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Didja watch the watered down Golden Globes last night? If not, check out who won!

Published at:  Jan 14, 2008 10:19:49 AM CST

Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I watched the Globes last night and really... how lame can you get? I fully support the Writers and I think they're finally playing it smart, going to the smaller studios (Weinstein Co., UA and rumored to be doing so with Lionsgate) and making individual deals... that'll force the bigger studios to follow suit when the smaller guys can start new projects and they can't.

I fully blame the lameness of last night's Globes on the Globe producers themselves. I understand they couldn't cut to celebrities looking hot, but really... two vapid day-time gossip anchors reading out the noms like they'd read the weather report?

Did you notice the lack of any sort of suspense? They couldn't finish reading off the nominees before they'd just blurt out the winners. I know they can add suspense... throw in some music and a long pause... Why not? I've seen Deal Or No Deal... I know they can do it with just those two simple things...

Anyway, the Globes were all over the place this year... seems they wanted to make everyone happy with none of the nominated films sweeping and everybody getting one or two awards... with the exception of JUNO, which I think was really shafted.

Here's the list of winners:



Best motion picture -- drama

"American Gangster"
"Atonement"
"Eastern Promises"
"The Great Debaters"
"Michael Clayton"
"No Country for Old Men"
"There Will Be Blood"

Performance by an actress in a motion picture -- drama

Cate Blanchett, "Elizabeth: The Golden Age"
Julie Christie, "Away From Her"
Jodie Foster, "The Brave One"
Angelina Jolie, "A Mighty Heart"
Keira Knightley, "Atonement"

Performance by an actor in a motion picture -- drama

George Clooney, "Michael Clayton"
Daniel Day-Lewis, "There Will Be Blood"
James McAvoy, "Atonement"
Viggo Mortensen, "Eastern Promises"
Denzel Washington, "American Gangster"

Motion picture -- musical or comedy

"Across the Universe"
"Charlie Wilson's War"
"Hairspray"
"Juno"
"Sweeney Todd"

Performance by an actress in a motion picture -- musical or comedy

Amy Adams, "Enchanted"
Nikki Blonsky, "Hairspray"
Helena Bonham Carter, "Sweeney Todd"
Marion Cotillard, "La Vie en Rose"
Ellen Page, "Juno"

Performance by an actor in a motion picture -- musical or comedy

Johnny Depp, "Sweeney Todd"
Ryan Gosling, "Lars and the Real Girl"
Tom Hanks, "Charlie Wilson's War"
Philip Seymour Hoffman, "The Savages"
John C. Reilly, "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story"

Performance by an actress in a supporting role in a motion picture

Cate Blanchett, "I'm Not There"
Julia Roberts, "Charlie Wilson's War"
Saoirse Ronan, "Atonement"
Amy Ryan, "Gone Baby Gone"
Tilda Swinton, "Michael Clayton"

Performance by an actor in a supporting role in a motion picture

Casey Affleck, "The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford"
Javier Bardem, "No Country for Old Men"
Philip Seymour Hoffman, "Charlie Wilson's War"
John Travolta, "Hairspray"
Tom Wilkinson, "Michael Clayton"

Animated feature film

"Bee Movie"
"Ratatouille"
"The Simpsons Movie"

Foreign-language film

"4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days" (Romania)
"The Diving Bell and the Butterfly" (France, U.S.)
"The Kite Runner" (U.S.)
"Lust, Caution" (Taiwan)
"Persepolis" (France)

Director -- motion picture

Tim Burton, "Sweeney Todd"
Ethan Coen and Joel Coen, "No Country for Old Men"
Julian Schnabel, "The Diving Bell and the Butterfly"
Ridley Scott, "American Gangster"
Joe Wright, "Atonement"

Screenplay -- motion picture

"Atonement," written by Christopher Hampton
"Charlie Wilson's War," written by Aaron Sorkin
"The Diving Bell and the Butterfly," written by Ronald Harwood
"Juno," written by Diablo Cody
"No Country for Old Men," written by Ethan Coen and Joel Coen

Original score -- motion picture

"Grace Is Gone," composed by Clint Eastwood
"The Kite Runner," composed by Alberto Iglesias
"Atonement," composed by Dario Marianelli
"Eastern Promises," composed by Howard Shore
"Into the Wild," composed by Michael Brook, Kaki King and Eddie Vedder

Original song -- motion picture

"Despedida," from "Love in the Time of Cholera" (music by Shakira and Antonio Pinto; lyrics by Shakira)
"Grace Is Gone," from "Grace Is Gone" (music by Clint Eastwood; lyrics by Carole Bayer Sager)
"Guaranteed," from "Into the Wild" (music and lyrics by Eddie Vedder)
"That's How You Know," from "Enchanted (music by Alan Menken; lyrics by Stephen Schwartz)
"Walk Hard," from "Walk Hard: The Dewey Cox Story" (music and lyrics by Marshall Crenshaw, John C. Reilly, Judd Apatow and Jake Kasdan)

Television series -- drama

"Big Love," HBO
"Damages," FX
"Grey's Anatomy," ABC
"House," Fox
"Mad Men," AMC
"The Tudors," Showtime

Performance by an actress in a television series -- drama

Patricia Arquette, "Medium" (NBC)
Glenn Close, "Damages" (FX)
Minnie Driver, "The Riches" (FX)
Edie Falco, "The Sopranos" (HBO)
Sally Field, "Brothers & Sisters" (ABC)
Holly Hunter, "Saving Grace" (TNT)
Kyra Sedgwick, "The Closer" (TNT)

Performance by an actor in a television series -- drama

Michael C. Hall, "Dexter" (Showtime)
Jon Hamm, "Mad Men" (AMC)
Hugh Laurie, "House" (FOX)
Bill Paxton, "Big Love" (HBO)
Jonathan Rhys Meyers, "The Tudors" (Showtime)

Television series -- musical or comedy

"30 Rock," NBC
"Californication," Showtime
"Entourage," HBO
"Extras," HBO
"Pushing Daisies," ABC

Performance by an actress in a television series -- musical or comedy

Christina Applegate, "Samantha Who?" (ABC)
America Ferrera, "Ugly Betty" (ABC)
Tina Fey, "30 Rock" (NBC)
Anna Friel, "Pushing Daisies" (ABC)
Mary-Louise Parker, "Weeds" (Showtime)

Performance by an actor in a television series -- musical or comedy

Alec Baldwin, "30 Rock" (NBC)
Steve Carell, "The Office" (NBC)
David Duchovny, "Californication" (Showtime)
Ricky Gervais, "Extras" (HBO)
Lee Pace, "Pushing Daisies" (ABC)

Miniseries or motion picture made for television

"Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee," HBO
"The Company," TNT
"Five Days," HBO
"Longford," HBO
"The State Within," BBC

Performance by an actress in a miniseries or motion picture made for television

Bryce Dallas Howard, "As You Like It" (HBO)
Queen Latifah, "Life Support" (HBO)
Debra Messing, "The Starter Wife" (USA)
Sissy Spacek, "Pictures of Hollis Woods" (CBS)
Ruth Wilson, "Jane Eyre" (PBS)

Performance by an actor in a miniseries or motion picture made for television

Adam Beach, "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (HBO)
Ernest Borgnine, "A Grandpa for Christmas"
Jim Broadbent, "Longford" (HBO)
Jason Isaacs, "The State Within" (BBC)
James Nesbitt, "Jekyll" (BBC)

Performance by an actress in a supporting role in a series, miniseries or motion picture made for television

Rose Byrne, "Damages" (FX)
Rachel Griffiths, "Brothers & Sisters" (ABC)
Katherine Heigl, "Grey's Anatomy" (ABC)
Samantha Morton, "Longford" (HBO)
Anna Paquin, "Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee" (HBO)
Jaime Pressly, "My Name Is Earl" (NBC)

Performance by an actor in a supporting role in a series, miniseries or motion picture made for television

Ted Danson, "Damages" (FX)
Kevin Dillon, "Entourage" (HBO)
Jeremy Piven, "Entourage" (HBO)
Andy Serkis, "Longford" (HBO)
William Shatner, "Boston Legal" (ABC)
Donald Sutherland, "Dirty Sexy Money" (ABC)



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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:08:17 AM CST

    those aren't winners

    by greenleaf1

    they're nominees, might wanna fix that.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:08:30 AM CST

    ah, the bold comes in

    by greenleaf1

    nevermind

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:13:03 AM CST

    Juno got shafted indeed

    by spencertrilby

    fits with the movie at least.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:15:40 AM CST

    Pleased about Damages

    by photoboy

    Less pleased about Dexter not winning anything...

