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Double Double Toil and Trouble? Two DEATHLY HALLOWS?
Ahoy, squirts! Quint here. I've been catching up with my Potters in high def this week and low and behold a nice juicy Potter rumor hits the nets.
Word is that the crew of the Potter series have been told to plan for the final book, THE DEATHLY HALLOWS, to be filmed and released as two movies. Apart from an obvious financial angle, this also makes a whole lot of sense considering just how dense and long the final book is. I love it and I love the idea of doing the book justice with more screen time dedicated to the adaptation, just as long as they release the movies MATRIX-like within a few months of each other. I think it'd also make the release of the final chapter of this huge franchise a little more special, too... makes it more of an event.
I've loved the Potter books and movies both, but there hasn't been one that has gotten it completely right. For my money, AZKABAN was the best movie of the series, but there are places I wish even that had explored more (like the origin of the Map). Overall, I love the increasing darkness of the movies so far... and my favorite reads are Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows, both of which are still to come.
It's exciting times and I can't wait to see what develops.
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or not?
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It makes sense to do this, but then again they were toying with the idea earlier on in the series, and nothing ever happened. If there's money to be made, though...they'll try it.
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tee hee
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the harry potter geeks of the world rejoice!
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just like Jackson with The Hobbit and this non-existent "bridge" material. Make one movie for Potter. God knows they could use some editing!
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Guess you'll have to shell out 60 bucks for the Deathly Hallows on Blu-Ray now. Then again, you'll never catch me OWNING a Harry Potter movie, only seeing them in theatres...FOR FREE!! (Never underestimate the perks of a theatre manager)
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Harry, No Golden Globes talkback?
Hug it out, Bitch!!!
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Fans bitch about all the stuff that gets cut from the books. Any director would have to take a chainsaw to Deathly Hallows to even make it a 2 1/2 hr-film.
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I was extremely disappointed by the last book, which could've been re-titled "Harry and his Friends go Camping." If they didn't need two movies to adapt "Goblet of Fire" from text to screen, I see no reason to do this for "Deathly Hallows."
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the philosopher's stone
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Trust me, this is B.S. It will be one movie.
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avoid cutting any of the supporting characters from the movie whose job it is to Die For Harry.
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the last movie sucked didnt it? Just sloppy phonin' it in crap, yah? Am I the only one that thinks so? I think they're all sick of making HP movies. Also the books get worse as it goes along after 4 so I dont expect much from them. If they do do Deathly Hallows as two movies that would be great though. I would happily pay for it as a grand finale.
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I actually wouldnt mind him putting off AT THE MOUNTAINS OF MADNESS if he were going to be directing, "Deathly Hollows" in two parts.
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letting him direct potter will immediately make him an A lister!
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Droppin' the ball...
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Now make Alfonso Cuaron come back to direct you fucks.
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Given the length of the last two books and the details they need to this for Half-Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows. I have felt for a longtime that the the only way to do the stories justice is to make them more whole on the silver screen.
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It's padded. All the angst in the woods. Book should have been 1/3rd of the length. Enjoyed the series, but the conclusion was a bit of a slog. As was part 5.
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Someone asks the Potter kid about working Cuaron again. He said he'd love too, but not necessarily on a Potter film. I found that odd.
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whatever. bring it.
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She was right about Star Wars all those years ago, but this is just too much. I'm gonna have to take up knitting to get out of this one.
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About a magical little knobhead called Larry Snotter. He and his friend at Pigboils school for Dickheeds - Roy Measley go off on adventures together and play chase the snatch. I'll keep churning em out til i'm so fat and rich i can't get out the house and just wallow in my own literary glutony. then i'll cry and die because nothing else will come forth from my magic pen and i'll be forever known as the writer of those Snotter books! Hardly Tolkien is it!
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But people only showed up for the first half of that event.
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Then there's room for the Hogwarts side of the story we never got to read. Why the heck not?
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That woman needs an editor and clearly lost touch with some of her characters in that last outing.
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in her first gang-bang/cream pie scene..*sigh*.. will we ever get to see this tag line on a Harry Potter movie?
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There were other books in the series that were longer and more complicated, but they all had a natural beginning and ending - starting during the summer holiday, ending at exams. The last one can easily be split in two (the best point to split it would be when Ron comes back). And it is a cash cow, but let's be honest, potter fans would pay ten times the amount of one extra ticket to see another movie. They'll do it gleefully, and I don't see how anyone loses. If you think the movies and books suck don't watch or read them.
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Azkaban is stilly my favourite. For me it made the biggest stylisitc leap of the entire series, and as a result was the most refreshing. Nothing like those before, and copied by those since. I like the idea of two episodes for the final movie. The text and the fans deserve the extra detail. Just a little bit worried about who gets the directors chair on the final one. Has it been officially announced yet? It needs to be someone with experience in big budget FX movies, with big stylistic balls and a sense for truly epic cinema.
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That book is pretty much straight action, with a giant battle at the end that sort of needs to not be cut as much of it ties up a lot of ends with a lot of characters. I hope they do it.
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buckarez hit the nail on the head, i thought the last book was so clearly rowling phoning it in from her giant mansion in scotland and hoping everybody would finally leave her alone once she finished it all up with that tacky epilogue. camping, whining, and a bit of action. i barely remember what the hell happened, actually. bring cuaron back and he will make it tight, dark, beautiful, and under 2 hours long, and that's all anybody should ask for.
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His movies are by far the weakest of the series. Not to mention the fact that sure, he is a great family movie director, but he really isn't all that talented with larger movies. And this movie is going to be fuck-all-large. Get Del Toro or Cauron. Keep Columbus out of this.
