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Movieweb does not have the CLOVERFIELD Monster and Paramount is not dumping HD DVD - Financial Times

Hey folks, Harry here... working on my DVD column - I got hit with some dire dreaded strain of some evil viral infection and have just come out of the haze of strange colored substances flung from me lungs... And I get to the computer to see... "CLOVERFIELD MONSTER ONLINE" and "PARAMOUNT SAYS HELLO BLU-RAY" -- Well... ok, let's check on these. The alleged CLOVERFIELD monster comes from MovieWeb - That is not an early design - nor is it - the final design. It is, according to my sources (and my sources do kick ass) - "BUNK" SO I looked up "BUNK" and found that it is a built in platform bed... or a trough for feeding cattle... or sleeping quarters... or...... HUMBUG, NONSENSE! So... I guess you can sleep on that image, feed it to your cattle... or just know that it's total bullshit. NOW for rumor number 2... Paramount dumping HD DVD because Warners did. Not True. I generally consider THE FINANCIAL TIMES above such rumor mongering, but it seems some folks are eagerly advancing the complete and total obliteration of the HD DVD format. We're hearing rumors like Paramount dropping the format (NOT TRUE) as well as rumors that Sony paid Warners through the nose, because they fear that Disney and Fox may leave them (Also not true). There's rumors aplenty - I just wanted to settle these two HUGE rumors going around the net today. THE CLOVERFIELD MONSTER is not online... yet. PARAMOUNT is not leaving HD DVD. That's the gosh darned truth of the matter.

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  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Clears that up - FirsT?

    by AdrianVeidt

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST


    by skywalkerfamily

    Aint it Rumor news!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:36 p.m. CST

    Yes. Finally. I can die happy... that is, after I see the monste

    by AdrianVeidt

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    skywalkerfamily = pwnd n00b

    by AdrianVeidt

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:37 p.m. CST

    I have an HD player...

    by kuldan

    ...and I'm still going to buy a BLU-Ray player when they become a little cheaper, because, damnit, I want to watch "3:10 to Yuma" again...but, in good quality.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    That maquette is way to lame to be 'The Cloverfield Monster'

    by KillaKane

    Bunk indeed. Hope it's got squid lips! ;-)

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:38 p.m. CST

    PARAMOUNT is dumping HD DVD!

    by Orionsangels

    You're gonna eat your words. This is all smoke and mirrors as usual.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:40 p.m. CST

    Did anyone verify if President Baltar was full of shit or not?

    by AdrianVeidt

    Because his spoilers redefined the effing word for me if he's telling the truth.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:41 p.m. CST

    Twenty third!

    by skywalkerfamily

    I heard that betamax was coming back.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:42 p.m. CST

    Sorry, Harry, but youre wrong on Paramount

    by ShiftyEyedDog2

    Other sites with much better sources in the DVD/AV industry have heard from those in the know that Paramount is in fact exercising an "out" clause in their contract with HD-DVD. Universal is expected to be making the switch as well.<br><Br> I think at this point, HD-DVD isn't even fighting it anymore. They're going to accept loss, and let the studios make the switch to the surviving format.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    Make this

    by travis-dane

    How much more TB`s will this shit eat up?

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    I'm going to laugh my ass off...IF

    by F-1000

    The reason we haven't seen the Cloverfield monster yet is because they never show it. A La Blair Witch. <p> It'd be an ironic "fuck you" to the fan boys following this like the second coming of MAN IN SUIT. (Which is still better btw.) <p> As for Cloverfield DO NOT WANT. This is the only movie that I have no interest in, will not support (all because of the lame marketing and vaugeness), but may actually download illegally just to spite the filmmakers. <p> Seriously, if a "Blair Witch" shaky cam treatment of a monster movie, set in NYC (Is that the only city we can destroy? even after 9/11? Why not some other city with taller buildings?) doesn't sound like the most shoddy, shitty, derivative idea to you, you need to be recalibrated.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:45 p.m. CST

    OK Harry, I've got this bookmarked for when they do drop HD DVD.

    by polyh3dron

    It's such a weak denial it's not funny.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Is this The Digital Bits?

    by skywalkerfamily

    Where the cool movie news?

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    I wished they dumped it, end this war right now and let the hd m

    by Evil Hobbit

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:46 p.m. CST

    Paramount's not leaving HD DVD?

    by kyle051554

    So, all the news about the escape clause within their contract with the HD DVD group (that Paramount could leave if Warner went Blu-ray exclusive) was all crap? Sure.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    This is getting crazy...

    by RAVENL0RD

    Well, I don't know whether Paramount is going BLU or not, but it is all over the web today. Paramount had better start talking, one way or the other.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:47 p.m. CST

    I wished they dumped it, end this war right now and let the hd m

    by Evil Hobbit

    I wished they dumped it, end this war right now and let the hd market grow quick and swiftly!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    harry please help

    by marv42134213

    I am totally confused. I just got an HD-A3 for x-mas, now everybody on the other board is saying it is obsolete and I am idiot for getting it. Are HD-DVDs going away or is everyone just going apeshit over nothing. I know you are busy, but I think you would know the real answer. Thank you

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    I just got off a chocolate covered phone with Blu Ray

    by ArcadianDS


  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:49 p.m. CST

    Sorry, Harry...

    by epitone

    This morning, The Digital Bits reported that "reliable industry sources" had confirmed the Paramount switch to Blu-Ray. You're going to have to offer more than just a "NOT TRUE" to convince me otherwise.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:51 p.m. CST

    Another source..from Bloomberg...

    by skimn

    Jan. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Viacom Inc.'s Paramount Pictures denied a newspaper report that the studio is poised to follow Time Warner Inc. in abandoning Toshiba Corp.'s HD DVD technology. ``Paramount's current plan is to continue to support the HD DVD format,'' Brenda Ciccone, a spokeswoman for Paramount, said in an e-mail today."....I think that would about clinch that.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:52 p.m. CST

    epitone, good point.

    by RAVENL0RD

    People can say what they want about the Digital Bits, but they nailed the Warner move SMACK dab on the head.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:56 p.m. CST

    It's inevitable Harry!

    by Orionsangels

    Every company shows a brave face when they're going down with the ship. It's PR bullshit

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:56 p.m. CST

    So now AICN > The Financial Times?

    by Razorback


  • Jan. 8, 2008, 3:58 p.m. CST

    2 girls one HD DVD player

    by skywalkerfamily

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:03 p.m. CST

    Paramount may leave but not today, they have released a statemen

    by Stormwatcher

    The way I see it is as follows: A) I can get cheap HDDVD's from Bestbuy cuz the format will be dropped so that is awesome. B) the Blu camp will buy me out, maybe a disc exchange or some sht like that. Either way, I am not dropping 500 bucks on a Blu Ray when I got a HDDVD for 150. Maybe I will just wait a year now before buying any more discs.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST


    by Kragmose

    I never cared which format dies first, as long as one of them do. It looks like it'll be HD-DVD, so be it. And this has nothing to do with my ownership of a PS3, cause I don't watch movies on it.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:06 p.m. CST

    HD and Blue Ray are messing with the DVD

    by skywalkerfamily

    world and both need to die a horrible death.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:07 p.m. CST

    So when Paramount drops HD DVD in the upcoming weeks

    by AlwaysThere

    then what will you say?

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    Err... the Paramount denial...

    by ckane123

    "Continue to support" HD-DVD is the same thing that Warners is doing... they will release all announced HD-DVD titles and then STOP MAKING ANY MORE mid-year. So having Paramount saying they will "continue to support" HD-DVD could simply mean "...until the date we can exercise our opt-out clause" - Which will not be during CES, but I'd wager will be around the same time Warner's "ceases support."

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:11 p.m. CST

    We can only hope...

    by jab1981

    Paramount needs to hurry up and drop HD-DVD. This war's been over for a while... all HD-DVD is doing is making it that much harder for the consumers who are ready to move on. I own an HD-DVD player and I wish it would've won, but I regret every movie I purchased in that format. Just another movie I'll be buying on Blu-Ray.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:12 p.m. CST

    "Not dumping HD-DVD"

    by jj9126

    Sure as hell doesn't mean "not going format neutral". I don't expect Paramount to dump HD-DVD, either...but they're sure as hell not going to stay exclusive.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:14 p.m. CST


    by leewan

    Financial times reported a "source" close to paramount stated paramount was going to support blu-ray. Most logical people do not jump on that as a publisher reporting hard facts.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:15 p.m. CST

    Paramount is going...

    by DigitalBeachWar

    Blue-Ray. i just read it here ogs/null/64393

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Paramount will not dump HD-DVD, but will go Neutral

    by dtpena


  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:20 p.m. CST

    Whats all this "Blu-Ray" stuff?!

    by DoctorWho?


  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:21 p.m. CST


    by King Psyz

    They're a valuable tool. Look we know the talking heads at Paramount are gonna say that the rumors are false. But the fact is that they cancelled announcing their new release schedule like they were supposed to. Now they're working on getting Blu Rays pressed on new releases and back catolog and will make the announcement right around the time their inventory of HD-DVDs is almost exhausted. Several tech and financial sources > you say so.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:23 p.m. CST

    Sorry, Harry

    by WhereNoManHasGoneBefore

    Sorry, Harry. I love you, buddy, and I've been visiting your site for over ten years. But in this Paramount/HD-DVD thing you are wrong, wrong, wrong. Whereas your site relies on rumor and "spies", The Digital Bits doesn't print ANYTHING unless they have it from very reliable sources (even if they do have to remain anonymous sometimes). I've been reading The Bits as long as I've been readin Aint It Cool News, and -- totally my guess -- I'd say you are right maybe 50-60% of the time. The Bits gets it right 99% to 100% of the time. (Just one example, they've been saying FOR MONTHS that Blu-Ray was going to win this stupid, nearsited, greedy format war. And now it appears the writing is on the wall.) If The Digital Bits say "reliable sources" are telling them that both Paramount AND Universal are days or hours from announcing a jump to Blu-Ray, it's going to happen. Period. Mark my words. The format war is over. All that's left is the crying and screaming and whining from the HD-DVD camp.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:24 p.m. CST


    by sokitome

    When I first saw the Cloverfield trailer I thought it was cool but that was only on the assumption that only part of the movie would be shot like that. Please tell me the whole movie isn't shot like "blair witch shaky cam bullshit? If that is the case then I don't know about this flick. I'm still curious but this may be a "wait for dvd" if it is entirely shot like that. If anyone knows if it is please tell.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:30 p.m. CST

    Why would Paramount want to go neutral?

    by LoneGun

    They were neutral before they sided with HD-DVD. They claimed to have sided with HD-DVD because they thought that format had some kind of edge in the format war. It only makes sense that they will want to side with Blu-ray, now that Blu-ray has the obvious advantage. It's hard to see them going back to being neutral, and it's hard to imagine them staying with HD-DVD, under the latest circumstances.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:31 p.m. CST


    by Pennsy

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    monster monster monster..loads a money

    by semisaj

    I have it on good authority that is indeed JJ Abrams heard it on AICN first chaps

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:39 p.m. CST

    Blu-Ray is FAR superior.

    by HB_Dad

    Blu-Ray is FAR superior. More capacity = less compression and more room for extra goodies. Now it has a vast majority of exclusive backing, and go into most stores (Best Buy, Target, etc)and the Blu-Ray demo and display is hard to miss! Such is not the case with HD-DVD. HD-DVD needs die NOW!!!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Funny that movieweb posted that picture

    by cornponious


  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Gotta love the "Warners Payoff" rumor,

    by Fist Dirtbox

    especially as I'm yet to read anywhere legitimate reporting it. Unlike, of course, the Paramount/Dreamworks payola, which was substantiated as being a $150mil piece of market rigging on the part of the pro HD-DVD camp and reported everywhere as such. <br> So basically the ONLY HD-DVD exclusive supporter is doing so because *THEY* were paid off! And that aint a rumor :p

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Fuck HD-DVD and Blue Ray

    by semisaj

    Anybody with any sense knows that we are now in the digital age and all these hardformats are outdated and part of history..dont buy in to it..its a waste of time..argue with me in 2 years know its true

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    More news by the end of today?

    by AlwaysThere

    It just might happen. More to come soon.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:42 p.m. CST

    Harry you are wrong

    by BrowncoatJedi

    There is no reason for Paramount, or Universal for that matter, to stay loyal to a dead format. What are they, idiots to don't like money? They will at least go neutral.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    We're all just trying to beat the system.

    by Orionsangels

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:49 p.m. CST

    So the monster is a big Humbug???

    by Bert Fischer

    Those things are nasty.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    The Paramount Deal=18 Months

    by Jerri Blank

    Paramount was paid $150 million to switch to HD-DVD and that agreement was only for 18 months. And don't go screaming at me, I'm not in this stupid war. The only HD programming my HD set receives is what I get through my HD cable box. I'm still with SD DVD until this shit storm is finally over, and even then I may be done for good. I'm just mad as hell at the studios for putting us through this goddamned format war. As a matter of fact, with the exception of a few obscure titles and of course, the Criterion disc of Lindsay Anderson's "This Sporting Life" later this month, I've stopped purchasing software all together. I'm nearly 40 and I've bled enough for my love of film. I just can't give anymore.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:50 p.m. CST

    Microsoft's head of Xbox games says "blu ray drive possible"

    by ArcadianDS

    They're hedging their bets over at Xbox now. The president of the games division has said when questioned about what will happen to the 360 should Blu-Ray indeed emerge as the standard platform - he says that developing a blu-ray drive for the 360 is something they are prepared to do.