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:16:28 AM CST

    Golden Globes much better this year

    by mr.meanie

    I actually watched it, instead of reading about it the next day.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:16:53 AM CST

    Yay Britland!

    by thinboyslim.

    Good work guys and gals!

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:18:07 AM CST

    Atonement is the biggest bore of the year.

    by riskebiz

    Honestly ... how could anyone look at that mess and think it was Best Picture? Considering the competition ... it is downright ridiculous! I guess it is this years English Patient. Actually, it is worse than the English Patient. Absolutely a terrible film.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:18:36 AM CST

    I'll say it once more - JUNO was not shafted.

    by brokentusk

    The film has already received more awards and recognition that it needed to receive, if you ask me. I saw it a long time before it was released – before the hype built up around it – and I thought it was a cute, sweet and funny little film. However, much like LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE before it, the film was completely over-praised and vilified, winning awards left, right and centre. Sure, I do think Ellen Page was great, and I do think Diablo Cody's script was smart, taught and extremely witty, but in a year filled with films like THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES BY THE COWARD ROBERT FORD, NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN, THERE WILL BE BLOOD, CHARLIE WILSON'S WAR, SWEENEY TODD, to name but a few... JUNO was just a nice, cute film. Plus, it's doing exceptionally well at the box office, so we can't cry for Jason Reitman. No, JUNO was far from shafted.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:19:06 AM CST

    you have a problem with juno?

    by latchkey_kid

    the movie was crap and ellen page wasn't the star of that film. bateman and garner were. every scene they weren't in just felt flat and forced thanks to page and cera and diablo's bad writing. i have more of a problem with the fact that extras beat 30 rock or that the coens didn't win for direction.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:20:33 AM CST

    I would say Alec Baldwin got shafted

    by skimn

    just for his "therapy" scene with Tracy Morgan..but the true award should go once again to Mr. Gervais. I caught the 2nd season DVD a couple of months ago, and he is pretty damn brilliant.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:22:06 AM CST

    I AGREE! JUNO was NOT shafted!

    by darthgreenspawn

    It's waaaay overrated and kinda boring... BTW: WTG Javier Bardem - THERE IS JUSTICE!

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:23:14 AM CST

    Best Golden Globes EVER!

    by hellboy

  • Jan 14, 2008 10:25:59 AM CST

    Atonement?!

    by kwisatzhaderach

  • Jan 14, 2008 10:26:14 AM CST

    I was so excited to hear Billy Bush's opinions!

    by orionsangels

    I was actually hoping Nancy O Dell would just shoot him, but yeah. I loved all the hype for certain nominees leading up to this award show and then watching who won, like Marion Cotillard for La Vie en Rose. WHO THE FUCK? I had no idea who this human being was, let alone that the movie even existed. I felt bad for Nikki Blonsky. She was just too excited. I mean just flipped over a glass table when she found out she was nominated and went into a spaz, that looked like she was getting tazzed. "DON'T TAZ ME BRO!" That coupled with the media hyping her up and watching her get ready for all her appearances. I imagine her sitting at home crying, after they announced, wait let me scroll up. I forgot the name of the winner. copy and paste -> Marion Cotillard was the winner. How anticlimatic. This was finally a chance for a fatty to get some recognition in Hollyweird. Now it's over. She'll lose weight now of course, either by an operation or have a trainer. Always happens, look at ugly betty.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:28:25 AM CST

    The taped drum roll got me

    by profheff

    Really...when they were ready to open the envelope, the "reader of the winner" didn't even wait for the BA-DA DUM DA-DUM DUM. Really - whoever came up with the idea that they should have a drum beat after every envelope opening should be thrown out of the business forever.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:31:15 AM CST

    Who cares?

    by catlettuce4

    All of you are idiots.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:32:12 AM CST

    Yeah next time have Nancy O Dell do a striptease

    by orionsangels

    Make it more interesting. Having to sit 1hr to see these lame winners though, imagine 4hrs to see those reults. Kudos to the strikers

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:34:51 AM CST

    I agree

    by lance2769

    The winners were truely scattered everywhere. No one decisive winner here in a year of very strong films, however in a year when the consensus is that 'No Country For Old Men' and 'There Will Be Blood' are the stronger films of the group. I got the feeling the Foreign Press was trying to award the films and actor/actresses who will not get any attention come Oscars (Atonement, Julie Christie, Johnny Deppm, Marion Cottilard, and finally Julian Schnabel). I mean, who the fuck is Julian Schnabel? Over the Cohen Brothers?

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:36:36 AM CST

    just wait for the oscars

    by the knight

    Globes are pointless. Hope PTA gets a best director nom. I really liked juno as well. Having Cody there may make the oscars more "hip" I suppose?

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:38:26 AM CST

    TIM BURTON/ NO OSCAR LOVE

    by the knight

    I'm now realizing that Tim has never received any Oscar love... Does the academy have something against him?

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:38:35 AM CST

    I watched about ten minutes of it...

    by francis begbie

    and all I have to say is Bill Bush is the biggest tool I have ever seen. Watching him reminded me of the seen in "The Weatherman" when someone is watching Nic Cage and says "He has an asshole face." Thats how I felt about Billy Bush, he's a tool with an asshole face.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:38:50 AM CST

    Oscars will go on though!

    by orionsangels

    No matter what. They will the fill the audience with people off the street and have homeless people announce the winners, but the Oscars will go on. This is the Oscars, even if a Nuclear war happened. Mutants would announce the winners.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:42:50 AM CST

    It was short

    by beetlegeuse

    and hence much better than a regular award show.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:42:53 AM CST

    Golden Globes are a joke

    by moseschrute

    Atonement? Seriously?
    And does anyone know why There Will Be Blood wasn't nominated for Best Score? What gives?
    That being said, Blanchett, Bardem, Day-Lewis, Schnabel, and most of the TV awards were well deserved.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:49:06 AM CST

    I was watching the Porn Golden Globes

    by bobo_vision

    The winners were "No Cunts for Old Men", "There Will Be Pud", "Poon-O", "A Toned Cunt", and "Weeney Rod".

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:52:22 AM CST

    oh please ricarleite

    by orionsangels

    You're not gonna tell me actually enjoy that prewritten banter between the actors, as they're about to present an award. Reading the telepromoter. It's so corny! I'd rather they improvise.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:52:44 AM CST

    Would like to take a crowbar to Billy Bush

    by skimn

    and his idiot cohost, but damn, an awards presentaion that was an hour long?? That could've been condensed to even less if not for the cutaway to the EW writer and some "reporter" ("This is so exciting!!!")?? Maybe its the wave of the future..

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:53:50 AM CST

    MAD MEN

    by mr. nice gaius

    FUCK YEAH! Best new show on TV.Ladies and gentlemen...do yourselves a favor and get to know Don Draper, Roger Sterling, Pete Campbell, and JOOOAAANNN!!!

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:54:36 AM CST

    How will Entertainment Tonight cover the Globes tonight!

    by orionsangels

    Oh noooz! They'll have to acknowledge the competition, billy bush and nancy o dell. This is what keeps me up at night, haha!

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:57:33 AM CST

    Damn You Golden Globes.

    by damnmichaelbay

    I couldn't give a shit about the Golden Globes... heck most awards ceremonies are just televised self congratulatory ass-kissing, as Hollywood gathers around and gives itself a collective handjob.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:01:43 AM CST

    When I saw Billy Bush was hosting I almost

    by big jim

    didn't watch. That guy makes Melissa Rivers look credible.I was under the impression that the WGA agreed not to picket the telecast because they wouldn't be showing any footage. But there were clips-a-plenty (the only thing that made it watchable). Did they fake-out the WGA? Or did I get it wrong?