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In fact, I think it's much further down the line behind PHOENIX, GOBLET, and even CHAMBER OF SECRETS... I just don't think Cuaron did as good a job as he could of. But maybe that's just me...
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for final film(s). Even though I am not that crazy about PAN'S LABYRINTH.
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Jan 13, 2008 9:11:39 PM CST
Anyone With a Brain knows DH could easily be done in one Movie.
by ejkousc
Its called editing people. Yeah DH was a great book and all but how many chapters do we need of Harry sitting around in a tent twiddling his thumbs not knowing what to do while Ron and Hermione sip tea. Just because it was a long book doesn't mean that everything in the book is all that important. Seriously. I read the book and there are lots of ways to skim the fat. I think it will and should be the LONGEST film but it is totally unneccesarry to make it into two films. What then? Each film then winds up being a relatively short film and everyone complains that each half isn't epic enough. Or you make two 3 hour movies? Sorry but DH is not a 6 hour movie. The series is already starting to suffer a little from franchise fatigue, last thing they need is to draw it out any longer. Wrap it up. And stop twiddling your thumbs Harry.
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And as you stated, as long as it's like the Matrix. Back to back. I (grown man) really liked the books and movies. Especially the way they progressed from innocence to darkness. I still have absolutely no idea why the author threw in the Gay angle to Dumbledork. I was like wha? Did she throw it in there to make a gay friend of hers happy? I just don't get it. Why is the announcement of someones sexual preference needed in a series meant for children to read?
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And Cuaron and Azkaban were so overrated. No actual story. No actual threat if you think about it.
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One of them HAS to fucking do this
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Why the hell would they need to split this one? Damn Warner Brothers for milking this old cow dry.
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i like the idea of two movies and your idea of releasing them within a few months.
my favorite movie, so far is the most recent. i think it is the only one that has captured the atmosphere and feel of the books. not all directors want to replicate books, and from a creative perspective, I understand, but when you have a built in audience like the potter books bring, it seems a good idea to try to satisfy the fans at least a little. -
I haven't read that one (Though I am saddened to hear one of the Weasley twins dies. :( ), but I'm glad they're not going all "Hamlet" or "Schindler's List" on us with it.
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So far anyway. It had great directing, great editing, wonderful soundtrack, but most importantly. A fascinating story. That kept me riveted to my seat and almost moved me to tears. I never read a single Potter book. So I had no idea what was gonna happen. The whole time travel twist had me engaged. Every turn i was like, oh wow!, no way! oh that was cool how they did that! Oh that's why that happened? Just a delightful movie from beginning to end.
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i dont get this potter love. the movies suck. I'll assume the books are better.
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You don't need 4 hours plus to do the final film. No split! Splits are lame.
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(always reliable, I know)... THE BEARD himself is a possibility. Quote: "Warner Brothers is thinking Oscars with this one...people are considering all possibilities." I dunno, Spielberg might hedge too close to Columbus for my tastes.
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When will people realize that Deathly Hallows simply does not have enough of a plot to satisfy two films? Fans make it out to be some fantastic novel that ties up every loose end and ties back into all the other six books. No...what does tie back is contrived, and things we thought we knew are suddenly changed by Rowling in order to fit her plot. Two-third of the book is just the trio talking about what they're going to do before they actually do it, bickering about having no plan, and sitting in the woods. What the sixth book sets up is not what takes up the majority of this book. Harry saves the day by a cheap device (an all-powerful wand) and his choice only keeps him alive (it doesn't defeat Voldemort).
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I am more interested in how in the hell Peter Jackson is going to expand THE HOBBIT into 2 movies... talk about bloat...
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I love all the "Cash Cow" talk! I love to hear people bitch about an obvious ploy to get more money (and to serve a long story that no fan who has already shelled lots of dough so far wants to see cut) when the solution is simple: Don't give them any of your money. There, problem solved. If you hate Harry Potter so much it makes me wonder why you even read this article in the first place, let alone felt the need to post a talkback about it.
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I got so much shit as a kid because I looked like that fucker. CORRECTION. He looked like me. And I always make sure to spit on adults when I see them reading a children's book.
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I've never read any of the books but love the movies, so the more movies the better.
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Starting with Azkaban, all the films felt like significant ideas/moments/people and things were dropped for time requirements. Things happened and only by reading the book, did you know why they happened. Give the final film a proper send off.
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Jan 13, 2008 9:43:06 PM CST
I'VE GOT AN IDEA ... LET ALFONSO CUARON DIRECT THE LAST ONES
by bringingsexyback
Or Mike Newell. They did a great job. I even think Chris Columbus should be given a directorship. David Yates so far has been the only weak link.
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Jan 13, 2008 9:43:16 PM CST
Harry Potter and the Lets Start This Rumor with Each Movie!
by shadowhawk
Obviously a slow news week... er weekend. This rumor has started with each Harry Potter movie since Goblet of Fire. Personally, I can't wait for the 8th book to come out! Or was that an internet rumor too?
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that DH was an underwhelming end to the series. Harry and the gang deserved better.
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I don't really see where you're coming from with your criticism of Deathly Hallows. I am re-reading it and find it to be very satisfying.[SPOILER]I am not sure if we read the same book, but the way I recall Harry saving the day was by sacrificing himself thus casting the same sort of spell on everyone Voldemort would try to harm as his mother did for him.And, because I obviously missed them, where were the continuity changes that you spoke of? What about the Potterverse did J.K. change to fit her plot?