  • We have all seen a Faux-zilla attacking everything. I want giant gerbil action. And maybe I am just old fashioned but I would hate for everything to go digital, what happens when the hard drive crashes? Can you imagine the people who spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on their movie collections being happy with that? A hard drive on a computer or an external hard drive only really lasts a few years. I hate when mine crashes and I loose any data I was foolish enough not to have backed up on CD or DVD. DVDs and CDs I get more than a decades worth of use out of and even then they are still going strong.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:54 p.m. CST

    Broadband distribution will defeat DVD in 5 years

    by Razorback

    The HD format requires at least twice the bandwidth and storage space. Don't count on BR going away for at least 10 years.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    yeh right Harry

    by metaluna

    You just keep on kidding yourself that's what they mean.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    you spotty swetting nerds

    by semisaj

    my brothers bigger than your brother,my xbox is better than you ps3,rah rah rah,i know more than you...god haven't some you left the playground?Why don't you just let it play out like they did with Betamax v VHS, ps2 v xbox V gamecube, mp3 players v guys have no control its all about the huge worldwide gonglomerates that have thier fingers in everything from mass media, banking, electronics,medication etc will be what it will be..let it pan out over the next year...then waste your money on whoever wins..not you by the hardformats are history deal with it

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5 p.m. CST

    Downloadable rears ugly head again...

    by wchblade

    Before people start tearing me a new one I'm an impartial dude who flipped a coin based on the loads of info for both formats and lost apparently as I just plunked down $400.00 (some part of this was gift cards though) on a Toshiba A31. Anyway Comcast announced today a ultra-super fast internet connection a CES that claims to allow HD video downloads at 4 minutes per download. That said it'll be a LOOOOONG time before the majority of people out there adapt to it or can afford it I'm sure.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:01 p.m. CST

    it's the ECHO Chamber, people!

    by ulcer

    The various tech site are ALL reporting the story from the financial time, people! They are not confirming the news, they are just <b>repeating</b> the same story!<br><br> Paramount spokepeople have denied it already, the various sites copying the FT story have not updated their story.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:02 p.m. CST


    by Pound Sand

    I was in a bar last night down in the Loop, and heard from a guy who knew a guy who knew a guy who knew a gal who used to work for the lady who used to do Jim Belushi's car detailing that this was greenlighted?

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:03 p.m. CST

    I doubt it's the monster, BUT

    by shenlong77

    I'm lucky to have an invitation to attend a screening next Monday, so there's only6 days to go! I'm sure it'll start getting spoiled then though...

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:06 p.m. CST

    Hasn't Paramount already gone neutral??

    by dr_john_zoidberg

    To a certain degree? Transformers was a Paramount/Dreamworks joint, and correct me if I'm wrong, but that flick was released on BD and HDDVD, RIGHT?? That was 4 months ago. Someone please respond to this and let me know what the clause on that little slip up was. EXCLUSIVE, to me, means only one, not the other, and certainly not only exclusive when they feel like it. HIT ME BACK FELLAS!!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    According to Jim, The movie, is on its way

    by Pipple

    With comic prequel, toys, lunch boxes, and official laughtrack due to be released sometime around the holidays.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    Death to HD Discs.

    by WickedMonster

    Death to Blu-ray OR Death to HD-DVD. Now, if only I had a Blu-ray flag to burn. Heck, even a user manual would do.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:09 p.m. CST

    Retract above post...

    by dr_john_zoidberg

    Looks like I WAS wrong. I could have sworn that Trannies was available on Blu Ray as well as HDDVD, but I can find no evidence of such a release. Sorry. :-/

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:10 p.m. CST

    What happened to minidiscs?

    by WickedMonster

    Haven't heard from them for a while...

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    the yanks are going to war with Iran it's official

    by semisaj

    starting to hear the same noises we heard about Iraq leading up to that hidious odious wrongful war..they are provoking us on our boarders and against our ships..etc etc..god the yanks govt are fucking cunts!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    What happened to laserdiscs?

    by AdrianVeidt

    Haven't heard from them for a while, either...

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:19 p.m. CST

    what happened to 8 tracks

    by semisaj

    havent heard about them for a while..hold on they used one in lost the episode where hurley rides the van

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:22 p.m. CST

    of course they are going to drop hd-dvd

    by Mr. Olson

    The writing is on the wall.. 70% of all movie libraries now heading to the blu-ray side only 30% of back catalog now possible on HD-DVD. Paramount when part of 150 million payment dropped Blu-ray so fast they had to set aside disks they had all ready produced and were expected to arrive in stores that next week. They are saying very generic statements like right now we support hd-dvd. I totally believe that once they exercise their escape clause and/or find a legal loophole we will get the new all Blu-ray announcement.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:24 p.m. CST

    "From" <-> "about"

    by WickedMonster

    Ok. To be honest, my mind is fried. But then English is my fifth language.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:24 p.m. CST

    Mysterious Yobo

    by semisaj

    you just made me chuckle out loud, s'all im saying!!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:26 p.m. CST

    Paramount adding Bluray doesn't mean dumping HD-DVD

    by yodasteve

    The two things aren't mutually exclusive. Paramount can go back to Blu-Ray and continue with HD-DVD. They probably have an out in their contract so they aren't exclusive to HD-DVD if enough of the industry switched to Blu-Ray. <p>So harry is probalby right, Paramount is not dumping HD-DVD, but The Financial Times is probably right that Paramount is going to release titles on Blu-Ray too. -Steve

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:42 p.m. CST

    Buy both, you cheap fucks!

    by Hercules

    I bought a HD-DVD player for $100; that's like the cost of five or six DVDs, right? The Blu-ray players will cost the same in a year or two. The real expense in HD is the screen, which still runs a thousand or two per unit (but is compatible with all HD formats). If you've made that kind of investment in an HD screen, throw a few more bucks at some HD players already. <p> To the guy who says he'll have to replace all his HD-DVD movies with Blu-ray: Why the heck would you do that? You can connect both machines; your HDTV probably has loads of inputs. And if you somehow bought the only HDTV with one input, you can buy surely buy a router or an A/B switch for less than one disc would cost you. If Blu-ray wins the format war, your HD-DVD player won't magically evaporate. And in the meantime you can still buy Star Trek and Galactica and Cloverfield in HD.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:45 p.m. CST

    I've bought niether...

    by KentButabi

    cause I'm a double cheap fuck.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Because I hate having old technology next to my setup

    by Orionsangels

    Okay I bought both. I have Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Blu-Ray wins. Now what? I keep that HD-DVD player in my living to watch 15 HD-DVD movies I own? No, I replace them with Blu-Ray versions and put the HD-DVD player next to my VCR in the closet.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    People think because downloading HD movies now is tough

    by shitstorm23

    that it will always be tough. Wrong. There is this thing called technology and it moves fast. If you want your movie on a disc, burn it to one. If you want huge cases filled with your collection so you can port it around, burn them all to disc. The technology isn't THAT far away. Add in Verizon FiOS and faster cable downloads and this is just this year. There will be multi-terabyte set tops that allow storage or just On-Demand movies/shows/extras in HD. I have plenty of friends that torrent movies to their Ipods and burn them to discs to watch at home, and the quality is less than DVD, but still looks pretty damn good. People like HD, but only cinefiles are REALLY into the artifacting and all that shit. I'm going from HD-DVD back to standard because the difference isn't that big and I'm on a 50" Hitachi Plasma. I never got a chance to watch Planet Earth, but I bet that would look very cool as it was filmed specifically for HD, but everything else is close enough for me. <p> Downloads for some, little blue discs for others!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:48 p.m. CST

    Because I hate having old technology next to my setup

    by Orionsangels

    Okay I bought both. I have Blu-ray and HD-DVD. Blu-Ray wins. Now what? I keep that HD-DVD player in my living room to watch 15 HD-DVD movies I own? No, I replace them with Blu-Ray versions and put the HD-DVD player next to my VCR in the closet.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Blu-Rays are huge though, like a 6gb download

    by Orionsangels

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:49 p.m. CST

    Buy both players! They'll probably be obsolete

    by skywalkerfamily

    in a year anyway, when people realize they don't care.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:54 p.m. CST

    Yes, if you hate old technology next to your setup ...

    by Hercules

    ... you should play the $300 to replace your 15 HD-DVDs with 15 Blu-ray versions of the same title.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:56 p.m. CST

    by nightfalls

    i realy just want to walk in to this movie having seen nothing and the first time i see the monster is on screen i think they are doing a good job keeping it under wraps ,but this would be a ok monster

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 5:59 p.m. CST

    I also bought a $300 HD-DVD player

    by Hercules

    But the $100 one works just as good. <br>But you're right about me being a cheap fuck. That's the part of me waiting for Blu-rays to hit $100.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST


    by travis-dane

    that`s all!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:06 p.m. CST

    Can't drop the bias can you Harry

    by ookiespookie

    How many times did Warner deny going blu even days before they did. It is done, period.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:16 p.m. CST

    Don't forget the 'nuclear' option

    by Mickey The Idiot

    Tosh launching an HD-DVD recorder, the one thing the studios don't want out there. Of course, those who've already opted one way or another would remain fucked, but please, all you HD DVD bleaters, most of the deals basically gave you free discs in value (or close to) of the player itself. So, as long as those are movies you want to watch in HD (e.g. 300, Bourne ID, Full Metal Jacket, The Thing etc), what's the fucking problem?