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:02:46 AM CST

    Glad it was short too!

    by super rabbi

    Didn't have to wait all those hours for results. Plus I agree, Nancy O'Dell shoulda done a striptease.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:03:24 AM CST

    Tim Burton's movies have won Oscar's though.

    by lutz

    Beetlejuice, Batman, Ed Wood and Sleepy Hollow all won Oscar's.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:07:35 AM CST

    Orion

    by skimn

    Yes the NBC televised awards had the "Yes, even stupider than George" Bush and Nancy O'Duh, but TV Guide Channel had live coverage from the hotel that featured Mary "I wish I didn't have an andriod" Hart.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:10:17 AM CST

    Atonement?

    by mr gorilla

  • Jan 14, 2008 11:10:18 AM CST

    Fey was the only network series winner last night.

    by pennsy

    All the rest came from cable. But the TV nominees left a lot to be desired, namely who was left out (BSG, FNL, How I Met Your Mother, etc.).

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:16:29 AM CST

    He hasnt won the Big

    by emeraldboy

    prizes, though. Best driector or best film. Burton's film have won in technical categories.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:19:40 AM CST

    Anyone notice

    by flying spaghetti monster

    How they were sucking the Writers guild's cock..especially when Tina Fey won..not that I disagree but still it was funny to see.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:22:31 AM CST

    Fucking EXTRAS?

    by v'shael

    Entourage was easily the better show. Even Californication has been much much better than Gervais' latest offering.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:23:14 AM CST

    Where is Billy on the Bush family tree?

    by skimn

    Inbred second cousin? Abortion that lived? Anybody know..?

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:24:56 AM CST

    V'Shael

    by skimn

    Are you avin' a laff? Is 'e avin' a laff??

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:25:02 AM CST

    The Globes were in an impossible position thanks to WGA...

    by pennsy

    And even then, a 31-minute press conference? Bobby Ewing, anyone, so we can just write off the GG's as a bad dream?

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:27:38 AM CST

    ABC and Gil Cates gotta cowboy up with the Oscars...

    by pennsy

    And say they WILL go on, WGA strike or not. Draw a line in the sand and dare the writers (and SAG) to cross it. Both sides are more concerned now about *winning* than they are about a settlement. If the Oscars were delayed or cancelled, it would, IMO, be the trigger for all-out war between the AMPTP and the WGA/SAG. I'm pretty much convinced of that now. Is it really necessary to destroy the village in order to save it?

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:28:26 AM CST

    JUNO has been completely overrated

    by industrykiller!

    More of a vehicle for cute, unrealistic dialogue than any sort of character study. Not to mention our main character is clearly just a 30 year old screenwriter using a 16 year old high school movie character as an avatar for rapid fire pop culture jokes. I will never understand how year after year after year people keep falling for this precocious,adorable, and most of all boring schtick i.e. Little Miss Sunshine and Napoleon Dynamite.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:31:07 AM CST

    Where's Cali's Govern-ator? Can't he force both sides

    by pennsy

    back to the negotiation table?

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:31:09 AM CST

    Why were the Globes picketed?

    by aversiontherapy2

    I don't get why the WGA chose to picket the Globes and prevent them from putting on an unwritten show. Other, less public, award ceremonies went ahead with celebrities in attendance, why pick on the Globes thus prevent SAG members from attending any possible ceremony? Much as I agree the writers should get their due I don't understand why they would shut down an event like this that brings millions into the local economy and lets industry people, including writers, have a little fun. It just seems dumb and the WGA look like bullies to me.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:38:38 AM CST

    I agree IndustryKiller!, about JUNO

    by orionsangels

    They live in this alternate reality, where everyone talks in a soothing calming voice. It's like she could have come home and said, I just shoot three people at my school, but don't worry. I have a hideout and took care of everything. The parents have little reaction, oh no. Well will just work through it. Make sure though to make witty jokes about morgan freeman if the cops get ya.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:43:28 AM CST

    PTA wasn't even nominated for Best Director?

    by knuckleduster

    Idiots. But hey, these awards hardly mean anything anyway.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:43:42 AM CST

    Orionsangels

    by industrykiller!

    I hear that's the plot of Juno 2, and this time she'll throw in Voltron jokes ;)

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:44:18 AM CST

    Atonement?!

    by crazyjoedavola

    What a crock of shit. There Will Be Blood and No Country For Old Men got robbed. Two phenomenal gritty films and they give it to this sappy award-baiting flick? Please.

    Hopefully the Oscar voters correct the error and give the award to a film with a little more backbone.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:48:04 AM CST

    Also hated Juno.

    by critch

    I'm also jumping on the hatewagon for Juno. I hated that movie so much I walked out an hour in. Horrible writing, and I couldn't get past how this girl, supposedly so smart about everything, having planned getting it on with this guy for a year, didn't plan any sort of protection? No pills? No condoms? I didn't feel anything for her, and I wanted to yell at the screen for these idiots to speak in something resembling a realistic voice. Everyone from the 7/11 guy to her best friend all had the same voice, all quirky and trying to be witty. It failed on all counts. It's sad because underneath all this there's a good movie trying to break out, a sweet love story that wants to be told, buried under layers of dreck.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:50:05 AM CST

    "Californication," Showtime

    by fawst

    WHY WAS THIS NOMINATED? Are you fucking serious?Wow.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:52:18 AM CST

    Skimm

    by emeraldboy

    the finale was the best thing on over christmas. Atonement was an oscar fave for one reason. Joe wright 7 minute long sequence where he showed the ordinariness of war. Soilders come from all of walks of life. That is a very powerful sequence where mcavoy goes for a walk along the beach and the camera follows with no sound. If you hate this movie, you proably think its a history lecture but it is not. its about a girl who witnesses a something of misunderstanding and that leads to very serious consequences. Mcavoy goes off to war. The girl will later become vannessa Redgrave. Atonement has long being considered Ian McEwan's masterpiece. The young girl is a storyteller with a huge imagination. Soairse ronan from Carlow has been getting rave reviews.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:53:11 AM CST

    Node32774

    by aversiontherapy2

    I didn't read anything about the Globes people considering non-union writers, surely that would be suicide for an awards show honouring the very people they're snubbing. All I heard was that, for whatever reason, the WGA was going to picket an unwritten Golden Globes ceremony and so SAG or any other union wouldn't cross it.Perhaps I'm wrong, I don't read the industry news.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:58:20 AM CST

    Just re-read my earlier post.

    by brokentusk

    I used the word "vilified" to describe the reaction to JUNO, which isn’t even close to being the right word. I thought it meant "over-praised", when in fact it means completely the opposite of that. No one cares, but just thought I'd point out my blunder.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:58:49 AM CST

    Pleased to see Sweeney Todd and Mad Men get props.

    by rbatty024

    Sweeney Todd was the only musical I could actually sit through. Maybe it was because there was no dance choreography. I like musicals on stage but on film they tend to fall flat. Mad Men is easily the best new show in years.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 12:06:13 PM CST

    props for Julian Schabel nabbing the best director award

    by ultron ver 2.0

    Diving Bell and Butterfly is an amazing movie....check it out and you'll see why Coen brother go home empty handed.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 12:15:34 PM CST

    Nice to see Sweeney Todd win... but what the fuck??!

    by kirbymanly

    How did ANYTHING win over No Coutry or There Will Be Blood?!

