Jan. 11, 2008, 8:43 a.m. CST
No thanks...I'm good.
Jan. 11, 2008, 8:44 a.m. CST
Jan. 11, 2008, 8:46 a.m. CST
Cobain was so successful, but o conflicted ... Never understood why he was so depressed.
Jan. 11, 2008, 9:20 a.m. CST
because I gotta be honest with ya, I was really diggin that cowbell man<p> explore the space.
Jan. 11, 2008, 9:23 a.m. CST
2007 was a great year for films about musicians. Great review. I think impressionistic is a wonderful way to describe the film (or at least how I imagine the film to be, since it hasn't played near me yet). Fourteen years, really? Nirvana's short lifespan in the mainstream existed for me mostly during middle school. I think my grade was the very last to be truly affected by Nirvana during their meteoric rise and fall.
Jan. 11, 2008, 9:24 a.m. CST
by Stuntcock Mike
Just walk away from it. A permanent solution to a temporary problem. Too bad.
I don't get this stomach pain. I have a Hiatal Hernia. A simple CT scan and endoscope found it. So when I hear "He was plagued by chronic stomach pain that doctors couldn't seem to diagnose, which led to his increased use of heroin to relief him from the pain"--------- I feel like screaming bullshit. People who USE- make excuses. Also where was the abdominal pain. It was probably IBS, which is bitch pain compared to a hiatal hernia. Try walking around all day with a abrassion/ trobbing/ deep knife stabbing/ tugging pain- in you left side just under your lower ribs, feeling like that area is gonna tear wide open. I would kill to have IBS. I had the symptoms of it for a few years, before the HH, but it cleared up.------------ Cobain can be summed up real simple like- Drugs played the biggest role. He didn't want to be a rock star or a father or a husband- he was tired of being a human being. He just wanted to do drugs, and it troubled him to no end, his life was turning to shit, and he said fuck it. I was into Nirvana before they exploded onto MTV- The Bleach album knocked me out. But I've moved on. I can't worship this guy anymore. It's like being grateful to a loss, and a Jesus he was not. He let his demons win. And he abandoned and hurt so many in the process. Again those close to him should have sought out A.A. or N.A. Cobain might still be here today and who knows what kind of him we might have- if he was off the damn drugs. Wish We knew the sober Cobain!
Jan. 11, 2008, 10:24 a.m. CST
by Baron Karza
Its not fucking noble, its for cunts. Its selfish and it makes you a liar forever. I see the circular logic and I know depression. I still revel in Nirvanas music (Out of the Blue bootleg is awesome) but I dont worship cowards.
Jan. 11, 2008, 10:58 a.m. CST
by Quin the Eskimo
entire catalog. Remember in 03 (?) when they released I Know Your Right (?). Kicked the ass of everything else on the radio. Pixies, then Nirvana did that quiet LOUD quiet sound so well. And nobody since Nirvana had even touched there quality. I hate everrthing.
Jan. 11, 2008, 11:05 a.m. CST
by Baron Karza
Throw around the word 'judgmental' while you pound your fist & judge is funny. Keep telling yourself that having a stand on things is being a sellout and crawl back in your hole. I will still see this doc, I still listen to Nirvana, and I still know suicide is for chicken shit cunts.
Jan. 11, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST
and do the world a big favor, you judgmental (yes I used it...OMG) prick. I am sure lots of people here have had some experience with someone they know/love/are related to and suicide and for you to make it worse with your 3rd grade level insults shows what a true mindless cunt of a douche you truly are. Go bang your head against something really hard or sharp for us.
Jan. 11, 2008, noon CST
It's a view into his view, and more than likely these interviews occurred while he was using. Why in god's name should anyone watch that.. Your not gonna gain any insight from a drunk on the bar stool, and Node alcoholism is a disease. Cobain could have grown up in a perfect household and still found himself in a bad place, ages later when he was in charge of his own life. Judgemental- no not really. I know the drunk and drug addict, cause I am a recovering one. Good, or Bad - Take responsibility for your own actions. No one pushes you do to anything. You always have choice. When your trapped in COP mode and all you want to do is get high and then you feel bad about it when your straight. You do shit like this. Love the music at one point idolized the man, now at 30 years of age. I just feel separated from the whole phenomenon that occurred. Intrigue enough to post I guess, not enough to watch it.