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:21 p.m. CST

    This is hilarious

    by jae683

    You really pissed 'em off this time Harry. Even the slightest bit of 'bad' news, and the Blu-ites get up in arms. you'd think it was a personal threat to them or something.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:21 p.m. CST

    Be Nice to each other guys,it is good for your HEALTH!

    by travis-dane

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:22 p.m. CST

    one too few "yet"s in that last sentence...

    by Obscura

    not that im a blueray supporter, im staying out of this battle, but sooner or late one will dominate. wish someone would just make cheap players that played both formats so this battle would be over.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:24 p.m. CST

    one word....

    by red ezra

    AWESOME - um - wait - I was having a flashback

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:25 p.m. CST

    it's not THE monster...

    by Stone Cold Killa

    it's one of the little ones. see? that way Harry isn't lying. tricky bastard. how's j.j.'s dick taste? it's even designed by the same guy who did the creature designs for the movie.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:25 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield Monster

    by caerlas

    I chose not to read Cumpston's review and I refuse to check out any more spoilers regarding Cloverfield. I'd prefer to watch it without knowing everything that's coming. I'll know what it looks like when I see it in theaters.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:28 p.m. CST

    The MONSTER is a BLU-RAY disc...

    by travis-dane

    and his drones are HD-DVD`s!You know it`s true!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:39 p.m. CST

    Really? We'll see...

    by wadi77<p>Remove the space from that link.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:46 p.m. CST


    by drew mcweeny

    ... where exactly have I defended the STAR TREK script piece? Hmmm? Please... cite the place I did so. Link me if you can. Or shut the fuck up. The only thing I can verify about TREK is what I personally have run. <P>It is amazing to me how much time and energy is spent by people being fucking assholes to the writers on this site rather than actually discussing films or rumors. I guess everybody's gotta have a hobby.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:50 p.m. CST

    no shit thats not it

    by ironic_name

    in other news: salt tastes like salt.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:53 p.m. CST

    Yeah, it's been a bummer reading some of these

    by kikuchiyoboy

    TB's as of late. It became some sort of bitch fest. <br> <br> Hell, look at everyone choosing sides over a piece of spinning plastic. <br> <br> Anyway's I can't believe this film is not too far off now. I REALLY hope it's a good ride. <br> <br> I could care less if they show the monster or not. I just want to be at the edge of my damn seat. The Descent gave away it's creatures early on, but it was still a good creepy ride.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:54 p.m. CST

    herc, since you are loaded, BUY US ALL BOTH, RICH FUCK!

    by ironic_name

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:54 p.m. CST

    Moriarty, they're jjust trying to get attention.

    by jae683

    winy little brats that think the world revolves around them. This whole 'Harry is a HD sellout argument' is just as hilarious. Even if they're right (which I don't think they are), so what? Think Bill Hunt at digitalbits isn't getting money from Sony? It's called product endorsement. It's not illegal. It's far less reprehensible to me than the Viral marketing a lot of companies are using these days.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:57 p.m. CST

    by paperthin0

    we love to discuss movies and rumors. like this one - why have you guys spent so much time shilling hd dvd? that's what we're wondering. we're wondering why we get day-old information from variety and DVD reviews. we'd like it if you did post some goddamn rumors every now and then... i mean, we keep hoping there will be some. and don't put a talkback section on your site if you don't want people to out you for something.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 6:57 p.m. CST

    Sometimes ya just need to be a fuckin' asshole.

    by Horseflesh

    Like when the owner of the site mourns the loss of Anna Nicole Smith like she was important or any kind of positive force on this planet. Or when he recommends the Flintstones movie. That's a good time for the great taste of asshole!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:03 p.m. CST

    If Paramount doesn't drop HDDVD, Spielberg may drop Paramount

    by Proman1984

    And good thing too. Hello Universal! And aslo, WHY SHOULD we buy both?

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:05 p.m. CST

    Blu-ray hasn't won yet!

    by Mr. Nix

    The big battle is for mainstream acceptance, and they have a looooong way to go for that. Right now, to the average consumer, it's in the "more money than brains" price range. Don't take my word for it, ask anyone other than a Sony fanboy.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:06 p.m. CST

    What they really need to do is...

    by Orionsangels

    Release the Wizard of Speed and Time on Blu-Ray

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:10 p.m. CST

    I watched HD on demand last night

    by INWOsuxRED

    Why should I buy a player? Why would I marry this cow when I already get the milk without buying two different players for it? I wish I had all the money back from the VHS and DVD video collections I have that I never watch. Now, I push a couple of buttons and I watch an HD movie without leaving the house and without the clutter of movie collections. Starz & Cinemax both have quite a few HD movies up onDemand right now, at no additional charge to subscribers, not to mention all the HD movies that are on all the time. Those collections will continue to grow. Virtually every new movie I've watched on cable has been in HD. No download time at all. All the new releases are available PPV on HD and then they wind up in HD on the premium channels, and that isn't going to change. I'm pretty much done buying overpriced shiny coasters, and the stupid boxes that play them. The landfills of the future will thank you for not filling them up with yet another generation of planned obsolescence.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:12 p.m. CST

    The fat lady (no, not Harry) is backstage warming up

    by Chrighton

    Blu-ray has nearly 75% of Hollywood locked up exclusively now, and has pretty much all of the blockbuster movies. Paramount doesn't even have Spielberg's titles under their exclusivity contract, so they don't have much to bargain with. <p> Retailers are already dumping HDDVD products like they were infected with AIDS and consumers are returning their holiday gifts because they've been obsoleted. <p>There's no coming back from this one.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:14 p.m. CST

    If Toshiba were smart...

    by Mr. Nix

    ...they would adopt a "scorched Earth" policy and drop an inexpensive HD-DVD recorder on the market, that way video pirates can give the motion picture industry the bloody ass raping they deserve. PIRACY = KARMA!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:14 p.m. CST

    Hey Proman1984 and Chrigton

    by jae683

    Links please?

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:15 p.m. CST

    i don't care...

    by colinjbooth

    dvd rules!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:16 p.m. CST


    by colinjbooth

    until i buy a bloorai thingymajimmy player

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:17 p.m. CST

    Sorry Harry, you bet wrong horse.

    by The Outlander

    HD DVD is soon to be the Betamax of 21st Century.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:20 p.m. CST

    The name of the movie is NOT Cloverfield

    by Steve_Dooku

    ...oh, nevermind

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:30 p.m. CST

    where's memories of murder when you need 'em

    by irrelevntelefant

    need a little positivity in this tb

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:37 p.m. CST


    by Skin26

    Spend less time and money online whining like little fuckpigs and get both Ive got the hd drive for the 360 and ive got a ps3 for blueray PLUS i get both consoles games. I couldnt give a shit who wins the war just as i couldnt give a shit what console is best,I win both ways !!! You know it makes sense

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:38 p.m. CST

    Sorry jae683 I have no links for that

    by Proman1984

    at the moment. it's in the air

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:40 p.m. CST

    INWO, how much does cable cost you?

    by Zardoz

    Yeah, I did the Comcast HD OnDemand for a while, too, but it got really expensive after the initial promotional deal was over. I figure it would have been about $100+/ month for all the bells and whistles, not counting pay-per-view HD, which was $6/movie. Compare that to approx. $17/ month for Netflix, which has both blu-ray and HD-DVD (for now, anyway). Bonus for OnDemand: you can record all programming to a DVD-R disc, etc., permanently via component output. (not in HD, though, but still very good quality) I got Casino Royale, 300, Apocalypto, 40 year old Virgin and countless others this way... ;-)

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:43 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield Monster ***MAJOR SPOILER***

    by That 70s Venom

    I found a top-secret pic of the genuine Cloverfield monster on a different spoiler site: ***SPOILER WARNING DO NOT COPY AND PASTE LINK IF U DONT WANT TO HAVE THE MONSTER SPOILED FOR YOU***

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:52 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield of dreams

    by Orionsangels

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:54 p.m. CST

    But mr venom, your link says hillay_clinton.jpg

    by Orionsangels

    You spoiled the joke. You should have gone with

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:57 p.m. CST

    I ain't buying shit until my old DVD player breaks...

    by The Dum Guy

    Fuck, I still have alot VHS(s) that I watch every now and then, I want a combo VHS/DVD/HD/Blu-ray system... and damnit, I want it to play my dad's old vinyl records and 8-tracks (nothing like the live eleven-minute version of Free Bird, with a five-minute piano solo).

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:59 p.m. CST

    anchorite:: 3:10 to Yuma had a good 'hero'...

    by The Dum Guy

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 7:59 p.m. CST

    Technology may move fast...

    by Johnno

    But adoption of said technology? Not necessarily so... How long ahas DSL internet been out? So why can't I get high speed DSL in my area???? Blu-Ray is advanced technology... but see how long it is for a fucking standard to get adopted? See, aside from technology there are these things called economics, cost, distrbution models, replacement programs, cable internet providers putting bandwidth caps because of people who download too much, and human beings other excamples of stupidity that get in the way! Digital Downloading is probably already ready technology wise with stuff like Internet 2, better fiber optics, internet through electricity etc. etc. Doesn't mean it's feasible for release due to other shitty circumstances... this format war is precisely an example of technology taking a shitty route for adoption... and most people are even arguing for the less superior technology because of costs even when it hinders them...

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:12 p.m. CST


    by the beef

    Watch the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN director's cut because it's full of great heroes. Also second the 3:10 TO YUMA recommendation from The Dum Guy. Ironically, both are available on Blu-Ray. That's how I tie in to this article.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:17 p.m. CST

    I Just Bought my HD DVD Player a Few Weeks Ago


    Just got it working a few days ago. So, of course, Warners and probably Paramount bail. Still, it's got good upscaling, at it came with 10 titles--only one of which I was sure to buy, but still, I like the ones I've got and by the time it goes kerplop, I'll probably have watched my HD DVD titles enough to satisfy. I regret my decision a little. But only a little. I'm still looking forward to the HD DVDs I've got coming. Frighteners! Yay!

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:21 p.m. CST

    I liked 3:10 to Yuma

    by Orionsangels

    The ending is a bummer, but still a fun Western. Especially western's by Sergio Leone. He's one of my all time favorite directors.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:22 p.m. CST


    by Orionsangels

    I forgot to say, I love westerns before my second sentence. Now it seems out of place hehe.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:24 p.m. CST

    has anyone put these up.........didn't see em

    by Nerv31

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:25 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Balian, King Baldwin, Nasir, Saladin ... these were leaders who knew the value of mercy and the cost of bloodshed are not to be wasted. Unlike the kind of scum you bow down before.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:26 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    My mailbox was a happy camper.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:26 p.m. CST


    by Hell's Cigarette

    The Financial Times is reporting that Paramount IS poised to drop HD-DVD. See the link in the next post.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:27 p.m. CST


    by Hell's Cigarette

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:27 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Took a while.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:28 p.m. CST

    Seriously, about the monster- [spoiler?]

    by Regenhund

    A few weeks back someone posted a link to a pick that showed the monster, the crab-like monster-mites and their scale compared to the statue of liberty and a normal human. The monster looked like a big shaggy whale with legs. Can anyone vouch for it's validity?

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Regenhund:: that pic wasn't legit

    by The Dum Guy

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:43 p.m. CST

    Apple TV

    by cousindave

    Just wait for the 1080p Apple TV - its coming - download all your movies in 1080p from iTunes. Blu Ray & HD DVD are both losers.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 8:48 p.m. CST

    Check this out - Microsoft will consider going Blu-Ray

    by Orionsangels

    If consumers demand it.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 9:06 p.m. CST

    Microsoft Going Blu-ray

    by wadi77<p>Remove the space from that link.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 9:11 p.m. CST

    Thanks Dum Guy

    by Regenhund

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 9:14 p.m. CST

    It would be wise for Paramount go Blu right now.

    by LoneGun

    At least, it seems so from a business perspective. The sooner they switch to Blu-ray, the closer they'll be to cashing in on a market that's likely to boom once the format war ends. If they can opt out of their agreement with HD-DVD, why not do it sooner than later? As a matter of fact, this might be the perfect time to do it, while much of the tech media attention is on Warners. Who could blame Paramount for switching to Blu-ray, right now?

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 9:17 p.m. CST


    by jdfincola

    Don't state speculation as fact. The article you posted is entirely speculation. MS has said if consumers demand blu-ray they will consider going in that direction. MS going blu requires two separate acts, it is no a done deal. You are feeding people misinformation.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 9:18 p.m. CST

    JLA movie DELAYED (maybe FOREVER)

    by Vesuvio

    Can I get an AMEN for that??? ... “Justice League is indeed in danger of not starting production on time and maybe even getting scrapped altogether” is what a studio source told the IESB last week. "The concerns are that the script is not ready to go in front of cameras, and also that the budget is getting a bit out of control, the WGA strike has proven to be Kryptonite to Superman and friends."