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  • Jan 14, 2008 12:22:52 PM CST

    Duchovny swearing on live TV...

    by bert fischer

    On the TV GUIDE channel post-show, Duchovny called in and said "Fuck" twice not knowing he was live. It was in the context of a story telling why Gandolfini always won awards, cuz he could say "fuck" on tv. It was the most spontaneous moment of the night.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 12:26:00 PM CST

    Mostly Incorrect...

    by bone-in foray

    I agree that The Diving Bell & The Butterfly deserves something as it was an incredible movie and best director seems fitting. But to award Sweeney Todd and Atonement as winners for anything other than worst films of the year seems unjust...and the list pretty much keeps that theme all the way through. I've always been a big time Burton fan, but his latest is really the pits... I don't care how good it looks. And if anything Helena deserved a GG - not Johnny. I've seen a few posts mentioning how worthless the GG are (and they are) but as is usually the case, they also serve as a sign of things to come Oscar-wise. Prepare for the worst.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 12:29:25 PM CST

    American Gangster shafted as well

    by greatwhitenoise

    Would have liked to see at least one go that film's way (even if Ridley Scott didn't make the DGA shortlist). Bah.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 12:42:20 PM CST

    who gives a

    by frankenfickle

  • Jan 14, 2008 12:46:26 PM CST

    Juno "haters" are just jealous . . .

    by gruntybear

    . . . that they didn't think of dialogue that clever first. Y'know, the same reason they'll all hate the found footage aspects of "Cloverfield" in the next week. "Because *I* didn't make that leap from Buffy-speak to Juno-speak as Cody Diablo did, it sucks out loud." Whatev, kiddies. I dare you to show me any other film this year (or this past couple of years for that matter) with a teenage protagonist as whipsmart and instantly charming as Juno. I'd take 10 painstakingly scripted "Juno's" over big budget dreck like "300" and "Transformers" any day.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 12:46:46 PM CST

    Awards...hmmm

    by philvis

    I looked online today to see the winners and nominees. I have not heard of half of the shows that won awards. Mad Men? Longford? Those Hollywood pompous asses should be showing up to collect their awards. Piss on the writers and their bitching. If I have to watch Cops and American Gladiators for the next year, so be it. Bring on the crackheads and spandex! I guarantee you that messengers for the Hollywood folks found their way to where the swag was being kept. Gotta get that gift bag full of goodies! Hollywood execs need to pack up and move to a right to work state and be done with all this BS.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 12:48:44 PM CST

    glad vedder one

    by bmacsmith

    good soundtrack

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  • Jan 14, 2008 12:49:27 PM CST

    Perfect Award Show... almost

    by acappellaman

    Unlike Quint and most of the "pros" out there, my wife and I enjoyed the efficiency of the award show. Adding pauses before each announcement would've been irritating as hell. What an awful suggestion. I hate it when the game shows do that - especially with the cut to a commercial right before. Drives us nuts. This was quick & lean and got the job done quickly. We didn't care for their comments after the announcements, though. That was stupid and pointless. I don't mind some of the extra stuff that comes with the Oscars show, but Golden Globes needs to be quicker. The Oscars just seems more official to me. GG just doesn't hold as much weight.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:05:13 PM CST

    Juno is..........

    by jesus fux

    a slightly clever mostly mediocre film at best. Sure-- the acting is good, but is there anything really memorable there? I enjoyed it but will I really remember it in five years? No. The problem is-- people started believing their own hype with this one......

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:07:01 PM CST

    Mad Men and AMC

    by skimn

    The usually reliable TV reviewers at EW give Vince Gilligan's Breaking Bad a B+. So, AMC is becoming the next mini-FX..? Who'd thunk it. Can't wait to see Malcolm's Dad go officially nutso.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:07:43 PM CST

    Where's the AVN talk back?

    by radjac33

    That and I would rather see Cody's Candy Girl as a movie than Juno.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:17:27 PM CST

    JUNO

    by lecter1914

    First, I'll say I did enjoy the film...that is I enjoyed everything about the film but Juno. She ws just to grating. I dont mind witty and clever dialogue, ut it just becamse grating coming from her mouth. I mean, upon many re-evaluations, I dont even think Juno was all that likeable. She was kinda a bitch if you really think about it. For example, take the scene where her step mom is telling her how much she sacrificed for Juno and Juno mocks her and her dream of getting a dog. I liked everything about the film except Juno, she was just too much. And I never thought I would say this..but Jennifer Garner was the best thing about the film.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:21:41 PM CST

    Juno was not a comedy....

    by killdozer

    I thought it was an ok movie, but I can't remember laughing at all. And I agree about Jennifer Garner, she did a great job. I was all set to groan at the scene where she kneels in front of Juno's pregnant belly to talk to her baby, but somehow she made it work.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:24:48 PM CST

    Best faux news conference I've seen since the

    by the podosphere

    FEMA briefing on the California wildfires.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:25:49 PM CST

    best actor

    by robosushi

    there is no way anyone would have won that over daniel dey-lewis. god damn he is a mad man in "there will be blood"

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:35:51 PM CST

    The globes...what a joke.

    by sappers forward

    I'm great, you're great, he's great, she's great ok lets go snort some coke...

    Fucking rediculous actors. Just a bunch of coke heads out stroking eachothers ego. BTW...didn't even know the Globes were on last night...too busy watching Family Guy.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:37:53 PM CST

    Juno was only OK...

    by seekshelter

    it seemed like a lot of the spitfire dialog was lifted from an episode Gilmore Girls... but toned down some. which was a good thing. however, it did make teenage pregnancy seem... 'not so bad'. she really didn't have much friction with having a baby. ... somehow, i found it hard to believe that a woman wrote this.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:42:55 PM CST

    I Saw american gangster

    by emeraldboy

    I didnt gell at all as a film despite the talent In front of the screen and behind it.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:43:01 PM CST

    Michael C Hall should have won for Dexter!!!

    by stovetopstuffin'

    He was robbed!!! That whole show was robbed!!

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:43:33 PM CST

    Pennsy

    by the podosphere

    With all due respect, you don't know what the frakk you're talking about. Here are a couple of places to get yourself educated:

    http://unitedhollywood.blogspot.com/

    http://www.thepodosphere.com

    The first one is some WGA members staying on top of this thing, and they're doing an amazing job. See the article called "Hard Ball and Awards Shows," and take a look at the responses to that post. The latter is my blog, and I wrote about the GG's. See the last couple of paragraphs.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:44:55 PM CST

    gruntybear

    by animalstructure

    Congrats! You're the first poster to say that those who hated Juno are just jealous and secretly love the movie and wish they could write like Devil Cody. Isn't it nice when the world so easily fits your preconceived notions? It isn't at all possible that these people actually thought the movie sucked balls? They must all be jealous if they can't see the genius of Juno! Anyone actually see the script Cody wrote? Doesn't bear too much resemblance to the shooting script which was HEAVILY reworked by a noted industry screenwriter. But let's not bring the truth into such a discussion. Nah, fuck that. Juno was a masterpiece and anyone who dislikes the film is just in denial.




    In other news, I am very glad Juno got nothing. Just as I am glad TWBB was virtually shut out.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:57:17 PM CST

    Juno smart? Charming? What?

    by critch

    "I dare you to show me any other film this year (or this past couple of years for that matter) with a teenage protagonist as whipsmart and instantly charming as Juno. "

    Um, your whipsmart protagonist managed to get knocked up despite a year of planning and preparation. And charming? I thought she was annoying at best and just plain stupid at worst.

    By the way, for everyone so up on "Diablo"'s writing ability, consider that two years before this thing came out, there was a South Korean movie called "Jeni, Juno" about a teenage girl named Juno having a baby and dealing with that and the guy she was in love with. Look for yourself here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0453115/

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  • Jan 14, 2008 1:58:43 PM CST

    Atonement is deader than HD DVD

    by alwaysthere

  • Jan 14, 2008 1:59:32 PM CST

    the juno backlash is finally here!! phew....

    by slappy jones

    i was wondering where you guys where. for a minute i thought you weren't coming.....but then I realised you are as predictable as my morning stool. I could have written your posts for you you are so easy to predict. wankers.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 2:20:25 PM CST

    record, straight

    by lagomorph

    Atonement was a good sometimes great movie. The real win here was for best sound. Loved the score which used the old typewriter sounds.

    Contrary to uninformed popular believe it is not a "sweeping romantic epic", it's an evil little film about lives destroyed.

    It's actual quite a small, internal film despite the grandness of its locales.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 2:25:26 PM CST

    I'll do the same with Juno that I did with Little Miss Sunshine

    by alwaysthere

    I watched LMS on HBO in HD close to one year after all the award crap died down. I will do the same with Juno. Too much hype, startup backlash, and other pandering crap to fairly judge it today or tomorrow.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 2:35:00 PM CST

    Sheeet!HOW WAS "THE WIRE" NOT EVEN NOMINATED?

    by jah_kingdom

    Entourage, is mildly amusing but come on. Just off the top of my head Rescue Me, The Shield are better shows than any of the one's nominated. Even The Sarah Silverman Show is head and shoulders above Entourage. At least Big Love got some respect.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 2:40:35 PM CST

    Well, it seems like I'm the only person...

    by lenny nero

    ...who absolutely loves "Atonement."