Jan. 11, 2008, 12:35 p.m. CST
solely because of how he or she ended a life, I have a riddle. What does Kurt Cobain have in common with Meriwether Lewis, Sylvia Plath, Walter Benjamin, Hunter S. Thompson, Vincent Van Gogh, Judy Garland, Virginia Woolf, Robert E. Howard, and Ernest Hemingway? Yes, that's right, they accomplished more in their shortened lives than you ever will. <p> Condemn suicide all you want. It's a tragedy, but it's not something you should sneer at. You are not in someone else's shoes, and I doubt many of you are psychiatrists who understand the symptoms of depression. Unlike a physical disease like cancer, it's easy to look down on those who suffer from clinical depression, but it's something you should resist. It's very real and more often than not results from a chemical imbalance in the brain, not something the victim has control over. <p> As far as Kurt Cobain goes, as time goes by I've learned to love the music much more than the man. He was flawed, but that does not mean he didn't have some interesting things to say. His playfulness with gender roles profoundly affected how I looked at the fluidity of gender in our society, rather than seeing it as naturally fixed for everyone. I attribute this to the man and the music.
Jan. 11, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST
you can make people sound really dumb that way. I want a movie where his closer friends and musicians are interviewed about how they thought he was murdered. Because that has interested me more.
Jan. 11, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST
by Baron Karza
You sound like a typical 15yr old retard liar. Shouldnt you respond with something like 'pwned' or something? My original opinion was about the act of suicide. Seems to have hit a sweet spot with you. If you believe in its noble legacy you should try it. I hear it will make you a legend.. or a douche bag.
Jan. 11, 2008, 5:11 p.m. CST
Teenage angst has paid off well, now I'm bored and old. Self-appointed judges judge, more than they have sold. Serve the servants
Jan. 11, 2008, 6:49 p.m. CST
...when it comes to Edinburgh. Had tix to see Nirvana in Glasgow Barrowlands in 1994 - nuf' said.
Jan. 11, 2008, 8:10 p.m. CST
In light of this news I saw a post last year talking about this very same project, where someone remarking that “"NIRVANA WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING THAT KRAP HAIR-METAL OFF OF RADIO AND MTV. THAT MADE WAY FOR OTHER MORE HEAVIER TYPES OF METAL." Though there may indeed be some truth to that, and maybe that is the complete and only perspective of some people who were kids during the grunge years (or were out of their heads at the time), its really only half the story. For those of us who opened our eyes and had to live through the fuckin hellish barren years of bumbed out, mopping around, pretentious grunge that tried to come off as inward-looking, serious-minded hard rock, it all ended with Cobain's clickkkkkk......bannnnnggg!!!! I’m not making fun of what he did. It was a harsh statement by Cobain and I remember how it shocked a lot of people. Suicide prevention hotlines were advertised as the news spread and the nation feared that fans would follow Cobain’s example. Shortly thereafter, real Metal, which had never truly died or gone away, once again was back stronger than ever, back with a vengeance. All those dark gray clouds of gloomy, unshowered, pretentious bullshit were finally gone and the Metal party was back on once again, after a hard lesson. Inward-looking, serious minded music is great, so long as one is ready to face what one might find when one looks deep enough. It’s best to build something first worth looking at, and then take a deep look. Yeah, things got pretty pathetic and frivolous with glam, but it was just as pathetic in the other extreme opposite direction with grunge. And ya know, its fun to listen to RATT or Pearl Jam once in a while, among others. Now, we have the nice, wide ranging selection of Metal and Rock that graces/curses this earth! Hopefully, the years of extreme pretentious bullshit on both sides are gone for good and we can enjoy the rich balance of music as it now is (especially online, there are so many choices), for many more years to come. Grunge was no better than Glam, both sucked for the most part. But of course, there are good bands in every genre. However, I can certainly think of people far, far more worthy of doing a biopic on than Cobain! Nostalgia can be fine, but lets not forget the lessons that were taught to us by the pretentious extremes of glam and grunge.