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They tried to do this on the fourth movie until Alfonso Cuaron, I believe, convinced them it was a horrible idea. You can't just construct a climax out of the middle of the book; the arc will be all wrong. Plus, 7 books and 8 movies just feels wrong - and everyone will take it as a transparent attempt to make more money. Plus it will just make all the principal actors a year older. Man there are so many reasons this is a terrible idea.
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and the last one was the best film so far. Azkaban is a close second.
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Jan 13, 2008 9:46:43 PM CST
EVILGEEK1 - YOU SHOULD HAVE CAPITALIZED ON THE POTTER RESEMBLANC
by bringingsexyback
How many girls had crushes on Harry? You could've let them play with your wand.
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They have not gotten darker. THey have gotten more mature. That's what's happen. However, loving Azkaban is about as lame as loving Empire. LUNA LOVEGOOD bitches. Luna freakin Lovegood.
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Cuz she was kinda blah in the movie.
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Put all the deleated scenes back into the movie on the DVD?
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a space cadet. I'm not cool w/2. THE BOOK ISN'T DENSE!!! The 4th book could have been a 2xer, but since they screwed up on that, I don't see another being a 2xer.
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i was quick to grow my hair out because i looked like that equus fucker as well.
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the cast is just so bland in all of them. The LOTR cast and movies are much more awe inspiring.
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Instead we get these truncated messes. And Azkaban was the most truncated of them all. Instead of having two movies, why don't they use Order o/t Phoenix as a template and make the entire movie one big montage scene? That way it'll be only 45 minutes long and they can pack the theaters all day making Warner Brothers even more money! Seriously though, they should hire Rowling's dream director Terry Gilliam for the final one, even if he has gone off of his nut.
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but I know I'm weird that way. So if it means they won't remove most of it, like they did with OoTP, then it's fine by me.
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were fucking great. All the nay-sayers that hated the sequels can suck penis(unless they prefer to suck penis, then they can suck vagina, instead).
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People say Azkaban is the best because it is the best directed. However, Harry Potter purists prefer the more faithful first film. The beginning of Philosopher’s Stone is perfect, and Richard Harris IS the one and only true Dumbledore performance. Never been a fan of Michael Gambon’s at all.
However, I think Cuaron did a great job with Azkaban, and would welcome his return. The time traveling climax in that film was perfectly set up and beautifully crafted, one of the high points in the series. That scene beats the hell out of the poorly conceived, tension-less, special effects driven action scenes that are in GoF and OoTP. Never once did I feel the characters were in any real danger. I'm sure since we are getting the same director for HBP as OoTP, than they will surely blow that book's brilliant climax as well.
I would like to see them pull a Peter Jackson for Deathly Hallows and make that last stand off at Hogwarts chapter in the book into an epic battle in the scale of the end battle in Return of King. Now that would in awesome!
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that captured the magic of the books. It was almost scene for scene -- eye opening. GOF really disappointed me, and it's still my favorite of the books. Yer right, GOF should have been the most dangerous of all the movies, but then it just petered out a the end. Maybe because they raped the story so thin that the last challenge was "don't get bushwhacked".
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i cant freaking stand this franchise
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la dee da we ride cute brooms and fight with wands. It's so kickass. Oh, yeah, and the bad guys are called Slytherin and they are never, ever decent or redeemable at all, or pretend to be, even their kids. it's so subtle and nuanced. For my money, That punk witch with the purple hair in #5 is the best part of the movies so far. What a dirty hot creature she is.Potter should have gotten with her and had done with it. She has poor chick written all over her, and everyone knows poor girls give the best head.
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Mad eye calls harry's uncle padfoot. Put 2 and 2 together and you have the origin of the map.
Now all I think we need to clean up is how dumbledore knew about the fake mad eye in goblet. They dropped the ball there.
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but really disliked the tacked on epilogue. Two DH movies work for me if they can skip that part.Á
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all 3 have already signed contracts and will all make huge money. I think I saw that daniel radcliffe i think would be getting 25 million and rupert and emma 10 million. Also a rumored director is Steven Spielberg
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I just checked wikipedia and it turns out the purple haired witch is married. Yes, I dislike the series and I still looked that up. What's wrong with me.
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Ending wasn't bad, but a lot of the other stuff was just same-old same-old. But fine, they want to make two of them, that's two more tedious, overblown Potter movies I can skip.
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The Lord of the Rings films are ten times better than the Harry Potter films. They are even arguably better than the Star Wars films.
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Jan 13, 2008 11:17:14 PM CST
Deathly Hallows was like a condensed LOTR. so 2 movies is fine
by george newman
so the idea of two movies is fine.
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I've diligently watched all the Harry Potter movies for the sake of keeping up with all things fantasy, but I just can't help but wince a lot. It's a nice setting, a few nice ideas, but to me the stories have never really risen above the B-fantasy threshold. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I think that if it wasn't for the "brand name", they'd just quietly vanish into the bargain bin. If they do it in two movies, I hope they can find two distinct stories to tell - I think I'm going to swear off going to see any more movies that end with what amounts to a "to be continued".
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Not to be spoiler-y about it, but the real key is what belongs to who in the end. Voldemort's own actions are his undoing. I felt there was a certain pleasing symmetry to things in that.
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Since the books have been around since the fifties and are classics in literature. They got even more popular when the movies came out. The films, won a ton of awards and grossed billions of dollars. People still dress up like Lord of the Rings. Go to conventions. That's never going to stop. Harry Potter is definently a phenomenon, I'm sure it will be revered, but Lord of the Rings it is not.