    Oh, and if you don't even know what Mad Men is, this might not be the site for you.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 2:53:24 PM CST

    Billy Bush = nephew to the pres

    by arcadiands

    But not son to Jeb Bush in Fla. Thats the extent of what I know. Billy got his start doing an am drive radio show in DC, but when Bush Jr won his first term, Billy decided it was time to move on, fearing that his name and rumored associations with DC politics might make his 'i want to be the clean-cut Howard Stern' efforts difficult.
    America has voted and he is NOT the one that we want.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 2:55:13 PM CST

    Honest to Blog!

    by nighthawk at the diner

    Juno is about as "Independent" as Ron fucking Paul.

    Critics and fan boys eat out of Cody's snatch because she used to be a stripper.

    Her next flick sounds like a lame Tarantweeno rip-off which we all know is ripped off from some lame Asian flick.

    Why can't these hacks find better places to steal from? Honest to blog!

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  • Jan 14, 2008 2:59:30 PM CST

    More TWBB love required at the Oscars

    by performingmonkey

    Fucking hell not even a PTA nom for the Globes. He fucking rocked this movie. Day-Lewis, of course, is the biggest no-brainer since...since very long time. Classic performance. Deserved of the Globe and Oscar.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:00:04 PM CST

    Too many good films...

    by tourist

    ...There was just waaay too much on offer. So I guessed they just kind of figuratively, or maybe literally tossed a dart, knowing that no matter who it lands on, your getting quality. Oh, and Atonement wasn't bad at all. I didn't enjoy it as much as Into The Wild or No Country For Old Men, but it was still damn good.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:01:48 PM CST

    just got juno

    by krycek08

    should i even watch it?
    also, did anyone notice TWBB didn't seem like PTA's normal style of directing?

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:06:09 PM CST

    To follow the jealousy logic...

    by tourist

    ...Jealous of the creators of Cloverfield for not thinking of the found footage concept first? I don't need to be jealous, I could just follow their creative method. Blatantly rip off someone elses idea, but make sure its an idea at least half a dozen other film makers have ripped off too, and then suck a TV producers cock to get thrown some scraps, feed the ego of some online fanboys, and wait for the semi-normals to spend hours and hours obssessing over clues that lead absolutely you back to square one.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:07:11 PM CST

    ITS NOT THAT

    by lecter1914

    I hated Juno. In fact, I think in every post I say I liked it. Its just I think its getting a bandwagon of hype. Its almost like...someone very important and popular said it was the best, funniest, and wittiest movie ever and everyone just wanted to agree because the cool kid said so.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:08:33 PM CST

    Let me get this straight...

    by mr. nice gaius

    The people who enjoyed JUNO found it to be clever, charming, and touching.The people who hated JUNO found it to be too precocious.Hmmm.Smart or too smart. What's a fella to do?!

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:11:32 PM CST

    Should add...

    by tourist

    ...That Atonements general concept is so tailored to the book form, that the film can never quite be great. But it was damn well made and entertaining. Considering there are people clamouring for American Gangster to receive awards, Atonement isn't an odd choice for best picture.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:13:08 PM CST

    best awards show ever

    by mcdowell_32000

    i wish they were all like this.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:15:27 PM CST

    Whenever I hear "Golden Globes"

    by dingbatty

    I keep thinking it is a show about Scarlett Johansson.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:16:16 PM CST

    Critch

    by the podosphere

    Yes, the South Korean movie shared a part of the title but that story was about parents trying to hide their child's pregnancy. Way different than Diablo Cody's take.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:26:26 PM CST

    Billy Bush

    by the alienist

    Everytime I see him I get the idea he'd be a great sleazy, nasty gay fuck...sorta drunk, maybe outdoors in an alley or carpark...

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:26:43 PM CST

    Juno = Pro Life Propaganda

    by nighthawk at the diner

    Also known as "Papa Don't Preach" the extended remix.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:31:07 PM CST

    The "Golden Globes" breast joke

    by arcadiands

    was funnier when Chevy Chase did it - in like, the early 80s. Get out of comedy. Once you start stealing bits from the likes of Chevy Chase, you have to know that its simply not for you.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:32:36 PM CST

    I understand, thepodosphere, and I read those two things.

    by pennsy

    But the WGA is treading a Wallenda-esque thin line and they are really risking losing public support if the Oscars are shitcanned. That may sound naive, and I DO support the writers. I refuse to believe there can't be a compromise for the Oscars, of all shows.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:35:31 PM CST

    ONCE was shafted

    by spanksteroflove

    Not even a nomination for best song? What a joke.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:38:14 PM CST

    Not Prolife

    by lecter1914

    Just because she didnt want to kill it doesnt necessarily mean it was propoganda.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:43:52 PM CST

    Signs of the Apocolypse

    by karuma

    The Golden Globes, like the Oscars and the SAG awards are, and have been always very far removed from reality. Occasionally, they get a few nominations or a winner right, but as for being able the choose the "best" in each one of these categories, it's a joke. "Big Love" and "Grey's Anatomy" nominated for best drama? Please.
    Of course, these groups have the right to nominate who they want, and popular doesn't necessarily mean good, but there were a lot more deserving selections.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:45:28 PM CST

    brokentusk - I think you used 'vilified' incorrectly...

    by zootrain

    vilified - "spread negative information about" However, if you wanted to say people are saying good AND bad things about it, I guess you're okay. But it was confusing.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 3:51:59 PM CST

    Golden Globes is like the Iowa Caucus's

    by c.k. lamoo

    These foreign aristocrats band together and give themselves authority to be "judges" and because they come before the Oscars, everybody thinks their opinions are somehow important. It just like how we let the farmers in Iowa jump ahead of everyone and take over our electoral process.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 4:04:28 PM CST

    Agreed

    by quint

    Once should have been nominated in Musical or Comedy Category... for Best Song I think it's going to fall under the bullshit "Music existed previously" rule. Falling Slowly is the best film song of 2007 by far... for the impact it has on the characters... and the fact that it's the soul of the film wrapped up in one song... Perfect.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 4:31:05 PM CST

    There Will Be Blood

    by mattyboy122

    Am I the only one who was disappointed by this flick? Maybe it was the hype, but I was REALLY looking forward to it and it just underwhelmed me. Day-Lewis was fantastic, but all of the praise about the wordless first 10 mins or so is bullshit. For the first few minutes it makes perfect sense for Daniel not to say anything since he's just in a hole working, but when he fucking strikes oil he doesn't say a word!? It struck me as pretentious and amateurish, like a silent student film where characters are in a situation where they HAVE to say something but don't. And Daniel ranged from being a cold-hearted bastard to just a childish jerk; he should've been one or the other, I felt. It'd be like having a scene in The Godfather Part II with Michael slapping Fredo around, taunting him repeatedly, then have him kill Fredo in the end. Anyway, the beginning and end of the film was clearly PTA aping Kubrick (the wordless introduction was very much like the Dawn of Man sequence in 2001 and the ending in Daniel's home, particularly the bowling alley, looks like it belongs in the Overlook Hotel). It wasn't a bad flick, but reviews compared it to The Godfather and Citizen Kane and it sure as fuck ain't either of those films. I didn't get around to seeing Assassination of Jesse James in the theatres but I'll pick it up on DVD; here's hoping that doesn't disappoint.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 4:38:59 PM CST

    No "Once" nomination for musical category = sham awards

    by tallboy66

    The put in fucking Across the Universe instead? and Knocked Up? Ninja, please. The Hollywood Foregin Press Association is the most crooked'd of all the award cremonies, anyway. Glad this one was boned up.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 5:03:02 PM CST

    Atonement is indeed the best movie of the year

    by dtpena

    Best directed at least

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  • Jan 14, 2008 5:13:47 PM CST

    Though the GGs lost credibility

    by dtpena

    When Across the Universe was nominated for best film M/C

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  • Jan 14, 2008 5:21:23 PM CST

    ZooTrain

    by brokentusk

    Yeah, I did use the word incorrectly. I corrected myself a few posts down though. Writing a thesis at the moment and my brain is exploding.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 5:21:34 PM CST

    i mean really...

    by mfcorleone

    Everyone knows Old Country was the best movie. Atonement? UGH!