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 9:21 p.m. CST


    by wadi77

    I post the link, not speculation.<p>It's up to you guys to decide.<p>Yeah, the post title may be misleading though.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 9:38 p.m. CST

    Oh yeah Harry? Then I guess you haven't seen the concept sketch

    by Sith Witch So you see, the monster HAS been online for weeks.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 9:48 p.m. CST

    Whale crossed with a crab = AWFUL.

    by Rev. Slappy

    The possible Cloverfield monster artwork I saw looked like a whale crossed with a crab. I looked ridiculous -- beyond terrible. I hope and pray it's a fake.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 10:01 p.m. CST

    Harry, I can't WAIT for the egg to be on your face.

    by polyh3dron

    Warner denied they were going Blu just days before they announced doing just that. Paramount won't announce it until they are good and ready.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 10:11 p.m. CST

    So Paramount's not dropping HD-DVD...

    by ZoeFan

    This from the same guy who said the famous words, "I choose HD-DVD and here's why...". Harry, you're great but stick to what you know. Becuase you sure don't know the home movie market at all. This includes the format war to the lackluster projector you bought. Enjoy the image degradation that's common with LCD projectors. This should kick in within a year based on how much I believe you'll use it. This probably comes off mean, but it's the truth.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 10:20 p.m. CST

    Golden Globes

    by That 70s Venom

    Honestly, who gives a fuck about the Golden Globes? They can suck my Golden Globes. Besides, the Oscars is where it's at. As long as they don't cancel the Oscars, we're good to go.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 10:21 p.m. CST

    Sorry, but Financial Times > AICN


    Paramount is indeed jumping ship from HD-DVD and going Blu-Ray -- they just weren't ready to make it official today. But it's just a matter of time before they do.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 10:31 p.m. CST

    is this it?

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 10:33 p.m. CST

    here it is...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 10:45 p.m. CST

    Paramount to Blu_Ray

    by Tigger11

    Harry stop shilling for HD-DVD, its beneath you. FN is just reporting what everyone is saying at CES and which Paramount press release isnt denying. If Parmount is gained by Blu-Ray this lost cause because even more lost for Toshiba's failed format.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 10:55 p.m. CST

    The best cloverfield ads hit youtube on the 17th

    by ThePilgrim

    They will feature homemade clips from cellphones and camera's from other people. Showing more illusive shots of the monster and the rampage in newyork, and so on. They might even sneek a few fake news clips on networks like MTV and G4. The end of the viral campain will be intense and really help to sell it as something that happened. It will be the closest amn thing this generation gets to a radio broadcast of WOW. Just you wait and see.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 10:55 p.m. CST

    The Cloverfield monster...

    by otm shank

    will look like whatever each person formulates in their mind. Since the camera will be jerking around to much for any of us to get a descent look at it.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 11:10 p.m. CST

    Has the Dragster rumors been shot down yet?

    by Shermdawg

    Kept hearing it was a giant lobster with a dragon head.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 11:15 p.m. CST

    Financial Times didn't say that.

    by staticneuron "However, Paramount, which is owned by Viacom, is understood to have a clause in its contract with the HD DVD camp that would allow it to switch sides in the event of Warner Bros backing Blu-ray, according to people familiar with the situation." They didn't say they would or did just that paramount has the ability to and warners choice set them up for it. Shortly after the news dropped Highdefdigest was able to get a straight response from Paramount. Even after all this is said, all this seems to be fueled by speculation. I cannot see why Paramount would not decide to abandon the sinking ship but my opinions shouldn't be comfirmed as fact. People have done a horrible job of keeping this rumor as a rumor.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST

    If your "sources" kick ass Harry why...

    by Lance2769

    ...didn't your kick ass sources warn you that buying all those HD-DVDs-soon to be drink coasters, was not the brightest thing to do. Get new sources...oh, and by the way, your endorsement of the movie 'Hatchet' sucked ass. That had to be one of the worst movies ever made. I'll think twice next time I buy into any one of your reviews of anything including the future of home video.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 11:21 p.m. CST

    It's a gigantic mutant whale

    by Prof. Pop-Cult

    I'm betting that concept drawing is the real deal. It also fits thematically with this movie: Mankind accidentally created a mutant species of humpback whale from decades of polluting the oceans and nuclear testing. The Japanese oil rig in the newsclips messed around with something in the ocean and pissed off one of these mutant whales, which has risen and will take vengeance on mankind (starting with NYC).

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 11:25 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    but there's a giant cloud approaching at the end of the movie, and there's a Voltron-like sillouette inside ...

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 11:26 p.m. CST

    Digital Downloads

    by weati

    The cocksucker Devin Fagaci over at Chud is talking about how digital downloads are going to take over. MP3s took off because they are small. Good 1080P video is going to be a huge around 40 GB download. It's atleast 10 years down the line when quite a few people start having gigabit connections before digital movie downloads will start to be a viable way to watch HD movies. Optical Media for movies is here to stay. Cloverfield getting released on HD-DVD not a chance. There's only going to be Blu and DVD when Cloverfield gets a video release. Just got done watching Shoot'em Up on Blu. The detail was soul-shattering.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 11:28 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    Game, Set, Match: Blu-Ray.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 11:30 p.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    But if I can DL a movie and burn it to disc, then I'd prefer that to buying pre-packaged.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 11:46 p.m. CST

    If I had the bandwidth

    by weati

    If I could download a 1080P movie with lossless audio and burn it to a disc it would rule. With my 3 megabit connection it would take a week to download.

  • Jan. 8, 2008, 11:47 p.m. CST


    by RAVENL0RD

    You know what? I read their site for movie news, but they are the most unlikable group of writers on the internet. At least Harry comes across as a genuine nice guy.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:07 a.m. CST

    the monster in cloverfield is the island

    by ThePilgrim

    theres real good reason to belive that the color we see behind the building is smoke- and not the monster- but to the far left you can see the tentical. people focus on the smoke. It's a large 2000 leages under the sea tenical. someone summed up a great deal of this info after noticing the wake in the ocen leaving liberty and going unbrpken into battery park. Imagine if you will that all of newyork is one ginat monster- maybe a squid like creature with the city resting on it's back and it awakens.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:27 a.m. CST

    I'm Going To Have Sex With A Midget!!!

    by ZeroCorpse

    Well. . . Not really, but it DID get your attention, didn't it? <p> That's not to say I wouldn't fuck a midget. I would. Bridget the Midget (porn star) is actually kind of cute, and the little person on Boston Legal was definitely kind of hot, so there's something you all didn't know about and Oh Gawd why am I still talking? <p> My whole point here was to get your attention to say that we don't WANT to see the Cloverfield monster yet. Anybody who posts pictures of it is a colossal douchebag. Half of the fun of this one is the suspense. Don't kill it, like the idiots who designed half of the modern "Planet of the Apes" VHS/DVD cover art as Charleton Heston kneeling in front of the Statue of Liberty. Oh, yes-- Make the cover to the movie the BIG REVEAL, and pretend that there's nobody out there who isn't seeing it for the first time, you twats! Spoil the fucking movie on the box art? Are you STUPID? Why not just put a picture of Bruce Willis' bloody corpse on the cover of "The Sixth Sense"? Why not just put the half-and-half split-image face of Pitt and Norton on the cover of "Fight Club" with the subtitle, "They're the same dude!" FUCKERS!!!! <p> Oh, wait, I'm off on a tangent. That's what I get for thinking about fucking dwarfs and using cheap tricks to get peoples' attention... Wait... What was I saying? <p> Oh, yeah-- Blu-Ray won. I'm not buying a movie player that doesn't have the support of the majority of the major studios. That's just stupid. I liked HD-DVD more, but I'm going where the movies are-- I'm a movie fan, and I really don't care which one wins at this point, as long as I gets ta watch me sum moviez. Dig? <p> Ima hafta cut down on the sugar late at night.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:44 a.m. CST

    oh man zerocorpse!

    by Cory849

    yo just ruined fight club, sixth sense and planet of the apes for me dude! whatever, i forgie you. just dont tell me what happens in Passion of the Christ. the dude with the thorny hat has me all intrigued!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:47 a.m. CST

    I'm only interested if it's Willow 2

    by Spifftacular Squirrel Girl

    And there's a Sixth Sense cover with a bloody Bruce Willis on it? Blech. <p> Better yet, why not a Crying Game cover with a big penis on it?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:04 a.m. CST

    Save up

    by TerryMalloy

    those food stamps Xiphos.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:05 a.m. CST

    Paramount's official denial!!

    by Anis

    Looks like all the jumping down AICN's throat was unwarranted: Good thing the Talkback allows plenty of room for apologies. Not that I care about that, but as an HDDVD owner, I just exhaled a tiny sigh of relief at this momentary reprieve.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:21 a.m. CST

    See? No one knows about Cloverfield

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    I said it before in another talk back and here I say it again. No one knows anything (spoiler-ish) about Cloverfield. Sure sure... "It's just a lame monster movie. There is nothing to know." or "It's all out there on the 'net". Really? Where? Show me. If there is "nothing to know" then show me a picture of the monster. Show me a detailed outline of the story. I'm telling you, this movie has had the BEST "security" of any movie ever. The 'net was plastered with pictures of Anakin all burned up a freakin' YEAR before ROTS. Less than two weeks before Cloverfield opens, and no one has even seen the monster and written a detailed description. Isn't that odd?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:25 a.m. CST

    Oh, and as far as B-R vs HDDVD goes...

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    a year or two from now when we can download (legally) HD quality versions of movies directly to a hard drive hooked up to our 50" HD TVs for less than the cost of a useless, bulky disk and case- we will all look back and laugh about this. Really kids, hard copies of digital media is SO 2007.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:27 a.m. CST


    by MC-909

    It's a whale. Trust me.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:29 a.m. CST

    I have no proof...

    by MC-909

    ...but I am certain beyond a shadow of a doubt that it's a whale.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:32 a.m. CST

    Who do you respect...

    by Tourist

    ...In Yuma? The violent, sadistic thief or the impotent failure? I don't know what film you guys saw. Great films don't have to be about pillars of moral virtue. In fact, it can be hard to find anything dramatic in the tale of ordinary goodness. I mean, Lawrence liked little boys and masochism and was a stubborn delusional asshole. Which is also why his achievements make for such fascinating cinema. I guess I liked and respected McCandliss(Spelling?) in Into The Wild, even if you can't really fully get behind someone that naive or short sighted. But at least he put his money where his mouth was and didn't have to "conquer" people to achieve his ends. For a better western with some actual heroes in it, you probally already checked out Open Range. Although I was no great fan of the film (others definately were this year) you could put forth Crowe in American Gangster. He stuck by his principles come thick or thin.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:43 a.m. CST


    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    Remember what Ronald Reagan said? "Trust but verify". A lot of people SAY what the monster is, or what the movie is about but no one SHOWS or PROVES that they know. I actually don't want to know anything, I just find it interesting that for some odd reason, this movie is the best kept secret ever in the history of secrets. Hell, Harry saw the EPII in its entirety weeks/months before it was released, but no one has a freakin' picture of a monster from a low budget movie that comes out in two weeks?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:51 a.m. CST


    by wadi77

    Where were you?<p>Warner denied the same thing 2 days before they went Blu-ray exclusive.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:05 a.m. CST

    understood emperor

    by MC-909

    But it IS a whale.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:15 a.m. CST

    does anyone really care if the monster is seen early...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i dont - i want to see it now - ill still see the dumb movie - they dont make enough monster-loose-in-city movies - 'the host' was cool - i bet this is a mutant whale like that drawing - nice idea - it grew legs and can walk - theyre mamals after all - and i still buy dvds - im not ready to go hd yet - $ - i just got the 4 disc blade runner dvd - i almost got the gift set - but my bro told me to wait til im hd ready - the hd and bluray gift sets are only 10 bucks more than the standard version - too many choices - i was happiest when there were just dvds and vhs - as for the future - i dont know anyone that is going to be downloading hd media in record times to a hd dream system that can be burned/saved in 2 years time - standard dvds still look really good to me on my old 100 pound sony wega flat screen - but im also blind in one eye - damn technology - changing faster than most people can keep up