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I do NOT know where they could logically divide this thing. Most of the middle of the book is the Potter kids wandering around the outskirts not knowing what the hell to do. Seems like a bad place to end one movie and start a second.
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And in the final battle in Hogwarts, Harry offs Voldey with the "exploding heart technique".
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Matthew Vaughn should direct DH. Fuck Spielberg. I would'nt mind if Cuaron came back though.
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and a shit epilogue at that.
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therefore, if you only have watched the movies, you lost.
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you know it's true
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Jan 14, 2008 2:35:53 AM CST
Yep, JK Rowling will inevitable do a book about Harry's parents
by polyh3dron
this.
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...Layer Cake was great fun. Unfortunately, he took a massive budget fantasy flick and turned it into an ugly, boring shitfest. So I'd say he was out for Potter. I always thought Marc Caro and Jeunet shoulda reteamed for at least one. Even if the books are ass hat.
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There is no reason to make Deathly Hallows into 2 movies....at all. Where the hell would they split it up?? DH is not even the longest book...GoF and OotP were much longer and could have logically been split up. Deathly Hallows can easily be a 3 hour movie...if they slpit it up than I just don't think I will be bothered to see it. DH was limited on plot and dragged in the middle with constant whining and stupidity, it only gets good towards the end but the final battle with Voldemort is such a letdown. They would have to expand that fight greatly. The best movie so far has been Prisoner of Azkaban so it would be great ro see Cuaron back.
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That's all that needs to be said. I was hoping for this news and I pray that it happens.
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Might not be for another 20-30 years. But it will happen. They made the current films way too early, before the whole scope of the story was fully in focus. That's why a lot of seemingly-innocuous stuff - that later turned out to be MAJORLY important - got cut out of most of the current movies along the way. They were even going to exclude Kreacher from the OOTP movie until Rowling herself intervened. Not knocking the existing movies at all: I like them a lot, they're beautiful pieces of work. But so far as being a faithful adaptation of Rowling's story, watching them has been like a study in chaos theory: tiny differences become magnified over the long run until they threaten to wreck the whole thing.
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I'm a massive Potter fan, but this is plain ridiculous. There's barely enough material in the last two books to make a movie, so this is pure insanity.
Mind you, if they can make a decent movie out of Half Blood Prince then they can do pretty much anything...
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Jan 14, 2008 3:32:35 AM CST
Warner should've released multiple parts for all of them
by gimpinmypants
The adaptation of Order of the Phoenix was a bastardization of the book. That what would have happened to Lord of the Rings if it had been condensed to one film. But unlike Lord of the Rings the Potter films have awful lead actors and Gambon's Dumbledore is the coldest motherfucker in the films. In the books he's the calm in the middle of the storm but in the movies he has the ability to be just another cow caught in a tornado.
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Yes, Deathly Hallows is long and complex but no more so than any of the books since Goblet of Fire. In fact, it's less complex overall than the Half Blood Prince (the only book i think would deserve the two-Act treatment).
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Star Wars, Superman, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Aliens and Die Hard to Harry Potter, Spiderman, Narnia and Pirates of the Caribbean. Hollywood studios - please stop making bland shit.
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Great idea both $'ally and storytelling-wise, to make 2 films. So they don't need to condense and cut as much-as long as they get a gifted storytelling director. Cuaron would certainly be my choice. And it would be supercool if they'd release them together and give fans a chance to see them both in one go.
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Dude, wake up, they've been making bland shit. The second two Superman movies, Die Hard 2 and 3, Return of the jedi, and Alien 3 and 4 all sucked ass.
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Everyone thinks Jethro Tull's just a guy in the band!
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Jan 14, 2008 4:09:54 AM CST
Characters are taking away from believeability of the movies
by mrdlcastle
I just watched Order Of the Phoenix, and I was distracted at how old the characters look. They should be 15, and look more like 20. I know that these franchises are mostly about money, but it would have been better for them to wait till the series was closer to being done so they can do it more in a row.
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Even when reading the book, I was thinking to myself there was no way this thing would fit into one movie. Perhaps with a split around the Malfoy Manor part. Hallows is like The Hobbit, in that there is just a TON of action all through it, almost every chapter has action. Also, the end section is 'odd' enough that it needs a proper pace to be effective (the train station, etc.), and that wouldn't happen in a 4-hour movie. The first Hallows film could be about the action, and the second more about the deep themes that become prevalent (life and death and their meaning, and how one has to accept death will happen to live properly, etc.). Hobbit, now that I've just reread it, also makes sense as two films: just split it when they reach Mirkwood and Gandalf leaves the party.
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once they've seen Karl Hungus?
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Radcliffe is only 18. Compared to some teen movies made in the 90's with late twenty-early thirty something people playing teens, this is nothing.
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Cuaron should return to direct the final installments. OotP was shit. In fact everything before and after Azkaban was shit. Well, maybe Goblet was good, but it's nowhere near as great as that of Cuaron's. He's evidently the best one for the job, and if someone's gonna direct Deathly Hallows, it should be Cuaron.
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I understand Jackson Hackson wants to include material not originally in The Hobbit but taken from other Tolkien writings. But i like your idea, if i understand correctly, of sticking completely to the book and include every little detail in the filmed version, and making it two parts unadulterated and complete Hobbit. Then they could later make another film of all the other writings if needed. Just hope they get a more gifted director than Jackson and that he sticks to producing this.
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Damn fine choice!