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  • Jan 14, 2008 5:32:19 PM CST

    I don't consider myself a troll because of my comments on JUNO.

    by brokentusk

    I liked the film. The problem I have is that when I walked out of the theatre my friends and I said to each other, "That was cute," and we went on with our lives. The truth of the matter is that JUNO is indeed funny in places and it does have some great acting, but those things don’t add up to a film that will be remembered in history as being a major accomplishment in cinema. There are more deserving films this year, films that stay with you after you leave the theatre, that force you to think about them over and over again. The same thing happened with LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE, a film I also walked out of a thought was a nice, funny little film. Have I watched it again, bought the DVD, or even thought about it since? No, because it entertained me and that was that. It's not jealously if you like the film you think has been over-hyped, it's reality.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 5:47:01 PM CST

    Worst line in Juno (and there were many)

    by rainbowtrout1265

    "honest to blog"

    Ugh.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 6:06:45 PM CST

    Day-Lewis vs. Depp

    by garbage

    Day-Lewis, like Forest Whitaker last year, is "quietly" vacuuming up all the pre-Oscar awards. As I've said before, if anyone deserves to be a multiple Oscar winner, it's DDL; however, I'm a little worried that the Academy is going to use Depp's performance in Sweeney Todd to give him an Oscar/lifetime achievement award for being quirky and cool. (I like Depp, don't get me wrong.) If that happens, I'm tearing up my Academy membership and giving back all my Oscars.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 6:12:15 PM CST

    I was happy Atonement won

    by cherryvalance

    I wouldn't have minded if it was 'No Country for Old Men' though either. I haven't seen 'There Will Be Blood' yet, still waiting. The thing that really disappointed me after watching the telecast was that those winners getting up on stage and excepting would have been awesome and we missed it. 7 nominees for Best Picture Drama and all their tables cheering at the end would have been awesome but no we had to watch people read lists. btw, you guys should have watched CNN instead. Larry King was outraged when Daniel Day Lewis wasn't nominated. (He didn't realize that was the comedy category.)

    About this being brought down by the strike. I heard at one point that the WGA were offered the same deal that Letterman gave them by the people who put on the Globes and they didn't take it. My thinking was that they wanted the show to be destroyed no matter what. Because even after it was originally "cancelled" there were still supposed to be parties that the stars could attend and then just walk over and pick up their awards and do press if they wanted. But they said they'd picketed that too so the parties got scrapped right after that. After the press conference last night I heard reporters calling it a victory for the WGA. The Critics Choice awards went forward. The Spirit Awards are alright. And supposedly the SAG awards are going to be the big show this year. I mean that could never be cancelled right? So I think it's obvious that the goal was to bring the Globes crashing down no matter what. Just to assert "their" power.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 6:31:42 PM CST

    Daniel Plainview is a Saint

    by krycek08

    compared to today's average yuppie business man.
    He only killed 2 people and there was no profit in either killing.
    Should have made him a real monster.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 7:35:46 PM CST

    Atonement has Keira Knightley.

    by pennsy

    Nuff said for me. :)

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  • Jan 14, 2008 7:42:05 PM CST

    Could gender have a role in Juno's....

    by gqtaste

    favorability? What I'm asking is this another Sex and the City type deal? Where men hate it and women really dig it?

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  • Jan 14, 2008 8:17:43 PM CST

    ONCE is where it's at.

    by felix_happer

    Atonement? Fucking Anglophiles.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 8:49:08 PM CST

    NCFOM was robbed by Atonement? wtf.

    by mstique

    Ugh.

    Also, Billy Bush is an irritating, giant sized Oompa-Loompa who must disappear from my television. I started watching for 10 minutes but could not take hearing his pointless opinions and winner bashing any longer. Ass hat.

    On a side note, I'm a female and I disliked Juno also. It's not a disaster, but it's severely over hyped.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 8:56:25 PM CST

    Pennsy, once again, Speaks The Truth

    by chromedome

    Atonement has Keira OMG Knightley. This is sufficient.That said, I would probably have voted for No Country as best film overall. I was happy to see that Atonement won for best score--the score was amazing.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 8:57:51 PM CST

    Once: not seen enough probably

    by chromedome

    I heard how great it was, but could not find it in any theater--bought the dvd and have not had time to watch.One would think the Globey people would have watched it, though...

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  • Jan 14, 2008 9:31:10 PM CST

    that eddie vedder song is fucking great

    by slappy jones

    and deserved to win. its the best thing he has ever done that is for sure.....

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  • Jan 14, 2008 9:38:59 PM CST

    Pennsy part deux

    by the podosphere

    First off, as a SAG member who has picketed and marched in solidarity with the writers, thank you. The WGA does appreciate public support and they've expressed this frequently and in a variety of ways. And I personally appreciate your support.

    Now, on to my normal talkback persona.

    Yes, I would far prefer to see AMPAS hand out their hardware too. But again, it ain't the WGA that's the snag here. AMPTP ("Another Money Pinching Tiny Penis" according to Kathy Griffin) refuses to even come back to the table. The WGA signed an interim today Media Rights Capital, which does scripted stuff primarily for the Internet. That deal in particular, because it's primarily a new media company that doesn't have other channels of distribution of any note, really proves the WGA's position that their requests are reasonable.

    Now if one company makes a deal, that could be a fluke. Or a company run by a WGA member. Two? Well, Harvey's a competitive so and so. I think the WGA's up to four now, and negotiations are ongoing with a number of other companies, including Lions Gate if I had to guess.

    And by the way, the WGA cannot and is not shutting down the Oscars. All they can do is boycott, picket, and ask others like the members of SAG not to cross the picket line. AMPAS is free to throw an awards show. I'm sure Mary Hart and Billy Bush and the entire on-air staffs of E!,The TV Guide Channel, Access Hollywood, and Entertainment Tonight will be more than happy to to read off a list of winners' names. Oh, and Mike Huckabee. He supports the writers but hasn't yet figured out that means you're not actually supposed to cross their picket line.

    I've read some speculation that the studios and the networks are using the strike as their excuse to apply "shock doctrine" radical restructuring to their business models and corporate culture. Oh, and to terminate all sorts of development deals they wanted out of and to fire literally thousands of people (1,000 at Warners this week we fear). Naomi Klein wrote a great book about this process called "Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism".

    This is from today's Hollywood Reporter headlines: "CBS Paramount Network TV, 20th Century Studios, Warner Bros. TV and Universal Media Studios on Monday terminated overall deals under the so-called force majeure provision." ABC had already terminated a bunch of its deals.

    If you want to write letters to the microdicks who are holding the Oscars hostage and exploiting the strike to make management changes they didn't have the testicular fortitude to make otherwise, try Peter Chernin, Les Moonves, Jeff Zucker, Bob Iger, and the rest of the uber-rich who head up the top member companies of the AMPTP. They should hear from their customers, people who are not part of the industry, just the fans whose dollars and support they rely on.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:10:12 PM CST

    Overrated movies no one will ever

    by skywalkerfamily

    see unless they're forced too.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:29:58 PM CST

    Atonement won because of the use of the word Cunt

    by messi

    more power to it. Best use of the word Cunt ever. apart from me calling Industrykiller! one. Fucking loser cunt.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:35:24 PM CST

    Awards mean shit. Stephen Graham wasn't nominated

    by messi

    and he'll probably be overlooked by the Bafta's also, but it didn't stop him giving a better performance than Bardem as he did in This is England. A performance up there with the best of Bale, Day Lewis and Mortenson.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:40:46 PM CST

    No Country isn't the second coming

    by messi

    Like I said before, It's a great movie but it's just a well made movie, nothing groundbreaking, nothing that hasn't been done before. compare it to 2006's best movie. Children of Fucking Men, which destroyed souls and fucked up space time it was that good, original and groundbreaking.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:43:17 PM CST

    gruntybear

    by messi

    ummm what? you rather take a pretentious movie with unrealistic hyper dialogue over so called big budget dreck, even if the big budget dreck had unrealistic dialogue but wasn't pretentious? Seeing Robots fighting is much more fun than seeing some young girl go through pregnancy. film geeks. fucking hell.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 10:59:34 PM CST

    Real Losers----Us, People, and Joan Rivers

    by thelordofhell

    No red carpet coverage of the GGs to keep these things going. Dress makers around the world are starving here folks!! Get back to the table people!! There's still time to save the Oscar red carpet!!