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:16 a.m. CST

    Right there with ya Dum Guy

    by ScienceMan

    I really could give two shits which format wins. My Tv has a built in DVD player, my PS3 plays DVDs but I don't watch them on it, my laptop plays DVDs, my wife's laptop plays DVDs, our home PC plays DVDs. Jeez, I've never counted them all before now... I've got 5 DVD-playable devices in my household. Ten years ago I was in college and still wasn't using the internet or email until I graduated and bought a WebTV in 1998. Movies are fun. They are nice to watch. But am I the only one who doesn't really care thet much about the format? I too cherish the VHS collection I amassed as a youngster in the 80s. Most of them don't work anymore, but still, there is some charm in watching a twenty-year old VHS of Wrath of Khan, warts and all. I love technology and the rapidly increasing pace thereof, don't get me wrong, I'm no Luddite. I guess just taking the longview, why get all worked up over HD or Blu-ray? Both will be laughably obsolete in 10 years, when we find ourselves arguing over Panasonic's 3l3ctric 3D Boogaloo format versus IBMicrosoft's "My NoseTV" Olfact-o-vision. Besides, life is short. I decided long ago to only watch Die Hard on Christmas Eve, new family tradition. I'll only re-watch a movie if it's really damn good. Don't waste time collecting movies you've already seen. Life is ridiculously too short for that.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:39 a.m. CST

    Is this the site...

    by kuldan

    ...where I can buy my groceries online? Any thoughts?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:03 a.m. CST

    JJ Abrams said the US doesn't...

    by Ghostball

    have its own mythic movie monster - but surely the ALIEN is the most iconic movie monster ever?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:13 a.m. CST

    Rodo, you sick bastard...

    by Vamp-AICNchat

    ...I was expecting the Cloverfield monster, NOT two chicks with dicks at it!!!! BEWARE TALKBACKERS OF RODO'S LINKS ---BAN THE ASSHOLE

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:27 a.m. CST

    In ireland Broadband is a complete sham

    by emeraldboy

    and utter shambles. Its there but you cant get it. we are told constanly that it is being rolled. out. utter bollox.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:56 a.m. CST

    People clearly...

    by Tourist

    ...Take form over content. I would rather watch a great film on VHS, while many, many others on these talk backs could give two shits about the film itself, just the presentation. Witness them slavishly drooling over such masterpieces as Spider-Man 3, Yuma and Shoot Em Up, and how gloriously detailed they are. Sure, it would be NICE to see every film on a giant ass TV in crystal clear quality, but it would be far nicer to see them at the cinema. But in the end, it doesn't really matter. I just watched Pompoko and Manderlay on my shitty PC screen, and since the sound and picture are crips, clean and "Correct", the fact that they were great films had me completely forgetting that the blacks might have been marginally better on a bigger TV with a HD Disc. The improvement just isn't big enough to get me interested. And I still can't wait for downloads. Owning and storing physical media is just one giant pain in the ass, especially since the rewatch value isn't that high on most films. Of course, Australian broadband is ass play, sadly.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 5:17 a.m. CST

    Digial downloads taking over?

    by methosb

    I don't understand these people who believe that soon all content will be digital and hard formats will die out. What planet do you people live on. Only a small amount of countries have the internet infrastructure to support that. Even in the developed countries only a small amount of countries could handle it. Heck here in Australia half the population can't even get broadband and are still on dialup. Even if everyone could get broadband here 99% of people would blow their download limits (yes we still have them) with one movie. Hard formats are here to stay for a long long time. Until every country has fibre to every house and an unlimited amount of international bandwidth hard formats are going nowhere.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 5:32 a.m. CST

    Indy 4 Being Prepped for Blu-ray!

    by wadi77<p>And Indy is from Paramount! We might see the Indy trilogy on Blu-ray soon!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 5:41 a.m. CST

    Screw the news about cloverfield

    by emeraldboy


  • Jan. 9, 2008, 5:44 a.m. CST

    another creature design

    by Samplelord

    found this on the to be fan art but looks more like prduction design...check it

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:07 a.m. CST

    It aint news

    by oweny

    Thanks for telling us that you realised something isnt worth telling us. Bandwidth well spent!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:08 a.m. CST

    and yes

    by Samplelord

    The "fan" design is based on a whale...complete with parasitic like crab creatures Spiolers..?If you did not see the twist for flicks like 6th Sense,Fight Club,PLanet o Apes within the first 25min...than you were sleeping. I read all movie spoilers on every site since original films are a thing in the past...the only "surprise" I have with flicks these days is if the movie is good...which is rare

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:09 a.m. CST

    Somebody told me that LASERDISC is the way to go!

    by DerLanghaarige

    What do you think?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:26 a.m. CST

    You know what...

    by DuncanHines

    All this Cloverfield Monster hype... Just for once, let's go in without a spoiler. I want this thing to terrify me and blow my mind. Larger than life. A still, or a 4x6 video on my computer will be poop.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:52 a.m. CST

    people here

    by emeraldboy

    are so impatient. They want want want to know what the monster looks like. that is one of the downsides to the net. studios should not be fuelling the internet. anyone who is caught leaking to the studio stuff to the net should be fired. Remember lost S3 finale debacle. it was still a great ending. fantastic. I did not want to hear about it plastered all over the net. I want to enjoy this movie. I dont want this movie, cloverfield to be ruined by it being revealed all over the net.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 7:04 a.m. CST


    by Tourist

    In other countries, Downloading movies isn't the hassle it is in Australia. We are fucking worse than NZ when it comes to broadband service. I don't believe it will be long. I can't fucking buy hard media for music anymore. Its just a waste of time, money and space. I really hate that they haven't got downloaded movies yet. It would open up a HUGE library of choice, that is just clearly lacking in the retail and rental side of media. There is literally hundreds to thousands of movies I would like to watch, that are available all over the world, except at retail stores and video rental chains in Sydney. If I jump online, I can order them via mail from American sites, or even Aussie sites, but to be able to just click and receive like I do with music...Damn.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 7:28 a.m. CST

    Rob's NYC Going Away Party

    by John L Raiser

    Anyone signing up to go?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 7:38 a.m. CST

    Two and one-half words for Cloverfield

    by Abominable Snowcone

    Rambo. <p> John J.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 8:12 a.m. CST

    if that's not the cloverfield monster...


    then that creature artist really needs to branch out. everything we've seen of his is mustard yellow, scaly and has a big three clawed hand.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 8:35 a.m. CST


    by BringingSexyBack

    It's waiting for the company making his bio-pic to choose first.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 8:45 a.m. CST

    I hope that's not the monster

    by bingo the clown

    It has a disturbing lack of tentacles.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 8:57 a.m. CST

    by Evil Lincoln

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 8:58 a.m. CST

    Cheap Fucks?!

    by Evil Lincoln

    Sorry, *I* gotta eat!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 9:13 a.m. CST

    If M$ goes Blu-Ray, how about Xbox?

    by TruPhan

    Will it follow suite? I would love it if the next gen for Xboxes started including either Blu-ray or, if M$ wants to keep fighting (what appears) the impending death of HD-DVD, includes that. But I imagine it's still two years too soon to speculate on such a matter.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 9:16 a.m. CST

    Sly is coming...

    by Abominable Snowcone

    ...and now, so am I. Got kleenex?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 9:38 a.m. CST

    The monster..

    by pumaman

    If that toy IS the Monster, then so what ? I mean what the fuck are we expecting ? How cool does it really have to be to please the whining asswipes ? I want to see designs by every fucker that has been crying about the monster being crap , then we'll see how easy it is to make something appeal to the masses. Whatever it is, it'll never be good enough will it. Jeeez..

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 9:43 a.m. CST

    Paramount HD DVD

    by joe.gillis

    The FT article from yesterday clearly state Paramount is considering dropping HD and has an exculpatory clause stating that if WB's drops HD then SKG and Paramount may do so w/o penalty. This is the article

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 9:51 a.m. CST

    Try this link

    by The Central Scrutinizer

    I don't know if this is real or not...

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 10:17 a.m. CST

    I think anchorite doesnt like BSB.

    by travis-dane

    Thats not good for your health!Fear the Gun-Kata Mr.anchorite.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 10:20 a.m. CST

    HD DVD vs. Blu Ray: Requiem

    by jackalcack

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 10:47 a.m. CST

    Cthulhu vs. ManBearPig vs. Voltron:Requiem:For A Dream

    by turketron

    It would be the ultimate movie. Drugs, monsters, and giant fuck you robots.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 10:53 a.m. CST

    The thing about spoilers.....

    by Darth Macchio

    When 'Terminator 2' came out...I specifically avoided all spoilers. I don't watch a lot of "regular" (commercial) TV so I don't see many trailer/teaser commercials. Yes, my gf at the time thought I was mental in the theater with my eyes closed, hands over my ears, and making noise so I couldn't hear any of the trailer. My point is this: I was probably one of only a handful of people who had no idea whatsoever that Arnie was a good guy. I truly did not know that Robert Patrick was playing a "bad" terminator and not someone like the Reese character sent to help Conner; which apparently is a plot device in the story but given away in the first trailers making it redundant. So story-wise, John Conner, didn't know but the audience did as they saw the trailers. I, like John, also didn't know and that made it a much more enjoyable experience for me. That clinched the spoiler argument for me from that point forward. <p><p><p> this 'Del Toro expressing interest in directing the last Potter film' rumor true?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:01 a.m. CST

    HD-DVD one way or another is dead....

    by dogmanx23

    True or not Paramount and Universal will soon change they have too because people will demand it. All i know is this I want Cloverfield on Blu Ray :)

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:04 a.m. CST

    Monster = deformed guy from Basket Case

    by Baron Karza

    Eh Eh?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:06 a.m. CST

    Thanks for the spoiler in the subject, anchorite.

    by IAmJack'sUserID

    I guess that makes me like BSB by default.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:08 a.m. CST

    In 2 Days, Paramount and Universal go Blu

    by Supermans

    In 2 Days, Paramount and Universal go Blu.. Just giving all of you a heads up into some insider information...