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If Potter stops having movies, what will all the 13-year-old girls masturbate to now?
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And the Harry Potter movies are crap.
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The movie comes out in 5 months and still no trailer???
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That way they can make Harry Potter movies for the next 800+ years. Peter Jackson would be perfect for this cynical money grab er, I mean, "work of art."
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His idea of an Indiana Jones adventure: http://www.monkeyheaven.com/related_films_indyscript.html
Here is just one sentence from this "script" of his that about sums it up: "The gorillas, still dressed as NAZIS, continue to DRIVE THE TANK"
Or, if you scream in pain after the initial "Scooby Jones and the Ghastly Ghost of the Swamp Manor" pages, here's a full summary of why Columbus is a complete cretin: http://www.houseofhobbits.com/blog/?p=7
Then again, that would make him about right for something as wretched as Potter. (Hey, why not post "POTTER!" warnings in the news subject next time... I had no idea what the hell 'Deathly Hallows' was, thought it was something good, and got Potter news instead... ugh) -
He Sucked as a director...his vision was shit and he ruined one of the best books in the series by making it a sloppy cut up incoherent piece of crap. Just my opinion, but the harry potter world should not be fucked with because a director has a
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I just can't see a logical way to split DH into two. How could it stop at Malfoy's Manor without completely destroying the pace?? This will be Matrix all over again. Revolutions and Reloaded would have made ONE great film but split up they make one decent movie and one bad movie.
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Or however the fuck it's spelled. I only read the first four books, but the third one was definitely the best of them. And the film just shit all over it. I haven't watched a Potter movie or looked at one of the books since. Way to go, Alfonso.
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that is the stupidest thing I have ever seen written. PoA is agruably the only HP movie that actually feels like a movie and not a hacked up rush job. The series needs a director with a vision and not somebody who just copys-cuts-and pace the whole book.
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The battle of Hogwarts is given the full epic Minas Tirith style treatment I'll be happy. And all the deaths NEED to be shown. It better not end up a kiddie friendly cop out. I loved the wizard dueling at the end of pheonix between the adults. It really showed us how badass fully trained wizards are compared to the teenagers. We want a lot more of that please.
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but my post is still valid
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Fuck this shit. Cuarons' POA is the best movie and it's great. Columbus is the worst.
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Cynical and nothing to do with story-telling.
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The guy is a genius and Pan's a masterpiece, but Deathly Hallows has CUARON written all over it. Two movies, three movies, a sitcom, whatever, but Cuaron HAS TO DO IT. And I agree with whoever said that Harry's rescue from the well is the perfect point to make the split.
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Didn't they say the same thing about Order of the Phoenix? They'll wind up just editing the story down to a manageable size, just like any normal book adaptation.
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into bed with Cho and Ginny ... that would get everyone to come back for Part 2.
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All WB have to do is hire a nice safe pair of hands to direct DH and then wait for the money to flood in. Hiring yet another arty director will only result in another 2nd week massive drop in box office. Commonsense is needed not a director with an ego.
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with the inaugural movies. At least I think so because I never read the books. If I had, I might think differently but as an HP movie-only fan, I think they were wonderful.
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The Search for More Money
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The Search for Spaceballs 2
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Young Frankenstein in Space
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Mind you, I think there are some kick-ass parts of the Silmarillion that deserve to be made into a movie.
Jackson has proven he can do the locations and visual effects...
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Indeed. But where is today's equivalent of Star Wars, Raiders etc. Those are movies for the ages. Harry Potter and Pirates can be watched once, maybe twice and that's it. The scripting and direction is just poor.
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is some kind of masterpiece compared to Harry Potter. The second the Harry Potter films come up with anything as good as the end space battle in Jedi give me a call.
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is suppose to be entertaining? I mean I've tried to read the books but even I felt like they were about 20 some years beneath me. I just can't get into it. Yet the people that love it are the same people who can't get into other fantasy things? That and all the movies sucked minus POA, the last two especially. Fucking throw enough money at Speilberg and get him to finish the series out.
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Get Michael Bay to do the last movie. Loads of handheld camera running through the corridors as the walls are smashed in, bodies fly everywhere, explosions, collapsing ceilings, massive monsters, slow-mo, spinning cameras, Mike Lowrey, broomstick chases... AWESOME!
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Once the group hit the woods it's all padding. The idea they need to split the book into two movies is laughable. Where's the climax to film 1 exactly??
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While I have always been a huge Spielberg fan, I also don’t think he should do this. Nor do I think he will do this. He already has a very full schedule for the next few years anyway (Lincoln, Trial of the Chicago Seven). If he was going to do HP, he would have jumped on it in the beginning.
However, I’m surprised that a lot of the HP fans writing in this thread don’t want to see a 2 part finale to the series. It would give the whole series the proper ending that it deserves. All the details that people complained were left out of EVERY HP film since the beginning could be left in. With a 5hr total running time, it will be epic.
Remember – when it’s over – ITS OVER! There will be no more HP to go through. It will be 20 years or so before the next incarnation of Harry Potter incarnation is brought to our screens, so if they want to give us more, I’m totally for that.
The chances are good that this would be a Summer 2010 release for a first half, and a Christmas 2010 release for the second half. Yeah, it might mean more money for WB and everone involved, but it also means we get what we’ve been asking for all along – a truly faithful adaptation of a Harry Potter book.
I say bring back Cauron and let him go crazy.
And for everyone writing about how they "hate" Harry Potter - you don't have to read them, or watch them. If you didn't have this to complain about, you'd find something else. Not every series is for everyone, but why put so much energy into hating something? Does that make you cool or something? Let the name calling begin... -
Hollywood producers make films for the love of their 'art'? Who cares if "it's about greed'?" What are you, a communist?