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:07:36 PM CST

    Speaking of best performances. Sam Riley...

    by industrykiller!

    gave easily one of the best performances of the year in Control. If not the best. Subtle, powerful, and never anything less than totally human. It takes alot to bring humanity to someone who was a diety in the music world without it coming off like a Ray or Walk the Line, or hell even I'm not There, which let's face it was mostly just a series of impersonations. Sam Riley brought Ian Curtis to life in the same way Phillip Seymore Hoffman did Truman Capote but without the luxury of a crazy voice or iconic look. He more than deserves an Oscar nomination.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:09:19 PM CST

    And Messi we finally agree on something

    by industrykiller!

    Children of Men is a fucking masterpiece and with the grace of God hopefully very soon it will come to be known as the classic it is.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:29:44 PM CST

    Also Sweeney Todd = more overrated than Juno

    by industrykiller!

    Tim Burton is content with mediocrity yet again. The film was dour, passionlessly acted (a sin for any musical), and overly straitforward and lacking scope in it's direction. Hairspray got mroe right than Sweeney Todd. For an example of the boring direction look no further than the song Johanna, in which that kid simply walks up and down an empty dull street singing at the camera. The only time Burtons vision actually comes alive is when Lovetts is imagining the life her and Todd could lead if they were together. Otherwise is as dull as stale bread. And before someone comes up witht he bullshit excuse of "This version of England is supposed to be dead" know that there are ways of a setting being figuratively alive in it's spirit while portraying a visual deadness. Look no further than the previously mentioned Children of Men. Burton also cannot seem to direct scope. The film just jumps between different rooms in which character merely look morose, and despite the malaise, inexplicably burst into song. The actors, Depp included, don't seem to understand that someone can be depressed and passionate about a goal at the same time. Watching the film I couldn't help think that Sweeney couldn't care less about actually killing people and that it was more just something to do rather than something he NEEDED to do. The only actor who attempts to bring any sort of life to the film is Sascha Baron Cohen, who then dies immediately. The deaths, while cool, seem more like a gimmick and cheap attempt at flavor given the dull tone of the rest of the film. Then again I suppose the hot topic set and idiotic critics will love it given that it stars Johnny Depp (who was better when he made film average filmgoers hated) and has a neato color scheme (which is about all Burton is good for lately). And don't even get me started on Sondheim's poorly written songs. I found myself often wondering if he even attempted to write songs or rather just bad dialogue that he then had put to music.

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:30:37 PM CST

    If Striking Writers means No Joan Rivers

    by chromedome

    then I am suddenly torn between wanting an immediate end to the strike, and wanting an eternal strike.....

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  • Jan 14, 2008 11:39:34 PM CST

    Wow. Tim Burton finally got something!

    by skywalkerfamily

    Persistence pays!

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  • Jan 15, 2008 12:26:00 AM CST

    Striking NBC

    by buffywrestling

    The WGA *was* going to picket if the Globes were shown exclusively on NBC (a struck company). They WEREN'T - due to pressure from HFP - so there were no WGA picketers at the Globes press conference. This was stated in press releases before the event.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 12:27:00 AM CST

    if you can get past Kiera Knightley

    by krycek08

    At one ment isnt all that bad.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 12:50:21 AM CST

    Stephen Graham was good...

    by tourist

    ...But the role really wasn't the sort that grabs award attention. It should grab "Hire that dude for more films" attention though. If he wasn't so short and a little less ugly it could have been his Romper Stomper breakout moment. But This Is England got looked over completely anyway. Also, agree on the Atonement score. Fucking amazing.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 12:57:17 AM CST

    Oh, and...

    by tourist

    ...The writers are hurting good films. Thats all there is to it. Hollywood mega conglomeretes just don't need them. They could give a fuck about using them on TV. They can make more profitable shows without them, and dumber louder films without quality writers. All things audiences WANT. The audience just couldn't give a fuck about quality writing on TV or at the cinema. So they are helping put themselves out of work.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 1:19:01 AM CST

    Stephen Graham will get his due

    by messi

    may not get an award but that will sure as hell give him a good career. I mean Bale has never been nominated for a major award, hasn't stopped him having one of the best resume's ever and being one of the most in demand(by real directors and writers) and definately the most respected actor(by film geeks). Regardless if This is England has been overlooked, he gave the best performance, I couldn't have even imagined he was so short, such presence(partially directing but also just the way he acted).

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  • Jan 15, 2008 1:22:47 AM CST

    the podosphere holding the oscars hostage?

    by messi

    you make it sound like oscars mean something. this is the awards ceremony that gave ordinary people the award over raging bull. the one that didn't nominate Children of Men for best picture, Alfonso Cuaron for best director for said film and has never nominated Christian Bale or Gary Oldman for anything. Three 6 Mafia and Cher won something before Martin Scorsese did. CHER! Yeah real credibility.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 1:27:45 AM CST

    Atonement is anything but traditional and safe.

    by lenny nero

    The previews are intentionally misleading. In a good way. Seriously. Check that shit out.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 1:29:56 AM CST

    I second: Atonement must be an amazing film too...

    by snakecharmer

    beat There Will Be Blood, No Country for Old Men.

    Best Films for me.
    1.(Tie) There Will Be Blood and The Assassination of Jesse James.
    2. No Country for Old Men.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 2:21:20 AM CST

    Atonement taught me the word cunt existed in the 30's

    by messi

  • Jan 15, 2008 2:21:41 AM CST

    Peter Jackson for Sodam Yat

    by messi

  • Jan 15, 2008 2:23:23 AM CST

    Orionsangels you dumb fuck

    by messi

    you don't know shit about film. la vie en rose had one of the best performances by a woman ever. don't treat your ignorance as fact because you know fuck all about anything. here on AICN la vie en rose and marion's performance got high acclaim. dumb fuck.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 3:36:25 AM CST

    hate the juno hype sure but don't hate the film....

    by slappy jones

    its an incredibly sweet movie and i fucking loved it. oh and atonement is not the film I imagine a lot of people think it is...seriously...go into it without knowing anything and try to guess where the story is going. there is no way you can predict it....its a great film

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  • Jan 15, 2008 3:36:44 AM CST

    Charlie Wilsons War

    by fortunesfool

    isn't a comedy. It was just well written and used humour to get it's point across.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 4:00:08 AM CST

    Messi

    by the podosphere

    I didn't say I agree with all of the Academy's choices. Don't even get me started on Curtis Hanson getting robbed for LA Confidential because of some big ship sinking. BTW I got a chance to personally tell Curtis he was robbed.

    The Oscar talk is about whether the show will air because of the strike. It's gonna look like a news conference (Golden Globes redeux) if the AMPTP doesn't get reasonable.

    I can't even tell you which network is supposed to air the Oscars this year, but they stand to lose tens of millions of $$$ directly from not having the telecast, and there's possibly a $100m + hit to the studios in lost publicity for their nominated and winning content.