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:21 a.m. CST

    yeah paramount is stayign with hd-dvd....

    by joevfx

    just like Warner is staying nuetral... hha gimme a beak, do you guys really not know about the corprate bull c$@%?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:22 a.m. CST

    Part of the problem

    by emeraldboy

    Is that people like dick Doyle of Irma are in complete denial and stand over the burning buildings that are music shops. they are crumbling all over the place. CDS are too expensive, so people, download music from wherever they can and for some reason IRma and others have a problem about people downloading music people dont want to pay a fortune downloading music so they do it for free. except they cant cause thats ileagle. Dick Doyle and his ilk go after to people who download music for free. and jail them. and fine them 200,000. Dick Doyle has said that people who download music are giving money to terrorists.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:32 a.m. CST

    All the Cloverfield lobster cares about is butter sauce.

    by Stuntcock Mike

    Extra garlic

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:34 a.m. CST

    Found! The real Cloverfield monster image!

    by biggles2_22


  • And anyway, even if they admitted to him that they were... would he tell us anyway? I don't think so. Not if they asked him not to. The amount of things Knowles knows but doesn't publish here is insane.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:53 a.m. CST

    JJ Abrams on Kevin and Bean radio show tomorrow!

    by Pennsy

    Just wanted to give a heads-up; it was announced about 5 minutes ago.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:54 a.m. CST

    KROQ, that is...

    by Pennsy

    And you can listen live on their website as well,

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:56 a.m. CST

    Is it true how "Blu-ray" got the name?

    by JDanielP

    Is it true that some dude named Ray in R&D was receiving oral sex...from a co-worker, while on the clock? C'mon, is it true? Is it really how Blu-ray got the name? (heh,heh)

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:59 a.m. CST

    Mr Saxon

    by ArcadianDS

    Jimmy Norton called. He wants his bit back. He also said that you were a talentless, bit-stealing hack wh-ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:10 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield monster - we know what it is already

    by finky089

    5 lions connect to form one giant fighting machine!! <p> Seriously, it's a giant ill-tempered whale

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:11 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield: Think Cthlulu meets Moby Dick

    by finky089

    Only there's no Ahab in this one.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:14 p.m. CST

    XBOX 360 plays HD-DVD, upscaled DVD, & Blu-ray!!!

    by JDanielP

    Holy crap!!!! Somebody get us a link!!!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:34 p.m. CST

    It's just a big whale-crab...

    by Rickey Henderson

    This movie had me so much more excited back when I thought it was cthulu. Now? Not so much.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:37 p.m. CST

    Sorry, but Paramount is dropping HDDVD in a few...

    by jfp2007

    I don't care what your source says, Harry. They have an escape clause and will execute it in a few short months. The combination of this and all the other firms switching to Bluray, as well as the lack of any HDDVD players being sold in electronics stores spells doom for the format by Summer.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:39 p.m. CST

    Wish it were going to be cthulu

    by finky089

    Things I'd settle for besides cthulu: <p> HArry Knowles <p> Elvis <p>Kathy Bates <p> Big, bald Britney Spears

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:42 p.m. CST

    HD-DVD dead

    by 7Cal

    Harry I like the site, but can't say you've been very good when it comes to the technical and business dealings of the format war. <p>The "here's why..." portion of your HD-DVD choice column was a joke, and everyone who knows anything about the war knows it. The FT article states that Paramount does have an 'out' in their contract to allow them to go Blu-ray if Warner's goes Blu-ray. That is now the case. That is the 'fact' part of the article. <p>The 'speculation' part suggests Paramount will be dropping HD-DVD soon to go Blu-ray. Is that really that unreasonable? Where are your sources? What official statements? I own both formats so don't care too much one way or the other, I just want one victor. But the one-sided slant you give just seems out of left field, so you'll get no benefit of the doubt from me on this one. Paramount will at least announce support for both formats by the end of the month, if not drop HD-DVD all together.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST


    by ClockWorker

    fuck cloverfield. I've never seen hype like this, its all because of that first teaser you're all such sheep that are very easily manipulated.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:46 p.m. CST

    This site spoiled Fight Club for me

    by GrandMuffTarkin

    I remember some asshole typed "Brad Pitt is Ed Norton's imagination" in the subject line. I wanted to put my fist through my monitor.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:47 p.m. CST

    there's been nothing good on here all week

    by ClockWorker

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:55 p.m. CST

    Hey, Moriarty

    by WhereNoManHasGoneBefore

    Moriarty... You said, and I quote, "It is amazing to me how much time and energy is spent by people being fucking assholes to the writers on this site". Well, I have an answer for you. Hercules called people "cheap fucks" for not buying both HD-DVD players and Blu-Ray players, then you chimed in with your potty-languague-filled post. YOU GUYS SET THE TONE ON THESE MESSAGE BOARDS. If you moderated the forms and deleted the expletive-filled messages of the average 13-year-old on this site, and if you guys held yourselves to a more respectable standard, then maybe the rest of the posters would act like adults. Hmmm???

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:56 p.m. CST


    by 5 by 5

    So this is Harry's "reliable industry source's" vs. Digital Bit's "reliable industry sources"? This contradictory information is not helpful at all. Please someone make an attempt to explain their position on this.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 12:57 p.m. CST

    There's nothing good anywhere on the internet

    by Rickey Henderson

    am I nuts, or is there just nothing interesting out there anymore? No good baseball news, no movie news, no tech news, just the same old same old.... bleh.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:01 p.m. CST


    by Fount of Useless Info

    He's what? Thanks for ruining it for me, pal.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:03 p.m. CST

    Hey, WhereNoManHasGoneBefore

    by Rickey Henderson

    Vulgarity alone doesn't make comments worth deleting. Being mean spirited, derisive, and spiteful however does.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:06 p.m. CST

    Rickey Henderson:: Fucking A'! You are right...

    by The Dum Guy

    Curse words are like extra exclamation points, if done right they enhance the prose.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:11 p.m. CST

    Hey, Hercules

    by WhereNoManHasGoneBefore

    Hercules... it seems that your answer to the format war, and all of your fans on this site, is to "Buy both, you cheap fucks!" Well, I have many reasons why I won't "buy both". And I'm NOT a "cheap fuck". (1) I don't want to reward those greedy bastards in Hollywood by putting money into the pockets of both the Blu-Ray "camp" and the HD-DVD "camp". I will NOT reward them for their greedy arrogance and unwillingness to compromise. (2) Unlike you, it seems, I don't have endless reams of cash. I'm trying to save up for my wedding in July and I recently went back to school to finish my degree. And spending $400-800 on two HD players is not something I can justify or truly afford right now. Yes, I have an HD (720p) digital projector, but it cost me nearly $1,000. I don't have money to burn on TWO HD players, at least one of which will be obsolete in a year or two at most. (3) All of you early adopters are getting to deal with the headaches of firmware updates, discs that are unplayable, etc., etc. Once the hardware manufacturers figure out what the hell they are doing, the prices on the players will be cheaper anyway. (4) So far, they haven't released anything I'm dying to buy on DVD, no "must haves" like the "Lord of the Rings" or "Star Wars" or Lawrence of Arabia". A few titles, "Blade Runner", "Planet Earth", "Heroes" & "Galactica" seasons one, have been tempting... but nothing to knock my socks off. The studios are clearly waiting for the format war to be over before bringing out the big guns. I'm not going to spend hundreds for a high def player so I can watch "National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation" and "Under Seige" in hi-def. Ughhhh.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:12 p.m. CST


    by 5 by 5

    ...still has a good point about controlling the tone here. I agree that curse words alone are not a bad thing.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:19 p.m. CST

    Indeed, respect the f-bomb

    by Rickey Henderson

    some of the funniest things I've read on AICN contain a plethora of vulgar words. You've got to balence the wit with the cursing, see? What I take issue with is people being complete schmucks to each other here for no apparent reason whatsoever. It's bad for the psyche to read such ill will and malice day in & day out, ya know?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:21 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield--through the grapevine

    by TheCornTorilla

    This creature is part whale and part others. This one creature comes to New York because of the concentration of what we call Slusho. One way the mini creatures kill people is by injecting them with something making them exploded, extreme binds. Remember the bleeding eyes and shadow in the medical tent? There is a reason why this file/event code named Cloverfield is not numbered#001.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:24 p.m. CST

    Hey, at least this isn't EbaumsWorld...

    by The Dum Guy

    There are alot of other sites that have a 'tone' (if you can call it that) that is way more juvenile and inane. At least here, most of the time it is just playfull ribbing.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:29 p.m. CST

    True, true

    by Rickey Henderson

    I like snark... I'm a big fan of the Gawker Media Family these days (Deadspin, io9, etc.) Their commenters are usually fairly witty and good natured I find. This site is more of an infamous but dark corner of the internet. The sort of place where folks can argue over whether or not the cheerleader from Heroes can regrow her own hymen. You know, intelligent discussions like that...

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:40 p.m. CST

    Yes, Thank you Harold

    by 2LeggedFreak

    So whilst telling us this isn't the monster you basically aren't telling us what is.<p> Its interesting how "establishment" you guys have become from the old bete noirs of the film industry. There are other sites out there who have posted reviews of Cloverfield but all we get here is Cum-stains upbeat review with no details - a real favour to the film makers that.<p> Oh and Moriarty you need to get your blood pressure checked and calm down a bit.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:42 p.m. CST

    The power of FUCK compels you!

    by emp

    And me.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 1:46 p.m. CST

    Oh and By the way

    by 2LeggedFreak

    If the reviews out there are to be believed then we might get to see what Cloverfield looks like, but what it is, why it is and what happens to it may not be answers that come out in this film. It feels like it could almost be an episode of Lost and I've grown to despise Lost for its lack of answers.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:02 p.m. CST

    WTF? Terminator Chronicles

    by Abominable Snowcone

    The ad (see above) for Terminator Sarah Connor chronicles appears to show an attack on John at school. But in Terminator 3 didn't we learn (from Kate) that John "just took off" after his step-parents were murdered? Meaning, after the events in T2? I want to like the TV show, but if it's not consistent with canon I'm going to give it the finger.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:20 p.m. CST

    1 more week

    by disfigurehead

    Then we will not have to put up with all of this hype and bullshit. I am not seeing it unless someone gives me free a bootleg copy.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:22 p.m. CST

    the latest update from ""

    by WhereNoManHasGoneBefore

    "Home Media has confirmed that HBO is following Warner and New Line to Blu-ray exclusivity, as we expected. Things are still moving internally at Paramount and Universal. But at least for the moment, Paramount is denying that they're giving up on HD-DVD, and of course, sites like Ain't it Cool are latching on to that. So naturally, enthusiasts all over the Net are confused today. First, you'll notice neither studio is denying that they plan to go Blu - just that they're not giving up on HD-DVD at the moment. Second, look... we love the guys at AICN, including Harry. I mean that straight up, no bullshit. He's a good guy and he does a lot for movie fans online. But with all due respect, he's been a little bit behind the curve with regard to this high-def format war all along. So we'll leave it at that. I needn't remind any of you that before the holidays, Warner was still officially claiming that they were going to continue to support both high-def formats, and we all know how that turned out now. We remain convinced that both Paramount and Universal are moving towards announcing Blu-ray Disc support soon, and we have real reason for that belief, not the least of which is that our sources in this situation are second to none - a fact which should be readily obvious by now. Announcements could happen tomorrow, they could happen next week, they could happen next month. We'd be surprised if it took longer than a month or two. We're hearing that Universal may not announce until February at the earliest, as we're given to understand that their contract period with the HD-DVD camp expires at the end of January. So everyone needs to just take a deep breath and relax. We know that's hard, given how fast things have been moving this past week. Rest assured, Paramount and Universal are going Blu, but sorting out all the legal details and organizing the logistics takes time. The Warner move was apparently well planned, but Paramount and Universal have only just started that process. They may or may not continue releasing HD-DVDs for a time - we'll have to wait and see. But retailers are now seriously pressuring the studios to go Blu, and we'd be surprised if many mainstream stores still have HD-DVD hardware and software on their shelves come next Christmas. I suspect that Paramount especially wants to be able to announce a few actual titles when they announce their Blu-ray support, and it takes time to get all that ready. Keep in mind that things have been extremely chaotic within the home video industry this week. So everyone just take a deep breath and try to calm down, while we wait for things to play out."