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My ex-girlfriend read them all and used to drag me to see the movies with her. Parts 1 and 2 bored me to death, but Part 3 was really fucking well done. I was into the story, the time travel shit was cool, and I liked the films climax. Part 4 was decent, and I liked how someone actually died and it was serious.And by the time Part 5 rolled around, I didn't see it because we broke up. So I don't think I will be seeing the rest of the series, but I don't understand the need for 3 hour movies or two part movies with the same story. It's lamePirates: At Worlds End was boring, stupid, and unnecessary and I never finished the whole movie because I fell asleep and walked out during the part a boat was flipping over. So I vote no to movies filmed in 2 parts. Make one fucking concise, edited film.And LOTR will not replace Star Wars. I am a fan of neither, but I think Star Wars will always be the HBIC of Fantasy/Sci Fi Films. There will never be nothing like the original trilogy. And the replay value for the original films is high. LOTR is good to watch once in the theater. Anything after that you either have the patience of a fucking saint, have a lot of time on your hands, or are a huge fucking dork. Those movies are way to fucking long.
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Financially, in terms of telling the story and tying up loose ends, etc. Might make sense for the Half-Blood prince, too. It's the end of the series, there's lots of story in the books that doesn't end up on the screen, and lots of threads touched on in earlier movies that never quite made it back into the later movies . . . I'm cool with it.
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Like having a job is all about greed, or writing a book is all about greed, or trying to win when playing a board game or a video game is all about greed. Greed, I tell ya!
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Jan 14, 2008 9:33:02 AM CST
Bollocks is it anything to do with 'telling the story' properly.
by lemming
Warner have just realised their cash cow is coming to an end and will extend it any way they can.
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Cuz I'm gonna get a few drops from this cash cow. Thank you Ms. Rowling!
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For such an important character to be so sidelined makes no sense.
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If I had enough to buy and break up an airline I'd do it in a second. Fuck alla yalls. Ima gettin mines.
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Now that would be going too far.
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FaaaAAAaaaaBULOUS! FOUR POINTS TO GRIFFENDORE!!*GIGGLE TEE HEE*
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Just like Stephen King's 1,000-page bricks, J.K. Rowling's HP novels (especially the last four) need to have 25-30% cut out of them. That's why ORDER OF THE PHOENIX was such a good film, because instead of making an almost three-hour flick, they cut out Rowling's padding and made a tight, entertaining movie.
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...progressively worse since the 3rd one. So by the time DH 1 and 2 come out...they should be pretty much unwatchable, no matter who directs them.
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Every one of these films is the same. Plot roughly represents 1 year at school, boring growing up subtext using wooden minor characters, Harry learns a new skill, toss in a bit of Quidditch, Harry faces off end of level monster, film ends, kids wait for new film, adults wonder why they just wasted 30 quid at the cinema, producers jump for joy at license to print money for some old tat.
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Why is this considered the best of the films? It looked great, but it deviated furthest afield of the source material by a long shot.
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Hey, this far down the comments list, you do what you can to get attention. :)
Seriously, though, I think this is a great idea. The one thing that's underwhelmed me about all the films after the first one is how they've felt kind of rushed. The last two, especially, as much as they nailed it in most ways, felt like a breathless run through the plot points.
There are so many good moments in the last book that if two films will allow those moments to be given proper space and breathe a bit, then I'll be happy.
And, coming so long after the last book was released, it will give a nice ROTK "event" feeling to things.
And really, what's to complain about? It's an extra Harry Potter movie, for chrissakes! With all the garbage that Hollywood continues to dump on us, another good film, especially a fantasy, is a good thing, period.
Director: splitting duties between Cuaron and Del Toro would be great, as they're friends to boot. The last book is a mix of intense action and quietly surreal, haunting moments, and I bet those guys could really pull it off. -
I loved the end of Deathly hallows where HP finally gets laid.
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fuck them
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No, that was a keyboard error, not a swipe at Cuaron. :) In some ways, Azkaban was the most aggravating of all the films for me, because it left out some of the most special aspects of the book (the patronus backstory!). But at the same time, he created this wonderful, rich atmosphere and look that gave the whole thing a misty storybook quality. And yet somehow, he managed to make the characters all feel more real and alive without violating that storybook feel--an amazing, subtle balance. As compelling as the vivid/gritty/modern-realism vibe has been in the last two films, Cuaron seems to have stylistically captured what made the books so cherished in the first place. On that criteria, I'd rank his and the first film highest.
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That is the real question!
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They've signed Fox, Disney, and now Warners, and will be announcing it tomorrow, perhaps an article then? How we watch is almost as relevant of what we watch no?
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Yates did a great job on Order of the Phoenix, but seeing as they are concentrating on the comic aspects of Half Blood Prince, I do think that it would have been great to go back to Mike Newell, who nailed lots of humour in Goblet (certainly the Yule Ball and buildup got big laughs in the London cinema where I saw it). Then have Cuaron for Deathly Hallows. Oh, by the way, two films is a bad idea. One film, lasting up to 3 hours, is a quite long enough. If David Lean can get Great Expectations down to under 2 hours, I'm sure Warners can get Deathly Hallows down to under 3.
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Matthew for the next and Kenneth the last two.
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way overrated, Goblet was way better
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Does that mean it is a consideration or hasn’t crossed the table yet, who knows, but they did not deny the possibility. They also said Steve Kloves would write it when the strike ends. No word on Directors.