    But until we see them change their minds, they've done their math and they're okay with these losses. And they're okay with the hundreds of millions the Los Angeles has lost so far with the shutdown of production. Global warming hasn't reached the bloodstreams of these guys.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 4:01:04 AM CST

    Eastern Promises

    by kuldan

    Was the best movie I have seen last year, although I have yet to see "No Country For Old Men" and "There Will be Blood." The way people have been talking about those movies, it seems that it should (but won't) be a three-way run between these films for Best Picture, but "Atonement" will probably steal it. Then again, GG gave "Sense and Sensibility" Best Picture while the Oscars justifiably gave "Braveheart" Best Picture. "No Country" will win.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 4:21:07 AM CST

    la vie en rose

    by tourist

    I don't know enough about Piaf to know how accurate the impersonation was, but the peformance came across as campy and ridiculous. Did not help that the movie sucked hideous balls too. Really made for TV music biopic. Again, didn't help that the bitch was just plain dull. Sings some, becomes a junkie, dies.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 4:25:35 AM CST

    No Country...

    by tourist

    ...Most likely wont win. Its just waaaaay to bleak. Oscar voters don't seem to like message movies that deliver messages like "All of life is futility and pain". The only way they could have made NCFOM better, is if they had flashed the word FAIL at the end of the film. They'll probally give it to atonement. Which was fucking depressing in its own right. Man, that bitch must be the most loathsome character in film this year. LOL at the WICKED COOL line. The most unitentionally hillarious line possibly ever recorded. Almost as funny as the whole "Mess with one of us, mess with all of us" cheezy shit from Spider-Man 1.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 8:22:56 AM CST

    Sex issues with Juno

    by lecter1914

    I think that my be apart of it . I guess a movie almost entirely from a females point of view wouldnt rally speak to the male audience as much as a female audience. This may sound racist...but I think race might play a part it in it too. I'm black and most of my friends are and I think out of all of us that saw it together I was the only one that even remotely liked it.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 10:15:43 AM CST

    WGA refuses waiver for Grammys...

    by pennsy

    http://tinyurl.com/2g43ph.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 11:33:33 AM CST

    The Oscars..

    by skimn

    Since I doubt any resolution will be reached, Gil Cates should (besides having his balls encased in gold for helping produce Phoebe) keep Jon Stewart and treat it like The Daily Show:The Oscars Edition. Or on Letterman. If Tom Hanks can show up on Letterman, the rest of Hollywood can.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 11:52:29 AM CST

    I always wondered...

    by kuldan

    Why the GGs always seemed to throw in a few nominees of movies that either (a) nobody has yet to see, or (b) actually was a horrible movie.

    While I never actually saw them, I read more bad than good reviews on "Lars and the Real Girl," "Across the Universe" and "Grace is Gone," yet the GGs seem to nominate them regardless. If these films were released earlier in the year (when "Zodiac" was released), nobody would have remembered them. Like some of you have said before, nothing really 'groundbreaking' this year. No "Children of Men" or "Saving Private Ryan."

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  • http://www.cbc.ca/cp/entertainment/080115/e011511A.html

    LOS ANGELES - The Los Angeles Times reports today that four major studios have cancelled dozens of writers contracts, effectively conceding that the current television season cannot be salvaged.

    The newspaper says the move signals that development of next season's crop of new shows also could be in jeopardy because of the two-month-old writers strike.

    January typically marks the start of pilot season, but with writers not working, networks do not have a pool of scripts from which to choose.

    20th Century Fox Television, CBS Paramount Network Television, NBC Universal and Warner Bros. Television confirmed that they terminated development and production agreements.

    Studios typically pay $500,000 to $2 million a year per writer for them to develop ideas for new TV shows.

    The newspaper says overall, more than 65 deals with writers have been eliminated since Friday.

    MORE JOURNEYMAN?!?!?!?!?!!?

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  • Jan 15, 2008 12:26:04 PM CST

    Nothing groundbreaking, nothing to make you say

    by messi

    "I can't believe what i'm watching", the only thing that did that was a few scenes from Transformers like starscreams air battle. but in 2006 when I watched Children of Men, I was just blown away from start to finish from everything, thinking during the end battle scene "I cannot believe what I am watching, this is impossible, how did they film this, how did they even imagine this" whereas No Country for Old men was "I am really enoying this".

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  • Jan 15, 2008 1:00:09 PM CST

    I'm going to die for this but...

    by lecter1914

    I think Children Of Men was kinda boring. Ive been hilding back my feelings on this because I know you'll all absolutely kill me but, it was just boring. I mean, it was shot very well and technically speaking it was excellent and at times jaw dropping...but other than remembering what some of thelong sequences looked like I have no clue what the movie was about. I mean, I knew what itw as about when i was watching it but several months later nothing stuck with me but the imagery. I guess I'm retarded and not a movie lover.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 1:01:23 PM CST

    I should have said

    by lecter1914

    I dont remember what it was about. Saying I dont know what it was about would only give the enemy ammunition.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 2:27:51 PM CST

    skimn

    by the podosphere

    While I appreciate your enthusiasm for an improvised awards show - and that's actually not a bad idea - the one kink here is the WGA will be picketing, and SAG won't be crossing the picket.

    In other words, Mr. Stewart will be working with noted improvisers like Mary Hart and Billy Bush.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 3:05:40 PM CST

    enough worst.....the best line in juno

    by slappy jones

    "did you hear your the father" that line alone was enough tomake the film work for me.but i do agree that the line "honest to blog" is terrible. even garner was great in it and she is for the most part fucking awful. but she I think is not getting the credit i think she should get for her performance. in fact I like the script and all but all the praise bein gheaped upon diablo cody is a little misplaced. in the hands of a lesser director this film really could have been totally painful but reitman does a perfect job with his direction.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 3:21:02 PM CST

    Actually messi, I think Children of Men is far more overrated

    by thelastcleric

    Not that it wasn't a great film but after all the hype and accolades I was expecting something with the resonance of BladeRunner. No Country on the other hand met my expectations and lived up to the hype because the film comes off as damn near flawless. Granted, that's just my opinion but I think the Cohens will be remembered for this film more than any other. Maybe.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 3:26:00 PM CST

    Oscar Wiener?

    by nighthawk at the diner

    "That's one doodle that can't be undid, Home Skillet."

    Um...I smell Oscar? I smell something...

    Sure it's no "Chinatown" but it passes for genius these days.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 3:27:09 PM CST

    Tim Burton sucks....

    by neo4ever

    He'd be cooler if he were jack burton....HACK!

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  • Jan 15, 2008 3:31:30 PM CST

    golden compass passes $300m worldwide!

    by jacksonspole

    and, has yet to open in japan. so, f*ck all you haters...

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  • Jan 15, 2008 5:24:35 PM CST

    THANKS GUYS

    by lecter1914

    I thought I was alone in my opinion that Children Of Men was a tad over rated. I'll admit it was a technical masterpiece...but the story just wasnt engaging. A year after seeing it I dont even remember what itwas about at this point And "Honest To Blog" made me grind my teeth the first time I heard it too lol. Actually most of the words that came out of Juno's mouth kinda irritated me...but I loved Garner and pretty much the entire supporting cast. After finally seeing super bad...for some reason it made his performance in Juno seem better. I dont know why that is but now I see him in a much better light.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 6:02:20 PM CST

    There is pants-tightening excitement over Ellen Page?

    by pennsy

    Uh, ok. Whatever floats yer boat. :)

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  • Jan 15, 2008 6:05:19 PM CST

    Attonement

    by danslaluna

    I thought Atonement was a great movie but I haven't seen any of the other nominee's yet, so I can't say if it's deserving of best picture. I thought the long shot on the beach was one of the best I have seen lately. (Children of Men was another memorable long-shot kind of movie) I feel confident that I can say that I am glad it won best score and will probably with the Oscar for best score.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 6:20:32 PM CST

    Question for thepodosphere and any WGA supporter...

    by pennsy

    Just being devil's advocate, not pushing any hidden agenda. Why do the Grammys have to be dragged into this strike? What possible upside could there be from this?

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  • Jan 15, 2008 8:44:04 PM CST

    Wow, Messi, are you a socially functioning retard?

    by tourist

    I love Children Of Men and all, but did you not see Into The Wild, Diving Bell, Atonement, NCFOM or There Will Be Blood, to mention a FEW of the films that were just as good, if not better than Children Of Men, this year? And then you mention that lazy and poorly thrown together Transformers flick as containing the only impressive sequance of film making you've seen this year? The entire last third of that film was some of the worst shot and edited crap that cost over 30 mil ever thrown on a screen.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 8:45:42 PM CST

    Plus...

    by tourist

    ...My pants would get tight over Ellen Page if she wasn't so old.

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  • Jan 15, 2008 9:01:00 PM CST

    Pennsy

    by buffywrestling

    What channel are the Grammys aired on?

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  • Jan 15, 2008 10:02:43 PM CST

    And the worst movie score of the year...JUNO!

    by burnhollywood

    Coffeehouse, faux naive folk shit...

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