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:29 p.m. CST

    I gotta agree with Xiphos...

    by just pillow talk

    You take the good and the bad together when the free reign that is given in the talkback forum. Tis a good thing (even with some of the assholes like M-O-M, NoDiggity, Ringy, etc).<p>And I'm hoping for a Pack Attack myself. Nothing would be finer than Brady to lose out to his perfect season to the old man.<p>Um, yay HD! Go blu-ray! rah-rah-rah!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    totally agree xiphos

    by Rickey Henderson

    I would never want the mods here censoring anything anyone says. In the end, it's up to the individual to be respectful and ignore those that aren't. I don't want to see TBs here moderated and I was furious when I got banned a while back for those "Indiana Jones and The..." fun fests. You're right, the freedom of posting in essentially the wild west of the internet is pretty damned fun. Viva randomness and whatnot. I just wish people would grow up a bit and act like adults but hey, if they don't it becomes the responsibility of everyone else to ignore em. <br> <br> Don't be surprised if Fredo Manning gets a rematch against the New England William Defoes in a month... I'm pretty damned confident with how big blue has been playing lately.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:30 p.m. CST

    with not when

    by just pillow talk

    You also take misspellings by the fucking boatload, especially with me around. FAMMIT!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:36 p.m. CST

    Poor Harry is in denial.

    by Puñeta

    New update from digitalbits, it also mention how Harry himself is full of BS.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:40 p.m. CST

    Coming from Digitalbits,

    by jae683

    That doesn't mean a whole lot to me.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:44 p.m. CST

    agree with Xiphos..

    by otm shank

    anybody but the Cowboys! Go Niners in 2018!!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:46 p.m. CST


    by Abominable Snowcone

    I too enjoy the relatively hands-off approach that the staff takes. I've been banned only once, for reason that I guess was mildly legit. But I've had to change my moniker three or four times over the last few years because I'm dopey and misplace my passcode. I come here for geek movie news, but more so for the TB comments on the geek movie news. If it wasn't for the chuckles I get here each day, my days would be mostly, uh, without chuckles.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:48 p.m. CST

    otm shank - wow, they're on the fast track then?

    by just pillow talk

    One of the few teams that make me glad I'm a Jets fan. Naw, just kidding!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:49 p.m. CST

    By the way re: the "New England William Defoes"

    by Rickey Henderson

    That was in respect to how the old school Patriots mascot eerily resembles William Defoe. (In case ya missed it).

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 2:52 p.m. CST

    it's the same pose he had on the goblin glider

    by just pillow talk

    which is strange, since Spidey came out way after their original mascot. How did you know Sam, how did you know?

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    heh, Brady tosses a long pumpkin bomb to Moss!

    by Rickey Henderson

    we should only be so lucky...

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3 p.m. CST

    Coming from Digitalbits...

    by ZoeFan

    I believe them. I think they've been wrong about the home entertainment market and upcoming trends like 1 out of 50 times. If I'm wrong, someone correct me.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:01 p.m. CST

    a couple of things for Abom and anchorite

    by Bloo

    Abom, I'm not sure but I think the T:SCC producers are asking us to forget T3 ever even happened, but I'm not positive about that, but that's what I read here on an AICN talkback, take it for what it's worth<P>anchorite, I personally thought that the FBI agents in The Kingdom were great heros, likeable, heroic, dedicated, that's just my thoughts.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:03 p.m. CST

    hijack away xiphos!

    by Rickey Henderson

    one of the many bonuses about AICN not being moderated is that intellectual theft is completely overlooked!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:04 p.m. CST


    by otm shank

    I'm just being realistic. They will always be my team but right now....they're aaaaaaa they're not good.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:13 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield monster?

    by godhatesyou

    I have been told this is the monster. Dunno if it is or not.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:15 p.m. CST

    I know someone who saw cloverfield already and she said

    by Novaman5000

    That the monster was "amazing". She likened it to the first time you saw the creature in the film "Alien". From what I hear it's really pretty cool and original. We shall see. I'm hoping to get into a screening next week.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:17 p.m. CST

    This is a very odd TB by the way

    by Rickey Henderson

    Whose idea was it to lump a Cloverfield discussion with an HD-DVD discussion? What you end up with is random people hopping on to post fake pics of a monster (Whale-Crab!) or folks hopping on to bash whichever HD format they don't own (Blu-Ray suxorz!). And then they disappear back into the night. Odd.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:29 p.m. CST


    by otm shank

    Oh God I hope not! I'm gonna go check that out right now.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:34 p.m. CST

    adding this to a current tb...yeah, I have no life.

    by raggedrabbit,,, and of course, everyone already knows about

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:48 p.m. CST

    Harry, don't you ever learn?

    by bordello

    Give up dude. You've been wrong since day one in this HD format war. Blu-ray is the way to go. Wake up and smell the coffe Harry.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 3:54 p.m. CST

    A couple images I've seen

    by Abominable Snowcone

    depict the monster as a larger, but less-cool version of the Ymir from "20 Million Miles to Earth."

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:02 p.m. CST

    New Hulk Photo

    by Turd Furgusen

    In case no one has posted yet.<p>

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:13 p.m. CST

    Yes Xiphos they did.

    by otm shank

    SHIT! There goes the running game!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:19 p.m. CST

    Cloverfield and Harry's Reliability

    by astro1

    No offense, but it's hard to take what you say about this film as anything but Bullshit. Remember when harry had "sources" telling him the title? WRONG. It's funny though because all the marketing they've spent on this thing and people (normal everyday folks) don't even know what the fuck the movie is about, let alone that there's a monster in it. I asked a few friends if they wanted to go see it when it comes out "Cloverfield, what the fuck is that even about? World War III" So although the marketing is getting the film exposure, there's no sense of what it's about. Terrible way to position the film if you ask me.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:25 p.m. CST

    I agree with astro1

    by HExTeXly

    No one I know ("normal" people) has any clue what this movie is about. My cousin is fairly big into horror movies (meaning, he keeps his ear to the ground film wise) and he hadn't even HEARD of this film when I talked to him on X-mas. A young person, who likes movies, doesn't know about CLOVERFIED??? Sounds like trouble for JJ (and JJasarus)

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:38 p.m. CST


    by Tourist

    ...In this forum would kill it. The talk backs are the only asset this depleted site has left. If you want news, you go to up to date and reliable sources, or various niche sources. However, if you want to have nearly unfettered discourse about mainstream movie junk, there is no better site. That I know of. It is a shame that the owners of the site pay it so little attention anymore (outside of whoreing themselves and their high traffic) but at least you mostly have the freedom to comment on the situation, unlike at other media outlets.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:40 p.m. CST

    Oh, and Moriarty...

    by Tourist

    ...People might take to attacking writers less and discussing movie rumours more, if there were actual movie rumour stories going up, instead of personal shilling pieces.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:54 p.m. CST


    by IAmMrMonkey!

    I don't come here for news anymore. I come here to see what all my chums are up to. Even though none of you ever call me, I still consider you my chums. I'm nice like that.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:57 p.m. CST

    funny you mention the indiana jones titles, Rickey

    by ArcadianDS

    Anytime you post a variant on a joke 18 times in a row, and 12 of those 18 are repeats from a previous thread, then you are not funny, not witty, not entertaining, and deserve any ban you get.<p> your end of the lesson.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 4:58 p.m. CST

    If Cloverfield is all shakey cam...

    by otm shank

    I will be very unhappy.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 5:08 p.m. CST

    ArcadianDS needs his funny bone tickled

    by finky089

    lighten up, Francis. They're what still makes AICN TBs fun.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 5:12 p.m. CST

    New Line to go Blue Ray

    by skywalkerfamily

    I just read on the One that New Line is going to go Blue Ray. The LOTR EE's will probably be Blue Ray discs.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 5:17 p.m. CST

    Serpentor is the Cloverfield monster

    by finky089 least it isn't Marlon Wayans. <p> Now, that'd be scary

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 5:18 p.m. CST

    Actually A fussy Richard Simmons would be scarier

    by finky089

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST

    Good for Blu-Ray!!! yet I wonder..

    by Shagnking

    ...that part of this may have to do with the Hobbit? If Sony owns MGM (partial rights), and Warners owns New Line (partial rights), this seems like the second stage of a behind the scenes deal. I mean, a couple weeks ago it is announced that Shaye has magically had a change of heart and has agreed to bring Jackson back for the prequel (obviously Jackson got his way with the books for Fellowship). This obviously means MGM and New Line reached some sort of agreement, right? Flash forward, mere days before CES, Warners announces they are going Blu-Ray even though the two highest selling Hi-def titles on Amazon at least were in HD-DVD?. The Hobbit is a valuable enough property to have had some kind of influence in this, and I wouldn't be shocked if Sony would be picking up much of the tab for the two picture project. Regardless, Blu-Ray in my opinion is a much better investment regardless and it's potential due to PS3 involvement has yet to be fully unleashed. Tough break, HD-DVD. There's always FUBU.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 5:56 p.m. CST

    Harry's an serious idiot.

    by Frankenblogger

    He was obviously courted by the HD DVD camp, tried to pimp it off as being the better format and implied it wasn't backwards compatible. Shady and unethical for an online "journalist". <br /> <br /> Moriarty named his kid Toshiro Lucas McWeeny. And wait, Moriarty's last name is McWeeny. So we're done, right? He's doomed his own son. At least Moxie Crimefighter Gillette was born with some street cred. <br /> <br /> I'm sorry for those of you that shelled out lots of $$$ for HD DVD stuff. It stinks. I was close to getting an HD DVD player about a year ago but something made me stop and wait (and I really wanted one). Not long after is when Blu-Ray began to sell more media and still I waited. I made the decision to go Blu in November. The writing was totally on the wall at that point. <br /> <br /> Widespread digital downloads replacing physical media? Doubtful. Not for a while.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:03 p.m. CST

    methosb and others...

    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    I never said EVERYONE would be downloading HD content in two years. I said that WE would... US. I really doubt if the everyday Joe Sixpack even KNOWS there is an HD format "war" going on. In fact, Joe Sixpack doesn't even have an HD TV let alone care about HD home video. But most of us who konw/care enough about the subject to post in a talkback on a geek site do- and in two years many of us here will be on to the next thing. DVD just REALLY took hold in the last few years on the general public. Hell, Blockbuster was still carrying VHS up until, what, two, three years ago? So my point still remains- WE will look back on this in two years (okay okay... maybe three but still) and wonder what all the hubbub was about with this format war of hard copy media.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:07 p.m. CST

    Hercules is an idiot, too.

    by Frankenblogger

    Especially if he thinks you should support BOTH formats. And calling people "cheap" is rather shitty.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:09 p.m. CST

    I just remembered something REALLY FUCKING FUNNY about the forma

    by Sandinista

    does anyone remember that, about an year ago, Quint or Hercules said that the format wars would be won by HD VHS???

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:27 p.m. CST


    by Zozma per view for life, nig. And the cloverfield monster is not a whale/crab. Los siento

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:31 p.m. CST

    Finally!? Purchasing a PlayStation3 is no longer regrettable!?

    by eman_1293

    Whew, dodged THAT bullet! So long HD-DVD, we hardly knew ye...

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:45 p.m. CST

    i like hard media

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    i like having dvds in cool cases with cover art and inserts and images on the discs etc. - i like having cds with cases and stuff - although i do download a lot of music - there are some cds i still want to own professionally packaged - i just got the varase sarabande 'conan' cd - and the hammer film score collections - and the new 'blade runner' 3 disc cd collection - and the "krull' score 2 disc cd - i like hard media - i dont see it as 'clutter' - just like i dont see all of my books and comics as 'clutter' - i like owning the crap i like in a 'hard' form - am i nuts? or just old - im in my 40s - mp3s are cool - and music blogs with free music for the taking are cool - but i still like having cds - and i love having dvds - the idea of getting movies via the internet then storing them on a massive drive then burning them to disc (if even allowed) doesnt get me excited - as for the monster - i like the 'slusho' idea someone posted above - so the monster is made by us, like in 'the host' - the shaky cam idea was a good one - for 2 reasons - it makes the subject matter feel more real and it cuts down on production costs - i cant wait til 'the mountains of madness' gets made - thats one monster movie im dying to see

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:49 p.m. CST

    Why not just change it from TalkBack to BitchBack?

    by eman_1293

    It's much more suitable nowadays...<p> Hey, here's an idea: let's have both! However, due to bitchbackers' inane bitchiness, we'll expect them to flood our page; covertly using their own! Mwhahaha!

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 6:58 p.m. CST


    by eman_1293

    20th Century Fox Exec.: "C'mon guys, it's so crazy it just might WORK!"