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Anyone who thinks otherwise is kidding themselves. The first two movies did a great job of setting up the world of HP, but are almost painfully unwatchable in repeat viewings. Cauron took the most concise and well written book of the series and made it into a great movie. I don't think anyone could have pulled off the time travel climax as well as he did. Give him a shot with DH and we will get a great ending to the movie series, which needs to be thought of as entirely different than the books.
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quote.
"Matthew for the next and Kenneth the last two."
Yates is currenly directing HBP and the is just Deathly Hallows after that.
Perhaps like me you'd like to see them redo GOF and see if they git it right. The cemetery scene was angel pussy but I had a lot of issues with the rest of the film. Maybe that one should have been made much longer or split in two. -
however, Matthew Vaughn would be awesome also, I loved Stardust.
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doesn't mean that the story needs wrapping up, but you need to feel that you have at least gone on some kind of journey. that's why the endings of Two Towers and Order of Phoenix weren't too great. You just felt that things weren't that different from the status at the end of the previous films (Fellowship; Goblet).
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Okay, the last book was good in BOOK form. However, I really do not want to see 2 hours of Harry, Ron, and Hermione arguing and wandering around in the forest which pretty much is a third of the book.
And talk about squeezing every last dollar they can. C'mon, 7 books, 7 movies. The inconsistancy would kill me! -
That's a nice "Empire"-style cliffhanger if you have it end where Harry, Ron and Hermione captured and brought to Malfoy Manor.
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The one that says "Bad Mother Fucker" on it.
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Order of the Phoenix is in a few ways the worst movie of the series (which is sad because it's a great book, albeit too long for ADHD people to read) this is because the adaptation sucked. Surely it was partly down to the new screenwriter Michael Goldenberg (or whatever his name is) who replaced Steve Kloves to give Kloves a break for one film. They tried to include too much from the book. We're talking a 900 page book crammed into 2 hours (the shortest Potter flick...makes a whole lotta sense for the LONGEST book, don't it...??). Order of the Phoenix could have been an epic masterpiece in the right hands. Hopefully Deathly Hallows will at last be the movie the series has deserved all along. Prisoner of Azkaban came closest. It's not a coincidence it was the fucking genius Alfonso Cuaron in the chair for that one. He set out to make a MOVIE, not just another episode in a franchise, which is what Order felt like. John Williams's score (absent from the last 2 flicks) really helps too. GET HIM BACK. GET CUARON BACK OR LET DEL TORO DIRECT, HE'S EXPRESSED INTEREST. DO TWO 2-HOUR FLICKS.
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adapting from one medium to another means making choices. So make some choices, silly queers.
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The screenwriters/producers have cut so much of the backstories and so much of the peripheral stories out in the last three films that they need not make two movies. Essentially the last film will be the trio hunting for horcruxes and the smackdown at the end. Remember the HBP and the DH will not be adaptations of JK's books per se, but sequels to the OOTP movie. The Daily Mail is not renowned for accuracy either, especially when it comes to entertainment news. If there is a semblance of truth in the rumour, it is because Warner Bros. are jumping on The Hobbit annoucement to get some word of mouth PR going on Harry Potter- the next film is out in 11 months and with the books finished and even a lot of non readers knowing how it ends they want the cash cow to milk, milk, milk. This is the biggest film franchaise ever, but Warner Bros still want HBP and DH to make between $750-$800 million worldwide each to really stick two fingers up at other sci-fi/fantasy franchises out there. Especially since The Golden Compass, The Dark is Rising, Beowoulf and Eragorn have all been DOA at the box office and with critics. If am wrong you can HEX me, either way let us hope the next two films will be entertaining. The HP movie series has not been perfect, but all of the films have been well crafted popcorn fantasy movies with some good moments of action, wonder, drama, humour etc.
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I thought Goblet of Fire was a WAAAAY worse adaptation than Order of the Phoenix. The Goblet of Fire book blew me away when I first read it but the movie paled in comparison. It was still entertaining as just a movie and so was the movie version of Order of the Phoenix though even though they left stuff out. Hopefully now with two movies they can include everything and fans will stop moaning about it.
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You know all of you tb geeks want two movies and so they will deliver them as such. Meanwhile, I'm hoping we can get back on the all-caps, pseduo-falsified subject line spoiler train. "You... choo-choo... choooose me?" --RW
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Methinks you have seriously underestimed the Potter faithful. For unto them hath befallen a serious geek-bourne disease and with it (sadly) a penchant for dropping oodles of cash on the quintuplet-dip that's sure to rear its ugly head in DVD, Blu-ray, HD-DVD, and Ultra-High-Not-Even-Developed-Technology formats. And I am them.
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I think the kids in this movie are too old for him, lol.
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of a new TV series for the fall of 2010. The show will be called Hogwarts and each season will be 1 year at school. All the main characters were introduced in the epilogue of DH. You've got some just starting school, and some already there. Harry, Ron, Hermione can do cameos for sweeps. You heard it here first (unless I mentioned it somewhere else after having read the book last Summer, then you heard it there first and this is just a reminder).
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I mean come on!! Cuaron should shoot both Deathly Hallows using one continuous shot! Hell yeah!!
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Come the hell on. We've heard this since before the third movie went into production. It isn't happening. Stop running these stories.
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Storybook atmosphere and rich characterization brought to another level compared to the other movies.Vaughn did something similar with Stardust.
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Jan 14, 2008 2:39:11 PM CST
so i assume that the climax of the first
by lloyd bonafide the korean war veteran
would be the break-in and escape from gringotts? this could work.
