and a fresh take that I didn't see coming
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Oh, I agree that 28 Weeks sucked, but 28 Days was a modern day classic, imho.
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Some of you people really need to calm down. This movies isn't even out, yet so many of you already hate it. On top of that you're basing your hatred of what other people say they saw. I love zombie movies wether they be good or bad. As long as people get eaten, does it really matter?
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DIARY OF THE DEAD premiered in London last November at the Frightfest All-Nighter, introduced by George A. Romero himself! I thought it was excellent. A very bold, brave, almost naieve film - Romero goes out on a limb with the (now fucking patented) CLOVERFUCK aesthetics; some people found it too grating and post-post-modern, but I enjoyed the hell out of it. I particlarly enjoyed the ingenious Mormon survivor and his arsenal of weaponry, which really showcases Romero having a lot of fun, and just doing stuff for his audience....Old-skool fans might not get all the grue and gore that DAY OF THE DEAD delivered, but I lapped it all up like fresh intestines!........A great new entry into the Romero canon, and I eagerly await the sequel; although he did mention in the Q+A that the sequel is NOT a certainty; nothing is written and no deals have yet been made - it's all contingent on the success of DIARY.....
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what the fook are you smoking? may i have some? no, not at the end of the day, now? _28 weeks_ was a compact nightmarish projection of _28 days_ and i thought it went further. that scene where the infected invade the basement where the uninfected are "protected", with the spotty lights, chaos and unholy hell being unleashed...brrr. i shiver, just thinking about it. come on, plus begbie, plus the hot chick from _damages_, plus the chick from braveheart, plus the michael guy/paraplegic from _lost/oz_, PLUS m*&^^%erf&*(ng STRINGER BELL, BITCH!!! WHAT!!! WHAT!!! WHAT!!! are you smoking. i was asking. can i have some? oh, you all know i think george should direct _the turn of the screw_ and forget about les morts vivants, non? still, this doesn't look....abymsal. though what IS up with george taking inspiration for the _dawn_ remake???? yeah, i suppose i'd call that post-post-modern. i'd also call that all sorts of lame.
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