Jan. 11, 2008, 10:57 p.m. CST
chili peppers headlined. primus was supposed to open, with nirvana in the middle. primus dropped off the bill, so nirvana recommended another northwest band that hadn't hit big time yet to open- pearl jam. i spent the whole night slam dancing and moshing, it was FUCKING AWESOME!!!
Jan. 11, 2008, 11:31 p.m. CST
you should re-read your post. <p> i was more than fucking happy to see 80's hair bands fucking disappear from the radio dial<p> nirvana, soundgarden, pearl jam, alice in chains, stp- all solid rock bands. better than most of the current watered down, ball-less, pop-rock of the last 10 years <p> and just curious, but what post grunge bands are you refering to when you say "the Metal party was back on once again" and "Now, we have the nice, wide ranging selection of Metal and Rock" <p> as for pretentious... every great rock band is fucking pretentious- Zeppelin, the Stones, the Who, Van Halen (DLR days).... who wants to listen to unpretentious rock?
Jan. 12, 2008, 8:23 a.m. CST
"It's almost impossible for me to believe that we're coming up on the 14th anniversary of Cobain's suicide" <p> Probably because we're actually coming up on the 14th anniversary of his murder. Someone needs to make a movie about that. Well, I guess Gus Van Zandt did. But a better one.
Jan. 12, 2008, 10:06 a.m. CST
Flat out fuck him I hope he rotts in hell! Anyone who's such a pussy that they would blow their own heads off doesn't deserve our pitty. Especially some rich closet fag like Cobain! All you fags who listen to his music should follow him, and kill yourself's.
Jan. 12, 2008, 1 p.m. CST
don't you have puppies to rape somewhere?
Jan. 12, 2008, 8:14 p.m. CST
Asshole was a no-talent loser who was damn near unintelligible behind a microphone. I'd rather listen to this http://www.rathergood.com/moon_song/ nonstop for 24 straight hours than put up with one minute of that loser Cobain screaming and groaning into a microphone. Good riddance to the loser. Should have given a blow job to a shotgun much sooner than he did.
Jan. 13, 2008, 2:31 a.m. CST
by i kick tits
Jan. 13, 2008, 3:59 a.m. CST
by i kick tits
Jan. 13, 2008, 7:01 p.m. CST
He was...he committed suicide by his own hand. That is also murder. So get over it and accept it. He talked about suicide, he was severely depressed and was a freaking huge heroine addict and he hated what his own music became and what he tried to get away from, but his fans turned into exactly what he hated.
Jan. 15, 2008, 12:35 a.m. CST
time to come of age w/ the music that was just starting to hit the mainstrain. I admit I was more into Peal Jam but and didn't like Nirvana...... To be honest, looking back I wasn't prepared for what Cobain had put together on record! It blew my hair back, so to speak. It was like the guy was expressing things I could never come up w/ myself. Like he was my interputer(sp?). What he was singing about in Litham(sp?) I felt about my love life w/ my girl at or around 20 to 26 yrs old. Hell, maybe much longer. Point is, imo he's the closest thing we've had to John Lennon sinse Lennon.... I know that's a bold statment but I truly feel that way. That type of dude doesn't come around every couple of decads. And maybe that's a good thing. That' not to say it wasn't depressng as hell to listen to Nirvana. It takes a certain type of mood to by in. But when I hear the Bowie cover, "Man who sold the world" something happens to me I can't explain. That whole unplugged gig was one in a million! Top-shelf! Man I would have loved to see what he would have dones differently musically over the years. B/c he hinted at that. Totally changing directions and whatnot. But we'll never know sadly.