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 7:07 p.m. CST

    OK, The LA Times now says you're wrong Harry.

    by polyh3dron <p> <p> "Warner Bros.' decision last week to start making movies exclusively for Blu-ray players, rather than HD DVD, triggered an "out" clause in Paramount Pictures' contract with the HD DVD camp. An industry source said there was a significant possibility that Paramount would exercise that clause. It plans to decide within a month. Paramount officials said they would continue to support HD DVD, a format for displaying videos in higher quality whose backers include Toshiba Corp. and Microsoft Corp. Universal Pictures, which has been a strong supporter from the beginning, issued no public statement on the matter here."

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 7:35 p.m. CST

    I still buy CDs

    by skywalkerfamily

    I like knowing that in case my shitty computer crashes at least I still have my music.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 7:51 p.m. CST

    Rumour from Vegas - could be crap, but it kinda makes sense

    by Mickey The Idiot

    OK. This really is rumor, but hey what's a talkback for. Anyway a decent contact of mine in the retailing business at CES says Tosh is indeed thinking of going the HD DVD-R route if the remaining studios jump ship. Now children, this could be only a straw man they are circulating - for fairly obvious reasons to keep the remaining studios from jumping - and they may just give up on the whole thing. However, the claim is that the studio deals for Blu-ray do prevent it launching recorders outside Japan, so a studio-free Tosh would effectively have that end of the market to itself (notwithstanding that even I don't see how BD equipped laptops fit into that model, but I'm just relaying shit on). The other bit in there is that there would be a trade-in discount for existing HD DVD player owners on the recorder to reward their faith in the format. If you give this any credence at all, it has to lie in the fact that the recorder really is now Tosh's only hope of keeping its disc format alive (the retailers also now would only be interested in a high def recorder, and shelf space is the most precious commodity in the world). Meanwhile, the one thing dig bits apparently has spot on is that this should all be resolved in a month - all involved are apparently privately saying as much.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 8:39 p.m. CST


    by Emperor_was_a_jerk

    What if your CDs crack, scratch, get stolen...? Its allllll about backup. It is fairly simple and almost free. I told customers that for years in my former line of work. BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP. If I could backup everything I own- my camera, my phone, my car, my clothes- in case it "went away" , I would.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 8:49 p.m. CST

    I back up in bulk

    by Tourist

    Burn a few albums to a DVD. Only the ones I really, really, really want. Keep em in a CD folder thing. If I owned a mansion, I might consider holding hard copies, but its just a nuisance.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 9 p.m. CST

    Physical media

    by movieman742

    I like having the dvd and cd case, plus i dont like the chances of my computer crashing and loosing all my music.

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 10:43 p.m. CST

    my cds wont crack scratch or get stolen

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    because i take good care of them and dont lend them out - ill copy them for someone before lending them - same applies to my dvds - and i can copy those too - software is amazing these days - (for family not for profit) - i guess its illegal - but technically, so was my taping songs off the radio with my cassette deck/radio in the 1970s - i back up all my downloaded music on - itunes could broaden their appeal if they werent so stingy - i was surprised to find out how "protected" their mp3s are - for example, you cant import them from itunes into imovie (video editing for morons) - funny in that they both bear the "i" prefix - all "i"crap should be compatible with each other

  • Jan. 9, 2008, 11:57 p.m. CST

    Uh, what if your ipod is stolen?

    by skywalkerfamily

    Then your music and your connection to the net is gone. All you have is the music stored on your itunes and your CD's.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 12:04 a.m. CST

    Uh, My ipod got broke...

    by Tourist

    ...So I plugged my new one into my computer and re-synched it. Was alot quicker than going to an insurance company and re-ordering, searching for or borrowing all my CD's would have been, had they been stolen. You can also just download the fuckers again. Its not rocket science.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 12:51 a.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky - FYI

    by systemsbroom

    recording from radio (or tv) is fair use. As is sharing copies with families and close friends>

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 1:02 a.m. CST


    by That 70s Venom

    I just saw a Cloverfield TV Spot, which I think is Cloverfield commercial #14 so far. It came on like right after Conan O Brien and at the very end of the trailer it showed a bluish/blackish/greyish silhouette of something that looked like a head running into a building with huge tentacles dangling from it. I don't think they have this up on youtube yet because I just checked it. And I haven't seen it on any spoiler sites or anything yet. I hope you guys see it soon! It will probably be on a lot tomorrow!

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 1:36 a.m. CST


    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    really? - i was told different - one less thing to worry about - so every time i - er, someone - copies a cd or dvd theyre not breaking the law as long as they make no profit from the copies? - why all the unauthorized copy warnings then - - i should probably shut up now

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 3:23 a.m. CST

    I accidentally deleated my itunes

    by skywalkerfamily

    but all I had to do get itunes back, upgrade it, authorize my computer and resync all my stuff again. It only transferred the purchased stuff I had back over and I had to upload all my CD's again.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 3:43 a.m. CST

    Gojira will always be the King

    by Seth Gecko

    That's Godzilla to the imbeciles. The 1998 abortion that Roland Emmerich gave us was the wrost film ever made. He destroyed the Godzilla mythos (No Mothra or King Gidorah!!!) completely and ripped off Jurassic Park to the nth degree. Who gives this man a director's hat? I love Godzilla and I hope no hollywood hack ever tries to rebirth him as a pissweak deformed lizard again.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 4:39 a.m. CST


    by trek

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 5:53 a.m. CST

    How is this crap going to be any different then GODZILLA?

    by EvilDoeR

    I mean looks like the same basic concept if you ask me. Should have just called it "Godzilla Returns."

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 6:36 a.m. CST

    It's called Cloverfield and it doesn't take place in Japan

    by just pillow talk

    See? Completely different.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 6:51 a.m. CST

    Gojira can blow me

    by m_prevette

    What's funny is how people think those Toho Godzilla movies are good to begin with...I mean..little baby Godzilla playing jump rope with daddy's tail...the Smog Monster...gimme a fuckin break. People watch that shit then complain about the Emmerich Godzilla?

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 9:25 a.m. CST

    Is this the monster?

    by godhatesyou Could be.....

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 10:08 a.m. CST

    what about this cloverfield monster from months ago?

    by nippleslipz

    what was the story behind this design?

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 12:51 p.m. CST

    The movie is not out yet but

    by emeraldboy

    this is a big but if this movie makes serious moola, cloverfield two will be in offing. I normally dont post in this way but judging by one of the photos, it looks like beth could be a carrier for an alien. In the sequel if there is to be one and i am not sure if there will be. New york has been rebuilt by a wealthy mysterious benefactor(targuato?) and everything seems ok. Preganancy rate is soaring. but rather than give birth to normal children. the monsters third wave of terror begins, mini versions of the monster appear in NYC and cause havoc. they are all destroyed except one and that leads to the third movie. in that one they defeat the monster in the end. But knowing JJ there is a twist of somekind.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 1:02 p.m. CST

    President Baltar

    by emeraldboy

    You havent said if the movie is worh the time or not but havent said that the monster sounds badass. you obviously worked on the movie, so it sounds like you know about it. Did you have to sign some anti blab contract before you saw it or when you worked on the movie? I am just wondering because the last person who wrote a lengthy piece about a movie here was the poor bloke biled all over Die hard 4 and was sacked. for breach ov contract.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 2:16 p.m. CST

    nevahagin you are kidding right? and if not

    by slappy jones

    you really need to lighten up and go and get laid.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 2:19 p.m. CST

    I have no idea how to visualize it from that description

    by Rickey Henderson

    Would you say it's a WHALE-CRAB or more of a FROG-CRAB?

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 2:31 p.m. CST

    Its seems like

    by emeraldboy

    a whale/crab/frog/human/dog fusion expieriment gone wrong.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 3:57 p.m. CST

    Definitely looking forward to this...

    by Darth Macchio mentioned in another post on Cloverfield, I once had a dream (I was 12 or 13 maybe) where the area I lived (outside of Miami) was being attacked by Godzilla or a similar giant 'monster'. I've always had a soft spot for Toho and the Godzilla films, cheesy man-in-suit or not but I gotta say...I was god damn terrified in the dream. First there's this geek-flip-out thing where you're brain tries to wrap itself around the notion of a giant animal wreaking havoc ("Holy shit! It's fucking Godzilla!!!")...and not just a 20 or 30 foot measly 'giant' but something *huge*, massive, hundreds of feet in height (figure approx 10 feet per story so a '30-40' story high beastie would be roughly 300-400 feet tall!). In my dream, the monster was maybe 5 or 10 miles away and surrounded by the military and a harsh firefight (at least that what it seemed like in the dream); but he towered over all and was easily seen. I remember feeling relieved in that selfish self-preservation way that he was so far away but I could plainly see him destroying everything. Feeling the ground shudder and hearing a deep rumbling from every direction. The write-ups Baltar did takes me back to that weird crazy-nightmare dream...that first person perspective of something so insane and improbable that you simultaneously are excited and terrified at the same time. A truly weird and vertigo-like paradoxic sensation. Also, I like the idea better about it not having the head of a whale (according to Baltar); a whale mutation doesn't really work for me as whales breath air (need to surface and thus be seen at some point) and are generally gentle creatures...even a mutated whale sounds like something to pity and care for...not fear.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 4:05 p.m. CST

    But what do HARRY'S sources say...

    by Mindworm22


  • Jan. 10, 2008, 4:10 p.m. CST

    JimmyJoe RedSky and fair use

    by systemsbroom

    No, you can't just copy cds and dvds and be ok if you don't sell them. One thing about copying stored media is that it typically has Digital Rights Management ("DRM") protection. It's a crime to break DRM, as per the Digital Millenium Copyright Act. <P> Also, fair use defenses to copyright violation are a pretty subset of overall uses of copyrighted material, and their contours are pretty complex. The distinction doesn't have to do with whether or not you make money off the copying.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 4:37 p.m. CST

    Daily Variety is also confirming the FT story

    by ckane123

    Harry, this HD-DVD post was really misguided. Just cause you wish something to be true doesn't make it so. I suggest a mea culpa, else more credibility be lost by you and your site.

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 4:45 p.m. CST

    so if i buy a cassette tape and copy it for backup...

    by JimmyJoe RedSky

    like i did many years ago, im breaking the law? - its interesting to me that all these laws are in place and yet its made so easy to break them - what with software the right operating system and a fast optical drive - the average shmuck is left holding the bag - yet you still see a steady stream of mexican and chinese peddlers (im not xenophobic, just being honest) in the 42 st station selling bootlegs of current movies on any given day - ive even seen them walk into places (mcdonalds/pizza joints) selling their bootlegs - they never look too worried abiut getting slapped with fines

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 5:37 p.m. CST


    by travis-dane

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 6:30 p.m. CST

    You Can See The Monster's Foot/Tentacles In THIS TV commercial

    by That 70s Venom

    In the latest TV spot for Cloverfield at the end of the trailer you can see the monster and his foot/hand/tentacles. Go here to see it:

  • Jan. 10, 2008, 11:27 p.m. CST


    by darth_ghidorah85

    have you not seen the original unaltered gojira? or how about mothra vs godzilla (considered the best godzilla sequel by the by). check those out. there are plenty of godzilla movies around that are 100 times better than 90% of the crap that comes out in america today. back in the day, godzilla movies where made with heart and respect. emmerich had no respect for the character or the concept to begin with. fucking hack i say. i admit, there is a lot of cheese in the toho godzilla movies, but there is also a lot of good that goes unnoticed by 95% of american movie goers. just so ya know

  • Jan. 11, 2008, 7:06 p.m. CST

    Harrry -vs- the NY Times

    by Mindworm22 ....and I think Harry loses in a landslide. Again. What has it been? Like, about 3 days since his "declaration" that Paramount and Universal weren't leaving HD-DVD?

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