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Can be made into one film (and be one of the greatest films of all time), then skip the masturbatory bullshit and make this one film. We don't need anything more than that and the material hardly calls for it.
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you'll just stare at a black screen for a few hours.
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Isn't he supposed to direct the final film?
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First off, I dont get all the love for PoA. I like me some Cuaron but the 3rd entry is over fucking rated already. I dont know but it didnt do it for me. Loved the book, but I know a lot of die hard HP fans who didnt care for it either, and since the mess that was Goblet I've really lost interest in the HP movies. They just get worse. Hope the next outings right the ship but I doubt it. It doesnt matter anyhow, even if theyre total shit people will still turn out to see it just b/c its HP. However, I honestly believe the answer is Del Toro. He'd knock Potter out of the park.
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are usually pretty broadminded anyway. though not necessarily indifferent or uncouth.
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Its the only way to do the saga of Harry Potter justice. Same thing with the Hobbit. I can't believe they're only making TWO movies of the Hobbit! There should be at the very least 639, 987, 232 movies made of the Hobbit. Furthermore, each of those movies should be at least 6 or 7 thousand hours long. Anything less is a travesty.
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because good ole`JRR could give JK some oxford dick.
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You know if Cuaron or Newell never directed 3 and 4, it would never have occured to any of you to clamor for Cuaron (or Newell) to direct a Potter movie.
That said, I think Richard Curtis (Love Actually) would be a good choice. A little surprising on the surface but not really. He knows how to handle a lot of stories, is good with character, knows how to tell big supercharged narratives and I think he'd do a good job with it. And not that it means much but he did conduct the interviews on the POA dvd with the cast so he has some association with the series already. and he has worked already with much of the cast. -
Jan 14, 2008 4:14:59 PM CST
Forgotten things throughout the series don't matter in the end..
by starlesswinter
Perhaps the sight of the locket at Grimmauld Place and the Lily/Snape encounter are the only truly important things that needed foreshadowing so far. Without them, it would seemed contrived. But everything else doesn't matter anyway, because they already seem contrived. Rowling likes to leave "relevant" information about her world until the last book...Oh, there are no such things as REAL invisibility cloaks? ok..., If the children's fairy tales are so famous, why haven't we heard of them?...Harry's read Quidditch Through the Ages many times and he can't remember that a snitch has a flesh memory?...if the Elder Wand is so easily traced throughout history, then why has no one ever mentioned it or why hasn't Harry heard Professor Binns talk about it? So much of DH is last-minute stuff; if not, Rowling is a bad plotter. She completely passes by more pleasing connections among elements of her book, and she made horrendous mountains out of molehills for countless plotlines. She is more than often marvelous at casting stones on the ground, but in the end of the series she fails in the gathering.
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Since they've already ensured that certian parts of the book will be cut by leaving some characters out of the films this one should be easy to condense down to 2 1/2 hours. Besides if they do it as 2 movies the first one would be a two hour camping trip with very little happening.
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It could document his flamboyantly colorful and extremely queeny adventures flitting and floating through the woods, singing songs, and playing "hide the ring" with various hobbits at the local Hobbiton bathhouse.
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Heres the trajectory: She's gonna write a new book and its going to bomb. Her publisher will then put the pressure on to write more Potter books. The fans will be begging for more Potter books. Rowling will need to continue to facilitate her now extravagant lifestyle (aka make more money), and will suddenly do a 180 and say that "oh, there are actually a whole bunch of new Potter stories I always wanted to tell and here they are!" Either that or she'll sell the rights to the publisher and they'll start cranking out Harry Potter EU type books similar to the Star Wars novels. I'd be willing to bet money on it.
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.... just have Harry & Dumbledore find Slythrin's Locket in the Cave. Look at it this way: suppose that Rowling had omitted the whole R.A.B. bit. The only difference would have been that the camping trip would have started a few chapters earlier, and the book would have been a bit shorter than it was. Harry was no closer to the next Horcrux nor to understanding the Hallows as a result of the whole "sneak in to the MInistry" bit, and he was going to have to leave Grimmauld Place to hunt for the Sword and the last two Horcruxes anyway.
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Everybody was so happy about the last book's arrival that they failed to notice what a mess it was. I think the way to salvage it into a good movie is to condense it, make it more concise, weedle out the chaff, like they did with the fifth movie. Making two separate movies would drag it out unnecessarily, methinks.
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Fuck yeah! Bring it on. 3 hrs each. Can't wait for the soundtrack
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Including the deleted scene in which Bombadil is revealed to be a misogynist and slaps the shit out of his elf wife in a dirty yellowed wifebeater.
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... and does a damn good job at them, I don't care what they do with it. The last two kind of sucked, so jazz up this last one with some good ol' mexican director sensibilities like they did with Azkaban.
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should direct. Zemeckis was great with Beowulf.
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some of you fuckers look like you've been waiting for this moment for ages. You're like goth kids waiting for a Cure reunion tour. Pathetic. What do you keep getting banned for Cowbell?
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The books got so routine ages ago.
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he'd need to be on Pan's Labyrinth / Devil's Backbone form. Because Blade 2, while having lovely fights and nasty gore, was not a great movie. Sorry.
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SHOULD DIRECT DEATHLY HALLOWS!!
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SHOULD DIRECT DEATHLY HALLOWS!!
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SHOULD DIRECT DEATHLY HALLOWS!!
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SHOULD DIRECT DEATHLY HALLOWS!!
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